This one's on sale
#cpus-mobo-and-memory
cursive epoch
Been since a few days actually
Just be quick about it lel
It has 10300H and 1660Ti
subtle crow
1660 Ti, nice
cursive epoch
Haha, fair
subtle crow
I honestly feel like the high power gaming systems are overated
I play cod warzone and apex on an i7-6700hq and m1000m
which is totally obselete
and yet get 60-80fps
subtle crow
then you have the systems with seriously 15 times the power
I don't honestly understand what you guys do with all the power
cursive epoch
I want a 3060 laptop myself
grizzled bloom
Well I know that Foxy and I mine with it for one lol
cursive epoch
Honestly the reason from my view for high powered stuff is
Buy it and keep it for a long time
Instead of buying lower end stuff and having to upgrade so often
grizzled bloom
That's the general idea, yeah. I'll probably upgrade my CPU in about 4-5 years. GPU, it depends. I'm probably fine there for at least 3 years.
naive pendant
yea i wont be upgrading from my 3900x for another 4 years or so
grizzled bloom
My general rule is a rule of 50
When new processors come out that are at least 50% more powerful than what I have, it's time to upgrade.
It can take many generations for that much gap to happen
naive pendant
Yea that's a good rule to follow
A rule I wanted to follow for my gpu but couldn't 
grizzled bloom
I've followed it pretty well, I started with the rule when I had a FX 8300, moved up to a Ryzen 2700 (54% better), now I'm on a 5800X (45% better).
grizzled bloom
Somewhere
naive pendant
lol alright
grizzled bloom
I think my parts cabinet, or my tool drawer...
naive pendant
tool drawer? oh boy
grizzled bloom
It's not as bad as it sounds, I keep the original boxes of fragile parts like CPUs and it's a DEEP drawer
I know the 970 mobo I had for the 8300 is toast. I had it mounted on an old prebuilt case and the screws stripped, so I had to rip the board out
Shame, that was the board that really got me liking MSI too
naive pendant
jee
I need to buy some clampshell cases for my extra cpus
last thing i want is to break more hardware lol
grizzled bloom
Intels are no worries at least. Very hard to kill one of those, unlike AMD that the pins like to bend from sheer psychic power
naive pendant
yea
grizzled bloom
Weird
short pond
is there anyoen who could help me with a problem? I have an ROG Strix X570-i motherboard with an AMD 5600g, no graphics card.
I went into the bios to enable SVM and to increase the memory frequency to 3600mhz. Used youtube videos to do both and followed them exactly.
I save and restart from the bios and now it wont boot up, just have a black screen and wont even force power down
vast meadow
is there anyoen who could help me with a problem? I have an ROG Strix X570-i mo...
Is your ram actually rated for 3600mhz? And if so did you enable xmp or did you set to 3600mhz manually?
short pond
I bought 3600 MHz ram
vast meadow
But to get it to boot clear your cmos
You can short the 2 cmos pins with a screwdriver or you can take out the battery and unplug the pc, wait 3 mins then put the battery back in
vast meadow
I bought 3600 MHz ram
But did you enable xmp or set just the frequency to 3600mhz?
vernal cosmos
Reset cmos with the method i told you
short pond
Alright
vast meadow
Okay so clear cmos and then enable docp in the bios and save and exit, don't do anything else but change profile to xmp
vast meadow
Pog
cursive epoch
wew
short pond
So a ryzen 5700g should be able to run memory at 3600 mhz right?
burnt spear
So a ryzen 5700g should be able to run memory at 3600 mhz right?
Yes. 3600 is perfect for ryzen
short pond
this is despite the amd website saying the system memory specification is up to 3200
short pond
sigh, well then i still have no idea why my memory wont run at that speed without being unable to boot
cursive epoch
Faulty kit
grizzled bloom
The new 5600g and 5700g are known to run up to 4000 without issue, synced fclk even
So I agree, bad memory kit
short pond
sigh, nope it was the bios
grizzled bloom
I was even about to say, assuming the bios is updated
short pond
apparently the version from march didnt work with it up to 3600, reflashed with the latest and no issues
short pond
well apparently microcenter doesnt check that when they build your machine
grizzled bloom
Oops. Even they can miss some things apparently.
short pond
clearly
vast meadow
<@283746095979429888> bonk please
long yew
my motherboard's got a defective m.2 port
done all the troubleshooting possible
don't buy MSI boards... this is the 2nd one I've bought (in a row, mind you) that had something significantly wrong with it
hollow thorn
I mean, is it defective or is there just pcie lane sharing
often m.2_2 shares lanes with sata ports or pcie x1/x4 slots
and on Intel, many z590/b560 boards in general disable m.2_1 with 10th gen because reasons
cunning ingot
So a ryzen 5700g should be able to run memory at 3600 mhz right?
5700g can do 4400
and more if you're lucky
long yew
I mean, is it defective or is there just pcie lane sharing
it's defective
there is lane sharing but I've read the manual, and also tested it without anything to share lanes with
pcie 3.0 x8 slot will be disabled if m.2_2 is occupied, that's about it
oh, and no sata devices
vast meadow
New trident z ddr5 looks 
gloomy rock
Is there a non rgb version
vast meadow
Possibly
vernal cosmos
New trident z ddr5 looks <:Chef_Kiss:661280445325115402>
Too little crystal thingies
Bad ram
vast meadow
Too little crystal thingies
vernal cosmos
Is there a non rgb version
Just disable rgb in the app if you dont want it
finite elm
Interesting new SOC layouts for the M1 line
They are putting the ram on the soc now which is interesting š¤
According to what they demonstrated, the pro i believe got comparable performance to the laptop 3050 ti. But that's apples on testing.
vast meadow
They were doing that before afaik, most socs have ram on chip
finite elm
11800h + RTX 3050 Ti is the roughly the performance the pro has.
finite elm
They were doing that before afaik, most socs have ram on chip
You are correct
I think apple could actually compete pretty well in handheld gaming if they wanted to.
Imagine if they made a switch competitor with an M1 chip lol. And no i don't mean the iPad.
vast meadow
Lol
finite elm
The iPad is pretty nice for gaming though.
gloomy rock
Just disable rgb in the app if you dont want it
Epic
vernal cosmos
<:sayoriWhat:624350597113577492>
Trident z royale crystal looking design
vast meadow
Trident z royale crystal looking design
I suppose a bit ye
vernal cosmos
I suppose a bit ye
if it doesnt look like this I dont want it
vernal cosmos
and if a case fans dont look like this I dont want them
karmic plaza
New trident z ddr5 looks <:Chef_Kiss:661280445325115402>
it looks like an rgb tv remote that i didnt buy on ebay and wasted 6 dollars on
zenith matrix
and if a case fans dont look like this I dont want them
Rgb addicted person
midnight pollen
I think apple could actually compete pretty well in handheld gaming if they want...
i wish
even attempting to play games on m1, it seems to have potential but it's not quite there in the tuning and software
please give me game translation š¦
finite elm
They are working on it. Apple arcade has a decent selection of games on it. But as it's mostly apple tv, iPad, and iphone they are targeting the a15 bionic instead of m1.
long yew
And which mobo chipset
ryzen 3700x, b550
wise quest
They are working on it. Apple arcade has a decent selection of games on it. But ...
