#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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Pcpp underestimates power usage quite a bit from using listed tdp
Spikes on ampere GPUs for example make you go way over
Mr1111 says my parts are compatible but I think I'll have spacing issues. Meshify 2 case with top mounted AIO. The way I understand it - I'd like to go with a 420 but then I lose front top fan and rear fan and I won't have clearance for my memory (MSI EDGE Z690 with G.skill Trident Z RGB).
Memory should be fine width wise
Ooops .. I meant to say pcpartpicker says my parts are compatible not Mr1111.
lol
So I think I have to go 360mm.
I would say that too until my lil 2060KO, i7 9700k and a gross amount of rgb fans still stayed under 400w
which is really a miracle
and i've been running this pc for like 2 years
It looks like meshify ii can do 420mm top mount without losing top fan
Where do you see that? I'm looking here -- https://support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000174746-meshify-2
Installation Product manual Convert from standard to storage layout Top radiator bracket - how to E-ATX support MultiBracket mounting options Remove or relocate the drive cage Removal of filters Front panel removal Secure glass panel fo...
And I think with the 420mm .. my memory is too tall -- it's 45mm tall so it sounds like it would interfere with the 420.
It doesn't care about memory height, just width
Mainly for stuff like vengeance rgb that's dumb and wide
What am I missing Mr1111 -- the Meshify specs say max motherboard component height of 36 mm with a 420mm aio on top.
Tbh not sure if it'll mess with front top fan though
Ram height tends to be measured from the bottom of the ram stick to the top, but when ram is installed into the motherboard, it's the width you're really measuring
Although, I can't say for sure
Hm, rereading it and looking at the case again, it might actually have to deal with height
Yup. I think I'm limited to the 360mm. I don't suppose I am losing too much.
Would be nice to go 420mm but I doubt I will overclock.
Doesn't matter that much at these kind of sizes
So here's my final build Mr1111 -- much of which you helped with since I have been asking quesitons/learning/obsessing about this for 2 weeks now. i9-12900k, MSI EDGE Z690 DDR4, G.skill Trident RGB 2x32, Evga Supernova G6 1000w, Nvidia 3090 FE, Sabrent 1tb Rocket M.2 SSD, Arctic Liquid Freezer ii 360mm top mounted, Meshify 2 case with 3 Fractal Design 140mm fans in front, and 1 140mm Artic P14 in rear.
If necessary, I bought a 5-pack of Arctic p14 fans so I have extra and can add 2 to the bottom as well.
Sounds fine
Which model number should I trust?
Doesn't the case come with a rear fan though?
I'd trust the stickers on the sticks more, but they're at the same xmp so they're similar models anyways, it could also have a different model number for the kit of 2x16gb sticks instead of the singular sticks
It does. I'm moving it to the front so I have all 3 fractal fans in front and putting the Arctic p14 in the rear
Alright. So I should be fine? The model# sticker on the outside is what's compatible with my motherboard and I just wanted to double check
Yea, qvl doesn't matter much anyways
What does this mean? The G.Skill Trident Z RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the Intel Alder Lake CPU recommended maximum of 1350 mv+5% (1417.5 mv). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1350 mv voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.
You can safely ignore that. If the memory is rated for 1.45v it'll work just fine. That's an old warning based on older models.
Thanks Fal'Cie. After asking tons of questions and obsessing over my build for 2 weeks, all the parts have arrived or are en route.
Hows the Intel Core i5 11th Gen 11400F for gaming? I havent heard good things for th 10th and 11th series processor.
Perfectly fine really
Do I need to "burn in" my new build? Dude at work says yes. But I'm not sure what value this would provide.
2060 will be fine
3000 is a tad low on the speed but shouldn't matter that much
just looking for a pc for my little brother. Thanks for your info. Yeah i thought so too, but its simple to upgrade it tho lol
The thermal paste won't be at max efficiency until you've used it for a while, but that'll happen over time anyway. Besides that, "burning in" doesn't matter.
Cool. If I'm going to upgrade the thermal pads on my 3090, do I need to do that right away? Will the OEM fans become more difficult to remove over time?
Nah that can be done any time. And unless you're mining you probably won't need to change them anyway.
Now I just need to figure out how to wire and setup all the fans.
The really bad quality pads will get a little greasy over time
Fan splitters are your friends
Should be easy to clean off with a little rubbing alcohol or is that a no-no?
Fan splitters?
