#cases-psu-and-cooling
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yeah
I forget the name I wanted one lmao.
i dont remember the name either
Issue was I have pets and my gosh the price was obnoxious.
i didnt really want one because i try to avoid open air cases so i dont need to do as much maintenance lmao
$2k MSRP and even more realistically because it was out of stock and people scalped it.
Non-standard smol do be like that
Meshroom S is a PITA to work in
This is how I imagine you as when you get excited
Or are hyper
What are some unusual and unique cases as of late that are good for water or air cooling?
Ideally not just another box.
I really don’t care how it looks, as long as it fits my requirements, has good thermals, and no glass.
The shoe
?
The new Be Quiet Light Base 900 is interesting albeit a box but at least a unusual box.
Oh it literally is a shoe lmfao.
What did you think shoe meant
Thought you were telling me to use my shoe as a PC case.
For a raspberry pie of smth
Can’t go wrong with shoe
Maybe something a little more normal? I really like some cases like that Shark Case, TT Tower 900, TT Helicopter, Cougar Gemini X, Fractal Torrent (My current case), Fractal Design.
I like more geometric cases that still serve function.
Tower 300 that's about it
Z20 maybe?
If you mean like unique but normal that's a really hard question
I think only the tryx comes to mind
And that's not worth recommending
More like a beta test than a unique case
Montech XR
The Tower300 is neat if only it weren't so small.
Z20 was decent. Montech XR felt too generic. TRYX was okay? Some just felt like a more bare bones enclosed chasis.
Unique/Unusual but functional.
Both the 300 and Z20 are functional
Hmmm
Oh the antec wood series is a bit unique
Most of those are good if you stick to sub $110
It's a bit unique
It won't be in a year
Oh sup01
Sup01 is very unique
Probably one of the most unique this year but still conventional size
I don't think anything really tops that this year
For case budgets, about $300 is where I cap out. I don't mind paying extra for a genuine quality case.
I simply don't recommend beyond $110 unless there's a really particularly good reason
So the answer is I don't have another suggestion.
Fair. I am willing to spend more but always prefer spending less.
The Sup01 is somewhat interesting.
I don't like spending unnecessarily anymore
The GPU is front mounted?
The gpu is indeed front mounted
Upright riser mount
Aio behind mobo
Ssd's under a mirror below the mobo
It's unique
I nearly bought one but I managed to fix my loop so decided not to
Between this and the dan A3 I wouldn't touch anything else from lian li tho rn
Those two functionally are interesting
Why I am particularly interested in getting another pc case is that, once I upgrade my GPU and PSU I will have all the extra parts needed minus a case and ssd for another pc system.
Yeah I really can't think of any other unique cases
Do you know of some nice pc cases that are more geometric, curved/angled glass, and or meant to have the mobo flat.
For some reason I always loved how the Cougar Gemini X looked when it was placed sideways.
Sup01 is probably the most odd that's within the realm of reason
King65/king95 probably
Oh flat mobo
No
Light base 900 was mentioned earlier and vetoed, that's a non standard layout now
And i know like 3 cases that do that and I don't really agree with any
.
Main reason being the glass can't support anything
Glass?
Oh that's what you mean.
It's highly impractical in turn for a different layout
Yeah I have kinda given up on the space aspect when I started buying cases like my Fractal Torrent haha. I usually buy massive 2-3M L shaped desks now.
And this is where I deviate lol
I've been sizing down
I can fit everything I had in my O11 inside my Dan A3 with no losses
I would love to have a mobile pc for travels but I have yet to find a small portable pc that is very expandable feature wise.
In fact my performance improved
Ideally I would like to get into custom loops at some point in the near future (for aesthetics).
How big of a pain?
Isn't it just an refillable AIO?
with a lot more points for leaking.
Like if you have even something slightly wrong it's the equivalence of disassembling a normal pc several times over and no
If you're obsessed with messing with a computer it's an easier pill to swallow
Big numbers fun performance
But if you want a daily functional pc they can be pure cancer
Tech has reached the point where water cooling makes basically no sense anymore anyways
The last bastion was intel's cpus
Those have been remedied now
I do like messing with my computers but I also like them functional and visually pleasing (I know I am picky in this regard).
Understandable.
Just tell you to turn back ye green soul lmao
How often do do maintenance on your loops?
I use low maintenance loops which are a 6 monthly thing
Something you plugged in, maybe something loose, or maybe the paste isn't giving that perfect temps you like anymore
I'm being pedantic here but it's really barely any better than an aio for wayyy more work and that comes from someone with two low maintenance builds
The aesthetics aren't worth it lol
Yikes. Yeah I'd gonna have to give it a deep think over before doing any loops.
I stress this point btw, low maintenance loops
I use zmt, no uv or coloured liquid
Low turnover mix
I make the effort to avoid maintenance
But back onto the topic, the SP01 looks interesting though I prefer more geometric cases. Good example would be like my Torrent, Cougar Gemini X or the Hyte Y60. Neither feel like yet another box.
