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#cases-psu-and-cooling
round pike
You can donate. People like it when you do that
slim venture
true
half meadow
My windows ten pro key was fre
scenic lance
I just bought my evga 650 from Newegg turned it on works but the fan or PSU is making some weird grinding noise like the old hard drives used to make when loading a file...
Any idea?
gotta put sound up a bit. i checked all the fans stopped them one by one and sound is still doing it.. it's not gfx card i tried unplugging it
so my idea is CPU cooler the pump or the psu, but doesn't sound like anything is comingfrom pump
scenic lance
probably a bad bearing or somehing rubbing against the fan blades
deep forum
lofty pewter
decent quality PSU, but not really a decent 1200w one
deep forum
compact one tho
lofty pewter
Dont know what true mini ITX case that has enough room for two 2080Tis and a large enough fan grill for a very well cooled OCed 3990x there is as I really doubt that'd exist. As small PSUs really in come in handy with actually small cases and you'd need an OCed 3990x+dual 2080Ti to need a 1200w
drowsy orbit
Who would ever want a mini case
willow hollow
vocal talon
@lofty pewter https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus_x/
vocal talon
eatx, 2x 240 rad support, atx psu, quad gpu setup
lofty pewter
thing is tho
vocal talon
what about that
lofty pewter
meaning that the "compact" part of the PSU isnt really a selling point
vocal talon
i was just showing that itx cases can support stuff like that :v
and its still under 20L, not even half as big as an atx case like the meshify c
lofty pewter
I know that cases support small PSUs and it's easy to find brackets for them to fit ATX ones. But the main issue I seen was that where are you going to need a small 1200w while standard size is too big?
vocal talon
tru
plush willow
I am trying to build a pc with the NZXT h500 case and I can’t find it anywhere in stock. Is it still being sold?
pure path
i did my current build with the 510i
plush willow
I want the 500 because of the two USB ports not on usb and usb c port
pure path
amazon has it for 150
plush willow
Is the usb c port to big of a problem for you on the 510i
pure path
i have no use for it atm
plush willow
Ok thank you
pure path
with the 1 usb on top of the tower and the like, idk, 6+ on my mobo, i dont need anymore
and it cost 50 bucks less on newegg for what i got...so ya
plush willow
Oh I forgot the usb on the motherboard
pure path
happens
plush willow
Yep
inland sonnet
anyone know of an adapter for rgb that will convert 5 pin to a 4 pin, i need a female 4 pin and male 5 pin. and will that even work
sharp fox
what fans are they?
elfin trout
Isn't 5pin argb?
inland sonnet
its a coolmaster rgb fans
sharp fox
that's what im thinking but im not great with fan stuff ¯_(ツ)_/¯
eager monolith
@inland sonnet I can help you if you can get a pinout for the RGB cable
I can tell you if you can do it and I can probably find the parts for you too
inland pewter
does anyone know of any cheap white mid-tower cases ?
golden kestrel
Define cheap
inland pewter
under $101
golden kestrel
Td500 mesh >:D
slim venture
@inland pewter CoolerMaster TD 500 Mesh, Lian Li LanCool II, be quiet! Pure Base 500DX
these were all the cases i was considering when i was building my rig
i ended up going with the coolermaster only due to stock
i like the other two just because they're different
soft gorge
I'm getting the cooler master one actually, was wondering if the Noctua NF-F12 fits? (it wasn't listed on PCpartpicker)
tropic dune
my roommate and i built his in the LanCool II, love working on that PC b/c of the case
i went w/ the O11 Dynamic White myself lol
summer jasper
i love be quiet cases. rockin their silent base 801 for a year now
soft gorge
I have 2 be quiet fans in my case, for the front
summer jasper
silent wings?
soft gorge
pure wings 2 140mm
soft gorge
Yeah, since my order changed from coming next month to this friday for the case, I was looking into a 120mm fan for the rear spot
minor portalBOT
Arena DJ#1577 has been warned
summer jasper
oops
ordered a cpu and mobo and did overnight shipping this morning.. probably shouldn't have done the overnight during protest/riots in cali where my stuff is coming from
lol
radiant void
What the heck is going on with ordering power supplies? I’ve been trying to find a good one for 3 weeks that’s in stock and isn’t a price gouge?
lofty pewter
shipping
most of it is prioritized to essential supplies so ships barely contain any PSUs anymore
solemn trench
Heya Fam, if my build is telling me I need 543w to run my system would I be ok using a 600w psu for that build till other things become available for purchase at a non gougy price?
lofty pewter
Well stock 3950x+2080Ti can run off a 550w
radiant void
@lofty pewter I see. Thank you.
lofty pewter
so idk what parts you have, but anything more then 550w is fine for just about anyone
lofty pewter
yeah, tbh that'd be fine with a 450w tho I wouldnt recommend it
Also CM Elite V3 isnt really that good
and by not that good I mean really bad
solemn trench
yeah thats not the one I was looking at
solemn trench
theres an EVGA 600w 100-W1-0600-K1 that im looking at
lofty pewter
Also quite bad
solemn trench
heres the thing
radiant void
With that level of investment I’m curious why you’re not using nvme ssd?
