cpus-mobo-and-memory

[reef iris]

It's a 750BQ

[wheat salmon]

Oof

[reef iris]

I'll be swapping that out though

[vast meadow]

Yeah definitely want a better PSU

[reef iris]

Goddamn Amazon took that $360 out of my account fast

They usually take a few hours

[vast meadow]

360? What cpu did you get

[reef iris]

5800x

[reef iris]

After tax and everything it was $366. But I rounded down so it hurt less

[vast meadow]

Ahh... You should refund imo for a 5700x tbh... It's like 30$ ish cheaper for a minimal perf drop

[reef iris]

I wanted atleast a 5800x. I did consider the 5700x though

[vast meadow]

actually like 50$ cheaper on newegg https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmhFf7/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-34-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000926wof

[vast meadow]

basically no difference bar price tbh

both 8 cores

slight clock speed improvement on the 5800x i guess

[magic dirge]

Wondering what is the best ram for Asus Rog x570 W/Ryzen 9 3900x running a 6900xt GPU. would like any help.

[grizzled bloom]

Best in what budget? 16gb or 32gb?

[magic dirge]

I was thinking of going 64gb

was looking at Corsait pro 3200 Mh but dont know if i should get something else

4x 16gb

[burnt spear]

please dont

corsair makes terrible ram

and 2x32 is better than 4x16

[magic dirge]

Really I shouldnt fill all ram slots?

What should I look at?

[burnt spear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kGjNnQ/gskill-ripjaws-v-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-64gvk cheapest i see

64gb not worth if youre gaming though

[grizzled bloom]

64gb performs way lower than 16 or 32 and it's way more stressful on the memory controller, even more so if it's 4 sticks

[magic dirge]

Thanks.

[burnt spear]

decent kit of 3200c16 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

[shy mason]

Need help on case. I purchased Lian Li's 011 Dynamic Mini and was able to fit my B660 Tomahawk but there was no room for top fans. I really like the full front and side glass though. Will the 011 Dynamic MID Tower work with such a big MB and 3 top and bottom fans? Or any other recommendations are appreciated.

[vast meadow]

yep

[mild jackal]

Usually, yeah, depends on the sticks.

[grizzled bloom]

Of course, the technical answer is always "it depends"

Just like lawyers

[pseudo pine]

I have the
ASUS - TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) (Socket AM4) USB-C Gen2 AMD Motherboard with LED Lighting
What would be an upgrade from this

[grizzled bloom]

An upgrade for the motherboard? Nothing really, unless you want to do extreme overclocking

[pseudo pine]

Ok just wondering I just wanted to make sure it can handle the ryzen 5 5600

[cursive epoch]

it could easily do it

that board could even take a 5800x with pbo on just fine

[pseudo pine]

I am probably going to need to get a new cpu cooler fan or aio for them I have the stock cooler right now

[grizzled bloom]

You might need to update the bios if you've had it for a while but besides that you've got the latest model

Stock cooler is usually fine unless you overclock

[mild jackal]

I don't think there's a single x570 board that couldn't run a 5600 ambient even without the vrm heatsinks

[pseudo pine]

Ok that sounds great thanks for the help

[obtuse viper]

i have a Rtx 3060 Should i Buy R9 5900x or R5 5600

[grizzled bloom]

For gaming? 5600 is plenty

Even with a higher tier GPU

[obtuse viper]

Gaming and Streaming

[grizzled bloom]

The 3060 will handle most of the streaming load anyway

[hollow thorn]

Nvenc on 3060 is neat

[obtuse viper]

Ya i know but i mabye wanna try some Harder Work on it layter

[hollow thorn]

What work would that be?

Some things will just be gpu accelerated

[obtuse viper]

Like Editing and 3d rendering

[hollow thorn]

Rendering will most likely be gpu accelerated, editing, well, sometimes cpu accel sometimes gpu accel

[grizzled bloom]

Depends on what program but those are mostly GPU accelerated

[hollow thorn]

Also, do you already have an am4 board or something?

Bar 5800x3d, adl can just makes more sense in general

[obtuse viper]

Ya i have a am4 motherboard

[hollow thorn]

ah

[obtuse viper]

Will the 3060 Bottleneck the 5600?

[hollow thorn]

Bottlenecking depends on the application and shouldn't matter that much in this case

[obtuse viper]

ok

[grizzled bloom]

Generally you want the GPU running at or near 100% anyway, so the CPU can send frames out faster and reduce latency

Unless you're doing esports

[obtuse viper]

Oh ok

Cpu depented Games

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah most esports games like Valorant and CS:GO will hit the CPU a lot harder than the GPU

[hollow thorn]

There's also just at 1080p, you should be 100fps+ in most games anyways

[obtuse viper]

ya im trying to get the maximal Preformec but Idk

[hollow thorn]

Bottleneck implies you're getting the max performance out of one thing

[grizzled bloom]

There is no way to not have a bottleneck in any computer

It will always be something holding something else back

CPU, GPU, RAM, SSD, even the game engine can

[hollow thorn]

But bottlenecking in general doesn't actually matter that much, just because you can get 5% more fps from a 12900k versus 5600x, doesn't mean the 5600x is hurting your performance that badly

[obtuse viper]

oh pkey

I have the buget to get the R9 but idk if its worth it Thats all

[grizzled bloom]

It's really not worth spending double to get 5% more frames

[obtuse viper]

okey Thanks

[burnt harness]

looks around for Fal’Cie

Ahhh! Lol

[steel bluff]

Is 100$ for an asus b660m-aD4 good?

[hollow thorn]

used or?

[steel bluff]

New

[burnt harness]

AM4?

[steel bluff]

It’s intel

B660

[hollow thorn]

It's fine

[steel bluff]

Ic ic should I wait till prices drop or go for it?

[hollow thorn]

Good deal new if it's what you're gonna grab

[steel bluff]

I’m planning on getting a 12600k off a guy

Thank you

[burnt harness]

Don’t forget about overclocking that i5-12600K, can the B660 series do that?

[hollow thorn]

B660 won't oc but you don't need oc anyways

Intel also did a weird thing where 12600k gets e cores and 12600 doesn't

[burnt harness]

Oh got ya. I’m behind the times. Just recently got a 9700K. Lol. I need to learn more about e cores and v cores.

Is it 12th Gen exclusive?

[hollow thorn]

How the product lineup is split up is just weird

ye, having p and e cores is a new thing from 12th gen

[burnt harness]

P!

I knew that. Lol.

[hollow thorn]

Performance cores and efficiency cores

[burnt harness]

Sounds good! I’m enjoying having a real bios and pretty colors on the ram. Lol

[cerulean wadi]

Even the plain 6core 12400 is a rocking gaming cpu btw.

