#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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hollow thorn
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We'll see how the situation evolves

frosty bronze
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and pcpp helped me make sure I could run my pc

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under the recommended wattage

hollow thorn
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Pcpp underestimates power usage quite a bit from using listed tdp

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Spikes on ampere GPUs for example make you go way over

honest rock
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Mr1111 says my parts are compatible but I think I'll have spacing issues. Meshify 2 case with top mounted AIO. The way I understand it - I'd like to go with a 420 but then I lose front top fan and rear fan and I won't have clearance for my memory (MSI EDGE Z690 with G.skill Trident Z RGB).

hollow thorn
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Memory should be fine width wise

honest rock
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Ooops .. I meant to say pcpartpicker says my parts are compatible not Mr1111.

frosty bronze
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lol

honest rock
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So I think I have to go 360mm.

frosty bronze
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I would say that too until my lil 2060KO, i7 9700k and a gross amount of rgb fans still stayed under 400w

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which is really a miracle

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and i've been running this pc for like 2 years

hollow thorn
honest rock
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And I think with the 420mm .. my memory is too tall -- it's 45mm tall so it sounds like it would interfere with the 420.

hollow thorn
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Mainly for stuff like vengeance rgb that's dumb and wide

honest rock
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What am I missing Mr1111 -- the Meshify specs say max motherboard component height of 36 mm with a 420mm aio on top.

hollow thorn
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Tbh not sure if it'll mess with front top fan though

hollow thorn
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Although, I can't say for sure

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Hm, rereading it and looking at the case again, it might actually have to deal with height

honest rock
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Yup. I think I'm limited to the 360mm. I don't suppose I am losing too much.

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Would be nice to go 420mm but I doubt I will overclock.

hollow thorn
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Doesn't matter that much at these kind of sizes

honest rock
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So here's my final build Mr1111 -- much of which you helped with since I have been asking quesitons/learning/obsessing about this for 2 weeks now. i9-12900k, MSI EDGE Z690 DDR4, G.skill Trident RGB 2x32, Evga Supernova G6 1000w, Nvidia 3090 FE, Sabrent 1tb Rocket M.2 SSD, Arctic Liquid Freezer ii 360mm top mounted, Meshify 2 case with 3 Fractal Design 140mm fans in front, and 1 140mm Artic P14 in rear.

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If necessary, I bought a 5-pack of Arctic p14 fans so I have extra and can add 2 to the bottom as well.

hollow thorn
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Sounds fine

granite meadow
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Which model number should I trust?

hollow thorn
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Doesn't the case come with a rear fan though?

hollow thorn
# granite meadow Which model number should I trust?

I'd trust the stickers on the sticks more, but they're at the same xmp so they're similar models anyways, it could also have a different model number for the kit of 2x16gb sticks instead of the singular sticks

honest rock
granite meadow
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Alright. So I should be fine? The model# sticker on the outside is what's compatible with my motherboard and I just wanted to double check

hollow thorn
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Yea, qvl doesn't matter much anyways

honest rock
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What does this mean? The G.Skill Trident Z RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the Intel Alder Lake CPU recommended maximum of 1350 mv+5% (1417.5 mv). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1350 mv voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.

grizzled bloom
honest rock
wispy knoll
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Hows the Intel Core i5 11th Gen 11400F for gaming? I havent heard good things for th 10th and 11th series processor.

grizzled bloom
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11400 is great for gaming

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You could use a 3090 with it

wispy knoll
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ok, would it be good with a 2060

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and 16gbs of ddr4 at 3000mhz

dull flint
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Perfectly fine really

honest rock
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Do I need to "burn in" my new build? Dude at work says yes. But I'm not sure what value this would provide.

grizzled bloom
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2060 will be fine
3000 is a tad low on the speed but shouldn't matter that much

wispy knoll
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just looking for a pc for my little brother. Thanks for your info. Yeah i thought so too, but its simple to upgrade it tho lol

grizzled bloom
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True. And pretty cheap to upgrade.

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You can get a used 16gb kit for $50

wispy knoll
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yeah lol

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when ram is the only cheap part

grizzled bloom
honest rock
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Cool. If I'm going to upgrade the thermal pads on my 3090, do I need to do that right away? Will the OEM fans become more difficult to remove over time?

grizzled bloom
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Nah that can be done any time. And unless you're mining you probably won't need to change them anyway.

honest rock
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Now I just need to figure out how to wire and setup all the fans.

grizzled bloom
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The really bad quality pads will get a little greasy over time

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Fan splitters are your friends

honest rock
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Should be easy to clean off with a little rubbing alcohol or is that a no-no?

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Fan splitters?

grizzled bloom
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Isopropyl alcohol is preferred, high % like 99

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You don't need a fan hub usually, with low power fans like p12 you can run several from a single header

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The splitter lets you do that

honest rock
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My case has a fan hub I think -- Meshify 2

grizzled bloom
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That'll help with cable management then

honest rock
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Has 3 fractal design 140s (non RGB) and I also picked up a 5 pack of Artic 140s (non RGB) and then I have the 3x120 fans from my Arctic 360 aio (a-rgb)

grizzled bloom
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You could run all those on 2 headers if you had to

honest rock
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I need to figure all that out -- like where does the pump wire to and where do the fans wire to, etc to optimize the cooling/noise and figure out the rgb control for the 360. None of this stuff existed when I build my last computer 20+ years ago.

grizzled bloom
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There's usually a pump header, and the aio fans go on the cpu fan header. The other fans can use any other available header.

honest rock
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the case fans get set to DC in the bios and everything else (arctic p14s and aio fans) get set to pwm?

