cpus-mobo-and-memory

[naive pendant]

I can’t up any higher than 3.9 but I can set it to that on all cores

[cerulean wadi]

If so, try it for sure

[naive pendant]

Feck it I’m thinking try it, and if it doesn’t work it doesn’t work

My old 4th gen could hit 4.6 on all cores no problems lmfao

Well I say “could”

It still can and will be

[cerulean wadi]

Ya have the wrong mobo for a K series.

[naive pendant]

I figured

Oh well

I’ll upgrade in the future:

I got an M-ATX by mistake

I wanna go for a full ATX cos my case can take it and more IO yes pls

[cerulean wadi]

I always get a Z series even if I've used a non-K cpu lol.

[naive pendant]

You see this isn’t even something I knew about until today

I thought it was ”mmmmmm CPU in mobo yes” and that’s all there was to it

[cerulean wadi]

Many don't. Often times a z270 or w/e would be much more expensive.

[naive pendant]

Oh manufacturers why must you hurt us in this way

[cerulean wadi]

15 year old thing. They say lack of research isn't their problem.

[naive pendant]

Hey I did research but it’s not something gigabyte exactly put on their website lmfao

“Don’t buy this board cos you can’t overclock even though we allow overclocking on the bios settings”

I’ve already been shafted by a company today

Bought a DDR4 4GB RAM stick and it was DOA

The cashier in the shop looked me in the feckin eyes and said “All our products are tested and function before they hit the shelf, ma’am”

Put it in my PC, no boot. Took it out, booted up, put it back in, no boot. Not even a POST.

I swear imma sue them for emotional distress

I’d just added a GTX 1070 to the PC at the same time and almost had heart failure when it didn’t boot up

Life flashed before my eyes

It was quite boring tbh

Need to go out more often

[cerulean wadi]

True, it's in fine print somewhere lol. I did the opposite 2 times though. P45 & this z77 w/ a non K cpu. Idc, decent mobo is important since it holds everything

[naive pendant]

Yeah

Well I’m gonna go turn my server on so I’ll see y’all later

[warm bolt]

Alright question again about my pc running like trash.

So like right now my game is running like it is being throttled but only using like 15% cpu and 50% memory or so.

Kept jumping back up but that is what the first few cores show is that they are being utilized but then these cores are just like idle. So it must be because of the scheduler right?

As for what I am running is really not too much that should be too intensive for a 12 core cpu. 12700k. Like Call of duty: Cold war is open in the background and 3 tabs of edge but not much.

But even when my game isn't running it is like being throttled sometimes.

[dawn vine]

Would the Ryzen 5 3600 be the best cpu to get for $200? I know it was when it first came out but I don't know much about latest Intel stuff in comparison. Intell has so many CPUs it breaks my brain 🙃

[vast meadow]

Noo, i5 10400/11400 would be with a b560 motherboard, if you wait another week or 2 tho, i5 12400 is out you just need to wait until b660/h670 boards come out, then 12400 with b660/h670 will be the best

[dawn vine]

Cool cool! It's no rush, I have my own computer but I'm looking into a good budget build for a friend who currently uses a laptop for everything.

[vast meadow]

Yeah I'd definitely go i5 12400 +b660/h670 + 3600mhz cl16 ram

[dawn vine]

Beautiful, thank you!

[vast meadow]

Np

[warm bolt]

Alright I made a reddit post with benchmarks and imgurs attached if anyone has any idea how to fix this issue here is the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/rxrssj/12700k_not_running_as_expected/

[main pulsar]

windows 10?

[warm bolt]

Yeah

[main pulsar]

theres your issue

[warm bolt]

W10 Pro

[main pulsar]

you need to use win 11

or

wait a year or so for ms to update the win 10 thread scheduler

[warm bolt]

Wow..

[main pulsar]

or

disable E cores

in bios

i would start there

see how it behaves

[warm bolt]

Honestly yeah I don't know much but it seems like a scheduler/ecore issue so I might just do that.

[main pulsar]

also why would you run UBM

[warm bolt]

I honestly only really need the 8 cores most of the time anyway for pretty much all I do.

[main pulsar]

also why would you run it with a game running in the background?

[warm bolt]

That's what the guy in the comments linked me to run a benchmark.

Because it's having most of the issue with the game running.

[main pulsar]

well ignore him

[warm bolt]

It's only using like 2-4 cores at 100% with the game running while several cores are idle.

[main pulsar]

thats normal for like, almost every game in existence

very few games are properly multithreaded

[warm bolt]

So my pc will always just run like doo doo with a game? Because I am pretty sure other peoples pcs run a lot better than mine does with game.

[main pulsar]

no you need to stop the game fron running on your E cores

[warm bolt]

Think it's the scheduler. Cause it's really bad.

[main pulsar]

like i said

[warm bolt]

Yeah

[main pulsar]

disable E cores for now

test a few games

compare results

[warm bolt]

I mean I could upgrade to W11 if possible soon but it's not giving me the option even though it says my parts are compatible.

[main pulsar]

just make sure you know what the issue is beforehand

[warm bolt]

Tru

Would W11 upgrade give me pro since I have W10 pro?

I mean I would assume so but don't want to lose it.

[grizzled bloom]

Yes, it won't downgrade your license

[warm bolt]

Disabled the ecores and it might have helped a bit but my pc is still running pretty slow. My HWMonitor honestly doesn't really even look any different.

[cerulean wadi]

Cinebench & cpu test of 3dmark would show us better than a random game.

[velvet terrace]

does anyone know where to get ddr5 memory for under 400?

[vast meadow]

Get good ddr4 instead

[dense frost]

yes, you can get it in 2025

[golden pike]

@vast meadow hey old friend pato :^)

Im back again

I was wondering

Is it normally possible to be able to run ram over the speeds they are labelled?

Rmr i am running under the advertised amount and still overclocking

But i decided to order different ram

Bc idk if you remember but i said that my ram was 2 kits of 64

I didnt know you shouldnt do that

And my boot times have gotten super super slow

For a very fast computer the boot and shutdown times are ridiculous

So i decided i will go 3600mhz 16CAS like you recommended, in a 4x32gb kit.

Im wondering if you think itd be possible to OC that mhz, and if you think that will improve my boot times? Thats what a friend of mine told me

And my boot was sorta slow on my old rig too

Which was two sets of 32 lol

But now its even slower

So i think my friend is right

My bootdrive is a brand new samsung pro

2 tb

So def not that causing my boot slowness

Ping me when you see this if you can , youre a legend

[vast meadow]

If you loosen the other timings too you can

[vast meadow]

Why?

