cpus-mobo-and-memory

[glad lichen]

not sure how

[cursive epoch]

Well it's in bios

[glad lichen]

its a Asus B350 F

[cursive epoch]

And ya need to turn it on

[glad lichen]

ok ty

[mild jackal]

Check cpuz, don't rely on task manager

[tiny rapids]

Hey guys, so my PC just restarted itself. I saw the RAM light go from green, to red, to white, to green.

Sometimes RADEON Software will crash when I'm playing Outriders too. Or just watching netflix. Or googling something. I need help pinpointing the issue. Temps are fine. They stay under 80c

My RAM is in 2 and 4 slots. I am getting new RAM, faster, and more RAM, here in a couple weeks.

Any ideas as to what the problem could be would be nice.

[burnt spear]

What cpu do you have

And what's your current ram

[tiny rapids]

R5 5600X 2400Mhz 2x8GB HyperXFury

haven't checked the cpu paste yet. It's never caused trouble before tho. I need to order more paste. Idk where I put mine.

[burnt spear]

Ram is def too slow but I doubt it would cause that issue, I haven't heard anything like that anyways

Could be a bad ram stick though

[tiny rapids]

ik. Back when I bought my RAM, i thought I had ordered 3200. In fact, I'm pretty sure I bought 3200. But this time I'm getting 4x8GB 3200.

[burnt spear]

Ehh

I'd go for 2x16, 4 can be stretching the imc sometimes

And make it harder to run faster ram

[tiny rapids]

so only utilize 2 RAM slots

[burnt spear]

No

Well

Depends what you're asking

It will utilize all four

If you mean go for 2x16, yes it'd be better to use two

Atleast from what I've seen other people say here, I can't say that I'm the most knowledgeable when it comes to ram

You could wait for a second opinion if you'd like

[tiny rapids]

Only need 32GB. 16GB is too low. Considering I like to keep like 10 Firefox Tabs open when I play.

[burnt spear]

No like

Two dimms of 16gb

2x16

[tiny rapids]

well I've always heard 4x8GB is better than 2x16GB

cause of dual channel

[burnt spear]

Ehh

[tiny rapids]

I wanna upgrade my GPU but that will be a few months. Need to pay down some expenses first. But I also want to upgrade my Mobo. Right now I have the crappy x470 TUF-Gaming [WiFi]

[burnt spear]

More bandwidth but it puts more strain on the cpus memory controller

[burnt spear]

I mean, it should be fine for a 5600x

Vrms probably aren't great but it's not a super power hungry cpu

What's your current gpu?

And what's your power supply?

[tiny rapids]

apparently it's a 5600XT

its a 5700XT

[tiny rapids]

I currently use Corsair RM850

[burnt spear]

5700xt is a good mining gpu, you could probably find a straight trade to an lhr 3060 ti

r/hardwareswap

[tiny rapids]

I think PC Benchmark said 3060 TI was slightly better than 5700XT

[burnt spear]

Yep

5700xt=2070s, 3060 ti=2080s

Around 10% diff I think, but you also gain dlss and rtx if you want those

[tiny rapids]

yeah average 10-15% better for most games

I wanted to get 3060ti or better. But with price market, I'd have to spend like 700 for 1

[tiny rapids]

or 6600XT. As I have no idea how to uninstall Radeon drivers. I know it's through bios. But I can't even navigate this Mobo Bios. LOL

[burnt spear]

6600xt isn't much better than 5700xt

Maybe 5%

[limber dragon]

wait, why would you have to go into bios to uninstall drivers from your OS?

[tiny rapids]

switching from Radeon GPU to Nvidia GPU

[burnt spear]

It wouldn't matter

[limber dragon]

||we're learning something here||

[burnt spear]

You wouldn't have to uninstall them

[limber dragon]

tell me why you would need to go into bios to change something that stored in your OS

[burnt spear]

The amd drivers would just sit unused

[tiny rapids]

Thought they caused problems with each other

[limber dragon]

they often do, but you can have both

[burnt spear]

Not afaik

[limber dragon]

I've ran an amd gpu right next to an nvidia and didnt have issues with drivers

[burnt spear]

I mean

[tiny rapids]

I heard somewhere that's where you had to go to uninstall GPU drivers when changing from Nvidia to Radeon n vice versa.

[burnt spear]

Crossfire used both drivers

[limber dragon]

just lookup how to uninstall gpu/display drivers

[tiny rapids]

Crossfire would be with the Mobo right?

[burnt spear]

Atleast a good while ago when it was possible

Crossfire was running 2 gpus together, I believe which was possible using certain nvidia and amd gpus

500 series and lower

I'm not sure what nvidia gpus

[limber dragon]

nvidia never supported amd™️ crossfire

[burnt spear]

There was a way to use them with it, no?

[limber dragon]

and amd never supported sli

specific programs could utilize both, but not via crossfire

[burnt spear]

Ig I'm remembering wrong

OH WAIT

I remember where I got that idea from lmao

[limber dragon]

you're thinking of mgpu

[burnt spear]

Like 9 months ago someone on reddit said they were crossfiring a 710 with a 580, when in reality they meant a dual boot system

[cursive epoch]

dx12 has mgpu

[limber dragon]

dx12 has mgpu support as long as devs add it in (they dont)

[cerulean wadi]

Nvidia sli vs amd/ati crossfire

[grizzled bloom]

You had to use hacked... er, modified drivers and then you could basically use the amd card as the main and the nvidia card as a physx processor

[cursive epoch]

there's very few games that uses dx12 mgpu

like uh the latest tomb raider

[limber dragon]

bf2042 has it somewhat

[cursive epoch]

perf basically linearly increases with second gpu added in

[burnt spear]

Didn't intel recently find a way to use igpu with dgpu or smthn? Or say they did?

[cursive epoch]

almost double

[cerulean wadi]

Nope (edit: to doubled performance w/ 2nd gpu.)

[cursive epoch]

also well, eh no

intel didn't say that

[burnt spear]

I saw smthn along those lines

[limber dragon]

intel can use quicksync

its for blender iirc

[cursive epoch]

but since arc dgpus are coming

it could flawlessly work

quick sync is an encoder and decoder

[grizzled bloom]

Yes they have a way to split render tasks between dgpu and igpu, we'll see how well it works

[cursive epoch]

it could be used for rendering videos and such

[burnt spear]

That seems like it'd just cause issues to me for minimal gain

[cursive epoch]

while not tapping into dgpu's power

it's been a thing for years actually

since haswell

i think

[burnt spear]

Unless it means set the igpu to one task

And dgpu to a different one

Like YouTube video to igpu

[cursive epoch]

qsv uses igpu only

[burnt spear]

That sort of thing

[grizzled bloom]

In their demo slides it looked like the cpu was sending a few frames to the dgpu, then a couple to the igpu, alternating

[cursive epoch]

dgpu is unused

and qsv is actually good too

unrelated to the new thing Intel talked about

but still

[tiny rapids]

[LOCATION] TX, USA [H] RX 5700XT [W] RTX 3060TI

Would this be a proper title for Reddit r/hardwareswap? LMAO I hate reddit cause its dumb and confusing.

[burnt spear]

One sec

Mind if I dm you?

Its been a while since I made a post but I think I remember

[tiny rapids]

idc

[tiny rapids]

Seems my pc is too hot. I mean the glass is warm af. 😂

I have the o11 dynamic razer edition. I wanna upgrade to the ROG XL case. That way I can load it up with fans. I only have 5 fans in this case. Not including the cpu cooler.

