cpus-mobo-and-memory

[rocky beacon]

Jesus

[vast meadow]

That's a fatttttttt waste of money

[rocky beacon]

For what CPU?

[bright turret]

yep yep

[rocky beacon]

You get epic stickers tho

[naive pendant]

Is that bad?

[rocky beacon]

That 100% makes it worth it

Lmfao a keychain also

[bright turret]

i never use stickers

[vast meadow]

Doesn't matter unless you're doing competitive ln2 oc lmao

[rocky beacon]

That's kinda cool, I wish companies did this to their cheaper higher end boards

[naive pendant]

I see people with cpu that are 3 years old and run in good shape

[cyan raft]

I have some epic stickers

[vast meadow]

It is if you buy it in 2021 and put it on a board worth like 65$ more than it

When you could get an 11600k

[vast meadow]

That's not the point, the 11600k is a lot better, it's fine if you already have it but its not good if you buy it no really

Like yeah a 9900k is a good cpu, should you buy it in 2021? Helllll no

[cyan raft]

If you’re buying now, why would you want to buy something 2-3 years old?

[rocky beacon]

I wish I kept my 9900K

The packaging was awesome

[mild jackal]

9900k too hard to cool

[cyan raft]

I wish Asus didn’t steal my mobo’s box

That box was so nice

The top of it opened like a briefcase and not a regular box

I miss that box

[dim cloak]

Man i loved when i got that asus tuf 590 it was open box but had all the stickers only missing thing was manual

[vast meadow]

Rip

I mean there's one online so

[cyan raft]

There’s a Crosshair VIII Hero box online?

[naive pendant]

Does the 10400 and 10600k have a big difference other than the fact the 10600k can overclock

[burnt spear]

I think around 15% performance difference

[steady wigeon]

looks like i'll be waiting another year so i can get the CPU

[bright turret]

let us wait together. I too want to upgrade fast but it seems to be unworth it since new gen mobo uses a new socket which past gen cpu are obsolete.

[steady wigeon]

can't wait for intel generation 15

they push new gens out so fast

[dim cloak]

Yo the new I5 15th gen finna have 16 big cores and 14 small cores lol

[steady wigeon]

it'll be big too

bigger than that corsair joke fan

[bright turret]

lol id buy that corsair joke fan tho

it may look like a joke, but if consumers would like to buy it, then why not.

[dim cloak]

Honestly you can make one just need the materials and with a 3D printer its real simple

And maybe a rasberry pi

[devout moth]

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[naive pendant]

Can I pair a 10600k with a b460 ? (Ik the the 10600k ability to oc will be disabled I’m just asking if it will work)

[burnt spear]

I think it'll work but I'd go with a 490

[naive pendant]

yeah it's gonna work fine
just no OC

[naive pendant]

No more oc☹️

Thanks

[long geyser]

Cant get b560? You also lose memory OC which is big

[cursive epoch]

^

No XMP, big nah

[silent widget]

Just RMA'd my CPU (AMD 3950x) and the new CPU seems to be working flawlessly. No WHEA or event-41 processor errors or phantom restarts every 3-days. Did receive some interesting feedback from AMD... Basically there was an abnormally high failure rate on the internal memory controllers during the early production run of this chip (possibly as high a 7%). Anyways, several months later I wanted to thank everyone here for your help trouble shooting this...it was a very elusive issue (~replaced both PSU and RAM).

***windows event logs to AMD were the key body of evidence btw. They will ask for those.

[vast meadow]

Yes but you should get a b560 instead, and if you can't overclock and don't need the igpu just get an i5 11400 and b560

[naive pendant]

Not even to 3200?

[cursive epoch]

yep, it's capped to 2666

[naive pendant]

On Reddit people are saying that I can oc my ram just not my cpu

[cursive epoch]

Not sure

But getting B560 would be best bet

No guessing needed

[naive pendant]

Thanks

[vast meadow]

That's only b560 not b460, but you'd still be better of with an 11400f if you don't need the igpu and wont be overclocking anyway

[cyan raft]

So B460 is locked to 1.2V or is it just frequency locked?

[vast meadow]

B460 is just locked to 2666 on i3 i5, 2933 i7 i9

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok so its not like OEM boards

Like my dad’s Lenovo legion is completely locked at 1.2v to the ram dimms and no OC capabilities

[fossil imp]

OEM boards normally have a lock on things like that which sucks

[vast meadow]

Not entirely sure

[cyan raft]

What’s a good motherboard for a 10700K?

[vast meadow]

Z590 ud ac nice board

[cyan raft]

Thanks I’m thinking about surprising my dad with a new motherboard because he wants faster ram

[vast meadow]

Ahh nice

[vivid lynx]

So looking for a new mobo eventually got a Asus prime b550 M-atx atm looking to go full atx

With usb type c

[vast meadow]

Oof yeah i wouldn't put a 3900x on a b550 prime

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JXBhP6/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZyjNnQ/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wi-fi or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi

[vivid lynx]

How come?

That's a nice board but wouldn't need WiFi on it use ethernet but that's nice

[vast meadow]

How come i wouldn't put a 3900x on a b550 prime?

[vast meadow]

There's also an asus tuf b550 non wifi too

Just happened to link the wifi one

[vivid lynx]

Yeah and sweet ill look into them

[vast meadow]

Just not built to handle a 3900x lol

Vrms etc

[vivid lynx]

Ahh right fair enough yeah I do need to get one soon but not just yet maybe ram and storage first

[subtle matrix]

Is it normal for my cpu to be 90c while rendering?

[zenith rapids]

No probably not.

That’s pretty high.

[vast meadow]

What cooler do you have ?

[subtle matrix]

Mag coreliquid 240r

[vast meadow]

Ahh

Well

[zenith rapids]

Are you using peanut butter as thermal paste?

[vast meadow]

You have meh aio tryna cool a miniature sun

@subtle matrix make sure the pump is constantly 100%

Actually more important, if you can return the aio

[subtle matrix]

Which one would you recommend

[vast meadow]

Can you return the aio?

Well I'd try setting pump to 100%

First

[subtle matrix]

Yea

Kk

[vast meadow]

But arctic liquid ii 280mm/360mm, ek rgb 360mm, or lian li Galahad 360m.

[dim cloak]

Artic liquid II 360mm does fantastic for me especially under 100% load for 4hrs and only stay at 72°C

And i have set my pump to any percentage either yet so i can get it to go lower

[split copper]

should have pump at 100%

[proud dove]

I have a h100i and i was wondering what i should have the pump at for performance should i put it to max

[split copper]

should have pump at 100%

[proud dove]

ok

will it be louder or will it stay the same

[split copper]

should have pump at 100%

[proud dove]

but will it be louder thats all i will put it to 100 just wanna know if its gonna be louder

[split copper]

it shouldn't be too loud I don't think

[proud dove]

ok thanks

[mild jackal]

Try it and see?

