#cases-psu-and-cooling

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novel flax
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and corsair cases don't shatter easily

soft basin
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you haven't lived with 1-2 year olds have you, they climb stuff, throw stuff down stairs, general wreak anything in reach

novel flax
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I actually have... my youngest sister was like that a few years ago

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but I didn't know any with superhuman strength to knock down a 50 lb machine LMAO

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like- WHAT?

soft basin
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they picked up a patio stone this morning and shattered it, i was suprised they didn't smash a toe

novel flax
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... why would a child throw a stone...

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whatever u do u

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ko looks cool

soft basin
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i've watched babies climb garage doors as well as the back of my pc chair

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anyway no tempered glass on my list

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I'll recycle my Apex Gaming AG-850M modular psu

scenic lance
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im building my pc in few days still dont have psu i have 3700x and 2070 s should i get 650w or 750w

teal creek
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650 should be enough

novel flax
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@scenic lance 650w is fine, 750w if u wanna upgrade in the future

loud brook
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i mean 650w is fine

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and i doubt u would need a 750w psu in the future

novel flax
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U never know @loud brook, when the time comes to upgrade, if u spend 5 extra $ now, save 100 in the futute

loud brook
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i mean parts would become more power efficient

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not power hungry

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unless ur intel and slap more +

rugged sedge
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Can someone help me choose the right psu

loud brook
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@rugged sedge sure

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what parts are you running and what budget

rugged sedge
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Ryzen 5 and 1660 super

rugged sedge
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Why that one?

loud brook
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its a tier a rated PSU

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one of the best power supplies out there

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great caps and regulators

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and also 80+ gold

dry raft
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Hey what are the bronze,silver and gold rating on psu for

surreal magnet
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power efficiency

golden kestrel
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A gold rating doesn't mean its good tho

dry raft
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Golds the best i guess?

golden kestrel
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Platinum is best iirc

surreal magnet
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it has better power efficiency, but that doesnt mean its a better psu in general

dry raft
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yeah

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well thank you

golden kestrel
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Np

surreal magnet
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basically, if you care about power efficiency, you want a titanium psu

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otherwise, it really doesnt matter

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theyre all the same for most people

scenic lance
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Is there a video out there on how to do a case swap

eager monolith
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It's pretty simple, you can just look at a build guide for each case and do the one you are disassembling in reverse order 🙂

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I'm sure there are, but like I doubt there is one single video for your two cases

cerulean shell
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Looking For Assistance I bought a Phanteks P350X Case but the wiring from it is 3 pin (male) but my motherboard is 4 pin (male). The motherboard is a Tomahawk B450 Max and these two items are supposed to be compatible via mystic light. Anyones help in finding an adapter would be greatly appreciated!

eager monolith
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You can probably make one if you for sure don't have the header

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You just need: pinouts, wire, and the heads with pins for each

cerulean shell
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I have no clue how to do that, ive never put a pc together but i built mine from bottom up with no instructions tho

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im a lost cause when it comes to wiring and stuff

eager monolith
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Can you send me a clear picture of the mobo and the wire?

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Dm me, as you can't attach photos on this server until you are lvl 3

cerulean shell
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im currently at work so not atm

eager monolith
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K, if you would like help dm me when you get the chance 🙂

cerulean shell
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i dm'd u

scenic lance
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I can’t find a build guide for my case, it is a Corsair carbide 275r

faint rampart
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oh its out of stock.... nvm

scenic lance
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Does the Corsair Carbide 275r support micro atx motherboards

vocal talon
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yea

faint rampart
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the newegg psu calculator recommended 406W so im thinking of getting a 450W? Is that a good amount? If so are there any 45W PSUs you can recommend?

surreal magnet
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what cpu and gpu?

faint rampart
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ryzen 7 3800x and RTX 2070

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@surreal magnet ^

surreal magnet
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3800x peak power consumption is 130w

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2070 peak power consumption is 230w

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the rest of your system will use like 40 more watts on the 12v rail

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so i would say 500w minimum

faint rampart
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really?! Ok

surreal magnet
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500-650 is fine, just depends on whatever is cheaper

faint rampart
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so dont follow the newegg psu calculator?

surreal magnet
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how much are you looking to spend on a psu?

faint rampart
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100 max

surreal magnet
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psu calcs are mediocre, you get better results doing your own reasearch

faint rampart
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Ok

faint rampart
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alright thanks

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what does it mean modular though? @surreal magnet

surreal magnet
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modular power supplies have removable cables

faint rampart
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what cables would be?

surreal magnet
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like sata and molex cables

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and the gpu power cable

faint rampart
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ohhhh ok

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thanks

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👌

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thank you so much

surreal magnet
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np

plucky citrus
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So I have a 450 watts psu and the system I’m building takes 360 watts is a 450 watts psu big enough

willow hollow
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i wouldnt unless it was good

surreal magnet
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most psus 500w and lower tend to all suck

plucky citrus
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Yeah

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!rank

minor portalBOT
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XMARK6 Spooky1eight, that command is disabled in this channel.

surreal magnet
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not for wattage reasons, its just that companies feel like they can make low wattage PSUs into bombs and get away with it, ya know

plucky citrus
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It an Vega

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Evga

clear swallow
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EVGA BR 450's are actually solid sub-500W ones

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B tier on the LTT list

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so if you don't need anything beefier, that's usually the one i recommend

surreal magnet
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that and the Corsair CV are both cheap low wattage psus

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that arent bombs lmao

clear swallow
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yeah

surreal magnet
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once you hit 550w, you have a ton more options

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oh, theres also a corsair CX450m

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but thats about it

plucky citrus
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Yeah

willow hollow
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please dont get the EVGA white ones

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those things are sketch

chrome iris
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They work, but I'd only use the for very low cost used part systems and stuff

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Just don't get an N1 or N2 :P

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Those things are even more sketch

scenic lance
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What’s a good budget case with a large cpu and gpu clearance

chrome iris
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what price @scenic lance

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i mean what's ur budget for a case

fossil cairn
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Guys so I was in the newegg system builder and I selected NZXT 500 elite as my case the problem is when u go to choose my psu it says that there is no compatible options I deselected mono, CPU storage etc until all I had was the case I tried to choose a psu but again no compatible options does this mean that no psu here are compatible or is this just a glitch?

light wyvern
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glitch

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no worries any size up to satx should fit so thats most power supplies except for mining i belive

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@fossil cairn

fossil cairn
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So anything psu that will fit up to an atx will fit this case right?

