#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 230

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Yeah, you'll still need to get new ram though, ddr3 hasn't been used since like 2014

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Can i get a budget though? Even ball park?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:32 PM

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About $500... can be more or less, depending how much I am improving

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Okay, well anything will be a big improvement over what you have atm but I'll see what we can do for 500

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I'm guessing you're gaming?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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ahahaha Thanks!

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And yes, I do game

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Also are you in the us or somewhere else?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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US

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:34 PM

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And do you live near a micro center?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:34 PM

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I'm @ MA

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:35 PM

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Sorry what? I'm not familiar with all the codes for states etc

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:35 PM

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Sorry, I am in Massachusetts

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Boston.

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Ahh okay

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:36 PM

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(I don't know if there are microcenters near me, but it is a big tech center)

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:37 PM

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That's fine, their site says there's one in Cambridge, MA but that's all for you

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It's fine tho, just a nice option for cpus and motherboard combo deals

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:37 PM

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nice! Close by! 🙂

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Ohh that's close?

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Great

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:37 PM

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indeed. Well, of course, Boston traffic can mean same amount of time I can get to New York, but I can drive there 😄

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Well i mean if it's too much out of your way then it's no harm just nice if you live near one

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:40 PM

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true. But I am fine building it on my own, I just haven't followed the technology so I don't feel current enough to buy without checking first 🙂

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And believe me, you already helped me with the memory... I thought it would be compatible with the new MB.

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Haha sure it happens, are you looking to have 16gb or ram again?

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And possibility of going to 32gb in the future?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Yeah. That would be sweet. Can be less, and I am not a power gamer and never really felt I needed more... but why go down? 😄

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Okay yeah, 16gb is what I'd recommend anyway, 8 is not enough these days

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Also what case do you have? Just to make sure the cooler fits

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Also do you think you'll ever upgrade your soon to be new pc to 32gb or ram?

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:47 PM

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It's a Rosewill RANGER Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147061?Item=N82E16811147061

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Okay perfect, just making sure the cooler i picked out fits

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Well, this MB/CPU stuck with me for almost a decade, so yeah, if this CPU/MB lasts me that long, I may upgrade to 32 at some point

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...I never close the door to upgrades 🙂

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:52 PM

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rustic radish Well, this MB/CPU stuck with me for almost a decade, so yeah, if this CPU/MB las...

Okay, in that case I'd do this as it's the same price as 2 16gb kits but don't have any fuss about different imc's on the ram causing issues etc and this way you wouldn't have to buy twice https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yTTxnL

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rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

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That looks perfect!!! And right on the ballpark! 🙂

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

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The 10700 is micro center btw

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Happy to help

rustic radish Oct 28, 2021, 10:53 PM

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You are the best!!! Thank you!!!

vast meadow Oct 28, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Np :) enjoy

wind karma Oct 28, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Poll:
A. buy a 5600x now and sell my 3600x

B. wait for black friday, buy 5600x, sell 3600x

grizzled bloom Oct 28, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I vote C, wait for zen 3 refresh in a couple months. Up to 15% or so better and fits current socket.

untold jay Oct 28, 2021, 11:40 PM

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I have an issue with my motherboards audio

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so yesterday i got a small set of desktop speakers and i was gonna try and plug them in alongside my headset. so i plug them in and mess around in the realtek audio control panel so that they will mix properly with voicemeeter and now the only audio that works is HDMI audio to my moniter

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and my headset is a bit staticy

naive pendant Oct 29, 2021, 12:51 AM

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grizzled bloom I vote C, wait for zen 3 refresh in a couple months. Up to 15% or so better and ...

or d, go X99 YEAAAAAA (joking)

wind karma Oct 29, 2021, 12:52 AM

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grizzled bloom I vote C, wait for zen 3 refresh in a couple months. Up to 15% or so better and ...

Think I'll still be able to get something for sub $300 and sell my cureent one for 150+ ?

grizzled bloom Oct 29, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Probably, I don't think prices will change that much

hoary echo Oct 29, 2021, 2:20 AM

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is it bad having a cpu at 95c for more than 90 mins?

grizzled bloom Oct 29, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Not exactly good for it but it's got those limits for a reason

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 2:25 AM

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For laptops, more common and reasonable than on desktop

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 2:26 AM

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^

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That's pretty expected for a nitro 5 ngl

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Unless you repaste with something better than factory paste

hoary echo Oct 29, 2021, 2:30 AM

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i will probs repaste soonish

naive pendant Oct 29, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Your laptop isnt that old though right? I dont see why it would need repasting. You can try undervolting the CPU with throttlestop. That's usually the best first option to take. No need to risk damaging anything by taking apart your laptop @hoary echo

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laptops these days dont really like being taken apart lol

limber dragon Oct 29, 2021, 4:27 AM

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laptops in general dont like being taken apart

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I think my record is only 3 tabs being broken off a non macbook

naive pendant Oct 29, 2021, 4:31 AM

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congrats lol

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surgeon hand

devout mothBOT Oct 29, 2021, 4:35 AM

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TheYeetStreet#7946 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hoary echo Oct 29, 2021, 4:41 AM

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sorry i meant that i dislike intel

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and i tried undervolting

naive pendant Oct 29, 2021, 4:50 AM

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by how much?

hoary echo Oct 29, 2021, 5:12 AM

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it wouldnt let me undervolt by any amount

umbral finch Oct 29, 2021, 5:23 AM

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is the core i9 12900k better than the ryzen 5950x?

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and if yes is it better than all cpus in the market

vernal cosmos Oct 29, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Epyc 7763 master race

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 7:05 AM

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I haven't broken any tabs myself ngl with a laptop

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If you're careful with it, like pretty careful. It's fine

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But don't be so scared about it either

vernal cosmos Oct 29, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Yeah I have taken apart 3 laptops and all still work

naive pendant Oct 29, 2021, 8:05 AM

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^

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its just REALLY annoying if you mess something up

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like breaking a ribbon cable clip

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or tab

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well the clips dont usually break but just come off

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which is still annoying

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 8:07 AM

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yep

hoary echo Oct 29, 2021, 8:28 AM

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for some reason i just cant undervolt my cpu and it pisses me off because i dislike 95c

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 8:30 AM

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10th gen is locked from undervolting

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Cause Intel got scared of a vulnerability where if the chip gets undervolted, like unstable levels of undervolt that you can't even use reliably every day just to get the cpu to spew out data

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It's them being too paranoid tbh

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But ah well, can't do anything when it's locked like that

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 8:57 AM

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wind karma Poll: A. buy a 5600x now and sell my 3600x B. wait for black friday, buy 5600x...

I also vote c, it will actually make the jump more worth the money you're loosing on the upgrade

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 12:42 PM

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umbral finch is the core i9 12900k better than the ryzen 5950x?

That’s what leaks an intel’s own benchmarks would suggest, I would strongly recommend waiting at least a little while till we know more about the cpu

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Intel's own benches?

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People have tested it with like 3dmark and such

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That's not Intel's tests for sure lmao

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It sure leads 5950X, but by how much I can't be sure

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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cursive epoch People have tested it with like 3dmark and such

Source?

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

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So many sources says either a huge or not that big jump

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The 3dmark might be wrong

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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:p

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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But I do fondly remember cpu-z

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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i mean it makes sense if you think about it

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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And cinebench

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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rkl was matching 5800x, and the big cores are going to be at least a bit better

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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ye

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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and the small cores have cometlake IPC, which has been confirmed on goldmont atoms

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

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It seems reasonable

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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so 4ghz of cometlake/skylake + 5ghz of better than rocketlake beating 5950x isn't really a stretch

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Someone already oc'd the heck outta the 12900k

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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I'd still wait for reviewer benches tho

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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And got it to 6.8

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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cursive epoch Someone already oc'd the heck outta the 12900k

They usually do that before launch

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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The efficiency cores are at 6.7

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Make some world records

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Which is nice

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Atom cores are now so strong lmao

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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cunning ingot so 4ghz of cometlake/skylake + 5ghz of better than rocketlake beating 5950x isn'...

Dunno in multi thread

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Maybe not a huge stretch but still seems unlikely to me

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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well 11900k already beats 5800x

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Multi does take lead

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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and the big cores are better

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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It's wildly fluctuating tho in leaks

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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in alder

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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So Imma wait for actual reviews

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 PM

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cunning ingot well 11900k already beats 5800x

Depends on bench

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And I still wouldn't want to say anything concrete without reviewer benchmarks

cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

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I'm more curious of impact between ddr4 and ddr5

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Cause ddr5 is so expensive rn

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~~but z690 is cool tho for me~~

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Now has 8x pcie 4.0 lanes on chipset

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And integrated ax wifi

burnt spear Oct 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

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cursive epoch And got it to 6.8

I thought that was a clickbait article

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Didn't think it was real

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 1:03 PM

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cursive epoch I'm more curious of impact between ddr4 and ddr5

True

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I’m surprised intel didn’t release anything on that

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I mean even a percent increase in performance would have given us some idea

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 1:14 PM

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subtle crow That’s what leaks an intel’s own benchmarks would suggest, I would strongly reco...

