#cases-psu-and-cooling
hushed yoke
elfin ginkgo
Ah yes, with the good cables too
placid roost
halcyon star
hey guys any cases similar to the lian li o11 xl
pine solstice
what's a good 750w - 850w modular psu?
burnt scarab
TT smart pro RGB
80+ Bronze so not the most efficient but that’s not such a big deal and it’s cheap
For other efficiency ratings:
Gold: TT toughpower grand RGB
Plat: EVGA supernova p2
Titanium: silver stone strider titanium
scenic lance
@placid roost i have that case, its nice
scarlet jungle
Hi Could anyone tell me if I could install the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX motherboard on to a RAIDMAX Monster II SE ATX-A08TB Black Plastic/Steel/Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
sacred latch
usually place the board in where the IO would go, place the standoffs where they match the holes so the board is suppoorted well
and just screw it in
scarlet jungle
In Fact I want ot know if you could place an ATX motherboard into an ATX mid tower
sacred latch
oh. yea its a ATX designed to fit a ATX. it will fit not problem
standard size no is a ATX board
it would fit into anything besides ITX, the small cases
scenic lance
Even some EATX can fit ATX cases, e.g. the M9A in the f31 suppressor and Antel P280
scarlet jungle
Great
sonic tundra
msi
warm verge
Best cases for airflow are:
Fractal Design Meshify C, Cooler Master H500, Cooler Master H500M.
scenic lance
Pick the case you like, if it has awful airflow we'll tell you, go from there
barren basin
Rosewill Prism S/Lite case has great airflor
sacred latch
view 71 as well
rain prawn
Does anyone have a h700i case?
sacred latch
I do not own but I hear good things
I have considered buying one. things tough as a boot
hybrid saffron
Is the h500/h500i a good case for a mid-tier pc build? Looking for a new case
cursive summit
I have H700. It's pretty nice looking and has really nice cable management built in.
hybrid saffron
Thanks for the input, I think imma go with the regular h500
vocal talon
unless you want the vertical gpu mount option, id go with the h500
hybrid saffron
Gotcha, thank you
scenic lance
i have the h500i. I like the rgb options and the NZXT is a good series no doubt
pseudo sky
enthoo luxe 2 when is it going to be available
warm verge
Cm H500M is epic airflow
urban barn
Hey peeps, first time asking a question on here and hope this is the right place. What's the consensus on the TT View 71? Made the god awful mistake of getting the v200 Tg for my first build...should've thrown down a but more $ for a better case lol.
hushed yoke
i know @scenic lance has one, he said he liked it
its a heavy case because of all the glass
my dad is planning on getting the view 71, great for viewing rgb components
scenic lance
What's the x299 build looking like?
urban barn
Yeah so I've read. I'm torn between it or the Corsair Obsidian 500d, but leaning more towards the View 71 because of price, space & tg. But this first case has kinda soured my view of TT right out the gate so I'm hesitant
hushed yoke
should be ordering the parts this weekend
thermaltake is a good brand
it might have just been that one case
urban barn
True
hushed yoke
@scenic lance im scared to install that processor lol
9940x
the cost of that thing is more than my whole computer
urban barn
😂 the Intel struggle.
hushed yoke
yep
scenic lance
i'm envious
urban barn
One day I'll have the $ to do a x299 build...one day...haha
cursive summit
Or X499 by the time you have the money?
urban barn
True haha
fleet brook
Hi on my parts list on pcpartpicker it says under notes that it doesn't have a 12v connector that I would need if I had a very demanding GPU for power or was doing big overclocked and I'm not overclocking but will the 5700 xt pulse sapphire need it? Here is the list https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pxbpjy
hasty delta
You don't need the extra 4 pin for that cpu
as long as it has enough pcie connectors for the gpu you should be fine
vale nacelle
Anyone got any news on the Enthoo Phanteks Luxe 2 for the US? Its finally listed on their website but is listed under Sold out, and Amazon had it listed as releasing on the first, but a day before, disabled preorders and changed it to unavailable. The only ones Ive really found are on the Newegg Canada account on Ebay, and while the Chassis is located IN the US, They do not ship to the US. Any Ideas?
grand ether
gimme
hushed yoke
:0
cursive summit
BUY NOW
serene hawk
Has anyone built a pc using Corsairs 220t? I want to use their h100 AIO and mount it on the top but I keep seeing how clearance is an issue.
grim copper
I'm buying a 220t
but it's so new there's not much info
maybe research if that aio would fit in a Meshify C because the 220t is almost identical.
serene hawk
@grim copper After digging a little more, the H100 should fit just fine on top as long as the RAM sticks aren't very tall.
exotic yacht
Hi, I want to build in an NZXT H500i with a gigabyte x570 aorus elite and noctua Nh-d15, does anyone know if these will fit?
scenic lance
I just purchased a new HP 590-p0044-DT PC. This comes in a small form factor case. The OEM PSU is only 180 watts, & I would like to add a 2nd H.D.D. & possibly a lower end graphics card. Do they make an upgrade, maybe up to 300watts? It doesn't look like a full size PSU will fit the mounting holes?
viscid galleon
What would be the best ATX case ~$60?
pure torrent
Really depends on what features you are looking for
halcyon star
Anyone use the inwin sirius loop fans
spark ether
Hey guys not sure if anyone knows how to do this but I have a matrexx 55 case and I'm trying to wire the power button to the asus crosshair vii hero motherboard
open quartz
@grim copper @serene hawk I have a 220t and ill say that i have a h100i mounted on the front and just by looking cause i have some fans up top as well, its not gonna fit up top depending on your mb/ram. Also these are the compatible liquid coolers corsair has listed: H55, H60, H75, H80i, H90, H100i, H105, H110i, H115i, H150i
@spark ether not sure if you got it already by now, but usually in the manual of your motherboard itll show you where to plug in all the case plugs and where they go
spark ether
Yee my friend just wired up the case connectors wrong, thanks for the help tho
He didn't use the q connector either
vale wolf
has anyone gotten the premium PSU cables from corsair?
hollow helm
looking at getting this case next year https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-o11-dynamic-e-atx-full-tower-case/p/2AM-000Z-00048
looks pretty nice
barren basin
It looks ok
ripe depot
Hello, I just needed some help in confirming a battery replacement. My colleague moved to the UK from the USA and recently her laptop (HP ENVY Notebook - m7-n101dx
M1W07UA) has given up the ghost, and more that anything it is sentimental to her. So far none of the usual retailers I use stock this battery as it is an overseas unit. So what I'd like to know is if this would be the battery replacement (see below link) I am looking for, as the exact battery I wanted I couldn't get shipped here? As I have looked at so many battery options now that I am starting to get a bit bozzeyed with it all! And HP customer support is as useful as a chocolate tea pot and the agent on Neweggs website chat said to come here. So any help would be appreciated!
vale wolf
Shipping batteries is very restricted on planes, most carriers will refuse to do so due to legal reasons
If it is allowed to ship, it will almost definitely go on a boat, and take ~45+ days to get to the US
I would highly advise trying to find a US equivalent if at all possible before trying to order a battery from overseas
trail lion
steady ember
Anybody have suggestions for a white PC case?