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Thxs

hard lintel
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What 550 W Power Supply you recommend ?

dark coral
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anyone seen the azza pyramid 804-V case?

haughty bay
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guys asking for someone:
his PSU power cable burned/melted, he wants to replace it
How would you go about it ?
Model: Aigo GP650

fervent sedge
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which cable?

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@haughty bay

chrome iris
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If it's non mudular, idk if there's anything you can do.

haughty bay
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which cable?
@fervent sedge wall to PSU power cord

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not PSU to components power cables I don't think

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Would any 16+ AWG cord work ?

willow hollow
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yea

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most psu to wall cables are the same

haughty bay
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guess I'll recommend them 14AWG to be safe

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thanks!

hard lintel
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What 550 W Power Supply you recommend ?

loud brook
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What 550 W Power Supply you recommend ?
@hard lintel Straight Power 11

round pike
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Check the tier list

young osprey
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@haughty bay you should recommend that he fix whatever is wrong that caused the power cable to melt. He could burn down his house with stuff like that

haughty bay
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@haughty bay you should recommend that he fix whatever is wrong that caused the power cable to melt. He could burn down his house with stuff like that
@young osprey thanks too true hah I did suggest he should get a new PSU and he said he will soon

round pike
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Good news is the circuit will probably trip before that happens, but ya know

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Our dishwasher almost caught on fire on night

scenic lance
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How can I find a vertical mount for my case ik it supports it but I can’t seem to find a mount for it

elfin trout
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?

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If your case supports it

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There should be a pcie bracket in the vertical position

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And usually that's all that holds it up, sometimes a thing to prevent sag but that's about it

vernal flax
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am i gonna have to buy a whole new psu for the new 3000series GPU like im hearing?

scenic lance
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not if you have a 850 or 750 RMx or something of the sort.

vernal flax
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I have a collar master 750 wat 80+ gold

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Cooler

scenic lance
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k, some of those aren't great with efficiency, so you might want to upgrade to a hefty corsair if you go with a 3080 or better.

chrome iris
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750w should be enough

elfin trout
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@vernal flax the 12pin thing is just a rumor right now, and most mainstream PSUs have 6+2 power connectors so you should be able to combine 2x6 for 12pin.

vernal flax
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I read that those wont work and that nvidia is possibly gonna ship a adapter with the cards. idk

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@elfin trout

elfin trout
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still a rumor rn

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we'll see

vernal flax
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I just dont wanna have to buy a whole new freaking power suppply

elfin trout
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likely don't have to

vernal flax
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ok good

minor gyro
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Hey does anyone know what happened to the Antec Striker ? Doesn't show up when you search for it on the canadian version of Newegg

lofty pewter
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@elfin trout @vernal flax new ATX standards take so many years to flesh out, it's hard to believe that absolutely no rumors or "beta" PSUs have come out with the new connector yet. The rumor kinda smells like bull 💩

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As Nvidia would more then likely wait until the standard is properly out

vernal flax
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Well there's articles confirming it now so

vocal talon
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In addition, there was talk of a 12-pin adapter included with the Founders Edition, which should allow the connection of two 8-pin EPS cables. That again was the reason for the excitement among the power supply manufacturers, because the EPS is actually used for the CPU supply, is currently available twice at the most and is also mostly already fully used. Thus the reported connection would not make sense at all, if new power supply standards would not be introduced.``` we dont know everything until it launches
round pike
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Also there was something that was pointed out on the wan show last night that the whole thing could be faked

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It might also only be used for quadros and teslas

lofty pewter
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quadros/teslas might makes sense for that. But not mainstream

vocal talon
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yeah maybe for the titan but i cant really see it being necessary for the 3060

vocal talon
elfin trout
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@vocal talon Did they cut a hole in that solid front panel and added mesh? lmfao I'd recommend that case

vocal talon
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idk but h510 mesh looks pretty hawt

quasi dirge
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What’s the temps with that mesh case? @elfin trout

elfin trout
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I don't own that case so I dunno

golden kestrel
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Are all psu power cables the same?

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I bought a psu but it didn't come with one

round pike
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Like the one that goes to the wall?

golden kestrel
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Yes

round pike
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Yup

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With the exception of crazy oem cables of course

golden kestrel
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So where can I buy one lol

round pike
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Or reuse one you have sitting around

golden kestrel
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I have one that didn't come with a psu but has the same connector. Is that fine?

round pike
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Should be

soft gorge
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Seems like a nice looking case

golden kestrel
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Aight

round pike
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What's the PSU wattage?

golden kestrel
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650

round pike
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Should be fone

golden kestrel
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K ty

quasi dirge
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Okay @elfin trout

chrome iris
elfin trout
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Yes

chrome iris
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alr just making sure

lofty pewter
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Ye, list has that PSU short formed a lot. When I was looking through the spreadsheets for info it was NE Zen or smth. Took me a while to find.

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It's basically A tier quality but too loud for being in A tier. Idk how it compares to other B+ tiers tho

scenic lance
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Question. I am at a crossroads here. My friend is building a new PC and asking for advice. We're hung up on three potential cases those being: Rosewill Specta C100-A, NZXT H510B-W1, and Thermaltake V200.

At first we were going to go with the NZXT, but we're worried about potential Thermal Problems due to only two 120mm vents for case fans.

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What is the better case?

golden kestrel
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They only one with decent airflow would be the rosewill imo

scenic lance
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@golden kestrel would you recommend other cases?

golden kestrel
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My go to is the td500 mesh from cooler master @scenic lance

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Comes with 3 argb fans too

scenic lance
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Sold out and price gouged.

golden kestrel
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ya, it might by difficult to find in stock

scenic lance
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Darn.

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Anything else you would recommend?

golden kestrel
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I think newegg has it in stock for 113 iirc

scenic lance
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I'm so use to buying from Amazon

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I forget Newegg is there

golden kestrel
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lol

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alternatively there would be the h500 from coolermaster aswell

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or p400a from phanteks but that will be hard to find too

scenic lance
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The h500 is almost $250 xD

golden kestrel
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oof

elfin trout
scenic lance
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I believe I have came to a decision

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Fractal Design Meshify C Black ATX High-Airflow Compact Light Tint Tempered Glass Mid Tower Computer Case

elfin trout
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Meshify C only comes with 1 installed fan

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no rgb

scenic lance
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I don't plan on using the stock fan.

elfin trout
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so do you have 3 extra fans?