[dense frost]

011D is better for custom water loops than air cooled systems

[naive pendant]

fan filling isnt a good idea

if you do it wrong your temps are going to be worse and you get case turbulence

also just dont get the o11d

get a case that doesnt rely on 6+ fans for at least okay thermals

[cursive epoch]

^

[tiny rapids]

So is there a case that looks like the O11 XL that can use a bunch of fans that has good airflow?

Water loops are 2000+$ and a waste of money in my opinion. They look cool. But not worth the price.

I like how the O11 looks and how much space you have to do things in it.

[vast meadow]

More like ~400$ but okay

[dense frost]

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-air-mini/

[tiny rapids]

That requires me buying a 240mm Radiator. I have 360 lol.

[cerulean wadi]

[dense frost]

https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-evo/ + https://lian-li.com/product/o11de-4/

[cerulean wadi]

well thnx for the case idea though haha.

[dense frost]

np

im huge Lian Li fanboi

[tiny rapids]

Ha. I like that evo case. And didn't know they made mesh front alternstives. I just found 1 for the O11 XL. Lol.

[dense frost]

that evo case is not cheap though

[tiny rapids]

I'll look into it all once I get the $

[tiny rapids]

Looking for it now.

[tiny rapids]

It's out of stock everywhere right now. But 170$, good deal.

In stock on Jan 29. Perfect. I'll have the $ 😅

[cerulean wadi]

Seems oos a bunch right now. LL for me used to seem overpriced/$$$, but I'm totally digging that 011 Air Mini for $110, and the non-mini has the 2x80mm rear fans. Hope you enjoy that 011D evo. Seems pretty good.

[tiny rapids]

I can get the case. Can't get the mesh kit tho. Only found 1 place with the black kit. And it wont be in stock till 11/02/22

[dense frost]

so do a white build 😉

[tiny rapids]

And mess up my whole setup? Haha. I'm still looking. Found a non english site. 20 euro for it. Might gamble it.

[dense frost]

are you in the states or europe?

[tiny rapids]

U.S

AliExpress has it. 23$ shipping tho. Whether i get the actual thing or not, idk 😅 i can always get a refund tho via bank.

Arrives on March 10. 😅 Might have to get it.

[obtuse raft]

anyone willing to help me with my cpu clock speed acting up shoot me a message if you can much appreciated ♥️

[hasty kernel]

Hello i was directed here from newegg.ca chat. I have a Acer Aspire a315-32 and i am looking to upgrade the ram to 8gb and i wanted to know if ADATA 8GB DDR4 2400 (PC4-19200) SODIMM 260-Pin Laptop Memory Module Single Pack (AD4S240038G17-S) would work. Thanks

I checked the usermanual and tried to contact acer with no help

[vast meadow]

From what i can tell there's only 1 ram slot on that laptop so yes it's compatible but it would still leave you with 8gb so to get an upgrade you would need to get a 16gb module instead

[hasty kernel]

Well it still has the original 4gb so 8 is enought for windows 10

Thank you for your Help 🙂

[vast meadow]

No problem

[glad temple]

Hey all. Hoping for some (probably noob-level) advice here:
I'm getting a new case soon and want to more accurately color match with the rest of my theme. First idea that came to mind was to do some vinyl wrap on some parts of the mobo (heatsinks, etc., nothing delicate). My only concern would be, of course, temps and melting. Thoughts? Yes/no?

[vast meadow]

yeah that would kind of ruin the whole point of a heatsink

[mild jackal]

Depending on your mobo/cpu choice, the vrm might be efficient enough to run without heatsinks. i.e. would be no problem wrapping them.

Most high end boards can run completely without a heatsink.

[honest rock]

Fractal Design Torrent

[long yew]

things must be worse than I thought with the CPU market

I'm thinking of doing an entry level build for office work and maybe some very light gaming, and I keep going back generationally with CPUs to see if I can get a better deal

seems like the opposite happens

except for the CPUs that are flat out mud

lol

[finite elm]

10th gen I3 or 11th gen I5

depending on the light gaming, you might not even need a GPU.

[long yew]

either way, I have a couple

[mild jackal]

Pick up a 12100 or 12400

[finite elm]

Those too^

[cerulean wadi]

Cpu market actually is good for new stuff mostly. 12400 is $180ish, 12100 is $120ish, a few lower models are under $90. G7200 or w/e they are. 2c/4c ok for office but the lowest 4c aren't much more $$.

[long yew]

the 12100 looks great for what it is

[naive pendant]

good cpus for my b85m-g?

[half lava]

4790k is the best

[meager lake]

Where are you looking that you get those kind of prices?

[limber dragon]

newegg

just bought a 12100 for $120 or so

[cerulean wadi]

12400F is $180 but oos at bestbuy currently. Stock fluctuating greatly, and prices a bit lately.

[shy wyvern]

You guys see someone got the new Celeron to like 5.7ghz?

[meager lake]

Any idea where I could locate an 11th gen i9 for around those prices?

[shy wyvern]

Honestly they're usually about the same price

Microcenter occasionally sells 11400f for $140-150

[cursive epoch]

it won't be found that low, no

[vernal cosmos]

11900 and 11900k suck

[meager lake]

I'm building my first gaming pc and all that's missing is the cpu and gpu

[vernal cosmos]

go 12th gen intel

[shy wyvern]

11900k is literally bad

Like

Waste of sand

[vernal cosmos]

12600k or 12700k

[shy wyvern]

12600k is faster than 11900k in both gaming and multicore

[meager lake]

The socket is a lga1200 so kinda need the 10th or 11th gen's.

[vernal cosmos]

11700k waste of sand 11900k is just pathetic

[vernal cosmos]

return or sell the motherboard

[meager lake]

I don't really have the money to just sell it and buy a new one.

[shy wyvern]

11700k was honestly good for $270, microcenter was selling the for that at one point

[vernal cosmos]

selling it gets you money

[meager lake]

If the 11th gen isn't all that great should I just get a 10th gen?

[shy wyvern]

11th gen prices have gone up btw

[vernal cosmos]

so does returning it

[shy wyvern]

Yeah 10400f is usually around $140 I'd try that if you can find one

[meager lake]

I bought the motherboard a few months ago, not returnable at this point.

[vernal cosmos]

then sell it imo

theres really no point in 11th gen intel anymore

[shy wyvern]

Problem is every company is bundling z590 and b560 with EVERYTHING

So prices have shot up

[meager lake]

It cost me 400 I'll be lucky to get 200 for it

[vernal cosmos]

why tf would you spend 400 on a board

[shy wyvern]

They may have just been misinformed

Let's not bulli the new ones

[vernal cosmos]

even if you sell it for 200 ull get better perf for the same amount of money with 12th gen intel

[meager lake]

Cause the 12th gets hadn't been announced yet and it's my first time building a pc.

[vernal cosmos]

sell the board

for 200

[shy wyvern]

This why the white namers don't talk to you rawr :p

[vernal cosmos]

or 300

or how much ever you can sell it for

[meager lake]

I'm new to building, but not pcs. Thank you though for the concern.🥰

[vernal cosmos]

and get a z690 msi a pro ddr4

[shy wyvern]

Honestly a $200 z690 board + a 12600k will be more performance and be cheaper than 11900k

[vernal cosmos]

and a 12600k

[shy wyvern]

I have the MSI a pro ddr4, amazing board

And a 12600k

[vernal cosmos]

even after losing 200$ ull get better cpu perf

[shy wyvern]

I can really vouch that combo

[meager lake]

I have the MSI z590 Gaming wifi edge

[shy wyvern]

It's literally faster in gaming and multicore than the i9 11900k

12600k is faster than 11900k in everything pretty much

[vernal cosmos]

thats a 250$ board

not 400

[meager lake]

Then Bestbuy ripped me off or my memory is that shite

[shy wyvern]

Actually it was $290 MSRP rawr

Just been reduced

[dense frost]

also, cooler.. and uses less power

[meager lake]

I bought it around August of last year.

