#cases-psu-and-cooling

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toxic dome
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<150

patent idol
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speaking of cooler master

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the q300p

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is this case good enough for air flow??

fresh folio
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Is the front mesh? ( I canโ€™t tell )

patent idol
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its a plastic cover

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vent is in the bottom

fresh folio
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Then no

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Try find something that has mesh on the front

patent idol
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theres plenty

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but i want a compact case with handles

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so i can carry it around easily

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theres full tower cases with handles

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but i dont want that big of a case

fresh folio
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Hmm

snow zodiac
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Why do you want to carry it around

patent idol
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so i can carry it and my vr software and move it to my grandma/brothers house

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move from room to living room

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be less of a hassle

toxic dome
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is this case good enough for air flow??
@patent idol personally hate that

patent idol
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good to know

toxic dome
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not good

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fior the price

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lol also no directr airflow

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trash case tbh

toxic dome
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and acrylic at $77

patent idol
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just wanted the final nail in the coffin

fresh folio
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Honestly idk

patent idol
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hm too much

toxic dome
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mans said he wants something to carry but you send him an eatx case for like 2.5 times the money

snow zodiac
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Way too much

patent idol
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and the acrylic doesnt have handles

toxic dome
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you aint carrying that for 5 feet

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lmfao

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just go for a mitx build @patent idol

patent idol
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mitx isnt suited for what i want

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micro has everything i need

toxic dome
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want something easy to carry node 202, want better airflow cougar qbx or nr200

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why?

patent idol
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i have multiple hard drives and want enough power to oc a little bit

toxic dome
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you can oc in sff cases lol

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like nr200

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unless a beefy air cooler

patent idol
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i have an old huge fan cooler i do want to keep

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keeps my current cpu at 33 c and ive had it for 3 years

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but if nothing comes to mind, the panzer max might be the case ill get

toxic dome
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lol nmthen

patent idol
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its a big boy, but better than nothing

toxic dome
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true

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what cooler

patent idol
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ARCTIC Freezer 33 eSports ONE

toxic dome
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i see

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also panzer x hello overpiced tf

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just make custom handles on like a p360a

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or smthng

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why spend that much because it has handle

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s

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@patent idol

patent idol
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i just want handles

snow zodiac
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Not worth it

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Moving it without handles isnโ€™t even a big hassle tbh

patent idol
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saftey when im carrying expensive hardware i cant afford to replace

snow zodiac
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I mean go for it I guess

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But Iโ€™d recommend just getting a good case that fits your parts

toxic dome
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get a case and drill some old handbag handles on it if you really want it

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lmfao

snow zodiac
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Seriously

toxic dome
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ong no cap

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like tf is 140 for a sht case just because it has handles????

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just get a p360a or smthing and do what i say

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boom

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handbag case ๐Ÿ˜Ž

snow zodiac
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Or put the pc in a bag when moving it

toxic dome
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yeah lol

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no need for handles

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also who cares around a big ass case

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to move across the room?

patent idol
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and put in car, drive 30 miles, dirt road, carry up porch and move around

snow zodiac
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Well handles in car arenโ€™t going to help

patent idol
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this has been great help

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im gonna head off

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๐Ÿ˜ถ

toxic dome
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nice

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stupid decisions ppl

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you want handles to walk to your car tf

snow zodiac
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Lmao

vocal tree
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I want drone frame to transport my pc

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fly pc to oil rig

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play game on oil rig

toxic dome
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i want ti make my car a pc

vocal tree
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easy

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steal police car and get gaming laptop

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boom

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pc car

patent idol
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after looking

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decided on this

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BX6-MS6

low meteor
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I'm looking for an ATX case with 280mm top rad support, but most of the cases I look at don't specify. Anyone have suggestions?

winter trout
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Lancool II mesh can support a 140x280mm rad from what im reading

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on the manual i have here

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wait

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no thats side lemme read a bit

low meteor
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lmao ok, thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

winter trout
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yep only 120x240 top

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mb almost screwed up :/

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just make sure you read the downloadable manual while on your search

queen elbow
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is 380w enough for an rx 570 and ryzen 3 2200g

fresh folio
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would go for 450

vocal tree
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yes me too

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I imagine they have a 380w?

queen elbow
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hey its u guys again lol

junior harbor
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pspspspspspsp

open ridge
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any good atx case less than 100 with a bunch of fan slots and cable management

rich hazel
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Probably

snow zodiac
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The p400a is good

rich hazel
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What is the best rgb white case under 100 bucks

snow zodiac
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No idea, cause rgb is overrated and overused

rich hazel
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Well not in my opinion lol

snow zodiac
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Fair enough

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I think one of the cheaper phanteks cases has an rgb variant

boreal needle
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Could you not just get a white case and buy a bunch of RGBs? ^^

rich hazel
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Wait a sec โ€œrgbโ€ cases are just cases that have stock rgb fans right

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Or rgb strips

snow zodiac
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Not sure for all, but for the ones Iโ€™ve seen yeah

rich hazel
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Ok

boreal needle
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if that's too expensive but you're looking for a disco ball in it, good luck! ^^

tender root
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@limpid peak @snow spoke

snow spoke
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whats up

tender root
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its a bit more quiet here to talk

limpid peak
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ya... it is but that case looks perfect

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it will showcase my 2080 ti trio nicely too

snow spoke
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yeah but naed said its a pain to build in

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id say that naed is a trusted source in this server

limpid peak
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hrmm....

tender root
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well

limpid peak
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yaaa.. Naed seems the most level headed too ๐Ÿ™‚

tender root
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its not that the its a "pain" as such

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its that its a cheap quality of a case

limpid peak
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hrmmmm... but its cute!!!

