cpus-mobo-and-memory

[vast meadow]

Another game

[bleak cedar]

I see... Well, I had low end i5s before (now have the 10600K that I bought a little over a year ago) and they made me not want to ever recommend a low end i5 to anyone.. I don't really care if I'm wrong, it's just the bitter taste they left me with

And I mean, that's not really that close to the 5600X

[vast meadow]

Right, well what i5 did you have, because both the 10400 and 11400 where great

[bleak cedar]

I had the 2400 YEARS ago, and after that I had a 6400 when it was new, then I got my 10600K I use now

[vast meadow]

It is, it depends on the game, and this is with power limits enabled, if you disable power limits it is almost the same

[vast meadow]

I mean they are ancient chips anyway, like 2c4t iirc and 4c4t or something

[bleak cedar]

How do you disable the power limits?

[vast meadow]

Some boards do it automatically

Otherwise I'm pretty sure you can do in Windows with an intel tool

Or in bios

[bleak cedar]

They're both 4c4t as far as I can remember and I'm not talking about how they would perform today, I'm thinking about how they performed on games from their time

[vast meadow]

That's fair, i mean I'd say you got unlucky

[bleak cedar]

The 6400 was released after GTA V on PC and I remember it being at 100% all the time barely being able to run it

Well, not barely, but it wasn't as smooth as I'd want it

[vast meadow]

Oof, well the 11400 is not like that tbh, and you gotta remember those tests were with a 3080 as well, soo just remember that, they won't have a 3080 so these gaps will be less noticeable, if they're going 3080, they should be getting at least an i7 10700(k) or a ryzen 7 5800x or preferably an i9 10850k or ryzen 9 5900x

[bleak cedar]

He's going for a 3070 or something like that

If he can find one

So an i5/R5 should be good

[vast meadow]

Yeah that's fine then, unless they basically only play fps games, then an i7/i9 or r7/r9 preferably

[bleak cedar]

Yeah, unfortunately that's probably over the budget

[vast meadow]

That's fair, if it was fps tho 3060 might be more up there alley with a 7/9 cpu if you get me

That's usually not as common tho

[bleak cedar]

It's some FPS

But also flight simulator

Soooo

Complete opposites hahaha

[vast meadow]

Then i5 yeah, flight sym will be more gpu bound than cpu afaik, flighy sym will need 32gb ram tho

[devout moth]

b4dg3R#0376 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

b4dg3R#0376 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vernal cosmos]

Flight simulator is everything bound

[vast meadow]

Lol fair

[devout moth]

iliya#3279 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

iliya#3279 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[toxic galleon]

can someone tell me which one i should choose?

do i choose the AsusSetup or AMD_Chipset_Software?

[vast meadow]

What are you try a do

[toxic galleon]

update the chipset drivers

install the new chipset drivers

idk

[vast meadow]

Just go to amd.com go to drivers and run their install thing, chipset drivers from boards are usually outdated

[toxic galleon]

but this came out on feb 2nd

[vast meadow]

Kinda old, and the amd.com drivers are just 1 thing to install lol

[toxic galleon]

is it this one?

[vast meadow]

Ye if that's the right chipset

If you don't know chipset use the auto thing

[toxic galleon]

i have a ryzen 9 5900x, and im using a b550 motherboard

[vernal cosmos]

I would not recommend you to download chipset drivers from mobo manufacturer

they are usually out of date

Go to amds support site

and download from there

@toxic galleon

[toxic galleon]

ah ok

so i went on the site

and i chose those

are those right? @vernal cosmos @vast meadow

[vernal cosmos]

Absolutely spot on

Hit submit

[vast meadow]

Yep

[vernal cosmos]

get only the chipset drivers

not the raid stuff

[vast meadow]

Already out of date lol

[toxic galleon]

those are the only 2 things that appeared

[vernal cosmos]

board manufacturers are ridiculously bad at keeping anything except bios ot of date

[vernal cosmos]

That is for ur cpu

[toxic galleon]

yes

so which one do i download

i just want to update my chipset drivers

[vernal cosmos]

CPU drivers arent a thing

[vernal cosmos]

that there

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b550

direct link

[toxic galleon]

ohh so i wasnt supposed to pick the AMD Ryzen 9 5900x thingy

just put in what motherboard i had right?