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because that's usually an extra cost

scenic lance
elfin trout
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rip the shipping

scenic lance
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5 fans for $40

elfin trout
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yea p12s are fine

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just that you can get a case at 100$ with 3 120mm argb fans instead of a case at 100$ with just 1 120mm fan

scenic lance
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Yeah I was considering the LL120 120mm Fans from I wanna say corsair

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But a pack of 3 is around $120

elfin trout
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that's why I like td500 mesh

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100$ and comes with 3xargb

golden kestrel
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Good value

chrome iris
golden kestrel
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Doesn't look very promising

chrome iris
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fr

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"astrape" what a weird name

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sounds very wrong

golden kestrel
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Non modular and rgb

chrome iris
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and 1yr warranty

golden kestrel
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Interesting

chrome iris
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even the N1 has a 2yr warranty

willow hollow
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hmm

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that or tt smart :)?

chrome iris
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TT smart

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TT smart pretty bad but not as bad as this i think

lofty pewter
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same tier as TT Smart tho

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12v rail has dumb voltage regulation... 11.09v on crossload 12. That's a new low I've seen so far

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rest of voltage regulation is pretty poor, but at least within ATX standards

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ooo, 650w has worse CL12 voltage regulation, 11.061v. Nice

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voltage ripple isnt too bad

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70% load is like 1650RPM for fan or smth, 100% load is 1950RPM, no mention of noise I could find but feel like it'd be decently loud at and beyond 70% load

chrome iris
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Wait @lofty pewter the Gamdias PSU is tier D?

lofty pewter
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M1 is, ye

chrome iris
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:o

chrome iris
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@lofty pewter? Ik I’m pinging you a lot today sorry ab that but any idea on this one?

light wyvern
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welp need help with a psu for a custom build for 760

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imma make a list then imma ask for improvemnet

chrome iris
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GTX 760?

light wyvern
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760$ build

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hehe hes asking if ic an make a custom 900 build

chrome iris
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Oh with what CPU+GPU

light wyvern
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imma make with 800 or used that much

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cpu 3600 gpu 2060 or 1660 super

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or 5600xt

chrome iris
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Uh probably something like a SeaSonic S12III

light wyvern
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that works

chrome iris
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Tier B or something

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Maybe EVGA GD

light wyvern
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oki imma make a list

lofty pewter
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idk about Kratos M1. Cant see much about it

chrome iris
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Same

light wyvern
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there we go

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thats what im planning

chrome iris
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Mmm looks solid

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Make sure that’s the V2 of that PSU. V1 isn’t that good

light wyvern
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yeah i got lazy with it

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i have nother 2 weeks till i build

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im waitinf for the payment

lofty pewter
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pretty sure MWE Gold only has V1. Bronze there is V1 - V3

onyx dome
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Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has purchased the LIAN LI LANCOOL II WHITE Tempered Glass ATX Case -White Color -LANCOOL II -Way? I would like to purchase it but the problem is I don't know if the version on newegg.ca has all the optional components? I did not see an option to add those at checkout!

golden kestrel
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Like the actual components that they show in the case?

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Because you can't just buy those lol. Its just an example of what you could buy and build in the case

dry raft
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Hey what micro atx cases that around to 60 to 100 bucks do you guys recommend

golden kestrel
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Cooler master mb311L@dry raft

dry raft
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Thanks @golden kestrel

golden kestrel
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Np

onyx dome
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@golden kestrel No hahaha, I am not that thick 😆 , they offer and LED strip, a GPU riser cable, and a USB C connector as "options" so I am not sure if they come with the one on newegg.ca by default

golden kestrel
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oh lol

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idk then

sweet ibex
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hows this case should i get it?

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what are the downsides to an open-case

vocal talon
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dust

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and its louder than normal cases because it has nothing blocking the sound

sweet ibex
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do you think the case i linked is good?

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@vocal talon

vocal talon
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looks decent to me but idk much about open air

jagged cedar
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anyone know if the Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold is a good PSU

golden kestrel
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Yes, its good

chrome iris
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The V1 is not that good. V2 is

golden kestrel
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Hei said there isn't a v1 or v2 for the mwe gold @chrome iris

chrome iris
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there definitely is. Shows on PSU tier list and talked to JonnyGuru ab it

golden kestrel
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I've never been able to find one lol

lofty pewter
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bronze have a V2, not gold afaik

chrome iris
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hmmmm

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I mean I guess. It was a while ago that JonnyGuru told me this over on Tom's Hardware

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so I may not be remmebering correctly

jagged cedar
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V1?

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whats that

chrome iris
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There’s two versions of the MWE bronze. Version 1 (V1) and Version 2 (V2)

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V2 is better quality

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@jagged cedar

sweet ibex
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does anyone know how to check how many total watts your computer is using?

scenic lance
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i think you can use task manager

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not too sure thou

chrome iris
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no not task manager

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uh what was that one program called

scenic lance
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ok so you cant use task manager

chrome iris
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You could buy a kill-a-watt meter @sweet ibex

prime orchid
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Anyone know when the NZXT H1 will be restocked?

clear swallow
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thoughts on the Deepcool Matrexx 50? was looking at the Cougar MX330 but apparently it won't support the cooler I'm thinking about picking up

chrome iris
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Airflow

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I can't breathe in a glass box and neither can a PC

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What cooler were you looking at?

clear swallow
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the arctic freezer 50 TR, threadripper cooler lol

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which is a beefy boi

chrome iris
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the 50 TR or 33 TR or what

clear swallow
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50 TR

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which is 165mm tall, and apparently too tall for the cougar case

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so i was looking at other mid tower cases that might have enough clearance

chrome iris
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mmmm what's the clearance for cougar?

clear swallow
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155

chrome iris
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ah gotcha

clear swallow
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i'm on the fence about a switch to threadripper, so i'm just looking at how much it would cost to pick up the few items i'd need to make it happen

chrome iris
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for EATX mobo or...?

