#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 233

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:11 PM

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check the box

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:11 PM

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reseat RAM

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:11 PM

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no ive done that then

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Alright then we can check the debug LEDs

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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i think X570 i think

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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So turn your computer on and look in the top right corner of your motherboard

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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ok

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its flashing

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Somewhere in this area there should be Debug LEDs

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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they are flashing

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:12 PM

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If a single light stays on any of them something is wrong with that part

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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its the cpu one

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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also can you double check the cpu model number? is it 5900x or 3900x?

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Have you tried reseating the CPU also yet?

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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yes i have

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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vast meadow also can you double check the cpu model number? is it 5900x or 3900x?

3900x

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:14 PM

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You will have to return and exchange the CPU from wherever you bought it then

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:14 PM

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rocky beacon You will have to return and exchange the CPU from wherever you bought it then

ok tysm for your help

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:14 PM

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okay so not a bios issue then

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 9:14 PM

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I can't imagine what else the issue could be possibly

pseudo atlas Nov 10, 2021, 9:15 PM

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rocky beacon I can't imagine what else the issue could be possibly

ok ill retern it but tysm

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:37 PM

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@vast meadow you were right about the 5800x being a little on the hotter side. used some generic paste and going to change it out with something better today. was getting around 65-70 deg on Forza 5. play for like 5 or 6 hours. peaked at 76 deg

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but mostly was consistent in the 60s

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which i didnt think was to bad

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:38 PM

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what cooler?

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:38 PM

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240mm aio evga

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:38 PM

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ah nice

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you have the same specs as me I was curious to see what my thermals will be like

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:39 PM

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but its in a micro itx case

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:39 PM

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ah

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:39 PM

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NR200

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with vented panels not glass

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:39 PM

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oh okay good I was gonna say that thing would be an oven

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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gpu stays in the 60s

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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arctic kettle but mostly was consistent in the 60s

60c is fine tbh

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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glass looks nice but it ain't friendly on thermals

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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70c too but bit concerning

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not in a bad way

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just bit high for gaming

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make sure your pump is always 100% btw

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:40 PM

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it fluctuated a lot. stayed in the midish 60s for the most part

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depending what was going on the game

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:41 PM

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I really hope my thermals will be okay

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:41 PM

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they should be

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:41 PM

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i just had a big tube of an offbrand paste sitting around and didnt have anything else

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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didn't ur cooler come with any?

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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that should be fine tbh

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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use it for like old og xboxs when i referbed them

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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supple sedge didn't ur cooler come with any?

thing they kept cooler from upgrade

supple sedge Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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ohhh

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:42 PM

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ya and the cooler has it already applied

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out of box

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usually i keep some better branded stuff around but ran out. im going to switch it out and see if i get a few degrees lower

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like you said it might not matter

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but it helps me sleep at night

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Fair

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Pump at 100% yeah?

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 9:45 PM

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should be, i keep my fans on performance too

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do you think there would be a difference in cooling if i switched me fans on the cooler?

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i have the fans pulling air into the radiator from the back side. not pulling air from the frontside pushing it into the radiator

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dont think it matters but figured id ask

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so like this. like i showed before. fans are on the back side pulling air in.

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 9:57 PM

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arctic kettle do you think there would be a difference in cooling if i switched me fans on the...

Probably, I'd say there's a decent perf improvement on the evga aio with arctic p12s instead

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 10:00 PM

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i changed the original fans out for Noctua NF-P12

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the original fans were to bulking and only have 1 way to screw them on

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@vast meadow 1 more thing. this isnt the room for this question but figured id ask. do you think a 650psu is good enough to run a 5800x and 3070 with NvME and ssd, AIO, ram and 6 fans?

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without throttling

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it seems to be running fine but figure another opinion would be great.

grizzled bloom Nov 10, 2021, 10:05 PM

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Depends on the 650W model and how much overclocking you plan to do

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Probably fine at stock if it's at least a B tier, A tier is desirable for overclocking

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Should be fine if it's decent psu yeah

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Don't really do any OC I'm more of a casual gamer.

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vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:11 PM

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arctic kettle i changed the original fans out for Noctua NF-P12

That works too

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:11 PM

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arctic kettle

That will handle it fine yeah

grizzled bloom Nov 10, 2021, 10:12 PM

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B tier, good good

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:12 PM

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b tier but yeah

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I saw nothing

grizzled bloom Nov 10, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Yeah darn mobile, hard to find things

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Yeah

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I had just checked the list and was like hmmm i stg it was b tier

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Thanks for the info guys. 👍

vast meadow Nov 10, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Np

shy wyvern Nov 10, 2021, 11:12 PM

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rocky beacon

Is this an MSI board?

rocky beacon Nov 10, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Yes

shy wyvern Nov 10, 2021, 11:14 PM

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My debug lights for my build look the same

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and I think they're the same on my new z690 board

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so I was just curious if they used the same ones for every board. Seem they do.

arctic kettle Nov 10, 2021, 11:54 PM

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new paste helped by a couple C

severe pivot Nov 11, 2021, 12:22 AM

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installed 472.12

severe pivot Nov 11, 2021, 12:54 AM

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and i crashed

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any other ideas guys?

arctic kettle Nov 11, 2021, 1:29 AM

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This is for a gpu right?

severe pivot Nov 11, 2021, 1:39 AM

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i guess

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this is my who crashed

devout mothBOT Nov 11, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Myx#0001 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

severe pivot Nov 11, 2021, 1:41 AM

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i sent the msg before i g

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arctic kettle Nov 11, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Did you try to open the computer in safe mode with network and use ddu to completely erase all nivida drivers and turn of auto install drivers in windows? Then reinstall the specific driver ur want to try

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So ur doing a clean install and the computer isn't trying to pull another driver

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Not sure of that will fix your issue but it might be worth a try

severe pivot Nov 11, 2021, 1:53 AM

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yes i did.

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thats what i just did

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thats 4 times of that tech. this last time with an older driver version

supple sedge Nov 11, 2021, 2:10 AM

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yo so i have a b550 aorus pro ac, im gonna have a 360mm aio (arctic liquid freezer argb) and also 3 case fans for exhaust, does this mobo have enough fan headers or am i gonna need to get a splitter/controller?? i couldnt find the info on its amazon page

grizzled bloom Nov 11, 2021, 2:13 AM

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The AIO should come with a splitter

supple sedge Nov 11, 2021, 2:14 AM

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oh does it? cool iwasnt sure lol thanks homie

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planning on building my tower on sunday assuming my ram gets here in time (it might get here monday or tuesday) and i wanted to have everythin

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Would that AIO have a LGA 1700 bracket? I never knew they had an RGB version and it doesnt mention it like the non-RGB one

cursive epoch Nov 11, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Definitely

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Arctic'll send you one for free

supple sedge Nov 11, 2021, 4:35 AM

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gentle acorn Would that AIO have a LGA 1700 bracket? I never knew they had an RGB version and...

I think you can order the 1700 bracket from arctic for free

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welp you type way faster than me foxy

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Alright cool thanks

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I’ll go ahead and get that one instead then

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:57 AM

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gentle acorn Would that AIO have a LGA 1700 bracket? I never knew they had an RGB version and...

bequiet is sending me one (arrives by saturday). Once you buy your cooler and a cpu/mobo most cooler brands will send you a mounting kit

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you'll just need proof that you have both

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Alright

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:58 AM

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or some companies, like corasir (idk about arctic) allow you to straight up buy them too

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oh yeah, luna you were getting the msi z690 a pro too, weren't you?

