#cases-psu-and-cooling | Newegg | Page 28

tawny dust Dec 24, 2019, 6:02 AM

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By the time you posted that it was already purchased

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noise doesn't bother me

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I have heaphones and as long as my comp runs and does what I need it to I don't care if it rattles everything on my walls TBH XD

vagrant sigil Dec 24, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Hey ive got a question will my fractal design g mini case house a msi b360m mother board i havent purchased just researching

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Im just really wanting to know before i go ahead and make a stupid purchase

tender root Dec 24, 2019, 9:47 AM

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@vagrant sigil IF your specific mainboard is micro-atx then it will fit

vagrant sigil Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Oh thank god yeah it says m-atx

tender root Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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best of luck with your build then :)

vagrant sigil Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Sorry its just my first build and i dont want to screw it up

tender root Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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nothing to be sorry about :)

vagrant sigil Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Thank youuu

tender root Dec 24, 2019, 9:48 AM

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have a happy holiday

vagrant sigil Dec 24, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Happy holidays to you too

vital geyser Dec 24, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Guys is 600 w psu enough to power an rtx 2070 super or do i have to upgrade

primal remnant Dec 24, 2019, 11:26 PM

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RTX 2070 Super and what else?

pine ridge Dec 25, 2019, 1:09 AM

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That's the question ^

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Plug your build into PC part picker or newegg and they have power calculators on there. Go a size or two up.

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However, just to note: the "minimum power supply recommended" on my 2070 super was listed as 650W.

indigo relic Dec 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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So some advice from y’all

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I was gonna build my brother a pc. It’s rated at 424 watts on pcpartpicker

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My friends has a brand new Corsair TXM 550W that he ended up not using

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Would I be fine just using that in his pc

opal night Dec 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Ye

indigo relic Dec 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Don’t wanna stress the psu to much

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Aight thx

opal night Dec 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Welcome!

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As long as you have ALL the components in Partpicker

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and didn't leave anything out

indigo relic Dec 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Yea everything is in there

opal night Dec 25, 2019, 3:36 AM

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You'll be good

mystic cradle Dec 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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i'm from Argentina, is this PSU any good? It will be paired with a 1600 or 2600 and Sapphire Nitro+ rx 590. I know its a little overkill but i think it's the only decent psu that is in stock in the website that i look for the PC parts

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unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 4:43 AM

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is the corsair x500 psu still reliable? (i currently using one.)

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 5:59 AM

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depends on what gpu you decide on getting anything above a 2060 super and i would go up on the wattage

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 6:01 AM

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actually, the wattage should be fine for up to a 2070S, but instead as an upgrade path they should be looking at a 5700XT, only $400 and trades blows with said 2070S

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er, maybe a 2070 it was rather than a 2070S

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but still, the 5700XT is a very powerful GPU, more than enough for the foreseeable future (it'll last through next gen of GPUs probably for 1080p

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 6:07 AM

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fun fact: a rich kid threw out a box and i found the psu in it.

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:08 AM

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From my personal experience with the 5700xt i do not recommend it to anyone until AMD debugs the driver for the card. I had 3 different cards and all of them had the same issue. Black screening, random restarts, and crashing when doing simple tasks like browsing the internet.

opal night Dec 25, 2019, 6:08 AM

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What brands?

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 6:09 AM

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well is think i should go for rtx 2070 super

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and kill my non existent wallet

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:10 AM

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powercolor red devil

opal night Dec 25, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Huh, interesting. I thought that was one of the good ones. What PSU did you have?

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:11 AM

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750w thermaltake smart pro 80 plus bronze

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the psu isnt the issue i have the 2070S and no issues but this is a #graphics-cards topic lol

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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well sometimes we slip up

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ima move this to #graphics-cards

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PSU Corsair CX 500W, 80 Plus Bronze

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this brand i have rn

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:14 AM

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yeah that should be just fine

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 6:15 AM

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fun fact: i got that psu for free

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from a rich kids trash

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:16 AM

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The best kind so long as it works. I'd buy a cheap tester from Amazon and make sure it's good.

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 6:18 AM

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the thermaltake smart pro power supplies are not very good

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:20 AM

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I mean I am not having issues with anything after the GPU swap.

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 6:22 AM

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that's interesting, you must have got a defective GPU

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:22 AM

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3 defective GPUs

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 6:22 AM

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a sad situation

dim trellis Dec 25, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Not possible lol

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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@unborn shadow cx is decently fine, tho is that the PSU that "rich kid" threw out?
@mystic cradle That PSU isnt bad. I wouldnt go 750w even for future proofing. If my PC were high end enough to take more than 650w I'd get a better PSU (note: wattage and rating mean very little in PSU quality. There are a lot of things for a PSU to be good/bad in)
@indigo relic That depends. What CPU and GPU you have? PCPP isnt always correct
@primal remnant TT Smart Pro RGB arent horrible like the standard TT Smart ones are. Tho they certainly arent great either. Wouldnt be a PSU I'd recommend but should handle a 5700XT and some decent CPU

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 6:59 AM

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It's the RGB Hei

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it makes them more powerful

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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I have the rgb one

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gud

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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thought you meant the RGB made it worse

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for a sec there

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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i was making a joke about the prevalence of RGB

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it is now everywhere

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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better joke
RGB is -20% perf

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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wrong

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rgb always adds performance

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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it adds negative perf

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🙂

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:01 AM

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primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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as someone with zero lighting and no windows, my opinion is a little skewed

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If I had a window and RGB it'd keep me up at night

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:03 AM

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rgb

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always

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:03 AM

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my monitor takes a while to shut off which is okay

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but the RGB would just drive me bonkers

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:03 AM

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no

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embrace it

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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i never will embrace it

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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theo_shakes

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I like RGB for slowing going between two - three colors (like cyan to dark blue and then back again or smth)

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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you will embrace the dancing lights

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I hate the RGB puke

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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no

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blob blob blob

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how could you say such hurtful things to the happy blob

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:05 AM

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It adds no true beauty to the build

indigo relic Dec 25, 2019, 7:05 AM

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@lofty pewter 5700 xt and a 3600

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Just makes it look like a mess

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:05 AM

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it'd be cool if you could make it pulsate in like one color

long lynx Dec 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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you can

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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also RGB has only really been a thing for a couple years on the scale it's at now

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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@indigo relic Yeah you are good

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550w is fine for that

indigo relic Dec 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Yeet thx

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:08 AM

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@primal remnant Yet it has infected its way to RGB HDMI/power cables, RGB chairs, etc

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:09 AM

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yeah

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i remember the cold cathode lights - you can still get those btw and i'm regretting not getting a window now because of it

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just warm, single-color light

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:09 AM

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oh yeah, RGB headsets (nani the heck, you cant even see it)

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:09 AM

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at low levels

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何！？

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Ah yes, what a perfect nani (I assume)

primal remnant Dec 25, 2019, 7:13 AM

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yes that is the character for what? in Japanese

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is used in a bunch of other words too

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Not surprised there

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 8:04 AM

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I’m a bit late awnser my but year it’s the psu the rich kid threw out.

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Automatic correct dam u!

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Well it could be a faulty or old PSU, in which case not an amazing decision to use it

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:06 AM

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well its decent and i tested it and its in perfectly working order

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seriously why would someone throw away a perfectly good psu?

vocal tree Dec 25, 2019, 9:07 AM

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👀

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:08 AM

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tested or "tested"?
Like a full on test, voltage regulation/ripple, crossloads, protections, etc and make sure everything is in check?

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:08 AM

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tested like i installed it and connected everything and it worked.

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i have spare builds that i test stuff

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Isnt much of a test. Only thing that says is that it isnt dead rn. Tho it can still be faulty and do some random 💩

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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been using it for the past 5 months

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nothing unusual came up.