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What threadripper

clear swallow
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1920x

chrome iris
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for what? gaming?

clear swallow
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and looking at the asrock phantom gaming 6

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50/50 gaming and running VM's

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i'm getting back into some self-learning courses, both for myself and for work stuff

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and i've also really just wanted to run a TR system for a while

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and first gen is 'cheap'

chrome iris
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Well those TRs are kinda bad value iirc

clear swallow
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i know the 1900x is, at 8c/16t

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the 1920 is 12/24

chrome iris
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How much is 1920X again? $300?

clear swallow
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i'm seeing them for like 200-240ish on ebay

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new is closer to 300

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but i'm fine with used

chrome iris
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are you gonna get new or used

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Oh used

clear swallow
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motherboard is used as well

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and $180

chrome iris
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Well, I think for extra gaming performance, you could get 3800X or 3900X and a motherboard for cheap. But in workstation loads 1920X takes the lead

clear swallow
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yeah, that's the thing, i'm still gonna be gaming on it, but i'm trying to have some better workstation capability compared to my r5 2600

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trying to rebuild my hacker brain and also work towards a devops role at work, so being able to do both would be nice

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i also multi-task a lot on my machine

chrome iris
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Well TR isn't necessarily bad for gaming, but you can do better

clear swallow
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yeah, i'm only doing 1080p gaming anyway though

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on cheap 60hz monitors

chrome iris
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oh

clear swallow
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so as long as i can still maintain that

chrome iris
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so

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Yeah you'll be fine with 1920x

clear swallow
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trying to keep everything to around $400 total, between motherboard/cpu/cooler/case

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i can transfer everything else over

chrome iris
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and don't get Matrexx 50. Airflow doesn't look the worst but it's not the greatest and wouldn't want a 180w TR in a glass box :P

clear swallow
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roger that

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my local shop has fractal focus G cases in stock i think

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was looking at those as well

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i think those are the micro atx cases

chrome iris
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No ATX pretty sure

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Focus G mini is micro

clear swallow
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oh wait that's right, derp, the asrock board is full atx so yeah

chrome iris
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ATX or EATX?

clear swallow
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i think just atx

chrome iris
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Tehn Focus g will work. Better than Matrexx 55 i think

clear swallow
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word

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so many DIYPC cases on wegg

chrome iris
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ikr. Shhhhh about it tho

clear swallow
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haha

chrome iris
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That's what I use for flips and don't want people taking all of them

willow hollow
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lmao

clear swallow
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oh good point

willow hollow
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rosewill case for 30 dollars

chrome iris
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No now Meep knows too eeeeeeeeeeee

clear swallow
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i might try and flip my r6 system if i go TR

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i already have 2 systems i need to move though

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and a couple of laptops

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the life of a builder/hoarder

empty ember
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guys my case doesnt have a filter on the psu so dO i put my facing psu up or down?

golden kestrel
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Put the psu fan wherever the intake cutout is, regardless of whether it has a dust filter

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@empty ember

empty ember
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okk

golden kestrel
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Send a picture after you do it just to make sure

limpid meadow
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Can anyone help me find the right psu

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My pc is gonna be a !5-9600k with a EVGA RTX 2060 super

novel flax
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@limpid meadow ew, get a ryzen chip

limpid meadow
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Lmao 😂 I’ve already got the i5

novel flax
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fff

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why would you get an intel chip for that?

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the only reason you'd get an intel chip is if you have a specific task or you have, at the very least, a 2500% budget

limpid meadow
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I found the i5 cheaper than the Ryzen equivalent

novel flax
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which i5 is it

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oh

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9600k?

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do u have a cooler?

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@limpid meadow

limpid meadow
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Yeah

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It’s a i5-9600k

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And I’ve got a cooler

novel flax
#

damm

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what cooler

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also what mobo

#

@limpid meadow

limpid meadow
#

The mobo is a Asus prime z390-a atx

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And the cooler is a cooler master hyper t2

chrome iris
#

@limpid meadow do you want to overclock this chip?

limpid meadow
#

I’m kinda new to the whole pc builds I’ve only ever built two in the past but with other people, this is my first pc on my own so I don’t really know what overlocking means

chrome iris
#

Oh I’m gonna assume no then :p

#

Overclocking is when you basically shove more power into a CPU to get it to perform better

#

In your build I think a good 500-550w will be enough

#

Cooler master MWE, Corsair CX. In the pins of this channel there’s a power supply tier list. Look on there to find a power supply. Shoot for tier B+ or better.

#

@limpid meadow

limpid meadow
#

Thanks @chrome iris I was looking at a cooler master gold 750w

chrome iris
#

Yeah. That much power is unneeded unless you wanna upgrade to 3080 TI or something :P

#

And something you should know:
Efficiency rating, like bronze or gold, doesn’t determine the quality of a power supply

limpid meadow
#

Ahhh yeah some of my friends were telling me to go even higher with 850w

chrome iris
#

Tsk tsk

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Well I mean it’s a common mistake

#

Thinking you need a super high wattage

limpid meadow
#

@chrome iris so the 750w is too much I should just stick to a 500 or 650 than

chrome iris
#

I mean it’s not too much but it’s unneeded. Highest I’d go is 650w to “future proof.” Anything above is a waste of money imo unless you’re planning on getting a 3080 ti and a 10900k :P

#

@limpid meadow

limpid meadow
#

Maybe in the future but at that point I should build a new pc

chrome iris
#

Yeah probably. Since you’d need to upgrade motherboard as well

limpid meadow
#

Yeah I really appreciate the help, anyone you recommend specifically @chrome iris

chrome iris
#

Model > brand

#

Brands make some good, and some trash models

#

Look in the pins for the PSU tier list again. Shoot for B+ or better

willow hollow
#

bruh i had a 550w thought it was good

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then i got a gtx 980 ti

#

getting 750w is not a bad decision

chrome iris
#

650w should power 980 ti or even 2080 ti fine

#

@limpid meadow

willow hollow
#

lol 980 ti consumes similar power to the 2080ti

#

its very fun

limpid meadow
#

Would a 750w be overlocking the cpu?

chrome iris
#

Even a 600w would give you a lot of headroom to overclock the CPU

#

But if you overclock you need a good motherboard and cooler as well. Hyper 212 won’t cut it for overclocking

limpid meadow
#

Got you

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Any cooler you recommend thank

#

Is the overlocking you do something manually or something that just happens because of the psu @chrome iris

willow hollow
#

manually

chrome iris
#

Yeah you gotta do it manually @limpid meadow

limpid meadow
#

If I do overlock what’s a good cpu cooler

chrome iris
#

Cooler. Hyper 212 is fine for no overclocking, but with overclocking you’re gonna want something a lot beefier. A good water cooler or good air cooler. Off the top of my head some good air coolers are Scythe Fuma 2 or Noctua NH-D15

willow hollow
#

me who got 4.7 ghz stable on my 4690k with hyper 212 evo

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:))

chrome iris
#

Whaaaaaat

limpid meadow
#

One last question would you recommend overlocking?