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and cute is REALLY hard to find

tender root
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but, that picture gives me an idea about where you want to go (design wise)

limpid peak
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yup!

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that it does

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you would not believe how many people want to see my case and lighting lol so I really have to make it stand out

snow spoke
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ohh nice

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ill see if i can find something more "reliable"

limpid peak
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there are sooo many cases I have honestly have no idea where to even begin

tender root
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hm, try and have a look at Corsair

limpid peak
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I just ran into this

snow zodiac
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Lmao pink

limpid peak
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ohh its a micro nm

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I need a mid no?

snow zodiac
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Probably

snow spoke
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yeah, i thought you were building with an atx mobo, right?

rich hazel
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Iโ€™m getting that one lol

snow zodiac
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Ngl the pink doesnโ€™t look good with those cases

rich hazel
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It looks rlly good in build pics

limpid peak
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ya thats what I was thinking sling

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thats what I was like umm hrmm

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I like the design though its so future looking

snow spoke
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oh and also how much will you be willing to spend on a case?

limpid peak
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no more than 150

snow spoke
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oh ok

limpid peak
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I can't see sinking more for a case

snow spoke
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have you looked into lian-li cases?

limpid peak
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I prefere 60-80 range but

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I will spend extra for design

snow spoke
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a white one with rgb fans look great based on pictures i've seen

tender root
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re: Apevia Aura case: It looks like a sealed box. Meaning, it will cook the parts

limpid peak
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hrmm

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I can't let that happen.. my time with AMD = over heating on me every other day

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that is generally why I switched to intel

snow zodiac
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Ew

tender root
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back then yes

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and now you are going back to amd :)

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so lets prevent you from doing a closed box :)

limpid peak
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I mean I bought 2... raedon 580 xt gpu's they died on me within a month time

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that is why I now have a 2080 ti I couldn't wait for the 3080's

tender root
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sidenote: that sucks, but that just sounds like bad luck.

limpid peak
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so why do people have those box cases I see so often

tender root
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@limpid peak elaborate please ?

snow zodiac
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Ngl the 2080 ti is kinda a ripoff

tender root
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it was the only consumer card with 11gig of vram back in the day @snow zodiac

snow spoke
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from when it was released, i don't think so @snow zodiac

tender root
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ah, those :)

snow zodiac
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Price to performance not worth it

limpid peak
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I mean I got mine for 1.3k... and I can resell it right now for 1.8k

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roughly

tender root
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that is a choice of space Himeko :)

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@snow zodiac please remember that the MSRP of the 2080TI is actually 1000

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unless you get very very lucky you wont be selling for that @limpid peak

limpid peak
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ya I am not expecting it.. I am waiting for the 24 gig card I will get one in june if they stable out

tender root
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re: small boxes:

limpid peak
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and sell this for whatever I get.. I had to get something reliable and this card does not over heat

tender root
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i have one of those next to me right now

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(well, next to me in the shelf about a meter away)

snow spoke
limpid peak
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ahhh ya I want a regullar case

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I don't like the front design

tender root
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aye aye, i have no doubt about that :)

limpid peak
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the first thing I thought about though when I seen that case... is I have.. VR.... Matrix!!!.. wait... can I learn kongfu? lol

tender root
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design suggestion. NOT model suggestion on that last one

limpid peak
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that.. is ok not the best but not bad

tender root
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anything you actually like about it?

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(remember, asking to dial in the concept here)

limpid peak
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I do like how the top has a glass panel

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the overall I like it I just don't care for the front

tender root
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what about the width of it?

limpid peak
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ohh I don't like that

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I'm a 4'11 girl and I need to be able to carry my computer

tender root
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:)

snow spoke
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i have a cousin just like that lmao

limpid peak
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its.. a very interesting design though

tender root
snow spoke
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would she benefit from a case that already has an icue rgb controller?

limpid peak
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that is better but its bland.

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I like the sleekness though

tender root
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gah!

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wrong link

limpid peak
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that is better

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that is much much better

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I'll mark that one as a deffy maybe.. I want to see if there is a cheaper option but ya that is a deffinite write it down

tender root
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@snow spoke perhaps? i am not really searching based on that. the light/fans can always be fixed later if nothing else :)

limpid peak
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I do like that one a lot

snow spoke
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yeah, true

limpid peak
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is a major fan of tempered glass cases

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

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that is cute

snow spoke
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it even comes with a case handle for ppl who would like to carry it:D

tender root
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Himeko you have just seen the "darling" of MR1111

snow spoke
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oh boy

limpid peak
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I want that

tender root
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haha :D

limpid peak
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that is really sharp and the lighting is AMAZING

limpid peak
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that is what I want yup sold

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85 too not bad

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woohoo ty ty ๐Ÿ™‚

tender root
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you are very welcome @limpid peak :)

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and thank you @snow spoke for helping prod the mind of Himeko :)

snow spoke
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waiting to see the end result of the build sometime soon

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make sure to tag us if you ever finish @limpid peak

limpid peak
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Oh for sure!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

static aspen
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Hey is the evga GA 850w gold a good model psu?