grizzled bloom
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If it's 3 pins, dc
4 pins are pwm

finite elm
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Someones getting lucky on hardwareswap. 😂 gonna sell them a 3900x for 200$ cause I just wanna get rid of it at this point.

finite elm
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Lol its not youuu

burnt spear
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shhh

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it is

shy wyvern
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I was hitting 100% with 5.2ghz overclock on an 8600k, it's why I upgraded.

tall iron
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Or if it was good

shy wyvern
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Yeah the 8600k/9600k are under threaded for modern games

tall iron
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Ahh

tall iron
shy wyvern
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Never used it

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I was using z370 chipset for my CPU

tall iron
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Oh I was just wondering

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Bruh I didn’t saying bad

tall iron
shy wyvern
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Debug lights tends to turn on when powered on and powered off, as long as it posts it's fine

finite elm
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How much of a bottleneck would a 3050 give a 12400? lol

grizzled bloom
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Yes

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All the bottleneck

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Unless it's fortnite

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Then dlss performance mode helps

finite elm
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😂

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So I should just get the 11400 even though it'd only be like 50$ more for the 12400?

vast meadow
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B660's are more expensive too

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Unless you're playing like csgo

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10400/11400

half lava
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A 12100 beats the 10/11400 in most games

vast meadow
finite elm
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saw a H670-ITX I could get for 183$(no tax) which is why I started considering it lol

half lava
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Yeah true with background tasks

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Itx is expensive

finite elm
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then a 12400 for 169$

shy wyvern
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12700 for $330 is also a great deal

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Double the cores of the 12400

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Although the 12700 and 12700f price has been going up and down a lot

finite elm
shy wyvern
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Ah I get you

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for general purpose I think 12700 (non k) is great value

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better than 12600k

burnt spear
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only thing that has enough perf for you

unreal dagger
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yoo... i had to reset cmos. when i turned my pc back on. went into bios it was good for a minute. then my pc restarting itself. but couldnt see my screen.
[8:21 PM]
just black.

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@burnt spear

half lava
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Why did it restart itself?

unreal dagger
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@half lava

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its now just sitting black screen

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cant get into bios

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even after restarting pc.

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pc is on sitting there

burnt spear
unreal dagger
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tried that. also the keyboard and mouse

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arent on

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as well as the monitor

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@burnt spear

burnt spear
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Mmm

half lava
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Full system specs? New or old build?

burnt spear
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Odd

unreal dagger
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2070 super ryzen cpu

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he cant remember the cpu

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lol

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3600mhz ram

half lava
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It’s an older build then? Why did you have to reset cmos?

unreal dagger
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its working. faulty ram stick

shy wyvern
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Woah

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12700k for $350 and 5800x for $300

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That's great pricing!

cerulean wadi
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eh, probably MC huh. For everyone else, at least there's the 12700F for $330.

finite elm
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I wish Microcenter had an B560 Itx board in stock locally.

If I got both CPU and Motherboard I could save 20$ 😦 but they only have a Z490I and its pretty pricey

cerulean wadi
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I wish MC would actually online/mail certain items, perhaps things that aren't selling well in-store.

granite sluice
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Anyway I can check if a z690 dark hero is faulty prior to ordering one 🤔

vernal cosmos
granite sluice
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Because I like it

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Plus I have a Intel 12900k

dense frost
vernal cosmos
vernal cosmos
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but if you have to buy it then no

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no way to check

granite sluice
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Which z690 y'all recommend them 🤔

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*then

vernal cosmos
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the Z690 aorus pro ddr4 is nice

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msi z690 a pro ddr4 is also good

burnt spear
final lintel
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I got a z490 Aorus Elite mobo in a bundle with a gpu. What would be the best way to sell it?

vast meadow
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Ebay, Facebook marketplace, r/hardwareswap subbredit

final lintel
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ok thx

loud sinew
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Anyone know the best budget motherboard ram and cpu

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i just need to get rid of this am3 motherboard and actually upgrade

mild jackal
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What's your budget

loud sinew
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for everything in total im probably looking to spend around 300 if thats even possible

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right now my fx 8350 bottlenecks on siege and I can barely keep a stable 80 fps

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with all low settings

cyan raft
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What GPU do you have rn?

burnt spear
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oh wait

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is that including ram?

loud sinew
grizzled bloom
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DDR4 is cheap and you can get a decent used kit for $40 easy

burnt spear
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pcp shows the only one being corsair

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nvm

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found a crucial kit

grizzled bloom
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There's also a hyperx kit that's low profile

cyan raft
burnt spear
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Getting this ram out is annoying

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Top locks are blocked by a fan, bottom are blocked by gpu

loud sinew
burnt spear
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Bro

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@mild jackal how am I supposed to get this ram out

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The bottom locks refuse to move

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Even on the empty slots

mild jackal
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They might not move

burnt spear
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Do i just pull the ram out then?

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Bc it doesn't seem like it wants to move

hollow thorn
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Sometimes, one side doesn't have locks

burnt spear
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And im pretty sure I see a crease where they're supposed to fold out

burnt spear
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On the ram that is

hollow thorn
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See if it'll come out if you just lightly pull on the side whose lock has opened

burnt spear
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It's already out on the top side

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Oh I see

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Got it

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Ty

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And how do I know which way it should go in?

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Push it in with a bit of force, if it doesn't click try the other way?

mild jackal
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Look at the notch

burnt spear
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And it should click right?

burnt spear
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Ram is in

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Now there's no display on boot, cpu and ram lights are on

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@mild jackal

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Does it just take a min or did I mess smthn up

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Nvm found the issue

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And now one of my monitors won't won't on

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Not the cord

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Switched two of the cords

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Got it again, partially came unplugged from monitor

burnt spear
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My brain ain't working tn

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Yall think this will work?

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Xmp is 3200c16

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Should I change voltage?

