cpus-mobo-and-memory

[cursive epoch]

killin cpu be crankin voltage to 2v

magic smoke go poof

[devout moth]

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[naive pendant]

Do we think that alder lake cpus will come with adapters for existing AIOs? Or will i have to wait for those to come separately

[vast meadow]

Depends on the company that made the aio tbh, some will some wont most likely

[naive pendant]

In looking at the Arctic liquid freezer 360. Just wondering if i will have replace the aio

[cursive epoch]

if it's possible

they'll send the stuff to you

arctic does that stuff afain

so is noctua

not sure ek, but i believe they do too

[naive pendant]

So do i like call them or

[vast meadow]

I'd bet on arctic sending them out for free on request or something but you can always ask customer support for Arctic ye

[cursive epoch]

^

[naive pendant]

Thx

[devout moth]

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[molten maple]

Can anyone provide info that gives a difference between 3rd and 5th gen Ryzen 5 processors? Is the 5th gen worth getting over the 3rd gen? Thanks! 🙂

[limber dragon]

5000 series has better clocks, ipc and memory controller

[molten maple]

I am comparing this to this:
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600xt-ryzen-5-3rd-gen/p/N82E16819113653

vs

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/p/N82E16819113666

Not sure if there's a REAL difference, between the generational gap

[limber dragon]

5600x is hands down better at everything

[molten maple]

tight, kind of what i thought.i just wanted to see what the deal was between the two

[wind field]

Hey what do yall think of this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074RC5BWV?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[limber dragon]

acrylic scratches very easily, would be my only concern

[wind field]

Ok and lol wrong link

I was going to ask about the asus b550 gamling plus wifi

[limber dragon]

its fine

should handle up to a 5900x/3950x without issue

[naive pendant]

guys is 16x2 or 8x4 better

[limber dragon]

depends on the device, cpu and motherboard its on

[naive pendant]

• AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
• Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

[limber dragon]

8x gen 4 then

unless its on something like a gen2 gpu

[naive pendant]

gpu is 3060

is 3060 gen 3?

[limber dragon]

gen 4

[devout moth]

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[devout moth]

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[naive pendant]

Hi guys! Anyone knows if this product is Single or Dual Rank? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-260-pin-ddr4-so-dimm/p/N82E16820374024

I asked costumer service and they directed me here 🙂

[grizzled bloom]

There's 2 different people on Amazon that say dual rank, but who knows if they know what they're talking about. SR/DR isn't usually a spec that is commonly stated.

[limber dragon]

No way to tell without checking the physical stick

[naive pendant]

Yup, I have seen, but the only way would be having the stick itself. I was hoping maybe some of the owners sees this and can check in software. I asked GSkill directly and they told me it is batch dependent, not product number dependent, so it is a bit of a lottery :S

[grizzled bloom]

Exactly. It's basically a lottery. If you buy one and it's not dual rank you can always return it.

I wouldn't worry that much about it personally, unless you really need every drop of performance. In that case I wouldn't be getting 1.2v memory.

[naive pendant]

Also true hehe I wonder if dual/single rank really makes much of a difference if timings are better.

Anyone with a bit of experience on this? We always tend to minmax everything in tech and if it is 1-2% it does not really matter to me, but I am unfamiliar with the topic.

(there are RAM sticks on Amazon for 30USD more that are Dual Rank, do not know if it is worth to pay more for them - proabably not for a laptop, I would say)

[grizzled bloom]

Not really worth it for DR on a laptop for sure. As long as you have 2 sticks you'll get dual channel, which is definitely worth it.
If you want more performance out of your memory you'd be better off getting a kit that does 1.35v with much tighter timings, assuming you have a laptop that can run XMP. If your laptop doesn't do XMP then you probably don't even have a gaming laptop so no practical difference.

Dual rank is one of those things that really matters most to extreme overclockers

[naive pendant]

Hm, so I have a custom laptop with a RTX3080 100W and Intel i7-10750H (not really the best pairing), but it was a super nice price when I got it, before the silicon shortages and all.

Is the XMP for all Intel laptops or is it a BIOS thing? (I did not see it in BIOS)

Or can it be done in software?

[devout moth]

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[grizzled bloom]

It's a bios thing. If the motherboard supports voltage above 1.2v it would have XMP.

It's not always where you'd think, though. It can be called different things too, like A-XMP or DOCP.

[naive pendant]

Thank you!

Looking at prices for 1.35V it is probably not worth for me. It is a six core older intel after all.

You have all been very helpful, thanks! 🙂

[grizzled bloom]

"Older" being last generation, not really that old lol.
Happy to help

[dim cloak]

So when i use my 3200mhz ram would i have to enable XMP to achieve such speeds and if so what profile would be best suited to setup during bios

[vast meadow]

Yep xmp

[dim cloak]

Kinda figured cause my build rn has 2666mhz but no running dual channel but three sticks only because i need extra ram to help with some blender and unity work

But the sticks run at 2133mhz

[vast meadow]

That is not gonna be fun, 1 because 3 sticks is kinda ehh and 1 2133mhz is so slow

[dim cloak]

Yeah i figured but ill set it up with xmp and only 16gb ram for friend later before shipping it out

[grizzled bloom]

When you have 3 sticks only 2 are actually running in dual channel mode, the third is single channel

(Exceptions exist, like processors that support 3+ channels)

[dim cloak]

Ik mine doesnt

[vast meadow]

It's very unlikely it doesn't

[grizzled bloom]

3+ channels are usually limited to server hardware like Xeon and Threadripper processors

[latent mist]

how do you know if XMP was succesfully enable?

[grizzled bloom]

You can check the timings, if your'e on AMD you can look at zentimings

[latent mist]

i am on intel

[grizzled bloom]

You can just look at CPU-Z then

Less detailed but it'll be good enough

Memory tab will tell you current speed and main timings

[latent mist]

i think that's bad?

[limber dragon]

its at 3200 16-18-18-36, guessing that's your xmp rating

[grizzled bloom]

Probably yeah

[latent mist]

so it's good xd?

[limber dragon]

yup

[latent mist]

it is 3200hz

thanks xd

[grizzled bloom]

It's enabled at least, 3200 isn't bad on Intel

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[vast meadow]

@naive pendant

[naive pendant]

Patos response every time lol

[vast meadow]

The truth

[naive pendant]

So in this case it would be… asrock b560m hdv

what does HDV mean?

or msi b560m pro

same price

[vast meadow]

Msi if same price

[naive pendant]

okay

thank you pato

[vast meadow]

Welc

[devout moth]

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[devout moth]

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[graceful prism]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-5-15-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-5800h-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-ti-8gb-memory-512gb-ssd-phantom-blue/6455136.p?skuId=6455136 last try is this a good laptop for minor gaming 3d modeling and general work station stuff for $945.00

[south sphinx]

@lime quartz

[lime quartz]

ye??/

[south sphinx]

nvm someone got it

it was a bot

[burnt spear]

How bout this one? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gf65-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-rtx3060-512gb-ssd-8gb-memory-black/6456144.p?skuId=6456144

Tho the ram is a bit limiting

[graceful prism]

cani add onto it

[burnt spear]

I'm not sure

Some laptops yes others no

[graceful prism]

seems good only thing i dont like no nuk mpad

num pad

[burnt spear]

Ah

One sec

[burnt spear]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-dash-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-11th-gen-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-512gb-ssd-eclipse-grey-eclipse-grey/6448933.p?skuId=6448933

If you're fine with open box

[graceful prism]

looks pretty tasty

i dont mind an open box

are the specs that much better?

than the legion

@burnt spearalso thanks for helping

[burnt spear]

Oh sorry im not on pc so I didn't see this, np

[graceful prism]

youre good

[burnt spear]

Im not sure on the performance difference from this 3060 to the 3050 ti bc im not sure where it says the wattage of the 3060

Which is how you tell the performance difference

But it has more ram, and its just overall better made, cpu i think is a little bit better too

[graceful prism]

good to know

i think im gona go with that

[fossil imp]

Which one are you going with, @graceful prism ?