[golden pike]

slow boot times

D:

and slow shut downs

its weird

then I startedf looking at trident z royals and fell in love so i pulled the trigger

Trident Z Royal DR4-3600 MHz CL16-22-22-42 1.45 V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB)

[burnt spear]

i dont think boot times have to do with ram

more so ssd/hdd

[golden pike]

"Could be the memory controller overloading issue I told you about earlier. Since I believe you told me you did buy two separate 32gb kits to get 128gbs of ram, instead of a single kit of 4 ?
512bit is twice that of 256bits your cpus memory controller is able to handle"

thats wat my friend said

[vernal cosmos]

Am i a dumdum or is his friend consumed many mushrooms

[vast meadow]

Sincerely they're talking a load of crap

That made no sense

[golden pike]

idk what any of it means

but i liked the trident z royals and learned more about latency and wanted less latency like you said is better ANNNNNND well my cpu is hitting like 80-85 when it shouldnt be

bc overclocking most likely

but i might repaste

[vast meadow]

Honestly your problem is probably fast boot being enabled

[golden pike]

he also said to try that

however in regards to pasting

[vernal cosmos]

Or startup apps

[golden pike]

I have used stock corsair paste before and didnt work well for me

repasted and did well

so i might do that again

[grizzled bloom]

Royals are cool if you like the look, but that's all you're paying for. Everything else about them is average for their spec.

[vast meadow]

On ryzen frequency at 3733 and cl18 which you had, 3600cl16 will probably be a downgrade because of the infinity fabric

[golden pike]

and yes, startup apps

[vernal cosmos]

What cooler u got on that cpu

And what cpu

[vast meadow]

5950x iirc

[golden pike]

5950x and h150i

[golden pike]

itS a doWngrAde?

[vernal cosmos]

Get an arctic freezer 360mm

[vast meadow]

Probably more of a sidegrade

[vernal cosmos]

Nah

[vast meadow]

Corsair make meh aios

[vernal cosmos]

3600c16 better

[vast meadow]

Not when both at 22 22 42?

[golden pike]

yes thats what u said before pato, is it different bc im running 128?

[vernal cosmos]

Even then im pretty sure

[sturdy spear]

I unplugged my computer and cleaned it with an air can.

Put everything back and now my speakers don't work in the back audio slot

they however work in the front audio slot and I even plugged them into my phone and they work

Is the back audio port on my motherboard fried?

[grizzled bloom]

More memory is harder on the memory controller and can limit the max speed/latency you can run

[vast meadow]

Ehhh fclk downgrades tho

[vernal cosmos]

Very slightly... The cas latency bump up is much more significant here

[grizzled bloom]

It's not that huge for fclk. And if it's even slightly unstable with corrected errors, it can be better lower.

[vast meadow]

It was stable what they had

3733c18

[golden pike]

yall reckon i should cancel my order then?

keep in mind my current ram is 2 sets of 32gb

x2

like

128

[vast meadow]

I would personally especially since you probs cant return your old ram

[golden pike]

can

[vernal cosmos]

1st question that arises is do u need 128gb ram

[golden pike]

yes

[grizzled bloom]

Latency is still #1 over fclk.

[vast meadow]

I suppose but still not worth the money to change

[grizzled bloom]

3200c14 is still better than 3600c18 by a wide margin

[vast meadow]

Unless they can return ram

[golden pike]

i can return the current ram for full refun

d

[vernal cosmos]

3600c16 is about as good as 3800c18 iirc

[grizzled bloom]

True. If it can be returned swapping is fine but not really worth the 5% improvement or w/e to buy a lower latency set.

[golden pike]

but id also like to stop oc cpu

it gets hot in my lil desk corner :D

[grizzled bloom]

Manual oc or pbo?

[golden pike]

manual

more like Pato-ual

its so pretty thoughhh!

@vast meadow but do u not think having 1 kit of 4 sticks will help?

[grizzled bloom]

I'm sure pato warned you that manual oc isn't as good as pbo for anything that uses less than half your threads

[vast meadow]

Uhh not really i just helped with the ram stability 😅

[golden pike]

well only adjusting vsoc

[vast meadow]

Tbf they're using the full cpu

[vast meadow]

That was just to get your ram stable

[golden pike]

yep

thats all i got goin

on

[vast meadow]

Ehh only advantage to that is not having to run a memtest

[grizzled bloom]

If the full cpu is being used, then you can drop a lot of heat by just lowering 100mhz and dropping voltage until it isn't stable.

Easy 5-10 degree savings

[golden pike]

hmm

interestingh

not sure is i should cancel my order then

but i am confused

cuz i rmr pato saying it was a no brainer

3600 16

vs like

i think it was 3800 18?

i asked about that i think

haha

[vernal cosmos]

Cancel the order and buy an arctic freezer 360mm if at all u want something to help

[grizzled bloom]

Memory really shouldn't be affecting boot unless it destabilized, and that's the main issue right?

[golden pike]

yes

do u know where fast boot is in asus

[vast meadow]

They ran tm5 extreme anta so and it was fine

[golden pike]

imma try turning that off

[vast meadow]

It's a Windows settings iirc

[golden pike]

oh snap

[grizzled bloom]

So then it really comes down to if you like the look of the royals enough to pay extra and return your current kit

Performance difference will be minimal between 3733c17 and 3600c16

[golden pike]

and having 2 kits of 2x32 vs 4x32 wouldnt make a difference?

[vast meadow]

Not aslong as both are stable

[vernal cosmos]

Die mixing can cause issues even if stable tbf but ur probably fine

[grizzled bloom]

If they're the same die, then mixed kit that's stable is perfectly fine.

[golden pike]

man i trust yall way more the other guy i was getting info from made it seem like it was some huge issue

and ive done it

so many times

in many many peoples computers

so what your saying makes way more sense

i turned off fast startup in windows

ill try now

[grizzled bloom]

And yes, you can end up with 2 different dies even if you buy 2 identical sets.

I'm assuming @vast meadow checked your dies as one of the first steps for stabilizing

[vast meadow]

Tbh i can't remember

[grizzled bloom]

You're usually pretty good about stuff like that so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

[vast meadow]

Thanks lol

In fairness i wasn't fully online

More just helping in between stuff

So could have missed it

[golden pike]

Shutdown time^

Startup time^

From pressing power to the windows sign in screen

[vernal cosmos]

oh wow thats really a lot

[golden pike]

Thats like 🤢

[vernal cosmos]

ok open task manager

[vernal cosmos]

show me the number top right

[golden pike]

im aware these will make it longer

[vernal cosmos]

that says bios time

[golden pike]

oh

30.1

second

Ive never seen that before actually

[vernal cosmos]

hmmm

have you tried updating motherboard bios

[golden pike]

i havent

mobo brand new

[vernal cosmos]

also do u have hard drives in the pc?

or is it all ssd?

[golden pike]

I do

2 of them

but they been in before this rig

and it was always slow ish but its like doubled

[vernal cosmos]

ok can you press the windows key + R at the same time and type in diskmgmt.msc and hit enter?

[vast meadow]

What ssd you got btw?

[golden pike]

Samsung pro

for my os

[vast meadow]

980 pro?

[golden pike]

2 tb

yep

[vernal cosmos]

no ssd explains a 50 second boot time

[golden pike]

I have ssd

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

[vernal cosmos]

do dis

[vast meadow]

You mean not all ssd?

[vast meadow]

Ohh

[golden pike]

lol

[vast meadow]

You're saying it would lol yeah

[golden pike]

is it my obscene amount of drives

D;

[vernal cosmos]

check and make sure that the drive with windows is ur ssd here

also what motherboard you got?