Y60 is terrible
So are the accompanying Y70 and Y40 these days
I'm gonna defeat that train of thought now lol
Aight, no Y60
Not enough gpu ventilation to make them worth it at all
Any of them
I got not much a bearing on that cougar case and the torrent is old news
I still can't really think of another like, out there case
One worth it anyway
There's always unique for any price
Maybe corsair 2000D?
Ideally a pc case with a really nice clean interior so I can get fans that focus on performance rather than aesthetics. Yes I of all people the ARGB fanatic is considering minimal lighting.
Less rgb is immensely less painful in anything pc building
That is compounded when you add liquid cooling btw
I felt that one for sure.
Daisy Chaining 12 ARGB fans and making sure the wires didn't stick out like a sore thumb when the wires were to short to reach the motherboard was a complete nightmare
2000D
Maybe fractal terra?
Terra is one of those few exceptions
It's very small tho
Fractal era, north
I just remembered those
But north isn't unique per se
Era is tho
Era is very unique
2000D is way to small, I need to be able to fit an ATX board, 360 AIO, and however gigantic the 5090/5080 will be.
Unless hmm. I use the new case for my secondary system which is mATX.
Era is indeed interesting
ATX is a dying breed
Most boards now ship with x1 lane wiring on subsequent slots
Regardless of the slot size
So the benefits of using ATX have just about disappeared
That's unfortunate.
mATX is starting to take the fore, and we have a whole generation now with solid budget mATX
It mainly existed in the first place for multi pci/e input, now all of that is integrated/sunset so
Do mATX come with a lot of nvme slots?
I go through a lot of storage and need fast storage.
Itx can ship with 3 slots now
Wow.
I remember getting 2 being a pain in the ass.
I had tried to go the mATX/ITX path on AM4.
Settled on a low end mATX AM4 to make the 5700G I won work.
I would keep things simple personally, the matx route and a Dan A3 is impressively competent
I have room for a 5090 if they go a slot bigger again
Dan A3 has that much space?
Got a full 13TB system in there yes
It's basically atx, but shorter board and not a stupid waste of psu space
And thus, matx and small af
It builds on the sama quzao/jonsbo concepts from earlier on
Which also build on the Dan A3's concept as well (twist of irony)
i made a reddit post about my case selection https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1hcp5i1/best_matx_case_for_airflow/
i really need help deciding
Someone gave me the idea of just getting an ATX case like https://www.newegg.com/black-gamemax-meshbox-pro-bk-atx-desktop/p/N82E16811445062?item=
but i kinda wanna use a mATX case for the compact and experience
Ah yeah i know that one
Hmm for my next cpu upgrade I will probably try mATX.
I don't feel like wasting money and buying a case that would require me to also buy a new motherboard.
Objective best of all of them is honestly dan a3 if it can fit your air cooler
Since you're not worried about looks
Low range matx slaps if you shop smart
Off topic but my gosh this is gorgeous.
How much do you think a quality mATX board costs that supports 4 NVMe slots and for a 7950x3D/8950x3D if they release that?
3 would be the minimum for me.
its just a bit thicker
10"
compared to others at 8"
Is that a bad thing?
Drive Usage:
- OS/Quick Access
- Games
- Work & Video Storage
- Cold Storage
Won't fit?
You can definitely consolidate this or use sata
i wanna fit it in a suitcase
Then do better cos I'm over here on 3 
I am not going back to Sata for games again. And for work, Sata is noticably slower.
10" will fit but it kinda pushes it, id prefer some room for clothes to pad the case on the sides.
my NR600 was 10" but basically took the entire luggage space
preferabbly cheaper but send ur ideas
OS drive ends up corrupting to often for me to want to store anything important on there from when I tune my RAM and CPU.
Just thinking cos the fractal terra is good for this
Z20 also has a mesh version coming
You can buy the mesh side panel for $15 on aliexpress
Is that a good size?
If it is my vote for Z20
Z20 fits full length gpus in a 21L with matx, very rare
and handle
I don't recall the tower compatibility tho
Ye
fractal terra is miniitx btw

I just gave my little brother my 3070TI, so im waiting for a new gpu
Ok question
How long is the psu
It's important
Cos CH160 might also be an option if you're not in the US
probably a thermalright gf3
Or CH170
Mmm 150 too long for z20
Mmmm
150 knocks a couple of these out
Im01 gone, z20 gone, ch160/170 gone
154mm air cooler
Talking the psu
150mm is intrusive on those
The bigger ones do 150mm atx no issue
The smaller ones though want a 140mm atx
And this is a hard requisite in these cases otherwise the gpu straight up won't fit
Ah
but atx kinda is better quality for lowest cost
also if i want 1000w, a sfx is kinda scary
Yeah if you stay 140mm then you should be ok
Ch170 is considerable here
So is ch160
Oh but 14600K owned?