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@chrome iris @willow hollow

chrome iris
#

I usually don’t overclock. Too much work. For your build it isn’t needed. But you can. You might get a couple more FPS if you do

willow hollow
#

i mean you have a k cpu

#

i say go

chrome iris
#

That’s true

willow hollow
#

you spent all that money better use it lol

chrome iris
#

But he’s also new to building PCs

#

And overclocking requires a lot of messing around with voltages. He might not feel comfortable doing it

limpid meadow
#

I mean I’ve two in the past but not on my own it was part of club at my college

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And now I’m making the switch from ps4 to pc

chrome iris
#

Oh? You’ve overclocked in the past?

#

CPU or GPU overclock?

willow hollow
#

i think he means builds

#

but cpu oc's aren't too hard

limpid meadow
#

I havent done anything stress test wise

willow hollow
#

lots of tutorials on yt

limpid meadow
#

I’ve only built the pc and turned it on to test of it worked after that the person who we built it for took it home

willow hollow
#

look up overclocking tutorials for your specific mobo/cpu

limpid meadow
#

Ok thanks a lot

clear swallow
#

i've mentioned it in a couple other channels, but i'm on the fence about a switch to threadripper, and my current desktop is on a 650W PSU, from what i can tell it sounds like i'll be fine if i switch to a first gen TR, but i just want to get a second opinion. will 650 be enough?

#

if i have to get another PSU, i might scrap the entire idea, because instead of a core system swap, it's getting to be a full rebuild

west kite
#

Can someone tell me what the rpm is for the fans are in this case?

chrome iris
#

@clear swallow if you don’t have a super power hungry GPU 650w is fine

clear swallow
#

right now i have this weird dell oem rx580, which is pretty good about power

chrome iris
#

Then I wouldn’t worry about it

clear swallow
#

right on

chrome iris
#

Unless CPU is like 350w

clear swallow
#

it's 180W per specs

#

and i probably won't be overclocking it

chrome iris
#

Yeah so no worries

#

It’ll be good

clear swallow
#

cool

#

now to just get somebody to actually sell me the cpu/mobo

chrome iris
#

Good luck

languid perch
#

Yo prices are wack rn, how much do sfx psus usually go for?

round pike
#

What rating?

languid perch
#

80+ gold, 600W, (Corsair SF600), does $135 seem reasonable?

candid moth
#

nope

#

wait

#

form factor?

languid perch
#

SFX

willow hollow
#

yea that sounds a bit overpriced if used, if new, its ok i guess

languid perch
#

Yeah it’s new

#

$125 on Corsair website

willow hollow
#

not too bad but making an itx build is uhh

#

ill advised

languid perch
#

Oh why is that?

round pike
#

Things get tight

#

You really have to check all your dimensions, and make sure you leave room for airflow

languid perch
#

Uhh can someone help me out there lol

#

First build in 4 years

round pike
#

Just go mATX. Your life will be better

#

Also probably cheaper

languid perch
#

I’m pretty set on mini atx since I’ll be taking it to college and space is pretty limited

#

Would mATX be a lot larger?

round pike
#

mATX is just a bit bigger than mITX

old jay
#

Ew no itx

#

Atx = superior

languid perch
#

Already got my case thoughhh

round pike
#

What case

languid perch
#

Cougar QBX Kaze

round pike
#

Too late to return it?

languid perch
#

Yeah it’s like 3-4 years old lol

round pike
#

Hmmm

#

Okay

#

So you could get a new case

old jay
#

Looks like we’re going itx lol

round pike
#

Or that

languid perch
#

Ig I could, I do wanna make a pretty small pc though

old jay
#

Let’s just work with the itx then

vital wing
#

Does anybody know where i can get a PSU but with longer cables!

languid perch
#

You can buy different length cables online

vital wing
#

ok

clear swallow
#

or just get extensions, then you can do wacky colors or go for a theme or something

willow hollow
#

rgb cable extensions :))

sly bobcat
#

you could also make your own cables

blissful ruin
#

anyone off the top of their head that can point out the differences between the Phanteks p600s and the p500a? it says they're built on the same chassis, but what does that mean otherwise? obviously i see the biggest difference is the mesh front compared to the removable panel

sly bobcat
#

the top and front of the case change a little its mostly exterior molding changes (top and front). the tooling otherwise is identical meaning the frame and most major assemblies are the same ... every case company really uses this technique cause the tooling for a single case is often well over 200,000 dollars then revisions to that tooling in the design phase + designers time + tooling repair in the future after a few production runs is a lot of money to spend... so the tooling for one chassis will be reused for more models with most of the same parts however since injection molding is cheap most of the time plastics and other exterior panels are changed to give the perception of a new case sometimes other features are added or removed such as number of included 2.5 inch caddies

#

@blissful ruin

#

in this particular instance the top and front panel molding changes. as well as front panel material is now mostly steel.

#

internally the tooling is the same

blissful ruin
#

ok cool. i've been eyeing either one of those or the Meshify S2 at this point so i've been trying to decide what my best option is in that size/price/feature range

sly bobcat
#

while its a lot of personal opinion id be on the s2 myself

#

the p400 varients, and p3xx cases as well as the metallic gear cases many of which share some basic tooling between various versions are all pretty flimsy

#

i havent seen a s2 or the r6 in a little while in person but if i recall the mobo tray was a little stiffer

#

the mobo tray tooling they use doesnt add much stiffness to the sheet

#

as well as that goes back long ago for the enthoo line as well like the old pro and stuff

blissful ruin
#

i think my main issue with the S2 is the front io being on the removable panel instead of the chassis

sly bobcat
#

well i suppose but how much of that is really a issue for you?

blissful ruin
#

probably not much in reality

sly bobcat
#

the only 2 issues i have for the s2 is pricing (microcenter fixes that really cheap there) and the stupid logo on the front panel i hate

#

but i have not been impressed with phanteks tooling overall

#

i like where they were going with airflow and listening to some of the community

#

they just need to make them not so much like a wet noodle

blissful ruin
#

noted

sly bobcat
#

@blissful ruin see gns p400 review there was a spot where he pressed on the case panels in different spots and bowed the top of the case

#

might have been the p400a

#

forget which one of the GN pieces it was on

#

while the cases your asking about use different tooling

#

phanteks has a habit of not using enough ribs and stuff in the stamping process to stiffen panels