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I remember now

limber dragon Nov 11, 2021, 5:58 AM

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arctic asks for a copy of your invoice, otherwise its like $7

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Alright

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And yeah i was

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:58 AM

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limber dragon arctic asks for a copy of your invoice, otherwise its like $7

Tbh I would've paid bequiet over waiting so long to have it shipped

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bequiet makes you do a buisness inquiry to order a kit if you don't have proof of purchase

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Yeah i was going to say i might honestly just pay due to that lol

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Yeah it's been torture waiting

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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$7 isnt much

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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I got the stuff on sunday and am still waiting

limber dragon Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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arctic was like a day after sending in my ticket to them replying with the discount code to get it for free

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Oof and cool

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 5:59 AM

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I'mma have my parts for almost a week

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Im getting my parts next month

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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limber dragon arctic was like a day after sending in my ticket to them replying with the disco...

Yeah but ordering the bracket before buying the cpu is what we're talking about

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that way when you buy the cpu you're ready

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Im starting to consider just buying all the parts at once but still unsure as my dad would prefer i do 2 separate payments of around $300

limber dragon Nov 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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you wont have ddr5, so there's that

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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we don't need ddr5

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the new kits barely improve performance

limber dragon Nov 11, 2021, 6:01 AM

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just like how a 6700k is fine with ddr3? pepe_clownmakeup

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:01 AM

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yeah

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My sisters i5 6400 runs great on DDR3 1600mhz

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My brain is just fried tonight holy crap. Need to lay off the work hours

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Im working 4 days in a row this week

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I work part time due to school

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:02 AM

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I keep working doubles

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I work full time ontop of taking 27 credit hours this semester

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and let me tell you

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it's a mistake

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:02 AM

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Dang

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:02 AM

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even if all my classes are online

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I was working so late last night

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that I got 4 hours of sleep before classes started today

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Im already being screwed over due to my hours…

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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12 hours of school work wednesday and thursday

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Oof

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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I cram all of my classes into 2 days

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then work the other 5

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Dang

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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25 hours of sleep a week noises

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:03 AM

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I get an estimated 21 hours?

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:04 AM

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oof even less than me

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Yeah…

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:04 AM

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tbh tonight is going to be pretty gentle

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I usually pull all nighters most wednesday nights

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to do school

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this week my courses haven't given me that much thankfully

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:04 AM

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Sleep at 2am each night then wake up at either 5 or 6am

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That’s good

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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so my courses are 4.5 credit hours, 5.5 week courses

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I take 3 a semester, 2 at a time

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(1 at a time is full time for these courses)

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Im doing dual enrollment

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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I'm taking 2 because I hate myself

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oh, high school?

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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High school and college

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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I did that too but my high school allowed me to drop a high school class for it

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Yeah same

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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so I was going to 1 community college class

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:05 AM

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Well i dropped 2

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:06 AM

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I did 2 classes my senior year

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:06 AM

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Im doing 4

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Wait no 5

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:06 AM

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visual arts my first semester, music appreciation my second semester

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such easy classes

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I'm a 4th year that due to major changes am a second year in credits

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I've changed my major twice

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Im doing AP chem, trig, fire science(class to be trained to become a firefighter which is at my college), language arts, and team sports(literally a free grade due to all my score being based off attendance)

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Im a senior in high school and am based off credits as well

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:09 AM

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That's such a nice rig for highschooler

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:09 AM

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I literally just need my gym credit, language arts credit, and half a fine arts credit to pass

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:09 AM

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hell it's better than mine

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:09 AM

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I got my current one as a birthday present in 2019 which i also helped pay for

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These will be my first parts i pay for by myself

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:10 AM

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I wanna just install my parts already Eevee_cry

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Just slap a damp rag on the cpu, use that as a cooler

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I want to be able to buy my parts but i decided to wait 4 weeks so my next pay day i could buy Horizon Forbidden West instead

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:11 AM

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sad xbox gamer noises

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:11 AM

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Oof

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totally didnt ask for a PS5 for my birthday for the main reason of being able to play HFW

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My birthday is in 18 days and ik for sure im getting it as i helped my dad find it lmao

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 6:13 AM

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I pay for gamepass

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So like

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No Xbox would be big silly

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I have a Series S

gentle acorn Nov 11, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Nice

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I just use game pass ultimate on my PC

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I have a Halo 5 xbox one thats about 8 years old now then a xbox one S

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Also a xbox 360 which still works

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Well i should probably sleep

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Night

naive pendant Nov 11, 2021, 6:17 AM

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i just put together an x58 system

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oh i just realized

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i was gonna say memtest86 wont work for some reason but i think i figured out hwy

warm bolt Nov 11, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Watching gamer nexus 12700k benchmarks and my 12700k got here today. Feeling good about my purchase. 🥰

warm bolt Nov 11, 2021, 1:30 PM

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There any updates or predictions for when ddr5 back in stock?

vernal cosmos Nov 11, 2021, 1:32 PM

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Nope

warm bolt Nov 11, 2021, 1:35 PM

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😦

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I just realized that if Intel said that all CPUs are guaranteed a 100mhz overclock through their overclocking utility, the only reason they wouldn't have it like that on stock would be cooling reasons, right?

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(cooling/power consumption)

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:13 PM

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warm bolt There any updates or predictions for when ddr5 back in stock?

I was going to buy a combo ddr4/ddr5 board like I did for 6th gen, but apparently because of how different the power delivery is, this is the first DDR generation that it won't be possible to do that. I think most of us are just buying DDR4 boards to avoid the 2-3x price hike of DDR5

candid harness Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I wish I did that

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Did you go ddr5?

candid harness Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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yup

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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The few percentage difference wasn't enough for me to sell my 4x8 kit

candid harness Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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and now i have no ram

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Oh crap

candid harness Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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waiting on stock

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I have 4 sticks of gskill aegis that run at 3200mhz stable (cl17)

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I figured I'd take the 4% ish reduction for DDR4

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By the time I feel like I need DDR5 I'll probably upgrade my CPU

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Besides I feel like people exaggerate the need for new generation of ram. My sister's i5 6400 still runs great with ddr3 1600

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Because honestly

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Paying an extra $130 bucks for decent DDR5

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Puts you at the next CPU tier, right?

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And imo a 12700k with ddr4 will always be a better purchase than a ddr5 with 12600k

candid harness Nov 11, 2021, 10:18 PM

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yea I understand your POV

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I'm building a 12700K with DDR5

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using a 3080ti

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I figured i'm dropping all this $$$ on a build what's another $100-200

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in hindsight I could have just done a build with a 10700k using DDR4, I could have had a working computer by now. lol

shy wyvern Nov 11, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Or a 12900k with ddr4 for about the same price

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One of my friends just got a $55 16GB memory kit

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Forgot the brand, it was 3200 cl18 for $55 brand new

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Like cheap memory. Compared to DDR5 cheap memory it's absurd. I have always done combo boards to wait until ram gets way better and a bit cheaper but this cycle I'm going for same gen I guess.

severe pivot Nov 12, 2021, 1:03 AM

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who crashed quickly becoming my most used program

next sphinx Nov 12, 2021, 5:52 AM

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will the I9-9900k go on sale for black friday?

smoky widget Nov 12, 2021, 5:54 AM

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I think the i9 9900K is hard to find @next sphinx

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 5:54 AM

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It's hard to find nowadays

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Not made anymore

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 8:02 AM

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Kind of an emotional night tonight

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I say goodbye to my 8600k

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Such a trooper. Let me push it to 5.3ghz

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My mounting bracket gets here in the morning so...

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Time to reassemble the build

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End of an era. Last time I'll ever be under 8 threads

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 8:05 AM

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next sphinx will the I9-9900k go on sale for black friday?

Possibly but it's pretty old at this point, dont buy it unless you're upgrading from a 9400/9600k and have a nice motherboard and cooler already, way better off picking up a 10700(k)

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Does anyone else get sad upgrading a well used machine?