We neeed wasd controls though, and thatās not easy in iPad :(
finite elm
We neeed wasd controls though, and thatās not easy in iPad :(
controller....
Also, the magic keyboard could add wasd controls if devs felt like it.
vast meadow
I'd say only very few devs will support
cyan raft
Imagine playing wasd on the digital iPad keyboard
vast meadow
Probs only takes 1-2 input at a time as well xD
vast meadow
At least for minecraft xD
In everything bar maybe driving games
finite elm
You play souls like games with kbm?
vast meadow
What game?
wise quest
Hotkeying is the main thing, also the precise control over everything
With the mouse speed I mean
For precision
finite elm
What game?
dark souls, sekiro, Jedi Fallen Order, etc
also tbh The Witcher with KBM sucks too
vast meadow
Ohh never been into those types of games but yeah i hate controller
For anything but driving
wind nest
For anything but driving
Where do I change ram speed in the bios utility area?
grizzled bloom
What are you trying to accomplish? What motherboard?
You usually can't just change the speed
wind nest
You usually can't just change the speed
My rip jaws dual channel 16x2 is running at 2133 mhz with a b550 f mobo, r7 3700x and a 1650 super
In a Perfect world Iād want it to be 3200
But Iām my gpu is bottlenecked
Ik
grizzled bloom
What's the memory rated for?
wind nest
Itās called repub of gamers
grizzled bloom
ROG is an ASUS model
wind nest
I turned that on to but it said it would change the voltage and I didnāt want to mess it up
Idk
It donāt really matter
grizzled bloom
Changing voltage is good, that's what it's supposed to do
grizzled bloom
You can't increase the speed without increasing voltage
wind nest
Should I turn it to āprofile 1ā
grizzled bloom
That's usually the fastest one, yeah
dim geyser
I need a solid mobo to go with a AMD 5600X/5800X. It will mostly be used for gaming. I do not need Wifi as I will have an ethernet port nearby. I wouldn't exclude one with Wifi though.
hollow thorn
What budget
smth like a b550 torpedo is a fairly neat middle of the line choice at 150$
Or a b550 tomahawk at 170$
any board with decent vrms and bios flashback will work
on the cheaper end, b550m pro vdh wifi is a surprisingly decent board at 110$
dim geyser
I dont mind putting some money into the board if the features and quality are there. What I am I getting for a more expensive mobo?
Also is it worth the extra $60 to get a 5800X over a 5600X
hollow thorn
In this case, better board would just give you a bit better VRMs (I believe torpedo and tomahawk have same vrms though), better connectivity in terms of rear io and internal headers, and better support on internal headers, like more rgb/argb headers and more fan headers, better memory traces, slightly better audio chip, better onboard lan chip, more pcie slots.
hollow thorn
Also is it worth the extra $60 to get a 5800X over a 5600X
If the difference is 60$, I say yes in most cases, but that might also depend on you
also keep in mind Microcenter for nice deals
dim geyser
Is it worth going with a X570 board? I assume for gaming I don't need it but it might be helpful. I would want to stay under $200 if possible. Does it make sense to get a more fully featured/ higher quality B550 instead of a cheaper X570?
dense frost
Is it worth going with a X570 board? I assume for gaming I don't need it but it ...
it all depends on what you need.
cursive epoch
B550 has most of what most needs
hollow thorn
Is it worth going with a X570 board? I assume for gaming I don't need it but it ...
x570 really doesn't off much over b550 in general, and they're not priced the best, like 170$ b550 tomahawk can be compared with boards that are more like 250$ x570 tomahawk, similar vrms and similar feature sets, no reason paying more unless you really want like a few more pcie 4.0 lanes
cunning ingot
b550 aorus pro imo
b550 tomahawk kinda cruddy rear io
and also memory oc on it isnt that great
good vrm but thats all it has going for it
one trick pony
wary flint
pc sticking on update bios screen do not turn off. this is after the asus splash screen when turning on pc. after a cpl seconds it will then go black screen and say no display. i managed to get into bios on one of the attempts and updated bios. then loaded into windows no issues and did windows updates. turned off then back on it worked fine, turned off and back on again and back to updating bios screen. anyone experience this or know what this is happening?
finite elm
B550 taichi cause it looks prettz
vast meadow
b550 tomahawk kinda cruddy rear io
How? Same io as gaming edge WiFi? And mem oc(excluding xmp) is very not important to like 99% of people
grizzled bloom
6 if you count usb c
hollow thorn
It's fine for people like me
hollow thorn
but I'll say it's below good in terms of usb port count
high steeple
But who needs more?
hollow thorn
bz
high steeple
Depends on the person
grizzled bloom
I've run out of ports before, and kids like to break front ports
vast meadow
Okay that is kinda lacking, pretty sure by b450 ds3h has 8 usb ports
hollow thorn
pretty sure buildzoid at one point said they needed like 8 dedicated usb ports for what they do lel
high steeple
I've run out of ports before, and kids like to break front ports
True.
hollow thorn
tbf there's also front io
grizzled bloom
That's why I was happy my monitor has a hub too, 2 more accessible but hidden ports
vast meadow
Yeah but usually 1-2 ports
cunning ingot
I've run out of ports before, and kids like to break front ports
more ports is never bad
and i use a ton
webcam, mouse, keyboard, and a flash drive is already 4. Toss in a mic, your phone, and maybe a drawing tablet
thats 7
maybe you have your camera hooked up
8
etc.
finite elm
My Taichi has 6. I'm fine with that
finite elm
Mouse, keyboard, controller, desk fan, headphones (USB c), mic.
hollow thorn
it's gonna be dedicated usb powered amp, usb powered dac, usb powered xlr interface, usb keyboard, and that's already 4
grizzled bloom
I really need a kvm switch
finite elm
I really need a kvm switch
Get a monitor with one included.
Join me in being a Gigabyte fan for no reason.
vast meadow
Why sevral lol
grizzled bloom
I would hook it to my secondary display for my mining pc, I already got a gigabyte monitor recently
vast meadow
Who needs multiple mice/keebs at same time lol
finite elm
I have 3 PC's at my desk but only have 2 mice and 2 keyboards lol.
grizzled bloom
Who needs multiple mice/keebs at same time lol
Multiplayer games on a single pc?
vast meadow
Multiplayer games on a single pc?