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@vast meadow same kit of ram you have

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Bumped it to 1.45v

vast meadow
burnt spear
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Was at 2667mhz

vast meadow
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You're on amd? Try these primaries

burnt spear
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Gonna boot at xmp first

vast meadow
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With vsoc 1.1v

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Cldo vvdp to 1.05v

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Vddg -both to 1.5

burnt spear
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Booted at 3200 with regular xmp

vast meadow
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Proc odt to 40 ohms

burnt spear
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I think I'll mess with ocing this sunday

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My brain is melted currently

vast meadow
burnt spear
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alr

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ty

vast meadow
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Np

shy wyvern
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the new windows 11 beta completely fixed the windows 11 ecore bug

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never seems to boot into ecore only mode now

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which is great

obtuse estuary
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Hi y'all, I have a quick question.
Will a Ryzen 9 5900x bottleneck a RTX 3060 ti?

burnt spear
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5900x good enough for a 3090 ti, and more (though we dont actually have perf of a 3090 ti yet, i can say that confidently)

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5600x enough for a 3090 at 1440p lol

grizzled bloom
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3600X even

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Or 10400

mild jackal
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Enable pbo and run some b-die at 3800c14, ez

devout mothBOT
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Jaxonize#0001 has been warned

Reason: Mass mention

dark flame
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Nope

icy field
naive pendant
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uhh

cursive epoch
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what

midnight pollen
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bruh

young cedar
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casual

gentle acorn
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Mhm

dark flame
cursive epoch
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lmao

naive pendant
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gg

thorny cobalt
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Wow

finite elm
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What a loser

warped scroll
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wow

lime quartz
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what the HECK

young cedar
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why ping me tho xd?

gentle acorn
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Welp

shell veldt
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wtf

dark flame
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Most active this chat has been in 6 months

cursive epoch
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slowmode this chat

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pls

wintry girder
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Why am i getting pinged

icy field
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incredible

wintry girder
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Wtf

cursive epoch
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people are gonna rush here

grizzled bloom
warped scroll
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🗿🗿🗿

slender otter
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Ping central..

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Why

humble acorn
quaint current
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darn

lime quartz
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ok enough. no need to respond

slender otter
bronze summit
gentle acorn
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I assume they went straight down the names XD since i was pinged even

mild jackal
finite elm
cursive epoch
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well

slender otter
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Enough

cursive epoch
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that was short lived then

slender otter
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Channel dies

gentle acorn
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Good

cursive epoch
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imma skeet outta here

meager elbow
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interesting channel for people to spam ping, usually it's like in general or smth

lime quartz
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its taken cared of, people. move along

gentle acorn
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Same

midnight pollen
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do i even want to know why that unfortunate soul was randomly pinging

jovial flare
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LMAOOO

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6 pings

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LOLOL

lime quartz
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lol

finite elm
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Excited to go to Microcenter this weekend

wintry girder
lime quartz
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nothing to see here...

gentle acorn
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Lmao

finite elm
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Gonna get me a 12900k to go with my 3050

eternal helm
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whats with the pings?

gentle acorn
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Nice

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Its taken care of dw

shadow seal
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why was I pinged like 7 times

river token
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wtf

grizzled bloom
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Robux scammer, nothing to see here

eternal helm
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was it a @ everyone?

royal pecan
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[insert generic ping response anger comment]

icy field
river token
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@gilded rapids wtf happened

meager elbow
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wait

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robux?

finite elm
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I'd have fallen for a robux scam

meager elbow
finite elm
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definitely wasn't robux

mild jackal
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Some people cry out for attention in strange ways..

grizzled bloom
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Yes. The mass mention has an obvious scam link.

midnight pollen
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xD

shy wyvern
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WHOMST HAS SUMMONED THE ALL MIGHTY TULIP

midnight pollen
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i blame jp he made invite here

finite elm
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When you think about it. Robux was kinda the first crypto currency

meager elbow
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nah

naive pendant
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🗿

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me want free bobux

finite elm
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are you telling me my 5000$ worth of robux is worthless?

grizzled bloom
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Take it to general people

digital kernel
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Welp, that happened

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It's done now

gilded rapids
royal pecan
river token
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bro

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Why did a scammer have access to Ping Perms

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Did the new admins break something

tall belfry
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HELLO

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why pings

eternal turtle
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WHY :(

rocky beacon
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No lmao, it was a tool that mentions each person

eternal turtle
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flormbo no like 6 pongs

rocky beacon
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You can't prevent people from pinging each person other than using a bot to just ban them right away after there is a mass mention

mild jackal
hoary echo
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is there a way to kneecap MS teams so it isnt using 45% of my cpu?

grizzled bloom
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Windows 11?

hoary echo
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10

glossy dust
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ah, gamer ping

grizzled bloom
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Is that when you're using it?

hoary echo
grizzled bloom
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Turn down your video quality settings, or tell it to encode using gpu

hoary echo
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alright thanks

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also would it be worth upgrading to win11?

grizzled bloom
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Not yet it's not

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There's still not enough new, useful features and too many things are broken

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10 is supported another 5 years

hoary echo
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yeah, one of the games i play reports driver issues on win11

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not sure if it's legit or not

grizzled bloom
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There was an issue with the task scheduler and e-cores tripping anti-cheat software, especially denuvo

hoary echo
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ah

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i dont think it wouldve been that but thats understandable

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oh no

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class started 10 mins ago

grizzled bloom
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Oops

hoary echo
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💀

long geyser
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Does anyone know what B660 boards do BCLK OC? Seems like only ones I could find were DDR5 Strix

