#cases-psu-and-cooling

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teal ferry
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Should I swap the cables with the ones from the corsair too? or does it really not matter

tender root
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elaborate on that statement @teal ferry ?

teal ferry
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oh sorry, talking to amazon about a refund for the PSU sorry

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okay so, should I replace the cables on the inside of the case with the ones from the old PSU? is it possible the power cables could have went with it>

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?*

tender root
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in theory, everything is possible when a PSU goes boom

teal ferry
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yeah I can imagine, especially when it goes boom in front of me 😂

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thank god it wasn't overnight

tender root
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which is why most seasoned technicians absolutely loathe PSU errors/troubleshooting

teal ferry
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I can imagine honestly, I've never dealt with this before and I hope I don't much

tender root
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:)

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you still got the mainboard manual for the board?

teal ferry
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but backing up on your previous mention, I did already remove stuff from the board and I still couldn't get power, and yes I do

tender root
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page 26

teal ferry
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ok lemme go grab that, 1 sec

tender root
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POST: Debug code LED

teal ferry
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alright i'm here

tender root
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does that light up at all on the board?

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if even for a sec

teal ferry
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nope

tender root
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when there is "just" cpu in there

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nothing else

teal ferry
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hmm good point

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I can try that but i'll need 5-10 mins

tender root
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no rush

teal ferry
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gotta take stuff out again

tender root
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it is just something for you test at your own time

teal ferry
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ah ok

tender root
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because there are plenty of things you can do to make yourself as certain as can be about what is actually "dead"

teal ferry
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yeah good point

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want me to try the CPU thing now and see what I get?

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it could still be the cables, which I really don't wanna go through the hassle of un-ziptieing everything

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at least not atm

tender root
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regular trouble shooting = pull EVERYTHING apart

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and start from there

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and now you also know why very few technicians have nice cable managed systems

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:D

teal ferry
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haha true lmao

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well, I'

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i'll start with what you suggested I guess, I'll bring my laptop with me so I can talk back and forth if you don't mind

tender root
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you are welcome to do that :)

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just remember, keeping track of what you have tried where is VERY practical

teal ferry
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yeah good point, time to start a notepad lmao

tender root
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and try to not make/jump to conclusions about what you see/know/think

teal ferry
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yeah I've learned not to do that haha, luckily at least

tender root
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fx: oh, it didnt work with "this" stick

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meaning, it wont work with the other stick

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etc etc

teal ferry
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yeah good point

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alright moving stuff around be back in 5

tender root
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no rush, you are the one doing all the work :)

teal ferry
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fair point

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ok I pulled all the PSU cables, gonna remove the big boi gpu and the RAM next, then i'll use the corsair cables

tender root
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best of luck :)

weak charm
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does anyone know a decent 550 w psu thats not expansive

tender root
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CX 2017

teal ferry
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is it alright if I leave a few things plugged in like the fans and the SATA cables? or should I pull everything

weak charm
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ok ill check it

tender root
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let me refer to what i said above @teal ferry "regular trouble shooting = pull EVERYTHING apart"

teal ferry
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alright then

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sata cables'll be a b*tch to put back it but oh well

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i'm leaving the CPU fan plugged in unless I should pull that too

weak charm
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got it

tender root
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if either of you tried to post a link, send it to me instead :)

weak charm
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and added it

tender root
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you cannot post links until you have reached lvl 3 (to prevent link spam from new users)

weak charm
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oh i see

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thx

tender root
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np :)

teal ferry
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ok should I start with just CPU and board power and go from there?

tender root
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the simpler a start, the easier it is to keep track of things

teal ferry
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ok ok

tender root
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and you have a reasonable suspicion that the "board" is the culprit

teal ferry
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using my old cables, we have power!

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I get a code of E0

tender root
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which like any true LED diagnostic list, doesnt tell us anything :D

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most likely that is lack of ram thou

teal ferry
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unfortunately

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alright, RAM next

tender root
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so, one 1 stick

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first slot

teal ferry
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one stick at a time? stolen from me lmao

tender root
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aye

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actually

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how many sticks you got?

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(and boy, are you going to LOVE what i am going to say in a bit)

teal ferry
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I have 4 sticks

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also, new code! Ab

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which is start of BIOS setup

tender root
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Ab <- note it down

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here comes the part you are going to LOVE

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that 1 stick you have

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now move it to the second slot

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then third

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then fourth

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then repeat with all the other sticks

teal ferry
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dont tell me

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put it in every slot

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yup

tender root
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hopefully, you get the exact same message from the LED everytime

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if not, note it, move on

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but again, keep track of all of this

teal ferry
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ok, all 4 sticks are giving me AB still

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ram looks good

tender root
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good to hear

teal ferry
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what next?

tender root
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whatever part you want

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as long as it is ram related

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:D

teal ferry
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i'll put my m.2 in next

tender root
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now, you need to figure out if 2 sticks work at the same time

teal ferry
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I just tried that too

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then 3, and 4

tender root
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good :)

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good good :)

teal ferry
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all sticks are working in all slots

tender root
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then yes, move on the ssd :)

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stop for a sec thou

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"all sticks are working in all slots" <- what about together?

teal ferry
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yup

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that too

tender root
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good

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then yes, keep ram in.

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try the m.2

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and a side question: you hooked to your iGPU ?

teal ferry
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ok with the SSD in I'm getting temp readings after awhile, looks like it posts, and actually atm yeah

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no monitor plugged in yet

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gonna try powering the HDDs next

tender root
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try and see if you get a output from the igpu

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as in, the one in your CPU

teal ferry
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okay, and if not? and yeah ik

tender root
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if not, lets see what happens before we panic :)

teal ferry
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okay

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plugged in, no signal

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should I reboot and double check?

tender root
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hm

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aye

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also, you know how to reset your bios right?

teal ferry
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yeah

tender root
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after the reboot

teal ferry
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VIDEO OUTPUT

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rebooting worked

tender root
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good :)

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so, summary time: what do you know works so far?

teal ferry
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I know the CPU works, all 4 ram sticks work, and the iGPU

tender root
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psu also work

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at least for the loads that you have tried with so far

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okay. so try and give the m.2 a try

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and cross your fingers that didnt get corrupted or something silly like that

teal ferry
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m.2 is good too!

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YES

tender root
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GPU next

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(remember to move the cable from the iGPU

teal ferry
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really, i was gonna do the HDDs next

tender root
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the hdds dont "matter" as such

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yes, they are "nice"

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but not actually essential for you having something to "do" while the PSU is doing its warranty trip

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hence "that" priority, if that makes sense?

teal ferry
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yeah true

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ok peripheral stuff next, then GPU cause it's the most in the way

tender root
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:)

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you can test the hdd(s) if you want

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but there is generally very low chance of them frying from a PSU

teal ferry
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doing anyway to be safe

tender root
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good to see you have been listening :)

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well done @teal ferry :)

teal ferry
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thanks lmao, still going

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not there yet

tender root
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:)

teal ferry
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GPU is WORKING!

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everything is working!