[reef iris]

So I got my 5800x installed today. But my system won't post with the ram clocked over 2800MHz

I originally thought that my old 2600 was the issue. But now I'm thinking this B450 just might not like over 3000MHz

[grizzled bloom]

Are you enabling XMP or just turning up the frequency?

[reef iris]

Using DOCP

[grizzled bloom]

Ok, and what kit of memory?

[reef iris]

Time I click DOCP in bios, the system adjusts my clocks to 3600. But it won't post with it

[vernal cosmos]

what exact kit of ram?

[reef iris]

Checking the exact one. I've had it installed for a while

[vernal cosmos]

2 sticks or 4 sticks

[reef iris]

2 x 16gb

Patriot Viper Steel RGB DDR4 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600MHz Kit - PVSR432G360C0K

[grizzled bloom]

smh patriot

They're the cheapest of the cheap, no wonder xmp doesn't work

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

[reef iris]

oof

[vernal cosmos]

3600c20

ouchie

[reef iris]

They're XMP won't even work to clock to 3000

I figured it should atleast go over 2800

[vernal cosmos]

tbf some of their kits are pretty nice but yeah

[grizzled bloom]

Patriot literally takes the chips other brands threw out and bins them

[vernal cosmos]

3000 mhz or mts

[reef iris]

Mhz

[dull flint]

[vernal cosmos]

should work at 3000 c20

but at that point

[grizzled bloom]

Basically jedec speed at that point

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

3200 c22

[reef iris]

I bought it a while back because I needed 32gb and I got it for like $80 after a amazon promo

[grizzled bloom]

Now you know why it was so cheap lol

[reef iris]

Otherwise I would've just been basic and gotten Trident Zs or something

[grizzled bloom]

Cheapest 2x16 kit worth getting is currently $165

[reef iris]

Which kit?

[grizzled bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

[sharp cairn]

I think I have that in 2x8gb format

[dull flint]

hey question, is it important to match sodimm timings or is it easier to go with a faster additional stick

[grizzled bloom]

Similar kits yeah

[reef iris]

Well since I'm just upgrading everything I might grab it

[sharp cairn]

i'm gonna be upgrading eventually from 2x8 to 2x16.

[grizzled bloom]

Ideally you want matched sticks but if you mix kits it'll run at the slowest rated speed

Assuming it works at all

[sharp cairn]

right now my timing on the RAM is 16-19-19-39

[dull flint]

I'm trying to match a 2933 cl21 hynix stick and I can't find it anywhere

[grizzled bloom]

Any jedec stick will do for that

[dull flint]

ah fair ok

[grizzled bloom]

Is that for a B460 board or something

[dull flint]

wait, me?

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah, B460 maxed out at 2933 speed, is that why you're looking for that?

[dull flint]

no no, laptop

[grizzled bloom]

Ahh, yeah same deal

[dull flint]

thanks

[grizzled bloom]

With timings that loose just about any second stick will probably work

I've even mixed different sizes in my laptops

[vernal cosmos]

ram mixing not a big issue in laptops

[cerulean wadi]

This is why I like Ebay. This seller had 4 of these kits so I should've bought a 2nd one for later. It is single rank I think, but doesn't matter.

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah true, not many reasons to not buy used ram. It's not like it has moving parts to wear out.

[dull flint]

ballistix stonks

[burnt spear]

3200c16 is 105

Sp

[grizzled bloom]

And you'd be comfortable putting that into a 5800X system?

[burnt spear]

Depending on how much it costs for the whole build

[vernal cosmos]

i have 2 3600c16 sticks and 2 3200c16 stick running 3600c16 in my pc rn

lolol

[burnt spear]

Currently running 3200c16 on my 3600 because I'm too lazy to try ocing again, since all the subvoltages are hidden in asrock bios

[vernal cosmos]

all ballistix (rev e) tho so all good

[cerulean wadi]

this was "brand new" btw (made last year , but still).

This is $185 on newegg... - Shall I get it? Soon enough I'd have a 2nd ddr4 pc. Ah, but ballistix do have slightly better stock timings. Hah, imagine running this at just XMP.

[grizzled bloom]

It'll jump up at the end of the auction to at least $160 probably

Wait, RGB, $170

[cerulean wadi]

Oh that's right, not big on RGBVDJKHCDSLUYDHAJKLDSHU - When needed, I'll just hunt down another good kit of endangered ballistix.

[vernal cosmos]

me

[cerulean wadi]

opens trenchcoat: "hey man, want to buy some ballistix?" never used and only installed touched once.

[vernal cosmos]

i have 2 more sticks

total of 8

only the 6 new ones in that pic

[grizzled bloom]

Got enough for a threadripper there

[vernal cosmos]

sheesh

[grizzled bloom]

3995WX and its octo channel goodness

[vernal cosmos]

whelp time to start a gofundme for tr

[ripe wharf]

QVL for Asus ROG strix b550-f Gaming Wifi

I cant find it online

and all of the stuff i find is like 400 dollars

since they dont make some of the ram anymore lol

I have a ryzen 9 3900x

[dull flint]

Don't worry too much about QVL

[vernal cosmos]

dont need to worry about qvl

get any kit with the timings u need

[ripe wharf]

how can I compare timings

[vernal cosmos]

looking at them

[ripe wharf]

hmm

Im dumb

rn

:P

[dull flint]

Some websites let you filter timings

Like newegg

[ripe wharf]

Cas latency?

or like

[dull flint]

Yes cas latency generally

[ripe wharf]

If the timing is wrong

that means i cant use D.O.C.P

right?

[dull flint]

No

[ripe wharf]

then whats the point of getting ram the same timing other than preformance

[vernal cosmos]

ok how much ram u need

@ripe wharf

[ripe wharf]

I wanna make a streaming setup

ram is the only thing i cant understand lol

I have r9 3900x

[vernal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

put all the parts u have in there

or all the parts u gonna buy

[cerulean wadi]

For streaming, 32GB might be helpful. You don't need to spend over $200. Here's an example: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc
(although various kits of something like 3200c16 or 4000c18 can be at least $50 cheaper.

[ripe wharf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LQK4sL

[vernal cosmos]

what all have u purchased?