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Wondering if anyone is looking into it more, or if it's just being left at "go buy the ddr5 strix" or smth

arctic dome
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@mild jackal Hi

mild jackal
arctic dome
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russians don't use custom cables in their helicopter reallydisgusting

cyan raft
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Did my discord glitch or something, I just got pinged 8 times from this channel lmao

finite elm
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JK there was an Autoping bot

grizzled bloom
long geyser
grizzled bloom
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He's building it based on other people telling him which ones work too

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With pics of course

long geyser
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Anywhere to see the WIP list? Looked around a tiny bit and couldnt find much

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Apart from that one vid he did

wise quest
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Why was I pinged 6 times here?

naive pendant
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bobux scammer

upper aspen
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StarEgg fReE rObUx StarEgg

maiden flame
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I’m just curious, how good are Apple processors computer to intel and ryzen

naive pendant
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my 2nd x79 board arrives today Oh_No

maiden flame
vernal cosmos
burnt spear
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regular m1 i think is equal to a 10700k, but theres a lot of stuff you can do on a windows pc that you cant on a macbook

vernal cosmos
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theres a bunch of m1 chips

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and theres a bunch of intel and amd chips

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and they cant really be compared tbh

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they are 2 different architectures

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different os

maiden flame
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But is it possible to get an m1 that runs windows

burnt spear
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no

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and why would you want to anyways

vernal cosmos
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there is an arm version of windows tbf

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but not realistically

burnt spear
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at that point just make a 12600k build

vast meadow
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Even if it is it would suck ass because arm for Windows bad

maiden flame
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I’m just curious

hearty gust
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well the hope i not need update is gone

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i got buy a cpu to update the bord rip

burnt spear
vast meadow
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Seems sus

burnt spear
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shampoo the best thermal paste confirmed

mint pike
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I just upgrade my motherboard cpu and ram, and now my pc will now turn on

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I have 2 ideas that I wouldn’t know how to fix atm

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If anyone is willing to help lmk

maiden flame
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I have 16gb of ram memory and it says only 10.5 available should it be that

split copper
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yep

hearty gust
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got it working 🙂

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now is thear any way repair windows with out a wipe

hearty gust
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well update bios it booting now 🙂

drowsy rune
finite elm
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I wish I could order a custom motherboard

tiny fjord
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Anyone selling a Ryzen 7 5800x

finite elm
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Could try r/hardwareswap on reddit.

hearty gust
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22 err

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time replace all the ram

grizzled bloom
naive pendant
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its a drop of at the very least 80 watts

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Huge size difference

oak sand
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Let's say I have 16 gb in my pc right now, I have 2 slots left

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If I bought 2 individual sticks of 16 and slot them in, would it work?

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Bringing my total to 48

vernal cosmos
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but it also might not

oak sand
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would it be better to just get 2 more sticks of the same ram and have 32?

vernal cosmos
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get a kit

oak sand
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cause im sure 32 is enough just wondering if i could theoretically

vernal cosmos
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dont get 2 seperate

oak sand
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i already have 2 sticks so could I not just buy 2 of the same sticks?

vernal cosmos
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you could

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and

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it could work
but it also might not

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it could work to begin with and corrupt windows to the point of no booting

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it is not the manufacturer of the stick and the speed that decides compatability

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its the little black chips on the ram itself that affect it

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and those can be different for even the same model of ram

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same size, same speed

hearty gust
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i think 32 fine but bettter off with 64 if your buy ram buy iit in pair our might run in issue

vernal cosmos
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Ignore bunny

vast meadow
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And that is a solid maybe

hearty gust
ornate gust
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I’m confused

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So I have an ASRock B450 Pro4 motherboard. And I see that it has 2 m.2 slots. I already have an NVMe SSD In the top slot (which is PCIe Gen 3 x4) and the other slot is open (1 M.2 [PCIe Gen3 x2 & SATA3])

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Ive already tested another NVMe drive in the second slot, but It didn’t work. I’m trying to get another storage module installed in there but don’t know the specific kind to get any help?

half lava
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Are you using a SATA device? M.2 2 shares lanes with SATA3_3 and SATA3_4. If any are in use the others are disabled.

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@ornate gust

ornate gust
ornate gust
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@half lava

half lava
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Could be a bad drive then. Have you tried the boot drive in the other slot to verify with a known working drive?

ornate gust
half lava
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If it doesn’t you can just switch it back. Moving an m.2 is pretty easy

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That escalated quickly

ornate gust
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WhT the heck did I miss haha

half lava
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Get a MP33 from Teamgroup at a minimum

ornate gust
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Well I was gonna say that I have Amazon credit lmao

half lava
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Are you needing to buy a 1TB m.2?

ornate gust
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That’s what I’m planning

half lava
hollow thorn
ornate gust
hollow thorn
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Just note m.2 doesn't mean NVMe

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That drive for example is a m.2 sata drive

hearty gust
half lava
dire elbow
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i need help

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my pc stays at the mobo boot logo

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it says media consult ig something

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it doesnt boot into windows

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only boots when i restart it

hearty gust
dire elbow
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it just stays on a screen

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but works normaly after restart

hearty gust
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was it working fine be for our is this anew pc build

dire elbow
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a pre build i bought

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used

hearty gust
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can you boot in to the bios

dire elbow
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it alr had a win fresh install when i got it

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yes i can

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i set my ssd into the 1 boot option

hearty gust
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dose it hang if you try loading windows install disk

dire elbow
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wym by hang

hearty gust
#

windows logo

dire elbow
#

i saw this vid

dire elbow
#

windows always

hearty gust
#

check bios see if thear a update

dire elbow
#

boots

dire elbow
#

i saw a vid from the same guy with an asus board

hearty gust
#

what mother bord do you have

dire elbow
#

the bios looked same

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idk the exact type

hearty gust
#

oh i see

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may be thje drive bad

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did you reinsatall window

dire elbow
#

i got it with a fresh install

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its a yt pic

hearty gust
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make a vid of it trying to load windows

dire elbow
#

my bios look like these

dire elbow
hearty gust
#

might be a bad install

dire elbow
#

it just wait

hearty gust
#

try re install windows

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@vast meadow

dire elbow
#

ill do that

#

tmr

hearty gust
#

what you think can you help him

dire elbow
#

can u have a look at that vidm

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?