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let's GO

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thank you so much for the advice

tender root
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you are very welcome @teal ferry

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and good job sticking to the very tedious process :)

teal ferry
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yeah, i've laerned to follow directions lmao

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learned*

tender root
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its quite important for stuff like this :)

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just imagine the "fun" you could have had if 1 stick of ram was bad

teal ferry
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oh god

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don't mention it lmao

tender root
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:)

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but it is good to hear that everything that could be possibly hoped for, actually works :)

mild kettle
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how important is a power supply and how do i choose one

chrome iris
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Power supply is very important

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You look for wattage, efficiency, and model

mild kettle
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ok

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anyway i am buying a pre built from ibuypower

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and they are telling me what wattage i need

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its 750 watt

chrome iris
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Okay

mild kettle
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focus

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thats the brand

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and its 80 plus

chrome iris
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Seasonic Focus?

mild kettle
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yeah

chrome iris
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Yep that’s a very good power supply

mild kettle
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ok

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i will go with that

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it also has 80 plus

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so thats 80 plus percent eff

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right?

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efficiancy

chrome iris
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Yeah it’s 80+ gold or platinum, which means it’s more than 80% efficiency

tacit wren
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Yep

chrome iris
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Don’t remember off the top of my head if it’s gold or platinum but both are good

mild kettle
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ok

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thanks

chrome iris
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Yeah no problem

tacit wren
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You might not need the efficiency itself - but the general trend is that a higher rater = a more reliable, higher quality unit.

mild kettle
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yes

tender root
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@mild kettle sorry if the following scares you, but i have just been helping a user earlier today, that had a fairly bad experience with ibuypower

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that does not mean you cannot buy from them

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just make certain you inspect EVERYTHING when it arrives

lofty pewter
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how did they do in the LTT undercover vid again?

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idk if they even did ibuypower, but I think they did

half meadow
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They did do I buy power

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The customer service was so bad they wouldn’t help them

mild kettle
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@tender root I have not ordered yet but I will definetly take your comment into consideration. What is your recommendation? I heard that NZXT is good but is there any other company?

tender root
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@mild kettle just to verify, you are set on doing prebuilt?

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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okay, then please understand the following in a positive way: There is nothing good/bad about what i mentioned

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BUT

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it does mean, you should be aware of the state of your machine when it arrives, because it would seem to indicate that AT TIMES, their quality control process is not up to speed with things

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however!

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that can (and is) true for all companies

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things eff up at times

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that is just reality

mild kettle
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Ok I see

tender root
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hence why i said "that does not mean you cannot buy from them"

mild kettle
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So should I buy from NZXT, cyberpower ibuypower. So many companies to choose from!

tender root
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but i am a firm believer in giving people information so they can make a decision with as much context as possible

mild kettle
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There are so many companies to choose from

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I don’t know which ones good or bad

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Maybe they r all good?

tender root
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and i know the following doesnt help as such. But they all have the capacity to be good and they all have the capacity to be bad

mild kettle
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Ok I understand

tender root
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the best i think we (here in the community) can offer you is this: We will happily look over any specific setup/list you end up with, and offer feedback on it

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but please do show it to us before you order :)

mild kettle
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Ok

tender root
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also, please know/understand: there are no stupid questions, only silly answers

mild kettle
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I am trying to buy RTX 2080 TI 8GB vram 16 x 2 gb ram Corsair, intel i9

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Asus motherboard

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Triple water coolers

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And rgb

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But I am not sure yet

tender root
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that sounds like a almost certain way to get fleeced by the vendor

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but it should be doable if that is what you want

mild kettle
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Ok

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Actually ibuy offered a good price

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It was 3500 CAD

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  • accessories I bought (monitor, router, chair, mouse and desk
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4500CAD

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NZXT offered 4700 CAD and it wasn’t the same specs, actually the specs were worse

tender root
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based on my knowledge, that sounds VERY much like corners are being cut

mild kettle
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Oh

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Yeah maybe

tender root
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try and get a full list from either of them

mild kettle
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Ok

tender root
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and link/show it to me

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and we can talk about it then

mild kettle
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Ok

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I will

tender root
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that makes it much easier to have an actual conversation about it :)

mild kettle
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Ok

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So this is what I customized

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ADATA XPG BATTLECRUISER Tempered Glass Gaming Case - Black
Case Fans Default Case Fan
Case Lighting iBUYPOWER RGB Lighting - [FREE] 1 RGB Lighting Strip
Processor Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor (8x 3.60GHz/16MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling Thermaltake Water 3.0 360 ARGB Sync Edition RGB Liquid Cooling System
Memory 32 GB [16 GB x2] DDR4-3200 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance PRO (RGB LED)
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 - ASUS ROG STRIX (VR-Ready)
Motherboard ASUS PRIME Z390-P -- 802.11ac WiFi, Realtek LAN, USB 3.1 (6 Rear, 4 Front)
Power Supply 750 Watt - Seasonic FOCUS PLUS SSR-750FX - 80 PLUS Gold, Full Modular
Advanced Cabling Options Standard Default Cables
Primary Hard Drive 1 TB Samsung 860 PRO SSD -- Read: 560MB/s, Write: 530MB/s - Single Drive
Sound Card 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System Windows 10 Pro - (64-bit)
Keyboard iBUYPOWER Standard RGB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse iBUYPOWER Gaming Optical Mouse - Multi-Color LED Lighting
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service Standard Service - ships in 3 to 4 weeks

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3400$

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CAD

tender root
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CAD that is right?

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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give me a couple of minutes :)

mild kettle
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Ok

tender root
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@mild kettle the GPU was white?

mild kettle
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Black

tender root
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fair, same price it turns out

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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a bit of background info @mild kettle

mild kettle
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Is this a good system

tender root
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we normally use a site called pcpartpicker for comparing prices and availability

mild kettle
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Ah

tender root
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and i have just plotted your parts into that

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because it pulls prices from multiple stores in, so we dont have to chase all over the place for specific prices

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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with that in mind

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on first look, IF i just put your parts in, it "looks" like it is reasonably priced

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as in, the price from ibuypower is a fair deal under

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like 400-500 CAD

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however

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details matter

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a LOT

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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1 example is the SSD

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lets start with the speed of it

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its slow

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and old

mild kettle
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Oh

tender root
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and did i mention slow?