[golden pike]

Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme

[golden pike]

im positive it is

[vernal cosmos]

just check once

cant hurt

[vernal cosmos]

ok you know how to do a bios update?

[golden pike]

how do u want me to check it sir ?

yes i can bios update

lemme see if there's one available

[vernal cosmos]

select the c: in the list u showed

thatll take u to boot drive

right click there

on ur drive

properties

on the popup it opens you should see ur drive name here

make sure its a samsung drive

[golden pike]

yee

i am so appreciate of yall helping me n stuff btw

at the same time though i build pc's all the time

im just not super into random parts of it

[vernal cosmos]

ok cool that rules that out

[devout moth]

Tozo#5678 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[golden pike]

oh darn my mistake

sorry wegg bot!

[vernal cosmos]

ive just seen windows be dumb and install itself onto random drives in the system if u arent careful

[golden pike]

interesting

never heard of that

gonna check for a bios update

been meaning to do that

[vernal cosmos]

you really have to make sure you select the proper drive

since it doesnt tell you proper names

so its a common mistake

[burnt spear]

outta curiosity rawr

completely unrelated

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

[burnt spear]

is there any point to updating bios if no issues are present?

[vernal cosmos]

yeah

[golden pike]

what is Bios RENAMER lol

like why

[burnt spear]

alr ill have to check for an update then, havent checked since i set my ram to xmp like 8 months ago

[vernal cosmos]

theres constant security and stability patches being rolled out

for the bios

[grizzled bloom]

If you're using the flashback feature it's going to look for a specific file name. That changes the file name.

[golden pike]

actually genius

wow

Alrighty going to go ahead and do this

Also

I got the new ram from prime

Free returns

So imma wait till it comes in

Compare times with everything

Test both sets

And whichever is better to me imma keep that one

:)

Im a sucker for good looks too

[vernal cosmos]

makes sense

[golden pike]

Lol

[vernal cosmos]

i too am prone to buying stuff because look nice

[golden pike]

Like this whole build is an aesthetic build haha im already so far deep into it ;-;

My last one was nice too though!

The extreme has a lil display that shows temps and stuff

Its so sweet

Also tells you exactly whats wrong if you cant boot

Really love this board so far

[vernal cosmos]

its great yeah

you know what would make it better?

[golden pike]

The engineers not being stupid as hell and putting ports behind the gpu

But what else?

Oof i keep forgetting i cant curse im sorry lol

[vast meadow]

Huh?

[golden pike]

I was replying to rawr's question

[vernal cosmos]

ASUS COUGHING UP A LITTLE TINY AMOUNT OF MONEY TO CALL IT XMP AND NOT DOCP ON A FREAKING 700$ MOTHERBOARD.

Thats what would make it better

[golden pike]

Lmfaoo

Its definitely still docp

They a bunch of weirdos

Just brought me do the normal failed to post screen but just said press f1 to recover bios or somethin weird

Fun fun fun

Windows here we go

[vast meadow]

No i mean why and how would they do that

[golden pike]

BEATS ME dude

Its the usb 3.2 gen 2

Type e connector

[vast meadow]

Ahhh a header

Weird place lol

[golden pike]

Straight up right behind my gpu

Its a big gpu but still

The header is mounted 0 degrees

So its like impossible to use

[cerulean wadi]

Lately I was staring at the Win 10 spinning white dots for a good 20+ seconds but its fixed when I reset bios settings 😅. Either it was fast boot or some ram setting was set incorrectly. Back to seeing desktop in under 15 seconds

[golden pike]

Okay after i did that

Shutdown time from 47 > 10 seconds

Startup from 1:13 > 1:03

[vernal cosmos]

ok new plan

[golden pike]

Bios time: 30.1 > 29.2

[vernal cosmos]

press windows key and type in power plan

[vast meadow]

That's a lot better shutdown anyway

[vernal cosmos]

click choose power plan

click choose what the buttons do on the left side

click change settings that are currently unavailable

and make sure fast startup is off

[golden pike]

Turn on fast startup off?

Did that earlier

I thought thats what fast boot is

[vernal cosmos]

its off then?

[golden pike]

Yes

Off

[vernal cosmos]

Oh thats not fast boot

[golden pike]

Oh

[vernal cosmos]

fast boot is a bios setting

[golden pike]

Ah okay

Back to@bios

Gotta do my ram stuff again

But i found fast boot and turned it off

okay

everything tuned and pc on

lets see

Same exact as previous

Its like

The monitor doesnt even turn on till 20 seconds in

[grizzled bloom]

Sometimes bios will only show through hdmi and not dp

[golden pike]

ahhh okay

[devout moth]

Doeva#0635 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Doeva#0635 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[scenic solar]

Best CPUs to combine with GTX1070?
Since I need a new CPU I wanted to know what's the best CPU whit a decent price
Is R5 3600 good? 3600x/xt?
Consider bottlenecks

[vast meadow]

Really? You think it would on a 700$ mobo lmao, I've always used DP and never had an issue unless i had the monitor turned off and then try to turn on when in bios

[vast meadow]

2600x is fine for a 1070, unless you get a really good deal on a 3600(x/xt) all within margin of error for used, less than like $/€150 only upgrade worth making is 5600x really due to the price

[grizzled bloom]

It's more about the video card than the mobo. Some of them need a vbios update to fix that, others have no fix.

[scenic solar]

I found 3600/3600x for 130-150€

[vast meadow]

Interesting that's odd, I'd assume they have a good gpu anyway lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯ considering the rest of their rig

[vast meadow]

That's ntb, personally I'd save up for a 5600x especially with the prices dropping soon due to 12th gen release

[grizzled bloom]

"Good" is irrelevant here. If it's a model affected by the bug, there's no real way around it.

It's popped up more in 30 series cards lately

[vast meadow]

I suppose lol

[scenic solar]

Not really... R5 5600x is still 290€+ used

[vast meadow]

Soon

[grizzled bloom]

Once 12400 and B660 hit the shelves, 5600X should go down

Next gen amd should have more details announced around then too

[scenic solar]

I thought it was an expensive upgrade because I thought I had to sell the arctic freezer 34 eSports duo since 5600x is really hot but actually is not that bad

Btw I will wait

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah 5600X is a 65W processor, heat isn't an issue

[vast meadow]

5600x would be fine with a freezer 34

[scenic solar]

I will still buy the 3600/X and then later upgrade it

[scenic solar]

62°c under load, I watched a benchmark

[vast meadow]

Well too hot for stock cooler but yeah a 25$ cooler will do

[scenic solar]

I thought worse

[vast meadow]

That's pretty chilly for a ryzen 5000

[scenic solar]

A friend of mine has the 5600x with stock cooler and It goes up to 87°c

[vast meadow]

Not worth doing imo, either go straight to 5600x or go to 3600(x) which won't last as long imo you'd be better off buying a 14400 or 8600x or whatever the new competitor is at that point

[scenic solar]

But I sold my old CPU and I need a new one...

Are you sure 5600x won't bottleneck with the 1070

?