Wait
Z690i strix is cheap
Yeah this could work
Need to double check
Rip it was
Lmao
Hmmmm
Yeah Z20 @acoustic goblet
It's just so easy to think about
The tower fits, you can buy mesh
Atx psu fits (you'll likely only need 750 or 850)
Matx is fine
Good thermals
Full size gpu compatibility
Handle and small packing size for full hardware
Makes the most sense to me for your objectives
currently owned: 14600k, mATX mobo, Air Cooler, SSD, Ram
I couldn't find the official one
I know there's an official mesh version coming tho
Jonsbo themselves confirmed it
the mesh side panel official is here https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-05GF-00015
Damn they haven't even released yet
Man if I wasn't already swapped over to dan A3 I'd have liked that
I was debating the normal one but I couldn't commit to it cos the glass side panel would've been against the wall (left hand side)
Ah well
so really its either A3 for a bit wider of a case
or Z20 for a thinner case
lemme check how well a 10" wide case would fit
naw i need the 8" case
Introducing the Thermaltake Tower 300 Summer Edition in Matcha Plum and Peach Fuzz. This Micro-ATX case is designed for performance and aesthetics, featuring two pre-installed 140mm CT fans and support for radiators up to 420mm. The case includes three 3mm thick tempered glass panels, providing a...
I need a reason to get this

Kinda looks like a resin 3d printer
Yes
Sadly too big
How come mini itx cases are made with better ventilation that micro ATX
Like bruh Corsair 2000D is perfect
But only works with ITX and SFX
Mini itx is typically considered premium
While matx is usually either "normal" or budget
Lookup the Sama im01 tho
i have
i think im going with the jonsbo z20
it costs $45 + $13 for a mesh sidepanel
i should probably buy an aio ngl
it would be better to do a 240mm aio at the top with a 120mm intake on the side
wouldnt this be kinda fire
ill probably use my air cooler and just have it intake from that back 120mm
I love how huge it is honestly
I just wish the top wasnt plastic
if it werent gonna be moved in a suitcase then i would definitely consider
What
Oh i wasnt talking to you lmao
I just wanted the case
Does that support ATX psu? Or does it need sfx
Supports up to 180mm ATX psu
recommends 140mm tho
but most psus are 160mm
Huh ok
the Corsair Rm850x Shift might be cool to use
the psu cables come out of the side instead of bottom
It absolutely won't fit if you do that 
You want 140 or you cut off your max GPU length
what psu u reccomend?
it actually says 150mm
but like a maximum gpu length of 280mm is still hella high
The Gigabyte Windforce OC cards are like 260mm
So found this online, a 16cm psu
the corsair rx850m shift is the same exact size
now my question is how much space there is for cables on the side
or theres the corsair rm850e
Ah, I knew it was short, my bad
See where that metal panel is on the right covering up half the gf1 label?
That's where the rmx shift plugs are

A850GL might be good
Check that one out
It's better than RMe
Just for context
That's vetted by aris, the guy that like 80% of the psu tier list works off of
pcie 5 one?
Yep
$90
How long
140mm
That'll work
8800XT won't be 3x8
But odds are there will be a number of long AMD cards so keeping that gpu compatibility open is a big plus
Like XFX for example
well also a smaller psu = more cable room and airflow
If you can check out vetroo gv1000 too, I believe they have a compact white psu under 120
That's a good one if you want white
$120
oh u said 120
I think you'd be all ok with 750W personally, but a good 1000W goes a long way if your parts are mostly white
Ah
mesh sidepanel
Then yeah A850GL tbh
i dont give a shimber mi timbers about how it looks
Lmfao
Ok well, only other thing would really be ram height
why?
Other than that any recent card will fit
Elevates the front fan if you want it at the front
The ez(studios) solution is to just stick the front dual tower fan at the back
Use one less fan
But worth consideration for your budget
If they're tall sticks, like not typical LP, that should be noted
the max cooler height is 164mm
Yes
my Phantom Spirit is 154mm
Yes
that gives me like 10mm of room to push fan a lil higher
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Ok you're good then
decently short
Ok we all sorted then
Z20 sounds like the winner
Heads up tho
Cable management in these tiny boxes is a bit of a pita
i dont need cable management
You kinda do
If you close it all up without running the cables properly in cases like this the cables jam up the fans
its gonna look like this hell

Cleeeee
thankgod the jonsbo z20 comes with a gpu support bracket
that hanging psu is kinda scaring me ngl
But yeah they have cable channels, just make sure to use them and run the cables pretty well
well when i put it in a suitcase i will have it learning on the motherboard side to let gravity keep it in place
It's secured by like 8 screws it'd need to be dropped out the air lock to break
Lmfao
In fact
I would actually like to suggest
An aio
ID-COOLING FX240 PRO
will a FX240 PRO be good enough for a 14600k and possible future ventures?
FX PRO series has had the best thermal tests out of any cooler
Good working example of this, many 450W+ cards on aios are 240mm, they almost all run issue free
The 240mm is not a concern
It's just heat capacity really
So yeah you'll be fine
ill probably use the air cooler to start with
then upgrade when i feel the need
swapping a cooler is easy
I dig the air cooler tbh but for moving in a plane I'd worry with that
Especially the way people jam their stuff in luggage compartments
Idk, I am normally money first but I feel the insurance of an aio is worth
Ahhh
Ok I'm less worried then
but it does sit under a bus
hence im swapping the front panel to a mesh instead of glass
the suitcase does have all my clothes in it too for padding
Yeah fair enough
i literally brought a nr600 home one time
Yeah I've driven around with pc cases no problems
Planes are a whole different beast tho so glad that's clarified
Well to me this sounds all really firm, I'd commit to it
You won't do better with matx than z20
It's amongst the best for size saving
Along with like the mechanics master 20 (26?)