[graceful prism]

tuf dash

what do you think?

[fossil imp]

I like it and its got that open box price so you save quite a bit.

What are you going to use it for?

[graceful prism]

some gaming when im on the road 3d printing stuff at the office and general use

i just dont want to get something that cant do most

[fossil imp]

It'll do all of that for you

[graceful prism]

im looking to get into robotic welders in the next 5ish years would it do ok running whatever code it needs

i have no idea how intensive it is

[burnt spear]

I'm unsure on the battery life on it

And cooling

But you can always get a cooling pad

[fossil imp]

Ooo, nice. Based on the specs, you should be good

[graceful prism]

mostly gonna be plugged not under heavy load

[burnt spear]

And it'll last atleast 2hours at that price point

[graceful prism]

good deal

[fossil imp]

Definitely get one. I have a gaming laptop as well and it does get quite hot while underload

[graceful prism]

thats what ill get than

[burnt spear]

Yeah my brother has one

Hp omen 15 2070 super max q version

[fossil imp]

Let us know once you get it and how you like it

[fossil imp]

Nice

[graceful prism]

yea im down for that do they work in the seat also?

[burnt spear]

I had the acer triton 4000 (I think that was the name) wirh a 2070s max q, even with fans on max it got up to 90 while gaming

Returned that POS very quickly

First off it was supposed to have a 2070s max p not max q

The scratch pad stopped working after 2 days

[fossil imp]

Nice, I like those. I have the Lenovo Legion 15 with a 2070 Super Max-P

[burnt spear]

And for a 1500$ laptop it should have decent cooling

Returned that and got my pc

Couldn't be happier that i did lol

Well actually

[fossil imp]

Nice. I got my Legion since I was going to travel a lot more but then Covid happened so I may or may not get rid of it, it's still under a year old and I've used it a few times

[burnt spear]

No I got a skytexh pre built for 1200$ and went to replace mobo

[fossil imp]

But I also have my gaming desktop too, lol

And just received my RTX 3080 Ti this past Monday

[burnt spear]

Long story short I ended up having to get rid of EVERYTHING from that ore build except gpu, cpu, and ssd

[fossil imp]

Nice, how do you like it?

[burnt spear]

So actually spent more like 2k on my pc and a proper monitor... yeahhh never going skytech again

They screwed me over so many ways

[fossil imp]

Dam, that sucks. ABS is what I recommend, they use off shelf parts and I haven't heard anything bad yet.

[burnt spear]

yeah when i got my pc i didnt know anything about pcs

if only i could go back

[fossil imp]

It happens but at least you live and you learned.

[burnt spear]

yeah

[craggy laurel]

ayo

[hexed bison]

any good b550 mobo, something around 175$ aud, that converts to 125 usd

[vernal cosmos]

cpu?

[hexed bison]

5600x

[vernal cosmos]

wouldnt recommend skimping on the mobo

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HjQfrH/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-wi-fi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550m-plus-wi-fi

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7HjNnQ/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-elite

those 2 are good

[hexed bison]

thank you

[devout moth]

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[tawny dagger]

Hi, my motherboard has a header labeled j LED for 12 volt RGB, except it has no pins on it. do i have to solder them on? or is the header not usable?

[cursive epoch]

I suspect it's included in higher end model of the mobo

[vast meadow]

Nope, either it's a board design where the rgb is only on the higher end model or they done goofed and forget

[cursive epoch]

^

[tawny dagger]

well im not about to risk it

i guess no rgb for me

but what's weird is that the pc came with two fans, one of which has ARGB

the otehr is just white, but there is no RGB header for them to connect to at all

the argb one is controlled by a case button

and I cant for the life of me find what they're connected to

[vast meadow]

I'd check your motherboards manual, if the pin shows up there then rma the board, if it's not then you'll know it's only on the higher board or something

[tawny dagger]

i bought the PC used

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[cursive epoch]

the case probably has an rgb hub

[tawny dagger]

I'm kinda second guessing the descision because the mobo is kinda ass

but the GPU was good

1500$ for an i7-8700 and a 2080 with a full set of peripherals

[cursive epoch]

kinda eh deal

[tawny dagger]

where im at you can hardly find 2070s for this price

[vast meadow]

Are you converting prices to usd?

[tawny dagger]

no

[cursive epoch]

well newegg has erm, abs prebuilts if you're in the us

[vast meadow]

Yikes

[cursive epoch]

new, with 3070

[tawny dagger]

if I was in the US i wouldnt have bought a used PC

[vast meadow]

You can get an abs prebuilt with a 3070 and 10400 for that price

[tawny dagger]

but amazon doesnt ship here :)

nor does newegg :)

[fossil imp]

Dang, that sucks

[vast meadow]

So you are converting currency then?

[fossil imp]

Sucks times 2

[tawny dagger]

and all pc retailers are overpriced :)

[cursive epoch]

well outside of the us, that's pretty good

[tawny dagger]

no, I paid in USD

[vast meadow]

Huh

What country

[tawny dagger]

yeah we deal in LBP and USD

lebanon

[vast meadow]

Ahh

Thought newegg shipped there

[tawny dagger]

the most braindead pc builder community that exists

they call a PC a case

and they call a GPU a VGA

[devout moth]

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Reason: Bad word usage

[cursive epoch]

my country calls whole pc a cpu

[tawny dagger]

forgot I was on newegg

[tawny dagger]

LMAO

[cursive epoch]

kek

[vast meadow]

[tawny dagger]

half the retailers dont know that ram has different speeds

[fossil imp]

The first time that I hear Video Graphics Array, I laughed out loud

[tawny dagger]

I asked someone what speed his ram runs at and he said 16 gb

[cursive epoch]

vga is actually the og word before gpu tbh

video graphics adapter

[tawny dagger]

huh

isnt it a video input

[cursive epoch]

no

[tawny dagger]

like HDMI's drandpa

[cursive epoch]

it doesn't only do input

[tawny dagger]

uk the cable with like a billion pins in it

[cursive epoch]

it has to output its inputs

so it's an adapter

[tawny dagger]

fair point

i hate VGA cables

[fossil imp]

Video Graphics Array

[cursive epoch]

vga/dvi cables are good imo

[tawny dagger]

it's like im wrestling a bull trying to put it in

[cursive epoch]

they have secure mechanism

i never have a problem putting vga or dvi on tbh

[fossil imp]

