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#cases-psu-and-cooling
blissful thistle
coarse sable
Sorry
coarse sable
OK thanks
carmine oyster
a 650 would be fine
For sure I mean even my 5900x and 6700xt (at 285w) is fine so far on my 650w
Had it drawing 750 from the wall while testing it
Kinda uncomfy with that tho lol
urban tulip
Had it drawing 750 from the wall while testing it
i mean hey, atleast you still have a tiny bit of headroom there
sand atlas
Depends on where the OCP trip point is but yeah there's a bit of room. Just hope for small spikes.
If it's set to 125% then the OCP is 812W, 140% 910W
urban tulip
even then since its measuring from wall draw im factoring in the efficiency somewhat
sadly no cybenetics data on it but assuming it is close to the standard 80+ bronze curve
sand atlas
Is it a bronze? I didn't see what model it was
sand atlas
True yes. At 750W input at 115-120V AC it should be a little over 80% efficiency, which is just under 650W DC load output.
carmine oyster
Is it a bronze? I didn't see what model it was
Yea 650w b5
B teir
That was during an occt power test anyway
Unlikely to ever hit that while gaming
It's fine untill I upgrade my gpu later
lunar root
Unlikely unless it's a D or F tier
time to buy an f tier power supply boom boom
lunar root
even then since its measuring from wall draw im factoring in the efficiency some...
my 13600k and 4090 pull 980W from wall when my power supply was 850W sadly idk how much im actually pulling
sand atlas
time to buy an f tier power supply boom boom
You could probably find a gigabyte p-gm that never did the recall replacement and blow that up
lunar root
vroooooooom
sand atlas
I have one I never did the recall on. It's being actively used too. I like living dangerously. (there's no GPU in that computer lol)
vocal tree
Speaking of Kenzie's 5700XT,
Kenzie can you buy me a 5700XT to make up for the blunder of giving away your 5700XT 
quick wraith
it hasnt came yet but should i change my psu since im getting a rx6600
u have a 600w rn
carmine oyster
That's completely fine
lunar root
Kenzie can you buy me a 5700XT to make up for the blunder of giving away your 57...
I'm sorry what
I got rid of it bc it had so many darn issues
I freaking DDU 3 times and I couldn't play my games without "driver device timeout" poping up on my screen and closing my game inwas so sick of amd in the past
vocal tree
Oh yeah that was around the time when 5700XTs had terrible driver issues
sand atlas
If they're the ones for that PSU yes
Or are you talking about the unmarked ends of the cables?
vapid bolt
The unmarked ends
sand atlas
For Corsair cables, the 24 pin splits into 2 for you to plug into the PSU. The CPU one and GPU one do not.
So the side of the CPU cable that splits into 4+4 is for the motherboard
Same with the GPU but 6+2
sand atlas
I can't promise every cable will be marked, or marked correctly
If you know which end goes to your device, then you know which end goes to the PSU
viscid patrol
i spy molex 
vapid bolt
I just put every unmarked cable into the PSU.
And the Marked cables Into the Motherboard
sand atlas
Luckily for you Corsair saw that coming and probably no permanent damage happened
sand atlas
That's just part of the ATX spec
sand atlas
You can have a GPU that uses one 8 pin and one 6 pin so the spec has to account for that
sand atlas
Imma just use two separate PCI E cables for my 3070
This is the preferred method
lethal lichen
does anyone have the O11 dynamic evo?
sand atlas
What do you want to know about it?
There's a couple people here that do but they might not see this chat for a while, so if I or someone else can help you in the meantime we will.
sand atlas
Very common in a new build
A good way to test is to jump the power pins yourself using a screwdriver. I've seen bad buttons before.
halcyon rivet
could I get some help on a custom rig im building and three case fans cant connect to the power supply
the plug is different from the other fan connecters and I need some sort of special adapter
halcyon rivet
I can't send photos
sand atlas
DM it to me
halcyon rivet
K there
halcyon rivet
There the cords from the fans, there 4 pin pmw
There from cooler master
they did not come with the new case there from my old pc case
sand atlas
Ok, what about the fan model then? It should be on the label
halcyon rivet
Im not sure if this is it but its on the back of the fans.... cooler master 12025L 12H
120mm fans
sand atlas
Was the old case a H200 TG?
halcyon rivet
yeah it is
sand atlas
Ok, there's a controller attached to that case for those fans. That 4 wire connection is a proprietary RGB+Power connection.
sand atlas
No problem
sand atlas
thank you for the support ill go buy some new fans thank you again ✋
We've got some recommended fans in the pins for #old-cooling to help you pick
primal night
Any recommendations for M-atx cases?
sand atlas
Do you have a specific height restriction?
primal night
No
sand atlas
Check this one out https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx3gXL/fractal-design-pop-mini-air-microatx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-por1m-06
As long as you don't have a super thick GPU it'll be great
primal night
Ok thank you!
vocal tree
I thought this case looked too wide for a moment but then I realized the PSU shroud continues to the front
fierce pivot
Any recommendations for M-atx cases?
Deepcool ch370 is great too
static arch
We've got some recommended fans in the pins for <#500102614680338456> to help yo...
If u remember u rec me the big boi corsair case
thank you good sir, i now have an AC unit in my office
meager saffron
I have a prob. I have a new build. with a Rosewill PRISM S500 ATX Mid case and a GIGABYTE B450M DS3H WIFI AM4 AMD B450 SATA & AMD 5600. I cant get fan spin
I'm a first-time scratch builder, I have followed all best practices, watched 5 videos, and after the fact watched another 8 hours of troubleshooting. I'm at a loss. I think it's the PSU, but w/o proper diagnostics in hand... what should I do? I know my brother can help me in person... but tbh I wanted to do this on my own.
sand atlas
I'm a first-time scratch builder, I have followed all best practices, watched 5...
Try touching the power on pins with a screwdriver, instead of using the button on the case
tired summit
Are the fans plugged into the motherboard or powered from something like a SATA cable?
meager saffron
Fans hub has a sata cable that I have no where to plug it. It also has a different plug that I can match to a spot on the Mobo.
sand atlas
Fans hub has a sata cable that I have no where to plug it. It also has a differ...
The sata would go to the power supply and the normal fan header goes to the motherboard so you can control fan speed
past harbor
sullen island
Hi!
I got difficulty to choose a good PSU, I should need a 850W... Even some brand make multiple model at same wattage... How can I choose? 🤯
thanks
timid basin
Hi!
I got difficulty to choose a good PSU, I should need a 850W... Even some bra...
country being?
US or?
and what would the system powering it look like?
sullen island
I'm in Canada, i'm thinking to use a i7-13700 on a B760 ATX motherboard, with 4070 graphic card, (exact model not chosen) but for the case I should use the Lian li LANCOOL 216 (unless I find a huge deal on a Corsair 5000D...)
blissful thistle
I'm in Canada, i'm thinking to use a i7-13700 on a B760 ATX motherboard, with 40...