#

they focus more on using less material to lower cost

#

their noodle mobo trays also go back a long time too

#

have a old enthoo next to me like that as well

blissful ruin
#

the only 2 issues i have for the s2 is pricing (microcenter fixes that really cheap there) and the stupid logo on the front panel i hate
@extraterrestrial#8303
i don't even see the S2 Meshify even listed at Microcenter, just the Define variant (which i see for 99.99 - still really good)

and yeah i just recently discovered gamers nexus and been watching all their videos and noticed what you mentioned about the 400 front panel

rotund drift
#

Hello

old jay
#

Hello

#

Nice pfp

granite lantern
#

Rick Astley fan, never going to give you up

old jay
#

Never gonna let you down

granite lantern
#

Never gonna turn around and hurt you

native bane
#

Never gonna make you cry

old jay
#

Never gonna sayyyy goodbye

golden kestrel
#

Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

old jay
#

We’ve known each other for so long

granite lantern
#

Your hearts been aching... But your to shy to say it

old jay
#

Inside we both know what’s been going on

granite lantern
#

We know the game and we're gonna play it

old jay
#

Annnnnd if you ask me how I’m feeling

granite lantern
#

Don't tell me your to blind to see it

old jay
#

Never gonna give you up

granite lantern
#

Never gonna let you down

fluid pine
#

never gonna run around and desert you

granite lantern
#

never gonna make you cry

#

It was a awesome song in the 80s

fluid pine
#

it still is an awesome song D:<

granite lantern
#

true very true, it will nexer let you down,lol

old jay
#

I got rickrolled yesterday by a comment on a pewdie video :3

granite lantern
#

what was that??

sharp fox
elfin trout
#

W1 eh

sharp fox
#

saw a few people on reddit say there were no issues, couldn't find too much on it

#

really tight budget

#

like im trying not to physically pay more than 15usd

elfin trout
sharp fox
#

so much for budget mobo rip

#

true

elfin trout
#

I was tryna find cx550

#

But that's a W1

#

It's just

#

Lacking afaik

#

I'll have to check ripple and everything tho

sharp fox
#

ye i don't need modular

#

ye

#

yup that's what im doing rn xD

#

ye it's taking a while tho. i just wish i could finish already. looks like so far in competitive games he will get like 120fps higher than what he used to get

elfin trout
#

Bad 12v ripple it seems

sharp fox
#

hmm

#

how bad

elfin trout
#

Not too bad

#

Just a slight downside

sharp fox
#

this is for 1600af + gtx 980

elfin trout
#

Efficiency is relatively bad but eh

#

What do you expect from a cheap psu

sharp fox
#

ya

#

lol

elfin trout
#

Nothing that'll burn up

#

Group regulated but what do you expect there

sharp fox
#

that config was not the original plan, but things change from what i could find atm for price and availability

#

lol

elfin trout
#

Lucky the dragon

green hearth
#

What's everyones thoughts on the NZXT H510 case?

scenic lance
#

its pretty good

#

but i think you can do better

#

my thoughts

elfin trout
#

Airflow bad

green hearth
#

I've been back and forth between the H510 and the Meshify C but i heard that the Meshify has dust problems.

golden kestrel
#

It comes with dust filters iirc so should be a big deal as long as you clean them every so often

elfin trout
#

What

#

How does the Meshify C have dust problems and h510 not

#

Meshify C has a mesh front

granite lantern
#

i like the looks of the be quiet 601 case , anybody got one

elfin trout
#

H510 runs a negative pressure setup that pulls air (and dust) through openings in the case like GPU bracket

#

Meshify C with some front fans is gonna best h510 any day

old jay
#

Meshify C all day

golden kestrel
#

Td500 mesh better value tho :D

elfin trout
#

ya

#

@old jay issue with meshify c is only 1 included fan

old jay
#

True, but I usually replace all case fans with noctuas or be quiet anyway

lofty pewter
#

@elfin trout thought C was two fan pre-installed

willow hollow
#

it is

#

one front one back

elfin trout
#

I mean 2

#

but close nuff

sharp bear
#

meshify c has 2

strong patio
north mural
#

pretty popular and cheap

granite lantern
#

601

strong patio
#

Can someone send me a link to a good psu 600w atx USD

eager monolith
#

Answered in build chat

#

Unless the ones I suggested won't work for some reason

scenic lance
#

Can someone help me find a good pc case , dm me

chrome iris
#

You’re gonna want to also include your budget, form factor, and the kind of looks you want btw

#

Cause if we don’t know that we’ll be kinda shooting in the dark

#

@scenic lance

scenic lance
#

Budget for case is around $100, atx and white or black. Also a case that supports a high gpu clearance with radiator. Also the radiator size is 280mm

vocal tartan
#

ill let u suggest the best case yam cuz we both know what it is

chrome iris
#

Uh I mean

#

I don’t know if we’re sharing brain waves

#

What are you thinking @vocal tartan

vocal tartan
#

td 500

#

am i right

chrome iris
#

Oh yeah lol 😝

#

@scenic lance TD 500 MESH GANG GANG

vocal tartan
#

and it comes w 3 rgb fans motah

#

great deal

elfin trout
#

Phanteks P400a :P

#

don't forget the other guy in the room

vocal tartan
#

understandable

frigid laurel
#

my phanteks neon have a yellowish tone. it wasnt like that before. anyone know a fix? they are connected to the case

urban tulip
#

Did you try pressing the RGB button on the top of the case that changes colors?

west kite
novel flax
#

@west kite it should say maximum gpu length in the description

#

but still

#

if you're getting that, you might wanna get a case that shows off your hardware

chrome iris
#

And that looks Iike it has choked airflow

novel flax
#

yes

#

but more importantly, it won't look good

#

try getting a high airflow corsair or lian li case

west kite
#

Decided to go with this

old jay
#

Now that is a nice case

novel flax
#

that's a great case- I have the exact one but not the xl @west kite

#

houses my custom loop and sli perfectly

old jay
#

@novel flax have you posted your build in #build-pics cuz that sounds sick

novel flax
#

i did, a while ago

old jay
#

Ah gotcha

granite lantern
#

im thinking of this one

#

but with the orange trim

fresh ether
#

Its out of my price range but looks good

granite lantern
#

only a little bit more, i can get thatt for £99 in the uk

#

and the usa is always cheaper

fresh ether
#

I know but im pinching pennies here

#

Trying to be around $1k

#

And still be able to play games and vr

granite lantern
#

Newegg1 good for your buget

fresh ether
#

Im just not sure if i wana go for a 2060s or RX 5700xt...

granite lantern
#

i only know nvidia cards,check youtube

#

do a 2060 vs rx 5700 search

fresh ether
#

Ill try thanks

granite lantern
#

if there close then pick the one that suits your set up best

fresh ether
#

Heard 5700 is better for gaming but the benchmarks are abit skewed in different directions

granite lantern
#

if you have amd the rx 5700 would be better

fresh ether
#

Textures load better

#

Im getting amd actually

#

3600 or 3700x

granite lantern
#

||very nive young man||

fresh ether
#

this is my first build, dont hurt

granite lantern
#

take your time and you will be ok

fresh ether
chrome iris
#

@fresh ether 5700 XT is better for gaming that 2060. 5700 non XT is pretty much equal, but 5700 non XT stock is pretty bad.