steady ember
How’s the temperature on that case? I was gonna pick NZXT H500 but I was told that it runs hot.
barren basin
The temps in my case are actually very good
the 2 exhaust area's are the rear and the right side
with my RX 570 that i used to get around 71c with my old case when i changed to this one i started getting between 50c to 60c (depending on the game)
@steady ember if you look here you can also see what i mean for the right side panel https://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/item/11/147/11-147-298/b5_050619.jpg
The only thing different is the PSU is mounted on the top but the PSU and wires are also hidden
steady ember
This is what I got
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CygPx6
barren basin
@steady ember if you mean for a AIO it can fit one
steady ember
This is my first PC lol Idk what that means. My friend just keeps telling me to get a water cooler.
barren basin
which is water/liquid cooling
It is just that is an all in one so no custom water loop and also if it is your first PC you wouldn't do a custom water loop
steady ember
Oh ok, I gotcha. Can I get your opinion on my build?
barren basin
Your build is fine right now but the motherboard would need a bios update
@steady ember does your friend use a AMD system?
steady ember
Is fine? Bad? Lol and I think Intel
barren basin
Fine is a good thing and to be honest i don't know if the board has flashback on it which that is for updating the bios without using a CPU
steady ember
Oh ok and do a lot have flashback?
barren basin
Certain boards have it i just forgot which one's
@steady ember looks like that board is not able to do the flashback but good thing is when you get that board and want to update the bios you can contact AMD which they will mail to you an Athlon 200GE to update the bios but you have to mail it back after you're done
steady ember
Oh nice, I mean I can just get one with flashback lol
barren basin
Yes but one with flashback does tend to cost more and you would lose your white theme
@steady ember Let me ask you what are you planning on doing with your system?
Just asking cause if you are just gaming you can go with this build instead https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZGj4n
steady ember
I mean I’m gonna stream on it while I play Xbox but I’d also maybe stream while playing on it.
barren basin
2600X you can still stream with it
clever cloud
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hXdFf9 this is the build I have started for my son who will only be gaming! Anything you think I should swap around?
$750 overall isn’t terrible
barren basin
What si your son going to be playing?
clever cloud
Modern warfare, fortnite, and Minecraft mainly! And I think he plays something called roblox!
barren basin
If you're ok with open box items this would be better in a way https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-580-rx-580-armor-4g-ocv1/p/N82E16814137412R
open box as well doesn't mean it was used
clever cloud
I think I seen that card, grabbed the 8gb in case I ever turned it into a streaming pc and wanted full use of the gpu forcencoding
barren basin
Well the 4gb 580 would still be better than the 8gb 570
if i remember it is like a 8% difference in performance or something like that
steady ember
Isn’t the 3600 better than the 2600X
vocal talon
yes
@clever cloud also I would not spend $100+ on a 2600 cooler, use the stock one and save a little more and get a rx 5700
barren basin
@steady ember 3600 is better than the 2600X but you can for one save some money and have something compatible with everything else you want or spend a little more money for a board you might not like
@vocal talon It is for his kid and going for a 5700 would be a little overkill for the games he has mentioned as well
vocal talon
ic
well you could save some money and get a cheaper cooler, ryzen doesn’t oc a bunch and the stock one works fine
barren basin
Well if he plans on overclocking as well
vocal talon
But ryzen doesn’t really have much overclock headroom
and if you do want a high end cooler, go with an air one like the d15 or drp4 for cheaper
barren basin
With the AIO he has there it can actually hit 4.6GHz
4.6GHz borderline safe but safety mode would be like 4.3GHz
grim copper
2600x + 5700xt is a good combo right now
barren basin
@grim copper it is but for his kid if he is planning on spending 750$ that would be out of his budget plus a 5700 XT is overkill for Fortnite
grim copper
oh lol yeah
Right now I'm 2600x and 1660, should've gone for the 5700xt but it was released a few days after i already bought the 1660
barren basin
I have right now a 2600 with a 570 but i am upgrading to the 1660 because the 5700/XT in Canada is pricey and since i game at 1080p i feel it wouldn't be used to its full potential
grim copper
If you can go for a 1660ti
the 1660 honestly isn't enough of an upgrade
I had a 1060 3gb before this and it's barely an improvement
barren basin
Well i am using a 4gb 570 so it would be an improvement
grim copper
but that's what I'm saying
It's not enough of an improvement to be worth it IMO
save up a bit more and get a 1660ti
I have regrets buying the 1660
not enough power
barren basin
For what i mainly play it would be enough power
grim copper
mk
steady ember
@barren basin I do like saving money lol plus I’m buying like everything for a PC setup. Just was told 2600X wasn’t powerful
steady ember
No, I think it was someone in here
barren basin
For gaming and streaming now the 2600X is pretty powerful for what it is worth and yes the 3600 is more powerful but it is also newer CPU as well and for most games out there now and in the future i doubt they would go higher than the 2600 non X version
grim copper
2600x is PLENTY
barren basin
Borderlands 3 is the only game right now that i see that recommends a 2600 non X
steady ember
So this is what I got
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ThqhPn
barren basin
That would work out fine
steady ember
RGB overkill or nah lol
barren basin
overkill would be buying LED strips and all
sacred latch
when is this releasing cougar T.T
sacred latch
Does anyone have any experience in building in a Coolermaster H500M style case and mounting a 240/280 AIO in thhe top instead of the front?
worried about airflow restrictions on the Radiator
or If I mounted a Rad in the front, how much Heat soak bleeds to the graphics card
steady ember
Anybody know what the “+2 AF-14 Front” means on the Meshify C?
scenic lance
Probably that they added two Noctua AF-14's, assuming that's a fan model number.
steady ember
Oh ok, thanks!
hearty patrol
@sacred latch I have a 360 on the top of my h500m so I might be of some assistance, my radiator is an ek360 slim mounted on the interior of the case, I am using fractal design prisma a12s for my fans, they are mounted on the outside if you want to call it that (outside of the case but still inside cause of the removable top panel), I also have the exact same setup on the front. Now everything for me is liquid cooled so I cant use exact temp differences, but stereo typically for aios the temperature difference is between a 1-3C increase in gpu temps with the radiator at the front, and a 1-2C increase in cpu temps at the top. My personal results are as follows tho
- the air coming in from the front radiator is noticeably higher then ambient temperature but not a massive increase
- the airflow coming from the top of the case is slower and less air then going into the front of the case resulting in a passive airflow coming from the back opening
- Liquid temperature between tubes coming from the top radiator and front radiator have no noticeable difference despite what is stated from above.
