#cases-psu-and-cooling
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whats a good case for unde r$50
Focus G is good
is there a small case (itx) that support atx psu? i dont wannt buy a new one becuase of 3080 ๐ฆ
there are a few that do @ocean bridge
but the go to ITX with atx psu support is limited to 2slot wide gpu's
(fractal design node 304)
I found the worst thing in my life to work on tried to take motherboard out to put it in a different case but I got really upset and put it back together
Is NZXT C850 a good enough PSU for a 5900x and rtx3080 build?
nzxt makes psu's? huh
Erm yah
I like how some guy thinks his 650w psu is overkill when im here with my 2060 super and 2700x
And a 750w gold rated psu
Corsair RMx go brrr
Thoughts on NZXT C Series?
Reall quick dose every ps come with all the cables you need???
in most cases yes
it is not always true
like if you were getting a 3090 rog strx (whichever one needs 3 8 pins) with a really expensive motherboard and need 5 8 pins you could be short on most PSUs
This may not be the right place for this but.... My pc is randomly rebooting, no warning, just a reboot. Could this be a symptom of a failing PSU?
So I'm looking for a case with at least 3 pci expansion slots in a mini itx form factor with a decent side window. Preferably tempered glass.
@tender root thank you for the reply, sadly i need 3 slot cuz im going to get the 3080 tuf, is there a a small mid tower in your mind ?
@vivid cobalt you have the nr200p
Thanks @ocean bridge Been up all night just going through several revisions. Came to the conclusion that the TU150 probably wouldn't have quite enough airflow for the hardware I'm putting in. This looks like a great option so far.
@vivid cobalt the nr200p is amazing air flow so its a good choice only down fall for me is the water cool can be only mounted on the bottom, and as seen in gamers nexus video its not recommended at all , but you air cool it at ease , or ditch the tempered galss and mount it on the side
Yeah I'm trying to fit as much punch in the smallest form factor while trying to meet my aesthetics needs. Planning on a 5800X CPU and RTX 3090 GPU.
your main limit for the ITX builds with 3slot wide pci-e is the atx psu
plenty of itx cases that can handle that with SFX psu
@ocean bridge see above
@tender root problem a 750W psu in my countey is around 350$
hmm
@ocean bridge aye, there are not any that i am aware of that are ITX with ATX psu support, that ALSO have 3 slot wide gpu support
i have just checked all that the repositories that i know of
IF you are willing to go with mATX for the mainboard
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that is an option
its not pretty (imo) but it is an option
@tender root its ugly ๐ i guess ill just settle for a mid tower then. ty for helping ๐
if mid tower is a option, you have stuff like the Define C Mini
which is a absolutely love case to build in
looks good . also nice watercooling options
there are versions with a window ofc
and price should also be reasonable
if you want something a bit more lively
that is an option
also lovely to work in
but its hit or miss with the front design for people
if you want actual colour on your cases
that
or this one
example of the first
the Meshify C Mini looks very good
example of the second
i can vouch for all of them being nice enough to build in
but the fractal design cases "feel" like they are better built
if that makes sense
i feel you
think imma go with the Meshify C Mini, just checking if it fits all my desires ๐
aye aye
thnak you so much !
I am considering doing a full custom loop ina corsair 280x (build is just in the conceptual stages rn because i don't have money for it atm) I want to know if I can possibly put a 6900xt plus some Nvidia datamining card (I need the CUDA cores for Davinchi resolve) in the build
Mobo I'm gonna use is the ASUS TUF gaming b550 plus wifi mATX motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m3dFf7/ i have fallen in love with this case and i was wondering what the experience to use the case is like
https://www.newegg.com/gunmetal-gray-fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352075
Is this a good case? Also what makes a good case lol
@teal creek Focus G is a nice cheapo case
it's a metal box with 2 fans, it's what you pay for.
I have a couple questions.
- Is there much risk to buying a case before you have all the parts for a build if you can't hook up a test build? Basically is there much of a chance a case could be DOA in a way that isn't obvious without building in it.
- Any recommendations for black cases with good airflow and a relatively low-key appearance at or under $100? I'm on board with the appearance of the meshify c, p400a and lian li 2 mesh if that helps. I don't care for rgb and would prefer not to have a glass side panel if that's an option, but I'm open to having both
- It's hard for a case to be DOA unless it was damaged in shipping. Maybe some included fans won't work
@zinc flume Buying a case early could be iffy if like a fan is dead on arrival, or you're missing a bag of screws. I suggest you try a TD500 mesh.
How likely is the front I/O to show up DOA? I figure this is a low risk, but I just wanted to check. Saw the meshify c on newegg for like $60 right now, I think some other offer better airflow now unless I'm mistaken. I'll check out the TD500 as well
Thanks for the input!
Well, it's all 'low' risk, it's just nice to make sure it's still within the return period when you build.
we recommend that you buy it all together exactly for the reason IF you luck out on the statistics
Something like a 98% chance it works still means 2% chance still exists where it's dead.