Usually they split the keyboard tho 
grizzled bloom
That's no fun
vast meadow
At least from what I've seen, they usually all web based type games
Unless there's some secret genre I've been unaware of
grizzled bloom
You're severely lacking in your split screen game knowledge it seems lol
finite elm
I don't like splitscreen. But that's probably the game tester in me.
Causes a lot of issues. in terms of audio and performance.
vast meadow
Fair, only split screen games I've played is like mario kart xD
cunning ingot
Who needs multiple mice/keebs at same time lol
i dont want to have to unplug/replug different mice and keyboard
and its fun to just use different mice
and keyboards
i have a USB C cable and a mini usb cable
for keyboard
vast meadow
i dont want to have to unplug/replug different mice and keyboard
I mean okay just seems extremely unpractical to have them taking up space on desk
cunning ingot
i have a big desk
linmon gang!
and mice are small
i only have 2 keyboards on my desk
but i am an anomaly
but many other people have lots of usb
i mean i have 3 flash drives which sometimes 2 or more are plugged in at once
this tabletop is great
so cheap!
and a pair of alex drawer
and you set
vast meadow
i mean i have 3 flash drives which sometimes 2 or more are plugged in at once
Idk how but there are some ppl like that yeah 
cunning ingot
you can never have too many usb ports, so i dont think its ever a con.
better have more than you need than not enough
11 on the giga is probably overkill
but better than 5
and the VRM differences between the two aren't that big anyways, so thats really a non issue
vast meadow
I've got mouse, keyboard, keyboard pass through, monitor passthrough and mic plugged into usb lol and the passthroughs are empty, plugged in just cuz
cunning ingot
even with a 5950x cranked to the absolute max, both boards can handle that fine
vast meadow
you can never have too many usb ports, so i dont think its ever a con. <:EZ:5742...
100% just idk how ppl use that many on the daily,
vivid lynx
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-x570s-gaming-x-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-59x-gi.html this look like a very good mobo
vast meadow
Dont know much about it but it's probably good enough, that's kinda premium board pricing soo, idk what the vrm layout etc is like on that board tho
vivid lynx
its very new on pre order atm
jagged raptor
whats the best board for +/- 20 dollars of 200 for intel i5 11600k
rn msi z590 pro wifi looks best
limber dragon
giga z590 elite should be about that price
grizzled bloom
Oooh indeed, rdna2 graphics. Called it. Steam deck has it first but they had to put it on something else soon.
bitter oak
looking for a cheap 6-8 pcie slot motherboard. B450, LGA1151 - anyone got something decent?
cursive epoch
There's none for the socket that's cheap
bitter oak
just tryna setup a 8 gpu rig. Anything you recommend?
mild jackal
Mining?
bitter oak
yes
bitter oak
Mining?
whatcha thing of this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y468HV3/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&th=1
this one seems pretty good too
grizzled bloom
just tryna setup a 8 gpu rig. Anything you recommend?
bitter oak
would rather pay 2x the price than wait till november
grizzled bloom
It usually comes faster than that estimate
naive pendant
What would be the best mobo for an i7 10700f that can support 4000+mhz of ram speed?
vernal cosmos
Anyone with an amd cpu on windows 11 update ur mobo chipset drivers ASAP. L3 cache fix is out.
Just select ur mobo chipset here and download the latest ones
Chipsets-> socket am4 and then whatever chipset mobo
vast meadow
Performance and budget
What's your definition of budget lol
vast meadow
naive pendant
Any other boards?
cunning ingot
What would be the best mobo for an i7 10700f that can support 4000+mhz of ram sp...
gigabyte z590 best ram ocing
asus and msi both cursed
except on apex
apex second best
behind tachy
hollow thorn
taichi fun
pale fox
good amd cpu? currently i got the amd 3600
vernal cosmos
good amd cpu? currently i got the amd 3600
11500
pale fox
11500
is that even a amd cpu?
I dont want to even bother
@hollow thorn help me out, your the professional
hollow thorn
wat board
pale fox
cpu
hollow thorn
What board you putting it on
pale fox
320-mk
cunning ingot
lol
hollow thorn
yea that do be a problem
pale fox
yea that do be a problem
how to fix problem doctor?
cunning ingot
my advice, spend $70 get a refurb b550
pale fox
my advice, spend $70 get a refurb b550
why not a new one?
cunning ingot
because its cheaper
hollow thorn
no offense but a320 kinda says a lot about your budget
pale fox
no offense but a320 kinda says a lot about your budget
ya ik
atm ram is kinda alright [32gb]
How hard is it, to replace a mobo?
ayo spooky website
vast meadow
Kinda 32gb 
vast meadow
How hard is it, to replace a mobo?
Bout as hard as it is to build a pc
pale fox
damm
grizzled bloom
Minus cable management for the most part, but yeah
vast meadow
Yeah no cable management but apart from that basically new pc
finite elm
ewwww
I7 860 with 6gbs of ram
Did they make 1.5gb sticks? or is there an error lol
Maybe its 2 2's and 2 1's I dunno
its gross
naive pendant
@finite elm what's ew about it?
naive pendant
its not that bad
It could still be a pretty decent gaming system
older games like gta, csgo, stuff like that
heck, I used to play Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p with a 1050ti and 3770
Got a good 40fps or so at medium settings on that system
cursive epoch
Did they make 1.5gb sticks? or is there an error lol
you can pair 2gb and 4gb stick together and get 6
or 4x2
wait no
nah that's wrong, but the first one i spoke of is correct
i literally had 6 gigs of ram in my last laptop
finite elm
It's 4 sticks of ram.
finite elm
So it'd be 2+2+1+1
cursive epoch
ya
naive pendant
An i7 860 is a lot worse than an i7 3770
duh, of course it is
although i wouldnt call cpuboss a great source
naive pendant
hey it can still do some stuff lol
its usable is my point
its not trash
so dont throw it away
finite elm
I have too many computers in the house
naive pendant
then donate it
finite elm
Well duh
naive pendant
lol
jagged raptor
best 280mm aio cooler ?
mild jackal
Can't go wrong with an arctic, ek galahad is popular as well
vernal cosmos
Can't go wrong with an arctic, ek galahad is popular as well
galahad doesnt have a 280mm model
240 and 360 only
280mm is arctic freezer
vast meadow
Did they make 1.5gb sticks? or is there an error lol
1x2gb 1x4gb
vast meadow
That works too
hidden cobalt
is there a good resource to find the BIOS version of a mobo's 1.0 revision?
vast meadow
The mobo website
hidden cobalt
Cause I am looking for a CPU for an older AMD AM3+ mobo and PCPart picker is all over the place with whether or not CPUs are compatible
Like CPUs on the lowest version from this site all vary in terms of compatibility
https://www.asus.com/support/CPU/1/24/42/12/NOXKRd8n3wWVKy2e/
for the 0402 bios which is the lowest version for that page
vast meadow
Cause I am looking for a CPU for an older AMD AM3+ mobo and PCPart picker is all...