@solemn trench
solemn trench
I dont really have a budget but I refuse to pay gouged prices atm thats why im lookin at the 600w cuz they arent gouged so hard atm
lofty pewter
It's an older build with some newer parts
solemn trench
I want a nice 750 that I can get mod cables for but im waiting for pricing to get better
lofty pewter
So a slow investment over time it isnt too surprising to see that
radiant void
Yeah the psu thing is killing me too
solemn trench
im upgrading to 3080 ti when it releases and just wanted to have headroom
radiant void
I have almost 4000 dollars worth of hardware sitting here waiting to be built but for my lack of a psu at the moment -_-
lofty pewter
0.001% of it taking 450w
All highest end GPUs since dual GPUs on one PCB died have stayed at 300w/375w peak power usage
780Ti, 980Ti, 1080Ti, 2080Ti
radiant void
I have an rtx 2080ti that is recommending I use a 650 minimum..
lofty pewter
because Nvidia doesnt know the quality of PSU or CPU
For all they know you have an OCed 3990x pulling 400w
or a 3300x pulling like 60w
solemn trench
so the thinking is that I would probably still be safe for the 3080 ti with a 650w then?
radiant void
Hmm
lofty pewter
Here is a pcpp list, use it for the PSU filter
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/HeiKun/saved/#view=6THmkL
radiant void
Crap this changes things.
lofty pewter
I highly doubt the 3080Ti will be a failure in power consumption like the GTX 480 was
radiant void
Oh m g. A psu that’s in stock!
solemn trench
man 130 for a 650w yikes
lofty pewter
If you want to save a bit of money for a louder PSU, look at the two cheapest pcpp build options
600/700 and 800/900
radiant void
Yeah, that’s the other issue.
I’ve invested significantly into this build to be dead quiet despite cooling.
lofty pewter
yeah, then Antec NeoEco Gold Zen isnt ideal for that. Sad because it is so good quality wise except for fan
XPG Core is basically cheapest option rn for decent PSU
solemn trench
are the Seasonic S12III 650 SSR-650GB3 decent at all with that warranty of 5 years?
found one for like 80 bucks
lofty pewter
They are eh
dont think much better then NE Zen
or worse
lower wattage S12III suck tho
in general I think it might be worse actually
solemn trench
im hoping EVGA G5 is better?
scenic lance
How do I know what kind of PSU I can put in a system
eager monolith
Look up the estimated wattage of your system, add a little headroom... Then look at the PSU tier list pinned in #building-and-recc-chat. I would go for anything lower than c tier
Add extra headroom if you want to OC or upgrade to like a dual card system in the future. Buy your selected model at the wattage you determined.
Make sure you get a PSU that will fit, tho Atx is the standard and works pretty much everywhere but ultra small form factor pc
scenic lance
My PC too small lol it's pretty obsolete
It can only have low profile GPUs I believe
Is the HP 8200 sff a ultra sff pc?
slim venture
@inland pewter the pure base 500DX is back in stock
kindred atlas
can anyone find a psu that is 850w gold or platinum certified?
i cant find any, anywhere
chrome iris
I guess if you wanted more wattage and to spend more...
Best buy looks like it has this one in store ^
chrome iris
np
sick elbow
Looking for a 450 watt power supply deals!
chrome iris
Corsair CX450
Best 450w PSU
i mean not really i dont think but very good price to performance
this one pretty okay
lofty pewter
@kindred atlas Have an SLI system? Or a 3990x OCed or smth? If not then why 850w?
@solemn trench G5 is quite meh. Not worth the money
distant dagger
Would someone be able to help me determine the wattage psu I should get for my build plz. I just dont know what I should get
distant dagger
Ryzen 5 3600 and a rtx 2060
250 max
lofty pewter
Only really need to spend like $96 or smth then
unless PSU is out of stock will post link in sec
lofty pewter
Can you get this? Says it requires special handling for me and cant be shipped
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z8J1973?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
Which is probs dependent on location
distant dagger
Can't get it, says same thing about special handling
distant dagger
I mean I just need to know the minimum wattage I could go with, I can find one
I wish I had a microcenter nearby
lofty pewter
finding a local store that's open might be a good idea if you can
Then can take a look through their stock
distant dagger
The best thing I have nearby is best buy
vocal tree
there's one Microcenter in California
distant dagger
Theres a couple in New York but non of which are near me
I mean ebay and Amazon haven't been too bad. The price gouging thats going on is insane tho
So 650 would be the lowest I could go?
lofty pewter
550 is fine
but rarely a good 550 in stock
technically 450w is fine. But kinda limiting in upgrading
distant dagger
You got that based off just cpu gpu? Don't you need like ssd hdd ram m.2 and other stuff
lofty pewter
Well, unless you have 5 HDDs and already at the "max average recommended PC" then you dont need to consider the other stuff a whole lot. Such as 550w being able to run stock 3950x+2080Ti+1x SSD+1x HDD+2x RAM DIMMs+couple of fans
distant dagger
Alright. Basically all I'm running is that 3600, a 2060, 1 hdd, 2 m.2, 2 ram dimms, a air cpu cooler and 5 fans
lofty pewter
On average the rest of the PC stuff is like 70w - 90w
distant dagger
Awesome so I don't need a 7-750
lofty pewter
not even close
your "rest of system" peak is closer to like 85w or so. CPU is 95w peak and GPU I think is 225w peak
distant dagger
I was seeing on newegg that the 2060 im getting is recommended with a minimum 500w psu
lofty pewter
well it's cuz they dont know anything else about the PC. For all they know you have an OCed 3950x or smth
lofty pewter
Also because some PSUs are quite sucky. For example a good PSU can very easily run 10% overload (550w running at 600w) no problems but a bad PSU wont
distant dagger
Recommend any specific brand psu?