Best to avoid trying luck, and plan it out.
Yeah, having something show up dead would suck. I just love a good deal as well. I'm sure there will be other deals ๐
I do really wish more of these cases would have a non-tempered glass panel option. I don't love the idea of that breaking considering how much I've had to move around
Heh, @zinc flume if you just want a cheapo metal case that's just metal with acrylic, Focus G, it's not a good case by any means, but it works.
Hah, no I want a good case but favor practicality over aesthetics like rgb and a glass panel. TD500 looks good as well so I'm sure I'll just go with something with TG
@zinc flume the Define series are built like tanks
and there are models without windows
Yโall got any good atc case recommendations that come with fans and is 70 or below?
is there a smaller version of the case because i lover it but i dont have a full atx system
Fractal dedogn meshify c mid tower
*design
Or lian li lancool 205
I like the fractal better tho
i think that there's a mini version of the meshify c
oh there is
it looks nice but jus as yammy said, bad airflow and expensive
e,aqd
i agree
Hey, I broke my case and was thinking if this one would be a good replacement for my cheapomode one
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hwkj4D/lian-li-pc-o11dx-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11dx
any cases that look nice with good airflow?
lemme check regional pricing
TD500 mesh white for 124 euros, higher price than I'd like, but it's an option
would look for it more ~100 euros
Phanteks P400a for 100 euros, it's good.
4000d airflow white pricing looks good.
Black one is just out of stock
@strong ermine no idea why, but all the good black cases are out of stock in the belgian market lel
Welp. apparently the kekw emote isn't allowed
Anyhow, currently have the deepcool Mattrexx 50

but I bent the back panel by accidentally kicking it
@strong ermine I've been told amazon.de ships to most european countries, see if it ships to belgium.
https://www.amazon.de/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-TD500-ARGB/dp/B0839Y7933/
and now I need to pull it off or my HDD cable won't work
hmmm
Now I'm not sure between the CM or Phant
And the td500 mesh actually goes in stock :P
Oh wait a second,
You got techie!?! Lesgoo!@elfin trout
yas >:D
yay
Yay
Define 7 compact needs to go on sale
Need to get rid of my cable management and airflow nightmare that is inwin
@pliant charm yes
Does anyone own a Corsair hx1200w platinum? If so, is it good/quiet? Would you recommend it for a RTX 3080 & Ryzen 5950X? Would it fit the lian li pc o11 dynamic case? Sorry too many questions
Cooler master v850 PSU good enough for 5900x and 3080 build?
@ebon osprey yea should be good
@dusk axle I have an HX1000 Plat, but haven't built yet but 1200w should be plenty for that setup and yes it should fit, I have a O11 Dynamic and the 1000w fits
@dusk axle I havenโt used that model but my rm850x is incredibly quiet
1200w is probably overkill. Up to you
@pliant charm model over brand
Seasonic S12iii is trash
Seasonic focus plus px is great

is evga supernova 1000 G+ 80 plus gold a good psu? I read that many people are not happy with it
new fractal case released today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTW2KHGzbM0
Fractal Design's brand new Meshify 2 case is not the same as the S2 Meshify! This $140-ish airflow-oriented Meshify 2 is in for review, thermals, acoustics, and more.
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Article will publish ...
i hate how the front covers part of the fans
especially for halo-style rgb fans
which are the ones i have ;-;
td500?
yes
any good psu for 750 watts that are trustworthy?
Phanteks Amp 750w @unique patrol
just anything 80+ bronze and above
power efficiency does not determine quality
but its still safe to go with 80+ bronze and above
rather than no rating
@unique patrol yep thats a good psu
fully modular
ok thanks
yep
any of these r fine
cheap psu for 3400g with a b450, dont want non modular
neoEco gold zen 700w is 89.99
lepton 700w is 104.99
Focus Gm750 is 102.99
toughpower gf1 720 is 109.99
cheap psu for 3400g with a b450, dont want non modular
@uncut stump probably the CORSAIR CX-M Series CX450M
are they modular?
its semi-modular iirc
nice I'll check it out
@faint pilot no not CXm
should i be worried about my psu frying my system
The amp 750 was out til december so i picked up the rm850x
still a better PSU for cheaper
What is a good 850 watt unit? 100-150 dollar budget.
It tells me i cant get that psu until like december 14th
What is a good 850 watt unit? 100-150 dollar budget.
@steady walrus enermax df 850
@steady walrus Revolution D.F. 850w
ill probably just go to best buy and just get a corsair 750 watt
make sure its a good corsair 750w
corsair makes some good some bad models
corsair VS series = bad
Corsair RM series = good
this is the one
ye thats good
any suggestions for a 600-650w psu? semi-modular or modular preferred. trying not to spend more than $100 (give or take a few dollars ofc).
