#cases-psu-and-cooling

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elfin trout
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that list was 1100$ without counting the 500$ 3070

vocal tartan
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3070 strix bad

elfin trout
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anyways

vocal tartan
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3070 strix = 630

elfin trout
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just consider it

surreal magnet
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3070 strix good wym

gray oak
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yeah i kinda just threw stuf in there

surreal magnet
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oh, for the price, yeah

vocal tartan
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i just don't like the pricing

surreal magnet
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the card itself is fine tho

vocal tartan
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card is great otherwise

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yeah

gray oak
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is there any advantage to the psu i had selected versus the one in your list?

elfin trout
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it's better

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but also way to expensive

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I'd do like Phanteks amp 750w for equal quality to yours

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I try to stick to a strict budget with my lists

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so compromises were made

gray oak
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fair enough

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also, stock cooler okay?

snow zodiac
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Okay so uh

elfin trout
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mhm

gray oak
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alrighty, and if i did go for a cooler, just bc, what would you suggest?

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fan or aio, either one, preferably a recomendation for each even though im leaning more fan now

elfin trout
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Gammaxx 400 at 25$

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Mugen 5 rev b at 50$

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Scythe Fuma 2 at 70$

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NH-D15/DRP4 at 90-100$.

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Arctic freezer ii 360mm at 120$

gray oak
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alrighty, sweet

snow zodiac
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Any comments on that one Mr1111?

gray oak
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honestly, with the right fan cooler, nonstock obviously, you shouldn't need an aio

elfin trout
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no oc

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just don't oc

gray oak
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on and mr1111, what about an rgb fan block?, any suggestions on that

elfin trout
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if you already own it

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@gray oak throw rgb out the window

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:P

gray oak
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but muh colors

elfin trout
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if you really had to, maybe cnps20x

worldly dust
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I would OC it

gray oak
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alrighty

worldly dust
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a 3600 at 4.2 on all cores should be easy to do

elfin trout
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not much perf gain tho

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no reason to over PBO

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imo at least

gray oak
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the main reason im so rgb wanting is bc i have all the rgb peripherals and currently everything syncs so i kinda want to do that for the future

worldly dust
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@elfin trout that could be like 6-9 fps

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lol

elfin trout
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no one even has radeon 6800

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@worldly dust I mean over using PBO

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and also, I tried 4ghz vs 4.3ghz with 0 fps difference on my end :(

worldly dust
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your problem was you werent playing csgo

elfin trout
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lol

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6-9 csgo fps makes sense

worldly dust
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it would have to be something really cpu heavy tbh

elfin trout
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mhm

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yea it makes little difference

surreal magnet
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minecraft

worldly dust
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csgo as mentioned

surreal magnet
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most modern RTS games are multithread heavy

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like anno 1800

worldly dust
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does starcitizen count as a game cuz it can use full cpu and 32 gigs of ram at any given point lol

elfin trout
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lol no

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@surreal magnet tell that to Paradox

surreal magnet
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tell what to who

elfin trout
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Paradox interactive

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game company

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all of their games are single core heavy

surreal magnet
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ahh

worldly dust
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I ❤️ stellaris

elfin trout
gray oak
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yeah, stac citizen chugs on anything, i would love to see the new ryzen's with a 3090 or the best 6000 play it, even with 128 gigs of ram

worldly dust
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its needs them

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my 2080ti with 64g of ram struggles

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some days are better than others

surreal magnet
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the 64gb of ram struggles?

worldly dust
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I dont play often just check in every now and then to visit my $50 I spent a few years ago

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it has memory leak issues

surreal magnet
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oh phew

worldly dust
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its not because it actually needs it lol

surreal magnet
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i thought it was just like, "we use dis now"

gray oak
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yeah, star citizen is absolutely massive, and it isn't fully optimized at all, so it uses anything it can get it's fingers on

worldly dust
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yeah its a good stress test

gray oak
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facts

worldly dust
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red dead 2 is pretty greedy too if you have it to give

gray oak
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that's a fair point

worldly dust
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but in my experience most games never take more than 12g

glacial python
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anyone know why psu's are getting so expensive

worldly dust
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Covid, US election, Shortage.... I'm not sure in 2020 it could be anything

glacial python
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yah that does sound about right

void terrace
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@worldly dust I had a laptop that couldn't even load it in, I would spawn in Hurston and get 1 frame every couple seconds. I upgraded to this just to play. Old laptop was 1050 ti, i5 8400, 8 gig ram (and the game had to be on a hard disk, because boot drive couldn't be upgraded easily)

worldly dust
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lol

void terrace
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It's just so strange, that setup has handled consistent performance for 60 frames on most major titles with medium settings, but holy crap, Star Citizen just really chugs

outer holly
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Idk if this goes here but what size psu should I get if I'm buying a 3080 and a 5600x? Pls tag me with the answer

elfin trout
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@outer holly 750w works with some headroom, 650w works in a pinch too.

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I'd suggest a Phanteks amp 750w at ~115$ or something similar

late needle
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So who still uses Chassis with external drive bays? I hope I'm not the only one since there are games I play that still require CD-ROM installation

steep bramble
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Is cardboard a good case

worldly dust
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no

wet adder
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are azza pzaz 80+ bronze units any good? anyone have experience with em?

stable crest
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I need an advice do u think this psu is reliable I saw some videos where they were saying it was good but I am not sure could some one tell me?

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Kolink Enclave this the name of the psu

stable crest
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what psu should I get for a r7 2700x and a rx 5500xt

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under 70

vocal tree
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Pure Power 11 500w maybe

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might be at or above 70 USD

stable crest
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I found this one under 70

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be quiet! System Power B9 600W ATX

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for 63 euros is it a good deal?

vocal tree
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System Power U9?

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nvm I see

stable crest
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yes is it good ?

