cases-psu-and-cooling

[upbeat dew]

well technically mobo

eps connector is like the pcie connector

is an additional power, the mobo provides power as well

[tame cape]

It's additional?

Ok

But is 3.3v for CPU like converted to the CPU voltage it uses? 1.2-.3...

Does it have specific use

Or connects to specific pins on the CPU?

[upbeat dew]

thats the work of the vrms, they downsize to power specific voltage to the cpu

[fierce pivot]

No fair :(

[tame cape]

But then what's the point of using 12v EPS and not 3.3? Efficiency? Heat? Idk

Or either using 12v instead of the 3.3

[upbeat dew]

to downsize to other voltages thru the vrm

[fierce pivot]

You don't wanna have to go from 12v to 1.2v when you could go from 3.3 to 1.2v

:)

[tame cape]

Wait
My brain is elaborating

[upbeat dew]

there is a whole world inside a cpu architecture, it uses a lot of different voltages, an effin lot to work

[tame cape]

You mean they just use 3.3 because it's better to convert?

[upbeat dew]

you are drowning on a glass of water

[fierce pivot]

Idk the ins and outs exactly but ye something like that

[upbeat dew]

cpus use a lot of different voltages, and the mobo cant power them all, thats why you need the additional eps to provide power to the vrms to downsize voltage to manageable leveles

[tame cape]

I guess 12v is used because less amps = less heat = more efficiency

[upbeat dew]

no, because you can downsize to a more variety of voltages from there

using the vrms

[tame cape]

And with 12v few amperes you can provide many watts (which is required for modern CPUs)

[upbeat dew]

voltages the mobo cant provide directly

[hollow leaf]

So what.im getting from this whole convo is

VRMs

[upbeat dew]

pretty much

[hollow leaf]

Makes sense.

Cant just plug the power line from the street directly into your toaster.

Gotta have something to reduce the load to a level the appliance can use.

[upbeat dew]

your mobo provide a lot of different voltages to your cpu, but when the cpu require more power then the vrms draw that power from the eps, downsizing those 12v to the different voltages your cpu need

[tame cape]

Ok.
I understand.
PSUs and voltages can be complicated sometimes

[tame cape]

Aaah
Nicely explained

Good

[upbeat dew]

buildzoid have a nice video o_O about vrms and how they work

check that out

[tame cape]

Could you link it?

[upbeat dew]

well, that explain how vrm and power phases work, maybe is not what you want xD

[tame cape]

It's ok, just more knowledge

[upbeat dew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRHV3qtSWc ok

time to bed 😄

cy later nerds

[tame cape]

Bye

Thanks btw

[lavish crypt]

Fractal Design Meshify 2 RGB vs Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB

Which one is better? Thanks.

[elfin trout]

Meshify 2 RGB, 5000d airflow is better performing than 5000x

[lavish crypt]

$135 Corsair 5000x (corsair can send out airflow panel for free or for like 10$ on there store) from tech-deals

[elfin trout]

Meshify 2 ends up generally being better in standardized fan testing, so I'd take meshify 2 still unless it's a lot more expensive

[lavish crypt]

👌

[tame cape]

🤢 😂

[blissful thistle]

Gross

[tame cape]

Can't even fit a 240

Wait a second...
How the hell do you plug display out, VDE and MB I/O?

The RGB SSD on top of a PSU is the most cringe thing I've ever seen

no airflow

[serene siren]

Dude why have a 240 when you can 120+120+120+120+120+120+120+120+120

[thorny latch]

There is a lot of airflow but it is just ugly

[misty moat]

I like it

It looks ugly with all the boxy, right angles of the components

[tulip granite]

bro this is perfect for minecraft

[misty moat]

How?

It's a circle

The opposite of computer Lego bricks

[tame cape]

Exactly

[tame cape]

If you put exhaust fans I don't think it will do it's job very nicely

[hollow leaf]

I can dig it

[serene siren]

It can dig too if you took it to a coal mine

[hollow leaf]

[serene siren]

Omfg

[tame cape]

Oh god it really looks like the case 😂

[sharp lintel]

Does anyone know if the msi mpg a gf 650w is a good psu?

I couldn’t find it in the tier list

[mild roost]

it is

[lofty pewter]

Single Rail A

[fierce pivot]

It's value hasn't been very good recently tho

[hollow leaf]

I don't understand the difference between multi rail and single rail in terms of what they do.

[elfin trout]

One central thing that gives out all the power vs multiple different things that give out power to connectors separate of each other

[hollow leaf]

Which is better?

Or is there that big of a difference?

[elfin trout]

Depends

[fierce pivot]

It honestly depends

Dam mr beat me

[elfin trout]

Multi rail can be nicer at 850w+ since it can mean more precise protections for each rail, like for each connector, instead of like the whole 12v rail, but that can also be a bad thing, as we've seen with some seasonic prime units, since each rail gets their own ocp/opp, it can also mean drawing an amount that wouldn't have tripped previously now trips, which can happen with ampere and the huge transients causing problems

[serene siren]

[hollow leaf]

Ah ok. I have the Antec HCG Gold 1kw. So it should be good with the 3080 12gb aye?

[serene siren]

• Mind blown so much brain ocp trips *

[hollow leaf]

Felix got me trippin about a new psu

[serene siren]

You should be fine

But lightning in the same place 3 times with issues you should buy a lottery ticket and swap psu if the pc still trippin lol

[fierce pivot]

[hollow leaf]

I did buy a lottery ticket. 50 of them. I didn't win a single $ back.

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-rubinoff-sportsnet-tim-and-friends-gambling-gambling-addiction-gif-25209205

[lofty pewter]

Ive heard "cool" 1.2kw PSUs trip before (EVGA/SS). Tho that could be from daisy chain 8P + multi rail PSU (Meaning, much easier to trip cuz power isnt split between the low OCP rails), also could just be they used 500w 3090s, not really much info out there.
Also note that if your PSU is old, its based on the old SS platform which is even more sensitive to transients.
Assuming you get a 450w 3080 12gb, prolly be good idea to split up the load between as many rails as possible (should be able to find rail config online). Unlikely to get issues but still apparently possible based on old reports.

[hollow leaf]

I got a 3x8 3080 12gb. My PSU is single rail though

[lofty pewter]

Ah, whoop. I doubt any issues will arise tho. Haven't heard of people complaining about OCP issues for a long time.

[urban tulip]

Gary had some issues with his 3080 (ti?) On a rev df

But that's multi rail only so yeah

[lofty pewter]

What PL was 3080, what DF was it, and did Gary split the load between the rails?

[urban tulip]

P sure it was a 850, not sure on 3080 model, and pretty sure he ended up balancing load

But that's the minor issue with the df

It's got another kinda issue that sucks

[elfin trout]

grill

[urban tulip]

Let's see if you can spot the issue here

[lofty pewter]

Most multi rails wont work well with transient heavy loads on a single rail.

[blissful thistle]

Is that not screwed in

[elfin trout]

upside down setup most fun setup so nothing lost

[urban tulip]

So add the 4000d (airflow) to the list of rev df no good cases

[sand atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-triggering-intensifies-rage-gif-15297552

[urban tulip]

Inwin had some on there

[elfin trout]

so add nothing of value to a list, cool

[urban tulip]

So basically the screw holes won't line up so you either leave it unsecured, who would do that, or just flip it so fan is up

[urban tulip]

Yes, just worth mentioning tho since sometimes it can be a reccomended case

Just something to keep in mind ig so people don't go crazy trying to install it lol

[elfin trout]

i dont reccomended

It's like corsair ram blocking top mount rad in td500 mesh

nothing of value blocking something that's good

[urban tulip]

If it said "phanteks" on it, you'd be shilling the hell out of it tbf

[lofty pewter]

Pic is too dark to really see PSU, but you should be able to screw PSU in. It may not rest on the bottom PSU resting thingies in the case, but it doesn't really need to.

[elfin trout]

man you're forgetting I'm a CM case shill at heart

[urban tulip]

Can't screw it in with fan down

Achilles heal of rev df with some cases

[elfin trout]

I really like td500 mesh and h500

I like them better than phanteks cases

[urban tulip]

Fan grill protrudes so the holes will never line up

[urban tulip]

LCiiM and O11 air mini best cases

[elfin trout]

It's like how I'm a Noctua shill at heart, it's just price doesn't usually line up to the value standards

[urban tulip]

No arguing that

[elfin trout]

i hate you

[lofty pewter]

So PSU is up too high then?

[urban tulip]

Yeah

[elfin trout]

the grill just hits the bottom of the case

[lofty pewter]

Can't remember, is the grill easy to take off?

[urban tulip]

Not at all

P sure it's part of the casing

[elfin trout]

its 4 screws

but I don't think you want to expose what is inside

[urban tulip]

Ah looks like maybe?

Yeah probs

[elfin trout]

esp the fan

fan looks to extrude slightly beyond the 'box' of the PSU

[urban tulip]

just use a hammer

Imo they should've accounted for that with the holes but whatever

[elfin trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty pewter]

Protected by bottom of case. Also fan is def inside case.

Based on that pic

[elfin trout]

dunno

maybe

[urban tulip]

Hei did I ever send you the "BAPC in one screenshot" pic?

[lofty pewter]

Nop

[urban tulip]

Huh

Sending

[fierce pivot]

It does, was actually a pain to take out of pc, had to turn on side n stuff

[thorny kiln]

anyone have the bistpower titan one o11d case?
i gotta figure out how to remove and clean out the distro plate. just @ me

[arctic crest]

Anyone know how to test PSU if it's working properly or not?