Yes butttt those benchmarks require a big mountain of salt as 1 it's 1st party, so they can cherry pick, but 2, it was on windows 11 before the ryzen fix@umbral finch

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 1:15 PM

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cunning ingot well 11900k already beats 5800x

So does the 10900k in many situations tbf 😆

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 1:15 PM

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yeah

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 1:17 PM

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subtle crow I mean even a percent increase in performance would have given us some idea

Thing is, what do you test? B die ddr4 vs some of the of kits for ddr5? Or jdec or like there's so many memory configs and there's no 3200cl16 equivalent on ddr5, that we know of yet at least

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 1:20 PM

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Yeah, it would just be nice to know what you’re getting yourself into when choosing DDR4 or 5 with alder lake

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 1:22 PM

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subtle crow Yeah, it would just be nice to know what you’re getting yourself into when choos...

Well there's 100% gonna be a noticeable difference between the 2, just don't know how much it's gonna be

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 1:25 PM

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If alder lake really performs like Intel wants to think it does, then boy do I need to upgrade.

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Imo by the specs in your name sounds like you could have used one like a year ago but yeah lol

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Lol, I could have used an upgrade 8 years ago

dim geyser Oct 29, 2021, 2:10 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164185?Item=N82E16820164185

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That memory is 20% off as part of todays newegg email. Is that a good deal? My current partial build I am putting together for a christmas present. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cz2f68

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cursive epoch Oct 29, 2021, 2:21 PM

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yep

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Crucial ballistix is nice

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 2:22 PM

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dim geyser That memory is 20% off as part of todays newegg email. Is that a good deal? My c...

Yes it's great ram and btw I'd go for the p31 gold over the sn850 also you don't have to pay for windows if you don't like the water mark

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I'd recommend getting an msi agf psu as well

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 2:26 PM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/ddr5-4800-ddr4-3200-alder-lake-benchmarks

Tom's Hardware

DDR5-4800 Clashes With DDR4-3200 In Alder Lake Benchmarks

New school vs old school

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 2:42 PM

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subtle crow https://www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/ddr5-4800-ddr4-3200-alder-lake-benchmarks

I mean did they compare 4800cl40 to 3200cl16 or 3200 jedec(cl22?)? Cuz 4800cl40 is jedec

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 2:44 PM

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That’s the annoying thing, alder lake is better, but we’re not getting any details

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 2:47 PM

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subtle crow That’s the annoying thing, alder lake is better, but we’re not getting any detai...

I can't believe they didn't say if the ddr4 was jedec or not

subtle crow Oct 29, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Maybe it’s some weird marketing move

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Idk tbh

dim geyser Oct 29, 2021, 3:03 PM

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@vast meadow Some of those are placeholders. In general everyone is recommending the P31 Gold. Also why did you specifically choose a MSI AGF PSU? I dont know much about Power supplies anymore. As far as what brands are good. I know some sites have preferences probably biased by sponsors. Seasonic is talked about fairly often. I also like Corsair PSUs unless they have gone down in quality.

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Do I need more than 16 GB for gaming and light workstation stuff?

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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dim geyser <@!191276897227898880> Some of those are placeholders. In general everyone is re...

Good and cheap ish top tier power supply

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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dim geyser <@!191276897227898880> Some of those are placeholders. In general everyone is re...

modelbrand

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:08 PM

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dim geyser Do I need more than 16 GB for gaming and light workstation stuff?

Ehh depends what you define as light workstation stuff

dim geyser Oct 29, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I am an IT admin so I would like to use it to troubleshoot equipment and have it handle some minor work projects. I just wanna make sure 16GB is enough for gaming and gives me some headroom. I'd hate to decide to upgrade down the road and find out I can't slot in two more 8GB sticks because they aren't an ideal match to the Ballistix I linked earlier

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:11 PM

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dim geyser I am an IT admin so I would like to use it to troubleshoot equipment and have it...

Ballistix is the best option for possible upgrades tbh as they only use 2 dies which means compatibility without issues is pretty high, but it really depends on what your work projects include, for majority of people 16gb is enough but if you think you might use more, there's no downside (bar money) going with 32gb

dim geyser Oct 29, 2021, 3:13 PM

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After the 20% off code those Ballistix come down to $64. A quick review on PCPartPicker current pricing shows that is a pretty good sale.

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Looking over even the 32 GB (2x16GB) kits.... it seems like 2 of these kits would be a better buy if there isn't a downside to populating all slots.

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:22 PM

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dim geyser Looking over even the 32 GB (2x16GB) kits.... it seems like 2 of these kits woul...

Technically there's they don't have to both work together but they should so i wouldn't worry about it, it's very good ram and there's no room for upgradability to 64gb if you needed that for some reason but yeah, if you don't mind running a ram stress test if you get both of the kits, should take 3 hours or so with 32gb of ram just to make sure there's no issues then there's no issue

dim geyser Oct 29, 2021, 3:29 PM

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@vast meadow when you say stress test are we talking like memtest?

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 3:34 PM

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dim geyser <@!191276897227898880> when you say stress test are we talking like memtest?

Yeah, I'd personally use test mem5 extreme anta profile but yeah that kind of test

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 3:57 PM

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vast meadow I mean did they compare 4800cl40 to 3200cl16 or 3200 jedec(cl22?)? Cuz 4800cl40 ...

They also don't know if the 4800 kit is running jedec

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Occt also has a memory test

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 4:01 PM

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hollow thorn They also don't know if the 4800 kit is running jedec

It said cl40 in the article no?

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Ahh nvm

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It said if it sticks to jedec it would be cl40

hollow thorn Oct 29, 2021, 4:02 PM

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If the memory modules stick to JEDEC's specifications, they should be rated with a CAS Latency (CL) of 40.

vast meadow Oct 29, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Yeah just noticed that

cunning ingot Oct 29, 2021, 5:21 PM

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HuH

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userbenchmark

leaden iron Oct 29, 2021, 8:28 PM

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So... I just installed an 8gb stick of ram in addition to the 4gb stick I already had. I always hear you shouldn't install nonidentical sticks, but I wanted to try it to see if my system could manage. What can I do to test it to make sure there won't be any future issues?

grizzled bloom Oct 29, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Run testmem5 anta extreme profile and/or OCCT memory test for an hour

leaden iron Oct 29, 2021, 9:04 PM

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grizzled bloom Run testmem5 anta extreme profile and/or OCCT memory test for an hour

Okay, thank you

slender wyvern Oct 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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i see ddr5 is avail on corsair website anyone know what motherboard supports it?

subtle crow Oct 30, 2021, 12:37 AM

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at least on newegg some mobos support DDR5 and some support DDR4 for LGA 1700

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typically the DDR4 boards are the cheaper options

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but they all specify DDR4 or DDR5

slender wyvern Oct 30, 2021, 12:39 AM

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hmmm

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looks like only intel

subtle crow Oct 30, 2021, 12:43 AM

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um... well, AMD has no DDR5 compatible CPUs or boards

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so yeah, all intel

slender wyvern Oct 30, 2021, 12:43 AM

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i see

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they finally got ahead

subtle crow Oct 30, 2021, 12:44 AM

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DDR5 is basically untested, the only x86 DDR5 CPUs were opened to pre-order 2 days ago and won't deliver till the 4th

slender wyvern Oct 30, 2021, 12:44 AM

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yeah

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new tech

subtle crow Oct 30, 2021, 12:45 AM

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AMD will support DDR5 next year I think with their new Zen 4 processors

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but you'll have to wait awhile for that

slender wyvern Oct 30, 2021, 12:46 AM

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yeah

naive pendant Oct 30, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Is their a big brain that can help me

subtle crow Oct 30, 2021, 1:00 AM

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I don't think any of the pros are on at the moment

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but if you ask your question you're more likely to get it answered

naive pendant Oct 30, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Can I put my first m.2 ssd into any m.2 slot

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I have a z490 g vision paired wit the 10600k

vital field Oct 30, 2021, 1:16 AM

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you can but normally itd be easier to just put it in the first slot, top one if you can

naive pendant Oct 30, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Long story short I think I’d look stupid

hoary echo Oct 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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does memory frequency affect performance much on intel laptop cpus?

cursive epoch Oct 30, 2021, 2:52 AM

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It does

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But your laptop very likely comes with 3200 already

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Single channel maybe

hoary echo Oct 30, 2021, 3:58 AM

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it comes with 8gb single channel 2933

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and i want to upgrade

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 8:01 AM

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slender wyvern i see ddr5 is avail on corsair website anyone know what motherboard supports it?

For the love of everything don't buy Corsair ddr5 it's stupid expensive and bad, only motherboards that support ddr5 atm is z690

cursive epoch Oct 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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^

cyan raft Oct 30, 2021, 11:35 AM

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I’m only upgrading to DDR5 if I have to for whatever reason

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I’m not too keen on being an early adopter for things because I did at one point and it bent me over

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cough cough RTX 20 series

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 11:51 AM

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cyan raft I’m only upgrading to DDR5 if I have to for whatever reason

Well i mean you don't have a reason to for a few years anyway, i mean you could see what zen3d is like if you need more single core as well

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But damm am i tempted to go 13th gen/am5

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Im sticking with my ddr4 for Alder lake

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Bad decision imho

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Time to spend $800 on a new upgrade and a friend of mine is getting an upgrade of my current Z590 and 11600k from a FX amd cpu that claims 8 cores (8 threads in reality its only a 4 core cpu)

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And im going for the I7-12700K and a Z690 cause i don't want to blow another $800+ on 128gb of ram again for ddr5 just yet

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 12:38 PM

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dim cloak And im going for the I7-12700K and a Z690 cause i don't want to blow another $80...