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Well hope that it isnt bad. I myself cant trust used PSUs unless I know the person decently well

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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i like to take risks

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I dont want to risk my 1k+ PC (esp since im in canada so increase that a bit)

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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heh we are both canadians

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but my pc is estemated 700$

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i think idk i did not count in the first place

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Well then, hello there fellow Canadian

unborn shadow Dec 25, 2019, 9:33 AM

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we are freezing our arses off in northern manitoba btw.

sturdy valve Dec 25, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Umm it’s long story so I make it short. My husband’s pc had a sudden went black screen

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So I switched my psu to his pc. Finally it’s working

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My psu connected. It’s water cooled custom pc.

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Old psu with double rail. Possibly double failure

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scenic lance Dec 25, 2019, 9:31 PM

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So the RM750x seems to have failed? What's in the pc? Guessing 9900k/2080 ti since that looks like an aorus xtreme waterforce.

lofty pewter Dec 25, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@scenic lance HX failed, RMx is from a diff PC that was taken out for testing

hollow spoke Dec 25, 2019, 9:58 PM

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lucky it didnt take other parts with it

latent light Dec 25, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Is the Corsair CX series good?

sturdy valve Dec 25, 2019, 10:42 PM

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ehh

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single/multiple is the cause @latent light @scenic lance

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when it was built. it was toggled on multipe which we didnt know so until the pc started behaving weirdly in few months after built. like often waking up its own. Then it started worse like running a game then it shut and restart on its own. so we tried to test with benchmark but kept doing shut down and restarted, me and friends started researching. that how i found about single/multipe toggle

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@opal night here the story how it started, so I remembered the first cause.

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we toggled the single on, it stopped behaving weirdly for longer time until few weeks ago it started up waking up again often and last night, it stopped connecting to GPU, black screen but everything else works. So I decided to take my RM750x and connected to his pc. It started up wonderful and running good. So Corsair 1200 HX is terrible. So We ordered better one from Seasonic.

scenic lance Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Nice - which seasonic model?

past lynx Dec 26, 2019, 6:50 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGRRZZS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ncqbEbJGKQ333

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Anyone know how good this is?

worldly dust Dec 26, 2019, 7:52 PM

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it wouldnt be my first choice

meager quarry Dec 26, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Hey guys, I currently have an undervolted 1080ti 1793MHz @ 845mV paired up to an i5 7600k 4.7GHz @ 1.24V that's probably not safe for long on my CX550M and was wondering what specific power supply I should be looking at before I can throw a full load at it without worry. I was looking at renewed units (from amazon) but not sure how those would fare. Enlighten me with 12v rails and cross-loads and all that jazz lol

inland kite Dec 26, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Be Quiet power supplies would be high on my choice list if they were more common in the UK

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They are a pretty good PSU brand

past lynx Dec 26, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Oh nice. Thx!

worldly dust Dec 26, 2019, 8:05 PM

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its got some sketchy reviews but I have never owned one

inland kite Dec 26, 2019, 8:05 PM

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This one is my favourite

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"Ill give it two less stars because it has more outputs than I thought it would have"

past lynx Dec 26, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Guess I’ll stay away from that psu lol. Amazon reviews always give me a good laugh

lofty pewter Dec 26, 2019, 8:49 PM

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@meager quarry Unless you're CXM is dying those components are fine with that PSU. That's like max of 460w power consumption for the PC

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12v rail has enough amperage and crossloads should be fine cuz it isn't group regulated

scenic lance Dec 26, 2019, 11:01 PM

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So I just made a new parts list on pc part picker, and I love it but when it came to the wattage useage its like 489W would a 650W be plenty even if i decided to upgrade it down the road?

inland kite Dec 26, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Yes.

scenic lance Dec 26, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I thought so

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Figured 150 extra watts would be plenty good

inland kite Dec 26, 2019, 11:02 PM

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CPUs and GPUs get more power efficient almost as fast as they get more power demanding.

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My 3950X is something like 13W higher TDP than my old i5 4690k

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For 4x the cores, 8x the thread, higher clockspeeds all round.

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GPUs follow the same trend

scenic lance Dec 26, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Care to see my parts list? I need to save it real quick

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Never mind... I just freaking started a new one by mistake 🤦‍♂️

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Now i have to hunt back down the parts i had picked out

blazing obsidian Dec 26, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Rip

lofty pewter Dec 26, 2019, 11:31 PM

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@scenic lance Over buying on PSUs is fine. But if it's a 650w you'd best get a decent high end one. Mostly because if a PC were to take that much wattage it'd be high end (3700x and 2080Ti would be a good pair with 650w)

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Kinda sucks to buy some high wattage PSU like 850w and have it be budget (lots of EVGA models for example like BR, G3, W1, etc)
Note: wattage and rating mean little in terms of PSU quality. Voltage regulation/ripple, protections, and such

scenic lance Dec 26, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I actually got the parts list if youd like to see, and PlusNomad edited it for me also

lofty pewter Dec 26, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Sure I guess. Might as well look

scenic lance Dec 26, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Ye, I'l send you the links.

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 1:41 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Supply-Modular-Bronze-GAMEMAX-VP-600-M-RGB/dp/B07SH7DHBS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=600w+power+supplyu\&qid=1577410745&sr=8-1

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Guys this is a great quality psu at a cheap price

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It also has rgb lighting

tender root Dec 27, 2019, 1:52 AM

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considering the very "interesting" relationship it has with words. I think ill pass on that

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71xuD8jWIxL._SL1500_.jpg

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:37 AM

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@proper pecan Great quality? Where are the sources on that?

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:38 AM

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its made by gamemax a good company

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not as good as corsair or evga

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but good enough

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:38 AM

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lol

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never judge a PSU by company

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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ok so you think it is bad psu?

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i have a rosewill psu

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Seasonic, EVGA, Corsair, etc make 💩 PSUs

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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wdy

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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as well as good ones

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:39 AM

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wdym

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oh

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evga and corsair are literally the only good ones in the psu market lol

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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voltage regulation/ripple, protections, crossloads, fan noise/quality, reliability

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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dude

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i mean in general

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chill tf ot

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out

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if it has good reviews then...

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ik that is such a wrong statement

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but that is my opinion

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and it has worked for me so far

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:40 AM

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All are unknowns on the gamemax. I looked around. Im pretty pucky when coming to PSUs cuz they can murder your entire system

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Thermaltake Litepower would work for you as well. Till it kills your PC

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as it's one of the worst PSUs out there

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:41 AM

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thermaltake yeah they make good cases and other stuff lmaoo

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thats it

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:42 AM

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PSUs are a heck of a topic to talk about sometimes

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Sure that gamemax might be good, but cuz I have no sources on real reviews I cant say it is

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:42 AM

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i mean in general if your buying a new psu from amazon or newegg thats evga or corsair your gonna have a good xperience

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also i hate non modular psu lmaoo

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Here are not great PSUs from those companies
Corsair: VS, CXM, few others
EVGA: B1, BR, few others

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:44 AM

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oh yeah because the b series are like renewed right?

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:45 AM

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idk, but as the list I gave earlier with quality, they have issues with that

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:45 AM

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sometimes not all the time

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:45 AM

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depends on the model itself

proper pecan Dec 27, 2019, 2:45 AM

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they are a good budget option

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 2:46 AM

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not really. Corsair CX is about the best you can get for budget. EVGA B2, GD, GQ, BQ, G1, BT, etc or Corsair CXM, VS, etc suck in comparison

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I dont mind recommending good PSUs, but I need to know everything (voltage regulation/ripple, protections, crossloads, fan noise/quality, coil whine, temperature rating, transient response, reliability in lifetime, etc) is good

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:06 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qM3g3t
Is this (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EMAO/ref=twister_B07RBCD515?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1) power supply good enough for the build?