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idk if the options are the same on an asus board

hearty gust
#

sure 1 min

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it not going be the same

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try this

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be for i update bios on mine even this tool hang

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put that ona usb stick and see if it it load

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if it dose not boot with that then it bios

dire elbow
#

the only thing i see on boot option is my ssd

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and

hearty gust
#

you have spaire usb drive

dire elbow
#

a realtek pcie thing

dire elbow
dire elbow
hearty gust
#

get one

dire elbow
#

but sometimes it doesnt

hearty gust
#

oh

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so it some time will get in to windows

dire elbow
#

My pc works normaly

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Yea it just does this

#

but

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after i restart

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works fine

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its like

hearty gust
#

i reinstall windows if i was you

dire elbow
#

it tries to boot into something firdt time?

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and it fixes?

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bcs i restart

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its not a hugr problem for me anyways but i was freaking out bcs yeah

hearty gust
#

i had some truble with my pc too be for replace the bord

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i do not think it same issue

dire elbow
#

no my pc works perfectly fine

hearty gust
#

mine end up being bent pins

dire elbow
#

but sometimes it gets stuck on the mobo thing

hearty gust
#

it wood run for 7 min then shut off for no reson

dire elbow
hearty gust
#

ye

dire elbow
#

the only time my pc crashed was when i forgot to turn town val settings and i put hyper thread on lol😹😹😹😹

hearty gust
#

bad luck

dire elbow
#

my pc became an airplane

#

hagagah

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either way my pc works fine when im in

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it just doesnt boot sometimes

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but after restart it does

hearty gust
#

if you can reinstall windows

dire elbow
#

yk mobo boot screens?

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like the giga byte one?

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it stays on that

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but it works fine when i re open pc

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and windows spins etc

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and i get in under 10 seconds

hearty gust
#

but if it doing this on mother bord flash screen might be issue with the bord

dire elbow
#

no it says something like

#

Media Consult Ag

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it does the thing in the vid i sent

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wait hold on

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that cable doesnt look in place

#

could that be ir

#

@hearty gust

hearty gust
#

may be

dire elbow
#

how do i turn off pc

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unplug it from surge protector

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or

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psu?

hearty gust
#

you mean the ssd

dire elbow
#

or turn off the surge protectur psu

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switch

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nono

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i turn it off the pc so i open

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the side panel

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i mean get accses power off pc so i dont die

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lop

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lol

hearty gust
#

go mother bord website

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update bios 1st

dire elbow
#

god my gpu so dirty

hearty gust
#

if that dose not fix it send it back for rma

#

you have it esy

#

when mine broke i had to replace mother bord twice

dire elbow
#

ok thank

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for ur time

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ok now

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i replaced the

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swotch

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sata

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and i try

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first time on

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it boots

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good sign

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ima run test number 2

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and do a 3 one

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i dont think its fixed

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omg

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2 time boots

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no way

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3 and last test

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@hearty gust

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didnt get fixed

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rip

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stuck on this

hearty gust
dire elbow
#

bios

#

see now i restart and boom

#

anyways ill go slerp

hearty gust
#

hope you get it fix

dire elbow
#

ty and ill come back when an actuall actuall annoyin thing happens💀

dire elbow
#

anyways

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i just dont want it to crash while on games

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or it being slow

#

but gn

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sleep well and ty

vast meadow
#

like ?!?

finite elm
#

Huh

vast meadow
finite elm
#

ah

cerulean wadi
#

Input on 10-11600K + $25 to have a 10700F ? (knowing the non-K and 10gen quirks). 10gen on 5xx chipsets means losing the top m.2 slot, but no biggie I'd say. 2 extra cores seems worth it.

smoky widget
#

@cerulean wadi You have any of those CPU's or not?

cerulean wadi
smoky widget
cerulean wadi
#

Cool. Yea the i7 stock turbo closes the gap on single core performance anyways, and bet I could adjust those settings up a tad if I wanted. Thnx. I'll do the 10700F tonight then return the other on Monday. Now I'm just debating getting the $100 kit of Oloy ram. Kicking myself for missing the ballistix at $90.

smoky widget
#

uff

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well best of luck with the purchase, always sales on stuff

#

specially ddr4 and such

cerulean wadi
smoky widget
#

I paid for 32gb for $180 G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB 3200Mhz cl15

cerulean wadi
#

I'm too frugal sometimes. What I resold was a $130 kit of 4000c18 G.skill. the black version of the pic I just posted was $90 for a few days a while back, lol.

hearty gust
#

will this m.2 work with out power for wifi and blue tooth

dim cloak
#

Only from the pcie slot

hearty gust
cerulean wadi
vernal cosmos
hearty gust
#

try moveing gpu still only one sata port working on my GIGABYTE Z370P D3 remove m.2 and all sata works

dim cloak
hearty gust
#

so i have other slot free

dim cloak
#

Oh alright

dim cloak
#

Alright cool

turbid radish
#

Do you guys and gals know of any mini it-x motherboards compatible with a Ryzen 5 5600G?

limber dragon
#

any b550 itx should work, along with just about any x570 itx with a display out

#

would be safe to assume b450 itx would do too

turbid radish
#

It says this tho

vital field
#

its fine, just means you have to update the bios if the motherboard you get has an old bios on it

turbid radish
#

How do you do that?