[proud dove]

i did and i dont hear i difference

[split copper]

sometimes if your aio isn't settled it'll gurgle with air bubbles I think xd

perfect then

[proud dove]

yea

[devout moth]

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[cursive epoch]

yay, bots

[trail crescent]

@long basalt thanks for the reply. I've used macs quite a bit having worked on other artist's, producer's, and studio's setups, but just can't stand them. I'm MUCH more comfortable with Windows OS and can get so much more for the money this way, unless I'm mistaken. Additionally, plug-in providers like Waves STILL haven't made all of their plug-ins M-chip compatible, and even if they had, these first generation M1's are capped at 16GB of RAM (I'm aware that the topology of apple's hardware, especially the new silicon M chips, facilitate more efficient usage of RAM and processing cores). If I went the Mac route, I'd be waiting at LEAST until their M2's come out and likely pay upwards of $3k. I've been getting by with my nearly 10 year-old ASUS laptop and USB interfaces/peripherals until recently and figured I'd take this opportunity to address both of those. @midnight pollen I have a feeling that you're right; I only have this one note from a review of the ProArt mobo to go off of: "Pcie slot is shared with thunderbolt, not really a con just make sure you are aware." and the newegg chat (bot?) directed me here. The only other mobo listed on newegg that's compatible with the AMD stuff has TB3 ports . So perhaps I'll have to go with my Intel build, which is already costing another couple hundred. Thanks again you two 🤘

[long basalt]

You would be better off buying the Mac Pro that isn't based on the M1 chip. It will get things done faster and has wider compatibility than Windows for basically everything Audio Production related. If everyone else is using it (and everyone else is) you should probably adopt it so you aren't confused as fork when you go to another studio.

That's what I was trying to tell you to do in the first place, and your mind jumped to the M1 equipped Macs, which is not what I had in mind at ALL.

Not trying to be stubborn or anything, but. I think you'd have a better experience overall with working with audio if you aren't bucking the system by using Windows.

[burnt spear]

I definitely understand hating Mac, but sometimes it's a "necessary evil"

[long basalt]

Especially in the Audio World.

[burnt spear]

I despise Mac too

[trail crescent]

I get you - believe me I do. My sweetwater rep was suggesting the mac route for these studios I'm set to manage with a label I work for, which definitely makes sense as clients will be using those. This is just for my home studio. I can get my way around a mac, don't get me wrong...I presumed M1 because of their stability and efficiency, and given that their intel mac minis cap at 6-core, 8th generation i7s

[burnt spear]

Well just apple in general

[long basalt]

I wasn't talking about a Mac Mini either.

I was talking about a wholeass Mac Pro

[trail crescent]

dag gummit.

truth

[long basalt]

Like, the base-model Mac Pro

[burnt spear]

I'd edit that before you get Warned

[long basalt]

I've never been warned for that.

[burnt spear]

Oh

Ok

[long basalt]

If the bot doesn't catch it, It ain't my fault.

[burnt spear]

Lol

[long basalt]

And, TBH the rulings on "foul language" are a bit prehistoric anyway.

[trail crescent]

okay I'm not made of money lol

[burnt spear]

I agree, but I just follow the rules

[long basalt]

I mean, if you're in the audio world, it's... honestly not the worst purchase you could ever make.

[burnt spear]

Macs are just so overpriced and I hate the softwares

Apple in general

[long basalt]

6 grand for the base model is... downright cheap compared to solid audio gear.

[burnt spear]

And they literally used to sabatoge their own batteries

[long basalt]

Especially production level audio gear.

[burnt spear]

I was just talking about Apple in general really

Their laptops start at what, 1k?

[trail crescent]

And you're right about that. Again, I see the benefits. I'm just working with a $2500 +/- budget

[burnt spear]

For a laptop with less than par graphics, a cpu on par with 10th gen intel (m1 chip)

[long basalt]

Yeah, the cheap MBAir is 999.00

[long basalt]

That's like, 3 monthly payments on the Mac Pro base model?

It's $499.91/month for 12 months financing

If you can stomach that, that's a nice Credit Score booster.

[trail crescent]

Credit limit is $2600 at the moment 😫

[long basalt]

I doubt Apple cares about your own personal credit "limit"

On your credit card.

[trail crescent]

Oh wait my bad I was completely misinterpreting the base model purchase thing

[long basalt]

Yeah, the base model Mac Pro should be plenty for an audio workstation.

It's an 8c Xeon W, 32GB of RAM, and a Radeon Pro 580X

[trail crescent]

But I'd also argue that you don't need to be paying $6k+ for 'solid' audio gear. More and more is getting done in the box nowadays...and I'm all about using analog gear when I can

so don't let me give the impression that I'm one of those dime-a-dozen hip-hop guys with krk's and a macbook lol

With a scarlett 2i2 😆

[midnight pollen]

A intel mac is just extremely expensive

And the m chips can be spotty with compatibility, but i am only now starting to download all my vsts and one thing to note is even if they are not natively supported, all the vsts ive used so far work pretty much flawlessly as long as its in a native daw

I use reaper’s beta arm edition atm

[trail crescent]

ProTools over here again, with the $$, PC builds became my go-to. I mean @long basalt even the base level mac pros are just 256GB of SS memory. It looks like these things can be upgraded after the fact, but good god it's just a whole new set of problems to work with financially.

[long basalt]

It's either you take

Financial issues

Issues with being on the non-dominant platform

MacOS is currently the dominant platform for Audio and arguably Video production

So... You either take your lumps financially, or you take them with not being on the dominant platform, and people can't help you.

[trail crescent]

No arguing there

ah jeez rick.

I've got to mull this over some more. @long basalt, I sincerely appreciate your input. 🤘

[long basalt]

NP

[vernal cosmos]

M1 gpu ~ 1650

@burnt spear

[midnight pollen]

macs are pretty good for that stuff because they know a lot of their market is for video and audio, their components are made with that in mind. it's not impossible to get that kind of specific quality with custom pcs but you might have to do lot of research into what to get. I don't know of one but I feel like there may have been people with lists of components known to cause issues with each other or specifically have clock issues for audio etc etc. I don't know much of it personally but if you look enough might find something

[vernal cosmos]

THIS.

It isnt marketed towards gamers or general users

it is a productivity focused no bs OS

[midnight pollen]

productivity focused and they focus on ease of use for those not that knowledgable about computers

[vernal cosmos]

Exactly.

Its an OS you dont really need an antivirus for

[midnight pollen]

you do sacrifice a bit of customizability

[vernal cosmos]

you can use it as is right out of the gate no extra stuff needed

[vernal cosmos]

Its not meant for stuff like that tbf. Its an absolute no bs OS

made for 1 thing and one thing only

sheer productivity

[midnight pollen]

obviously some people like to do things in a very specific way like my music players 😦 but it's nice for someone just trying to get work done without messing with settings

[vast meadow]

all you need for Windows is windows defender anyway

[vernal cosmos]

yeah but with mac you dont even really have to look out for sus links

[vast meadow]

Ehhh idk how much i trust that ngl

[vernal cosmos]

I did that for 8 years

clicked whatever I wanted

some very sus links

one that destroyed my laptop in a day

macos going fine 0 viruses

[vast meadow]

You realise thats cuz the virus exploited something in windows/java or something

[vernal cosmos]

I know but the point is there were multiple sus links I used to click on and 0 viruses

[vast meadow]

Macs can get viruses too lol they just gotta be targeted towards them, which are becoming more popular

[vernal cosmos]

quite a few of those were macos dmg files

like dmg is a macos format and I had like many many many apps for mac from sus sources

so yeah the chance of you getting infected by a virus on macos is astronomically lower than on windows

[vast meadow]

Aight

[vernal cosmos]

ofc my expiriance isnt the do all end all but all in all for whatever reason getting mac viruses are just lower

[midnight pollen]

Ive had one bad virus on a mac before few years ago, was a pain to get rid of. Lately they been changing how their browser security works so idk what it would do now. Just dont click on anything sus smh

[warm rain]

brothas

i found a 7$ cpu

the xeon E5603

[mild jackal]

not even worth $7 tbh

[zenith rapids]

Hehe

[mild jackal]

16c piledriver opterons are < $1 a core now lol

Also

[supple karma]

Is the vision d motherboard any good?