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Not me lol too excited for the upgrade x) and i usually downcycle to my dad/bro so

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Idk where this one is going

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All my siblings have computers from parts I've scavenged

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I have one being used as a server rn to (just an i5 6500T)

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I don't really have much use for her anymore.

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At least my type C front port will work now!

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Sometimes I forget how much I hate 24 pin ATX connectors. My entire board just flexed so hard

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 8:12 AM

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As much as i don't wanna have to buy a new psu when 12vo comes out, i can't wait to never touch a 24 pin connector again

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 8:12 AM

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For real

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That thing has as much of a grip on the motherboard as student loan debt on the average American. Unwaivering and possibly damaging.

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Oh hecc I might need to open up the rats nest of cables in the back

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Uhhh

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One of my motherboard screws is stuck

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Like I've probably done 100 rotations

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The screw itself is spinning

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But it's not coming out any

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Oh crap... The screw isn't spinning in the back but is in the front...

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It snapped...

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What do I do there?

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Wait they're all spinning without getting lose

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Why won't my threads engage wtf

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Try make sure you're putting as much pressure and as straight on as possible

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Apparently this case has removable standoffs LOL

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Which means I've tightened the screws tighter than the factory standoffs are tightened

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Woops

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:22 AM

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These screws are legit holding the heccin board down

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I have done over 100 rotations on each. They don't budge.

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What do I do here.

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Maybe ya really have to push into the screw

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:27 AM

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It's not working...

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Legit do I need to get a new case and toss the case + Mobo?

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Well I mean I don't need my 8600k so I guess just new case :/

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I GOT IT

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I was right. Wasn't the standoffs

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I overtightened the screws to where the top of the threads went bad

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So I literally had to yank up by the cooler to give it enough force

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To engage

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Not to self stop building PCs while drunk

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Everything is way over tightened

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:36 AM

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cursive epoch Maybe ya really have to push into the screw

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How the hecc am I gonna do this

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Look how short the Ifixit screwdriver is

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

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oof

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Yeah

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I can't find the bequiet screwdriver

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How tf do I do this

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 9:38 AM

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I guess grab a larger screwdriver or one with thinner handle

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:39 AM

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I don't own any other screwdrivers lol

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Well I do but none longer than this

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Thinner?

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:52 AM

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I just ended up using big brain

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Pliers + short screw driver = ridiculous torque

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90 degree angle on the pliers

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I'm happy

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Ayee

warm bolt Nov 12, 2021, 10:02 AM

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shy wyvern

Looking at ifixit tools. Does that screwdriver magnetically hold screws?

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:18 AM

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warm bolt Looking at ifixit tools. Does that screwdriver magnetically hold screws?

Yes but it's a little weak compared to other magnetic tips I've used

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See?

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Ignore me using my glass side panel as a work surface Lol

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All set up

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Now to do nothing else until tomorrow since bequiet requires a backplate to mount coolers that's not here yet (gets here in the morning while I'm at work)

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CPU in, SSD in, ram in

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

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shy wyvern Now to do nothing else until tomorrow since bequiet requires a backplate to moun...

What ram you using btw?

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The no heatsink ddr4 scares me

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Uhm

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Gskill aegis...

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It's what I have

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Running at 3200 cl16 or 3300 cl17 depending what I clock them all too

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Ahh that's fine

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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It's not bad ram

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Just not great ram

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Cheap. I got my first stick for $55 during the 2018 ram price crisis

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Yeye it just kinda looked like 2133 lol

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:48 AM

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No I'm not that much of a goldfish

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I'm usually someone competent

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2133 cl 22 here I come

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Just making sure lol

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:48 AM

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slots a single stick of 4GB 2133 cl22

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Well there's 2133 cl15 or 2666cl15 which is def possible from a 8600k, especially the 2666

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Yeah no

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I wouldn't run ram that slow tbh

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It's gskil aegis 3000 but apparently

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All 4 sticks just overclock

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And become stable

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Yeah most 3000 can do 3200

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Apparently I was running it unstable for years at 3400 cl17 until someone here had me test it

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It seemed stable enough

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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shy wyvern Running at 3200 cl16 or 3300 cl17 depending what I clock them all too

3300?

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Intel's memory test passed

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:50 AM

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vernal cosmos 3300?

Yeah? What about it

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Odd timing

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Also use tm5 or occt

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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I used tm5

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Showed cl17 3300 stable

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Ahh okay

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Just not 3400

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Extreme anta?

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:51 AM

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I used Intel because Intel will validate memory and CPU

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Intel's cpu test is surprisingly competent, has always matched prime95 for me

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Apparently their memory one is not

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Use occt or p95 or aida 64 for cpu

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Yeah ik

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But Intel's overclock utility is actually decent way to do quick CPU tests

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:52 AM

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shy wyvern Intel's cpu test is surprisingly competent, has always matched prime95 for me

Don't think it's possible for Intel's to match smallest fft

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:53 AM

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I meant for proving if stable

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Mmmm debatable lol

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:53 AM

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If it's been stable for the Intel test it been stable for prime95 so

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Like

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100% accuracy

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For my testing

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When I pushed my 8600k to 5.3ghz

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Also my ram does have a heatsink!

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Kinda

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It's an aluminum sticker

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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shy wyvern Yeah? What about it

Ram frquecies go from 3200 to 3266 to 3333 to 3400

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Them both passing doesn't mean that intel is good enough

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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No 3300 entry in bios

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Every board I've seen has a 3300...

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I legit had it selected at 3300

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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I've never seen 3000

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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vast meadow I've never seen 3000

3000 exists afaik

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3300 is odd

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3333 is a thing

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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This kit for example is legit

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Unless you mess with blck

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Granted most these days are type speed, not list

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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vernal cosmos 3000 exists afaik

Typo

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Some kits even state 3300

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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I've never seen that

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Idk I know for a fact I was running my ram at 3300

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Im pretty sure they run at 3333

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And not 3300

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3333 no look good on paper

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:56 AM

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My bios had separate entries for 3333 and 3300

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Strange

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 10:58 AM

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shy wyvern I used tm5

TM5 on what config file?

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The normal default one is garbo

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Oh I think I just used defailt

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Whatever I got sent from here

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Yeah use extreme anta config

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Should take ~2hr with 16gb 3200c16

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:02 AM

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Yeah

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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I already spent a few hours validating on default

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Not same

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Pato hows ur xmp ram btw

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Anta more intensive

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Default tm5 or whatever

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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vernal cosmos Pato hows ur xmp ram btw

Stable

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:03 AM

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shy wyvern Default tm5 or whatever

Default tm5 is icky

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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VulpixConfused

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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vast meadow Stable

So is my 3800c14 ballistix kit

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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I get told to use something, I use it, I get told it icky

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:04 AM

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shy wyvern I get told to use something, I use it, I get told it icky

Most likely where told to use tm5 extreme anta(77) or they failed to mentioned it

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:05 AM

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https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

I did whatever this is

Overclock.net

Memory Testing with TestMem5 TM5 with custom configs

Hello everybody

I am just making a very light tutorial with a collection of custom config files and a DOWNLOAD LINK for TM5 v0.12
anta777 absolut config Official Intel DDR4 24/7 Memory Stability Thread

None of the work is mine but it seems like a pretty good and fast testing app

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You actually sent me it LOL

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Remember? That's how we found it wasn't stable at 3400

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

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See u launch tm5

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Use the load config button

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

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I did I just didn't remember what I used

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Select extreme anta config

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And restart tm5

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

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I was drunk off my butt when I did all of this

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But yeah

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:06 AM

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shy wyvern I was drunk off my butt when I did all of this

Thats ur fault then, dont blame us

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:07 AM

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I did all the steps in there and validated it at (the apparently weird) ddr4 3300 cl17 since

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The 3400 wasn't stable

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I don't really get into memory stress testing

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I'm very very noobish at overclocking

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Anyways

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I figured 3200/3300 would be good enough for a 12600k

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And they do have heatsinksz , it's the thin aluminum plated stickers running across all the chips lol

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Like bare minimum and I doubt it does very much

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Are you really running 3200 ram with alder lake

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Legit I've seen benchmarks and there's almost no difference between ddr4 cl16 3200 and ddr5 cl?? 5200

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I'm not paying a stupid amount for a kit when I have 32GB of DDR4 I can use

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More expensive board + stupid expensive DDR5

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I already dropped $520 on CPU + motherboard

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This isn't the one I based my decision off of since it wasn't out yet but also proves my point https://youtu.be/fIN8lLhSqmg

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

DDR5 vs. DDR4 Benchmarks on Intel i9-12900K (Alder Lake Memory Comp...