Because my computer sometimes doesn't turn on (flickers and turns off) and I'm trying to figure out if it's a psu issue.

I dusted out my pc and it was working fine for like a week or so but now it's acting up again.

[sand atlas]

Could be the motherboard, could be the PSU.
Try updating your BIOS.

[urban tulip]

Could be worth checking all connections are fully seated

[arctic crest]

I looked into updating my bios I'm kind of scared I wasn't able to find compatibility guides and I heard people saying it could damage your data.

[arctic crest]

Alright I'll try that.

It's weird cause when it works it's fine but the moment I try to turn it on there is like a 50% chance of it not turning on.

[sand atlas]

There's no "compatibility guide" because there's only one source for the update that'll work, and that's the exact product support page for the motherboard.
As far as data loss, that's only in extreme and unusual cases like using bitlocker but having no backup keys.

[upbeat dew]

or a blackout in the middle of a bios update :S thats the worst case scenario :S

[lofty pewter]

bitlocker worse then corrupted BIOS, BIOS is pretty easy to flash with external flasher

[sand atlas]

Especially easy when you have flashback

[lofty pewter]

Or dual (backup) BIOS (Mainly GB)

[vagrant lantern]

guys is there a way to connect front io to a dell oem motherboard? ( optiplex mobo )

[arctic crest]

I have no idea what those things are flashback and dual bios.

[sand atlas]

Flashback lets you update bios without a CPU or turning it on fully. Dual bios has two chips instead of one to store the bios data, and you can switch between them as needed.

[sand atlas]

Is it one that has the power button physically attached to the motherboard? If yes, it's possible but will require soldering.

[arctic crest]

Ohh gotcha thank you.

Oh btw for like psu testing do you know of any software I can get to test my psu if it's working properly?

I wanna do that before messing around with my motherboard or buying an actual psu tester.

[sand atlas]

Not anything that'll be able to tell if there's an issue before it boots up, but I usually run furmark and cinebench at the same time to test power draw. Prime95 works for CPU as well. There's also the occt power test that does basically the same thing in a nice UI.

If it's failing to start sometimes a bios update often helps, but it could be a faulty power_good signal from the PSU also.

[weary vine]

power_good is teh same thing as power_ok right?

[sand atlas]

They're interchangeable terms yeah

[vagrant lantern]

idk i saw some video on youtube that says it require a adapter for it but im looking for a way with out it ( maybe a case with out front usb will work )

[arctic crest]

Sorry I took a while to respond but it boots up fine like most of the time after I dusted out my pc. It's only sometimes that it would flicker and turn back off. (Most of the time I am able to turn off psu hold power button then turn back on the psu and the pc.) I know a brief outage occurred with my pc connected directly to the wall but I want some way to test it is actually broken before sending it to coolermaster for a rma. I'll try the occt power test, I think I saw it somewhere on a forum too. Thank you!

[arctic crest]

Imma perform occt power test. I hope my psu doesn't fry. >.<

[river silo]

anyone built in the hyte 60? trying to see if able to to vert mount my 3080 ti strix and not restrict the air flow of it

[tame cape]

Considering the card is basically triple slot, 56mm thick, the airflow may be restricted

[serene siren]

Will be. That case gives breathing room for 2 slot cards but 3 is dead against the glass iirc

[arctic crest]

What metrics do I need to be looking at while testing my psu? My +voltages looked normal last night but this afternoon I was unable to turn on my pc. The lights flickered and turned back off. I had to turn off psu and hold down the power button then turn the psu on to finally turn my pc on again.

My cpu and memory benchmark on OCCT was performing way below average.

[sand atlas]

OCCT is a stability test suite, not a benchmark. If there were no errors then you passed.

[arctic crest]

What should I look for regarding psu voltages and power draw?

All I looked at was the +12 or +5 voltages measurements.

[sweet linden]

is there is a clean , futuristic lookn case that is still a rectangle

am not a fan of the cases with goofy shapes

actuall alot of cases look futuristic

i cant explain how i want it tho

i want cyberpunk like

[sand atlas]

Hyte makes a couple that I think match that description

[timid basin]

software is really not reliable for those kinds of readings

what you had sounds like an OCP shutdown, since it generally requires the PSU to be flipped off and on again

which can be caused by a ton of things

[sand atlas]

My assumption was the power_ok signal, since it would shut off very shortly after trying to power on.
And since you're here, any idea where the EVGA P+ 1300/1600 rank?

[timid basin]

could be too... but normally stuff like that is OVP/OCP/UVP or alike

issue with P+ is that it's really really loud from what I can see

considering the heatsinks on them are basically non-existent

my RMx has more surface area than the 2kw version of that platform

[sand atlas]

Interesting. So it'll probably be relegated to B tier based on that mostly I'm guessing?

[timid basin]

well, we technically don't consider noise a part in the tiering, just in the sub-tiers

but it's more of a there are better options kind of thing

[elfin trout]

Luke, know anything about G2/P2 issues? I remember being told something was wrong with them at one point

[timid basin]

they're mainly just loud, really

fan comes in rather late

[urban tulip]

I remember the g2 550 atleast having a kinda kicker, not sure how far up in G2 models it goes

Was power ok or hold up time related iirc

[arctic crest]

Ah I see. I was hoping to test it with software before sending it to coolermaster for rma because idk if the powersupply is actually the issue.

Regarding PSU to be flipped off and on it's kinda weird also because sometimes it works but other time it just flickers again and powers off.

But someone told me to hold down power button to discharge energy or something and that works like 90% of the time.

Oh yeah I don't know if you read my previous messages as well but a small outage had went through it but idk if that is the issue.

[lofty pewter]

PWR_OK didnt work as intended, just let PSU caps run out and gave voltage drop to the entire system for like >1ms (actual time is not recorded edit: voltage drop time not recorded, PWR_OK to PSU shutoff time was recorded). Its unlikely to kill components, but there is no proof to say if this is harmful to the components. When it was discovered people were much more scared about it then they should've been, so there was lots of noise about the issue. May not be my first recommendation if for someone who gets brownouts ever 5mins due to lack of info, but it's still prolly safe

[hollow leaf]

I'm curious. Is it possible to have my GPU hooked up to another PSU that has nothing else hooked up to it? Would it still work or does it need to be connected to the Mobo still?

[lofty pewter]

Still need to short PS-ON and ground so PSU turns on. For really old PSUs (which idk why you'd be using one, but fun fact ig) you'd need to make sure there is always a load on PSU else PSU turns off (mostly annoying for turning on PC in this specific case).

So yeah it'll work, just need to short two pins on 24P

[hollow leaf]

Is that dangerous? or is it like doing it on the mobo?

I would assume something like putting 1 little wire in 1 pin and same with other then touching them for a split second to turn psu on?

Would it be the same way to turn it off?

[lofty pewter]

No extra danger should be there (apart from the technical stuff like 2x the failure rate cuz 2x the PSUs being used, or like making sure both PSUs are off and mostly depleted before doing maintenance on PC)
As for pin shorting you need to keep them shorted to keep PSU on pretty sure.

[hollow leaf]

Gotcha. So I could essentially make a switch where when flipped, it completes the circuit, then flip again to break the circuit.

I'm kind of entertaining the idea of using this rm 750 for my PC and then using my Antec 1kw for the 4080/4090.

I'd be making sure everything was kosher though for sure.

[lofty pewter]

Should be able to just use PSU back switch. If you like being fancy, then a 24P splitter which shares PS-ON

[hollow leaf]

oh thought even with the psu back switch on, you had to short the ps on?

[hollow leaf]

unless I just misunderstood this

oh I see nowww

that's cool. I'd for sure go that route

[lofty pewter]

Also potentially wont work or be helpful for two main reasons:
-Doesnt help with transient loads much, if ADA is truly transient heavy they ye hecked with 99.999% of 2.0/2.31 PSUs
-Any 12+0P adapter will be limited to 450w, the 4 data pins are required to unlock the 600w limit of the 12+4P cable (lock should be on GPU side). So at max you'll have a 525w GPU with transients prolly being the same as a 500w - 550w 3090Ti, which isnt really that bad. Unless that Antec PSU is trash with transients it should be fine for ADA given the cable limit

[hollow leaf]

what is this 12+0p/12+4P?

is that the new style of connectors for the new gpus?

[blissful thistle]

I'm hoping my 850 gt would be fine for a 4070/5070

Got it for $50 off b stock, so not a big deal if it isn't

[lofty pewter]

Nvidia made the new 12P connector (Now dubbed 12+0) kinda sorta for Ampere and was based on the upcoming 12+4P ATX connector. One should be able to plug the 12+0 cable into a 12+4 slot, but with the given limitations explained above. This was mostly cuz 12+0P had little control going on. So designs like 2x8P or 3x8P (which afaik doesnt exist) to 12+0P can exist (2x8P to 12+0P exist at least).

[elfin trout]

Fun, that was probably it, do wonder how that compares to a-gf's inaccurate pwr ok

[hollow leaf]

ah I see ok

[cunning tree]

Why my pc turns on 5-10 secs after i press my power button? What might be causing the issue? I have vs 450 corsair psu

[urban tulip]

1. Try disconnecting anything you don't need when starting it up to see if that does anything
2. If it's older, cmos battery may be bad (way to find this would be having non-stock bios settings, shutting down PC, and unplugging it for 5-10 mins, then plug back in and turn on and see if all your
   bios settings are still there)
3. Could be a corrupted bios

Probs some other things to try too, that's just what I came up with

[blissful thistle]

could also just need a bios updoot

[cunning tree]

Its a new build... My processor, motherboard and ram is new..

