#cases-psu-and-cooling
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elaborate on that statement @teal ferry ?
oh sorry, talking to amazon about a refund for the PSU sorry
okay so, should I replace the cables on the inside of the case with the ones from the old PSU? is it possible the power cables could have went with it>
?*
in theory, everything is possible when a PSU goes boom
yeah I can imagine, especially when it goes boom in front of me 😂
thank god it wasn't overnight
which is why most seasoned technicians absolutely loathe PSU errors/troubleshooting
I can imagine honestly, I've never dealt with this before and I hope I don't much
but backing up on your previous mention, I did already remove stuff from the board and I still couldn't get power, and yes I do
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ok lemme go grab that, 1 sec
POST: Debug code LED
alright i'm here
nope
no rush
gotta take stuff out again
it is just something for you test at your own time
ah ok
because there are plenty of things you can do to make yourself as certain as can be about what is actually "dead"
yeah good point
want me to try the CPU thing now and see what I get?
it could still be the cables, which I really don't wanna go through the hassle of un-ziptieing everything
at least not atm
regular trouble shooting = pull EVERYTHING apart
and start from there
and now you also know why very few technicians have nice cable managed systems
:D
haha true lmao
well, I'
i'll start with what you suggested I guess, I'll bring my laptop with me so I can talk back and forth if you don't mind
you are welcome to do that :)
just remember, keeping track of what you have tried where is VERY practical
yeah good point, time to start a notepad lmao
and try to not make/jump to conclusions about what you see/know/think
yeah I've learned not to do that haha, luckily at least
fx: oh, it didnt work with "this" stick
meaning, it wont work with the other stick
etc etc
no rush, you are the one doing all the work :)
fair point
ok I pulled all the PSU cables, gonna remove the big boi gpu and the RAM next, then i'll use the corsair cables
best of luck :)
does anyone know a decent 550 w psu thats not expansive
CX 2017
is it alright if I leave a few things plugged in like the fans and the SATA cables? or should I pull everything
ok ill check it
let me refer to what i said above @teal ferry "regular trouble shooting = pull EVERYTHING apart"
alright then
sata cables'll be a b*tch to put back it but oh well
i'm leaving the CPU fan plugged in unless I should pull that too
got it
if either of you tried to post a link, send it to me instead :)
and added it
you cannot post links until you have reached lvl 3 (to prevent link spam from new users)
np :)
ok should I start with just CPU and board power and go from there?
the simpler a start, the easier it is to keep track of things
ok ok
and you have a reasonable suspicion that the "board" is the culprit
which like any true LED diagnostic list, doesnt tell us anything :D
most likely that is lack of ram thou
one stick at a time? stolen from me lmao
aye
actually
how many sticks you got?
(and boy, are you going to LOVE what i am going to say in a bit)
Ab <- note it down
here comes the part you are going to LOVE
that 1 stick you have
now move it to the second slot
then third
then fourth
then repeat with all the other sticks
hopefully, you get the exact same message from the LED everytime
if not, note it, move on
but again, keep track of all of this
good to hear
what next?
i'll put my m.2 in next
now, you need to figure out if 2 sticks work at the same time
all sticks are working in all slots
then yes, move on the ssd :)
stop for a sec thou
"all sticks are working in all slots" <- what about together?
good
then yes, keep ram in.
try the m.2
and a side question: you hooked to your iGPU ?
ok with the SSD in I'm getting temp readings after awhile, looks like it posts, and actually atm yeah
no monitor plugged in yet
gonna try powering the HDDs next
okay, and if not? and yeah ik
if not, lets see what happens before we panic :)
yeah
after the reboot
I know the CPU works, all 4 ram sticks work, and the iGPU
psu also work
at least for the loads that you have tried with so far
okay. so try and give the m.2 a try
and cross your fingers that didnt get corrupted or something silly like that
really, i was gonna do the HDDs next
the hdds dont "matter" as such
yes, they are "nice"
but not actually essential for you having something to "do" while the PSU is doing its warranty trip
hence "that" priority, if that makes sense?
:)
you can test the hdd(s) if you want
but there is generally very low chance of them frying from a PSU
doing anyway to be safe
:)
you are very welcome @teal ferry
and good job sticking to the very tedious process :)
its quite important for stuff like this :)
just imagine the "fun" you could have had if 1 stick of ram was bad
:)
but it is good to hear that everything that could be possibly hoped for, actually works :)
how important is a power supply and how do i choose one
ok
anyway i am buying a pre built from ibuypower
and they are telling me what wattage i need
its 750 watt
Okay
Seasonic Focus?
yeah
Yep that’s a very good power supply
ok
i will go with that
it also has 80 plus
so thats 80 plus percent eff
right?
efficiancy
Yeah it’s 80+ gold or platinum, which means it’s more than 80% efficiency
Don’t remember off the top of my head if it’s gold or platinum but both are good
Yeah no problem
You might not need the efficiency itself - but the general trend is that a higher rater = a more reliable, higher quality unit.
yes
@mild kettle sorry if the following scares you, but i have just been helping a user earlier today, that had a fairly bad experience with ibuypower
that does not mean you cannot buy from them
just make certain you inspect EVERYTHING when it arrives
how did they do in the LTT undercover vid again?
idk if they even did ibuypower, but I think they did
@tender root I have not ordered yet but I will definetly take your comment into consideration. What is your recommendation? I heard that NZXT is good but is there any other company?
@mild kettle just to verify, you are set on doing prebuilt?