[grizzled bloom]

5600X won't bottleneck any modern gpu

[vast meadow]

Ohh well then

Also if anything the 1070 would be the one bottlenecking

And don't worry about bottlenecks really

[scenic solar]

(I'm not upgrading my 1070 until prices go down)

[grizzled bloom]

You could do a 5600X + 3090 ti and unless you're playing at 1080p low the gpu will be pegged

[cerulean wadi]

Slight difference between bottleneck and simply getting 5fps less average VS another cpu 👍

[vast meadow]

The way bottlenecks work is if a 3600 for example isn't going to bottleneck then a better cpu then the 3600, like the 5600x definitely won't bottleneck

[scenic solar]

Ooh okk

Let's wait for these prices to go down

Maybe I will get also a better GPU

Maybe a 2080

maybe

[cerulean wadi]

Same 😅

[grizzled bloom]

3070 ti isn't too hard to get (comparably)

[scenic solar]

1600€

[grizzled bloom]

That's scalper price though

[scenic solar]

Yeeeah

[grizzled bloom]

Retail is closer to 1000

[vast meadow]

Tbf mainland EU has stock just all/ most is in stock just bad prices

[scenic solar]

Base price should be 500? Right?

[vast meadow]

Yeah 3070(ti) should be pretty easy to get for 1k

[vast meadow]

Well that's founders edition it should be more like €550 if the shortage wasn't a thing

[grizzled bloom]

500 euros? No that's more like an average 3060

If you're lucky you can get a founders edition but they're very high demand

[scenic solar]

I like how GPU shortage influenced every other components on the market

[vast meadow]

Uhh not really

[hollow thorn]

ddr5 is special

[cerulean wadi]

This statement just shouldn't be a thing

[hollow thorn]

And it was a silicon shortage to begin with anyways

[grizzled bloom]

SSDs are still going down, cpu market isn't affected much, mobos are the same (except Z690)

[hollow thorn]

PSUs chillin

Cases are cases

Coolers are fine

Monitors doing fine

[scenic solar]

Yes but it looks like many sellers started selling products at higher prices after GPU shortage

[hollow thorn]

Does it really though

[grizzled bloom]

Depends where you look and when

[scenic solar]

Now I have to go
Goodnight

(For me)

[hollow thorn]

night

[vast meadow]

As a fellow EU person i can say that's wrong

[limpid gulch]

HELP

I GOT A NEW COOLER AND UH

MY PC IS SHIDING

THE FANS ARE GOING INSANE

[grizzled bloom]

Check you mounted the cooler right. It's probably either the bracket is on wrong or one side isn't tightened properly.

[limpid gulch]

hi so I just checked and I realized there's a bracket on the other side of the motherboard and I can't take off motherboards

I'm getting a friend to help me with it

[restive minnow]

Is this where I might be able to ask for some help? I'm really stuck

[vast meadow]

!ask

[devout moth]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[restive minnow]

I'm at my wits end. Here's the full deal:
Intel 12900K w/ NZXT Kraken Z53 AIO
Gigabyte Aorus Master Z690 mobo w/ 32GB Corsair DDR5 @4200#7532
EVGA 750W PSU in a Corsair 7000D case
NVIDIA GeForce 3800 Ti

I built this system. It wouldn't boot. The AIO comes on for a split second, but that's it. No fan spin, nothing. I press the power button on the board, no reaction.

• I replaced the motherboard with an MSI Z690 Carbon WiFi. No fan spin, and now the AIO doesn't even come on for a moment.
• I replaced the PSU with a Corsair RM750X PSU
• I replaced the motherboard with another Gigabyte Aorus Master Z690. I replace the 12900KH with a 12900K. I pull all the cables and recable everything
• I swapped the mid-sized case for this behemoth Corsair 7000D case in case it was a grounding issue
• I swapped the 3080 Ti for a 3080 for testing.

Now the AIO comes on for a split second, all the fans spin for a split second, but again...nothing. I cannot get this system to boot. I'll attach pictures

[vast meadow]

Well for one, you don't want to skimp out on the power supply like that, getting 750w on a buid that should be running 850w absolute min, really 1000w but that shouldn't stop you turning on, have you tried just 1 ram stick in each slot? Same with the other ram stick if that one doesn't eork?

Could also be faulty aio

[restive minnow]

Yep, I've tried with a single ram stick. Swapping the PSU wouldn't be that hard. I'll gladly stuff a 1000W in there if it fixes this issue

[vast meadow]

That won't stop it from turning on that's just a separate problem

[restive minnow]

I sincerely hope it's not the RAM given how hard it was to get DDR5

I mean, I think I've swapped everything else

[vast meadow]

Not the aio

[restive minnow]

I guess that's true too. I'd think it'd still post even without the AIO though, right?

throw me an error in the LED

[vast meadow]

Well if it's bad fan/pump and connected to cpu header on mobo probs not

[restive minnow]

Hmm. Any way to test that? Maybe disconnect the CPU pump lead?

(I don't have anything going to the CPU lead -- it's going to the CPU pump. Could that be it?)

I've been at this too long. Getting crosseyed

[vast meadow]

If you don't have anything on the cpu_fan header that might cause it ye

[restive minnow]

I'll give it a shot

no dice. Tried the CPU_fan header, tried disconnected entirely. Same.

I just don't know why the LED readout isn't giving me anything to go on

it makes it very hard to t/s

Gonna run to best buy and pick up a 1000W psu

brb

[hollow thorn]

Clear cmos between ram testing?

[exotic zealot]

how much ram speed is too much

[cerulean wadi]

You when accidentally go back in time, then your flux capacitor fries itself.

[cursive epoch]

it depends on your mobo or cpu

but there's no too high ram speed

it just depends on the support or imc's ability to handle it

[grizzled bloom]

Even on ryzen, if you go fast enough you can run infinity fabric desync and overcome the latency penalty

That's somewhere around 4800-5200 depending on other factors iirc

[cursive epoch]

ye

that's basically the problem

but it won't per say

kill the cpu

[celest anchor]

Usually quite a bit lower on the dual ccd chips

Those can see gains at like 4400

[mild jackal]

I saw gains with 32c TR at 4200+ vs 3800

Since uclk will run 1:2 dram with desync, you can run a lot of timings tighter than normal

[celest anchor]

Yeah TR is so inefficient that even 200mt/s over synced can be a positive

[mild jackal]

4467 4x8 beat out 4x16 4200 on the 32c for ycruncher, haven't tried 4x8 on the 64, but knocked off some time with per core oc earlier today https://i.imgur.com/Kgw7Vsw.png

[golden pike]

To the generous guys helping me earlier with my boot times, i decided to turn off things I wasnt using like wifi and bluetooth controllers. helped only slighlty

however

I started looking at my Mobo's oled display

and i notice it gets stuck on codes

cpu code 58
vga code 84

so im going to look into those

[grizzled bloom]

Probably just initialization codes. Unless it's staying on them for more than 5 seconds or so it's not an issue.

[golden pike]

i think it may be more than 5 but i will look into it

the 31 second "last bios time" just doesnt seem right

im gonna try unplugging my ext harddrive and see if that makes any difference

[grizzled bloom]

58 is reset usb bus and 84 is initialize gpu output

[golden pike]

interesting

i was just looking at the same thing

I dont think id be able to change anything about that

[grizzled bloom]

It's possible updating your gpu vbios could help it initialize faster. You could also try booting with just keyboard and mouse plugged into usb.