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:11 AM

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@scenic lance TT smart is a 💩 PSU

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:11 AM

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oh

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frick

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alright

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Also, that RAM is overpriced. $50 gets you 16gb

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Yet you have $40 for 8gb

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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that psu has good reviews because the company was reimbursing people for leaving a positive review

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158810?Description=evo poten&cm_re=evo_poten-_-20-158-810-_-Product

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I'd also spend a bit more on mobo for upgradeabilty. It's fine for that CPU, but not really for future ones due to VRMs (power delivery)

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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geil potenza 16gb@3200mhz 52 bucks

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and its cl 16

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Yeah Ik. Got the ram a while back without realizing

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Oof. To reduce costs only get one 144Hz monitor and a SATA SSD instead of NVMe

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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What about this? https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0550-L1/dp/B01LYGJL0E/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=550w+power+supply&qid=1577416524&s=electronics&sr=1-3

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Then pour any the money into the rest of the system

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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EVGA is good.

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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N1 isnt good tho

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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5 year warranty

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Come on box, don't go by brand

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Plz

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:16 AM

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alright

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Corsair CX is generally the cheapest PSU that's good

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-100-BR-0600-K1-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B07DTP6QKG/ref=pd_sbs_147_8?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07DTP6QKG&pd_rd_r=569cf0bb-ee67-4eaa-9000-2d7ec4bcdbf4&pd_rd_w=bHp6U&pd_rd_wg=xP8Qy&pf_rd_p=5873ae95-9063-4a23-9b7e-eafa738c2269&pf_rd_r=Q86SZ2AKW553SFFT7KNT&psc=1&refRID=Q86SZ2AKW553SFFT7KNT

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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BR isnt good either tbh

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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i mean its a psu

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=550w+power+supply&qid=1577416620&s=electronics&sr=1-9 this?

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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if it dies buy another one lol

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Oh thanks @dim trellis

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:18 AM

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what about voltage regulation/ripple, protections, crossloads, fan noise/quality, coil whine, temperature rating, transient response, reliability in lifetime, etc?

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If it dies what about your entire PC?

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:18 AM

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i have a 750 80 plus gold TT smart pro rgb and i dont have any issues

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Also @lofty pewter I need two monitors for productivity

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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my friends died and nothing happened lol

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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bad choice going 144Hz for productivity. Higher Hz means worse colors

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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It's just programming, don't really need great colors

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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i mean you can get a supernova and be good forever

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Just cuz it hasnt happened yet doesnt mean it wont. I havent died yet so that means I wont die right?

west bridge Dec 27, 2019, 3:19 AM

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@lofty pewter Not entirely true

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Supernova is meh

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G2 is the only good one

west bridge Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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My monitor has amazing colors and it is 144hz

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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and its overpriced

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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arent all the "Good" ones tho?

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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lol

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:20 AM

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@west bridge Compare a good 144 to good 60. See 60 have better colors

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:21 AM

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if you want a cheap one the cooler master 550w on ebay for 38 OBO

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:21 AM

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G1 is old, G3 has bad OTP and something else

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G5 is pretty meh

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used PSUs are sketchy

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and, you havent mentioned the model

west bridge Dec 27, 2019, 3:22 AM

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@lofty pewter 144hz is worth it In my opinion, the fps is awesome

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:22 AM

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elite v2

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 3:22 AM

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well, what do you suggest then Hei.

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:23 AM

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got to look at reviews

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:23 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/RS-550-PCAR-N1-Cooler-Master-550W-PSU-ATX-12V-V2-3-Switching-Power-Supply/223738111973?epid=1767084781&hash=item3417d4a7e5:g:340AAOSwOzldwxCU

eBay

RS-550-PCAR-N1 Cooler Master 550W PSU ATX 12V V2.3 Switching Power...

No one is EVER ignored!

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Cuz V2 isnt in my knowledge

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:25 AM

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i believe itll do the job....for how long I have no idea. i bought that one in a bundle with a rx570 for 95 bucks

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:26 AM

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I really have my doubts on the V2

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like this

fierce knoll Dec 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Ive never had a used PSU ladt more than a few months. Theyre fine for a stop gap until you can afford something new but not to count on.

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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cant even get 400w on 12v rails. Cant even get 550w either

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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thats what im looking for my wife isnt a serious gamer so she may play 8 hour per week. itll do the job. a 4770k and a rx570 thats it

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probably wont even get close to 200w of power

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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over 200w max on GPU alone

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dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:32 AM

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350 then <_>

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:32 AM

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also is group regulated. So that can cause instabilities

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:35 AM

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gamerstorm 750 no idea anything else about it. It lasted about 6 months until my friend put a 2080S in his build

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:37 AM

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I wouldnt buy that Coolermaster PSU. Caps arent amazing and wont last too long

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considering it is already used, their lifespan is probably coming close

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:38 AM

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its already here if it dies ill just go and buy her a new one

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:39 AM

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V2 is decent. Tho lifespan wont be good due to caps and sleeve bearing fan, and wattage isnt 550w

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which are semi major hits

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:47 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-smart-pro-rgb-bronze-ps-spr-0750fpcbus-r-750w/p/N82E16817153312?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Bing&AFFID=3624890&AFFNAME=Bing&ACRID=1&ASUBID=7F77CAB43D9E1AAE83BEE504FFFFFFFF&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=3624890&ranSiteID=msYS1Nvjv4c-exlWVBZUYsWTqu07.LSPAg

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80 plus bronze not gold sorry

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 3:47 AM

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I'd hope you didnt get that at that price tho

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It isnt a horrible PSU, but at that price it certainly is

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 3:51 AM

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it was like 68 bucks if i remember correctly

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*86....

lofty pewter Dec 27, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Yee I probably would go for that for $86 even

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then again I focus more on perf rather than looks

scenic lance Dec 27, 2019, 7:28 AM

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I do like the G2 supernovas over the G3/P2, but the high output platforms of the P2/T2 can be a great value when bought on sale.
1600/1200 T2/P2/G2 units are very popular for high demand OC use.

ebon vault Dec 27, 2019, 4:38 PM

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You guys know of any good black tempered glass mid towers?

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Are you on a budget?

pure torrent Dec 27, 2019, 5:11 PM

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If you’re on a budget, I’ve always thought this looked like a nice case
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854068

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The black/white version has a rebate too if you don’t mind it not being all black

dim trellis Dec 27, 2019, 5:19 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-MATREXX-55-Supply-Computer/dp/B07GVL3CKJ?th=1&psc=1

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If you want something with cable management

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Matrexx 50***

flat eagle Dec 27, 2019, 8:29 PM

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check out that Rosewill case

barren basin Dec 27, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I wouldn't recommend the Matrexx 55

primal remnant Dec 28, 2019, 12:39 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/matte-white-black-nzxt-h-series-h510-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811146317 my favorite budget case

ebon vault Dec 28, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I’m getting the Corsair icue atx mid tower case

lofty pewter Dec 28, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Overpriced case with a semi closed off front panel despite being an "airflow" case

elfin bloom Dec 28, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Yeah what i was going to say

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-nr600-without-odd-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119368

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this is another good option

mighty vine Dec 28, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Can a thermaltake v200 RGB handle a 2070s

plucky bough Dec 28, 2019, 2:45 PM

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You mean the cables or the wattage ?

flat eagle Dec 28, 2019, 2:51 PM

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v200 is a case Ziky lol

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@mighty vine yes.

plucky bough Dec 28, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Oh my bad

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Too many PSU chats today I guess lol

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😅😅

normal grail Dec 28, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Just finished my first pc build ^^. Gpu is a little tight. I have a phantecs p300 case. Temps look okay however i think a larger case is in order. Has anybody got any recomendations?

tender root Dec 28, 2019, 4:06 PM

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unless you need the space for adding something else to your build, there is no need for a bigger case @normal grail

normal grail Dec 28, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Okay, cheers.

rich tartan Dec 28, 2019, 7:22 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm-series-rm750-cp-9020195-na-750w/p/N82E16817139168?

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What do y’all think of this psu

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm750x-cp-9020179-na-750w/p/N82E16817139233

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Or this one

elfin trout Dec 28, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Both are good, RMx might be slightly better

rich tartan Dec 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Aight thx

lofty pewter Dec 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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RMx has better caps so has a slightly higher theoretical lifespan.