Isopropyl alcohol is preferred, high % like 99
You don't need a fan hub usually, with low power fans like p12 you can run several from a single header
The splitter lets you do that
My case has a fan hub I think -- Meshify 2
That'll help with cable management then
Has 3 fractal design 140s (non RGB) and I also picked up a 5 pack of Artic 140s (non RGB) and then I have the 3x120 fans from my Arctic 360 aio (a-rgb)
You could run all those on 2 headers if you had to
I need to figure all that out -- like where does the pump wire to and where do the fans wire to, etc to optimize the cooling/noise and figure out the rgb control for the 360. None of this stuff existed when I build my last computer 20+ years ago.
There's usually a pump header, and the aio fans go on the cpu fan header. The other fans can use any other available header.
the case fans get set to DC in the bios and everything else (arctic p14s and aio fans) get set to pwm?
If it's 3 pins, dc
4 pins are pwm
Someones getting lucky on hardwareswap. 😂 gonna sell them a 3900x for 200$ cause I just wanna get rid of it at this point.
ayo
suddenly im on hws again
Lol its not youuu
I was hitting 100% with 5.2ghz overclock on an 8600k, it's why I upgraded.
I haven’t been overclocking and it’s only when I play games my cpu has been spiking wasn’t sure if it was normal
Or if it was good
Yeah the 8600k/9600k are under threaded for modern games
Ahh
Do yo know anything about the asus prime z390 a
Anyway I’ve noticed a red light has turned on on the mobo that I’ve never seen and only see it when the pc is shut down
Debug lights tends to turn on when powered on and powered off, as long as it posts it's fine
How much of a bottleneck would a 3050 give a 12400? lol
😂
So I should just get the 11400 even though it'd only be like 50$ more for the 12400?
A 12100 beats the 10/11400 in most games
On a clean test bench, yes, in real life, the 6 core cpu would still be a better option
saw a H670-ITX I could get for 183$(no tax) which is why I started considering it lol
then a 12400 for 169$
Ooof
12700 for $330 is also a great deal
Double the cores of the 12400
Although the 12700 and 12700f price has been going up and down a lot
eh, its a console build. I don't care for getting more than 6 cores as anything more is then just increasing the bottleneck
Ah I get you
for general purpose I think 12700 (non k) is great value
better than 12600k
you need to wait for the 5000 series threadripper tbh
only thing that has enough perf for you
yoo... i had to reset cmos. when i turned my pc back on. went into bios it was good for a minute. then my pc restarting itself. but couldnt see my screen.
[8:21 PM]
just black.
@burnt spear
Why did it restart itself?
@half lava
its now just sitting black screen
cant get into bios
even after restarting pc.
pc is on sitting there
Try reseating ram
tried that. also the keyboard and mouse
arent on
as well as the monitor
@burnt spear
Mmm
Full system specs? New or old build?
Odd
It’s an older build then? Why did you have to reset cmos?
its working. faulty ram stick
eh, probably MC huh. For everyone else, at least there's the 12700F for $330.
I wish Microcenter had an B560 Itx board in stock locally.
If I got both CPU and Motherboard I could save 20$ 😦 but they only have a Z490I and its pretty pricey
I wish MC would actually online/mail certain items, perhaps things that aren't selling well in-store.
Anyway I can check if a z690 dark hero is faulty prior to ordering one 🤔
why do you need a dark hero in the first place
no one "needs" a dark hero. its all about passion
forks probably needs a dark hero
dark hero is still way overkill tbh
but if you have to buy it then no
no way to check
Yeah MC
If I chose, that's what I'd go for, since as of now i don't have any plans to oc and don't need an igpu
I got a z490 Aorus Elite mobo in a bundle with a gpu. What would be the best way to sell it?
Ebay, Facebook marketplace, r/hardwareswap subbredit
ok thx
Anyone know the best budget motherboard ram and cpu
i just need to get rid of this am3 motherboard and actually upgrade
What's your budget
for everything in total im probably looking to spend around 300 if thats even possible
right now my fx 8350 bottlenecks on siege and I can barely keep a stable 80 fps
with all low settings
What GPU do you have rn?
if you can increase budget a little bit id say 12400f and b660 prime
oh wait
is that including ram?
I have a 1660
Yea I need ram too
DDR4 is cheap and you can get a decent used kit for $40 easy
suggestions on a lpx 32gb white kit of ram?
pcp shows the only one being corsair
nvm
found a crucial kit
There's also a hyperx kit that's low profile
Not lpx, but great stuff https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821441?quicklink=true
What’s your GPU usage like?
Getting this ram out is annoying
Top locks are blocked by a fan, bottom are blocked by gpu
The gpu usage is normal its just that whatever game I play no matter if its a really easy game to run or not my cpu will always get bottlenecked
Bro
@mild jackal how am I supposed to get this ram out
The bottom locks refuse to move
Even on the empty slots
They might not move
Sometimes, one side doesn't have locks
And im pretty sure I see a crease where they're supposed to fold out
Do I just pull?