[ripe wharf]

@cerulean wadi

[ripe wharf]

everything

but ram

[vernal cosmos]

what all can u return

[ripe wharf]

why

[vernal cosmos]

all of this was good like last year

its ehhh now

[ripe wharf]

Ik

[vernal cosmos]

and the case is absolute garbage

[ripe wharf]

yea ik

I have it built

lol

My ram wont go docp

[vernal cosmos]

when did u build

[ripe wharf]

2020

i think

[vernal cosmos]

and what ram u got

[ripe wharf]

AH

[vernal cosmos]

please get a new case as well tho

also what cpu cooler

[vernal cosmos]

ah good for that time

[ripe wharf]

model # cmw32gx4m4d3600c18

[dull flint]

Vengeance

[ripe wharf]

YES

[vernal cosmos]

yeah figures

3600 c18 too

[grizzled bloom]

Oh look another subpar kit that can't do its rated timings

Second one tonight

[ripe wharf]

lol

so what do i do

[dull flint]

So you can get it to docp?

[ripe wharf]

yea

fails to boot

take out cmos

put it back in

gpu too fat

so i got to take it out too

annoying

[dull flint]

Fails to boot is a bad sign of stability

[ripe wharf]

yea

so i thought it was ram compatibility

[vernal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPQLK4

id buy those 2 things

[ripe wharf]

I dont wanna gut my pc

lol

is 4x8 cheaper

[vernal cosmos]

ur pc will thank u

lol

[ripe wharf]

or is 2x16

[dull flint]

Well you could put the time in instead to try stabilise that ram kit

[vernal cosmos]

harder to run even if cheaper

[ripe wharf]

wdym?

[vernal cosmos]

no telling if itll actually run tbh if u have bad imc

[ripe wharf]

ah ok

[vernal cosmos]

harder on the memory controller

fr tho change case

the case u have is one of the worst ones out there

[ripe wharf]

Also 32*c idle

I clean my pc often

[dull flint]

Idle is not an indicator of good temps

[vernal cosmos]

doesnt matter case sucks

its got no airflow

[ripe wharf]

Challenge accepted?

[grizzled bloom]

There's a reason for that emote

[vernal cosmos]

h510 elite too

[ripe wharf]

BURN

BABY BURN

[vernal cosmos]

but yeah whaty cooler u got

[ripe wharf]

Prism

it came with the cpu

[vernal cosmos]

oh no

[dull flint]

[ripe wharf]

there is no diff

trust

I had a 3600

before

[grizzled bloom]

Now if you don't want to gut the computer you can probably salvage it from being the worst case on market to just below average with an aftermarket front panel

[dull flint]

Damn

[vernal cosmos]

?

3600

[dull flint]

H510, corsair sticks and wraith cooler on 3900x

[vernal cosmos]

h510 elite

[grizzled bloom]

Cursed build fr

[vernal cosmos]

even worse than normal h510

[dull flint]

I tell you what you've come to the right place for help

[vernal cosmos]

oh also msi armor cooler

ALSO 150$ windows key

guys it gets worse

but anyway

[grizzled bloom]

Yep was about to link lol

[dull flint]

That'll help a lot

[ripe wharf]

will do

thank U

[grizzled bloom]

Cheaper and easier than a new case too

[vernal cosmos]

it doesnt wanna do us site for me

just indian one

ree

[dull flint]

Also an LF2, maybe sell the corsair sticks and get the ripjaws linked earlier

[ripe wharf]

Is there no mesh?

[grizzled bloom]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1061920401/nzxt-h510-elite-front-airflow-panel-42

[vernal cosmos]

There ya go

[ripe wharf]

its just an open hole in the front panel

[dull flint]

Yes

[vernal cosmos]

yes

[dull flint]

Because it needs it

[ripe wharf]

theres no mesh

LMAO

[vernal cosmos]

yes

[ripe wharf]

i can just take the front panel off

at that point

[dull flint]

You could, would still be better

[ripe wharf]

lol

[vernal cosmos]

select hexagon style

[grizzled bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[vernal cosmos]

thats mesh

[ripe wharf]

Its just replacing a front panel

with a front panel with 90% holes

Thats just a dust machine

[grizzled bloom]

Get fan filters if it bothers you

Or an air duster

[vernal cosmos]

do that

its mesh

[ripe wharf]

ah thank u

[grizzled bloom]

The alternative is a new case

[dull flint]

Also this
https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-cooling-system-n-a/p/2YM-004H-00018

Don't use wraith on that cpu

[ripe wharf]

There is no mesh

Nzxt water cooler?

[dull flint]

Sure

[ripe wharf]

should I

YEA

ok

[dull flint]

If you prefer

[grizzled bloom]

Just so you know we're not full of it
https://youtu.be/sTWYifGSUXs

[devout moth]

Noirnit#0651 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ripe wharf]

ah

my b

[dull flint]

Just make sure it's 240mm

In that case

[ripe wharf]

I used the f word

i got warned

[grizzled bloom]

It fits 280 doesn't it

[dull flint]

Does it? Then 280 lol

[ripe wharf]

I dont need aio

tho

im ok with air

[dull flint]

I don't look hard at nzxt cases

[ripe wharf]

60*c

isnt bad tho

as long as it doesnt go 80

in load

it should be good no?

[grizzled bloom]

Technically the CPU starts thinking about throttling at 80, heavy throttling by 90, shutdown at 95

[ripe wharf]

yea

so as long as its under those limits

it should be good

[vernal cosmos]

3600x doesnt shut down at 105C

i know because ive tried

[ripe wharf]

i have a 3900s

[vernal cosmos]

dw about it

[ripe wharf]

3900x

got it

corsair case?

[grizzled bloom]

4000d airflow is good

[ripe wharf]

:)

[burnt spear]

My 3600 used to run at 90c

Thanks skytech

Gave me a heatsink worse than stock

Se-224xt with paste that came with the cooler keeps it under 70c for gaming

Maybe just around 70

[ripe wharf]

Just to make sure

the ram u gave me

will most likely work in docp?

[burnt spear]

I'd get this case at 95 over p400a digital at 110

[grizzled bloom]

Unless your memory controller is so bad it should have failed validation, yes it should

[ripe wharf]

Bios update?

[grizzled bloom]

Occasionally helps, occasionally hurts

[ripe wharf]

got it

[grizzled bloom]

Often no changes though

[ripe wharf]

also last question

my friends usb devices are electrocuting him

I have no idea on how to fix that

[grizzled bloom]

Bad ground

[ripe wharf]

so psu swap?

[grizzled bloom]

Or the power brick

[ripe wharf]

no power brick

[grizzled bloom]

Straight into the wall?

[ripe wharf]

wiat

[ripe wharf]

I think so

i dont remember seeing one

Thunder STRUCK

[burnt spear]

Isn't that a song?

[ripe wharf]

yea

t'was a joke

[grizzled bloom]

By AC DC

[burnt spear]

Oh

[grizzled bloom]

Fitting

[burnt spear]

Words

[reef iris]

Is the x570 godlike still MSI's top tier board?

I know they have the creation as well. So I'm just wondering which makes more sense

[grizzled bloom]

Neither "makes sense" unless you're doing subzero overclocking

[reef iris]

Damn really?