That
sullen island
thanks
primal remnant
corsair power supplies are great
seasonic can be a bit pricier but are imo the superior choice if you don't have anything else
timid basin
Meh, Seasonic isn't as amazing as many make them look
I sound harsh saying that, they can make good things
But also tend to have a bit higher failure rate, absolutely suck on their lower end lineup and are by all means a rather small company with a large marketing budget
Though Adata (core reactor), Asus (strix aura), BeQuiet (pure power 11 FM), Bitfenix (Whisper, Formula Gold), Cooler Master (V-gold v2), Corsair (TXM, RMe, RM, RMx), Cougar (GX-F), Enermax (revolution DF), EVGA (G6, G7, GT), Fractal (ion gold), Montech (titan gold), MSI (A-GF), NZXT (C-series v2), Superflower (Leadex iii), Thermaltake (GF1, GF3) and probably some others I've quickly forgotten to include all have pretty solid midrange units
barren oriole
But also tend to have a bit higher failure rate, absolutely suck on their lower ...
evga also sucks on their low end lineup pretty bad
urban tulip
Wdym n1 and w1 are my fav units
sand atlas
Great for starting the grill, plenty of sparks to catch
mild roost
Also great for melting things
timid basin
evga also sucks on their low end lineup pretty bad
I mean... BR was an okay unit, B5 is decent, most of GD is decent
so it's something at least
barren oriole
I mean... BR was an okay unit, B5 is decent, most of GD is decent
my B5 unit died on me within a year of owning, lol
i try to avoid ctier units cause of it actually
my 650 g2 is going strong though 
carmine oyster
my B5 unit died on me within a year of owning, lol
Thought b5 was b tier
blissful thistle
That's g5
blissful thistle
Oh wait, then did one of them get moved from C to B?
barren oriole
Oh wait, then did one of them get moved from C to B?
yes
i bought it when it was a C tier
guess the cultists are doing some odd changes to the list
sand atlas
There have been a couple "controversial" changes yes
timid basin
👀
sand atlas
Sorry Luke, nothing against you. There's a few people on this server that are just plain refusing to use your list now, though.
timid basin
I mean, I'm not scared of defending my choices
so if they want a talk, I'm up for it 😄
sand atlas
I agree with the vast majority of the list personally. I don't expect every single thing to be perfect, that's unreasonable. I still feel it's the best, most comprehensive yet simple sources.
timid basin
in the end it's a baseline
there's only so much you can do
but I'm still curious as to what is so bad that it's straight up bad according to some
sand atlas
I won't point people out specifically, if they want to talk now they know you're open to discussion.
blissful thistle
Luke how dare you take the time to compile the most reliable list to choose a psu from and make a few opinion based choices that others opinions differ from
(In case it wasn't clear enough, I'm being sarcastic)
timid basin
Luke how dare you take the time to compile the most reliable list to choose a ps...
Don't know, go ask Juular instead
barren oriole
I agree with the vast majority of the list personally. I don't expect every sing...
only thing i dont like is the b5's placement, especially after my experience with one, howver , i only have a single sample size
urban tulip
Buy another one and see what happens
Then you'll have a more representative sample size
prime beacon
What’s a good 850 watt psu
sand atlas
What’s a good 850 watt psu
barren oriole
Buy another one and see what happens
im uhh- good on that
bleak holly
Does anyone know how to take out the bottom fan bracket in the Fractal Torrent please help.
prime beacon
I bought cable extension right it can with the 24 pin , one 8 pin cpu cable , two 8 pin PCIE cable, And two 6 pin cables
It only came with one cpu cable
Can I use the PCIe 8 pin with it or no
urban tulip
no
timid basin
Can I use the PCIe 8 pin with it or no
doesn't physically fit, shouldn't physically fit
night gate
urban tulip
doesn't physically fit, shouldn't physically fit
Why was pcie and eps designed exactly opposite in terms of voltage and then made pcie fit into eps but eps not into pcie
It's like whoever designed it wanted this to happen. So possibly, a profit motive for a PSU manufacturer?
sand atlas
They're not exactly opposites though. PCIe is 3x 12v + 5x ground (including sense) and EPS is 4x each.
sand atlas
Pretty close still gets you an open short if you use the wrong cable
urban tulip
But still, who comes up with the great idea of square peg, round hole
Which is really smart for preventing this
And then only makes it work one way
sand atlas
Intel made the spec so I'm guessing they had a hand in it
urban tulip
Not surprised
Wonder why it was so necessary to have both those connectors basically the same dimensions and look
Cost thing or something?
sand atlas
Maybe. It would simplify tooling. That could have been a factor.
half ridge
Anyone know if a 750w power supply is enough for my build or if I need to go even larger. Ryzen 9 5900x,. AMD 7900xtx, 32gb ram, 1 ssd, 2 hdd, beQuiet dark rock pro 4, and 4 case fans
serene siren
Leave pbo off and a 750W is pretty much just enough
half ridge
Leave pbo off and a 750W is pretty much just enough
I dont think its enabled currently. Should I get an even larger power supply to run it all better? I never really messed with the Bios much aside from correcting my RAM speed
mild roost
most boards tends to have pbo on by default
half ridge
So basically if I want to use the PC to its potential I have to get a larger power supply?
mild roost
yes
half ridge
How large should I go? Ive been running a 650w for years before upgrading the graphics card and only just started having issues with the PC shutting off while under load
mild roost
850w is a min
serene siren
850w would def make me feel more comfortable about your specs but you could also just change to like a 7900 and have no more power issues
7900+A620M TUF/B650M HDV+$119 ripjaws S5 5600 cl28
Depends how much you want to put in tho
half ridge
850w would def make me feel more comfortable about your specs but you could also...
The key is I literally just bought the 7900xtx and got it installed. The 750w is on the way right now.
half ridge
7900+A620M TUF/B650M HDV+$119 ripjaws S5 5600 cl28
Imma be honest I understand like none of that lol
mild roost
first two are cpu and motherboard models
other is ram
you can find those parts in pcpartpicker
serene siren
The key is I literally just bought the 7900xtx and got it installed. The 750w is...
Which 750w
half ridge
Which 750w
Superflower Leadex III 750W 80= Gold
serene siren
Should be fine yeah with pbo off
half ridge
first two are cpu and motherboard models
So basically rebuild my entire PC from the ground up?
half ridge
Should be fine yeah with pbo off
How much does PBO effect Performance?
serene siren
So basically rebuild my entire PC from the ground up?
I figured you had the 750W already when I said that
serene siren
How much does PBO effect Performance?