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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oh yes also expensive as all heck for no actual reason

mild kettle
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I see

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So that’s the problem with buying pre builds

tender root
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its part of it

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you are paying for "convenience"

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"here dear customer, select from these 5 flavours"

mild kettle
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Yes

tender root
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and i have no problem with seeing why people dont want to build their own

mild kettle
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Well I’ve never done so

tender root
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all you need is time

mild kettle
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And I dont want to break it

tender root
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you got the time to jump in a voice chat and quickly go over the details etc?

mild kettle
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Not now

tender root
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would make it much faster to converse about it

mild kettle
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I can’t now

tender root
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no no, no rush :)

mild kettle
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Ok

tender root
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i am not the one looking for a machine :)

mild kettle
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I do have a friend who could help me build tho

tender root
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its merely a "instead of typing out a couple of novels in questions, its quicker to take a chat about it" kind of question :)

tender root
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@lime fog you checked it up against the LTT list?

lime fog
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Id think it’s on there

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Also, it’s just a replacement for my 350w Oem psi

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Psi

tender root
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its a B tier unit

lime fog
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Psu

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Nice

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It’s 60 after rebate

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And I probably can sell the stock one one eBay for 20

tender root
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depending on what you "need" and stock of the CX 2017

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you could get a slightly better unit for less

lime fog
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Out of stock, I’m guessing?

tender root
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2sec, let me check :)

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oh yes, very much out of stock and amazon is taking the wee on it gouging wise

lime fog
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Oh

tender root
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so with that in mind, the one you linked is "solid enough"

lime fog
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Great

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Thx

tender root
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you are very welcome, thank you for coming in with a well thought out question :)

mild kettle
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It’s true that 500 mb is slow

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I want 3000 mb

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That’s fast

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I changed to gigabyte aorus gen 4 5000 mbps

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That’s good

fickle bison
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http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Evolv-ATX-TemperedGlass.html
Im looking at getting this case to replace my current one. I feel like it will work quite nicely for me but was wondering if anyone else had an opinion on it and also know of somewhere actually selling it as it seems a little hit and miss as to where i can get it from (In the UK)

fickle bison
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Im getting the impression the case may be discontinued but im not really too sure so if that could be clarified that would be good too

solid nexus
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What's the best power supply for $60 or less?

tender root
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CX 2017 version

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same answer you have gotten a number of times now @solid nexus

solid nexus
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alright

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@tender root is the evga 450 bq good?

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It has more watts, it's cheaper, and it's semi modular

tender root
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read what i said above :)

solid nexus
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ok

lime fog
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So, I saw a eBay deal, a cx650m for around $70. Is that a good deal? I think it’s brand new

golden kestrel
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No

floral vector
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hey guys i recently started my first pc build and i have the phanteks p400a case which i love and i really enjoy building with it but the fans have 3 ping DRGB yes DRGB connectors on them, but the motherboard i have (the MSIB450 tomahawk max) only has 4 pin input slots, is there anyway i can get the LEDs to plug in, like is there an adapter or fan hub i need to buy???

valid elk
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may pick up a gungnir for my build, because it's a nice, understated case in terms of unicorn vomit lighting and can fit a full size rad in both the front and top

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so many cases these days completely shut rads out of the top slots

elfin trout
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what case does?

pale lichen
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Would anyone know where to order replacement parts for a rackmount case? I have an older one that need a new HDD bracket that got lost.

valid elk
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i mean yeah if you want to spend 500 on a case or get an o11d I guess there's more options lol

meager frost
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so I am very pleased to discover that inverse ATX cases are a thing, cause right now my pc tg window is basically facing the wall unless I wrap cables around the back of the case, I was wondering if anyone has experience with this model, or if they might recommend a better option for an inverse atx layout

jolly root
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Is the corsair 250d still available? That was like a dream case for a server/media closet with its 5.25 bay

eager monolith
jolly root
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Hmmm yeah. I wonder what modern cases replaces it.

eager monolith
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The 280x from corsair looks pretty sick

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But no bay

jolly root
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Oh yeah but.. No bay and the 250d has more space for storage. Yet it's huuuuge

eager monolith
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There's a 250D on ebay from the UK

jolly root
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Yeah I'll have to snag one in the future. 😁

eager monolith
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Good luck

tender root
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@meager frost what you are searching for is cases with reversible motherboard trays

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that should give you some of the older cases that freely swapped layout from side to side

teal ferry
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@lime fog actually about that PSU

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I bought one myself, the toughpoer grand RGB 850W, slightly different model BUT

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mine died in 2 months by means of a very aggressive death. I'm lucky it didn't take anything with it when it died

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I would be careful, that series is supposed to be of higher quality, but i'm not sure. just thought I would let you know my experiences with TT

quiet egret
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I need to buy a good psu to test if my current one is working properly what kind of Wattage should I be looking at for my PSU?
Core i7-9700k
MSI MPG Z390 Carbon Pro AC ATX
Geforce RTX 2070 Super
1 M.2 NVME SSD
1 SATA SSD
2 8GB Ram sticks
Trying to figure out the problem my pc currently has and it's been narrowed down to cpu and psu. So I have already ordered the replacement cpu and I want to order a psu just in case it wasn't the cpu.

lunar hare
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I have a Dell Optiplex, i7... and want to update the graphics card (RX 580). I am looking for 600W PSU that fits into the Dell Optiplex 9020 (case: 14.2 x 6.9 x 16.4). Would be grateful for any recommendations. My main concern is that the PSU fits into the case.

eager monolith
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Hey, I got an optiplex 9010. High five!

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I dunno how easy it'd be to upgrade the PSU on a non-atx standerd Dell case

tender root
lunar hare
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hey nightwielder.... yeah, thats what i am wondering...

quiet egret
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It's sort of the same question, I'm just not sure about the wattage, I currently have a 750 watt

tender root
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@lunar hare which specific case variant do you have?

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@quiet egret anything above 650 is overkill imo

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but, availability might force your hand on that front

lunar hare
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Minitower

tender root
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could you do me a big favour and send me a dm with a picture of the back of machine? @lunar hare

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because there are a number of variants (Dell are LOVELY like that)

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(and yes, that was sarcasm)

lunar hare
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@tender root... working on it... will send it.. awesome

tender root
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thank you @lunar hare

lunar hare
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@tender root i just sent it...

tender root
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2sec

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you are keeping your mainboard right @lunar hare ?

lunar hare
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yes

tender root
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you are out of luck

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@lunar hare i see you here, i was just double checking my memory about it

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its a custom mainboard with custom power delivery that is specific for that PSU

lunar hare
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@tender root as far as i know, there is an adaptor...

tender root
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yes, there would be

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but i am not willing to recommend something like that

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mainly because i have seen and worked with some of the wonky stuff Dell has made over the years

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@tacit wren could you fix permissions for @lunar hare ?

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thank you :)

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you should be able to post links @lunar hare

lunar hare
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@tender root thank you. never mind, was going to post the link for the adaptor. but since you dont think it's a good idea.

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i would still like to try it though.

tender root
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its mainly that there is a potential risk

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and i dont feel comfortable giving you a "go ahead!" on something that can fry a part

lunar hare
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i totally understand... if i did this, it would be my own risk of course.

tender root
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this might sound like i am not willing to help. But please try and understand my POV on this

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i cannot in any way recommend this

lunar hare
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@tender root, it's cool. i totally understand.

tender root
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because someone else will read it, and go "oh cool! that will 100% work" and if their system fries a part or 5 ... it would technically be my fault

lunar hare
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Regardless, i will still need a PSU that fits into the case, even if i get a new board...