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But I mean this PSU is also basically the same for like $10 - $20 cheaper so yee
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fq4BD3/phanteks-amp-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p750g_us01

scenic lance Dec 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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my lenovo H50 lied to me about having an ATX psu so i got an adapter and i happy

fringe granite Dec 29, 2019, 4:57 AM

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is there any downside to using a psu with higher wattage than what your pc needs?

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ex. using a 700W PSU when you only need 500

worldly dust Dec 29, 2019, 5:07 AM

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@fringe granite nope

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other than perhaps using more electricity and having to pay a few more pennies on your electric bill

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I actually usually go a little higher not ridiculous mind you but about 200w more than I need to keep noise down. The closer to its maximum output the PSU is generally means the fans will ramp up and be louder.

fringe granite Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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im not really sure why the 700W is the cheapest here

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just was wondering if any reason not to go for 700W

lofty pewter Dec 29, 2019, 5:51 AM

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@fringe granite Because you spend more on wattage and less on quality. EVGA GD is a budget PSU

fringe granite Dec 29, 2019, 5:52 AM

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well i have a budget of $1000 for the whole system

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how about this one?

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CORSAIR TX-M Series TX550M 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Semi-Modular Power Supply

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it's a bit more expensive but semi-modular

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whoops was looking at the wrong thing, edited

crystal kettle Dec 29, 2019, 6:19 AM

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What are the best air flow cases

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Also recommended wattage on a psu to run pretty much anything on the market and future proof?

primal remnant Dec 29, 2019, 8:44 AM

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i went with the RM 2009

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power supply

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response to something earlier, i lost track

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er 2019

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2009? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

lofty pewter Dec 29, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Few of the cheap PSUs that are quite good are Corsair RM/RMx and Phanteks AMP

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Bitfenix Formula Gold/Whisper M (if you can find them in stock)

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@fringe granite TXM is good, but I rarely see it at a price being good

fringe granite Dec 29, 2019, 8:49 AM

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$73.98 on newegg after rebate

scenic lance Dec 29, 2019, 8:49 AM

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EVGA had some fantastic new PSU sales yesterday. Idk if still up.

fringe granite Dec 29, 2019, 8:50 AM

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either way i already placed the order

lofty pewter Dec 29, 2019, 8:51 AM

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okay. I never look into rebate pricing, just standard full pricing and sale

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so with rebate pricing considered, it's pretty well priced

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:38 AM

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hmm

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im starting to think i should have gone with 600W

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will i be ok?

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not planning to overclock the cpu that much

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:39 AM

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what psu do you currently have

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:40 AM

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i ordered a CORSAIR TX-M Series TX550M

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sorry i forgot to specify 550W

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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I think you'll be okay

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but I wouldnt do anything to push your pc.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:42 AM

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if i can cancel the order still would it be worth changing it for a 650W

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i ordered it from newegg last night like 16 hours ago

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might still be cancellable

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650W of the same model is $10 more

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:44 AM

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IMO yes, but im not the best judge of that. I like to go big for upgradability down the line. I have been using an 850 watt for years and when i started i barely drew 400 watts of power if that.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:44 AM

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yeah im gonna do it just for peace of mind

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:44 AM

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it just depends on if you wanna wait for it i guess

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 12:44 AM

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$500 ish gpu, $200 cpu, $100 MB, etc - spending $80-$120 on a 750w gold/plat from a high end model line could last you a decade

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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the 650W model is $83.98 with shipping

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750W is $10 more

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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that^ upgradabillity is key imo cause you don't really wanna spend 1k now only to have to spend another 1k when its time to upgrade

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:45 AM

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so you guys think i should go straight for 750?

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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if you can afford it, and plan to keep upgrading in the future, its worth it.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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850 becomes quite a bit more expensive

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but 750 is only $20 more than the 550

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so thats a CORSAIR TX-M Series TX750M 80+ gold

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:46 AM

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750 is what i usually reccomend but i went with an 850 cause i found an amazing deal lol

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 12:47 AM

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That ^ - don't fixate on a set wattage rating - always look around for deals.
Nothing wrong with buying more wattage than needed.
The unit will run cooler and quieter at a lower % load.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 AM

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this is the best deal i can see on a 750W 80+ gold PSU where people don't mention exploding

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shrug_idk

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i do prefer PSUs that don't explode

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it's $89.99 with free shipping

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:49 AM

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i havent had a psu explode but i have boughten a psu that claimed 700 watt but only put out about 400

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although i think they arent allowed to do that anymore

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 12:49 AM

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As in you tried to pull more and it didn't work?

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:50 AM

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as in the fine print said something else but it said 750watt in big letters on the box

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Or you just never actually pulled 750w from it? It only outputs what you need. Its not like constantly giving 100W to your CPU even when idle

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:50 AM

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i was young and didnt know what i was doing so i bought a sketchy psu

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still got it in another pc lol

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Sounds like maybe the +12v rail could only do 400? That would still be a bit odd.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:51 AM

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so i'm looking at pcpartpicker and filtering by 750+ W, gold, and semi/full modular

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the only cheaper one is from a brand i've never heard of

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:51 AM

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lemme pull it out

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 12:51 AM

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If its be quiet, its a good brand.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:51 AM

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anyone know this brand?

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Corsair? Never heard of them

vocal talon Dec 30, 2019, 12:52 AM

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oh boy

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I’m having flashbacks to that psu

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:52 AM

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its a 750e not a 750 watt

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:53 AM

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what does that mean

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:54 AM

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and for whatever reason it wouldn't let me draw more than 400 watts

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:54 AM

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ohh i thought you were talking about the corsair txm

vocal talon Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 AM

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isn’t that another brand?

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:55 AM

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oh no i was talking about my first psu lol

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i had to upgrade the one from my og pc, that one was like 40 bucks

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on sale, but 40 bucks. thought i was just getting a great deal and it worked til i tried to put a 560 in it lol

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:56 AM

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well i was able to cancel my order for the 550W

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so i just ordered the 750W

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:56 AM

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thats good

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the rest of your build looks great

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:57 AM

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thanks for the advice

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Are you sure you asked it for more than 400 watts?

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:57 AM

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this is my first build so i'm new to all this

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:58 AM

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all gotta start somewhere

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 12:58 AM

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luckily one of the first things i heard was "don't buy the cheapest psu you can find"

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i managed to snag a nice deal on the 1080ti for $400 new

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that thing is real power hungry though

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 12:59 AM

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@scenic lance im not sure actually i didnt know much about pcs at the time at all so i had a friend come over who trouble shot it and he told me the psu wasnt allowing more than 400 watts, so we went to go get a new one and it worked immediately. hes also the one who lent me the 560 lol

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yeah a friend gave me 2 680s and i wanted to sli bridge em in an old system but they draw 500watts together

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 1:00 AM

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damn

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you'd probably want a 1000W PSU then?

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or something in that territory

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:01 AM

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The friend who gave it to me had a 1200

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 AM

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i've seen some 1500W PSUs i wonder what those are used for

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maybe mining rigs

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 AM

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1600 T2/P2 EVGA and sometimes corsair ax1600i's, also 2000W leadex 8 packs are popular for benching. Seasonic too

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:04 AM

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It can be used for a ton of things. Just out of our league

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I’ve always wanted to build a power hungry server machine lol

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:05 AM

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1500w would draw about 5x the power my house usually does throughout the day when my PC isnt on.

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 1:06 AM

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i wonder how crazy industrial power supplies get

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:06 AM

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I mean, we can all agree, if any of us were on the richer side of things we'd build ridiculous machines just for bragging rights

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Server PSU's go up to about 2250 watts, most are 750/920/1200/1600 etc.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:07 AM

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100% would do that lol

fringe granite Dec 30, 2019, 1:07 AM

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i know a guy who makes minimum wage and still makes sure he has the latest and greatest

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lowkey think he might be a drug dealer

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 AM

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PCs are probably a cheaper hobby than drugs at least haha

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But same thing sometimes...

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 AM

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I know a few people like that. Idk how they do it. I make 15-20 an hour and still can’t keep up

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Not really.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Can confirm I’ve spent more on pc than drugs

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 AM

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I could easily live on 500 a month where I do.