On the ram that is
See if it'll come out if you just lightly pull on the side whose lock has opened
It's already out on the top side
Oh I see
Got it
Ty
And how do I know which way it should go in?
Push it in with a bit of force, if it doesn't click try the other way?
Look at the notch
And it should click right?
Ok so
Ram is in
Now there's no display on boot, cpu and ram lights are on
@mild jackal
Does it just take a min or did I mess smthn up
Nvm found the issue
And now one of my monitors won't won't on
Not the cord
Switched two of the cords
Got it again, partially came unplugged from monitor
Normal as in 100%?
My brain ain't working tn
Yall think this will work?
Xmp is 3200c16
Should I change voltage?
@vast meadow same kit of ram you have
Bumped it to 1.45v
Rev e is perfectly safe at 1.5v so yeah 1.45 should do
Booted into windows
Was at 2667mhz
You're on amd? Try these primaries
Gonna boot at xmp first
Booted at 3200 with regular xmp
Proc odt to 40 ohms
The timing i have at 19, is 18 at xmp, try it at 19 will probs boot
Np
the new windows 11 beta completely fixed the windows 11 ecore bug
never seems to boot into ecore only mode now
which is great
Hi y'all, I have a quick question.
Will a Ryzen 9 5900x bottleneck a RTX 3060 ti?
no, but if you dont already have a motherboard 12700k is a better buy
5900x good enough for a 3090 ti, and more (though we dont actually have perf of a 3090 ti yet, i can say that confidently)
5600x enough for a 3090 at 1440p lol
Enable pbo and run some b-die at 3800c14, ez
Reason: Mass mention
Nope

uhh
what
bruh
casual
Mhm

lmao
gg
Wow
What a loser
wow
what the HECK
why ping me tho xd?
Welp
wtf
Most active this chat has been in 6 months
Why am i getting pinged
incredible
Wtf
people are gonna rush here

🗿🗿🗿

darn
ok enough. no need to respond

ban
I assume they went straight down the names XD since i was pinged even
No reason to
cause we love you
well
Enough
that was short lived then
Channel dies
Good
imma skeet outta here
interesting channel for people to spam ping, usually it's like in general or smth
its taken cared of, people. move along
Same
do i even want to know why that unfortunate soul was randomly pinging
lol
Excited to go to Microcenter this weekend

nothing to see here...
Lmao
Gonna get me a 12900k to go with my 3050
whats with the pings?
why was I pinged like 7 times
wtf
Robux scammer, nothing to see here
was it a @ everyone?
[insert generic ping response anger comment]
just a sussy baka
@gilded rapids wtf happened
I'd have fallen for a robux scam

definitely wasn't robux
Some people cry out for attention in strange ways..
Yes. The mass mention has an obvious scam link.
xD
WHOMST HAS SUMMONED THE ALL MIGHTY TULIP
i blame jp he made invite here
When you think about it. Robux was kinda the first crypto currency
no
nah
are you telling me my 5000$ worth of robux is worthless?
Take it to general people
Idk
Theo needs to cry out for more attention, fix this please
bro
Why did a scammer have access to Ping Perms
Did the new admins break something
WHY :(
No lmao, it was a tool that mentions each person
flormbo no like 6 pongs
You can't prevent people from pinging each person other than using a bot to just ban them right away after there is a mass mention
nah, just one of those copy paste github bots to ping as many users as they could starting from the hoisted roles
is there a way to kneecap MS teams so it isnt using 45% of my cpu?
Windows 11?
10
ah, gamer ping
Is that when you're using it?
yeah
Turn down your video quality settings, or tell it to encode using gpu
Not yet it's not
There's still not enough new, useful features and too many things are broken
10 is supported another 5 years
yeah, one of the games i play reports driver issues on win11
not sure if it's legit or not
There was an issue with the task scheduler and e-cores tripping anti-cheat software, especially denuvo
ah
i dont think it wouldve been that but thats understandable
oh no
class started 10 mins ago
Oops
💀
Does anyone know what B660 boards do BCLK OC? Seems like only ones I could find were DDR5 Strix
Wondering if anyone is looking into it more, or if it's just being left at "go buy the ddr5 strix" or smth
@mild jackal Hi

Did my discord glitch or something, I just got pinged 8 times from this channel lmao
someone really needed you and you weren't here
JK there was an Autoping bot
Mostly ones with an external clock generator as far as I can tell. Der8auer is making a list.