This benchmarking looks at two specific kits of DDR4 and DDR5 on the Intel Core i9-12900K Alder Lake CPU with Windows 10, comparing DDR4 vs. DDR5 with these specific timings.
Sponsor: be quiet!'s Silent Base 802 https://geni.us/DaGYu

As an important reminder, we can't produce a blanket "DDR4 vs. DDR5" video because DDR4 & DDR5 are just categori...

▶ Play video

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The literal price of a good 32GB ddr5 ram kit

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Would also be the same price of me going from a 12600k to a 12900k

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Not to mention the ddr5 stock issues too

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:20 AM

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shy wyvern This isn't the one I based my decision off of since it wasn't out yet but also p...

If you read the pinned comment they say they use tuned 3200

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Not 3200c16

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And that ram outperforms 3600 and 3800 XMP kits

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kekw

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So yeah there will be a lot more gap for 3200c16

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Still

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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GN uses 3200c14

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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shy wyvern Still

No

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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A decent DDR5 5200CL38 kit is $280

mystic inlet Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Anyone know if the MSI Z590 godlike nvme shields can be left off? Have gigabyte rgb nvme and like to display them but notice most z590 have plates that cover them and can't be left off or are on big piece

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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There is no still

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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You really expect me to drop $280

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On ddr5

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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shy wyvern A decent DDR5 5200CL38 kit is $280

And a decent ddr4 kit is 150$

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3600c16

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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I already had the ram

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Far better than what you have

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:22 AM

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It's fine tbh

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They can upgrade later

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If wanted/needed

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:22 AM

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I mean its not great

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:22 AM

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Is it going to be such a difference

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That I should pay $300

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To upgrade to ddr5

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Are you not reading the part where i said 3600c16 ddr4 ram is 150$

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:23 AM

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vernal cosmos I mean its not great

But it's free, not like they bought a new kit

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:23 AM

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400 mhz increase for $150 is absurd

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:23 AM

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You know ram gains arent linear right?

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Its not worth 150$ increase in perf tbh

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:24 AM

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I know it's not linear but like

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:24 AM

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vast meadow But it's free, not like they bought a new kit

I mean Its still a decent enough upgrade

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:24 AM

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3200 to 3600 same cas latency

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Can't possibly be worth $150

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Instead of upgrading ur sn750 I would upgrade ram

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:25 AM

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All my kits together brand new are only worth $110

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 11:25 AM

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It's worth like 50$ but because you're not buying new, keeping 3200cl16 best value imo

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:25 AM

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That's brand new

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Used gskill aegis 3000 legit goes for like $40 per 2 sticks. I'd be out $70

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:26 AM

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Didnt you say u were gonna spend 400$ on a new ssd?

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Spend less on that

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And buy better ram

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Thats a perf boost ull actually notice

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:26 AM

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And it wasn't for now

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It was for 8-12 months from now

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:27 AM

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When you do then

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Get a better kit of ram

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Was always planning on something like ddr4 4800 before that

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Like a high end kit

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:27 AM

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I would get a 4400c17 kit tbh

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:27 AM

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I was just trying to defend me using my same memory

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Because going ddr5 rn is stupid

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:28 AM

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No one here said go ddr5

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:28 AM

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$280 for a 5200mhz cl38 kit

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:28 AM

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You are the only one talking about ddr5

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Literally

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I'll eventually upgrade my ram

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I figured you telling at me for 3200 was because of that

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Misunderstood what you meant

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I literally said ddr 4 multiple times

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:29 AM

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I've had over 5 people berate me this week for going ddr4

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Are any of them present in this convo tho?

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:29 AM

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I'm just a little sick of being frowned upon for trying to save some money in the short term

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No

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It's my fault for being Moody too

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It's 4:30 am too and I got work at 7:00

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Sorry for misunderstanding you

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I just can't afford to drop more than $550 on one paycheck

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So that's why I'm using my current ram kit

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Besides I doubt I'll feel that much performance penalty ATM with my potato of an rtx card

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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vernal cosmos Are you really running 3200 ram with alder lake

Really sorry for getting so defensive. This just felt like an attack on me not buying new memory.

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Its fine

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Would ddr4 4800cl19 perform pretty decent?

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It's hard finding lower latency kits for 4400/4800 that are 32GB

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I use around 20GB for things like modded Minecraft so I don't think I want to drop to 16GB

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 12:11 PM

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@shy wyvern https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gfWBD3/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl16-memory-f4-4000c16d-32gvk this kit decent

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL16 Memory

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Any opinions on ASUS mobo LGA1700 hero vs formula (intel), i see diff in lan, front panel, and amps. Planning on i9 12,900 (if they are ever in stock). Not for gaming, but for higher end graphics and work related. Thx

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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devout shore Any opinions on ASUS mobo LGA1700 hero vs formula (intel), i see diff in lan, fr...

I wouldn't buy either of those, what features are you looking for in particular? 2.5b lan? Wifi etc?

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Looking to build a higher end system to last 5+ years and not be limited for expansion. Lan is important (I process large volumes of data). I monitor / diagnose issues for about 8k servers, and also run 5-6 apps constantly. I view 2-4 monitors concurrently using 2 laptops, iPads etc… and want to consolidate onto single desktop and reduce my desk “footprint”

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And thanks for taking time

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:18 PM

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lan speed is only important if you have network fast enough for that

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2.5 gbps translates to 2500 mbps

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Yeah. I got that. Like i said, I process large volumes of data which is increasing almost daily. More “spikes” than constant but I need to have capacity for short term spikes

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2.5gb is ok for today, but maybe not in 1-2 years from now

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I prob dont even need i9 or the capacity of these mobo’s, but trying to avoid a future “oh crap”

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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devout shore I prob dont even need i9 or the capacity of these mobo’s, but trying to avoid a ...

Are you in the us? Also 2.5gbps will be plenty, most internet providers only give up to 1gb soo

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Yeah, I’m in florida (yay me), so, 2.5gbps is great for internet, but I have local NAS that stores TB of data which are used to overlay current stats with historical data. So the 2.5gbps isnt just for internet

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Any good ddr5 sticks yet ?

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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misty obsidian Any good ddr5 sticks yet ?

Depends what you define good, imo not really

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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devout shore Yeah, I’m in florida (yay me), so, 2.5gbps is great for internet, but I have loc...

Local nas wont use the ur isp net speed to transfer data

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It does it over ethernet

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You can literally disconnect the data cable from the isp and still have ur nas run at full speed

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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@vernal cosmos thats what I was trying to point out. I’m not looking at the 10gb vs 2.5gb for internet capacity. I’m looking at it for local capacity

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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@devout shore one last question before i recommend a board, are you gonna go ddr5?

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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@balmy cloak most likely. Speed (current and future) is pretty important. $$ isnt really an issue

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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devout shore <@!499525349109923844> thats what I was trying to point out. I’m not looking at...