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is it worth it to go semimodular

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or is it useless?

vocal tree
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sure, you could go with the B9

stable crest
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I dont understand are u saying it is worth going for a semi modular psu

vocal tree
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probably not

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I'm not sure though, I haven't seen the B9 before

stable crest
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beacuse I am choosing beetween 600w non modular and 500w semi

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thay are both the same price

vocal tree
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I personally avoid modularity, but it might be convenient for when you don't need to plug something in

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such as an extra PCIe cable, or SATA cable

stable crest
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I know I think I should go for a the non modular 600w so that I can upgrade gpu later maybe

scenic lance
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is this a good brand?

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never heard of it but its on sale for a huge chunk

elfin trout
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@scenic lance

scenic lance
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so I should go for it then

elfin trout
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It's equivelant to an EVGA BR

scenic lance
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I mean thats a damn good deal for gold certified fully modular

elfin trout
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so not really

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uh

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1st, efficiency rating doesn't matter for quality

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2nd, it's semi-modular

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not full modular

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neither of them tell you about the quality of the PSU

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Easiest way to check quality

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They list their sources if you want to look further.

scenic lance
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would this be better

elfin trout
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BR600 is plenty for most people

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Why do you think you need 700w?

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What are you trying to power?

scenic lance
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I think I should have at least a 650w

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3070 and r5 5600x

elfin trout
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That only pulls around 400w tdp wise

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maybe 500w under complete synthetic load

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no NEED for 650w

scenic lance
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Ive been told it would be wise to get one but yeah I dont really think I need more power than 600

nova verge
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I have the chance to buy a thermaltake tr2 rx 850w psu for $40, the thing is like 9 years old but would it still be just fine

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I think a 850w is overkill for a r7 3700x and a 3070 but for $40

worldly dust
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has it been running for the last 9 years or sitting

unreal garden
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seen some crappy reviews on the tr2

worldly dust
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I would agree it "should" be fine

unreal garden
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then again the chance of you having an issue is minimal

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you dont really need 850W just cuz it's 850W and cheap doesnt really mean you should buy it

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850W system you'll likely be plugging some higher end stuff into it, if that was the case would you really wanna skimp on a psu?

worldly dust
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I wont fault you for going over I like to go about 200w over whats needed just so the fan on PSU isn't running full tilt everytime you load a game

chrome iris
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@nova verge PSUs shouldnt be bought used, especially for 9 years.

iron rover
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Found a newegg deal on blackfriday.com about a EVGA supernove 750 G5 for $70. Fully modular and 80+ gold rated. Is that site accurate?

static aspen
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Does it lead you to newegg

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And the product at that price

iron rover
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no, it says its a black friday deal

young osprey
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thats a good price if you can actually get it

green shoal
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hey guys

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whats the best 450 watt psu under 50 bucks

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need it for a budget build

worldly dust
green shoal
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k

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thx

worldly dust
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is not modular though

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but its cheap 🙂

green shoal
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that's ok

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it just needs to be cheap and work well

chrome iris
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@green shoal you could get a 450 BR or 450 BT off EVGA B stock for cheap

unreal garden
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Maybe I'm missing something but I haven't seen many great deals yet on black friday sales

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Feels like newegg put most of their discounts on old B450 boards

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They tryna get rid of

dawn matrix
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its not black friday yet...

ivory wind
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anyone have any experience with the Define Nano S?

timber jasper
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Anyone have a recommendation on. 2u rack mount case?

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Probably throw a evga gold 500w into it.

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Low power i3

unreal garden
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@dawn matrix have you not seen the Newegg black friday stuff is going on right now

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?

dawn matrix
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wat

tender root
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@ivory wind yes, built in it a number of times.

ivory wind
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experiences?

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im considering building in it

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my main concern is airflow and whether or not i need an aio

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i dont think i would

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but idk

minor portalBOT
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SIX#7554 has been warned

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timber jasper
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Screw AIO

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HSF is fine for most ppl

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Pumps never go bad, doesn't have one

tender root
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you dont need an AIO

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its a nice case to build in.

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airflow is fine in it

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card thickness for the GPU is the only thing you have to be aware of

timber jasper
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Using a Meshifi, love that case

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Fractal has good stuff

wispy raven
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So ive asked about this before, but I just want to confirm it will be alright. Im planning on upgrading my build to an R7 5800x, that would make my build in total pull like 400-415 watts. My PSU is only 450 watt, and I really really dont want to break anything.

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The PSU is a corsair CXM with the grey label

foggy sequoia
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quick question is the evga 650w supernova g+ good for the money

steep bramble
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What’s a good 80$ case

tender root
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@wispy raven you are pushing way too close to the limit on that particular psu for my personal liking

rigid frigate
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Is this good?

tender root
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when the Phantek AMP is priced what it is? no

rigid frigate
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thx

wispy raven
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ughhhh thats what I thought too

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I just really don't want to upgrade that

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Any good power supply deals?

young osprey
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Segotep? Is that higher or lower quality than sparkle? Lol

surreal magnet
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i wouldnt trust it

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Segotep cases tho

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are awesome

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i use one

quiet pond
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I have one question tho

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i am receiving a 3070

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and i would like some cable extensions by cable mod and what cable to i need for a power cable to the 3070

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is it a 6+6

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or 8+8

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or others

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thanks

worldly dust
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8

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8+8

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make sure its the 8pin+8pin to a 12pin

quiet pond
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and then you have either a 4 pin or 2 pin hanging out?

worldly dust
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no 8 goes to 8 from PSU and 8 to 8 also from PSU and the 12pin goes into the 3070

quiet pond
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But i am looking for the extentions

worldly dust
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yes...