[vast meadow]

It's fine if you must have a white motherboard and not slightly silver(that looks basically white) or any other colour

[cedar glade]

Man I'm so glad I snagged a new 3600 in December for 150

Before AMD supply just disappeared

It's a great CPU for running proxmox on

[main pulsar]

pog

[devout moth]

Tokyo#7703 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Tokyo#7703 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[earnest rover]

Good night and morning

This this means my ram is running at rated speed (3200)

Or it's just the info for the fact the ram was advertised for 3200

[burnt spear]

You ram is running at 3200mhz

[earnest rover]

Seriously I've been trying to get it at that since I got it

I used ryzen master n set to auto oc plus in bios its set to 3200

So in theory. The cpu had to be oc in order for the ram to oc?

But then this is the bios lol

[grizzled bloom]

Not necessary on modern systems. Not since original DDR days. Something else was probably interfering, like SoC voltage was too low and it wouldn't train the memory.

[cyan raft]

@stiff kraken This new 5900x is even better than my old one, it’s boosting to 5.1-5.2gHz quite easily

[stiff kraken]

oh?

5.15 should be the absolute max possible

so if you're seeing 5.2 that's kinda sussy bro

[sacred turtle]

maybe they won a silicon lottery

[hollow thorn]

prob not gonna do 5.2 sustained in multi-core loads

[stiff kraken]

values hard fused by amd are not something you just win with silicon lottery

[hollow thorn]

I mean, pbo can prob move the v/f table to a point where you can get that

[stiff kraken]

5.2 manual is obviously impossible and 4.95 is the stock boost limit so +200 override is 5.15

[cyan raft]

By 5.1-5.2 I mean values between them

[sacred turtle]

look I don't know what restrictions AMD set all i know is some chips clock better than others

[cyan raft]

I didn’t hit 5.2

[stiff kraken]

yeah probably 5.15

you have a good chip if any cores can hit 5.15

[cyan raft]

Lmao I wish I could hit 5.2

What are good temps for a 5900x under load?

[grizzled bloom]

My 5800X boosts 500 mhz above rated spec with no changes, full stock

[hollow thorn]

above rated max boost?

or you mean above base

[grizzled bloom]

Above rated max, bnib

[stiff kraken]

you get 5.2ghz at stock?

what

[grizzled bloom]

That was one of the first things I noticed lol

[stiff kraken]

sounds like a misread

stock is 4.85 max

[grizzled bloom]

No I don't get 5.2, I get 4.9 stock

I get 5.15 with boost override +200 tho

[stiff kraken]

what on earth

that doesn't even make sense

how does 4.9 + 0.2 = 5.15

[grizzled bloom]

Ikr

AMD logic

[stiff kraken]

maybe you have one of those 5800x with the phantom dead second ccx

and it has 5900x limits fused on for some reason

only possible explanation i can think of

5900x is allowed to do 4.9 stock and 5.15 with +200 override

well, it's allowed to do 4.95 stock

but those spikes are rare so understandable if 4.9 was the highest you saw

well you've got something special

glad it went to someone that isn't leaving it at stock to languish in an office machine forever

i can think of few better people to receive such an interesting sample

[limber dragon]

you get 4.85 stock, you need cpu snapshotting or whatever enabled for proper readings

[stiff kraken]

oh?

fitz speaketh

[robust leaf]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R6552VS/ Is this ram any good? Also is the price good?

[grizzled bloom]

With the skepticism growing in About to clear cmos and prove it

[stiff kraken]

@limber dragondo you think it would be at all possible for one of the dual ccx chips to have the wrong limits fused?

[cyan raft]

Kinda wish der8auer had a sample like that

[stiff kraken]

assuming it was intended to be a 5900x or a 5950x

[limber dragon]

clearing cmos wont do anything, its the settings of the monitoring software

[grizzled bloom]

I'm hurt
Not like I'm not posting on hwbot with it

[stiff kraken]

he means he's gonna set it back to stock and show

[robust leaf]

...

[stiff kraken]

fal'cie i love you but come on i would love to see someone like AHOC investigate lol

[limber dragon]

my 3900xt hitting "5ghz" at stock was because it didnt have snapshot enabled

[stiff kraken]

what i typed was meant to be a compliment

[robust leaf]

I have a 5600x and ROG Strix B550-f if that helps

[limber dragon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky5Bc/edit#gid=0

[stiff kraken]

do not make the mistake of buying a 4000 mt/s ram kit for zen 3 unless you want to do manual ram oc to make it work at 3600-3800

[cyan raft]

Idk why but this seems a bit low

[stiff kraken]

if you just want to set and forget stay away from 4000 mt/s

because it will not let you set and forget lol

[cyan raft]

And for some reason time spy doesn’t want to boost to 5GHz+

[grizzled bloom]

3600c16 is plenty for zen 3, and should oc to 3800 easy

[stiff kraken]

time spy cpu test is an all core load so you won't see speeds like that

and cpu speed doesn't matter in graphics test

[cyan raft]

True

[grizzled bloom]

You need LN2 to see all core boost that high

[cyan raft]

I guess I was just expecting something higher in timespy

[stiff kraken]

i would worry more about your all core boost more than what it says the highest speed is for a split second

[grizzled bloom]

Or at least a chiller

[stiff kraken]

if you want to max out your time spy score do a manual oc

[grizzled bloom]

Same with r23

[limber dragon]

it kind of does, but you need insane gpus to see it

[cyan raft]

Could you help me out with that tomorrow?

[stiff kraken]

well in this context a 5900x at 4.9 is not gonna bottle neck a single 6800xt in time spy graphics test

[robust leaf]

ah ok

[stiff kraken]

if you have the cooling for it you'll be fine running some benches at 1.35v or so

just don't daily that

or electromigration will pay you a visit soon 👍

[cyan raft]

I don’t really daily CPU OCs lol

[stiff kraken]

honestly wouldn't recommend going above 1.35 even for quick bench runs

[limber dragon]

I mean, Im fairly cpu bottlenecked with a 6900xt and 5800x, it'll still hit 90-95% gpu usage

[stiff kraken]

i saw slight degradation on my 5800x after a single cinebench r23 run at 1.4v with a galahad 360

lost 1 core offset on 3 cores

lesson learned

[cyan raft]

I was hitting 100% gpu usage with a 3700x on pretty much everything

[stiff kraken]

depends on what you're doing with it really

[robust leaf]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VGJGKX1/ What about this ram?

[hollow thorn]

while looking for what the primaries are, I found this in the q&a lol

(it does exist tho)
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-LPX/p/CMK16GX4M2Z3600C14

although that lists it at 1.35v and not 1.45v

[hollow thorn]

yes

i found the product on corsair website

[robust leaf]

So is it a good choice or no?

[grizzled bloom]

Maybe mr "it's c18" was running jedec or the wrong xmp profile

[hollow thorn]

prob jedec

but that listing is annoying

corsair page says 1.35v

[stiff kraken]

i honestly wouldn't recommend paying the extra for b-die if you aren't going to manual oc

[grizzled bloom]

Amazon is terrible for product info in general

[hollow thorn]

but also, the xmp just doesn't show up on fitz's sheet

honestly

rev e is gonna be good enough

:p

[stiff kraken]

i think 3600 14-16-16-36 is an insane bin if it's really 1.35v though

[hollow thorn]

corsair says it is
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE-LPX/p/CMK16GX4M2Z3600C14#tab-tech-specs

[robust leaf]

If I was to go basic 3600 cl16. Would this be perfect? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

[grizzled bloom]

Crucial is good for basic 3600c16, it's like $75-80 for 16gb

[robust leaf]

the g.skill is showing as 2 cents cheaper than the Crucial 16gb 3600c16

at least according to pcpp

[grizzled bloom]

Must be on sale then, go for it. G.skill is a good brand, the most compatible too

[robust leaf]

kk

[grizzled bloom]

The bonus there is with g.skill you might get b-die. With crucial the best you'll get is rev.e which is still good, but not as good.