Running i3 10105f
Asus prime h510me
8gb ddr4 ram
Gtx 1050ti

If my bios is corrupted... Will it effect me in long run n how? Kindly explain

[mild roost]

If your bios is corrupted, your pc wouldn't even boot

Or something like taking long before it actually starts turning on

[fierce pivot]

Corrupted bios means pc no boot at all

[vagrant lantern]

Can I run a 6600xt on a 450w psu?

[rugged yew]

how am I supposed to control the rgb on the Lancool 3?

like what software should I downloard

[blissful thistle]

Yes

[fierce pivot]

It it's a good one you might get away with it but there's not really any good 450ws

[sand atlas]

Avoid group regulated 450W since they can only do about 350W in reality

The way you tell is by looking at the sticker, and if the 12V rail can't give the full rated power it's group regulated

[vagrant lantern]

what about the thermaltake smart 500w?

is it like a decent psu?

[urban tulip]

No

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Here's a great place to kinda check in to what's good or not

[sand atlas]

That's in the "hazard to other components" tier, unless it's the 80+ white label one in which case it's the "hazardous to life" tier

[urban tulip]

Id get like a tuf gaming b or something to be safe

[vagrant lantern]

so what do you recommend a psu under 50$

[sand atlas]

For that 6600 XT and what I assume is a low power CPU?

[urban tulip]

I'd personally stride for the g6 650, but if that isn't possible, probs tuf gaming b 550

[vagrant lantern]

yes

[sand atlas]

This would be acceptable https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8P7CmG/evga-bq-500w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-110-bq-0500-k1

[fierce pivot]

terrible

[vagrant lantern]

this one?

[vagrant lantern]

?

[fierce pivot]

tuf gaming 550w imo

[sand atlas]

Is that under $50 though

[elfin trout]

60$ does get you G6 650w

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkjBD3/asus-tuf-gaming-b-550-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-550b

[fierce pivot]

49 :)

[vagrant lantern]

i only have 40$ rn im trying to find some dollars in my mom room

[sand atlas]

Oh it's non modular that's why it didn't show up in my filters

[vagrant lantern]

ill go for the tuf gaming b550

72 $ shipping

bruh

[fierce pivot]

lol amazon moment

[fierce pivot]

for under 50 you cant really complain

[sand atlas]

$72 plus it arrives later than free shipping 🙃

[vagrant lantern]

i was going to get a gift card but nvm my 10 $ is ripped

[sand atlas]

They should still take it

[vagrant lantern]

it takes like 20 mintues for me biking to the clostest store

[sand atlas]

The store brings it to the bank and the bank decommissions it

[elfin trout]

I mean, you could also do like
https://www.bep.gov/services/mutilated-currency-redemption

but that doesn't seem bad enough to warrant that

[sand atlas]

Yeah that's more like someone drew over Benjamin's face with a sharpie

[vagrant lantern]

They don’t have 15$ gift card in the store

[sand atlas]

They don't have the one where you choose how much goes on it?

[vagrant lantern]

25

[vagrant lantern]

and my bike tire is flat 😦

is there any good psu that are around 40$?

[elfin trout]

Not that I can see, tuf cheapest decent thing I see

[vagrant lantern]

yeah but nwo i need to spend 30$ on fixing my bike

[upbeat dew]

priorities man

the bike is far more important, you can think on the psu later

[elfin trout]

The PC can wait

Rather wait and have it work than have it die with a smart or w1

[upbeat dew]

its like deciding on a gpu or fixing our family car... hmmmm... now that i think of it.....

jk

[vagrant lantern]

yeah but i just cancled some orders now i have 90$ left to spend

[upbeat dew]

then as the guys said, tuf 550

[vagrant lantern]

i was looking to buy an ssd (500Gb ) but i have some 120g so i might have ot keep using that one

this one right?

[upbeat dew]

y

[blissful thistle]

Could get silicon power a60 500gb

And yeah, that's it

[vagrant lantern]

i have 90$ i spend 50 on psu

[blissful thistle]

Yeah, a60 500gb (might be 512, I forget) is like $35

[vagrant lantern]

i need sata not m.2

[blissful thistle]

Ah

Idk any cheap sata drives then, unless mx500 goes on sale

[urban tulip]

Or s31 sometimes

[cunning tree]

Hey about this.. When i turn on my pc, it doesnt show me any bios screen... Just black screen thn windows login screen appears... No bios screen.. No windows loading screen nothing... I have fast boot enabled in windows.. Google says that if bios is corrupted then bios screen doesnt show up.. But i can still login to windows n play games.. Browse internet.. Watch movies etc.. Im really confused here..

Sorry for the late reply.. I was busy at work..

[fierce pivot]

Bios screen logo is a sign of fast boot being enabled

[sand atlas]

You can get to bios through the advanced boot menu. Hold shift while you click restart.

[upbeat dew]

or repeatedly press "delete" and let the magic do its thing

[blissful thistle]

Yeah I do it the delete way

Much more refined

[upbeat dew]

https://tenor.com/view/di-caprio-godo-beffa-ghigno-gif-20251254

[cunning tree]

Disabled fast boot now... Any advantages of disabling fast boot?

[fierce pivot]

You can access bios easier

[lofty pewter]

Depends which fastboot:
-Windows fastboot generally causes issues and glitches for faster Win boot times. Always ideal to disable that.
-BIOS fastboot disables certain POST checks and removes most of the "pause" time to read POST info or get into BIOS. Rarely causes issues, do whatever works for you.

[cunning tree]

Windows 10 fast startup option...

[cunning tree]

I have only 8gb ddr4 ram... My fast start up was enabled for 22 days... When ever i start up my pc, my ram usage stays 3.6gb idle... Today when i disabled fast startup n restart windows, the ram usage decreased to 1.7gb idle..

[fierce pivot]

Oh well fast startup in windows doesn't really do a full shut down it kinda puts it in hybernate

[sand atlas]

Hybrid sleep they call it

[fierce pivot]

I don't like it tbh

[urban tulip]

Fast boot windows actually is kinda nice to leave off imo, that way the kernal actually resets when you shut off and turn back on. So if you're having weird windows glitches and crap and have fastboot, shutting down and turning back on typically won't fix if it's an issue with kernal. Restarting would be the fix, which sounds kinda weird but it's true

[fierce pivot]

New asus psu has cybernetics H rating

[weary vine]

H for hazard?

H for bomb?

[fierce pivot]

Idk maybe i heard wrong but sounded like h which was supposed to be silent under all loads or something?

[lapis fog]

I need a cheap case with 6+ hdd bays. Any suggestions? I'm from Canada

[fierce pivot]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/wNrG3C/cooler-master-case-nse400kkn2

[blissful thistle]

Hey that's my case

I give it a 6/10, kinda annoying to clean

[lapis fog]

No cable management

[blissful thistle]

Def a big hdd bay though

[lapis fog]

I'll consider it but looks like a 10 years old case xF

[elfin trout]

That's what you usually get for cheap cases with many drive bays

[lapis fog]

I bought a rosewill one a few years ago

It had many bays

With psu shroud

But i think it's discontinued

[upbeat dew]

pretty cases dont have that many drive bays

[elfin trout]

Something like meshify 2 is neat and has a bunch of drive bags but not exactly cheap

Enthoo pro, define R5, that kind of thing, nice but 100$+

[arctic crest]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Segotep-750W-80-Plus-Gold-Fully-Modular-Gaming-Power-Supply-with-Silent-140mm-Fan-ATX-PSU/1045930125

Is this power supply any good?

I want to buy it as a test power supply in case main one dies.

[sand atlas]

It doesn't say which model it is exactly but it's probably a B or A tier model

[vagrant lantern]

ty for saving my life

[elfin trout]

At that price it's meh

Could do G6 650w for 80$ or a-gf 750w for 90$

If it's gp-p LLC resonant, it's tier b, not bad, if it's not, it's tier c/d material, kinda bad

[urban tulip]

^^^ last i heard it was the LLC but who knows tbh, id rather get a guaranteed good unit

[elfin trout]

Yeye last time Luke said they really didn't know for sure

[vagrant lantern]

50$ budget

[elfin trout]

Asus tuf iirc 650w is 50$

Pylon 650w is 60$ if stretchable

[vagrant lantern]

15% tax

[urban tulip]

Tuf 550 then

[vagrant lantern]

i got that one

[zinc raptor]

So quick question. Upgrading my psu to 850 gold and modular. I am pluging a VGA into the psu that goes to my GPU. I have the single end at the GPU and the end with the 2 connectors at the PSU. Will it hurt anything or power surge or anything by having both connectors at one end plugged into the PSU?

So 2 connectors plugged into the PSU leading to 1 connector leading into the GPu

[blissful thistle]

Yes. you have the cable backwards

[past harbor]

[zinc raptor]

Direction matters?

[past harbor]

Solid 8pin goes to psu, always

[blissful thistle]

no, i said that to confuse and lie to you

[zinc raptor]

There's nothing indicating direction and hate having that second connector dangling in view

[blissful thistle]

yes it matters

[zinc raptor]

Aight. Love the indicated rudeness. Preciate it I guess.