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there will be a 8+8 to 12 in the 3070 box

quiet pond
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thank you

worldly dust
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but if you dont want that one you will just extend your cords and not use the one that comes with the 3070

quiet pond
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i have one thing tho i should just order on the cable mod website a 8+8

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then

worldly dust
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8+8 to a 12

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remember they changed the connector on the 3000 series

quiet pond
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but how is 8+8 1

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12*

worldly dust
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a sleeve for last gen cards wont work

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the 12 is a proprietery nvidia plug

quiet pond
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thank you

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very much

worldly dust
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yeah I just dont want you to buy an older sleeve and not have the right cords

quiet pond
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wanna be in my server

worldly dust
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not really I have too many as it is

quiet pond
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ok

worldly dust
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I appreciate the offer though

quiet pond
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thanks

lime halo
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hi

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@quiet pond

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:D

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aare you my best friend

quasi inlet
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ok what's a good full tower case, that includes one or two fans preferably, and won't break the bank?

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I've been looking at the phanteks enthoo pro 2 and the lian li, but both don't include any fans...

vocal tree
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I think the TT H18 style cases all include one fan at the back

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that would be H18, Core G21, Core X71 (this is the full tower version), etc.

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wait nvm X71 cases are expensive right now

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or just are wait lemme see

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ehe yes they are 160 USD

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is that just normal for full tower?

quasi inlet
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basically yeah

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I was expecting to spend a fair chunk of change but I prefer to keep it under $250

worldly dust
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enthoo is worth it

vocal tree
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oh, 160 is a good price then

quasi inlet
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and as far as fans go, I don't care about rgb at all

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so if I were to go with the enthoo, should I get a bunch of noctuas and take the hit? or uh.. be quiet makes solo fans right?

worldly dust
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yeah the noctuas are the best but the be quiet or something cheaper would be just fine

quasi inlet
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I wonder if it would be worth it to get noctuas though and just.. never have to buy any fans ever again

worldly dust
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try to get like a 3 or 4 pack to save money

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4 would be nice 3 in front one in back but if you have to go with the 3 2 in front and 1 in back

quasi inlet
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what does pwm mean again

elfin trout
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Arctic P12/P14

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is the best cheap fans

quasi inlet
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and they're like 4/45

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yeah that's pretty good

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enthoo with arctic case fans it is

worldly dust
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pulse width modulation...?

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for the fans?

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means its a AC fan not DC

quasi inlet
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is that

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..good?

worldly dust
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PWM fans can usually spin slower while DC fans can spin faster overall

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pwm is usually best for a pc unless you want them going full blast all the time

static aspen
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is the best cheap fans
@elfin trout yo that answers my question from like 3 days ago tyty lol

elfin trout
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lol

uneven wigeon
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Question to LANCOOL ii Mesh and I guess the LANCOOL ii owners: is there enough clearance for a front mounted AIO in hoses down orientation? It looks like there should be from the pictures, but I don't want to get the case and have there not be enough clearance after all.

vagrant pier
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Hey

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what case should I get

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:\

ornate dagger
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i want to get cable extensions at somepoint son how long should i get them?

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looking to get from cablemod

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should i get cables the same length as the ones that come from my psu and just replace?

rich hazel
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Guys does the nzxt h500 have enough airflow for 5600x and 6800xt

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I’m adding fans btw

worldly dust
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yes

rich hazel
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Thx

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Can you take off the front panel

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Like with a screw driver or something

worldly dust
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yeah it probably pops off

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with plastic tabs just be careful

rich hazel
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Thx I want to customize it lol

worldly dust
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if you have trouble use a butter knife or something to slip in there and depress the tab so you dont break one

rich hazel
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Ok

pseudo raven
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@rich hazel sorry but the nzxt h500 is a hot box

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No matter how many fans you add there's not alot of places for air to come in

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Look at something like a p300a p350a or p400a

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Or a lian li 215

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Performance over aethetics

rich hazel
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Nilboggen told me you can remove the front panels so imma drill some holes thx though

pseudo raven
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That should work

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You would even go a step further and add fabric mesh to the front like how the p600s is

ornate dagger
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how should I do cable extensions?

worldly dust
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how?

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I mean you buy them you plug them in and its done

vocal tree
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they plug into the psu and then into the board

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ezpz

young osprey
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extensions don't plug into PSU

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they plug into PSU cables

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to EXTEND them

pseudo raven
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If you get full custom cables make sure you get the right cables because cables are not universal they have different pin layouts

vocal tree
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and the psu cable is attached to what

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a cow

pseudo raven
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What

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Oh I see

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They plug into the psu itself

mellow field
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guys is it weird to have a matx board and a smaller gpu like zotac 3070 in a mid tower case?

main marlin
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no

mellow field
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thats what i was thinking

honest rose
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What is wrong with the thermal take smart psu? I heard it was bad but all I have been seeing is doa and it has a 5 year warranty so why would that matter that much

empty token
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I have used 7 of them and haven’t had any problems with them so far

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But I don’t have very high wattage components in those systems so Idk if having some higher wattage draws might cause some issues

main marlin
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why would you have 7 of the same psu

vocal drum
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He needs 3500 watts on the cheap

chrome iris
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3500 watts?!

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what is this man powering?

dawn matrix
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2 3090s

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Lmao

mellow field
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just get a power plant man

teal creek
unreal garden
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Have my doubts

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Only has two ratings

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Try seeing reviews on Amazon if you can find them there and look for an unusually high number of 1 star reviews

chrome iris
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customer reviews dont tell you anything really useful

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you need to look at professional reviews

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and I'd assume that PSU is just eh

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since there's no info on it, try going for a Phanteks Amp, its around the same price.

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@teal creek

unreal garden
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I mean they kinda can tell you about a product if there's a ton of bad reviews on something

teal creek
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Is it good? Lol sorry got to ask. I’ll look at reviews too

chrome iris
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the gigabyte one or the phanteks one?

teal creek
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Phanteks

chrome iris
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the phanteks one is good

teal creek
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Thanks

chrome iris
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thats why im recommending it over the gigabyte one

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cause we dont know about the gigabyte one

teal creek
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Gotcha gotcha thanks

chrome iris
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np

static aspen
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if using a matx board is there a good case around 60 bucks with good airflow and fans

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going for something small for a friend and just looking for options

chrome iris
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MB311L?

static aspen
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ill look at it

surreal magnet
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MB311L epic case

static aspen
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looks good cuz the matx wont make it look empty

snow zodiac
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My sister is also getting an matx board, would that be a better case than the other one she was gonna get?