A couple %
mild roost
it's not too bad with pbo off and keep your current pc
half ridge
So not much of a noticeable differece? Im only running a 1440p screen thats 144hz and a VR headset really so if it wont affect that then Im good
serene siren
Yeah not by much
A 7800x3d would probably be your next upgrade
It would improve a fair few 1440p games
half ridge
A 7800x3d would probably be your next upgrade
Ill have to see how the 5900x does. Before with my last GC it was only hitting like 10% usage so hoping itll be more balanced now
serene siren
This is gonna be a weird question, can I map one of my pcie daisy chains from the gpu to the PCIe PD plug on my mobo
sand atlas
What do you mean "map" it?
serene siren
I have 3 pcie 8 pins to my gpu with pigtails
(before you ask, no I don't have any without pigtails)
Am I able to slap the power delivery 6 pin pcie from my motherboard onto one of those pigtails?
It's to enable 60W thunderbolt charging out the motherboard io
sand atlas
So your board needs extra power for that then, I see
sand atlas
Should be good
serene siren
Cos the other option is crimping a double wire into a pinout and making a cable from scratch 
sand atlas
Even if your GPU is running at 500W+ and loading up the cables I know you have a decent PSU that can handle going a little past spec
serene siren
Yeah pretty much
I wasn't so much worried about the load more that it's running a separate draw on that same cable
Like if it bugged the gpu signal at all albeit 33W lol
sand atlas
Electrically speaking it wouldn't matter
sand atlas
The GPU will only pull the power it needs, having extra running through the cable doesn't mean it'll read that
serene siren
Cos yea daisy chaining is common with sata innit
Suppose if I think about it, lots of things
sand atlas
And molex ya
serene siren
Lol
This gx gold has 3 pcie cables
Which is great
But I couldn't find a 4th
I feel like I should've had one but oh well
sand atlas
This is why I paid extra for corsair lol
serene siren
The gx gold wasn't cheap man lol
At the time I needed a 140mm to run 1000W
It's still worth it's weight in gold (kek) so I'm bringing it with each build
sand atlas
Good 1kW units have been really high priced for a few years now, thanks miners
serene siren
Ya I think it was one of the only options actually
You recommended it to me a long time ago
Prolly don't remember
sand atlas
That's entirely likely
sand atlas
Sheeee yeah I can't even remember what I recommended to someone last week
serene siren
Ikr
Me too 💀
But cos I use it I somewhat remember it
This was the unit that freaked out about the XTX and I couldn't work out what it was
I'm sure it was some random bridge cos I haven't had any issue since
supple karma
Cooler master, a good psu brand?
urban tulip
model > brand
sand atlas
Cooler master, a good psu brand?
Cross compare models here https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
supple karma
the Corsair CX750F RGB, 750 Watt, bronze, wouldnt be a bad call? I like rgb, unless theirs a better psu.
sand atlas
That's a B tier PSU, and a bit of an oddity at that.
It's bronze rated, meets the qualifications for silver, and if you turn off the rgb it's gold.
B tier is fine for up to a 70/700 class GPU in general
supple karma
it would be powering 6800 trio, do plan on getting a new MB later to run a better ryzen, but atm im chillin, I've had this current psu for maybe 3-4 yrs now, surprised its still going.
but its a evga, so it maybe time to upgrade.
sand atlas
6800 non-XT?
supple karma
yes
sand atlas
And which EVGA do you have?
supple karma
650 gold, +80 gq, not the best.
sand atlas
That's also a B tier but you could run the 6800 on it probably, depending on whether you want to overclock and what CPU you have
supple karma
cpu atm 5600x ryzen 5. I dont think I can put anything else on this mb w/o upgrading it. Which fine, considering the cpu is great. Least for what im playing.
guess i could do a 3dx, but probably more worth for upgrade mb for a ryzen 7 7700x per say.
sand atlas
You don't need to upgrade the PSU in that case, that's a very low power chip. The CPU and GPU combined would use about 300W, spikes to around 400W, leaving plenty of room for the rest of the system.
sand atlas
guess i could do a 3dx, but probably more worth for upgrade mb for a ryzen 7 770...
I'd even wait and see how the 8000 series does. 7000 isn't a huge upgrade unless you're at 1080p.
Everything I've heard about Intel 14th gen is bad so that's probably out.
supple karma
ive always been an amd user, but that sounds fair, my mb is 470x msi plus, so I mean I'd have to upgrade to use 7000/800 series anyhow. But Piece by piece. lol
sand atlas
I got X470 too. It turned out to be a great choice overall. The issues from the first gen AM4 were fixed and it supported every AM4 chip that exists.
Which is also why I say wait for next gen AMD. Second gen AM5 I expect to have similar benefits.
supple karma
You talking about the AM5 boards? I believe those are out now, unless youre meaning the next ver.?
sand atlas
AM5 is the current gen socket, with 600 series chipsets like X670 and B650
Next gen will still be the same AM5 socket, with 700 series chipsets like X770 and B750
mild roost
You can use A620 with the high end am5 chips
As long as it's got a heatsink
And you don't care about the bleh i/o
sand atlas
Mmm yes I too love pushing 250W through 4 50A stages
mild roost
Well as long as you use eco mode and co
bleak holly
Mmm yes I too love pushing 250W through 4 50A stages
👁️ 👁️
mild roost
Limit cpu's perf and optimize it as much as you can
bleak holly
What is ECO mode?
mild roost
Copium yes but doable
Well it's in the bios for am5 cpus
Does what it says
cuts down consumption
bleak holly
what does ECO stand for on PSU?
mild roost
I don't recc this but I definitely feel 7800X3D is doable
Eco mode on psu just means fan off
sand atlas
It limits the total current of the CPU to what you set it to. 95W eco mode is some of the best efficiency we've ever seen, with the 7950X coming right after the 5950X in efficiency.
mild roost
ye
bleak holly
So ECO is a power limiter?
sand atlas
On the CPU it is
bleak holly
What about other components?
sand atlas
On the PSU it's just a switch that tells the fan if it should be on or off when idle
sand atlas
Yes. It saves power by not spinning it. Hence the name.
bleak holly
Will it spin if the PSU starts running hot?
sand atlas
Yes
mild roost
ya
mild roost
It's not gonna let the psu overheat
bleak holly
Kinda loving not hearing fan noises now that I am no longer using an CLC aio.
urban tulip
Imo, it's a balance between having fan noise and the innvetibal coil whine
obsidian oyster
Whats a good case to pair with the z690
mortal urchin
@sand atlas I bought a used thermaltake view 51 snow full tower case but I didn't get all the cords able to synce my case fans with my motherboard is there a way I could purchase that cord or full hub cord set to replace mine
blissful thistle
Whats a good case to pair with the z690
Z690 is a line of motherboards, there are many different models and sizes
obsidian oyster
Z690 is a line of motherboards, there are many different models and sizes
oh its a atx size
My fault, I was trying to find a decently priced one from others recommendations
blissful thistle
G360a is a personal favorite case, depends on some of the rest of the pc too tho
fierce pivot
G360a is a great option yeah, depending on the country though, deepcool ck560/cg560 and corsair 4000d airflow can make decent alternatives
scenic lance
what are some good white rgb fans
scenic lance
u use them?
sand atlas
No but they're well regarded by professional testers
We have a list in the pins for #old-cooling
scenic lance
sand atlas
I don't like RGB personally
scenic lance
i like rbg personally 
bleak holly
I like ARGB personally.
edgy flume
I currently have a crappy 550W PSU and im trying to upgrade it to my HX750i but it has no cords, How would i go about finding cords that work with it
mild roost
I currently have a crappy 550W PSU and im trying to upgrade it to my HX750i but ...