Really really small
Jonsbo quality is also excellent too btw
I would stack it higher than lian li in my experience
Prepare to be a little surprised lol
ngl
might even slap a portable monitor on that thing
then i got an all-in-one
imagine a cool usb-c 16" screen on it
need to decide between the two psus
@serene siren PSU Cultists have Vetroo GV1000 as A-Tier for their next planned revision.
Nice
It's a good one yeah
I use aris tho, I haven't used the list in years
Gotta go
✌️
psu tier list is a lil outdated
some links lead to the revised psus which are actually worse
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T27bh7 GPU is just a placeholder
Part List - Intel Core i5-14600K, GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, Jonsbo Jonsplus Z20 MicroATX Desktop
Solid. Love it.
Ye that's part the reason but also Aris gives far better detail
He also doesn't use ranks or tiers which can be really objective
He grades them by %
So one or the other can be a few % better... they're basically about as good as each other
What PSU would you guys recommend? Is Titanium or Platinum ratings worth considering since my PC is also used as a server.
To power a 7950x3D + 5090
Paying an extra $40+ for 2% additional power savings is not worth it in the slightest
We don't know what the 5090 will need yet, it could require dual 12V-2x6 according to rumors
Doesn’t Corsair RM1000e have dual 12V?
No
Yeah I just did the math. Assuming $30 a month, in 10 years of life it would only save me maybe $70
And that's assuming it runs at full tilt for 10 years straight
I plan to purchase a PSU on sale come holiday sales. What +1200W PSU would you recommend?
I'd certainly hope that 1,000W would be enough but just in case some overhead would make me feel a lot better.
I'll run on the assumption that the rumors are true and you'll need dual plugs. This has one native and one 8 pin adapted cable. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9LB2S1Q?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
Designed to meet the ever-increasing power demands of high-performance graphics cards, the REVOLUTION D.F. X power supply series is fully compatible with Intel ATX 3.0 ,and features one native PCIe Gen 5 12+4pin (12VHPWR) cable supplying power to the ultra-high performance next-gen graphics cards...
Aren’t those multi rail
RGB is good tho, extra fps
Huh
THEY FINALLY GAVE A NEW UNIT!
they said no to a new one from the first warranty claim, then after the refurb died within the 3 month period, they gave a new one?!?!
So what am i supposed to get? New or used????
????
Well least it'll last maybe
RMA is whatever they have in stock
they ususally try to get rid of refurb units first
i assume they are out of refurbed units to RMA so they gave you a new unit
and if they dont have a refurb or new unit assuming you're still in warranty, then they'll give you an equivalent unit
That's how I got upgraded from X470 to X570, MSI didn't have any in stock.
Cases shipping overseas is a bit risky just by nature of shipping
The seller themselves is probably fine but there's always the chance that the shipping crate falls over or the box gets thrown across the room or something
The longer the distance it ships the more of that risk there is
Or somebody's mother sits on it and flattens it like a hydraulic press
Bros got past experience
Is AliExpress good with refunding for physical damage?
I found a $35 Jonsbo z20 that ships from the US
I just found this on AliExpress: $84.14 | To Z20 MATX Computer Case Portable Mini ATX PC Case For MATX/240 Water Cooling Desktop Chassis Support 363mm Graphics Card
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqQbmnV
Don't think I know anyone who can assure for that part of it
Just make sure you buy from a seller who's sold a lot of that item and has good reviews
Considering the box they usually ship in that's probably about as much as we can say is it should be alright
Im just afraid cause the title doesn’t list Jonsbo at all
But the pics are obviously Jonsbo
And the title says Z20
This is what has me thinking try another seller
Shipping from china is expensive af for large items
Not bad considering your constraints imo
Well there’s like $50-$60 alternatives
If they fit yeah?
IM01?
IM01 isn't quite as good thermally but size is very comparable
This might be considerable @acoustic goblet https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806254181875.html
Highest sale count, reviews seem ok
Ehhh $70 + $10 for a side panel
Ngl at that price imma just get a A3
Its a lil smaller and 10mm wider
i thought you were talking about a3 paper lmao
which is like double the size of a4
Hello Everyone- Hoping to get some recommendations for a great 1000W Gen5 PSU to go with my black and Red Hyte Y70 touch.
guys what kind of cases would fit a Arctic freezer 3 420 best to put it on the top to have enough space basically and a good cheepish airflow case
First, what cpu are you using?
Almost any scenario the 360mm would be just as good as give you more case options
Speaking from experience, even cases that claim 420mm AIO support often don't fit the 420 liquid freezer
The tubes and radiator are much thicker than average, which is part of how they get such good cooling
420mm AIO and cheap case does not compute in my brain.
any recs for <140mm or sfx 850w psus?