So I guess I'd be looking more at the x570 MEG boards and the carbon boards

[grizzled bloom]

Those are better for standard overclocking yeah

[reef iris]

I'm a bit confused with them though

They're all so close in price and practically all look the same

[vernal cosmos]

dont go x570 tbh

get a b550 board

[reef iris]

[vernal cosmos]

b550 aorus master is an absolute unit

[grizzled bloom]

You typically only need X570 if you're doing multiple gen 4 nvme drives or multi GPU.

The drawbacks outweigh the benefits otherwise

[reef iris]

I mean the Aorus Master is still $300

[vernal cosmos]

its better than the x570 meg tho

i thought u wanted something around that price range

[reef iris]

Honestly I'm fine with paying up to maybe $400

But I don't plan on buying gen 4 nvme drives

[vernal cosmos]

the b550 master is a 300$ board with the quality of something like a 500$ one

literally

its amazing

[reef iris]

They could've tried a little bit more in terms of aesthetics but it is a good price

[reef iris]

Drawbacks being price? Or something else?

[long geyser]

What exactly are you looking for when buying an expensive mobo?

[reef iris]

Jesus the Aorus Master supports DDR4 5200

[vernal cosmos]

active cooled chipset vs passive, worse vrms for the same price since x570 is older etc

[vernal cosmos]

ur cpu wont dw

4000 absolute peak for 1:1

[reef iris]

Honestly, I just want a board that does

[vast meadow]

Honestly if you're getting a new board you should just go intel 12th gen anyway these days

[reef iris]

Just bought a 5800x

[vernal cosmos]

return

get 5800x3d or 12th gen intel

[reef iris]

I don't wanna pay the extra for a 5800x3d

[vernal cosmos]

and 5800x3d cant be oced anyway\

[vast meadow]

Ohh wait you're the one who already has a b450 gigabyte aorus elite eight?

[reef iris]

and z690 boards are crazy expensive

[vast meadow]

But are willing to pay 300$ for a mobo??

[vast meadow]

Nah like 200$

[vernal cosmos]

i mean 5800x to 5800x3d is such a massive leap in gaming perf tho

rather get a b550 aorus elite and run a 5800x3d

5800x3d cant be oced anyway

[vast meadow]

Or save the 40$ ish and get 5700x

[long geyser]

You're also looking at extremely pricy x570 boards and actively considering them. Given that fact you can easily afford z690 too

[reef iris]

It can't be OCed?

[reef iris]

Well you're not wrong. I'm just a bit biased towards AMD

[long geyser]

Not easily. You either get lucky with a board that doesnt follow AMD specs or you do BLCK OC

[grizzled bloom]

Only through bclk, they locked multiplier

[vast meadow]

Sooo? You can still use pbo on it which is all you wanna do on zen 3 anyway

[grizzled bloom]

Yep, PBO has nothing to do with multiplier

[reef iris]

So, it's basically the same experience since PBO is already what we use?

[long geyser]

AMD is still kinda a not amazing buy tho cuz price

Depends, PBO is nice for single core clocks but not that great for all core

[grizzled bloom]

5800x3D is the only one that makes sense compared against high end Intel in gaming

[reef iris]

The past 2 years of not really paying attention to new releases is catching up with me now

I spent atleast 3 hours last night just figuring out PBO and Ryzen Master

[long geyser]

Tho, at the same time I kinda find it hard to recommend a 12900 for gaming only

[vernal cosmos]

ok so lemme make it very easy. pbo = good. ryzen master = uninstall that crap instantly

[reef iris]

Well what I gathered was that Ryzen Master was how you figure out values right? Then you take them and put them in bios

[long geyser]

What's your GPU and do you plan to upgrade soon-ish?

[reef iris]

Like For TDC, EDC, and PPT

[vast meadow]

but you have a capable motherboard for the 5800x either dont buy a new motherboard or go intel 12th gen anyway

[reef iris]

I want to grab a 3080 this week but I'm still using my 1650 at the moment

[reef iris]

I mean my B450 barely seem capable

seems*

[burnt spear]

what model?

[reef iris]

What model 3080 you mean?

[burnt spear]

b450

[vast meadow]

it is you said its an aourus elite

or something

[grizzled bloom]

I never said 12900k. Gotta compare price brackets.
With Z690 costing more 5800X3D compares to the 12700k.

[reef iris]

It's the original F Gaming from Asus

[vast meadow]

thats also good enough

b450 rog f would handle a 5800x with po

[burnt spear]

are you comparing with benches or gaming?

[grizzled bloom]

Pricing, nothing else

[burnt spear]

ahh

in benches it performs same as 5800x

for gaming it beats 12900ks (from early comparisons)

it also gets a ton hotter than 5800x

[grizzled bloom]

The games that use the extra cache blow the 12900ks out of the water

[burnt spear]

i can see why they didnt allow us to oc it

sorry typo

i can see*

[reef iris]

I also wanted a new board due to this one not having ARGB. I know it's pretty minor, but it's always bugged me

[burnt spear]

ocing that thing would lead to throttling on a 360 lf2

[vast meadow]

then go intel 12th gen if you where to get a new mobo

[grizzled bloom]

You could get a rgb controller that connects to a USB header

[long geyser]

Cheapest thing you could do is Arduino Pro Micro hooked upto PC. Second cheapest is just a random RGB controller

[reef iris]

I was gonna order some Unifans and see if I could connect a argb cable to the fan controller

But their adapter kit is never in stock and everywhere else it's like $50

[vast meadow]

you can get one for like 10$

[long geyser]

That's fair. Tho it still kinda does feel eh given the worse multi core.

[grizzled bloom]

That's why it's a gaming only comparison

[long geyser]

Ye I know

[reef iris]

I'll look for one of those then

[naive pendant]

Got my x99 hardware back

[dim cloak]

Should I attempt a X58 build?

[naive pendant]

sure why not?

what do you wanna build it for?

though if it were me i'd go for x79

im totally not biased or anything

[dim cloak]

Just so I can put my 3090 on a i7-920

[naive pendant]

alright lol

[burnt harness]

Hexagon style for the win!

I got mine here. https://www.etsy.com/shop/RadWorx?ref=yr_purchases

The Doc sticker was from ebay, I just cut off the G Fuel part on this one.

[burnt harness]

Def 280mm. Both the nzxt h510 elite fans are 140mm

[cerulean wadi]

12400 is $175 at Amazon. That's $167ish after 5% back later.

[gilded cape]

Anyone know the best intel cpu for a 3050 under $250?

[cerulean wadi]

Would be 12600K when it was $230, but I said the next best.