And FYI. The way I have it has the solid 8 at the GPU already.

So.

[blissful thistle]

the solid 8 is not supposed to be at the gpu

it's supposed to be the 6+2 at the gpu

[past harbor]

Here I actuallu have a recent pic to describe. (Left cable being only 6pin to make it perhaps more obviouz even if these are extensions).
I lot of people should watch/read a few things 1st. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MYOpFONCU

[arctic crest]

Should I buy a used very good psu from amazon warehouse?

Will it still have warranty on it?

[upbeat dew]

read the warranty on amazon warehouse items

[arctic crest]

I couldn't find it, it just gives you the same info as the normal new product page.

[upbeat dew]

your best aproach is to contact amazon itself for that

[arctic crest]

And if you click the "click here" for product warranty it just tells you "Please contact the seller directly for warranty information for this product. You may also be able to find warranty information on the manufacturer’s website."

How do I contact them?

[upbeat dew]

there you have it

support i guess, and open a ticket

[arctic crest]

I posted a question but idk how to like email them.

[upbeat dew]

just to ask about warehouse warranty

[arctic crest]

Ahh I see.

Ok I'll try that thanks.

Someone bought it.

[fierce pivot]

[fierce pivot]

Tt pf1 is nice price atm, 850w for 90$ and i saw rmx 850 yesterday for 100$

[arctic crest]

I checked amazon for that rmx apparenty the seller is very sketchy.

[fierce pivot]

Sad :(

[fierce pivot]

Everytime in this vid i hear seasonic ballsy for sponsorsing, must have good psu's i just think s12ii
https://youtu.be/b3x28s61q3c

[arctic crest]

Apparently interchanging psu ac cables for coolermaster may void warranty?

Also anyone know how do i package my psu for rma? Along with my psu cable?

Also if we lose our original psu cable do companies send a replacement??

[fierce pivot]

They wont know unless you tell them you did so it's all good lol

[fierce pivot]

Originally packing if possible, you probs don't need to send back the cable although might be no harm, it depends on the company but probably not if you loose it, you can buy them for pretty cheap tho, they're just called kettle leads, a 16 or 18awg would work

[normal shadow]

Is the 5000d airflow panel metal or plastic. I was hoping it would be compatible with the NZXT puck but the website doesn’t specify I think

[fierce pivot]

Metal

[normal shadow]

Thanks. Just finished doing my case swap for a 5000x but I still need to call for the airflow panels

[arctic crest]

Uhh I told them.

Damn I screwed it up huh.

[arctic crest]

I need help I'm going to UPS in a bit. How do I ship my psu to coolermaster for rma?

I don't have original packaging.

[sand atlas]

What do their instructions say?

[serene siren]

I feel like this is a question for them more than us lol

[arctic crest]

They really don’t tell me much tbh.

Also is this normal?

Sorry for the bad quality photo but there’s like a pin thing missing.

[past harbor]

That's by design

[arctic crest]

Oh ok my heart stopped for a sec.

I was like struggling so much to pull that pin out.

[lofty pewter]

Also those with transients issues, but not as big of a deal as not as dangerous and SS actually tried to fix the issue. Certainly really good PR for them on average tho

[serene siren]

It says "(preferably in it's original packaging)" meaning if you don't have it, you'll have to arrange your own

Cardboard box, some paper and a large esd bag for the PSU itself would probably be ideal

[arctic crest]

Where can I find a esd bag?

Would walmart or target carry those? I want to send the psu out asap.

[serene siren]

Walmart and amazon seem to have them but I don't live in the states so I couldn't tell you

[arctic crest]

Alright I'll check them out thank you.

Also do you happen to know if swapping ac cables really could void warranty? Because I checked with a lot of sources and people that apparently ac cables are standardized but coolermaster says it might void my warranty and is telling me to send it with my psu.

[urban tulip]

Ac cables are fairly standardized, not fully fully tho. Ofc that doesn't mean it will or won't go against their warranty, since that's up to the company to decide, and it doesn't always make sense for every situation. As far as I know, aslong as the ac cable uses thick enough wire (awg) for what you're unit would need on rated, and they didn't use complete crap terminals, it's fine

But yeah cooler master would have the final say on whether that effects warranty or not

[arctic crest]

I got a tripp lite 18 AWG.

Fingers crossed coolermaster send me replacement. Power supplies are so expensive I really don't want to buy another one.

[fierce pivot]

Yeah i just hate the "insert brand always good mindset"

[sick viper]

I feel like cardboard would be a decent way of prototyping a case before i go through the trouble of doing literally anything else

not sure what i will do about airflow though

because there will only be one opening and it will be a wide and flat one, luckily

or snuff that. If there is a case designed to be all-in-one portable much like

then i could just use that for a start

[fierce pivot]

Why not just get the new tiny intel nuc

[sick viper]

i already have a sizable gpu lol

the original idea was to fit everything into a pelican case

much like something like this

[fierce pivot]

Oh i see

Doesn't look like anything good would fit tbh

[sick viper]

yeah

[sick viper]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803395079634.html

this could almost work

oh

not for that price lol

[arctic crest]

Any thoughts about this?

[minor portal]

AndyLi#9766 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[arctic crest]

What?

[serene siren]

good

do you need 850W?

[arctic crest]

I'm not sure tbh.

I kind of want to future proof idk if that is overkill.

[scenic lance]

Hi

[arctic crest]

I was thinking of yeston 3080 with ryzen 5 5600x probably.

Or ryzen 7 5700x.

[serene siren]

5800X I could sort of understand with a 3x8 pin 3080

5700X no that's a 65W chip

I would get a 750W if you had those plans

thing is, ATX 3.0 is on the way, so PSU future-proofing is basically pointless (Let alone the concept of future-proofing to begin with)

if you're gonna pull the trigger on the new CPU and GPU, 750W should be alright

[arctic crest]

What is 3x8 pin?

[scenic lance]

https://twitter.com/Newegg/status/1562863483502219267?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1562863483502219267|twgr^1934c0a1bd6740d0c836e6b5862d2b62c698ff55|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgleam.io%2FNjzBH%2Fintel-gamer-days-celebration-build-giveaway%3Fl%3Dhttps3A2F2Fwww.newegg.com2Fpromotions2Fintel2F22-15322Findex.html3Fcm_mmc3Dsnc-instagram-_-intel-sweepstakes-_-gamedays-_-082522r%3Dhttps3A2F2Flinktr.ee2F

[serene siren]

3080's come in 3 different power outputs

so 2x8/1x12/3x8

[arctic crest]

Ohh like the power going into the gpu.

[serene siren]

ya

[arctic crest]

The 6 and 2 thing?

[serene siren]

ya that's it

[arctic crest]

Does the 5600x or 5700x not match well with a 3080?

[serene siren]

So the 3x8's are the power hungry ones, like 450W cards

5600X is fine for even a 3090

cpu's are really powerful these days

lemme find you a 750W psu

[arctic crest]

Wait so I'm still confused with this part and the 5700x part.

[arctic crest]

Ok thank you.

[serene siren]

5700X is a 5800X but lower power

basically the same

but 5700X I could see running on a 750W

[arctic crest]

I was looking at the prices of 750w A-tier power supplies and they were all about 90 so I thought the 850w would be fine.

Ohh so if I had a 5800x then 850 watt would be good?

Also what is atx 3.0?

[serene siren]

ye I'm seeing now 750W GF1 and '22 NZXT C are both 80 so an extra 10 into an 850W is worth it

[serene siren]

wouldn't pick a 5800X over a 5700X

lol

but yeah that 850W isn't a bad idea cos it's only 10$ difference

this one

[minor portal]

FlexibleFelix#0713 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[serene siren]

eh

omg in the link

or this if you decide 750W:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SL9NFVS

[arctic crest]

Is thermaltake a good company btw?

I haven't bought anything from them and worry about rma if something comes bad.

[serene siren]

[arctic crest]

Ahh ok.

[serene siren]

much like most companies, there are good things, and bad things

[arctic crest]

Wait also I saw this under speculative in the tier list.

[serene siren]

[arctic crest]

Is it still considered an A tier.

[serene siren]

GF1?

[arctic crest]

Yeahh.

I saw it there that's also why I was a bit hesitant to pull the trigger.

[serene siren]

oh yeah I knew about that

[scenic lance]

I want pc😢

RTX 3060 i512400f god?

[arctic crest]

So is that fine?

[arctic crest]

I think it's pretty good.

[scenic lance]

I’m from 🇸🇦

[serene siren]

they still don't have info on the 2022 one hence it's speculated based on the 2019 one

[arctic crest]

Ohh I see.

[serene siren]

Sorry, I shouldn't have suggested it, stick to the Thermaltake ones we talked about

[arctic crest]

So this one is new and haven't been tested yet?

[serene siren]

by the cultists yea

[arctic crest]

So which one should I get now?

[serene siren]

GF1 750 or 850 if you upgrade the other stuff

[arctic crest]

The NZXT?

Wait I'm dumb isn't the gf1 the one that hasn't been tested?

[serene siren]

no

NZXT C 22 is the speculative A

GF1 is low priority A

[arctic crest]

Ohh is low priority also included with speculative units?

[serene siren]

eh?

two separate categories

[arctic crest]

Wait I'm so confused.

[serene siren]

wait the GF1 is speculative A now

[arctic crest]

Wait so it was rated as ok before?

[serene siren]

oh

so it's still best in tier

the list hasn't been updated yet that's why

[arctic crest]

How you pull that up so fast.