@regal slate whats your cpu + gpu
r5 3600, gtx 1660 (maybe super)
that can run off a 450w if you want it to lol
yeah ik, but i want it to last
mmk
@regal slate you can also try EVGA B-stock
@regal slate $75 for a really nice looking a decent unit: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx650f-rgb-cp-9020217-na-650w/p/N82E16817139263
(with $20 mail in rebate)
b stock only has 1yr warranty though
thats true
cx-f is nice IF PRICE DROPS FURTHER >:P
i have a B-stock 650 G5 and it has been great
er $5 more
bruh
then theres also the normal CX @regal slate https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FdRFf7/corsair-cx-2017-550w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020121-na
wait that s550w
hol up
heres the 650w
oh cool, ty!
np
its non modular though, but would it really be worth spending $20-ish more for semi or full?
going with the phanteks p300a mesh
the shroud can cover the cables, no need for modular
alright cool, tysm for the help
Made this video to convince a friend that he doesnโt need to spend extra on a modular power supply when you have a psu shroud.
np
bruh but if you don't have a shroud, jus stuff the cables in the back and collect them using zip ties or velcro straps
yams lag spike
yams be talking fax tho
oh yea, i literally didnt just watch an awesome minecraft bedwars gameplay
the most recent one?
same lmao
i sound so mentally deranged
im talking like i have severe depression lol
and i cant commentate for the life of me
lets go
if u ever have like stories to tell, u can do that
yeah
like commentary with gameplay
like commentary on things while gaming
politics too
nah
thats a cooler version of boring
no politics
no politics
none
thats kind of like what technoblade did in his early days
lol i'd love to talk politics cause i have some strong opinions on stuff but lots of people would get mad or something idk
ikr
yea
i need to make another video
bruh you dont explode pumpkins for your viewers smh
anyone have a fractal focus g case? for the life of me i can't figure out how to remove the dust filter
yeah
from the front?
@chrome iris 100 subs ๐
i may have or may not have subbed from 2 different accounts
but
100 SUBS 
whatever these are called, just start pulling from that handle thing on the bottom @subtle rain
:)
how is it attached? in the front
you can just pull it off from the bottom
you see those pin thingies
zoom and enhance:
im getting a pure base 500 dx
Fans on glass?
sorry tighten the screws
td500 mesh or purebase 500 dx
td500 mesh
What are the advantages the dt500 mesh over the 500dx
Better airflow
liancool ii mesh has way better airflow but i like the asthetics of the pure base 500dx which still gets good air flow
i'd like a second opinion on my psu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2WWQ68
yeah it's a decent psu
cool thx
you can get better for the price though
i was gonna get the meshify c, but now theres the 2...
anyone know when the meshify 2 releases tho?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q6KrDc switched it rq
usd prolly, right?
ouff, thats pretty expensive ngl
wish they made a c sized one
or at least one thats more compact
thanks @chrome iris & @vocal tartan
is this case good for 70 usd
Does it come with the fans?
it comes with 3
huh
I'd watch reviews on airflow and material quality if you really want to be sure
looks nice though
looks very nice
i think ill go with this one, its on sale and i dont think ill be paying 100 usd for a p360a
the snap pcie covers are kind of a bummer but its managable
Does anyone have this case? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147274
I can't seem to get the HDD tray to fit my HDDs and wanted to see how others did it. I'm pretty sure my issue is user error.
Whats a good case for under $100
@spare mist
Yup... Screw holes don't match up to the HDD.
waaaaaaaaaaaat
@spare mist notice that the connectors on the drive point towards the grill on the case to the right (in the picture
also make sure you're using the right tray for your hdd/ssd
Yup, I did notice.
Hand made sleeved cables?
need concrete power testing on the 6800, should be fine
unless AMD pulls a quick one on us
it can only go "so" high @elfin trout
@tender root who knows
10900k 2.0
"ah yes meets tdp yes yes, give up the boost speeds tho, run at 1/2 of the speeds we advertised"
would be very unlikely
but ya never know :D
remember, we have psu recommendation for them
which are the exact same as for the nvidia side of things
H500 yes
@scenic lance should prob get a nh-u12a tho
nicer compatibility with everything
u12a black coming q1 next year iirc
dunno
get u12a
Anyone here have a lian li o11 dxl with a vert gpu mount? Trying to figure out if you can get a second riser in there
@tender root @elfin trout thing with AMD GPUs, they are completely unlocked. Dont need XOC vBIOS or anything like with Nvidia. If cooler is good enough, might get some rather godly OC perf. 3090 Strix can do 450w on air decently well, so we know that at least some GPU air coolers can deal with a fair bit of wattage. Question becomes stock 6800 wattage/perf and how far can the coolers that're on the decently price models can go cooling wise if OCing.
who knows
RDNA1 gpus behave like that
Anyone know of a case attachment that will hold <=3.5" drives under my Fractal Focus G's 5.25" bays? I cant post a pic here to show the bays.