Yeah was wondering if there were any sources other then Der8auer cuz his list is fairly small due to only being one dude
He's building it based on other people telling him which ones work too
With pics of course
Anywhere to see the WIP list? Looked around a tiny bit and couldnt find much
Apart from that one vid he did
Why was I pinged 6 times here?
bobux scammer
fReE rObUx 
I’m just curious, how good are Apple processors computer to intel and ryzen
the answer is yes.
my 2nd x79 board arrives today 
But no
but no what
regular m1 i think is equal to a 10700k, but theres a lot of stuff you can do on a windows pc that you cant on a macbook
theres a bunch of m1 chips
and theres a bunch of intel and amd chips
and they cant really be compared tbh
they are 2 different architectures
different os
But is it possible to get an m1 that runs windows
at that point just make a 12600k build
Even if it is it would suck ass because arm for Windows bad
Oh I have a desktop right now
I’m just curious
Seems sus
shampoo the best thermal paste confirmed
I just upgrade my motherboard cpu and ram, and now my pc will now turn on
I have 2 ideas that I wouldn’t know how to fix atm
If anyone is willing to help lmk
I have 16gb of ram memory and it says only 10.5 available should it be that
well update bios it booting now 🙂
Can I use this ram https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331353?Item=N82E16820331353 with HP TG01-1022?
I wish I could order a custom motherboard
Anyone selling a Ryzen 7 5800x
we don't sell or trade here
Could try r/hardwareswap on reddit.
Technically yes, it'll work. It just might not run full speed on your H470 chipset board.
the 15W TDP?
its a drop of at the very least 80 watts
Huge size difference
Let's say I have 16 gb in my pc right now, I have 2 slots left
If I bought 2 individual sticks of 16 and slot them in, would it work?
Bringing my total to 48
it could work
but it also might not
would it be better to just get 2 more sticks of the same ram and have 32?
get a kit
cause im sure 32 is enough just wondering if i could theoretically
dont get 2 seperate
i already have 2 sticks so could I not just buy 2 of the same sticks?
you could
and
it could work
but it also might not
it could work to begin with and corrupt windows to the point of no booting
it is not the manufacturer of the stick and the speed that decides compatability
its the little black chips on the ram itself that affect it
and those can be different for even the same model of ram
same size, same speed
i think 32 fine but bettter off with 64 if your buy ram buy iit in pair our might run in issue
Ignore bunny
Will it boot up, pretty dam likely, will it be stable is the question
And that is a solid maybe
dO ME A favor
I’m confused
So I have an ASRock B450 Pro4 motherboard. And I see that it has 2 m.2 slots. I already have an NVMe SSD In the top slot (which is PCIe Gen 3 x4) and the other slot is open (1 M.2 [PCIe Gen3 x2 & SATA3])
Ive already tested another NVMe drive in the second slot, but It didn’t work. I’m trying to get another storage module installed in there but don’t know the specific kind to get any help?
Are you using a SATA device? M.2 2 shares lanes with SATA3_3 and SATA3_4. If any are in use the others are disabled.
@ornate gust
No I don’t think so, the only thing storage wise is my NVMe drive
@half lava
Could be a bad drive then. Have you tried the boot drive in the other slot to verify with a known working drive?
I have not, although I am worried that it might not work.
If it doesn’t you can just switch it back. Moving an m.2 is pretty easy
That escalated quickly
WhT the heck did I miss haha
Western Digital 1TB WD Blue 3D NAND Internal PC SSD - SATA III 6 Gb/s, M.2 2280, Up to 560 MB/s - WDS100T2B0B https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073SB2MXT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_800S9BZ5VKKAT3051WK9
That’s overpriced and only SSD 560MB/s
Get a MP33 from Teamgroup at a minimum
Well I was gonna say that I have Amazon credit lmao
Are you needing to buy a 1TB m.2?
That’s what I’m planning
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCWK3t best value atm
That drive isn't NVMe, it's sata, key b+m, sometimes if there's a NVMe drive in slot 1, it won't support a sata m.2 in slot 2
Yeah I got it figured out, thanks for your input though!
that right on that mine only has one working sata port when plug in ssd in m.2 slot with the gigabyte z370p d3
He didn’t initialize it in windows. His bios picked it up and we got it sorted.
that good
i need help
my pc stays at the mobo boot logo
it says media consult ig something
it doesnt boot into windows
only boots when i restart it
dose it spin our hang if it not spining try updateing bios
was it working fine be for our is this anew pc build
can you boot in to the bios
it alr had a win fresh install when i got it
yes i can
i set my ssd into the 1 boot option
dose it hang if you try loading windows install disk
wym by hang
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i saw this vid
check bios see if thear a update
boots
where i dont think so anyways
i saw a vid from the same guy with an asus board
what mother bord do you have
make a vid of it trying to load windows
my bios look like these
it loads it normaly
might be a bad install
it just wait
what you think can you help him
sure 1 min
it not going be the same
try this
Boot Disk is a complete IT Technician's or IT Consultant's data recovery package that includes powerful file recovery, data imaging, and secure data erasing set of software tools and utilities
be for i update bios on mine even this tool hang
put that ona usb stick and see if it it load
if it dose not boot with that then it bios
you have spaire usb drive
a realtek pcie thing
no
i can boot into my pc
get one
but sometimes it doesnt
My pc works normaly
Yea it just does this
but
after i restart
works fine
its like
i reinstall windows if i was you
it tries to boot into something firdt time?