You could also get a 5700 and flash it’s bios into a 5700 XT to get better performance, but since you’re new to building idk if you’d be comfortable doing that

Also, if you want to livestream, get Nvidia instead

Between Ryzen 3600 and 3700X, I’d say just get a 3600. It won’t bottleneck and you don’t really need 3700X performance.

fresh ether
#

So i cant just hook up the card and run it the way it is?

#

I heard it gets pretty hawt

#

But i thought those were kinked out

chrome iris
#

Some do get hot, like the Asus ROG Strix version

#

The things that got kinked out are their drivers. They used to suuuuuck

fresh ether
#

Im thinking of getting the gigabyte version

#

Its a couple bucks more than the 2060s

#

From evga i was looking at

chrome iris
#

XT or no

fresh ether
#

XT

chrome iris
#

I believe that one is okay

#

I believe that one is okay

#

Oops double send

fresh ether
#

Its ok

#

But now im scared to use it

chrome iris
#

Why

fresh ether
#

Well, im confused

chrome iris
#

On what

fresh ether
#

Do i still need to refresh the bios with the older card?

chrome iris
#

Refresh bios?

#

I never said anything about that

fresh ether
#

What you said earlier sorry i mean

chrome iris
#

I said you can flash the bios of 5700 non XTs to make them perform equally to 5700 XTs. This isn’t required at all

fresh ether
#

Oh ok

chrome iris
#

Yeah 👌

fresh ether
#

Welp besides that, im just trying to find a monitor thats freesync 1440p 144hrtz and around 27 to 30 inches...

chrome iris
#

1440p 144Hz. What games are you playing?

#

I’d only think 144 FPS would be achievable in esports games, but I may not be remembering correctly

fresh ether
#

Fallout new vegas.... Lol no

chrome iris
#

Since my specialty is lower end cards

fresh ether
#

Im use to gaming at 144 since i got my laptop awhile back

chrome iris
#

New Vegas lol

#

Alright, here lemme get you a monitor

fresh ether
#

Its 1080p but i thought it would be cool to go 1440

chrome iris
#

Eh the jump from 1080 to 1440 isn’t that large but I mean it looks better

fresh ether
#

Hmmm is it really worth it?

#

I just thought it be something new

#

I thought about 4k but i dont know if i like going back to 60fps.... First world problems..

#

I know their higher refresh rates but im not trying to break the bank either

chrome iris
#

Well, you could go 1080p 240Hz, but a lot of people don’t think 240Hz is worth it either

fresh ether
#

Yeah at that point i dont think i notice

chrome iris
#

But, I say it’s up to you

#

I’ll find you a decent monitor, you look at the price, and see if you think it’s worth it

fresh ether
#

Ok thx for your help

#

Really appreciated

chrome iris
#

Here’s one of he cheapest I could find that’s 1440p, IPS, and 120-165Hz

fresh ether
#

Sadly too much for my blood

chrome iris
#

Too much monies?

fresh ether
#

blood monies

chrome iris
#

What’s your budget

#

For monitor

fresh ether
#

$300

chrome iris
#

That one’s $300?

fresh ether
#

?

chrome iris
#

Oh it’s $399 my bad

fresh ether
#

399.99

chrome iris
#

I misread as $299 :P

fresh ether
#

Oof

chrome iris
#

Okay let me get different one

fresh ether
#

I saw one that might be good

#

Ill put here in a sec

chrome iris
#

Welp there’s a lot of options at $300 but now it’s VA panel instead of IPS sadly

#

But that’s okay

#

And pretty bad response times

#

And cheap

fresh ether
#

Whats the difference between Va and IPS?

chrome iris
#

They’re panels. It’s how they display color

#

IPS is the best to most people. VA is fine though

fresh ether
#

Dont know what panel my laptop uses but im fine with that

chrome iris
#

Yee

fresh ether
#

Also that was the monitor i was gonna show u

chrome iris
#

Probably some cheapo panel

#

Oh really lol nice

chrome iris
#

That ones out of stock

fresh ether
#

I just realized that...

#

It wasnt yesterday

chrome iris
fresh ether
#

I should have bought it

chrome iris
#

So sad

fresh ether
#

Welp i either wait for another chance for it or buy 1080p again

#

If theres a really high quality 1080p panel at 144 hrtz ill get it

chrome iris
#

The one I linked is only like $20 more...

fresh ether
#

Oof

#

Ur right

#

Um actually thats sold out tooo....

chrome iris
#

Whaaaaaaa

#

t

fresh ether
#

Best buy lied

chrome iris
#

They do that sometimes 😤

#

Look through these 5

fresh ether
#

I think imma go 1080p if i cant get 1ms

#

Sorry

chrome iris
#

Why you saying sorry? Lol. It’s just personal preference

#

Let me get you a nice one

fresh ether
#

Im just super apologetic

chrome iris
#

Don’t be

#

You don’t need to be

fresh ether
#

Ok

chrome iris
#

Do you still want 27”?

#

I think 24” would be best option for 1080p but

fresh ether
#

Why do u say that?

chrome iris
#

1080p has less pixels

#

So it looks better in smaller screens

fresh ether
#

Ahh

chrome iris
#

But also at 27” the only one in stock I can find is a crappy overpriced one

fresh ether
#

Oof

#

Welp 24inch than

#

If it has freesync even better

#

I dont know if i can use g-sync

chrome iris
#

Yeah G-sync is for Nvidia

fresh ether
#

Damn them

chrome iris
#

But freesync is for AMD

#

It’s just compatibility and names

#

They both do the same thing

fresh ether
#

Oh

chrome iris
#

I can’t find any good IPS ones reeee

fresh ether
#

Maybe i should wait on the monitor...