[vernal cosmos]

have you opened the box?

[meager lake]

Yes, cause I was excited, but nothing has been taken out of the packaging other than the manual

[shy wyvern]

Problem is companies like Newegg are bundling z590 with everything to get rid of them, their resale value has plumetted and 11th gen CPU prices have gone up recently

[vernal cosmos]

sell that board on ebay or something for 200$

[meager lake]

That's why I was wondering about the 10th gen, cause my laptop has a 10th gen i7 and runs perfectly

[shy wyvern]

12700 doesn't get major sales anymore

[dense frost]

laptop and desktop are not comparable, bud

[shy wyvern]

I7 10th gen mobile is slower than 10th gen i5 desktop

Same core count

Alright let's go this route

What're you planning on doing with your PC?

[meager lake]

This isn't good, I'll have to start over I guess. Like I said, other than the cpu and gpu the build is done.

[cerulean wadi]

10900K is 10core, that would be 1 of the few 10/11gen cpus to bother with, if it wasn't probably crazy price. I got the 11600K when it was $230 a month ago.

[meager lake]

Game and stream, most games don't need the newest gen stuff yet.

[shy wyvern]

Yet but it'd be silly to buy 2 year old products for new prices

[cerulean wadi]

1 year old*, if 11 gen

[shy wyvern]

10th gen is 2...

[shy wyvern]

You're talking about 10th even

[meager lake]

I may just have to give up my build and wait another 2 years to try again.

[shy wyvern]

What gpu do you have?

[mild jackal]

Just use what you have..

[meager lake]

I don't, I only need a cpu and gpu, and I'll have it up and running.

[mild jackal]

oh, yeah, sell the board

[shy wyvern]

Don't buy a CPU before you get a GPU anyways

In fact this is good recommendation for everyone here

If you're doing a build get the GPU first and build around that

Because GPU market is on fire

[meager lake]

Why?

[shy wyvern]

GPUs are going for double their asking price atm

Like a $329 3060 sells for $650 rn

[meager lake]

Alright, well thanks anyways. 😔

[shy wyvern]

So it's always better to wait until you get a good price GPU because that's what determines when you can build a gaming PC atm

[cerulean wadi]

so buy an overpriced gpu instead of actually build/use a pc (possibly gpuless for a bit).

[shy wyvern]

If you're buying scalped GPUs than nah

[cerulean wadi]

heck, maybe just shop around for a 11600K or 10700K (the latter might be found under $200 from those upgrading) - check ebay, FB mp, r/hardwareswap

[shy wyvern]

But if you're trying to nab a fabled retail card

Do that first

I've seen people wait 12+ months with a build before GPU

Trying to get MSRP

[cerulean wadi]

I tried to nab the $90ish ballistix but it didn't go through.

[shy wyvern]

Speed?

For reference my $25 a stick of 8GB ddr4 4400 took me 6 weeks of diligent hunting

And probably around 30 bids and offers

You'll get it eventually

[cerulean wadi]

the 3200c16 stuff that often OC's waaaay up. I forget if you had the Viper or someone else. Yeah I should check ebay and such too, might see a decent deal.

[vernal cosmos]

ballistix is cool

[shy wyvern]

The viper was me

Viper 4400 for $25 an 8GB stick

Took me forever

Running at 4000 cl16 and it's a beast of a 4 stick ram kit

[vernal cosmos]

beeeeeee die?

[shy wyvern]

Yep

B die

[cerulean wadi]

I'm aiming for 2x16, but the z590 imc probably doesnt care about 4x8 either. Of course some 8GB sticks oc good anyways.

[vernal cosmos]

4000 flat 14s doable

[shy wyvern]

I need time to tune that

I'm at 16-16-16-34 ATM

[vernal cosmos]

CHIPSET DOESNT HAVE AN IMC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[vernal cosmos]

send 14 14 14 34

at 1.5v

[shy wyvern]

Alright

I'll try that later

Not in the mood to run memtest for hours to validate atm

Maybe on my weekend (Wednesday-Thursday)

[vernal cosmos]

memtest sucks

tm5 on extreme anta config

[shy wyvern]

I meant tm5 I'm tired

It's almost 4 am and I worked 12 hours yesterday

Just can't sleep

Memtest wouldn't be running for hours I'd hope lol

Anta just takes so long to complete I don't have energy to set it up before bed

[vernal cosmos]

you can run tm5 while using pc for light tasks btw

ive even gamed while it was running

worst experience of my life

[shy wyvern]

That thing nearly maxes out my 12600k

[vernal cosmos]

it maxes out any cpu

dont matter which one

[shy wyvern]

Well max CPU + ram = computer not really usable imo

Too slow

[vernal cosmos]

you can throw an epyc 7763 and itll use the entire thing

[shy wyvern]

Jesus

[vernal cosmos]

watching online class or a movie or just some browsing the webs is doable

[shy wyvern]

Is it a memory tester or a space heater simulator

[vernal cosmos]

its not heavy load just high util

[shy wyvern]

I do school on my tab S7 not desktop

[vernal cosmos]

not all 100% cpu loads are created equal

[shy wyvern]

Sitting at my desk drives me crazy for movies or school tbh

[cerulean wadi]

hmm, was your viper stuff labeled 4000c18 or actually 4000c19? I found some marked the latter so far.

[long yew]

cheapest mobo supporting alder lake?

[naive pendant]

msi z690 a is pretty good

[vast meadow]

I mean technically asus prime h610 but you shouldn't use it

[long yew]

why's that?

[craggy moon]

Silly question. Is a i3 10600 better than a i5 3700?

[vast meadow]

Because h610 boards don't even allow xmp, slow memory not good for performance, you'd want to go with b660 prime, worth the extra 40$ and just better board in general

[vast meadow]

There's no i3 10600, do you mean i5 10600 or I3 10100?

[craggy moon]

They i3 10100

Got my #s mixed up

[vast meadow]

Yes i3 10100 is better

[craggy moon]

Okay assumed but wasn't 100% sure, do you happen to know how much better?

[vast meadow]

Also i assume you mean i5 3570?

[craggy moon]

I think that's what I have. One second

[vast meadow]

About 35% better if you just include single core performance but it has hyper threading so gonna be a way smoother experience in general as well as like a 80% increase in multi core

[craggy moon]

Ill have to check when I'm home

[burnt spear]

i had a 3470, went to a ryzen 3600

(about equal to an 8700k or 10400)

world of difference

[warm bolt]

That issue I was having with my 12700k running horribly. Guess what it was.

It actually was the windows scheduler. Finally got prompted for the windows 11 upgrade and did it to try to see if the scheduler would improve performance at all and my cpu is running sooo much better.

So if anyone else comes in with 12th gen cpu issues tell them to upgrade to windows 11.

[naive pendant]

Hey is this cpu good for price to pair with 1650 asking for friend

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3LZQzy/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k

[cursive epoch]

what price?

if you're using amazon price

ew no, big no

[naive pendant]

Holdon

Not on Amazon

Wait

What’s a good cpu for 1650 or 1060

Lga1155

[cursive epoch]

uh well anything at least i5 3rd gen

[naive pendant]

Alright

[burnt spear]

What's the budget

12100 could be an option

[burnt spear]

Anyone know what kits of ram use hynix dies?

Ripjaws?