vital field
#

if you do have to do it, then youd just have to go to the mobo's product page and then find their bios updates and get the latest one or most stable one and put on a usb and then plug it into the mobo's bios usb port if it has one

turbid radish
#

Oh

#

K

vital field
#

if you have no way of accessing it other than your phone then oof but should be easy to do

#

theres also tutorials online if you need further instructions or help

rancid harness
#

but you'd need a 1/2/3xxx cpu to update the bios

#

before putting the 5xxx

#

no?

hollow thorn
rancid harness
#

ohh

#

I see

rancid harness
#

so if I'm on 1.60, ASRock b450m pro4 with a r5 2600 rn

#

do I update straight to the latest bios before changing to 5600x

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or in increments

cerulean wadi
#

Usually can do the latest, but check the mobo bios page 1st. Some say to go to 1 that's a certain age. At most would be 2 flashes I figure

burnt spear
#

11600k slightly better in single core slightly worse in mc

#

Imo not worth the extra 25$ or whatever it was, nothing ocing wouldn't cover

cerulean wadi
#

Yep, exactly. Cpu change to w/e. Might do the budget pick 11400(F) actually for a solid $70-80 savings.

atomic fiber
#

hi
how to enable xmp on x570e

hearty gust
#

Omg now i got issue with head phone rip

#

Got this stqngw hissing sound and that all i get crap

humble acorn
#

Anyway when you first turn on your computer follow whatever your MB's prompt to get into bios. Then in the memory or overlooking tab look for XMP or DOCP and you should be able to select your kit's profile.

atomic fiber
burnt spear
#

Lol, mx550 barely beats 5900_s igpu

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And they made it to compete with rdna2 apus

hearty gust
#

im real piss right now

dense frost
rocky beacon
hearty gust
#

lol

rocky iron
#

any good ram ideas, looking for like 32gb

grizzled bloom
#

What budget? Good kits of 32gb go for around $150-175 and the ultra budget ones go as low as $100 or less

rocky iron
#

I can probably do around $150

cerulean wadi
#

Recently saw the 3200c16 ballistix for $115ish, that's not too bad. If you want to deal with OCing/tuning ram.

rocky iron
#

Can u send link

cerulean wadi
#

Yep, that's pretty good too.
$119 for Crucial, a full $20-30 more than it was a while ago https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TSLDF2

rocky iron
#

Those both don't seem bad at all

cerulean wadi
#

Tbh I had that specific G.Skill then resold it. No hurry again since I just dropped the 11600K at ups. (Going 8core, or 1x400)

rocky iron
#

Aight thanks

vast meadow
rocky iron
#

I don't bother with overclocking

rocky iron
vast meadow
#

Tighter timings

rocky iron
#

Oh

vast meadow
#

But yeah if you're on intel the 4000 kit is a nice budget option

rocky iron
#

Idk what that means

#

I'll be sticking to intel

#

Amd is nice tho I can't lie

cerulean wadi
#

1.4v vs 1.35 is an extra thing I notice, but doubt it really matters. Only sold the G.Skill because I had my 11gen combo for sale. Is the gear 1 vs 2 ram stuff just on 500 series mobos and/or 11gen cpu?

vast meadow
#

G1/g2 is an everything thing

rocky iron
#

Just thinking about 12 gen intel

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How long do you think it'll last from now

#

Like if u were to use it

vast meadow
#

Depends on your use case

rocky iron
#

Well I would say

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Normal use

vast meadow
#

And what your expectations are

rocky iron
#

Like

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Gaming

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I don't do other things

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Don't stress test

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Or do any cad stuff

#

Or whatever

vast meadow
#

12600k would last most people 5 years before they wanna upgrade probs

rocky iron
#

Okay but what if u couldn't upgrade

#

Do you think it'll still be good in 10 years or so

vast meadow
#

No cpu will be good in 10 years, usable, sure

grizzled bloom
#

People still game on the 4770k and that's 8 years old

rocky iron
#

Thats what I'm saying

#

I was using a 2nd gen i7 for a while

#

I could play games just fine

grizzled bloom
#

Games tend to use the gpu more than the cpu

rocky iron
#

Makes sense

#

So I'm not wondering if it will be considered "good"

#

But more like

#

Usable like u said

grizzled bloom
#

Totally usable

rocky iron
#

Like no lag on newer games

vast meadow
#

Uhh lag is the internet connection but you should be fine, games usually get more gpu intensive rather than cpu

rocky iron
#

I meant fps

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but yeah

#

that sounds good then

cerulean wadi
#

Most games in cpu reviews are still not tons faster with 8core cpus vs 6core models (10/11gen). 8+ cores is a safe bet nowadays though for sure, just for future stuff or multitasking. How's this for a laugh. Though I'd give my current soon to be spare pc a thread boost for "cheap".

rocky iron
#

Imagine

main pulsar
#

dont dis the 1240v2 thats my first cpu

#

💪

cerulean wadi
#

Hey, it blows away my previous E8400 (2c2T). Before my big upgrade, I'm gonna repaste the 3550 & figure maybe spend $40ish on an 8thread version to try instead.

wintry scarab
#

I have such regret now that I got the 11 series

#

8 months in and Intel was like nope, discontinuing z590 boards

grizzled bloom
#

That's just what intel does. 2 years per socket if you're lucky. 1 year per chipset.

naive pendant
#

What board are you using?

cerulean wadi
# naive pendant What board are you using?