#

For more to be available

#

I still have an old Magnavox 1080i 60hrtz monitor....

chrome iris
#

Lol

#

Could use that as a secondary

#

But yeah prices on everything are wack rn

fresh ether
#

Thats what im already doing with my laptop

chrome iris
#

Hold on I gtg I’ll be back in a while

fresh ether
#

Yeah, man i shouldve snatched the Viotek.... I was going to once some gift cards came in the mail

#

Oh ok

#

Seeyou

half meadow
#

@chrome iris freesync works for nividia now

chrome iris
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Yeah ik

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But it doesn’t always work technically

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But usually does

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But originally, freesync was for AMD and GSync was for Nvidia

golden kestrel
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originally

chrome iris
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originally

scenic lance
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so i am gonna get a NZXT H510 and i want to mount a 2070S vertically but i don't know how much clearance between the glass and the fans there will be. does anybody know?

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because i know the lian li o11 dynamic has lots of space between a verical mount gpu and the side panel

elfin trout
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@scenic lance I don't think the h510 supports vertical GPU

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The H510 elite it supports vertical GPU, as you can see the mount here

scenic lance
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@elfin trout yeah but I was gonna put my own mounting bracket in

elfin trout
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you gonna cut a hole in your case?

scenic lance
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No like one of these

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Don’t you just take out some of the slots and then put this in?

elfin trout
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not for my case at least

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for my case the red stuff stays when you take off the slots, so I can't do something like that

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not sure oh the h510

scenic lance
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Tbh I’ll probably just stick with the regular mount because I don’t want any performance drops due to messed up airflow

golden kestrel
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If airflow is a concern dont get a h510 ROFLEgg

scenic lance
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How much watts should my psu be , someone help

light wyvern
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depends

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@scenic lance

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whats the build

scenic lance
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I9 10th gen

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Rtx 2080 ti

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16 gb ram , ddr4 3600

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Nzxt 360 mm aio

elfin trout
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850w

chrome iris
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all the watts

lofty pewter
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I'd think 750w

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but havent done lots of 10900k research

elfin trout
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Extra stretching room is good to have

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It's like 750 total system draw

pulsar echo
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hi

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I'm getting a lian pc o11 dynamic case

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how much fans can I fit in there

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also I want a 360mm aio cooler

granite lantern
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you can add a 360mm cooler front or top, so i guess you could add 3 x 120mm fans aswell

pulsar echo
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kk

tropic dune
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@pulsar echo I have that case, using a 360 front/side, plus 3 on top, and there's also room for 3 more along the bottom if you remove the ssd trays

naive vigil
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I picked up an IBuyPower PC and can't see a label on the PSU. Is there a way to get the info (manufacturer, wattage and class) through software or??

vocal talon
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no but you can probably google ur pc's model number or name + psu and see if anybody knows what it is

naive vigil
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I see it came up on Best Buy's Q&A on the system as "This system comes with a 650 watt 80 Plus GOLD power supply!" Trying to verify this......

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This is a cool site and great people here! Thanks

vocal tartan
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anyone got any suggestions for a good 650w 80+ gold psu for around $100

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was looking at the cooler master one but don't know much about their psus

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can be 600 too doesn't matter

vocal tartan
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thank you

tulip sandal
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The Lian Li Dynamic is Such A great Case Honestly.

meager narwhal
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make sure to install the PSU on the insulation pads

drowsy ingot
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What's the best case I can buy I'm not looking for most expensive I'm looking for airflow I dont care about rgb no rgb and cheeper the better

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Now if it has rgb that's fine

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But if theres one that will deliver the same quality for cheeper (because no rgb) that's what I want

meager narwhal
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im not sure about no RGB but i know of a great case from cooler master the TD500 mesh case i believe its 99 bucks not sure if this is what youre wanting in price but it seems to be good (i dont have it ive just heard great things)

chrome iris
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TD 500 mesh is good

fickle herald
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Just put my system in a new case, only to discover I need a fan splitter. -cry-

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7 fans, and only 6 4-pin connections.

faint rampart
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Do I buy modular semi-modular or non modular PSU? What’s the difference between them? Please ping me with an answer because I have this server muted.

fickle herald
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Modular will give you the cleanest cable management

elfin trout
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@faint rampart do either one, semi modular just has some cables separate from the main blob of wires, making it so you can cable manage a bit, non-modular is just all the cables come in a blob, even cables you won't use, making it look more messy.

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Perf wise there's no difference

faint rampart
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So there is no more dominant one? @elfin trout

elfin trout
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Not really

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I don't like semi mod and non-mod

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It's still messy :p

vocal talon
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its just ease of installation and looks

fickle herald
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non-modular is like trying to wrestle a 9 headed hydra

elfin trout
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It's messy

faint rampart
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its just ease of installation and looks
@vocal talon Which one has the best ease of installation? Modular?

elfin trout
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Full modular

vocal talon
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^

elfin trout
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Semi modular is still messy to work with

faint rampart
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Alright

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Thanks guys!

elfin trout
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Yw

plucky citrus
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do any of you guys know any good case for under $100 dollers

elfin trout
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TD500 mesh white

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Amazing case with RGB at 100$

slim venture
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^^^

elfin trout
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Cheaper than that you have P300a at the 70$ or so range

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Focus g at 60$

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Mx330-g at 55$

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And any lower is iffy

fickle herald
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I was torn between the td500 and the 220t

plucky citrus
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thank you

slim venture
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td500

elfin trout
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Td500 mesh all the way

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Great airflow great looks

fickle herald
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I went with the 220t hehe

elfin trout
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Is okay

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Both good cases

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Just one that's superior

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Imo 220t airflow front panel is ugly

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But td500 mesh front panel is sexy

fickle herald
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I got the rgb version, didn't like the airflow either

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I also don't have the front glass on, so it pulls more air.

elfin trout
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Just td500 mesh front panel lets rgb through and still does a great job with airflow while still functioning as a dust filter

fickle herald
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I've got the dust filter on still, just not the tempered panel.

elfin trout
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I like td500 mesh too much lol

fickle herald
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The airflow version looked like it was horrible for airflow, ironically

elfin trout
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I dunno why they did how they did it tbh

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Cut some holes in a solid panel

fickle herald
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I might get one to play with.

elfin trout
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But still leave half of the panel

fickle herald
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should be called the 220t noflow

elfin trout
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It also isn't symmetrical xd

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Mesh is the way to go for future cases imo

quartz pecan
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Best cheap psu to run 1080 to and r5 3600