Have someone looking for a second 8gb stick of 3200 hynix die

[grizzled bloom]

Not reliably, but they're often found on corsair, kingston hyperx, and crucial.
Not often found on G.skill but occasionally

[burnt spear]

I'll look forhyperx, most likely what they have

[grizzled bloom]

If you look for used sticks, check the pictures for a version number or 042/043 code on the sticker

On corsair if the version number starts with 5 it's hynix

g.skill if the third to last digit of the 042 code is 2 it's hynix

[burnt spear]

Found it, thank you

He gave me a model number and just searched by that

[grizzled bloom]

What brand? Out of curiosity

[burnt spear]

https://www.amazon.com/HMA81GU6CJR8N-XN-Replacement-DDR4-3200-PC4-25600-Unbuffered/dp/B08TJ14G6V

Ecc

🤮

[grizzled bloom]

Oh yikes

[burnt spear]

Idk if its straight from hynix or what

But whatever, it's a cheap pre built and he's not ocing ram

No heat spreader should be fine

[grizzled bloom]

Well if the cpu doesn't support ecc it's just a slight performance hit anyway

[burnt spear]

It's a 5600g

Rx 5500 pre built

[grizzled bloom]

I don't see timings so I assume it's a 3200 jedec kit

No spreader is fine for that

[shy wyvern]

BTW windows has this bug for windows 11 where it will boot in ecore only mode, if you notice it's slow go into task manager and look at logical cores. if only the last 4 have any usage restart windows and it should fix itself.

It happens about 20% of the time I boot windows from power off. Kind of annoying.

[vast meadow]

That's odd, have you tried reinstall of windows

[shy wyvern]

yep

I've talked to several other people

no 12900k opinions but several 12700k/12600k opinions

everyone I know has this issue occasionally

the scheduler just go into big dumb mode but it's very very noticeable

[vast meadow]

That sucks

[shy wyvern]

because your cpu essentially drops to a i5 6400 and you go "woah it's taking longer to start"

yeah just buggy cpu architecture beta tester nonsense

what's weird is it only seems to happen

when booting from complete power off

and a restart (not turn off and on or power reset switch) will correct it 100% of the time

something about windows booting up from nothing causes it to just mess up 1/4 the time

what's funny is sometimes I don't notice until I'm in a game

the ecores are surprisingly competent cpu cores

it's like a 12400 with a 6400 slapped onto it

One of these times that I'm stuck in ecore only mode I should cinebench test it!

I'm curious on what the ecores can pull

also my ecores are more power than chillins cpu, get rekt chillin

[cerulean wadi]

tbh that's part of why the 12400 looks so good, and actually would be cool to see a 12700 that was just 8Pcores and 16 normal thread

[shy wyvern]

I wish the 12600 had the 6p 4e like the 12600k

[grizzled bloom]

You can disable the p-cores in bios right?

[vast meadow]

You can always just manually disable p cores with an application

[shy wyvern]

wait

I think my bios might let me

or it might force me to keep 1 active pcore

I know I can disable ecores with legacy game support

lets see

I'mma go peek into bios

[vast meadow]

Not really disable, but you can only pin e cores to an app if you want

[grizzled bloom]

That would make sense actually, it would need core 0 to initialize post

[cerulean wadi]

nah, that's the point of those non-K options. they're way cheaper for not having Ecores. Just need to actually see the 12500/600 instead of just the xx400.

[shy wyvern]

actually 4 ecores cost intel about the same as 1 pcore and take up the same die space

that was part of their investor discussion

They're 1/4 the size and price and are as powerful as 6th gen cores clock to clock

Yeah unfortunately can't disable all pcores

So I'mma turn power off and on a few times

If I get the bug I'll cinebench it

I'll give it 3 tries

[cerulean wadi]

Just sort of need Win11 to use em well so far, thumb down to MS on that.

[grizzled bloom]

Watch it work flawlessly now that you want it to fail, just like at the mechanic

[shy wyvern]

That'd be annoying

Second attempt

[vast meadow]

You can let an app use only e cores with an app tho

Same diff

[shy wyvern]

I want all system functions to just be on ecores to test it

[vast meadow]

Ah well

[shy wyvern]

Can I put everything on ecores?

I want a true 4 core test

[cerulean wadi]

For just testing Cinebench, set it's affinity to just use the Ecores. That's all I can think of at the moment.

[shy wyvern]

Good thing is I know I have it when windows take over 20 seconds to boot from power off

It's not wanting to work

Annoying

I'll just do affinity for now, if bug happens and I don't forget I'll do a cinebench test

WTF

Cinebench overrode it??

Cinebench just flat out overrode the fact I set affinity to 12-15

Got it to work a second time

Oh cinebench lies!!!!!!

It simulates threads wtf

Only 4 cores are on the task!

Yeah it's just my ecores

[grizzled bloom]

It must set a number of workers equal to the expected threads

[shy wyvern]

Weird it's flat out lying on the cores working on it

Yeah they're all moving at the same time

I no cap got 16 of them moving (albeit slower much slower) instead of 4

3942 for multicore

Average i5 6400 multicore is 3232

So it seems a decent bit faster!

Still below the much higher clocked 7700k

I'm impressed

4 ecores = faster than i5 6400

Oh well 8100 is only 3600...

Slightly faster than i3 8100

I3 9100 averages 4080 in some benchmarks I saw

9100 had a cache and clock speed increase I think

So between an 8100 and a 9100 for the ecores! Very respectable for 1/4 size baby cores

[grizzled bloom]

Now overclock the e-cores 😎

4GHz is easy, 4.1 is possible on air, 4.2 on liquid

[shy wyvern]

I have 3.8

Problem is my entire CPU package almost throttles due to heat

I only have a dark rock 4 atm

1.255 volts

Pushes p cores to 93°C max load

[grizzled bloom]

Ah yeah their 12th gen bracket is a little lacking

[shy wyvern]

Yeah I notices

[grizzled bloom]

Have you seen the spacer mod that's supposed to help?

[shy wyvern]

Wait

MORE SPACE???

they want me to separate it more????

Oops maybe I have an overpressure issue then

That think is CRANKED down onto the cpu

I managed to squeeze a full centimeter out of the bracket

[grizzled bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezauy4as4lI

[shy wyvern]

Oh it raising the loader not the cooler!

Wait how tf does that not cause connectivity issues

You're essentially raising the CPU up a little aren't you?

[grizzled bloom]

The issue is usually if your cpu is concave and not convex, the pressure from the cooler isn't even with more pressure on the edges

So if you torque down the cooler, that slightly affects the shape of the parts causing bad contact in the center

[shy wyvern]

Torquing down improved my temps 6°C

The bequiet bracket also SUCKS

Barely any CPU pressure

[grizzled bloom]

So yours might be one of those cases where adding 1mm to the height is helpful

[shy wyvern]

I somehow cranked down a full extra centimeter out of the cooler

You can imagine how bad the contact was

It's fine anyways I'm burning this cooler eventually

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah that's what they get for rushing out a bracket honestly

[shy wyvern]

I think a liquid freezer ii 360 may prevent it from thermal throttling with some kyronaut paste

[grizzled bloom]

At least AM5 will be compatible with AM4 brackets

[shy wyvern]

Well they're idiots

I know the problem

I measured it

My 12600k is THINNER than my 8600k

But the bracket?

Same height

How Stoopid do you have to be to not take into account that the CPU height got smol

[grizzled bloom]

I imagine they raised the socket slightly to compensate but maybe not enough

[shy wyvern]

Well they have a new cooling standard guidelines regardless

So honestly it's on bequiet either way for making an inadequate mounting mechanism

[grizzled bloom]

So yeah, before you go spend $100 on a new cooler maybe try 50 cents on a few little washers lol

[mild belfry]

ok, I need some help upgrading my memory.

I have a x299 ud4 pro (revision 1.0) gigabyte motherboard and I can't figure out what memory will be compatible.

[grizzled bloom]

What processor?