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It was the p360a

surreal magnet
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get whatever you like the look of

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if youre after thermal performance or cost, then yes, get the MB311L

snow zodiac
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What would you say the best thermal performance is with a regular atx mid tower case

ruby otter
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any recommendations of itx cases that will fit the 3080?

rich hazel
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lol

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i have no idea

ruby otter
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half are overpriced or useless for thermals

mellow field
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I have in my plan a mid tower atx case with a matx mobo, should i get an matx case or should i cut costs somewhere to get an atx mobo?

dawn matrix
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i mean, how much does your current motherboard cost?

woven beacon
willow field
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Seasonic makes pretty decent PSUs

woven beacon
willow field
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Oh yeah.

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Not sure if they're the same, this is 650w gold and fully modular as well

woven beacon
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thanks

mellow field
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i mean, how much does your current motherboard cost?
@dawn matrix its the asrock b550m pro 4 which is about 175 sgd here

dawn matrix
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i mean, i dont think you'd need to cut costs to get an atx motherboard

tender root
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remember, region availability

mellow field
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the cheapest b550 atx board available is about 210

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so should i go down to matx case to match my mobo

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or is there significant benefits to keeping a mid tower case

chrome iris
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not needed, and having an atx case lets you upgrade to an atx mobo in the future

tender root
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except, atx aint going to be cheaper or make more sense in the future

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especially not now that sli/xfire is finally put to rest

chrome iris
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but it looks cool

mellow field
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that was my thinking as well

chrome iris
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and high end boards are mostly atx

mellow field
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im already pushing my budget with the atx case

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would matx cases be cheaper?

chrome iris
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sometimes

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depends on the case

mellow field
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kinda mid range ones?

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like the phanteks p400a or CM td500 mesh equivalent

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i have no knowledge of matx cases

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except cheap local brands

chrome iris
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yeah those are high end cases

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most matx cases will be cheaper than those

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but there are also a lot of atx cases still cheaper than those

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like P300A mesh perhaps?

mellow field
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nah its impossible to find on the market

chrome iris
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hmm

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im gonna assume youre not located in the us

mellow field
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singapore

chrome iris
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oo

mellow field
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do you have any recommendations for matx cases that i can go check out?

chrome iris
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MB311L

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from cooler master

tender root
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try and have a look at something like Define Mini C

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thats by fractal design

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Meshify Mini is also an option

mellow field
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omigod the define mini C is mad expensive

chrome iris
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Fractal Focus G mini

mellow field
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and doesnt look like it has good airflow

chrome iris
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Fractal Focus G mini

mellow field
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yeah i cant find it on sale

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and naed's ones are more expensive than the atx cases i mentioned earlier

tender root
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it was something to look at

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you asked for something to look at, you got it :)

mellow field
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yeah thanks

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do people put matx mobo in atx cases

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so if i do i wont get judged hard

tender root
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i imagine that your local shops have filters you can enable to filter so you only see the matx or smaller cases

mellow field
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its saturated with tecware cases

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which are cheap but i have no idea how good they are

gray marlin
edgy tiger
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depends @gray marlin

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ooh didnt see the username lol

tender root
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@gray marlin Phantek AMP is around

edgy tiger
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it will be good enough

gray marlin
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@gray marlin Phantek AMP is around
@tender root alright ill look into it, ty

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what wattage, the 750 or 650?

tender root
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for that list you can easily get away with the 650

scenic lance
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Ive been looking at gpu riser cables for a vertical mount...seen some labeled pci e 4.0, most of them aren't labeled like that tho...is that a thing? Are there specific cables for the 4.0 bus

edgy tiger
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hmm.. I dont know- all I know is that thermaltake has been working for us

scenic lance
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Would you guys recommend the Enermax revolution df as a good 850w psu?

elfin trout
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Yes

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Revolution D.F. is a great PSU

scenic lance
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Thanks. Some reviews say that it could come with flaws so I’m just making sure

tender root
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yes, it comes with the flaw that you might not need a new psu for the next 10 years

elfin trout
surreal magnet
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yo

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can you link that sheet?

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wanna add it to my collection

elfin trout
surreal magnet
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never noticed

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huh

scenic lance
#

It’s also pinned in this channel

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I just figured out

surreal magnet
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the tier list is

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not the spreadsheet

scenic lance
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Oh uh

tender root
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because the spreadsheet is linked from the tierlist :)

unreal garden
young osprey
#

@scenic lance yes, some cables will not work for pcie 4.0

vocal drum
#

What's the cheapest (80+ at least) modular psu that you know of?

vocal drum
#

I see, thanks for the advice

willow field
#

@vocal drum Full, semi, or non?

vocal drum
#

Full or semi would be nice

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Interesting amounts of power, but it's 80+ bronze

elfin trout
#

interesting

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Also

vocal drum
#

It looks like a good psu, I'll have to read some reviews

willow field
#

Well, you didn't specify what 80+ in your earlier question

vocal drum
#

Yeah

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that's fine

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I had 80+ white in my list before

elfin trout
#

@vocal drum "cheap" and "good" are different things, just to make sure, are you just trying to get a cheap PSU without a care, or are you trying to get a half decent PSU?

vocal drum
#

something that's decent but won't waste money

elfin trout
#

There, that's a bit better >:D

vocal drum
#

I definitely don't want to blow up 800 dollars worth of pc

elfin trout
#

But anyways, the Vortex bronze, is tier D on the tier list, I'd at least get tier C

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something like a EVGA BR 500w (when in stock) at 50$, or a BR 600w at 62$

vocal drum
#

Are they semi modular?

