#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 29

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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something in between?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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ATX sized

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or mid tower rather

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its the same or similar anyways

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ok

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budget?

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or rough idea for a budget at least @plucky creek

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:19 PM

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uh

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my whole build is like 1500 usd

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or more

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:19 PM

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okay

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let me grab a link for you then

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https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1506 <- keep in mind, there are different colours

be quiet!

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z6VD4D/be-quiet-silent-base-601-window-orange-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw25

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last link is so you can see the price

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and yes, it is not cheap, but it is lovely to build in

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:22 PM

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lemme check if its available in my country real quick

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alright

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it is

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thanks

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:23 PM

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that is the higher end of things

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and that one should be considered an investment that will last at least 2-3 builds

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so in a way you could say the price is divided by 2-3

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if that makes sense for you?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:24 PM

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yeah

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of course

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:24 PM

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better to ask than assume :)

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have you assembled a list of the rest of your machine build?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yes, im not sure about the gpu tho

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heard that amd drivers are still buggy

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:28 PM

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you willing to talk about the build? or would you rather take it piece by piece and make up your own mind?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:29 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9xMCrV

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here

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@tender root

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i already bought an ssd, so im not including it in the list

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

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you are not located in the states?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:30 PM

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no

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i mean

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yes im not in the us

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lol

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

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:)

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before i start talking, is there a specific reasons for the parts you have chosen?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:32 PM

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i chose a noctua cooler because i heard that they make good coolers

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i decided to go with amd this time too

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

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in case it is faster/easier for you, we can do this in voice chat. that is your choice

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

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we can do this in the chat

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i cant speak currently

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

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fair fair, you are the "customer"

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:)

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

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:)

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so, should i step the budget up and get a 2070 super or should i stick to either the 5700 xt or the 2060 super

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:35 PM

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depends on what you are planning to "do" with the machine?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:35 PM

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just gaming

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:36 PM

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what resolution are you planning for?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:36 PM

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1080p but im planning to get a 1440p monitor in the future

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:36 PM

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okay

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you mentioned a ssd earlier?

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which one?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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i got an m.2 ssd

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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sabrent?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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PNY

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it was on sale, so i went with that one

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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kk

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fair enough

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so, with all of the above in mind.

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any reason for that specific mainboard?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:40 PM

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not really, but i probably will upgrade in the future

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i know x570 is overkill

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for a ryzen 5 3600

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:40 PM

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i ask because it is not a very good price for it

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mind telling me your country so i can set pcpartpicker to that ?

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because of availability

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(you can just pm me the country if you dont want to say it here)

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:41 PM

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i live in poland

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:42 PM

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okay

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hello semi neighbour then (denmark here)

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i also can go to germany if the prices for components are going to be lower there

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ok

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your budget was 1500 usd or euro?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:46 PM

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usd

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:47 PM

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give me a moment please :)

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do you need wifi btw?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:48 PM

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no, not really

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@plucky creek https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/MZNzZf

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that is a start

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a fair number of parts have been shifted around

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the main loss is the wifi

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ram is double, cpu is the model above, because it was 20 euro more

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mainboard is a different model that does the same for about half the price

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cpu is the X model, because it was 2 euro more

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added the case to the list

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 7:00 PM

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alright

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that seems good

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i had it set to germany, because it doesnt pickup any stores in poland

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and yes, the PSU is overspecced as it is right now

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consider it an investment like the case

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 7:03 PM

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yeah the psu seems a bit overkill but its not a huge one

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 7:04 PM

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reason for my preference of seasonic is the 10 year warranty on it

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 7:04 PM

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thats nice

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i didnt even know that my ssd has a 5 year warranty

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 7:04 PM

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which again goes back to the "investment" angle etc etc

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:)

lofty pewter Jan 5, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@tender root isn't MSI A pro not that great?

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Also tbh if you're going 850w I'd get higher end than the Seasonic focus gold, but idk availability

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 7:29 PM

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plat is the one the person is looking at currently, because availability

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the A Pro is fine, deployed a lot of them since they launched

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it has the "odd" double EPS "stuff" on it

lofty pewter Jan 5, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Isn't a pro meh as x570, even on the cheap side?

tacit wren Jan 5, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I thought the a pro used 4 x 2 sic 639

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 7:32 PM

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not really just average.

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basically, you get what you pay for.

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it does however have a decent onboard etc etc etc

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sound*

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 8:53 PM

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i'll probably go for the asus prime x570-p

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its slightly more expensive

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5 euro more or something

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 8:58 PM

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availability @plucky creek ?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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i mean, its available here

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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and the other was not?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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it was

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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fair enough, it is your choice :)

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 8:59 PM

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but i saw some benchmarks and the temps on the msi board were pretty high

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 9:00 PM

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aye aye

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you get what you pay for :)

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still, just for the lurkers, that does not mean it is a bad board. It can work perfectly fine as it is designed.

latent quiver Jan 6, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@lofty pewter is the cosair cxm 550w semi mod a good psu?

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I can send you my list if you want to look at my build

lofty pewter Jan 6, 2020, 6:47 PM

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cxm isnt that great. CX would be better. Unfortunately there isnt really any decent budget semi/fully modular PSUs for cheap

latent quiver Jan 6, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Alright

tender root Jan 6, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Thank you @lofty pewter (i pushed him towards you for that question)

tacit wren Jan 6, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Good for the price if you got $50 to spare. Should run near silent and cold for years to come https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y9tQzy/evga-pq-850w-80-platinum-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-210-pq-0850-x1

lofty pewter Jan 6, 2020, 6:49 PM

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np. Tho cheapest PSU with fully modular (no semi mod that are good for this price) is this. $80
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4m3mP6/fsp-group-hydro-ge-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hge550

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PQ would be better, if you got the money

tacit wren Jan 6, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Personally I like having the headroom to do all but game without pushing the psu into fan>0rpm load range, but I run the fan anyway 🤷‍♂️

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I'd go with that FSP as well

static sigil Jan 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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So I know what fuly modular means, but in reference of PSUs, what does it actually mean?

lofty pewter Jan 7, 2020, 12:19 AM

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All it means it that you can disconnect the cables from the PSU. To be able to remove all the cables that you dont use

static sigil Jan 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Ah

latent quiver Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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k

vocal talon Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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semi modular is the same as modular you just can’t remove the 24 pin mobo cable, and non modular you can’t remove any

hardy ridge Jan 7, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Would there ever be a case in which you wouldn't use the 24pin?

glacial needle Jan 7, 2020, 3:13 AM

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arent there older mobos that use less

barren basin Jan 7, 2020, 3:19 AM

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There are OEM boards that could use 16 to 20 pin connection instead of 24

glacial needle Jan 7, 2020, 3:38 AM

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what is the smallest possible micro atx case possible? google says nzxt 400i but it looks bigger than my last 2 cases and i have a bunch of spare parts i wanna turn into a media pc

barren basin Jan 7, 2020, 3:42 AM

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the smallest would pretty much not have room for a GPU

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This would be one of the smallest >_< https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147239

glacial needle Jan 7, 2020, 3:44 AM

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i know there was a super tiny one for itx that allowed for gpu but iir it was also pricy plus i dont wanna have to buy a new mobo lol. but yeah id be talking that allows for a gpu

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wait that one looks like it /might/ be able to fit a gpu

barren basin Jan 7, 2020, 3:45 AM

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It would but it has to be a low profile

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wont fit standard types

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This is another one but again would need a low profile GPU https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811108425

glacial needle Jan 7, 2020, 3:50 AM

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i just realized that building a case almost the size of a micro atx wouldn't be possible cause of gpu and such

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not gpu, psu.