SFX power supplies use different mounting than ATX, which does your case use?
bothj
Lian Li Dan A3
i seems like all the psus available are high price rn
maybe i should wait for a sale
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 was like $80 a few days ago
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X this
360mm is fine for that unless you're overclocking it and planning on making it use 300W
The 360mm can handle 250W no sweat
Thermalright/ID Cooling 360mm will have zero issue with a chip like that
Even some tower coolers now
Granted yeah, avoiding going nuts with the OC
Hello, doing a new build for my son on a Sevenhero EMBL panoramic Micro ATX tower, with an MSI Pro H610M-G WiFi MB. Everything is up and running except the LEDs on the fans. The case has an LED button and an LED SW plug that I connected to JRGB at the bottom right of the MB but lights still don’t turn on
I don't think there's a manual online for that case, so you will have to check for any physical manuals for the case, but my guess is that the argb on the fans are powered by a hub somewhere in the case that's either sata or molex
That looks almost identical to my Montech case's front IO
You don't plug that LED SW into the motherboard, that's for a standalone controller so it cycles through the lighting modes without software control. You risk short circuiting if you plugged that into the board.
If the case has a cable like that, I'm guessing it also came with a controller to plug it all into, and that controller is going to need power, usually SATA.
If it doesn't have a controller then that button will be useless, but you can still use it as a reset button or clear cmos button if you plug it into the right spot.
Thank you, I got the lights to work eventually and yes that cable wasn’t used. There is some MSI software that controls the lighting. And I didn’t see a controller
guys , i have a bad laptop battery calibration, how can i fix it ?
Use it till 0 and recharge till full
I am looking at Power Supplies for a 7950x3D + 5090 combo.
In the category of 1200w power supplies so far I have been looking at these 3 options.
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$159 BeQuiet BN513
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CBP3C2S9/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1? -
$149.95 (Amazon Renewed - Excellent) Corsair RM1200x Shift
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM1200x-Shift-Modular-Supply/dp/B0DD5TWT1L/ref=mp_s_a_1_9? -
$149.99 ENERMAX Revolution D.F. X 1200W
https://www.amazon.com/ENERMAX-Revolution-Connectors-Japanese-Capacitors/dp/B0C9LB2S1Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?
80 PLUS® Gold efficiency (up to 93.7%) , ATX 3.0 PSU with full support for PCIe 5.0 GPUs and GPUs with 6+2 pin connectors, Exceptionally silent 120mm be quiet! fan , Advanced stability and voltage regulation thanks to LLC technology , 2 strong 12V-rails , Modular cables for maximum build flexibil...
CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series fully modular power supplies boast a revolutionary side cable interface to keep all your connections within quick reach, for exceptionally convenient 80 PLUS Gold efficient power. With fully modular micro-fit connections and ATX 3.0 compliance, RMx SHIFT makes clean PC bu...
Designed to meet the ever-increasing power demands of high-performance graphics cards, the REVOLUTION D.F. X power supply series is fully compatible with Intel ATX 3.0 ,and features one native PCIe Gen 5 12+4pin (12VHPWR) cable supplying power to the ultra-high performance next-gen graphics cards...
Rmx is the best
Also d.f2 is $130 not $160 for me
Oh bc that's the d.f x not the 2
Gotcha, so go with the refurbished RM1200x Shift then?
Don't need 1200W
850W will cover it honestly
Max 1000W
Invest in safety not capacity
I can even do the math on this
750W max transient on a 4090 at an unrealistic 600W limit
+the 162W of a 7950X3D
Account for up to 50% transient
990W max on both
A 1000W even with aux power will cover it easily
1000W is usually for the 12V rail
So it'll cover that
Good 1000W is enough
Thanks for helping as always.
Do you think the deal Bacca posted is good enough?
Plus power supplies (usually) are set to not trip until 120-140% max load
That Leadex V is an example of an exception to this rule, treat it like an 850W
Ahh ok.
They set OCP to 100%
This is technically fine
GV1000 I believe is better
Yeah it is
RMx tier
Btw guys I bring good news.
It's the leadex v series in general according to the tier list but they've been wrong/confused before
Starting tomorrow I can finally use regular Amazon and Newegg again.
Get this
You probably still won't get free shipping but at least you'll be in the US
Prime doesn't mean always free
We also don't always suggest amazon
Been a loyal customer for too long haha. Mostly because they have always done a good job at delivering on time and handling returns no questions asked in my own experience.
Irregardless we will still not always suggest amazon so doesn't mean much at all
The best deal is the best deal
Regardless of Amazon
Not necessary but I would like to try custom cables at some point. Will that limit my PSU options?
Nope
Fair.
Oh by the way you'll have a whole new set of PC problems to worry about, like dirty power, brown outs, and ambient static from the cold environment
I recommend a good UPS
Dirty power?
105V instead of 110, that kind of thing
It happens when you're far from the power station
I am not moving to northern Alaska to be clear.
Moving to either Anchorage or Palmer.
Yeah I figured it wouldn't be the tundra
But even on the southern coast these are issues they have
Understood.
Pardon my ignorance. What is a UPS? Is it something I plug my computer into before I plug it into the wall like a tripper of some sort?