Yes
okay, then please understand the following in a positive way: There is nothing good/bad about what i mentioned
BUT
it does mean, you should be aware of the state of your machine when it arrives, because it would seem to indicate that AT TIMES, their quality control process is not up to speed with things
however!
that can (and is) true for all companies
things eff up at times
that is just reality
Ok I see
hence why i said "that does not mean you cannot buy from them"
So should I buy from NZXT, cyberpower ibuypower. So many companies to choose from!
but i am a firm believer in giving people information so they can make a decision with as much context as possible
There are so many companies to choose from
I don’t know which ones good or bad
Maybe they r all good?
and i know the following doesnt help as such. But they all have the capacity to be good and they all have the capacity to be bad
Ok I understand
the best i think we (here in the community) can offer you is this: We will happily look over any specific setup/list you end up with, and offer feedback on it
but please do show it to us before you order :)
Ok
also, please know/understand: there are no stupid questions, only silly answers
I am trying to buy RTX 2080 TI 8GB vram 16 x 2 gb ram Corsair, intel i9
Asus motherboard
Triple water coolers
And rgb
But I am not sure yet
that sounds like a almost certain way to get fleeced by the vendor
but it should be doable if that is what you want
Ok
Actually ibuy offered a good price
It was 3500 CAD
- accessories I bought (monitor, router, chair, mouse and desk
4500CAD
NZXT offered 4700 CAD and it wasn’t the same specs, actually the specs were worse
based on my knowledge, that sounds VERY much like corners are being cut
try and get a full list from either of them
Ok
that makes it much easier to have an actual conversation about it :)
Ok
So this is what I customized
ADATA XPG BATTLECRUISER Tempered Glass Gaming Case - Black
Case Fans Default Case Fan
Case Lighting iBUYPOWER RGB Lighting - [FREE] 1 RGB Lighting Strip
Processor Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor (8x 3.60GHz/16MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling Thermaltake Water 3.0 360 ARGB Sync Edition RGB Liquid Cooling System
Memory 32 GB [16 GB x2] DDR4-3200 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance PRO (RGB LED)
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 - ASUS ROG STRIX (VR-Ready)
Motherboard ASUS PRIME Z390-P -- 802.11ac WiFi, Realtek LAN, USB 3.1 (6 Rear, 4 Front)
Power Supply 750 Watt - Seasonic FOCUS PLUS SSR-750FX - 80 PLUS Gold, Full Modular
Advanced Cabling Options Standard Default Cables
Primary Hard Drive 1 TB Samsung 860 PRO SSD -- Read: 560MB/s, Write: 530MB/s - Single Drive
Sound Card 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System Windows 10 Pro - (64-bit)
Keyboard iBUYPOWER Standard RGB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse iBUYPOWER Gaming Optical Mouse - Multi-Color LED Lighting
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service Standard Service - ships in 3 to 4 weeks
3400$
CAD
CAD that is right?
Yes
give me a couple of minutes :)
Ok
@mild kettle the GPU was white?
Black
fair, same price it turns out
Yes
a bit of background info @mild kettle
Is this a good system
we normally use a site called pcpartpicker for comparing prices and availability
Ah
and i have just plotted your parts into that
because it pulls prices from multiple stores in, so we dont have to chase all over the place for specific prices
Yes
with that in mind
on first look, IF i just put your parts in, it "looks" like it is reasonably priced
as in, the price from ibuypower is a fair deal under
like 400-500 CAD
however
details matter
a LOT
Yes
Oh
and did i mention slow?
Yes
oh yes also expensive as all heck for no actual reason
its part of it
you are paying for "convenience"
"here dear customer, select from these 5 flavours"
Yes
and i have no problem with seeing why people dont want to build their own
Well I’ve never done so
all you need is time
And I dont want to break it
you got the time to jump in a voice chat and quickly go over the details etc?
Not now
would make it much faster to converse about it
I can’t now
no no, no rush :)
Ok
i am not the one looking for a machine :)
I do have a friend who could help me build tho
its merely a "instead of typing out a couple of novels in questions, its quicker to take a chat about it" kind of question :)
Hey Naed is this power supply good? https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-gx1-rgb-500w-ps-tpd-0500nhfaga-1/p/N82E16817153392?Description=thermaltake toughpower gx1&cm_re=thermaltake_toughpower_gx1-_-17-153-392-_-Product&quicklink=true sorry for interrupting
@lime fog you checked it up against the LTT list?
its a B tier unit
Psu
Nice
It’s 60 after rebate
And I probably can sell the stock one one eBay for 20
depending on what you "need" and stock of the CX 2017
you could get a slightly better unit for less
Out of stock, I’m guessing?
2sec, let me check :)
oh yes, very much out of stock and amazon is taking the wee on it gouging wise
Oh
so with that in mind, the one you linked is "solid enough"
you are very welcome, thank you for coming in with a well thought out question :)
It’s true that 500 mb is slow
I want 3000 mb
That’s fast
I changed to gigabyte aorus gen 4 5000 mbps
That’s good
http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-ATX-TemperedGlass.html
Im looking at getting this case to replace my current one. I feel like it will work quite nicely for me but was wondering if anyone else had an opinion on it and also know of somewhere actually selling it as it seems a little hit and miss as to where i can get it from (In the UK)
Im getting the impression the case may be discontinued but im not really too sure so if that could be clarified that would be good too
What's the best power supply for $60 or less?
alright
@tender root is the evga 450 bq good?