I know my pc takes longer to boot when I have my headset plugged in

But it's just going from 15 to 30 seconds so a minor inconvenience at worst

[golden pike]

ill try disconnecting stuff, that could totally be an issue

[devout moth]

Joeyツ#7760 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Joeyツ#7760 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[finite elm]

I dunno what i'm looking at

[cerulean wadi]

Almost single digit CL for a change.

[burnt spear]

apparently the 6800 series and the 6900 series have the same igpu

not sure as to the rest

[cerulean wadi]

riddle me this. I'm trying to figure out if I can get my E8400 Win7 rig to win10. I know drivers might be an issue so an "upgrade" instead of fresh install is the only attempt.

[burnt spear]

according to some benches the 6700g igpu beats 1050 ti

whatever igpu it has

i dont feel like putting the time into looking into it atm4

[vast meadow]

That name doesn't sound right?

6700h?

[vast meadow]

Why would you bother

[cerulean wadi]

security? still a decent spare pc for web browsing or youtube. I'm not the one using it any more, but if it gets a virus or w/e, oh well. No I wouldn't buy that 9650.

[cursive epoch]

6700u more like

[burnt spear]

that ^^

[grizzled bloom]

It's rdna2 based now instead of vega

[cursive epoch]

Radeon 680M

Definitely not confusing name

Add another 0 and it's 6800M

[burnt spear]

I know

I just don't know if they all have 680m or what

I've been following leaks since I first found they'd be apus lol

[cursive epoch]

Likely

[burnt spear]

6800 variants and 6900 variants do

Haven't seen anything about the rest

[finite elm]

I thought they only revealed the mobile ones? So U and H, or have they given more info about the am5 Apu's later on?

[vast meadow]

Yeah they did just do mobile, only released am5 socket confirmed and release date

[cursive epoch]

^

[burnt spear]

I wonder if am5 will have apus or if they'll wait till gen after that

[wheat salmon]

Probably a gen afterwards, alot of changes already with pcie5 & ddr5

But who knows

[vast meadow]

Well am5 will at least be 2 gens, they didn't promise anything but should at least have 1 set of apus

[finite elm]

eventually

[burnt spear]

That's what i meant, sorry. My brain is not working today

I meant 7000 series, i figured they'd have have an apu in one of them

[wispy estuary]

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-10700F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B086MN2XYL/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2KS9SHJEU42TB&keywords=i7%2B10700k&qid=1641686313&sprefix=i7%2B10%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-8&th=1

I'm wondering if I should get this cpu, idk what's the difference from the other ones

Some are 330+

[hollow thorn]

Right now, I would reccomend something more like 12600k and maybe 12400 depending on benches, just performance wise, take a look at a review from GN or other reputable reviewer like tpu and anandtech and such

[young cedar]

@wispy estuary wait until b660 are released and if they’re a good price go with the 12400 or 12600

That’s if b660 isn’t heavily overpriced and actually has stock

From a quick look, some b660 are gonna be £130 so idk what in us but that’s a good price here lol

[cerulean wadi]

10400 setup could be had pretty cheap, but now the 12400 or similar is the new go-to suggestion. If it wasn't such a pain, I'd instantly resell my 11gen stuff when i get it & go 12gen 😅

[wheat salmon]

tfw you use every single plug on your motherboard

[grizzled bloom]

Ooh that would be satisfying

[wheat salmon]

(i have 4 sata drives and 2x M.2) all usb headers filled, all rgb headers filled, all fan headers filled

only 2 slots for ram

[grizzled bloom]

PCI-e too or just all the headers used?

[wheat salmon]

itx so yes

[grizzled bloom]

Very nice. No waste.

[wheat salmon]

mhm

i am glad it worked out so well xD

i had to custom add a usb 3.2 gen 2 port onto the front to use up the header but worth it, might make a custom side panel for it later

i had an idea for making a cutout on the sidepanel so I can use M.2 Enclosures (that plug into usb-c) like old school console memory cartridges

[grizzled bloom]

That's why I like cases that still have an external 5.25" bay. You can convert it into whatever you need. Extra drives, usb ports, esata, audio or rgb control...

[wheat salmon]

mhm thats what im using rn

but i wanna downsize and custom the side of the case to use it like a retro cartridge

then i could store roms on it or something

[cerulean wadi]

I thought of having a disc drive in the bottom hidden by psu shield & a slot cut out of the side panel for it. 🤘

[oak prawn]

Can someone put a build together that costs 600$?

[wheat salmon]

including gpu?

@oak prawn

[oak prawn]

No

[wheat salmon]

oh thats alot easier then

any specific form factor?

[oak prawn]

No

[wheat salmon]

if you wait until the end of the month I could upgrade the cpu to a 12400F and the motherboard to a B660 but they are not available for sale yet. (would be the same cost but 2 gen newer cpu)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wrPgTJ $596 @oak prawn

what gpu do you have? that might change the psu

[oak prawn]

Can you do a ryzen build?

[wheat salmon]

sure. For low/mid end intel is the better deal though

[oak prawn]

Ok thanks

[cursive epoch]

ryzen build is gonna be more expensive

cause there's no r5 that's as cheap as 12400f

and 5600g will perform worse anyway

[wheat salmon]

sadly the B660 motherboards arent available for sale yet

thats why i said wait until end of the month

[oak prawn]

Oh

[wheat salmon]

rn i gave a build with a 10400 and B550

[cursive epoch]

that case is meh tbh

[wheat salmon]

eh he can pick whatever i just grabbed a random one

has like $80 to play with

[cursive epoch]

would do something like p400a

[wheat salmon]

cheapest AMD build i can make is $700 if I give a 5600X & A520 motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rJqBgt

but i would recommend waiting until the 12400F and B660 motherboards are purchasable, it will be worth the wait

[cursive epoch]

a520

oof

[wheat salmon]

only way to drop the price to $700

WAIT

pcpartpicker just isnt updated

is there anyway to add-in parts from url?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pYqBgt @cursive epoch @oak prawn need to select a case still, but the 12400F and the B660 motherboards can be purchased now

[cursive epoch]

you can edit the existing list

[wheat salmon]

fair, i had to login to force-add the motheboard

[burnt spear]

3200c16 better

[wheat salmon]

both have the same latency right?

how do you edit an existing list?

everytime i try to adjust it changes the link

[cursive epoch]

yeah the link changes automatically

[wheat salmon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RKLwt8 @burnt spear here ya go, its teh same latency as the other way thou

[vast meadow]

For the love of god don't put a 5600x on an a320

[vast meadow]

No it really ain't

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkMT4d

[vast meadow]

Ram overpriced, get some 3600cl16

[finite elm]

Someone put a 5950x on a a320 and hit 5ghz

[vast meadow]

On one core maybe

[finite elm]

Yea, on one

And it was just pbo, not a custom overclock

[vast meadow]

Lol

[viral marlin]

Question: I was looking at this mobo https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157908?Item=N82E16813157908&quicklink=truefor an i7 6700 but supported cpus are 9th and 8th gen, I was wondering if there is a chance it would still work anyway for that cpu seeing that it is 6th gen?