Can you tell which type cables it uses? Corsair lists which of their cable sets works with the newer psus
It should be on the connector side of the psu
edgy flume
Can you tell which type cables it uses? Corsair lists which of their cable sets ...
Itll say what type it uses?
mild roost
Yeah
mild roost
kk
edgy flume
Nope
edgy flume
alright
mild roost
ok
Here is the list
Look at the "ALL HXI" column
Seems to use a mix of type 3 and type 4
Buy accordingly
edgy flume
So it uses both?
mild roost
Ya
edgy flume
also does it matter brand wise what i buy
slate creek
Any good deals on PSUs that could handle a 6950xt?
CPU is a 10700k and I’m planning to push both OCing
slate creek
Damn those some beefy ass connectors
I remember someone recommending the Enermax rev DF, would you get the super flower one over it?
mild roost
yeup
Yes
revo df is more expensive lol
Might as well go with a plat psu that's on sale
slate creek
It was $120 iirc
mild roost
full price seems to be 300
but it's regularly on sale for almost half the price
so overall it's very much worth it tbh
slate creek
I’m looking on the tier list for that PSU, and I don’t see it at all
Nvm found it under low priority A tier
Not sure how I feel about that
slate creek
Too late, cancelled it and got an RMX1000 for $190
Didn’t feel too happy that it had 20AWG for the PCIE cables and that it really could only handle up to 100.8% of its rated wattage
timid basin
Didn’t feel too happy that it had 20AWG for the PCIE cables and that it really c...
20awg is only for the second connector, other part is true
and I did talk with SF about that, they noted that they plan to change that, but I haven't checked my own sample on the wire gauge manually, nor do I have it on hand anymore
slate creek
and I did talk with SF about that, they noted that they plan to change that, but...
Would you say it was a good idea to switch to the RMx1000?
sand atlas
RMx is always a good choice if you have the budget for it
timid basin
Would you say it was a good idea to switch to the RMx1000?
in those regards, definitely
https://cultists.network/11395/fsp-hydro-g-pro-atx-3-0-review/ sidenote: review of a unit FSP sent me is out
spiral flower
I wonder if Corsair is as nice about their cases as Noctua is with their mounting kits. Bought a used 800D for 50 bucks and its missing all the pcie slot covers. and the front IO access panels are beat up.
candid moth
You can buy pcie slot covers, might not match current ones but if they're all missing it'd be fine. Not sure about front IO but I don't think they would unless it's covered in a warranty
vocal tree
I'm really happy with my Thermaltake H18TG for including reusable slot covers instead of popouts
That's just not really a thing otherwise in that price bracket of cases I don't think
sullen island
Hi
I don't understand how to connect the f-panel connector from my lancool 216 to my gigabyte z790 ud ac.... power button don't work but I can power the machine with a screwdriver...
sullen island
Forget that I got it. I think I was not strong enough or I was scared to push the pin... 😅
scenic lance
Lian li o11 dynamic with mesh front panel
Or nzxt h9 elite
What would have better cooling
blissful thistle
o11 by far
serene siren
Yeah o11 easily
fierce pivot
O11 but h9 does come with some fans and is sometimes cheaper
devout onyx
O11 but h9 does come with some fans and is sometimes cheaper
H9 stock fans are good but you could get better
fierce pivot
Yeah def but fans can add price quick enough
bleak holly
Especially if you go with LianLi fans.
serene siren
P12's 
bleak holly
P12's <:teri_smug:723908622790164500>
...... Arctic P12/P14s are expensive in Mexico.
serene siren
...... Arctic P12/P14s are expensive in Mexico.
Not really...
https://www.amazon.com.mx/ARCTIC-Pressure-optimed-Ventilador-Paquete-P/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=mp_s_a_1_3
$40 usd which is about the same as US for a 5 pack
bleak holly
R.I.P I wish that were the case when I bought mine.
When I was buying the fans, only 1 and 3 packs were available with 3 packs being $45 a pop.
serene siren
P12's and P14's sell out regularly
scenic lance
Air cooler or aio?
tulip granite
Air cooler or aio?
depends the cpu
blissful thistle
Air cooler or aio?
Almost always air, id only go aio for 13700k+ or 7900x/x3d and up as well as doing multi core loads
scenic lance
So air has better temperatures?
blissful thistle
There is no answer to that unless you're comparing two specific items
A 240mm aio is better than some air coolers, but costs$100+ for a decent model and is matched or beaten by the$45 ps120 se
I'd only get an aio if getting 280mm or bigger, and I'd only go for that if you have a 13900k/7950x3d/7900x3x for gaming, or any of those plus 13700k/7900x/7950x for multi core loads
sand atlas
AIO has better idle temps but a nice $60-80 air cooler can have the same load temps as a $100 240mm AIO
fierce pivot
40$ now thanks to thermalright which is insane
spiral flower
You guys think it would be okay to use the 8-pin cpu cable extension that came with my case if I bought the same brand power supply (both corsair)?
sand atlas
You guys think it would be okay to use the 8-pin cpu cable extension that came w...