I was looking at either evga or silverstone
lofty pewter
but yeah I'd go for 550w+. Tho I havent seen any 550w in stock for a while so idk. Mostly 600-750 is what I see
As for brand... No. You can never go by brand as all brands make good and bad products
distant dagger
Ahh
distant dagger
I wasn't going soley off brand name I was more looking for which has a good reputation for being reliable
lofty pewter
I mean... Other then Wentai which I think literally only has one PSU... Which ends up being one of the best PSUs in the world
Eh, all the name brands has a good reputation for being reliable I guess... For the general mass at least. Tho for any of the name brands there are def a few models that are either not great or outright terrible
distant dagger
Alright
Thanks a bunch
One more thing. Should I go high efficiency like platinum or titanium if budget allows or should gold be sufficient
lofty pewter
efficiency is a small concern. Actual PSU quality comes first
distant dagger
Ok
lofty pewter
probs tell me the options when you get to see them all
distant dagger
Ok thx
EVGA 550 B5, 80 Plus Bronze 550W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 5 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-B5-0550-V1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084RGH8W4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_0X11EbA8NV0HW
lofty pewter
B5 is potentially good. But no actual info on it so it's mostly just guessing. Thus I cant really recommend it
lofty pewter
Seasonic one isnt ideal and Raidmax one couldnt see much on it. Have doubts on it being good due to Raidmax's reputation
As for one I did find:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077GCHN1F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
seems to be available to me
lofty pewter
None personally. But is well regarded with actual PSU perf. Which to go into that a bit more detail wise that'd be: Voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, included protections and whether they work, cap quality, noise (fan/coil whine), fan quality, efficiency, and some other stuff
distant dagger
So really good quality
I can vibe with that lol
Now the question is do I pay 95 with free shipping and get it sooner or save 20 and pay 75 with prime shipping but wait about a week longer for them to restock
lofty pewter
Lol. well, which ever works.
Tho, knowing other PSUs I wouldnt say "really good quality". But more or less "good quality"
distant dagger
Ahh alright
coral thorn
anyone know if 1660 super and ryzen 5 3600 are good with TTsmart 600 watt?
golden kestrel
I don't recommend a tt smart for any system. Try to find a Corsair cx500
lofty pewter
Tho I mean, CX is basically OOS 24/7 tho
golden kestrel
It is pretty hard to find. Do you have a different recommendation tho lol?
lofty pewter
think cheapest in stock was Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550w or smth for 86/96
rough olive
Anyone here rocking a XPG core reactor 650w? wondering what your 12v rail voltages hang at.
Mine fluctuates between 12.01 and 11.89 under load... i get a rare dip to 11.85.
lofty pewter
1.25% deviation is perfectly fine. ATX Spec for PSUs has max deviation being 5% for any rail. Also note mobo accuracy isnt super accurate and not too well to go off of when comparing numbers.
scenic lance
even here aswell?
inland pewter
is $95 too much for the corsair cx650m psu?
golden kestrel
That's not an amazing price and I wouldn't get that psu in general because it tends to have coil whine
inland pewter
gotcha ty
coral thorn
Any particular reason why TT PSUs aren’t that good?
vocal tree
Thermaltake Smart is dumb
coral thorn
Why is that?
coral thorn
vocal tree
I know that much
coral thorn
bruh
Welp it’s too late
I ordered the 600watt smart good rated one
gold*
Why would the PSU make my pc explode or something?
vocal tree
probably not
coral thorn
then I’m fine no?
vocal tree
I think iirc there are some TT Smart models that do that under certain circumstances
coral thorn
bruh
But that can also be said about other ones too
From other companies
unless I’m wrong
clear swallow
i run a thermaltake psu, but i have the toughpower grand 650
coral thorn
Interesting
clear swallow
which has rated pretty well
clear swallow
the LTT forums keeps a tier list for PSU's
with ratings and color coding and all that
soft gorge
I think my PSU is a RM750x from corsair
It's pretty nice
My buddy has the same one as me, but in white and it looks much nicer
golden kestrel
I have the white one too
slim venture
@inland pewter the be quiet im assuming??
oblique lark
The Be Quiet 500DX seems great.. I should have one at my door in another day 🙂
inland pewter
yes the 500dx
round pike
Opinions on evga br? Already checked the pins
inland pewter
there’s a micro center by me so that was convenient
lofty pewter
@round pike seems to be more bottom of barrel PSU that should only be for very cheap systems like sub 600 or less. At the 600-ish range you can get fair bit better PSUs on average. Tho stock issues are fun so not always
No true info in it but suspected perf of it isnt that ideal
round pike
Okay I heard rumors of them failing and several systems at my work place used them, so just wanted to check
lofty pewter
I never really heard much about failing tho. So idk about that
round pike
Cool, okay
scenic lance
Haven't either.
lofty pewter
Probs take a deep dive through amazon/newegg reviews and find the legitimate 1/2 stars
round pike
I love reading 1 star reviews
scenic lance
It can certainly be amusing.
round pike
This power supply doesn't plug into my mac book air. It has so amany weird connectors I've never even seen before? Why do they even make this product?!?!?!?!! I've contacted the manager about this!!!!!!!!!!!
- Karen
scenic lance
It can also make you question how some people manage to not die every day.
round pike
There are days when I question that. I think there have been two that I haven't
steady walrus
New to building a pc. What is a good airflow case? (tbh if you ask me what else I am looking for I probaly will not know). Preferably atx(this is the most common right?) and does not need rgb.
valid elk
highly-regarded cases for this are all over the place in terms of price, but there's the venerable Meshify C on the cheaper end and the CM H500P Mesh for a bit more
elfin trout
Phanteks P400a, Coolermaster TD500 mesh, Coolermaster H500 (no suffix), and Meshify C are all good cases near the 100$ price range.