[serene siren]

I search a lot when I try to help someone

[arctic crest]

Wait so the high watt ones are the untested ones?

[serene siren]

no?

Just stick to GF1 750W or 850W if you upgrade the cpu and gpu

if you aren't upgrading yet, then wait until you do

there might be something cheaper later

[arctic crest]

Ah okie okie.

Wait one more question.

What is CWT and GPR.

[serene siren]

CWT is the oem afaik

GPR is the platform

I might have this totally wrong tho

[arctic crest]

Power supplies are so complicated.

[serene siren]

and yet there are people that will go super cheap on theirs cos they don't know how important it is lol

[arctic crest]

Me LOL.

I went for a coolermaster mwe one.

[serene siren]

nah I'm talking much worse

[arctic crest]

It's now being sent in for rma.

[scenic lance]

your tweets should not be protected

What is this?

[arctic crest]

My tweets?

[scenic lance]

No

[knotty mesa]

the NZXT C 2022??

its not speculated to be based on the prior model lol

its known to be CWT CSZ

only testing on this platfrom though its only on MSI highter wattages

so no testing on lower wattages which the C 2022 uses

the older model is just a focus

[serene siren]

Thank you for clarifying

[coarse sable]

i am geting i3-12100F and RX 6600 and 16gb ram and H610 and like what power supply is the best?

[blissful thistle]

Depends on country

Check pins, any A, B and some C tier psus on the tier list would do fine

[coarse sable]

i am from india

i mean how mush power do i need

[blissful thistle]

@weary vine idk what sites to check for India

[blissful thistle]

Well there's a lot more to psus than just wattage and the 80+ rating, so I'd be careful when buying

[coarse sable]

like do i use a 500W power supply?

[blissful thistle]

500w would work, but model is very important

[coarse sable]

do i need more Wattage

[blissful thistle]

No

But if the model is bad, you could end up frying your pc

Such as Thermaltake smart or evga w1/n1

Or old gigabyte pgm

[coarse sable]

https://www.amazon.in/Cooler-Master-Bronze-Certified-Non-Modular/dp/B08H5QR9FL/ref=sr_1_18?crid=2S8UNLX5H324X&keywords=power%2Bsupply%2B500w&qid=1661534768&s=computers&sprefix=power%2Bsupply%2B50%2Ccomputers%2C340&sr=1-18&th=1

this good?

[blissful thistle]

I believe thats B tier

I'd double check using the tier list though

[coarse sable]

tier B

what

tier B is in my budget

[blissful thistle]

B tier is fine

But I'm not sure if I'm right on what tier it is

And I'm on mobile and at work

So I can't really check

[coarse sable]

where can i check

google

?

[blissful thistle]

.

Check the pins

[coarse sable]

ok

[weary vine]

Ahhhh ok im back

[weary vine]

sorry i got a little busy after and i didnt get time to look at sites and make you a list, but feel free to dm me ill get back to you tomorrow

[scenic lance]

Guys what psu should I get I am getting the evga 3070 and I have a ryzen 9 5900x. Heres what im looking at https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Supply-210-GQ-0850-V1/dp/B017HA3SO0/ref=asc_df_B017HA3SO0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309833041189&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=715807397995488761&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014979&hvtargid=pla-493762053545&psc=1

[blissful thistle]

gf1 750

or nzxt c

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZCQcCJ/nzxt-c-2022-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-pa-7g1bb-us

[past harbor]

If evga & a decent setup, I also suggest minimum G5 or GT.

[blissful thistle]

g5 kinda meh

doesn't handle transients super well

tho 3070 doesn't have crazy transients

[past harbor]

Exactly. Just saying how GQ is worse than all of these afaik. At least there's tons of options for 3070 based setups

[blissful thistle]

ye

[bleak holly]

What are some really big and really cool cases with EATX support that can fit a 420mm rad or bigger under $800?

[coarse sable]

https://www.amazon.in/SilverStone-Micro-ATX-Mini-ITX-Computer-Tempered/dp/B085KLGP8C/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7%3Aamzn1.sym.8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7&crid=32PJ634BZD3TR&cv_ct_cx=case+for+pc&keywords=case+for+pc&pd_rd_i=B085KLGP8C&pd_rd_r=94ae4a3c-dec0-473a-bde9-156f29ed1d74&pd_rd_w=Q2XB5&pd_rd_wg=bzlQU&pf_rd_p=8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7&pf_rd_r=K4TXV0JK61F0VA7FJA07&qid=1661585376&sprefix=case+for+%2Caps%2C277&sr=1-3-2c069395-c082-4988-952e-63c0fd607961-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRUZPWklaSkhMM1Y0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODAwMDg2MUVIR0JYVllBNzFGUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzQzMjU1MUtRSFRYUlIzWEI2TCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3NlYXJjaF90aGVtYXRpYyZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= is this good or badddd

[bleak holly]

Anything, falshier?

[coarse sable]

what

[coarse sable]

good or bad?

[bleak holly]

Oh, thought this was recommendation for my request. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[coarse sable]

lol

np

https://www.amazon.in/SilverStone-Micro-ATX-Mini-ITX-Computer-Tempered/dp/B085KLGP8C/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7%3Aamzn1.sym.8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7&crid=32PJ634BZD3TR&cv_ct_cx=case+for+pc&keywords=case+for+pc&pd_rd_i=B085KLGP8C&pd_rd_r=94ae4a3c-dec0-473a-bde9-156f29ed1d74&pd_rd_w=Q2XB5&pd_rd_wg=bzlQU&pf_rd_p=8d20bc10-5ba1-453b-a4e3-76ff9a48a4a7&pf_rd_r=K4TXV0JK61F0VA7FJA07&qid=1661585376&sprefix=case+for+%2Caps%2C277&sr=1-3-2c069395-c082-4988-952e-63c0fd607961-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRUZPWklaSkhMM1Y0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODAwMDg2MUVIR0JYVllBNzFGUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzQzMjU1MUtRSFRYUlIzWEI2TCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX3NlYXJjaF90aGVtYXRpYyZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= is this good or badddd

airflow good ?

[bleak holly]

Until someone helps you out, I'd recommend watching some review videos.

[coarse sable]

Yea

[weary vine]

yep

good case

[coarse sable]

air flow

?

https://www.amazon.in/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Micro-ATX-pre-Installed/dp/B087FR68VR/ref=sr_1_19?crid=32PJ634BZD3TR&keywords=case+for+pc&qid=1661589556&sprefix=case+for+%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-19 this?

[fierce pivot]

That's decently as well yes

[coarse sable]

what is better

[serene siren]

Probably Fara but whichever is cheaper and genuine

[coarse sable]

but on yt he is tell dont buy this

[coarse sable]

?

[serene siren]

Whichever one is cheaper and a genuine seller

I'm too busy rn to look beyond the discord previews

[coarse sable]

ok

[timid basin]

still waiting to see what's inside them

but NZXT isn't gonna tell me any time soon

[blissful thistle]

Same as gf1 though, no?

[timid basin]

I genuinely don't know for anything for the C1000

and I've only seen CSZ at 1kw, nothing lower

[blissful thistle]

Ah

[timid basin]

for all I know it can be CSE, GPU-G, GPR, GPX, GPW, downscaled CSZ, CSC, CSH, GPS... or even something custom

most likely is GPU-G and GPR, CSE was custom, GPX and GPW look quite a bit cheaper, CSC and CSH were specific to Thermaltake and not that amazing, GPS has a ton of variations, most of them not fully modular, but you can make it work that way

and well, I'm yet to see CSZ downscaled

but considering NZXT doesn't talk to me and I can't get them here for a reasonable price...

[elfin trout]

So what I'm hearing is GoFundMe/Patreon

[timid basin]

We do have a Patreon, it's not even that I can't afford to

I'm waiting for one to show up at a reasonable price, until then I'm covering different units I'm interested in

For example, already reserved a Hela 850R at Silverstone

[urban tulip]

Send me a Hof 3090 (I'm in USA so same issue) and I'll send you a c750 2022

[timid basin]

Lol

[urban tulip]

What can I say, I'm just a businessman

[candid oasis]

im sure this gets asked a lot but... H7 or H510?

[urban tulip]

G360A

[candid oasis]

it kinda do look finnneeee

they got these goods on newegg?

[mild roost]

yes

[upbeat dew]

h510 be like

[weary vine]

Me: mom can we get an oven
Mom: We have oven at home
Oven at home:

[fierce pivot]

Both are terrible choices

[cloud coyote]

is it worth case swapping a hp pavilion tg01

[sand atlas]

Most HP computers you can't case swap because they use weird form factor that are just far enough off from ATX.

[urban tulip]

Typically, a "case swap" in dell or HP terms, roughly translates to "case + psu + maybe CPU cooler + motherboard" swap

[coarse sable]

https://www.amazon.in/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Non-Modular-Supply/dp/B07YVVNK6Y/ref=sr_1_24?crid=I4MTWJVHOD7U&keywords=power%2Bsupply%2B500w&qid=1661705069&sprefix=power%2Bsupply%2B500w%2Caps%2C185&sr=8-24&th=1 good or bad

[blissful thistle]

bad

[coarse sable]

why

[blissful thistle]

...because it's a bad psu?