[grizzled bloom]

No, intel changes the physical socket so incompatible processors don't fit. Sometimes they change it for no reason too lol.

[viral marlin]

Ok thank you

[finite elm]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-worst-flagship-processor-Samsung-Exynos-2200-with-AMD-RDNA-2-GPU-gets-no-love-from-noted-leaker-in-deleted-tweets.591509.0.html

Oof

[main pulsar]

gpu 2 power hungry?

or just actually not that powerful lol

oh just leaks

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grizzled bloom]

Oh, just a phone processor

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[finite elm]

Lol

[cerulean wadi]

Anyone used aida lately? I wish the "built-in" comparisons were better. Still waiting on certain parts because Prime shipping apparently is 2 weeks instead of 2 days.

[vast meadow]

Only thing i use aida for is mem latency bench

[cerulean wadi]

Anyone want to post their latency whenever? 4x8GB of normal KHX1866 so I'm not gonna try too much just yet on this daily driver. No doubt 1866C10 is tame.

[cursive epoch]

https://youtu.be/2J0iP520WoY

12400 lookin good

around 5600x perf in games

except f1 2021 cause that game favors the 5600x

[dense frost]

Ryzen 5000 CPUs need price slashes

[cursive epoch]

it's faster than 5600x in rendering but who cares

cpu rendering is not faster than gpu

[burnt spear]

The 12100 is supposed to beat the 10400 in gaming

Which would be nice

Finally a new cpu for low budgets, just need a reasonably priced b660 to go with it

[vast meadow]

That's on a clean bench tho, i feel once it's cluttered with other stuff it will probs be closer imo

[cursive epoch]

^

4 cores can only do so much

[burnt spear]

True

Was thinking about that earlier, would be nice if they made an i3 with 4 performance cores and 2 ecores, but I doubt they will

Because then less people would buy the i5s

Well, the 6 core ones

[vast meadow]

Yeah would be nice

[regal lichen]

Hey guys does anyone what the differences between the Asus ROG Strix Z690-F and E model? Here's my build, i still haven't decided if i want to stick with the Prime-A or go for the ROG strix mobo, last missing piece to my build Thanks! (I'm from Canada btw) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dYbVdD

[vast meadow]

I'd get this actually
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JJRYcf/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-elite-ax

[regal lichen]

Oh sorry forgot to mention because im trying to stick with Asus because of the stupid LGA 1700 bracket, still Lian Li AIO hasn't responded

and it directs me to order from Aliexpress for it which will take 1 month or more....

[vast meadow]

Just as a temporary thing i assume because they aren't great

Then just get the prime A yeah

[cursive epoch]

by now lian li should have lga 1700 brackets in their stuff

[regal lichen]

yep no update since like December... only way is through Aliexpress right now... https://lian-li.com/lga1700-mounting-kit-announcement/ actually since November lol

[vast meadow]

That sucks

[cursive epoch]

oh

[vast meadow]

Should but dont lol

[regal lichen]

https://www.newegg.ca/lian-li-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-002Y-00002?Description=lian li galahad&cm_re=lian_li galahad-_-2YM-002Y-00002-_-Product

[vast meadow]

I would order it tho if you haven't tho, the asus adapters will work but are meh

[regal lichen]

still says will be abvailable late November.. no updates

[vast meadow]

Oh finally does now tho lol

[regal lichen]

But to my original question, whats the difference between the F and E model? I think i still want to stick to Asus might be quickest way for me at this rate.

[vast meadow]

Both are completely overpriced, not worth paying that much, prime a will be enough

[regal lichen]

well if money isnt the issue, why would one pay for the ROG strix over Prime A?

[vast meadow]

Pretty sure there's slightly better vrms but the prime a already has plenty, asus also charge extra for the rog branding as well as some extra overclocking features iirc

[regal lichen]

Strix tax like they say!!! lol ok thank you Prime A it is

[vast meadow]

Yup

[burnt spear]

Wait 12100 is 97$?

Nice

[grizzled nacelle]

Hey, kind of an aside type question. Where can you find anti-static bags for shipping?

[burnt spear]

Can prolly find them on amazon

I've never had to buy any but they're prolly on amazon

[vast meadow]

You selling an old gpu or something?

[grizzled nacelle]

I am trying to return a MoBo

[vast meadow]

Ahh, you can just ship it in the cardboard box if you through out the bag

[devout moth]

1cculus#4645 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grizzled nacelle]

Oh, sorry about that.

[grizzled nacelle]

Seems unkind considering it may be resold to someone else?

[vast meadow]

That's fair

But static isn't really an issue

And cardboard aint conductive so

[grizzled nacelle]

Dust, the anti-static is because bags are static-prone I imagine, but the bag is to protect against dust and other contaminants, no?

[vast meadow]

I mean the box will be closed, only thing you need to worry about stuff getting in is the socket which has a protective cover

[grizzled nacelle]

You're correct. Once I got it packaged up I realized how preposterous worrying about dust is. It is fully enclosed with a solid cardboard enclosure, in a box, inside another box, inside a shipping box that is taped shut.

[burnt spear]

sadge

remembrandt laptops are supposed to start being available in february

was hoping to order one by the end of january

[livid sparrow]

Don't forget to take pics of the mobo before shipping in case it gets damaged during shipping so you don't get flagged for misrepresenting dead or damaged products

[fiery kernel]

mfw integrated graphics are valued at 45 cents

[wheat salmon]

might as well keep them xD

[vast meadow]

Yeah tbh when/if i go intel I'm willing to pay like 30€ or so over f price for the igpu

Can be useful for troubleshooting

[dim cloak]

An igpu can be useful as well in case of a gpu issue that requires it to be put out for service or just want to do something and not use the gpu at that moment for what ever reason

[stark bobcat]

Using a igpu seems like torture better to lock ourselves out from it

[hoary echo]

would my fps increase if i got another 8gb ram (10300h rtx3060 no mux switch)?

[stark bobcat]

Not much if gpu bottlenecked

[vast meadow]

If you're running 8gb ram, yes

[cursive epoch]

why would 3060 bottleneck a 10300h?

but add more ram regardless

8 gigs is bad for gaming these days

[hoary echo]

im not gpu bottlenecked, im cpu bottlenecked rn

[hoary echo]

k is there any speeds/timings i should go for (i am on a budget of about $140 aud)

[cursive epoch]

just match your existing stick in speed and latency

if not just speed is fine

[hoary echo]

how do i find those timings

[cursive epoch]

well it's in cpu-z

[hoary echo]

oh i have that

i thought that was only for cpus lol

[cursive epoch]

it does display ram specs too, ya

[hoary echo]

so would i just look for an 8gb 2793 stick?