@steady walrus
knotty blade
@steady walrus
Hardware Canucks has a good review of the Be Quiet! Pure Base 500. Non Windowed is $80 and Tempered Glass is $90 in Canadian Prices. There's also the New Pure Base 500DX that I just love. That's a bit more pricey though at $125.
oblique lark
The DX is 100$ US everywhere I’ve seen it. And it actually has frontal airflow. I wouldn’t touch the regular 500 with a 10 foot pole
knotty blade
Regular 500 would probably be okay with a couple more fans. Before DX came along I was gonna go with the Regular 500
it was a good budget case I liked
golden kestrel
Wow
vocal tree
;o
soft gorge
I actually had very much considered the phantek p400a but wasn't sure due to reviews
steady walrus
Thanks for the recommendations guys. Will watch some reviews for each case
elfin trout
RM
golden kestrel
Refurbished tho
golden kestrel
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wraith mountain
@elfin trout what reasons to go corsair trather than evga
golden kestrel
I dont like refurbished psu's but I prefer rm outta those options
elfin trout
RM>B5 in quality
wraith mountain
and how would that help?
golden kestrel
Which psu did hei say was better, rmx or rm?
elfin trout
RMx
RMx has Japanese caps, RM doesn't
but thats about it
RM is still a great psu
only other difference I think is the fan
golden kestrel
elfin trout
but not really any differences between RMx and RM
elfin trout
yeye
wraith mountain
that over this? https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-B5-0850-V1
golden kestrel
I got one direct from corsair a week ago. Just need to check often
vocal talon
rmx has a longer name therefore better
elfin trout
AND IT HAS A X IN IT
BEST PSU EVER
but seriously rmx is like one of the best consumer units
steady walrus
What do you often lose when buying cheaper cases?
elfin trout
airflow
screws
and creature comforts while building :P
(build quality in general)
steady walrus
So when picking a power supply what should I be looking for?
elfin trout
Easy way : consult this
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
Hard way, learn everything about PSUs and look at reviews
sour loom
Hey i need a good psu around 430-500 Watts. For around $40-$50
Preferebly one that i can find in stores (Microcenter)
elfin trout
I havn't even seen any PSU under 50 in a while :P
elfin trout
oh wait
the power spec ones might actually be alright
yea alright this is an option @sour loom
https://www.microcenter.com/product/485311/powerspec-550-watt-80-plus-bronze-atx-non-modular-power-supply
it's a decent option
55$
Tier C PSU
elfin trout
alright that would've been nice to know
micro center has stock by stores
and for some reason I had the chicago store selected
I mean power supplies in general....
big oof
@sour loom it has to be in store pickup?
elfin trout
where are you
this is the only decent PSU at that price range I can find right now
elfin trout
?
elfin trout
the heck
sour loom
Apevia
round pike
Apevia I think
elfin trout
the heck is that psu
um
no reviews not on list
I guess if it works so far, it might be fine?
sour loom
On Amazon’s
round pike
I've never seen it either
round pike
LTT forum is saying they don't like it, but you know
elfin trout
usually prebuilts have at least recognisable PSUs yaknow
round pike
A lot of prebuilts I've seen have rando psu's
sour loom
Yeah
elfin trout
theres only 1 listing for apevia on the tier list, and it aint what you have
sour loom
I’ll just use this
elfin trout
@round pike it's either recognizable, or silver box with no labels
elfin trout
not many times where its a consumer PSU that you can buy, but still not recognizable or reviewed
elfin trout
this might be the first time a PSU I've encountered that isn't OEM isn't on the tier list :P
round pike
My case just started clicking
elfin trout
HDD?
round pike
Ummm
elfin trout
or like fan hitting things clicking
round pike
Don't think so.... It sound like a bug
round pike
Dead fly in the exhaust fan
elfin trout
lolol
golden kestrel
round pike
The fly or the psu?
elfin trout
Forky
young zodiac
My buddy gave me a GameMax psu for free and I tried it out on a old PC that I do not use it blew it up in 2 hours and the PSU makes a horrible transformer sound
lime fog
H no
young zodiac
It was pretty funny how untiered psus just go boom
soft gorge
I still have my spare semi modular 600w silver EVGA psu
Also my TD500 mesh white came in, everything looks fine so far
I have the RMx750 from corsair myself, I had upgraded cause I thought something was wrong, nope, turns out everything was fine and I had never heard a full size GPU run full speed before. I felt really dumb
half meadow
@soft gorge do you mean the fans?
soft gorge
🤷♂️ either way, got a pretty good psu
lofty turret
ok
slim venture
lmao
covert drift
i have a dumb question. i have a 3vga 750w psu does it matter witch power vga 1 or vga 2 out psu i connect to the 6 pin and then the 8 pin on my 1080ti? im switching out my 1080 for 1080ti. i have two gaming computers one backup and want to switch the cards
wraith mountain
clear swallow
i have the 650W version of that and it's been fine
the toughpower grand series is pretty solid
just stay away from thermaltake smart
rose shuttle
realizes my psu is a thermatake smart
rose shuttle
ok im fine since my original build was under 300
prob should replace soonish though
wraith mountain
@clear swallow so you have this exact psu but in 650w? https://www.altex.com/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-750w-gold-fully-modular
clear swallow
yep
wraith mountain
how long have you used it?
wraith mountain
no issues whatsoever?
clear swallow
zero
wraith mountain
hows the rgb?
clear swallow
you can't see it in my case lol, but i needed something in an emergency and it was on sale at the time
and then i ended up building a new system like a week or two later
wraith mountain
oh lol
clear swallow
and just kept it
i have it in a thermaltake mini-itx case
so the rgb is basically hidden
wraith mountain
i noticed the pcie connectors are red, how visible is it/how bad does it look?
clear swallow
in my case it's not visible at all, but if you were doing a normal tower case, i'd probably get a sleeved extension
unless your GPU has red to go with it
in which case it might look alright
wraith mountain
ah its that bad?