TBH for a nas I would get 2 10gbps network cards for ur pc and nas

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And not use mobo lan

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Just upgrade the system and futureproof it rn instead of limiting urself to how fast the mobo included lan port can go

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:35 PM

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vernal cosmos TBH for a nas I would get 2 10gbps network cards for ur pc and nas

I mean only if 2.5gbps aint enough

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:35 PM

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@vernal cosmos that makes sense.

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Are current motherboards likely to support the end-game of DDR5 tech ?

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Itll cost less than a full mobo swap to a high end one anyway

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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I'm thinking it might not be worth running a 2021 CPU with the best DDR5 that'll come out in 2023

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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misty obsidian Are current motherboards likely to support the end-game of DDR5 tech ?

If you mean the frequencies and timings? Yeah but the cpus will be the limiting factor most likely

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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misty obsidian Are current motherboards likely to support the end-game of DDR5 tech ?

I mean the end game of ddr4 came out like 4-5 years after ddr4 came out

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So no one can tell

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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guessing game going strong

vernal cosmos Nov 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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But the cpu most definitely wont run those speeds as duck pointed out

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To have a chance at running the fastest ddr4 kit available you either need a above average binned 10900k or 11900k

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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yeah seems like a moot point

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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@devout shore i would probably this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gyytt6/gigabyte-z690-aorus-pro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-pro

Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:40 PM

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boards selling ddr5 compatibility sound gimicky to me, unlikely to harness much performance from the better ram

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maybe a couple percent increase at some point

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:40 PM

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You do gain extra smoothness

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Like 0.1% and 1% lows has actual gains

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You won't be stuttering with ddr4 ofc, but you lose the smoothness

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:41 PM

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why is ddr5 smooth

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Average and max fps doesn't tell the whole story

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Well, more bandwidth?

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And higher speed too

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/smooth-so-smooth-easy-no-problem-hes-good-gif-15610930

Tenor

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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DDR5 has many things added

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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going from 7700k to 12700k sound like a really good upgrade to me

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been playing satisfactory and hosting servers melts my cpu lol

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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If you can find ram that is

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ddr5 is erm, facing shortages

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imo for basically everything even 12600K is just enough

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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I can use my current DDR4 and wait 2 years for DDR5 all fine

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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In games perf is basically equal between 12700K and that

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Or even 12900K

supple sedge Nov 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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any of you guys know where i can find what bios version my mobo has installed? its in the box still I just wanna know if i need to do the bios flash or not in order for it to support my 5800x

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is it on the box or something somewhere? i couldnt find it

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Nah, they don't list bios version on the box

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Which board is it?

supple sedge Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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b550 gigabyte aorus pro

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ac

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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That one has flashback

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You can update the bios without needing cpu or ram

supple sedge Nov 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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yeah ik ill prob end up havin to do that

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i was wondering if it got shipped with a newer bios so i dont have to do it XD

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Just test booting with cpu installed first

supple sedge Nov 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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could try that too

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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@balmy cloak. Really appreciate the time and thoughts. Can you tell me the primary reason to rec that mobo? (In stock?, less $, support?…)

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:52 PM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=134589,134594

Intel product specifications

Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.

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NIce ! even the i5 now gets virtualization

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I remember days when you didn't get VT stuff when you bought i5

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maybe that's 5 gens ago xD

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now the only difference is 2 more cores and

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turbo boost max technology 3.0

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I dunno

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My i3 2310M had vt

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But eh, I wouldn't care about turbo 3.0 too much

misty obsidian Nov 12, 2021, 2:54 PM

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wtf is it

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Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 identifies the best performing core(s) on a processor and provides increased performance on those cores through increasing frequency as needed by taking advantage of power and thermal headroom.

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some cores generate less heat and they get favored by the processing gods, got it.

cursive epoch Nov 12, 2021, 2:54 PM

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It's just more advanced boosting

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Like more aggressive boost behavior

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Cause turbo 3.0 has turbo velocity boost or something

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 3:24 PM

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misty obsidian I can use my current DDR4 and wait 2 years for DDR5 all fine

Well yes but you'd need to buy a new motherboard if you want to upgrade your ddr5

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 3:24 PM

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supple sedge i was wondering if it got shipped with a newer bios so i dont have to do it XD

By now, probably

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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devout shore <@271440839467597835>. Really appreciate the time and thoughts. Can you tell m...

Very nice mobo, 2.5gb lan, great vrms and nice io

devout shore Nov 12, 2021, 3:30 PM

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@balmy cloak. 👍👍

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Day 8....still stuck on this island with no DDR5. The rest of the system is assembled...I've put money aside for RAM, but no passing ships have any. I'm marooned on this island....help is never coming and my only friend is a volleyball with a bloody hand print and this be quiet! case. I hug both with eager hands, but without RAM neither is all that useful....

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:09 PM

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I'm getting my mounting kit today

mild jackal Nov 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

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You can get ddr5 off newegg through combos

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:11 PM

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mild jackal You can get ddr5 off newegg through combos

If you already have mobo tho, rip

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:11 PM

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restive minnow Day 8....still stuck on this island with no DDR5. The rest of the system is ass...

I saw the Corsair vengeance DDR5 in stock on corsairs website last night I think. The 2x16 kit 5200 cl38, $280

mild jackal Nov 12, 2021, 4:11 PM

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But then you have to buy corsair ram

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Nvm it's out of stock now
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-DDR5-Memory---Black/p/CMK32GX5M2B5200C38

VENGEANCE® 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 5200MHz C38 Memory Kit — Black

CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5, optimized for Intel® motherboards, delivers higher frequencies and greater capacities of DDR5 technology in a high-quality, compact module that suits your system.

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It was in stock like 5.5 hours ago lol

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This is what some reviewers used like habor boxed. Or was it hammer on box? The name is so difficult to remember.

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:15 PM

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shy wyvern This is what some reviewers used like habor boxed. Or was it hammer on box? The ...

Hardware unboxed??

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steveconfused

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Oh yeah

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Silly me

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Yeah I've got everything but the RAM at this point. I could be convinced to combo with new storage, but that's about it

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I've already got a cooler I don't need thanks to these combos

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Where did you get the motherboard?

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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NewEgg

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Still in return window or

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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If it's z690 it gotta be lol

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I'm sure it is

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I'd honestly just say screw it, return it, get a good ddr4 board and a $180-200 kit of ddr4 memory that'll out perform DDR5

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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The Build:
Aorus Z690 Master
12900K
280mm be quiet! cooler
be quiet! Dark 900 rev. 2 case
GeForce RTX 3090
EVGA PSU 1000W

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Since you were willing to shell out so much for an expensive DDR5 kit

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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oh hell no

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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restive minnow The Build: Aorus Z690 Master 12900K 280mm be quiet! cooler be quiet! Dark 900 re...

weggChefKiss

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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not getting DDR4

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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LMAO

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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For 12900k just get ddr5

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Good luck waiting a few months for good DDR5 stock then, good luck to you.

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I guess if that's what it takes. Look at the rest of the system -- DDR4 would be a hindrance

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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B&h have some on preorder btw

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:19 PM

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every benchmark would need an asterisk next to it

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I'm sad that the power delivery is so different between DDR4 and DDR5. This is my first DDR generation leap that I haven't bought a combo board (supports both memory types)

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Yeah, B&H might be my best choice right now. At least I can place an order with them

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

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I almost always go for combo boards

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I did one for my i5 6400 and loved it

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

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The pipelline is very different as well. DDR4 - 64bit single pipeline, DDR5 - two 32bit pipelines

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Yep

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Just weird to me that there's no combo boards. Those are such special treasures

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Combo more likely for b660 boards imo

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But bit of a biostar move

restive minnow Nov 12, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Not seeing any bundles for DDR5, sold out or otherwise. Search function at Newegg, or am I just terrible at searching?

grizzled bloom Nov 12, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Nope. Just sold out everywhere.