[mild belfry]

trying to put in 64gb of 3200MHz, i9-9900x

[grizzled bloom]

Standard 288 pin DDR4 will work. You can go for faster than 3200 also, even with that much memory.

The QVL you linked is more of a guideline than a rule

[mild belfry]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164189 will this work?

times 2

[grizzled bloom]

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B083QRV1QT?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

It's best to get a full set of the total size you need, instead of getting two kits and hoping the dies match

[mild belfry]

ok

OOOoooo good price, thank you thank you.

[grizzled bloom]

Faster and better latency too

[mild belfry]

sick, you've been most helpful. ty, I think that's all I need.

[grizzled bloom]

Happy to help

[hearty gust]

will this work with 9700k https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0876HBFVC/ref=olp-opf-redir?aod=1&keywords=9700k%2Bmotherboard&crid=10BCG6VRRVYZG&sprefix=9700k%2Bmotherboard%252Caps%252C88&qid=1643191555&sr=8-1&th=1

[cerulean wadi]

You need Z390

[hearty gust]

can you link one you go with

[cerulean wadi]

Here's an example. Amazon isn't gonna be a good place for it because it's 2-3gen old now (so probably used)

[burnt spear]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5000-zen-3-b2-stepping-tested-cpus-offer-lower-temperatures-lower-power-stable-boost-clocks-better-ddr4-support/

[hearty gust]

yea the bord i have was bsod and it act real funny now it will stay on for 5 min and just shut off with temp a round 40c

[long yew]

it kind of amazes me that I can grab a 10100 or 10105f for like, nothing

[burnt spear]

aight so

i have a friend with a 1600 on an a320 paired with a 580 8gb

i figured the next upgrade would be cpu/mobo, hes trying to keep cost pretty low

would yalll say 12100f and b660 prime would be fine?

hes 15 so he can't work, which is why he wants cheap

hes prolly gonna upgrade gpu later on, and wants to keep the cpu for 3-4 years

[naive pendant]

Then he should go with a i5 10400f or something of the likes

[vast meadow]

I'd save the extra bit for 12400f

[burnt spear]

alright

[stray current]

should i bother upgrading my 10700k ? had it for 2 years.
currently upgrading from a 1070 to 3070

[tall iron]

No I think your good for while more

[vital field]

can go on amazon and find some from companies like asiahorse or go to cablemod for some extensions

if you want custom ones of specific colors or how the cables look, cablemod would be the way to go imo for the customization

[tall iron]

Thanks

[tall iron]

I ordered ones from Asia horse and the don’t match the sockets on the psu

[cerulean wadi]

Of course, don't put normal extensions straight into a psu....

[vital field]

are you looking for extensions or actual cables?

actual cables you plug into the psu, extensions you plug into the already existing cables thats plugged into your psu

hence, extensions

[tall iron]

Oh lol nvm

[cerulean wadi]

Yes, it's very common for psu ports to be funky in the sense a standard "extension" can't replace the stock cables. Certain psus do have good replacement sleeved cable kits, but more expensive usually.

[tall iron]

Nvm I just bought some for better cable management but I’m dumb and thought they went straight to the psu

I should have guessed from the name

[cerulean wadi]

Still can use em, you'll just have the "extra" to deal with, lol. The only thing I want an extension for is gpu cables that often don't bend too well & don't look good

[tall iron]

Got you

You think I can stick the extra slack in a o11

Case

Or should I just get cable replacements

[cerulean wadi]

O11 with the hidden psu & probably tons of room for cables? I'd try em out. Could always not use 1 or 2 extensions that don't help much.

[tall iron]

Ight

[tall iron]

Yeah the Lían li one

[devout moth]

OGArtur#9590 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

OGArtur#9590 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[tall iron]

Looking for a mobo for an i7 12th, with thunder bolt and preferably ddr4

And more than 5 usb sockets

[vast meadow]

I'd personally wait til at least 13th gen/Ryzen 7000 i think they're calling it comes out

[tall iron]

Oh really

Ight I’ll hold off then on an upgrade to my current system

[vast meadow]

Yes 10700k still pretty good

[tall iron]

I currently have a !5 9th and was looking on upgrading but you think I should wait then I will

[vast meadow]

With what gpu?

[tall iron]

2070 super

[vast meadow]

Does your cpu still do what you want? If so I'd personally hold off a bit longer

[tall iron]

Yeah

[grizzled bloom]

9th gen is still recent enough that there's not much need to upgrade, unless you're playing games like cs:go and you need to go from 400 to 500 fps

CPUs tend to last quite a while before the age is felt, around 4-6 years

[tall iron]

Ight I’ll hold off for longer than

[cerulean wadi]

Might be getting some well priced Tridents

[vast meadow]

50$ for 32gb would be

[cerulean wadi]

Yes indeed. 2 more days. It's not B-die, but cjr isn't bad either. I wouldn't OC much at all anyways, perhaps simply adjust (sub)timing

[burnt spear]

My crucial gets here today-sunday

Hope not Saturday, we're getting 12-18in of snow

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/enjoy-toast-cheers-great-gatsby-the-great-gatsby-gif-4785000

[burnt spear]

6600h supposedly performs around 5600x

Pain

People are saying 6600h will be in laptops around 800-1k

Was more so hoping for 6800h/u in that price point

[wanton agate]

does anybody know what the dram pcb revision of this specific memory CMD32GX4M4A2666C15? thank you

[grizzled bloom]

Corsair?
DM me a pic of the label on the memory

[rancid wasp]

i have a 3pin rgb cable, where does it go on the motherboard

[hollow thorn]

What motherboard?

[cerulean wadi]

Awesome! The 3200c16? Until it's on sale I'll try Ebay for a week & see if I can save a few bucks too

[shy wyvern]

Your motherboard should have a manual with it to that will tell you everywhere to put things. Also some motherboards have a map in the bios too, I know both my last 2 motherboards have had a layout thing

[shy wyvern]

What I did for my viper kit for like 2 weeks, just have patience if you have no reason to hurry

someone will post a deal way too good or will accept a low offer lol

[cerulean wadi]

Yea, no hurry for a while. Z590 mobo is a tougher sale than anything now also. Besides the Tridents, quite a few other good ram kits on Ebay

[shy wyvern]

People struggle to sell z590 boards because half the people that have them have them from bundles they didn't want

[cerulean wadi]

Yeah, market is flooded with them huh. Foolish me. Had an idea. Return 11600k, get a cheapo xx100 or xx400 to be a roommate or relatives upgrade, then I go 12gen or hold off a bit more for 13gen. Technically my 60Hz screen is almost a worse bottleneck than the cpu.

[vast meadow]

Is that the hydra logo?!?

Also 60hz

[cerulean wadi]

Lmao. Yes x2. M27q is mine soon as I see $300 or less, or decide if high Hz 1080p is enough of an "upgrade"

[vast meadow]

No please i just watched age of Ultron

Flashbacks

[cerulean wadi]

Ultron got spanked

[cerulean wadi]

Pfp change(d). 🙂 only 1day 4hrs left on the ram auction.

[naive pendant]

good cpus Asus B85M-G under $200

[cursive epoch]

That's old platform tbh

Not worth getting a cpu for

[burnt spear]

10500h 3050 ti laptop on its way, it has 8gb 2933 ram

Would it be cheaper to buy a matching stick from dell or should I just buy a new kit of 2x8

Lpddr4 isn't very expensive last I checked

Oh I probably should've checked if the g15 has soldered memory

Oh good you can

Oh it also might be 2x4, im not sure

[cursive epoch]

well

the only way to find out is when you get the laptop

and look its model up

[burnt spear]

Well ill open it up to see what ram is in it

But it's definitely not soldered

[cursive epoch]

you can check with cpu-z lol

no need to open it

[burnt spear]

Yeah true

[shy wyvern]

Hope it doesn't come with ddr4 2400 like my 10750h 1650ti one did LOL

I'm running B die 4400 cl18 4x8 kit at 4000 16-16-16-34, what should I try pushing to?

