just bought an rm850 2021 for 80cad
#cases-psu-and-cooling
vestal wharf
vital horizon
best case for keeping pc comp cold?
blissful thistle
I wouldn't say theres an objectively best case, but there are a lot that we recommend consistently
what's your budget for one?
serene siren
I wouldn't say theres an objectively best case, but there are a lot that we reco...
a case that is entirely radiator
past harbor
best case for temps would be a frame & have no filters, lol. (often overpriced) Fractal Torrent is pretty good though.
fierce pivot
best case for keeping pc comp cold?
depends how open to refilling liquid nitrogen every 10 mins you are 
fierce pivot
best case for temps would be a frame & have no filters, lol. (often overpriced) ...
honestly tho kinda sucky case for AIOS and overpriced
it depends, personally id get the phanteks g500a or lian li 216 theyre the best overall from testing, the 216 being a bit better
but its just keeping it less not never completely cold
sand atlas
best case for keeping pc comp cold?
The best case for cooling is no case at all. Open air bench.
vital horizon
sigh why did i expect a straight answer, or the closest to an acceptable answer from people who build pc’s 🤦♂️
sand atlas
There is no straight answer to that question
What's best for one person is terrible for another
tulip granite
sigh why did i expect a straight answer, or the closest to an acceptable answer ...
ill say that the fractal torrent is good. It ranks high in both thermals and noise-normalized thermals
It's the one I use
sand atlas
I, too, use the Torrent. It's great for air cooling. But we don't have any details on what they plan to do.
hollow leaf
I, too, use the Torrent. It's great for air cooling. But we don't have any detai...
Modified* Torrent yeah?
sand atlas
Lightly modified, nothing permanent
tulip granite
I have my radiator sticking into the top part where the psu is lol
if it fits it fits
sand atlas
Yeah that's the alternative solution to what I did, I just mounted it externally on the front by flipping the bracket
tulip granite
idk how im gonna get this torrent to and from college lol
driving is np but for breaks I fly
maybe that expanding instapack foam stuff? I dont really wanna take out my gpu (I know I should), it was pain to get in had to do some upside down backflips on one foot up hill both ways
sand atlas
Idk about upgraded, maybe evolved to be cheaper by removing things like USB C. It seems physically very similar, it's even almost the same dimensions.
fierce pivot
Idk about upgraded, maybe evolved to be cheaper by removing things like USB C. I...
Oh right but they swapped that for another usb a which imo is gonna be more useful to majority of people
solid halo
im thinking about the Fractal north in black, the wood goes hard
fan mounting looks strange with the mesh on the back though
hollow leaf
The only thing I don't see is a filter for the front like the 4000D
jaunty garnet
Best 850w psu?
mild roost
RM850e
sand atlas
Best 850w psu?
Best best or best for the money? There's a tier list in the pins
mild roost
But yeah do use tier list
jaunty garnet
Msi Mpg A850G PCIE 5 Atx 3.0 or Corsair Rm850x?
blissful thistle
Neither because there's likely cheaper very similar psus
sand atlas
RMx imo. Totally not biased because that's what I'm using or anything.
But really Corsair has the best custom cable options which was a big selling point to me. I got the 12 pin cable for the Nvidia 30 series FE cards.
jaunty garnet
RMx imo. Totally not biased because that's what I'm using or anything.
How’s the sound on it? Is it loud at all?
sand atlas
Dead silent thanks to the maglev bearing
serene siren
Just get RMe it'll be cheaper
tame cape
I'm trying to understand the different ways you can mount GPU and PSU in a cooler master nr200, but I don't really get if I will be able to fit a atx PSU (with the proper barcket) and a vertically mounted 300mm 3slot gpu
Can someone help me figure it out
Does the atx PSU bracket fit on the back panel instead of the front panel?
solid halo
i like 3000d
And the price 🥵
It does look p clean but a little plain for my personal taste, are the stock fans rgb?
fierce pivot
It does look p clean but a little plain for my personal taste, are the stock fan...
Just 2 black fans
tame cape
Are there any reliable 450w or higher sfx (not sfx-L) PSUs for something around 60-70$?
My only option I've always kept an eye on was the bequiet sfx power 3 450w, which should be more than enough for a 1080ti and a 9400f (this one has a total of 450w on the 12v line) and a total peak power of 500w and should be enough to accomodate 65w+250w considering GPU power spikes too
tacit wren
maiden rose
yea, if it cant turn on, it can never fail
upbeat dew
seems like ss+ tier to me
not ss+ gold sadly, the wire thickness is way to thin, need to be at least awg12 to qualify 😛
sand atlas
The fanless nature of it also both works for and against it
slate creek
Yeah, but it comes with cables
vestal wharf
Yeah, but it comes with cables
ik, bought it off marketplace for 80cad, was missing a few so figured id pick up a set
fierce pivot
ik, bought it off marketplace for 80cad, was missing a few so figured id pick up...
You can usually buy them individually from corsair too, might be cheaper if you're just missing one or 2
vestal wharf
You can usually buy them individually from corsair too, might be cheaper if you'...
i couldnt find those, only the pcie and cpu ones
zinc horizon
Best cheapest psu? for 450 or 500w
blissful thistle
If US, apevia Prestige 600w is the cheapest psu that isn't explosive
winter kestrel
Are there good 1500W+ PSU's coming up (ATX 3.0/PCIe Gen5/12VHPWR) if I want/need one right now (the only good option is BQ's Dark Power 13 1600W, I'd get the FSP Hydro Ti Pro in a heartbeat otherwise obviously)
mild roost
The best psu there is would still be the AX1600i
It doesn't have those new cables but you can always get adapters
blissful thistle
Gf3 1650 I guess, but what do you need such a high wattage psu for?