It has more watts, it's cheaper, and it's semi modular
read what i said above :)
also, have a serious look at the PSU Tier list, in the pinned messages in #building-and-recc-chat
ok
So, I saw a eBay deal, a cx650m for around $70. Is that a good deal? I think it’s brand new
No
hey guys i recently started my first pc build and i have the phanteks p400a case which i love and i really enjoy building with it but the fans have 3 ping DRGB yes DRGB connectors on them, but the motherboard i have (the MSIB450 tomahawk max) only has 4 pin input slots, is there anyway i can get the LEDs to plug in, like is there an adapter or fan hub i need to buy???
may pick up a gungnir for my build, because it's a nice, understated case in terms of unicorn vomit lighting and can fit a full size rad in both the front and top
so many cases these days completely shut rads out of the top slots
what case does?
Would anyone know where to order replacement parts for a rackmount case? I have an older one that need a new HDD bracket that got lost.
i mean yeah if you want to spend 500 on a case or get an o11d I guess there's more options lol
so I am very pleased to discover that inverse ATX cases are a thing, cause right now my pc tg window is basically facing the wall unless I wrap cables around the back of the case, I was wondering if anyone has experience with this model, or if they might recommend a better option for an inverse atx layout
Is the corsair 250d still available? That was like a dream case for a server/media closet with its 5.25 bay
If it's not on corsair.com or newegg, I'd check eBay
Hmmm yeah. I wonder what modern cases replaces it.
Oh yeah but.. No bay and the 250d has more space for storage. Yet it's huuuuge
There's a 250D on ebay from the UK
Yeah I'll have to snag one in the future. 😁
Good luck
@meager frost what you are searching for is cases with reversible motherboard trays
that should give you some of the older cases that freely swapped layout from side to side
@lime fog actually about that PSU
I bought one myself, the toughpoer grand RGB 850W, slightly different model BUT
mine died in 2 months by means of a very aggressive death. I'm lucky it didn't take anything with it when it died
I would be careful, that series is supposed to be of higher quality, but i'm not sure. just thought I would let you know my experiences with TT
I need to buy a good psu to test if my current one is working properly what kind of Wattage should I be looking at for my PSU?
Core i7-9700k
MSI MPG Z390 Carbon Pro AC ATX
Geforce RTX 2070 Super
1 M.2 NVME SSD
1 SATA SSD
2 8GB Ram sticks
Trying to figure out the problem my pc currently has and it's been narrowed down to cpu and psu. So I have already ordered the replacement cpu and I want to order a psu just in case it wasn't the cpu.
I have a Dell Optiplex, i7... and want to update the graphics card (RX 580). I am looking for 600W PSU that fits into the Dell Optiplex 9020 (case: 14.2 x 6.9 x 16.4). Would be grateful for any recommendations. My main concern is that the PSU fits into the case.
Hey, I got an optiplex 9010. High five!
I dunno how easy it'd be to upgrade the PSU on a non-atx standerd Dell case
@quiet egret you missed the response in #building-and-recc-chat ?
hey nightwielder.... yeah, thats what i am wondering...
It's sort of the same question, I'm just not sure about the wattage, I currently have a 750 watt
@lunar hare which specific case variant do you have?
@quiet egret anything above 650 is overkill imo
but, availability might force your hand on that front
Minitower
could you do me a big favour and send me a dm with a picture of the back of machine? @lunar hare
because there are a number of variants (Dell are LOVELY like that)
(and yes, that was sarcasm)
@tender root... working on it... will send it.. awesome
thank you @lunar hare
@tender root i just sent it...
2sec
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704794038917660692/704794325669642350/image0.jpg <- on behalf of @lunar hare
you are keeping your mainboard right @lunar hare ?
yes
you are out of luck
@lunar hare i see you here, i was just double checking my memory about it
its a custom mainboard with custom power delivery that is specific for that PSU
@tender root as far as i know, there is an adaptor...
yes, there would be
but i am not willing to recommend something like that
mainly because i have seen and worked with some of the wonky stuff Dell has made over the years
@tacit wren could you fix permissions for @lunar hare ?
thank you :)
you should be able to post links @lunar hare
@tender root thank you. never mind, was going to post the link for the adaptor. but since you dont think it's a good idea.
i would still like to try it though.
its mainly that there is a potential risk
and i dont feel comfortable giving you a "go ahead!" on something that can fry a part
i totally understand... if i did this, it would be my own risk of course.
this might sound like i am not willing to help. But please try and understand my POV on this
i cannot in any way recommend this
@tender root, it's cool. i totally understand.
because someone else will read it, and go "oh cool! that will 100% work" and if their system fries a part or 5 ... it would technically be my fault
Regardless, i will still need a PSU that fits into the case, even if i get a new board...
yep, understand
It looks like most ATX psu's will fit
@tender root, thanks a lot man, much appreciated!
it might require some jerry-rigging but it should fit
you can take a measuring tape if you are in doubt/want-to-double-check
and you are very welcome @lunar hare, best of luck with it, sadly i think you are going to need it
thanks
https://puu.sh/FDIY1/d36e022238.jpg <- for you @elfin trout
Oh interesting
and that is it
nothing else power cable wise btw
as in, no 24 pin
thought you might want to see it, because we have touched on quirky psu's from time to time
this is how the actual board looks
aye
If anyone has any Full Tower recommendations let me know! Mostly looking for tempered glass or clear side(s)
ive built in that one
it looks fantastic with all of its glass, and its relatively cheap for what you get considering it has 4 TG panels.