clear swallow
i mean, it's just a black cable with a bright red connector on the end
so if you don't have a lot of red in your build, it'll stand out
wraith mountain
it shouldnbt be too visible behid the atx power though right?
clear swallow
if you're running it to your GPU and you have a side window, it'll be front and center
wraith mountain
ooh dang
clear swallow
but it just depends on your case layout
clear swallow
mine is completely hidden because i have this tiny cube of a case
wraith mountain
oh nice
clear swallow
if that's the only thing you want to hide, you can get a custom sleeved extension for like..10-15 bucks or something
https://mainframecustom.com/shop/custom-pc-cables/custom-sleeved-extensions/8pin-pci-e-extension/ like that
and you can pick the colors
wraith mountain
could i just wrap it in electrical tape?
eager monolith
I like Cablemod personally
wraith mountain
ill just ssee how it looks
eager monolith
Fair 🙂
clear swallow
mainly just for an example of a sleeved cable
wraith mountain
cuz i have pink in my buils so maybe that could pass as red? 😂
clear swallow
get a custom pink extension 😛
wraith mountain
oooh yea
clear swallow
with black connectors
if you're really going for a themed color build, custom extensions will really tie everything together
if i had a different case, i'd do that, but i went for form factor over bling
wraith mountain
yeah im thinking about doing that but id like to be flexible with colors
clear swallow
i have the https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/core-v1.html
and i have my USB audio interface sitting on the top window
so you can't see anything inside the case anyway
wraith mountain
oh noice
clear swallow
i do wish i had gotten an sfx psu, but when i had my last one fail, it was still in my full tower build, so i needed a full atx psu
so it was easier to just keep the thermaltake one and put it in the new build
wraith mountain
i can only fit atx
wraith mountain
im just gonna post this again if anyone wants to take a look at it
this is what i might gert
wraith mountain
this a good buy?
tall basin
Rgb wowww
wraith mountain
its all they got in stock bro
north spade
rgb psu 
wraith mountain
i just wanna know if it will fail on me or sum
tall basin
Prob not
wraith mountain
i wanna know if its good
open gate
Thermaltake has a good reputation
wraith mountain
yayyy
open gate
I would do it
wraith mountain
sweet
north spade
didnt your rosewill psu fail?
wraith mountain
yeah, its because there was plastic in the pcie connector ._.
thank god my gpu is fine
somehow
north spade
ouch
wraith mountain
😭
native pier
Is aerocools aero one mini eclipse a good case?
Seems like a pretty good deal but it seems almost too cheap
eager monolith
Haven't heard of that brand before. Check reviews. Check GamersNexus to see if they have tested it, they do great in-depth case reviews
User reviews can generally tell you enough about quality and easy of use if you are on a site like Amazon (one where the seller can't just remove negative reviews) and don't want the very best cooling
vocal talon
doesnt look terrible https://www.techpowerup.com/review/aerocool-aero-one-eclipse-atx-case/7.html but the fan connectors could be annoying
native pier
Yeah idk I'll wait for reviews I guess
obsidian birch
I got a Musetex pc case from Amazon
echo socket
I moved to france a couple weeks ago and brought my Klipsch KSW-10 sub with me. Looking online, some sites claim it supports the EU voltage while others only list 110V.
And on the sub itself, I see conflicting info..
It does have speaker wire input, but IDK if it works without plugging in the power cord too..
small owl
Anyone suggest a good power supply company? Looking for a 850watt
golden kestrel
Corsair rmx if you can find one in stock
elfin trout
@small owl can't choose just for the company, the model matters.
But Corsair RMx is one of the best non-HEDT single rail PSUs
golden kestrel
Whats the different between single and multi rail psu?
elfin trout
Usually just wattage
lofty pewter
how clean the power is and I think increased lifespan with multi rail
golden kestrel
Which is better?
lofty pewter
generally good multi rail. Tho of course bad multi rail is worse then good single
golden kestrel
Ok makes sense
elfin trout
@lofty pewter Isn't multi rail solely on higher wattages?
also I think how clean the power is doesn't depend on multi rail, just the platform
lofty pewter
iirc BeQuiet Straight Power 11 Plat is multi rail and goes down to 550w
I'd also take a guess that multi rail at least helps with load regulation. Maybe 12v ripple
it does help with power cleanliness based on my understanding. To what exact degree going from single rail to multi rail with keeping as much as you can elsewhere the same you'd gain in PSU perf, idk
soft gorge
EVGA or corsair are good, seasonic too @small owl
Also my TD500 mesh white came in thursday
small owl
I’m ordering the TD500 mesh ASAP.
soft gorge
White or black?
Also it does come with a glass panel on the side, everything seems undamaged
soft gorge
I need to get around to putting stuff in the new case, probably going to tonight
slim venture
W
tough peak
Anyone ever buy psus from aliexpress?
glacial needle
i would not. you wanna get a good psu cause a bad one can destroy components in your pc if it does something wrong. Reference the LTT PSU Tier List to find a good one
light wyvern
@golden kestrel can u send me pic in dm on the td500
vocal tree
ah yes, I too enjoy purchasing incendiary bombs
elfin trout
Rm650 might be in stock
chrome iris
750w seems like a lot @distant jetty
distant jetty
@elfin trout can't order from corsair
elfin trout
why?
distant jetty
I fill out info and it won't let me place order
oblique lark
Rmx was up for preorder today on amazon
low jolt
Anyone know the best 650w gold psu under 150 USD
elfin trout
RMx 650w
scenic lance
Thanks
wind herald
i've been eyeing the Phantek's 719 case but cant help but wonder if vertical mounting gpu's in sli is possible in this case with a vertical mounting bracket
scenic lance
scenic lance
Recommendations for psus anyone?