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like id need room for psu and hard drives and such which i wasn't thinking about size wise lol

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oof and mini itx fm2+ boards are expensive now

barren basin Jan 7, 2020, 3:54 AM

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You can find used versions for much less money

glacial needle Jan 7, 2020, 3:54 AM

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where does one search for used parts

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i mean, ebay is one i guess. but im afraid of getting dead parts lol

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idk if its worth it because the case i want is sold out right now and i should probably just try to save up for a cheap but better pc than what i got for a media pc. unless i wanna just do a steam machine lol

barren basin Jan 7, 2020, 3:58 AM

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ebay and aliexpress

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could look on facebook if you wanted to as well

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just in the market place put FM2+

abstract rover Jan 7, 2020, 6:12 AM

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if you have a pcgold store where you are at that is a good place to get one they are decently priced

primal remnant Jan 7, 2020, 8:06 AM

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FM2+

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ah, i jumped in that pool

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regretted it very shortly

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1050Ti can be had as a low profile GPU

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and runs... most games at 1080p

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like esports games and the old standbys on steam, strategy games (not ashes of the singularity - you're not running that)

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Lian Li released the O11D Mini, and now I want a new case. Lol

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:05 PM

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that looks like a very good dust magnet

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Why's that? The regular O11 has excellent airflow and Lian Li usually has great designs

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Lian Li used to have great designs, not a fan of their designs over the last .. 6-7 years

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mind, my personal preference is just that, my preference :)

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:16 PM

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My O11 Dynamic collects essentially no dust. Though 9 fans might have something to do with that. Lol

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:17 PM

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i prefer cases that are only seen when you look for them

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:17 PM

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I get personal preference, was just curious why you thought it'd be a dust magnet. Because that's a matter of design/engineering, not really opinion

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📎 20200106_194703.jpg

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Well that's certainly not my case lol

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:18 PM

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IF a case needs (for the sake of debate) 7 fans to not be a dust magnet, then imo that is bad design

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:19 PM

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It doesn't really need that many fans. You could easily run 5 (3 side intakes and 2 top exhaust) and have good thermals/airflow. I'm sure on the Mini 2 side intakes and 2 top exhaust and get optimal airflow. 4-5 fans is pretty standard in most cases

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:20 PM

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i think we will have to agree to disagree about that one :)

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Lol fair

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:21 PM

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as an example, machine i am on now is in a Node 304, black

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with the power led disabled.

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a black box that does its job

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I will say, my next build will be a much more stealth SFF. For now I'm having fun with the obnoxious big light show lol

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 2:23 PM

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with dust filters that i can access without opening the case

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as long as you are enjoying the experience :)

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i got my fill of rainbows in the late 90's

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wait, that is wrong. early 00's.

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Hello, I currently have a mini-itx setup with a full size 1080ti in a Thermaltake mini-itx case.
I'm thinking about condensing all my network hardware, QNAP, UPS and that box in a 24U server rack and wanted to transfer the mini-itx setup in some sort of 3U or 4U chassis. I don't mind installing a riser for my GPU but my main height restriction is my Noctua NH-U9S CPU Cooler which is 12.5cm high.
Eye-balling with a tape measure looks like I need just below 6in of clearance.

Do you have any recommendation as far as chassis goes?

Or maybe you're not recommending that I transfer the content of the PC at all?

stone karma Jan 7, 2020, 4:14 PM

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@tender root man, I just looked up your case. That thing is small.

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:14 PM

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it is not that small. and it is very sturdy

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:)

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@arctic sundial for the cooler, just get one of their low profile units

stone karma Jan 7, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Do you game with it, it is it just work?

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Primarily gaming

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:15 PM

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this machine is used for both @stone karma

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I really want to keep that cooler since I overclocked my 8700k..

stone karma Jan 7, 2020, 4:16 PM

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@arctic sundial lol, sorry. I was asking @tender root, who answered already.

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:18 PM

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i have built a number of them over the years (for customers) with some beefy hardware in them. And it is still a lovely case for it, main challenge is card thickness

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i am seriously pondering the x570 dtx mobo for it

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because that fits just fine

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@arctic sundial a 3U chassis is plenty for regular atx components

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if you go 4u, you have close to 1U of "vertical space" above the expansion slots (edit: missing " )

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@tender root Any recommendation, chassis wise ?

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:27 PM

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whatever you want really

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it all comes down to what features you want/need

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:29 PM

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I want to keep the system as-is without any modification to the hardware, that's the first thing
and I need a shitton of USB connection, but I guess I could install a rackmounted USB hub for that

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:30 PM

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it sounds like we are talking about two different things

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you got the time to jump in voice chat @arctic sundial ?

arctic sundial Jan 7, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Thanks for the time but unfortunately I can't speak rn.
I understand your question but I'm not looking for any kind of "feature" other than keeping the same setup in a different "form factor" so to speak.

tender root Jan 7, 2020, 4:35 PM

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the usb connections you mention. Dont you have those in your current setup?

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because if you are worried about the ones that are "in" your current case (coming from mainboard headers), you can just route those to a 5.25 panel at the front of the chassis.

old stone Jan 7, 2020, 7:02 PM

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So guys I found this PC-A11 case by a seller on trade me, and was wondering what y'all thought about it. I can't find anything on it, but maybe you guys can dig up wether its real or not, as I'm not sure how lian li boxes products but this doesnt look legit.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/components/cases-power-supplies/cases/listing-2472073436.htm?rsqid=acf8b3a87ac94d4f902a7bf3449f4d11-001

Trade Me

Lian-Li PC-A11 case (rare case - possibly unreleased)

Lian-Li PC-A11 case New in box.

elfin trout Jan 7, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Looks like it might be fake, as you said the stuff on the box doesn't look legit

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Also cases usually have their model listed ON their case

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like :

📎 unknown.png

hallow meteor Jan 7, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I was able to find one forum post from 2006 that had an expired link to what seemed to be a product page for a PC-A11 case on Lian Li's site, but nothing beyond that.

scenic lance Jan 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069 should i have the fan facing down

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on the psu

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and its fully modular should i run the cables through first before mounting the psu

scenic lance Jan 7, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Help I changed my psu to a cx 550 and now my pc wont turn on

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It was running for about 10 minutes when it turned off and now it wont turn back on

opal night Jan 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

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unplug it from the wall, wait a minute, plug it back in and try again

scenic lance Jan 7, 2020, 11:56 PM

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alright

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here is the parts list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH8fp8

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it worked

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thank you so much @opal night

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literal life saver

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 12:00 AM

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550W is below the recommended for the 5700

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If it does it again, it may have thermal or overload protected and should be upgraded

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But awesome it worked!

old stone Jan 8, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Bruh i was like "oh no" for a second there

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i have just recently upgraded to a cx 550 myself so

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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@opal night Why go by recommended when AMD knowns nothing but the GPU? recommended wattage is bad and shouldnt be used. 5700 consumes like 200w and would be most likely paired with a 90w CPU (3600 or lower).

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with a 70w system then that is 360w total or so

tacit wren Jan 8, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I really like using tomshardware gpu reviews to get a quick check on gpu power draw for both gaming and powervirus loads.

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 12:55 AM

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^^^^

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YES

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can rarely use others cuz it's system power

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sadly 😦

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sometimes tomshardware doesnt have what im looking for

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So it is a bit annoying to see no one else much of at all use actual part power consumption

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@scenic lance better change that PSU as it sucks. TT Smart is real bad

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oh wait nvm you did

tacit wren Jan 8, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Yesterday I realized that hwinfo is pretty unreliable for cpu power draw - some users have settings that display package, ia cores, soc etc correctly, many others simply do not.
I put a curent probe on the +12v 8 pin , measured to 20 KHz bandwidth, repeated for +12v input on the 24 pin just to see if the totals added up.

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 12:58 AM

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So you're just gonna ignore the fact that this PSU shut down for either thermal or overload protection reasons and had to be electrically reset?

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 12:58 AM

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im not too informed on this, does the 24 pin also supply power to the CPU?

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

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And do not assume, ever, that I don't know what components draw what and have checked TomsHardware

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I look at evidence at hand, not what numbers are supposed to be. 😉

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

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well it was 200w peak, which is usually 50ms iirc

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So I wouldnt point to wattage

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But I'd still point to PSU

tacit wren Jan 8, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Most/all of the vrm +12v VCC should come from the cpu power plugs, but it wouldn't surprise me if some oddball platforms used both for w/e reason.

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 1:02 AM

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So what did you add up from the 24 pin then?

tacit wren Jan 8, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I just checked it for a "sanity check" - most of its current goes to the GPU pcie slot or chipset.

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Ah. okay

static sigil Jan 8, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Suggestions for an case? Looking in the range of 150 to a possible upwards of 240 or so.