Plenty of space for everything
if you dont want the hard drive cages for space for a water pump or something, theres room for hard drives in the back
That's the one I was looking at actually, thanks for the recommendation!
sure thing
also just a tip, you can fit 3 140mm fans in the front with a super easy case mod that doesnt require drilling or anything
(normally it fits 3 120mm fans up front or 2 140)
Interesting, thanks
anyone got any suggestions on a good rack mountable case? I am wanting to put my Ryzen build in it and figured a "boring" enterprise server would be a good way to make a sleeper that looks like something dull and businesslike but can game it up as I feel like with out looking too much like a gaming PC
I don't think I'll ever justify an ATX build. So many pcie slots that I wouldn't use. I'd rather go itx
anybody else excited for the new Pure Base 500DX from BeQuiet? or just Me?
comes with 3 140mm fans as well
ultra quiet cooling
i've never heard of it but it looks good
Looks good, but not for me
Why is it always so hard to find the information I want on a case or item......though for some odd reason I am always wanting information about something different.....
anyways hopefully someone might be able to help me get the answer I seek??
On the iStarUSA D-400 Aluminum / Steel 4U Rackmount case, what type of switch is the power switch, I am hoping someone might be able to help me figure it out, it looks like an old style push always on switch, but the wiring tells me it is a momentary switch, perhaps I should just take the risk and place the order?
@zenith shore ask Istar about that
but if memory serves about them, then they are fairly lazy about details on their own page
I agree, i did attempt to ask, I got more or less a generic lazy reply....
so I decided I may look at silverstone as I have had a few cases from them in the past and pictures are clear enough to make the decisions I want to make
would they take a standard mainboard IO shield?
I also been looking at some super micro cases as well
i dont see why they wouldnt
ok
Hey i'm trying to build my first pc and i'm not sure what kind of case to get
does anyone have any recommendations?
That is a nice case but 200 seems pretty steep for a case
It's big and made of metal. But yeah, pricey
I'd suggest Crystal Series 680X but it's more
Maybe like a themaltake case? I've heard good things about those
Thermaltake S300 Tempered Glass - $80 on amazon
Thermaltake S100 Tempered Glass - $60 on amazon
Is an enermax 650 gold not a good high end gaming PSU? I was recommended it from here. Just asking because when I try play high end games it just shuts off without warning, its not a bsod
@steel pasture gotta say the exact model, I assume enermax revolution d.f, which is a great PSU.
Yes thats the one
Because the brand has bad reputation, but they do make a few good/great PSUs.
I see, so should I get a new PSU?
are you sure it's a PSU issue?
Im unsure, but my friends are telling me thats most likely the cause. It doesnt give a warning, no bsod, just shuts off and doesnt attempt to start back up
People like to blame PSU failure, since that explains a lot of things, but it's usually very rare to have PSU failure.
That unit should be more than enough for a high end system.
I was just checking, but the enermax d.f should have no problem at all.
Anyways, can you try running a game with task manager or something you can watch open?
and see the behavior leading up to the crash?
@elfin trout everything looked good % and temp wise, i tried playing black desert online however after the first cutscene of creating a character immediatly after the cutscene was done it dies
I only understand a little bit of event viewer but im not getting enough info to understand why the critical level (kernel-power) happened
looked at the inside of my pc and everthing is nice and tight to the appropriate manner
I'll try to run the game again on a slightly lower setting
you certain ALL the power plugs are plugged in @steel pasture ?
Hello I don’t know much about PCs and I need a decent case anybody have recomendations?
Budget?
Correct I’m certain, I just recieved a bsod one moment
machine check exception was the stopcode
@steel pasture check drivers, make sure to update them all
aw damn CM H500 is out of stock
I love that case
lets see
P400a should be pretty good @dire badger
Phanteks
Thank you
@elfin trout I hate to bother you but could I send you a pm of the parts I want to buy and you tell me if it’s okay or if something won’t work good together?
@elfin trout Im unsure of what else to update I have done the following:
-Windows updates
-graphics card
-checked each driver manually
Havent checked the bios though
@dire badger go ahead
Kappa, I was suggesting that as that is a possibility for BSODs, but have you OCed anything?
No I never oc'd I did do the EZ wizard for gaming though thats the only thing i touched past load order when first starting the PC
gotcha its supposed to improve cpu and ram based on what it said
yea... lets try without it.
kk
one moment
so lesson taught dont use the EZ wizard which DID OC a lot of stuff
lets see if I can run the game now
Yea, lets see.
Ok that fixed it
ive gotten further than the cutscene now
and it ALWAYS died at the end of it
I will try that then
@steel pasture would you say that you have learned to question what a button does, BEFORE you press it, might be a good idea? :)
good :)
Thanks again guys!
You're welcome, but make sure still to stress test stuff in case there's other issues.
Yes i will in a moment
(You can use prime95 for CPU, and furmark for GPU if you don't have any stress tests that you know)
Man, I hope the Phanteks case I was eyeing comes back into stock.
any great looking all white mid-size towers?
already know about the NZXT cases so anything else but them
@scenic lance Fractal Design does some
@scenic lance Spec Omega RGB looks pretty epic. Not very fun to work with and small tho
does anyone know of a place where I can buy a new/lightly used NZXT S340 Elite?
i just missed my chance to buy one a long time ago and i would sincerely love one
The NZXT you mean?