Analogue cables suck, that's for sure. There are still monitors being made today that come with them

[cursive epoch]

just gotta aim it right

[tawny dagger]

it's either they suck or my school has gone out of it's way to mutilate every VGA cable they have

[cursive epoch]

hdmi is a piece of cake

harder to mess up

[fossil imp]

Its easier with display port and HDMI cables though. And DP cables, have a release button for removal so they're pretty secured

[cursive epoch]

but less secure as it has no screws that holds the cable in

[vast meadow]

Vga and dvi securing thing is wonky

[cursive epoch]

im talkin about hdmi ofc

no experience with dp

[tawny dagger]

DP cables are annoying in that moving it a bit can cause the signal to go out

[cursive epoch]

none of my stuff except my mining rig has dp

others all has vga and/or dvi then hdmi

[tawny dagger]

bro

[vast meadow]

Dp cables have a secure thing you press down, also easier to tell which way is right way up

[tawny dagger]

you have no idea how abnoxious miners are here

[cursive epoch]

in where you live?

[vast meadow]

You realise foxy has like 1 or 2 gpus mining and that's all lol

[fossil imp]

DP cable connectors are in the shape of a "D" so just like HDMI cables, you can only plug them in one way. Pretty hard to mess up

[vast meadow]

Way most miners are

[tawny dagger]

like for the love of god, I get it, you have 76 3080s, now please stop posting about how much you hate elon musk on tiktok while promoting your discord server

[tawny dagger]

not talking about foxy

im talking about miners in lebanon

[vast meadow]

Ehh imo dp is easier to tell right way up because it's not symmetrical idk why

[vast meadow]

Just making sure xD

[tawny dagger]

hEy gUyS gO sPeND yOUr liFe sAviNGs oN tHiS jAnky aSs cUrRenCy iT's gOoD i pRoMIse

[cursive epoch]

lmao

yeah that's stupid to the max

[tawny dagger]

like fr just mine and leave us alone

[fossil imp]

I agree, I only said similar to HDMI since you can only plug them both in one way

[cursive epoch]

i mine with a lil asus phoenix 1660s

it's single fan, loud but ok thermals

[tawny dagger]

"id rather buy my gpu from a mining rig than from a gamer becasue gamers dont know how to watch their GPU temps", he says as his fans are pinned at 100%, memory temps reaching 105 C

[cursive epoch]

i mean i can keep it cooler but it's gonna disturb my sleep

[vast meadow]

Smol gpu

[cursive epoch]

at 100% fan it's loud as heck

way louder than my laptop

[tawny dagger]

as he also plugs his collection of used 10 series cards that eh wants to sell

[cursive epoch]

well damn

[vast meadow]

If they're running unpadded or crap padded gddr6x (3080 and up) that's actually quite likely

[cursive epoch]

a miner who doesn't tweak their gpu

[tawny dagger]

I might undervolt mine until I get more case fans since my GPU is heating up in some games

[vast meadow]

What temps?

[cursive epoch]

i just do it kinda lazily

[tawny dagger]

i feel sick seeing 90C on hotspot when I peek at HWMontor

[cursive epoch]

core clock lowest vbios allows

[vast meadow]

Ignore hotspot

[cursive epoch]

+1050 on vram

[vast meadow]

What's your non hotspot

[cursive epoch]

65% power limit

[tawny dagger]

core never above 85, memory and hotspot peek into the low 90s at high loads

but it still scares me

[vast meadow]

Are you using the stock fan curve for gpu fans?

[tawny dagger]

yeah

[vast meadow]

They usually poop

Open up msi afterburner and change it

[tawny dagger]

bet

[cursive epoch]

oh yeah i tweak my fan too

[tawny dagger]

to what do I change it

[vast meadow]

But you can undervolt too

[cursive epoch]

stock sucks for mining

[vast meadow]

The fan curve in the settings

[cursive epoch]

undervolting is a bit of a pain tbh with afterburner

no voltage offset

but curve

[tawny dagger]

what's weird is that they never got this hot in my benchmarks

[cursive epoch]

benchmarks sometimes aren't as hard as some games

[vast meadow]

What benchmarks?

Andd same ambients?

Same background apps etc?

[cursive epoch]

today was a hot day

pc got loud lol

but it was only the whole afternoon to evening

fan curve is aggressive at higher temps for that

so temps aren't an issue

[vast meadow]

Mine is 30% 0-30c then diagonal line up to 100% at 70c

[cursive epoch]

i probably should do that too

i kept whole thing at a curve

temp is a bit high for my liking at hot days

but then again doing that could turn it into an annoying ramp of the fan lmao

[vast meadow]

I never see above like 60c ish but tbf I've low ambient

But i have my pc mining all day when not gaming so i feel that balances out the low ambient

[cursive epoch]

my ambient in the days could go up to 40c some days

[vast meadow]

[cursive epoch]

yeah

[vast meadow]

It's like 16c here

Was like 29c a few weeks ago and i was like covered in sweat 24/7 xD

[cursive epoch]

29c would be a bit warm for me

and decent lel

especially for the rig

but 25c or lower would be great

that's when i turn on the ac at hot nights

[vast meadow]

I actually had to stop mining it was so warm

[cursive epoch]

gpu would run lower than 70c even

[vast meadow]

We don't have ac in homes here ya see

[cursive epoch]

in hot days for me gpu goes to 77c

[vast meadow]

[cursive epoch]

eh it's just 1660s

not a problem

vram ain't toasty

[vast meadow]

Toasty

My CPU won't even go that hot under stress test xD

[cursive epoch]

my rig is an oem asus so

i mean the case has airflow but it has only single case fan

that is acting as rear exhaust

[vast meadow]

I see

[cursive epoch]

I would add more fans if I make the cash back lmao

whoops, finger gone derp

[vast meadow]

Nice lol

[cursive epoch]

Or even swap case who knows

If gpu market became good

I wanna get rid of this case

[vast meadow]

Why bother if just mining?

[fossil imp]

This, it just gives an insight into how the GPU performs underload

[cursive epoch]

idk if money is good by then i'll swap it into a rack

[vast meadow]

Why bother it's just 1 gpu right?

Foxy ez pz free rack

Turn pc onto back panel

[cursive epoch]

lmao

[vast meadow]

Remove side panel

Or half lay on top to reduce dust

[cursive epoch]

well yeah i mine with single gpu

wouldn't matter anyway

[vast meadow]

Spend money on something for yourself lol

[cursive epoch]

well if i eventually make the money back

the 1660s will be listed

or even trade for a better gpu

[vast meadow]

Yes stonks

What are you using to game with atm?

[cursive epoch]

4710hq+850m lappy

as i've always had for a year by now

soon two

it throttles but it has ok perf even so

like console perf? perhaps?

720-768p 30 fps or + depends on the games

[vast meadow]

Why don't you just use 1660 pc for games?