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yep, understand

tender root
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It looks like most ATX psu's will fit

lunar hare
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@tender root, thanks a lot man, much appreciated!

tender root
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it might require some jerry-rigging but it should fit

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you can take a measuring tape if you are in doubt/want-to-double-check

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and you are very welcome @lunar hare, best of luck with it, sadly i think you are going to need it

lunar hare
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thanks

tender root
elfin trout
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Oh interesting

tender root
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and that is it

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nothing else power cable wise btw

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as in, no 24 pin

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thought you might want to see it, because we have touched on quirky psu's from time to time

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this is how the actual board looks

elfin trout
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wow

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that 2x4 is main power?

tender root
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aye

tired summit
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If anyone has any Full Tower recommendations let me know! Mostly looking for tempered glass or clear side(s)

hushed yoke
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ive built in that one

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it looks fantastic with all of its glass, and its relatively cheap for what you get considering it has 4 TG panels.

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Plenty of space for everything

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if you dont want the hard drive cages for space for a water pump or something, theres room for hard drives in the back

tired summit
#

That's the one I was looking at actually, thanks for the recommendation!

hushed yoke
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sure thing

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also just a tip, you can fit 3 140mm fans in the front with a super easy case mod that doesnt require drilling or anything

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(normally it fits 3 120mm fans up front or 2 140)

tired summit
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Interesting, thanks

zenith shore
#

anyone got any suggestions on a good rack mountable case? I am wanting to put my Ryzen build in it and figured a "boring" enterprise server would be a good way to make a sleeper that looks like something dull and businesslike but can game it up as I feel like with out looking too much like a gaming PC

jolly root
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I don't think I'll ever justify an ATX build. So many pcie slots that I wouldn't use. I'd rather go itx

knotty blade
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anybody else excited for the new Pure Base 500DX from BeQuiet? or just Me?

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comes with 3 140mm fans as well

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ultra quiet cooling

silver dagger
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i've never heard of it but it looks good

zenith shore
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Looks good, but not for me

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Why is it always so hard to find the information I want on a case or item......though for some odd reason I am always wanting information about something different.....

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anyways hopefully someone might be able to help me get the answer I seek??

On the iStarUSA D-400 Aluminum / Steel 4U Rackmount case, what type of switch is the power switch, I am hoping someone might be able to help me figure it out, it looks like an old style push always on switch, but the wiring tells me it is a momentary switch, perhaps I should just take the risk and place the order?

tender root
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@zenith shore ask Istar about that

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but if memory serves about them, then they are fairly lazy about details on their own page

zenith shore
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I agree, i did attempt to ask, I got more or less a generic lazy reply....

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so I decided I may look at silverstone as I have had a few cases from them in the past and pictures are clear enough to make the decisions I want to make

tender root
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you could also look at older HP rack cases

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or the ones that supermicro uses ..

zenith shore
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would they take a standard mainboard IO shield?

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I also been looking at some super micro cases as well

tender root
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i dont see why they wouldnt

zenith shore
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ok

buoyant breach
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Hey i'm trying to build my first pc and i'm not sure what kind of case to get

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does anyone have any recommendations?

eager monolith
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I really like the ROG helios looks wise

buoyant breach
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That is a nice case but 200 seems pretty steep for a case

eager monolith
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It's big and made of metal. But yeah, pricey

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I'd suggest Crystal Series 680X but it's more

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Maybe like a themaltake case? I've heard good things about those

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Thermaltake S300 Tempered Glass - $80 on amazon
Thermaltake S100 Tempered Glass - $60 on amazon

steel pasture
#

Is an enermax 650 gold not a good high end gaming PSU? I was recommended it from here. Just asking because when I try play high end games it just shuts off without warning, its not a bsod

elfin trout
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@steel pasture gotta say the exact model, I assume enermax revolution d.f, which is a great PSU.

steel pasture
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Yes thats the one

elfin trout
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Because the brand has bad reputation, but they do make a few good/great PSUs.

steel pasture
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I see, so should I get a new PSU?

elfin trout
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are you sure it's a PSU issue?

steel pasture
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Im unsure, but my friends are telling me thats most likely the cause. It doesnt give a warning, no bsod, just shuts off and doesnt attempt to start back up

elfin trout
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People like to blame PSU failure, since that explains a lot of things, but it's usually very rare to have PSU failure.

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That unit should be more than enough for a high end system.

steel pasture
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That is my current build,

elfin trout
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I was just checking, but the enermax d.f should have no problem at all.

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Anyways, can you try running a game with task manager or something you can watch open?

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and see the behavior leading up to the crash?

steel pasture
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@elfin trout everything looked good % and temp wise, i tried playing black desert online however after the first cutscene of creating a character immediatly after the cutscene was done it dies

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I only understand a little bit of event viewer but im not getting enough info to understand why the critical level (kernel-power) happened

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looked at the inside of my pc and everthing is nice and tight to the appropriate manner

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I'll try to run the game again on a slightly lower setting

tender root
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you certain ALL the power plugs are plugged in @steel pasture ?

dire badger
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Hello I don’t know much about PCs and I need a decent case anybody have recomendations?

elfin trout
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Budget?

steel pasture
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Correct I’m certain, I just recieved a bsod one moment

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machine check exception was the stopcode

dire badger
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No more than I’d say 110

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I’m going for a fairly cheap build

elfin trout
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@steel pasture check drivers, make sure to update them all

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aw damn CM H500 is out of stock

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I love that case

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lets see

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P400a should be pretty good @dire badger

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Phanteks

dire badger
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Thank you

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@elfin trout I hate to bother you but could I send you a pm of the parts I want to buy and you tell me if it’s okay or if something won’t work good together?

steel pasture
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@elfin trout Im unsure of what else to update I have done the following:
-Windows updates
-graphics card
-checked each driver manually

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Havent checked the bios though

elfin trout
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@dire badger go ahead

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Kappa, I was suggesting that as that is a possibility for BSODs, but have you OCed anything?

steel pasture
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No I never oc'd I did do the EZ wizard for gaming though thats the only thing i touched past load order when first starting the PC

elfin trout
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Might want to un-do whatever that is lol

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no idea what it is :p

steel pasture
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gotcha its supposed to improve cpu and ram based on what it said

elfin trout
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yea... lets try without it.

steel pasture
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kk

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one moment

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so lesson taught dont use the EZ wizard which DID OC a lot of stuff

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lets see if I can run the game now

elfin trout
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Yea, lets see.

steel pasture
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Ok that fixed it

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ive gotten further than the cutscene now

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and it ALWAYS died at the end of it

elfin trout
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interesting lol

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Try a stress test for stuff still

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Like prime95

steel pasture
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I will try that then

tender root
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@steel pasture would you say that you have learned to question what a button does, BEFORE you press it, might be a good idea? :)

steel pasture
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lol yes ))

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lesson learned

tender root
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good :)

steel pasture
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Thanks again guys!

elfin trout
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You're welcome, but make sure still to stress test stuff in case there's other issues.

steel pasture
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Yes i will in a moment

elfin trout
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(You can use prime95 for CPU, and furmark for GPU if you don't have any stress tests that you know)

alpine fox
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Man, I hope the Phanteks case I was eyeing comes back into stock.

scenic lance
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any great looking all white mid-size towers?

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already know about the NZXT cases so anything else but them

tender root
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@scenic lance Fractal Design does some

eager monolith
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@scenic lance Spec Omega RGB looks pretty epic. Not very fun to work with and small tho

fringe holly
#

does anyone know of a place where I can buy a new/lightly used NZXT S340 Elite?