Uninterruptible power supply
Battery backup basically
But a good one will clean up any power issues before they're a problem for sensitive things like your PC
Lmao you certainly are pushing that Z20 on me. I might buy a Z20 to assemble a server PC with now after I get these new parts.
How much does one cost?.. this sounds expensive.
$150-ish
Because it fits in a suitcase
It fits with an included gpu holder
Like it makes complete sense if you intend to travel lmao
You can check your voltage at various points during the day before you make the purchase to see if you can anticipate problems. Also ask the locals how often the power goes out.
Will do.
I doubt it can be worse than the bloody almost daily outages I have had to put up with for weeks at a time in MX.
Just to confirm, @serene siren is this the right PSU? If so I will purchase it once I land in Alaska later.
Also do you think this will run the 7950x3D + 5090 hopefully with a bit of headroom for a upgrade to an 9950x3D?
I gotta go
See y'all later.
Ye
Okay so I'm actually looking at getting replacement fans now that I'm ordering a few things, any recommendations? Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoon is like $30 per fan now.
I have a 240mm DeepCool Mystique with loud fans and I need a replacement for a front fan, so a pack of 3-5 wouldn't be bad (two rad fans, exhaust, two intake)
I think these AIO fans are also kind of stupid lol
Don't seem to cooperate with any software other than DeepCool's where I can't actually change any curves
Do all type 4 Cables work with all type 4 corsair psu's ? Or is there any limitations?
Yep that's exactly how it works
Here's the full rundown https://www.corsair.com/us/en/s/psu-cable-compatibility
Type 4 works on RM, RMe, RMx (excluding Shift), HX, HXi (2022 refresh), AXi, and original SF models
alright thanks, I had asked about this a few years ago but wanted to refresh so i dont make a mistake 😭
Type 5 has come out since then so it's always good to double check 👍
also one more thing just to clarify on, Do all branded type 4 work with each PSU? or only corsair with corsair
That gets more complicated since Corsair technically rebrands units from other manufacturers, but for the sake of safety it's recommended to only use cables designed for corsair units specifically on a corsair power supply
This can include custom cables made with corsair in mind
I'm looking to replace a burned out Seasonic Focus PX-750 and the local microcenter has MSI Mag A750GL, would that be a decent replacement?
Yep
Thank you
Hi everyone- With the rumored leaks and PCIe 5.0 support for RTX 5090. Will a 1000W Gold be enough with AI overclocks?
Would not recommend using any AI overclocking tools at the moment they're all just predefined v/f curve with a little bit of offsetting, but I'd also wait until we get reviews before deciding
5090 might draw more power than expected or it might draw less, it could spike more than expected or spike less, can't know until it comes out
With higher rating like Gold plus and ATX 3.1, it should be enough for those huge spikes right?
Gold plus...?
The atx 3.1 standard itself barely changes anything, it's just the new connector that currently only Nvidia is using
The tripping from spikes from the 20 series era was because of how OCP was configured on those PSUs and how 20 series had much higher sub 20ms spikes
Sorry 80 Plus Gold
The 80 plus standards can only tell you a little bit about the efficiency of the PSU, nothing else
I'm asking now cause I'll more than likely build my PC before the GPU comes out so I hate to have to replace then.
Just looked up my PSU order and I have a Holiday return extension till February so I should be safe to start building. Now just hoping for a more efficient GPU.
What do you have right now?
Corsair RM 1000x
It'll work well for now, we'll just have to see how the 5090 turns out
Thank you Sir. Really hoping it's enough. A 1000W PSU is a huge difference from just a few years ago. I could have never imagined needing anything over 850W for just gaming
I decided to just swap out to 1500W PSU. Reason is because a top end 4090 build already recommends a 1000W. So I can only imagine needing more for the next generation with some OC.
I opted for Corsairs HX 1500i 
Might need to switch it to single rail if it ever trips the multi rail ocp
Single rail?