[cursive epoch]

it's miner lel

can't touch it

hash rate be droppin

better not spoil myself too

[vast meadow]

I mean like if i turn off my 3070 for an hour it's only like 16c I'm loosing out on or 8c if i play and mine

[cursive epoch]

well i have only 6 gigs vram too

it ate almost all of it mining already

like 5 gigs

[vast meadow]

All of the vram on the gpu is used up so same, but sometimes i forget it's still on

Keep in mind i usually play low even tho I've a 3070

But still

Same fps in overwatch anyway

[cursive epoch]

huh well

that's interesting

[vast meadow]

Yup

Keep in mind I'm fairly cpu bound in overwatch with an r5 3600 but ye

Still better than r9 380 4gb i had

[devout moth]

Shaker#8932 has been warned

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Shaker#8932 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[teal surge]

Anyone know how to turn off the cpu fan error in rog bios

I’ve looked for a while and can’t find it

Is there a fancy name or something?

[grizzled bloom]

Do you have a fan plugged into the cpu fan header?

If so it probably needs to be replaced because the rpm is too low to pass the check

If you're sure it's working as intended, swap another fan onto that header

[teal surge]

im using an aio

someone told me the notification can be disabled in bios

and yes, the specific fan i cullently have plugged into it is actually spinning faster than the other fans even though the curves are the same

[grizzled bloom]

You should have the fans on the radiator hooked into the cpu fan header still

Then the pump goes on the pump header

[teal surge]

all the fans on the rad?

[grizzled bloom]

Whether you can disable the warning is highly dependent on your model. It's off by default on mine even.

[teal surge]

lemme google is I can rq

[grizzled bloom]

There's usually a fan splitter cable that you can connect all the fans to that comes with the aio

[teal surge]

this one came with a whole hub, i have all my fans and rgb plugged into it

i took out a specific fan though to plug into the header just to make the warning go away but it didnt work

[grizzled bloom]

Could be a faulty header then honestly
Try a different fan first, but odds are you won't be able to disable the warning

[teal surge]

ok then

I might be able to

rog forums say it should be possible

thanks for the help!

[grizzled bloom]

I don't know where asus has the setting but msi has it under the system monitor where you set the fan curves and warning temps

[teal surge]

I found it

you have to search it up in the bios search thing

for some reason it wasnt in the fan control area, but whatever

[grizzled bloom]

Cool

[limber dragon]

in the fan curve section, set detection to disabled/ignore

[teal surge]

found it, wasn't in the fan curve section. Thank for the response though!

[naive pendant]

Dumb question, i ordered all the parts for a build and it's waiting for the 3080ti to come in stock at my store so until that is ready everything's been sitting in the warehouse. For cpu i picked a 5900x, and I'm wondering if i should put a hold on the order and wait until alder lake since it's so close? Are there really big expectations as far as gaming performance to warrant waiting for those benchmarks first? I can just switch the CPU/Mobo out then
Am in Europe btw

[burnt spear]

I'm not sure on the performance difference

But the first gen of ddr4 was buggy, so im expecting similar from ddr5

[naive pendant]

I mean I'll just keep the current ram i have i think. The new stuff will be quite expensive i assume

[burnt spear]

Well it depends on what mobo you get then, most likely only some of them will support both

[naive pendant]

Oh shoot so they're not ddr4 compatible?

[naive pendant]

Maybe i should just stick with the 5900x, since i just read that this year will only see the really expensive high end motherboards released, and also i don't really want to pay the early adopters tax with buggy overpriced ddr5 :/ i just wanna play games ya kno

[grizzled bloom]

Some of the new gen boards will support DDR4, the processors themselves support both DDR4 and DDR5

I have to say though, based on leaks intel 12th gen is looking really nice on 10nm

Maybe they'll drop their BS excuse for only having an 8 core as the top of the line chip

[naive pendant]

But I'd like to have my build by the end of this year and i read that only lower end mobos will support ddr4, and those come out next year

[grizzled bloom]

Not like the current gen stuff is bad, they still easily keep up with modern GPUs

A 5600X is enough CPU for the 3090

[naive pendant]

Yeah. The games I'll be playing will probably have a gpu bottleneck anyway

This is just the first time i found out that boards will be mostly ddr5 exclusive and you can't just put either or in there. My ignorance. And i don't see how it will be worth the price hike

[grizzled bloom]

That's just how the memory gen changes work really, if there's any overlap at all it's small. First gen DDR5 is a little better than a good 4400c19 kit of DDR4, and the new manufacturing stuff needed to make it on top is where the price increase comes from.
New process, more bad units. More bad units, higher price to compensate for losses.

[naive pendant]

Okay. I just assumed it was like pci4 motherboards where you could put in older processors and stuff and it would still work just not take full advantage of the new technology.
if i had several more months to wait out the growing pains of ddr5 and had an extra $500 in my budget it probably wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, maybe I'll just stick with the 5900x. thanks for the help

[grizzled bloom]

PCI spec is designed to be backwards compatible, much like USB. CPU and RAM sockets are not, they're physically different and older stuff just won't fit

[pastel dock]

Hello, this is a long shot, but does anyone have any information as to when the I5 11400 or I5 11500 will be in stock, can't seem to find it anywhere, sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place.

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

I'd say hopefully a month or so

But tbh who knows

[cursive epoch]

tfw cpu popular

[vast meadow]

@pastel dock if you don't already have a ram and motherboard a decent alternative atm for a cpu with integrated graphics is the 5600g

[cursive epoch]

if you could find one lel

but ye

[vast meadow]

They in stock?

[cursive epoch]

ah hmm

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qtCkp2 igpu build i put together for someone other day

[cursive epoch]

ayy it's at msrp

or near

[vast meadow]

At

Msrp of 260

[cursive epoch]

that ram tho

speedy cause igpu

[vast meadow]

Aye

And they needed 32gb cuz blender

[cursive epoch]

hm

fair

[vast meadow]

But that kit is soo nice

32gb 4000mhzcl18 for 160

[cursive epoch]

ye

well i wish pcpp would be better for thailand lmao

it uses price from wegg, not accounting shipping costs

[vast meadow]

Oof

[cursive epoch]

wegg does ship here but it's expensive

sometimes free but not always

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[cursive epoch]

rather buy local and get warranty

[vast meadow]

I could possibly order from wegg uk but brexit means possibly import charges etc

[cursive epoch]

so apparently they didn't replace the gpu for my rma

eh idc anyway

i still can see the dust lmao

[vast meadow]

It's complicated damm Brexit

[cursive epoch]

so i know it's the same

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-aukerman-comedy-fist-in-air-shaking-gif-5620082

[cursive epoch]

i did try to push it a lil

but ofc hw error

[vast meadow]

Lol

[cursive epoch]

returned to usual oc

[vast meadow]

Why would they bother fixing working gpu sure lol

[cursive epoch]

yah

Not disappointed tbh

Kinda expected that

[vast meadow]

Also gpus aint in stock exactly lol

[cursive epoch]

Least rma was free, they didn't notice any damages I did

[vast meadow]

Nice

Way it's supposed to be x)

[cursive epoch]

kek

they just took it as "oh it's dead, replace it"

what a relief

i'll be much more careful and confident later once i have to pull gpu out again

that is probably a year or more

[vast meadow]

pulls out board

Lol

[cursive epoch]

i'll just merely dust and blow on it

well i wish i could just pull mobo out with gpu in the slot

but the gpu blocks a screw

iirc

[vast meadow]

Lol

Sad

[cursive epoch]

it doesn't really block it much

just the shroud blocks it a bit

meh i'll take gpu out when i need to, not havin confidence

[vast meadow]

Knowing oems you lucky they didn't manage to screw the gpu into the case behind the motherboard xD

[cursive epoch]

lmfao

the design is so standard thank god

but the pcie bracket still annoys me

how that there's metal bits stickin out

leaving basically no wiggle room to pull out safely

[vast meadow]

Rip

[steep patrol]

can someone help me set my ram speed to what its supposed to be

[cursive epoch]

What ram, mobo and cpu do you have?