elfin trout
#

no

willow field
elfin trout
#

eh, same quality as BR imo

vocal drum
#

Looks like it

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I just want the semi-modular so I have a little less cable management to do

elfin trout
#

eh

vocal drum
#

I can't stand a mess of cables

elfin trout
#

it's called "stuff it and leave it" :D

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90% of cases has enough space to stuff whatever you don't want to see out back

vocal drum
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I have 3 cables because I only have a laptop currently and I bought a 50 pack of velcro straps for them

willow field
#

If you have a case with a big enough power supply shroud, can just stuff and leave

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Or tie them up and stuff them

elfin trout
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Modular adds price that goes slightly against one of the requirements ;)

📎 unknown.png
#

jk, but I'll take a look for modular

vocal drum
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I guess lol

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but it's not a waste for me

willow field
#

A fully-modular is pricier, but you can plug and unplug as needed

elfin trout
#

80$ full mod

vocal drum
#

That's pretty good

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I'm gonna keep watching for deals before I buy anything, but that might be the one I get

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I'd probably get the 650w cause it's only 8 dollars more

willow field
#

Also make sure that the PSU would fit your needs as you upgrade. I bought a 650w Corsair and it didn't have the extra CPU plug I needed for my board, so ye.

elfin trout
#

mhm

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@willow field might want to take the "needed" out of the sentence, but yea

willow field
#

Well, true

elfin trout
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no current gen consumer chips that exists needs the extra plug on stock

vocal drum
#

That's good advice, I'm probably gettiong a r5 3600

elfin trout
#

10900k stock runs with a single 8pin EPS cable

willow field
#

I overclock the heck out of my CPU tho, so that plug would help

vocal drum
#

I'm thinking about over clocking, but I might not

elfin trout
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Are you doing a 3950x OC with LN2

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if not, 95% chance you don't need the extra plug.

vocal drum
#

ryzen 5 3600 lol

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or maybe 5 5600x if I can afford it

willow field
#

Fair enough. Oh well

elfin trout
#

It should be ~150w rated on 8 pin eps, plus whatever power from socket

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some say 300w rated, I don't really know about that, so I just mirror 150w rated per 8pin PCIe.

vocal drum
#

This one only has 1 cpu 8 pin, but that should be fine tbh

elfin trout
#

Extra plug is very much extra.

vocal drum
#

If I was gonna need that, I'd probably be spending quite a bit extra anyway

elfin trout
#

never needed :)

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But 5600x will be very good if you can afford it at some point

dawn matrix
#

Yea, I’m getting a 3600 then upgrading to 5000 some point in the future

willow field
#

I have a 3600 rn, is pretty decent

vocal drum
#

I've already got my gpu, it was an easy decision for me, but my cpu is what I have to put more thought into

late star
#

Cheap 750w?

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Psu

elfin trout
#

Phanteks amp 750w is a cheap good one

late star
#

Does it work as well as corsair

elfin trout
#

what

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it's as good as RMx if that's what you're asking

late star
#

Ye

elfin trout
#

it's much better than crappy corsair models like CXm CV and crap

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better than CX

lofty pewter
#

RMx be slightly better, but not enough to care

elfin trout
#

mhm

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Amp does have jap caps, so a bit over RM maybe?

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Well, close enough either way

lofty pewter
#

idk

late star
#

Alr

elfin trout
#

and worse :)

late star
#

I think 650w should be enough for a i7 9700k and a 5700xt right?

lofty pewter
#

2060 Super is more recent then 2080Ti

elfin trout
#

mhm

lofty pewter
#

RM is budget model is basically what it is, just like 2060S to 2080Ti

late star
#

16 gb ram

elfin trout
#

@oak nimbus and no, RM isn't a replacement for RMx

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it's not the RMx 2019

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they're relatively separate lines

lofty pewter
#

@late star 650w is fine

elfin trout
#

hm I wanted to see if orionpsudb had info on amp oem

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guess not

late star
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Ok

elfin trout
#

prob cwt anyways

late star
#

I was thinking if I needed more but 650 is finr

lofty pewter
#

kinda hard to get over 650w mark

late star
#

Is 650 enough or is that cutting it close?

lofty pewter
#

stock 3950x+3090+rest of system can easily run off a good 650w

late star
#

Oh ok

lofty pewter
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probably stock 5950x too, but havent seen detailed power consumption of it yet

late star
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Oh

lofty pewter
#

either way, more then enough for you

late star
#

Only thing is

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The difference between 750 and 650 is nothing..

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So might as well get 750

lofty pewter
#

depending on PSU, that costs you OCP on 12v rail

elfin trout
#

amp should be fine afaik?

late star
#

Oh ok

elfin trout
#

Oh well, I'm lacking a good chunk of information when it comes to the OCP on single rail becoming too loose on higher wattages

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I'm not too sure

late star
#

Is there a big difference between broze and gold certified?

lofty pewter
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will check soon ™️ on that

late star
elfin trout
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Alright Hei good luck

late star
#

Thinking of that onr

elfin trout
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@late star Effiency rating does not equal Quality

late star
#

Ye ik

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But like will it reduce the electricity bill a lot over the years lol

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Is that a fine psu?

elfin trout
#

iirc worse than amp

late star
#

That's a better deal

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But Amazon is a better deal

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Cuz no shipping

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Ima go now

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Cya guys

ebon osprey
#

Cooler master v1200 80 plus platinum, 👍 eh?

trail ridge
#

someone help me with a good case that will fit z370 or 390

vestal elbow
#

anybody know any good deals for 850w 80+ gold

static aspen
#

Had to glue and clamp some metal back in place on a side panel cuz it kinda detached and got lifted

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Anyone know the best way to clean the residual glue without damaging the paint?

halcyon void
#

yall

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i have a question

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im really bad at this hardware stuff so dont make fun of me

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but if you buy a psu does it add to your watts or replace it?

tender root
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@halcyon void its the source of power.