Preferably black, and either tempered glass is a given

rigid hare Jan 8, 2020, 1:05 PM

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P400a

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But case is really personal preference apart from budget and cooling so I'd look around before asking others

indigo relic Jan 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I love the meshify c

hallow meteor Jan 8, 2020, 3:13 PM

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That's a big budget for a case. I love my PC-O11

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Is EVGA w2 terrible compared to Corsair CX ?

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And is EVGA SUPERNOVA 650GA gold good ?

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@plucky bough try and ask Hei

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Oh alright

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@lofty pewter , i don’t want to disturb u or whatsoever just I would appreciate if you could answer when u read 🙂 (please @ me)

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That 10 year warranty on Supernova makes me want to cop, but gotta make sure if it’s good before

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Hope u don’t mind me pinging

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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W2 certainly isn't a good idea. GA I still need took into

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@plucky bough so right now it's either GA or CX. Never actually heard of GA so yeah as I said just now I need to look into that. Tho feel like GA will be more expensive for the same as the Supernova lineup hasn't been all too great for EVGA apart from G2. But could be wrong

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Actually I just need to choose between CX and GA since they are the only available locally and not overpriced

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So no need to check prices or give alternatives, really just need to choose between these 2 options

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GA is full modular and has 10 year warranty which is nice too

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But like $30 more expensive in my country (than the CX)

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4.6/5 on Amazon out of ≈6k reviews. But that may not mean nothing

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https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-GA-0650-X1 link if you need it @lofty pewter

EVGA

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode,...

Introducing the EVGA SuperNOVA GA Series of power supplies - the newest addition to the outstanding line of EVGA Power Supplies. Featuring 80 Plus Gold certification, 100% Japanese capacitors, a durable double-ball bearing fan, and a fully modular design, this power supply is...

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Yeah. Unfortunately I can't find any real info about the quality of it. Sure I found the on paper specs however that is still very little info with real quality. So even if it may be a great PSU I can't recommend it

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As it is unknown

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Hmmm

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Maybe some Reviews on the internet ? But idk

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Or I could ask in other tech servers ?

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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he would have found it, if it was there

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which is why i asked you to talk with him :)

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Yep of cours

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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there is plenty of info, just not reliable info

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Alright I get it

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I’ll still try to ask in another server to see what they say

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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sorry if it comes across as "strongly worded". It is not intended to be. But it is important to understand that neither Hei or myself recommend stuff that we are not certain about

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yep for sure. I understand

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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sorry for taking the liberty with your intention there Hei, but based on our interactions, i firmly believe the above to be true.

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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See there is reviews done by people who do real testing on PSUs. Checking everything that one would need to know about the actual quality of it. However there isn't any real reviews on it. Just the standard customer reviews on Amazon/Newegg

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Which aren’t the most reliable I would guess

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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"wooo! it powered on! 10 stars!" (edit: spelling)

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Haha yeah

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:08 PM

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i wish i was joking about that

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Things about PSUs
-protections: stop your PSU from killing itself, stop the PC from dying if the PSU dies, stops the PC from dying if some random component shorts instead of malfunctioning and killing the PC, stop your PSU from exploding, etc
-voltage ripple: PSUs have some voltage rails, 3.3v, 5v, and 12v. They all will fluctuate a little bit like every millisecond, usually by 40mv or less.
-voltage regulation: Voltage changes on load. So 20% load the 12v rail would be at 12.1v and at 50% load it'd be at 12.05v and at 90% load it'd be at 12.07v. That is just an example
-capacitors: These will determine the lifespan and temperature tolerance of the PSU, usually. Bad caps means that low temps will easily overheat the PSU and that the PSU will fail much sooner
-tensient response: How well the PSU works with the load changing really fast. So like going from 20% load to 50% to 80% and back to 20% all within say 20ms

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None of this will be tested by standard reviews. Also, there is more, but I'm phone and just copied/pasted from other convo

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Lots of things to bear in mind

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Alright then, gotta get some sleep, appreciate the help both of you 😀

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I’ll do some more research when I have time

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Someone who may be able to get info is one of the Lukes on the LTT server

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Ask LukeSavenije on the LTT server, he is the only one I know who could maybe help

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:12 PM

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aye

plucky bough Jan 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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That’s great news thanks for the advice

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Catch u guys next time 👋🏼

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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best of luck :)

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@lofty pewter i have a question what’s a good PSU? I’m new to pc gaming and i’m about to build a gaming pc i just need a PSU and then i can finally build the PC!

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my budget is $300

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 8:52 PM

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on the whole PC or PSU? Lol

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 8:53 PM

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PSU

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lol

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 8:53 PM

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A good one will set you back 80-140 depending on what you need

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Have you put your existing parts into PCPartPicker to get an estimated wattage?

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What I usually do is to get that estimate, round up to the nearest 50, and add 100 as a factor of safety/some upgradability.

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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is this a good one?

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Corsair CX Series 550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply (CP-9020102-NA)

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Well it depends, do you need 550w? Do you need 750w? Do you need 450w?

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Corsair CX 2017 is listed as Tier B+.

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Also, its bronze certified, so not really. You're looking for gold plus if you have that kind of budget

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Tier A would be like Corsair RMX, something, around 90-120$ depending on wattage

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ok

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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But you need to work out how much wattage your system will require so you can ensure you're getting a PSU that can both handle that, and a bit more incase you get a new GPU or something in the future that takes more.

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Give us an example, what CPU do you have, what graphics card do you have?

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:04 PM

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ok

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i have

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my CPU is

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AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX

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my GPU

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is

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ZOTAC Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GDDR5 192-bit Gaming Graphics Card, Super Compact, ZT-T16600F-10L

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 9:06 PM

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In theory, a 450W would be enough, Id get a 550W to be secure and a decent bit of headroom and some upgradability

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HGL413?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/corsair-rmx-series-rm550x-cp-9020177-na-550w/p/N82E16817139231?Item=N82E16817139231&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FbqVD4D%2Fcorsair-rmx-2018-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020177-na&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Jx2XTW9g8zy0dVHlzsjT3Q

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Same product just two places you can buy it.

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Hei is the guy to ask if you want to know why its good, I just looked at the tier list

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:08 PM

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what mainboard do you have @dry prairie ? (just so we know for certain that there isnt a quirky cable requirement)

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:08 PM

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motherboard?

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:08 PM

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yes

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ASRock B450M PRO4-F Socket AM4/ AMD Promontory B450/ DDR4/ Quad CrossFireX/ SATA3&USB3.1/ M.2/ A&GbE/MicroATX Motherboard

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:09 PM

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standard board.

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yea

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:09 PM

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then as he said above, Have a chat with Hei

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

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ok

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is he the expert

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

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a good 550watt will be plenty for now

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yea

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

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and the next upgrade too

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and yes, Hei is the person that knows a fair deal about psu's in general

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:11 PM

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ok

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:11 PM

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i only know about a specific brand. And i think you would be better served having options

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:11 PM

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what’s a good motherboard

tender root Jan 8, 2020, 9:12 PM

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depends on the usecase

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@dry prairie Are you still designing your build or do you have parts already bought? If you haven't bought most things or anything yet, you might want to go to #building-and-recc-chat to make sure you're making a solid build for your budget.

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The 1660 (non super non TI) seems a bit dubious but the 2600 is a great buy for CPU.

dry prairie Jan 8, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid-Tower w/ 4x Side Tempered Glass Panels, Type-C I/O Panel, 2x Vertical GPU Card PCI Slots & 2x 200mm ARGB Fans w/ARGB Controller

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that’s my case

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ok

lofty pewter Jan 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@dry prairie My only issue I see is that you have such a large budget for the PSU but yet have just "okay" components

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1660 is also generally not a good deal as it's so close to 1660S in price but the 1660S is better. It's also much more expensive then the 1650S for 2 FPS more

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So I except some component shifting to go on with and budget reallocation, but with an estimated guess of what your budget is I dont expect a PC high end enough to really go past a CX550

rigid hare Jan 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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if he has 300 for psu get a 150 or below one and drop the rest into gpu for something like 2060/5700(xt)

stone karma Jan 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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What is the best 550w PSU for less than $110?

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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whats a good case to mount my liquid cooler at the top

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@inland kite

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Not a clue, I don't know much about cases. Ive had multiple of the same small amount of cases.

