cases-psu-and-cooling

[serene siren]

Like even if this costs like $60 more than the competition I'd be recommending

Maybe even $80

Cos the feature set is excellent

[sand atlas]

As long as the shape fits the case and the budget allows for it, yeah

[serene siren]

Oh yeah

No I'd find a case to fit it

First time in a long ass time where paying more genuinely looks like you get way more

For a psu

[sand atlas]

O11D Evo and it's clones would be good it looks like

[serene siren]

Yeah

It's designed mainly for dual chamber but they work in a lot of places

Basically you need the space to fit a long unit

182mm length

So it's sizeable

I just love this it's really innovative

I could really care less for the changed interface but they made something of that, and now I love the idea

[sand atlas]

If it wasn't a top mount case it would go well in my torrent. I guess I could get USB/fan extensions.

[serene siren]

A thermaltake usb cable is like $5

Lol

Those things are long af

[sand atlas]

I'll usually go for the aliexpress special for $1

[serene siren]

I reckon that psu is going to be like $80 over the norm

But totally worth for high end

Even mid range, if it has space in the budget it's a better idea than a better ssd imo

[elfin trout]

Is this trying to do USB PSU control like Corsair on like AXi?

Or is it only a USB hub

[sand atlas]

It's a hub, intended to be used with lian li's new rgb stuff most likely

[serene siren]

It's a 2.0 and fan hub

Which is nice af

[sand atlas]

PWM hub at that

[serene siren]

I didn't see argb anywhere? It's standard spec tho

Yes

It also has fan header control yeah

For the psu itself

[sand atlas]

No no I mean their new rgb stuff uses a ton of USB 2.0 headers

[serene siren]

Oh is that why

Ah

Damn that's, a bit discomforting

Lol

[sand atlas]

I think j2c did a vid

[serene siren]

All that bandwidth on rgb

Yike

Oh the screens would need it ig

Fair enough

[sand atlas]

yep

[serene siren]

So everyone wins because of goofy infinity fan buyers lmao

No one told me anything about this psu btw

It appeared on my yt feed

Lol

Just announced

Sometimes the algorithm gives me a good one

[elfin trout]

Wait so it's using USB for argb? Did I miss something?

[serene siren]

Seems so

And those little lcds

[sand atlas]

I think it was this https://youtu.be/rdwnbq4LC6Y?si=B2eZez-39tOrKKOc

[serene siren]

The screens def need usb

[serene siren]

Is he in his depression arc

What's with the thumbnail lol

☠️

[sand atlas]

I think he's sick of BS marketing claims

[serene siren]

His eyes definitely show that

Me tbh

Would love to know if that edge unit is sub 140mm before the L part

That would make it very well fit in many spaces

130 would be incredible

[elfin trout]

It looks like it only takes usb 3.0 to mobo, so all of the headers on there are prob 2.0, which makes me wonder what else you would use them for

[sand atlas]

You'd use them for this

[serene siren]

2.0

I'd not have got excited about it if it was 3.0 lol

Not that the usb is as important really

[sand atlas]

I counted the pixels
It's about 144mm before the L

[serene siren]

That's actually still good and also thank you lol

If you account for cable plugs 144mm is competitive with sff psus in smaller cases for clearance fitting

So good to help make things fit if you have length but not height available

[elfin trout]

Guess we'll have to see if anyone else adopts that and moves forward with more things using USB for power

[sand atlas]

They're lian li fans so people will buy them

It's like a fashion statement at this point

[serene siren]

I continue to pack said fashion statement deeper away into my storage

With 0 regret and in fact elation

[elfin trout]

I wonder if that'll cause changes in new sff cases, I feel like it's cramped enough in sff cases where you'd only have space for it to either go straight out the back or out the L shape

[serene siren]

The dan A3 was designed for it, makes a big difference in fact

So they've started at least internally

But I'd enjoy seeing that too

[elfin trout]

Now to see if anyone else does that

[serene siren]

Ye

Being able to mess with the dimensions a bit with new hardware might open up some new ideas

Like an sfx version of the edge

[elfin trout]

But it does seem like it's doable for a standard like that to proliferate, like there's a good number of different companies doing BTF stuff, moving to L shaped PSUs isn't too much different

[serene siren]

Ye

[plucky pilot]

Question for anyone with Lian Li O11D evo rgb case: Can I fit a 360mm on top, and 3x140 on side, 3x140 on bottom? Or do I need to do 120 on sides and or bottom?

Looks like I can

[sand atlas]

Specs on the manufacturer page say top 420, side and bottom 360

While you can fit 3x 140mm fans on the side and bottom, a radiator hangs out further due to the fittings

[plucky pilot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/wrpxno/lianli_evo_with_6_140mm_fans_with_360mm_cooler/#lightbox
I saw this, looks like I should be able to fit it

[sand atlas]

That's a 360mm radiator on the side

And it goes all the way to the top

From the looks of that image you also won't be able to fit 3 radiators at the same time

Unless you get special low profile fittings

[serene siren]

You can do triple rad in o11

I don't endorse the idea but I did the very thing in an evo

Beyond anything else if you have bad joints and lifting issues I highly don't recommend triple rad

It literally turns the pc into like a 20kg behemoth lmfao

Aside from the fact that the investment is very unnecessary

[neon badger]

More cases like razer tomahawk ATX???

[elfin trout]

Isn't that just a reskinned h510? Not that you should buy one

[serene siren]

It's effectively as bad if not worse

💀

[neon badger]

How tf you find a good case

?

[bleak holly]

good fan orientation, expandabillity, and make sure the filters don't obstruct airflow

[neon badger]

Gotta note this down

[bleak holly]

what's your budget?

[neon badger]

Something around $100

[bleak holly]

ahh I am not the one to ask then. I usually look at cases in the $200+ category

Hmm, what does come to mind are the Fractal Torrent and Fractal Design North pc cases

probably nab one around $150

[neon badger]

I can try that

[bleak holly]

I personally use a Torrent. note the thing is a beast

fits anything you could want

and amongst the best for airflow

about 2.5x the size of a typical case though

[neon badger]

I want something like tomahawk, minimal black

[bleak holly]

I haven't used that case myself but since it's open air the airflow won't be an issue though...

beware of dust

[neon badger]

Any image? Or link?

[bleak holly]

that's gonna be a pain

[neon badger]

Ah shiiii

[neon badger]

FOR REAL

[bleak holly]

That's a 3 fan cooler on that 3070.

The interior is big enough to fit something like a 4090 aorus master and still have space

[neon badger]

Wow, how many fans can i fit??

Cuz i wont be going with a liquid cooler

[bleak holly]

Front: 2x180mm/3x140mm/3x120mm
Bottom: 2x180mm/3x140mm/3x120mm
Exhaust: 1x140mm/1x120mm

the dust filters do a good job and the case is considered to be amongst the best for airflow.

[neon badger]

Yooo👀

Can you send me the link??

[bleak holly]

Technically if you wanted you could strap some like 3x80mm fans to the exhaust area by the gpu if you don't mind red neck engineering

[bleak holly]

sure also note

the frame is made of aluminium with matte plastic panelling and genuine tempered glass. traveled around the world with this thing. it's weight is obnoxious though at about 40lbs

comes in black, white, gunmetal gray

[neon badger]

You traveling with pc???