It handle transients terrible, has bad ocp

[coarse sable]

it is for a RX 6600

[blissful thistle]

Mhm

I wouldnt pair it with anything over a 1030 or an igpu build

[coarse sable]

i need a tier B

psu

[blissful thistle]

Cv under 650 is D tier

Not good

[coarse sable]

...

ok

and

[elfin trout]

It's bad

[coarse sable]

AMD got G Sync?

[elfin trout]

Freesync

[coarse sable]

is it same

[elfin trout]

Effectively

Does the same thing, different name and on different hardware

[coarse sable]

and for a RX 6600 120hz good

[elfin trout]

?

[coarse sable]

monitor

[sand atlas]

Modern "gsync" monitors are just rebranded freesync anyway. True gsync requires a separate module that uses too much power on sleep and makes it so the monitor can't be sold in about a dozen states for failing to meet idle efficiency standards.

[coarse sable]

Oooo

[elfin trout]

144hz more common

[tame cape]

Definitive version of my mini case, (L×W×H) 32cm × 14cm × 25cm.
Changed basically everything, (also used triangles instead of hexagons for fan holes), the case can support motherboards up to 19×23, two 120mm fans top and one 80mm back. Can support a 240mm rad if the thickness (together with the height of MB and fan) doesn't exceed 24cm. Supports every GPU below 315mm. Tfx PSU compatible only.
45mm max CPU fan clearance.

+need to add front io holes (usb, pwr, 3.5mm jack) and a hole for vde cable extension

[scenic lance]

Hey people

My 550W psu is starting to get up there and I’m starting to run out of wattage, I’ve been looking around and wondering, is this a good psu that won’t blow up?

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/corsair-rm750x-750-watt-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-atx-power-supply/15397407?cmp=seo-15397407&cmp=knc-s-71700000055311646&gclid=CjwKCAjwpKyYBhB7EiwAU2Hn2RSwFGpjRc3tcirHWN0Thy3g1eXjfsS7mgnU_9uYPzVwB-QhPTQlqBoCg98QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I know theirs a tier list but I can’t seem to find it there

[elfin trout]

For future reference

But RMx is good

[scenic lance]

No I meant like I can’t seem to find the psu on the tier list

And yeah thanks I think I’ll get RMx then

[scenic lance]

Ohhh

Ok

Couldn’t find the specific model but I guess they’re all under one category

Good to know it’s a high tier psu

[radiant bay]

Any1 know a white case with RGB fans?

[radiant bay]

I changed my mind as it was to expensive and I went with an 4000d airflow

[fierce pivot]

New ssupd meshroom looks like cool larger sized itx case 👌

Any reviews on it yet?

[serene siren]

Wth 2x280 rads

[hollow leaf]

What would be a fair price USD for a lightly used Corsair Obsidian 900D?

[swift bone]

im gonna assume its a PSU issue but my computer has just started resetting for no reason and its never done this before it just started today

[fierce pivot]

could be psu, what is happening though?

[swift bone]

my computer just resets randomly

ive only had it happen so far when im playing a game

but it shouldnt be drawing too much power cause ive had this combo of parts for almost a month with no issue

[sand atlas]

Run OCCT power test, if it shuts off it's your PSU

[fierce pivot]

Like reboots? Blue screen of death? Black screens?

[pearl oasis]

Hey I’m looking to upgrade my pc I recently bought a 3080ti but my power supply doesn’t support does anyone have and recommendations? The card is 3 8pin while the one power supply I currently have is 2 6pin with one of them being +2

[swift bone]

Complete restart no BSOD

[fierce pivot]

What country you in?

[fierce pivot]

Weird, did you try falcies suggestion? Also what model power supply is it

[pearl oasis]

@fierce pivot US

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

[pearl oasis]

Thank you so much

It says 2 8pin from that power source. my GPU has 3 8pin slots it’ll work with 2? Again I’m not to familiar sorry for all the questions

@fierce pivot

[serene siren]

says it has 6 pcie cables and it has 5 slots in the psu for it so it'll definitely cater to the gpu and cpu no problems

whether that comes as pigtails or singles it's fine

[fierce pivot]

I highly doubt 6 singles lol

[serene siren]

me too

cos why make single cables like weirdo

[pallid isle]

Not entirely sure this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have any recommendations for cases for a Pi 4b?

The kit we got previously has a case with pretty bad cooling and the fans aren't very effective

[bleak holly]

What wattage PSU should I get if my plan is to OC a RTX 4090 + 13th gen I9?

[mild roost]

1200w+ at least

[bleak holly]

Gold, plat, or titanium rating?

[mild roost]

efficiency doesn't mean anything

[sand atlas]

1000W if you get one that's ATX 3.0

[mild roost]

it doesn't indicate quality

it only indicates efficiency

you have to look at a psu one by one

but there's a tier list pinned in this channel

[sand atlas]

A tier on the pinned list is what you want

[mild roost]

^

[sand atlas]

I really need to make a pcpp parametric filter list for PSU tiers... That's a project for when I have my motherboard back though

[bleak holly]

Got it, also would that mean I should be safe with say a 1500 watt psu?

[upbeat dew]

btw

no one really knows how power hungry the 4090 will be

you should wait for the official specs before jumping into any conclusions, just to be sure

[bleak holly]

I am guessing very hungry based on rumors.

[upbeat dew]

rumors only

[bleak holly]

Got it, gonna take a loot around and get a rough list made before hand just in case though.

I won't buy the parts until official specs are released.

Well, with the exception of the case.

https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BN647-Efficiency-virtually-inaudible/dp/B08HGVZXLP?crid=37TPRDDMVQJON&keywords=bequiet%2Bdark%2Bpower%2Bpro%2B12%2B1500w&qid=1654089120&sprefix=bequiet%2Bdark%2Bpower%2Bpro%2B12%2B15%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-2&linkCode=sl1&tag=cultists04-20&linkId=be0a30f3ba9b33847e3a6b6ae9d30316&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&th=1

This is a good PSU I am assuming based on the tier list?

[upbeat dew]

if you are planning to use it for the 4090 then you should wait for the next gen of psus as well

atx 3.0

[bleak holly]

Do these parts usually all come out at about the same time?

[upbeat dew]

they should, 40 series is rumored to use the new 12vhpwr connector

and those will come with the new atx3.0 psus

[bleak holly]

Got it.

"x 1PSU: Standard PS2 PSU (optional)"

[bleak holly]

What does this mean?

I am not sure what PS2 PSU means.

[sand atlas]

It's the form factor

[bleak holly]

Since it says "(optional)" does that mean a standard ATX PSU would work fine?

[sand atlas]

Amazon is known to have plenty of nonsense and useless/incorrect info on listings, don't worry about it

PS2=ATX yes

[bleak holly]

Got it, thought just incase. The case I am getting is the thermaltake tower 900.

[bleak holly]

Got it, thanks.

[swift bone]

just ran a 10 minute power test in OCCT didnt reset

[fierce pivot]

I would try test your memory, you can use occt for that too, let if run for the whole hour, if it gets one error its unstable

[swift bone]

I don’t remember the exact model of power supply but it’s a 600W evga 80+ rated

[swift bone]

Ok

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that doesn't mean just anything really

[swift bone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4FH48d/evga-w1-600-w-80-certified-atx-power-supply-100-w1-0600-k1 i believe this is the model

also ran the memory test nothing of note to report

[elfin trout]

rip

[rose grove]

i need help with a PSU, i really dont want to cheap out on this but i also want to stay under 100

im thinking of the Corsair RM (2021) 750W and the Gigabyte P GM 750W. (both 80+ gold)

is there any psu better than those i just listed

[elfin trout]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-750-g6-220-g6-0750-x1-750w/p/N82E16817438213

[sand atlas]

Do not under any circumstances get the gigabyte p-gm unless you feel like filing insurance claims for your house fire

[rose grove]

would you say that the psu that @elfin trout recomended is good?

[sand atlas]

The G6 is great yeah

[rose grove]

cool

also for my case im deciding between the p300A and the NZXT H510 Flow

i need a mid tower case and mesh front is what i mostly want

also under 100

[sand atlas]

P360A is a better option, more room to work

[rose grove]

i dont really want rgb

[sand atlas]

You don't have to plug it in

[rose grove]

im building a pc for my dad and he said he wants nothing flashy

[serene siren]

4000D airflow if it's still cheap doesn't come with any rgb

Stick some black p12's in it and it looks clean as hecc

[rose grove]

yeah i have the p400 rn

its great but i got it when it was 70 bucks

[sand atlas]

Case prices across the board are up due to increased material prices

About 5-10% up on most models that weren't overpriced to begin with

[rose grove]

how many fans does it come with

[sand atlas]

2 on the front

[rose grove]

120mm?

[sand atlas]

Yeah

[rose grove]

k

[blissful thistle]

That's a fat replace immediately

W1 is a fire hazard

[sand atlas]

Straight up F(ire) tier

[minor portal]

Femboy Fox#1987 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[swift bone]

oops

damn

ive had this PSU for like 1 1/2 years

thankfully my psu didnt burn down my house

[hidden thicket]

Anyone know any sfx psus that have 5 pcie/cpu connectors? 850w or more?