and it fixes?
bcs i restart
its not a hugr problem for me anyways but i was freaking out bcs yeah
i had some truble with my pc too be for replace the bord
i do not think it same issue
no my pc works perfectly fine
mine end up being bent pins
but sometimes it gets stuck on the mobo thing
it wood run for 7 min then shut off for no reson
nono mine never did that
ye
the only time my pc crashed was when i forgot to turn town val settings and i put hyper thread on lol😹😹😹😹
bad luck
my pc became an airplane
hagagah
either way my pc works fine when im in
it just doesnt boot sometimes
but after restart it does
if you can reinstall windows
yk mobo boot screens?
like the giga byte one?
it stays on that
but it works fine when i re open pc
and windows spins etc
and i get in under 10 seconds
but if it doing this on mother bord flash screen might be issue with the bord
no it says something like
Media Consult Ag
it does the thing in the vid i sent
wait hold on
that cable doesnt look in place
could that be ir
@hearty gust
may be
you mean the ssd
or turn off the surge protectur psu
switch
nono
i turn it off the pc so i open
the side panel
i mean get accses power off pc so i dont die
lop
lol
god my gpu so dirty
if that dose not fix it send it back for rma
you have it esy
when mine broke i had to replace mother bord twice
ok thank
for ur time
ok now
i replaced the
swotch
sata
and i try
first time on
it boots
good sign
ima run test number 2
and do a 3 one
i dont think its fixed
omg
2 time boots
no way
3 and last test
@hearty gust
didnt get fixed
rip
stuck on this
another good idea is to run this and test teh ram https://www.memtest86.com/
it says pres f2 or del to dios
bios
see now i restart and boom
anyways ill go slerp
hope you get it fix
ty and ill come back when an actuall actuall annoyin thing happens💀
its ok if it works fine
anyways
i just dont want it to crash while on games
or it being slow
but gn
sleep well and ty
Huh
Idk they just pinged me
ah
Input on 10-11600K + $25 to have a 10700F ? (knowing the non-K and 10gen quirks). 10gen on 5xx chipsets means losing the top m.2 slot, but no biggie I'd say. 2 extra cores seems worth it.
@cerulean wadi You have any of those CPU's or not?
Yes, have the 11600K and a z590 mobo (no ram currently). Thought maybe using 10/11 gen for 1+ years at this point in time, i7 would be smarter/better. 
I do agree with the same aspect. I have a 10900K instead the 11900K or 11700K. just loose is the first M.2 slot. The I7 has more cores and threads. Just a bit slower
Cool. Yea the i7 stock turbo closes the gap on single core performance anyways, and bet I could adjust those settings up a tad if I wanted. Thnx. I'll do the 10700F tonight then return the other on Monday. Now I'm just debating getting the $100 kit of Oloy ram. Kicking myself for missing the ballistix at $90.
uff
well best of luck with the purchase, always sales on stuff
specially ddr4 and such
indeed
I paid for 32gb for $180 G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB 3200Mhz cl15
I'm too frugal sometimes. What I resold was a $130 kit of 4000c18 G.skill. the black version of the pic I just posted was $90 for a few days a while back, lol.
will this m.2 work with out power for wifi and blue tooth
Only from the pcie slot
Yes
11600=10700
so that card will give it power over pcie right trying free up a slot for cap card
6c12T vs 8c16T
faster 6c12t vs slower 8c16t to be fair
try moveing gpu still only one sata port working on my GIGABYTE Z370P D3 remove m.2 and all sata works
Yes that card draws the power from the pcie slot but a capture card uses pcie iirc so how would that free up a slot?
oh case the slot i whant to use has no slot acces so i whant to move wifi to that slot
so i have other slot free
Oh alright
yea
i link the item 1sec
this
Alright cool
Do you guys and gals know of any mini it-x motherboards compatible with a Ryzen 5 5600G?
any b550 itx should work, along with just about any x570 itx with a display out
would be safe to assume b450 itx would do too
It says this tho
its fine, just means you have to update the bios if the motherboard you get has an old bios on it
How do you do that?