[steep patrol]

corsair vengeance ddr4 3200 mhz, msi b450 tomahawk max, ryzen 7 2700x

[cursive epoch]

mhm

you could go in memory settings, then xmp i think

choose profile with the speed you have on the ram

[steep patrol]

i tried that but when i choose the profile and restart the bios it still bumps down to 2133

[cursive epoch]

You gotta save the changes

[steep patrol]

i did

[cursive epoch]

Not just restart

Hmm, well damn

Try resetting cmos

[steep patrol]

ight

Nope

[cursive epoch]

honestly im kinda stuck, should normally work but it doesn't

[steep patrol]

Fighting my demons rn

[vast meadow]

@steep patrol where are you checking what memory frequency is?

[steep patrol]

The top of bios, also in task manager

[vast meadow]

Hmm

And you're enabling profile 1 of xmp

Then hitting save and exit?

[steep patrol]

Ive tried both profiles and manually setting it, none of them worked

[vast meadow]

Uhh

What does profile 1 say

And what does profile 2 say

[steep patrol]

Hold on ill send u pics

[vast meadow]

@steep patrol so ehh you're just enabling xmp and that's it?

If so I'd probs try update the bios

[steep patrol]

ive tried both xmp profiles as well as disabling it and manually setting it, neither worked

[vast meadow]

I'd update your bios then

What bios version are you on

[steep patrol]

one from january idk

boutta update it rn

[vast meadow]

Make sure you don't need to update to an interval one

And dont update to a beta

[steep patrol]

Updated bios, no change

[devout moth]

Marty#1811 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Marty#1811 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[steep patrol]

You think it could be because i have msi afterburner installed?

[vast meadow]

Definitely not

Ehh what slots do you have your ram in from left to right?

[steep patrol]

I have all 4 slots occupied

Just bought 2 new sticks and put them in now this happened

I believe the order they were put in was 2,4 and 1,3

[vast meadow]

Ahh

Try 1 kit at a time

In slots 2 and 4

Mixing kits can be a PITA

[devout moth]

кηιgнт0ωℓ#7117 has been warned

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[steep patrol]

i set the speed down to 2933 and it worked so whatever imma just run that ig

[split copper]

the timings might be slow

[vast meadow]

^

And could be unstable

I'd run an hour of occt just to make sure it's stable

[languid iris]

Hey guys I'm replacing my cpu cooler and while removing the thermal paste I took the cpu out of its socket and found that there are a couple of really bent pins in the corner of it. I've been trying different methods to straighten them out, but none of them seem to work. The processor seemed to work fine when it was in the system before with these bent pins, so should I just leave them be?

[rocky beacon]

Jesus what CPU is it

[languid iris]

1600

I've sort of bent one of them back using a sewing needle

Ok I think one of them is pretty good but I still got 2 more

[pastel dock]

I already have a b560m pro4 motherboard + 450w psu, im thinking of getting of just buying the i5 11600k because its the only one in stock atm. But im wondering if my psu can handle it, plus I'd have to get a rlly good cpu cooler, because i've heard it runs pretty hot

[vast meadow]

Uour psu can handle it you would just need a good cooler and a different board as the 11600k would most likely throttle the power delivery on that board

[languid iris]

Welp one of the pins fell off

I really doubt that it's gonna work now

[rocky beacon]

There is a chance those pins are ground or unused pins

[languid iris]

Probably a pretty small chance though

Idk should I give it a try I mean it's not like they were connected before if they were this bent

[pastel dock]

Damn, already got the motherboard, can u recommend a budget cooler please.

[vast meadow]

For a non k i5, gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5, for a k cpu scythe fuma 2

[pastel dock]

alright thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[old hazel]

which is best cpu for gaming and coding ?

pls help

i am using rtx 3080 ti graphics

[hollow crown]

im trying to find a compadability rating for some ram, but ive found nothing so far

its A-Tech 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR3L PC3L-8500 DIMM/1066MHz 4rx4 1.35v

[old hazel]

please help

[vast meadow]

10850k/10900k/5800x/5900x/5950x

[vast meadow]

what cpu do you have?

[hollow crown]

mm your gonna love it

intel core I5 750 quad core 2.67 GHz

[vast meadow]

uhhhh stick it into https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

and see if its compatible

[hollow crown]

i have to go to work, ill text back when i can

and yeah ive done that, the brand doesnt even show up

its A-tech

[vast meadow]

What speeds and what cooler?

[vast meadow]

You bought it already i assume?

But ballistix is fairly low profile afaik

[naive pendant]

Here’s one for all you tech Gurus out there (I’ve fixed this now)

I turned my PC on - no audio. At all. Audio service was running, speakers plugged in (windows said there was audio outputting) and all audio devices were working. No audio at all.

Fixed on reboot.

What broke?

[vast meadow]

Ohh if you already have ram, you want to get the exact same kit that you already have

[hollow thorn]

Drp4 leaves 40mm under fan under standard conditions

What case do you have

Most cases will have enough leeway to let you move the fan up

[vast meadow]

Probs weird driver issue

[hollow thorn]

@naive pendant onboard or using external amp/dac?

[naive pendant]

Onboard audio

[hollow thorn]

Drivers

[naive pendant]

But get this

Plugged in a USB Headset

[hollow thorn]

Ballistix should work then

[naive pendant]

Still no audio

[hollow thorn]

USB drivers then >:D

Also just check audio settings

[naive pendant]

Like the entire audio service had died but it wasn’t dead

Reboot fixed it

[hollow thorn]

Onboard audio always has some issue, easy to pin the blame on it :p

[naive pendant]

Yeah true

I’m also using it in 5.1 audio mode

So AUX in and Mic in are Center/Sub out and Rear Left/Rear Right

[vast meadow]

But mixing dies :/

[hollow thorn]

Thought they were replacing

What CPU

Corsair ram wack

[vast meadow]

Idk where you're finding 32gb of 3600cl16 from corsair

[hollow thorn]

Ballistix 3600c16 2x16gb :p

[vast meadow]

For that price

[hollow thorn]

3600c18

But eh

Would like ballistix still

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164174
For example

Lower cl = better by the way

The Corsair kit is c18

[devout moth]

Sudip Kundu#5806 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Sudip Kundu#5806 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vast meadow]

If you needed more just get the exact same ballistix kit tbh

No issues with different dies etc

Nice

[onyx locust]

Howdy everyone. I need help diagnosing a problem I've been having the last couple of days that is brand new. As I am using my pc (the first two times were in a game) the RGB lighting on my Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ram goes static. The lighting on my keyboard and fans which are also corsair, continue to move like normal. When this happens, my pc freezes up until I hold the power button to shut it off and turn it back on. I really need to figure out what this problem is because this is scaring me. I built this pc around 2 months ago and it did it twice yesterday in a game and once today just on discord and youtube.