Extensions are universal, it's replacement cables that are specific to each PSU
Corsair additionally has a nice compatibility list on their site
smoky jungle
hi
orchid ether
would an nh d15 handle a 120 watt 7800x3d well?
sand atlas
Watts aren't the whole story but yes
Just be prepared for it to run at 95C because that's what it's designed to do
fierce pivot
Also you shouldn't buy a d15 these days as there's just as good/better cheaper options like the thermalright ft120/phantom spirit 120, deepcool ag620/ak620
Also it actually works okay with a wraith cooler
sand atlas
Especially now that you can use curve optimizer on it
Undervolt ftw
I've heard many samples can do -30 on most or all cores because it's already a lower frequency and Zen 4 is super efficient
serene siren
https://youtu.be/lgiBcD7bBaw
I feel like I said this before but all X3D runs well on air due to poor thermal transfer
Like really well
vocal tree
Poor thermal transfer
serene siren
Ye, thicc ihs
vocal tree
So it's always stewing in its own heat? 
vocal tree
F
sand atlas
7800X3D runs on a wraith box cooler without throttling in cinebench
It got to 86 but still, that's not the limit of 89 and it didn't lose any performance.
serene siren
Ye
olive geode
has anybody ever been able to control fan speed on the Montech Air X ARGB?
mild roost
bios
serene siren
has anybody ever been able to control fan speed on the Montech Air X ARGB?
if they're molex fans, probably not
controllable fans have a small, very small plug on the cable
thick plug? molex
molex is usually 1 speed
on or off 💀
sand atlas
If it's molex you can add in a controller that basically puts an adjustable resistor (potentiometer) to change the voltage, and therefore speed.
You'd want a case with a 5.25" bay if you're going old school like that. That's a classic solution.
serene siren
I'd have no clue about any of that ngl
sand atlas
No school like the old school https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07VCKRQX4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_ZaF7FbZFCJ5K3
You'd get molex to 3 pin adapters for the fans, and add the fans to that controller
Or just take those molex to 3 pin adapters and plug it into the mobo, and cope with not having a tachometer readout
serene siren
rpm is just a funny number anyway
mild roost
old school way is sometimes the best
sand atlas
Right, fans like that you always know what speed they are anyway. Quiet: it's off. Loud: low speed. Jet engine: max speed.
I miss the days of having random controller cards sticking out the front of my pc
mild roost
your own personal server
serene siren
@sand atlas you're gonna make me into a writer even yet
mild roost
without actually being one
sand atlas
Those were the same days as gigantic side fans, too bad glass panels ruined that fun. Acrylic wasn't that bad 
I don't miss having two options for rgb: blue or BLUE
There was no off
sand atlas
Yeah you could see the 4 giant LEDs shining through the clear fan body
mild roost
i might be born in 2004 but i have seen those things enough to remember
sand atlas
No one knew what diffusing meant then
mild roost
thailand wasn't up to date with tech back then lmao
most people ran crappy old pcs from 2001
sand atlas
I ran a crappy old PC from 1999 until I got a laptop in 2008
I still have and use that laptop
Single core processor baby
mild roost
i lost my first crappy pc
it ran some celeron
probs p3 era
a flood hit thailand and yeah, that was it for the pc
good ol beige pc destroyed
sand atlas
Oof. That would be a great nostalgia PC to dig out and play old games if it could have been saved.
mild roost
it was covered in mud
sand atlas
I've been genuinely considering buying a new windows 98se pc
I'm bringin floppy back
And that's new as in new
sand atlas
I rebuilt an old Vista machine to give to my wife to do retro gaming. I couldn't get anything older at the time.
c2005
mild roost
vista, ah yes
the unfortunate windows
i would say it's actually an okay os, just released too soon
sand atlas
Vista had a hard life. Even if you had a machine that easily met the specs, if the hardware wasn't specifically designed to run Vista you were screwed.
sand atlas
Printer support was the most atrocious thing ever though since literally none of them were compatible for like 2 years
mild roost
it improved upon everything
so many features
i'm not very nostalgic of it, but using it is a decent experience
i don't miss the task manager of that era tho
it's cluttered
sand atlas
At least the modern one organizes by foreground, background, and system tasks
mild roost
still sucks, but it looks better and easier to use
mild roost
newest rendition of it on win 11 is confusing af at worst
okay at best
idk why they have to minimize the tabs to icons
it makes my brain struggle to register where i am supposed to go
it's a zero step forward, two steps back
mild roost
the selection bar on the left
the icons being minimal makes me struggle to find the right tab i want to access
always takes a few clicks
sand atlas
Hmmmmmmm
mild roost
i'm on latest win 11 build btw
sand atlas
Isn't this the one from 10? Wonder why I was allowed to keep it on 11?
mild roost
also that's the one from 10 ya
sand atlas
Lol I stayed on 21H2
sand atlas
It fails if I try to install 22H2 so it eventually gave up
mild roost
rip
sand atlas
I really should do a clean install someday
mild roost
For my case I did a clean install
sand atlas
I can't sleep, reboot, or shut down normally any more. I have to hold shift while I do restart to get to the advanced menu.
mild roost
Oof
sand atlas
I really, really should do that clean install
mild roost
windows having the big dumb
sand atlas
Luckily the only thing on my C drive is my OS and a couple programs
Programs that I would need if one of my other drives failed, like firefox and my backup software
mild roost
I have my program and driver installers in my hdd
Games too
I tried being lazy and using macrium to move backup
sand atlas
I have 6 drives in my system 
mild roost
Lo and behold, no drivers works
Had to reinstall all of em
I was just lazy and feeling stupid
sand atlas
2 of my drives are in raid 0 so I guess they count as 1
1 drive with double the failure chance, lezduit
mild roost
cluster would be more of a correct term in this case
sand atlas
It's hardware assisted raid 0
Though I suppose you could look at it like a cluster
That's what ZFS calls it iirc
mild roost
meanwhile i hope no power outages happens when i do get myself a new phone
i need to flash it to convert it to a version with carrier bands i need
wouldn't want it to lose signal in some areas needing lower frequency band
if it fails, it'll be a paperweight of glass slab
sand atlas
That's pretty easy to fix if you do get an error transmitting the rom
Since ideally you'd adb push the file and run it locally on the device
mild roost
this thing will hard brick if flashing process gets interrupted
needing some specialized software, which is paid
sand atlas
So the less than ideal way, fun
mild roost
it's an lg
they make it hard lmao
the only way you can flash official os roms is through their own software
sand atlas
mild roost
free, and modified by the community to have dev mode hack enabled
no ota for carrier models
sand atlas
My Verizon G7 never got an official root method
mild roost
oof
sand atlas
It was pain
sand atlas
Ah so just after the G7
sand atlas
You want mine?