- Should be noted my psu shroud is removed which can be assisting airflow for the front radiator, I have two nvme drives so no sata connections to worry about airflow restrictions, but i do have all 4 slots of ram used along with tubing interfering with potential airflow to and from the top radiator
- Another note, because i have a slower fan curve I have not tested temperatures with fans at max rpm, rather around 75%, Cpu sat in the mid to high 70s (3700x) and the gpu in the high 60s low 70s (radeon VII), with software detection my gpu has drawn 370 watts under max load and i dont remember the cpu but it is overclocked to 4.2 ghz at 1.325V
But to simplify my overload of information if you use the same setup as me for the fans (top) your temps will be fine, if you have both the fans and the radiator on the interior (placing the radiator closer to the front rather then closer to the back, and your ram allowing clearance) you will most likely have very little if any in temperature difference if you were to do the radiator at the front instead, so I personally would recommend the top
Just for reference about how I'm describing everything
sacred latch
@hearty patrol My savior. Thanks dude thats exactly the kind of info I wanted. Top mounting the AIO is alot cleaner and gives alot more room so thats massively helpful 😄 Looks good too, nice build
hearty patrol
Thank you, and I'm glad I was able to help out, if be it a bit late
sacred latch
I still have a few months till I can buy everything So just in time 😄
sacred latch
Thank you. Also dig the purple
hearty patrol
I struggled so much to choose a color, glad more people then just myself like it lol
sacred latch
purple always makes me think of neon. So yes good
sacred latch
aaaay cougar finally released their new case
https://www.newegg.com/black-cougar-panzer-max-g-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811553053
vale wolf
I'll be honest with you, I hate the looks of that case
especially for $160? That doesn't look like a good deal
cursive summit
Ugly
plucky needle
would be looking good without 5inch bay cut outs and that ugly top handles\rails
hearty patrol
I mean it isnt the greatest looking case, but it gives a lot of features
Full mesh front panel, 2, 5 inch bays that can be removed and used as a fan spot, sure you have to pick between an optical drive or 360 rad, but at least the option is there, looks like rubber grommets are not covered when using an eatx motherboard, you can still use hard drives if you have a thicker radiator at front, handles are ugly af but at least their usable, would I buy it no, but at the same time I think it's a pretty decent case
barren basin
There are people that still like to have a DVD/Blu-Ray drive in their PC
sacred latch
It can fit a 360 on the top as well no problem. tons of drive space on the back cover. case is massive. lots of room for components
and my current build still has a dvd drive just incase
radiant pivot
Out of curiosity, is there any sort lf external PSU I can set up for a desktop build? It's a weird question, but I'm doing a build where I'm tight on space and even an SFX PSU is a bit large.
and if they're options, how jank are they?
vale wolf
I don't see why you couldn't use a normal psu outside your case, if you got cables that are long enough
radiant pivot
I figured, but are there any retail options? because I don't think I can just take any ol laptop PSU brick and jurry-rig it.
scenic lance
Definitely can't use a laptop PSU - there are some small form factor motherboards that work off 12 V or more often 19V
native flint
Anyone know a case that works well with noctua coolers
I think itd be cool having a steampunkish build
iron saffron
3600x/ b450 tomahawk/ xpg m.2 / ballostix 16 gb ram/ 2060 super msi
What psu and case should i get
Cant decide
vocal talon
Case doesn’t really matter as long as it has has decent airflow, and I’d go for a 650-750w full modular 80+ gold psu
and I’d switch the 2060S to a nonblower 5700xt
vocal talon
u would get a lot of dust, but all open air ones do
main question is what do u think about it, it’s your case not mine
scenic lance
Im jus asking. I like it tho
scenic lance
Was gonna get that case and go with watercooling
toxic shale
So now it looks like this
I'm waiting for coolant in the mail the case is really heavy. But u can take the 3mm glass panels off and it's super light
scenic lance
How do u feel about working with hard pipe
toxic shale
Buy extra
scenic lance
Did u find it easy or semi hard
toxic shale
It's a little hard to measure at first cuz the tubing stretches as it bends
So it's easier to heat it. Then line it up while it cools
It was alot of fun to do
And no it was to hard at all
scenic lance
And when u started. Did u have it all planned out. Or u just planned as u went
toxic shale
I kinda had a little idea in my head. But just got the parts and saw where I wanted to put like the radiator and stuff then went from there
Because I had 3 options on placement of it so I played around with it all before I started
I bought a kit from thermaltake for like 400 bucks and wish I would have just dropped the extra hundred on the best one
scenic lance
Thats was your first time messing with watercooling?
toxic shale
Each set if 3 fans has a little controller and the waterblock has 1 so I have 4 little controllers I had to hide in the case kinda a pain so it's worth getting the 500 kit alone cuz of that. Or getting a commander pro thsts my next upgrade
And yes it was my first wc build
I have 9 fans in there on top of the water cooler my radiator has a push pull setup
scenic lance
A little bit overkill just for the cpu
toxic shale
Here's the backside
I'm gunna cook the GPU as well
I have to do it in steps though cuz I'm not rich lol and its spendy
scenic lance
Lol
toxic shale
So I buy parts when i can then upgrade from there
scenic lance
I wanna do mine all in 1 go. So im just saving up now
scenic lance
What kind do u have?
toxic shale
Also I had a 1080 at the time and knew I was gunna upgrade to a 2080 so I didnt bother buying the waterblock and what not till I had the gpu
What graphics card?
scenic lance
Ya
scenic lance
Lol
scenic lance
Is it overclocked or regular
scenic lance
What kind of motherboard and cpu?
toxic shale
Just buy some tubing and the pending kit. And a heat gun and practice if u wanna go that route. Its alot of fun though
CPU is a i7 8700k and mobo is a asus z390-e
I'm thinking about getting an i9. But dont really see the point for gaming
Not like many games even use all those cores
scenic lance
You’ll eventually have to upgrade it
toxic shale
When I had a 1080 all that was running of a 750 w psu
scenic lance
No rush tho
toxic shale
Lol I was worried about it frying out so I got a 1000w
And it wasnt modular so it had those ugly ketchup and mustard cables
scenic lance
Lol
toxic shale
Definitely go with a 1000w or bigger if ur gunna run a pump 2080 and all the other stuff
toxic shale
I really like my d5 from thermaltake it's a little bigger then I thought I was gunna be. But it runs great and its silent. Also make sure u turn ur pump down it comes at 5. And u only need it at like 1-2 so the water has time to cool in the radiator
And the pastel coolant is cool and all but it fades really fast ull start noticing it fade after like a week
scenic lance
Alright
toxic shale
So go with a clear or clear colored coolant
Right now I have distilled water in there. While I wait for more coolant
scenic lance
Do u prefer the pump with reservoir or separated
toxic shale
Mines together
Thsts up to u though
Also
Kits from thermaltake dont come with the stuff to make a drain valve
So u need some extra tubing and fittings also like a y fitting or t fitting and a valve just fyi
radiant pivot
UUUUUGH
I am never doing a SFF PC ever again after this.
So as a summary, I'm doing a sleeper PC in a PS2 case and I am so tight on space that I'm getting a headache about finding the right power supply for a R5 2600X and a RTX 2060
I found one option, but it may be short in wattage slightly and I'm not sure how much it'll effect everything
It's called a HDPLEX Hifi DC-ATX. I'd post a link, but I don't want to incite the wraith of the mods because you may or may not be able to get it off of Newegg.
radiant pivot
it's 400W but is there a similar option with 50 more watts?
drowsy igloo
Is it a super or a vanilla?