limpid peak
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I will be posting pics all over ๐Ÿ™‚

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this thing is going to be a beauty

snow spoke
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fsfs

tender root
limpid peak
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Thank you soooo much ๐Ÿ™‚

snow spoke
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youre welcome

tender root
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at least when you post here :)

limpid peak
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sorry I can be a bit picky with designs but.. for good reason!

tender root
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nothing to be sorry about

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its the thing you will be watching/seeing the most

snow spoke
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now im off to start my geometry hw, which i havent started and i have geometry next

limpid peak
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hey if I am sinking in over 3-4 grand on a pc... it better look how I want it to look dangit lol

static aspen
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True

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All the lights

snow spoke
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Hey is the evga GA 850w gold a good model psu?
@static aspen have you checked out the psu tier list?

limpid peak
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its going to be pretty

static aspen
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No where do I find that@snow spoke

snow spoke
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its pinned

static aspen
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I will check that out

snow zodiac
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hey if I am sinking in over 3-4 grand on a pc... it better look how I want it to look dangit lol
Geez are you buying a 3090 and a 5950x?

limpid peak
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ok Naed I'll get with you in 2 days to finish this pc ๐Ÿ™‚ in build-chat :)... and yes eventually next year I am upgrading to the 24 gig card

tender root
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aye aye :)

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btw @limpid peak before you run

limpid peak
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sure?

tender root
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that the the reason you should wait

limpid peak
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Whoa

tender root
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currently the zen3 chips look to be 15-20% faster than the zen2 chips

limpid peak
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to be honest I wish I didn't get my 2080 but I needed a good card fast cause I had no pc

tender root
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keep in mind.

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that is based on AMD supplied numbers

static aspen
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@snow spoke if its not in there should i assume its not a good consideration?

limpid peak
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I just hope the price is right for those processors Naed

tender root
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but, its enough of a uplift that the wait is imo worth it

limpid peak
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but ya deffy worth 2 day wait

tender root
static aspen
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nvm i found it just in the low priority units

tender root
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@static aspen how much is that psu listed for?

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@limpid peak aye :) and i will see you in a couple of days then :)

limpid peak
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yup yups ๐Ÿ™‚

static aspen
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um so its 139 and then a 20 dollar mail in rebate so 119 since i would do the rebate

tender root
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the AMP tops out at 750w

tender root
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DF goes up further

static aspen
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also for consideration how are the cables amazon isnt showing them

snow spoke
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mr1111 recommended me the psu i linked for a list of mine

tender root
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but for 99.9999999999% of machines, the 750 AMP is plenty

static aspen
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i should be fine with 750 i was looking at 850 for future proofing but 750 would be fine

tender root
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aye. DF is very good too @snow spoke

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all the info and all the pictures :)

static aspen
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ty i checked the newegg that has shipping but more pics nice flat cables it looks like

snow zodiac
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I have a Corsair rm 850

tender root
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its a lovely psu to work with

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and the 10year warranty does not hurt

static aspen
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i was looking at the rmx 850 but saw the evga ga was cheaper atm

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@tender root appreciate the link to that some money saved never hurts

tender root
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you are very welcome :)

static aspen
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part of the reduced cost would also come from the less number of ports

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but also has enough cuz most typically arent always filled

tender root
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a fair part of the price is brand related

static aspen
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that is true

tender root
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Phantek is NOT as known as Corsair fx :)

static aspen
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at least not for their psus

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more for their cases if anything

tender root
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and even on that

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they are not as known

static aspen
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yeah for me its a surprise seeing I know a fair amount of people with their cases

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and it has a 10 year warranty to thats nice

willow marsh
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What is a case that looks clean and nice (in white) but has good airflow (and isnt marked up like the lian-li o11 dynamic (looks nice but marked up to 175 rn)).

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cause rn i have H500I and the airflow is bad ^

radiant ginkgo
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Guys any 3 slot capable case recommendations

exotic temple
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Anyone got any cheap ATX case recommendations?

vocal tartan
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Cougar generally has decent cheap cases

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case budget?

exotic temple
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About $200 if I have to bug Iโ€™d like to spend more like $100

vocal tartan
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usd?

exotic temple
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Yes

vocal tartan
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well that's a big budget for a case i was expecting you to say $50 lol

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i'll list some off in a second

exotic temple
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Thanks

vocal tartan
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Corsair 4000D airflow ($80 in black or white) TD500 Mesh ($100 in black or white, 3 preinstalled rgb fans) Phanteks p400a is like 90 and has 3 preinstalled rgb fans

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meshify c can usually be found for cheapish

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like 70-90 but it's a little overrated imo

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corsair icue 220t is like $100 and has 3 rgb fans

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there is a lot of options

exotic temple
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I appreciate it

vocal tartan
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np

snow zodiac
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Iโ€™d recommend the phanteks

mellow dock
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ive heard of gamemax

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i didn't know they made psu's

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i thought they only made cases

random ruin
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it seems kind question able

wide glade
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is this a good case for the price after rebate

honest spindle
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is the enthoo pro case any good

chrome iris
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@wide glade yeah if you like the looks. Airlfow looks really bad though

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@patent idol sketchy. No real reviews on it. Stay away frfom it

snow zodiac
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Would 750w be enough for a 5800x and a 6800xt, or would 850 be better?