[bleak holly]

https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-Torrent-Black-Light/dp/B08698DZ25/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=1U897U7CC767H&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gchmtDKF8_1krOkUYighbRVGIc3HuoEdp4DwI2JekUc1n8NwEry7bvAYolmKqsLUvoIhcrVf3p4hCNwT4D_KyV9WrB4pSovRMbzi4DAkOkLUI9t-c2bw7sRoDq71qQhbh_6Iha4QJq-35Y7TMjqnAxRQe-GsdgUYNj0ZvkyPt3CiLC7V3PJzY-w6VKCgYvymnmpT3suy17_2U7CNXT6Mj16CjuabsnThV9qTsb0a978.gBA5wzQD-TZy3Oy-xlwApJHOczNFl3Tdj5563wXbvc8&dib_tag=se&keywords=fractal%2Btorrent&qid=1736931998&sprefix=fractal%2Bt%2Caps%2C336&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

[neon badger]

Nice

[bleak holly]

Yes, i am an odd ball

mine is the gunmetal gray variant

[neon badger]

I would love black

[bleak holly]

works well with black and white components especially if you have a mix of those like my board which is black and white

[neon badger]

How do you carry your pc?

And monitor?

[bleak holly]

monitor is in it's own case, and the pc I pack into the original box every time

peripherals, cables, backup parts etc are packed into a box

[neon badger]

Ever travelled in plane with this?

[bleak holly]

yes

5 times now I thinkl

4 or 5

[neon badger]

And how do they deal with your luggage, i guess they throw it? Right??

[bleak holly]

yep

i recently complained about that

how they chucked my pc

[neon badger]

And the pc stays safe?

[bleak holly]

if you pack it up like a psychopath like me yes

[neon badger]

Great!!!

[bleak holly]

honestly I don't recommend travelling with it though

[neon badger]

If i get this case, i guess i will wrap my desk with matte black

[bleak holly]

unless you are very strong and genuinely don't mind the cost of travelling with it

[bleak holly]

thing weighs about 60-70lbs with a full system

[neon badger]

Dayum

[bleak holly]

I can vet for the case though.

[neon badger]

Whats the weight of case alone?

[bleak holly]

10/10 on build quality

10/10 on expandabillity

[neon badger]

🗣️📈

[bleak holly]

11/10 on airflow

[neon badger]

🚀🚀🚀🚀

[bleak holly]

about 40lbs

I forget the exact weight

[neon badger]

Isn't this heavier than normal??

[bleak holly]

yes

this is a giant case

[neon badger]

Why?

[neon badger]

Dimensions? Any idea??

[bleak holly]

2.5x the size of a typical case and the frame is made of metal wheras most use plastic

[neon badger]

Good shiii

[bleak holly]

about 2 feet tall/wide and about 1.2 feet deep

or think of it as 3.5 monster cans stacked vertically

it makes a 3080 ti look small in there

544 x 242 x 530 mm

are the exact dimensions

[neon badger]

Dayumm

Imma get one

Thank you

[bleak holly]

No problem, it's a solid case and honestly the only thing that you will be disappointed about with it is the weight lmao

Oh

@neon badger word of advise

While not necessary I suggest getting cable extensions for your front fans

assuming you get an atx motherboard

[mellow dome]

My guy looked at his can stack on the side and gave it as reference 😭

[bleak holly]

lmao

[bleak holly]

Would 3 and 1/3rd of a Zeiss 100 pack lens wipes stacked vertically be a better reference?

[mellow dome]

Depends, is it 33 in the 1/3 pack or 33.3 continuum?

[serene siren]

I'll give you this, no one writes a manual on what's good but here's a bit of a tl;dr

Good reviews is big

Front mesh panel or mesh intake is also big

Decent price is mega

Included fans is excellent

Included fan and/or rgb controller is amazing

Remember those 5 points and you should generally be set

[bleak holly]

expandabillity for upgrades such as large gpu, better rad, etc is good as well

[mellow dome]

God honestly why isn't ai being used to keep track of this stuff, you'd think with how advanced they're getting they'd be able to keep tabs on the best deals for different categories

[serene siren]

Cos ai is as good as the opinions of those who make them

[mellow dome]

Also decent price is a bit vague

[serene siren]

It all depends on the price class

Newegg tried using ai

For their pc builder

[mellow dome]

Lol yeah, im just malding honestly

[serene siren]

It was very quickly meme'd on by the internet cos of how wild the suggestions were

Like 12700K, 3060, 550W basic psu

Type stuff

💀

[mellow dome]

Yikes

[serene siren]

Cos this is what basic knowledge typically looks like

And the ai was using all data

So it was like "Oh yeah this is what people like/think are good"

Puts thermaltake white

[mellow dome]

I should become rich and just test tech

[bleak holly]

Master Systems are still better imo currently

[bleak holly]

Because of this exact reason.

[serene siren]

Unfortunately a lot of pc building is subjective so you'll never get something that's truly "perfect"

[mellow dome]

Tbf that's also a really simple ai, not taking account the type of stuff people usually combine and just going by popularity

[bleak holly]

opt on the side of caution / redundancy and you shall always be fine

[mellow dome]

Its too vague

[serene siren]

Ai is just algorithms at the end of the day

Not far from the other

[mellow dome]

True that

[bleak holly]

i want a geode theme pc case

@serene siren @mellow dome

Something like this is what I want to go for but less obstructive and rather than parts I want to make the majority of the pc covered in crystal

so it looks like a crystal cavern on the inside

@serene siren so in the build the builder said what they used to attach the crystals is Hot Glue and that they hold on very tight while still being removable if peeled because of the smooth surfaces without causing damage to the fans

hot glue melts at 120c

What if I made a resin plate, cut it to shape and used hot glue to attach large crystals fifth-quarter inch in size to the resin that then gets screwed onto the fan? @serene siren

[visual fjord]

That seems like it'd block so much airflow

[bleak holly]

surprisingly they said their temps stayed within a 2c difference

probably because of that bottom fan their being blocked almost entirely

[ember hound]

Hey guys, Ive had a Phanteks P500A for several years now, fantastic case, but, whenever I go to plug something in, or stand up from my desk, my monitor goes blank and my drivers crash. I don’t know if plugging stuff in is a case issue, and I don’t know why my screen goes blank every time I stand up, it always comes back on afterwards.

It could be a monitor issue or even a cable issue, or god forbid (sarcasm) My RX580 is just been faulty since day 1 lol

[elfin trout]

Sounds like something wrong with USB ports or drivers on the motherboard or the device you're plugging in

Idk what standing up would do to it, maybe you're stretching a cable whenever you stand up and move your chair..?

[ember hound]

I’m thinking its a USB issue because occasionally movng my headset will also cause a driver crash

[upbeat parrot]

Any idea of when Antec C8 Curve is going to be in stock for Canada?