Do you need 128gb?

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Also fair enough if you actually need that much ram

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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vast meadow Do you need 128gb?

Some go to minecraft server/ resource and shaders i use as well as mods and other portion go towards cpu/memory heavy tasks

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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I see

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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I have managed to rip 98% ram usage out of my current kit so yeahh.. Fun

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Fair enough reason to stick with ddr4

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Yep

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I even have it to 3600mhz

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Ballistix right? If so i would consider ocing it if you don't mind spending a few hours

dim cloak Oct 30, 2021, 1:15 PM

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I would definitely need help doing that so i dont turn the whole system into an airfryer

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Lol

upper aspen Oct 30, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Will this backplate

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https://www.amazon.com/Shield-Backplate-Bracket-Gigabyte-AB350-Gaming/dp/B097DLYKL7/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=backplate+for+B450M&qid=1635609340&sr=8-2

IO I/O Shield Backplate Blende Bracket for Gigabyte AB350-Gaming B4...

IO I/O Shield Backplate Blende Bracket for Gigabyte AB350-Gaming B450M DS3H

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fit this mobo https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-v2/p/13-145-252

cyan raft Oct 30, 2021, 4:27 PM

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doesnt an io shield come with the mobo?

cursive epoch Oct 30, 2021, 4:28 PM

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yes

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mobos come with io shield already

upper aspen Oct 30, 2021, 4:31 PM

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cyan raft doesnt an io shield come with the mobo?

yes but it this one had an io shield missing from the box so I have to order another one

cursive epoch Oct 30, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Should fit

upper aspen Oct 30, 2021, 4:37 PM

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thx

vast meadow Oct 30, 2021, 5:25 PM

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upper aspen https://www.amazon.com/Shield-Backplate-Bracket-Gigabyte-AB350-Gaming/dp/B097DLY...

Looks spot on

hoary echo Oct 31, 2021, 12:17 AM

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would upgrading from 8gb of 2933 to 16gb of 2666 be worth it?

upper aspen Oct 31, 2021, 12:18 AM

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hoary echo would upgrading from 8gb of 2933 to 16gb of 2666 be worth it?

yeah, 8gb is not good enough for gaming these days

hoary echo Oct 31, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Yea and I have heard that on Intel the mhz doesn't matter as much as it does on ryzen

grizzled bloom Oct 31, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Faster is still better but yeah, it's not as significant as ryzen.

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 1:10 AM

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is it weird to have 32gb 4x8 put one my of my ram to another pc which has no ram to it😂

limber dragon Oct 31, 2021, 1:11 AM

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yeah, motherboard will have imbalanced memory channels, and OS might become unstable/corrupted

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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so i have to take out 2of my stick?

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to make it balance?

limber dragon Oct 31, 2021, 1:14 AM

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correct

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Okay got it thank you

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 9:17 AM

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anyone know if z590 asrock pro 4 have wifi built in?

cursive epoch Oct 31, 2021, 9:25 AM

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nope

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 9:52 AM

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Also just wouldn't recommend asrock z490/z590

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 10:34 AM

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came in a bundle sadly

loud escarp Oct 31, 2021, 12:27 PM

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just put in my new cpu

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 12:29 PM

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errant grail came in a bundle sadly

Sell and get another

cursive epoch Oct 31, 2021, 12:33 PM

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^

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Hey everyone 👍

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Does anyone have a recommendation for some ram that is a good speed but affordable price?

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16 or 32gb preferably

burnt spear Oct 31, 2021, 1:20 PM

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solid forum Does anyone have a recommendation for some ram that is a good speed but affordab...

What cpu do you have and what's your budget

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 1:42 PM

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solid forum Does anyone have a recommendation for some ram that is a good speed but affordab...

For what cpu?

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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vast meadow For what cpu?

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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burnt spear What cpu do you have and what's your budget

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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solid forum AMD Ryzen 3 3300X

Are you in the us ?

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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vast meadow Are you in the us ?

UK

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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burnt spear What cpu do you have and what's your budget

Budget probably £250 max

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Okay 1 sec

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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solid forum UK

Ehh i wouldn't really bother pairing more than 16gb of ram with that cpu btw

hollow thorn Oct 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Depends on application in the end

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Some things just eat ram

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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vast meadow Ehh i wouldn't really bother pairing more than 16gb of ram with that cpu btw

16gb would be fine. Should I look at a mobo upgrade?

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Nah

hollow thorn Oct 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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What motherboard though?

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Mobo upgrade 99.9% of time should only happen when upgrading cpu

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Unless you have like an a320 board

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fDn8TW/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4r but I'd get this ram

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

hollow thorn Oct 31, 2021, 2:27 PM

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As long as not a320, that ram will do nicely

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:28 PM

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hollow thorn What motherboard though?

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Nice board

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No need to upgrade

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:29 PM

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vast meadow Nice board

Ah good. Was worried it might be too old for anything decent.

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Nope

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If anything I'd consider upgrading your cpu depending on what you use your pc for

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 2:39 PM

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vast meadow If anything I'd consider upgrading your cpu depending on what you use your pc fo...

Was hoping for games mostly, but I need a new graphics card too really.

brittle stirrup Oct 31, 2021, 3:07 PM

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anybody know if i can upgrade the ram on a acer swift 3 SF314-42-R0PK?

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 3:43 PM

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solid forum Was hoping for games mostly, but I need a new graphics card too really.

3300x is a pretty decent cpu so yeah depending on your budget and what you have now, i would keep most of your budget for a new gpu

solid forum Oct 31, 2021, 6:14 PM

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vast meadow 3300x is a pretty decent cpu so yeah depending on your budget and what you have ...

I’ve got a gtx 970 at the moment.

vast meadow Oct 31, 2021, 6:19 PM

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solid forum I’ve got a gtx 970 at the moment.

Still a decent gpu, depends on your budget for an upgrade if you could actually do much better than that atm

errant grail Oct 31, 2021, 6:55 PM

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@vernal cosmos ah its not really me gonna use it its my parent using it but its fine it has ether anyways she wont be gaming on it im only gonna take the graphics out of it😂

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Still

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What you do on a crap mobo doesnt make it stop being a crap mobo

wind nest Oct 31, 2021, 8:57 PM

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hollow thorn Some things just eat ram

Rust

dim cloak Oct 31, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Minecraft

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 9:31 PM

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dim cloak Minecraft

Perfectly possible to run win10 and minecraft on 2gb ram total

dim cloak Oct 31, 2021, 9:32 PM

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But what about shaders and resource packs to pull this level of detail

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Is that included with minecraft

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Does it come installed?

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I throw together a win 10 installer that sucks 10+ gb on the desktop

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That doesn't mean that win 10 is ram heavy

dim cloak Oct 31, 2021, 9:34 PM

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That was just a basic white flower which had to have its texture downscaled due to the atlas texture size being pushed past the 32k by 32k

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 9:34 PM

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And its not how most people play the game

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Texture packs of that type have a very small niche

dim cloak Oct 31, 2021, 9:35 PM

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But it was an example of ram can be eaten alive by it but more gpu bound as well

vernal cosmos Oct 31, 2021, 9:36 PM

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Just because you can install a 3rd party addon that is intensive, the game isnt termed as intensive

dim cloak Oct 31, 2021, 9:37 PM

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True

hollow thorn Oct 31, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Minecraft rtx

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but rust really is intensive

rigid condor Nov 1, 2021, 12:07 AM

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so i have a question, i am getting the i9 12th gen and the motherboard says its pcie gen 5 does that mean i need a gen 5 gpu and gen 5 ssd?

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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3070 v3070 ti

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is the difference that big

rigid condor Nov 1, 2021, 12:22 AM

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besides the cost and the 2 extra letters not really

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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rigid condor so i have a question, i am getting the i9 12th gen and the motherboard says its ...

No, they don’t even have any devices that utilize pcie 5 yet

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Pcie 4 or 3 devices should work perfectly fine

dim cloak Nov 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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naive pendant 3070 v3070 ti

The ti has a closer perf of a 3080 once overclocked but with less vram

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 5:41 AM

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So did the entire industry just basically give up on micro atx motherboards for threadripper?

vital field Nov 1, 2021, 5:48 AM

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probably considering matx in general is already somewhat niche and then to throw in a chip most consumers cant really afford nor take advantage of i mean

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creates a serious niche

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:49 AM

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I feel like a point of the Threadripper is all the PCIE lanes, being on an mATX or ITX board really limits that. I think its pointless in general.

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at that point, just get the Ryzen 5950x and save yourself some money

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 5:58 AM

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I really want it for the cores :p

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:03 AM

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short pond I really want it for the cores :p

for what

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also, why would you suffocate your cores with a smallish case?

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:11 AM

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I mean, I’ll happily spend the money for a high end liquid cooling setup to make up for it as much as possible, but running 6 OBS instances and a virtualized android instance

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Has my 5700g completely pegged

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:11 AM

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try it on a 5950x. thats 16 cores, 32 threads

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you can get an ITX or mATX mobo for those easy

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but also, what are you running 6 OBS instances for? lmao

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:13 AM

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One for twitch one for YouTube, then four isolated recording instances for editing afterwards

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:14 AM

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apparently there are engineering samples of 7900X's going for ~100 USD on ebay 🤔

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not sure if i should for for it or not

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:14 AM

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Which one? the 12core ones?