Why do you want to buy an am3+ cpu in 2021?
hidden cobalt
Why do you want to buy an am3+ cpu in 2021?
Got a free mobo and am building a lightweight server just for play lol. Kinda a hobby putting together old PC parts and seeing how they hold up
supple sedge
pato is it ur birthday
vast meadow
Got a free mobo and am building a lightweight server just for play lol. Kinda a ...
Ahhhh, well i mean fair enough, you could always try the yolo method
vast meadow
pato is it ur birthday
Yis
paper ether
Would 2400MHz memory be fast enough for a Minecraft server?
naive pendant
Would 2400MHz memory be fast enough for a Minecraft server?
Well yea, but what you should be more concerned about is how much ram you'll need, and if your processor can handle what you need it to do.
What will your MC server be?
mild jackal
The newegg server used to run 5-10 max players with spigot + lots of plugins on an i5 3570 with 16GB 1600mhz, lol. 10900k+4400mhz b-die is the play if you want to be sweaty, though. Or just 5800x + 3800c14 tight
naive pendant
Yea I've got a dell r620 with two e5 2650s and 24gb of ram that I was gonna use for an eventually 200+ player server although I haven't worked on getting the server ready so it's just sitting there...
vast meadow
happy birthday pato!
Thanks :)@finite elm
finite elm
np
supple sedge
all g brotha
paper ether
Well yea, but what you should be more concerned about is how much ram you'll nee...
Well, I was gonna put an overkill amount of memory, but the processor I'm gonna use can only support 2400MHz
My plan is to use a i3-8350k since it has better single thread performance than the one in my PC, and my pc can run a server just fine
And by overkill, I mean 64GB
I have realized just how expensive 64GB of ram is and have decided to not do that
paper ether
Well yea, but what you should be more concerned about is how much ram you'll nee...
And it's a modded server with around 230 mods
naive pendant
Is it a separate system you're using for it? If it is, that cpu and 16gb would likely be just fine
vernal cosmos
My plan is to use a i3-8350k since it has better single thread performance than ...
What price are you getting the cpu and the mobo for the cpu btw?
Older boards are expensive
Sometimes cheaper and better to buy newer hardware because of that
paper ether
yeah, I found a CPU that's better and is literally only $0.66 more expensive
the original plan was an i3-8350k, but the i5-11400 is faster and less than a dollar more
that also means I can go higher than 2400MHz memory
vernal cosmos
Exactly
Get a b560 mobo
Supports ram oc
Meaning above what cpu says it supports
paper ether
yeah, that's the plan
wind karma
So in the past I've had some issues with my ram XMP resetting to default speed and today I just noticed that PBO got turned off as well as my pc clock was set to the wrong time. Because of those various factors, is it safe to say the issue is the motherboard?
grizzled bloom
Those are all classic symptoms of the cmos battery dying
grizzled bloom
Just get a CR2032 battery from the store and swap it with the one on the board
grizzled bloom
Nope, you probably don't even need tools unless you need them to open the case or move the gpu out of the way
It's just a little metal clip holding it in
wind karma
aight
now that you mention it I definitely recollect seeing a watch battery on the board somewhere
grizzled bloom
Yep, that's the one
wind karma
do all motherboards use CR2032? I know there's a few different sizes of that "style" of battery
I suppose I can probably look it up
grizzled bloom
It's the most common flat cell battery. It's a PC standard
It's also used in things like car remotes, garage door openers, IR remotes, kids toys...
wind karma
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naive pendant
Can I oc my ram to 3200mhz if I get a z490 mobo
vernal cosmos
Or a b560 mobo
vast meadow
Yes for both but no point getting a z490 for a non f or an 11th gen chip
rocky beacon
Amazon Warehouse?
The people who I know who have ordered from Amazon Warehouse had great experiences
Amazon Warehouse has been pretty reliable
But personally I would not trust any other used items on Amazon if they are not sold by Amazon themselves
vast meadow
That's nice
vast meadow
Nice what cpu you putting in it
naive pendant
10600k
naive pendant
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vast meadow
I mean i wouldn't personally buy 10600k rn but sure
naive pendant
I already bought it thatās why
naive pendant
But either way thank you
That was my last essential part I need in order to build my first PC
median cedar
Currently have a R5 3600, looking at the 5800x, but heard its a hot boi. Would be cooled with a 360mm AIO.
Worth the upgrade? Should I look at something else?
vast meadow
Currently have a R5 3600, looking at the 5800x, but heard its a hot boi. Would b...
Depends on what you use pc for also what motherboard and ram you have and you dont need 360mm just optimal
median cedar
Depends on what you use pc for also what motherboard and ram you have and you do...
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cap.
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB @ 3600mHz
MSI 27in 1440p 144hz
Sapphire Nitro 6700XT
Gaming and from time to time streaming
limber dragon
5800x is heat dense, not hot
240/280/360+ will all have the same temps in games
granted if you're streaming with an amd gpu, you should be using the cpu encoder, and then you might see a benefit of the larger coolers
median cedar
I just want to be as future proof as possible. Given that AM5 is coming out soon with support for DDR5 should I just wait it out?
limber dragon
the various sizes give you cooling capacity
the generic normie cpu should be fine with a 240/280 for years
~100w load
vast meadow
I just want to be as future proof as possible. Given that AM5 is coming out soon...
If the 3600 is doing it's job for you then I'd at least wait til zen3d
delicate iris
If I keep getting DRAM boot halts should I buy new RAM?
burnt spear
If I keep getting DRAM boot halts should I buy new RAM?
What happened to cause it
You could try to unplug the cmos battery if you were trying to oc or anything like that
You might also need to update bios
delicate iris
I enabled a DOCP profile, but immediately reversed it when it kept happening everytime. I have to turn off my PSU wait for lights to turn off then turn it back on then turn on the pc
It gets an orange QLED if you restart or try to turn on the computer again without cycling the PSU first
vast meadow
I enabled a DOCP profile, but immediately reversed it when it kept happening eve...
Rma the ram
delicate iris
I bought it at a brick and mortar store so I guess im out of luck. I've had it for 5 months now.
grizzled bloom
I bought it at a brick and mortar store so I guess im out of luck. I've had it f...
What brand is it? Many have lifetime warranties
delicate iris
Corsair
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You have a 2 year warranty then, contact corsair
delicate iris
ok will try thank you.
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long yew
anyone have a suggestion for an x570 board on the cheaper end?
long yew
3700x
rocky beacon
Do you have any board now?
long yew
yeah
rocky beacon
Which board?
long yew
I have an MSI B550-A Pro
but it has a defective port, so I'm looking to get a replacement board (not MSI), then RMA this one
and believe me I couldn't possibly do more to conclude that the port is defective lol
long yew
median cedar
but it has a defective port, so I'm looking to get a replacement board (not MSI)...