Does anyone know how I can troubleshoot this or maybe find a fix to the problem?

ping me if you have an answer

[devout moth]

luk3t#8838 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

luk3t#8838 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vast meadow]

As you're having freezes, try starting with this
General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

[dense patio]

I have a asrock z370 pro4 motherboard inside a phanteks enthoo evolv X case. The case has a usb 3.1 gen 2 type c front IO port. My motherboard does not support this.
Is there a way that I can adapt the cable to fit one of the usb 2 header ports on board? Or is it simply not worth it?

[vast meadow]

I've seen adapters for usb c header to the usb 3.0 header but not to usb 2.0

[dense patio]

Welp. Gues I'm SOL then

Also for CPU cleaning.
I don't have any isopropyl alcohol to clean the old paste off with.
What's my best best option for something I might have in my house? 😂

[rocky beacon]

dampen a paper towel

[dense patio]

Oh I can do that can I?
I was thinking it but wasn't certain

[vast meadow]

You can grab some rubbing alcohol in your local pharmacy for like a fiver

If you don't have any of it already

[vast meadow]

I doubt a damp paper towel would work, at least without a crap tun of scrubbing and waiting for the cpu to dry

[dense patio]

I'm trying to avoid leaving my house today if possible 😂

Tbh I managed to kind just do it with a dry paper towel in the end.
The paste was still quite wet as I only repasted not that long ago. But I'm installing a new cooler right now sooo

[rocky beacon]

Damp paper towers work fine for me

[vast meadow]

Ahh fair enough

[cursive epoch]

Water alone can be pain

Like with paper towels and stuff

[vast meadow]

Gotta be wary bout the water drying up properly n stuff and depending on how old the thermal paste is, it can require a good bit of elbow grease

[cursive epoch]

^

and water is dangerous

gotta be careful

unless you have a bottle of distilled water around lmao

[rocky beacon]

I have used dry paper towers tons of times on thermal paste and it was fine

[cursive epoch]

which isn't common

[dense patio]

I am gonna invest in some isopropyl at some point just to have around because I know ire useful stuff. Just never bothered to do it

It's clean enough for now I think, after using the dry stuff.
Maybe I'll repaste it again when I get isopropyl, just to make sure

[vast meadow]

Btw rubbing alcohol will be the same thing usually and probs a lot cheaper as you can get the boots brand of it or something if ya get me

[dense patio]

Oh it's the same kind of percentage is it?

[vast meadow]

Yeah I've 91% rubbing alcohol i use

Same thing just different namee

[steep patrol]

Ight so yesterday i had problems w the ram i had just installed, i gave up and am just running it at 2133, anyways… ever since i installed them ive been getting up to 40% packet loss while playing games, could this be from the ram or is it something else

[vast meadow]

Are you mixing kits?

And no packet loss is internet related

[steep patrol]

I got 2 of the same ram kits like 6 months apart

Any idea how i can fix this

[vast meadow]

Ehh packet loss but was the ram running at xmp before you got the new kit?

[steep patrol]

Yeah

Could enabling network stack help

[cursive epoch]

nah

network stack is something for lan boot

like boots with lan or something

[regal prism]

Just found an i7-920 in my dad's first PC build

Would post a picture here but this channel doesn't allow files

[vast meadow]

I would not buy an i7 920 for any amount of money tbh

Mb like 5$

Ohh in not for nvm lol

I'm blind

[onyx locust]

Sounds good! I'll try running those right now. I was failing to install a BIOS update as well which was bothering me. Not sure why it wouldn't work.

[random temple]

Can I post questions about Mobos here?

[vast meadow]

Ofc what's the q?

[vast meadow]

How do you mean it was failing to install?

[onyx locust]

I installed the software like I was supposed to. Then inside of that software I downloaded the @bios software. When trying to select which motherboard I have, mine didn't come up in the list. So then I tried downloading the update from the internet and using the software to install it...but it failed to install every time I tried that.

[vast meadow]

Ohhhh ehh avoid updating the bios threw windows just do it in the bios

What motherboard do you have and what bios version are you on?

[onyx locust]

Well the mobo is a Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi...I couldn't figure out how to do it in the bios...

And I don't remember I think it was like maybe 10 versions back and the one I just got was V61

[vast meadow]

Go into the bios and check the version

[chilly nova]

Yall have a good recommendation for laptop ram, 32gb at 3200mhz?

[vast meadow]

And it's pretty easy, there should be a section in the main menu that says ez update or something like that

[onyx locust]

Alright. One sec

[vast meadow]

https://www.newegg.com/tools/memory-finder this should be able to help you

[chilly nova]

Thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[onyx locust]

F51

[chilly nova]

Should I get buffered or unbuffered?

[vast meadow]

I mean you could probs leave it at that one atm, there's only 2 more bios versions, so unless you're having issues or need to update it for a ryzen 5000 CPU I'd leave it

[vast meadow]

Unbuffered

[chilly nova]

Aye aye

[onyx locust]

Ya I have a Ryzen 5 3600 in there right now.

[grizzled bloom]

Buffered is for servers mainly

[chilly nova]

Thank you

[onyx locust]

This is what it shows in the BIOS Tab...I have the new bios on a flash drive in there but I'm not sure how to install it.

[vast meadow]

Unless you plan to upgrade the cpu then, or are having issues I'd leave the bios version as it is

If you want to do it, go onto the MIT tab

Should be there

[random temple]

I got an ASROCK B550M-ITX/AC motherboard and I am wondering how I can update its BIOS so it can run the Ryzen 5 5600G I have. Who can I go to for support?

[onyx locust]

Alright I might as well just so I feel comfortable that the mobo isn't the problem.

[vast meadow]

Ehh that motherboard doesn't have bios flashback, so if you don't have a Ryzen 1000 to 3000 cpu to update it with you'll have to just return the motherboard and get a different one with bios flashback -which i would do anyway as there's usually better boards for the price

[vast meadow]

It's quite unlikely it is but okay

[random temple]

Is there really any mini-ITX motherboard that DOES have BIOS Flashback?

AM4 one that is

[vast meadow]

1 sec

[onyx locust]

So in the download for the bios update...where should I put the files inside so that I can find them? I've never done this before haha

[random temple]

Won't AMD be able to provide me with a "loan" CPU to update the BIOS and then return it?

[vast meadow]

@random temple https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BCddnQ/msi-mpg-b550i-gaming-edge-max-wifi-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550i-gaming-edge-max-wifi

[vast meadow]

Ehh they could but I have no idea if they still do that

[grizzled bloom]

Yes this is one that has flashback https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550i-aorus-pro-ax/p/N82E16813145222

[random temple]

i sure hope they do

[vast meadow]

Unzip the file and put it in the root directory of the usb, ie the main folder

Both linked do

[grizzled bloom]

Another with flashback https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b550-i-gaming/p/N82E16813119322

[vast meadow]

They are also way better motherboards ^

[onyx locust]

Alright.