Unless you're building a workstation with multiple gpus, a 1200w is already overkill, like the df.2
mild roost
Also yeah, going over 1000w is overkill for anything feasible
Especially a single gpu setup
sand atlas
Unless you're building a workstation with multiple gpus, a 1200w is already over...
D.F. 2 is still B tier
sand atlas
Yep, the discontinued one ofc
serene siren
Are there good 1500W+ PSU's coming up (ATX 3.0/PCIe Gen5/12VHPWR) if I want/need...
Zero reason to go 12vhpwr. The best high wattage psu's are not in that spec
winter kestrel
I already have the Evga supernova p2 80+ plat 1600w, I'm mainly looking to get rid of cable clutter tbh. Poor use of funds I know haha
mild roost
keep existing psu, get custom cables
winter kestrel
Cable matters right
serene siren
Cable mod, moddiy, evga probably has specific kit too
Also just redoing cable management albeit a pain will be overall better use of funds, like a $5 pack of zip ties
No point dropping 300-500 on a new unit like that
Only real upgrade is an AX1600i anyway
And that's not atx 3.0
It's just simply the best
winter kestrel
I am going to end up with a second 4090 w/AIO (probably 360mm since I have room for it). It's for workstation purposes/rendering and I don't have the room to build an ADA 6000 rig right now (as in physical space/another room/home office)
That's why I opted for 1600w
serene siren
I'd still just make do
sand atlas
Zero reason to go 12vhpwr. The best high wattage psu's are not in that spec
Correct, I haven't seen any "true" ATX 3.0 PSUs yet, just ones that say "3.0 ready" or have the 12VHPWR cable.
It's possible one has come out since I last checked.
serene siren
Even if you were daisy chaining on some of the cables it would still be fine
winter kestrel
I agree, kinda knew the answer coming in tbh, just wanted some confirmation bias so I can stop being lazy and actually put in the work
serene siren
It's all good man
winter kestrel
Love all of you
dense dune
Can someone help me find my Gpu cable slot in my psu please private dm me i’m very lost 😭😭 (private dm as i’m unable to send a pic here)
sand atlas
What model GPU?
dense dune
What model GPU?
3080
sand atlas
And PSU?
serene siren
The one that says "pcie"
serene siren
Ah
sand atlas
It's labeled as VGA1 and VGA2
dense dune
It's labeled as VGA1 and VGA2
I thought that’s for the straight plug thing
dense dune
Can sm1 like help me out
sand atlas
VGA stands for Video Graphics Array, aka GPU
mild roost
the one without daisy chain
dense dune
what’s a daisy chain
mild roost
one cable that splits into two 6 or 8 pins
dense dune
😭
sand atlas
They'll be the ones that split off into 6+2 pins and not the one that splits into 4+4
dense dune
They'll be the ones that split off into 6+2 pins and not the one that splits int...
Lemme check all these cords rq
sand atlas
Your cables should be labeled CPU and VGA, it's on the sides of the connector
sand atlas
Does your 3080 need 2x 8 pin or 3x?
dense dune
2
sand atlas
Use 2 separate cables
sand atlas
Yes. That way you don't melt the cable.
dense dune
So i have to use Vga1 and 2
sand atlas
Yes
sand atlas
Just use the one closest to the power supply, and leave the other loose
Use a zip tie or something to keep it out of the way if you want
serene siren
sand atlas
That depends on what is supposed to be rgb
dense dune
That depends on what is supposed to be rgb
The fans
dense dune
Montech sky 2 I don’t have it yet
I have everything but the case and mother board
Which i can buy rn but i’m like lost and wanna make sure i don’t have to purchase anything else later
sand atlas
That case comes with an ARGB controller, so you'll power that controller with a SATA connector to get rgb
dense dune
That case comes with an ARGB controller, so you'll power that controller with a ...
What does “PERIF” mean?
sorry for so many questions btw
sand atlas
Probably not
dense dune
Thank you
Sata is for something else too right?
I just forgot about that one
it’s rgb and what’s the other thing?
dense dune
What’s hdds?
sand atlas
Hard drive
dense dune
Like the fat one or is the SSD the fat one?
sand atlas
Hard drives are the old school mechanical drives. SSDs are just a bunch of chips.
dense dune
What
sand atlas
They come in a wide variety of sizes so you can't judge from that
serene siren
dense dune
so SSD is the M.2 stuff correct?
sand atlas
If you have a M.2 drive you don't need any cables for it
dense dune
If you have a M.2 drive you don't need any cables for it
Thank you
sand atlas
It just plugs into the motherboard directly
dense dune
Okay so main concern one more time rq
I need 2 different plug ins for the VGA slot for the 6+2=8 plug ins for the gpu?
sand atlas
Yes
dense dune
So i have to run 2 different cords
Ok
And what about the rgb things?
Like the strimer
at the end i can plug the thing into the ugly 2 ones and be ok
Or do i need two strimer
or just one
sand atlas
You would need 2 strimers, one for each connection
sand atlas
Pretty lights get expensive fast
dense dune
I’m getting the “LIAN LI ADDRESSABLE RGB STRIMER Plus 8-PIN V1 (Original Version 1, not V2 version)”
On amazon
They’re only 17$ a piece
sand atlas
This one?
sand atlas
Ok that one has the 2 connections you need already
dense dune
Wait what
sand atlas
So just one purchase there
sand atlas
Yes
dense dune
And not 2 sepperate
sand atlas
The one set of cables has 2 connection ends
sand atlas
Yes
sand atlas
I don't care for rgb personally
dense dune
tryna bring demons in my room tf😭😭
serene siren
No lights = 
dense dune
Light = 🇺🇸🍔
sand atlas
What little RGB I do have serves a functional purpose. It's set to change colors according to various temperature sensors in the system, like the VRM, CPU, and GPU
sand atlas
Voltage Regulator Module, it powers the CPU
dense dune
No cords right?
dense dune
I’m scared of AIO stuff
dense dune
I don’t wanna spill the water on accident
vocal tree
AIOs are ezpz
dense dune
Is there actually Water in the water coolers
serene siren
I don’t wanna spill the water on accident
They're made with the full intent that you can't spill it
sand atlas
AIO is a closed loop, no chance of spills unless you cut it open
dense dune
Oh
serene siren
Is there actually Water in the water coolers
Yes with biocides to prevent bacteria
vocal tree
custom liquid cooling is what you're thinking of
dense dune
Oh
Is there like 100-120$ Cpu Water ones that are good that actually work
?