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i just missed my chance to buy one a long time ago and i would sincerely love one

lofty pewter
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Cooling perf of that is quite bad and I wouldnt recommend it

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bad airflow basicaly

eager monolith
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The NZXT you mean?

lofty pewter
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yes

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S340 Elite

warped sigil
#

Has anyone here used a Metallic Gear Neo Air ATX?

golden kestrel
#

I am so ridiculously jealous of the td500 mesh

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I have the non mesh one peepoSadSip

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I think it will actually be the best case on the market for mid size rgb stuff

elfin trout
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p400a too

golden kestrel
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I'm a cooler faster fan bay tho

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P400a is a better price but td500 has better features

elfin trout
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I'm a coolermaster fanboy too lmao

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I love the td500 and H500

golden kestrel
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Some of the best

surreal magnet
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no selling here dawg

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against da rules

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what you COULD do is list it on facebook marketplace and post it in #tech-deals

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or mercari

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or offerup

golden kestrel
#

can i get a recomendation on a decent 550w - 650w psu thats instock rn and modular

tropic dune
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@golden kestrel i have a CORSAIR RM Series RM650 CP-9020194-NA 650W, currently in stock and $115

golden kestrel
#

I saw that one

golden kestrel
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thx for pointing that out. i always forget which one it is

elfin trout
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dayum its still in stock?

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there was 22 yesterday so I asssumed they ran out by now

tender root
#

damn, i was very wrong about that, or rolling stock updates hit again

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IF that one stays in stock over the next ... 3-4 days

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that is something i am quite willing to look at as a good sign

elfin trout
#

Yea...

deep forum
elfin trout
#

why intel

plain sluice
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& ide wait for new chips to hit market, including AMD's.. should see price drops imho

lofty pewter
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buy AMD CPU, sell GPU, and could get a 2080S. And if you didnt buy an overpriced cooler or RAM then a 2080Ti. Overall same price

golden kestrel
#

^

past hollow
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What is the best psu for the 2070 super

elfin trout
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Depends on budget

past hollow
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Under 550

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For graphic card

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And psu 150

elfin trout
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Enermax Revolution d.f. 650w.

deep forum
#

Should i get the Ryzen 9 3950X or i9 9900k?

elfin trout
#

For what

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What do you do

deep forum
#

Gaming

elfin trout
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Budget?

deep forum
#

Not really

elfin trout
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(what is your budget)

deep forum
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I have like no budget

elfin trout
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...?

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like what is upper limit

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2000$, 3000$, etc?

deep forum
#

My dad is buying all this for me

elfin trout
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Ask him how much he is willing to pay

deep forum
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for cpu like 800 or lower

elfin trout
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Overall?

deep forum
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I already have the graphics card, case probably 2k?

lofty pewter
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@deep forum Ill recommend this again as you missed it I guess
buy AMD CPU (3700x), sell GPU, and could get a 2080S. And if you didnt buy an overpriced cooler or RAM then a 2080Ti. Overall same price

deep forum
#

You really think i should sell my 2070 Super?

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@lofty pewter

elfin trout
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If you can sell it off now or return it now, it's prob a good idea.

deep forum
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I had it for a few months

flint laurel
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in a few months they will announce the 3000 series

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most likely

lofty pewter
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@deep forum you have a high enough budget for a 3600+2080Ti / 3700x+2080Ti

golden kestrel
#

Does a 3600 and 2080ti bottleneck tho?

sharp fox
#

I'd 3700x

golden kestrel
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Idk you might be able to do it with a 3600x but a 3600 seems like a stretch

flat eagle
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not much difference with x and non

golden kestrel
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Ya ig

vocal talon
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3600 doesnt bottleneck a 2080 ti, 3700x vs 3600 have pretty close framerates in the majority of games

sharp fox
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also it depends, it could be more of a bottleneck if you turn down visual settings to get most fps

lofty pewter
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I see people using 1440p with a 2080Ti, to which you don't really notice any difference between a 3600 and 3700x

left siren
#

about to ask a stupid question. someone built me a pc and i'm trying to find out what case I have is there any way that i can find out what case I have without directly asking the person who built the pc?

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its got like a green tiger logo the inside

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idk what it is

flat eagle
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DM me a picture of it

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I'll post it here

flat eagle
left siren
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ignore the dirty room lol

flat eagle
#

I want to say that looks like the CyberPowerPC logo?

left siren
#

i was thinking in my head aurous

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how ever u spel it

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spell

flat eagle
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Aorus

left siren
#

ye

flat eagle
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er nop

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IBuyPower

left siren
#

ohh

flat eagle
#

does taht look like it

left siren
#

yeah kinda

golden kestrel
#

That would be my guess

copper veldt
#

hey

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NZXT H500/deepcool Earlkase RGB White/Phanteks PH-EC300/ In win 101

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I really like the In Win 101 because it is very cheap in Romania

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and a nice case

alpine fox
#

... the case I want looks like it has a good sale with a rebate going on. I'm almost tempted to jump on it, even if I won't be buying the rest of the parts until June. It's not like letting the case sit for a month would hurt it.

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And... I sort of think I need to buy one thing to commit myself. Otherwise I might just keep dithering about it for eternity.

light wyvern
#

any cases under 50 with rbg and tempered glass?

tender root
#

that you actually want to use?

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no

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(that is my personal take on it)

golden kestrel
#

I agree

alpine fox
#

I still like my choice of case better. I mean, it's not like I'll be running a 3900 and RTX 2080 in it.

light wyvern
#

No to resell

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I need good photos rgb is everything

golden kestrel
#

Might be better off getting an ok build quality case and a cheap pack of rgb fans/ strips

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Something like the darkflash matx

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Idk of any cheap cases that have rgb fans in them.

fluid pine
#

Wanted to order the NZXT H510 case today, out of stock everywhere :/

elfin trout
#

focus g

tropic dune
#

Looking for a white or white/black case that has a Stormtrooper (Star Wars) feel to it, any recommendations that will not cost me an arm or a leg, or my soul? lol

lyric glade
#

nzxt h510 or h700

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theres always the i versions of those aswell

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and a lian li o11 dynamic is also a very nice white case

hushed yoke
#

@lyric glade best techie

tropic dune
#

thanks for those options, i will check them out @lyric glade

timber steeple
half meadow
#

@timber steeple 1518 for the entire build+monitor and peripherials or just tower itself

timber steeple
#

I need the whole build including monitor but I don’t need mouse and keyboard

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@half meadow

half meadow
#

ok

open iris
#

so i got the aerocool strikex-air case and this thing is huge that I cant fully fit it under my desk horizontally

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can I turn the case on its side or is that a thing that shouldn't be done

sacred fable
#

as long as ur coolings good u should be fine

half meadow
#

that'll work for gaming

open iris
#

@sacred fable its open air case

native pier
#

Is cooler master mb311L a good case?