[sand atlas]

Here's 2 https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#th=5&e=6,5,4,2&A=850000000000,2050000000000&G=5,18

Of the two the cooler master is better

But the other one is 1000W

[fierce pivot]

Best to check the actual label on the psu by taking off the back panel because you said ppl helped you pick the psu? That one is one noone should be recommending

[hidden thicket]

They didn't show up in your list

[craggy mirage]

I figured out why GameMax has gotten such a bad rep, and why Amazon most likely banned the main seller they had. Also why they refunded my two units, letting me keep them lol. If you check the real website, and the real 1050w PS, the design is different than the 850w. All the seller has been doing, is buying the 850w model at $55, reselling it at $120, changing the name plate, easy thing to do. So people who use the PSU, thinking it's 1050w, are only getting 850w, hence why so many reports of them dying. What I find difficult to figure, is testing the power supply, because unless your running everything, there is no real way I can think of, to verify you got a real one, other than the markings or opening one up to take real readings, hence voiding the warranty. So my next question, what's a good priced reliable RGB power supply, other than GaneMax? Someone told me I don't need a 1050w, an 950w is fine. My next build, Series 12 Aorus Master LGA1700 I9, the $799 model. RGB radiator fan, non water type due to vibrations here caused two Corsair ones to slip their connection,hence leaking in machine. 64gb Ram, four 2TB NVME, 7300read/8100 Write Kingston Fury, RTX 2060TI 8GB, RGB, 9 spindle drives sata, PCI express 6 SATA adapter card since mb only has 6 SATA ports, a blue Ray player, Hauppauge VHS to AVI conversion card, 12 120mm RGB fans. Think that's it. 850w or 1050w? One thing I noticed, what happened to dual rail power supplies? Seems the few $350+ ones all say single rail.

[fierce pivot]

Why would you go to the 12900k with a 2060 super? Or 12gb? Such a huge waste, grab a 12600k(f) or 12700(f) instead, also same goes with 64gb ram very little amount of people can use that much, and having that much can be harmful towards performance, would be better off with just a 2x16gb kit, assuming you're in the us,
This would be more than plenty for a new cpu and 2060 variant at 60$
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W4Tp99/gigabyte-ud750gm-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-gp-ud750gm

Also gamemax just have horrible units

[upbeat dew]

950/1050w psu units are pretty rare, you have more variety on the 750, 850, 1000 and 1200w as standards. Multirail units are goin extinct, single rail is the standard these days. Plus you dont need argb on your psu, it will use another valuable connector on your mobo and most of the time is hidden in the shroud anyway plus argb only rank up the price

[craggy mirage]

The RTX I already own. The only new parts I purchased were the I7 for my kids, and the I9 for myself. I plan upgrading the RTX layer on. If you look me up, you will see I'm the old reporter who used to promote Ultima Online and Earth and Beyond for Electronic arts back in the days, when they were the ones who set the standards for all the MMORPGs we see today. I do work now a days for multiple companies, programming, mod making on Steam, which you can find my work there quite easily. As for the KF and K CPUs, you can thank Newegg for limiting CPUs to 1 per person. When my boss offers to pay half, not just me but my kids too because they sometimes do some side jobs, I grab the offer immediately, not tell them, hey, can we wait 48 hours a few times to get all the equipment? Was already given 2k, only spent $3600 total.

For 3 builds.

When you say it's a waste. I was under the impression that the CPUs with graphics, were low end and RTX was much better. Only benefit I have had is when I need to use multiple cards, can borrow one from another machine, and that machine can still run without the card. It may not be able to play high end games for a bit, but it's just for a short time to test titles out on multiple monitors, which is rare.

If I built systems weekly, maybe I'd have chosen differently, but I tend to build them, every 6 to 7 years, and they don't get out dated as quick. Rather spend now, then go cheap and then stuck next year needing to spend when I don't have the funds. Next year won't be easy either. One of my kids graduate, prom, all the extra expenses. Better now than later.

Btw, the $799 I9 was only $534 when I purchased it. $85 promo code plus 10% off entire order.

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/PXCFf7,vJPQzy/

[craggy mirage]

I send it back, unopened, 15% restock plus shipping back well over $150. I'd be saving nothing.

[hidden thicket]

cooler master only has 4... D:

I need 5 for custom cables

RIP my bank... gotta buy freaking 300 dollar psu

[upbeat dew]

they both have 2 eps and 6 pcie

[sand atlas]

Yeah, through daisy chain

Just get extensions instead of full custom cables

[craggy mirage]

Never heard of Silverstone. Corsair, Thermaltske, Cool master, those I know, and don't see much, lately. I see a lot of brands I never heard of which is why I asked about the PSU. I been lucky from what I seen of feedback using GameMax all these years.

[hidden thicket]

I have extensions but they wont allow me to use them on a daisy chain

not sure why

[sand atlas]

Sounds like cheap/bad extensions

[craggy mirage]

Oh, reason I lost trust completely with Gamax, is that seller, selling 1050w units for $120, which are really 850w, with label change. That's why Amazon booted them. When I talked with the real GaneMax manufacturer, they were willing to sell to me, but only through Alibaba. I lost count on the scams Alibaba sellers tried over the years. Overseas bank wire, that's never happening lol

$115 for their Aura sync 1050w model, plus $99 s&h each unit, regardless of how many you get. Bank wire only? I'd rather risk sending 20k in the mail to collect my 100k winnings. (The above statement is sarcasm)

Anyways, maybe I wasted money, maybe I didn't. To me my own build is like someone's car. I can't drive, so I like building a system that looks and runs perfectly, especially when I have to look at it for 7 years. I'd hate to build a crapper that I'm not happy with. Bad mood = bad work. Bad work = my next build I'll have to pay the entire bill heh.

Oh, the Phantek case I bought myself, gave to my son for his build. I went for the all glass Thermaltake.

Brb, getting links

[upbeat dew]

👀

[fierce pivot]

Nah you don't need tooo...

[craggy mirage]

I always gut the Thermaltske RGB system for my own. I built my wife's system last year, and not only like the easy maintenance, but how easy it is to assemble. Sadly I won't have a USB C port or my blue Ray writer, the Phantek case has that option.

[hidden thicket]

Asia Horse D:

[fierce pivot]

Well what gpu are you looking to upgrade too? 4080 level or something

[upbeat dew]

also you dont need an usb-c on the case, you should have one as well on the mobo IO shield

its a welcome plus, but either way you will have one regardless

[craggy mirage]

Not sure yet. Current games I'm working on are Realms of Magic, OutWorlder, and Necesse. None of which require or need RTX support. Depending on next projects, and what I want to play, will be my deciding matter. The RTX I got, was only to play Minecraft RTX, and got that RGB card when it was $250. If I'm going to buy a much better version, it's going to be used for more than just Minecraft. Not mining. Will not go near that crypto pyramid.

[upbeat dew]

gpu mining will be dead in about 2 weeks anyway

[fierce pivot]

You don't need to go near mining and ray tracing isn't the only reason to get a better gpu, you can get better fps and or jump to a higher resolution or increase detail settings in game

[craggy mirage]

I use the C port for my equipment a lot. Having it in the rear is a pain. Having it in the front is preferred, but my experience with any case that comes with the option, the ports always short out within a year.

[upbeat dew]

maybe you need an external usb hub to solve those problems

[craggy mirage]

Your close. I run ribbon cable extensions from inside the case to front card hub. Not sure why, but when I do a full new OS install, if I use the USB, the system blue screens. If I use a sata extension from inside the case, it doesn't.

Card hub is $20. When connectors or ports break, I toss the $20 hub and plug in another.

[mild roost]

not quite lol

[craggy mirage]

Something similar to this, but has two USB C connections for my NVME enclosures. I don't like reusing an enclosure as the NVME card pins tend to wear and break easily after a few insertions. Rocket NVME killed two only after a few uses.

[mild roost]

but eth mining is indeed going to end

[craggy mirage]

Check this out on @Newegg: Multi-Function USB 3.0 Hub eSATA SATA Port Internal Card Reader PC Dashboard Media Front Panel Audio for SD MS CF TF M2 MMC Memory Cards Fits 5.25" Bay https://www.newegg.com/p/0DS-01NH-00035?Item=9SIARUCCTR4894&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIARUCCTR4894-_-09032022

[mild roost]

wait

bruh discord didn't scroll down for me

shame

[craggy mirage]

On phone?

[mild roost]

ye

[craggy mirage]

Nokia by any chance?

[upbeat dew]

android most likely

happen a lot on mine as well

shame foxy, shame indeed

[craggy mirage]

One thing I had happen often with my older Nokia 7.2, would be the scrolling issue, but worse would be where wifi took over from data. I could be let's say here in #general-chat , disconnect and reconnect, and discord would still say Newegg, but I'd be connected to #general-chat in let's say Terraria. Last year I told mod in space haven, not to tell me what to do on my server, only to find out I wasn't in my server, I was in his

Or worse, if I'm trying to talk behind someone's back, to find out Im talking to their face!!! (Joke)

Anyways, with the hub, I can now make my blue Ray portable. When I replaced my clunky monitor, with a 26 flat screen with blue Ray built in and my RTX, I picked up fast the many resolution selections, which was when I noticed I needed glasses lol. Couldn't read the small fonts.

[pearl oasis]

@fierce pivot I got the new psu and got everything up and running just need to upgrade drivers for the new GPU thanks again for the recommendation

[craggy mirage]

Phantek case was a bit disappointing. No where did it say that it required its own fans and RGB components. Tag on the cables was the only thing with warning. Easy fix was to drill out the controller board, place my RGB controller board in its place, and use my pin insertion tool to swap pins around so the lighting cables that came built in, could be used with my own equipment. One thing I find hard to find, are pwm fans that actually use the motherboard fan pins. Lately every RGB fan set, carries the fan power with the fans addressable cables.