tender root
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@snow zodiac 750w is enough

snow zodiac
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Thanks

toxic dome
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decided on this
@patent idol wtf

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never consider a gamemax psu

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lol

forest silo
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Hi I am new to building PCs, I noticed that EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA is on sale, how is it in comparison to some other 750s? Right now I am looking at Corsair RM 850w, but it's a bit pricier

random ruin
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850w is problem more then you need

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600w

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works for most

forest silo
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I see, I figured 850 was overkill, so I was willing to scale back to 750. Is 600w still enough for the new Ryzen 9 and 6900/6800xt?

random ruin
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ok wait a few days for the new ryzen 5000

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it comes out in two days

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600w to 650w is probly good

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also use pcpart picker will help with power consumption

forest silo
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Cool, I'll do that then. Unrelated question, but hard is it generally to get these new CPUs? Is it near impossible like Nvidia's GPUs?

random ruin
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it maybe

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it depends how they do it

forest silo
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Ya, I'll use pcpartpicker, but doesn't have the new AMD stuff so I wasn't entirely sure with power consumption

random ruin
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its not out yet

forest silo
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I know, which was why I was asking about the PSUs

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Appreciate the info, thank you!

random ruin
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np

wide glade
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lmao i just need a good case with decent airflow for under 60$ any recommendations?
just need to have

  1. 325mm+ plus gpu clearance (cause i have long boi gpu)
  2. at least 2 3.5 bay
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good airfolw is actually pretty important cause i have a 300w gpu rn

elfin trout
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MX330-g air might be good.

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at 55$ with 3 included fans

agile ice
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yo i need a 600-700 dollar prebult pc

random ruin
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Amazon

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Or just google

wide glade
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i build mine for 300$ leaving me without a budget for case

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lmao

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after like 6 months

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its too dusty that i have to buy a case

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lmao

random ruin
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They make them for a reason

wide glade
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but its honestly fine cause its all fine dust when i can jsut clean off every like 2 months

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also open air is better for my gpu cause of the blow/flow through design

random ruin
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It's also to protect you delicate mother board

wide glade
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ehhh

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its 30$

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so not a big deal is it breaks

random ruin
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That's an oof

wide glade
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and also the card i use outputs ALOT of heat lmao

random ruin
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That's why fans exsit

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Is it just chilling on a table

wide glade
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yes

random ruin
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That's why

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Air flow

wide glade
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well no since its flow/blow through i have a 140mm sucking the hot air out on the other end

random ruin
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What is it flat

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Or at an angle

wide glade
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flat

random ruin
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Also how many sides are on the table

wide glade
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sides?

random ruin
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Is the top or bottom on the table

wide glade
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its on top of the table

random ruin
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So the bottom of the gpu is on the table

wide glade
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no i don't havve my phone rn but the mobo is on top of the table

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so its like a mining rig or testbench kinda

random ruin
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Does the card have air flow under it and on top

wide glade
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oh wait i can't upload picture

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but yes it flows from right to left

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so 2 90 mm on my desk blowing air towards teh side of gpu with fans and then out the other way with the help of a 140mm

random ruin
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Post it in pc pics

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Or build pics

wide glade
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@random ruin send

random ruin
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Ok

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So what direction is the cpu fan going

wide glade
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out the door

random ruin
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And what is the gpu and what do you use it for

wide glade
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r9 fury

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as a heater

karmic gorge
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hi

random ruin
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I see

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Now that's money saved

wide glade
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Yes

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So when it's cold or smth I can just let it mine crypto and pay for my electricity bill

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Or while gaming

random ruin
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Hm

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I herd they work better in box's tho

wide glade
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Depends

rigid harbor
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how's the corsair 465x case? I heard it comes with 3 LL120 fans and theyre like $30 each and that sounds like a steal

wide glade
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If you can get more static pressure

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Tbh if it's a cheap pc why even by a case

random ruin
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Because it decrease the chance of any of those parts breaking

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@rigid harbor it depends do you know what your putting with it

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Like gpu cpu

wide glade
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But like even tho when the parts came out it's was expensive

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Now it's cheap asf

rigid harbor
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3600x and 3070 FE

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@random ruin

random ruin
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Do you have a pcpp list

rigid harbor
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yeah

wide glade
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Lmao I'ma wait for 6800xt and ryzen 5 5th gen

rigid harbor
random ruin
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I think the case is good

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But I don't think you need to water cool it

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3600x is not worth the money 3600

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Is pretty much the same

rigid harbor
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i was planning on overclocking it though, would air cooling be just as good for thermals? I also have the money to spend on the aio too lol

elfin trout
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Yes

random ruin
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Water cooling has risks

rigid harbor
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also i like the rgb lol

random ruin
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Very high risk

elfin trout
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oh btw

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Vengeance rgb blocks top radiator on a good amount of cases

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I'd suggest against that ram

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oh wait already purchased...

rigid harbor
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i was planning on putting rad in front not top

elfin trout
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Welp

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I don't think you'll have a good time mounting front rad in that case

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well maybe

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oh well

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I'd suggest like a NH-D15s and call it a day

wide glade
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i brought a cheap chinese cooler for 17$

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and called it a day

elfin trout
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Gammaxx400 at 25$ is actually great for the price

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grab that and call it a day

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might as well

wide glade
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lmao yeah

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but gotta save that 8$ lmao

bright valley
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coolermaster tower cooler thing is a good one