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Newegg won't have the pages up if they don't know what stock they might get

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 5:16 PM

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If anyone sees any really high end (4400+ at decent cas latency) ram for sale in a 32GB kit for black Friday and they remember, can y'all ping/dm me

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Between taking 27 credit hours and doing almost full time work I don't really have time to deal hunt

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Perhaps bleach can help after they troubleshoot their PC, I'll try to remember to ping if I see any

hollow thorn Nov 12, 2021, 5:17 PM

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shy wyvern If anyone sees any really high end (4400+ at decent cas latency) ram for sale in...

Are you interested in 2x16 or 4x8 or talking about 2x32?

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I linked a nice 4000cl16 kit earlier ssadge

warm bolt Nov 12, 2021, 5:19 PM

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grizzled bloom Nope. Just sold out everywhere.

Wait what? did I miss a ddr5 drop?

mild jackal Nov 12, 2021, 5:24 PM

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shy wyvern If anyone sees any really high end (4400+ at decent cas latency) ram for sale in...

Do you actually want to run it at 4400? What cpu/board? These are some of the best dual rank b-die sticks you can get, the next step up is $480 for 4000c14 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374187

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They OC well 🙂

grizzled bloom Nov 12, 2021, 5:41 PM

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warm bolt Wait what? did I miss a ddr5 drop?

They were on sale when the 12th gen dropped and they immediately sold out. Some were on sale before then, they're sold out too.

warm bolt Nov 12, 2021, 5:53 PM

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grizzled bloom They were on sale when the 12th gen dropped and they immediately sold out. Some ...

Oh yeah nah I know about that.

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I didn't preorder when I saw it bc I didn't have money for that and new cpu yet.

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Regret it now.

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:06 PM

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vast meadow I linked a nice 4000cl16 kit earlier <:ssadge:827702421279080468>

If I'm upgrading my 3200 I'd prefer 4400+

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:06 PM

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mild jackal Do you actually want to run it at 4400? What cpu/board? These are some of the ...

Yeah, it's for my 12600k. I just looking for a 4400/4800 kit that isn't like cl20 LOL

shy wyvern Nov 12, 2021, 9:07 PM

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hollow thorn Are you interested in 2x16 or 4x8 or talking about 2x32?

2x16 or 4x8. Not picky.

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 9:09 PM

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shy wyvern If I'm upgrading my 3200 I'd prefer 4400+

I mean fair you can get a 4000cl17 kit for like 270 probs

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@shy wyvern https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PhFbt6/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4400-cl17-memory-f4-4400c17d-32gvk

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL17 Memory

warm bolt Nov 12, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Anyone know of any leakers on socials that would know when more ddr5 is coming in stock?

vast meadow Nov 12, 2021, 10:11 PM

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warm bolt Anyone know of any leakers on socials that would know when more ddr5 is coming i...

That would be a restock bot, not leakers btw but no i dont

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Is cl19 for 4400 bad?

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 12:33 AM

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No, fair odds it's b-die but might be low bin

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My b-die kit was 4133 19-23-23 and it overclocks fairly well to 3800 14-15-14

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:52 AM

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...

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My cooler doesn't fit my motherboard

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I literally can't mount it

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Oh no, 12th gen bracket problems?

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Nope it's component layout

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Literally nothing I can do

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Ah, Asus? Yeah that's been a problem

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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MSI

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Not asus

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This is a z690 a pro...

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Welp time to add MSI to the list of problem boards then

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:54 AM

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I can't afford a cooler. I just sold my old CPU and motherboard

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I legit don't have a computer over these components and my cooler is essential trash

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I'm seething

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Oh NVM I'm a goldfish

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I forgot the standoffs

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Don't mind me

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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lmao

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:55 AM

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I'm tired from working a 10 hour shift, brain no work

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Had 9/15 people call out for lunch today

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I just wanna sit in my chair

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And benchmark a silly CPU all night

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 12:57 AM

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is ok

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Oh something I tested a long while ago

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Which is probably quadruple true for the 12th gen since they set lower

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Hand tightening as tight as you can versus screw driver tightening the standoffs

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Legit makes a 6°C difference

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I tested it 3 times over

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All were 6-7° worse for hand tightening

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I actually contacted customer support my first time installing it because my 8600k was running so hot with a 200 watt air cooler

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They told me to make sure I'm using a screw driver for the standoffs

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Odd, must be that cooler specifically because usually overtightening is bad and can bend pins

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Yeah because it uses 2 layers

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You have standoff + bars

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And then a bar that goes over the first two bars

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That the cooler mounts too

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And if it's too high up you don't get good contact

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I have never seen this mounting system besides bequiet tbh

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It works like that

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(cooler under the bar)

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Makes sense then, that is odd indeed

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Yeah

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So if the bar not low enough

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It's just the weight of the cooler

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No extra pressure

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I will say this application process is quite simple though. It allows for easy adapting

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I feel kind of bad putting plain old mx-4 on my 12600k

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I'm out of kyronaut (it gets expensive fast)

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I'm like 1/3 through this giant tube

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It's massive

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Wait

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This CPU isn't square!

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Should I make the pea shape an oval instead?

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Never worked on a CPU with different size sides

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Correct, they changed it. Pea still works but I'd do X or hand spread.

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Ew hand spread

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I only do hand spread with the thick high performance pastes

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Not with your hand with a spudger or something lol

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Ik

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But still ew

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That takes so long

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I think I applied too much, oh well

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Better too much than too little

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:09 AM

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The lines are a bit thick

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First time ever not doing the pea method

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Yeah might spread off a bit but won't hurt it

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Also I'm worries the capacitors are going to bake. There's legit half a mm of room between level 1 of the mounting kit

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And them

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Caps don't get as hot as other VRM parts

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:10 AM

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That leaves like no room for airflow

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:10 AM

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grizzled bloom Caps don't get as hot as other VRM parts

Yeah but don't they have a lower thermal tolerance?

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:11 AM

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What do they say on them? Good quality ones are 100-105C rated

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Idk, my cooler is already mounted LOL

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I'm not disassembling it to check

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I think it'll be fine

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Yeah they're fine

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Holy

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Is this calculated? The screws barely miss digging into the caps

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:15 AM

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I'm sure it has to be. AIBs and cooler manufacturers have been talking to get the brackets right.

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Pretty excited

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And now that I have $400 in expendable income a month too I can save up better for new parts

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4080 + new PSU budget in 3 months

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:21 AM

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You'll definitely need a new PSU for that from what I've seen, maybe 1000W recommended minimum

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 1:24 AM

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I have built/rebuilt/disassembly clean like 12 computers

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AND STILL FORGOT THE IO SHIELD

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Wow MSI has improved these IO Shields a lot the last 4 years

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It's actually looks decent

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Almost forgot to hammer in the IO shield (props if you get the reference)

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 1:31 AM

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shy wyvern AND STILL FORGOT THE IO SHIELD

The last one I built didn't even come with an IO shield, used board

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 2:00 AM

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That sucks

regal lichen Nov 13, 2021, 2:30 AM

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I guess when you look for GPUS and CPUs theres different speeds and performance reasons, what do we look for in terms of Motherboards? just compatibility?

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 2:53 AM

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regal lichen I guess when you look for GPUS and CPUs theres different speeds and performance ...

It depends. For a midrange cpu, it doesn't matter much. For a high end one, you need the good stuff.
There's also the fact intel locks overclocking to Z chipset boards if you want to dabble in that.

regal lichen Nov 13, 2021, 3:39 AM

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grizzled bloom It depends. For a midrange cpu, it doesn't matter much. For a high end one, you ...