Similar, but needs different places to put screws
@snow spoke If you look at the second to last pic of the case, look at the bottom of and to the left of the 5.25 bays, and you'll see screw holes I'd like to use: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071SHFRTP/
Fractal doesnt seem to sell any accessories that fit there
@edgy plinth those 4 holes are for a 2.5inch ssd mount on the back of that metal sheet
because its those you mean right?
i think he meant the holes on the side of the 5.25 bay
@tender root No, I'm aware of those. I'm talking about the opposite end of the case where joesr said.
I dont have Discord level to post pics or links, which makes this tougher to explain
@tender root if I had to guess, they want 5.25in to 3.5 converters to make the top 5.25in bays usable.
ohhh
ah, you are trying to "hang" off the 2.5 screw holes
interesting
you wont find anything that does that @edgy plinth
I figured those were outdented for a reason
or rather, you should not find any
you'd have to mod something yourself to do that I'd assume.
Like you could slot a bracket in from the bottom.
the reason they are like that, is most likely because they had tooling that makes it like that
Or on the left side of that same frame, there's 2 more screw holes
because this is the system they used to use for expansion
thats in the Define XL R2 (which is fairly old by now)
yo
does anyone w/ the lian li pc o11-dynamic xl know if the cablemod veritcal pcie mount works w/ it
Are there any recommendations for a good case that looks nice aswell, I like the look of NZXT cases, but ive heard they have bad airflow
CM TD500 mesh
Lian li lancool ii mesh
Corsair 4000d airflow
Corsair 275r airflow
ok thanks!
Meshify c too
micro center is selling a i9 9900k for $299 rn
bad deal lol
idk why youre in cases and psus but ok
Reason: Bad word usage

oh i read the name wrong lmao
What is a decent mid tower tax case that has good airflow and no glass side?
Neat case. Haven't seen that one before.
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i wish i'd done more reasearch into my case when i builtmy first pc
ended up getting this garbo boi
this was like, 3.5 years ago tho
so
Does anyone know the process of getting your products approved to be sold on NewEgg? I'm working on a line of cases rn and I'm trying to figure out how to get them into existing online PC component stores.
I'm guessing you'll want to look here @scenic lance
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/
is this a good psu?
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Power-Supply-100-Ba-0600-K1/dp/B08BNRGWXZ
@stone trail Yea, EVGA BA is quite a nice budget PSU.
mhm
i have a lian li lancool ii cus its sexy
why do people hate the lian li lancool ii
its expensive
its only like 85 bux
anybody know of portable cases
im planning to get a lianli tu150
any better alternatives
dont that one have a handle
Anyone know some small ATX cases
@severe plover I mean, if you want a full atx case that's somewhat portable, Coolermaster H500 no suffix
Nice case with a handle
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A650GF any thoughts?
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Looks pretty good to me but just wondering what others think
I think it's pretty new
100 times better performance
Fractal Design Meshify C and Phanteks P400A (non-RGB) are at the same price right now ($70). Which one is nicer quality/provides better airflow? Either way I'll be adding another fan (or two).
i mean, i prefer the meshify c over the p400, but thats kinda just personal preference
yeah i've been leaning towards the meshify cause of the design/color, i just wanted to know if there were any key thermal/air flow differences between them
Hi, someone knows the brand XPG and how good is it?
How can you tell if a PSU will be compatible with your motherboard
above is answered in #building-and-recc-chat, because the user also asked there
@elfin trout I know model is more important than brand but on PSU is scary choosing things of brands little known
example: enermax
most people havent ever heard of enermax
but they make the Revolution D. F. PSU, which is a really good model
so it doesnt depend on brand at all mostly, all on the model
@potent hornet
@chrome iris and age of the user.
sure...?
as in, enermax was bigger years ago
the different companies (of the smaller ones) push their marketing in cycles
like motorola
was super big in phones
then smartphones happened
all but died out in the US @tender root @chrome iris
aye @novel flax
@chrome iris Yeah i understand that, but in that case i find more reviews a comments on forums about corsair PSU than XPG PSU
It isn't only the brand what i search there is a lot of things and unfortunately the good things about brands little known are a lot more harder to find, on my case
@rigid harbor dm me real quick
So I've found conflicting information (aka i only checked google images), do PSUs always intake via the bottom? (thank you)
well in most normal cases, yk, a mid-tower atx case, the fan in the psu is placed in the bottom facing the bottom
taking in air
Right, so just to make sure I'm understanding, the passive outtake would be on the smaller side/face with the port and on/off switch?
also while im here, is it always passive outtake or just normally?
wdym
Like is there a fan on the outtake or does it just move out because of the intake fan, im pretty sure theres only one intake fan and no outtake in a psu but im not 100%
Yea the first ones on google images where a little conflicting, but i wasnt even looking to see if it was a proper standard (whateverthey'recalled) atx? psu
so yes the cool air comes in through the bottom and it comes out of the vents assuming you're using a standard mid-tower case
Yea alright, that's what I assumed i just wanted to make sure i didnt have it wrong, sweet. I hope they make fanless PSUs more affordable soon
Thank you for your help
my pleasure
Gigabyte GP-P750GM (80 Plus Gold 750W, Modular, Smart Fan, Smart Power Protection, Power Supply) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DKJJFW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabt1_AFZRFbF4JQ8FA
Good psu or no?