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Description=phanteks enthoo&cm_re=phanteks_enthoo-_-11-854-069-_-Product

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but i dont want to deal with the fan controller

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but can you help me out

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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If it's a 240mm cooler you can top mount it there

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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What do you mean you don't want to deal with it?

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If the case has one, you don't have to use it

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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but i want a different case

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i need suggestions

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Fractal Design Mshify C

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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is it full tower

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and why is the disc tray covered

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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You need one with a drive bay?

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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it doesnt have 2.5 tray

stone karma Jan 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/e712cdd4ffe48062d21d87c34f5e3567/tenor.gif

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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What?

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yes it does

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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The meshify C has 3 mounts for 2.5" drives.

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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has 2 internal 3.5" bays also

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But you have to remove the cover for the optical drive to come out so

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If you need an optical drive, your options are very limited

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I thought Id need an optical drive "for the one off" 5 years ago. Not used it a single time since.

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Like not one single use for this optical drive, at all

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I haven't had one for about 8 years now

stone karma Jan 8, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Buy a USB drive if you need one.

scenic lance Jan 8, 2020, 10:51 PM

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i dont like dealing with usb's

stone karma Jan 8, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Only optical drive I use is the one on my Xbox One X, and that's to watch movies.

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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@mellow thistle What's your problem with your HDD enclosure?

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Im not sure what kind i need to buy

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Your case should come with the required equipment to install your 3.5" drive into one of the bays. Most cases also come with slots to put in 2.5" drives. What's your case and what size of drive are you trying to install?

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Im not sure what size it came out of a old toshiba labtop

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

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It's probably 2.5" then. Do you know what model your case is?

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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i know its a hitachi 80 gb sata

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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The case.

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The PC tower case.

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i havnt bought a case i came here to see wgat one i need

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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You need an external enclosure that will support a 2.5" drive

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They're interchanging the word case and enclosure Nomad

inland kite Jan 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Oh, you mean to use it as an external HDD?

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My brain forgot those existed.

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Lay-Flat-Docking-EC-DFLT/dp/B00LS5NFQ2

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$22

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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5he main thing im trying to do is recover 5he photos of it since the labtop is toast

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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The enclosure i posted supports both 3.5 and 2.5" drives. It'll be what you need for $20

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oh wait

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maybe not

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hang on

mellow thistle Jan 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Sweet thank you

opal night Jan 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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WAIT lol

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Can you tell if it's IDE or SATA?

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Being that small, I suspect it's IDE

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A picture if you can of the connector will help. If not, we can work around it @mellow thistle

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Geez

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you already said SATA

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My apologies, carry one

dry prairie Jan 9, 2020, 3:54 AM

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@lofty pewter can u link me to the CX550 so i can buy it

lofty pewter Jan 9, 2020, 4:22 AM

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@dry prairie https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx550-550w/p/N82E16817139202?Item=N82E16817139202

latent light Jan 9, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Whats a good budget case around 60$-80$

stone karma Jan 9, 2020, 3:40 PM

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What is a good fully modular 550w PSU for $110 or less?

lofty pewter Jan 9, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Phanteks AMP for $90

stone karma Jan 9, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Thank you.

dry prairie Jan 10, 2020, 7:02 AM

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is this a good case?

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Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid-Tower w/ 4x Side Tempered Glass Panels, Type-C I/O Panel, 2x Vertical GPU Card PCI Slots & 2x 200mm ARGB Fans w/ARGB Controller

inland kite Jan 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

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From what Ive heard, as long as you have the one with the mesh front @dry prairie

dry prairie Jan 10, 2020, 9:36 AM

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ok

crude mason Jan 10, 2020, 5:34 PM

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anyone got any decent budget cases thing i am struggling most. finding one that i like

opal night Jan 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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What's the budget? I recommend the Meshify C or Icue 220 for RGB

crude mason Jan 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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really like the meshify C but is like £120 for me to get

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thinking more of the £70 to £90

opal night Jan 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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MATX?

inland kite Jan 10, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Whats that decent CM one

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CM own a large portion of the UK case market

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Ive forgotten basic numbers that I used as recently as this morning

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I think this is old age settling in.

crude mason Jan 10, 2020, 5:41 PM

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ATX and wish in the usa to build my pc much cheaper

fringe granite Jan 11, 2020, 12:40 AM

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anyone know the specific model of case fan that comes included in the corsair carbide 275R?

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black version with acrylic side window

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i can't seem to find it

hardy ridge Jan 11, 2020, 5:16 AM

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@inland kite the nr600? That's the full front mesh one

hasty delta Jan 11, 2020, 6:29 AM

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hopefully I can finish my wifes desk tomorrow and get a pc setup in there for her

proper pecan Jan 12, 2020, 4:09 AM

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is the 600w evga br a good quality psu

scenic lance Jan 12, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Sounds like a good choice to me

inland kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:07 AM

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AFAIK no.

lofty pewter Jan 12, 2020, 9:18 AM

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@proper pecan nope. Bad quality for a bad price. Cheapest PSU that is decent is Corsair CX

cobalt parrot Jan 12, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Any recommendation for a mini ITX case that is similar in size to the Air240 ?

plucky bough Jan 12, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Any SeaSonic PSUs that are as good (or better) as Corsair CX series ? (For example, 550W S12III)

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In the same price range

wanton gull Jan 12, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Hey, i am trying to buy a new PC Case, what is the difference between the coolermaster mc500m and the coolermaster mc600p? There are not many documents or comparison reviews online.

proper pecan Jan 12, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@lofty pewter what about the thermaltake smart power 600w. ive heard those are good

proper pecan Jan 12, 2020, 3:55 PM

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then what is a good 600w or 550w (if they exist) that u can recommend. its for my friends budget pc but i want room for him to upgrade as well

opal night Jan 12, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Anything from here, B+ and up

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 6.9 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @PSUGuru, @Ave with a model o and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 07-01-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off r...

proper pecan Jan 12, 2020, 4:33 PM

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lol i was just about to say nvm i found a tier list😂 and that's the list i was looking at

dim trellis Jan 12, 2020, 7:11 PM

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220 icue is on sale at bestbuy for 89.99

lofty pewter Jan 12, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@proper pecan well tier list is usually right. But not always. So you'll most likely be fine

proper pecan Jan 12, 2020, 8:29 PM

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thanks hei

west dove Jan 13, 2020, 12:34 AM

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whats the best psu for a 2080 super like 80+ gold and a quiet psu under 100$

lofty pewter Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

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@west dove https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na

west dove Jan 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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thanks def look into it

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is GAMDIAS a good psu company

lofty pewter Jan 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Not really

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Couple are meh, couple are bad

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never seen one for a price worth it

west dove Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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so what would be better than my cx750m kinda loud and wanted a better rating of a psu

lofty pewter Jan 13, 2020, 1:07 AM

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RM is the best PSU for $100. Lots of things like voltage regulation/ripple, tensient response, protections, noise, cap quality, etc are considered for that

old stone Jan 13, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Thoughts on the Zalmon ZM500-GV

opal night Jan 13, 2020, 4:12 AM

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LTT has those at a D rating.......not good

old stone Jan 13, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Fair point then

west dove Jan 13, 2020, 11:13 PM

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So is this psu any good newegg.com/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-series-hcg650-gold-650w/p/N82E16817371108

elfin trout Jan 13, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@west dove I wouldn't get that, LTT lists those as Tier D+, potentially dangerous

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primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 AM

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this means 'may possibly blow up'

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i love their wording

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:24 AM

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dont get cheapo PSU

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:25 AM

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it's not price that determines it

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it's other factors

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:25 AM

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eh you're probably right

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I don't know too much about PSUs

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:25 AM

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if you look at the tier list there are some B+ tier power supplies that are really cheap

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they haven't put my RM 2019 on that list yet

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but it's a corsair RM series so i trust that

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if i was less silly about it though i'd get the RMx or RMi or AXi or HXi

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:26 AM

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dear god

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that's a lot of terms

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:27 AM

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AXi/HXi are the ones that have the neat communication cable

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so you get to communicate with them over a USB 2 header

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 AM

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wait so

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What other PSU ports are there?

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 AM

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ports?