Thanks yeah looking for the new 12th gen Alder Lakes the i5 at the least or possibly the i9

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 AM

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There shouldn't be any problems then. The limited amount of motherboards for that are all Z690 and very capable

regal lichen Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 AM

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so any Z690 would do then? whats like the difference between Asus Maximus hero or ROG Strix etc is it just names lol and design

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is there Tutorials on how to build a PC, i havent built one in 7-8 years and i think i got help with that, i don't feel that confident but i do want to try it this time, i do know where goes what like ram etc, but the new PCEI SSD's are newer to me

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 3:44 AM

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regal lichen is there Tutorials on how to build a PC, i havent built one in 7-8 years and i t...

Things like better power stages/vrm, better networking, higher speed USB ports, the connectors offered, reinforced pcie slots, etc.

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Some of them are ddr4 some are ddr5

regal lichen Nov 13, 2021, 3:45 AM

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ohh ok make sense

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 3:45 AM

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I know you can plug X1 into pcie X16 but it just feels so wrong (look at wireless card)

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It's taking up so little of that slot

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:52 AM

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lmao

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 3:54 AM

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cursive epoch lmao

You laugh but it looks like that card is trying so hard, yet taking out 1/4 the slot

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It's trying its best okay

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 4:14 AM

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vernal cosmos Ram frquecies go from 3200 to 3266 to 3333 to 3400

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vernal cosmos Nov 13, 2021, 4:42 AM

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shy wyvern

Cursed

shy wyvern Nov 13, 2021, 5:49 AM

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vernal cosmos Cursed

Told you MSI actually has the option

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Is ddr5 just not out yet or what

rocky beacon Nov 13, 2021, 2:21 PM

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It is out just hard to find

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Been looking for 20 minutes cant find any skus, not even out of stock

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Whats a good place to look ?

rocky beacon Nov 13, 2021, 2:22 PM

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It's not in stock anywhere currently but it has been released

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B&H had a kit for pre order

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Okay, do you think its possible to get sone by christmas ? Im divided on my purchase because of that

rocky beacon Nov 13, 2021, 2:23 PM

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You are just going to have to keep looking

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Would be nice to have a combo ddr4 and ddr5 board

rocky beacon Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#U=5

Choose Memory

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Those do not exist

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Sadge

subtle crow Nov 13, 2021, 2:45 PM

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shy wyvern

How are you temps under that air cooler? I was planning to do a 12600k build with a 240 aio because it supposedly runs so hot and I would like to overclock it a bit.

vernal cosmos Nov 13, 2021, 3:04 PM

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subtle crow How are you temps under that air cooler? I was planning to do a 12600k build wit...

I wouldnt recommend overclocking on alder lake yet

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:05 PM

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vernal cosmos I wouldnt recommend overclocking on alder lake yet

Why not?

vernal cosmos Nov 13, 2021, 3:09 PM

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vast meadow Why not?

Safe voltages unknown

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So too risky

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Fair

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Best z690 overclocking board for the money on newegg ?

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:23 PM

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msi a pro

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:23 PM

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this looks decent

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:24 PM

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you don't need to spend that much

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:25 PM

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cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144504

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Same board but cheaper here

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:29 PM

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US vs CA

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it's the same price :p

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Oh wait cad

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Alright I thought it was us

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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them weak dollars

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Yeah that's the one

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It's the best value for everything

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The vrms in it is also plenty for lots of cases

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Unless you oc with ln2 or something

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:31 PM

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yeah so those "40+20+10 POWER PHASE !!!" adverts confuse me

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unsure why I need to care about that

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Commanding Power Design: 16+1+2 Twin Hybrid Digital VRM Design with 90A DrMOS with Tantalum Polymer Capacitors

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almost sounds like a joke reading this

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guess I'm not literate enough in overclock jargon

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:33 PM

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ye

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:35 PM

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@misty obsidian for what cpu? And what features you looking for? Ddr4 or ddr5?

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:35 PM

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thinking of 12700k + ddr5

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just going to look at the boxes on my desk for a couple months until I can actually get ddr5

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no hurry

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current 7700k is doing me fine in the mean time

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Keep in mind ddr5 low availablity

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:36 PM

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yeah I'll wait

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I'm thinking CPU and motherboards going to be in a shortage by the time the RAM is available lol

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Any features you want in particular btw?@misty obsidian

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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misty obsidian `Commanding Power Design: 16+1+2 Twin Hybrid Digital VRM Design with 90A DrMOS w...

Because it can matter

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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misty obsidian I'm thinking CPU and motherboards going to be in a shortage by the time the RAM ...

Doubt it

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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those parts are least likely to go outta stock

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Twinned so it's 8+1+1 with a 10 phase pwm controller I assume

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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the ram is pain point

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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90a chokes are good

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Like do you want wifi etc?

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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wifi no

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Any other features?

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:39 PM

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decent sound, to drive audio technica dumb headphones

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dumb as in they aren't USB with their own sound card

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:39 PM

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For high end headphones you'll want an amp

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:40 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-z690-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145345

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Actual output of digital signals may vary depending on the playback content and software used, and an external DAC is required.

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Yea separate dac/amp will be good

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Even just a 30$ Meizu dongle is a lot better than some of the best integrated audio chips like alc1220

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Audio Chipset Realtek ALC4080

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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I need an external dac/amp

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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I have no idea what those do

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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My laptop has noisy audio

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:41 PM

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anyways my current motherboard has a "dac" but unsure of it 's quality

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:42 PM

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Personally I'd grab this because 15$ more than a pro and wifi https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Pq7G3C/asus-prime-z690-p-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-z690-p-wifi

Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:42 PM

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https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-ix-hero-model/

ROG MAXIMUS IX HERO | ROG Maximus | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Repub...

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‧ES9023P High Definition DAC

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currently have this in my motherboard

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:42 PM

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misty obsidian https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-z690-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145345

This is nice but way more expensive than you need

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:42 PM

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@misty obsidian onboard dac/amp are just crap compared to dedicated options, I would buy a separate dedicated dac/amp

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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yeah so it's not that great eh

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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misty obsidian https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-maximus/rog-maximus-ix-hero-model/

Don't think i could ever recommend a maximus motherboard

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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kind of expected it

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Anyways, Meizu dongle or apple dongle will be better than the onboard sound chip

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Are those decent for gaming ?

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:44 PM

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And those are relatively low end options

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And yea

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:44 PM

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so it just detects the rating of your headphones and adapts ?

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you plug that in the USB-C in the back of your mobo ?

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:45 PM

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...?

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:45 PM

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hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:45 PM

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The amp in it makes it louder, dac gives you good sound

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Amp is amplifier, dac is digital to analog converter

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Meizu dongle has a good dac for the price

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:46 PM

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yeah audio stuff is money ahaha

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hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:46 PM

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I mean

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Have you seen he-1?

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40,000 USD for a headphone

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:(

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:47 PM

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lol

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kind of thing my dad would buy

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:47 PM

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But if you want mid end amp/dac, Schiit fulla

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Slightly higher, zen dac

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:47 PM

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I don't, I just want my sound not to be crackly and inadequate for my fairly normal headphones

hollow thorn Nov 13, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Above that, Schiit stack (modi 3+magni 3)

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Just telling you options

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 3:48 PM

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https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/ath-ad700x

ATH-AD700X

With a lightweight honeycomb aluminum casing, these open-air headphones produce no sense of pressure on the ears, offering a completely natural listening experience. Newly designed 53 mm drivers w ...

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dont need much of an amp for that

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 4:06 PM

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do K and KF intel CPU have any difference in thermal ?

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like the KF runs cooler because of less parts laying around ?