IMC literally won't boot 4400 with safe voltage with 4 sticks so I'm just going timings route

[burnt spear]

It's 8gb 2933

I know that much

If I changed it to 16 the sale on it didn't apply anymore

Same thing with a warrantee subscription that I'm unsubscribing from immediately

Or smhtn like that

Anyways I'm not too concerned with cpu performance

As long as it isn't bad enough to bottleneck a 3050 ti I'm not concerned

[finite elm]

The CPU is good. No worries

[burnt spear]

yeah i know

roughly about a 3300x

[burnt spear]

does the ds3h support 5600g without a bios flash?

[vast meadow]

B550, at this stage most likely but why ds3h?

[burnt spear]

its a very budget build for a friend whos building for a friend

[vast meadow]

Thing is it should but there's no guarantee

[burnt spear]

wdym?

do you have any suggestions for preferably under 500, up to 600?

i did this for if hes able to find a gpu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fvQbtn

[vast meadow]

I mean it should support the 5600g but theres no guarantee, depends how long it's been sitting on shelves

[vast meadow]

I'd do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HFVWYg

[ember ermine]

Hey so I like just built my new pc, and I have an asus b550-a mobo

But when I TRY TO CONNECT MY ETHERNET IT DOESNT WORK

sry caps

so i was wondering if any of you could help

i know for a fact that my caBLE DOES WORK THO

once again caps lock, sry

[shy wyvern]

Have you updated bios and installed your drivers for motherboard?

[ember ermine]

I beleive that I have because I went to asus's website for my motherboard and downloaded the lan driver

[shy wyvern]

Make sure you update the bios too

[ember ermine]

Could you link me a video so i can see how to do that please?

[vernal cosmos]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Update-Drivers-Firmware/wiki/Bios-Updates#asus-bios

[cyan temple]

Alright, so, I kinda have to upgrade my mobo, since the CPU cooler I bought doesn't mount to my current one. Recommendations? Processor is Ryzen 7 5800X

[rocky beacon]

A new CPU cooler is going to be cheaper than a new motherboard most likely lmao

What motherboard and CPU cooler do you currently have?

[cyan temple]

Current board is MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX, cooler I bought is AMD Wraith Prizm

[rocky beacon]

Both of those work together

[cyan temple]

Mounting on this board has screws for the cooler, not the hook kind on the Wraith

[rocky beacon]

Then just buy the mounting bracket, way cheaper than spending like $100+ on a motherboard

The bracket is like less than $10

The motherboard should have came with the mounting bracket

https://www.amazon.com/DGZZI-Backplane-Heatsink-Motherboard-Mounting/dp/B084GQFFBY/

$8 for the bracket, incredibly better than buying a new motherboard

[limber dragon]

just get a new cooler, no reason to make a 5800x suffer with a stock cooler

[rocky beacon]

A even better idea

[limber dragon]

its a 105w cpu (iirc?) and the stock coolers do like 65w "fine"

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-its-fine-everything-is-fine-burning-house-happy-dog-gif-21646319

[cyan temple]

The cooler I'm currently using is the one from the Ryzen 5 3600 I replaced

[rocky beacon]

Yeah, then get a better CPU cooler

[cyan temple]

Got one, just no way to put it on. lol

Checked the box my current mobo came in, the brackets weren't there

[rocky beacon]

Well you should return that CPU cooler and get a better one

[cyan temple]

What's wrong with the Wraith Prism?

[rocky beacon]

It's a little weak for the 5800x

5800X runs really hot

[cyan temple]

What temps should I watch for until I can get a better cooler

Currently seeing 75-80 C

[limber dragon]

idle or load, and what load?

[cyan temple]

27% total

[rocky beacon]

Yikes

[burnt spear]

what cpu, holy

[cyan temple]

Ryzen 7 5800X

[burnt spear]

i wouldnt recommend doing much until you get a new cooler

what i did before i could get a better cooler than i had is put a room fan on top of my pc

[naive pendant]

hes on the stock cooler right?

@cyan temple does your case support 240mm clcs?

or 360

[cyan temple]

Well, stock cooler for the Ryzen 5 I had. Had to order brackets for the new cooler I got

[burnt spear]

why do you need new brackets?

[limber dragon]

there is no "stock cooler" with 5800xs

because you're supposed to get a high end aftermarket cooler

[shy wyvern]

Better get out the liquid nitrogen

[cyan temple]

I've been doing some research on temps for the 5000 series. And everything I've seen so far has stated that temps up to 95C is expected?

[rocky beacon]

"Expected" does not mean it's at all good

If your system is 75-80C near idle that is not good at all

[cyan temple]

Near idle, no

Had a load on it then

[rocky beacon]

27% is "near" idle

That's not a full load at all

[cyan temple]

Never said it was

[rocky beacon]

What?

[cyan temple]

I just said a load

[rocky beacon]

Okay? But it should not be near 75-80C

At that load

[cyan temple]

I came here asking for a recommendation, not to be berated. So, this matter is closed. Have a good evening sir

[rocky beacon]

And we gave you a recommendation.

[ember marten]

90C is what PBO will allow up to

also because of how thermally dense Zen2/3 is, and how heat generation is further concentrated in particular parts of the die, and how temperature reporting works, 80C in "idle" isn't uncommon

If you can generate an all core load up to your stock PPT (105W for 5600X, 142 for everything else) and it's 85C or less, it's probably fine.

[limber dragon]

that 80c is a spike from loading chrome or something, not hovering at 80c

[ember marten]

also the 5800X tends to run pretty hot in general

[limber dragon]

this is an "idle" 5800x for the past 3 hours

[dusk vessel]

im having a bad experience with lag these days my cpu is at 68c even tho my motherboard is blinking RED meaning there's a problem that idont know

what should i check/how to know this issue is ?

please @ me if anyone available

[limber dragon]

check hwinfo and see if there's any flags going on

[burnt spear]

a 5800x on any ryzen stock cooler will get over 80c even in single core loads

[long yew]

can I get some recommendations for a good budget motherboard for intel 10th gen?

[ember marten]

Which CPU exactly. Because you can go pretty cheap with a locked part, but a 10900k needs more... Sauce

[cerulean wadi]

K model, z490/z590 of some sort. not K model, then there's way too many options without you actually giving some "wants", and budget.

[hollow thorn]

Avoid ASRock for z490/z590

[cerulean wadi]

Example of what $150 gets ya, if you actually need a Z series.

[long yew]

10105F

[cerulean wadi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#X=0,15000&s=39&L=4&sort=price&page=1

[cerulean wadi]

Really there's endless options since you have the easy 65w quad core. This MSI also has wifi builtin, in case that's wanted
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144397?Item=N82E16813144397

[long yew]

thank you

[dusk vessel]

i was waiting hours turns out no one didn't mention..

[limber dragon]

Habit of not being an annoyance from reply pinging

[limber dragon]

There's your issue bud

Hitting 90s and clocks drop frequency

[dusk vessel]

need to change cpu cooler ?

[limber dragon]

Need to mount it properly

Min temp of 74c is oof

[dusk vessel]

yah they didn't put it properly

also its a cheap air cooler

[hearty gust]

going try a down grade what the lowe bios i can use for 9700k on this bord https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z370 Pro4/index.asp#BIOS

see if that will fix the shut down

[scenic solar]

@long geyser you use many FPS boost mods on Minecraft right?
Can you tell me how much ram Minecraft uses @16chunk?