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for the price

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h120 i guess

#

?

wide glade
#

the total cost of my pc was actually 249$ so i wasted the rest on more storage

random ruin
#

Bro you got to treat your. Things with respect

wide glade
#

and not getting a case

bright valley
#

mine $300

#

lol

#

use old pc case

wide glade
#

lol

elfin trout
#

@wide glade not a joke, gammaxx 400 is a great cooler.

wide glade
#

ik it is

#

i throught about it when picking cooler

#

Bro you got to treat your. Things with respect
@random ruin i do take care of them tho atleast i clean them every 2 months and the cooling is honestly enough for a 65w chip (cooler rated for 150w i think or 135w)

#

it was originally meant for a i7 6700k but the dude that was going to swap with me changed his mind last moment

#

so now im stuck with the i3-9100f chip that i flashed the bios with

river stag
#

wish i knew how to cable manage

#

so now im stuck with the i3-9100f chip that i flashed the bios with
even i hv that

wide glade
#

ehh ig here's the spec of my 300$ pc

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10 tb storage

#

800w 80+ gold psu Apevia

#

r9 fury

#

ripjaw V 3600 mhz 16gb (2x8)

#

i3-9100f

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z370 pro mobo

#

so basically not bad

#

but not good

river stag
#

300$?

#

dont u think 10 tb overkill?

#

and no way thats 300$

#

and i3 9100f needs discreet gpu

#

to run

#

right?

tender root
#

@river stag R9 Fury IS a gpu

river stag
#

oh i didnt see that

tender root
#

its 5 years old by now, but its a gpu :)

#

(i should know, i have one in this rig right here)

neat ferry
#

Whatโ€™s some of the best cases you guys recommend

snow zodiac
#

Price?

river stag
#

if u dont wanna go thru the hassle of putting in fans and stuff

#

firdt thing

snow zodiac
#

Putting in fans isnโ€™t a hassle

river stag
#

if they hv rgb

#

too many wires overwhelm ppl

snow zodiac
#

Itโ€™s like 2 or 3

#

Not that bad

river stag
#

yea true

#

but some ppl dont know

snow zodiac
#

Plus, just donโ€™t get rgb

wide glade
#

i over clock my r9 to 1119 and 1178 max

weary pine
#

Ok my nzxt h510 power button is blinking on and off

#

Never done that before

wide glade
#

and yes way the ram was for 68$ cpu+ mobo 100$ r9 90$ i got 8tb for free and brought a 2tb new for 30$ and the psu was 20$ and cooler 15

#

and don't worry i stress tested for about 8 hours and psu had no problem with it (mining)

#

its 5 years old by now, but its a gpu :)
@tender root still decent and runs fine

muted wyvern
#

would ryzen gen 3 be as bad as the nvidia gpu releases?

#

zen*

drowsy oracle
#

Probably not

muted wyvern
#

are people lining up at local MC stores? hopeful to get one, I'll try to come early lol

snow zodiac
#

Itโ€™ll sell out in 5 minutes instead of 10 seconds

muted wyvern
#

lol

drowsy oracle
#

Lol

wide glade
#

lol

#

why not wait a month or 2

drowsy oracle
#

Coz I'm literally dying of not having a pc :(

#

I wanna cry

snow zodiac
#

Same

#

4 months is a long time

#

2 more would be suffrage and disparity

wide glade
#

lmao

#

just buidl a cheap one like i did

#

i made a cheap one cause so i can wait till 6800xt is out and zen 3

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the parts im going to keep i got new parts like hdd psu cpu cooler and ram

snow zodiac
#

Too late now

#

Weโ€™re weeks away

wide glade
#

months for me

snow zodiac
#

Zen 3 is tomorrow and 6000 is only a few weeks away

static aspen
#

4000d airflow for 69 instead of 79 worth it?

languid ether
#

it will be almost as powerful as nvidia rtx 3080

#

says the ceo of ati

ebon osprey
#

anyone has a good recommendation for psu for rtx 3080 and ryzen 5900x/5950x? is seasonic focus gx-850w good enough?

wide glade
#

Yeah but have to wait for stable supply

final berry
#

Corsair 1600 w PSU?

static aspen
#

Does anyone know of a video or review for the corsair 4000x for thermals?

elfin trout
#

@static aspen I think GN tested it in their 4000d video

static aspen
#

they did the 4000d

#

but that has only 2 fans plus I was looking to see how the rgb fans in the x performed

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found one with Hardware Canucks

elfin trout
#

ah yea they didn't do 4000x temp testing

static aspen
#

mind if I dm you idk how strict the owning images thing here is

elfin trout
#

I don't think that's that strict xD

#

sure if you want to

static aspen
#

ahh makes sense

scenic lance
#

Does anyone know where I can get the Ryzen 9 5900 tmmr? Like online

elfin trout
#

yes

#

it's an amazing case

scenic lance
#

for like a $130ish budget. What would be the best psu that i could get? It has to be atx

surreal magnet
#

up to you

#

psu modularity is for convenience,

#

nope

#

what GPU are you thinking of getting

#

@scenic lance

#

come baaaaack

#

nice

#

so the psu and ssd are mediocre

#

and are you getting the 5600x?

#

as long as its bronze and up, then efficiency doesnt matter

#

not really

#

theres more to psus than efficiency ratings

#

so the other issue is that we dont know the sustained and peak power consumption of the 6800

#

so its hard to pick a psu

#

when you dont know what psu the gpu needs

#

those are marketing terms from amd, correct?