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 4:06 PM

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misty obsidian do K and KF intel CPU have any difference in thermal ?

Nope

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If it does its like less than 1c

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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30$ cheaper for a major feature is kind of a moot point, might sell to someone one day who wants to use it with the igpu

cursive epoch Nov 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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The igpu just simply gets disabled

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The igpu part is still in there

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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loll wow

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maybe it's just bricked on certain units

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 4:08 PM

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misty obsidian 30$ cheaper for a major feature is kind of a moot point, might sell to someone o...

I wouldn't worry about person buying it wanting a igpu, i assume you already have a gpu now? So question is if you want to use intel quicksync or the igpu if you have to debug stuff

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 4:08 PM

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misty obsidian maybe it's just bricked on certain units

It's disabled because it doesn't meet the standards

misty obsidian Nov 13, 2021, 4:09 PM

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interesting !

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yeah if my GPU has issues it's nice to have an igpu

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i'll take it

devout mothBOT Nov 13, 2021, 4:55 PM

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warm bolt Nov 13, 2021, 5:27 PM

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wtf is this shi?

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What are they smoking?

round palm Nov 13, 2021, 5:30 PM

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lol is this from a scalper

warm bolt Nov 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Ik but they are high

round palm Nov 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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surprised scalpers have a platform on newegg or am i reading the situation wrong?

rocky beacon Nov 13, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Those scalpers have already been reported

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 5:36 PM

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round palm surprised scalpers have a platform on newegg or am i reading the situation wrong...

They're just 3rd party sellers that will most likely get banned soon, same thing happens with Amazon etc

grizzled bloom Nov 13, 2021, 8:03 PM

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warm bolt wtf is this shi?

You can email fairpricing@newegg.com the link and scalpers like that get taken down

oak prawn Nov 13, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Hello guys

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Does anyone know a good cpu for cheap price?

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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oak prawn Does anyone know a good cpu for cheap price?

What price you looking for/budget of whole system?

oak prawn Nov 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Um…

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300

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@vast meadow 300$

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 11:44 PM

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oak prawn <@!191276897227898880> 300$

For cpu or whole pc?

oak prawn Nov 13, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Cpu

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Or gpu

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Which ever you can find

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 11:45 PM

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oak prawn Cpu

Huh? Cpu and GPU aren't interchangeable?

oak prawn Nov 13, 2021, 11:46 PM

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I’m looking for a very good ryzen cpu for 300)

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$*

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 11:46 PM

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@oak prawn do you have a pc atm you're trying to upgrade or?

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I'm a bit confused since you asked about gpu

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Also is it for gaming or other tasks?

oak prawn Nov 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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I’m just starting to build a pc I’m new

vast meadow Nov 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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oak prawn I’m just starting to build a pc I’m new

Okay, what's your whole pc budget? Have you bought anything yet? And what wil you be using it for?

clever mango Nov 13, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Yo when the ram is more than my rig

oak prawn Nov 14, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Haven’t bought nun

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I’m gonna buy my cpu first

vast meadow Nov 14, 2021, 12:16 AM

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@oak prawn btw it's better to buy all at once, just incase you get a dead part, you don't wan it to be out of the return window, and when will you have the money to buy it all, because if that's more than like 2-3 weeks away, a list i make you now wont probably be super relevant

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 1:16 AM

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General thoughts on DDR4 vs DDR5 for an Alder Lake board? I chose DDR4 since I just decided to not buy new ram. Also it's literally a casual game rig. Only upgrading since I'm finding my i5 6600K is starting to bottleneck in certain games (I'm staring at you, Forza Horizon 5.)

vast meadow Nov 14, 2021, 1:18 AM

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wise hare General thoughts on DDR4 vs DDR5 for an Alder Lake board? I chose DDR4 since I j...

Ddr4 is fine for gaming yeah, I'd usually recommend 3600cl16 for 12th gen if going ddr4, 3200cl16 is probs fine too

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If going like 12900k/production stuff ddr5 definitely

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 1:20 AM

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That's what I thought. I have 3200 at the moment, eventually I'll look at a 3600 kit maybe. Priorities, priorities.

vast meadow Nov 14, 2021, 1:22 AM

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wise hare That's what I thought. I have 3200 at the moment, eventually I'll look at a 3600...

Ehh if you already have 3200 i don't think it's worth the jump tbh

grizzled bloom Nov 14, 2021, 1:32 AM

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DDR5 is really only better on the 12900k and even then you need ridiculously expensive memory or a lot of luck buying a cheaper kit and overclocking it.

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 1:44 AM

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How do download amd drivers?

cursive epoch Nov 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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amd site

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Can you tell me what steps l have to take

cursive epoch Nov 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/support

AMD Drivers and Support

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Just get into this and specify your amd hardware

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Like gpu, then which gpu model and blah blah

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Or chipset drivers, anything you need

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 2:46 AM

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Ok thank you

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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I have a 5600g which one do l pick?

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Its not hard

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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The 5600 series?

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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No the 1600 series

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I mean it says 5600g

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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What?

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:42 AM

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5600 g

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Why will it not be 5000 series

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:42 AM

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I am trying to install amd drivers

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Oh really?

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:42 AM

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I am just making sure

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5600xt?

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:43 AM

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Thought u were trying to get intel cpu drivers

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:43 AM

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No

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:43 AM

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gilded cape 5600xt?

Thats not a real cpu

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:43 AM

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I fixed the aio problem btw

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:43 AM

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Also do you have a 5600xt

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Also download chipset drivers

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:44 AM

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How do l do that? I don’t have a gpu just a 5600g

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Im pretty sure ull only find that ryzen master bs if you look for cpu drivers

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:44 AM

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gilded cape How do l do that? I don’t have a gpu just a 5600g

Same website

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Figure it out

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:45 AM

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Is this it?

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Or no do l go into chipsets?

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:49 AM

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No no u go into server accelerators to download chipset drivers when there is an option to download chipset drivers right there

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Why on earh will the chipset drivers be under the option that says chipset drivers

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How does that make sense

gilded cape Nov 14, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Do l go into processors with graphics? You don’t understand how new l am to pc

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Unless you are new to common sense and english as well you can figure it out

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 3:52 AM

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vast meadow Ehh if you already have 3200 i don't think it's worth the jump tbh

Well in that case, I'll hold off! Lol maybe I'll save up to eventually replace my GTX 1070.

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Yeah 3200 ram is fine tbh

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3600 is no e to have but not necessary

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 3:53 AM

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I'm running 16gig right now, and honestly I haven't had any issues with that either so I'm not sure that I'll look at 32gb kits anytime soon either.

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Why do you need to upgrade ram btw?

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16gb is plenty for games

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 4:01 AM

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I don't need to, I was more curious if people thought a ram upgrade was worth it considering I've gotten a new chipset and CPU on the way

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 4:10 AM

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What cpu is this

wise hare Nov 14, 2021, 4:13 AM

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12700k. I wanted a 12600k but I couldn't get one shipped in a decent amount of time.

opal olive Nov 14, 2021, 8:15 AM

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hey guys

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so i changed my thermal paste on my cpu like 3 days ago i think

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and for some reason my cpu is way hotter now than it was before

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althought i probably put more thermal paste than less

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idk what the problem is at this point

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 8:24 AM

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Improper mount im willing to bet

opal olive Nov 14, 2021, 8:25 AM

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nah pretty sure i mounted it correctly

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it's just 2 clips

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i heard it clip i even checked

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and for some reason it hits 30% usage in chrome

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but wait

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does putting it on ryzen high performance mode in power options have to do with it?

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like the high temps

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by high temps i mean it randomly jumps to 65C on idle

vernal cosmos Nov 14, 2021, 9:46 AM

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Idle temps dont matter