[random temple]

Thanks ladies and gentlemen. Sadly I'm bound by my budget and I've already bought the motherboard and shipping from USA to Saudi is very expensive so I'm just going to try to take all choices I can before Returning the motherboard or asking Newegg to update the BIOS for me.

Thank you!

[grizzled bloom]

You can bring the board to a local shop and have them update the bios. I know microcenter has that service.

[vast meadow]

Ohh if you're in uae i can link you a board for there

[random temple]

Sadly most shops in my city only own Intel CPUs and I doubt they would really help me

[random temple]

I would love that

I'm in Saudi tho but the shipping is gonna be less expensive

[vast meadow]

Wth pc part picker uae pcpp is gone

Ehh if you could link a few local sites i could point out a few with flashback

[onyx locust]

@vast meadow I'm failing to find it when I'm in the BIOS...I unpacked everything

[vast meadow]

Is your usb formatted as fat32?

[random temple]

The problem is that I don't know any local good sites

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[onyx locust]

It's just a USB. I have no clue.

[grizzled bloom]

How much capacity is the USB?

[vast meadow]

^

[random temple]

Finish Mr. Jumperstumpers issue and I'll wait after him

[onyx locust]

128 GB

[vast meadow]

Ohh there is Newegg for saudi

[vast meadow]

You're gonna need to partition the drive to 32gb

Or lower

[random temple]

It still ships from the United States lol

[grizzled bloom]

That probably comes formatted as ntfs at that size, you'll need a program to change the format

[grizzled bloom]

fat32 supports large volumes, it's just Windows doesn't like to tell you that

[onyx locust]

And nowwww...is when I say no thanks! You said it was fine so I'm going to leave it for now.

[grizzled bloom]

16TB is the max

[onyx locust]

So I going to run those things you said to run earlier and then I will go from there.

[vast meadow]

@random temple https://www.newegg.com/global/sa-en/msi-mpg-b550i-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144323?itemPosition=1-8&exactIndex=2

946 sr with free shipping

:/

Idk how good that is lol

[vast meadow]

I've been lied to

[vast meadow]

You can revert it it's only temporary but ya

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah it's just if the drive is larger than 32gb Windows defaults to exfat or ntfs and won't let you do fat32, but external programs for managing partitions and such will work

[random temple]

That's basically 1.5x the normal price on the US site

[vast meadow]

Ahh...

Well that's the cheapest option i could see

[grizzled bloom]

How much would shipping be from somewhere else I wonder? That may end up being the best option including international shipping

[random temple]

Probs qatar or uae or smth

store974.com

Gotta love the very innovative names for Arabic E-commerce stores

Silicon Valley Computers

Again, very innovative

Couldn't find ANY mini-ITX motherboard in Arab-based stores

I'll try with AMD or ASROCK or Newegg's support

Sorry for bothering y'all

[vast meadow]

Yeah mb

[nimble cliff]

is the Mobo tier list pinned from 2020 maintained?
I'm trying to figure out what mobo to buy and re-learning how to purchase a mobo every 4 years is starting to get to me lol

[grizzled bloom]

The VRMs only matter if you're getting a high power processor, like 10/11700k or higher
Last revision appears to have been almost a year ago, but should still be accurate enough except for new products

[devout moth]

samer-AS#2888 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

samer-AS#2888 has been kicked

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[devout moth]

!void_point!#3354 has been warned

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!void_point!#3354 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[long geyser]

Hm, neat.

[lone plume]

Hey, been awhile since i've been here.
Was wondering if someone can help me with some RAM shopping?

[vast meadow]

Country, amount of ram and what cpu?

[lone plume]

U.S. Trying to find a somewhat cheap pair of 8Gb RAM, DDR3, 1333Mhz. And my cpu is a I5-2400, 3.10Ghz

Is that good?

[vast meadow]

Ah you're gonna have to do some ebay/fb marketplace shopping etc but yeah just try to match the speed of the kit you have atm

[lone plume]

Does the "PC3 - so and so numbers" matter?

[cursive epoch]

PC3 just means DDR3

[warped scroll]

PC3 = DDR3
Numbers after mean speed
PC3 12800U = DDR3 1600MHz

[lone plume]

Alright, so do i 'need' to pay attention to that if i already know my DDR and MHz?

[warped scroll]

I don’t really ever pay attention to it

Just make sure it’s not ECC ram

[lone plume]

ECC?

[rocky beacon]

Server or workstation memory

[hollow thorn]

Ecc by itself doesn't really affect performance, but ecc only on jedec spec frequency and timings

[lone plume]

Okay, so should i worry about ECC or not?

Cause i just found a good deal for two 8Gb sticks of RAM. And it's compatible with everything else, but the ECC.

[rocky beacon]

Both your CPU and Motherboard has to support ECC usually

You should not be looking for ECC unless you are building a server or workstation

[lone plume]

"Dual Channel DDR3 1333 MHz non-ECC" Is what the specs of my motherboard says.
So i take it i'll need to find a non-ecc?

Just making sure "DDR3 ECC Registered RDIMM" means it does have ECC, right?

[rocky beacon]

Correct

[lone plume]

So ECC is if you're wanting to make a server, or have a workplace computer. While non-ECC is what you'll want for stuff like gaming. Correct?

[rocky beacon]

Pretty much

[lone plume]

Welp.
Back to the shopping i go.

[eternal turtle]

see pee you

[grizzled bloom]

Mo' bow

[devout moth]

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[craggy laurel]

yoo

[naive pendant]

is the z590 ud good?

and does the 10600k and the 10400 have a big differnce? (not including the fact that the 10600k is overclockable)

[grizzled bloom]

Nice name, but not so awesome at it

[grizzled bloom]

10600k is about 15% better, not counting overclock

[naive pendant]

would you personally get it?

[grizzled bloom]

It depends on what games you want to run. If you play high detail graphics games that rely on gpu more, then you can save some money on the cpu. But if you play stuff like overwatch, cs:go, etc you'll want the better cpu.

[serene topaz]

My Asus B-560 plus LGA 1200 motherboard is saying I need an adapter to plug in the front panels USB 3.0, what is this adapter?

[grizzled bloom]

What case? It might be talking about a USB type C port, which needs a special header or adapter

[serene topaz]

A phanteks enthoo pro

[vagrant geyser]

So who has the best Mobo for AM4

[serene topaz]

It needs an adapter for the blue USB 3.0 connector

[grizzled bloom]

Ok found where pcpp got confused.
The case has 2x usb 3.0 ports (with one header cable), but the board lists the spec for its usb header as 3.2 gen 1. It's still the same 20 pin header. It'll work.

[serene topaz]

Where on the board is this pinout? In the manual it literally says I need an adapter and there is no pinout that I can find for it

[grizzled bloom]

Pinouts are really hard to find in general, I'll see what I can do

[vagrant geyser]

Which motherboard has the best software for the most RGB customization

[grizzled bloom]

3.0 pinout

[serene topaz]

I have the cable put there is not a pinout on the motherboard that I can plug it into

[grizzled bloom]

Below the 24 pin connector

This is the right board, right? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-B560-PLUS/HelpDesk_Manual/

[craggy laurel]

is

[vagrant geyser]

Anyone?