soft gorge
I have the rm750x and that's been working out for me, fully modular. Also had this 600w silver rated evga one but it wasn't modular
Both good
Still in the middle of transferring stuff to my TD500 mesh
clear swallow
i have a thermaltake toughpower grand 650 and it's been fine, i don't do heavy OC'ing or anything
fully modular as well
soft gorge
I don't OC anything either
@golden kestrel You happen to have a ssd in one of the spots behind the mobo? If so how do you mount it?
golden kestrel
Yes I do, there should be these little rubber circles that you push into the 4 holes in the back. Then you Take 4 little ssd standoffs from your bag of screws and twist them into the holes on the ssd. Then just push the standoffs into the rubber holes. The manual should identify which pieces to use. @soft gorge
sour loom
Can someone help me install a io shield
novel flax
I would but corona virus lmao
novel flax
lmao send pics of ur issue
sour loom
IDK
novel flax
what mobo are you using?
novel flax
not rlly but it looks ugly without one lmao
sour loom
Too bad lol
scenic lance
They can be little bastards to get in sometimes.
alpine fox
It kind of looks like you put it in the wrong way
scenic lance
install from the inside, pushing outward. pushing on opposite corners can help, sometimes.
mild kettle
what psu should i get
should i get a gold, plat or tit
and what wattage
i know that depends on the system but i heard that 850 watt is good
golden kestrel
What system are you trying to power because 850w is almost never needed
golden kestrel
You can run a 3950x and a 2080ti off a good 500w
So i9 and 208ti...
Id look for a rm750x
golden kestrel
And if a rm850x is in stock you might as well get that
golden kestrel
I don't recommend brands as a whole because they all have their poor models
mild kettle
oh nice i pick an rm 850x 850 watt
CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x CP-9020180-NA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
thats what i was looking for
golden kestrel
750 is fine but thats as low as I would go
mild kettle
and another question
do i need to get a platinum or titanium
or can i just stick with gold
mild kettle
ok
golden kestrel
The rmx is one of the best consumer psu's on the market atm
golden kestrel
Which one?
mild kettle
it doesent say that on the screen
golden kestrel
Then you should be fine
golden kestrel
golden kestrel
Ya, that's a good price for a 850
mild kettle
ok
how do i know if all my parts will fit in a case
i am looking for a corsair case
iCUE 220T RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case this is the one i like
like i am getting a an atx motherboard and one gpu one cooler
well a cooler with 2 fans
and 2x8 ram
one psu
and yeah
should i get mid or full tower considering these specs
and its water cooling
scenic lance
It'll fit
magic haven
Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
is that psu good
cuz it's cheap
scenic lance
I'd go with corsair rmx
mild kettle
do i need to get fans
mild kettle
what if the case already comes with fans do i need to get fans for the back
scenic lance
Reliability for the RMx
The case will come with three. You can move them around as needed or get more. You'll have 2 with the cooler also. I'm actually using the same case for my next build.
scenic lance
Sort of personal preference. Front in, top and rear out. I usually try to keep it pretty even.
soft gorge
Which case is this in question?
distant jetty
Any good power supplys in stock gold rating
golden kestrel
Rm750 is in stock atm
lofty pewter
cheaper option is Antec NeoEco Zen for $75
wait nvm
in stock for pcpp but not Newegg
elfin trout
Ye pcpp wacky sometimes
soft gorge
Rm750x all the way
scenic lance
It's been getting worse for me lately
soft gorge
What's wrong friend?
I'm still in the middle of swapping parts, I'm not used to this kind of thing
scenic lance
PCPP gets worse ever4y day. It's horrible at this point. If I actually blindly bought what it recommended i'd overspend by over $1,000 on my current build.
NE had the MB for $600 yet it ws showing Amazon as the best option at nearly $1,500
lofty pewter
pcpp just doesnt like lots of stock changes. With only showing the limited options it shows that pcpp doesnt really give much on said limited/unpopular options.
scenic lance
But when you can manual change it, you'd think it would be able to auto-detect it.
soft gorge
I don't use it much anymore
distant jetty
Rmx850x any good?
scenic lance
Should do
scenic lance
any good 700 or 650 watt gold psu that is in stock?
lofty pewter
RM(x) not in stock? Should be cheaper and better.
scenic lance
does anyone have bad experience with rm?
final eagle
does anyone know if they sell cables for the CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W?
scenic lance
i currently have a faulty cx psu
glacial needle
i assume you are talking about corsair psu?
the RM seems to be high tiered with the lowest tier being tier B which is good. you can check for the specific PSU on the tier list to see where it falls https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
scenic lance
Do I dare look up my NZXT Hale 90 V2? lol ... trying to get rid of the thing.
glacial needle
i dont see it on there but the 2 psus by nzxt available on there are both tier A so thats good at least
i wasn't aware they had psus
scenic lance
Found the legacy list, but it only shows the Hale 82, which is still tier A, so I'm assuming the Hale 90 would be at least A or S.
glacial needle
maybe. but you never know 🤷♂️ id assume its at least good tho
scenic lance
Full Japanese capacitors and etc, so ... one would hope.
lofty pewter
Well, I mean you can look at EVGA with their older PSUs being better then newer
NZXT gives good track record at least
scenic lance
They have a horrible record with me. 4 years of them constantly replacing the electronics and fans in the case I bought. Dealt with everyone up to the CEO.
lofty pewter
just looking at it now. No OCP. But at least can theoretically do OVP+OPP for technically OCP
wait maybe
this damn review made a mistake
scenic lance
I mean, it is the one part in the system that they haven't had to replace yet, so that's a good sign. In theory.