Disregard price since I got it with a bundle, should I trade/sell for something else?
Looks great, good reviews, gold 80+, id say keep it unless you want to make $50 and get something cheaper thatll probably work nearly as good. Im pretty sure the larger, better PSU will run cooler and quieter than a barley enough bronze PSU, but like how noticably? probably not much. Id still keep it if i where u unless u need the money
Itโs new so thereโs not too much that people actually know about it. If you filter the Amazon reviews for the specific model there are only 4 and 3 of them are people saying it broke down or was DOA
today has been i guess, PSU awareness day for me so i just wanna make sure that this would be up to par for a 3070/3600 build
is 500w ok for a 5600xt and a 2600? or should i get a 550w
@prisma socket 500w is fine
ok
Hello, anyone around? My power supply blew popped and computer will not turn on.
The power supply was a thermaltake 850 tr2 platinum. I am looking for similar but updated/current power supply to purchase
Enermax Revolution D.F. 850w is my go to without breaking the bank @agile rapids
(130usd)
Nah, you were right. I put my question in the wrong channel. My bad. Thanks!
@elfin trout would this be good for my build Check this out on @Newegg: EVGA 550 B5, 80 Plus BRONZE 550W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 5 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply - 220-B5-0550-V1 https://www.newegg.ca/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167?Item=N82E16817438167&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-17-438-167-_-11142020
I know
But this one is fully modular
@elfin trout is it enough wattage for my build
... what is that ssd and ram choice
Can you just answer my question
As long as it's not Vengeance rgb
Sn550 is dramless and doesn't have hmb
Yes
It'll work
ADATA swordfish has HMB for 5cad more, I'd get a P1 at 10cad more if possible for dram
@elfin trout which one has fastest download speed
K
P1
is there any difference between the p1 and p2? they're the same price rn
does hmb degrade slower than dram? because i dont see why it would be the same price for slower speeds and no onboard dram
or some other advantage it has over dram
so no advantage to the p2 vs p1?
I'd say P1 over P2 for the dram, p1 uses QLC while p2 uses tlc
any good mini itx cases?
dont want something like crazy small but something around the size of nzxt h210 would be nice
@stoic shuttle Take a look at NR200p
@elfin trout Why dont u like vengeance rgb lol
Definition: A die, in the context of integrated circuits, is a small block of semiconducting material on which a given functional circuit is fabricated. Typically, integrated circuits are produced in large batches on a single wafer of electronic-grade silicon (EGS) or other semiconductor (such as GaAs) through processes such as photolithography. The wafer is cut (diced) into many pieces, each containing one copy of the circuit. Each of these pieces is called a die.
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why not just get RGB fans? So, so, so, much cheaper then getting RGB components.
freq and timings wise, this is the best one given the price
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b
if you really want RGB, then here
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl
yes, very good given the price
@lofty pewter I also hate it for the size, Vengeance rgb is too wide, and can block the radiator in some cases
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm550x-cp-9020177-na-550w/p/N82E16817139231
It says that it comes with 2 pci-e 8x cables but i only see one output. Does the cable split into 2?
Anybody know of a budget power supply for like around 50$
@gloomy niche EVGA BA 500w
Creating a new PC build, can I use my old power source? It is like 8 yrs old.
@cloud birch if possible, new PSU would be nice.
I would recommend a new PSU
What's best rating for PSU? Gold?
And what's the differences between like bronze or gold for example
the best rating is titanium i think
and the difference is that it's a rating based on efficiency
Ah cool thanks
What is the best cooling case for $150 Cad
anyones thoughts on the nzxt h510 non-elite and elite? was planning to get one for a build
@oak nimbus donโt get, Bad airflow
What is the best cooling case for $150 Cad
@small charm ehhh coolermaster td500 mesh
the airflow 4000d is pretty sick
The phanteks p500a is a good case with good airflow
any good compact matx cases?
@sleek wharf it goes White > Bronze > Silver > Gold > Platinum > Titanium
Please please donโt base your power supply choice on its rating. This only means efficiency, not quality
@static quest whatโs your CPU + GPU. do you really need 600w?
there are tons of psus on sale on evga bstock atm
Whats the difference between evga's g1+, g2, g3, and so on? (psu)
Completely different platforms
which one is the best?
whats ocp
oh okay
and either OTP or OPP is set too high too
would i be fine using a g3?
I mean
i found a cheap one on ebay
open box
(Mainly because you don't know if they lost a cable somewhere)
It's your luck and your money to be tried
Rely on your own judgement for non-new stuff
okay thanks
its good
K thx
is gud
im using it my $2000 CAD build, so it fekin better be good
lel
people who say corsair has bad psu are non smart, has one ever blown up on you
I've only owned 2 power supplies, A Rosewill and a Bitfenix. Neither have blown up, but I did replace the Rosewill one for fear of it blowing up 
I have a lian li lancool 2 mesh rgb, I have it wired up and the case fan rgb turns on while off and turns off while on
How do I fix this?