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If I wanted to.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:09 AM

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So can I

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:09 AM

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It doesn't count if your parents pay the rent in your house.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:10 AM

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I actually moved back into my parents house to afford college and then the government ended up paying for my entire tuition so far so now I have even more cash flow and I still can’t keep up

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I was paying 1k a month in bills on my own

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And I lived more than comfortably

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It’s cheap down here lol

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:11 AM

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1k a month bills?

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How do bills even amass to that much

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:12 AM

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700 rent, 50 electric, 20 water, 150 food, 100 cable and internet, and actually I left out my car note which is 300 but everything except that was split between me and my fiancé

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:12 AM

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700 a month rent? Yikes.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Yeah I don’t live in a shack

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:13 AM

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My one bedroom furnished apartment in a good area is 50 a week.

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In GBP though not America's monopoly money.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Gbp?

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:14 AM

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A two bedroom would be about 70 a week, been considering upgrading just for more space.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:14 AM

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Do you live in America

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:14 AM

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The country or continent?

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Country

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Also, which continent?

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Of course not. I use GBP. You have google.

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Americans are lucky with how cheap their tech is

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Meh it’s still hella expensive. I mean I get it’s more expensive in other places but I wouldn’t call it cheap

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I can get a car for the price of a pc

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:17 AM

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I can get two. Its not "cheap" in general as tech isnt cheap, its just outright one of the cheapest if not the cheapest country to buy tech.

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Here it's about 30% the price of the US.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:18 AM

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30% more?

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Yes, my bad.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:18 AM

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I know in places like Australia games are over 100 bucks and even with conversion that’s rediculous

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Aus to GBP is like 2:1. To USD its like what, 1.6 AUD per 1 USD?

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1.43, yikes the exchange rate.

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Not sure if the AUD has gone up or USD has gone down.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:19 AM

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But yeh iunno. 700 dollars rent is cheap as heck. Where I’m looking to move soon an apartment half of this once’s size and it’s 1k minimum. In many places it’s like 1500 minimum

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:20 AM

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In London my brother pays about £1k a month for a one bedroom flat. My mother I believe pays £400 a month for a 5 bedroom semi detached house here about 3-4 miles from down town..

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:26 AM

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geez

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does she have ac and electrical

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cause that seems to good to be true lol

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:27 AM

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AC?

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Oh air con

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Most countries around the world don't really use things like AC

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I can't really think of any country in europe that has them as "standard" as the US does.

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:27 AM

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every country ive been to does, which, granted arent that many

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I don't think Ive ever physically been inside a house with AC in my life.

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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How common are window unit AC's in the UK?

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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A window unit AC being...?

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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People make pc chillers out of them all the time in the US

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:28 AM

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thats what im used to seeing in some countries where it wqouldnt be common place i guess

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window ac is a box that sits in your window and blow cold air

inland kite Dec 30, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Oh Ive seen those in cartoons. Never once seen one in person, nor for sale in the UK

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Nor anywhere in europe tbf

tender root Dec 30, 2019, 1:31 AM

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a mate out on holloway road has one

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 1:34 AM

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i just accidentally ate a habanero help

meager quarry Dec 30, 2019, 4:06 AM

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EVGA 700 GD, 80+ Gold 700W, 5 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-GD-0700-V1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W956JBC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vBxcEbM7AYBTK

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Are these series good

lofty pewter Dec 30, 2019, 4:16 AM

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GD is pretty meh. Almost always bad for the price. Esp that specific PSU. Like $100 ($10 more) for a modular PSU with better quality (examples [just a list of quality examples, GD may or may not have issues with these]: voltage ripple/regulation, protections, fan noise, coil whine, quality of caps)

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Stupid question, will this case be a tight fit for an ATX mobo?
NZXT H710 - ATX Mid Tower PC Gaming Case - Front I/O USB Type-C Port - Quick-Release Tempered Glass Side Panel - Cable Management System - Water-Cooling Ready - Steel Construction - Black/Red https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16811146324?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1

glacial needle Dec 30, 2019, 6:02 AM

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We used an atx board in the nzxt h510 and it was rightish but it fits just fine

scenic lance Dec 30, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Ok thanks

static sigil Dec 30, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Any good looking cases that could be upgraded later to a custom water loop (when it comes time eventually)? The case I'm currently looking at getting is the crystal 570X which runs at about 175, if I could get a case for that or even less that would be great

indigo relic Dec 30, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I personally like the Lian Li 011 dynamic

vocal talon Dec 30, 2019, 2:56 PM

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^ solid case

barren basin Dec 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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like the fragile glass over it lol

mighty vine Dec 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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I'm planning on getting a thermaltake v200 RGB case, but I want to know how to fans connect with the RGB switch board

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For fans in general is there just one plug or is there 2

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Do I plug the plugs into the controller then plug on 12v 4 pin into my mobo

opal night Dec 30, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Most likely, yes

tender root Dec 30, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@mighty vine look up the manual for the case

mighty vine Dec 30, 2019, 9:29 PM

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I just watched a vid on it

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Should have done that in the first place

meager quarry Dec 31, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Bought it for $20, I couldn't find it on any tier list but just gonna ask, is it good for a single-gpu (1080 ti) mid-grade gaming PC with substantial overclocking (i7 9700k)

📎 JPEG_20191230_204843.jpg

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Very cryptic branding, "X-Series, Go For Gold!"

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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I'd say so

small steeple Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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thats good

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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750 watts will run a 3950X and a 2080

glacial needle Dec 31, 2019, 4:52 AM

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If it had the pin slots it should be fine

meager quarry Dec 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Thanks, it's crazy how this brand new could easily be $130+
Guess we've been too spoiled with low SSD/ram/CPU prices that we have to have that one expensive component

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 5:24 AM

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650 or 750 watts 80+ gold good for a ryzen 5 3600x and 5700xt

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Ya, 700 watts minimum for a 5700XT

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Ok thank you

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Well, 700 watts recommended

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Recommended psu 750 watts 80+ and fully modular

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Are you asking for a recommendation?

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 5:29 AM

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yes

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Ah, k

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10 year warranty Seasonic

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https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-750FX-Modular-Warranty-Compact/dp/B073GWKDVM

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Thanks

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 5:30 AM

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YW

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:10 AM

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@terse sluice 3600 and 5700XT can run off 550w just fine

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Also note, that Seasonic PSU is overpriced. Decent 750w shouldnt be $150

small steeple Dec 31, 2019, 6:12 AM

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SeaSonic

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has great warranty

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also the packaging is fantastic

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:13 AM

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ok thanks

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so 650w could be good then

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:15 AM

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and seasonic Focus series has had bad rumors about voltage ripple

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plus are usually pricier than competitors for realistically, no reason other than name brand

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:15 AM

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650 good right?

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:16 AM

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650w is fine, will do any standard high end build

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3700x and 2080Ti for example will run off 650w

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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ok thank you cause i just watched a video were bitwit used a 650 and he had a 2080 super and R7 3700x

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxL48d/corsair-rm-2019-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020194-na
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/phanteks-amp-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p650g_us01

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two decent 650w PSUs for $100

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pick whatever

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:17 AM

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perfect thanks

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Im gonna go with corsair cause i hear d good about them

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:19 AM

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That's fine. But a note for the future, dont go by brand. Corsair, Seasonic, Phanteks, etc all make 💩 PSUs too, as well as good ones of course

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:19 AM

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What place do you recommend for sleeved cables if you used any

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and true thanks

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Never looked into sleeved cables so idk. Doing extensions or replacing the cables entirely?