Like the 360 Millimeter
Stuff
Or even The 280
sand atlas
Plenty yeah, but they're usually unnecessary
sand atlas
I mean the CPU is going to perform the same whether it's running at 70 degrees or 40 degrees, so having "too much" cooling doesn't help you at all
vocal tree
it's like a car radiator
sand atlas
The heat from the CPU is transferred into the water as it flows by, and then the heat is released into the radiator where the fans are, in a constant loop.
vocal tree
luqid goes from the hot thing to a thing with a lot of surface area and some fans to blow air past it to get cold, then it goes back to the hot thing
dense dune
Oh
So the water stays really cool and goes fast to produce cool air around it and the fan blows that cool air and then it makes it cold?
sand atlas
The water is being heated by the CPU and cooled in the radiator where the fans blow away the heat, so there's always cold water going into the CPU
dense dune
Okay so The fan on the cpu steals the hot air and then the water makes it cooled air and shoots it away
mild roost
no
dense dune
did i get anything close to it correct
sand atlas
mild roost
it takes in fresh air, but the heat from the cpu is what heats up the water
and the fans cool the radiator down
it's exactly like how a car radiator works
vocal tree
it's like when you stand by the fireplace for a while, get way too hot, then go outside in the snow to cool down, and repeat, like a normal human person :)
mild roost
that pic is the best presentation of the concept
mild roost
you chatted enough ya
vocal tree
I vomited on your name
dense dune
Oh
mild roost
now you can post piccs
sand atlas
That's ok I can see them all
dense dune
Don’t mind my dog he’s not dead even tho u swear he is sometimes
will u guys be online to help me
through my pain
in 3 days
sand atlas
Someone will be probably
dense dune
when everything is delivered
sand atlas
In the meantime watch a couple build tutorial videos, it'll help
dense dune
Is deep cool a good one
dense dune
In the meantime watch a couple build tutorial videos, it'll help
That’s all i did. today
Except going 2 sixflags
sand atlas
Is deep cool a good one
That's one of the best on the market
dense dune
That's one of the best on the market
Oh Frl?
mild roost
one of the best out there
dense dune
Oh
I thought that other Krankheit one is the best out there
They overpriced asl 😹😹
Kracken
Is the name
sand atlas
my nose started bleeding so i'm out fir the night
dense dune
WAIT
one more after u clean ur self
sata is only six pin
I cant find another 6 pin and then 6+2 for the gpu
sand atlas
The 6 pin end goes to the psu, then the flat, long ones are the ones that go to the hub etc
dense dune
Nono like i know 6 goes in but i cant find the 6 theres the 2 part
and i cant find a 6 one for it then the 6+2 for the gpu
mild roost
you can split the extra 2 pins to turn it into a 6 pin
dense dune
you can split the extra 2 pins to turn it into a 6 pin
But i’m using 2
mild roost
well then you should find another cable that has 6+2 or 8
doesn't the strimmer have two 8 pins you'll need?
or are you struggling to find a second 8 pin from your psu
dense dune
doesn't the strimmer have two 8 pins you'll need?
But i have to plug into the psu
mild roost
yeah, the psu side is different
dense dune
or are you struggling to find a second 8 pin from your psu
I’m struggling finding a 6 pin for the psu and then a 8 for the GPU
dense dune
get cables that say vga and use the unlabeled end for the psu
Wait aren’t i suppose to put in SATA?
mild roost
for what?
dense dune
The gpu
mild roost
no
if it's for the strimer then yes
but gpu doesn't need sata power
you can use this vid for reference
dense dune
but gpu doesn't need sata power
Thank you so much
blissful thistle
D.F. 2 is still B tier
Yeah fair point, but in most scenarios where running one gpu you'll be fine. I would take an A tier 1000w over it at the same price tho
tame cape
What case is this? Should be an itx
tame cape
No way I just lost a power supply 💀
Wtf... Am I stupid? (Maybe)
I can't find it and I don't even remember where I put it last time
blissful thistle
Have you checked between the couch cushions
vocal tree
Maybe you left it in the night stand
vocal tree
Hide it in your socks
tame cape
I'll probably loose this one too
I wonder why half of the fan is covered with some plastic thing
vocal tree
Nah bro's just massive
fierce pivot
We need banana for scale obviously/s
tame cape
It's 10 pm you want me to go buy a banana at a store? 🍌
Some stupid 3d printed brackets to make the PSU enclosure fit with a 19*19cm motherboard
And yep... It took me about 2 hours to do so
slate creek
It's 10 pm you want me to go buy a banana at a store? 🍌
Yes.
tame cape
I just have a massive cut on my hand and I didn't even notice it
I guess it just spawned naturally
fast marten
Hey anyone know of a good pc case that meets these criteria?
1.) No frills, black box with no RGB,
2.) ATX but is on the smallest it can be
3.) Kinda has that old 2000s vibe to the outer shell
Trying to help a friend find something that feels a bit more to what he is used to.
sand atlas
Hey anyone know of a good pc case that meets these criteria?