[grizzled bloom]

Any 12th gen Intel core processor really

[cerulean wadi]

If 12100 was $100-120 that'll be a nice choice also, especially considering a 3050.

[main pulsar]

12100F is

[pseudo pine]

Would I need an aio for a ryzen 9 5900x upgrading from a ryzen 5 3600

Or can I just use the stock cooler

[cursive epoch]

no

don't use stock cooler

get something like 360mm aio

[vernal cosmos]

Not fans u want on an aio tho tbh

[cursive epoch]

liquid freezer ii is a good choice

[burnt harness]

I appreciate the insight RAWR. Should I use the fans included in the Kraken X63 box? Or would you go a different route?

[vernal cosmos]

Id grab some p14s tbh

[pseudo pine]

Would it be worth it to upgrade to a 5600 from a 3600

[cerulean wadi]

I'd say so, well especially if you get it for $150-160 like it is at an MC w/ their $50off coupon perhaps.

[pseudo pine]

I was also looking at the 5700x but I am trying not to have to get an aio if not needed

[grizzled bloom]

5700X won't need AIO

[pseudo pine]

I was looking to just grab the wraith stealth cooler off amazon

[grizzled bloom]

For a few dollars more you can have the SE 224 that's 10x better

[pseudo pine]

@grizzled bloom thanks that would work

[burnt harness]

The grey p14s Redux PWM 1500. look nice. $17 on Amazon right now. Would two of those work on the kraken x63?

[vernal cosmos]

im talking about arctic p14

not noctua

[burnt harness]

Ohh haha

Fal’Cie I got this. I can do it myself….

[grizzled bloom]

Arctic has rgb at that price

[burnt harness]

smacks self in head

[grizzled bloom]

Lol don't worry I'm not in the mood for links or anything

[burnt harness]

It’s too early or too late I know. Lol.

Okay first one that answers wins, tubes up or down?

[grizzled bloom]

Doesn't technically matter

[burnt harness]

Correct!

[grizzled bloom]

Down is a couple decibels quieter but nothing noticeable

[burnt harness]

Lol. GamersNexus with the updated video. Jays2cents too

I’m gonna just go with the flow, no pun intended and get it done.

[vast meadow]

I'd recommend grabbing the deepcool ak620 with the 5700x it's a great air cooler and only 65$

[burnt spear]

@stiff kraken not sure if you need it for any of your laptops, but there's a 32gb kit of crucial on newegg deals

[polar moth]

Hey been looking at RAM, I could not find a very specific ram model for my current RAM.

The Oloy 3000Mhz c16 Saturn seems not to be on Amazon. So as long I get another RAM kit from same brand but different model, as long speed and c16 matches it'll be fine, yeah?

[burnt spear]

It's 3200 but unsure of timings

[burnt spear]

Should be

[polar moth]

👍

[vernal cosmos]

Laptop so has to be jdec

3200c22

[vernal cosmos]

How lucky u feeling?

Its a gamble

[vast meadow]

There's a few non jedec kits

[vernal cosmos]

U can get the exact same kit and still have it not work

[vernal cosmos]

Not by crucial

[polar moth]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-wait-what-confused-gif-15074314

[burnt spear]

ah sad

[polar moth]

What do you mean by gamble?

[vernal cosmos]

I mean testing ur luck

It may work

It may kill ur windows install

Can go either way

[polar moth]

Wut

[vast meadow]

Yup

[polar moth]

Kill my Windows Install? that's a first time I ever hear about it

[vast meadow]

Ram manufacturers can use different ram modules even on the same rated kits

Mixing at jedec should be fine but that's 3200c22

But mixing at xmp... Sometimes it will work sometimes it will be unstable

And unstable ram can kill your windows install

[polar moth]

Uh, I've brought a 3000MHZ c16 same timing and whatnot as my Saturn ones but different design on pcb heatsink.

So I still have to gamble to see if it works?

[vast meadow]

I would try find out what ram chip is used on your sticks then go to a shop and match the ram chit on the new kit you're buying - this only works in shops tho as they will say the ram chip on the label - sometimes but usually a tad coded depending on manufacturer

[vast meadow]

You can gamble... Might be able to check the ram chip though

If you put all the sticks you have in and boot with xmp turned off then you wont hurt windows, i don't think oloy say the chip on the label so you'll have to download taiphoon burner and have it guess the die(ram chip)

[polar moth]

this one?

[vast meadow]

Yup

[burnt spear]

Almost all oloy ram uses hynix iirc

Either hynix or samsung

[vast meadow]

There do be
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820164169

[burnt spear]

cant hurt to double check

[vast meadow]

Yeah but even then you'd wanna check which hynix or Samsung die

[burnt spear]

ye

actually its most likely hynix

[vernal cosmos]

Interesting

[burnt spear]

still cant hurt to be safe

[vast meadow]

Could easily be Samsung c die

[vernal cosmos]

It appears i was in orrect

[burnt spear]

apparently they use samsung micron and hynix, but hynix is most common

[vernal cosmos]

Watch thaiphoon say samsung b die lolol

[burnt spear]

lol

[vast meadow]

Then we know it's c die tho lel

[vernal cosmos]

Yi but stil funi

[vast meadow]

Indood

[burnt spear]

watch thaiphoon say rev e

[vernal cosmos]

Nahhhh

[burnt spear]

[vernal cosmos]

Im actually not aware of rev e in non ballistix kits

[vast meadow]

Only manufacturer of ram that doesn't use a mix of all 3 at some point in at least one kit is probably crucial

[burnt spear]

izz joke

[vast meadow]

Corsair have some

[vernal cosmos]

Cring

[vernal cosmos]

I said because i wondr if anyone else use

[burnt spear]

ah

i use

i make my own ram

[vernal cosmos]

Ur mom use

Gotteem

[burnt spear]

[polar moth]

Well well I'm feelin lucky cause both brands are Oloy, same C16 and timings as well Mhz. I'll keep you guys tuned in when the order arrives and I install it and see what happens when I hit the power button.