I have a lian li lancool 2 mesh rgb, I have it wired up and the case fan rgb turns on while off and turns off while on
@nova verge haha, you have the mesh
i have the normal one
@frank pine whats wrong with the prices of everything, it cost sofnmwldnr8.65
Does anyone know what cable mod cable extensions are 3mm? I know the pro series isnโt.
what's that currency @frank pine
thats qatar riyals
ohhh
Hey guys what is a good mid tower case under $100 usd?
corsair 275r airflow
Why?
td500 mesh, lian li lancool 2 mesh
its big, looks great, has good airflow
comes with 3 fans
both of them are great
pick whichever looks better to u
Anyone want to corroborate?
iCue 200T airflow
So you guys are saying case choice is mostly subjective?
^^^
@honest spindle airflow
The only quantifiable way to compare cases is airflow
Everything else is subjective
Therefore, it's completely personal preference beyond the basic qualification of not being nzxt having airflow
What did nzxt do to you?
lol
@honest spindle nzxt doesn't make products that make sense for price to performance
Ahh, ok
Either way overpriced, or has bad performance, or both
I'm looking at you h510 elite
lmfao
lol
So I should just find one I like the look of/specs of, and then compare it to other good airflow cases to see if it's airflow is decent
Mym
how do u do the strikethrough thingy
I can rattle off some good airflow cases if you want
Please do
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Coolermaster td500 mesh
Coolermaster H500 (no suffix)
Phanteks P500a
Lian li lancool ii mesh
Fractal design Meshify C (might need another fan)
my fav ^
Corsair 220t airflow
Corsair 275r airflow
Corsair 4000d airflow
@honest spindle those are the main good cases I would look through
p400a?
o
It doesn't get a recommendation from me

@daring marsh smh y'all got your hashtags wrong, Naed best teachie
nzxt
sucksis decent
@daring marsh you said that literally just so you could use strike through didn't you
still dont know how to do that
Strike through?
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@elfin trout
:)
meh u
make ghosty sad
why ghosty sad
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hey do you guys know a good black and red case for a 1000 dollar build
You can vertical mount a gpu on a non vertical mount case if you have an adapter right? Where can i get one of those?
hmm ok
Is the H710i good? And will it be on sale on black friday on newegg?
i mean, its not the worst case
its one of the nzxt cases that have more than no airflow
its a big boi tho
how many fans do I need if I have the meshify C case?
i bought a 5-pack, and then im using the 2 stock fans for the top
has space for 6 120mm's, so you could buy just a 4 pack, only thing is 4 packs arent that common
could also get just a 3 pack
then use the 2 stock fans as exhausts
technically it supports 7 120mm fans
but i feel like the bottom fan is never really gonna be a thing...
@dawn matrix I was going the AIO route what do you recommend for that?
i'd get a 5 pack then
or 6
these are what i got
but could also get something like this
for a different look
cool
and if you dont want rgb fans, budget rgb fans specifically... im not the person to ask
thats the only kinda fan i know lul
What case is the best? My motherboard is micro atx.
if your mobo is matx you have the option to go with a case that supports atx boards
wait nvm they jus looked small
how much money you willing to spend?
@snow spoke $70 for case $100 for case and fans.
jus get a case with a mesh front that comes with three fans, pop two in the front and one in the back
@snow spoke I was thinking about getting the phantex without the included fans because their controller only supports their fans and putting in a 5 pack of fans.
They make a model without the included fans
Because that case and the 3 fan pack that they make would be too much but the case without fans and 5 separate fans is cheaper.
that would work fine as well
yeah
@dawn matrix do u know if most A-RGB fans can be compatible with the Cooler Master fan controller?
i'd just get a 5 fan kit that comes with a controller
And the phanteks case?
and as long as its the same connector, theres no reason it shouldnt be compatible
theres 14$ rgb controllers on newegg btw
10 connnectors
do the same job
Ok, but most of the fan packs I've seen come with them already so should I be good?
yes
the only fans that really know of and can vouch for are the ezdiy ones as those are the ones i boughtr
my fan realm is the budget rgb ones
Just a question, what case do you prefer out of those?
So you would go with one of the CM cases?
Yeah, a matx would just look better in the MB320L
Maybe I will be going with that than.
i like my builds small so id go for the mb320l personally
if you havnt already looked, take a look at the meshify c and td500 mesh as those are also common airflow case options
You know what, I just considered this the MB320L will fit on my desk better too!
and the coolermaster nr600 which is more of a clean, budget option that still looks nice
its kinda like an nzxt case, but with airflo
Yeah, people convinced me away from that.
h710 has some vents which kinda improves airflow
deepcool steam castle
NZXT h710 is too much, but I may get Corsair 275R.