[cursive epoch]

uh

2800mhz? that's rare stuff for sodimm

just go 3200

[vast meadow]

Or more frequency if cheaper

[cursive epoch]

and it should slow down to match the stick

[hoary echo]

in task manager it says this

[cursive epoch]

ah so it's 3000

[vast meadow]

Probably supposed to be 2933 instead of 2926

[cursive epoch]

^

[vast meadow]

Get 2933 or anything more, whatever is cheaper

[cursive epoch]

ye

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/core-i5-12490f-outpaces-core-i5-12400f-15-percent-geekbench-benchmarks

oof

more cache so yeah

[vast meadow]

12490f how many skews they neeerd

[cursive epoch]

it's the i9 core cut down

[vast meadow]

Ahhh cache yeah, 12400 cache cutdown

[cursive epoch]

it has 20 mb of l3

12490f has no cooler tho

and is chinese exclusive

[stark bobcat]

Worthy upgrade over a 10400f?

[vast meadow]

Afaik they've always been cutdown i9's

[cursive epoch]

no

i wouldn't

just keep the 10400f

[vast meadow]

Depends on if you're cpu or gpu limited

I'd personally wait 13th gen tho

[cursive epoch]

12th gen needs new mobo

[vast meadow]

NOOOOO

[stark bobcat]

It's a 980ti soo you judge

[cursive epoch]

cause diff socket

[vast meadow]

Depends what you play

[cursive epoch]

eh it's about 200 bucks anyway

im not too sad lmao

[vast meadow]

12400f is 190

[cursive epoch]

the extra cache made price go up

[stark bobcat]

Graphics heavy games like metro exodus and cyberpunk 2077

[cursive epoch]

hm, well then

but you have to buy a cooler tho

that's the thing with 12490f

[vast meadow]

You just answered your own question lol

[cursive epoch]

it has more cache than 12500 tho

intel naming logic

[vast meadow]

Yes

[hoary echo]

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/memory/sodimm/93005-cmsx16gx4m2a3200c22?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8vSOBhCkARIsAGdp6RTDgkUm_n97WbJroEQiNEOPC0gQ1tZ9EzWoVDqGoxn6YAnxwbqvWvgaAv9CEALw_wcB

would this suffice?

[stark bobcat]

Good cpu coolers from Deepcool is dirt cheap

[vast meadow]

That's true

[cursive epoch]

that should do

[vast meadow]

If you already have 8gb just get another 8gb stick

[hoary echo]

thanks!!

[cursive epoch]

but doing like what pato told saves you cash

[hoary echo]

would it make much of a perf difference?

[cursive epoch]

eh no

the laptop will run at 2933 anyway

just get a 3200 8gb stick

[vast meadow]

No

[cursive epoch]

cheaper to buy one

instead of a kit

[hoary echo]

hmmm

the only ones i can find are kits or ddr3 rip

or 32gb single stick

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/memory/sodimm/81989-ct8g4sfs832a?gclid=Cj0KCQiA8vSOBhCkARIsAGdp6RSogfrIxotl3TZJNBvwzZxubMp8RSQ2QAhR96OsvVMR0OJ-GTL30lsaAsobEALw_wcB

[stark bobcat]

After 16gb it's diminishing results in games

[cursive epoch]

that stick should do

[hoary echo]

thanks, i will probably get that soon

[vast meadow]

why are you only looking at this site?

[hoary echo]

idk thats the only one i could find

[stark bobcat]

Maybe that's his local online store

[hoary echo]

and i cant use amazon

also i cant find better prices anywhere else

[vast meadow]

I'll have a look for ya see if i can find cheaper

[hoary echo]

cheers

[vast meadow]

You cant use Amazon?

[hoary echo]

yeah :/

[vast meadow]

Rip

looks like best option

[hoary echo]

ah oh well

its only 50 bucks

now i just need a monitor because my laptop doesnt have a mux switch

[dire tree]

CL22

😭

[hoary echo]

could be worse

[vast meadow]

laptops run jedec ram, 3200cl22 is the jedec

[cursive epoch]

^

[dire tree]

ik

It's sad

[hoary echo]

also how do i undervolt an h series cpu

because 84 degrees is not exactly nice to have on my legs

[cursive epoch]

10300h can't be undervolted

intel locked that

[hoary echo]

rip

that sucks

is there any other way to reduce temps?

[vast meadow]

You could try repaste

Or liquid metal instead of paste if you're brave enough

[dire tree]

Undervolt gpu

[hoary echo]

would that kill my warranty

[hoary echo]

my gpu isnt that hot

like 50 degrees

[dire tree]

Reduces temps throughout

It shares the same heatpipes

[vast meadow]

Depends on laptop, but it shouldn't

[cursive epoch]

you can undervolt it

but uving gpu is a pain

[hoary echo]

oh

[cursive epoch]

you have to adjust the curve

[hoary echo]

unfortunate

[cursive epoch]

which takes a lot of tuning

[hoary echo]

could i adjust fan curves?

[vast meadow]

Not too bad

[hoary echo]

or would that be hard

[vast meadow]

Only gpu afaik

[cursive epoch]

laptops can't do that

unless it's made with software or bios to do so

as in controlling the fans ofc

[hoary echo]

i can control the fans

via nitrosense

[vast meadow]

Your laptop fans? Oh nice

[hoary echo]

they can go up to 6000 rpm

if that helps

[vast meadow]

It probably would

Sheesh hope you got some good headphones

[hoary echo]

i have the hs45 by corsair

and i cant really hear the fans

[burnt spear]

Afaik a good few laptops past 16 series can adjust fans

A lot of lenovo laptops specifically I believe

[dull flicker]

Anybody use a b450 mobo with the Ryzen 5600g? Did you have any trouble with it?

[dire tree]

Depends on the bios

[tropic prism]

looking to upgrade my memory from 16gb 3200MHz to 32gb 3600MHz. is Neo Forza a brand worth considering or should i just pay a little extra and get either g.skill or crucial? and will a memory upgrade even actually improve anything significantly enough to warrant? particularly on the editing and multi-tasking/recording side of things

for reference, i use my PC for gaming, video capture/podcasting, and also do the video editing for said podcasting/video recordings.

CPU: Ryzen 5 5600x Mobo: asus prime x570-p GPU: AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 MASTER 8G

[vast meadow]

the thing that matters more is latencies , 3600cl18 at xmp would be a sidegrade, get 3600cl16 go onto pc part picker and sort low to high, 3600 cl16 ballistix is worth a bit more as you can overclock the snot out of them as well as having slightly better timings than other kits usually, avoid corsair tho

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

I'd get this kit if you're in the us

[tropic prism]

thank you for your input. currently i have the crucial ballistics 16gb (2x8gb) 3200MHz CL16 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BxTzK8/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k8g32c16u4b

[vast meadow]

nice kit of ram, currently have that and mine is oc'd to 3600cl14 so far

[tropic prism]

so do you think upgrading to 32gb 3600MHz would be worth it?

[vast meadow]

it depends, do you use almost all of your 16gb?

[tropic prism]

i'd have to check next time i'm editing/exporting i guess lol

[burnt spear]

As long as the bios work it'll be fine

For most b450s anyways

[dull flicker]

👍🏼

[static meadow]

Hello I'm new to pc gaming and got a laptop with a Intel i7 - 11800H CPU however it seems to quickly reach 90C+ when gaming. Is this normal?