Because in my case it uses about 12gb RAM with bot @16chunk & @32chunk

[vernal cosmos]

not a thing

12gb total usage sure

only minecraft?

nah

unless many mods

[hearty gust]

what you think is this good deal for 65$ https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145048?Description=GIGABYTE Z370P D3&cm_re=GIGABYTE_Z370P D3-_-13-145-048-_-Product used

[hearty gust]

what you think

[scenic solar]

~10 FPS boost mods

[vernal cosmos]

ram usage =/= fps

[scenic solar]

No...
I mean I have around 10mods to boost FPS

[vernal cosmos]

thats all you need

[scenic solar]

I removed the ones I already have
But starlight is not compatible with phosphor... Right? I already have phosphor and I don't know if it is better

Btw I just wanted to know the RAM usage, I already have many mods for FPS boost
Because 12gb looks a lot

[vernal cosmos]

remove everything you have rn

and use the ones i sent

[scenic solar]

I probably don't need entity culling, you can find this setting with sodium extra

That doesn't render entities that are not visible

[vast meadow]

Only if you have a 8th gen or 9th gen and they'll update the bios for you and don't gave a motherboard for it already

[hearty gust]

ok

going use a 9700k in it

[burnt spear]

I've allowed modded mc to use up to 10gb, on crazy craft, only when loading a new dimension did it hit over 8

[vernal cosmos]

Ive hit 10gb used in vanilla tbf

It was a 6gb world tho

[burnt spear]

Completely unrelated

Is powerspec reliable?

[rocky beacon]

It's Micro Center's brand

[burnt spear]

I'm gonna guess pretty decent then?

[vernal cosmos]

Never really heard too much but they look decent

[burnt spear]

10850k 3060 ti 32gb build on sale for 1500$

Should I post in tech deals?

[vernal cosmos]

I wouldnt

3060ti prebuilts are like 300 lessfor known good

[burnt spear]

From abs?

[vernal cosmos]

And microcenter isnt really comonplace

[vernal cosmos]

Yeh

[burnt spear]

I haven't seen any non open box for under 1400

[vernal cosmos]

Open box is fine

Still comes with returns and all that

[burnt spear]

No warrantee tho

Idc about open box

If I were to buy rn I'd buy one, other people don't like it though

[dim cloak]

Open box= Open Deals

[rocky beacon]

You still get a warranty with all the manufacturers of all the parts

[burnt spear]

Yeah true

[vernal cosmos]

Kinda a deal

But eh

[rocky beacon]

ABS has multiple brand new 3060 Ti systems for $1450 or less

[burnt spear]

If someone's doing smthn other than gaming that requires cpu, 50$ more isn't bad

[naive pendant]

Wow, the results are pretty impressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNIREPET80U&ab_channel=TechYESCity

Good to know what kind of performance my 1680v2 might be able to get

[long geyser]

Dont use more then 6GB on 20 chunks, iirc can stay at 6GB upto 32 chunks. At 64 chunks need 8GB and at 96 chunks need 12GB (tho, only 25 - 40 FPS at 96 chunks)

[long geyser]

EntityCulling mod works differently then Sodium entity culling. Sodium based culling only culls entites in chunks you cant view while the EntityCulling mod culls entities in viewable chunks but are obstructed by blocks.
Without shaders you wont notice a massive difference, but with shaders this can really help as entity rendering is very intensive

[hearty gust]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175113163186?nma=true&si=1M8m60P%252BMLN4uEMJ3QcNWZrClrs%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 won it

[grizzled bloom]

Ah, intel PGA. The good old days.

Very fast indeed, I'd easily pay twice that. Flagship killer.

[naive pendant]

facts.

[scenic solar]

Can you list the mods you use, so I can see if it makes difference compared to the ones I use

[hearty gust]

wait did i just get this bord for 100$ https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-005T-00011?Description=GIGABYTE Z370P D3&cm_re=GIGABYTE_Z370P D3-_-1HD-005T-00011-_-Product

[cyan tulip]

is a Gigabyte B560M DS3H V2 Motherboard, with i5 11400f and Kingston Fury Beast 1x16GB DDR4 3733Mhz a good combo? (cheapest 11th gen I can muster)

Thanks in advance

[dense frost]

i dont know much about motherboards, but that RAM is overkill. rather get 2x 8gb 3600 cl16 if you can

[cyan tulip]

@dense frost I can only get cl17 for the same price

and for $5 more I can get 2*8gb 3733hz 17cl (and its rgb)

[dense frost]

3733 is a waste, honestly

3600 c17 is ok

[cyan tulip]

ok thanks

[dense frost]

just make sure you get 2 sticks of 8gb, instead of 1 stick of 16

[cyan tulip]

@dense frost will do, thank you so much!

[dense frost]

pleasure

[long geyser]

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[naive pendant]

[dim cloak]

Oooo a xeon E5-1680V2

[naive pendant]

indeeed

[stone hatch]

wowowowo

[hearty gust]

hey when i get the gigabyte z370p d3 bord will i be able update with out a cpu sller state never did up date so no 9700k suport our will i need grab a cpu to update be for it will work

[dense frost]

please donwload the manual here:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z370P-D3-rev-10/support#support-manual

[hearty gust]

i did

so it will let you update with qflash

[dense frost]

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/updating-gigabyte-motherboard-bios-without-cpu.2280237/

looking here, seems you need q-flash plus to be able to update BIOS without a cpu and ram. sorry to say

[hearty gust]

what be a cheap cpu i can grab off ebay to flash with

[dense frost]

id imagine one of the celerons listed on the cpu support page

C4900 for example

[hearty gust]

lol ebay serch is being stupid just list a 486 lol

how about this cpu https://www.ebay.com/itm/185274475009?epid=2220945705&hash=item2b23382201:g:XFcAAOSwbTRh7J6x

this what come up 1st for C4900

[dense frost]

nah, the mobo doesnt support that porcessor

check here for options:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z370P-D3-rev-10/support#support-cpu

[hearty gust]

my 9700k list but it not going boot

dose that list imply i do not need update

[dense frost]

no, see it shows bios version on the far right?

[hearty gust]

oh ok

[dense frost]

and if your supplier siad they never updated the bios, its likely still on F4

[hearty gust]

ok

[dense frost]

my aplogies, G4900

[hearty gust]

is this the one https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-3220-Processor-BX80637i33220-Renewed/dp/B07PRPT1M4/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1Q1JJW9SIM5R5&keywords=G4900&qid=1643698166&s=electronics&sprefix=g4900%2Celectronics%2C125&sr=1-20

what deal if it will update

[dense frost]

wont work, thats a 3rd gen

[hearty gust]

man serch sucks

look like the Intel Pentium Gold G5400 will be it

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-G5400-Dual-core-Processor/dp/B07BKZTW72/ref=sr_1_4?crid=24GPR73BO2CXZ&keywords=Intel+Pentium+Gold+G5400&qid=1643698489&s=electronics&sprefix=intel+pentium+gold+g5400%2Celectronics%2C116&sr=1-4

serch seem show wrong cpu in amozn and ebay list tho

[dense frost]

that will work

[hearty gust]

ok good

if you find one cheap link it

i buy that one and do return affter im done 🙂

[dense frost]

sorry bud, I cant help with sourcig. im not in the US, so I dont get US listings

[hearty gust]

that ok

more help then my serch

[cerulean wadi]

Many "old" cpus are overpriced. I tried a few searches for ya on Ebay. Here's another couple to glass at. It's sad/funny that the low-tier (celeron) options are actually priced so high. @hearty gust

[hearty gust]

yea

dose suck

hey can you link me that one that 30$

it not showing up for me

such on amzon can be funny just like ebay lol

but on that i might keep the cpu and build another pc

lets be honest ebay is know to burry cheap listing

found it

had do it on phone

im going try some buy it noe message seller and ask if i can buy and do return and pay thim cost to use it

[devout moth]

bunnytv#1518 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hearty gust]

some those shiping price our varry sus

lol 20$

so scummy

[cerulean wadi]

$20 shipping is so they make extra money. Would barely cost $14 to ship a whole mobo, and that's if it's packed good in a bigger box.