This great "budget" pick, probably less than $130 when purchased instead of $160ish msrp. My cpu actually isn't too bad. Hardest time it has is the big open world stuff of Apex Legends (cpu related settings mostly Low) & would rather not be at 90-99% usage while playing that, haha(I'm sure my "1%" fps lows are pretty bad. Really curious how much vs 8MB cache & HyperThreading would help. I quick checked Ebay for other xeons but they're $60+

naive pendant
#

I really like that color scheme

#

Reminds me of my x99 extreme6

#

@cerulean wadi Have you considered going Chinese x79/x99 and getting a xeon to match? Very good value for the performance imo

cerulean wadi
#

pepehmm idk, $40 alone is cheap enough to try

naive pendant
#

😔

#

x79 and x99 is really fun though

cold jasper
#

I keep seeing the threadripper 1900x cpu cheap on amazon?

#

any suggestions on motherboards?

vast meadow
#

Because it's old.. no point tho the board's are still expensive

cold jasper
#

for that cpu

#

i mean your not wrong

vast meadow
#

Also the cores are supppperr slow

cold jasper
#

i was thinking of using it for my k80

#

idk if itll work tho

vast meadow
#

K80?

cold jasper
#

a tesla card

finite elm
#

But quad channel memory, Pato

vast meadow
#

Still

#

It's an 8 core cpu

vast meadow
#

Would be better off

finite elm
#

Pato, do you think a H510 board would be fine for my console build? Or should I wait for the b560 to be back in stock? 40$ difference

grizzled bloom
#

H510 is single channel and no overclocking memory right? If you've got a low end cpu it would be fine

finite elm
#

11400+3050. It says it can have 3200mhz memory.

grizzled bloom
#

Probably ok but will limit the 11400 in some things

vast meadow
vast meadow
grizzled bloom
#

Ah that's right. H510 is also 1dpc

finite elm
#

Why do they lie and say 3200mhz then D:

grizzled bloom
#

It supports 3200 with 11th gen processors

finite elm
#

So i should be fine with with an 11400 :p

grizzled bloom
#

Seems that way

vast meadow
#

Ohh my mistake it seems up to 3200 with 11th gen

#

Intel's weird idk

grizzled bloom
#

Ikr

#

There's literally no reason for them to lock it at all except for artificial market segmentation anyway

finite elm
#

Would my 3600mhz ram run 3200mhz fine with xmp? Or would it be a slight struggle

vast meadow
#

Shouldn't be an issue

mild jackal
#

Why do you need to underclock

finite elm
mild jackal
long yew
#

what happens if I pair RAM of different speeds?

#

the system would reject it, yes?

burnt spear
#

If they're not, windows could corrupt or it could straight up just not boot

upper rose
#

oof

burnt spear
#

My windows corrupted mixing two incompatible ram kits

upper rose
#

does linux have that issue

burnt spear
#

Had to fully wipe both my drivers

burnt spear
#

Itd still cause issues

upper rose
#

if it fits it werks?

long yew
#

thanks for letting me know

burnt spear
grizzled bloom
burnt spear
#

If they're the same, they're compatible

long yew
#

they're unlikely to be the same die

#

but I'll check

grizzled bloom
#

Depending on the brand you might be able to tell from the white sticker on the sticks

long yew
#

also I hope MSI aren't too fussy with RMAs

#

they told me to after much troubleshooting so if they get upset that it's missing the CMOS battery or something I'm gonna be ticked

#

and/or refuse to refund instead of replace

#

I somehow bought 2 bad MSI boards in a row

#

lol

elder harbor
#

Is it worth it to switch to DDR5?

vast meadow
#

No

quartz oriole
#

DDR5 is stupid expensive and DDR4 is still fast enough to do what you want quickly

vast meadow
split copper
#

Gotta wait for DDR5 to git gud

cerulean wadi
#

At least it has HT. For someone on an extreme budget, but I'd do w/e I could to scrounge up an extra $40ish. The G7400 is actually pretty darn good for 1080p gaming. Also as cheapo server or certain other tasks, still a huge upgrade from most older 2 & 4 core cpus, especially regarding wattage & perf per watt

burnt spear
#

If you're pairing it with a gpu just get a 12100f for 10$ more

#

Intel should make a 4-6 e core cpu

#

Would be great for sff builds

#

As in just e cores

#

Low tdp and low temps

split copper
#

Yeah why do they make dual cores the same price as the quad cores

#

Smh

cerulean wadi
#

HT makes it act like a 4c of older cpus haha. 12100f also isn't only $10 more, & stock varies big time right now. Idk, the e cores are much weaker. They should though. Bet they'll eventually have the Ecore only cpus

burnt spear
#

But the 12100f is 97$

#

No yeah its $10 more

#

Not in stock rn but it's been in stock fairly often for 97

cerulean wadi
#

I keep seeing $120ish lately, so eh. Don't act like I'm not agreeing though. :kekw:

burnt spear
#

I see that on 12100 often

#

No I get how it is

burnt spear
#

You just LOVE disagreeing with me chillen

#

Smh

cerulean wadi
#

I want to see Pcore only 8core for cheaper, lol (but everything above 12400 has Ecores). Microcenter is too far. At least the 12100 & 12400 are so stonks

burnt spear
#

Also a 12100 with 2 e cores

#

If they gave the 12100 2 e cores it'd be great

#

4 cores limits it

#

Would prolly beat an 11400

#

Might fall a bit short of 5600x, but then people wouldn't have incentive to buy 12400 unless they gave that two e cores too

cerulean wadi
#

Ecores would jack up their price a bit & sort of require Win11. Yep, it's funny how no Ecores is how 11600 or 11700 actually beats even the 12400 in certain tasks, but obviously not most games. 13gen & possible future 12gen cpus will be interesting.

burnt spear
#

I still prefer w10, and the e cores don't have "proper" support, or atleast I don't consider them to with how buggy they are