If it wasn't for the fact, one wire is used for some of the color selection and fan power, I'd have unhooked the two or 3 pins, and add a header connection to the motherboard.

Actually, going to meter the lines. Might be able to do it, adding a diode or bridge.

Bbl

[blissful thistle]

What case

[fierce pivot]

No prob

[craggy mirage]

I do an average of 5 new system builds, every 6 or 7 years, but on average, swap out cases for newer ones that have options I need. I'm learning that just about ever case like the Phantek, that boast RGB, fail to mention their controller or even that they have one, will only take their components. A practice old Tandy Radio Shack started very long ago. That's why I know how to beat it, and use my parts, not theirs. Most of time all they do is change pin configuration. I have since made a few male and female adapters, that change the pin order. Only fan that I can't for the life of me figure out, are the GiM fans, that seem to share power. The fans are actually pretty good visual effects, even more with Aura sync. Only thing I don't like, one in 10 spin off the spindle, held by a screw.

Brb, been procrastinating writing the manufacturer, doing that now.

[blissful thistle]

You wrote a paragraph and still didn't answer the question

[craggy mirage]

You mean which case I'm talking about? One sec.

Check this out on @Newegg: Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG PH-ES614PTG_BK Integrated RGB Lighting Control Tempered Glass Side Panel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Black https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-enthoo-pro-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811854069?Item=N82E16811854069&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-854-069-_-09042022

I actually purchased this last year, and never got around to transferring my old equipment into it, but then ended up buying 3 complete rebuilds. I7 for my kids, and I9 for myself.

[elfin trout]

enthoo pro with rgb....?

All phanteks fans are standard fans with standard argb

if it has argb strips, dunno

[craggy mirage]

When I bought the case, it had no mention of the RGB controller, but inside it has a standard fan block, with another RGB that is clearly labeled, only Phantek light strips and fans

There is also no HDD led.

[elfin trout]

this stuff is standard argb, no need for any fancy thing as long as your mobo has argb
https://www.phanteks.com/Neon.html

no hdd led sounds like a plus to me lmfao

[craggy mirage]

I'm to use to the led. Used them for years to tell if something crashed or just slow as hell completing

Seems more you pay, less you get, and new gen can care less. Normal. I'm like everyone else..love the new tech, but like some of the good ole days features.

[elfin trout]

...?

[craggy mirage]

Like the missing speaker or no HDD led.

[elfin trout]

There's just better ways to do everything and the old ways just get in the way imo

like hdd activity isn't indicative of anything you need nowadays, if windows is on the HDD, you shouldn't be buying a 150$ case

debug leds are way better at troubleshooting anything

post codes too

[craggy mirage]

Well, the motherboard and Windows install DVD with no drivers, expecting you to download content, instead of providing a CD or thumb drive on a $400 motherboard, to me is a pain and inconvenient.

[past harbor]

Lots of msi mobos provide a usb w/ drivers, just sayin. If you're built at least one PC should know to automatically get latest drivers using another pc anyways. 🤷‍♂️

[craggy mirage]

Aorus z690

[elfin trout]

tbh I would rather they get rid of dvds but it's there for just in case

[lofty pewter]

Modern mobo + modern OS will come with usable drivers from the get go. Then you can install the latest drivers from a site instead of 2+ year old drivers.

[mild roost]

^

just connect it to internet and it'll grab drivers

[lofty pewter]

Eh, windows already comes with basic stuff. I'd rather not let windows deal with drivers that I want to install as windows rarely has the latest stuff.

[sand atlas]

Latest and greatest are rarely the same

[polar seal]

can i get a an idea for psu cables for this Sea Sonic Focus Px https://seasonic.com/focus-px#gallery
i'm not even sure what the awg is either

i just want 3 PCIe for psu without a extra connector

[craggy mirage]

The problem is, the Z690 Aorus motherboard, came with no drivers, other than what was in the bios to load the panel that's supposed to get the new drivers. Fact it comes with wifi, but not the drivers to actually connect to WiFi, very sloppy in my opinion. For me it's just easy connecting an external drive that has them already downloaded, but the venom in the forums by people who don't have a secondary system at the ready to get those drivers, I can understand their frustration. Few years back when on vacation, the manager purchased a used Asus system and windows home which had no drivers for WiFi or even their slow USB, which causes a problem. I noticed a card reader, which shockingly worked so got his driver's on my phone, and with adapter plugged the card in. He did the rest once being able to connect

[sand atlas]

Seasonic has a compatibility list. That's an A tier so they'll be 16 gauge stock cables. https://seasonic.com/cable-compatibility#

[polar seal]

o thank you

i was trying to find it on there page 😄

[craggy mirage]

Fal, shockingly one of the 3 gamemax power supplies were actually true 1030w with Aura sync cable that works, other two were 850s relabeled which Amazon refunded me for. Been using GameMax for years, except for a Corsair 750 I use for emergency backup, though only has one cable for MB, unlike today's two. All power supplies say use their cables only, others will damage equipment. Since I never got around to actually taking a meter to test voltages, is this use only our cables a farce?

[polar seal]

it's the awg gage, each company has there own wire gage pretty much

although larger wires should be safer even on psu that use smaller wires

the thing is sea sonic doesn't sell there own wires unlike evga

😓 although it would make life much more better if they placed the awg on the items pages

[craggy mirage]

I made Y cables for the Aura Master MB today. Expensive board boasts top of line RGB, yet only two sets of headers. Made two sets so PSU, Fans, Case lighting, and CPU fan all could be controlled by the motherboard. Would be nice if one day they made these things with passthrough.

[tame cape]

A awg 18 wire is pretty standard and can carry constant 300w (4+4eps or 6+2pcie)

[craggy mirage]

Amazons website. Do a search for full tower and get mid tower. Do a search for 16tb spindle and get pages of 3tb drives.

[polar seal]

or place them also in better spots

[craggy mirage]

AWG, the wire gage. Once ordered a 100 foot heavy duty extension cord, pictured the orange cable. Needed it for portable AC. Got an orange extension cable made with speaker wire

[polar seal]

was it a 32 or soemthing?

[craggy mirage]

One sec

Southwire 2549SWUSA1 100-Feet, Contractor Grade, 12/3 Extension Cord, With Lighted End; Red White And Blue, American Made Extension Cord, Indoor and Outdoor Use, Water Resistant Flexible Jacket https://a.co/d/5FRRNnp

This is what I paid for. What I got was actually a return where the customer replaced the cord with something horrible.

[polar seal]

dang rip

[craggy mirage]

Had similar happen with an order of 4 MSI GTX a few years back. One was a swap out which MSI verrafied another registered owner. Sent a copy of the message, because they wouldn't say who it was, and Amazon sent a replacement. Ironic someone swaps something they registered.
.

MSI I'm a bit irked with. They forced an update, and now the software refuses to adknowledge the RGB of my RTX 2060ti. Try searching old versions, and the few places I went, heavily virused.

[polar seal]

you can try open rgb

[craggy mirage]

Open RGB?

[polar seal]

ya

https://openrgb.org/

[craggy mirage]

This I'm going to check right now. Brb

[polar seal]

although it can't find my RTx 3080... maybe you have better luck

i should really ask the people at evga

[tame cape]

2060ti? 😳

[craggy mirage]

Knightwolf, thanks!!!! Finally shut that off. It's nice when your on your system, but when your trying to sleep.

[polar seal]

😅 i know that feeling

[craggy mirage]

It's not the lights so much as my wife making it a point, that if she can't sleep because of my systems lights, neither can I.....

[craggy mirage]

Yup, 2060TI RTX. RGB, forgot if it's 6gb or 8. I'll have to take a look. I got mine off of Newegg while they were still $250. RGB, worked well with RTX Minecraft.

[tame cape]

Maybe 2060 super

6gb

There's no 2060ti

😆

[craggy mirage]

Brb, checking invoice.

MSI RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 Video Card RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G

Your right. I ordered a few GTX cards so my mind hickupped.

Wonder if the ram in those can be upgraded.

[lofty pewter]

Nvidia did a big bad for Turing. Decided that Ti didnt exist (apart from 2080Ti) and used Super

[serene siren]

Also 3090 super

Idk if you saw that yet

[lofty pewter]

Also that be interesting. Usually Windows has some meh driver available to use by default

[serene siren]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/geforce-rtx-3090-super-with-black-cooler-smiles-for-the-camera

[lofty pewter]

Sounds like that was just 3090Ti, but Nvidia realized that using super was bad and they stopped

[serene siren]

Saving every cent and sending even the super branded ones out

Lmao

Kind of like the GTX 2080 appearing a little while ago

[tame cape]

What were you saying?

100% real no virus

[lofty pewter]

Even better with GTX. Which is why I suggest getting a GT 2010Ti Super.

[polar seal]

I can't sleep with any light on

[craggy mirage]

That is so true. By the fact that once I added the drivers, it did a slew of updating, Id haphazard a guess that the builders DVD may have been an earlier version. They mass produce them and put in cheap packaging. I'm willing to bet, had I spent $299 on the retail plastic box one, this most likely wouldn't have happened.

[scenic lance]

How scared should i be to run this psu with my setup
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MV9694K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fMzJNc

[serene siren]

not scared at all

is that your current build?

or are you building a new one

[blissful thistle]

Not scared

[scenic lance]

im taking a 1650 super from a hp pavilion and putting it into that build i made

all i have left to order is matching sticks of ram