If it's a super that gives you like 180 watts left over? You might be able to get away with that... Obviously there's a risk there.
radiant pivot
it's just a normal 2060. I wouldn't want to put my money on a super.
drowsy igloo
That gets you an extra 9 watts then.
radiant pivot
oh dear
wait, so I guess I'm a touch confused on what you said. So is a 2060 super more power efficient, or is there something off with your explanation?
drowsy igloo
A reference 2060 uses about 166 watts, a reference 2060 super uses about 175.
radiant pivot
ah ok
drowsy igloo
But the 2060 super is more power efficient
Anand put the performance of a 2060 super at 90%+ of a 2070 vanilla.
radiant pivot
Alright, I think I get it now.
grand ether
is power actually a concern for people
drowsy igloo
It is for this guy, he's trying to run on a 450 watt PSU.
radiant pivot
Yeah, Theo. I've gotten myself in a PC building mess
Sleeper PS2 is a bad idea
don't do it
it's evil
grand ether
oof
drowsy igloo
So he's wondering if he can run a 2600x and a 2060 vanilla on a 450 watt PSU and... maybe?
radiant pivot
The Newegg calculator said it was possible. And even the BeQuiet one yielded a similar result.
drowsy igloo
I'd say go for it.
Just, like, get it in fast.
So if you need to return it
You're not past the return date. 😄
drowsy igloo
Ha ha that's fair.
drowsy igloo
Ha ha good luck, let us know how it turns out.
radiant pivot
I will
drowsy igloo
Id say don't put five hard drives in with that power ceiling but it sounds like you've got that covered.
drowsy igloo
Heck yeah, if you've got the cash you could go M.2 and save a boatload.
radiant pivot
I could.
I got a good bargain on my friend's 2600X since he upgraded his CPU
80US so there's that.
drowsy igloo
Nice. That's a good chip too.
radiant pivot
yeah, I got one in my main system atm.
drowsy igloo
And probably a micro board?
radiant pivot
Mini-ITX. So yeah.
drowsy igloo
They've gotten so much more viable than they were in the old days.
radiant pivot
Yeah. I'm finding them for good prices on -REDACTED-
drowsy igloo
Ha ha
radiant pivot
I must not anger the Newegg overlords
marble girder
They'll have you exterminated
radiant pivot
yes
I will be stuck in computer hell
which is buying a GPU during the Cryptomining craze
for eternity
radiant pivot
ᴼʰ ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵐʸ ᵇᵃᵈ
ANYWAYS
I nearly got everything figured out
I'm still figuring out how cooling is gonna work overall.
drowsy igloo
Open loop!
radiant pivot
I don't got the money bro
drowsy igloo
Haha
radiant pivot
but I am doing a liquid on my CPU
drowsy igloo
Makes sense
radiant pivot
I found a 92mm radiator loop that looks good.
The company that made it also does the liquid cooling for Dell's Alienware desktops, so at least it isn't jank
and Bitwit used it to cool a Ryzen 9, which it worked so I don't it'll be terrible with a 2600X
and then I'll pair it with a noctua fan.
drowsy igloo
Yeah Ryzens run cool@you should be fine
radiant pivot
I hope so. GPU is also a pain because I'll more than likely have to rip it apart so it'll fit
because the smallest RTX 2060s I could find are still like 6.8-7 inches
which is a pain because that just means I have to jank things
and I am bad at making jank things work for me.
vocal talon
@radiant pivot oh itx builds? i could help u with stuff
radiant pivot
@vocal talon oh, you have any recommendations on compact power supplys? I'm looking at 450W minimum.
and I wish I could use SFX, but it's a bit large for what I'm trying to do.
vocal talon
like a flex psu?
radiant pivot
I haven't heard of a Flex PSU. Sounds like it could be what I'm looking for though. Care to explain?
oh wait nvm I saw a few of these while I was trying to look for a PSU to fit.
jade sail
any good cases was thinking full sized since my gpu 2080ti is getting very hot(90+c) in 4k in my current case adjusted all fans with high pressure fans ,let me know what are some good cases
scenic lance
Open Benchtable BC-1
scenic lance
yes, test bench
dusky fern
can someone help me pick a psu im so confused on how much i actually need
mint escarp
@dusky fern put all your parts into pcpartpicker.com it will tell you the wattage
obsidian garden
yeah
but then take that wattage you get from pcpartpicker, and if you ever want to upgrade down the line, get a psu that is at least 100 above what your parts are currently
just my advice
ruby sapphire
or just get a 750W 80+ gold and oure prolly good for like a long time xd
obsidian garden
ye
as long as you have an 80+ bronze certified or higher, your system should last a good while
dusky fern
I got a EVGA super nova 5 650 watt
my estimated wattage was like 387 or somthing like that
scenic lance
what cpu/gpu?
dusky fern
ryzen 2600x and 1060
i will be getting a 2070 pretty soon tho
or just ganna wait for the next series
scenic lance
650w is fine. Make and model of PSU is more important imo
scenic lance
A lot of keyboard warriors are making a big fuss about the supernova G5's active clamp circuit design - but that alone isn't enough info. Still waiting on a teardown freview.
Kinda like looking at an Asus z390 Hero and saying "ew 4 phases, that's trash tier"
dusky fern
what is the active clamp ?
scenic lance
Basically it's an older PSU design topology that has some undesirable characteristics. I wouldn't worry about it. It's one part in the many that make a machine.
dusky fern
true
scenic lance
except the 4 phase z390 asus made was all around trash
again, the rated amperage doesn't matter at all unless compared to another vrm suffering from overheating
Pardon if I've asked already - might have forgot - what would be your pics for asus z390 - say, $150, 250, 500?
Rather, not just asus, any brand
also, the g5 supposedly has full protections but i wouldnt recommend it until a propper review is done as it isnt unlikely knowing evga to think it will be missing ocp on the 12v (like almost all of their psus)
So - I used to be in the "aorus elite , pro, ultra, master z390 wipes the floor with all but top end ROG z390 " camp of belief
But lately - I've re-considered such a recomendation for users who aren't as interested in pure VRM / OC preformance as I, or others have been.
again, i dont follow intel mobos as close and would suggest asking hat for a good recommendation on that but i did look into the asus z390 as i thought it impossible that they would release a 4 phase and claim "doublers add too much time to transient response" but nope, their marketing team took that approach to justify a bad design and they they used exaggerated micro graphs to exaggerate the almost non existent transient improvement
TBH - the power elivery isn't that far apart , not by miles - but what bugs me is how Asus blatantly lied in marketing
again, the amperage the vrm is rated for and can supply does not matter unless you have a vrm that is throttling or getting damaged by heat
or one running at 120c
TBh I'm the opposite - I've been intel since 2007 core 2 - just picked up a 3700x, 3900x x570 master
How often does a non chiller / XOC VRM (that is still warm somehow) throttle from overheat?
really vrms overheating isnt an issue
this is why i point out that rated amperage isnt an issue
especially on am4
if you are putting parts under ln2 chances are the ambient near the vrm will pre stupid cold so even that isnt a real reason for it to overhear (plus if you have half a brain you will have high speed fans blowing over the board to move heat and avoid liquid condensing on it)
Ah - what's max package power for safe temps on your 2700x? unfamiliar myself
temps and power dont directly relate unless you are using the same cooler
in my case i cant really get much over 30c on it as it is connected to a loop with a copper 200x400x60mm radiator and a 400mm reservoir and a d5 pump running at 5000rpm all alone until i get my 3950x and hook the vii up to the same loop
scenic lance
I agree that many variables starting with the cooler model, but touching on moutning technique, paste choice and effeciveness of application, ambient - all kinds of suff will skew the data -but sounds like we'v eboth been around enough hardware to still get a rough idea while ballparking the impact said recognizable bias could have.