if you do have to do it, then youd just have to go to the mobo's product page and then find their bios updates and get the latest one or most stable one and put on a usb and then plug it into the mobo's bios usb port if it has one
if you have no way of accessing it other than your phone then oof but should be easy to do
theres also tutorials online if you need further instructions or help
with flashback you don't
so if I'm on 1.60, ASRock b450m pro4 with a r5 2600 rn
do I update straight to the latest bios before changing to 5600x
or in increments
Usually can do the latest, but check the mobo bios page 1st. Some say to go to 1 that's a certain age. At most would be 2 flashes I figure
10th gen cores vs 11th gen cores
11600k slightly better in single core slightly worse in mc
Imo not worth the extra 25$ or whatever it was, nothing ocing wouldn't cover
Yep, exactly. Cpu change to w/e. Might do the budget pick 11400(F) actually for a solid $70-80 savings.
hi
how to enable xmp on x570e
Omg now i got issue with head phone rip
Got this stqngw hissing sound and that all i get crap
It may be called DOCP
Anyway when you first turn on your computer follow whatever your MB's prompt to get into bios. Then in the memory or overlooking tab look for XMP or DOCP and you should be able to select your kit's profile.
thanks
im real piss right now
you might wanna check your spelling/grammar there
lol
any good ram ideas, looking for like 32gb
What budget? Good kits of 32gb go for around $150-175 and the ultra budget ones go as low as $100 or less
I can probably do around $150
Recently saw the 3200c16 ballistix for $115ish, that's not too bad. If you want to deal with OCing/tuning ram.
Can u send link
This would be good with Intel
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk
Yep, that's pretty good too.
$119 for Crucial, a full $20-30 more than it was a while ago https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TSLDF2
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Those both don't seem bad at all
Tbh I had that specific G.Skill then resold it. No hurry again since I just dropped the 11600K at ups. (Going 8core, or 1x400)
Aight thanks
This is only good if they're actually gonna oc it
I don't bother with overclocking
Damn how is that more expensive then the 4000 mhz that fal sent me
Tighter timings
Oh
But yeah if you're on intel the 4000 kit is a nice budget option
1.4v vs 1.35 is an extra thing I notice, but doubt it really matters. Only sold the G.Skill because I had my 11gen combo for sale. Is the gear 1 vs 2 ram stuff just on 500 series mobos and/or 11gen cpu?
G1/g2 is an everything thing
Just thinking about 12 gen intel
How long do you think it'll last from now
Like if u were to use it
Depends on your use case
And what your expectations are
Like
Gaming
I don't do other things
Don't stress test
Or do any cad stuff
Or whatever
12600k would last most people 5 years before they wanna upgrade probs
Okay but what if u couldn't upgrade
Do you think it'll still be good in 10 years or so
No cpu will be good in 10 years, usable, sure
People still game on the 4770k and that's 8 years old
Thats what I'm saying
I was using a 2nd gen i7 for a while
I could play games just fine
Games tend to use the gpu more than the cpu
Makes sense
So I'm not wondering if it will be considered "good"
But more like
Usable like u said
Totally usable
Like no lag on newer games
Uhh lag is the internet connection but you should be fine, games usually get more gpu intensive rather than cpu
Most games in cpu reviews are still not tons faster with 8core cpus vs 6core models (10/11gen). 8+ cores is a safe bet nowadays though for sure, just for future stuff or multitasking. How's this for a laugh. Though I'd give my current soon to be spare pc a thread boost for "cheap".
Imagine
Hey, it blows away my previous E8400 (2c2T). Before my big upgrade, I'm gonna repaste the 3550 & figure maybe spend $40ish on an 8thread version to try instead.
I have such regret now that I got the 11 series
8 months in and Intel was like nope, discontinuing z590 boards
That's just what intel does. 2 years per socket if you're lucky. 1 year per chipset.
Nice. Xeons B)
What board are you using?
This great "budget" pick, probably less than $130 when purchased instead of $160ish msrp. My cpu actually isn't too bad. Hardest time it has is the big open world stuff of Apex Legends (cpu related settings mostly Low) & would rather not be at 90-99% usage while playing that, haha(I'm sure my "1%" fps lows are pretty bad. Really curious how much vs 8MB cache & HyperThreading would help. I quick checked Ebay for other xeons but they're $60+
I really like that color scheme
Reminds me of my x99 extreme6
@cerulean wadi Have you considered going Chinese x79/x99 and getting a xeon to match? Very good value for the performance imo
idk, $40 alone is cheap enough to try
I keep seeing the threadripper 1900x cpu cheap on amazon?
any suggestions on motherboards?