[robust leaf]

Awesome

@grizzled bloom what's the worst die that the g.skill can come with? Would that die prevent any manual overclocking?

[grizzled bloom]

G.skill rated at 3200 c16 usually get c-die.
You can overclock any set, just some better than others.

[robust leaf]

kk

[devout crow]

Hey I need a little help with my board and I didn't really know where else to post or even ask

I bought a prebuilt so I can slowly upgrade it into a stronger and stronger PC and one of my first things I'm gun a tackle is my Memory. I need some more drives and everything I've looked up on my board (ASRock B550m/ac) says I have 4 sata ports but Everytime I look I only find 2. I've looked on the data sheets ,user manual and even the official website for some good reference pictures that I honestly can't take like they can. Any help would be appreciated (and I'd anyone wants I have the pictures of where is says there is 2 more ports but they honestly don't look like it because on my board that spot is flat

[vast meadow]

If you look up the manual, there's usually a full port layout diagram thing, labelled

[burnt spear]

I bought a laptop off amazon that said it had 2070s max p, it was max q

[burnt spear]

I have the same mobo, it definitely has 4

[grizzled bloom]

Look at the picture though, 2 of the ports aren't soldered in. It was a prebuilt.

[burnt spear]

Really? I bought the mobo alone off reddit so idk

[grizzled bloom]

Well I guess you can't see the picture because build chat got so filled up, hang on

[burnt spear]

Interesting

[naive pendant]

Hey all, quick question since I found conflicting info online: does my MSI B450M PRO-M2 mainboard support Ryzen 4000 and 5000 series? Are there any cons compared to a B550 mainboard?

[versed dust]

Did it give you a warning message on the pc website

[naive pendant]

I did not see one, but read some articles which stated that b450m would not be compatible so I was unsure

[vast meadow]

Worse vrms, just get a vastly better board for the same price/20$ ish , even most of the mid range/budget b550s are pretty good

[naive pendant]

Thanks @vast meadow - i already have the b450m, so upgrading the mainboard would be a little more expensive than the 20$ you propose, I'm assuming. I'm trying to understand whether my board would be ready when I choose to upgrade to Ryzen 4000/5000, currently have a 3500x

[vast meadow]

Well you'd just need to update the bios, but i really wouldn't put a ryzen 4000 or 5000 chip on that board

[naive pendant]

@vast meadow got it, thanks for the feedback!

[vast meadow]

Np

[cyan raft]

Ryzen 4000?

[vast meadow]

Well grey market 4650g 4750g

[hearty surge]

is this a good cooler for a i7-10700KF?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07H22TC1N?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[vast meadow]

No, I'd go with this at least

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/vV7G3C/noctua-nh-u12s-redux-7075-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-redux

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15 but ideally this

[devout crow]

Also oddly enough that's not even a picture of my phisical board that's off the website.

[hearty surge]

thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[devout moth]

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[burnt spear]

What gpu are you running?

[devout crow]

Am I just missing the ports? Could you send me a pic of where yours are so I could look?

[naive pendant]

Is it worth buying the 10600k (180) or the 10400 (164). I’m not gonna be oc

[main pulsar]

if youre trying to run a 144hz+ monitor, the 10600k is the safer option

especially for only 16 more dollars, nothing wrong with slightly better single core perf

[naive pendant]

Ok thanks

[crisp pivot]

Anyone have any experience switching from intel to AMD cpus? I’ve read that it can be done without reinstalling windows, like it should automatically reconfigure itself.

I know that it would be better to reinstall windows, just curious as to the feasibility of it

[main pulsar]

sometimes it works, sometimes it dont

in my experience it usually dont, unless both chips are relatively the same age

[cursive epoch]

^

[hollow thorn]

Where's Forky's screenshot with like 6 different CPUs

[cursive epoch]

But however it should work fine even diff gen most times

[crisp pivot]

so maybe I'll go for it and see what happens, at worst it doesn't and I can get a fresh copy of Windows

~ $500 for MSI B550, R5 5600x, and 16GB 3200 Corsair RAM is a great deal, I'm about to make an impulse buy

[cyan raft]

Going from Intel to AMD CPUs should be fairly painless

For some reason, when going from AMD to Intel, it really wants you to reinstall windows and format the drive windows was on because of some AMD files

Might’ve just been me tho but yeah those files pretty much got me stuck in a boot loop

[limber dragon]

that's end user error

I've used the same drive and os from 9700k -> 2700x -> 3900xt -> 5800x -> 10900kf -> 5800x

across ~8-10 mobos too, and its the mobos that windows reloads the drivers for

[naive pendant]

Hi, just saw this, current mediocre setup is:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X, MSI B450M PRO-M2 mainboard, Geforce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM 3000 MHz

[burnt spear]

are you upgrading cpu only or gpu as well? and if so what gpu?

[naive pendant]

not sure yet, open for options regarding gpu (depending on availability). I'm trying to run New World on as high settings as possible

without going all out on upgrades

@burnt spear

[burnt spear]

whats your budget overall?

[naive pendant]

up to 500€ max, so close to 600USD

[burnt spear]

what about getting a ryzen 3600? for your budget its fine for any gpu youll get (assuming youre gaming)

it will work with your current mobo

[naive pendant]

Okay, I'll need to look into the upside compared to the 3500x in more detail. Yes, i am gaming.

[burnt spear]

oh wait

actually

give me a min

does 3500x have 4 cores or 6 cores?

[naive pendant]

6 at 3.6ghz

[burnt spear]

oh then id just spend the budget on a gpu if it was me

you can get a 3070, 3500x will perform very similar to the 3600

[naive pendant]

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into it. Of the top of my hat it feels like it a big discrepancy between processor and GPU. Would you say thatthe rest of the system can handle the much more powerful GPU?

[burnt spear]

well it depends on your psu

but i run a 3600 with a 3060 ti

3500x is very similar to 3600, so its not that bad

maybe save some money and go for a 3060 ti

but either or

or a 3060 ofc, anything in that ballpark (anything closest to msrp lol)

[naive pendant]

I guess that's the most difficult part 🤣

What PSU are you running?

[burnt spear]

750w evga bq (not a great psu i found out afcter i bought it, but it works)

just check what psu you have

600w would be fine

youd have to see it, no software can tell you what psu you have i dont believe

[naive pendant]

Makes sense, got a 600w from bequiet

[burnt spear]

oh yeah you should be fine then

[naive pendant]

I'll look into it, thanks for the help!

[burnt spear]

id ask for the exact model, but since you already have it doesnt matter too much

np

and it cant hurt to wait for someone elses opinion

mine isnt the end all be all

[naive pendant]

Yep, always good to hear some feedback and then do some more research ;)

[cursive epoch]

3500x lacks smt tho

which means no 12 threads

[burnt spear]

oh yeah it has 8 threads doesnt it?

[cursive epoch]

no

6c/6t

[burnt spear]

oh ew

[cursive epoch]

6c/8t ain't a thing lel

[naive pendant]

Ah, shoot, forgot about that 😩

[burnt spear]

it should still perform similar to 3600 for gaming tho right?

[naive pendant]

@cursive epoch would you say upgrading to a higher-end GPU would only make sense with a better processor?