I have the Asus x570 prime-a pro or something like that. I like it, tons of USB ports, etc.
long yew
I've seen that one around, it looks good
vast meadow
but it has a defective port, so I'm looking to get a replacement board (not MSI)...
I'd recommend something like an asus tuf b550 or gigabyte aorus elite/pro
finite elm
The b550 taichi only has 6 USBs. F
limber dragon
Id go gigabyte. Msi and asrock as the same meh tier, and I've seen way too many defective asus boards
long yew
found a deal on newegg for a new gigabyte b550 gaming x for $90
slight downgrade from the board I have in terms of ports and fan headers, but nothing I'm gonna notice
for that price I couldn't find anything better and unused
long yew
you can pick on up around $200
long yew
less depending on the seller and revision
jagged raptor
whats the best z590 mobo
supple sedge
I hear a lot of good stuff about the gigabyte aorus elite z590
jagged raptor
what cpu and what budget
i7 11700k
jagged raptor
what cpu and what budget
budget is really less important at this point yk
jagged raptor
I hear a lot of good stuff about the gigabyte aorus elite z590
i have too but i really like the asus strix z590
jagged raptor
why?
jagged raptor
dont get an 11700k
i7 11700k is rated 3rd; 5800x is rated 19th
vernal cosmos
i7 11700k is rated 3rd; 5800x is rated 19th
userbenchmark?
vernal cosmos
yeah userbenchmark is a joke
jagged raptor
oh damn
jagged raptor
i did not know that
vernal cosmos
yeah
jagged raptor
is 5800x better???
vernal cosmos
jagged raptor
how is 5800x better
jagged raptor
for 5800x?
vernal cosmos
yeah
jagged raptor
what abt everything else though
vernal cosmos
power delivery on a b550 board is better
vernal cosmos
what abt everything else though
the only thing which x570 is better is for extra pcie gen 4 lanes
jagged raptor
so b550 will at least have one right
vernal cosmos
yeah
and theres always pcie gen 4 slots not routed through the chipset
b550 aorus elite is very nice
jagged raptor
and theres always pcie gen 4 slots not routed through the chipset
what dat mean
limber dragon
If going amd, go b550 master
vernal cosmos
overkill
limber dragon
And?
vernal cosmos
its money most people dont need to spend
vernal cosmos
But why do you need it when 200$ boards are more than good enough
limber dragon
Because its $70 more for a much much better board
vernal cosmos
but why do most people need a much better board?
jagged raptor
b550 master is super good
limber dragon
Because more usb, more reliable lan, wifi, better vrm and heatsink, mobo backplate
I can pull up the spec sheet and go into it more if you really need it
vernal cosmos
Because more usb, more reliable lan, wifi, better vrm and heatsink, mobo backpla...
and how are any of these features needed by most people
aorus elite has more than good enough of all the things you listed
limber dragon
https://static.gigabyte.com/StaticFile/Image/Global/d52815e27f1379599421ed0baf14f20a/Product/25744/png/1000
https://static.gigabyte.com/StaticFile/Image/Global/bfa3b8e4a21771bef42e8dae73b1835f/Product/25259/png/1000
looks like elite v2 got updated to the same lan as the master
vernal cosmos
one was wifi the other doesnt tho
you can get the elite in wifi option
jagged raptor
oh
vernal cosmos
its called elite ax
jagged raptor
ok
but yall are saying the b550 elite ax/master is better than the asus rog strix?
vernal cosmos
I would get the elite ax and call it good. The master is great but wholly unecessary
limber dragon
unnecessary until you need a post code, need more m.2, need more sata, need more fan headers
vernal cosmos
Oh I like the new profile pic btw fitz
vernal cosmos
unnecessary until you need a post code, need more m.2, need more sata, need more...
pcie card and fan hub
limber dragon
bruh and there's the price difference 
vernal cosmos
I mean many cases come with fan hubs
and most people dont need that many m.2 slots
or error codes
or more sata ports
limber dragon
leave it up to them to decide
vernal cosmos
fair
limber dragon
pfp is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keMBtyjYUPQ
vernal cosmos
starset heck yeah!
vernal cosmos
if benchmarks are true I really need to get a hold on one of these
leaks not benchmarks
subtle crow
leaks then
Is the price of 11th and 10th gen cpus and mobos likely to drop with the release of 12th gen?
naive pendant
There's a listing for an x79 rampage extreme IV board that's listing as non-functional, and its only problems are
1: A few bent pins (no missing pins)
2: This corrosion on two SMDs behind the VRMs, although it doesnt look bad enough to prevent the board from working all on its own
Should I go for this board š¤
rocky beacon
How much?
naive pendant
If I cant talk the guy down to 110 i wont get it
Guy said the board stopped working when he went to microcenter to get a bios update and they bent the pins
burnt spear
Anyone seen how the new m1 chip compares to other cpu?
Or how the graphics on it perform?
weary condor
Motherboard came with this. Is this needed or can i connect my front panel connectors straight to the motherboard instead of this. Isnt an adapter
rocky beacon
This just allows you to plug your front panel headers in easier
It's up to you if you want to use it
weary condor
Yea i did it without it. Pain in the butt tho but used the labels on it to guide me
jagged kernel
Got a new mobo and cpu, but get a inaccessible boot error? It boots my other system, and I have done so much to try to fix it. Should I just send this mobo back and get a new one?
vast meadow
Got a new mobo and cpu, but get a inaccessible boot error? It boots my other sys...
What mobo what cpu?
spiral pier
should i enable fast boot on my gigabyte b450 motherboard?
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burnt spear
I dont think I really believe this, but https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tipster-outs-CPU-Z-benchmark-results-for-i5-12600K-beats-the-i9-11900K-and-nearly-doubles-the-5600X-s-multithreaded-score.574934.0.html
burnt spear
I guess
I'm interested to see other 11th gen i5 performances, since they supposedly don't have any of the new cores
burnt spear
One sec
hollow thorn
going to guess 6+6 since 12900k supposed to be 8+8
burnt spear
I think they're going to have the regular cores, none of the extra performance or whatever they're calling them
According to a leak I saw a while back though, so it could've been wrong
Either way it'd make sense
If they don't have them they'll have it as a budget cpu
hollow thorn
plz bring alder lake to x299
x299 already broke Intel's rule of having 2 gen per platform by having 3, they have to make a platform that only supports 1 generation now :p
main pulsar
i9-11980xe wen
burnt spear
What was the first i9 out of curiosity?
I've seen a 6900x I think, but I could be remembering wrong
burnt spear
Ah
jagged kernel
What mobo what cpu?
I5-10400f and Asus b560 prime plus
vast meadow
I5-10400f and Asus b560 prime plus
You have a gpu?
jagged kernel
You have a gpu?