I'll be interested to see that custom dual chamber LN2 pot for your 3950x.
autumn portal
Looking for a case that would support 2 msi 2080ti gaming x trio cards.
hoary tiger
So that card is 12.00" / 304.80 mm in length. So do you have a brand you like?
We can start there
Also do you have a budget?
I know you would not want it like that, but show it would fit
hasty delta
where is the psu in that case
hushed yoke
the best kind lol
hoary tiger
hushed yoke
oh
hasty delta
must be under that shroud in the front
ruby sapphire
Corsair icue 465x /phanteks enthoo pro m/ fractal meshify s2
any thoughts?
hoary tiger
Yeah has to be
IMO I like the phanteks enthoo pro m or fractal meshify s2
If you are looking between the 3
scenic lance
For fit checks, go to pcpartpicker and search for completed builds with x and y /z parts.
You probably only need to check 2 parts at a time - narrowing down further will reduce the number of search results.
pine solstice
@scenic lance can you plug two 4pin atx into a 4+4 eps
scenic lance
Unsure about that terminology- can you give additional info?
Rather - what is 4 pin atx
By 4+4 EPS , ya, that's common vernacular
pine solstice
i have two seperate 4 pin extensions, could i plug one into the 4+4
scenic lance
Like, plug both in?
pine solstice
just one
from what I understand 4+4eps is just two 4pin atx
so could i plus a 4pin atx into half of the 4+4
scenic lance
Ya - I think you can - I was just confused about the terminology
Pics or links to the said products will help remove all doubt
pine solstice
ok cause my mobo has an extra 4pin atx for cpu, but my psu has a 4+4eps. I know you can use half the 4+4 but was wondering if i could use cable extension for that half
scenic lance
@hoary tigerat that price I suggest getting a coolermaster h500
hoary tiger
what?
barren basin
His money he can get what ever case he wants
hoary tiger
I gave up posting on this subject. The guy/girl that asked it vanished.
barren basin
Be Quiet has some beautiful cases just i can't afford them lol
hoary tiger
I am looking at the TT A500 TG now
Since I currently only have 1 custom loop till I get the WB for both my cards and put in the TT Watercooled RAM
vocal talon
Case choices are 99% based on aesthetics
autumn portal
@hoary tiger sorry for delayed response, got caught up. no budget or brand preference. just want a good quality case
hoary tiger
I would look at Thermaltake or Cooler Master.
vocal talon
or corsair
hoary tiger
I use both brands and both have plenty of cases that will do all you need.
vocal talon
look how sexy this is https://www.corsair.com/us/en/obsidian-500d-case
scenic lance
@vocal talon the goal is to get good airflow and be cheap, not the opposite
scenic lance
OpenBenchtable 🙂
vocal talon
but DuSt BuIlDuP
scenic lance
Air compressor
flat eagle
120psi
barren basin
Just slap that motherboard on a piece of ply wood and hang it on your wall problem solved 😛
and there is a build video of someone doing that
hoary tiger
its like the TT what is it P5? its the PL5
scenic lance
@scenic lance which psu was it again?
ssr 650 TD
I'll ping you when I end up tearingit apart
@scenic lance if it is the normal prime it lacks ocp on the 12v rail which may have been a cause for issues
but it has otp so i doubt a cap overheated and popped even if a fan failed
Well now I'm curious, guess I'll open it up haha
also tht 5vsb ocp is not configured correctly
on both prime and prime ultra
Looking at aris's review , yep, OPP 142% - it should be pretty visible carnage on the primary side unless it's jus the thermistor problem I suspect
granite tiger
I am looking for a computer case that fits this bundle that allows a CD/DVD drive in the front (https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3893616&Description=desktop computer kit)
scenic lance
@granite tiger that bundle seems like a bad deal
vocal talon
gotta get the savings
Combined Total: $1,149.93
Combo Discounts: - $18.00
Combo Price: $1,131.93
mint escarp
And then 40 bucks for shipping and tax 🇫
ruby sapphire
yeah my thoughts exactly xd im considering it over fractal C to save about 40$ usd lol
barren basin
Well you have 7 days left until it is 73$ again
scenic lance
@vocal talon the issue is that each individual part is really poorly priced so a $18 saving doesnt do much
digital plaza
Are psus more expensive because of the trade war?
vocal talon
Yeah
deep frost
@PopCrn#6102 I agree
hushed yoke
hasty delta
you didn't ban pedro did you
barren basin
pedro?
hasty delta
the guy that runs pcmr
hasty delta
nah, been dealing with a sick child off an on most of the night
scenic lance
But nah, Pedro's id is 77710020757688320
long lynx
What do you guys think about the H510i
hoary tiger
@long lynx I have not used that case myself, however the brand is a good brand so I would imagine it would be a solid case to use.
Does look a little closed off for air flow though IMO.
calm sparrow
i want the Antec Torque White case
looks awesome, but price makes my wallet walk toward a lava pit
full maple
Hi, I found this case that I really like, how good is it? https://www.amazon.it/Aerocool-P7-C1-White-Glass-Middle/dp/B06XXD27F2/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=Aerocool+P7-C1+Glass+Edition&qid=1570867894&s=pc&sr=1-4
sterile talon
I would tell you if i could read Spanish
vale nacelle
just change the .it to .com lol
north cedar
Have any of you heard of or used thermaltake computer cases before?
north cedar
core p3
hushed yoke
ooooo
north cedar
I wanna make a open air cooled uatx gaming pc
mint escarp
It's a lower rank in the 80+ rankings, they work just fine but if your doing a high end system you should probably get a higher ranked 80+
timid cedar
define high end
mint escarp
What do you have in your system?
timid cedar
i7-7700 and rtx 2060
mint escarp
That's considered higher end I'm pretty sure
ruby sapphire
get 80+ gold ^^
mint escarp
Ye
barren basin
Bronzes are still fine and if you look in most prebuilt systems they use 80+ certified only which is even lower
Pretty much the higher the grade as well the longer it would last for in the end
hushed yoke
for that pc tat he listed id go 80+ gold anyways, but yeah bronze is okay for budget
barren basin
i7 7700 isn't really high end anymore though since you have i5's and Ryzen 5's that out class it
It was high end at the time of its release but now not so much anymore
scenic lance
Is a i7-9900k a "best of both worlds"
timid cedar
@barren basin so should I go gold or bronze?
scenic lance
No
hushed yoke
i7 9900k isnt a thing
barren basin
i7's is a 9700K
barren basin
that says 9700K
scenic lance
Yep typo my bad
hushed yoke
i wouldnt get a 9700k, for the price its terrible
scenic lance
Nvm I'm sorry rip
scenic lance
Anyway I should go to #cpus-mobo-and-memory
barren basin
Depends on what he is doing as well
if it is just straight up gaming you could go with the 3600
scenic lance
Davinci resolve work
hushed yoke
aaaa i forgot what davinci resolve is
scenic lance
Vidoe Editing software for a less detailed explanation
hushed yoke
o
timid cedar
I think im gonna go with the bronze
hushed yoke
then 3700x should be great
timid cedar
i was going for a 650w and my setup doesnt use that
barren basin
650w is good
hushed yoke
what specs?