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If replacing, some PSUs change the pin out on the PSU making it incompatible with other cables

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If using incompatible cables you can easily damage your PC

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:22 AM

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ok i looked on cable mod and they say they are compatible with certain ones so probably replacing entirely

lofty pewter Dec 31, 2019, 6:32 AM

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cablemod is good. But I hear they are pricy compared to some other alternatives. I dont know any other alternatives tho, might be good to look into

terse sluice Dec 31, 2019, 6:35 AM

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ok thanks

primal remnant Dec 31, 2019, 7:27 AM

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i found a stupid case i bought in 2017 for an A8 build because i threw all my eggs in the FM2+ basket

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and it's really funny looking, 3 years back

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01717TE5G/

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:24 PM

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i have a question

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Go ahead

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:25 PM

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so people people say i since i hopfully will be getting approved in feb and getting money

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that i should hold back getting a video card

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Depends on the rest of your specs

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Hve a list of what you have now?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:26 PM

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i am doing a 100% rebuild

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQ4bp8

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Is that what you have now?

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Or what you want to get?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:26 PM

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want to get

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Still havent found a good case ooF

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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I would get a 2080 super instead

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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they are saying to hold off since the 3080 ti claim its coming out in march

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Why

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Do you need 30tb of storage

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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actully yes

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Well, that's up to you

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If you want the latest and greatest bleeding edge then yeah, wait

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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they have no prove of coming out in march

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Idk that build seems kinda overkill

blazing obsidian Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Wait til ces 2020

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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everywhere is saying june

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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What are you using it for

blazing obsidian Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Starts soon I believe

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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define soon

blazing obsidian Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Like

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Early January I think

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:29 PM

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No guarantees it will be released on time either.

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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i think it already been delayed

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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So, that decision is totally yours to wait or not

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What do you have now?

blazing obsidian Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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If theres no announcement about it at ces, prob not coming out in March

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Because you could get everything else and just wait on the GPU

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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even then its still a FTW3 2080 ti

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i mean i need a new one

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Honestly, the 2080TI is going to be great for a few years

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Especially at 1400p

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that's honestly more than you need already

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:31 PM

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even if i wanted a 3080 ti

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when it comes out

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i can sell the FTW3

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and put the money i get for a 3080

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:31 PM

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The 3080ti will be soooo expensive

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And the 2080ti prices will drop

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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they claim

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it will not be as high

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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As the 2080?

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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I wouldn't expect prices to drop too much

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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I know

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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GDDR6 prices are going to go up because of fab issues

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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esp high end 2080 tis

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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so it's a gamble

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:32 PM

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i mean the cheap 2080 tis yeah

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they will drop in price

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but not the FTW3 and other higher end gpus

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@candid moth the hhds are for cold storage

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of videos

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:34 PM

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But

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24 tb?

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Is this a workstation?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:34 PM

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yes

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Videos take up a lot of space

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:34 PM

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its both

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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I have 15 TB at home because my wife is a photog

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RAW files are large

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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work station / gaming / streaming pc

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Bekora yeah I saw

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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btw editing videos are even larger

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Yup

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Especially 4K

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those are huge

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Very true

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Bekora I read about that corsair case

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It seems kinda overpriced

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:36 PM

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i wish

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there was more full atx cases

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Why do you need full atx?

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Hdd storage?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yeah

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:37 PM

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U got a yt channel?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:37 PM

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at some point will put it in nas

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yeah i do have not posted in a year since i can't really record atm

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:38 PM

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OoF

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:39 PM

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i can't work and waiting on disability

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so thats why i have to wait on parts 😦

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:40 PM

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OoF

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Anyone know any good cases under 130?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:44 PM

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6 months waiting

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:44 PM

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That would be hard

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Ive wanted to build ome for 3 years sooo

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:44 PM

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no six months no income

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Why

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:45 PM

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you can't have a income while getting approved for disablity

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:45 PM

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What did you do before

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:46 PM

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i put things in boxes

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but you see

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i am mentally disablied

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Sorry about that

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And how are you affording this pc @mild elm?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:47 PM

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back pay

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😄

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Dang

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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all of my mental disorders are form ether brith or child abyse

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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You got a loooooot of that

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Birth?

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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autism

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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My bad

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:49 PM

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nothing to be bad hout

candid moth Dec 31, 2019, 7:49 PM

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At least you got an anime profile pic

mild elm Dec 31, 2019, 7:49 PM

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xD

proper pecan Dec 31, 2019, 10:37 PM

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are corsair psu good

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i heard they are terribly made and has a high failure rate

elfin trout Dec 31, 2019, 10:41 PM

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The newer models are pretty good @proper pecan

proper pecan Dec 31, 2019, 10:45 PM

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what about the cs series

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cx*

opal night Dec 31, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Stick with the RM or RMX

lofty pewter Jan 1, 2020, 12:55 AM

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@proper pecan how high end is the system?

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CX for lower/kinda mid end, TXM/RM/RMx for decently high end, etc

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Avoid CXM and VS

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I'm building a budget build with a mid atx case. any recommendations under $60?

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Lemme check

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RGB or no?

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@lime fog?

proper pecan Jan 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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@lime fog modular?

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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yes modular, rgb is okay. preferably witha fan

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Preinstalled?

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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yea, or a lower price case with an addon fan

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Hmm

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Is 75 ok?

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Because theres a really good one for that price

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3 preinstalled fans, a bit of rgb, and has room for most parts

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:34 AM

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okay, send me it, but preferably under 60

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Ill look for more but just look at this one

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:35 AM

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k

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:35 AM

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One sec

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N9JPSEU/ref=psdcmw_572238_t3_B075DMYVBV

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Im planning to use this myself

opal night Jan 1, 2020, 1:37 AM

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under 60

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-g-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352069?Item=N82E16811352069

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Oh forgit that existed

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:37 AM

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yea i was considering fractal design G

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its my first build but it is very budgeted

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Yeah

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Lemme look more

opal night Jan 1, 2020, 1:40 AM

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The Fractal is a good case although only has two fans

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Recommend at least one more but you have a fwe bucks to spare

candid moth Jan 1, 2020, 1:40 AM

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UsE tHe NZXT 510 rEeEeEe

opal night Jan 1, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I will slap you lol

lime fog Jan 1, 2020, 1:41 AM

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okay guys thx for the advice

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i'll probably use the fracture design, but who know what other optons are there

mild elm Jan 1, 2020, 4:45 AM

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hey any good cases besides 719 for drive bays?

glacial needle Jan 1, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i had an old cooler master that could fit like 8 hard drives or ssds

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but i cant find it. was super old

mild elm Jan 1, 2020, 6:01 PM

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its not common any more

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Anyone know a good really really small case that's not too expensive?

mild elm Jan 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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a itx case?

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Idk

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I'm not too familiar with PC stuff

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I just got mine bot too long ago

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Not*

mild elm Jan 1, 2020, 6:04 PM

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i mean how small are you willing to go

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and are you aware building in a small form factory is not easy

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at all

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@scenic lance in the smaller range, there is stuff like the Fractal Design Node 304

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which is fairly simple to build in

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Thankyou

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I'll take anything smaller than the big case I have now

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:24 PM

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what case do you have now?

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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It was the one that came with the low end cyber power o es

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Ones*

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-304/black/ <- this is the one i mentioned.

Fractal Design

Node 304 — Fractal Design

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Ok thanks

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:25 PM

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its a case i personally like, because it can easily serve as a mass storage server for most home users

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Thankyou this looks perfect

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:26 PM

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keep in mind, there are a bunch of things that you have to keep in mind when building a ITX system. But it is a start

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i would strongly recommend that you spec your planned system (if you have the know-how) on www.pcpartpicker.com

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and then share it with us here on the server

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because then someone can help look it over

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so that you can avoid the potential pitfalls :)

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Thanks

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:28 PM

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you are very welcome :)

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I still feel pretty confident because everything inside take up only like 1/3 of the whole case

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 6:30 PM

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can you link me to your current system?

scenic lance Jan 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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oh yeah sorry

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-2300x-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-570-1tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362425.p?skuId=6362425

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sorry it's a bestbuy link I couldn't find it on newegg

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I have a 580 now

tender root Jan 1, 2020, 9:07 PM

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based on the pictures, that looks like a m-atx board in there.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Which one is better ? Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL modular or seasonic focus gold gm-750 modular ?

lofty pewter Jan 2, 2020, 12:41 AM

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They're about the same iirc. Tho I wouldn't recommend 750w of that quality. If you're PC takes 750w then that's rather high end, might as well get a truly high end PSU rather than somewhat high end

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Well. Seems like the Seasonic is better. But again, I wouldn't go 750w of that quality and would get a better PSU if you need 750w.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Alright ty!