Yeah, rtx 2060
vast meadow
Yeah, rtx 2060
Hmm, I'd try reseat(take out and put back in) your ram and graphic card
naive pendant
scored a deal on an x79 extreme9 board B)
long yew
what's with all the people who keep getting kicked for swearing in this channel
do cpus mobos and memory make people swear a lot
burnt spear
what's with all the people who keep getting kicked for swearing in this channel
Bots tryna ping everyone
long yew
lol
naive pendant
Example ^
wind karma
Best options for upgrading my r5 3600x? Got a 3060ti and I think there's some bottlenecking going on
grizzled bloom
It's not bottlenecking on cpu with that, maybe it's your memory? What are you running?
wind karma
It's not bottlenecking on cpu with that, maybe it's your memory? What are you ru...
Also 1080p 144
grizzled bloom
3200 is a bit slow for zen 2
wind karma
Looking at some videos I see people with 3060ti and a 5600x getting like 170fps at ultra settings BFV while I'm getting maybe 120 on high
grizzled bloom
Running faster memory allows your infinity fabric to run faster (how the cores talk to each other), 3200 to 3600 speed is very noticeably faster
wind karma
smoky widget
make sure you keep the infinity fabric 1:1 ratio. Also, decent clocks and timmings
wind karma
@grizzled bloom thinking I'll get this, could do it for $5-10 cheaper used but this way I can return it if it doesn't help
cyan raft
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2pk-8gb-3-6ghz-pc4-28800...
Go for crucial Ballistix 3600
Corsair ram is pretty meh
smoky widget
or G.skill
grizzled bloom
That's C18 so meh
cyan raft
G.skill CL16 is a good chunk more expensive
wind karma
Ram prices seem pretty low already, do y'all think they'll go lower for black friday/Cyber Monday?
Or maybe I just bought when they were high and its back to normal idk
cyan raft
They are back to normal now
grizzled bloom
Or you could overclock the memory that you have, 3200 memory usually can do 3600
cyan raft
I doubt they will get lower for Black Friday/cyber monday
wind karma
Or you could overclock the memory that you have, 3200 memory usually can do 3600
How would one go about that?
Is it via bios or an application like afterburner is for gpus?
grizzled bloom
First thing you should do is figure out what dies are on your memory
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md
You said you have corsair? There should be a version number on the label on the sticks that tells you what dies
grizzled bloom
Ok samsung c die
Decent enough
Follow that guide and keep in mind that it probably won't get you better results going above 1.35v or so, and do not go to 1.45v
wind karma
yikes
the first link I clicked on the github page got blocked by malwarebytes as a trojan
grizzled bloom
Which one? TM5?
wind karma
yeah
grizzled bloom
It's a false positive but I'll upload my copy
wind karma
just gonna use occt unless you really recommend tm5
grizzled bloom
OCCT is fine usually unless you really want to push it
wind karma
grizzled bloom
Yeah that's the one
wind karma
should I just try those timings at 3600
grizzled bloom
To start with try 1.35v 3600 18-22-22-44 and if that works you can tighten it up
wind karma
aight
grizzled bloom
tRCDWR and tRCDRD are both the second number in that string btw
tCL, tRCD RD/WR, tRP, tRAS
hollow thorn
Some Mobo will combine trcdrd/trcdwr into just trcd, mostly Intel afaik
grizzled bloom
Yep
hollow thorn
Good practice to pay attention to what Mobo says though, sometimes Mobo lists things a different order
wind karma
Pretty sure it was in the correct order
It booted
Running the stress test & benchmark
hollow thorn
(I got very annoyed at ram oc once when trcdwr and trcdrd was in different order in bios than other places)
wind karma
How do I go about tightening the timings
18-21-21-___?
@grizzled bloom
@hollow thorn
hollow thorn
Probably try one timing at a time, tighten trcdrd and trcdwr separately, iirc the guide tells you bit more
wind karma
what about the last number?
hollow thorn
Oh yea guide tightens secondaries first, could try that first
hollow thorn
what about the last number?
You could try 40 for tRAS to start off maybe
wind karma
ok
long yew
haven't been able to find all that much info on zen 4
do you guys think it'll blow alder lake out of the water
grizzled bloom
š¤·āāļø
They're keeping it under wraps for now, unlike intel that leaks more than a ghetto sink
wind karma
so the memory seems stable at 3600mhz but I think my cinebench score went down
im just gonna try a game rq
eh
still around 110-120 fps most places in bfv
fresh river
My cpu settings are 185 PPT, 125 TDC, 170 EDC and max temps are 73C on a 5900x
Is this good or
polar moth
So I have Gigabyte B560M DS3H AC, and I installed my NVME ssd on first slot and it doesn't works so I went to my motherboards website and there's this:
So does that mean the first top nvme slot can only support ssds with 4.0 capability?
Or am I missing something here?
Plus my boot drive only works on bottom ssd slot
BTW I have 10th Intel cpu
cursive epoch
So I have Gigabyte B560M DS3H AC, and I installed my NVME ssd on first slot and ...
your cpu doesn't have pcie gen 4 support, so yes
it has to be on bottom slot
limber dragon
your cpu doesn't have pcie gen 4 support, so yes
not really the reason, but the same end result
if the intel cpu doesnt have pcie 4 support, its not a 11th gen cpu, so it doesnt have the 4 lanes to the top nvme slot
polar moth
so all i have to enter bios and then disable pcie 4.0?
limber dragon
what cpu do you have?
limber dragon
then your cpu doesnt have any pcie lanes for the nvme slot above the gpu
lower slot should* work without issue, as its going through the chipset as opposed to going to the cpu directly
limber dragon
you should be able to, just check the manual to see if any sata slots get disabled when you have the nvme installed
generally 2 sata ports get disabled
ignore the M2P_CPU part, since that's the top slot
it looks to be that you only lose one sata slot (sata 1) if you have a sata m.2 ssd installed
polar moth
you should be able to, just check the manual to see if any sata slots get disabl...