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:14 AM

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they're 10 core

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2.4ghz base 2.8 max boost i think

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:15 AM

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ah

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:15 AM

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not to emntion there are asus x299 deluxe boards going for around 200

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which seems oddly low

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I also found this xeon which seems interesting... https://www.ebay.com/itm/353723015602?

eBay

Intel Xeon W-2140B 3.2GHz 8-Core CPU SR3LK LGA2066 iMac Pro TESTED ...

Pulled from working iMac Pro. DIMM's tested. Full load stress test. Quick links. We do our best to process as quickly as possible.

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:16 AM

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I wouldn't know tbh. I don't really use intel

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:16 AM

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locked of course, but the value is there i think

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fair enough

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I have an AMD system but im more familiar with intel products actually lmao

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Ye it would be good for NAS for sure

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:16 AM

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maybe a little overkill depending on the scale of it

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Well yeah 😛

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Nothing wrong with some overkill

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:18 AM

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true, true

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too bad i never have the money to buy stuff when i need it lol

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:19 AM

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Dont feel too bad, I have money and what I seem to want generally doesnt exist

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Cause I’m dumb

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:19 AM

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I was thinking of redoing my portable desktop.

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:19 AM

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oh thatd be neat

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what platform is it currently on?

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and what do you use it for?

vernal cosmos Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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naive pendant what platform is it currently on?

Look his nick'

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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3700x/2070 Super. I took it with me for gaming on deployment.

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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Thats what I was hoping to build, a portable threadripper machine

vernal cosmos Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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finite elm 3700x/2070 Super. I took it with me for gaming on deployment.

Oh wait u have 2 pcs?

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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vernal cosmos Look his nick'

I have 3 PC's. the one in my nickname is my workstation

vernal cosmos Nov 1, 2021, 6:20 AM

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Ahhh makes sense

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U do serious game dev right?

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Ehhhh not really serious yet.

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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i have an x99 bench, my main system, and a 1U server i dont really use... lol

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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I am QA for a gaming studio though if that counts lol

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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nice

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:22 AM

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I hear that can be really tough

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:22 AM

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Yes

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Lots of hours, but right now its not too bad

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Due to covid we are only at 60% office capacity. I'm trying to shift to WFH but I dunno if they'll approve that.

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They buy us lunch everyday in the office though and the Vending machines are free so its not too bad.

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:23 AM

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I wanted to get an e5 2697v3 for my x99 bench since its only about 110 dollars rn, but man i need to prioritize what i want to spend my money on since there's so much stuff i want lol

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:24 AM

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10 hour shifts 4 days a week with 1 day as overtime

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:25 AM

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naive pendant I wanted to get an e5 2697v3 for my x99 bench since its only about 110 dollars r...

I legit bought 200$ of groceries today and 100+$ of alcohol. lmao just had to restock

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:25 AM

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dang.

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Im not really interested in drinking alchohol tbh, not sure why but it never got my interest

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plus with a condition i have its not really a good idea for me to anyway

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:26 AM

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my birthday is on tuesday so I figured why not

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:26 AM

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my birthday was a few months ago

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I got like, 60 bucks, and i was stressed getting ready for college, but it was alright

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for some reason i waited till 3 days before classes started to register all my stuff and get settled in my crappy dorm room

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:27 AM

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I buy myself my birthday gifts. don't really care what others do

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:27 AM

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i would if i could lol

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I have 2 expensive hobbies so it's hard deciding what i want lol

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:28 AM

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So far it looks like I'm getting Alcohol and a PS5 that already showed up ahaha

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I have one expensive hobby.

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:28 AM

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i recently bought myself a pretty nice x79 mobo, but i dont have a CPU for it that's unlocked lol

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yea im a PC hardware enthusiast and an audiophile so... 💀

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:28 AM

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nice nice

vernal cosmos Nov 1, 2021, 6:29 AM

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I have hobbies that are expensive but no moners

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:29 AM

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I would love to just build cool PC's for a living.

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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PCs Cameras, and miniature war gaming here

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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so yea, i wanna get those x299/lga2066 parts, but i also want that e5 2697v3, and an lga2011 cpu that i can OC, and a hifiman sundara, and i still need an external dac and portable headphone amp

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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I might do one of those Console PC builds and put a video online or something. but I don't wanna get a 5600g with the rdna2 apu's right around the corner lol

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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too much stuff, not enough money :(

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:30 AM

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God I wish PCs were the expensive one

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:31 AM

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@short pond Have you looked at Sony's 2000$ phone?

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:31 AM

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I have not

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:31 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Xperia-Portable-Transmission-Device-Smartphone/dp/B08S9CGBL2/

Xperia PRO Portable High Speed Transmission Device & Smartphone wit...

Xperia PRO Portable High Speed Transmission Device & Smartphone with HDMI Input, 6.5" 4K HDR OLED Screen, 5G mmWave

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:32 AM

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That’s neat

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I’m a Canon guy or that would be more interesting

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:32 AM

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its an accessory to Sony cameras which is kinda crazy lol

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:33 AM

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It’s…pretty on par with other professional grade control options

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:33 AM

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i like photography but ive never really been into it much

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i take cinematic screenshots in games every now and then lol

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Like, I thought I knew what expensive was hntil@I started buying professional stuff for cameras

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finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:34 AM

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Bleh

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I'd rather spend that just building pc's

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Well yeah, anyone who isn’t a professional cinematographer would likely agree with you

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:36 AM

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Need a new Backpack PC \

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I need on I can take on an airplane lol

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Yeah I had one that fit in the overhead or under the seat

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I switched cases for it cause I didn't like the case. so now I think I'd need to have a rolling luggage for it

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I might get a smallish pelican case and fabricate it into a PC sorta thing with a portable monitor in it.

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I’ve seen those, they’re cool

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Sadly my option is probably more something I can put in a pelican case and check it

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I wouldn't check it

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always my carry on

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:40 AM

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I’d rather not, but my carry on is mostly spoken for

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I can probably make space to remove the GPU and keep that with me

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Anyway, sleep time, nice chatting with you all

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:43 AM

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i dont wanna go to sleep even though its 2:40am for me

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i live on campus at my college and my housing situation is horrible

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Lol I just got off work

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:44 AM

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im sitting in a computer lab rn

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Share a dorm?

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:44 AM

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i was playing battlefield 1 since they have high hz displays here and ive never used one before except a few days ago

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yea.

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Yeah that can suck

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:45 AM

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Im a freshman, so of course i get the worst for everything

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useless classes, gross roomate, idiot floormates, etc.

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:45 AM

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Eh, it can be rough, but do your best to enjoy it, it’s a great time

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:45 AM

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not really much to enjoy in my situation

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besides some computer related stuff, but thats pretty much it

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:46 AM

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Find a good game store near you, magic, warmachine and hordes, stuff like that, awesome place to meet cool people and play some games

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How I met my best friends and my wife lol

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:47 AM

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game store?

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Yeah

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:47 AM

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short pond How I met my best friends and my wife lol

oh boy, i cant see myself getting a GF LOL

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:48 AM

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They usually have pretty good gaming communities

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:48 AM

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there's an esports club here but they only play valorant and league, which are two games im sick of hearing about and dislike

short pond Nov 1, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Eh, don’t go searching for one, just go hang out with people who like what you like and see what happens

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Yeah definitely look for a local game store

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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short pond Eh, don’t go searching for one, just go hang out with people who like what you l...

yea thats pretty much what i do

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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I met some guys at a local meadery that hosts weekly d&d games. You just need to find events and groups that match your interests.

naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:50 AM

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ive had a hard time finding any lol

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ive made 0 friends so far 💀

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then again i didnt really have friends in HS, or MS either

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i dont think im a weirdo so ill just sum it up to bad luck lol

devout mothBOT Nov 1, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Lost man#3269 has been warned

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naive pendant Nov 1, 2021, 6:59 AM

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kekw

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 12:09 PM

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When does the kf version of the 12700 release?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 12:10 PM

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warm bolt When does the kf version of the 12700 release?

Same time as 12700k, nov 4th

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 12:10 PM

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Why are only the k versions listed on sites then?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Are there?

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Are there what?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 12:12 PM

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@warm bolt https://www.bestbuy.com/site/intel-core-i7-12700kf-desktop-processor-12-8p-4e-cores-up-to-5-0-ghz-unlocked-lga1700-600-series-chipset-125w/6483674.p?skuId=6483674

Best Buy

Intel Core i7-12700KF Desktop Processor 12 (8P+4E) Cores up to 5.0 ...

Shop Intel Core i7-12700KF Desktop Processor 12 (8P+4E) Cores up to 5.0 GHz Unlocked LGA1700 600 Series Chipset 125W at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Hmm Ive only seen k listed on microcenter, newegg, and amazon. Stock bot only even has k listed as well.

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One of those didn't even have 12th gen cpus listed yet. Think it was microcenter.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 12:17 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 12:19 PM

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F me. With tax still comes out to $500 through amazon.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Mhm

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 3:40 PM

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So apparently AMD's zen 4 cpus won't be released till late 2022

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it's going to be really sad if the 5000 series has to compete with 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th gen intel processors

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that's what it's looking like

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Thought it was supposed to be mid 2022?

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 3:51 PM

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idrk

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techradar was saying late 2022

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 3:52 PM

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vast meadow Thought it was supposed to be mid 2022?