golden kestrel
#

I'm pretty sure it's not released yet but I have high expectations for it

native pier
#

Oh

golden kestrel
#

It has just about everything you could want in a matx build tho. Psu shroud, raidiator support, 2 fans included (aRGB btw), glass side panel, etc

native pier
#

Yea it sounds like a great buy

golden kestrel
#

Indeed

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Very competitive price aswell

rose rapids
#

Quick question will the front usb and usbc from panels on the h510 nzxt work when I plug them in to the mother board or will I need a new cable for that

lyric glade
#

they should work if u plug them directly to the motherboard

oak pebble
#

how do I know how many watts my psu should have for my build

tender root
#

simple or long answer @oak pebble ?

oak pebble
#

whichever helps me get the best performance/stability out of it

tender root
oak pebble
#

does it matter how much higher I go? like if I get 600 recommend then I probably wouldnt need like 1200w supply right?

tender root
#

imo, anything above 650 is way overkill

tacit wren
#

Ya, but it wouldn't really hurt.
If you want to spend more for 100% silence from the psu, most won't need to use the fan < 1/3 rating.

tender root
#

(but, it is very much a personal preference thing, because it depends entirely on your future plans etc etc etc)

elfin trout
#

Theres also passive cooled PSUs if you care that much bout noise

oak pebble
#

aight thanks everyone

tacit wren
#

EVGA 1600 T2 is passive until 620W load 😆

elfin trout
#

Lmao

tacit wren
elfin trout
#

Yes

placid steeple
#

okay thank you

blissful pagoda
#

any recommendations on rgb case fans ? budget is around 65 and looking for at least 4 fans

lyric glade
#

i would but everything is out of stock

rose flint
#

Howdy all. I'm in way over my head with a replacement of a PSU to my desktop. Was wondering if someone might be able to offer up some advice

lyric glade
#

whats in your pc @rose flint that may help give some suggestions

neat river
#

I have a question. Would I be able to use a regular multimeter to check if a power supply is working? I am building a PC for someone and it isnt booting or even trying to turn on. I want to find out of the power supply is working at all

scenic lance
#

Is a 500 watt psu compatible with the XFX Radeon RX 580 8 gb the xxx version?

teal ferry
#

@tender root got my refund from amazon for the power supply! yay 😄

neat river
#

Same question I asked last night. Can I use a multimeter to check if my psu is working and if I can how would I do that

tender root
#

@teal ferry good to hear :)

teal ferry
#

@neat river you can, I would use your ATX power connector on your board, you're gonna want to find a grounding pin and connect your grounding lead into that, then use the other end to test the voltages, you need 3.3V, 5V, and 12V

#

make sure the computer is on, and the connector is plugged into your board

#

anything those values or close to them should be o

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ok*

#

so like 3.2, 5.1, and 12.3 would all be ok numbers, anything within .1-.2 I would say should be ok

#

if it doesn't turn on then you might have an issue elsewhere, at that point you should use a PSU tester, they're pretty cheap if you don't have one

neat river
#

okay because even shorting the pins for the power switch on the mobo does nothing

teal ferry
#

yeah I think you'll have to try something else

#

a PSU tester might work but idk

#

you could do what Naed had me do, strip the whole thing down to just the board and the CPU, try and turn it on

neat river
#

I think my friend might have a PSU tester. I will see if he can help me

hollow willow
#

is the Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case

#

a good case?

neat river
#

looks like a fine case... I would just maybe get another case fan or 2 because its only got 1 if i remember correctly from when i was researching cases

stray crater
#

Does anyone own a lian li O11 Dynamic XL? I’d like to get the rough width and height of the front tempered glass panel. Plan to do some glass etching and want to start planning out the size before I get my hands on one.

flat eagle
#

@grand ether ?

grand ether
#

why am i being pinged DeadInside

flat eagle
#

it's pretty obvious 😦

grand ether
#

i dont have the XL version

flat eagle
#

oh.

#

best estimate I can give ya

stray crater
#

I think I can guesstimate the aspect ratio from this. Which will work too! Thanks!!

tender root
#

@stray crater doesnt the manufacturers site have a manual with the numbers?

tacit wren
#

That is a thicccc rad on the bottom.

golden kestrel
#

That monster is thicker than my psu

placid steeple
#

anyone know of any good psu’s that are actually in stock rn

hushed yoke
#

i wouldnt get it

#

not trustworthy.

burnt cave
#

recomend any \

#

?*

elfin trout
#

@hushed yoke surprising, that PSU, if new, is fairly good according to the tier list

hushed yoke
#

rm750x would be my recommendation off the top of my head, but EVGA and SeaSonic are both good brands

#

im just voicing my personal opinion, that listing looks bad to me on amazon.

elfin trout
#

yea the listing looks terrible

eager monolith
elfin trout
#

G2 is a great PSU

lofty pewter
#

Well, this guy changed his mind a bit later on about his reaction to this. But it is still questionable for P2/G2
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/585894-why-you-should-not-purchase-the-evga-g2-lineup-especially-in-homes-with-frequent-brownouts/

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Basically after a while his conclusion changed to "may not matter as much because terrible voltage for a few ms may not matter" more or less. But there really isnt any proof on whether it's bad or good

#

So, questionable I guess, for home use

chrome egret
#

@neat river I had a what I thought was a bad power supply got one from ebay direct replacement put it in and still nothing. it was doing what's yours is doing so reading a troubleshooting guide I stripped the motherboard down to the board and cpu and began methodically plugging items back in each time powering it up, so in my case what it ended up being was 1 stick of memory was bad Ended buying this oem replacement power supply off ebay for nothing.

placid steeple
#

@eager monolith i’m not sure i’ll need a 1300 psu tbh

golden kestrel
#

Why on earth would you need a 1300w psu?

#

What could you possible be running off that, threadripper with dual titans?

late bobcat
#

Idk, but 80 dollars for it is a great deal

golden kestrel
#

Its open box

#

Thats a no from me

flat eagle
#

nothing wrong with openbox

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but not from ebay

eager monolith
#

Yeah lol, just cheap

#

Open Box is usually a great way to save money

#

Like I wouldn't do an open box cpu, but like a PSU

elfin trout
#

Quite interesting

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@flat eagle open box PSUs can be sketchy for missing cables

ripe zenith
#

any recommendations for a 500-600 watt psu?

chrome iris
#

Corsair CX550

elfin trout
#

CX 450 is in stock right now @ripe zenith

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If you're looking at 500-600, 450w should be alright

chrome iris
#

I have an EVGA 600GD but everybody here absolutely bashes me and says I should’ve gotten a better one

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I like it personally

elfin trout
#

@chrome iris git better psu

chrome iris
#

My point exactly 😂

elfin trout
#

Lol

chrome iris
#

I mean it has a five year warranty so that’s not too bad

#

Ooh @ripe zenith
SeaSonic Prime gold 550w

#

Prime gold 550w has a super long warranty and it’s really nice

#

I’ve used it in a build for someone

hollow willow
#

would you say thats a good case?

chrome iris
#

Has 4.5 stars for reviews

#

It’s EATX

#

Looks like front panel airflow might be a little restrictive

elfin trout
#

@chrome iris you need to look for stuff that's in stock now

#

Every God damn PSU is going out of stock

chrome iris
#

Oh yeah I didn’t look at anything I’m just saying stuff off the top of my head

#

Sorry

elfin trout
#

Like

#

Anything from CX to D.F is out of stock

ripe zenith
#

i’m trying to finish my bike and the only thing i have left is my psu

chrome iris
#

Yeah I get it

ripe zenith
#

but like you said most psus are out of stock

chrome iris
#

What CPU and GPU you got?

ripe zenith
#

ryzen 5 3600 and rtx 2060

chrome iris
#

That can run on a 450w right?