mild roost
at least not without relying on ebay
vocal tree
my sprint g7 doesn't work with any other carrier because sprint
mild roost
uhh, no thanks
sand atlas
At least the Sprint model had a way to root and flash custom roms to get around that
mild roost
i'm getting a refurb one for as little as $100 here
sand atlas
Verizon locked the F out of that bootloader
mild roost
i don't need custom rom or loot per se
but i do need newer rom
android 9 min
8 is the min for youtube app these days
thankfully v30's last update is on android 9
i just need to convert it
vocal tree
1440p screen tho
sand atlas
V30 was less powerful so they could cram more battery into it thanks to smaller PCB
vocal tree
sounds fake
vocal tree
i foorgor whayt features of their newer phomes were sucky
mild roost
lol
the v30 is basically the phone for audiophiles, only ones that likes to tinker with their phones tho
quad dac
i don't care about that myself, but it's a cool thing to flex about i guess
mild roost
ye they all have that
but it only works with official rom
otherwise the dac is inactive
vocal tree
f
mild roost
i'm gonna try to convert my v30 to canadian version
vocal tree
my jack is busted anyways 😭
mild roost
doesn't have the fastest 4g band, but i can live with it having low and mid frequencies
should have coverage in anywhere
i could try hong kong rom, but it might not work with us model
as in the modem being different
sand atlas
Too bad you can't just swap the kernel around
sand atlas
Pixel master race, just sayin
vocal tree
i wish phoners operating systems worked like desktop
sand atlas
i wish phoners operating systems worked like desktop
You can install Linux on them
USB C hub, keeb and mouse, you're set
mild roost
my carrier uses band 1,3,5,8 and 41, which is reserved for malls and stuff when the phone supports that band
it's the highest frequency wave
the canadian has all that but 41
sand atlas
You mean like regular lifetime updates? Or what?
mild roost
it's pixel or nothing
sand atlas
Yeah pixel has lifetime support effectively
mild roost
nothing else has great freedom and ease like pixel
no locked stuff bs
or weird packages
on pixel i would just be happy with stock lmao
they get very long support
sand atlas
The first pixel supports the latest android last I checked
mild roost
2 xl still has recent android version
12 or 13, i don't quite remember
i don't want first pixel tbh, too old for modern standards now
sd 821 doesn't cut it
sand atlas
Ah the original pixel got it's last update late 2019
mild roost
sprint v30 has all the bands i want, but i don't want any nasty sprint stuff lmao
vocal tree
I'd only want a pixel if it had a new soc and a jack
mild roost
pixel 2 xl is fine for me, but the availability is sad now
i don't wanna wait on ebay shipping
might as well get v30 and only wait 2 days
pixel 2xl batt replacement is also a nightmare
mild roost
lol
vocal tree
💀
sand atlas
I hate insomnia
mild roost
pixel 2 xl also needs the screen to separate from the body to allow batt replacement
i don't wanna kill the screen, y'know
sand atlas
Oh yeah been there broke that
Slip my spudger under when I thought it was hot enough and CRACK
sand atlas
Same with G7
mild roost
i just gotta be careful with the batt
there's screen and its ribbon cable underneath
might need copious amounts of iso alc
not that I will need to replace the batt soon, but just in case
if the batt dies before 1 year, i can just rma
sand atlas
I remember trying to change the battery in an iphone once. Apple really does everything they can to make sure you can't service things. To remove the battery you have to effectively destroy the heat shielding. It'll never go back on flat. And replacements are a huge pain because one wrinkle and it's ruined too.
mild roost
apple made it real bad ever since batt and screen got hardware registered
sand atlas
Yeah this was even before that point and it was still bad
mild roost
true
sand atlas
insert "never again" meme here
sand atlas
Hey maybe they're doing the smart route and contracting with NDB
That would be epic if they could say they got the first nuclear batteries and you only need to charge once a week with active use
sand atlas
Samsung is already going to put those in their watch, it'll never need a charge
sand atlas
If they have something constructive to add to the battery space, fine. I'd be ok with that. If they're doing it solely to prevent third party batteries, F them.
mild roost
Samsung is helping apple eliminate third party batts "infringing" battery patents by trying to enforce customs law
It is exactly that
In the case made by Samsung, all the pictures presented aren't related to them
But iPhone 12 batteries
And iPhone 12 itself
Even the websites with source of said infringing batteries mainly focuses on apple products
sand atlas
There's a lot of expletives I would like to say to Tim
Between him and Elon I'd get a year's worth out of my system
mild roost
I like yellow iphone 14, but I can't support Apple with this practice
Apple has always had a pilot battery r&d plant
Testing their own batteries in limited batches
If anything goes to plan, 2027-2029 is the year they will be able to produce their own battery
Oh also, if this passes, and the battery being hard to verify whether it is infringing or not
It means all third party batteries won't be allowed through the customs
At least for US customs
source of info
it's also about screens
like arrangement of pixels
sand atlas
If anything goes to plan, 2027-2029 is the year they will be able to produce the...
Joke's on them Samsung is planning NDB by then, let Apple rot on the branch
sand atlas
2030 we'll have NDB cars if it goes to plan
sand atlas
Negative waste even, since it uses depleting nuclear waste in the cells
sand atlas
Yeah from a battery perspective, you could take it out and carry it forward to a new car
No risk of fires you can't put out like with lithium
sand atlas
A full battery bank for a car would give off less radiation than a human being
sand atlas
Yep an old cell phone has more rads lol
mild roost
what if the batt gets damaged though
sand atlas
It doesn't catch fire like lithium does
sand atlas
The cells would be arranged in a way that damage to one side of the pack, even on the high voltage line, would leave you with power from the other undamaged parts
That's a super easy thing to do
Isolate 4 distinct cells
mild roost
sounds reasonable then
a safe, everlasting battery
the stuff around it would be far gone before the thing even degrades
sand atlas
Oh yeah that car is rusting out before you get to half life
Recyclers wouldn't let that happen ofc, reusable parts and all
mild roost
this would also mean infinite power for housing
sand atlas
On a larger scale yes that would be possible
A lot more diamond would be needed for that though
mild roost
no more paying electricity
sand atlas
Luckily it's all cheap lab grown diamond
mild roost
yeah and we can make more, the tech uses artificial diamond
not the ones to shine on your rings
imagine the future where everyone doesn't need power grids
and has their own diamond battery packs powering their houses
everything can be powered by just a battery cell at that point, if we manage to scale it for anything
sand atlas
It sounds like something out of a science fiction and I love that it's real
mild roost
exactly
we are reaching the point where sci fi is becoming real, even if only a part of it
no more dangerous power plugs
mild roost
no more ground issues
no more power outages
just put it on anything that uses electricity
sand atlas
We're getting close on cold fusion too
What a time to be alive
They got a small scale generator to produce more power than it took to run
sand atlas
Just replace all the insulation in your walls with batteries and you can still use the plugs
sand atlas
Probably insulates better too
mild roost
can't hear a thing outside
but tbh
not dealing with plugs would be amazing
but do keep plugs for old equipments
sand atlas
Now if the bureaucrats could keep their hands off long enough for it to leap forward that would be great
sand atlas
Oil companies have them pretty deep in their pockets
olive geode
No school like the old school https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07VCKRQX4/ref=cm_sw_r...