#

until someone actually has the card in their hands and does proper testing, i never believe anything amd or nvidia say

#

so thats what its at now

#

the 3070, although hard to get, is only 500

#

so it just depends on how the 6800 performs in comparison

snow zodiac
#

We literally donโ€™t know either of those for sure

tender root
#

@scenic lance could you tone it down on the make believe fairy tail dreams?

#

6800 is not out yet

snow zodiac
#

We have no idea if they actually have stock

tender root
#

so, "declaring that it is better" = making things up

snow zodiac
#

And need to see tests

tender root
#

"the 6800 is quite better than the 3070 from what i've seen"

snow zodiac
#

You said quite better

tender root
#

your words

snow zodiac
#

Even worse

tender root
#

then say it like you actually meant it

#

not trying to jump on you @scenic lance

#

but the problem is that IF your comment stands unchallenged, someone else here is going to parrot it back

surreal magnet
#

in some categories like (stock, performance, power per watt,) it is doing better compared to what nvidia had
@scenic lance source?

tender root
#

and "that" is a problem

surreal magnet
#

cuz stock rn is NIL

#

and there are no reviews

#

so

tender root
#

and as Sassy said. where is the source?

#

just send me a dm.

#

on behalf of @scenic lance

#

that is the standard/logical message

#

there are no actual numbers in that

#

its AMD's partner manager doing their job in trying to control the narrative

inland pond
#

td 500 mesh or the lian li lancool 2

surreal magnet
#

whichever you like the look of more

uncut stump
#

is the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L mATX good?

#

like is airflow okay clearance size

surreal magnet
#

for low heat output components its fine

#

like 3400g

#

i would put a 1660 super in there

#

airflow sucks tho

#

in a bad way

uncut stump
surreal magnet
#

it does

#

more metal than holes

#

plus the crappy filters

uncut stump
#

do you have a better cheap matx case in mind?

surreal magnet
#

yes, of course

uncut stump
#

what would it be?

surreal magnet
#

i will go get links

full inlet
#

Oh goodie

uncut stump
#

oh the mb311l

surreal magnet
uncut stump
#

mb311l comes with 2 front fans right?

surreal magnet
uncut stump
#

like are they 140?

surreal magnet
#

these all come with fans

uncut stump
#

the mb311l looks and probably is good right?

full inlet
#

Thereโ€™s better diypc ones

uncut stump
#

sadly its a bit too expensive for me in Canada

#

tho i the mb600l

#

found*

#

wait shiz its atx

harsh bridge
#

any be quiet! owners?

uncut stump
#

theres the q300l TUF

tender root
#

@harsh bridge ask away?

uncut stump
#

i had be quiet! fans once

#

they were not quiet

#

nor did they work after a month

harsh bridge
#

how easy are they to build/work in?

random ruin
#

is the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L mATX good?
@uncut stump it's good for it's price

#

I have one and it does it's job

dark solar
#

I need a new case but I am so conflicted on what to get

worldly dust
#

is there a big budget?

#

I'll just get this out the way most people will recommend the p400a

dark solar
#

I need on that can be used for good water cooling, and I'm reusing my parts I already have, a 360 and 280 are the rads I already have and I am gonna move them to my new build

#

My define r5 has a problem with the button and I feel like I need something more with airflow for the cooling

#

But the p400a might be good option

#

Idk. I just want something that's nice looking and can water cool easy

scenic lance
#

does anyone know a good case that supports DVD

surreal magnet
#

good as in quality or good as in cheap

scenic lance
#

good airflow

surreal magnet
#

mATX

scenic lance
#

can i fit 2 140mm fans in the front in that case or not

scenic lance
#

@scenic lance not that case get a nr600 instead lol
@toxic dome does it have good airflow and have a DVD

gray oak
#

what would be the best suggestion for an all black case nowadays, full size atx

#

i was considering the razer tomahawk, but i feel like that would be ill advised

scenic lance
#

im not sure if it would work but what if i just use a normal case with no DVD shroud/place to hold the dvd player in. And just plug in all the cables for the dvd player and put it in my case and burn a dvd than pull all cables out of the dvd and take the dvd player out again

#

like placing the dvd player loose on the psu shroud

#

its really ghetto but im not sure if it would work

gray oak
#

i mean, what are you looking to use the build for?

scenic lance
#

family computer i will be using the dvd to sometimes put new songs on a dvd for in the car when we drive to a different country and also as gaming pc

#

we only put new songs on the dvd every few years

worldly dust
#

heres a full tower

#

could put like 2 computers in there lol

gray oak
#

any reason that you can't go full tower?

scenic lance
#

nope

worldly dust
#

nope

#

better airflow just by size

gray oak
#

then yeah, go for a full for airflow, drive mount, and just upgradability

worldly dust
#

definately function over form

gray oak
#

yo someone i know has one of those and uses it like a server bc of the amount of airflow

worldly dust
#

yeah they are great other than looks

#

real handles removable motherboard tray two levels

gray oak
#

exactly, function over form

worldly dust
#

and most of mine face backwards so i can reach the i/o panels lol

static aspen
#

Form and function ๐Ÿคž

gray oak
#

facts

worldly dust
#

it is a nice aesthetic cube shape

static aspen
#

Could always stack a printer on top of that case

#

Make use of vertical space

worldly dust
#

actually funny you mention that because they actually stack on top of each other!!! its indented on the bottom and makes a air gap for the top fan lol

gray oak
#

that is actually really cool

main marlin
#

Im looking for a case with good airflow and a sleek design, any suggestions?