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so, if a collection of parts require 300 watts, you will need to add a 350w (as a minimum) PSU to that collection of parts

halcyon void
#

i see

tender root
#

and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

halcyon void
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I shall

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Thanks naed

tender root
#

you are very welcome :)

halcyon void
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Sorry for bothering

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but what psu would i get for this one if the graphics card im buying needs 350 watts

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this is my pc btw

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Would this Power supply suffice?

tender root
#

nothing to be sorry for.

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@halcyon void you would need a standard ATX powersupply

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the formfactor is right for what you linked. BUT, i would recommend something else instead

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give me a moment

crimson crater
#

Are cougar PSUs any good?

placid sierra
#

probably, but i would reccomend evga, corsair, cooler master, rosewill

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but if ur on a tight budget

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go ahead

halcyon void
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Thank you guys so much

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This fits my budget

tender root
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you are very welcome @halcyon void

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and best of luck with the build :)

halcyon void
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Thanks man

scenic lance
#

good deal?

scenic lance
#

@scenic lance that seems like a very good deal for an EVGA PSU

elfin trout
scenic lance
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lol

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Does the NZXT H510i have good ventilation

elfin trout
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no

scenic lance
#

alright

elfin trout
#

should be pretty clear with a solid panel :P

scenic lance
#

Is that case good for custom water cooling?

ruby otter
#

best itx case?

naive marsh
#

Good 😳

vocal drum
#

Nice itx case lol

naive marsh
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No I was saying is this a good case @vocal drum

vocal drum
#

I know, I dont know if it's a good case, but I know fattyfattyb asked for the best its case and you sent an eatx case

tender root
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@vocal drum you missed the ?-mark that @naive marsh forgot to type

vocal drum
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Yeah, my bad lol

tender root
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:)

vocal drum
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:)

scenic lance
#

what is a cheap mid tower atx case that has good airflow with no glass side

opal compass
#

How long should i go between replacing psu, i have used the same one the last 4 builds

young osprey
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run it into the ground

opal compass
#

push it past the 15 year mark?

gleaming tendon
#

Don’t do that

opal compass
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i lied, its 8 years old with about 2months of that being not used

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had to hunt down the date

gleaming tendon
#

That’s still pretty old

opal compass
#

it is older than the case, just over 6 for that

young osprey
#

if you are using it for all new parts, i would go for a new PSU

devout cave
#

Looking for psu cables for evga psu and asus hero motherboard in colors blue and orange (think NOS energy colors) anyone know a good brand in extensions in those colors? I’ve found blue or orange but not combined on same cable.

lyric quarry
#

theres a website that will custom make it you build it on their website but damn forget the url but it exists

fleet thorn
#

Ive been trying to figure out if a psu with a depth of 200 would fit in the corsair 4000d but I cant really find much information about this does anyone have any idea if this would fit?

young osprey
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@devout cave you will probably have to get them from cablemod for custom colors like that

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@fleet thorn that sounds huuuuge

fleet thorn
#

it is a hefty psu but there is a solid deal on a 80+ plat 1000 watt only downside is its size

scenic lance
#

Get a smaller one then

young osprey
#

do you actually need anything close to 1000w?

fleet thorn
#

semi close ill probably need around 900

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like i know it would fit if i took out the harddrive bay but then where am i gonna put my harddrives

lyric quarry
#

@fleet thorn what case? i was able to fit a 1300 evga psu into a mid tower case, did had to trim a little on the inside and remove HD trays

fleet thorn
#

corsair 4000d airflow

lyric quarry
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prob gonna fit

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i did again have to cut/dremal a little edge off because i couldnt turn the PSU in to fit it in, height and length was fine, just there was this little edge in the way i trimmed off

fleet thorn
#

i honestly dont know if there is anyother place i can mount the harddrive bay

inner scarab
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do you want a white case?

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i could suggest sumn for you

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check this one out

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would go with your fans

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and with a controller, you could use them all

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i can send you a link for a fan hub to use for the cooler master fans

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yeah but its pretty cheap

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like 30$

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can hold up to 6 fans

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with argb

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you can put it on the back of the case

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connect all the fans into it, then connect it with a single cable into an available fan header and rgb header

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you can literally tape it to the back of the case

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you, connect the case fans into it..

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its great for cable management

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and i really doubt your motherboard has 6 fan and rgb headers

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its worth it trust

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im gonna get one too

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no you wont even see it

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unless the back of your case has a tempered glass side panel

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exactly lmao

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you can tape it to the back of your case, and then plug it into the motherboard

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only thing you would see is the wiring

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so basically

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each of the cooler master fans has two cables

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one four pin and one 3 pin

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the 4 pin is power, the 3 pin is rgb

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you would plug both the 4 pin and three pin into one of the fan slots on the fan hug

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hub*

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you would do that for all 6

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then you plug a sata cable into your psu

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no no

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you can put all your case fans in

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the wires are long enough to reach to the back easily

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it wouldnt

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it actually really helps with design

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the case i suggested to you has cooler master fans in it

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you can connect all six to the hub

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kif youre getting an extra three

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and then you can control them all

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through softwarre

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up to you

#

with the stuff you have maybe

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a 5000 series chip and a 3080

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still

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and btw

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you NEED a cpu cooler

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unless you already have one

#

well i mean

#

i guess yeah you can use the stock cooler

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but i would suggest you get a cooler

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but thats completly up to you

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are you expecting to overclock the cpu?

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you cant overclock with the stock cooler

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people will think youre crazy if you get a cooler?

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basically

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if you can control your cpu's temperatures

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you can make the speed of it faster

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thats what it means when they say "boost clock"

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actually no thats not true

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boost clock is the boost theyll go up to

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basically

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if you want to overclock

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you cannot use the stock cooler

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if you have good cooling then no

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but i would get a second opinion on that

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is this your first build?

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its a good rig

#

what are you thinking for peripherals?

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like what monitor

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monitor, mouse, keyboard, mic

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any of that

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thats smart

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your system could support 4k, but you have to have the money for it

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thats alright

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1440p 144hz is an excellent margin to go for

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its what im aiming for

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my build?