Nah, cause mid will be 5000 series refresh.

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Mid is also the release of the zen3/rdna2 laptop cpu's

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Since rdna2 apus were leaked I think ima be waiting for them to buy a laptop

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 3:54 PM

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finite elm Nah, cause mid will be 5000 series refresh.

Really? Thought that was coming this year/q1 next year?

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Ugh

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 3:54 PM

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vast meadow Really? Thought that was coming this year/q1 next year?

Late Q1 is basically mid 2022 🤷‍♂️

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Ughh

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 3:56 PM

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finite elm Late Q1 is basically mid 2022 🤷‍♂️

Ugh, 1st quarter for zen3d and sept-oct for zen4

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 4:56 PM

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So in terms of streaming and gaming? Wouldn't it just be better to get a 12 core last gen cpu since all of those cores have multithreading rather than intel 12th gen where only the 8 performance cores have multithreading?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 4:57 PM

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warm bolt So in terms of streaming and gaming? Wouldn't it just be better to get a 12 core...

Nah, just get an nvidia graphics card and use nvenc

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 4:57 PM

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We don't really know how intel 12th gen performs yet

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so it's too early to say

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 4:58 PM

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But wouldn't more cores with multithreading regardless of speed mean that for things like streaming and such it would handle multitasking better?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 4:58 PM

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warm bolt So in terms of streaming and gaming? Wouldn't it just be better to get a 12 core...

Also even tho 12900k has 8 perf cores and 8 efficiency cores that would most likely still be better than 12 regular core

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 4:59 PM

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warm bolt But wouldn't more cores with multithreading regardless of speed mean that for th...

You don't need a good cpu to stream, just use nvenc, it has a negligible effect on fps

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Hmm. Aight guess I'll wait. Was maybe thinking about preordering intel 12th gen then saw a vid saying it might not be able to run old games and got me checking some other things and wondering.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Also real cores are basically always stronger than hyperthreading

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But it doesn't matter for steaming anyway, I'd rather have a 10400 and a rtx 2060 instead of a 3900x and 5700xt

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Well streaming, programming, and cybersecurity tools. Hash cracking and stuff. A little into programming and working towards cybersecurity a bit down the line so trying to really future proof and build a pretty beastly machine.

fossil imp Nov 1, 2021, 5:07 PM

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warm bolt Well streaming, programming, and cybersecurity tools. Hash cracking and stuff. A...

Nothing's really future proof considering how often new tech are being released (typically every year).

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 5:12 PM

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warm bolt Well streaming, programming, and cybersecurity tools. Hash cracking and stuff. A...

My apology still applies, don't need any more than a 10400 for that kinda stuff

warm bolt Nov 1, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Aight thanks. Just trying to decide if preorder than or wait for benchmarks. Don't want to wait and the price goes through the roof but idk.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 5:19 PM

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warm bolt Aight thanks. Just trying to decide if preorder than or wait for benchmarks. Don...

Price wont go through the roof, wait for reviews and just remember ddr5 gonna be expensive

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 5:20 PM

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I've seen reports that DDR5 isn't actually that much more expensive, maybe 15-20% over DDR4. Prices should settle down after about 6 months.

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Ddr4 used prices will go down tho, right?

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Or not till ddr4 cpus aren't sold new anymore

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 5:25 PM

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It took a long time for DDR3 to go down

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Who knows

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Mm

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 5:28 PM

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grizzled bloom I've seen reports that DDR5 isn't actually that much more expensive, maybe 15-20...

Depends on the kit but still more money yeah

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 5:29 PM

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The minimum time I'm waiting is for DDR5-8000 c40 kits to get binned

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:30 PM

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I'm waiting till there's a need for me to upgrade

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Well more so a want, but I probably won't be able to have a tower in a few years

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1 more year of high school then 2 years of college not in a dorm at most

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Then I'm on campus, idk if I'll have room for a tower

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Prolly end up with either a sff or laptop

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:31 PM

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do an ITX build

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and then strap a monitor on the side

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Yeah but idk if I'll have the room for a full setup

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Bruh

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I have some time to figure that one out

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My brother is going to the college next year that I'll be going to, so I'll just check out his dorm

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Get a pc with a vesa mount you can stick on the back of your monitor

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Some of them you can put a gpu in

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Idk I'd prolly just get a laptop bc with how i play games I'd wake up my roommates anyways lmao

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I'd just go somewhere outside of my dorm if I had a laptop

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:44 PM

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still though

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anyone succeeded in making a mobile itx build?

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Yes

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Backpack builds

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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that would be cool

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Just throw the pc in a backpack

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Pretty sure it's been done

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I could be wrong tho

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Yeah it has been

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:55 PM

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subtle crow anyone succeeded in making a mobile itx build?

Yes

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Well actually. Mine was a mobile mATX build.

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:55 PM

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nice

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:56 PM

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3700x, 2070 super. Fit in my backpack. Used a portable 4k 60fps monitor.

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:56 PM

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oh that's cool

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I need one of those

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Took it on planes and on my deployment.

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:57 PM

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anywhere there's a outlet

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you've got a high end gaming setup

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Yea, especially since I only needed one outlet since the PC powered the monitor

subtle crow Nov 1, 2021, 5:58 PM

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oh nice, I would have just thought to strap a power strip to the back

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 5:59 PM

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If i do it again, i wanna do a true SFF. Cause it was fairly heavy.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:04 PM

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subtle crow anyone succeeded in making a mobile itx build?

Nr200 and ssupd meshilicous weggChefKiss

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Haven't actually built them but have put together many beautiful itx lists

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Question is, how will they handle travel xD.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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I'd say fine

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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The one i had before was an aluminum/steel case which increased the weight a bit, but allowed me to be rougher with it.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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The mesh would be rock solid, the nr200 might want to take out gpu but idk

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Sweet.

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:07 PM

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finite elm Sweet.

Because the gpu is mounted behind the mobo on the mesh

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Optimum tech has nice vids on it

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And i probs misspled meshilicious but ye

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Also will fit a radiator.

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Mobile 6800xt build? Let's goooo

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Imagine using the one AIO mounting space for cooling your GPU instead of your CPU

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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finite elm Also will fit a radiator.

Arctic 280mm

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Fits

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Ye

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Stop tempting me

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:09 PM

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So does the 240s but no point going lower than 280 when you can in sff

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Hehe soz

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Cause I'd end up just building a whole new PC instead of swapping cases

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Maybe I'll see if there's a 6600xt bundle with an itx Mobo.

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Just for a fun build 😅

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Lol

finite elm Nov 1, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Good news. There isn't.

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My wallet is safe for another day

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 6:19 PM

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xD

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 8:33 PM

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hows the 5500u?

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Decent

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 8:36 PM

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what igpu does it have?

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got an eye on that 5500u laptop on neweggs sales for tmrw

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if its around 400 i think ima go for it

vast meadow Nov 1, 2021, 8:51 PM

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burnt spear what igpu does it have?

Vega something

burnt spear Nov 1, 2021, 8:56 PM

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:p

finite sedge Nov 1, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Has anyone heard anything on when the G.Skill DDR5 6600MHz potential launch date will be?

grizzled bloom Nov 1, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Nope, only jedec speed kits so far, maybe some tightened timings.

atomic kestrel Nov 2, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Hello,

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can someone help me to choose a CPU for my motherboard?

subtle crow Nov 2, 2021, 3:23 PM

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what is your motherboard?

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and what are you using it for?

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budget is an important factor too

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:14 PM

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atomic kestrel can someone help me to choose a CPU for my motherboard?

You already have a motherboard? Usually you'd want to select the cpu and motherboard at the same time btw and if you already have , what motherboard?

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:25 PM

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for memory modules is having 1 with the total you want or multiple that add up to the total better or does even matter?

vernal cosmos Nov 2, 2021, 4:26 PM

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arctic fable for memory modules is having 1 with the total you want or multiple that add up t...

Could you rephrase?

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Im not getting what ur asking

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:27 PM

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arctic fable for memory modules is having 1 with the total you want or multiple that add up t...

2x8gb better than 1x16gb etc etc if thats what you're asking

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:27 PM

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yes

vernal cosmos Nov 2, 2021, 4:27 PM

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If ur asking 1 single 16gb stick or 2x8gb the 2x8gb better yeah

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But 4x4gb not always better than 2x8gb

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Harder on the imc to run and not a lot more perf

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:28 PM

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like they have 2x16gb for the same price as 1x32gb

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:30 PM

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arctic fable like they have 2x16gb for the same price as 1x32gb

2x16gb anyday of the week

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Depending on the cpu, like 20% or so better with 2x16gb

random schooner Nov 2, 2021, 4:31 PM

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but not rly worth it to buy 1080 Ti tho

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:32 PM

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random schooner but not rly worth it to buy 1080 Ti tho

What??

vernal cosmos Nov 2, 2021, 4:32 PM

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random schooner but not rly worth it to buy 1080 Ti tho

???

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U high?

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:33 PM

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1 not the same channel, 2 noone is buying the 1080 ti for it's scalped price, you can buy it used for about 400$

random schooner Nov 2, 2021, 4:33 PM

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vast meadow 1 not the same channel, 2 noone is buying the 1080 ti for it's scalped price, y...

miss click channel

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:40 PM

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is G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ok to use with the i7-10700f?