The deepcool isn't my favorite either so down to those 4.
Do you think a 450w 80+ platinum would be able to handle a rtx 2060
The recommended is 500w but idk how much of a difference that 80+ platinum does
The cpu is a i5 9400 btw
450w is fine for that
Ok, so If I were to get a system with a 3080 and a Ryzen 9 5900x, an M.2 SSD, 2 SATA SSDs and 3 SATA HDDs, do I need a 1000W PSU?
@late needle not really but its okay
I mean I had my 750W for....I think 5 years, bit it's starting to show its age rn xD
Between the following PSU's which should I get? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PZR9JLT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_-82SFbSAVBG56?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The NZXT has more reliability, so I say go for the NZXT
May I ask why is it so hard to find a chassis that still supports 5 ยผ" and 3 ยฝ" drive bays? I have a 3ยฝ" card reader and a 5ยผ" Blu-ray burner in my current system and I need a case that supports both, but they practically don't exist anymore
Thatโs cause they are practically never used at this point blue ray is becoming VHS . Companies have to build products around the kist popular technologies to appeal to the average person and make a good profit. Itโs just how it is :/.
Boo! Gimme my drive bays! I want mah optical drives! And obviously my card reader in the case cause I use my camera a lot
I may sound old school. But that's because I am XD
25 years old and I love the novelty of using older media like CD, DVD, Blu-ray.....Floppy discs even....yes, I said floppies. Ol school MS-DOS
Lol
We use to have something called zipdrives
Too lol
Man that made me feel old
Oh my God, Zip drives, remember when the Pocket Zip was called the Clik drive after the Click of death lawsuit was settled?
im sorry what
@late needle just use an external drive bay
is the mx330-g good for airflow?
ROFL
Whatโs a good psu for around 60 ish
@elfin trout is a 1660 better then a 1650 super ?
yes
I got about 200$ for a gpu what should I get @elfin trout
@uncut stump
I have the mx330-g
It has a mesh front panel with room for 3 intake, and comes with an outtake on the back, and two outtake or intakes on the top. I would do two on top, two in the back and three in the front for optimal airflow
The two on the top and the one in the back I would put as outtake
ehhh
Wdym eh
It has a mesh front panel so itโs instantly better than half the cases Iโve seen
Unless they have like side intakes which are usually on high end cases
Mx330-g is a great value case
Just make sure to break off the brackets before you start building, to mount the gpu
@frosty galleon the only once I know for sure is good is the GF1, but, instead of any of those, have you looked at the Phanteks Amp? ๐
@chrome iris doesn't look like it goes to 850w
heck
Is a 650w psu good enough for a 6800xt and amd 5600x
Should I go 750w then
id recommend it, but im not that talented in pc building and stuff so you shouldn't go by my thoughts lol
Is a 650w psu good enough for a 6800xt and amd 5600x
@small charm It's good enough if you're not overclocking an 8-core or higher CPU. I can run hours of benchmarks on a 620 watt Seasonic power supply with a 2070 Super and a 3950x and it does fine*, but it's NOT overclocked, nothing is. It just depends if you want to add a ton of stuff to the PC or not. I'd recommend 700w to be safe during large upgrades honestly, as you're right at the limit there if you add some more components and overclock. The CPU TDP for the 5600X I believe still lists it as a 65w chip, and when overclocked, you'll never see 165w on the cpu alone with the stock cooler with normal settings. I'd reckon it'd be hard to sustain that wattage on PBO unless you're liquid cooled - and the GPU definitely does NOT use 450~500w. 300w maybe on a top-end card, but again, unless you're overclocking things, nothing should make you run out of specs for a GOOD, WELL MADE 650w PSU. If buying a label-brand, make sure the PSU can live up to it's advertised output (most can, unless you get a cheap lesser-known brand).
*fine, yes fine, it does hours of benchmarks on a 2070 Super + 3950x air cooled just dandy. The air coming out of the system is mildly warm and air out of the back of the PSU is barely warm at all. That PSU is loafing. I am hard pressed to even get to 500 watt with this config. Now enable PBO and overclock the CPU and GPU with liquid cooling, add a bunch of RGB and drives, and you'll hit that 620 or 650 watt limit eventually. Just don't be stupid about it and you'll be fine on a well made 650w unit.
Label brands = Corsair, NZXT, Enyle, PowerSpec, Ultra, Rosewill, and such. These are labels that buy a pre-specced PSU or custom-spec a PSU unit, from one of the major OEM's such as FSP, Seasonic, Great Wall (I believe they make their own), ChannelWell Tech (CWT) and a few others who's names elude me at the moment - though there's not many left to mention. Sparkle I believe makes their own units - which range from complete rubbish which should be thrown out, to actually well-made server power supplies (yes, Sparkle can make a reliable solid power supply, but the chances of actually finding one of their well made units under their own name is very unlikely at-best).