1.) No frills, blac...
You can always just not plug in the rgb
fast marten
Thats not really the kind of answer I'm looking for.
Kinda defeats the purpose of the question if i just ignore the criteria.
serene siren
Internet, servers
serene siren
That really looks like net related issues not hardware
And coming from Australia I have a lot of experience in that department
serene siren
Again, looks like net issues
There's no doubt in my mind man
Even if you have gigabit net that doesn't mean the game servers can't have issues nor you can't have hiccups
sand atlas
I have gigabit internet i shouldnt be having issues
You'd be amazed how little this matters
Games don't care if you're on 5Mb or 5000Mb, it's latency that matters. The actual packets the game uses are very small in number.
What I'd suggest is rebooting everything on your net
serene siren
Just suddenly you're walking along, server interrupts, ping spikes, packet loss still zero, you're clipping back into the same place over and over again
If I had a penny for every time I had this as an Australian I'd have a vacation fund
tame cape
I had a crash in beamng drive for the 1st time (on this computer) with the error GPU not responding... Then I noticed this, I don't know if it ever happened with the other PSU, but those voltages look a bit lower than they should be, that's under load (blue) and idle (green)
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/l3mtph/what_is_max_operating_voltage_and_reliable/
From what I understood on this post, it has nothing to do with the PSU and is all about the max frequency the card pushes itself to which makes the voltage increase.
Maybe the in game crash was just a coincidence... Who knows
So it's core voltage limitations and not pcie power connectors
sand atlas
Yes it's core voltage that's the primary concern, but 11.4V input is a bit lower than I'd be comfortable with even if it is still within spec.
tame cape
So this isn't the problem that lead to the crash?
Just a casual crash probably
It's just weird cuz I never got one on this pc
tame cape
I had a crash in beamng drive for the 1st time (on this computer) with the error...
Been gaming for about half an hour, monitored voltages and apparently the 11.44v it reported her was just for a very short time, in beamng (had no crashes btw) the pcie slot went down to 11.53 meanwhile the pcie power connectors down to 11.75 so it's pretty good. It never reaches 12v but I guess lower voltage is slightly better than higher
tame cape
And apparently 1050mV is the max reliable voltage
Cpu gest really toasty inside the pc, I remember it barely reached 62C outside the case, now it gets over 75C while not pulling that much power
Undervolting time
primal night
Looking for a good budget psu can i have some help? the current wattage of the build rn is around 330 according to pc part picker
blissful thistle
Looking for a good budget psu can i have some help? the current wattage of the b...
how much?
cheapest I'd go is $52 for apevia prestige 600w
primal night
lower then 250 preferably
blissful thistle
how are you looking at $250 psus for a 330w build
are you making a whole new pc?
or replacing a psu in an existing one
or already bought other parts and are just looking for a psu
blissful thistle
making a whole new pc
what is the budget for the whole pc?
I could make you a list for the whole pc, for you to compare to
primal night
1000-1300ish usd
blissful thistle
gaming?
and do you care about asthetics?
or can get 1tb more storage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yg6HxH
sand atlas
Nice lists as always bacca
primal night
and do you care about asthetics?
not much mostly dont want alot of rgb
blissful thistle
or to save some https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2bJrHG
or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nX6HxH
primal night
and thank you for your help
primal night
any recommendations for a cpu cooler from the builds you sent?
sand atlas
The stock cooler works fine
primal night
i thought the intel stock cooler wasnt the best?
blissful thistle
its fine on a 12400f
sand atlas
Correct, it's not the best. But it's fine for a lower tier CPU.
blissful thistle
could get this if you wanted to https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3 but won't really perform ebtter, just quieter
or this for a bit more, not far behind pa120 se https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gs4Ycf/thermalright-silver-soul-110-54-cfm-cpu-cooler-ss110-white
primal night
Thank you once again!
tame cape
What case is this? Should be an itx
Anyone?
karmic latch
How are these 2
karmic latch
What’s wrong with the psu
blissful thistle
buying a random psu is not a good idea, it's very common for unknown psus to have tendencies to catch fire
there is a tier list pinned in this channel, if you can get anything under the A or B tier section
karmic latch
It’s c tier
karmic latch
Yes
karmic latch
5600 and 6600
karmic latch
huh, i stand corrected
Wdym
karmic latch
It’s ok
delicate eagle
need help
my case is the o11 dynamic and my board is the asus rog strix b550 a
I can't connect the usb c front panel to my board
sand atlas
I can't connect the usb c front panel to my board
That's because you don't have the header for the USB C. You can get an adapter.
delicate eagle
what's the name of the adapter?
sand atlas
You'll want something like this with an active chip https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-Internal-Motherboard-Converter-Adapter/dp/B07WG8ZJ41?th=1
delicate eagle
thanks @sand atlas
delicate eagle
anyone know where can I buy cable braids
I only want to buy the thing the braids your cable
sand atlas
I only want to buy the thing the braids your cable
Just add heat and you've got a nice sleeved cable, or use it to bunch cables together
wary viper
old Dell XPS 630i....plug it in to see if it operates and when it is plugged in, it gives a continuous alarm sound. no beeping...ASSUMING PSU is shot...ideas?
tame cape
Will the MSI a650gf be enough for a 6900xt and a 5600x?
past harbor
750 would be ok.
wary viper
would 700 or 750 work for this board with this CPU?
AORUS A520 AORUS ELITE AM4
AMD Ryzen 5 5500
hollow leaf
would 700 or 750 work for this board with this CPU?
AORUS A520 AORUS ELITE AM4
A...