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:41 PM

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arctic fable is G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ok to use with the ...

Yes but i wouldnt get that kit, do you plan on overclocking your ram?

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:41 PM

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no

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:42 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7 I'd get this then

Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

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Tbf this kit is decent price tho

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

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But I'd still get the 3200cl16 kit

vernal cosmos Nov 2, 2021, 4:43 PM

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arctic fable is G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ok to use with the ...

Which mobo tho?

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:44 PM

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B560 or z490 or z590 hopefully

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:47 PM

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the compatibility function always puts the ripjaws at the top of the list

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I'd prob still get 3600c16 kit over 3200c16 kit for 10700 assuming decent board because it still gets some gains

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:47 PM

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hollow thorn I'd prob still get 3600c16 kit over 3200c16 kit for 10700 assuming decent board ...

Yeah but 40$ extra? Not worth it imo

hollow thorn Nov 2, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Eh

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 4:49 PM

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I mean yeah 3600cl16 will be a bit better but i can't justify 40$ more personally

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 4:54 PM

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what about the Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory, its only $10 more than the 3200?

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Usually equal or worse than 3200cl16 due to looser timings

mild jackal Nov 2, 2021, 5:16 PM

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vast meadow I mean yeah 3600cl16 will be a bit better but i can't justify 40$ more personall...

On a $1000 build?

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 5:19 PM

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mild jackal On a $1000 build?

Well idk what the budget of the build is but would be better off spending more money for gpu/saving it imo

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Ik 3600cl16 is better but really not worth it imo

arctic fable Nov 2, 2021, 5:33 PM

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appaently my micro center doesnt carry the silicon brand

vast meadow Nov 2, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Ohh well yeah, i wouldn't go to micro center for ram anyway

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They're only really good with prices on mobos and cpus

finite sedge Nov 2, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Has anyone see any news on the DDR5 launch dates/times ?

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CPUs/MBs are coming in two days surprised there's nothing on the memory as of yet 0.0

naive pendant Nov 2, 2021, 10:25 PM

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FINALLY IT ARRIVED

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This 9 year old thing came in its original box, with its original accessories including the game blaster card, and all the packing foam. I bet the guy who had this before me was a total neat freak

grizzled bloom Nov 2, 2021, 10:26 PM

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finite sedge Has anyone see any news on the DDR5 launch dates/times ?

You'll see jedec speed chips mostly on day 1, xmp timing kits will be hard to find but a few should be around.

naive pendant Nov 2, 2021, 10:26 PM

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sheeesh

finite sedge Nov 2, 2021, 10:42 PM

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grizzled bloom You'll see jedec speed chips mostly on day 1, xmp timing kits will be hard to fi...

gotcha guess I'll be spamming refresh in NE.ca thursday 😵

subtle crow Nov 2, 2021, 10:56 PM

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naive pendant FINALLY IT ARRIVED

looks brand new

naive pendant Nov 2, 2021, 10:57 PM

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ikr? its pretty cool

warm bolt Nov 3, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Should I get an amd cpu or intel 12th gen? Would prolly be pairing with a 3080 when I can find one not at a ridiculous price.
Prolly 5900x vs 12700
I know there's not intel bench marks but what ya'll think?

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 12:33 AM

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warm bolt Should I get an amd cpu or intel 12th gen? Would prolly be pairing with a 3080 w...

i mean depends what youre doing

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if youre purely gaming, at 1440p a 5800x/10700k/5600x/11600k would be enough even, let alone a 5900x and 12th gen. We also don't know for sure of 12th gens performance

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we also dont know yet of 12th gen boards/ddr5 prices

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atleast i don't

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12700 will probably be about the same as a 5900x, but boards and ddr5 prices could make it not worth it anymore

warm bolt Nov 3, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Want to be able to game and run programs in the background. Like code. Also game and stream. Hash cracking and semi intensive programs eventually.

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 12:38 AM

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running programs in the background while gaming is a given

warm bolt Nov 3, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Saw some DDR5 priced around 105 end of last week.

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 12:38 AM

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warm bolt Saw some DDR5 priced around 105 end of last week.

for how many gb and what speeds/timings

warm bolt Nov 3, 2021, 12:39 AM

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Not sure it was on amazon or microcenter.

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One of them.

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Just looked up ddr5

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https://www.newegg.com/crucial-16gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820156286?Description=ddr5&cm_re=ddr5-_-20-156-286-_-Product

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Newegg my b. And it was on preorder now it's OOS.

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Prolly just going to get like DDR4 for now tbh. DDR5 double-triple the price.

finite elm Nov 3, 2021, 12:49 AM

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naive pendant FINALLY IT ARRIVED

What is it

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 12:50 AM

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its an asrock x79 extreme9

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came with all its original stuff too including its box and soundcard which is awesome

warm bolt Nov 3, 2021, 12:54 AM

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How do newegg preorders work? You preorder and it ships to you right after it releases? Never bought off newegg.

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Eh whatever I just committed and got the 12700kf. Just won't open until benchmarks come out.

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Anyone know a good amd cpu for game server hosting?

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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modest vapor Anyone know a good amd cpu for game server hosting?

whats the budget

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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$800

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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for the whole pc or just the cpu

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:11 AM

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for the whole pc

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:12 AM

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ah

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:12 AM

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i dont need a gpu or psu listed since i have extras

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:12 AM

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oh

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id say 5800x maybe? 5900x? not too sure on prices of servers

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:12 AM

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the 5800x is like $300

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or more

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i just need around 6 cores

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:12 AM

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400$

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5600x would be fine then if you dont want to watercool

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12600k or 10700k would be fine too

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:13 AM

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i did find a amd threadripper 1900x for $145

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it was like $795 for the whole pc

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:14 AM

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1900x isnt a good cpu

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p sure 3600 beats it in even mc

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:15 AM

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the ryzen 5 3600 might be better since i did wanna go with a smaller pc

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i wanted to do a build in the nzxt 210i

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 1:16 AM

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3600 actually loses to it by a bit in mc, but still, 3700x would be a better choice even

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or 5600x

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3700x slightly better mc, 5600x better sc

modest vapor Nov 3, 2021, 1:16 AM

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i have a ryzen 7 3700x atm with my main

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paired with a 5600xt

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:15 AM

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burnt spear p sure 3600 beats it in even mc

Mc java is single core

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3600 will destroy 1900x

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 4:16 AM

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No like

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Multi core

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Nah

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1900x wins multi core

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Yeah I checked

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I said that

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 4:17 AM

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burnt spear 3600 actually loses to it by a bit in mc, but still, 3700x would be a better cho...

.

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:17 AM

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But mc doesnt use multiple cores

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Just the one

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Multicore

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Not minecraft

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Bruh MC is NOT multi core

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MC is minecraft

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 4:18 AM

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:p

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 4:23 AM

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vernal cosmos 1900x wins multi core

you know what beats the 1900X multicore? e5 2697v3 B)

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lga2011v3 gang

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:25 AM

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naive pendant you know what beats the 1900X multicore? e5 2697v3 B)

You know what beats the e5 2697v3 in single core? 1900x.

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 4:33 AM

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~~thats not multi core though :(~~

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:33 AM

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~~Multi core isnt everything tho~~

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 6:02 AM

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~~your mom~~

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:18 AM

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I'm looking for a ATX motherboard for my Ryzen 7 3700x. I need to to have 2 gen 4 NVMEs, 4 ram slots, able to use a max of 128GB ram, wifi, and tpm2.0

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:26 AM

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rapid brook I'm looking for a ATX motherboard for my Ryzen 7 3700x. I need to to have 2 gen ...

Do u have the 3700x already

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Also why do u need 2 gen 4 nvme slots

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I do

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And because I have two gen 4 drive rn

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Ok so?

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:27 AM

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I have a Asus x570 tuff wifi board, but no longer boots past POST, I've tested all the parts and the board is bad

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:27 AM

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They will work almost just as fast in a gen 3 socket

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:28 AM

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No they wont?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:28 AM

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You cant tell the difference its that low

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:28 AM

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rapid brook No they wont?

Yes they will.

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Tbh, I'm half tempted to get a crosshair

cursive epoch Nov 3, 2021, 10:30 AM

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pcie 4.0 drives are backwards compatible

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Ur asus board didn't have 2 gen 4 slots

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For m.2 drives

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:31 AM

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I used the gen 4 as my OS

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Thats only smart because thats routed directly to the cpu

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Other slot goes through the chipset

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No other reason

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You will find no difference

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:32 AM

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Well then what board would y'all recommend with 1 gen 4

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:32 AM

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B550 aorus elite ax

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And save up for cpu upgrade

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Or gpu upgrade

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:33 AM

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I have a 2070S

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Won't need to upgrade for a while

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Not with prices how they are

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Probably gonna wait for the Intel GPUs to drop

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Dont have to buy immediately... thats why I said save up

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Yeah, about to be getting $20k, already budgeting $5k for upgrades on my desktop

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If I get a Ryzen 9 5000 series would it be recommended to get a 570 motherboard or could I stay with the b550?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:35 AM

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I would go 12th gen intel for 5k

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OFC tho wait for benchmarks

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:35 AM

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I have a 360mm Ryzen aio

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Thats not a thing

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There is no ryzen aio

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:35 AM

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It's a aio with a Ryzen only bracket

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I mean u say u have a budget of 5k

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Yeah but most of that is for GPU

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:36 AM

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And a bracket costs like 20$

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Probably gonna go 3080ti

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Maybe 3090

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:36 AM

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You can get a scalped 3090 for 3k easily

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That still leaves 2k for everything else

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I WAS thinking of going a FULL custom loop

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Cpu/GPU

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Might go thu Corsair and do a nvme addition

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I mean you can do all that in 5 k

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While switching to a most probably far superior cpu

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Like I said, rn main worry is motherboard so I can actually boot

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My board just repeatedly goes thru post

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:38 AM

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B550 aorus elite ax

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Ram is good(brand new), CPU is good, storage is good, GPU is good

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:39 AM

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Have you tried clearing cmos btw

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Or updating bios

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:39 AM

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Yep

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Replaced cmos battery as well

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And set bios to factory, and then updated

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:40 AM

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So you can get to the bios?