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i'm just saying there's a way with some newer power supplies from thermaltake and corsair that lets you communicate via USB

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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oh lol

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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you can see the PSU's health

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so over the years it can be monitored

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and you can see when it's about to go

visual fjord Jan 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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ah understood

primal remnant Jan 14, 2020, 3:30 AM

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can also adjust the fan curve

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let it get a bit warmer before the fan kicks in

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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oof my psu is tier d

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Antec ATX HCG-850M lol but its served me well so far

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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lttstore.com

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I mean I have a EVGA g3

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But I now understand the issue and I shouldn't encounter the issue

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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whats the issue

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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bad OCP protection

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it doesn't kick in until way to high

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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what is ocp

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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over current protection

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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ohhh

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 3:56 AM

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like if you were pulling too much power

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it should just shut itself off to not break

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:56 AM

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iunno what the issue is on mine but i dont go anywhere near the high

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 3:56 AM

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but this OCP is set too high

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so it could get damaged when you pull too much power and OCP doesn't kick in

glacial needle Jan 14, 2020, 3:59 AM

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i mean i figured but i accept that as all psus and i never try to max out a psu lol

elder prairie Jan 14, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Does anyone have experience with the PSU included with the Inwin A1 Plus? I heard they aren’t that great

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If that’s the case, then I am better off to just get a different case and buy PSU separately

soft shoal Jan 14, 2020, 6:19 AM

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what case is better
https://www.amazon.com.au/Cooler-Master-MCW-L5S3-KGNN-02-MasterBox-Version/dp/B075MYYFC8/ref=pd_ybh_a_14?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=H5FGAS3094847QCAPWA8&th=1
or
https://www.amazon.com.au/Corsair-CC-9011101-WW-Windowed-Mid-Tower-Tempered/dp/B01LA2LB7W/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Cooler Master MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00 MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG: Amazon.com.a...

Cooler Master MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00 MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories

Corsair CC-9011101-WW Crystal Series 460X RGB Windowed Compact Mid...

Corsair CC-9011101-WW Crystal Series 460X RGB Windowed Compact Mid-Tower ATX Tempered Glass Case with RGB Case Fans, Black: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories

plucky bough Jan 14, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Is the corsair CXM = to CX non-modular in terms of "safety" ?

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Are they equivalent but just one is semi-modular and the other isn’t ?

open gate Jan 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt

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How's this case?

elfin trout Jan 14, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Good

rigid hare Jan 14, 2020, 10:20 PM

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GN gave is case of the year if I remember correctly

neon otter Jan 15, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Any opinions on the Inwin A1 Plus?

primal remnant Jan 15, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Ziky sorry for such a late reply but CX does a lot better with coil whine than CXM, you could be hearing an annoying high pitched noise with the CXM if things don't work out for you

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CX is also more inconvenient, because no modular cables

lofty pewter Jan 15, 2020, 11:39 AM

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CX and CXM are pretty different as CX was released 2 years later. Tho in terms of safety, should be about the same more or less. However as stated above CXM does have coil whine issues

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just checked. CX does provide cleaner power to the PC than CXM, so technically CX is safer, but realistically not really. Only thing I'd actually worry about is the noise

plucky bough Jan 15, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Alright, thank you very much for your answers !

plucky bough Jan 15, 2020, 2:21 PM

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When I use my computer I usually use a headset, I wonder if the coil whine would actually be so high that it would be noticeable and even annoy me

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On the CXM

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If the "safety" is almost equivalent, I wonder if going for a CX instead of a CXM would actually be the good move to make, plus it’s a brand new build I’m doing and those modular cables could be very nice

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Any ideas on if the noise is really terrible ? (As said I really don’t care a lot about noise)

tender root Jan 15, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@plucky bough can you guarantee that you will ALWAYS use a headset?

mighty vine Jan 15, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Is there a way to fix the airflow and temps.issue of the thermaltake v200 tg without returning it

plucky bough Jan 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@tender root No, not always but around 90% of the time I’ll use one.

worldly dust Jan 15, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@mighty vine a drill

scenic lance Jan 16, 2020, 4:33 AM

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is there some one i can talk to about my fan rgb acting up

worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 4:43 AM

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sure

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what do you mean acting up

worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 5:04 AM

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@scenic lance whats up

scenic lance Jan 16, 2020, 5:07 AM

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@worldly dust can we go into a call lol, itd b easier

worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 5:08 AM

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sure general chat

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voice

scenic lance Jan 16, 2020, 5:19 AM

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hushed yoke Jan 16, 2020, 5:21 AM

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id turn of the pc when working on it

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monkaS

glacial needle Jan 16, 2020, 5:22 AM

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worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 5:22 AM

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orcus rbw

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240-120

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dark flash dr12 pro fans

scenic lance Jan 16, 2020, 5:27 AM

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worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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"TIP: If your motherboard only has a 12v RGB header like mine (ASUS Prime X470-Pro), you will need to buy a 5v to 12v converter which I found one on here for $10 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QPYSC82/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1."

scenic lance Jan 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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worldly dust Jan 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Addressable-Controller-Compatible-CL-O015-PL00BL/dp/B079FYL6LM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=5V+ADD-RGB+to+12V+RGB+Transfer+Hub&qid=1579154924&s=electronics&sr=1-1

hasty delta Jan 16, 2020, 6:22 PM

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that is only for TT fans

molten haven Jan 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Do i need active pfc psu for gaming pc

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Does it have any pros

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Or cons

olive swift Jan 17, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Passive PFC is most common

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and would be completely fine

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but Active PFC is more prefered

lofty pewter Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Active vs Passive PFC is a small factor when buying a PSU, unless it is a extremely high end one

idle seal Jan 17, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Anyone have a decent knowledge of PSU's?

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I just recently upgraded my gpu and it brought my power consumption up to 501watts. Currently running a 500watt and am getting some screen flickering/blackouts. Pretty sure it's because I'm not getting enough power to the gpu.

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Can anyone recommend how much overhead I should have on a system running approximately 500watts? Does anyone know how high of wattage spikes could be possible?

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@scenic heron @devout monolith

rigid hare Jan 17, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I'd say 750w range but I'd ask someone who knows more

idle seal Jan 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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well thats about what I was thinking so that's reassuring at least

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I was going to shoot for 800-1000watts but I also don't want to spend a ton of money if it's gonna be overkill

rigid hare Jan 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Hei seems the be the resident psu boi

idle seal Jan 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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To you, what I described, does that sound like an under powered gpu?

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Computer itself isn't shutting down I just get a black screen flash or sometimes the screen goes out until I force restart

rigid hare Jan 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I dont know exactly

devout monolith Jan 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/notifications-gif-9344396

Tenor

lofty pewter Jan 17, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@chaos#9854 please give CPU, GPU, and exact PSU model

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Or not, cuz I guess he left

flat eagle Jan 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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lol.

scenic lance Jan 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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where do i plug my pci cards at

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i never had to deal with plugging a cable into a card so im new to this

tender root Jan 17, 2020, 8:41 PM

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read the manual that came with the psu

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and /or read the labels on the psu and the cables

scenic lance Jan 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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its the plug to the right of the top left cable

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i found where it says pcie

primal remnant Jan 17, 2020, 10:08 PM

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any of those 8pin connectors on the (bottom, but facing up) top

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that's a corsair RM series

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i recognize it instantly

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if you need two PCIe power cords you should find one that branches out into two

frosty zodiac Jan 17, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I need a EATX clear case

opal night Jan 18, 2020, 4:21 AM

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We determined it's an ATX motherboard. Why are you going EATX?

surreal magnet Jan 18, 2020, 6:37 AM

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cuz a full size EATX motherboard, and a massive EATX case

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looks impressive

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big pc = big pp

scenic lance Jan 18, 2020, 6:39 AM

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LOL

plucky bough Jan 18, 2020, 3:39 PM

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MWE GOLD is a reliable PSU since it’s ont LTT Tier List right ?