static aspen
#

Price?

main marlin
#

no real budget but obviously nothing crazy

worldly dust
#

like yesterday linus made a video on LTT where they picked the top rated case on new egg and they used mine lol

static aspen
#

I saw that they have a giveaway for it

worldly dust
#

p400a is always a solid option

static aspen
#

4000d airflow

gray oak
#

nice, and same as O.o, a full black, no budget

worldly dust
#

yeah I signed up for it so i could have another one

static aspen
#

I couldn't sign up for it

#

Ill have to try on my laptop

main marlin
#

thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look at them

#

Do you know if there's space to fit a 360 rad on the top of the 4000d?

static aspen
#

No

#

I'll check but I think max is 240 on top

gray oak
#

damn that's a nice case

main marlin
#

damn I think the 4000d could be the best case out rn if there was 360 rad on the top

static aspen
#

@main marlin 280 for top rad

elfin trout
#

TD500 mesh

static aspen
#

^

elfin trout
#

it has 360 top rad :D

main marlin
#

yeah thanks I just saw the dimensions for it GeneRic

elfin trout
#

Personally TD500 mesh is best option for most consumer builds >:D

main marlin
#

will check out the it out ๐Ÿ‘

static aspen
#

Ty for that o was trying to find the td500 in chat here to confirm

elfin trout
#

Gamers nexus did a review

#

it did well

#

what

#

how is 280>360

#

:P

main marlin
#

^ lol

elfin trout
#

like yes a good 280mm aio is better than a bad 360mm aio

#

@toxic dome I invite you to look at GN testing

#

You think I haven't looked?

#

:P

#

So you got any sources to respond with?

#

:P

#

Ig you've never watched GN testing

#

that makes sense

gray oak
#

but he was saying a bad 360 vs a good 240

elfin trout
#

Welp

#

360mm Arctic freezer ii

#

that's my suggestion like always

#

nothing less

#

ek-aio is acceptable tho

gray oak
#

like a cheap $50 360 vs a 180$ 240

elfin trout
#

but expensive

#

Yes

gray oak
#

what about a kraken with artic fans?

#

or ek fans even?

elfin trout
#

Why would someone test that smh

#

there's no point

gray oak
#

fair enough

elfin trout
#

half of the performance comes from the radiator design

#

they don't use the same radiator

minor portalBOT
#
zsharpnif#5818 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gray oak
#

fair point,

#

what would you suggest for a rgb 360 aio?

elfin trout
#

Ek-aio

#
#

expensive

#

but if you go rgb

#

you're going to spend a ton anyways

#

so why not get something that performs really nicely

main marlin
elfin trout
#

who cares

#

not moi

gray oak
#

i like the screen on the kraken tho, is there any others that do that that you would suggest?

elfin trout
#

no

gray oak
#

damn it

elfin trout
#

Screen is overrated

#

bad

gray oak
#

that was kinda the only selling point for me

elfin trout
#

it's overrated

#

don't get it

gray oak
#

yeah, i could get one of the tiny screens

elfin trout
#

there's no reason to smh

gray oak
#

and im guessing its a bad idea to mix radiators with coolers?

elfin trout
#

what

gray oak
#

like, use a kraken block with ek radiator

#

is bad idea?

elfin trout
#

why

#

and how the hell

#

might as well do custom loop lmfao

#

hell

gray oak
#

cool screen and good radiator

elfin trout
#

you have to do custom loop if you're gonna do that

#

@gray oak Performance comes from a crap ton of design choices

gray oak
#

darn, that seems like even more

elfin trout
#

for example

#

Arctic freezer ii uses a high fin density radiator so they use their P12 fans that are designed for pressure to get that nice performance

gray oak
#

neato

elfin trout
#

custom loop is annoying

#

my suggestion is grab an arctic freezer ii 360mm and call it a day

#

how often are you going to be staring at your CPU block anyways

gray oak
#

not too often, but i still want it to look neat,

#

i guess an ek 360 would be nice, and which one was it that had the rgb?

elfin trout
#

ek aio

#
#

I have a NH-D15

gray oak
#

oh, are they compatible with razer chroma, bc that's what i use to control lighting rn

elfin trout
#

and I'm not looking back

#

look

#

rgb software can kill themselves

#

idc

#

all of them suck

gray oak
#

oof, ouchie

elfin trout
#

the thing with aircoolers is that

gray oak
#

yeah, ig, but also what about fan capacities and air coolers size?

elfin trout
#

even if the fan fails after a decade

#

the heatsink is still a heatsink

#

it sinks heat

#

mhm

#

when your AIO pump fail

#

it's a horrible idea to try and use it

#

air cooler fan die?

#

just reduced airflow, continue going

gray oak
#

yeah, i suppose

elfin trout
#

more points of failure for aios too

#

pump, tube, fans.