#

Hold on

#

Eeeh I personally would get a 500w

#

NVIDIA recommends a 500w

elfin trout
#

Ignore Nvidia reccomendations imo :p

#

It's what 65w CPU draw, ~200w GPU draw

#

Add in 70w system draw which is average

chrome iris
#

I mean I’ve seen an RX 570 run on a 400w before and it’s recommended for a 450w. I was saying it’s my personal preference... just to be safe.

#

@elfin trout is smarter than me though lol

elfin trout
#

225w MAX

#

From the power connector on the rtx 2060

chrome iris
#

Yeah it’s only got an 8 pin

elfin trout
#

It's 75w from pcie power, 150w from 8 pin.

ripe zenith
#

oh and the gpu is gonna be oc does that change anything?

chrome iris
#

How heavily are you gonna overclock it?

elfin trout
#

Nope

#

It can't possibly draw more lmao

chrome iris
#

Just out of curiosity

elfin trout
#

Pcie 8 pin can only supply 150w

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Pcie slot can only supply 75w

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Like

ripe zenith
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it says it’s normally oc

elfin trout
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Unless you somehow overclock the wires and the slot xD

ripe zenith
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it’s the msi ventus oc

elfin trout
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It can't draw power from the air

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The max it can draw from the slot and the power connector is 225w

ripe zenith
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alright

tacit wren
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The 6/8 pin connectors have no hard limits on power draw themselves.
Power limits are almost entirely controlled by the nividia vbios and a microcontroller on the pcb that reads current through each of the shunt resistors.

elfin trout
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Interesting

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because I've been told 150w max from a single 8 pin

tacit wren
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That's the rating - but it's not enforced by anything in the PSU or the cables, nor does the motherboard limit slot power to 75W.

RX480's are infamous for pulling 100W from the board.
https://i.imgur.com/6jbiFGm.png

elfin trout
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huh

thick vale
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I need a PSU

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Pretty bad

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Which are in stock?

chrome iris
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What wattage?

willow hollow
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what wattage would be able to run a 2600x and 5700xt?

elfin trout
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Can you wait

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PSUs are like all OOS

willow hollow
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would my 500w be able to support it

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or is that too much of a stretch lol

sleek herald
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What are the repercussions for having an underpowered psu?

tropic dune
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looking online: "If you choose a PSU with too little wattage, your system will shut off when it draws more power than the PSU can feed it. ... Every new component will change how many watts your system needs to keep running."

ripe zenith
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so what’s wrong with evga power supply’s?

lofty pewter
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@elfin trout companies that use the PSU cables will go by that ATX rating, but as Forks said it isn't physically set. So unless by failure (like RX480) no GPU on default settings will pull more from the slot/cable then that ATX spec defines. Idk if just OCing and pushing power limit can affect that. But it is at least 225w max no matter what on default settings for 2060(S?).

honest rose
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I my self would go with a 800 wt. I run a AX1200i with mine 1080ti extreme in sli and 19 7860x w 64 gigs ddr4 oc

lofty pewter
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A quality 800w+ is much more expensive then a quality 550w/650w and for the average user who even wants to get a 3950x+2080Ti and OC it, 650w is plenty

tacit wren
lavish cove
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What would be a nice looking case with good air flow under $80 USD

vocal tree
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what kind of board is that made for Forks 😳

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something server, I know that much

tacit wren
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23 pair connector compatible supermicro chasis

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tbh - the 920w psu's are far more compatible since they use the 19 pair connector

vocal tree
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interesting

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is this an adaptor that turns it into normal atx connectors?

tacit wren
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That's a PDB that normally comes with a case like the fat twin, sc846 etc (it's built in)

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You just slide the PSU into the slot and it locks into place, connecting to the PDB

vocal tree
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neat

tacit wren
vocal tree
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smh Forks stop flexing 😔

tacit wren
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This is an sc846 with dual 920 plats - but I took this vid a bit ago just to show how convenient it is to install/remove parts

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I don't see it as a flex since all that stuff - I bought on ebay for pennies on the dollar vs consumer hardware

vocal tree
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I'm just messing :)

tacit wren
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I'm just flexin' 😆

vocal tree
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xd

tacit wren
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Those satisfying clicks though as the parts slide into place

sharp fox
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forky with the flex

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😔

vocal tree
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wish I had room for rack mount stuff

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I need to sell things

sharp fox
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I wish I had a server

tacit wren
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I don't actually have a server rack, I just put stuff on shelves I bought off chinese ebay on sale

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4u is just a great case design for something you don't actively have to look at - air goes in the front, comes out the back, ez

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Most fans, hdd's, psu's, even cpu coolers etc are all modular and tool-less to install/remove. ezpz

vocal tree
tacit wren
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Ya, high quality 4u cases are generally pretty heavy, 20-40 lbs without any hdd's, mobo, cpu etc - so shipping is inherently high.

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My very first build bought from newegg I built in some norco 4u with a core 2 duo and 8800 gts 512 lol.
Great high school computer.

vocal tree
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nice

tacit wren
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If you're looking for something in particular, lmk and I'll shoot you an ebay deal if I come across one

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I browse that kind of stuff often.

vocal tree
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ok 👀

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thanks fam

sharp fox
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yikes

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when shipping is more expensive than the item itself

silver dagger
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fr

vague hatch
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So, I've been using this case for a couple years now
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Carbide-Series™-SPEC-01-Red-LED-Mid-Tower-Gaming-Case/p/CC-9011050-WW
The case is fine, but as of late the side panels are harder and harder to get back into place due to mismanagement on my part. They still fit, but it takes a few good wacks for it to properly stay there. Now that I actually have some funds to spare, should I get a new PC case or stick with what I've got?

lyric glade
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R u utilizing those disc slots lol

mossy remnant
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@lavish cove I haven't played with all the cases out there, but I absolutely love my Cougar Gemini S, which is around the $80 price point, if you haven't found one already that is.

placid steeple
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any recommendations for a 650w psu that’s actually in stock rn

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and preferably 80+ gold

elfin trout
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@placid steeple no

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all of them are oos

placid steeple
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that’s so sad

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i’ve been looking for one for like a week

bleak python
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I decided on the Phantek Enthoo Pro Tempered Glass, although after seeing it I think I want something different. So back to the drawing board. What’s a good case less than $200 with good airflow for a 3900x (stock cooler for now) and rtx2080super EVGA gaming black.