Running your system with a powerful GPU and CPU requires a solid power supply that can continuously output it's rated maximums at whatever temperature exists for it (cheaper brands rate max at a lower temp, pay attention to this!). Also, getting a better power supply if you don't have the world's most stable power is a very good thing to do. If you run on UPS systems now and then when the power goes out, or have a whole-house generator like we do, make sure the PSU has PFC (power factor correction) so that it can properly adjust the incoming backup-generated pulse / square-ish wave power wave into a proper sine-wave that your power supply expects to normally have. Not having PFC and running off a backup can cause lasting damage to DC components as the resultant 3.3V/5V/12V will not be steady and ends up all over the place.
Making sure your power supply offers surge/inrush protection, underpower/overpower protection, over temperature protection and a whole host of others, is a good indicator of a quality power supply (not a promise, but a GOOD indicator).
Sometimes a label brand - I'll use NZXT in this case - can improve upon an OEM's design. NZXT specced a power supply from Seasonic, that's actually made a little better than most mainstream Seasonic units. Not that you'd need better, but these offer improved ripple like you'd only find on top-shelf expensive 200$+ Seasonic units. So label brands don't always = bad. They don't HAVE to be bad, they can sometimes be great - top of their game. However, just because you bought XYZ model from - I'll use Corsair in this example - and it was made by OEM "ABC", doesn't mean you'll still get the same unit (even with the same model number) a year later.
Just one thing you must check, make sure it supports the proper EPS12V spec (that it has the proper 4-pin and 8-pin CPU power plugs) that your motherboard desires when picking out a PSU, older models on sale may not have all the right plugs and using y-splitters can be bad/dangerous!
That concludes today's BOOK of a post. I hope it helps someone! Feel free to post any corrections or ask for clarification (if I'm here and I see it, I'll try to help, 25+ years of experience in PC hardware since before Windows 95 came out for our 486 PC's).
tl;dr?
no, you can read
damn, i guess we have a new PSU connoisseur
Honestly I'll just take any functional PSU at this point. It's the last thing I need and I've been waiting on it for over a month at this point (it was on backorder), any other options I look at that provide enough power are massively price gouged right now.
what CPU and GPU are you trying to power?
picking a psu isnt all that hard, there are plenty of options that are more than good enough
5900x and 3080, but there's a lot of other stuff in the case, so taking into account headroom I'd not feel safe with anything under 800.
which model 3080?
founders
@sweet lava you overclocking or just setting PBO2?
my PCPartPicker estimated wattage is 726 right now, and yes, I know that is not a perfect metric
And yes I was planning on overclocking it to whatever safe limits I can get.
I have a Corsair HX Platinum 1200 on order right now that is, in theory, supposed to be here on Thursday if Amazon actually ships it. Got it mostly because, at the time, it was a decent price (got it for $210 after a rebate I had), and everything else with a lower wattage was even more expensive. Figured I'd rather just go wildly overkill at a reasonable price then pay price gouge rates for an 860 or 1000w.
But if that does not arrive on time I might start looking at other options.
max sustained power draw is like 370w, but thats like, worst case scenario, and the 5900x pulls like 230w, plus roughly 70w for the rest of the system
so, you could realistically use a 550w psu, but i still wouldnt suggest it lol
because most 550w psus arent good enough to handle how the 3080 draws power
Well I also have a ton of case fans, the AIO bump, everything has built in lighting because that's a thing now, 3 SSDs, 2HDDs, and so on.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VXX4GMV
still wouldnt recommend this, but this is one of the few 550w psus that would actually work lol
I'm not really sure how to even figure out the power-draw per fan without tools to measure them :/
thats why i tacked on the additional ~70w
thats the average wattage of the rest of the components on the 12v rail
I was looking at the 860 version of that PSU, since I have an older fractal in my current computer.
an ssd, an hdd or 2, a handful of case fans
those are my suggestions
also
any of these three will do great, the revolution is a well-built multirail, the ION+ is platnum efficiency rated, and the corsair is just really freaking good
You think a 660 would handle this overclocked under a full rendering load? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/293Bj2
if so that's great
Again, it was the only one not $100 over MSRP when I ordered it lol
aorus master is a solid board
a wee bit overkill, but not too much overkill like some boards lol
I needed the 3rd m.2
yeah
would've done the net one down otherwise. The pro or whatever it is
imo, just get the revolution d.f.
just as good as the other 2
but its an 850w
didnt even notice that lol
also, you dont even need to activate windows if you dont want to
you can just run it and put up with the watermark
also, personalizing windows is limited, but doesnt effect actual usage
then, if later you decide its too bothersone, you can slap a 5 dollar windows key from ebay in the activation box
not that expensive for a four way gen4 expansion card for NVMe
https://www.amazon.com/M-2-X16-Expansion-Card-Supports/dp/B084HMHGSP
yeah, i would have suggested something like that and a cheaper board, but hes already bought everything
Yeah, it's fully assembled minus any way to actually power it now.
but yeah, 850df is good



@frank pine