[burnt spear]

fair warning

if the dies are different, windows might boot

but if you start experiencing blue screens, its most likely the ram

that was the only sign for me

i ignored it for like 2 weeks and then windows fully corrupted

[devout moth]

Nether#5648 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[burnt spear]

had to wipe everything off my main drive to fix it

[polar moth]

k bot

ah sheet

[vernal cosmos]

U can buy the exact same model and have it still not work btw

Like exact same

[polar moth]

so it's a gamble till I buy a reliable brand

[vernal cosmos]

No

[burnt spear]

not really

[polar moth]

and replace my ram of course

[burnt spear]

even reliable brands have diff dies

[polar moth]

whack

[vernal cosmos]

Its a gamble unless u have crucial ballistix

[burnt spear]

which is hard to find new at a good price now

consistently anyways

ill check pcp

[vast meadow]

Or a kit that can only be achieved by b die

[vast meadow]

Discontinued :(

[polar moth]

I see one at 82 dollars

One left in stock tho

[burnt spear]

for a 16gb kit not worth

one sec

if you want a 32gb kit https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5 16gb kit

[polar moth]

That ram looks sweet aeshetically

and I scrolled down and saw this lol

[burnt spear]

from what i can tell oloy is the cheapish brand pre built companies tend to go with

[polar moth]

yep, can confirm that. My prebuilt pc came with it

[burnt spear]

so did mine

[polar moth]

It holds up well, no crashes or anything even with me running 2 monitors

[burnt spear]

that i no longer have

[polar moth]

and why is that? upgrades?

[burnt spear]

it was a terible pre built

only things left from it are the ssd gpu and cpu

never buy skytech

terrible company

[polar moth]

i recommended my friend skytech...

[burnt spear]

did they but it yet

[polar moth]

or more rather like he found a prebuilt itself and he showed it to me and I was like hmm lets see the reviews

hmm reviews gud. yes go buy

days later he gets it, ever since it seems to not have any issues

[burnt spear]

mine had the wrong psu, that they wouldnt replace

a mobo that died 3 months after purchase

a heatsink worse than stock

[polar moth]

what was worth salvaging

[burnt spear]

oem case (normal with pre builts)

gpu cpu and ssd

ram somehow died as well a few months later

which is near impossible

if its working so far, then its working

[polar moth]

Ah, I did mine except not a whole ass new build. I just replaced my cpu cooler, pc case and new fan sets technically.

[burnt spear]

but id check cpu temps, id check the power supply to make sure its the right one

they also almost exclusively use thermaltake psus

[polar moth]

[burnt spear]

which tend to be terrible

[polar moth]

I have a thermaltake psu running in my build atm

[burnt spear]

thats a fat rip

psu prices kinda suck atm too

what model?

[polar moth]

I could buy a new psu next week but uh I see no reason if my pc is working well, I brought it and got it back October 25 last year

lemme look up

[burnt spear]

psus seem fine, until theyre not

and fry your system

[polar moth]

let's move convo to somewhere else yeah?

[burnt spear]

eh

i have to go anyways

in class

[polar moth]

Smart series 600w

[vernal cosmos]

Ram dontcare how many monitors u got

[polar moth]

ah, I thought it was the case. alright good to know

[vernal cosmos]

Unless ur running igpu

[polar moth]

I am atm.

[vernal cosmos]

And both monitors to igpu

[polar moth]

Yes and no

[vernal cosmos]

F

[polar moth]

Gaming 1440p runs from GPU itself, and secondary monitor runs to igpu

So the psu frying system, does it occur that fast? or can I prevent that from happening?

[vernal cosmos]

Nope

Nothing u can do

Itll work till it doesnt

[polar moth]

[vast meadow]

Oloy also make some of the best b die kits

[polar moth]

So my choices are to go buy a reliable PSU brand and replace it soon or test my luck see how it can last long?

Really dont wanna lose my system after I just quit the job.

[vernal cosmos]

Yes

U can but a surge protector or ups

[vast meadow]

User reviews basically mean nothing unfortunately

[vernal cosmos]

And clean up power delivery to the pc

[polar moth]

it's plugged into surge protected power strip

Could plug into my girl's UPS from APC

[vast meadow]

[polar moth]

ight

[polar moth]

Hey my RAM is 5 stops away.

Time to find out soon if my PC can boot with both installed.

[polar moth]

RAM Is here. Time to find out.

[vernal cosmos]

Itll boot

No telling how long windows will stay stable tho

[polar moth]

That ranges from minutes to hours?

[vernal cosmos]

To days to weeks to months

[polar moth]

Is that only way to know if it's stable or not or can I do MemTest?

[vernal cosmos]

Run thaiphoon

And send screenshots for each stick

Also memtest is poop use testmem5

[polar moth]

Is this Screenshots Image fine? Not too complicated or too big?

[vernal cosmos]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/wiki/How-To-Download-And-Use-TM5

[vernal cosmos]

Screenshots are of the same kit

[hollow thorn]

Wait, CWT ram? Wat

[vernal cosmos]

Send of the new kit

Or tge old kit

[polar moth]

Was asking if my SSs are in proper like not too big or too small yk but I'll send them

[vernal cosmos]

Click read and choose all 4 sticks

[vernal cosmos]

Its actually an oloy kit

[hollow thorn]

Ye but the OEM

Looks really similar to the name of a PSU OEM

Channel well technology

[vernal cosmos]

Indeed

[polar moth]

How do I Read all of them, the only option I can are each ram sticks

[hollow thorn]

Anyways do remember thaiphoon only guesses, but guessing is probably the only option you have for oloy sticks

[polar moth]

No All Rams, only individual sticks

[vernal cosmos]

U read one send screenshot

Read 2nd send screenshot

Read 3rd send screenshot

Read 4th send screenshot

[polar moth]

I meant i thought you said there is a button to read all of them in one go lol my bad gotcha

[vernal cosmos]

There is rip off heatspreader trick

[polar moth]

RAM 1 Channel

RAM 2 Channel

RAM 3 Channel

RAM 4 Channel

[vernal cosmos]

Ur gamble hath payed off

[polar moth]

2 and 4 are Old and Current. 1 and 3 are New Oloy RAM Sticks that just came in today

[vernal cosmos]

Should be fine

[polar moth]

How'd you know?

[vernal cosmos]

Part number for the die itself is the same

[hollow thorn]

Slightly different pcb it seems

[vernal cosmos]

Yeah

But close enough that itll be fine

[hollow thorn]

Tbh it's the same xmp thaiphoon would probably guess the same die even if it's different

But well, it's the same xmp, should work for now

[vernal cosmos]

I dont think thiaphoon is that dum tbf

[polar moth]

I checked the ram speed, timing. All same.

[vernal cosmos]

Dont matter

[hollow thorn]

I mean, it only really guesses so

[polar moth]

Oh ok

[hollow thorn]

Btw are half of the sticks rgb and half of them not?

[vernal cosmos]

But yeah to be sure do this

[polar moth]

No. All non rgb

[hollow thorn]

Alright

[vernal cosmos]

Its 2 different kits

By oloy

[hollow thorn]

A2 seems to be more common on rgb sticks, A0 non-rgb

Prob doesn't really matter though

[polar moth]

Yeah Saturn Kit and then the gaming kit by Oloy

[stiff kraken]

link?