hollow willow
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Yea eBay is good just gotta be a little careful cause things might not work

vague hatch
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Sorry for not answering Randall. I do use them sometimes, but if it's something that needs to go I can manage

lyric glade
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@vague hatch heres a case on newegg right now thats pretty popular and still has 2 disc slots

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just a suggestion but a new case is always nice if the other is causing you trouble

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if not you can put the money twards better hardware

lofty pewter
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@eager monolith Dont recommend used PSUs. You have no clue in what state the PSU is in and asking for a pic of it working is basically useless because that barely tells you anything other then it turns on. Even if A+ tier it's possible for a PSU to kill components from being a lemon which puts risk quite high as at used markets people dont worry as much on quality control. So it is a fair bit more risk involved. Then there is the fact that they are old PSUs with probs little lifespan left. Then there is the fact that there are multiple models of PSUs. That TX one you sent is an old model. A lot of the PSUs when sorted from lowest price in eBay are just old models of PSUs. Old CXM/TX, rest are simply bad models/series all together. Few G3s there that when new can sometimes be worth it

eager monolith
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There is risk involved, as with most used electronics. However, to completely dismiss used markets for PSU isn't particularly wise either. Some sellers might list these PSUs without testing, yes, but most of the listings state "pulled from a working system." If you do get a bad one, well that sucks, but it isn't so likely as you make it out to be. You've gotta be smart and make sure you are buying from a decent seller, but that's just purchasing common sense (as in, don't buy from someone with 50% positive reviews). I bought my PSU from eBay used, and it works just fine. I'd say the risk isn't as bad as you make it out to be provided you are smart, and you can save a hefty sum from a new item.

If it is faulty, you can at least get a refund for the item. For sure, it would suck if you fried your mobo, but I'd doubt that that happens very often. I've bought two working PSUs online, and my brother has bought at least three with no issues. Also, not all psu failures will damage your mobo. It is a risk you gotta be aware of, oc. It does hold more risk than other used tech components, but I'm still going to buy my PSUs used whenever I'm in the market for one.

With regard to the older models, you gotta do your research. My bad for recommending an old model if it isn't actually a higher tier choice, probably should have looked at that more

lofty pewter
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You arent just risking mobo damage. You're risking entire system damage. The chances of someone giving a lemon PSU or modded (say replaced the fan without saying and messing up the mod to potentially break the PSU) is a fair bit higher then just getting new. Sure it still isnt that high in general, but it certainly is decently sketchy to say the least. I can like the used market, but I normally dont recommend used PSUs or storage much. Pretty easy to lie and no proof can truly be given for not lying.

golden kestrel
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Of all the parts I wouldn't want to buy used, the psu is definitely #1 on my list

eager monolith
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Like I said, valid point to consider, but you'll be perfectly fine if you get a decent seller. It's often pretty clear if a item has been treated well from the photos. To each their own, but I'm think it isn't that large a risk. It's very bad situation if you do get a bad one, but the probability of getting a bad one when buying used from reputable sellers isn't very high. This isn't wish.com, it's ebay.

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Smart sellers (generally the ones with better feedback ratios) on eBay/Amazon state the actual condition of the item or exaggerate the flaws. Especially with high value items, returns are a mess for both parties. The seller will loose money on shipping both ways and have a worthless item and they risk negative feedback.

lofty pewter
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Thing is do these sellers know much about PSUs? Test it at full load to make sure it actually works at said load for example rather then just test to see if the PC boots or have a 300w system with a 750w PSU not being able to fully test it?

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Or actual PSU tester for checking to see if things are in spec

lyric glade
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yall rly wrote whole essays

lofty pewter
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Well, PSUs are a sensitive topic around here

eager monolith
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That's a fair point. Still, there's a good chance it could have been removed from a personal rig for an upgrade.
Probably a good portion of the used listings on eBay for those are person ones. It's risky if you get a seller who buys items from liquidation auctions or the like and sellers them without proper testing.
But most listings are probably personal. Big retailers who normally sell new items usually liquidate returns

lyric glade
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dont cheap out on a psu

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thats like the 1# rule lmao

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just spend the extra 30 dollars for it new its not gonna kill ya

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but buying it used could kill ur system

hushed yoke
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used psu fine if the seller is reputable and its a good psu...

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i think at least.

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just dont get a cheapo psu with no rating/brand lol

lyric glade
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i mean its not something to get so pressed over its like just suck it up and spend the extra 20 dollars ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hushed yoke
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if its $20 more for a better psu for whever reason, then yeah id do it

eager monolith
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Well yeah, but you can get like new PSUs for half retail

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Like I'm considering getting a used ax1200i for $109

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No cables but still a steal

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I'm not advocating cheaping out on a PSU, just to consider used C or above PSUs

elfin trout
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Used PSU too risky for me

lofty pewter
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@eager monolith What generation AXI tho? Could very well be 2013 AXI which could be getting close to it's end of life

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All AXI are great, but still possible to get a very old one that because of usage isnt good

eager monolith
lofty pewter
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2013/2014 based on pics at least

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idk how to tell whether it's 2013 or 2014 tho without model #

eager monolith
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Still probably gonna go for it. I wanna have headroom for upgrades and overclocking. Looks to be like new and I can use the hx750i I already have on my sister build

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Yeah

lofty pewter
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but def not 2018 cuz not grey labeled

eager monolith
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75-00084 is model

thorny shell
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yo what up my broskis

eager monolith
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Sup

scenic lance
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Difference

vocal tree
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Uh oh

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Thermaltake Smart

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Hei save me from the Smart

vocal talon
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thermaltake smart arent really great

flat eagle
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don't cheap out on psu

sharp fox
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never

elfin trout
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neva

flat eagle
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eva

golden kestrel
chrome iris
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I'm gonna get yelled at for asking, but is the Antec Value Power Plus 500w a decent enough power supply?

silver dagger
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for what parts?

chrome iris
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Eh depends. CPU is gonna be i7-930, GPU will be one of these three: RX 470, RX 570, r9 280

silver dagger
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yeah i think it should be, u might want to double check with someone else just to be sure

eager monolith
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It's not on the tier list...

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And the value in the name doesn't inspire confidence in its quality

elfin trout
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It's on the tier list.

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vp-p

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Tier D

chrome iris
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I actually talked with Jonnyguru himself, listing a bunch of power supplies in my budget, (such as random EVGA 80+ and 80+ bronze, Thermaltake smart (Which I know is bad) and a few others along with the Antec VP plus) and he said the Antec was the "least offensive" power supply I listed and would be okay to power a system like mine

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I'm just coming here as a final recommendation to see if it will be okay in a system like the one I have listed

sharp fox
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tier d

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very nice

elfin trout
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least offensive is uh

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yea

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lmao

willow hollow
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can u maybe go for corsair cv450 maybe?

chrome iris
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This is going in a budget PC flip... the desktop I'm flipping that has the i7 in it is like $70...

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I'm not about to spend like $70 on a PSU

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I just need something that will last for a little while in a budget used parts system

elfin trout
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cx

chrome iris
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I'm okay getting a PSU refurbished too

willow hollow
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its like 57$ on newegg

chrome iris
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?

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Can I get the link to it

elfin trout
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cv is tier c sooo