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im literally on a laptop lmao

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i can show you the build i was thinking of making tho

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still in progress

#

dammit the mobo went up in pric

#

price*

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i literally might go into america, go to micro center, and buy all my components there

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lmao

#

but duties man

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i might try to though

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cuz like

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if i dont get charged for duties, then i could save like $400

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but if i do, i could lose like $1000 lmfao

#

well anyways, your build looks good

#

im still gonna make the suggestion of getting a cpu cooler, but if youre not overclocking then you should be perfectly fine

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i can help you a little

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lowering the price

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yeah

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tbh you already mostly have the cheaper things

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the only thing you could really change is gpu and cpu

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thing with the stuff you have rn, it gives you opportunity to upgrade to 4k as well

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youve gotta decide on a monitor though

#

i can give you some suggestions in terms of 1440p 144hz based on your budget

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up to you

#

changing to a 3600x might bottleneck the 3070

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if it bottlenecks the 3070?

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it means it restricts it from reaching its maximum potential

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for example

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pairing a 3090 with an i5 9600k will severly bottleneck the 3090 and you wont get nearly as much performance out of it as you would wiht, per say, a 10900k

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the 3070 is great, especially paired with a 5600x, but if you wanna go lower you can go with the 5700xt

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thing is

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the 3070 is such a great deal that its almost not worth going down to a 5700xt

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yeah

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i would go for the 3700x though

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that probably wouldnt bottleneck your 3070

#

but again, its near the price of a 5000 series ryzen 5, which has better performance

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2070 super maybe

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but

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5700xt > 2070 super

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if youre hoping to go for 1440p and 144hz then what you have is a great option

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it leaves room for upgradeability in terms of resolution and refresh rate, and is also much cheaper

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than most other high end components

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you should

#

do you want a suggestion for your monitor?

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3070 and ryzen 5 5600x, the ones you have, would be great

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you want to or dont want to over clock your cpu?

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then get a cpu cooler

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and a good one

golden kestrel
#

PC keeps restarting itself irregularly during games. Prime suspect is the psu but are there any other possible culprits?

young osprey
#

are you overclocking?

golden kestrel
#

No

young osprey
#

just a hard reset, or is there bluescreens or anything like that?>

golden kestrel
#

Ryzen 5 3600 and 2060 Super powered by a evga 700br

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Hard reset

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It just turns off and back on.

#

ask that in #building-and-recc-chat
@halcyon anvil build chat is pretty hot rn and I figured it was psu related so I asked here

inner scarab
#

@golden kestrel only two things i can think of are power supply and cpu or gpu temperatures

golden kestrel
#

Temps are nice and cool

inner scarab
#

but with a 3600 and a 2060 super i doubt its your psu

#

are your drivers updated?

golden kestrel
#

Yep

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Just updated everything yesterday

inner scarab
#

whats the rest of your build look lik

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like*

golden kestrel
#

Also have two separate pcie power cables going to the gpu for an unrelated reason so power delivery should be pretty nice

#

R5 3600
Asus b450m-a
16gb 3200mhz cl16
2060S
Mb311L
700Br

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P2 500gb

inner scarab
#

what do you have for cooler?

golden kestrel
#

Hyper 212

inner scarab
#

do you have a reference to your average temps?

golden kestrel
#

Gpu temps never went over 75 and cpu never went over 70

#

70 would be rare for it

inner scarab
#

idle? or under load?

golden kestrel
#

Load

inner scarab
#

idle would be bad lmao

golden kestrel
#

Ye lmao

inner scarab
#

wait is it a micro atx mobo

golden kestrel
#

Yea

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Why?

inner scarab
#

just wondering

golden kestrel
#

Aight lol

inner scarab
#

yeah um

#

your tdp for all of that would be like 370

#

so i seriously doubt its your psu

#

unless its degraded that much over the years

#

but idk if thats even possible

golden kestrel
#

Yep, hence my confusion. The reason why I suspect the psu tho is I had a different psu powering the same system (besides the gpu, it was a 1070) with no problems for a while.

inner scarab
#

when was the last time you stress tested your cpu?

golden kestrel
#

Psu was bought from evga bstock a few weeks before use

#

About a week ago

inner scarab
#

a week ago?

golden kestrel
#

I'm fairly certain its not the cpu tho because it only seems to happen during games, where the gpu has a bigger power increase then the cpu

#

And its inconsistent too

inner scarab
#

yes but i doubt your gpu suddenly jumps up 300 watts lmfao

golden kestrel
#

True

#

Still jumps more then the cpu lol

inner scarab
#

its possible that the psu is faulty

golden kestrel
#

Still under warranty too

inner scarab
#

is it possible to return the psu and get a different one?

golden kestrel
#

Just a headache to deal with

#

Yes

inner scarab
#

i would suggest that

golden kestrel
#

Alr, thats what I figured

inner scarab
#

if your components arent overheating and your drivers are up to date, your psu is the only thing really left

golden kestrel
#

Ya

inner scarab
#

try going for a higher rating too

#

silver +

golden kestrel
#

Was gonna use a seasonic x650 that I have

inner scarab
#

is that what you were using before?

golden kestrel
#

Yep

inner scarab
#

whats its rating?

golden kestrel
#

Gold

inner scarab
#

oh damn

#

yeah that would probably be best to use

golden kestrel
#

A lil old but its good

#

Yep

inner scarab
#

i would suggest switching them out

golden kestrel
#

Alr, I gotta head out, thanks for the input 🙂

inner scarab
#

no prob man, take care

golden kestrel
#

You too

scenic lance
#

Can someone find me a psu compatible with a 3080? Also it has to be 850-1000 watt

golden kestrel
#

Rmx, rm, whisper m, or d.f. revolution

#

Whatever you can find in stock really

dawn monolith
#

any recommended cases for under 100$ ?

young osprey
#

Lancool2 mesh

severe sentinel
#

lmao wtf is this

#

phanteks eclipse p400a

#

@dawn monolith

simple spoke
#

any case with good airflow under 100$?

dawn matrix
#

phanteks eclipse p400a

severe sentinel
#

^^^^

#

available in white and black

simple spoke
#

available in white and black
@severe sentinel Oh, how many dust filters have?

severe sentinel
#

wdym

#

the front is an "ultra fine" mesh panel that should be efficient at catching dust

#

and the top of the fan has a dust filter

simple spoke
#

What do you think about the Meshify C from Fractal Design?