timid cedar
i7-7700 and rtx 2060
hushed yoke
uhhh that sounds like it would need a 650w
hushed yoke
i would get 650w anyways, its good to have headroom
barren basin
they would recommend to you 500w but you usually want to go a little higher
timid cedar
yah
hushed yoke
i have a i7 8700 and a gtx 1070, so far the rm650x has been working great
barren basin
brb in like an hour
hushed yoke
im also powering a hard drive and an AIO
timid cedar
hmmm
hmmmmmmmmmm
so many choices
dont psus go on sale around the holidays usually?
scenic lance
Cyber Monday 
scenic lance
hollow helm
not everything
scenic lance
Just most things lol
hollow helm
guarantee you the new video cards and cpus will be excluded
hushed yoke
well i said everything as in every category
cases, psu, gpus, cpus, etc
not any specific one
scenic lance
For a z390 tuff board with a 2080super is a 650w too little?
timid cedar
dont cheap out on power but I also have this thing called a budget
hollow helm
i use a 750 g3 and i have a ryzen 7 1700 16gb ram and gtx 1070
scenic lance
I have a pretty big budget for a new pc though so im happy
hollow helm
hopefully the z390 strix goes on sale for black friday
scenic lance
Same
timid cedar
maybe it will
hollow helm
phanteks makes good cases?
want a case with rgb fans tempered glass and psu shield
was thinking of something like this one or similar https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854046
ruby sapphire
check out Montech Air900 rgb Mesh o.o
scenic lance
@ ehehjij - if you have 2080 super budget, I'd spend $80 more for far more quality of PSU, 750-850 - but don't fixate on the wattage.
PSU wattage is as trustworthy as the brand / model itself.
I'd go EVGA T2/P2/PQ or Seasonic prime ultra Titanium personally - it's a 12 year investment for ~$140-200 or less - but to each their own.
That said, $80-$110 gets a perfectly fine Corsair RM(X) or something, forget which models have the good good inside
hollow helm
i use a evga 750 g3
barren basin
@hollow helm that case almost looks like this one from Cooler Master lol https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-lite-5-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119325
hollow helm
barren basin
If i was to use Cooler Master again i would go for this one https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119345
hollow helm
why the 520 is better i believe
barren basin
one looks and two i believe it would have better airflow and cleaning
hollow helm
the 520?
barren basin
the 500
hasty delta
I want a new sff case, but I am too cheap to spend $200 on one. Any suggestions besides the node 202.
vocal talon
h200, cougar qbx (not many super small cases other than expensive ones), velka 5 is a bit more at around $150
severe venture
Whats the most interesting custom built case yall have seen
scenic lance
steady ember
Which would be the best out of these?
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#X=0,10083&e=4&A=750000000000,1020000000000&p=2&m=11,14,18
steady ember
Anybody? Lol
barren basin
Go full
steady ember
Full modular?
barren basin
yes
steady ember
What’s the difference? I honestly have no clue lol
steady ember
@hushed yoke
hushed yoke
hm?
steady ember
Help me out on a power supply?
steady ember
Huh well there’s 3. Basically I’m looking for a power supply under 90$
hushed yoke
theres a 700w one for $65
pretty sweet deak
deal*
not modular or anything, but i mean, $65 for a 700w psu
long lynx
Rgb psu
hushed yoke
thermaltake does it
i think they might be the only company that makes rgb psus
check out the PF1 ARGB psu by thermaltake, its expensive but it just looks SO DARN GOOD
you can see it in my tweet lol
hushed yoke
lol
forgot asus made power supplies lol
anyways
the one in that video is argb, 1050w, and 80+ platinum
it was $200 something
long lynx
I have a toughpower rgb
Too bad I can't sync it with my case
since the 12v header refuses to work
steady ember
@hushed yoke what’s the difference between semi and full modular
hushed yoke
modular lets you connect only the things you need, semi modular has the essentials plus room for expanding a bit more, and non modular has everything pre attached which can be annoying. for example, lets say you dont have any hard drives, and have a non modular psu. Well, now you gotta have all those extra cables in your case
the best would be fully modular, but a lot of lower power psus only come semi or non modular
vocal talon
ah yes zack's giveaway spam twitter
hushed yoke
i should really just make a second twitter for giveaways
its weird because a couple of my irl friends follow me so if i tweet about computer stuff they all complain "NneERRddDD stop talking about computers for once!!"
i should get new friends 
steady ember
Is 650 watt too low?
scenic lance
I wouldnt settle fo less than 10k
barren basin
Depending on your system 650w could be low
hushed yoke
i have an 8700 and a gtx 1070, plus a h100i rgb platinum cooler, and 650w is perfect
800w is for high end systems
scenic lance
Well idk wat u people call basic builds
But id rather have more power just incase i wanna upgrade
barren basin
Basic builds are pretty much like an i5 or R5 with something along the line of a GTX 1660, RTX 2060, RX 580 or RX 5700
scenic lance
Thats below basic for me
barren basin
Ok well for most people here that is a basic system
barren basin
i5's are still very useful especially since now they have 6 cores instead
most games as well would still require like an i5 6400
hushed yoke
barren basin
^
hushed yoke
i understand tho, everyone has a different standard, so thats fine
barren basin
ya but not everyone has 500$ to blow on a CPU
hushed yoke
for me a basic build makes me think about a pc that isnt flashy at all, no rgb, boring case, etc.
steady ember
barren basin
650w is more than enough
I am using a 2600 with a 1660 and a 600w PSU and i am not even close to hitting the full power of the PSU
I think the most my system is pulling is about 425w
steady ember
Oh ok, what brands are good?
barren basin
EVGA, corsair, ThermalTake, Seasonic and Cooler Master
This is just me but if i was to pick out a PSU i would go for this one https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-mwe-gold-650-full-modular-mpy-6501-afaag-us-650w/p/N82E16817171128
rich vine
Can confirm that EVGA 450w bronze will run RTX 2080Ti with OC'ed R5 2600 using B450m Motherboard. Would I recommend it?!? Big no, but it does boot and play games. 😄
Just ask a few of the Newegg tech supp, they were there to witness it! 
barren basin
but don't quote me on that
rich vine
Oh trust, we were skeptical as well... But went tried it anyway. Was thoroughly surprised it booted, let alone play games! It's NE's PS people that were with me when tested it LuL
scenic lance
He's right - I wouldn't recommend that either - ever, but I don't doubt it'd work, especially with a lower power limit, non OC'd card. The 2600 is what 100W load? no idea tbh, card could be 250 to 400W+ max depending on model.
I have some junk psu's I kinda want to hook up to a dummy load and show what happens when things get hot.