[burnt spear]

eh, even with the less threads i think youd get more of your moneys worth going the gpu route

[cursive epoch]

well

it gets beaten by 3300x

kek

i suggest upgrade cpu and gpu

6c/6t is literally same if not worse performance than 4c/8t in most cases

and 3300x beats it cause it has single ccx design

while 3500x has two

[burnt spear]

but what should they upgrade cpu to?

3600 wont be much of a jump

what, 10%?

[cursive epoch]

5600x

but then again that would eat into the gpu budget real quick

[burnt spear]

pato said they wouldnt run a 5600x on that mobo

[naive pendant]

Yep, that's what I thought ;)

It's a b450m

[cursive epoch]

vrms looks weak

[burnt spear]

yeah thats what pato said

[cursive epoch]

if he doesn't want cpu bottleneck

he will need nicer mobo and cpu lel

i suppose save up some moneys

[burnt spear]

theyd get the biggest performance boost out of upgrading gpu tho

[cursive epoch]

but then cpu bottleneck will hit

[naive pendant]

Are there any risks upgrading GPU now while running into a CPU bottleneck and then upgrading Mobo + CPU later?

[cursive epoch]

it won't be game breaking bottleneck

[burnt spear]

well witht he budget and the gpu situation theres going to be some type of bottleneck

[cursive epoch]

so just upgrade gpu first

cpu can wait

i wouldn't say 3070 is within the budget

considering current prices

[burnt spear]

well theyre in europe

so if were talking about inflated prices 3060 is within budget lol

lhr 3060 ti not so much

even 3060 would be a stretch if its as bad as it was

[cursive epoch]

europe still has bad prices

[burnt spear]

yes i know

[naive pendant]

Thanks a lot both of you for the help and the healthy discussion. I'll look into prices for all relevant components and check in here before pulling the trigger 😉

[burnt spear]

sounds good, gl with finding a gpu

[cyan raft]

Europe always had bad prices

[vast meadow]

They usually just seem bad cuz we include tax lol

[cursive epoch]

^

my country also includes tax

prices are generally close to us here tbh

but tax included and slight markup

5600g atm is 300 in thailand tho, yikes

[cyan raft]

Ehh I’ve been to Poland like 2 months ago and a 5600x was about $5-600 usd

An 11900K was about 1k

[vast meadow]

Okay well that might be poland being wack

[cyan raft]

It was the same in Germany also

Might just be that part of Europe

[vast meadow]

Nope?

@cyan raft https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box

[vast meadow]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#k=33,39&sort=-price&page=1 everything but 3950x and 3900x are normal prices

Compared to us*

[cursive epoch]

bots

[humble wasp]

hello is asrock H510M-ITX/ac

can run for i5 more than 2666mhz?

[cursive epoch]

Nope, needs B560

H510 won't allow that

[humble wasp]

ok

how about

z590-itx/ax

[cursive epoch]

nah

not needed

unless you wanna oc, if the i5 is a k

[humble wasp]

ok

so i go for b560

B560M-ITX/ac?

[cursive epoch]

yeah

[humble wasp]

but it showing will not this

run more than 2666

(i5/i3), Pentium® and Celeron® support DDR4 2666 natively.

[cursive epoch]

it'll do above 2666 with no problem

xmp is supported

[vernal cosmos]

motherboard support>>>>cpu support

[cursive epoch]

^

Intel likes to list the speed they tested

[humble wasp]

all they write same things

[cursive epoch]

Mobo should allow to push it

Don't worry

The chipset allows it

[humble wasp]

mmmm

why the before ones not ?

[cursive epoch]

wdym?

H510?

[humble wasp]

yes

[cursive epoch]

Yeah the chipset doesn't allow that

Intel designed it that way

[humble wasp]

ok

so i take any b560

it will be ok ?

[cursive epoch]

yeup

should be okay

[humble wasp]

mm

ok

thank u

[vast meadow]

Or h570

[cursive epoch]

h570 breh tho

spensiv, fancy h

[vast meadow]

Yeah in niche cases like itx it's handy sometimes tho

[cobalt iron]

im buying a new motherboard and I can't understand if my ram will work with it. I have "DDR4 2133" ram and the motherboard says "10th Gen Intel Core i7 / i9 processors support 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz." If i want to use a 10th Gen Intel Core i5, does this mean my DDR4 RAM is too slow at 2133?

[devout moth]

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[vast meadow]

2133 will work but man is it slow

[lapis narwhal]

Can someone dm me regarding my cpu/gpu combo, seem to be getting bottleneck but according to forums ive read i should be fine 🙃

[vast meadow]

Can you put your specs into https://pcpartpicker.com/list and send the list here

[lapis narwhal]

Yeah 2 minutes :)

[vast meadow]

Coolio

[lapis narwhal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4xLMz7

Majority of it was a prebuild, APU, 8gb of the ram (brought identical), mobo, fans (hdd but havent included them)
I upgraded the gpu, ram, ssd, psu

Like when im gaming every now and then (more often atm for some reason) my cpu spikes to 100% from around 80% whilst my gpu sits at around 70-80, causing me major frame drops (mainly in warzone) all temps are good (cpu sits at around 50° whilst gaming, i turn fans onto 100% when gaming, gpu i believe is around the same), im thinking a ram upgrade maybe needed aswell due to it being budget sticks. But i dont want to go and buy a cpu if i dont have too, ive never installed one and dont want to paste it wrong etc

I dont mind doing it but just scares me😂

[fossil imp]

That means that your CPU is bottlenecked

[hot chasm]

Warzone is heavy in CPU usage

[lapis narwhal]

@fossil imp i did think so just online says theyre a 97% compatible pair 😔
3600x it is then when i have the funds

[burnt spear]

Don't get 3600x

There's barely any difference from 3600

And its 50$ more

[fossil imp]

Shoot for a 5600x

[burnt spear]

I'd look for a 3600 below msrp though, 200$ is more than it's worth compared to other cpus currently

5600x is probably your best bet, I've seen them a lot on the used market around 250 or below

[lapis narwhal]

Okay guys, thankyou :)

[devout moth]

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[vast meadow]

I'd say your ram is the largest problem

[vast meadow]

Need a motherboard replacement too if going 5600x btw

[lapis narwhal]

@vast meadow i have a msi b450 PRO-MAX (says compatible with 2-3000 series but i believe with a bios flash its compatible) and a new case im gonna be using, was going to build a new pc in the new year from scratch as a learning curve, but may be doing it sooner than i thought😂

Also what ram do you suggest, as cheap as possible ideally

[grizzled bloom]

B450 officially supports 5000 series but power delivery is a little iffy

[vast meadow]

I would heavily advise not putting a 5600x on that board

That's like a 60$ board iirc

[grizzled bloom]

$70 board

[vast meadow]

I'd try upgrading your ram to something completely different

[lapis narwhal]

I paid £225 for it from a store are you joking 😐

[vast meadow]

What ;-;

Can you return it?

[lapis narwhal]

Yeah i got robbed apparently😂😂😂

[vast meadow]

That's awful

[grizzled bloom]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450m-pro-m2-max/p/N82E16813144271

[lapis narwhal]

No ive had it for like 6 months lmao

[vast meadow]

Yikes

[vast meadow]

You sure it's this board ?

Cuz if you got the name diff mb it's not so bad?

[grizzled bloom]

It's either M or A, didn't specify which

[lapis narwhal]

It doesnt look like that

[vast meadow]

Meant hopefully loony said the wrong board

[grizzled bloom]

The A is $90

[lapis narwhal]

Ill check tomorrow... i hope so too😂

[rocky beacon]

Could you send a picture of it?