[grizzled bloom]

Imo they all suck

Each in their own way

[serene topaz]

Thankyou, it was there

[vast meadow]

I'd get the 11600k instead of 10600k if you wanted to oc on a z590 or an i5 10400/11400 on a b560

[naive pendant]

Is the 10400/11400 not able to work on a z590 or is the b560 just a better board for performance?

[fossil imp]

If you want to OC, go for the Z590. For non-OC, GO FOR THE B560. The Z590 also tend to have more PCIe 4.0 slots available than the b560s

[naive pendant]

What if I buy the 10400 then plan on going to a 10600k or something

Could I buy the z590

Is the z590 or z490 compatible with the 10400?

[hollow thorn]

both

10400->10600k isn't a jump worth buying a whole new chip for

[naive pendant]

Wdym

[hollow thorn]

z490 and z590 both work with 10400

so does b560

[naive pendant]

Ok thanks

[vast meadow]

No it's just to take advantage of a k chip really, you need a z board as some b560s can't handle a k chip power delivery wise, and you're paying more for an overclockable board with a cpu that doesn't let you overclock

[fossil imp]

They will work with the 10400

[vast meadow]

But waste of money

[cursive epoch]

just get b560

[fossil imp]

This, if you're not going to OC, then no need for the Z590 chipset

[limber dragon]

If you plan to oc, go z590 though, z490 had tons of issues across all of the manufacturers

[hollow thorn]

tho a decent z490 board is still good

stay off asrock

[vast meadow]

Idk why you'd bother going z490 for an i5 when z590 ud ac is the price it is

[limber dragon]

Ehhhh a low end z590 in most cases is still better than a decent z490

[hollow thorn]

I'm mostly talking used boards

like say a z490-f over a z590 ud

[limber dragon]

Gigabyte fixed memory topology, and upgraded vrms a notch. MSI fixed their "tabbed" traces. Asrock and Asus not sure about.

[hollow thorn]

Asus should be good both generations

asrock is asrock

[limber dragon]

I'd personally go giga z590 ud over a asus z490-f tbh

[hollow thorn]

(for a 10600k)

[limber dragon]

Giga vr vout

Asus needs maximus line for die sense

Then vlatch on only apex and extreme

[hollow thorn]

z490-f would have better vrms

but 10600k doesn't really need it

[limber dragon]

Ehhh looking at the boards, asus would have a better vrm, but no die sense and no ppd availability

[hollow thorn]

or z490-e or smth

but I would assume the Asus board would have better traces for mem oc

not sure on topology

[naive pendant]

It’s because I can’t find a mobo that’s in my liking and/or compatible with one or two of my parts

[vast meadow]

You in the usa?

[naive pendant]

Yeah

[vast meadow]

If you get a k chip get z590 ud ac

For b560 pro vdh

[naive pendant]

My fans aren’t compatible with gigabyte

[vast meadow]

Huh

[naive pendant]

Wait one sec

EZDIY-FAB ARGB Case Fan 5 Pack Kit with Hub X Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KWJV67B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_HMNCEC5QCVSA7JRYV3EW

[vast meadow]

They are just normal fans..

Rgb fusion is gigabytes rgb

[naive pendant]

Is the Asus ROG STRIX B560-A a good b560 board?

[vast meadow]

Wouldn't bother spending that much

Wouldn't spend more than 150 for a b560

Look at Asus PRIME B560-PLUS Or MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO

[naive pendant]

They don’t fit the color scheme I am going for

[vast meadow]

Prime and b560 a are literally the same colour -silver....

[devout moth]

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[wintry girder]

So on a mobo when it shows the total usb ports number are all of those usable just as standard usbs?

[vast meadow]

Uhh yeah why wouldn't you be able to

[devout moth]

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[last harbor]

Is the AMD 4600H or Intel i3 10300h better for gaming?

[cursive epoch]

4600h much better

[last harbor]

I'm assuming both single core and multi core as well?

[cursive epoch]

yep

kills the i5 in every way

[last harbor]

Ok thx

[devout moth]

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[devout moth]

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[fresh river]

Why are there so many people getting warned and kicked

[fossil imp]

Probably trolls unless its one that keeps sending bots in

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[vast meadow]

It's bots cuz always 1 gpu then 2 here lol

[fossil imp]

Yup, has to be bots. Probably same person sending them since they all behave the same way

Not sure who has all this time just to send bots

[vast meadow]

[grizzled bloom]

It's usually the same scam message trying to ping everyone through steam

[fossil imp]

Scammers will keep trying, that's for sure

[devout moth]

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[fresh river]

Hahaha speak of the devil

[fossil imp]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/bots-hobots-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-woody-gif-17120878

[cursive epoch]

everywhere, every darn day

[fossil imp]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-keegan-michael-key-jordan-peele-but-why-tho-why-gif-5387178

[keen thicket]

yo can someone help me

i have an MSI MPG x570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi and I was doing a BIOS Flash for my 5800x. The BIOS flash seemed to go okay but then the BIOS Flash light just stays solid red. It goes through the whole process of blinking slow and then blinking fast but then the light just stays on. Does anyone know what that means?

[bold gull]

guys my cpu has 2.50 ghz but its useing 4.18 ghz rn??

can anyone explain

[rocky beacon]

Turbo

[bold gull]

what does that mean

is that healthy

for my cpy

[rocky beacon]

Yeah

[bold gull]

cpu

[rocky beacon]

That's normal

[bold gull]

oh ok

[rocky beacon]

CPUs don't stay at a specific frequency always

[bold gull]

i also have a 1650ti and its core clock offset is 160 mhz and vram clock offset is 500mhz is that good

also is 88c good for a cpu

and can i lower cpu perfomace

so it doesnt over heat

[grizzled bloom]

Modern processors are made to run up to about 90C. It'll automatically reduce the turbo speed when it needs to keep the temps down.

Every gpu overclocks differently, it's hard to say if yours is "good"

[upper rose]

Wait, 90 Celsius is normal?

This is why I'd rather have noise.

[grizzled bloom]

Yep
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-views-ryzen-5000-cpu-temperatures-up-to-95c-as-typical-and-by-design/

90C for up to the 5800X, 5900X and 5950X are 95C

[upper rose]

Oh!

That's only slightly below boiling.

[grizzled bloom]

https://youtu.be/7uBNCN6v_gk

[cursive epoch]

cpus aren't water btw, 100c can even be ok with some cpus

just some

not all cause 100c is point they tend to shut down

90-95c is range of throttling

well unless it's ryzen 5000

[upper rose]

I know they aren't water, but it seems painfully hot.

I guess I used the wrong word there.

[cursive epoch]

mhm, just wanted to add

[upper rose]

right

[cyan raft]

Yeah even the 5600x gets insanely hot. Sips’s 5600x was hitting 90C under OC im pretty sure

And that was under a 360 aio

[cursive epoch]

5600x is hottest chip outta 5000 series

cause heat density

[limber dragon]

5800x hottest chip because more cores, and they run very inefficiently