Same for mobo vrm, but making a dummy load cpu is a bit harder.
barren basin
I just saw a video on a junk Aliexpress PSU lol
It works but you would need like additional fans cooling down that PSU >_<
rich vine
LuL go YOLO right?
scenic lance
I'm surprised some youtuber hasn't tried to diy a PC power supply from aliexpress parts
Well, new project I guess
hasty delta
Ordered a velka 5 today. I blame you @barren basin
hasty delta
I really considered ordering a Dan a4, but with shipping it was getting awful close to $250 and I just couldnt imagine it being $100 better than the Velka
now I just need a vr headset and I will be ready to go
vocal talon
yeah
ncase m1 is pretty nice too for around the price
and its got 240mm aio support
hasty delta
I looked at the M1, but cost was a factor on it as well. It is a little bigger than what I wanted and also I had about $120 in paypal and sfflab doesn't accept paypal. If they did I probably would have considered the a4 a little more
hasty delta
I am moving an old itx build into this case. its a z170 and 6600k. I have had a pentium and 1050ti in the itx build, but the plan is to get a vr headset to so I am moving my 6600k and rx580 into this case
full maple
Hi, I was looking for an rgb ATX case possibly less than 54x25x54, any suggestions?
rich vine
yup yup! And for the price, its very tempting...tempting enough that I bought one 2 days ago. will transfer my build into it LuL
barren basin
I transferred my build into this one
and those are the same RGB lights
Just wanted to show them in action as well
barren basin
box it is a disco show lol
rich vine
Nice!!! not all into RGB, but can always set it to static white...and 4 fans included with the case is pretty good for $80
cinder pollen
Anyone know if the airflow on the Corsair C70 is any good ?
I’m looking into getting one as my next case when I do a second build
dire shale
Its easy enough to see it yourself
Heres what you look for
Ventilation holes/mesh
Amount of intake fans
Placement of those ventilation holes/mesh
scenic lance
im thinking in this for my case https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616091681305001998/638373631965134859/best-gaming-desk.jpg
dark drum
I've been thinking about loading my hard drive with a bunch of single player games and mounting my current system in my dad's truck and reusing my case for my next build.With my old graphics card, probably transfer my current one to the new build. lol I say this as though I'm likely to have money XD reality is I probably won't for like 5 months
on that front, anyone have a btter idea than just plugging my old PSU into an inverter?
scenic lance
You can get very high efficiency +12V to atx PSU's http://www.pico-box.com/en/products/1682/X500
dark drum
That says input is 16-28volt
Is therew a subsytem of a vehicle that uses that that I coud wire it to?
or am I wiring that to the car through a inveter transformer ectifier combo?
rectifier
scenic lance
Mainly meant to link the site, good catch though, I'm like 99% sure that's the go-to small psu dc-dc brand of choice for people who build those kinds of things.
I mean, they have 12v input models http://www.pico-box.com/en/products/7826/Z2-ATX-200
dark drum
ahh okay, thanks
I'll have to double check on how much power my system was drawing with the old card
200W seems like it might not cut it
scenic lance
Unsure which, if any of those are suitable for a car system, - which will fluctuate between 11.x volts and peak over 14.
dark drum
right
we have an inverter system right now that will support a PS4 and a TV
it's kindof cool being able to move your legs and tilt the screen lol
scenic lance
You *can use an inverter - even a cheap square wave unit to drive a regular ATX switch mode psu, but using a DC DC unit just skips that step
dark drum
yeah that makes sense
based on all those capacitors on the boards, I'm assuming they are capacitor switching?
also their website needs to get with the times, who doesn't use https these days?
scenic lance
Capacitor switching?
haha ya idk, I use https everywhere but I wonder if there's still no cert if I tried to buy/checkout.
dark drum
right
yeah as to how they're supplying power
literally switching between capacitors as they get drained
A microcontroller would regulate it to keep the voltage stable
scenic lance
Oh, no, I had just called it "switch mode" previously since that's more of the generic term for this kind ofstuff
http://www.pico-box.com/media/products/20180612/IMG_0371.jpg from that pic - Those two chips on the right are the high side mosfets, the 8 pin package to its left is the driver, middle should bet he voltage controller
dark drum
I'd love to see a circuit diagram, or the other side of the board.
before buying lol
do they have diagrams on the site?
looking now
I'm not finding it
scenic lance
This is just my rough guess btw -hard to really see much from the small pics, but some actual psu reviewer probably has a teardown somewhere.
dark drum
true
scenic lance
I wouldn't expect that kind of thing on the site usually.
dark drum
right
scenic lance
Oh, actually this was the psu brand I was thinking of, not that chinese one https://hdplex.com/hdplex-400w-hi-fi-dc-atx-power-supply-16v-24v-wide-range-voltage-input.html
scenic lance
It's a niche market segment tbh. What got you interested in PSU design? I like Aris's PSU reviws the most, https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-1600-t2-psu,5414.html
dark drum
lol like I said I'm thinking about mounting this old system in a truck when I build a new oneXD
not sure yet if I wanna keep usnign the lap tv or mount a nicer small monitor on the glovebox
scenic lance
Just wondering. I love psu tech etc, usually people only ask about "is this enough watts for muh 2080" etc
dark drum
XD
lol
I have a mining PSU upstairs somewhere
and an asic that is no longer profitable XD
I mean it would be profitable if we had solar panelsXD
but with current power costs here
nah
scenic lance
I started mining using regular ATX units wired for multi psu with adapters, very quickly realized it was far cheaper too get 750-1200W platinum server psu's used on ebay for $30 ish, then use breakout boards
Some asics were a decent profit - I just remember the butterfly labs drama in 2011.
Glad I didn't pre-order that jalepeno
scenic lance
Long time ago haha, whatever was profitable, easy to check what's ideal on a per-work unit basis with a script etc.
scenic lance
Burstcoin was interesting. I want to revisit proof of storage algo's , was a fun way to learn about those types of hardware
dark drum
have you seen the LTT video where they filled a server rack with drives?
scenic lance
The petabyte project or something? Like a diy backblaze? I think so
dark drum
scenic lance
Ah, ya, I remember glancing through it at the time, I/most people were using turboplotter like he did in the vid by then. Way faster vs almost any comparable cpu
dark drum
Btw, I love your Chat icon
if you don't know what that is
you are in for amusement
scenic lance
Lol yes I know what clippy is.
dark drum
noo the video
scenic lance
Oh, no, never seen it
dark drum
lol it's pretty funny
scenic lance
Can someone help me
mint escarp
With what?
elder minnow
What are the hinge pins of the "Wireless Bluetooth Clamshell iPad Keyboard Case 360 Degree Rotation for iPad 2/3/4" made of?
I have one that looks identical (JETech) and the plastic pins in the hinge broke after a year normal use. The 30 day warranty is unlikely to cover that. Comments?
hushed yoke
sorry bud, but i dont think anybody here would know the answer to that one D:
elder minnow
I can see I'm in the wrong place. I was directed to this web page by Newegg, but I don't see a group that covers cases for tablets. Maybe the cell-phones group. Thanks.
storm fable
Anyone know where I can get a CORSAIR Carbide AIR 240 for under $150 or is that the going rate $199.99 and above on an matx case with good cooling?