lofty pewter
scenic lance
I should be careful what I say about it, it's out of warranty and close enough to hear me. lol
Whoops! Website says Full protections for over voltage, current, power, temperature, under voltage, and short circuit protection
lofty pewter
paper specs are good at least
elfin trout
weird
scenic lance
I';m curious who actually made it. Cause based on the rest of the electrical components I've got from them ... I doubt IT was made by them.
elfin trout
Well Hei some PSUs list protections they don't have, and have protections they don't list :P
lofty pewter
well it doesnt feel like what tier A was. Seems kinda loud and perfs a bit less then what i remember tier A being. But idk how to exactly fit a PSU in a tier. Seems B+ or A
provided all protections are there
scenic lance
So it looks like it's an FSP. Mine has always been quiet, quieter then ones I've seen in reviews.
lofty pewter
I mean it was the higher wattage model
pretty sure tier A is usually 40 dBA at max load
cuz I mean, do you really push 500w+?
scenic lance
Going through the reviews it looks like it was pretty hit or miss. FSP didn't have the best quality control on them.
Not sure what I'm at right now, actually. Lemme see
scenic lance
System base right now is 383ish (based on pcpp, which is not always the best at wattage)
lofty pewter
yeah I dont think you'll be pushing much more then 400w
scenic lance
Ram is at 2133, and it's running at 4.5 instead of 3.4 but that's not really going to change anything much. It's old and low power. lol
Only reason I ended up with an 850w PSU is it was on sale with the case.
lofty pewter
I mean, quite a fine PSU except for noise in high loads
which isnt an issue for you
soft gorge
@golden kestrel What do I plug this argb thing into for the case
elfin trout
Argb motherboard header
tacit wren
Plug it into sata power on the psu
soft gorge
From the case to the psu?
flat eagle
novel flax
what do u guys think of the lian li o11d razer edition? 160 on b&h photo
golden kestrel
Ya, that's a rgb controller. If you dont have a 5v argb header on your motherboard, you plug it into that switch, and the switch gets power via sata. Sorry for the late response @soft gorge
scenic lance
What's a good psu to buy I'm looking recommendations for 650w 80+ etc......
novel flax
get anything from a reliable brand, @scenic lance , evga, thermaltake, cooler master, corsair, etc. then decide on which one you want based on if u want modular, rgb, fanless, that kinda thing
scenic lance
Ight thanks
glacial needle
no wait
scenic lance
👀
glacial needle
not all of those brands are entirely reliable. they have some good and some bad. you can reference the psu tier list here https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
i would go with anything tier B and above
scenic lance
I see
glacial needle
tier D and E psus which includes some psus fro mmost of those brands can be potentially catastrophic to your build if they go wrong. you wanna be safe
glacial needle
yes that is good
i love evga but they do have some bad ones too so you gotta be careful. i got a 650 g1+ lol
scenic lance
Seems like the scariest part to buy in a build is the psu
The bringer of like and the taker lol
Life*
@novel flax
@glacial needle
Thanks for your input.
novel flax
np
glacial needle
its not so scary you just wanna make sure you get good parts lol
scenic lance
Well the link I posted I'm gonna put it in my cart
Fingers super crossed
Total cost of remaining parts for my build
$825.97
And my budget was 600 😋
glacial needle
oh yikes
well after this one just keep upgrading it when needed isntead of buying a whole new pc. ive been building off the same pc since 2008 😛
glacial needle
i assume that was cause you are not ranked yet. you gotta be rank 3 to post links
to i think it was Godx
glacial needle
lol you gotta be rank 3 which you get from talking
its to keep out spammers and trolls
scenic lance
I was gonna go with the x570 version but nahhh
Only real addition is pci something 4.0
glacial needle
i think people said the asus tuf pro is good as long as you dont plan to OC, but idr. on the bright side supposedly b450s will get 4000 support depending on manufacterer
but after that youll have to get a new mobo anyways
coral haven
so again : hey i am in the same worries as @scenic lance , i can find my psu in the list (Cooler Master Master Watt 650W Semi-Fanless Silencio Fan, Semi-Modular 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply) any idea if its good ? and good for a build with i5 9600k and rx 5700xt ? no water cooling and 16 g of ram ?
scenic lance
Well until my games get choppy then I'll upgrade
Not a fan of oc but I'll upgrade if needed be
coral haven
talking to me @glacial needle ?
coral haven
i sent you the link @glacial needle
glacial needle
yeah so that one is tier B which is good as long as you're not going super high end
so from your specs i believe it would be perfectly fine
coral haven
ok ok for a i5 9600 kf and rx 5700xt ( no over clocking for both for now ) i should be good ?
ok ok thank you
glacial needle
if you want to go slightly better you could get the same psu he is getting
its more for midrange and it's cheaper
coral haven
yeah but i already ordered the other one haha yeah i just saw its cheaper but is fully modular harder a for a first build ? like harder to build ?
glacial needle
no i actually prefer modular as it makes cable management easier
you dont have to use all the wires and you dont have a ton of unused wires to manage
coral haven
oooo ok ok thx i will think about it next time thank you again
glacial needle
also usully from my experience semi modulars are usually much lower ranked. im suprised to see one that high up
coral haven
why is that ?
scenic lance
Ok my specs currently that are in my cart
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVKC
XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT DirectX 12 RX-57XT83LD8 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W
Was gonna go with r9 but cant decide yet
glacial needle
ok that should last you quite a while lol. you shouldn't need to upgrade for at least 5 years or so i think but i cant be sure
scenic lance
Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 250GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
That's one of the reasons why going in with extra $
glacial needle
it will definitely do well lol
scenic lance
Haven't got a case or mouse or keyboard yet lol
coral haven
i have a smilair build and i went with a fractal case
Fractal Design Meshify C Black ATX High-Airflow Compact Light Tint Tempered Glass Mid Tower Computer Case
glacial needle
are you buying only from newegg?