[sand atlas]

No one here works in that department, sorry

[lilac basalt]

XPG Core Reactor II (750w) or GIGABYTE GP-UD750GM-A (also 750w) both fully modular. one is 90$ the other 80$ gonna go with one of those but unsure which

[blissful thistle]

Core reactor ii

There's some good 850w at $90/$95

[subtle lodge]

Im thinking about getting the meshroom d on the sspud website

Trying to find if they can do returns or not

I think i would like it but just to be sure

Alr so I got two weeks

[woven thunder]

It failed again. 850rmx psu from corsair is failing again 1 month after getting it.
Was doin undervolted gaming and it crashes to black often again.
Do i even bother with this endless cycle of RMA's at this point?

I have the other psu (GF A3)from thermaltake to swap to

That lasted well while i was waitin for the replacement...

[blissful thistle]

Either corsair changed the quality of the rmx, you got incredibly unlucky, or something else is the issue

Worth swapping back to the gf a3

[viscid patrol]

Someone on another server was having issues with their 850rmx tripping on ocp as well with a 7900xtx

They swapped to a 1000w and it fixed it

[woven thunder]

Anyplace i can send it to a hardware evaluater? Still like to know what the heck is goin on at this point now

[sand atlas]

GN could analyze it, maybe they'll buy it off of you

They're always up for another sting operation on products that fail to meet their previous standards

[serene siren]

I mean if it were me then I reckon multiple psus tripping is likely something not related to the psu

My experience has led me to this outcome a few times

For example if you use cable extensions, try removing those altogether for a couple weeks. Problem gone? It was the cables (Common issue I've found in extensions the last few months)

A dodgy usb connection

Maybe a fan

Something is likely doing that unless your specs are so high it is woefully underpowered (e.g something like 13900k+7900XTX, or something a bit less but a crap ton of rgb to make up for it)

That would be my current take

[sand atlas]

I was tripping OCP on my RM850x until Nvidia updated their drivers and tamed the load spikes. I was getting 550W spikes before, now it's more like 425W. No more OCP trips.

[serene siren]

I don't believe there's any cards with that issue rn

Correct me if I'm wrong lol

3080Ti still does have big power spikes but they don't trip psus like GA102 used to

[sand atlas]

Could narrow it down with a power limit on the XTX

[serene siren]

They're on xtx?

[sand atlas]

Maybe that was someone else

I can't multi convo as good as you lol

[serene siren]

Xtx was just an example idk the spec

Lmao

No I'm awful

Don't pedestal me

I forget things constantly

[wanton venture]

Is the silverstone da750 or da750r better? Or any other psu in Netherlands

[blissful thistle]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/zm7scf/asus-prime-ap-750g-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ap-750g

Actually
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[wanton venture]

Those shipping times are both way longer and as an introvert with no life i need my pc to live

Is the difference really big?

[blissful thistle]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/DKpQzy/deepcool-pm750d-750-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-r-pm750d-fa0b-us

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/FKZXsY/enermax-revolution-df-2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ers850ewt

[blissful thistle]

I'm not sure how the Silverstone is to be honest, but I can't suggest buying something i don't know about especially when it comes to psus

[agile sinew]

does the Phanteks XT Pro have good airflow?

[woven thunder]

Hey i just noticed something... with the corsair psu i never got a bios screen after first installation. The Thermal take A3 i always get bios...
Soo????
This means the psu wasn't givin adequate power???

[agile sinew]

looking to get something with good airflow for an atx MB if my current one wont be good enough

[sand atlas]

Mesh front, should be good enough for most builds

[agile sinew]

Ryzen 7 5800xt, Rx7800xt

[sand atlas]

I forgot they did a 5800XT

If it's about the same price and you're just gaming go for the 5700X3D instead, it's about 20% better at gaming

As for the case, it'll be fine for that tier of build

[blissful thistle]

and if youre swapping mobo might as well go am5 imo

[agile sinew]

I'll need an am5 cpu too then

I'll be fine as long as Stalker 2 runs well

maybe I'll get a better cpu cooler or even water cooler if I get a good price

[chilly path]

Watercooling is kind of dead lately

Air coolers are just too good

Unless you're Arctic or Thermalright, their AIOs are based

[serene siren]

For all but the highest end picks a good dual tower is more than enough

[agile sinew]

whats a good dual tower cooler? not looking to spend a fortune, rgb not necessary

[chilly path]

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 (SE, EVO or standard)

Pretty much tops performance for very reasonable costs

[upbeat parrot]

Be quiet dark rock pro is good

[sand atlas]

You're not wrong but it's also too expensive

[serene siren]

Toooooo expensive indeed

[agile sinew]

yea I dont want to spend a lot, I want to get a new monitor and peripherals aswell

[subtle lodge]

https://youtu.be/MX7KZ3eS6LA

[bleak holly]

Does anyone know what case this is???

[chilly path]

Looks to me kinda like a modded 1000D

most definitely a Corsair case, that latch on the top right is pretty telling

[bleak holly]

Gotcha. I wanted to know because I have been thinking about doing a custom loop some point in the future but I simply don't have the proper case for it. When I saw this, it looked quite ideal.

[chilly path]

Looks right to me, hbu?

[bleak holly]

Yeah looks very similar

How much power do you think a single 360mm rad can handle?

Just trying to get a mental picture for what would be needed.

I have noticed that since about a week before 5000 series launch all the Tower 900 cases from TT appear to have sold out

Seems to be a shortage on big PC cases that support good water cooling options

[bleak holly]

Currently the NV9 looka like the case of choice.

[chilly path]

uh

The 1000D can support dual 480s in the front

[bleak holly]

it definitely supports far more radiators, was just trying to get an idea of what a standard radiator can do.

[chilly path]

a 14900K. Kind of

[bleak holly]

Do you think a single 420mm radiator can cool a 5090?

My goal remains unchanged:

Save up and upgrade the parts in order:

• Oled monitor
• 5090
• Custom loop + new case

[slate creek]

You want 120mm per 100w + an extra 120mm

[chilly path]

I think a 420mm would be enough for a 5090

But only just

[bleak holly]

my idea currently is to us the Phanteks NV9 pc case with a 3x420mm rad setup + 240mm Pump/red for a combined single loop cooling components in this order.