I mean, I could go eBay for 65 dollars and 44 dollars shipping, but legitimately, how is the case market this bad for airflow cases?
storm fable
nah it 4 year old case just hard to find a case that fits in my allotted size
storm fable
just in a tizzle because this is 4 years old case expected more cases in this style
hasty delta
I think its expensive because they aren't making it anymore
they replaced it with the 280x
full maple
Hey, which case is best? This one (https://www.amazon.com/Anidees-Crystal-Tempered-Support-Radiator/dp/B07NW42KN9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=anidees+AI+Crystal+XL+RGB+V3&qid=1573221473&sr=8-1) or this one (https://www.amazon.com/Sahara-Single-Tempered-Glasses-Module/dp/B01LYZYJ1H/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?keywords=Sahara+P75+RGB+Full+ATX+Gaming+Case&qid=1573221635&sr=8-2-fkmr0)? For the second one, since it's not a UK or US product, I'll include the original italian link: https://www.amazon.it/Sahara-Custodia-P75-Supporta-alloggiamento-Telecomando/dp/B01M19Y0FM/ref=pd_sbs_147_5/258-7408679-7473530?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M19Y0FM&pd_rd_r=2aec4a77-46c2-4c0d-b8a5-1aa4a3e15243&pd_rd_w=kkzjw&pd_rd_wg=UixHd&pf_rd_p=fbcaa110-7762-4ba4-93f0-28dd164e130c&pf_rd_r=5M55GH54XK5FX0AQ9031&psc=1&refRID=5M55GH54XK5FX0AQ9031
Price doesn't matter.
soft edge
Do modern PSU's from reputable companies ever actually fry components? Always feel like there are a few reviews giving them 1 star for destroying everything but feel like those might be 'brigades' from fanboys
hushed yoke
brands i trust: thermaltake, seasonic, corsair, evga, uhhhhhhhh
i feel like theres one more but i cant remember it
quasi inlet
Seasonic is very good. I once had a motherboard fry but I don't even remember what brand that psu was and the PC was really friggin old to be fair
barren basin
Seasonic over ThermalTake
vocal talon
evga all the way because of their customer support
reef breach
Nividia and msi
rich vine
Select Rosewill units are using SuperFlower, which is the same as EVGA. Capstone series for one is using superflower. I have the 650m. Almost 1 year, zero issues.
But same here, I recommend EVGA or Seasonic. Especially if they are all around the same price with rosewill capstones
manic mango
So I bought a rose will fortress 750w 80+plat back in 213 for my first build. This thing is a beast and still going strong. Would it be OK to reuse in another build or would you advise against it due to the age?
severe venture
@manic mango if it is running as expected it is fine to use i am still using old powersupplies in some of my pcs and they run fine just keep them clean
hollow helm
i use a EVGA 750 G3
rich vine
Yeah, you can reuse PSUs onto new builds, so long as there's no problem with it.
pine solstice
Does anyone know if a 1000w psu is compatible with a 900w 1500va ups?
vocal talon
wdym compatible?
pine solstice
will the psu work at full performance
barren basin
For what kind of system?
scenic lance
Should i get a 600w or 700w with 2080 gpu and i9
obsidian garden
800 or more to be sure y'kn0w
scenic lance
Now how about (2080ti ,i9 ,watercooling)
vocal talon
why would you need 2 pumps? 1 would be fine
agile scaffold
Has anyone built a pc using the NZXT H510?
not the Elite, just the H510/H510i?
I'm thinking about picking one up for a new case
scenic lance
2 pumps because i want 2 different colors
scenic lance
I think dual loop is often smart when you have a CPU overclock that's heat sensitive that would otherwise have to share fluid with a 300+ watt GPU.
grand ether
nice darling in the franxx build @scenic lance
tame wolf
what i dont get is that they are selling a power supply from evga 600bq for $80 and the 750bq is $75
i actually dont know why
my brain hurts
sturdy storm
Don't worry it's just a bug in the simulation
outer stump
Anyone know how to take off the front panel of this case?
tryna replace the cheap broken front fan
flat eagle
it's probably popped in on each corner
outer stump
so should i try popping it out from the bottom?
scenic lance
i would take off the side panel, and look in the drive bas
bays
i would bet there are tabs on the front panel latched into the case itself that you have to pop out
on the inside of the case
barren basin
If there is no tabs then it is glued on there
tacit ferry
What kind of cases would yall recommend, just from your personal preference?
grand ether
coolermaster cases are still my all time favorite cases for airflow @tacit ferry
quasi inlet
The big chonkin DIYPC cuz it's just so good for cable management
scenic lance
Thermaltake
P3/p5
cougar mx330-g
its cheap, its got glass, and a discrete dvd bay slot, good airflow
also 4 front usb slots, cable management holes, and a psu shroud
scenic lance
SC846tq, OpenBenchtable BC-1, motherboard box top 3 easy
vocal talon
bruh
cunning walrus
So I have a question. I am leaving for work tomorrow for 14 days, is it safe turn my computer off but leave the psu on while I’m gone? Also it’s plugged into a surge protector
crimson axle
is the corsair 570x decent for airflow?
vocal talon
its decent, but dust should build up fast with all the gaps for air https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2689-corsair-570x-270r-case-review/page-3
hybrid saffron
Is the nzxt 510 a good case?
rare phoenix
anyone know of good mid/full towers on sale that can fit a 2070S, include fans (unless they're cheap to get), don't care about RGB, dvd space would be nice, but can always go ext
hushed yoke
great budget option
great looks option
they also have it in white if you prefer
all of those have a 5.25" bay for a dvd reader
omg im so stupid
how could i forget 
this one is for ultimate looks
it also includes a 5.25" bay lol
theres a ton of options though, but those are some of them that i recommend. If youd like to see them all, heres a link https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007583 4814 600546033 600030545 50001379 600545969 50001333 50014581 600030546 600030551 50001459 50060115 600030547 600030552
rare phoenix
thanks!
hushed yoke
👍
rare phoenix
Do you have any feelings towards Rosewell? For the last 15 or so years I've built I've never considered them.
barren basin
Rosewill case 😛
lethal fractal
I need a case suggestion
round vapor
What hard drive will fit a dragon rider tower case?
flat eagle
form the looks of this, I say a few 3.5 drives.
if you checked newegg specs on it, it shows you this:
round vapor
Oh okay. Does that come with the cords I need to connect it to? like the Sata Cord?
flat eagle
depends on what you buy , some come with cables, some don't
long lynx
ur psu comes with a lot of sata cords
round vapor
Or should I buy a splitter?
long lynx
usually
dark drum
lols but will it have PCie power
Will it have molex
will it do the thing !!!!
????
XD
crimson axle
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVKC
would this be worth getting?
lethal fractal
how much is it?
crimson axle
70 on newegg
kinda wish it had rbg but it would probably more expensive. Still dont know if its worth it
scenic lance
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880 this is very good deal - especially for zen2 memory if you want plug and play XMP
Post in #cpus-mobo-and-memory tho
crimson axle
my bad thanks for telling me im new to this server
sacred latch
well to answer Gskill ripjaws is good ram. couldnt go wrong if you dont need anything flashy. Cheap and effective
lethal fractal
yep
mortal harbor
You need special case for cad? 
lethal fractal
no i want a smaller case