Has anyone here used a Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX?
I am so ridiculously jealous of the td500 mesh
I have the non mesh one 
I think it will actually be the best case on the market for mid size rgb stuff
p400a too
I'm a cooler faster fan bay tho
P400a is a better price but td500 has better features
Some of the best
no selling here dawg
against da rules
what you COULD do is list it on facebook marketplace and post it in #tech-deals
or mercari
or offerup
can i get a recomendation on a decent 550w - 650w psu thats instock rn and modular
@golden kestrel i have a CORSAIR RM Series RM650 CP-9020194-NA 650W, currently in stock and $115
I saw that one
@golden kestrel DF back in stock
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt
thx for pointing that out. i always forget which one it is
damn, i was very wrong about that, or rolling stock updates hit again
IF that one stays in stock over the next ... 3-4 days
that is something i am quite willing to look at as a good sign
Yea...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/drnGDx What PSU should i get?
why intel
& ide wait for new chips to hit market, including AMD's.. should see price drops imho
buy AMD CPU, sell GPU, and could get a 2080S. And if you didnt buy an overpriced cooler or RAM then a 2080Ti. Overall same price
^
What is the best psu for the 2070 super
Depends on budget
Should i get the Ryzen 9 3950X or i9 9900k?
Gaming
Budget?
Not really
(what is your budget)
I have like no budget
My dad is buying all this for me
Ask him how much he is willing to pay
for cpu like 800 or lower
Overall?
I already have the graphics card, case probably 2k?
@deep forum Ill recommend this again as you missed it I guess
buy AMD CPU (3700x), sell GPU, and could get a 2080S. And if you didnt buy an overpriced cooler or RAM then a 2080Ti. Overall same price
If you can sell it off now or return it now, it's prob a good idea.
I had it for a few months
@deep forum you have a high enough budget for a 3600+2080Ti / 3700x+2080Ti
Does a 3600 and 2080ti bottleneck tho?
I'd 3700x
Idk you might be able to do it with a 3600x but a 3600 seems like a stretch
not much difference with x and non
Ya ig
3600 doesnt bottleneck a 2080 ti, 3700x vs 3600 have pretty close framerates in the majority of games
also it depends, it could be more of a bottleneck if you turn down visual settings to get most fps
I see people using 1440p with a 2080Ti, to which you don't really notice any difference between a 3600 and 3700x
about to ask a stupid question. someone built me a pc and i'm trying to find out what case I have is there any way that i can find out what case I have without directly asking the person who built the pc?
its got like a green tiger logo the inside
idk what it is
ignore the dirty room lol
Aorus
ye
ohh
does taht look like it
yeah kinda
That would be my guess
hey
NZXT H500/deepcool Earlkase RGB White/Phanteks PH-EC300/ In win 101
I really like the In Win 101 because it is very cheap in Romania
and a nice case
... the case I want looks like it has a good sale with a rebate going on. I'm almost tempted to jump on it, even if I won't be buying the rest of the parts until June. It's not like letting the case sit for a month would hurt it.
And... I sort of think I need to buy one thing to commit myself. Otherwise I might just keep dithering about it for eternity.
any cases under 50 with rbg and tempered glass?
I agree
I still like my choice of case better. I mean, it's not like I'll be running a 3900 and RTX 2080 in it.
Might be better off getting an ok build quality case and a cheap pack of rgb fans/ strips
Something like the darkflash matx
Idk of any cheap cases that have rgb fans in them.
Wanted to order the NZXT H510 case today, out of stock everywhere :/
focus g
Looking for a white or white/black case that has a Stormtrooper (Star Wars) feel to it, any recommendations that will not cost me an arm or a leg, or my soul? lol
nzxt h510 or h700
theres always the i versions of those aswell
and a lian li o11 dynamic is also a very nice white case
@lyric glade best techie
thanks for those options, i will check them out @lyric glade
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/36xqgJ I got this list from someone, opinions on it ? It’s for gaming and my budget is 1,518 USD @elfin trout
@timber steeple 1518 for the entire build+monitor and peripherials or just tower itself
I need the whole build including monitor but I don’t need mouse and keyboard
@half meadow
ok
so i got the aerocool strikex-air case and this thing is huge that I cant fully fit it under my desk horizontally
can I turn the case on its side or is that a thing that shouldn't be done
as long as ur coolings good u should be fine
@sacred fable its open air case
Is cooler master mb311L a good case?
I'm pretty sure it's not released yet but I have high expectations for it
Oh
It has just about everything you could want in a matx build tho. Psu shroud, raidiator support, 2 fans included (aRGB btw), glass side panel, etc
Yea it sounds like a great buy
Quick question will the front usb and usbc from panels on the h510 nzxt work when I plug them in to the mother board or will I need a new cable for that
they should work if u plug them directly to the motherboard
how do I know how many watts my psu should have for my build
simple or long answer @oak pebble ?
whichever helps me get the best performance/stability out of it
go to https://pcpartpicker.com/ and plug in your parts, look in the upper right, and get a psu (that is of good quality) with a higher wattage than that number
does it matter how much higher I go? like if I get 600 recommend then I probably wouldnt need like 1200w supply right?
imo, anything above 650 is way overkill
Ya, but it wouldn't really hurt.
If you want to spend more for 100% silence from the psu, most won't need to use the fan < 1/3 rating.