#

12600k would be nice too, but 210$ mobo hurts on top of the 300$

#

Instead of 330$ for both cpu and mobo

cerulean wadi
# burnt spear If I were to build rn, I'd go 12400f tbh

Same, or 12600k/12700(F/K) if somehow got MC pricing. Indeed the Ecores don't help too much for gaming I think. I'll try a 4c8T xeon for a bit & watch as more B660 or cheaper z690 mobos appear. Apex Legends is the only game I have that makes cpu go 95-100% a lot, lol. For $40 thought I'd see if extra 4 threads helps any, but idk for sure.

burnt spear
#

And if I do it'd be a 5600x, since I already have a b550

#

Wouldn't bother with a 5800x, since I don't feel like getting an aio

#

And it'd be a pain, since my mobo is sff

rancid harness
cerulean wadi
# rancid harness I'm really confused on whether apex is CPU or GPU intensive

Idk, and my 2nd-best 2016ish GPU is for sure picking up the slack a lot. All GPU related stuff is almost maxed out and cpu related stuff is on low. I easily get 120-150 FPS (personal frame cap, 60Hz display also) but cpu is literally 99% usage. Huge map is a part of it I figure. Well, it's a 10 yr old quad core that doesn't even have Hyperthreading. All other games I have, cpu related settings can be much higher, even Doom Eternal.

cerulean wadi
vast meadow
vernal cosmos
split copper
#

The man for the job

rancid harness
#

hi ive got an urgent question for bios update

#

im on version 1.60 currently so i need to update to 2.00 first

#

ive installed the drivers for that version

#

do i have to install the drivers to 3.10 after 2.00?

#

or can i just update straight to the 5600x supported bios

vast meadow
#

Drivers aren't bios specific

rancid harness
#

so ill have to download both drivers?

vast meadow
#

Just do whatever it tells you to

#

If it says update drivers before bios flash I'd do it

rancid harness
#

im really confused on the bios page itself

#

so i need version 4.60 for 5000 series support

#

currently on 1.60

#

i need to go to 2.00 first before going to 4.60 straight?

vast meadow
#

So install this driver

#

Then update to 2.0

rancid harness
#

after 2.0?

vast meadow
vast meadow
rancid harness
#

ive already downloaded the first one

#

so i just download the latest one again before updating to 2.0

#

?

vast meadow
#

Yeah saves you updating again later before the other bios's

rancid harness
#

alright then after 2.00, can i go straight to 4.60

#

or do i have to do 3.xx?

vast meadow
rancid harness
#

im already installing the newer one now

rancid harness
vast meadow
#

Yeah looks like you can

rancid harness
#

I updated to 5.30

#

it says "Programming success. Press Enter to reboot system"

#

but my keyboard and mouse don't seem to work

#

what do I do

#

is it safe to power down and on again?

#

@vast meadow sorry for the ping but I need an answer

#

wtf nvm... my mouse worked all of a sudden...

hollow siren
#

I have a wi-fi dongle that does the work with no problems, is a mobo with wi-fi better than the dongle?

cerulean wadi
split copper
#

I prefer the idea of having an add-in-card for WiFi rather than USB or integrated, but there's a case to be made for either

#

If what you have works for you then perfect

#

The WiFi dongles I've had that actually worked did the job just fine, and I hope they continue to

vernal cosmos
rancid harness
#

in bios

#

for some reason after it finished my kb and mouse weren't working

#

I waited for a bit and it somehow worked

#

thank god

hollow siren
vast meadow
#

Honestly no point getting a new motherboard without a new cpu

hollow siren
#

The problem is that my current video card is eating up the space for 2 sata ports xD and i hate using microATX because is so small and my hands are kinda stupid

vocal pelican
#

lol

#

get the serum from steve rogers

vast meadow
vocal pelican
#

it may help in ur hand issue

#

🙂

hollow siren
vast meadow
hollow siren
#

The two things that i do want to change is the case and the storage, or upgrade would be the correct word.

hollow siren
vast meadow
#

Ahh rip

hollow siren
#

Yep, that's why i want a bigger mobo xD

#

My ryzen 5 5600x is cool for my current cpu, don't see myself buying a new one in less than 5 years

rancid harness
#

do I just press Y

vast meadow
#

N should be fine if you just updated bios, Y if you swapped CPU

rancid harness
#

now it's going past the ASRock screen and not booting to windows

vast meadow
#

Enter bios when booting up and check boot priority

rancid harness
#

yeah it's my ssd

dense frost
#

is there a new error message? or is the screen just blank?

rancid harness
#

it says no display

#

full fan speed

#

and restarts

vast meadow
#

But you can get into bios right?

rancid harness
#

yes

vast meadow
#

Uhmm can you send a screenshot of your boot priorities in bios?

rancid harness
vast meadow
#

Can you hit enter to show your options

rancid harness
#

there's only 1 option

#

nvme and disabled

vast meadow
#

In my experience it should say ssd then windows boot or something after it/before it

rancid harness
vast meadow
#

Hmm, was it always like that?

rancid harness
#

I can't remember

#

weird...

dense frost
#

clear cmos?

rancid harness
#

I changed xmp to 3000mhz instead of 3200mhz

#

and it booted?

#

which is weird because I updated bios and it allowed me to boot 3200mhz earlier with my Ryzen 5 2600

#

am I supposed to clear CMOS after changing the cpu?

vast meadow
#

What is your new cpu?

rancid harness
#

5600x

#

from 2600

#

i already updated bios to newest

vast meadow
#

Right and you have the 5600x in now yeah?

#

Weird

rancid harness
#

yup

#

should i try to run 3200mhz again

vast meadow
rancid harness
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is there anything specific to do after changing CPU?

vast meadow
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Well i would enable precision boost overdrive

rancid harness
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how do i do so