PSUs supply power using rails for voltages
Some psus use multiple rails for certain power types
HXi has a toggleable multirail/single rail switch
Meaning it has multiple 12v rails
Multi rail can be really annoying if you don't load balance properly
You can basically trip part of the psu and shut the system down but only part of it cos that rail was running out of spec
OK Thank You, I'll look for YoutTube Videos on how and learn more about it
I don't think you'd need a new psu here
Cos a 9800x3d is only like 110W max
I would not expect a 5090 to use over 900W
I don't? but a 4090 already recommds 1000W
The tdp is 600W for reference
The recommendation is a blanket statement
You can run a 4090 off a 750W if you know what you're working with
My build does have lots of RGB and PCIe Gen 5
Well lots of extras may play into it
Depends if the psu has a single rail to the advertised spec or not
Some psus allow up to the PSUs advertised amount on just 12v parts
Not all
Some add the 5v and 3.3v to that limit
So you get much less wattage for the unit
I don't know, I just don't want to have to worry about needing more when I start messing around and OC'ing
Plus next Gen GPU's always tend to draw more power
Next gen is ada refresh
Ada is voltage dependent
Vrel perfcap
It won't be power hungry unless they don't give it nearly enough voltage
Since reference spec is single 12vhpwr I doubt it'll be more than 750W on aibs
Still much we don't know so I just rather be ready for it and not have to swap then
But to that same point
Also this should future proff any Upgrades for me down the line
You don't know if it needs way more either
And no you should replace your psu within every 7 years or so
That's what my tought process was until I saw 4090 Power consumption. I'm currently using 850W for my 3090 and I thought going to 1000W was crazy
4090 power is a nominal 525W overclocked with peaks slightly higher
If a 5090 reference board is 1x12vhpwr then the board is limited to 675W max
By spec restriction
But then I have to account for everything else on my build
You really should wait instead of early investing
Unfortuantely I'm not really able to wait. I'm drawing the fund from my Crypto gains this year and I highly doubt it will stay this high
They were saying this about the 4090 until like the last week before the announcement then the tdp claims dropped by 25%
All the early cards were designed for 600W then last minute they manage to drop it to 350-450W
I would wait
I would if I could, but knowing myself I'll end up spending it on something even if its loans
Anyways, i think I'll stick with 1500W. Not just for this build but for future upgrades
Well your call ig
Wouldn't the answer be just sell like $3,000 or so of your crypto when it's back to 100,000 in like a week then buy the parts when they are out
The most annoying thing I hate about doing the same thing 2 years ago is that these large psus fit in like only 5 cases
So changing my aesthetic is basically almost impossible
lol if it ever does get back to 100K
And I never needed this much power
Yeah it is
It fits literally in like only 10 cases
Standard is 160 iirc
With long ones beig 180
The long corsair one anyway
1600i is honestly not even that pedestal stuff anymore
By spec no
AX1600i is really long, 200mm, I think HXi is long but not as long, 180mm
Axi is still good but way overkill for anything
It's an old design
180mm fits in most cases still
I don't believe they ever updated it
My large o11 would like a word
AXi hasn't been updated yea, HXi has though
That's without connectors tho

Like it's 180mm without connections
depends on case implementation but usually it's not like we have drive cages in the bottom now
It becomes a nightmare when you realise this
It's gonna be 190-200 with cables
it's just the brackets
Lol
Now for reference the AX1600i is 200mm long
WITHOUT connectors
My P2 fills almost the entire length of the back of an o11 evo
It's a monolith
With connectors on it fills the entire length
Lol
Along with having a noisy fan
Hybrid or not
But fr the evo is one of the largest cases for fitting a psu
Not much else fits 180mm
NGL that's one of the things I dislike with a lot of PSUs
The fans are so bad
Like they're gonna work but they so loud
Lmfao I changed 1 filter
Oh boy
I really think most cases are fine with having a much bigger psu, like north xl for example, up to 300mm if you take away a single hdd tray lol
P500a can do 250mm taking away 2 hdd brackets
most of the cases I would consider large and spatious have plenty of space in the bottom for an ultra long psu as long as you don't use all the drive cages
p500a image for reference
Even with something smaller, td500 mesh says it only supports up to 180mm but you can clearly get more space if you take out the drive brackets
I mean yeah if you like those
I don't think it's a issue for most cases
Dual chamber is almost non existent at this size
I mean personally I've never liked dual chamber cases so I don't consider them much lol
most standard cases have no problems just taking away a drive cage and fitting much bigger psus
I think pcpp is lying to me rn
It's saying the o11 mini air fits a 200mm
And I know that's a lie
Only seen antec c8 and o11 vision compact so far for any dual chambers that are actually decent
But I can't tell if they actually are compatible
It's probably a "You REALLY want to attach all the cables you need to the PSU before you screw it into the case" situation
Yeah I think this site doesn't know
Tower 300 fits 180mm max
Dan a3 doesn't list any support for a 200mm, it can fit it but it thinks it can fit it with a 334mm gpu which is not correct
Pretty sure pcpp is lying lol
But ig this is fair
I often forget normal cases exist cos A) I only have one of those left lol
But also B) most high end tend to not pick normal style anymore
Personally I've been recommending north xl recently for higher end so that's why I pulled that up as the first example lol
With the rumored TDP of RTX 5090 at 575W and 120W for 9800x3d. Does a PSU of 1500W makes sense for a high end build with RGB and OC?
Not even remotely lmfao
Too much?
Ok, thank you.
For the record I'm being generous there
I've done my 600W 4090 on an 850W
Pick the right psu and you won't need even 1000W
Corsair PSU is what opted for.
Corsair and NZXT seems to be the only PSU that are compatible with next gen GPUs
Every brand makes good units (save for gamemax)
Every brand makes firebombs (including gamemax)
That's not true at all
All you need is a 12vhpwr plug
You don't need anything else
Almost every psu brand has these now
How about ATX3.1?
That's the revised cable spec
Which any new unit will have
It's been out for like a year now
Try not to buy native 12vhpwr btw
Two questionable power plugs is more risky than an adapter with one imo
Seen the 12vhpwr melt on both ends, even with 3.1 out
Wich brands do you suggest?
No brands
Only models
Would you have model recommendation for Corsairs?