(but, it is very much a personal preference thing, because it depends entirely on your future plans etc etc etc)
Theres also passive cooled PSUs if you care that much bout noise
aight thanks everyone
EVGA 1600 T2 is passive until 620W load 😆
Lmao
If you turn hybrid mode on.
https://i.imgur.com/WPBalTh.png
Yes
okay thank you
any recommendations on rgb case fans ? budget is around 65 and looking for at least 4 fans
i would but everything is out of stock
Howdy all. I'm in way over my head with a replacement of a PSU to my desktop. Was wondering if someone might be able to offer up some advice
whats in your pc @rose flint that may help give some suggestions
I have a question. Would I be able to use a regular multimeter to check if a power supply is working? I am building a PC for someone and it isnt booting or even trying to turn on. I want to find out of the power supply is working at all
Is a 500 watt psu compatible with the XFX Radeon RX 580 8 gb the xxx version?
@tender root got my refund from amazon for the power supply! yay 😄
Same question I asked last night. Can I use a multimeter to check if my psu is working and if I can how would I do that
@teal ferry good to hear :)
@neat river you can, I would use your ATX power connector on your board, you're gonna want to find a grounding pin and connect your grounding lead into that, then use the other end to test the voltages, you need 3.3V, 5V, and 12V
make sure the computer is on, and the connector is plugged into your board
anything those values or close to them should be o
ok*
so like 3.2, 5.1, and 12.3 would all be ok numbers, anything within .1-.2 I would say should be ok
if it doesn't turn on then you might have an issue elsewhere, at that point you should use a PSU tester, they're pretty cheap if you don't have one
okay because even shorting the pins for the power switch on the mobo does nothing
yeah I think you'll have to try something else
a PSU tester might work but idk
you could do what Naed had me do, strip the whole thing down to just the board and the CPU, try and turn it on
I think my friend might have a PSU tester. I will see if he can help me
looks like a fine case... I would just maybe get another case fan or 2 because its only got 1 if i remember correctly from when i was researching cases
Does anyone own a lian li O11 Dynamic XL? I’d like to get the rough width and height of the front tempered glass panel. Plan to do some glass etching and want to start planning out the size before I get my hands on one.
@grand ether ?
why am i being pinged 
it's pretty obvious 😦
i dont have the XL version
I think I can guesstimate the aspect ratio from this. Which will work too! Thanks!!
@stray crater doesnt the manufacturers site have a manual with the numbers?
That is a thicccc rad on the bottom.
That monster is thicker than my psu
anyone know of any good psu’s that are actually in stock rn
@hushed yoke surprising, that PSU, if new, is fairly good according to the tier list
rm750x would be my recommendation off the top of my head, but EVGA and SeaSonic are both good brands
im just voicing my personal opinion, that listing looks bad to me on amazon.
yea the listing looks terrible
@placid steeple
https://www.ebay.com/itm/333591384249
AX860 for $110 (A list)
Another a-list for $80 (evga 1300 watt modular)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123667595325
G2 is a great PSU
Well, this guy changed his mind a bit later on about his reaction to this. But it is still questionable for P2/G2
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/585894-why-you-should-not-purchase-the-evga-g2-lineup-especially-in-homes-with-frequent-brownouts/
(NOTE FROM CREATOR OF THIS POST YEARS LATER: I DONT SUPPORT THE CONCLUSIONS I DREW ANYMORE) The EVGA G2 lineup is considered by many to be very high quality, the P2 considered fantastic, but the latest testing by professional reviewers shows that some or perhaps all of these u...
Basically after a while his conclusion changed to "may not matter as much because terrible voltage for a few ms may not matter" more or less. But there really isnt any proof on whether it's bad or good
So, questionable I guess, for home use
@neat river I had a what I thought was a bad power supply got one from ebay direct replacement put it in and still nothing. it was doing what's yours is doing so reading a troubleshooting guide I stripped the motherboard down to the board and cpu and began methodically plugging items back in each time powering it up, so in my case what it ended up being was 1 stick of memory was bad Ended buying this oem replacement power supply off ebay for nothing.
@eager monolith i’m not sure i’ll need a 1300 psu tbh
Why on earth would you need a 1300w psu?
What could you possible be running off that, threadripper with dual titans?
Idk, but 80 dollars for it is a great deal
Yeah lol, just cheap
Open Box is usually a great way to save money
Like I wouldn't do an open box cpu, but like a PSU
any recommendations for a 500-600 watt psu?
Corsair CX550
CX 450 is in stock right now @ripe zenith
If you're looking at 500-600, 450w should be alright
I have an EVGA 600GD but everybody here absolutely bashes me and says I should’ve gotten a better one
I like it personally
@chrome iris git better psu
My point exactly 😂
Lol
I mean it has a five year warranty so that’s not too bad
Ooh @ripe zenith
SeaSonic Prime gold 550w
Prime gold 550w has a super long warranty and it’s really nice
I’ve used it in a build for someone
Has 4.5 stars for reviews
It’s EATX
Looks like front panel airflow might be a little restrictive
@chrome iris you need to look for stuff that's in stock now
Every God damn PSU is going out of stock
Oh yeah I didn’t look at anything I’m just saying stuff off the top of my head
Sorry
i’m trying to finish my bike and the only thing i have left is my psu
Yeah I get it
but like you said most psus are out of stock
What CPU and GPU you got?
ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2060
That can run on a 450w right?