CPU -> Rad -> RAM -> Rad -> GPU - > Rad -> Repeat

@chilly path, @slate creek

[slate creek]

Loop order doesn't really matter

Just make sure to have the drain port at the lowest point in the loop ideally

[sand atlas]

A 420mm radiator just for your RAM 😭

[serene siren]

*When pump head is strong enough

[sand atlas]

Well yes I was about to point out you'll likely need a dual pump setup with this much liquid

[slate creek]

Ehh, that's basically a given

I mean any legit D5 pump should be able to handle that without much issue

[serene siren]

Two pump types exist that fulfill that need and only those two lol

[slate creek]

That isn't that crazy of a loop to need 2 pumps

Then again if you have money to blow, why not

[sand atlas]

If it was just the 4 radiators yeah a D5 could do it just fine, it's the jet plates that kill the water flow

[serene siren]

A single fat 360 should be overkill for the loop with the right fpi

[sand atlas]

And there's at least 2 on every memory stick if you do proper cooling

[slate creek]

Ahh I missed the ram cooling

Personally think it's a waste of time to cool the ram but that's just me

[serene siren]

I think it's really a waste completely

Just use the old aio + an aio gpu

The temps will not improve, in fact get worse since it's LM

[slate creek]

^

[serene siren]

Your fans will not be quieter without replacing them, and then when you do, you've covered 90% of the difference to full water without even buying any of the parts

Even if it looks cool this is just not the right spec to do it imo

[sand atlas]

It's also going to be impossible to move that PC later without spending $300 on shipping ahead of your flight

Massive case with tons of metal in it

[serene siren]

As I've already explained but they insist on doing this instead of sff

The case will weigh like 20-30kg

Lmao

[sand atlas]

Even though you can do a 9800X3D/5090 FE in SFF easily now 😭

[slate creek]

I cant imagine moving an NV9 with a loop in it, my lancool III is already heavy af after somehow squeezing a loop into it

[serene siren]

My O11 evo felt like a sack of concrete to lug around

Hell

It still does

I vastly prefer the dan case now lmao

[blissful thistle]

I didn't think it would even be close to fitting in an A4 h2o
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jfhmC

[slate creek]

I want an SFF build but it's gonna wait until I'm upgrading cpus again

[serene siren]

The smallest case is that one optimum used

For a 5090

The thing is basically a shoebox size

[slate creek]

Not trynna buy another LGA1700 motherboard

[serene siren]

D32 pro

[sand atlas]

J2C did a 5090 FE in the Meshroom D

It was snug but it fit perfectly fine

[serene siren]

Whichever the one optimum picked was basically the limit lol

It was small af

[sand atlas]

15L case

[serene siren]

FormD T1
https://youtu.be/8PDYJI0W6Gk

[slate creek]

I'll go SFF if somehow there's a case that's tiny and still supports an ATX mobo

[serene siren]

D32 pro

[sand atlas]

Oh that's easy

[serene siren]

Matx but that's just mini me atx

[slate creek]

Product page only supports Matx

[serene siren]

The best size

[slate creek]

Still would need to buy a new mobo

[serene siren]

Just trade to a z690i unify

Nyoom

One of those, a v sfx 850

Boom

Tinyge

Or ig 1000W cos you like le yeeted 13th gen special course

SF1000L brrr

[slate creek]

Heyyy buddyyyy

You got a spare z690i unify?

[serene siren]

They're like 250 usd on ebay

Ez find

They'll do 8K too

[slate creek]

Mmmm

If only I didn't spend so much this month already

[serene siren]

Guess what

Tomorrow everything is 10% more

🎉

Electronic tariffs go hard

[sand atlas]

https://ssupd.co/products/cases-meshroom-s-v2

[slate creek]

😭

[serene siren]

Dan A3 😤

[slate creek]

You are terrible and I love you

[blissful thistle]

Thats so cool

14.9L and fits an ATX board

Wild

[slate creek]

All I gotta do is buy some new radiators and I'm set

2 280s should be enough for a 4090 and 13900k

Oooh or make a separate "radiator tower" for it

[bleak holly]

not for the ram, to act as a stop point to dump as much heat before going to cool the gpu. just decided to throw the ram in there.

[bleak holly]

the fractal was my idea of going reasonably sized tbh.

gtg back later

[slate creek]

@sand atlas meshroom S be out of stock almost everywhere

Nvm im blind

Im debating the xhuttle too now lmao

It looks so clean

[bleak holly]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CQZ97R7Z/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2OFKT6GABPTWG&psc=1

Are there any issues with this PSU?

I like the amount of connectors it has and I'd feel a lot better mentally having +1200 watts for a PSU when I upgrade parts.

[blissful thistle]

@serene siren https://www.newegg.com/black-zalman-cubix/p/2AM-0022-000K2?item=9SIABW9KFA0272

I want

[wide parrot]

Huh

Slightly smaller & cheaper IM01

No feet on the bottom means the gpu isn't gonna really be able to intake from that mesh though

Lowkey just a worse layout than the im01 unless you really need the vertical orientation

Cause the space next to the PSU is sorta wasted whereas in the im01 it allows for a longer gpu

Though I suppose you could toss some 2.5in SATA drives up there

[blissful thistle]

It just checks all the boxes I need and is cheap and tiny

But it looks like the psu is dead so that comes first lol

Oh well

I'm an idiot

And I won't elaborate for fear of my idiocy

[wide parrot]

PSU switch off?

[blissful thistle]

No... I may or may not have thought i grabbed a corsair sata power cable and it was evga...

[wide parrot]

oops

[blissful thistle]

And it works still

Thanks to corsair for having good psu protections lmao

[wide parrot]

was boutta ask if that was that a 'kill something' mistake or not

[blissful thistle]

I could've sworn it would be lmao

[blissful thistle]

Well it's turning on but no display

So maybe it was

[wide parrot]

did you use an acer hdmi on the samsung monitor?

[blissful thistle]

Lmfao

I'm displaying to a TV and it doesn't have windows yet but it should still show something

Both gpu and igpu don't display, and the build was working before my friend took out their psu/ssd, so yeah sounds like i killed the psu or it didn't work in the first place

[balmy badge]

anyone know anything about these units?

[blissful thistle]

Just confused, lights are on and fans spin but no display

[wide parrot]

and you said neither igpu nor gpu has output.. I'd say mobo died but I wouldn't expect that if the only bad cable was to the gpu

oh wait

you said sata power

uhhhh

[wide parrot]

also fans would be running off of mobo 🤦‍♂️ . I'm a bit tired, had classes 8am-3pm today

[blissful thistle]

It did go through a four hour drive too, it's possible something just broke

Idk

Most likely I just fried the psu

WAIT

I GOT IT?

Somehow unplugging the ssd did it???

So now uhh... windows...

And now it boots with the ssd

Computers annoy me

[blissful thistle]

And im now in windows

[serene siren]

Ooo compacc

[blissful thistle]

Did u see me being stupid

[blissful thistle]

.

[serene siren]

Oh wtf

Rip

I'm always scared of myself doing that cos a couple of my units I mixed the cables together too like an idiot (years ago)

Thankfully I have everything MOSTLY organised so I can trace my steps a bit but yeah that really sucks

I've had bad dreams about it 😂

[wide parrot]

Solution: only buy non modular psus 😈

[serene siren]

Tbh not a bad idea lmao

As long as you have a shroud you'd never know the difference, and they fold up really nicely

[blissful thistle]

It works now though lmao

[lofty pewter]

Better solution, buy wireless PSUs and just use bluetooth

[serene siren]

Bluetooth is slow af

The pc won't boot

💀

We need something better, like, wifi 7

[bleak holly]

Is the Thermaltake Tower 900 no longer being made?

[woven thunder]

Okay... now its happening with thermal take psu...

And my psu fan went to turbo max some reason.

That seemed to be a one time thing though, goin turbo...

Could the motherboard be at fault?

[blissful thistle]

Have you swapped anything yet other than psu?

Mobo would make sense

Or your wall socket

[woven thunder]

Already tried a different wall, nothing else in the build was swapped, and RAM is fine after the 6th test this year.