It depends what GPU you have
wary viper
4gb 1050 ti superclocked asnd eventually dualing with 8gb 2060 super
hollow leaf
4gb 1050 ti superclocked asnd eventually dualing with 8gb 2060 super
Yes, a 700 would be fine. You could even use a 600w
hollow leaf
4gb 1050 ti superclocked asnd eventually dualing with 8gb 2060 super
Why dualing?
wary viper
1050 would be set for streaming software & background and 2060 would be all gaming
but i also have a lot plugged into my current pc and am pushing the full load...so a 700 sounds like a good buffer lol
wary viper
So I no longer need a PSU. The one I have in my old PC I am rebuilding is actually good. The alarm sound I've been hearing is GPU related....fan failure. Gonna test it tomorrow with my other GPU in my current machine to see if she boots up
lofty pewter
1050 would be set for streaming software & background and 2060 would be all gami...
Realtime GPU accelerated video encode is done via specific hardware accelerators, not the GPU core. For Nvidia this is done via NVENC. Use of NVENC also has little affect on CPU utilization as well. So there is no real need to care about getting multiple components to split workloads as it wont help performance. It's also worth noting that NVENC was upgraded from Pascal to Turing, so the 2060 would encode video better then the 1050.
As for wattage, you're looking at <400w:
- CPU is going to be 60w - 90w
- GPU is going to be 160w - 220w
- Rest of system is going to be 20w - 80w
The only reason to go for more wattage is "future proofing", which is usually not as good as it sounds. In general I'd just go for cheapest good 550w - 650w PSU you can buy (generally the cheapest PSUs that arent trash start at this wattage area).
wheat folio
Can an ATX PSU power a USB port directly? I was wanting to put an 7" monitor into my pc case and power it directly from the psu. Since USB uses +5V I could directly connect the +5V of the female USB connector to +5V on the ATX, and USB GND to ATX +0V, leaving the data lines unconnected. Video will be coming from hdmi
wheat folio
I was going to make my own, but could you share a link lol
wheat folio
Okay thats why I was going to diy, I couldn't find anything. Thank you for the sanity check though 🥳
mild roost
There's breakout boards, but they take 20/24 pin atx
light gazelle
is an apevia prestige 600w good enough for a 6700 xt
blissful thistle
Yes but if possibly I'd spend get this if you can https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v4L7YJ/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0650fpcgus-r
light gazelle
Rebate makes it 75
sand atlas
I'm thinking of diy a 6 pin atx psu to 1× usb-A & 2 Sata power cable
Remember that USB is 5V so make sure you use the right wires
wheat folio
Can an ATX PSU power a USB port directly? I was wanting to put an 7" monitor int...
@sand atlas yup 🙂
Since USB uses +5V I could directly connect the +5V of the female USB connector to +5V on the ATX, and USB GND to ATX +0V, leaving the data lines unconnected.
sand atlas
Derp. I need to read more lol
wheat folio
no worries
hollow leaf
Can an ATX PSU power a USB port directly? I was wanting to put an 7" monitor int...
Does your mobo not have a USB 2.0 header?
sand atlas
That would have a max of 1A and the screen might use more than that
hollow leaf
That would have a max of 1A and the screen might use more than that
I linked wrong thing anyways. But my 7" screen runs fine off my Mobo header
Something like this could help you.
See Fal's link
sand atlas
That looks rather frightening considering it would be easy to mix up 5V and ground
If that's meant for a USB header they couldn't just... use the standard?
hollow leaf
Yeah it's not the best one. I'm kinda in between customers so I couldn't quickly find the one I have.
The one I have has a all in one plug vs those individuals
sand atlas
Half the price and much less risky lol https://www.amazon.com/TRIPP-Motherboard-Header-6-Inch-U024-06N-IDC/dp/B00QVTVB84/ref=psdc_306629011_t2_B0BV9H89HL
hollow leaf
Half the price and much less risky lol https://www.amazon.com/TRIPP-Motherboard-...
Thank you. That's what I was looking for.
sand atlas
@wheat folio Would this work? It probably would if the screen uses less than 1A of power
wheat folio
Half the price and much less risky lol https://www.amazon.com/TRIPP-Motherboard-...
if my itx mobo had extra headers
I am making full diy cabling anyways an extra 2 wires shouldn't be too bad
says 2A sadly (charge only)
i didnt get the monitor yet, but I borrowed a 7" screen from my dad to test fit
wheat folio
Does your mobo not have a USB 2.0 header?
it doesn't unless I add an expansion board or splitter (all are populated)
serene siren
Good lord this review is super detailed
They're publishing white papers on their new stuff too which is amazing
(They've done that before I know)
sand atlas
Yeah they're definitely increasing the amount of usable data and the overall quality of the reviews. That new acoustic chamber is going to be great for so many different products.
serene siren
It's an impressive level of feedback for companies too
Like they can easily demonstrate what is acoustically wrong there
sand atlas
I think the part I like most is they solicited feedback from peers and will be incorporating some of the ideas given
serene siren
And it's a novel example in this review too
Yeah feedback from aris and that acoustic guy gives me a lot of hope
Also that 4070 fe on a side note, disgusting temps
sand atlas
The case certainly doesn't appear to have been made with passthrough coolers in mind
serene siren
I think that LP cooler is also a little tall
Weird thing to say but I swear I've seen lower
That said, it ran the 13600k
Impressively
sand atlas
They did mention it was an example of the near maximum height of cooler
serene siren
Ah, I didn't watch the review as closely
I've had the terra in mind for a while tho
It looks like it could handle my 7950x3d
sand atlas
How bout that "120mm aio support"
serene siren
But I'd lose my eclk to use it
serene siren
How bout that "120mm aio support" <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Does it??