#

instead of just fans

gray oak
#

i just like the look of the aio's compared to a big block on the cpu

elfin trout
#

big block is nice

#

it's comforting

gray oak
#

bigger block means smaller number]

elfin trout
#

umk

#

I kinda want nr200

#

tbh I need to refresh my knowledge on itx cases

#

it's too expensive

#

nachos gave me some to look at a while ago

#

it was like 300$ a case

gray oak
#

damn

main marlin
#

anyone got an opinion on the inwin 925?

gray oak
#

overall looks good to me, but id just be concerned about dust and particles getting in

main marlin
#

yeah i've been doing a lot of research into it and I don't think I've found a single person who has disliked the design but almost everyone has had something negative to say about the functionality

gray oak
#

opinions on the razer tomahawk?

#

wdym by functionality

main marlin
#

like fans covering the rear io

gray oak
#

yeah it looks like your mobo ports are right by the rear fans, that's gotta be a hassle for cable management, as well as not many cabble routes

#

yeah, i can see how that's not too great

main marlin
#

also the fact that there's barely enough clearance for a 360 rad on the top

#

if at all

gray oak
#

that's a tough one, corsair and evga are decent, but id wait and ask someone else who knows a bit more i might be wrong

#

@elfin trout what's your suggestion

elfin trout
#

hm

#

@scenic lance

#

ignore the brand

#

buy a PSU for the model

gray oak
#

like, wattage and rating

#

yeah, that's pretty decent, keep above 650 an usually go for gold or around there

elfin trout
#

NE zen gold?

#

it's decent

#

bit better than like a EVGA BR but nowhere near top of the line

#

mhm

#

no

#

more like protections, ripple, warranty, that kinda stuff

#

the more I look into things

#

the less LTT is reliable for information on stuff lel
But at least their community is good

#

I mean the testing he does is...

#

questionable

#

when I watch GN

#

lel

snow zodiac
#

LTT is funny, but thatโ€™s it

elfin trout
#

LTT is fun

#

I agree, weird tech and all

#

but I don't really like them for like testing coverage

scenic lance
#

How about bitwit

#

I like his video's more than ltt

elfin trout
#

I don't watch him

#

seems fine to me

#

GN is enough for me

#

and reading TPU articles

scenic lance
#

His pc building tutorial is better than ltt's

elfin trout
#

No I know I've seen bitwit

#

I don't actively follow his channel

#

that's what I mean by I don't watch bitwit

#

if you can only watch 1 GN video

#

I suggest this

#

GN gets deep, and it's deep enough for me, but there's people that dive even deeper into tech, I just haven't gotten far enough to really like em tho.

snow zodiac
#

Watching it now

elfin trout
#

watching GN is suggested at 1.25x or 1.5x speed

#

I listen to it at 1x speed at the background, or 1.25x when I'm actively watching it

#

he goes through a lot of info

#

TD500 mesh best case imo >:D

gray oak
#

nice

elfin trout
#

hm?

#

lancool ii?

#

I like td500 mesh better for 360mm top rad support

#

but lancool ii mesh is good too

#

dunno

#

but anyways

#

if you have time

#

watching that GN vid is very good

#

H500 mesh is actually pretty nice imo

#

I like it

#

but the "thiccness" isn't for everyone

#

ohh 2019 best cases?

#

P400a was on top

#

But yea TD500 mesh released after that post

elfin trout
#

Out of those two, lancool ii

gray oak
#

both are really good, and both have almost the same fan support, as well as cost about the same

elfin trout
#

but I'd also just get a Coolermaster TD500 mesh

#

:)

gray oak
#

alrighty, sweet

elfin trout
#

make sure it's the mesh version

gray oak
#

would you be able to help me build a new pc, i have a few of the parts thought out and just need help finishing it off

elfin trout
#

sure

#

oh the H500?

#

oh yea it was like 85$

gray oak
#

so one of those three cases, the two i linked or the td500 mesh

elfin trout
#

it's really sweet at 85$

#

2x200mm is a unique look

gray oak
#

ill put iot all in one message then

elfin trout
#

@scenic lance thought you were talking about TD500 mesh, H500 comes with a mesh front panel or a plastic panel that you can choose which one you want

#

H500 no-suffix

gray oak
#

alrighty, ill make one and link it and could you help me figure out the best combination?

elfin trout
#

sure

#

at first yea

#

but I personally love the H500 for the unique 2x200mm fan look

#

and the handle

#

and good thermals

#

it's not a chart topper, but it's in the upper like 30%

#

w mesh

#

it comes with mesh iirc

#

I actually really wanted one for myself

#

it does one sec

#

that's fine

#

mhm

#

amp is A tier

#

oh wait a sec

#

B550 phantom gaming 4/ac

#

gotta swap that out

#

for some reason the ac version takes off one of the M.2 key B/M slots

#

uh?

#

mATX is technically easier to install

#

because less screws

#

mATX is just ATX

#

with the bottom x16 and x4 slots taken off

#

everything else is the same

#

like ITX is where it gets a bit weird

snow zodiac
#

How tf do I get a pc part picker list to stay

#

I hate pc part picker now

elfin trout
#

wdym

#

@snow zodiac save

snow zodiac
#

Yeah I donโ€™t wanna make an account

#

I hate making new accounts for things

static aspen
#

Hmm

#

You can always send the link on the left without saving

elfin trout
#

yea

#

you see that link

#

copy paste

#

the link stays

gray oak
static aspen
#

And no account needed for that link

elfin trout
#

@snow zodiac basically you could use some other random service to store the links

snow zodiac
#

I made an account

#

Iโ€™m saving it now

elfin trout
#

what the

#

interesting list