[vernal cosmos]

yes

laptop moment

[tropic prism]

so i just re-exported my most recent video (about 20 minutes long with lots of cuts/edits in it) Task manager show me using only 10-15% CPU, 40-45% Memory, and 40-60% GPU. idk if theres even anything i could upgrade that would make a significant difference.

and thats without overclocking anything

[static meadow]

So they normally run that hot? Bad to game for longer periods of time at those temperatures?

[vernal cosmos]

laptop cpus are fine there

[vernal cosmos]

cuts and edits dont matter as much as effects and number and resolution of recordings btw

[static meadow]

Thanks thats a relief to know

[tropic prism]

good to know, thanks.
i rendered at 1080p. no special effects aside from some simple fades

we basically screen cap from discord using OBS streamlabs. then apply intro video and audio tracks. nothing fancy. that way we aren't trying to piece together multiple video feeds

[vast meadow]

Sounds like you don't need more ram to me

[tropic prism]

not sure if i should be happy or sad lol

[vast meadow]

Why lol?

[tropic prism]

cuz i want to buy pc parts to justify giving my nephew my old parts

[vast meadow]

I mean maybe try a run with more effects rather than cuts?

[hoary echo]

My laptop is like a frying pan

It actually heats up faster than my hotplate

[grizzled nacelle]

You sound like me.

[vague salmon]

I'm trying to find the right RAM for a Dell Inspiron i7706 (2 x 8GB DDR4 3200mhz), preferably Crucial, GSkill Ripjaws, or Kingston.

[scenic solar]

Should I buy a Ryzen 5 3600 with bent pins? It's 60€ and if I'm able to repair it it would have saved me 100€ for a working new one

I ask people that had experience repairing AMD processor's pins

[cursive epoch]

if it's not too bent

it wouldn't be too hard to fix

[scenic solar]

I already repaired pentium4 pins but I think they are much more "soft"

[livid sparrow]

As Foxy said, if they aren't too bent they shouldn't be too hard to fix, get a credit card or something with a firm straight-edge you can use to drag down the rows, maybe a pair of tweezer and a magnifying glass and you be good to go.

[hazy peak]

My abs gladiator does not have tpm 2.0? How to add it?

[vast meadow]

You just need to enable it in bios

[hazy peak]

i checked device manager it says not found

so it's just a bios thing?

[finite elm]

yes

[hazy peak]

Thanks

[cursive epoch]

am5 stuff

so the cpu's resistors really are gonna be on top? yikes

that's higher risk than intel's solution of putting resistors below the cpu

[vast meadow]

Never realised sodimm was so small lol

[vernal cosmos]

smh pato so dimm

jk sorry had to

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/akshay-smile-gif-20424323

[limber dragon]

Imo I'd avoid it because:

Someone kills cpu
Bends pins so they sell it as "parts" because of bent pins, with no returns

[devout moth]

Yasof#6850 has been warned

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Yasof#6850 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[cerulean wadi]

Laptop memory since like forever: "am i a joke to you"

[scenic solar]

Yeah, it also had about 80 bent pins

[vast meadow]

Hell no

[devout moth]

TheBagguette#6969 has been warned

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[wet wadi]

LSS, My refurbed replacement mobo from ASUS died on my 6th gen build. Now I'm playing catch up on with the current tech and avoid poor decisions on my new build. Any general pointers for an ASUS 32+ram, power to performance ratio minded, 6+SATA,quiet build? I'm just sifting and surfing through what fits my criteria and checks my boxes, while the supply chain and parts market keeps shifting on me. 😫

[vast meadow]

Country? budget? just cpu motherboard and ram you're looking for? For what use case?

[wet wadi]

US 1500 , any case suggestions as well. tx

perhaps a quiest case that hols 5+ 3.5 internal bays

[vast meadow]

For what use?

[wet wadi]

jack of all trades plus virtual drives

to justify the ram. 🙂

[vast meadow]

Huh?

Also what gpu you got? You can buy a 3060 ti prebuilt for 1500

[wet wadi]

asus 1070 ti turbo

[vast meadow]

Not too bad, wouldn't spend more than like 600$ ish for cpu mobo ram, 100$ for case i guess but keep rest for gpu later on

[wet wadi]

my target was $600 for cpu mobo and the best 64 or 32 ram deal .

[vast meadow]

What would you need 64gb for ?

32gb is plenty for most

[wet wadi]

But all 3 for $600 would be do-able if it is win 11 compatible

[devout moth]

sʜᴀʀᴋ#1466 has been warned

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[wet wadi]

I'd settle for 32. But would like the virtulization option down the road.

so $600 as a baseline for the cpu mobo ram combo.

[vast meadow]

Virtualization for what?

[wet wadi]

virtual machines. virtual pc's that exist in memory only.

[vast meadow]

Well depends what you're looking for I'd do this personally for your budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xm2nmk

[vast meadow]

Yeah but for what?

[wet wadi]

There are several advantages to being able to run a VM . it is meant to run as a virtual computer that can mimic other types of computers.

[vast meadow]

Ik what a vm can do I'm just wondering why you'd use it as it's not very useful to most

[wet wadi]

Thanks for the suggestion. that isn't an Asus build. MSI and Gskill were my second choices.

[vast meadow]

[wet wadi]

if the PCB and capacitors are quality is another starting point.

[vast meadow]

Yes, z690 a pro has great vrms

[devout moth]

Rocky<3#5715 has been warned

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[wet wadi]

vrms? so that means it's more stable?

[vast meadow]

Vrms =power delivery

[wet wadi]

okay been reading up on the parts list. any suggestions on a PSU?

[vast meadow]

What you got atm?

[wet wadi]

I'm looking at your build suggestion. there was no PSU listed

[vast meadow]

Yeah but what power supply do you have in your current pc? Could probs reuse unless tou wanna repurpose

[wet wadi]

I might reuse OR repurpose my EVGA 750 G3. But I'll look at anything that caliber

[vast meadow]

Good power supply I'd reuse

[normal haven]

Hi

[finite elm]

Do you have a microcenter near you?

[normal haven]

No

It is 2 hours away

Can't drive

[finite elm]

Oh okay

[normal haven]

How long does the reserve motherboard and gpu last

[finite elm]

On newegg?

[normal haven]

Yes

[finite elm]

if you won it in shuffle you have 2 hours to buy it

[normal haven]

I might go to Philadelphia tomorrow if it doesn't snow heavily near me so I can probably go to a micro center

Oh ok

[finite elm]

yee

if you know you want it and can afford it I would order that now

[normal haven]

Ok

Thank you

[finite elm]

@vast meadow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c6wZBc

Thoughts on this? sucks to put a 11400f in a Z590, but if they can get to Microcenter tomorrow they can swap this out for a 10700k or 11600k right?

[vast meadow]

What's the purpose?

Also what gpu?

[finite elm]

They are getting a 3060 and that mobo and wanted a cheap build. probably just gaming 😂

[vast meadow]

Okay 1 sec

[finite elm]

Newegg shuffle

pairing a 219$ mobo with a 500$ GPU is highway robbery ngl.

[vast meadow]

Yeah

[vast meadow]

Are they gonna mem oc? If not no point in getting ballistix if it's not the cheapest