I wouldn't have even tried
It's in that size class that is just air or death imo
It's a what 11L case?
Very very small
sand atlas
Does it??
It does... But there's nowhere to mount the radiator that it fits so it hangs loose
sand atlas
At least the 120 still fits inside with the door closed
Not that you would ever seriously game on that with the doors closed
delicate eagle
guys do you have any fix? my table vibrates because of my pc
only when I put the fans on full speed
but the rad fans automatically turns to full speed
my deepcool ls720 se fans dosent come with rubber
delicate eagle
thanks
thick viper
Looking for a case, $170-$210ish, needs to be able to fit a 360mm aio and a tri fan 3070 and also should look good
Lmk if you guys have some suggestions
serene siren
Wouldn't spend anymore than 110 for your requisites
All good
These are most of my go tos but I tend to stay like, sub 70 cos there's appreciable options at that budget
thick viper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ByJmP6/lian-li-o11-dynamic-mini-atx-mid-tower-c...
Prolly gonna get this one
thick viper
These are most of my go tos but I tend to stay like, sub 70 cos there's apprecia...
Just looking to get a case that will last me as long as my current one
thick viper
Just remember it has no fans and needs an itx psu
Idk if I have an itx psu
I got that Corsair 850w
serene siren
Always double check everything, if you need all atx fitment I'd suggest the D41 instead
thick viper
Yeah it’s 12am, not planning on anything to be final
serene siren
All good
serene siren
These all fit 360 aios
All of them
But they vary in matx mobos or atx mobos
And that o11 mini is specifically the only one that's itx psu
thick viper
H9 flow looks nice
Or Corsair 4000d maybe
Both are expensive tho
Might get that case
thick viper
😭
thick viper
Just looking for a case that shows off components
thick viper
Like o11 evo is just an easy pick
$200 tho
serene siren
Fair enough
serene siren
Pop XL is a bit of a show off case
thick viper
That’s like 350
serene siren
Fractal north? That's a good one
serene siren
I want montech to bring back that air 100
That was so nice for such a cheap case
@thick viper what about hyte y40
thick viper
Maybe
serene siren
Nzxt case designed by og nzxt designer but he fixed all the wrong bs with nzxt cases
serene siren
G360a is quite good yeah
It "fits" 360 aios on top
i.e not all fit
Max length is like 380mm for the rad or something like that
serene siren
I have to dip in about 5 minutes I'm not gonna get the chance to check
I think that may have been one of the ones that have a real problem top mounting
serene siren
slate creek
When in doubt, zip ties and a dremel
polar tapir
Anybody here has some expirience with a dk431? I want to put a 7900xtx hellhound and a 360 aio inside of it
mild roost
the gpu and aio will fit that case
gpu support is up to 400mm, so it fits anything
is the case already bought? if not, there's better cases around this one
chilly path
Would avoid 4000D in 2023
why, is it not good anymore?
and would a TD500 Mesh be better or worse?
serene siren
Not so much that it's bad, more so that it's just not the greatest value with the current market
It used to make sense, good mesh, good quality for $95
But it's always been, $95
chilly path
what would be a good alternative?
serene siren
So competition has slowly but surely crept in
I mean, direct competitor? G360A
Better in every single way
Montech air 100
Cheaper quality but 4 fans
mild roost
i like muh deepcool ch370
mild roost
not best value but it cheep and looks noice
serene siren
But ch560* isn't
mild roost
yeah ofc
chilly path
I wonder why only one obscure shop stocks the G360A
serene siren
There's just better choices now over 4000d
mild roost
get corsair 2000d /s
serene siren
I wonder why only one obscure shop stocks the G360A
Have a look at that wall of links for suggestions
Those are all good
chilly path
wall of links?...
serene siren
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fPZ9TW/asus-prime-ap201-microatx-mini-tower-cas...
.
chilly path
should pin it lel
serene siren
Nah, the market is always changing
Different regions boast better pricing
Like, at one point the h510 flow was alright
But now it's just disgusting
Used to be able to get the air 100's for like $60
Those were good too
Nowadays I wouldn't recc an nzxt to save my life
mild roost
nzxt cases cringe now
serene siren
Unless it was some super discount mobo
Or a c gold psu
So what may be good today might be terrible tomorrow
chilly path
4000D (with 2 non-RGB fans and no RGB hub) is 46k HUF
Fractal Design Pop XL Air RGB is 59k HUF with 4 ARGB fans and built in controller
WAIT IT HAS 5.25" BAYS
OMG that's amazing
serene siren
Pop XL is expensive and yes
It takes cd bays
Pop xl does it all and looks dapper
chilly path
I didn't think I'll ever see a case with a CD drive bay ever again
serene siren
Fractal knows the market
chilly path
Y'know what screw it I'll do it just so I can have my CD drive living in it
serene siren
Y'know what screw it I'll do it just so I can have my CD drive living in it
I support your thinking
chilly path
I support your thinking
I have a CD drive in the 9 year old laptop my current rig replaced
poor thing still works tho
just
No cooling fan
chilly path
I support your thinking
I might even buy a fan monitor screen for it lmao
a DVD writer and a fan speed monitor screen in the front
Based
chilly path
I CAN STILL GET ONE
3 channel PWM speed control and 2 USB 3.0 Type A ports
Honestly Fractal won a future buyer today
chilly path
I just wanna be a chad turning dials to keep my PC cool
chilly path
I'm glad you like it lol
I can do you one worse
https://www.bestmarkt.hu/thermaltake-commander-ft-erintokepernyos-ventilator-szabalyzo-elolapi-panel-525-fekete-p338056
chilly path
Touchscreen fan controller
I can just get a 3 to 1 PWM hub for channel 1 and use that for all the front fans
And fill it up otherwise
I LOVE IT
serene siren
serene siren
Lolol
chilly path
I have a choice to make though
2 of the following:
-Fan controller
-DVD drive
-Multiport card reader
Eh
I'll take the fan controller and DVD drive
mild roost
living that 2008 dream
chilly path
living that 2008 dream
I mean it's nostalgia but you also have cutting-edge modern performance with that case
also cute little drooble holder included too which is like adorable
chilly path
living that 2008 dream
Now that you say that... I'll replay some of the best games of that year to have the PC gamer of 2008 experience since my front panel will be stuck there
Burnout Paradise (the original)
Dead Space (the original one)
Devil May Cry 4
GTA IV
Fallout 3
Call of Duty: World at War
chilly path
@serene siren okay I'll likely not use the Fractal RGB controller (and just sync everything up with RGB software applicable to the mobo)
And control the fans from the front panel controller manually
use a splitter for the front 3 fans and connect the rest of them individually
should be able to put 3 fans on a 10w channel right?