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 9:02 AM

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What about EVGA GQ 700 ?

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80+ gold

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Or even TX650M 80+ gold by Corsair

vocal talon Jan 2, 2020, 1:29 PM

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RM750x is solid

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not a lot of 700w psu’s that ik of, usually they’re 650 or 750 instead

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Honestly I just need a "OK" PSU that won’t burn / explode and destroy my whole PC after 3 years of use

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And 600w + would be great

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I’m planning to get a mid-tier gaming PC

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Things like Corsair TXM are good enough for their price

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I mean the golden rule is never to cheap out on your PSU

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Honestly I’m on a pretty cheap budget since I’m still a teenager and it’s difficult to save up for expensive hardware

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All I really need is something I could use without big problems for at least 3-4 years

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If that makes any sense

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Well the difference between a very cheap and a very good PSU can be $30

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:00 PM

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If I can afford it or not depends on the price of the cheap PSU then

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Well cheap PSUs are so likely to cause you more than its worth

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:00 PM

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They are likely to cause damage ?

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Likely to be faulty, cost a lot more electricity in the long run etc

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Look for "Be quiet" PSUs on PCPP, they have some good budget ones.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I know strictly nothing about PSUs except wattage, I just heard there are good brands like Corsair EVGA and be quiet

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Ive heard bad things about the EVGA GD but Ive never had one myself to verify.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:02 PM

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But I’m pretty sure not all PSUs from these brands are good either

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:02 PM

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EVGA does have a good RMA process though.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Yeah I’ll do some research on PCPP

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I’m not even sure I know what RMA means....

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Returns.

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Something like the be quiet! Pure power 10 is 80+ Silver which... beats 80+ bronze ultrabudget PSUs anyway. 600W is only $75

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Didnt realise the pure power 11 was only $5 more

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Unfortunately it’s B&H, shipping would make the price no longer affordable

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Amazon and Newegg would be the top for me

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📎 image0.png

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Here are some options

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Maybe the Pure Power 11

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Out of all of those, the silverstone is the only one you want to even consider

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Oh my

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Not even the be quiet one ?

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:12 PM

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LTT has the EVGA at Tier B+ and the BeQuiet at Tier B+, the rest are D or worse.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Bekora could you share the LTT list ? I’ve heard of it but never saw it myself.

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:15 PM

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 6.7 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @PSUGuru, @Ave with a model o and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 01-01-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off r...

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Thanks

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And this list is reliable right ?

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Maybe I could get a Corsair CX 2017 series

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80+ Bronze

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Should be good

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The list I mean

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I mean, if your parents pay your electricity for you, getting gold doesnt matter as much

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:21 PM

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They do pay electricity bills yeah

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I’ll stay on my PC for about 5h-6h a day average, and I wouldn’t want to bills to be tremendously expensive because of the PC

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By the way, thanks bekora

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Also, maybe I could cheap out on a 550W PSU instead of 600W+ since I’m getting a mid-tier build with 3600 and 1660S

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Yes, 550 is mroe than enough for that

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:27 PM

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But I’m afraid I’ll need to swap out the PSU for another one if I want to upgrade in the future

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:29 PM

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To what GPU?

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:30 PM

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2070, 2070S or new generation I don’t really know yet

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:30 PM

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550W is Ok for up to a 2070 super. 5700XT needs 650 watts.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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And I’ll also most likely add drives if 2.24 TB of storage isn’t enough

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Drives sip power, don't worry about those

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:32 PM

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And swap out the CPU for 4th gen when they release

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I don’t know if they affect wattage

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For now for the build with 3600 and 1660S PCPP tells the estimated wattage is 304W.

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Depends on the CPU. My 3700x pulls 200+ watts at full load @4.3 GHZ all cores. Maybe more, can't remember

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Oh

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Don’t think I’ll OC, 3.6 GHz is plenty for me

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:34 PM

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That's not OC'd

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4.4 ghz is max boost clock

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Yep that’s right

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Base clock is fine

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For me

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Uh, all Ryzen boosts

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It's just how they work

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Same with Intel's Turbo frequency

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Oh ok

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:35 PM

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My CPU at an idle is like, 600 mhz

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Things have changed, they don't just sit at the base clock all the time if they're set up properly

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I knew Ghz clock changed when you use your CPU and stuff like that, but I think I misunderstood the term "boost clock" I though that was the limit for OCing with the stock cooler

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I was mistaken lol

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Nope

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Factory clocks

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Now to OC you go above the boost clock or an All Core boost clock

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Ok i understand

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But is there a real noticeable difference of power consumption by the CPU when the CPUs clocks change ?

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Yes, when it goes from 600 mhz to full clocks

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But 550 is good for a 2070 super if that's your upgrade path

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I’ll just get CX550, hopefully the bills won’t be too expensive (Bronze)

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 3:09 PM

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The difference between gold and bronze is about $2 per year

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It's nothing really.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Lmao that’s fine then 😂

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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This article is old but still applies. The power savings are small in the us or anywhere.

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/7474/analyzing-power-use-80-plus-bronze-vs-platinum

Analyzing Power Use: 80 Plus Bronze vs. Platinum

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Really that’s not much

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80+ Bronze is just fine

inland kite Jan 2, 2020, 3:14 PM

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$0.125 per kWh? I wish I had electricty that close to being free.

plucky bough Jan 2, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Thanks for the useful help Bekora (and also Nomad)

lofty pewter Jan 2, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@opal night since when does 3600 and 5700XT need 650w? 90w CPU + 230w GPU + 70w system is 390w

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Since AMD says so

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Read up about it

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https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/radeon-rx-5700-series-quick-start-guide-en.pdf

lofty pewter Jan 2, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Look at reviews that do full power consumption. Measuring the 12v rail

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Sorry, 260w GPU
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx_5700-rx_5700_xt,6216-5.html

Tom's Hardware

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 Review: New Prices Keep N...

AMD's Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 deliver better performance than Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2060 and 2060 Super, but without real-time ray tracing support.

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AMD can't give proper wattage recommendations on just GPU alone. They don't know if you have some super power hungry CPU, lots of drives, and a bad PSU all in one.

candid moth Jan 2, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Anyone know if the Phanteks P400 non-a is good? Or even if the p400a is good?

stone karma Jan 2, 2020, 8:42 PM

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@candid moth here's a review.
https://youtu.be/ZfXQQZtD_SI

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

Phanteks P400A Digital Case Review: High Airflow Mesh & Panel Testing

The Phanteks P400A Digital RGB case is up for review today, getting thermal testing for temperatures with the white and black panels, the solid P400 panel, and more.
Sponsor: Get 10% off Squarespace purchases (https://geni.us/BqEpf)

Article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrev...

▶ Play video

candid moth Jan 2, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Thanks

fringe granite Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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hey guys, i bought a carbide 275R case from corsair that comes with 2 SP120 case fans

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how much difference would adding more case fans make

opal night Jan 2, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Need at least one more for the front

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2x front, 1x back

fringe granite Jan 3, 2020, 12:05 AM

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if i want to test it with 2 fans how should i arrange them

worldly dust Jan 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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both front I guess unless you have an aio rad going there

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Eh, one in and one out

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Although if the top is vented 2 in could work also

worldly dust Jan 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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or that yeah I would just get one more

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they arent too expensive

fringe granite Jan 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i probably will but id like to first test with just the included fans still

worldly dust Jan 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I think you will be good either way maybe go with @opal night 's suggestion and do one in bottom front and one out back top

fringe granite Jan 3, 2020, 12:17 AM

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ok

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Anyone have any good case fans? Preferably that come in packs?

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Dont care about rgb or anything

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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size?