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:40 AM

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Had bios to factory settings for CPU/ram speeds as well when it actually decided to post into bios

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:40 AM

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Like get into the bios?

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:40 AM

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But then went back and just did POST over and over

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I can get it to boot once in a blue moon

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Can you RMA it

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Or claim warranty with asus

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Maybe, but it'd be quicker just to buy a brand new one

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I'm still waiting on my rma for my old ram

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6 months now

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Also, that board is $180, aren't there good x570s for around the same price?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:42 AM

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X570 has worse vrms than b550

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Its an older chipset

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Ahh

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:43 AM

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If you insist on upgrading on the AM4 platform get the board I recommended

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Got it

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Like I said, I'm gonna wait on any BIG upgrades until benchmarks are released for the next gen AMD/Intel CPUs and Intel GPU

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Also how good is the ASRock b550 phantom 4/ac? Asking since if I do upgrade my Ryzen CPU to 5000 series I'm giving my brother my 7 3700x and he'll need a Ryzen board

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Wait....my bad he can't use that board

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He needs a micro

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:49 AM

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rapid brook He needs a micro

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI)

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:49 AM

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👍

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HjQfrH/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-wi-fi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-wi-fi

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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That one

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Why not the gigabyte ds3h?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Because thats a cheap board where you get exactly what you pay for

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Pay cheap get cheap

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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And what's the difference between the b550-m plus and the b550-m zaku?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Zaku?

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Links

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bp3gXL/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-zaku-wi-fi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550m-zaku-wi-fi

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Asus tuf zaku

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I see

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Same board different pattern

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:52 AM

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$34 more for a different paint job?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Yes

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Ripoff

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Yes

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:53 AM

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But I currently have the ATX x570 version of that board

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The b550-m plus

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:53 AM

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So?

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Just saying

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Also you have the atx x570 one

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Yeah

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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The one I sent was matx b550

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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He needs micro

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Since ur brother needs that

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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He had a micro case

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Matx is micro atx

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Ik

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What would you recommend if we didn't need built in wifi?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:54 AM

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So i linked a matx board

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Just looking at options

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:55 AM

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The non wifi variants of those boards

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:55 AM

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👍

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Non wifi is $20 cheaper ....

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Probably more cost effective to get built in

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:56 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yKVG3C/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-plus
also good

MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Dang the gigabyte b550 vision d-p looks ugly

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:57 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Kb6qqs/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-elite-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-aorus-elite
this one too

Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:57 AM

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He has a h310 gigabyte ds2h lga-1151 with a i3-8 rn

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Ok

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Gonna be a big upgrade

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:58 AM

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yee

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 10:58 AM

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When he gets ur old stuff

rapid brook Nov 3, 2021, 10:58 AM

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he used to have a pentium

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i then bought the i3 for $100

shut rune Nov 3, 2021, 12:25 PM

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Hello, I hope this is the right place. I am a noob to 'upgrading' computers. I recently bought: https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali567/p/N82E16883360197?Item=N82E16883360197 , and now want to know if I can drop an additional 16GB of RAM in. Basically, (x4) 8GB - I can of course see that there's 4 slots on my motherboard, so I assume that if I buy the same type of RAM, this: https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728 , that I'd be able to have 32GB of RAM? Is it really just plug and play? I assume it's quite easy to drop new RAM in, I just don't understand compatibilities and the such. Thanks for any help. 🙂

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 12:28 PM

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shut rune Hello, I hope this is the right place. I am a noob to 'upgrading' computers. I r...

https://www.newegg.ca/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164174
Just get that

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With upgrading a kit like the trident z kit that abs has used, you can get different chips on the stick itself even tho the timings are the same and this can cause issues

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With a kit like ballistix you dont have that risk

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Since they use the same chips each time

shut rune Nov 3, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Oh, so even though they appear to be an identical product, that they may be different batch by batch? That's good to know. So, naïve question - but can I keep the current 2x (8GB), and add this 2x (16GB) to the other 2 open RAM slots, for a total of 48GB RAM? Or should I tear the current RAM out, and drop this in? Sorry for all the questions.

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 12:34 PM

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I would get the stuff that is already in there out

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Since the chips on the ram stick itself will almost definitely be different

shut rune Nov 3, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Okay, that makes sense - I was not aware that there would be such incompatibilities. I'm glad I checked w/ someone, lol. I appreciate your time! Thanks!

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 12:36 PM

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No problem

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:17 PM

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shut rune Okay, that makes sense - I was not aware that there would be such incompatibilit...

Keep in mind, mixing ram is all a tossup in terms of it'll work or not, it'll work sometimes, so some people swear that ram always work together, but it'll also not work sometimes, so some people will swear that mixing ram never works, but it could work sometimes, and that's why you might get different opinions from different people on this topic.

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Best stance is to just say it's bad practice to mix ram

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:19 PM

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As long as you don't mind stress testing the ram with test mem 5 extreme anta and get 0 errors it should be fine

shut rune Nov 3, 2021, 1:19 PM

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hollow thorn Best stance is to just say it's bad practice to mix ram

Thanks for the additional info, I hope to eventually understand all this stuff a bit better.

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:23 PM

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:)

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:37 PM

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vast meadow As long as you don't mind stress testing the ram with test mem 5 extreme anta an...

Well

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Not exactly true

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:38 PM

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vernal cosmos Well

Should lol

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Most likely, it'll either not boot or works fine in general

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And also, mixed ram runs at the slowest stick's speed

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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hollow thorn Most likely, it'll either not boot or works fine in general

Until it just decides not to in some cases

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Especially if dies same

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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And that's why anta777 is neat

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Stress test will catch most of the issues

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Dies same is a-ok

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:39 PM

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vernal cosmos Dies same is a-ok

Not exactly

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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hollow thorn Stress test will catch most of the issues

Most being the key word

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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vast meadow Not exactly

Different bin same dies is fine

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Itll just run slow

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Dats why you use multiple stress tests to be completely sure :)

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Or just anta x arshia

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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vernal cosmos Different bin same dies is fine

Not guaranteed to run xmp if mixing 2 2x8gb kits for example

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Occt + tm5 good

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:40 PM

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vast meadow Not guaranteed to run xmp if mixing 2 2x8gb kits for example

It is

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Better bin downclocks to worse xmp

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:41 PM

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vernal cosmos Or just anta x arshia

Anta arshia config is just looped anta777, best practice to use something else too

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:p

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Sure it's good for catching issues from long term usage

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:41 PM

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vernal cosmos It is

Nope not guaranteed just highly likely

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:42 PM

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vast meadow Nope not guaranteed just highly likely

The chance of the same die not running together is as low or high as getting a bad stick of ram tbh

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:43 PM

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Not guaranteed to work together tho

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 1:43 PM

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No stick of ram is guaranteed to run even on its own tho

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Always some that fail

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 1:44 PM

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True, but 2 kits can be same exact kits and not work together but work fine separate

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 1:45 PM

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It's all just a tossup in terms of being able to run or not

atomic kestrel Nov 3, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Hello,

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Can someone help me? A qustion about CPUs/RAMs.

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 3:06 PM

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atomic kestrel Can someone help me? A qustion about CPUs/RAMs.

What's your question?

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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atomic kestrel Can someone help me? A qustion about CPUs/RAMs.

https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 4:05 PM

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vernal cosmos https://dontasktoask.com/

we should pin this

mild jackal Nov 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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People who need to read that aren't the type to read pins

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We could get a mee6 macro to reply with that link after !ask

vernal cosmos Nov 3, 2021, 4:38 PM

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mild jackal We could get a mee6 macro to reply with that link after !ask

Please do :)

split barn Nov 3, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Question should I go for a ryzen 5600x or intel 12 gen

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Don’t have a pc yet and I’m not in any time restraints

hollow thorn Nov 3, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Then wait for 12th gen benchmarks at least

split barn Nov 3, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Alright

subtle crow Nov 3, 2021, 5:24 PM

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no reliable benchmarks have really come out yet

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but the 12600K should be quite a bit better performance wise than the 5600X

burnt spear Nov 3, 2021, 5:25 PM

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12600k will prolly be best price/performance by my guess

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But we'll have to wait and see

vast meadow Nov 3, 2021, 5:41 PM

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subtle crow no reliable benchmarks have really come out yet

Well i mean the release is tomorrow so what less than 24hr wait time

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 7:09 PM

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mild jackal People who need to read that aren't the type to read pins

true 😔

midnight pollen Nov 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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!ask

devout mothBOT Nov 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

midnight pollen Nov 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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epic

naive pendant Nov 3, 2021, 7:17 PM

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epic

shy wyvern Nov 3, 2021, 9:34 PM

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So I just found out that AMD pays for avx 512 licensing on server CPUs. If they were to do that for like a pro line of AM4 or AM5 CPUs I'd finally be able to jump ship to AMD. Maybe introduce it for the ____X series of chips?