Damn. So I clicked on this but it says it's unavailable. Also where do I get those molex adapters?
sand atlas
I don't think we ever figured out what connector the fans use actually
Post a pic of the connector if it looks like it won't fit that
olive geode
Here's the connector for power to the fans
This seems to be the only place to plug it in
Idk what this is for or if it's something I should worry about or if it's even relevant
sand atlas
This seems to be the only place to plug it in
Correct
sand atlas
Idk what this is for or if it's something I should worry about or if it's even r...
That's the RGB, but a proprietary connector. There should be a controller or adapter somewhere.
olive geode
olive geode
Is the controller the issue?
tame cape
Skill issue jk
What's the "in vdg" connector for?
It's usually for RGB but your hub seems like to not have the right connector for it
serene siren
~~Skill issue~~ jk
What's the "in vdg" connector for?
olive geode
there doesn't seem to be a place for me to plug the in vdg
sand atlas
There usually isn't, it's a proprietary plug
What does the rest of the cord look like? If there's another rgb plug then it's probably just optional.
olive geode
It looks like this, and I already have that plugged in
sand atlas
Yep VDG is optional then.
olive geode
so if I want to control fan speeds I'll need a splitter or another controller?
sand atlas
I see fans plugged into the controller in the pic above, you'd just need to plug the controller into your motherboard
Should be two plugs, one for rgb and one for speed
olive geode
Yeah those are plugged in
tame cape
Yep, it's optional, it's just connected to the other more common 3 pin RGB connector probably to have more compatibility with other RGB hubs or motherboards
olive geode
I got the RGB set up (tho all the fans counts as one thing - the motherboard - in the RGB Fusion thing I got) I'm trying to gain control of the fan speeds.
sand atlas
You do that in bios usually
It'll be controlled by whichever header you plugged the controller into
You can technically use the gigabyte software but it's kinda trash
olive geode
Oof, that's my motherboard's manufacturer
Also in BIOS nothing I do there affects the fans; it also shows 0 RPM there too
scenic eagle
i need some Help with deciding on a Case that has good airflow for about 70€, can someone help me with that?
i think that is good right: Beam-G-BK-v2 Midi-Tower, Tempered Glass - black
sand atlas
What country?
scenic eagle
i'm in Germany (south)
because i have my main rig that i'm currently using has a case that chokes my fans when putting the Case front plate on. i'm getting for a Different PC
sand atlas
One of these would be ideal, they're all great cases https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/MJjNnQ,ZT4BD3,WvXJ7P,6bbTwP/
scenic eagle
i forgot to say: the Cooler the Motherboard has the Noctua NH-U12P SE2
the height of it is 158mm
scenic eagle
well, to get to the ground, i was getting a Case that i can give a Classmate a Good deal for a "okay" PC compared to his laptop
sand atlas
Fractal fits it
scenic eagle
ok, thanks for helping me. i never actually built PC that i know what parts a good 😅
sand atlas
That's what we're here for, happy to help
scenic eagle
thanks 🙂
sand atlas
i think that is good right: Beam-G-BK-v2 Midi-Tower, Tempered Glass - black
I just realized I never answered this, yes this one looks good too
scenic eagle
I just realized I never answered this, yes this one looks good too
ok, i have found that one on CaseKing
btw, is it better than the Be Quiet Dark Base 700?
on airflow
sand atlas
Definitely. Mesh is always better than a solid panel.
sand atlas
No wonder it's choking
scenic eagle
well, i took off the front panel due to that
in case i should remove that, please notify me on that then.
that is my Current PC:```
Mainboard: ─ ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI) (Nuvoton NCT6798D)
PSU: ─ Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Power Supply, Black 1000W 80 Plus Gold
CPU: ─ Intel Core i9 10900K @3.7GHz Base Frequency
CPU Cooler: ─ Noctua nh-u12a
RAM: ┬1. 16GB DDR4 @3000MHz
└2. 16GB DDR4 @3000MHz
GPU: ┬1. Intel UHD Graphics 630
└3. Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 TI TUF Gaming from Asus
System drive: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 (S4EWNM0NC25426B)
Internal HDD: ┬Western Digital 1TB SATA 3.5 Hard Drive
└Seagate Pipeline HD.2 Series SATA 3.5 Hard Drive 250GB
External storage that should be actually in case:┬ Drevo X1 Sata 3 60GB
├ Toshiba THNSNH128GBST SSD 2.5 128GB
├ Tobisha External USB 3.0 Device 1TB
└ WD Elements 25A2 USB Device 2TB
case: ─ be Quiet! Dark Base 700 Window Highend PC Case LED Lighting BGW23
the Case i'm gonna get is for a Different PC as i mentioned, but i can then get a Better case then too already.Not bad at all, once you get a better case.
scenic eagle
yeah, i'm force shoving air through rn
all case fans at Full blast. and one fan (12v) is even running on roughly 20V (±0.8V)
sand atlas
That's a quick way to burn a motor
scenic eagle
yea, i just recently lubricated it.
the fans themselves are decent (that came with the case)
the PC in question i'm building in to the Case has a 850W PSU (plenty for the combo of parts.) [parts list queued]
fringe granite
can anyone ID this case? they say it's a DAN-A4 SFF v4, doesn't look like an exact match to me
lofty pewter
can anyone ID this case? they say it's a DAN-A4 SFF v4, doesn't look like an exa...
Did they mod it?
fringe granite
they said it was modded for an external 240mm rad
lofty pewter
Quick glace looked like a modded Dan A4 tbf, but I could be wrong.
spiral flower
Anyone have any ideas on what these front panel connectors are? The AC'97 connector is daisy chained to the HD Audio connector. Never heard of 1394 before.
sand atlas
Anyone have any ideas on what these front panel connectors are? The AC'97 conn...
Been a long time since I've seen 1394 Firewire. AC '97 is an old standard, only used if there's no HD audio.
sand atlas
For a sense of age, I have a firewire port on my HP Z420 that has an X79 platform
It's been around since a little before vista
spiral flower
Yeah I think my case is from '09. I pulled the sata hard drive bay connectors off and it showed they were put in July 2009.
tight axle
Looking for an atx case preferably white that comes with at least 2 fans and dust filters
I’m currently considering the lancool 216 is there any other cases to consider around that price
sand atlas
Any other needs, like front USB C or large GPU support? I'd probably recommend a Fractal Pop Air
The 216 is decent too though
Maybe the G360A in white https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tcnypg/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dmw02
Pop XL model has more fans included https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xdRYcf/fractal-design-pop-xl-air-atx-full-tower-case-fd-c-por1x-01
If you want to save a few bucks there's this one too https://pcpartpicker.com/product/prWzK8/montech-x3-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-x3-mesh-white
tight axle
Any other needs, like front USB C or large GPU support? I'd probably recommend a...