Because it's old.. no point tho the board's are still expensive
Also the cores are supppperr slow
K80?
a tesla card
But quad channel memory, Pato
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JCdvKp
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-1700-SS2-Mounting-Coolers-Platform/dp/B09LTQYNSL
Would be better off
Pato, do you think a H510 board would be fine for my console build? Or should I wait for the b560 to be back in stock? 40$ difference
For the memes https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-TR-1900X-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12400F/m340638vs4121
H510 is single channel and no overclocking memory right? If you've got a low end cpu it would be fine
11400+3050. It says it can have 3200mhz memory.
Probably ok but will limit the 11400 in some things
H510 will limit mem to 2666mhz
Dual channel i believe, they originally said h610 would be single but they meant 1dpc and later corrected it
Ah that's right. H510 is also 1dpc
Why do they lie and say 3200mhz then D:
It supports 3200 with 11th gen processors
So i should be fine with with an 11400 :p
Seems that way
Ikr
There's literally no reason for them to lock it at all except for artificial market segmentation anyway
Would my 3600mhz ram run 3200mhz fine with xmp? Or would it be a slight struggle
Shouldn't be an issue
Why do you need to underclock
H510 only supports up to 3200mhz.
The ram I have is 3600mhz.

It'll clock to the lower speed, but thats if they're compatible
If they're not, windows could corrupt or it could straight up just not boot
oof
My windows corrupted mixing two incompatible ram kits
does linux have that issue
Had to fully wipe both my drivers
I'd assume so, maybe it wouldn't corrupt but idk
Itd still cause issues
if it fits it werks?
sounds fun
thanks for letting me know
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See what happens when you mix RAM DIMMS from different manufacturers!
Buy AMD...
If they're the same, they're compatible
Depending on the brand you might be able to tell from the white sticker on the sticks

also I hope MSI aren't too fussy with RMAs
they told me to after much troubleshooting so if they get upset that it's missing the CMOS battery or something I'm gonna be ticked
and/or refuse to refund instead of replace
I somehow bought 2 bad MSI boards in a row
lol
Is it worth it to switch to DDR5?
No
DDR5 is stupid expensive and DDR4 is still fast enough to do what you want quickly
Fast ddr4 is actually still better in most cases
Gotta wait for DDR5 to git gud
Who would buy this over a 12100 https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/sos1b5/cpu_boxed_intel_pentium_gold_g7400_2c4t_37ghz/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
At least it has HT. For someone on an extreme budget, but I'd do w/e I could to scrounge up an extra $40ish. The G7400 is actually pretty darn good for 1080p gaming. Also as cheapo server or certain other tasks, still a huge upgrade from most older 2 & 4 core cpus, especially regarding wattage & perf per watt
2 core tho 
If you're pairing it with a gpu just get a 12100f for 10$ more
Intel should make a 4-6 e core cpu
Would be great for sff builds
As in just e cores
Low tdp and low temps
HT makes it act like a 4c of older cpus haha. 12100f also isn't only $10 more, & stock varies big time right now. Idk, the e cores are much weaker. They should though. Bet they'll eventually have the Ecore only cpus
Wait one sec I think I forgot the price of what I linked lmao
But the 12100f is 97$
No yeah its $10 more
Not in stock rn but it's been in stock fairly often for 97
I keep seeing $120ish lately, so eh. Don't act like I'm not agreeing though. :kekw:
Profit
I want to see Pcore only 8core for cheaper, lol (but everything above 12400 has Ecores). Microcenter is too far. At least the 12100 & 12400 are so 
That'd be nice too
Also a 12100 with 2 e cores
If they gave the 12100 2 e cores it'd be great
4 cores limits it
Would prolly beat an 11400
Might fall a bit short of 5600x, but then people wouldn't have incentive to buy 12400 unless they gave that two e cores too
Ecores would jack up their price a bit & sort of require Win11. Yep, it's funny how no Ecores is how 11600 or 11700 actually beats even the 12400 in certain tasks, but obviously not most games. 13gen & possible future 12gen cpus will be interesting.
If I were to build rn, I'd go 12400f tbh
I still prefer w10, and the e cores don't have "proper" support, or atleast I don't consider them to with how buggy they are
12600k would be nice too, but 210$ mobo hurts on top of the 300$
Instead of 330$ for both cpu and mobo
Same, or 12600k/12700(F/K) if somehow got MC pricing. Indeed the Ecores don't help too much for gaming I think. I'll try a 4c8T xeon for a bit & watch as more B660 or cheaper z690 mobos appear. Apex Legends is the only game I have that makes cpu go 95-100% a lot, lol. For $40 thought I'd see if extra 4 threads helps any, but idk for sure.