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I don't mind paying a premium for avx 256/512

severe pivot Nov 3, 2021, 11:37 PM

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New egg tech support told me to come here with my issue.

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PC no post. Mobo says CPU is dead

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Rmaed CPU. New one says same issue on mobo

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Should I get a new CPU cooler next? Or mobo?

naive pendant Nov 4, 2021, 12:01 AM

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What board is it, and what cpu?

errant grail Nov 4, 2021, 12:19 AM

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how do u guy fix blue screen?

severe pivot Nov 4, 2021, 12:38 AM

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MOBO CPUI issues

grizzled bloom Nov 4, 2021, 12:50 AM

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errant grail how do u guy fix blue screen?

It depends on the error and its cause. What error is it giving?

peak perch Nov 4, 2021, 2:40 AM

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I need to do some troubleshooting tomorrow. But wanted to ask a question about the cpu/vram red light error. My MB is a Gigabyte Aorus X470 Gaming 5.. and when I boot my system the cpu light is on, then quickly flashes to vram then back to the cpu. Does that every 10 sec or so. Does that sequence of lights mean anything specific?

limber dragon Nov 4, 2021, 2:44 AM

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generally means bad ram or cpu, depending on what it hits last in the cycle, but if you have a debug post code, you can see what it hits before cycling back to the beginning

errant grail Nov 4, 2021, 2:48 AM

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basically i put a new ram

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worked for three days

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and got blue screen after opening games

peak perch Nov 4, 2021, 2:55 AM

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limber dragon generally means bad ram or cpu, depending on what it hits last in the cycle, but...

I do not have one. But the last light is the cpu. I fear it is the pc cause I oc it about a year ago and it was my first time oc. And recently I've been mining eth using the Norton software. So I've been leaving it on daily. I could be wrong but I have a feeling

limber dragon Nov 4, 2021, 3:26 AM

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clear cmos and see if it still boots tbh

warm bolt Nov 4, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Did anyone announce that they are dropping 12th gen reviews right at midnight?

limber dragon Nov 4, 2021, 4:16 AM

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no, because NDA is usually until 6am PDT

grizzled bloom Nov 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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Oh dang that really is tomorrow isn't it

vernal cosmos Nov 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-was-rather-misleading-in-its-comparisons-between-the-Core-i9-12900K-and-Ryzen-9-5950X.576726.0.html

Notebookcheck

Intel was rather misleading in its comparisons between the Core i9-...

It seems that Intel was not telling the full story when it compared the Core i9-12900K against the Ryzen 9 5950X, currently AMD's most comparable processor. As it turns out, Intel allowed the Core i9-12900K to consume 2.4x the power of its AMD competitor and benchmarked the Ryzen 9 5950X using an older version of Windows 11 with AMD performance ...

grizzled bloom Nov 4, 2021, 4:31 AM

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I pointed that out several times, they overclocked their 12900k performance cores but left the 5950X stock so they could beat it by a few points in multi core. Single core benefits from the overclock too.

vernal cosmos Nov 4, 2021, 4:31 AM

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vernal cosmos https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-was-rather-misleading-in-its-comparisons-bet...

About what we expected

grizzled bloom Nov 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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errant grail basically i put a new ram

What error comes up on the blue screen? If you don't know there should be files in c:/Windows/minidump, DM me the newest one and I'll do a full analysis.

warm bolt Nov 4, 2021, 6:21 AM

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No cpu expert but my thoughts are that intel 12th gen will be a decent cpu more compatible with windows 11 and work with ddr5 so will have a slight edge in price and future proofing. Until next gen ryzen cpus come out.. but if you’re like me and want one now or soonish it’s a good upgrade. At least that’s what I’ve been gathering from videos. Will be waiting on benchmarks tho.

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Just my thoughts as a mostly average consumer.

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Not opening and using it right away or for two months at least anyway so depends on the benchmarks.

naive pendant Nov 4, 2021, 6:34 AM

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question. i got a new m.2 that i just put in my computer. i still have the old one in. i plan on putting everything from the old to the new one, then taking the new one out to give to my wife for her computer. where do i start?

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do i install a brand new os on the new one before i transfer my things, transfer then os, does it matter?

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i think i messed up cuz i don't even see the new hd there >_<

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severe pivot Nov 4, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Guys I posted a thorough explanation of my current problems in #905607722744045589 if anyone was interested in helping me with my no post issue.

earnest rover Nov 4, 2021, 1:38 PM

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So I've built an amd cpu based pc

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Now I want to build a intel based pc

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What mother boards are recommended

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It's a budget build

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With 12th gen cpu

vast meadow Nov 4, 2021, 1:57 PM

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https://youtu.be/fhI9tLOg-6I 12th gen go stonks1

YouTube

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Our review of the 12900K CPU versus the 5800X, 5900X, 5950X, 10900K, and more evaluates the gaming performance...

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vast meadow Nov 4, 2021, 1:58 PM

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earnest rover It's a budget build

What's your definition of budget?

earnest rover Nov 4, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Nothing hilariously expensive

severe pivot Nov 4, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Oh my thread got deleted...

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Should the i5-12600K even be considered a competitor with the 5600X

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Based on performance, core and thread count it really seems like it's really more comparable to the 5800X

pure chasm Nov 4, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Probably not

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 3:29 PM

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kinda in a different league now

pure chasm Nov 4, 2021, 3:32 PM

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I’m looking for a new intel cpu to upgrade to from i5 6500 any recommendations

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Holy crap

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The 12600k destroys the 5600x

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WTF I thought it was going to be on par

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I was going to buy it since I thought it was going to about equivalent, I was not expecting it to destroy the 5600x that bad.

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And the 12900k beats the 5950x in windows 10?!

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WTF that OS is not even optimized for it

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VulpixConfused

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I guess all Intel needed was a node shrink after all these years... This is absurd

split copper Nov 4, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Inb4 6600x

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Hell, 12600k beats 5900x in single core. Holy crap

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Yeah

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I'm getting a 12600k

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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300$ cpu that will be enough for a 3090 ti

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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This 6 threaded cpu is killing me for compiling

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Insane

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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12600kf for $270 time

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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That's absolutely insane

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Intel literally just needed a node shrink

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They been stuck with the same node for 7 generations

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5th-11th gen

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11600k-11900k buyers must be furious rn

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I'd have such heavy buyers remorse if I recently got a 11600k-11900k

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When a $270 CPU can match a 5800x, you know Intel is back

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After so long Intel is actually competent again

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$510 for a 12600k and ddr4 board combo...

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Should I got for it? Very tempting rn

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I would

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I am going to once I get the money for it

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man, i5 gets lower fps with DDR5

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weird

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Probably a bad memory controller on the one they got. Also I don't trust tomshardware

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They a joke

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:07 PM

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subtle crow man, i5 gets lower fps with DDR5

Not weird, latency on ddr5 can make it worse

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 4:09 PM

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but 12600K gets much better 3dmark score with DDR5

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13529 DDR5

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11180 DDR4

main pulsar Nov 4, 2021, 4:18 PM

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burnt spear They a joke

?

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i disagree

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Toms hardware has gotten quite a bit wrong before

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:19 PM

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subtle crow but 12600K gets much better 3dmark score with DDR5

Faster speed will always be better for that, but for gaming latency can matter more.

main pulsar Nov 4, 2021, 4:19 PM

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like

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Also why are CPUs on Newegg $30 more than everywhere else?

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Probably third party sellers

main pulsar Nov 4, 2021, 4:20 PM

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subtle crow man, i5 gets lower fps with DDR5

3 fps is most certainly margin of error

grizzled bloom Nov 4, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I'm glad to see Intel is serious about competing now. They did a lot better than I expected even from the leaks. Too bad they draw so much power.

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Tbh power draw doesn't bother me. If my 8600k can be cooled pulling almost 170 watts at 1.405v 5.2ghz with my dark rock 4

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I think it should be able to handle a 5ghz 12600k

burnt spear Nov 4, 2021, 4:32 PM

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I mean

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Wattage isn't all that matters

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Look at the 5600x

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Hot as hell, yet pulls how much max, 140?

shy wyvern Nov 4, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Linus shows it was only pulling about 75 watts at full blender and gooseberry workloads

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Compared to 12600k 125 watts at full load

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subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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huh, alder lake seems to perform ok with some things on windows 10 according to tom's hardware

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but one benchmark shows it performing really, really badly on 10

weary condor Nov 4, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Im just trying to get my hands on ddr5 peepoSadSip

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 4:41 PM

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on windows 11 though more standard applications like adobe perform wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better on alder lake

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so much better that it's funny

main pulsar Nov 4, 2021, 4:42 PM

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subtle crow on windows 11 though more standard applications like adobe perform wayyyyyyyyyyy...

alder lake is just

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better

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plain and simple

subtle crow Nov 4, 2021, 4:42 PM

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it has its ups and downs to be certain

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but yeah

main pulsar Nov 4, 2021, 4:42 PM

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ofc still waiting for amds response