Clearance for a 160mm air cooler and 300mm for gpu but these cases seem to clear that. Thank you very much for the the help
I’m liking the look of the pop air xl I’ll probably go for that
sand atlas
Happy to help
spare dune
Hey...PSU question. I am wondering what wattage power supply I need for my upcoming build.
I will have an i7-13700k paired with an RTX 3080 12GB. A 360MM Corsair water cooler as well. I have a phanteks amp 750W 80+gold and wondering if that will be sufficient for the upgraded build?
Or should I go to 850watt? Or maybe 1000watts?
elfin trout
Phanteks amp 750w should be okay in general, assuming you've bought it within about the last 2 years
spare dune
Yeah. Feb 2021 is when I got it. Will it be stable enough to not worry about my PC being unstable or part damage?
elfin trout
In theory it should be just fine, as long as you don't overclock much, it shouldn't trip
spare dune
Thanks
sand atlas
Modern driver versions have mostly fixed the transient spikes so yes 750W will be good with a 3080 now
scenic lance
How many 120mm fans can I shove into the Corsair 4000D Airflow?
blissful thistle
Afaik atleast 6
scenic lance
Thought so, one exhaust, two top, and three front?
That's what I saw with people's builds, so I just went ahead and bought six 120mm's
fierce pivot
Thought so, one exhaust, two top, and three front?
Yep
scenic lance
what are good led strips for the inside of cases, and is there guides on how to install them
i literally just want one so it doesnt look like a cave
spare dune
Modern driver versions have mostly fixed the transient spikes so yes 750W will b...
Cool, even with a 3080 12gb and an i7-13700k a good 750watt PSU will still be fine?
On top of that a Corsair h150i elite capellix xt I know will also draw power?
scenic lance
So peeps I just found out about nzxt h9 elite, what's better that one or lian li white versions?
blissful thistle
On top of that a Corsair h150i elite capellix xt I know will also draw power?
Yes it'll be fine
fierce pivot
ram,coolers etc take up negligible energy
spiral flower
Is it important to keep the 10th motherboard standoff in the case, when I look at the picture for the motherboard it only has 9?
sand atlas
ATX size motherboards only use 9
E-ATX might use more
Chances are the extra is just an extra just in case
spiral flower
Weird, I have no idea why my case has a 10th one in-between two rows of screws.
sand atlas
Probably for different size motherboards that use different hole patterns
spiral flower
Ah yeah I see it now "eATX"
spiral flower
Does the red plastic cap mean anything on the 3 way PWM splitter or can I just plug them in any configuration?
sand atlas
Does the red plastic cap mean anything on the 3 way PWM splitter or can I just p...
The red one is probably the one that'll be reporting RPM to bios, the other ones are usually missing that third pin (tachometer)
tropic dune
got a friend looking for a good ATX full tower w/ good airflow, room for plenty of fans (esp up top), tempered glass side, and her price range max's out at $300, any suggestions?
fierce pivot
phanteks g500a, dont spend a dime more than 160$ tbh anything after that you might as well burn the money
tropic dune
that was what i told her (price wise) but she is intent on "whatever the best case is, no matter the price" 🙄
bleak holly
that was what i told her (price wise) but she is intent on "whatever the best ca...
Well there you go.
@tropic dune it contains 2220mm in length worth of radiator space for the "Ultimate PC where price is no issue"
tropic dune
<@230856383849955331> it contains 2220mm in length worth of radiator space for t...
yeah she said $300 max tho, so it's a lil higher than what she is willing to go with. I suggested a Corsair 5000D Airflow or Vetroo MESH6, but she is looking at this one https://www.amazon.com/Anidees-Crystal-Tempered-Radiator-Stripsx2/dp/B07NW42KN9
bleak holly
yeah she said $300 max tho, so it's a lil higher than what she is willing to go ...
This is a joke....
Those fans are getting choked by a large amount.
Purely for flash that case.
tropic dune
i just wanna shake her for wanting that Anidees case
and i know your case link was a joke, but i would not put it past her anyways
bleak holly
and i know your case link was a joke, but i would not put it past her anyways
By bad, I was calling the anidees case a joke.
The Haf 700 evo case is actually extremely good, just also stupidly expensive.
Try explaining to her that the Anidees case she's looking at due to the front panel being solid glass and the air intakes being super thin, it will mean these things:
- Fans must run much faster just to get a fraction of their base speed's airflow which also causes the pc to be far far louder at idle and under load
bleak holly
The Haf 700 evo case is actually extremely good, just also stupidly expensive.
I will probably use this or the thermaltake tower 100 when I look into full on custom water cooling.
bleak holly
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What PSU do you guys recommend for a server?
Currently running a I7-10700f and looking to pair it with a gt210 for a gpu to make it run, also I'd prefer it to have enough wattage so it can handle something like a 7950x or 13900k in the future as a server.
Needs to be on amazon.com.mx and I'd prefer as cheap as possible.
Thanks in advance.
sand atlas
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What PSU do you guys recommend for a server?
Currently running a I7-10700f an...
"Cheap as possible" and "can handle a 13900k" are pretty conflicting requests lol
But without having to worry about a GPU any C tier unit like this should do fine
bleak holly
https://www.amazon.com.mx/XPG-Alimentaci%C3%B3n-Modular-Certificaci%C3%B3n-PYLON...
Thank you!
slate creek
yeah she said $300 max tho, so it's a lil higher than what she is willing to go ...
Lancool III Mesh is a 10/10
Nvm it ain’t a full tower
tropic dune
she went with this one after all the stuff i told her and shared that you folks mentioned
https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00GU-000J6?Item=9SIA4REJU71521
blissful thistle
$270 on a case is vile
elfin trout
looks like a meshify 2 but upscaled to enthoo pro 2 size lol
sand atlas
It seems like that snaps shut to me
fierce pivot
Looks like the panel is just ever so slightly too forward, did you lineup the front bits first?
remote inlet
how much does this go for nowadays? been using it for a couple years now but got a new one , gonna either sell to a friend or just give but just curious to know price
elfin trout
Probably something around 150-200$
P2 1300w has been on b stock for around 200$ before
And P2 1200w has been on b stock for 170$ before
remote inlet
ahh okay cool thank you
bleak holly
how much does this go for nowadays? been using it for a couple years now but got...
If you don't sell to a friend, I'd be very interested in this as I am upgrading to the 4090 very soon and need a new psu.
Would very much so appreciate it.
sand atlas
How dare they send you a parallelogram instead of a special parallelogram
vocal tree
😭
remote inlet
Would very much so appreciate it.
I’ll let you know but unlikely D: homie was needing a psu
fierce pivot
how much does this go for nowadays? been using it for a couple years now but got...
I'd say around $120
scenic lance
whats the cheapest decent 600w psu?
elfin trout
No one knows anything about it so