I mean I want to use the first top NVME slot or it's disabled permantly unless i shove into older chip to get both m2 slots working?
median cedar
Quick question, if I update my bios version to the newest one (Support for Ryzen 5000) will my 3000 series cpu still work afterwards?
cursive epoch
Quick question, if I update my bios version to the newest one (Support for Ryzen...
yes
median cedar
Little nervous to do it, never done it before lol
hollow thorn
@gritty meadow very interesting interview by Ian cutress, article here, also in video form
https://www.anandtech.com/show/17031/anandtech-interviews-mike-clark-amds-chief-architect-of-zen
coral flume
What Motherboard would you guys recommend for 5950x?
limber dragon
B550 master
short pond
So with the delays to threadripper 5000 series are they just gonna be behind the curve with the DDR5 memory coming out and(supposedly) no pci gen 5 support?
limber dragon
I mean, if you call a 64+ core zen3 cpu, most likely with 3dcache "behind the curve" vs intel's not ddr5 hedt, then sure
intel hasnt released or announced ddr5 hedt
short pond
I mean, I wasnāt comparing it to intel, I was just more curious if support for the upgraded memory and pci gen 5 would be a much better upgrade
limber dragon
mem bandwidth maybe, but its already at 4/8 channel depending on the platform, and no devices use pcie 5 yet
grizzled bloom
Most devices can't use pcie 4 still
granite river
Ryzen 9 5950x : 11906
i9-12900k: 11986.9
grizzled bloom
Source?
silent folio
The Rog z690 has an extended pcie slot retention bracket release button 
Thatās soooo nice
vast meadow
Currently on 7700k
Would be a nice upgrade, even the 12600k tbh would be, do be aware of the ddr5 adopters tax tho
livid sparrow
Wait a minute, since when has it been okay to compare an overclocked cpu to a competing cpu at stock? I don't even care about the power draw or the performance difference, that comparison just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
hollow thorn
silent folio
Definitely want to upgrade my 6700k running with DDR4-2133 ram 
But kinda concerned about how alder lake processor basically forces you to use windows 11 for optimal experience
digital kernel
I'm guessing windows 10 will get some of the thread scheduling improvements too, Intel was just using windows 11 optimization as a marketing point
barren iris
Windows 11 seems to improve the Laptop experience but idk if itās worth it for desktop
crimson cedar
so anyone trying to order z690 boards and ddr5?
can't find any compatible coolers or bracket kits for lga1700 available yet.. my local store says they heard ddr5 motherboards will be coming out at a later date?
vast meadow
so anyone trying to order z690 boards and ddr5?
No point as they'll be preorder anyway
Or early ddr5, spensiv
silent folio
can't find any compatible coolers or bracket kits for lga1700 available yet.. my...
Some previously released cooling brackets are already compatible. Other manufacturers are releasing free or paid bracket updates to your existing coolers to make them compatible, so if you have a cooler, go to the manufacturers website and look or inquire as to if they have lga 1700 conversion kits
For example, be quiet! will be giving free kits for some of their coolers: https://www.bequiet.com/en/contact/lga1700mounting
crimson cedar
Corsair has the mounting kits as out of stock. Can't find any word about any for non-corsair AIO's
grizzled bloom
Or early ddr5, spensiv
And not as fast as the OC kits that are on the way
crimson cedar
most people don't buy the top end fastest ram kits.. I rather have something and worry about that later
grizzled bloom
I'm not most people, but you're mostly right. It's fast enough for now until xmp kits start popping up.
I'm not moving to ddr5 until at least 8000 kits are binned
naive pendant
what do you think about ASUS PRIME X370 + i7-8086K
crimson cedar
hm, you're thinking the ddr5 5200 kits will be below average later on?
grizzled bloom
6400 is still jedec speed
The highest current jedec speed is ddr4 3200
There's kits binned for ddr4 5333
Assuming proportions stay about that range, 8000 should be easy
vernal cosmos
6400 is still jedec speed
Thats less than ddr4 record
crimson cedar
I don't want to be sitting on a 12900k I can't use for who knows how long.. or buy a ddr4 board that I'd have to replace soon
vernal cosmos
7200 ram go brrrr
grizzled bloom
Yeah on LN2
grizzled bloom
I don't want to be sitting on a 12900k I can't use for who knows how long.. or b...
That's the current situation, pay more now or pay more later
grizzled bloom
LN2 closed loop when <:Dumb:641088252849291274>
EVGA roboclocker
crimson cedar
I think it'd be easier to resell the ram and get faster ram later if necessary, than the effort of getting a lga1700 ddr4 board, not being able to sell current PC with ram in it, and needing to buy new ram/mobo later
vast meadow
And not as fast as the OC kits that are on the way
Exactly, way better waiting at least til the cpus are released lol
vernal cosmos
EVGA roboclocker
Thats a "closed loop" not really an actual proper closed loop iirc
crimson cedar
I'll have the 12900k in my hands in a week though
grizzled bloom
Yeah but physics makes a true closed loop near impossible
vernal cosmos
Exactly why I put the 
emoji
grizzled bloom
I'll have the 12900k in my hands in a week though
In a week? I thought they start shipping 11/4
crimson cedar
I preordered it at local store, only order, who already have it sitting there ready
vast meadow
I think it'd be easier to resell the ram and get faster ram later if necessary, ...
Well don't think anyone is suggesting a ddr4 board
grizzled bloom
Ah so you're just ahead of the curve for local pickup
vast meadow
If they have the cpu already you not getting till release date anyway
They don't wanna loose their intel contract for a few days and possibly a few quick bucks
crimson cedar
yeah, which is next week
trying to see how quick I can get ram/mobo/cooler around then
grizzled bloom
The 4th is really that close... Good riddance to this year
vast meadow
trying to see how quick I can get ram/mobo/cooler around then
Well coolers will have adapters/new coolers that support lga 1700 out of box pretty soon so I'd honestly see what comes out in the next few days
crimson cedar
the ddr5200.. I can likely tune it faster myself, or replace and resell it if much better is out later
vast meadow
Ehh with the way ddr5 is, non overclock kits you wont be able to overclock from my understanding
crimson cedar
motherboard specs list 5200 as overclocked?
the specs on the ram say it is xmp
I didn't know that though, that's good info
vast meadow
motherboard specs list 5200 as overclocked?
Pretty sure 5200 is jdec
But yeah the voltage controller is now on the sticks so yeah
crimson cedar
oh, thanks, didn't realize that
grizzled bloom
Ehh with the way ddr5 is, non overclock kits you wont be able to overclock from ...
You'll be able to tune it but voltage is limited to 1.43v (I'm pretty sure that was it) and unlocked ones have no voltage limit
vast meadow
You'll be able to tune it but voltage is limited to 1.43v (I'm pretty sure that ...
Ahh right, i honestly wasn't sure from what I've seen if they locked voltages or not
grizzled bloom
the specs on the ram say it is xmp
It probably has a xmp profile with tighter timings and increased voltage , like ddr4 2666 c14 kits
sweet echo
so i got a new gpu and i still have my icpu still in my computer im waiting to upgrade that ,i was wondering is my icpu causing my games to freeze and lag ?
and whats the best cpu right now on the market for a good deal
that will run most games and not be slow
vast meadow
so i got a new gpu and i still have my icpu still in my computer im waiting to u...
Well 1, did you plug your monitor into your gpu, 2 what cpu you got now?
sweet echo
lol yeah its in my gpu,and its a icpu the athlon 300g
sweet echo
i have 16gb of ram and a gigabyte b450m v2 and i was just hoping it was a cpu issue ?
vast meadow
i have 16gb of ram and a gigabyte b450m v2 and i was just hoping it was a cpu is...