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They’re accurate ?

elfin trout Jan 18, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Yes

primal remnant Jan 18, 2020, 5:21 PM

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they've actually had the opportunity to perform tests on all of them

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not just like, turn a PC on with a lot of stuff and stress test it

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like pro level electrical tests to see how clean the power is and things like that

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and to determine if the amps/watts are being delivered properly

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look at the board in the power supply

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see how the capacitors and such are

lofty pewter Jan 18, 2020, 7:23 PM

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MWE gold is good, but I rarely see it at a price that is worth while due to compitition

rugged sedge Jan 18, 2020, 10:30 PM

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hey guys i'm still looking for a case anyone help me

opal night Jan 18, 2020, 10:34 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/white-lian-li-alpha-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811112580?Item=9SIAFST6UE4128

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@rugged sedge

rugged sedge Jan 18, 2020, 10:39 PM

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yeah seen it

chilly holly Jan 18, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Is 750W good?

abstract rover Jan 18, 2020, 11:56 PM

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i have a 750W and that is decent for what i am getting

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Make sure PSU quality is good. Dont go by brand, btw

plucky bough Jan 19, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I was asking because the MWE GOLD isn’t too expensive locally. Plus, it’s full modular so I might get it instead of a CX 650

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Just $10 extra

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Well, I tend to notice the MWE Gold is close in price to the Phanteks AMP or Corsair RM/RMx

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Which all listed are better then MWE Gold

plucky bough Jan 19, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Phanteks AMP is unfortunately not sold in my country

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And the MWE GOLD is like 35 - 50 USD cheaper than Corsair RM / RMx series PSUs

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I need to build a system ASAP, but don’t want to cheap out too much on the PSU (don’t want it to die / explode with my PC)

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That’s why I was looking a tier B+ on LTT tier list, since I thought some of the PSUs could match my budget and other requirements

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I was going to opt for a CX 650 but MWE Gold tempted me a lot so I decided I’ll stretch my budget slightly

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But don’t think I can go further than that

chilly holly Jan 19, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Is Titanium better than Platinum?

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or the other way around?

plucky bough Jan 19, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Titanium is "better"

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 2:28 AM

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That is correct. However, there is a lot more to a PSU then wattage and ratings. Voltage regulation/ripple, included protections and if they work properly, transient response, noise, cap quality, etc

chilly holly Jan 19, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Is there any temperature difference with tempered glass case vs a non tempered glass?

glacial needle Jan 19, 2020, 3:57 AM

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no it depends more on the airflow of the case

plucky bough Jan 19, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Airflow and aesthetics I would say

elfin trout Jan 19, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Theres difference between mesh front panel and glass front panel

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Side panels dont matter for temperature

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I mean, not usually. But you do still have them side panel fans every now and then

civic anvil Jan 19, 2020, 12:14 PM

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What's a good bang for the buck case around

plucky bough Jan 19, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Around ?

elfin trout Jan 19, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Focus g

barren basin Jan 19, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Focus G Mini

olive swift Jan 19, 2020, 3:35 PM

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what makes it better than like the Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-05, because thats the one i was going to buy 🤔

primal remnant Jan 19, 2020, 3:48 PM

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it might be an availability issue

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oh i was scrolled up lol

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again

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i wish there had been an ITX focus-G

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might have bought one

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someone actually told me to pull the entire front panel off my define series case, i was appalled

bitter flare Jan 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Someone suggest me a nice pair of white or white+black cables or cable extensions for a fully MoDuLaR psu that came with ugly black cables. Props of price is less than $70

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@olive swift airflow is terrible on the spec 5 and isn't terrible on the focus g

chilly holly Jan 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Are be quite straight power 750W and corsair rm750x any good?

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Straight power is a lineup from BeQiuet, where they have SP 10 and 11, maybe 9 too but cant remember. Too vague to say unless you actually say whether it is from the 10 or 11 series. Tho RMx is a good PSU model

chilly holly Jan 19, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@lofty pewter The 11 one. straight power 11

lofty pewter Jan 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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SP 11 is better, but dont get it if it's a lot more expensive. Not really worth it most of the time I find

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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What do you guys think about the Corsair Icue 465x rgb

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It’s around $150 USD

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I originally had the Corsair Icue 220t rgb Airflow

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For $90 USD

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The 465X comes with 3 ll120 Corsair fans

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The 220t comes with 3 Corsair sp140 fans

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So I don’t really know

surreal magnet Jan 20, 2020, 2:06 AM

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idk, which one looks cooler

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its just a case

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and at that price range your paying for looks

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I think the 465x looks better

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The 220t will be a tight fit for the aio I’m getting

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I want the aio on the top

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scenic lance Jan 20, 2020, 2:11 AM

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does my case have led

glacial needle Jan 20, 2020, 2:20 AM

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what case do you have

scenic lance Jan 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I don’t think so

scenic lance Jan 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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i read on the manual that it already has the stand off screws already installed for my motherboard

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but i saw it has a reset switch

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but the only connectors to the board is hd audio usb 3.0 hd led and power switch thats all no connectors for reset

lofty pewter Jan 20, 2020, 3:25 AM

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What do I think about Corsair cases? tbh they are rather overpriced and "meh"

tender root Jan 20, 2020, 3:49 AM

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@scenic lance 100% certain that there is a reset connector on your mainboard. You just have to look in the manual for the info on it.

scenic lance Jan 20, 2020, 3:50 AM

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But I look through the manual on the case but it doesn’t show there is one

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I haven’t even opened the box yet

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I’m waiting until Wednesday

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That’s when I get my motherboard

tender root Jan 20, 2020, 3:52 AM

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A piece of advice for you: Try to stop worrying about things before you have all your parts.

scenic lance Jan 20, 2020, 3:58 AM

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mine is right below the power switch connector

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@tender root

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I have never built this expensive type of pc before

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can you help me on the front connectors when after i install the motherboard

tender root Jan 20, 2020, 4:04 AM

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look in the mainboard manual, it has a schematic that tells you everything anyone here will be able to tell you

proper pecan Jan 20, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Apevia ATX-PR600W Prestige 600W 80+ Gold Certified, RoHS Compliance, Active PFC ATX Gaming Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NWZQX1J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_PptjEb0FV0ZYY

is this a good quality psu im looking for a good quality psu for my friends build and i tried looking at the tier list but its not on there

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Any 600W PSU for $50 is probably not the best buy

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PSU is not one area you want to cheap out on

lofty pewter Jan 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Pretty rare to find a decent 600w for $50 new. Been many months now since I checked but there was some TT PSU that wasnt horrible for $45 with a rebate.

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Lol @ Apevia advertising. This is the worst you can do while staying in the ATX spec

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If they are advertising that, voltage regulation doesnt seem good

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Apevia is a bottom of the barrel brand

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Think 250 watt Dell prebuilt PSU's

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Some good tempered glass cases then?

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Black

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I don’t think that they are overpriced

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The Corsair 465x comes with 3 ll120 fans

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Something like this?

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https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Tempered-Panoramic-Certified-CA-1H9-00T1WN-00/dp/B06XFW9W43/

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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One fan is around $40 USD

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Or fully enclosed?

ebon vault Jan 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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40x3 is $120

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The case costs $150

lofty pewter Jan 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Still on the Apevia PSU cuz idk. This seems to be their OVP spec sheet they are saying... Really hope that the PSU doesnt actually go by this sheet

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In the user manual for the Apevia PSU btw

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But, as per usual with super low end PSUs there isnt any reviews on it. Either way, dont buy the Apevia

fast mist Jan 20, 2020, 8:26 AM

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anyone got a nzxt phantom 530 by any chance? please send me a message or drop a link to see where i can buy one

proper pecan Jan 20, 2020, 3:01 PM

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ok thanks

plucky bough Jan 20, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@fast mist you could search the used market, pcpartpicker doesn't show any retail prices

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Ot

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It's been discontinued years ago

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Used is the only option

shadow cosmos Jan 20, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I had this idea

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I really liked how evolve shift looked like

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but I didnt want to go with a liquid cooled gpu

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so I thought

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or asked,

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that if I can place a tempered glass on the cpu side

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and a mesh side to the gpu side

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is that doable?

stone karma Jan 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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If I want to use a Noctua D15 CPU cooler, what would be the best case? Asking cause I know it's a fairly big cooler.

lofty pewter Jan 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Mugen Scythe 5 Rev 2 b is about the same perf for ~$40 cheaper

barren basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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What is up with that second fan hanging?

west dove Jan 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Don’t you love when your waiting on a part so your computer just sits there and makes fun of you

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barren basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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never happens to me cause i got spare GPU's to use

opal night Jan 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Why is your pump upside down?