Probably might be motherboard now that i remember the summer problem. Had to replace a cpu power cable and pc ran fine. It was probably a bad cpu power socket instead, not a psu cable... so the 6 pin (or whatever count) on the motherboard may have been damaged

[blissful thistle]

Yeah I'd swap mobo next

[woven thunder]

I'd really wish there was hardware technicians in california. No real pc techs in LA... i still don't get how

[cobalt nymph]

https://www.amazon.sa/-/en/gp/product/B0CGRYHH49/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A725CE4YEASQD&th=1

what do you guys think about this case?

[woven thunder]

I have an micro b350 though from my previous build. It has the bios to support 3900x. But it won't boot off the m.2. I have an hdd with os. So hopefully that'll be all it'll need

Actually, maybe it can be fine without a heat sink so long as its not loading intesive tasks?

Thing is the m.2 slot is behind the mobo. So ye...

[woven thunder]

i updated bios, ran benchmarks so many times and it's fine now it seems,
i am goin so livid and crazy over this cursed build!
Nevermind, its still problems

[tawny oxide]

I saw this case during wife’s X-ray

I need the sleuths to find out what it is

[hearty umbra]

what psu would I need for 5070 currently rocking a 650w gold

[blissful thistle]

What model?

Odds are it's fine, but exact model is important

There's gold psus that'll cause house fires

[bleak holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJ_KSizDwM

[hearty umbra]

Rosewill lepton

[blissful thistle]

No

[hearty umbra]

Wait nvm its 600

What recommendations

For psu budget

[blissful thistle]

Country?

And its hard to recc something for a product that doesn't exist yet, so I'll probably be recommending something a little overkill

For the US
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4

This could probably do it, but i can't say one way or the other. If it's as easy to run as the 4070 it'll be fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yc26Mp/msi-mag-a650be-650-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a650be

[drowsy remnant]

@blissful thistle question for you. are cable extensions more flexible then the cables themselves? I’m trying to get my build done and the old PSU cables I’m trying to use are so still they are really giving me a hard time with both reaching the 3080 power and being able to be routed to not explode the back panel lol

[blissful thistle]

Wait what old psu cables

[wide parrot]

🚨🚨

[drowsy remnant]

So I’m using my PSU feom my 5600x build

[blissful thistle]

Oh ok but you're using the cables for that psu right?

Not a different psu?

[drowsy remnant]

Yes same cables but they feel like planks of wood with how stiff they got lol. And they are a bit to short actually

[blissful thistle]

Oof, I've never heard of that before

If you do need new cables you can contact support, they should either send you new ones or have you pay for new ones

[viscid patrol]

Yes, sleeved extensions are often more flexible due to it not being bonded together
But also, your PSU cables should not be stiff as wood

[drowsy remnant]

Oh dude it’s literally like trying to wrestle with it. Like the whole cable isn’t but towards where the connectors are it’s legit impossible to move. I suppose some of that could be from the position they were in on the last build but like they literally are just holding the shape

And I literally don’t have enough slack to route the cables in the case and be able to close the case lol

[viscid patrol]

Yeah I wouldn't trust those cables insulation to not crack under a new position due to stress

Those cables just like me fr

[drowsy remnant]

Ok so I’ll buy new cables I guess, that’s annoying lol. Is Asiahorse good?

Wonder if a new PSU is worth it… I was hoping to buy a 9070xt but looks like those are gonna need up to 900w and I have an 850

[viscid patrol]

How old is the PSU

Released in 2023 oh

[viscid patrol]

I would contact for cable RMA

PSU body says 10 year warranty
No idea what that covers but less than 2 years (presumably) and the wire insulation is already petrified is a bit crazy

[drowsy remnant]

I think I build the system in 21 at release of the 5600x

[viscid patrol]

huh google lied to me then lmfao
i'd still try to rma the cables first before buying anything

[blissful thistle]

nah you'd almost definitely be fine with a 9070xt

everything im seeing has it at 330w maximum for AIB models, not including power spikes

unless you've got a power hungry cpu like an i9, a good 850w like the gf1 is perfect

[drowsy remnant]

Could it just be the way they were sitting for 4 years? Or should they be totally flexible still? Like the “body of the wire is but both ends where the connectors are are very stiff and almost “stuck” in the position they were in on the board

[blissful thistle]

imo it can't hurt to RMA

worst they can do is say no

[viscid patrol]

4 years is a bit more understandable for cables to become petrified

though still kinda fast

[drowsy remnant]

Ok just got a 9800x3d but I don’t think that’s super power hungry

[blissful thistle]

nope youre good

120w and under in games

honestly probably fine with a good 650w lmao

330w on a gpu is very reasonable

[drowsy remnant]

Is that what I’m describing? A petrification of the cables?

[blissful thistle]

just depends what the transients are like, the 7900xtx had pretty high power spikes iirc

[viscid patrol]

yeah, that's what you normally call cables that have hardened with age

[drowsy remnant]

Does the whole cable normally harden? Or is it typical to just be the connector pieces? Honestly never had this happen so trying to learn from it

[viscid patrol]

it could have been the heat of the case that causes a specific part to harden more/faster than the others

[drowsy remnant]

Hmm it was in a lian li lian cool 2 mesh it was a pretty cool case. If it’s ok I’ll send you some pics of it when I get my daughter down for her nap. Bigger issue is they aren’t long enough to reach the GPU in the antec flux pro. (Maybe this is my doing?) but I had to like legitimately wrestle the 3 cables through the pass through and into the socket. Had 1 pathing choice basically and it’s causing quite a bit of bowing on the back of the case.

Again not sure if this part is me being tired and dumb (it was midnight when I was wiring it up) or if they legit aren’t long enough for the case and positioning

[viscid patrol]

some cases don't have a more convenient cable route path and may cause your runs to not be quite long enough, though idk if this is the case for you

[drowsy remnant]

I think a big issue is the bottom fans that came stock which is kinda limiting me from being able to fit the 3 cables through the bottom route

[drowsy remnant]

How bad is it for the cable to be sitting like this?

@viscid patrol

[viscid patrol]

should be fine

mght just be visible at worst

[drowsy remnant]

Ok cool just wanted to make sure I wasn’t gonna be dumb and torch it

[tawny oxide]

Does the MSI MAG A550BN support an HDD wire?

[viscid patrol]

hdd wire?

you mean sata?

[tawny oxide]

Yes. Sorry, million parts in front of me

Trying to add this HDD to wife’s pc

[viscid patrol]

it has 5 sata ports on the sata cable

[tawny oxide]

Isn’t there supposed to be 2 cables into the HDD?

Or just the one Sata port?

[viscid patrol]

psu includes the power cable

motherboard sometimes includes the data cable

else you may need to buy sata cables seperately

for example, my b450 tomahawk included 2 sata cables for connecting drives to the mobo

[tawny oxide]

@viscid patrol I’m a dummy
I put those cables in a box

I forgot it’s motherboard based

[viscid patrol]

💀

[exotic fog]

I just got a new pc but iam lost how to connect the power supply cables to the motherboard and case cables iam stuck if anyone is available to help me out on video call walkthrough whenever?