[hearty gust]

yea

they can get in truble for it too

i think my best price was the amzon link

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Intel+Pentium+Gold+G5400&i=electronics&s=price-asc-rank&crid=24GPR73BO2CXZ&qid=1643698481&sprefix=intel+pentium+gold+g5400%2Celectronics%2C116&ref=sr_st_price-asc-rank

[hearty gust]

thank for the help @cerulean wadi

i got the bord for realy good deal so i think i buy cpu on amzon so can return it esy will then cost me nothing to update

going link it @cerulean wadi https://www.ebay.com/itm/175113163186?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 just make sure it right cpu

[rancid harness]

Hi, currently using Ryzen 5 2600 with a 1070Ti and plays apex

will it be worth upgrading to r5 5600x

[vast meadow]

What resolution and detail quality?

[rancid harness]

1080p 144fps

i have troubles maintaing 144 currently

[vast meadow]

Yeah but like low, high, medium?

[rancid harness]

all low

even with shadows off in the configs

[vast meadow]

What ram do you have?

[rancid harness]

ive forgotten the timings but its a 16gb 3000mhz g skills trident z

if im not wrong

[vast meadow]

And do you have xmp enabled?

[rancid harness]

i think my mobo has issues with xmp, ASROCK b450m pro4

i forgot what but it had issues when i tried it previously

[vast meadow]

Hmm

You have your sticks in slots 2 and 4 if you count from left to right?

[rancid harness]

yeah

most likely will change to a b550 board if i do upgrade

im just not exactly sure if its worth the money upgrading it

and how much better my game will run

[vast meadow]

If you don't have xmp enabled that's gonna be a large factor, so i would see if you can enable xmp, if you can't I'd recommend try updating the bios

[rancid harness]

if i remember correctly, if i enabled xmp it runs at like 2133mhz

[vast meadow]

Just try it again

[rancid harness]

i really cant be bothered with touching the settings already hahaha

i just need to know if there will be noticeable performance diff from 2600 to 5600x

[burnt spear]

Right now it's better to get 12400f and b660 if you're switching boards, id listen to pato first tho

5600x is 260$ (on sale) and slightly loses to 12400f

12400f is 180$

[vast meadow]

No need to switch boards if they were going 5600x

[burnt spear]

They said they were planning on it

So I was saying if they are it's not worth it

[vast meadow]

Yeah b450 pro4 is perfectly fine for a 5600x

[rancid harness]

but the board needs a bio update right

is it really better to just keep it instead of changing it

sorry i havent really touched much of these stuff since i built my pc in 2018

[burnt spear]

As long as it isn't a cheap mobo it'll be fine, 5600x is a low tdp chip

Idk much about that specific model but I trust pato 100% when it comes to these things

[vast meadow]

Yep

[vast meadow]

If you were to, yes no need to change it

[rancid harness]

but the issue with the XMP, should i attempt to update the bios and retry it?

i dont think my ram is on the QVL list so would that affect anything

[burnt spear]

What brand is the ram

Would it happen to be corsair

[rancid harness]

g.skills trident z iirc

forgot the timings exactly

[burnt spear]

Ah

Nvm then

I had trouble running xmp before I updated my bios

So worth a shot

[rancid harness]

could the XMP issue be something to do with the CPU?

[cursive epoch]

no

it's very rare

it's always either the kit itself or the mobo

[rancid harness]

do i just update BIOs to the latest?

[cursive epoch]

it could fix it

wouldn't hurt doing that

[rancid harness]

r5 2600 is pinnacle ridge right

[hollow thorn]

Yes

[rancid harness]

ive found the ram specs

F4-3200C16D-16GTZN

[vast meadow]

Qvl basically means nothing

[vast meadow]

3200 might be the problem with your 2600, try turning on xmp but changing the frequency to 3000 instead of 3200

[rancid harness]

i am currently running at 3000

let me check my bios

sorry for the mis info, haven't been to bios for a while

[dense frost]

its weird that yo uhave selected profile 1, but the frequency is at 3133

[rancid harness]

i think i manually changed it to 3133

3200 couldnt work properly IIRC

booted 2666mhz

or 2133

[dense frost]

2666 is the default, yeh

[rancid harness]

got a deal for 5600x at 260 usd

i could keep my pro4 like pato said

[dense frost]

yup

[burnt spear]

yeah not bad

[vast meadow]

Tbh you might be better off with 3000mhz because of 3133 being odd

[rancid harness]

so should i change to 3000 or keep it at 3133

cause ive been using 3133 for about 6 months

[burnt spear]

3000 might be better

2000 series isnt the best at higher speeds often

[dense frost]

so just read something, on Ryzen 1 and 2, infinity fabric is locked to half of RAM speed. so as it sits your IF is trying to be 1566.5mhz

put your ram to 3000, it might be more stable

[rancid harness]

so all I do is just go to BIOs and change it to 3000

[vast meadow]

Yeah have xmp on but run it at 3000mhz instead of 3200

[rancid harness]

will do so

also just bought the 5600x

[vast meadow]

After you get the 5600x installed you can run it at 3200mhz

[rancid harness]

yup okay

just hope I update the bios correctly lol

[vast meadow]

It's pretty simple tbf

[shy wyvern]

I wonder if I'd get banned for talking about the GN mobo video that went up today XD

[naive pendant]

probably not

[grizzled bloom]

Nope

Mods aren't employees, this should be talked about, and we're not supporting censoring competing views

[dull flint]

That vid made me go check the unify X I just bought off there in a panic. I haven't been able to set it up yet but didn't want to miss the return window if there was clear damage

[tall iron]

does anyone know what the normal usage for a i5 9600k is cuz ive been having it spike up to almost 100 when im playing games

[dull flint]

Always been in the back of my head since it turned up

[vast meadow]

100c or 100%? 100% is fine... 100c is not good

[tall iron]

100% usage

[vast meadow]

That's fine

Sounds about right for a 6 core 6 thread chip

[tall iron]

oh ok, its just ive tried recording videos and noticed that the game runs on lower frames

when in recording

[vast meadow]

If you have an nvidia gpu make sure the software your using is using nvenc not h264 encoding

[tall iron]

ok thanks, i was just worried something went wrong cuz i have a friend saying that it was not normal to have my cpu run almost at 100% usage while playing games

[hollow thorn]

Really really depends

And since 6c6t really doesn't have many threads, it's not hard to use all of the threads

[tall iron]

ahh

ok well thank you for the help much appreciated

[vast meadow]

Np :>

[honest rock]

How do I know if all of my parts are compatible? I ordered them all and now I'm afraid things aren't going to fit.

[stuck trout]

pcpartpicker

[frosty bronze]

probably don't buy from newegg is a good way lol

[honest rock]

What's wrong with newegg??

[frosty bronze]

you buy a part, they fake damage on an rma and take your money

[hollow thorn]

Controversy about RMA fraud

[hollow thorn]

Pcpp tends to be useful, just paste what you have if you want some more opinions on it

[frosty bronze]

not really controversy so much as newegg trying to cover up the fact that they ignore their customers, but pc part picker is pretty good for compatibility

such as when I built my pc I used a 400w psu