unless I'll just let BIOS fan curve handle fans and add the card reader for the memes
tho I don't think I need like half of these ports
like mic in and headphone out, eSATA or the USB 2.0s
Yeah I can get an external card reader significantly cheaper
Screw it fan controller it is
I believe PWM is 5 volt?...
So I should be able to connect 3 fans to a 10w channel
chilly path
ye
serene siren
Lemme check
chilly path
PCPartpicker review is quite heated about it too
that means I still have to get the full 6 fans, not just 2
@serene siren
serene siren
So in the GN review they could adjust the fan speeds @chilly path
chilly path
that's weird cuz the guy is LOUDLY complaining about having 3 pin fans
serene siren
So they should be pwm, they also adjusted it by specifically stating they set it to 80%
chilly path
doesn't GN use an external controller?
serene siren
chilly path
it's possible the fans are not PWM on the XL
serene siren
Idk why they'd do that
chilly path
https://youtu.be/c2QPTcRIipk?t=1440s
Nowhere on their site do they EVER say the fans are PWM tho
they do have a PWM version of the Aspect fan
but state the non-PWM version is shipped with the case
serene siren
This still doesn't make sense because unless they're molex which god forbid why, you can still adjust with voltage tuning
chilly path
also
40 dollar add-in USB-C front port
What a ripoff
so yeah
I'm guessing I can just get the non-RGB one and save a bit
chilly path
Okay the rabbit hole is going deeper
serene siren
And also daisy chaining
serene siren
also
40 dollar add-in USB-C front port
Usb c needs to be hand made it's a strong reason cases cost so much
chilly path
isn't the P12 a better fan than the Aspect anyway
serene siren
~~isn't the P12 a better fan than the Aspect anyway~~
Free is always better
chilly path
Usb c needs to be hand made it's a strong reason cases cost so much
Counterpoint:
Every other case with a USB-C front panel
you could just include it as a hardmount
serene siren
Counter counter point
Cheaper cases don't ship with usb c
It's a fairly standard practice not to
In this case you have the hole
You have the option to consider it
💀
chilly path
Counter counter point
Counter-counter-counterpoint
You can literally do the same thing for 15 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Cablecc-Header-Type-C-Female-Extension/dp/B0755DDD9B?th=1
I can just cut the plate to the right shape and not spend 40 bucks on it
serene siren
Yes, does your mobo have a type c connector
serene siren
I mean, one way or another, you won't get another case with a 5.25 bay in this form
chilly path
That is true tbf
chilly path
ik
it's not really a dealbreaker
just kinda feels like a ripoff
you can make it work
chilly path
So objectively if this is a deal breaker I can't help you with similar
Y'know what the larger issue is with that Type C?
It's IMPOSSIBLE to get a Model D here
only Model E ones which don't fit the Pop cases
chilly path
it's just a little annoying that I can't even get it here
maybe I can contact Fractal after I have the case and they can arrange something
serene siren
You probably could
chilly path
at the end of the day it's a pretty good DIY project to do even if I can't
so it's a slight annoyance, but not the end of the world
what I'm more on edge about is fan control
mobos can't control non-PWM fans
but I'd assume an external fan controller can
chilly path
You probably could
Fractal or Arctic for fans?
serene siren
Not really
serene siren
Unless you are moving some insane heat and you want extra ventilation
But even then functionally it's not a dramatic change
chilly path
with at most a 7950X?
serene siren
7800x3d I thought we were discussing
chilly path
7950X+4090 probably don't need extra air movement
serene siren
Which again you should just stick into your prime board
chilly path
7800x3d I thought we were discussing
I might upgrade to a 7950X if and when I start doing Youtube
cuz video editing/encoding likes more cores
serene siren
7950x will need a better board
serene siren
No, better than prime tho
serene siren
I might upgrade to a 7950X if and when I start doing Youtube
That's a huge step up for basically no gaming gains
And also big investment for YouTube startup
chilly path
it's not for gaming gains
It's for production gains
serene siren
7600x should already be fairly competent just takes a bit longer
You should try out the experience first before you make the plunge for expensive tech
serene siren
It's more than a baseline tbh, 6700xt is still mid range
And 7600x kinda in that reach as well
chilly path
Aigo B352A
I hate it with a burning passion
serene siren
Idk what that even is
chilly path
there are no fans AND it's like almost fully solid front panel
serene siren
serene siren
💀
chilly path
you can mount 2 120s (one front, one back)
But it comes without any fans
also
Top PSU mount be like
sand atlas
There's nothing objectively wrong with top mount PSU. My Torrent has that.