Hold on
Eeeh I personally would get a 500w
NVIDIA recommends a 500w
Ignore Nvidia reccomendations imo :p
It's what 65w CPU draw, ~200w GPU draw
Add in 70w system draw which is average
I mean I’ve seen an RX 570 run on a 400w before and it’s recommended for a 450w. I was saying it’s my personal preference... just to be safe.
@elfin trout is smarter than me though lol
Yeah it’s only got an 8 pin
It's 75w from pcie power, 150w from 8 pin.
oh and the gpu is gonna be oc does that change anything?
How heavily are you gonna overclock it?
Just out of curiosity
it says it’s normally oc
Unless you somehow overclock the wires and the slot xD
it’s the msi ventus oc
It can't draw power from the air
The max it can draw from the slot and the power connector is 225w
alright
The 6/8 pin connectors have no hard limits on power draw themselves.
Power limits are almost entirely controlled by the nividia vbios and a microcontroller on the pcb that reads current through each of the shunt resistors.
That's the rating - but it's not enforced by anything in the PSU or the cables, nor does the motherboard limit slot power to 75W.
RX480's are infamous for pulling 100W from the board.
https://i.imgur.com/6jbiFGm.png
huh
What wattage?
what wattage would be able to run a 2600x and 5700xt?
What are the repercussions for having an underpowered psu?
looking online: "If you choose a PSU with too little wattage, your system will shut off when it draws more power than the PSU can feed it. ... Every new component will change how many watts your system needs to keep running."
so what’s wrong with evga power supply’s?
@elfin trout companies that use the PSU cables will go by that ATX rating, but as Forks said it isn't physically set. So unless by failure (like RX480) no GPU on default settings will pull more from the slot/cable then that ATX spec defines. Idk if just OCing and pushing power limit can affect that. But it is at least 225w max no matter what on default settings for 2060(S?).
I my self would go with a 800 wt. I run a AX1200i with mine 1080ti extreme in sli and 19 7860x w 64 gigs ddr4 oc
A quality 800w+ is much more expensive then a quality 550w/650w and for the average user who even wants to get a 3950x+2080Ti and OC it, 650w is plenty
$25 1620W platinum used ebay
laughs in supermicro
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMICRO-PWS-1K62P-1R-1620W-80-PLUS-PLATINUM-POWER-SUPPLY/313075245431
What would be a nice looking case with good air flow under $80 USD
23 pair connector compatible supermicro chasis
tbh - the 920w psu's are far more compatible since they use the 19 pair connector
interesting
is this an adaptor that turns it into normal atx connectors?
That's a PDB that normally comes with a case like the fat twin, sc846 etc (it's built in)
You just slide the PSU into the slot and it locks into place, connecting to the PDB
neat
smh Forks stop flexing 😔
This is an sc846 with dual 920 plats - but I took this vid a bit ago just to show how convenient it is to install/remove parts
I don't see it as a flex since all that stuff - I bought on ebay for pennies on the dollar vs consumer hardware
I'm just messing :)
I'm just flexin' 😆
xd
Those satisfying clicks though as the parts slide into place
I wish I had a server
I don't actually have a server rack, I just put stuff on shelves I bought off chinese ebay on sale
4u is just a great case design for something you don't actively have to look at - air goes in the front, comes out the back, ez
Most fans, hdd's, psu's, even cpu coolers etc are all modular and tool-less to install/remove. ezpz
Ya, high quality 4u cases are generally pretty heavy, 20-40 lbs without any hdd's, mobo, cpu etc - so shipping is inherently high.
My very first build bought from newegg I built in some norco 4u with a core 2 duo and 8800 gts 512 lol.
Great high school computer.
nice
If you're looking for something in particular, lmk and I'll shoot you an ebay deal if I come across one
I browse that kind of stuff often.
fr
So, I've been using this case for a couple years now
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Carbide-Series™-SPEC-01-Red-LED-Mid-Tower-Gaming-Case/p/CC-9011050-WW
The case is fine, but as of late the side panels are harder and harder to get back into place due to mismanagement on my part. They still fit, but it takes a few good wacks for it to properly stay there. Now that I actually have some funds to spare, should I get a new PC case or stick with what I've got?
Carbide Series™ SPEC-01 has the essential, in-demand features you need in a performance gaming case, and it’s backed up with legendary CORSAIR design and build quality.
R u utilizing those disc slots lol
@lavish cove I haven't played with all the cases out there, but I absolutely love my Cougar Gemini S, which is around the $80 price point, if you haven't found one already that is.
any recommendations for a 650w psu that’s actually in stock rn
and preferably 80+ gold
I decided on the Phantek Enthoo Pro Tempered Glass, although after seeing it I think I want something different. So back to the drawing board. What’s a good case less than $200 with good airflow for a 3900x (stock cooler for now) and rtx2080super EVGA gaming black.