[wide parrot]

https://youtu.be/s1fxZ-VWs2U?si=NNNubsGiJttsmRFw

https://youtu.be/DC-Xn2C_L1U?si=PqEZIMWDl5a7-ge1

[coral bear]

New PSU Tier List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc

[serene siren]

^Pin pls

I just caught wind of this an hour ago

[blissful thistle]

That list is great

Wow

Asrock doing good again?

[long sphinx]

that list is crazy detailed

so cool that people put that together for everyone else to look at

[dusk galleon]

Was looking to get different PCIE cables for my GPU because the pigtails look kinda ugly, but I know you can't really mix and match from power supplies. Where would I find replacements?

[viscid patrol]

Cable extensions are usually the easy way to get rid of "ugly" cables

They work with any PSU, with the only caveat of extending your cables (so more cables need to be shoved into the PSU basement)

Also don't buy the cheapest extension available (🔥)

[dusk galleon]

The psu basement is pretty large

Id need to add another cable though

I'm currently running a 6 +2 with just pigtail, and another 6+2 with it's pigtail dangling

Unless an extension can plug into the pigtail?

[viscid patrol]

Hmm

[dusk galleon]

I know pigtails are kinda frowned upon for power delivery, buy mine seem to push the power needed just fine

[viscid patrol]

Nah, I use it too (though my GPU also isn't that crazy, only a 6750xt, I was too lazy to search for the other power cable)
Should be fine though, at least with lower wattage GPUs

I just found a dual 12vhpwr connector to 3x 8 pin if your PSU supports 2 12vhpwr lmao

[dusk galleon]

Nah lmao

Just 3 8 pin connectors

My PSU only came with the pigtail PCIE power cables sadly

Instead of single 8 pin cables

[dusk galleon]

Okay SO

Thermaltake makes their own extensions

And says they're compatible with all their psu models

So I guess that's my way out

[dusk galleon]

Damn they got long shipping times I'm dead

Wondering if anyone here has tried asiahorse? They seem too cheap to be good

[dusk galleon]

Also found 16AWG as well, good reviews

[elfin trout]

Asiahorse is okay, they had some 90 degree cables with issues iirc but most of their cables should be fine

[dusk galleon]

There any brands you recommend over asiahorse?

Or should I just go with them

[elfin trout]

The 16awg straight cables should be fine

Just don't go for fancy 90 degree or 180 degree adapters

[dusk galleon]

Yeah, I ended up with the straight 16awg black cables

[long sphinx]

I got a pair of white cable extensions from them for my first ever build I did in Summer 2023, they looked and worked great for me, I just struggled to make them look nice (bends and cable managing) but that was likely just because it was my first build

here was my build with the extensions, had to go find the pic

again it was a first build for me and it was a pretty small case and I suck with cable management, but the look and quality of them felt good to me

[dusk galleon]

Looks nice! My cables from them should arrive today

Just got all black, might as well keep a "theme" going

[wispy rapids]

Hi, please let me know sharing a link of a PSU for this
https://www.newegg.com/supermicro-mbd-h12dsi-n6-o-supports-amd-epyc-7003-7002-series-processors/p/N82E16813183795

[mellow dome]

God how little i know about server parts lol

[sand atlas]

That's a rather old model, but could still be useful for a business grade NAS or something else lighter duty

Any PSU that has the 24 pin connector should be compatible

You'd also need at least 2x 8 pin CPU/EPS connectors but that's most power supplies.

Get whatever fits your chassis and has enough wattage, it's all standardized.

[night ether]

Hey Can someone help me measure their case?

[cobalt nymph]

Is Corsair RM750e good? or should i get something else

i heard that it's a bit noisy

[blissful thistle]

Yes but it depends on price

[cobalt nymph]

about a 100 bucks

[mellow dome]

Thats the psu i have in my system, ive not had any problems with it

Generally the rest of your parts will probably beat out its noise anyway

And for 100 thats fine

[cobalt nymph]

alright thx mate

[karmic steppe]

what would be the best price for a great 750W psu?

im thinking around 80 but should i aim lower?

[blissful thistle]

Yeah abt 80

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zfGhP6/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii750g-bkcus

The 1000w is $110 if you feel like getting the extra headroom

[karmic steppe]

Nah, I doubt I'll go past even 700

Prob will touch 850W

[ember hound]

Ive heard they are some of the best, I’m looking at getting an 850

[cobalt nymph]

if im not mistaken theres a 850 one from corsair

i saw 1000 also

[visual fjord]

[long sphinx]

super late but mine can be noisy

eventually am going to replace it with probably a 1000w unit from someone else but for now it does the job

[cobalt nymph]

Is it really that noisy?

[long sphinx]

I think I recorded a video of it and sent it in here like 2 years ago

let me see if i can find it

oh wow I found it

@cobalt nymph ^

i have a dual chamber now and a louder gpu so its not as noticable to me really

[cobalt nymph]

Yeah same here probably wont notice it

[long sphinx]

I could of gotten a bad draw I doubt all were that loud

dont buy it from best buy tho

never buying best buy for tech ever again lol

[marble girder]

Should I wait for replacement PSU or spend $200 on an atx 3.1 power supply?

[icy cape]

What Is a good priced sfx power supply ideally around 850watt

[blissful thistle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MLWzK8/thermaltake-toughpower-sfx-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-ps-stp-0850fnfagu-1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wRfnTW/thermaltake-toughpower-sfx-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-ps-stp-1000fnfagu-1

[icy cape]

Thank you

[ember hound]

Id look at a Corsair Rm850X, I just bought one last night for my 3080 that is arriving within the next week or so

[sand atlas]

That's not sfx

Though I do agree it's a great PSU

(I own one)

[icy cape]

Already own one, it's in my pc but I need sfx psu for the one I'm building

[ember hound]

Ahhh

Doesn’t Corsair have a series that caters to that?

[icy cape]

Yes but like 250+ dollars for one

[sand atlas]

Yes but it's expensive

[icy cape]

The 850 bacca listed is same price as the 850 corsair I bought so I'm good with it

[ember hound]

Ah

[long sphinx]

@sand atlas wondering if you could help me further with this, talked with felix a bit about it a bit

just seems like ive had nothing but issues with stuff like this ever since I case swapped

felix mentioned it may be PSU related

[sand atlas]

41 just means it shut off when Windows wasn't expecting it to

Could be power, motherboard, other hardware, even software. It also throws those codes along with every blue screen.

[long sphinx]

i was midgame the other day and it shut off with no warning and no explaination

like idk what any of these are but there are so many

[sand atlas]

DCOM is nothing, everyone gets those

Device setup is also nothing, most likely just a driver that doesn't have the correct metadata

[long sphinx]

41 has to be my biggest issue rn then

[long sphinx]

my pc just shut itself off then back on midgame on marvel rivals on the 1st, the 2/28 was helldivers iirc, game just froze and did like the frozen loop audio glitch, then pc restarted

[sand atlas]

41 is also the least helpful code ever

[long sphinx]

well those dates and times i can correlate directly to me crashing in a game under load

so thats got to be my issues rn

[viscid patrol]

i would also guess psu

[long sphinx]

what would cause that

i have a corsair 750 RMe

[viscid patrol]

hmm

[long sphinx]

my 6950xt isnt spiking to trip it is it?