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Lol, that was a joke. I know because hose routing

west dove Jan 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Speak of the devil and it dosint fit the other way had to improvise before my new one gets here

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barren basin Jan 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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@opal night Why don't you question the fan under the 2080 Ti

west dove Jan 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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And I need a psu not a gpu

tacit wren Jan 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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My case laid on its side in that pic. Was about 6 months ago

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most recent pic

west dove Jan 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Bought these not realizing at its a 3 pin connection so I had to buy an adapter

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livid blade Jan 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@tacit wren what’s that duke card?

tacit wren Jan 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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gtx 1080. reference pcb , needs a change of cooler 🙂

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And probably a vrm zombie mod

livid blade Jan 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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That’s awesome. I have an rx 580 with a broken fan lol

tacit wren Jan 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I had an rx580 armor for a bit- great cards, incredible budget forntite machines lol

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Still played over a 1x riser

livid blade Jan 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I have the xfx black edition

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I’m gonna get a second one even though no games use crossfire anymore I might as well use it for battlefield 4

tacit wren Jan 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Is your card a 4gig

livid blade Jan 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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8

tacit wren Jan 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I'd just sell it for $80-110 and grab a 1660 (something) or equivalent

livid blade Jan 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I’m going to wait to get a 1080 ti or a 5700xt but I need a new power supply for that

lofty pewter Jan 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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As a note, pretty rare to find a 1080Ti actually at a decent price. Pretty close to 5700XT price, or even close-ish to 2070S

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 12:50 AM

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can someone send me a somewhat decent quality power supply at least 500w for my friends 500$ budget build

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 12:51 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMrBTC

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Or can just do that, for the $500 budget

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 12:53 AM

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no i have parts i know im going to use like the r5 1600af and rx 570

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also he asked me to include a monitor in the price

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and other stuff

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im putting 75$ into thr build as a gift

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since hes my friend

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what about the thermaltake smart 600w

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 12:54 AM

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sO iS iT rEaLLy $500?

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Also no, TT Smart is one of the worst PSUs

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 12:54 AM

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dang

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alright

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evga bq?

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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BQ is better, but not advised

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Also, why 500w?

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That PC wont take more then 360w

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With such a budget get a Corsair CX 450w

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ik i want room upgradable for him

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ok

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Cheapest upgrade would be CX550

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450 is $50 and 550 is $65 I think

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 12:57 AM

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ok

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how bout rosewill lepton

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looking at that rn

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might just do the evga gd 500

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ik for a fact thats good

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well i think😂

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 1:01 AM

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No real reviews on the Lepton (testing voltage regulation/voltage, protections, transient response, cap quality, etc)

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 1:01 AM

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alright

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Wel... GD 2017 or 2019?

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2019 is worse

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 1:02 AM

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EVGA 500 GD, 80+ Gold 500W, 5 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-GD-0500-V1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WC79PPN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_d2KjEbBHKCWR4

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whatever that is

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 1:02 AM

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That is 2019

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Corsair CX 550 is better for $5 cheaper. More wattage and better quality

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ok

lofty pewter Jan 21, 2020, 1:03 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRW2K79?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 1:04 AM

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ok thank you

waxen jay Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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anyone know if any decently cheap cases that support a 360mm rad (with the HDD tray still in) and minium 33cm graphics card

proper pecan Jan 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

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rosewill tyrfing thats my case its under 50

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@waxen jay

waxen jay Jan 21, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Cheers

solemn verge Jan 22, 2020, 12:02 AM

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i need help deciding on a psu.

proper pecan Jan 22, 2020, 12:06 AM

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@lofty pewter where you at😂 he need your genius psu brain

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 12:06 AM

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lol

lofty pewter Jan 22, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I mean, guy DMed me as well so yee

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 12:08 AM

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the prophecy is true

hot patrol Jan 22, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Does anyone have any experience with the DIYPC Skyline 6? I'm having some issues with the LEDs.

plucky bough Jan 22, 2020, 9:41 AM

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What’s up with the LEDs ?

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:15 PM

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How to remove the hdd?

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cant figure it out

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:15 PM

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screws

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on either side

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for that case it's the three red circles on the side

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my case has the disk screwed in with the four circled ones on top

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I cant get access to the other side

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I got 2 screws off onky

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only

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other two is impossible to get

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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can you take off the front cover of the computer?

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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im not sure

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i dont want to break it

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:32 PM

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should be a big piece of plastic held on by clips

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in that case, you can press inward on where the clips are to get them to release

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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i dont see the clips

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ive been working for like 3 hours on this pc trying to strip it down omg

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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oof

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some have clips like that

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oof hold up

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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call me stupid but i dont see it

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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https://support.hp.com/doc-images/997/c01039425.gif

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take some pictures of the front panel

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the sides, like ^^ that

grand briar Jan 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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its for a sleeper pc btw

vocal tree Jan 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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hmm

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yeah not sure how the front panel would come off xd

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maybe this help?

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little plastic pegs that plug into the front of the chassis

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old computer drive mounting hardware is weird lol

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at least prebuilt computer

tender root Jan 22, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@grand briar could you take of picture from the "long" side of the hdd?

vapid frost Jan 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Trying to find an ATX case that will work well-enough on its side. Anyone have ideas?

candid moth Jan 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I mean probably any

vocal talon Jan 22, 2020, 7:57 PM

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like the side panel is on the top?

vapid frost Jan 22, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Yes

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Ideally, something that looks decent in that orientation.

tender root Jan 22, 2020, 9:26 PM

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@vapid frost you okay with potentially going for an older case?

vapid frost Jan 22, 2020, 9:27 PM

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@tender root I'm not opposed

young osprey Jan 22, 2020, 9:27 PM

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That drive bracket looks like it has a clip you can move to slide the whole thing ought then get to the screws

tender root Jan 22, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@vapid frost i dont think antec makes it anymore, but they used to make a piano black desktop atx case

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desktop as in, horizontal case

young osprey Jan 22, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Its hard to be 100% sure from that angle though

tender root Jan 22, 2020, 9:29 PM

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at least i am fairly certain it was atx (this was back in ... 2005 or so)

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@young osprey hence why i asked for a picture from the other angle

rigid hare Jan 23, 2020, 4:56 AM

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The cooler master q300l's back left side panel has rubber feet so you can lay it on its side

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But its mATX

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And I've only heard a lot of bad things about the q500l (atx version)

brittle vine Jan 23, 2020, 1:45 PM

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hey everyone, I am looking for a modular 650 Watt PSU that is as QUIET or SILENT as possbile for under $100 including taxes

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looking cool QUIET down my desktop pc and my PSU is the loudest atm

hushed yoke Jan 23, 2020, 5:53 PM

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uh

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it shouldnt be the loudest

ruby prairie Jan 23, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Unless it's a bad bearing or coil whine

elfin trout Jan 23, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I have a EVGA G3, not great PSU, but I dont think I've ever heard the noise of just the PSU

pliant bridge Jan 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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yeah its just works

lofty pewter Jan 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@brittle vine phanteks AMP, one of the quietest PSUs in that range. That or Corsair RMx

plucky creek Jan 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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which one of these cases is a better deal?

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https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H700-Mid-Tower-Tempered-Water-Cooling/dp/B07D7QK7XR/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=nzxt+h700&qid=1579808604&sr=8-3

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076JF4NQN/ref=twister_B07PK54QYX?th=1

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https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BGW30-Mid-Tower-Pre-Installed-Tempered/dp/B07HKPN3QB/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=silent+base+801&qid=1579808767&sr=8-2

safe radish Jan 23, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I love the be quiet 801

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@plucky creek

stone karma Jan 23, 2020, 9:30 PM

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The h700 may have better airflow than the bquiet.

safe radish Jan 23, 2020, 9:30 PM

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That’s entirely true

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If you have an AiO, shouldn’t worry about it too much though

stone karma Jan 23, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Nzxt has awesome minimalistic designs. I waffle between the h500 and the fractal meshify c.

safe radish Jan 23, 2020, 9:32 PM

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For some reason I don’t like nzxt, no idea why though

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I’m planning a mini itx build, gonna use the phanteks enthoo evolv mini itx

plucky creek Jan 23, 2020, 9:53 PM

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im going for a noctua nh d15

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im doing some oc

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"some"

candid moth Jan 23, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Bruh with a d15 you can do a looooot

plucky creek Jan 23, 2020, 9:55 PM

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yeah

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i already ordered it

stone karma Jan 23, 2020, 9:56 PM

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📎 SmartSelect_20200116-152041_Chrome.jpg

plucky creek Jan 23, 2020, 9:59 PM

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i dont want to overpay for a gpu that goes along well with white case

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probably gonna go full black

vocal talon Jan 23, 2020, 10:37 PM

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h700 just uses brute force of fans for good airflow

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looks nice tho

plucky creek Jan 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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whats the difference between the h700 and the h710

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other than front panel io

stone karma Jan 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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That's about it. The "i" version has an rgb strip in it, I believe.