[grizzled bloom]

This one? https://www.newegg.com/msi-b450-a-pro-max/p/N82E16813144268

[lapis narwhal]

I dont have it to hand atm, its at my work so the wife doesnt know😐😂 err im sure it didnt have the dvi port on it though

The board itself looks the same but the ports look different

[grizzled bloom]

Perhaps this one then? https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac/p/13-144-188

Because if it's that one it's good, no need to upgrade for 5600X at least

[lapis narwhal]

Just looked on the website i got it from but its not showing up, the one that it looks like from memory is x570 gaming plus - which is now on sale for £145

Ill have a look tomorrow and update you, but im sure it was the b450 pro max

[grizzled bloom]

The problem is there's 6 different boards with that in their name

[vast meadow]

I sure hope its that one if they paid 225

[lapis narwhal]

Yeah so do i @vast meadow
Ill update you all in the morning!
Is that board worth running a 5600? Im way to out of my depth, ive spent hours researchinf and apparently wasted my time😂

[rocky beacon]

THat board aint worth that much at all though

B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC used to sell for $130

[vast meadow]

Better than a 60/90$ board

[rocky beacon]

Oh for sure, but very overpriced

[vast meadow]

Hopefully you're able to find it

[lapis narwhal]

I know exactly where it is, still in its box next to the new case lol

[vast meadow]

Ehh it depends which board it actually ends up being lol

You've left a part in it's box for 6 months

[lapis narwhal]

If its the x570 Gaming Plus is it worth it

@vast meadow yeah the wife fell pregnant so put it on hold for funds lol

[vast meadow]

Meh, b550 will be better

[vast meadow]

Ahh fair enough

But i would recommend returning the item, incase youre unlucky and it's dead on arrival

[grizzled bloom]

This is the one you're thinking of, it's different

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mcjNnQ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-max-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-max-wifi

[vast meadow]

In the future that is

[rocky beacon]

No I am thinking of the Gaming Pro Carbon AC

Used on ebay they are about $100

[lapis narwhal]

I cant believe how many mobos there are with the same name 😐

[vast meadow]

Yeah bit confusing

[grizzled bloom]

No wait you're right, I looked at the 2 year price history and it dropped as low as $130 on black friday

[rocky beacon]

Yeah I bought one for $130 most likely around then

Sold it at some point

[grizzled bloom]

Discontinued so that's probably why new is so expensive

[grave star]

anyone know of a good mobo to pair with an i7 11700 and a 3060

[elder hearth]

does the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming II support wifi 6

[rocky beacon]

It does if you use a WiFi 6 card

It comes without WiFi

[elder hearth]

so i can use wifi 6 cool

[lapis narwhal]

Just managed to find my order reciept X570 -A Pro and was £210

Just done a price check online and 6months later its at around £150, still feel like ive been scammed😂

Sorry for the confusion everyone😂

[grizzled bloom]

Entirely possible that you overpaid. A board actually worth £210 is one of the better overclocking boards.

[lapis narwhal]

But atleast its not the 150odd that i thought id overpaid lol

[grizzled bloom]

It'll still do for a 5600X, since it's a 65W processor

[lapis narwhal]

Right okay, thats that sorted then :)

Will have a look on new ram aswell, so will very likely be back in touch soon!

You guys are the MvP's 🤙

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't get an 11700, but z590, I'd recommend just getting a 10700 or a 5800x

[vast meadow]

I'd just grab some ballistix 3600mhz usually the cheapest option anyway

[grave star]

so a z590 for an 11700?

cuz i already have the 117--

[vast meadow]

Yes

Ahh

[grave star]

ccool; tjanks

[vast meadow]

Just avoid asrock

[grave star]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-ripjaws-x-series-z590-a-pro/p/N82E16813144392?item=N82E16813144392&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+intel-_-N82E16813144392&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU0YeX2_X5mMg1aT1MMFJyALMxq5nWrIudjeBjFh9uxsZsGMfBT-xjsaAtVzEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[vast meadow]

I'd spend a few extra and get the gigabyte UD ac

[hollow thorn]

Z590-a pro isn't bad, it's okay, but ud ac is nice for having wifi for the price

[vast meadow]

Pretty good vrms too

[grave star]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145265?item=N82E16813145265&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+intel-_-N82E16813145265&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU1GaiRY3SwN4tTpl1faDIU3Jb0GQL86bKDSPbAjIvfRKrsceacw8x4aAsjYEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

this one?

[vast meadow]

Ye

[devout moth]

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[hoary echo]

should i buy another 8gb of system ram?

[dim cloak]

How much ram you currently have and what cpu do you have?

[hoary echo]

8gb and an i5 10300h

[cursive epoch]

i suggest get moar

[hoary echo]

it is my gaming machine if that makes any difference

[cursive epoch]

you'd get better gaming experience instantly in some games

or almost all

[dim cloak]

Isnt the 10300h a laptop cpu

[cursive epoch]

yeah

it's a laptop

[hoary echo]

yes

[dim cloak]

So a so-dimm ram rip

[cursive epoch]

but adding more ram will help regardless

im assuming it's running single channel

[dim cloak]

Yeah i always found that to be a solution to my problems

Just ram more ram

[cursive epoch]

adding more not only gives it extra room, it boosts perf cause of dual channel

[hoary echo]

yea, and it means i can have more than one chrome tab open 🤯

[dim cloak]

Honestly i dont use chrome but sure what ever opens your tabs

[hoary echo]

do you have any idea of how much it would increase performance by?

[cursive epoch]

hmn

i think at least 10%

[dim cloak]

A significant amount hard to be sure tho

[cursive epoch]

or eliminate stutters

[dim cloak]

Depends on what you run

[cursive epoch]

it'll for sure improve your experience

and ^

[dim cloak]

Will surely help the cpu as well in longer run afaik

[cursive epoch]

hopping to dual channel alone will give you better fps in 0.1 and 1% lows

[hoary echo]

do you mean hardware?

[cursive epoch]

the part that matters

it'll feel smoother

might not increase max fps but yeah

smoother overall

[hoary echo]

i mean atm games can only use about 4gb because system uses 4gb idle

[dim cloak]

More of programs and games

[cursive epoch]

yeah 4 gigs is

small lel

[hoary echo]

oh yes definitely less lag when i have work and games open

i have allocated 17gb of page files as a substitute :/

and was wondering if there was any way i could limit chrome to page files?

[cursive epoch]

nope

page file is very slow so it won't allow that

[hoary echo]

oh :(

not even chrome?

[dim cloak]

Nope

[hoary echo]

that's sad

discord moment :(

[dim cloak]

Discord uses a good amount of cpu and memory thats average

[hoary echo]

it is using like 2% cpu

and then windows defender using 300 mb ram

[dim cloak]

Yeah 8gb is enough for light work loads and super light low setting gaming but do increase your ram

[hoary echo]

i managed to get some games running well, but i think that's because my gpu has more available ram then my actual computer

[tacit imp]

i dont use discord and whatsapp apps. i ust use it on web browser. does it use less memory?

[tacit imp]

lucky, u have 8gb

[hoary echo]

i mean decently expensive laptop

[dim cloak]

If you need more ram i would recommend getting these and removing your current ram https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820236664

[hoary echo]

but still the cheapest one with the gpu

[tacit imp]

computer is better than laptop bc it is better for cooling

[hoary echo]

$160, yikes

[dim cloak]

That can vary on many levels

[dim cloak]

Whats your currency?