I dont plan on upgrading soon unless i get an msrp 3080
And if I do it'd be a 5600x, since I already have a b550
Wouldn't bother with a 5800x, since I don't feel like getting an aio
And it'd be a pain, since my mobo is sff
I'm really confused on whether apex is CPU or GPU intensive
Idk, and my 2nd-best 2016ish GPU is for sure picking up the slack a lot. All GPU related stuff is almost maxed out and cpu related stuff is on low. I easily get 120-150 FPS (personal frame cap, 60Hz display also) but cpu is literally 99% usage. Huge map is a part of it I figure. Well, it's a 10 yr old quad core that doesn't even have Hyperthreading. All other games I have, cpu related settings can be much higher, even Doom Eternal.
12600 has no e cores
Yep, those 12500 & 12600-nonK are pretty rare.
People with negative 1 brain cell?
you called?
The man for the job
hi ive got an urgent question for bios update
im on version 1.60 currently so i need to update to 2.00 first
ive installed the drivers for that version
do i have to install the drivers to 3.10 after 2.00?
or can i just update straight to the 5600x supported bios
Drivers aren't bios specific
so ill have to download both drivers?
Just do whatever it tells you to
If it says update drivers before bios flash I'd do it
im really confused on the bios page itself
so i need version 4.60 for 5000 series support
currently on 1.60
i need to go to 2.00 first before going to 4.60 straight?
after 2.0?
Actually just do this one this is the latest
https://download.asrock.com/Drivers/AMD/AllIn1/AllIn1(v18.50.16.01_WHQL).zip
Before
ive already downloaded the first one
so i just download the latest one again before updating to 2.0
?
Yeah saves you updating again later before the other bios's
But you can do this after if you have this one done already
im already installing the newer one now
sorry but what's the answer for this
Yeah looks like you can
I updated to 5.30
it says "Programming success. Press Enter to reboot system"
but my keyboard and mouse don't seem to work
what do I do
is it safe to power down and on again?
@vast meadow sorry for the ping but I need an answer
wtf nvm... my mouse worked all of a sudden...
I have a wi-fi dongle that does the work with no problems, is a mobo with wi-fi better than the dongle?
Depends on the comparison. Modern mobos with the Intel AX210 or similar chip are really good & no doubt way better than many usb adapters. Noticing much of an upgrade is also a variable. W/o builtin wifi, there's tons of pcie adapters with more than 1 antenna to use that should outclass a normal usb model.
I prefer the idea of having an add-in-card for WiFi rather than USB or integrated, but there's a case to be made for either
If what you have works for you then perfect
The WiFi dongles I've had that actually worked did the job just fine, and I hope they continue to
did u update in bios or in windows
in bios
for some reason after it finished my kb and mouse weren't working
I waited for a bit and it somehow worked
thank god
I'm using a zen cpu actually, I'm looking to upgrade my mobo to ATX , my case to an actual case with cable management space (full tower if Gog permits), more ram and more storage in the next 6 months, some of the current wi-fi boards are about 10-20 usd more expensive than the non Wi-Fi counterparts, or do they have any other cool features like better quality capacitors, etc?
Honestly no point getting a new motherboard without a new cpu
The problem is that my current video card is eating up the space for 2 sata ports xD and i hate using microATX because is so small and my hands are kinda stupid
I mean if you remove the gpu you should be able to fit the cable in
I mean, the gpu goes over the sata port and completely hides it... The other 2 almost touch the fan but a little zip tie made it work with no fan scraping
Yeah that's what i figured, usually there's still space between it and gpu tho
The two things that i do want to change is the case and the storage, or upgrade would be the correct word.
Tried it, my other 512 gb hdd is used as external because i couldn't keep it without the GPU almost tearing the PCIe port
Ahh rip
Yep, that's why i want a bigger mobo xD
My ryzen 5 5600x is cool for my current cpu, don't see myself buying a new one in less than 5 years
N should be fine if you just updated bios, Y if you swapped CPU
now it's going past the ASRock screen and not booting to windows
Enter bios when booting up and check boot priority
yeah it's my ssd
is there a new error message? or is the screen just blank?
But you can get into bios right?
yes
Uhmm can you send a screenshot of your boot priorities in bios?
Can you hit enter to show your options
In my experience it should say ssd then windows boot or something after it/before it
Hmm, was it always like that?
clear cmos?
I changed xmp to 3000mhz instead of 3200mhz
and it booted?
which is weird because I updated bios and it allowed me to boot 3200mhz earlier with my Ryzen 5 2600
am I supposed to clear CMOS after changing the cpu?
What is your new cpu?
Shouldn't need to but if it doesn't work no harm
is there anything specific to do after changing CPU?
Well i would enable precision boost overdrive
how do i do so