[viscid patrol]

well, it's not out of the question that it could be faulty lmao

[long sphinx]

it has been noisy ever since i got it tbh

aka coil whine

hold on i replied to a video i took of it like 2 years ago in there

@viscid patrol

that was when i had it with my 6700xt

now ive seen my 6950xt drawing over 300w, plus more rgb and an aio in my system

[viscid patrol]

that does seem a bit louder than usual

honestly there isnt really much you can do asides from RMA (or buy a replacement) to test if it fixes it, unless you have the tools to put a simulated load on the psu

(you would need multiple DC load generators)

[long sphinx]

i dont know what that is

so i am going to assume no

i do infact not have the tools lmao

honestly my birthday is coming up soon so i could ask for a new psu, i wanted a 1000w unit for more headroom anyway tbh

never liked my corsair unit ever since i got it, corsair keyboard i had before also kinda was meh

probably wont be buying their products in the future

[viscid patrol]

yeah im no fan of their pricing for their quality either

[sand atlas]

Oh only 750? I've tripped a RM850x with my 3080 ti at 300W, spikes are possible. Try a power limit to 250W (-16%).

[long sphinx]

I’ll play around with stuff when I get home, pretty sure lower power has caused some of my stuff to crash

My birthday is on the 12th so if I get any birthday money I’ll put it towards a 1000w unit 😎

The plan was to get a new PSU at some point anyway tbh

[blissful thistle]

Happy almost birthday

[long sphinx]

Ty I turn 20 not ready for the midlife crisis

[viscid patrol]

you're dying at 40?

midlife already?

💀

[blissful thistle]

2005 gang

[long sphinx]

With the way stuff is going we aren’t making it much further than that lmao

[long sphinx]

😎

[viscid patrol]

😔

[karmic steppe]

Is the ASRock challenger cl series fine for a PSU?

[sand atlas]

Gold is B tier, bronze is low C tier. Neither will blow up on you, but don't use a high end GPU with one

[karmic steppe]

So is a 6800xt fine then?

[sand atlas]

No

[karmic steppe]

Damnit

[sand atlas]

Well the 80+ gold model should be fine

But not bronze

[karmic steppe]

I have a cl850g gold

[sand atlas]

Ah that'll be OK then

[karmic steppe]

Cool. I'm not maxing it out anyway

Actually never mind I'll just get an A tier

Not risking anything

[sand atlas]

Tier lists are in the pins for reference when shopping around

I'd help pick but it's a pain on mobile

[sonic lake]

Is there a specific name for the cases that have the glass front and side? like if i wanted to search for that case style

like these

[tawny oxide]

Fishtank.

[sonic lake]

oh wow i thought you were joking...thanks! lol

[tawny oxide]

I kinda like how it’s called the fishtank style

It’s funny

[sonic lake]

Im basically obsessed now

Phanteks NV5 MK2 and the Lian Li 011 Dyanmic Evo are catching my eye

Ive been told something like the white one I posted has too many fans for something without water cooling and airflow is probably atrocious

so I will have to do more research on that aspect of it

But this just looks so good to me

[tawny oxide]

I like the Montech XR
I’m basic

[sonic lake]

granted that black one has $400 in fans

which makes me ill

[tawny oxide]

I just want a segotep gank 360

[sonic lake]

only three fans in the Montech, I assume that's more than enough?

that segotep is funky

just think this looks nice as well

not the color I would choose but still nice

this gpu cycle gonna bankrupt me and make my wife leave me

[wide parrot]

If you need more, a 3 pack of thermalright c12c is like $13

[sonic lake]

Anyone know why PCPartPicker says these arent compatible? It's a 360 and the site for the Phanteks nv5 MK2 says it supports a 360

specs from the site are within range as well

360 Radiator - 430x134x62mm top
360 Radiator - 412x130x62mm side

Dimensions
398 (L) x 120 (W) x 38 (H) mm

Or is it tied to the Motherboard

[viscid patrol]

i wonder if it's the tubing being too short?

(for front mount, you want the tubes on the radiator to be on the bottom ideally)

[sonic lake]

My understanding is top mount is best, that's my goal

[viscid patrol]

oh wait yeah top mount also was 360... hmmm

i wonder if it's an error in the system or smth

[sonic lake]

Would be nice if pcpartpicker actually elaborated

On the motherboard potential issues it actually says what the problem is

"The MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 7E12v1G. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU."

[viscid patrol]

normally they would but idk, i checked myself and it didn't say

[sonic lake]

yep mine is the same, i did some searching but cant find much

"The NV5 can accommodate 360mm AIOs in the side and top, the problem is that AIOs in those positions have a maximum thickness of 62mm, and the AF3 has a radiator with a non-standard 38mm thickness, plus 25mm fans for a total of 63mm."

Might just have to look at different AIOs

or diff case

[fierce pivot]

Sometimes pcpp has false positives

[fierce pivot]

That is it elaborating, but won't be an issue that motherboard has bios flashback so you can update it without an older cpu, although i wouldn't get that board either way tbh

@sonic lake also save like 110$ and just tet this for a 9800x3d... They're not hard to cool at all
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

[viscid patrol]

ah i figured it out
lf3 is 38mm thick on the radiator

but that doesnt include fans

fans are about 25mm thick

so it would be larger than the official max clearances on the case by 1mm

[serene siren]

'Ey they got it

Future/current techies u 2

[sonic lake]

i probably should, but it seems ive become a bit of an rgb enjoyer overnight

[long sphinx]

[fierce pivot]

There's an rgb version of the peerless assassin for a few $ more

If you really want an AIO thermalright make good ones for like 65$ or so

[tawny oxide]

MSI MAG PANO M100R.
How we feel about it?

[chilly path]

Any SFX/SFX-L PSUs with 12VHPWR built in?
Could also be 2×6

[serene siren]

Cheapest probs corsair SF/SF-L

If not atx 3.0/3.1 V SFX

But I wouldn't go with either

Go get a 2.0 one then a custom 12vhpwr cable for that psu, less 12vhpwr plugs involved then

Less risk of uber expensive pc melting for $20

[bleak holly]

How is this power supply unit?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BYB75CYX/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[chilly path]

Weirdly 3.0/3.1 SF/SF-L isn't really a thing here

[sand atlas]

B tier. It's a downgrade from the original A tier model.

[bleak holly]

What's the current psu tier list?

[neon walrus]

wtf are these cables that are bundled in the case for?

[elfin trout]

left and right look like usb 3.0? Although usually they make it blue. middle is usb 3.2/3.1 gen 2, usually for usb-c

[neon walrus]

Okok tysm, gotta figure out shi cuz it didn’t come with anything labeled ofc

[elfin trout]

check case manual, usually in the manual somewhere

[neon walrus]

I dunno where it went tbh

[elfin trout]

manufacturers like just not giving a physical manual and making you look on their website for the pdf nowadays lol

[neon walrus]

it’s so dumb

most stuff didn’t come with manuals except my motherboard

the online stuff sucks

[elfin trout]

it saves paper(money)!