[hoary echo]

aud

[dim cloak]

Ohh thats why

Its aud

[hoary echo]

yes

[dim cloak]

Well for the best chance you can find cheaper look for (2x8gb) 2933mhz SO-DIMM memory kits (this is the highest recommended memory modules for your current cpu)

[hoary echo]

would 2400mhz kill performance or damage the computer?

[dim cloak]

It would be a little slower but not tooo noticeable to some people

But at least make sure its a SO-DIMM memory module so it will fit in your pc and that its ddr4

[hoary echo]

ok

would 2666 be better than 2400?

[dim cloak]

Yes

Higher mhz and lower cl the better but dont exceed 2933mhz

[hoary echo]

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/kingston-hyperx-impact-16gb-2x-8gb-ddr4-3200mhz-notebook-memory-ac38664

oh wait that's 3200

but cheaper than 2400 and 2666

[dim cloak]

You can probably run them at a lower clock speed of 2933mhz

[hoary echo]

that would be epic

[dim cloak]

You can actually

[hoary echo]

epic, sounds like a buy

when i have more than $3

[dim cloak]

Yeah but your making progress rather than not looking to get upgrades for it

[rugged crow]

i wud say u don;t buy

unless u do tons of multitasking

if not

use this software called mem reduct

from henry++ freeware(no paid feeatures) app

& i sit here running a 2 core 2 thread cpu with minecraft discord and youtube music open.. runs fine lmao

anyone wants help running thier low end pc which is lagging dm me

[hollow thorn]

Rammap also useful

[hoary jackal]

is this good ram for 35€

I originally wanted to get another set but the guy already sold it

[hollow thorn]

don't know local market so

[hoary jackal]

hyper x is good tho

isn't it?

[hollow thorn]

meh

check freq and check compatibility rq tho

[hoary jackal]

lets leave the price out

are they good?

the pin location should fit

[grizzled bloom]

1600 c9
Not very good but not horrible sticks

[hoary jackal]

mine probably aren't better

I'm gonna get this ram sticks and an SSD, next months a monitor and that will be it until new PC

[cursive epoch]

35 seems reasonable

it's not the us so

[hoary jackal]

idk if my MB will support it

you think it has a problem?

[grizzled bloom]

What board and what processor

[hoary jackal]

i7 2600

Fujitsu D2990-A2 is my MB

[grizzled bloom]

From what I see you can use 1600 speed memory on there fine. The problem might be the voltage, I don't think it can do 1.5v so it'll probably be limited. Check in your bios for a setting that's called something like xmp, if it has that it'll work.

Found the original manual, the whole 2 pages of it lol. It says 1.5v, should be good there even if the official spec goes up to 1333.

[shrewd stirrup]

Looking for Intel based mobo with tpm 2.0 installed

[grizzled bloom]

Anything with 8000 series or newer cpu support will have tpm

2.0 is unnecessary for the vast majority of things, windows 11 included

[hoary jackal]

16gb better than 8 so yea

[naive pendant]

OK I have a question I’m buying a motherboard that has a USB 3.2 GEN one support and the case has USB 3.1 GEN to support when I put my parts in the PC part picker give me the conflict error saying that I need an adapter or I need to buy a new freaking part is there an adapter And does Newegg have it

[grizzled bloom]

What board and what case

[naive pendant]

Give me a second

[grizzled bloom]

You probably don't need an adapter unless the case has a usb c port, but the motherboard doesn't

[naive pendant]

Check this out on @Newegg: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144261?Item=N82E16813144261&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-144-261-_-09012021

Check this out on @Newegg: NZXT H510 - Compact ATX Mid-Tower PC Gaming Case - Front I/O USB Type-C Port - Tempered Glass Side Panel - Cable Management System - Water-Cooling Ready - Steel Construction - Black, CA-H510B-B1

[hoary jackal]

might consider using a LAN cable if possible

[naive pendant]

By the way I’m doing this on my phone so sorry for all the extra stuff

[grizzled bloom]

Do yourself a favor and don't get H510. The glass is too close to the fans so the parts don't get any air and choke.

[naive pendant]

OK then what do you suggest something it would give me the correct support for the motherboard as far as USB and still be around the price of the 510

[grizzled bloom]

Do you need the front usb c port for a VR headset or something?

[naive pendant]

Yeah

[grizzled bloom]

Ok that motherboard doesn't have the header for usb c, I can recommend a couple boards and cases that will be compatible if you want. An adapter will be like $15-20, might as well just get a board that works unless you already have that one.

[naive pendant]

Please I’d love to hear your recommendations

[grizzled bloom]

Ok just a minute, I'll get a few option together

[naive pendant]

If we can keep it around the same price it would be great

[grizzled bloom]

So about $300 all together?

Can do

This case https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08C7BGV3D
With one of these boards:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08KGVH7YC
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144324

[naive pendant]

Sweet thank you very much

[grizzled bloom]

Happy to help

[wide dome]

could anyone help me verify if a particular botherboard would be compatible with a CPU that i have?

i have an old 9th gen i7 processor and want to see if this motherboard would be compatible with it

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977

[rocky beacon]

No, you would need a Z390 motherboard

[bright turret]

I need help on these

[grizzled bloom]

If you enabled TPM before you installed Windows hit N, otherwise hit Y

Default is off so unless you specifically turned it on, it's probably off

[bright turret]

I actually do not know

@grizzled bloom first time encountering this

Using a x570 Tuf wifi Mobo and was using a 3700x transitioned to 5900x

[hollow flower]

hey everyone, need a little help here? long story short, I ave a pre built. MSI aegis R with an RTX 3070, MSI MAG b460 mortar mother board. it came with 2x8gb 3000 ram sticks. I turned on the XMP in my BIOS with not much gain it seems. Im looking at getting perhaps 2x16gb ram with either 3200 or 3600Mhz. is ther anything I can try before making the jump to changing up the RAM? and to make that jump to new ram. can anyone maybe point me in the right direction? what would be better for the system more or less?

[cyan raft]

weird, i just swappd my 3700x for a 5900x and didnt have that even tho i had TPM enabled

[rocky beacon]

I would assume that would only show up if you actually used your TPM?

[cyan raft]

Im dailying Win 11 so i would assume i was

[rocky beacon]

That would not save anything to it unless you were using Bitlocker or anything I would think?

Could depend on the motherboard I guess

[cyan raft]

most likely

[bright turret]

I got passed it finally, i press N to keep the default since i wasn't sure if i had it on or not.

The xmp profile was preventing it to finish. Had to revert it back

@cyan raft how do i use or update to win 11?

[grizzled bloom]

It's in the beta channel, you have to subscribe to the insider builds

[faint stream]

Do anyone even use the asus rog rampage mobos anymore?

[bright turret]

Aight thx

[bright turret]

hey whats your idle temp on the 5900x? mine is 72 for some reason and just keep going 87c after i enabled the TMP thing, at first when i press N earlier it was alright and idle teep was 53-57c

any app i open it just goes from 72c-87c

[hoary echo]

is mix and matching ram bad?

[grizzled bloom]

Typically yes. Mixing memory dies can make it fail to boot. Even the same model of memory from a different package can have a different die.

[cyan raft]

Mine is about 40C, what’s your cooler?

[bright turret]

deepcool 240ex

[cyan raft]

Is the thermal paste new?

And is the pump running?

[bright turret]

yes, i just re applied a mx-4 and spread it

[bright turret]

I click N earlier and the temp was 40-50c and was able to boot up, but i had to xmp my ram cause it was default

[cyan raft]

Where are you checking temps?