Ez pick
Then use an adapter
Since you're implying the use of a boatload of rgb I'm going to assume the redundancy of 1000W over 850W
No, and the reason is corsair doesn't make any game changing psus anymore
You can get similar quality from other brands nowadays
But still a good quality right? Reason I'm insistent on Corsair is because I'm trying to limit my brands for my build
The core reactor ii is better
The gv1000 is comparable
Here's the thing
Psu brands are almost all resellers
They buy from an oem
Slap their brand on the front
And away they go
Corsair is one of the few that are in house but they've long been long out of the race for best psu for a long time bar the AXi (Which is a pointless buy)
Nowadays you have multiple brands sourcing the same good oems and putting out competitive units for much less
It's like looking at noctua
They were hailed as the kings of air cooling for years
They got comfortable
The competition learned and caught up
Now they're just an expensive brand that relies on brand loyalty
There's no real benefit to spending 5x the price of a thermalright these days cos there's only lost money out of pocket
It's the same with corsair
My friend loves Noctua fans 😆
Their psus aren't bad either but you pay for the brand now and you get objectively worse overall
You get a worse psu for more money
What are the top brands now on to your opinion?
Again lad

I don't go by brand
Everyone has their good hardware, everyone has their bad
Like corsair fans are garbage
So are their ram
Their cases used to be good but they cut costs starting with the new fishtank series
Their $300 aios lose to $60 options
There's so much to say for corsair
And more importantly not being brand loyal
There's a reason why the atx standard exists
It keeps things very universal
If you try tie yourself to an ecosystem by buying one brand you'll just be sinking extra money in for no benefit
For me it's Esthetic-Performance-Quality then Brand
Lad I had like an entire closet full of corsair at one point
Tell me what I don't know already about it
Corsair is not worth it
I know its not a good priority but that's just what I prefer
I woke up from that
It's your choice lad but it won't change my suggestion one bit
I don't empathise with brand loyalty
Because of that very thing we have an nvidia card coming that looks to be some 50% more expensive
In the end, you're getting the same OEM anyways for the PSU, Corsair uses CWT for RM/RMx/RMi, Core Reactor II also uses a CWT platform.
And the core reactor does it better
There would be no difference in manufacturing quality, it's the same OEM making it. Core Reactor II uses a newer platform made by CWT
Yep
But it also costs much less
So they do it better lol
Objectively speaking, you pay extra for a sticker here
If money isn't my concern then will Corsiars HXi series be alright?
That's made by CWT again but yea
If their the same OEM then why Adata?
Holy hell the hxi is twice the price wtf
Cos it's the same thing for half the price
Why is this so complicated
You can print a hx1000i sticker and slap it on the psu for $10 mate

You're going to pay $100 for a label
Again the cost isn't my concern
If that's all the difference is the price then I'll be alright with that

It's not like you get software support or anything, there is going to be no difference inside the PSU

I'm almost speechless
It's literally the same thing but better
I'm about to go insane
I can't get a mb to fit in a case because the standoffs are all bent 
hammer time
gorilla glue
Flex seal
to prove how powerful flex seal is, I sawed this motherboard in half
i wonder how flex seal works as thermal paste
I wonder if tig welding the ihs to the cooler improves temperatures
That sounds like a horrible idea. How would you use the ILM?
Or you can just
Weld a contact frame to the chip, then weld the whole thing to the cooler
No need to use the ILM
Any good case under $100?
If You can afford $110 I go with this casehttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C788312?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&ascsubtag=tomshardware-us-6612416805692788684-20&geniuslink=true
The CORSAIR iCUE 4000X RGB is a distinctive and customizable tempered glass mid-tower ATX case with easy cable management and exceptional cooling. Two tempered glass panels and dedicated front ventilation channels combine to offer great looks and airflow. Three 120mm AirGuide RGB fans concentrate...
For $140 this would be my Choice: https://www.newegg.com/charcoal-black-fractal-design-north-atx-mid-tower/p/11-352-204?Item=11-352-204&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options
Montech xr
@blissful thistle @sand atlas this looks awesome
https://lian-li.com/product/edge-gold/
750W / 850W / 1000W /1200W THE “POWER” FOR DUAL CHAMBER CASES The EDGE Gold PSU series features a unique L-shape design, a removable USB and fan PWM hub, longer modular cables, and a conveniently removable dust filter. Experience efficient cable management in a dual chamber or tower chassis that blends aesthetics and convenience in
The features on it make it so much more than a normal unit
10 year warranty
Cybernetics grades all over it
Removable dust filter
Attachable usb and fan hub
Braided and combed cables
A 12vhpwr to 2x8 pin!!
I
Love this
The first one was meh
Cybenetic is so much better at rating actual quality so yeah I'd be willing to recommend that
It has an enormous feature set for what will be an expensive psu
It looks like this all in one package
Ooh USB/fan hub too
I'm gonna watch for the price on this because if it lands well I'm all over recommending
Yesss
And a 2x8 to 12vhpwr is optional
It's not separate
So one less bad connector
AND
All braided cables
The whole thing is a full on feature set
This could fit in very well on appropriate builds
This psu way more interesting to me than the gpus 😂
Lian li has brought something that's caught my eye as much as the dan a3 did