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Oh, and their CAM controller.

vocal talon Jan 23, 2020, 11:45 PM

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h710 is the newer one

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so minor differences and usb c front panel, if the same price or less get the h710

faint solstice Jan 24, 2020, 12:28 AM

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what are some good budget cases

elfin trout Jan 24, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Fractal design focus g

faint solstice Jan 24, 2020, 12:28 AM

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cool thank

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s

grand briar Jan 24, 2020, 11:14 AM

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@vocal tree @tender root sry for the late reply but here r the pics

📎 IMG_20200124_191304.jpg

grand briar Jan 24, 2020, 11:50 AM

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@young osprey doesnt work

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 1:12 PM

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@grand briar i meant the side of the harddrive, not the front of the case.

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the picture above has the "end" of hdd in the photo

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and it shows the "short/narrow" end of of the drive

young osprey Jan 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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That little curled piece above the drive should be a tab you can pull or push down that will allow you to pull the bracket out without having to do anything to the front panel

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Or maybe the whole cage rotates to the side

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Do you know the model of your case?

rugged sedge Jan 24, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Tryna find a good case with good airflow

pliant bridge Jan 24, 2020, 2:52 PM

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mesh

latent quiver Jan 24, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Is the evga br 500w okay?

lofty pewter Jan 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Br is pretty cheap

latent quiver Jan 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Same as the cx

lofty pewter Jan 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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CX is better

latent quiver Jan 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Cx or br?

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Okay

faint solstice Jan 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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whats a good case around 50-$75?

elfin trout Jan 24, 2020, 9:16 PM

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If you just want to save money and still an OK case, Focus G is good, but theres much better cases at that price range I believe

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 9:27 PM

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i personally like the fractal design define mini c (it is a m-atx case thou)

stone karma Jan 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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The define mini c is a nice minimalistic design. Very understated. The only thing I don't like is that the x570 boards at that size are a minimum of $214 I believe.

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 10:28 PM

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180 or so @stone karma

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KZLwrH/asrock-x570m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-x570m-pro4

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depending on how highly you value the x570 chipset, there are plenty of other options

stone karma Jan 24, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@tender root I missed that one. I was trying remember from a search I did yesterday.

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 10:45 PM

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that one is a bit of a odd one thou

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but it is a perfectly working board

stone karma Jan 24, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Is there a max board that would fit?

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 10:47 PM

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dont remember at the top of my head

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or do you mean, max form factor?

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because max formfactor is m-atx

stone karma Jan 24, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I mean something along the lines of the tomahawk max. Something that wouldn't need a previous gen chip to upgrade.

tender root Jan 24, 2020, 10:49 PM

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the whole "need previous gen chip" is entirely dependant on how old the stock you buy is

candid moth Jan 24, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I know a 75 dollar one

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thats mx

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max

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kRTzK8/msi-b450m-pro-vdh-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-vdh-max

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pro tier

stone karma Jan 24, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Lol. Actually just found that one.

solemn verge Jan 26, 2020, 6:40 AM

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what do you guys think of the nzxt h510

primal remnant Jan 26, 2020, 7:03 AM

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personally i like their H series

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have used them a lot in the past

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but not everyone here likes them iirc

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it's a little pricey

solemn verge Jan 26, 2020, 7:08 AM

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yea

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i already bought it tho

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lol

plucky bough Jan 26, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Airflow isn’t all that great in NZXT cases is it ?

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They look cool though

tender root Jan 26, 2020, 1:27 PM

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depends on the case

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and people overestimate what they actually need

vocal talon Jan 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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its just average, not great but not a hotbox

candid moth Jan 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Anyone know a good case for 100-140? Not meshify c because that the only one i ever get

tender root Jan 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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be quiet 601

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bunch of variants

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@candid moth

candid moth Jan 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Mhm

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any others?

tender root Jan 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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fractal mini c

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or the define's

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(mini c is m-atx thou)

candid moth Jan 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Sorry, shouldve said for atx

tender root Jan 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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aye aye, the mini is the only special one

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(nothing to be sorry about)

candid moth Jan 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Mhm

warm island Jan 26, 2020, 11:46 PM

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can someone tell me the differences between the nzxt h510i and h500i

faint solstice Jan 27, 2020, 1:14 AM

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seems like just the front io

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the 510i has a usb c

vocal talon Jan 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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^

wise hedge Jan 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Apart from speculations, the q300l in my opinion is NOT a hot box. Keeps everything nice and cool with only two fans.

lofty pewter Jan 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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q300l is a smaller q500l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3n80GxU-Zs&t=924s

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Cooler Master Q500L Case Review: We Tried to Make It Good

We tried hard to make Cooler Master's Q500L case perform well, but we just couldn't pull it off. The Q500L is one of the worst thermal performers we've ever tested.
Ad: Buy Gigabyte's Intel Z390 chipset Master motherboard (http://geni.us/eIQnI on Amazon)

Article:

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It most certainly is a hot box comparative to other cases

mighty vine Jan 27, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Why are my tt v200 RGB case fans not picking up in mystic light

wise hedge Jan 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Well in my experience it wasn't. Must have gotten a magical one 🙂

surreal magnet Jan 27, 2020, 2:56 AM

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the Q500l is a hot box if you make it one

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im using it, and its got a buncha fans in it rn

wise hedge Jan 27, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Yeah you just need sufficient airflow. I can admit the small layout can make it a heat trap, but it has plenty of holes for airflow. Get some intake fans and you’re set. My singular $6 arctic fan for intake is quiet and keeping it pretty cool.

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I guess with some higher specs it could get pretty hot but i’m rocking a 2600x and 1660 super. Cpu never gets above 75ish, usually in the 60s under intense load and the gpu never goes above 65ish.

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I also have a stock cpu cooler.

lofty pewter Jan 27, 2020, 6:03 AM

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I did choose my words decently.. Note the "comparative"

scenic lance Jan 27, 2020, 11:19 AM

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so you know what's fun?

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having my front USB ports all simultaneously die

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if anyone knows why this may have happened, let me know

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motherboard is Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 X399
case is Thermaltake Core X5

pliant bridge Jan 27, 2020, 2:10 PM

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bad voltage

scenic lance Jan 28, 2020, 12:20 AM

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What is the difference between the nr600 and nr600 odd?

lofty pewter Jan 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@proper pecan practically no info on it. Only thing I could find was that the type of fan bearing is pretty low quality and will usually fail quicker than other types. But cant really go off that for fan quality anyways (say for monitors, really, really good TN vs an utterly horrible IPS. Said TN would be better despite it being known that TN is worse then IPS).

wise hedge Jan 28, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I believe ODD means it has an Optical Drive slot, not 100% sure so don’t quote me on it. @scenic lance

pliant bridge Jan 28, 2020, 1:42 AM

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thats odd

scenic lance Jan 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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Oh ok thanks, but how did u find my question from over an hour ago?

static sigil Jan 28, 2020, 4:05 AM

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So the case that I'm looking at getting states that it has only 50mm for the radiator on the front without fans.

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Does that mean there's a gap of only 50mm for the radiator, or does that not include fans

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In case you're wondering about the case

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https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/masterbox-mb530p/

scenic lance Jan 28, 2020, 6:55 AM

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what do you think of the o11 dynamic

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should i get it?

static sigil Jan 28, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Depends

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Do you need a full tower

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It's a beautiful case

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Don't get me wrong