scenic lance
Me?
glacial needle
yeh
scenic lance
Yup
glacial needle
you should look to see if you got a microcenter near you
they have the best deals but only in person
but idk what their stocks would be like
scenic lance
Sadly I dont live in the us
glacial needle
ahh
scenic lance
I'm all the way in the Caribbean
Basically the last decade I was a console gamer but I steadily grew tired of locked fps
glacial needle
console gaming is good but pc gaming is pretty great. i like how much pc has to offer lol
glacial needle
you can always replace the mobo in the future
glacial needle
im partial to the asus prime pro but its so over priced right now lol
i have the x470 version
scenic lance
X470 could be a future proofing right?
sharp fox
x570 is better future proofing with pcie 4.0
glacial needle
yeah thats really the only way to future proof and thats only if you plan to upgrade to 4000 series as any after wil no longer support am4
scenic lance
So it's like saying I should have gotten the tuf x570 lol
glacial needle
i mean are you going to turn around and buy another cpu in a year?
scenic lance
Nope
glacial needle
then don't worry about it 😛
scenic lance
Yup was watching a review has room at top for 2 more fans
The front is like a big door
For air
glacial needle
i usually do 3 on the front as intakes and one on the rear as exhaust
coral haven
i got this one in the same case
GIGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX 5700 XT 8G
its fits
but a little more expensice
expensive
scenic lance
That's a whole lot of display ports bro lol
glacial needle
no display port is good
coral haven
so having a lot of them is not a issue then right ?
glacial needle
no
coral haven
ok thx haha
glacial needle
the ones ive seen seem to have 3 dp and 3 hdmi tho
coral haven
yeah mine have the same
do you know the difference between hdmi and display ? like what are the main diff ?
round pike
DP is better
glacial needle
uhhhh dp can put out higher frames i think, but some people said it cant do audio but mine can so idk
coral haven
ok ok thx but for audio i will have a headset so i should be fine
thank you vrey mucj
round pike
https://youtu.be/f38sotYHqtA
Here's more stuff about it
lethal lichen
The s340 elite has good air flow right?
unborn narwhal
anyone have any well ventilated case recommendations? I'm looking to build a new pc with ryzen 5, 32g ram, rx5700 video card. debatin gon kicking it a nickel to get liquid cooling but my current pc with an amd FX chip heats my office to the point where its uncomfortable lol
novel flax
whats the budget for the case
and r u getting case fans separately?
@unborn narwhal
round pike
The cougar conquer is pretty well ventilated
unborn narwhal
no i was jus thoping to get a pretty basic case with fans in it. not upgrading any part. i mean unless its more cost effective. I honestly dont think i have a budget for it. wa shopign for 50to100 bucks maybe?
i'll look up the cougar. i'm actually usinga cougar case now
just need good air flow to make sure things stay cool
round pike
I think it might be a bit above that budget. It has more or less unlimited airflow though
unborn narwhal
that cougar conquer is bizarre looking lol
i see that now lol
i saw a deal on a focus g before but thats out of stock now
elfin trout
Meshify C, best if you add more fans, TD500 mesh, whenever that's in stock, Coolermaster H500, saw that at like 90$ recently
unborn narwhal
diggin those @elfin trout
elfin trout
Also btw PC heating up a room has nothing to do with what's cooling it, just what's in the PC
since the heat is all vented out either way
unborn narwhal
yeah i know but i figure poor air flow is allowing them to get hotter than they should be
i mean nothings too hot it shuts off but i did have an error other day on video card
still have that parts list you gave me before... still looking to get all the parts together but will probably have to buyt hem in pieces from diff places since so many are otu of stock
novel flax
a case that looks rly cool, also has fans, is the corsair 220t
unborn narwhal
oh nice. thanks
novel flax
its at the top of ur budget, 100$ @unborn narwhal
unborn narwhal
yeah i see. all good
next will have to go and sift through all the gskill ram
thanks guys
novel flax
lol np
unborn narwhal
actually ... what about this one? https://amzn.to/2XNTstA
does it matter if theres two fans in front and none in the back or is one in front and one in back better than 2 up front?
and that psu i was looking to get was out of stock fast
not sure about adding liquid cooling but does the liquid cooling fans fit easily? i mean if the case says its an option.
soft gorge
@lethal lichen The s340 elite has decent airflow, but could be better. And @unborn narwhal I just got the coolermaster td500 mesh white which seems pretty good for airflow, will update once I power it up
And @golden kestrel my mobo doesn't have a 5v argb header I believe, you said plug it into sata instead if I'm understanding correctly? (Forgive me I've never switched cases myself before)
soft gorge
The s340 elite can hold either 2 120mm fans up front or 2 140mm fans, which was what I had. Top can also hold a 140mm or 120mm, rear is 120mm
unborn narwhal
but it doesnt come with any?
golden kestrel
Ok, so since your mobo doesn't have a argb header, your gonna take the little black switch that was included, and plug all of the rgb headers into that switch. The switch is powered by a sata connection. Also, you change fan colors by pushing the button on the switch. So try to route it in a way that its easily accessible from the glass side panel
Hope that helps @soft gorge
soft gorge
@unborn narwhal it should come with 2 fans, a 120mm for the rear, and a 120mm up top, but no front fans
soft gorge
And I'll try when I get off work @golden kestrel If it helps at all I have the ROG Strix x470f