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:09 AM

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120mm

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:09 AM

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kk

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Just get these and don't plug in the RGB

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https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Intelligent-Addressable-Motherboard-Adjustable/dp/B07HK7YRCD/ref=sr_1_9?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1578017381&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A5462062011&rnid=5462059011&s=pc&sr=1-9

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6 fans

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Thanks

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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yw

oblique osprey Jan 3, 2020, 2:12 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VPrmP6/corsair-spec-delta-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011166-ww

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Do you know if that has good airflow?

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Front intake is a bit limited

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I would have a 240 aio at the top though

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Still need an intake

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Top should be exhaust

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Air out need to be equal to or greater than the air in

oblique osprey Jan 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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The case is arriving tomorrow but it has 3 intake fans (one going to the Hard drive/PSU area) and 2 exhaust fans. One top one behind.

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I see your alt

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Move the 2 exhaust to intake then and use the AIO as exhaust

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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One sec

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https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/iCUE-220T-RGB-Airflow-Tempered-Glass-Mid-Tower-Smart-Case/p/CC-9011173-WW

iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — Black

The CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB Airflow is a compact mid-tower ATX smart case with a high airflow layout and three included SP120 RGB PRO fans for spectacular RGB lighting controlled out-of-the-box via CORSAIR iCUE software.

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Yeah, better airflow there

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front is open

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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What if i got this, used the front 3 as intake, aio at top as exhaust and bought another SL120 and put it on the back as exhaust?

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Its the same fan

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Probably be Ok with just the AIO for exhaust

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But the back one would help too

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Yeah

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Is the lower the cpu temp the better?

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yes, heat is the enemy, to a point

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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But at some point is there such thing as too much cooling?

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Yes, too fast air movement doesn't allow time to carry away the heat

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Too slow and it doesn't carry the heat away

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It's literl goldilocks

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Oof

opal night Jan 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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That's extreme though

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and honestly nitpicking

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Try and balance intake and exhaust

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that's all

stray pelican Jan 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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does anyone know of any good rgb cases with removeable front panel? I wanted to go with corsair because I like their rgb and how I can remove the front panel and have the dust filter there. I'm worried about my motherboards mystic light syncing interfering with the cases ICUE lighting though. I know some newer motherboards have the header for it but I don't think my tomahawk b450 max does.

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Icue 220T

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Or if budget doesnt matter the obsidian srries

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Series*

stray pelican Jan 3, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Those are compatible with mystic light on the tomahawk motherboard ?

candid moth Jan 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

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They use iCUE

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Its corsairs software for rgb

cunning walrus Jan 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Not sure if this is the right channel for this question, but is it safe to leave your pc in sleep mode or is it best just to turn it off when you’re not using it?

pure torrent Jan 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Sleep is fine. If it wakes from mouse or keyboard it may turn back on if either is bumped. The main difference is the pc will draw more power in sleep than if it is shut down

hushed yoke Jan 3, 2020, 7:49 PM

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if ur not gonna use it for awhile (like if youre going on vacation) i would shut it down and unplug

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then u dont have to worry about lightning

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but if youre gonna be back within a day or two sleep is fine

rigid hare Jan 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197007
Anyone know if this is a good case? Its the cheapest case I could find on newegg that has side panel, psu srhoud, looks to have decent ventilation, and comes with 3 fans included.

vocal talon Jan 3, 2020, 10:51 PM

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haven't seen it used before, but looks decent based on review but the build quality is what you expect for a cheaper price

rigid hare Jan 3, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I'm fine with cheap build quality lol

hollow spoke Jan 3, 2020, 11:11 PM

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never heard of that brand

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but for $2 more cooler master has almost the exact same thing

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https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb600l-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119329

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heres one from the same manufacturer thats even cheaper. still has a side panel and psu basement

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197006

rigid hare Jan 3, 2020, 11:56 PM

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@hollow spoke the one I linked has 3 fans included and is within $10 of those and the cooler master has a small vent on the side no mesh

hollow spoke Jan 3, 2020, 11:57 PM

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not sure what country youre in but the 2nd 1 i linked is $37.99 on sale rn and comes with a single led fan

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a split mesh kind of patern on the front

rigid hare Jan 3, 2020, 11:58 PM

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only one fan though

hollow spoke Jan 3, 2020, 11:58 PM

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fans are pretty cheap tho and the ones that come with a case usually suck lol

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i cant remember a single case ive ever bought and used the preinstalled fans. ive always bought something else haha

rigid hare Jan 4, 2020, 12:00 AM

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well the cheapest 3 pack of rgb fans on newegg is like $25 so I'd say $10 more for a better looking (imo) and 2 extra fans is a decent deal

hollow spoke Jan 4, 2020, 12:02 AM

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up to you bud. your original message didnt mention anything about fans just a tg side panel and psu basement lol but whatever you want to go with im sure it will do just fine

scenic lance Jan 4, 2020, 1:10 AM

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hey so I saw some stuff online saying that corsair psu's tend to not work well with amd gpu's. Is that true? Ik it's probably false, but I just want to make sure. Thanks.

hollow spoke Jan 4, 2020, 1:21 AM

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no clue and couldnt even point you to anything that would come close to answering that sry

lament reef Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i dont know about the gpu thing but some cx psu tend to make smoke i have had 2 friends have them burn out within a month and they both have build like 5 pcs they got me in to in and no other psu has done that so i would go with a thermaltake or a evga

lofty pewter Jan 4, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Old CX would burn out, cuz old CX is from 2012. New CX shouldn't do that. TT tends to make bad PSUs and EVGA tends to make not so great PSUs

hollow spoke Jan 4, 2020, 1:50 AM

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how reliable would something from be quite be?

long lynx Jan 4, 2020, 1:56 AM

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be quiet psus are generally good

snow canyon Jan 4, 2020, 2:02 AM

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What kind of desk would go good with a NZXT case? There's not really a channel for desks I think

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Lookin for L shaped desks.

lofty pewter Jan 4, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Depends. Usually Be Quiet is reliable. But also usually not that great quality compared to competitors at the same price

snow canyon Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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x.x

lament reef Jan 4, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@lofty pewter try #peripherals-and-displays

frosty zodiac Jan 5, 2020, 2:14 AM

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CoolerMaster Masterwatt

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Is that ok

lean tusk Jan 5, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Hi guys, I need help deciding which case to build my pc:

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Cooler master h500, phanteks p400a, meshify c, or pure base 500

hallow meteor Jan 5, 2020, 4:33 AM

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P400A of Meshify C

lean tusk Jan 5, 2020, 4:36 AM

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have you built in any of them?

hallow meteor Jan 5, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Helped with a build in a Meshify. Was easy to work with, good cable management, and decent airflow design. My vote for the 400A comes primarily from the GN reviews of it

lean tusk Jan 5, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I haven't been able to look at it close enough, so I'm just going in blind based on the video reviews and airflow numbers. how's the cable management in P400A

hallow meteor Jan 5, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Reviews say it's good

lean tusk Jan 5, 2020, 4:51 AM

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thanks MyName1sNobody. but where do i find p400a rgb in stock

hallow meteor Jan 5, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Newegg and Amazon are the first two places I'd look. Micro Center too, if you have one near you

scenic lance Jan 5, 2020, 7:42 AM

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is the corsair icue 480x good

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/N9GPzN

lofty pewter Jan 5, 2020, 10:07 AM

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@scenic lance that is a terrible price for that PC
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BGN64n

plucky bough Jan 5, 2020, 10:33 AM

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2070S, 3600. Much better, should definitely go with the second list @scenic lance

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@plucky creek what are your requirements?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:11 PM

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idk what to really look for ngl

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:11 PM

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you building a new machine or upgrading just the case?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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im building a new machine

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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you planning on showing off the build itself?

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as in, do you need a window in the case?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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i'd like to have a window in the case

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yes

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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is noise important?

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think long term on this

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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yes

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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because you will most likely have that case for a number of years

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so noise is important?

plucky creek Jan 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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yeah

tender root Jan 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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what size are you looking for?

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shoebox sized or tower sized?