[stiff kraken]

no, my laptop supports full ram oc remember?

heard of people running 3600c16 or better on MSI laptops

3200c17 was the best I could squeeze out of the OEM ram

[burnt spear]

It's in the shell-shockers tab or whatever it is

https://www.newegg.com/crucial-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820156263?

Copying links on mobile is annoying

[vernal cosmos]

yis but like mnoydt sticks dor laptops

[stiff kraken]

mnoydt?

[vernal cosmos]

yes

mnoydt = most

[stiff kraken]

what does that mean

[vernal cosmos]

i decree it

[stiff kraken]

oh

[vernal cosmos]

100% not a typo

[stiff kraken]

my laptop doesn't care about jedec

I specifically chose this laptop so I could ram oc

[vernal cosmos]

3800c14 when

[stiff kraken]

the only time I can say MSI is the best brand and it's true

😤

[stiff kraken]

lol probably not happening on sodimm pcbs

best i've seen so far was 3600c16

[vernal cosmos]

idk man they made good cases my frend saided me that

msi cases goodest

[hollow thorn]

rip your friend

[vernal cosmos]

Lmao

but yes agf nice too

[hollow thorn]

a gf can be nice but can also have problems

[stiff kraken]

any info on what die this is? since it's 3200c22

[hollow thorn]

inaccurate pwr ok is sad

[stiff kraken]

if i'm upgrading laptop ram it must be rev. e or rev. b for overclocking

[hollow thorn]

rev e sodimm?

[vernal cosmos]

my old one was too demanding and possessive

[stiff kraken]

yeah rev. e sodimms exist

[hollow thorn]

huh

[stiff kraken]

that's what people got 3600c16 on

[hollow thorn]

:p

[burnt spear]

Nah I just took a quick look at it

Sorry

[stiff kraken]

I found rev. e kit with 3200c16 xmp on ebay for like $80

but 16gb

16gb upgrade doesn't seem worth it either

want to go for 32gb rev. e if I'm gonna upgrade

[vernal cosmos]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820164169

[stiff kraken]

lol would be funny if my laptop has 32gb and my desktop has 16gb

$190

that's a lot

[hollow thorn]

not familiar with sodimms, are there dual rank rev e sodimms? or would you have to get 16gbit rev b?

[vernal cosmos]

LOL

yeh

[stiff kraken]

my birthday is in 6 months wanna get it for me

[stiff kraken]

yeah dual rank sodimm exist

[burnt spear]

If this helps at all

[stiff kraken]

sorry it doesn't

thaiphoon would

[burnt spear]

Reviews other than that don't seem like anything useful

[vernal cosmos]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Laptop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16S4B/dp/B083W5ZRJ1

[burnt spear]

I gotchu, I'll buy a kit to run thaiphoon

[stiff kraken]

this would be a great birthday gift @vernal cosmos

also a dual rank b-die kit

[vernal cosmos]

it would be yeah

[stiff kraken]

and a 5800X3D

[vernal cosmos]

ill send u one thats thaiphoon approved b die

3200c16

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/592844845488275521.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[burnt spear]

I wonder what a 5600x with a stacked l3 cache would do

And 5900x

[hollow thorn]

expensive

[vernal cosmos]

i wonder if i can purchase and unlock the stacked cache dlc for my 3600x

[burnt spear]

If EA owned amd or intel you'd have to unlock cores beyond the first two with $100 per core

[vast meadow]

That was a thing on like a core 2 duo or something

[vernal cosmos]

pentim

[vast meadow]

Yeah that one

[finite elm]

EA bad is an old meme at this point. They are much better than most other AAA publishers tbh.

They only really have Sims with DLC now. Everything else is live service and MTX so you don't have to spend anything like that

[ripe wharf]

hello im back

b550 mobo

with 32g of ram

RGB pls

My vengence doesnt go on docp

fails to start stability issues

[cursive epoch]

corsair moment

[dull flint]

Welcome back lol

[cerulean wadi]

A year from now if I need ram, I'll still hunt down some ballistix.

[vernal cosmos]

Solved ur issue already

Crap ram

Dont ask questions that have been answered

[sharp cairn]

I have Gskill Ripjaws

[grizzled bloom]

If you take a picture of the white label on the sticks or type out the 042/043 code from the label I can tell you how good they are

[grizzled bloom]

That's something but doesn't tell us what die they use

[sharp cairn]

I think it's this pair

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-RipJaws-PC4-28800-CL16-19-19-39-F4-3600C16D-16GVKC/dp/B07X8DVDZZ

[grizzled bloom]

It needs to be the code from the label. They can use different dies on the same model memory, one is good one is barely running at speed

[sharp cairn]

gotcha. mines in the case and it's all tidy'd up. maybe later 😄

using Speccy to see if that can help

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah no big deal, it was more for curiosity

Actually if you load up thaiphoon burner it might tell us

[sharp cairn]

it's open

[grizzled bloom]

At the top hit "read" and pick a stick

[sharp cairn]

8gb Cdie (Alius) 18nm)

[grizzled bloom]

what manufacturer

[sharp cairn]

OnSemi

[grizzled bloom]

Hynix

[sharp cairn]

oh for the DRAM

got it

[grizzled bloom]

So it's CJR

Above average potential kit

[sharp cairn]

"good enough" ? lol

nice good to know.

I get 700 or so USD on SSDI Disability. I paid about $200 bucks over 6-7 months to build the pc

[grizzled bloom]

It should overclock fairly well if you end up getting that itch. It can help with stuttering mostly in games.

[sharp cairn]

it's slightly overclocked, nothing enormous

I was gonna get a b550 ASRock Steel Legend but decided on the ASUS B550 Wifi-F I had a 970 strix now i have a 2060 dual. I just installed an 8TB HDD for Steam Library for Single Player games.

Going to be using the 1TB M.2 NVME for FPS and MMORPG

it's "good enough" for what I do with it. Game, i'm considering streaming and maybe in the future Photoshop

[grizzled bloom]

Seems like you should be able to do 3600 c14 at 1.4-1.45v

[sharp cairn]

Speccy

[sharp cairn]

yeah i got it for being able to upgrade in the future. start low and get better progressively.

[grizzled bloom]

It's a pretty high chance if you get another 16gb kit of the same model it'll be the same die (at least for this model it is)

So you could easily upgrade to 32gb

[sharp cairn]

or a 2x16

and have 32 that way, leaving 2 other slots free. I don't plan on putting 4 sticks in.

I hear just 2 sticks is better. IDK why that is though

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah that would be technically better too. It's the dual rank mostly, but also with 4 sticks it's slightly higher latency between dimms and harder on the memory controller.

[sharp cairn]

gotcha. more whats this part doing and if there are less parts it's less stress?