[viscid patrol]

honestly

i prefer the pdf

i can just click ctr f and find whatever i need quickly

especially for something that you would only need once

or hell, you might not even need it

since it's a case

they're all more or less the same

[neon walrus]

I wouldn’t mind it as much if they provided both (and actually made proper manuals)

[neon walrus]

anyone awake :0

[sand atlas]

Yes

[neon walrus]

these are only needed for SATA or HDDs right?

also wtf is this used for

[sand atlas]

They can be used for other things like fan and rgb controllers, but traditionally yes those are for SATA and Molex (often PATA) drives

[neon walrus]

I shouldn’t need to use them tho no?

I do have the Corsair Commander

As well as some fans by Corsair

[sand atlas]

That's USB powered isn't it

[neon walrus]

So confusing

[neon walrus]

the node thingys are, but the controller isn’t

It’s got this stuff

[sand atlas]

Commander core XT?

If so then yes you will need SATA power to that

[neon walrus]

Yes

[open sinew]

rm750 for $50 or evga g3 850w for $60

both used

[serene siren]

RM

[sand atlas]

G3 imo

[open sinew]

hah

[serene siren]

WHOAG

[open sinew]

someone told the g3 was used for mining

[sand atlas]

Ikr I'm usually the corsair shill

[open sinew]

not sure why that would reall matter but

[serene siren]

What the hell happened to you

/jk

Oh G3 is better than I thought it was nvm

[open sinew]

i think if i go for the 850 theres a chance i can keep this psu when i upgrade again

[serene siren]

Fal is weiner

[sand atlas]

Extra 100W for $10 and still A tier

[serene siren]

Go G3

Yeah

[open sinew]

yeah thats what i was thinking too

gotta cancel on the other guy now lol

hardwareswap is an amazing place

[neon walrus]

can I daisy chain 2 3-sets of Corsair qx120 fans? There’s a small cable that has a connector to it :0 I wonder if it’ll jack up the data

[serene siren]

You'd have to check with jack first

[sand atlas]

Any fans that are in the chain will act like one fan in the software

Other than that it's probably fine

[neon walrus]

I mean there’s like a 90 degree cable that is flat that can hook from 1 to another

[neon walrus]

that should b fine tbh

[sand atlas]

The manual doesn't specify so keep the total amperage on a single header below 1A

[neon walrus]

I’ve got 2 sets of RGB PSU cables, LS430, and QX120 fans that I’m trying to clean up and setup together

then I’m finally done my build thank god lol

[neon walrus]

Hm?

[sand atlas]

The fans will say on them how much each uses

If each one is 0.16A or less then you can have 6 on a chain

[neon walrus]

Where do I see that at?

[sand atlas]

On the fan itself, usually on the back

Typically over the motor

[neon walrus]

Oh I see it

On the top

1.02A

[serene siren]

1A

TF

[neon walrus]

……

[sand atlas]

I really hope that's combining the fan and rgb

[serene siren]

FR

If that's just the fan then wtf

That makes them 20x less efficient than a P12 and I haven't even gotten to the performance part yet

Surely it's a combined rate for usb or something

[serene siren]

Is it usb???

Surely that's usb

Ain't no way it has enough amperage to max out one fan header

[neon walrus]

I’m not sure

[serene siren]

Does it have this:

[sand atlas]

Website is no help, specs also only say 1.02A

[serene siren]

Or this

[sand atlas]

And not how much goes where

[neon walrus]

No

[serene siren]

Ok so usb

[neon walrus]

I have that for the power for the hub it comes with

But it’s a micro usb to something

[sand atlas]

Documentation shows you can have 7 fans in one chain

[neon walrus]

can they be connected to each other tho? or they both separate have to be linked together on 1 hub

[sand atlas]

It says 7 can be chained

Which is connected through each other

I can't imagine using 84W just on my fans though. And it's taking that from the 12V shared with the CPU/GPU

[neon walrus]

Yeah that’s wild

There’s no way it’s yoinking that much power

[sand atlas]

It would only do so in certain circumstances

Probably 100% fan and all white LEDs

[neon walrus]

That’s wild

So it’s solid to daisy chain okok hmm

Do u know anything about that commander core xt stuff?

[sand atlas]

Not really

[neon walrus]

Stuff is so wack

[sand atlas]

But I do know those SATA power cables are rated for 75W typically lol

[neon walrus]

Dayum

So that’s more than the xt can handle???

My brain is so confused

[sand atlas]

Just don't run them at full speed

2500 rpm is going to get loud anyway

[neon walrus]

Damn

All that mulah n I can’t run em max

[serene siren]

Blame corsair for giving you fans that use as much power as some deltas lmfao

One thing is for sure is this was educational

I thought corsair got better with fans

Nope

Turns out they got worse

Anything outside of RS max is an obvious avoid now with power draw like that

It's like 10x more 12v than a c12c and like 20x more 12v than a p12 lol

[neon walrus]

Just wild

[serene siren]

Genuine suggestion, can you return them? Reason is that's just an insane amount of power if you ramp them up

9 of those is a supposed 100W

That's a whole cpu worth of power

If you find your pc shutting down under load one day, suspect the fans immediately

100W is a LOT

We don't account for that in psu recommendations because it's never that high

[neon walrus]

I mean I do have a Kw PSU so I have extra room

I don’t know tbh

These are pretty common to be empty right?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[neon walrus]

Ty homie

[neon walrus]

What’s the best 6 pin to 6 pin cable to get to power my fans

[neon walrus]

:((

Also what’s the best way to hookup these rgb lights by corsairs LS130 and PSU power light cover :0

[wide parrot]

Fans are usually powered from the motherboard headers

For the RGB, if it isn't a normal mobo header plug I would read the specific documentation for it

[neon walrus]

This is Corsair qx130 which are connected to a hub thing

I’m not sure why but supposedly it gets power then

goes straight to the PSU I think

[wide parrot]

Hub should either have a remote and get power from likely a SATA power connector, or connect to the mobo

[viscid patrol]

it uses the pcie cable

[neon walrus]

it seems to have a connector for the PSU

[sand atlas]

Yep we were just discussing that in DMs

[neon walrus]

With this connected poking out

[wide parrot]

Oh I see

Does your PSU not have any extra 6pin cables?

Or 6+2

[sand atlas]

There's 2 types of PCIe cables on the PSU

Two single 8 pin cables (no 6) and one that splits into 2x 6+2 cables

I think the one that splits uses the 12VHPWR plug which is kinda funny and kinda genius

https://a.co/d/4BGHlpa

[neon walrus]

Sadly no, weirdly enough idky

[sonic lake]

Anyone have any opinions on the NZXT H6 Flow?

[blissful thistle]

Overpriced but there's worse cases

I forget if its the regular version or rgb, but one has bad stock fans

[sonic lake]

How do you quantify 'overpriced' when there's basically thousands of case options?

[blissful thistle]

Theres cases that are just as good for $60-70

Montech xr or king 65 pro are cheaper with a similar aesthetic

Among others

[sonic lake]

Those cases seem much smaller

difference of $20 too