Yea eBay is good just gotta be a little careful cause things might not work
Sorry for not answering Randall. I do use them sometimes, but if it's something that needs to go I can manage
@vague hatch heres a case on newegg right now thats pretty popular and still has 2 disc slots
just a suggestion but a new case is always nice if the other is causing you trouble
if not you can put the money twards better hardware
@eager monolith Dont recommend used PSUs. You have no clue in what state the PSU is in and asking for a pic of it working is basically useless because that barely tells you anything other then it turns on. Even if A+ tier it's possible for a PSU to kill components from being a lemon which puts risk quite high as at used markets people dont worry as much on quality control. So it is a fair bit more risk involved. Then there is the fact that they are old PSUs with probs little lifespan left. Then there is the fact that there are multiple models of PSUs. That TX one you sent is an old model. A lot of the PSUs when sorted from lowest price in eBay are just old models of PSUs. Old CXM/TX, rest are simply bad models/series all together. Few G3s there that when new can sometimes be worth it
There is risk involved, as with most used electronics. However, to completely dismiss used markets for PSU isn't particularly wise either. Some sellers might list these PSUs without testing, yes, but most of the listings state "pulled from a working system." If you do get a bad one, well that sucks, but it isn't so likely as you make it out to be. You've gotta be smart and make sure you are buying from a decent seller, but that's just purchasing common sense (as in, don't buy from someone with 50% positive reviews). I bought my PSU from eBay used, and it works just fine. I'd say the risk isn't as bad as you make it out to be provided you are smart, and you can save a hefty sum from a new item.
If it is faulty, you can at least get a refund for the item. For sure, it would suck if you fried your mobo, but I'd doubt that that happens very often. I've bought two working PSUs online, and my brother has bought at least three with no issues. Also, not all psu failures will damage your mobo. It is a risk you gotta be aware of, oc. It does hold more risk than other used tech components, but I'm still going to buy my PSUs used whenever I'm in the market for one.
With regard to the older models, you gotta do your research. My bad for recommending an old model if it isn't actually a higher tier choice, probably should have looked at that more
You arent just risking mobo damage. You're risking entire system damage. The chances of someone giving a lemon PSU or modded (say replaced the fan without saying and messing up the mod to potentially break the PSU) is a fair bit higher then just getting new. Sure it still isnt that high in general, but it certainly is decently sketchy to say the least. I can like the used market, but I normally dont recommend used PSUs or storage much. Pretty easy to lie and no proof can truly be given for not lying.
Of all the parts I wouldn't want to buy used, the psu is definitely #1 on my list
Like I said, valid point to consider, but you'll be perfectly fine if you get a decent seller. It's often pretty clear if a item has been treated well from the photos. To each their own, but I'm think it isn't that large a risk. It's very bad situation if you do get a bad one, but the probability of getting a bad one when buying used from reputable sellers isn't very high. This isn't wish.com, it's ebay.
Smart sellers (generally the ones with better feedback ratios) on eBay/Amazon state the actual condition of the item or exaggerate the flaws. Especially with high value items, returns are a mess for both parties. The seller will loose money on shipping both ways and have a worthless item and they risk negative feedback.
Thing is do these sellers know much about PSUs? Test it at full load to make sure it actually works at said load for example rather then just test to see if the PC boots or have a 300w system with a 750w PSU not being able to fully test it?
Or actual PSU tester for checking to see if things are in spec
yall rly wrote whole essays
Well, PSUs are a sensitive topic around here
That's a fair point. Still, there's a good chance it could have been removed from a personal rig for an upgrade.
Probably a good portion of the used listings on eBay for those are person ones. It's risky if you get a seller who buys items from liquidation auctions or the like and sellers them without proper testing.
But most listings are probably personal. Big retailers who normally sell new items usually liquidate returns
dont cheap out on a psu
thats like the 1# rule lmao
just spend the extra 30 dollars for it new its not gonna kill ya
but buying it used could kill ur system
used psu fine if the seller is reputable and its a good psu...
i think at least.
just dont get a cheapo psu with no rating/brand lol
i mean its not something to get so pressed over its like just suck it up and spend the extra 20 dollars ¯_(ツ)_/¯
if its $20 more for a better psu for whever reason, then yeah id do it
Well yeah, but you can get like new PSUs for half retail
Like I'm considering getting a used ax1200i for $109
No cables but still a steal
I'm not advocating cheaping out on a PSU, just to consider used C or above PSUs
Used PSU too risky for me
@eager monolith What generation AXI tho? Could very well be 2013 AXI which could be getting close to it's end of life
All AXI are great, but still possible to get a very old one that because of usage isnt good
Yh, probably 2013
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193413319952
2013/2014 based on pics at least
idk how to tell whether it's 2013 or 2014 tho without model #
Still probably gonna go for it. I wanna have headroom for upgrades and overclocking. Looks to be like new and I can use the hx750i I already have on my sister build
Yeah
but def not 2018 cuz not grey labeled
75-00084 is model
yo what up my broskis
Sup
thermaltake smart arent really great
don't cheap out on psu
never
neva
eva

I'm gonna get yelled at for asking, but is the Antec Value Power Plus 500w a decent enough power supply?
for what parts?
Eh depends. CPU is gonna be i7-930, GPU will be one of these three: RX 470, RX 570, r9 280
yeah i think it should be, u might want to double check with someone else just to be sure
It's not on the tier list...
And the value in the name doesn't inspire confidence in its quality
I actually talked with Jonnyguru himself, listing a bunch of power supplies in my budget, (such as random EVGA 80+ and 80+ bronze, Thermaltake smart (Which I know is bad) and a few others along with the Antec VP plus) and he said the Antec was the "least offensive" power supply I listed and would be okay to power a system like mine
I'm just coming here as a final recommendation to see if it will be okay in a system like the one I have listed
can u maybe go for corsair cv450 maybe?
This is going in a budget PC flip... the desktop I'm flipping that has the i7 in it is like $70...
I'm not about to spend like $70 on a PSU
I just need something that will last for a little while in a budget used parts system
cx
I'm okay getting a PSU refurbished too
its like 57$ on newegg
cv is tier c sooo