[grizzled bloom]

But if you wanted to save some money getting another 2x8 kit is an option and should run perfectly fine.

[sharp cairn]

for sure. But Black Friday is my friend lmao

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah essentially, the less it has to address the easier

[sharp cairn]

kind of like MY LIFE. (mostly joking)

it's got a Ryzen Wraith Prism cooler in there, when i stress tested it it got to like 75-80C.

i think its alright.

[grizzled bloom]

Good enough but if you get it cooler it'll boost higher

[sharp cairn]

nice pop out the wraith prism for something similar size but harder working?

I don't like the idea of liquid cooling tbh

[grizzled bloom]

Nah liquid cooling isn't needed usually

What cpu did you have again?

[sharp cairn]

Ryzen 7 5800x 8 cores

lots of airflow in my case though, vent on bottom, top, front. 5 fans inside. i live in So-Cal by the beach

ARCTIC Freezer i35 looks pretty swell.

I should probably take my case off of the floor though (which is why i'm looking for a nice hardwood desk that can fit 2 27" monitors on it.

[grizzled bloom]

I'd go for this one if you were going to swap it https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a

[vast meadow]

Deepcool ak620 instead

[scenic solar]

Does the bus that connects CPU and RAM work @100MHz?

[cerulean wadi]

Fclk is generally 100mhz (intel) yes, that's how it's been for 5+ yrs. Unlike the old fsb, fclk generally can't go over 102.99mhz & it's usually best not messed w/.

[scenic solar]

Ok
But considering bus is 64bit (8bytes) * 100MHz = 0.8GB/s
What does ram transfer rate refer to?

[vast meadow]

fclk is the wrong term btw... its amds infinity fabric... youre thinking of the bus speed but ues

[scenic solar]

Maybe the transfer rate refers to the speed at which the burst buffer can be "filled"
¿

[cerulean wadi]

I was correct w/ what I mentioned. Amd infinite fabric is generally 1600-1800mhz btw

[scenic solar]

Btw, where do you usually find the 165MHz (or something similar)

?

[vast meadow]

165mhz bus is a hefty oc

[cerulean wadi]

Yea that's a lot different than taking an old 333fsb cpu to 450+, lol. Also ram transfer rate just sounds like another way to say bandwidth, but idk. Ram usually is 40+ GB/s depending on it's speed.

[scenic solar]

Ok but what does it refer to? 🤨

[grizzled bloom]

Unless you have a high end board with an external clock generator, then you can hit 130

[cerulean wadi]

Idk what you mean by 165mhz. For intel there is the clock multiplier times bus/fclk = core speed to say simple. At idle the multiplier drops obviously, & it varies by load. At load it goes to w/e the cpu/bios is set for (100mhz bus x 47 ratio = 4.7ghz on some 11gen cpus for example.). For the K models multiplier is unlocked but nowadays that do all that much when stock clock/boosting is as high as it is.

[naive pendant]

dang, i found another extreme9 https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m18587180608/?ref=search_results

only reasonable listing ive seen besides the one I got mine from several months ago

[scenic solar]

What's data rate in RAM?
Data rate ≠ transfer rate

[cerulean wadi]

Data rate basically called clock speed afaik (ddr4-3200, 3600, etc), the pc4-25600 or w/e number is bandwidth/transfer rate I think.

[grizzled bloom]

Close, data rate = 2x clock speed
So the rated speeds (DDR4-3600 for example) are the transfer rate in MegaTransfers per second.
However the actual clock speed is half this. Why is that? DDR means Double Data Rate. It transfers data on the high and the low of each wave.

[cerulean wadi]

Yea that's right, I'm familar with what DDR stands for. We've been using the doubled number too long. dr4-1600 wouldn't sound as impressive😅

[errant grail]

whats the S on intel KS lineup?

[limber dragon]

special

[surreal sleet]

a non tech user sent a pic of their mobo,
apparently repair shop folks said something kept short circuiting even if the part was replaced,
could any1 guess wat might be wrong from this photo ?

[grizzled bloom]

Short circuits aren't typically something you can see like this unless there's visible damage or a bridged connection

[vast meadow]

But I can't see any visible short circuits

Although around the battery looks like it could be the problem... Could be the lighting too tho would need a closer pic around the battery

[surreal sleet]

ooo tyty

they said one day they plug it in and just saw sparks...the end

what exactly can they do at this point ? take it apart and sell the functional parts ?

[burnt spear]

if it shorted, might not be any functional parts

[surreal sleet]

dang so it'd fry all components huh

[burnt spear]

not completely sure

[surreal sleet]

wat would u suggest them do at this point

[burnt spear]

but it's highly possible

[surreal sleet]

the repair shop they took it to, took a whole month and gave up

[burnt spear]

ill let someone else answer that one, i'm not sure where to go from that point

[surreal sleet]

thx still hah

in general tho, would u guys say it is recommended to sell older used laptops by parts instead ?

[limber dragon]

If you need the laptop working, unplug everything nonvital to operation and see if it works

Prob just needs a mobo replacement, and that mobo looks to be under $100

[surreal sleet]

they already took it to a repair shop that took a month and gave up
I just suggest them to try at a different place

and maybe the repair costs might be better off spent towards a new laptop 🙃

[vast meadow]

@exotic siren no ebegging

Read the rules and yes it is

[inner marten]

I'm not sure if any of you could help me, but if so I would really appreciate it. I have an ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming motherboard and am facing a problem with the ROG Strix RBG logo on the upper left-hand side of the motherboard. The light won't turn on no matter what I try. I have seen it light up a couple of times after first purchasing it, but after that, it's been off the whole time. Does anyone know what the fix for this might be? I also should mention that I called ASUS support and they said it's likely the Armor Create app, which they told me to uninstall and reinstall; which I did with no luck.

[errant grail]

isd 35-40c for cpu idle temps normal? with aio?

[cerulean wadi]

Sure, and we don't really care about idle temps if they're under 45ish. Plus, they're often somewhat related to room temp.

[radiant iron]

i have an intel cpu in a ddr3 motherboard does will i need to upgrade it to use ddr4 motherboard? i have no idea about intel

[finite elm]

You'll need a new Motherboard, CPU, and Ram

[radiant iron]

yeah figured thank u

[ripe wharf]

Hey im back again

Ram didnt fix my docp issue

Should i buml up voltage

1.35 is a bit low ngl

[cyan raft]

1.35 is not low at all, voltage shouldn’t be touched

[dull flint]

#CorsairVengeanceLife

[dim cloak]

go ahead enjoy your crumair ram I will sit here with ballistix

[dull flint]

If you can't boot with even two of those Vengeance sticks in @ripe wharf , as Rawr said before, just get them swapped