[grizzled bloom]

You'll probably want to clear cmos and possibly reset tpm in bios

[bright turret]

and that screen pop again so i press Y instead, and my ram xmp wont save to 3200 it just keeps error to 2133

[bright turret]

Ryzen Master app

[grizzled bloom]

If you have RM open it's not really idle

Still shouldn't be that high though

[bright turret]

Well i used this earlier and saw it was 40-50c

so my problem now are temp and ram frequency not saving.

[cyan raft]

Use HWInfo64

But yeah it shouldn’t be that high even in ryzen master

[bright turret]

This is also what I get when trying to use the xmp profile

[grizzled bloom]

^

[brazen peak]

2133

[bright turret]

yep the cmos fix the ram issue

[grizzled bloom]

Good. It's always smart to clear cmos when you change hardware anyway.

[bright turret]

only problem now is the temp

its stable when i play games for some reason

but when im on a browser is when it goes junction 80c

[grizzled bloom]

I don't think your cooler is good enough for a 5900X to start with, and you might also try remounting the block.

[bright turret]

i dont mind it but the fan chass_1 goes hella loud

[bright turret]

Deepcool castle240ex white is not enough?

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah it's actually kinda bad

Worse than the H100i pro, which is also not a good one for this

[bright turret]

any recommendation

[grizzled bloom]

Liquid Freezer II (best overall), EK-AIO (best rgb), Lian Li Galahad (best white)

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu-cooler/#W=10240,10280,10360&m=77,379,62&sort=price

I wouldn't even do a 240mm with a 5900X tbh, 280 minimum

[bright turret]

alright guess im going for 360 galahad

since i plan on buying the fans they had

[steel marsh]

. _ . what is that

my god what am i looking at

[dense frost]

fakey fake

[hoary jackal]

@grizzled bloom sorry to disturb but would this RAM fit too? MB is Fujitsu D2990-A2

[steel marsh]

that doesnt seem like a good ram tbh

1600MHZ?

also ddr3 .-. is that what ur mobo supports

[hoary jackal]

my MB is ddr3

I wanna updgrade from 8gb to 15gb

[steel marsh]

why not 16 .-.

[hoary jackal]

man

5 is too close to the 6

[steel marsh]

ohhh

it was a typo

[hoary jackal]

duh

[steel marsh]

i see sorry

what is your budget

[hoary jackal]

wanted to get those but idk

they're 30-40€

[steel marsh]

so thats your budget?

[hoary jackal]

price doesn't matter

I just want to know if they're good and if they fit

they're used

[steel marsh]

if your mobo supports ddr3 they fit

[hoary jackal]

my mobo is ddr3

[steel marsh]

then it fits

now to are they good

what the speed?

[hoary jackal]

I think the same, 1333 or 1600

but i only have 8

the ram and an SSD

[steel marsh]

thats slow

[hoary jackal]

i know

thats about the max for ddr3

[steel marsh]

um no

there is 2600

.-.

[hoary jackal]

my mb supports about 1333

[steel marsh]

can you give me your motherboard brand and model

[hoary jackal]

.

[steel marsh]

well this motherboard is pretty weak tbh

. _ .

what do you use your pc for?

[hoary jackal]

gamig

i7 2600 and 1050ti

is good

[steel marsh]

not the best but if it works for you thats good

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231486?Item=N82E16820231486&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-EgPhjMCAiF8kZfmtqh5JJQ

@hoary jackal maybe check this out

[devout moth]

Spira23#6911 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Spira23#6911 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[hoary jackal]

brand new

my gpu didn't cost that much

114€

[steel marsh]

used?

[steel marsh]

yeah

used ones cost the same on ebay

if not more expensive

[hoary jackal]

the ones I saw were way less

[steel marsh]

well if you know the condition is good

then go for the used one

some people overclock ram sticks to the point the card gets fried

so be careful when you buy it

[hoary jackal]

yes

[north tendon]

I am looking for a 8GB RAM memory module for my HP 15 (15-bw011dx) laptop that is compatible with its current Samsung brand RAM module (4GB R1x16 PC4 2400t SCO-11). I tried a Vengence brand RAM from newegg (CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 260-Pin DDR4 SO-DIMM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Notebook Memory Model CMSX16GX4M2A2400C16). It was the correct form factor for the RAM slot but did not work.

Can anyone help guide me to the RAM memory with compatible specifications to the Samsung brand?

[cyan raft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184999021157

This should work

@north tendon

[north tendon]

I agree that should work, as it is exactly the sme 4GB module I presently have. I am looking for an 8GB module tho.

[vast meadow]

https://www.newegg.com/tools/memory-finder I'd try this

[devout moth]

Nibblex#0748 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Nibblex#0748 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[hoary echo]

Itx threadripper 😈

[steel marsh]

dont tell me you gonna use it for gaming

[hoary echo]

Nah, i use a laptop

A threadripper would mean i need to sell my left kidney

[north tendon]

Thanks for that tip!! Worthwhile.

@vast meadow ☝🏻

[vast meadow]

Np

[north tendon]

Turns out my original Vengeance RAM memory purchase from Newegg worked fine in my HP 15-bw011dx laptop. Only seemed to work by installing 8GB module into machine with original Samsung 4GB module in primary slot. Thereafter, I was able to replace the original Samsung module with the second Vengeance 8GB module after cycling on the lap top a few times. Full 16GB RAM shows on the machine. My bad. Lol

@vast meadow. Lol

Doesn’t log your full handle.

[vast meadow]

ohh nice :)

[north tendon]

Just figured it out this late afternoon. I originally tried to replace the original Samsung 4GB module in its lone slot with the 2 new Vengeance 8GB modules in both slots. The machine just choked upon turn on. Lol I’m not sure if the machine needed some sort of “retraining,” but it never accepted the new RAM modules as a direct replacement. Weird.

[vast meadow]

Sometimes new ram training can take a few minutes yes

[mild jackal]

Only when it's 256GB or something lol

[vast meadow]

well the few minutes was more of an expression but ye

[tawny mica]

Hi there, I recently bought a motherboard from Newegg and it doesn't work and the support agent told me I could come in here for some help, is there anybody who could maybe help me

[hollow thorn]

What exact mobo and what is the rest of the system?

[tawny mica]

I bought an Asus Z490-p from them and when i turn it on the board lights up but the cpu fan doesnt spin and it doesnt display anything and i dont know what to do

[hollow thorn]

Did it work before getting the z490-p mobo?

[tawny mica]

well i bought everything new for my first gaming computer build and when i plugged it in it doesnt turn on and i triple checked all the connections and everything

[hollow thorn]

To start off, can you give me a pcpp list of everything if you have it?

[tawny mica]

i have a 1200w power supply, 8gb of ram, an intel celeron lga 1200 cpu, and thats about it

[hollow thorn]

Well, just one stick of ram?

[vast meadow]

Just 8gb ram on a z board?

[tawny mica]

yep it cost a lot for me to build this over the summer

[vast meadow]

Uhh

That will not be good for performance but okay

Wait celeron??

;-;

[hollow thorn]

EPS12v is plugged in, right?

[tawny mica]

whats that

[vast meadow]

Cpu power into motherboard

[hollow thorn]

top left of your motherboard

[misty pagoda]

1200watt??????

[tawny mica]

i dont have a lot of money and my friends give me new stuff they dont need

[misty pagoda]

you lucky lol

[tawny mica]

i have the 8 pins plugged in

the board lights up but when i turn it on the cpu fan doesnt do anything and it doesnt turn on or display anything

[hollow thorn]

you checked that 24pin is completely plugged in right? It's usually a pain to get all the way down

also, any storage devices..?

[tawny mica]

yep its fully in

i have a 250gb ssd