What speed and cl ram, 2x8gb or 1x16gn
Well it is a cpu issue a bit but could also be ram
sweet echo
there at 3000mhz and its 2 sticks 8 each
vast meadow
Okay rams fine then, I'd recommend grabbing a used ryzen 3 3100/3300x or Ryzen 5 3600/x
sweet echo
alright and is 200 -250 usd a good range cause i dont have a whole lot at the momment
vast meadow
alright and is 200 -250 usd a good range cause i dont have a whole lot at the mo...
Yeah you should be able to find one of those for 100-150
short pond
I'm running an asus X570-I Gaming motherboard with a Ryzen 5700g processor using the integrated graphics, there is a displayport and HDMI port on the motherboard and they both work individually. But when I connect a monitor to both at the same time it doesnt even detect the monitor plugged into the HDMI port(it detects and displays on it perfectly when it is the only monitor plugged in) I have enable IGFX multi monitor in the bios but that did not make a difference, anyone have any idea what might be the issue?
digital kernel
Assuming proportions stay about that range, 8000 should be easy
grizzled bloom
Sure but when will they be available?
burnt spear
Sure but when will they be available?
In 525600 minutes
How do you measure, measure a year
In daylight, in sunsets, in moonlight, in cups of coffee
subtle crow
I thought that was actually less than the 11900k, by like a tiny bit
silent folio
My 250w tdp dark rock pro 4: 
silent folio
I thought that was actually less than the 11900k, by like a tiny bit
11900k stock is 170w
subtle crow
huh, I'm mostly hoping to get the 12600k
hopefully it leaves the 5600X and maybe 5800X in the dust
grizzled bloom
I also like how they not only compared their overclocked processor to a stock processor, but also on windows 11 without the performance fix
burnt spear
12600k is probably going to be the cpu to go for imo
Since it has the performance cores and is going to cost what, 300$?
subtle crow
320$ is what newegg has it at
silent folio
Since it has the performance cores and is going to cost what, 300$?
If you can get one
cyan raft
I want to get 12th gen Intel but I donāt see a point to it for me yet 
rocky beacon
I hope to pick up a 12900K at release
subtle crow
lol, it would certainly be an upgrade from my i7-950
grizzled bloom
If you can get one
Preorders are still available last I checked
burnt spear
I want to get 12th gen Intel but I donāt see a point to it for me yet <:ssadge:8...
My parents won't let me spend my own money to do it :p
cyan raft
I wonder how big of an upgrade it would be over my 5900x
grizzled bloom
We won't know until it launches, embargo lifts on launch day
silent folio
Nov 4
vast meadow
Since it has the performance cores and is going to cost what, 300$?
Ddr5 adopter tax and probs more expensive mobo than 5600x needs
burnt spear
Ddr5 adopter tax and probs more expensive mobo than 5600x needs
Yeah true
But I still think it'll be the cpu to go for for the average user
vast meadow
I want to get 12th gen Intel but I donāt see a point to it for me yet <:ssadge:8...
Nah, that's actually good thing tho, no adopter tax, no early possible issues and more refined stuff for possibly cheaper
cyan raft
Thatās kinda why I upgraded to the 5900x from my 3700x
vast meadow
But I still think it'll be the cpu to go for for the average user
We will see, as fal said, all testing was done on win 11 before ryzen fix
burnt spear
Yeah
digital kernel
Sure but when will they be available?
Theoretically now, don't know if any dimms are using them though
grizzled bloom
The linked article specifically said there's no word on official release for that series
pale fox
do you think 2x8gb is enough for a pc?
pale fox
Thatās kinda why I upgraded to the 5900x from my 3700x
nice anime pfc
vast meadow
do you think 2x8gb is enough for a pc?
For mid/high-ish gaming pc yeah
naive pendant
12900k stock 248w power consumption, 330w power consumption at 5.2ghz
more than my overclocked 1660v3 LOL
naive pendant
subtle crow
I'm actually surprised how cheap the Z690 boards are going for on amazon
hollow thorn
'cheap'
subtle crow
I did not expect brand new products with a whole bunch of new features to come for less than 200 bucks
hollow thorn
I mean, z590 was a 'brand new product with a whole bunch of new features' and did have boards under 200$
subtle crow
Just kinda nice, as long as the price of 12th gen cpus don't triple, a new system shouldn't come for too much
hollow thorn
This part is still great no matter how many times I see it
https://youtu.be/WwAmgnT8sDk?t=712
wind karma
I'm running a 3600x and 3060ti and seem to be cpu bottlenecked (particularly in BFV). people seemed to think that 3200mhz ram was limiting my cpu so I tried OCing ram to from 3200 to 3600. It seemed stable but didn't notice any increase in performance.
Should I try buying actual 3600mhz ram? (and return it if it doesnt help)
Or just go for a new cpu
burnt spear
I'm running a 3600x and 3060ti and seem to be cpu bottlenecked (particularly in ...
What games are you playing?
I run a 3600 with a 3060 ti and I don't notice any bottlenecking
Also what ram do you have currently?
wind karma
2x8 corsair vengeance 3200mhz
Apex, Battlefield V, CSGO (obviously no issues here)
1080p 144hz
burnt spear
2x8 corsair vengeance 3200mhz
What's the timings (cl18, cl16, etc)
If you have a link that works too
hollow thorn
And did you set timings w 3600?
wind karma
And did you set timings w 3600?
yeah got down to 18-20-20-40
burnt spear
Honestly with a 3600x even with 3200mhz ram there wouldn't be a huge bottleneck
hollow thorn
eh
burnt spear
I wouldnt spend 100$ on a new kit of ram for the slight perf boost
I'd reccomend running a cinebench to see if your cpu is similar to an average 3600x, since ram speeds don't affect cinebench
hollow thorn
I wouldn't spent for another kit but considering it's corsair you might've just gotten garbage bin and can't really tighten more
but oh well
burnt spear
Not much anyways
If I had to guess 3600x wirh 3200mhz ram is probably close enough to a 3600 in performance
Not that there's a huge difference anyways
wind karma
Figured I could sell the current kit and offset the price a decent amount
lemme run cine real quick
multi or single?
burnt spear
R23, and both would be good
wind karma
ok
burnt spear
I want to say my single is 1245 and mc is 9023
But I could be remembering wrong
Wow I was almost exactly right
1235 single core
9023 multi
Just checked chat logs lmao
burnt spear
Eek
That's pretty low
Your ram kit could be broken, have your experienced any blue screening?
Or games randomly crashing?
Also what motherboard do you have?
hollow thorn
o no
burnt spear
:p
burnt spear
What cpu cooler?
hollow thorn
and temps
burnt spear
Yeah thats why I ask
wind karma
Hyper 212 Evo