serene siren
P200a also does it
chilly path
oh my gripe ain't with top mount PSU
my gripe is with this specific case
I HATE IT
serene siren
Lol
sand atlas
It kinda looks like one of those cases with a vented side panel by the gpu
Unless that's just decorative, can't tell from the angle
chilly path
I originally asked for a Deepcool mATX case that had 3 fans up front
chilly path
It kinda looks like one of those cases with a vented side panel by the gpu
Oh but that's where you're wrong my friend
This one has an acrylic side panel
sand atlas
That only makes it more possible to be vented, acrylic is easy to cut. TG is not.
chilly path
I originally asked for a Deepcool CG560
ALLEGEDLY the builder couldn't fit a Hellhound 6700XT into that case
so I got "upgraded" to what I have now
wait
might not have been that one
lemme look on their site
I'll recognize it
I was wrongű
it was one of the MATREXX cases
I recognize that front cutout
Matrexx 30
sand atlas
Yeah that has a max gpu length of 250mm, the hellhound is 305
chilly path
wait
it could've been the 40
I don't remember if it had TG side panel
but I think it was the 40, not the 30
sand atlas
If it's the 40 then it's a max of 320mm without a front fan
sand atlas
Yes
Give or take a couple
Slim fans are around 15mm
But they're barely better than nothing
chilly path
I think he tried to install it once he put the fan in I asked for
And it touched so he didn't bother trying a slim fan
Boy did I get scammed
Yeah this was the last time I shop there that's for sure
at least I got a free tower cooler and a 7600X instead of the 7600 and stock cooler so
I think it's an acceptable tradeoff to not have fans for a fixed price
thick viper
Ok i foudn my case
fractal design north charcoal
should fit my 360mm aio and my tri fan 3070
chilly path
I'll just get a 3-pack of TF-12025-ARGBs for 10k HUF and be done with it
then idle temps should improve
thick viper
i need some fans
since I'm getting the fractal north ig not rgb
maybe noctua?
I think I'll only need 3 so noctua might be worth it
chilly path
CPU airflow kinda sucks tho cuz there is no good intake for that
But adding fans should decrease GPU temps significantly
it is what it is tbf
serene siren
I think I'll only need 3 so noctua might be worth it
If you're getting noctuas, get thermalright b12s
Literally the exact same fan but 1/3 the price
thick viper
ok
serene siren
C12C's are also very good for the price, similar level of performance but even cheaper
thick viper
nah ill get b12s
and @serene siren do you know any good fan controllers that will work with the b12s?
serene siren
Any half decent one
The cooler master fan and argb hub is really nice albeit on the higher side
thick viper
Oh alright
serene siren
Unless your mobo is desolate of any fan plugs
thick viper
do you know if the pwm fans that come with the artic north daisy chain?
serene siren
Not in my recent memory no
thick viper
ok thats fine
serene siren
You'd have to find that one out
thick viper
people in cooling seem to think that I'd be fine with just five fans
the 3 from my rad
and the two that are included
serene siren
Yes you should be
thick viper
and we'll go from there
i need a new case cuz my current one is from
2013
lol
i have 10 year old fans
serene siren
Lol
thick viper
theyre all yellow lmao
thick viper
@serene siren
ended up buying this case
it should be totally fine for all of my pc parts
chilly path
I honestly might just add all of my fans as intakes and make massive positive pressure in the case cuz otherwise CPU cooler ain't getting air with the long GPU
not ideal, but oh well
thick viper
just take out all the fans
Just put ice on your cpu
delicate eagle
is it okay to plug my surge protector to an extension cord?
fierce pivot
Uh you shouldn't plug extension cords into each other, that's all that a surge protector is basically
urban tulip
It's not generally recommended, but if your extension cord is the same or thicker in terms of gauge (so the smaller the number, the thicker the wire) it's typically fine.
hollow leaf
Uh you shouldn't plug extension cords into each other, that's all that a surge p...
looks around nervously while side glancing at power strip plugged into power strip
It's just daisy chain 🤣
fierce pivot
It's just daisy chain 🤣
carmine oyster
*looks around nervously while side glancing at power strip plugged into power st...
I have 3
get better
karmic latch
is the deep cool dn650 any good
solid halo
is the deep cool dn650 any good
questionable, cant find a whole lot online for it but it def seems to be cheap i found a listing for 1300 EGP which is like 45 usd
the basic (white) 80 plus is not instilling confidence in me, but at least its a certification. i dont know a whole lot and i wouldnt listen to me but just based on what i can find online, it might not be the best.
floral aurora
Hey fellas I gotta question in regard to a case I want to purchase
It retails for roughly $95 so its a bit pricey, but price isn’t necessarily an issue at the moment
My concern is in regard to airflow
I’m trying to purchase a micro atx pc case that has the best or one of the best airflow on the market
And I’ve looked for hours and this is the best that I have found
If anyone has any input on what they think about this case, or have any other recommendations for other cases that could possibly have equivalent or better airflow that would be INSANELY appreciated
plush agate
this is apparently one of the best sff matx cases rn https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-009W-00034
but honeslty you cant go wrong with either
floral aurora
That looks pretty good tbh
vocal tree
the next case I want to get has kinda paltry airflow but it looks pretty so I want it
mild roost
no mesh tho
serene siren
That looks pretty good tbh
D31 is similar to the sama, also ap201
Both can do 360 rads and atx psus
Also similar *price or cheaper to the lian li
past harbor
Lookin for 750-850w psu rec plz, under $120ish. 12vhpwr (cable) wouldn't hurt. --Realized already using what was my spare. Thnx.
serene siren
Probably gf3 tt if that's still on sale
blissful thistle
A tier 850 non 12vhpwr https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWMTwP/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-8501-afaag-us
$100
$110 I think B tier 850 12vhpwr https://pcpartpicker.com/product/phVmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-4