#

the front is an "ultra fine" mesh panel that should be efficient at catching dust
@severe sentinel oh, that sounds really good

vocal tartan
#

Meshify c looks so nice

#

was going to get it but impulsively bought a td500 mesh to save money on fans

simple spoke
#

was going to get it but impulsively bought a td500 mesh to save money on fans
@vocal tartan Td500 it's a pretty case, i like it

dawn monolith
#

cc

dawn matrix
#

im getting the meshify for my 2k build

#

the dark tg version at least

#

i just really dont like the td500 because it makes the side panel look like acrylic

vocal tartan
#

I'm not a fan of the weirdly shaped front panel on the td500, but I can't return it now and it's not in my budget to get a new case so

#

stuck with a white case with majority black components

rocky quartz
#

its black and white like a chess board

thorny bramble
#

is the be quiet Pure base 500 DX a good case?

wintry apex
#

i need a case for my friend who is a first time builder and he is wants a Matx case and i need on for at most 60 dollars that is decent

ornate dagger
#

has anyone vertical mountd in a p400a?

ebon meteor
#

hey how do I determine how much watts I need for a power supply?

scenic lance
#

what is your build

ebon meteor
#

rn I have a 500 watt 80 plus bronze psu

#

and I already upgraded my cpu to i9 9900k which is a power house and gpu rn is a gtx 970

#

I plan on upgrading my gpu to a 2070 super or 3070

#

and ram corsair vengence 16 gb with

#

NZXT kraken x53 aio

scenic lance
#

you will want to go 750

untold ruin
#

Which power supply is the go to right now as far as companies go? Mine is starting to make a ticking sound under load and sometimes just idling. Specs below:

Ryzen 5 3600
5600XT THICC
16GB Crucial Ballistix RAM
3 RGB Fans(don't know if that matters)
Win.10
500GB SSD
1TB HDD

chrome iris
scenic lance
#

you need prob a 650

chrome iris
#

@scenic lance @ebon meteor that can run off a 600w or even 550w. But, do try to go 600w or 650w.

scenic lance
#

you could get away with a 550

#

or 500

chrome iris
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@scenic lance a 5600 XT can technically run off a 450w but i like to goo 500w+

scenic lance
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yea thats why i said 650 first

untold ruin
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I currently have a 600w in it right now. Probably should've said that

scenic lance
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ok then u should be good

chrome iris
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which model 600w

scenic lance
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but if its making sounds or something

untold ruin
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Which is why I'm confused as to why its making a ticking sound

chrome iris
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which model 600w
@untold ruin

untold ruin
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Thermaltake junk lol

scenic lance
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you can switch it out if you have warranty and if not you can get another one

chrome iris
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TR2?

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Smart?

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which model?!

untold ruin
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Tr2

chrome iris
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ew

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ew

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definitely upgrade

untold ruin
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I know, I know

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:(

chrome iris
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your tr2 is a ticking time bomb

ebon meteor
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oh so a 650w would be enough for my build? @chrome iris

scenic lance
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yea

untold ruin
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I'll run to best buy and pick a corsair PSU tomorrow

scenic lance
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yes

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your tr2 will blow up

untold ruin
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Think I can one more session out of it? Its been in use for about a week

chrome iris
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oh so a 650w would be enough for my build? @chrome iris
@ebon meteor a 550w would be good enough, but I'd try to go over for some headroom.
600-650w is a good point

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I'll run to best buy and pick a corsair PSU tomorrow
@untold ruin dont just pick and corsair PSU. brands make some good, some bad models, pick a good one

ebon osprey
chrome iris
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ye

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get this instead

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@ebon osprey

untold ruin
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@Yams I plan on going for gold certified. I always used Corsair or EVGA power supplies and never had issues. Do you think I can get one more gaming session out of the TR2?

chrome iris
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one more gaming session lol

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i mean, depends on how long the gaming session is

untold ruin
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Probably 4-6 hours

chrome iris
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i guess

tender root
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just dont complain if something goes wrong

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it is your choice, and your reponsibility

untold ruin
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I wouldn't complain? I know the risks.

daring marsh
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Lian li lancool 2 mesh rgb vs td500 mesh?

chrome iris
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whichever you like better @daring marsh

daring marsh
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Alright

deep loom
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Anyone using Fractal Design S2 or R7 (Compact)?

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How do you like it?

dark badger
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Hey, could anyone recommend a safe wattage for running a 5600x with a 3070? (Please no @)

deep loom
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I'd throw your list in PCPP and add 20-30%

dark badger
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👌

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Thanks lol

deep loom
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Sure thing. Nvidia recommended a 650W PSU. Seems to be about right.

heady glade
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Would a 1660 to and r5 2600 be fine with a 500w

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Ti

deep loom
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I'd throw your list in PCPP and add 20-30%
@heady glade

heady glade
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Ok then it should be good

chrome iris
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yes, it should be good

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could even run off a 450w if you wanted it to

last depot
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im gonna redo cooling setup when my waterblock comes in but what color cables would look good on this, my lighting so far is blue/green and red circling

jagged ibex
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is it bad I have an 850watt 80+gold psu when I have a setup that roughly uses 600 to 650 watts? :/

elfin trout
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No

jagged ibex
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:/

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well not bad, but is it overkill

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:/

elfin trout
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It's overkill, but not bad.

jagged ibex
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alright

bleak wave
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i only have a 500 watt supply man, lend me some watts 😢