[vernal cosmos]

I mean you asked us if thats the one and both of us said yes

what part of that wasnt clear

[toxic galleon]

@vernal cosmos this was when i didnt put in my CPU

[vernal cosmos]

And that was the one both of us said thats right to

I also said just hit submit

[toxic galleon]

then i did it again, but i put in my CPU, but then the Chipset drivers wasnt there

[vernal cosmos]

Did any one of us tell you to put in a cpu

[toxic galleon]

no

[vernal cosmos]

and btw the cpu is another category entirely

[toxic galleon]

but you said spot on

[vernal cosmos]

its not under the menu u were in

[toxic galleon]

ah ok well

[vernal cosmos]

what do you think that means?

[toxic galleon]

thank you, so im just going to download this one yes?

sorry im just making sure

[toxic galleon]

that im right?

[vernal cosmos]

Yes

[vernal cosmos]

no

u download the chipset drivers from there

NOT the raid stuff

or storemi

[toxic galleon]

ah ok

i understand now, thank you

and this is just going to update the drivers right?

it wont ruin anything on my pc

[vernal cosmos]

no it wont

[toxic galleon]

@vernal cosmos im really sorry rawr im just new to this so i dont understand much

[toxic galleon]

alright thank you

so i just download all of these? @vernal cosmos

[vernal cosmos]

yes

also ur installing

not downloading

[toxic galleon]

ok my bad

[devout moth]

YAGAMI_LIGHT#1109 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

YAGAMI_LIGHT#1109 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[toxic galleon]

@vernal cosmos so i just installed it and restarted my pc, is that it?

im done?

[vernal cosmos]

yes

[toxic galleon]

oh wow, thank you @vernal cosmos @vast meadow alot

[vernal cosmos]

np

[vast meadow]

Ik lol

Np

[scenic iris]

Hey can someone help me rq

I need to know if this ram will fit my motherboard

My motherboard is ddr3 and the ram is ddr3 is there something else I should look for

It's the same hz too

[vast meadow]

look for the same timings but it will physically fit in your mobo yes

[scenic iris]

what are timings

[vast meadow]

it will be something like 2133mhz then timings 11-11-11 for example

[scenic iris]

aight how do i check my current ones

[vast meadow]

hwinfo 64 will do

[scenic iris]

hol up i have a thing that my uncle had installed that shows me the specifics

ill send a pic of it in pm

[vast meadow]

will look something like this

[scenic iris]

its loading rn

[vast meadow]

okie you should be able to post the pics here btw

@scenic iris

woops didnt realise reply and ping

[vast meadow]

okay so youre running 1066mhz 7-7-7-20

[scenic iris]

Would 9-9-9-24 work?

[vast meadow]

It should work, but it would run all your ram slower

[scenic iris]

Oof

I just need a reliable 8GB total cus I'm at 4 rn

Any recommendations that'll fit with all the specs

[vast meadow]

Tbh the 9 9 9 24 will probs be fine but ddr3 you can only get used nowadays

[scenic iris]

Aight

I found a 25 dollar corsair thing with that

Thanks for the help man

[vast meadow]

np

[fallen fractal]

Freakin Amazon man…. Shipped my Mobo by slapping a sticker on the product box and sent it off. Morons

[keen surge]

What did you expect from a trillion dollar company run by a man who doesn't care about his workers?

[fallen fractal]

Cardboard?

[keen surge]

That'd be a luxury, coming from them

[naive pendant]

is it safe to use nuts instead of a backplate for my cpu cooler?

[fallen fractal]

I think I’d be worried about shorting out your board or something. But I’m not an expert

[vast meadow]

^ i would be a bit concerned about shorting something yeah

[vague ore]

Thanks. I took the fan off and it looks identical. It has the curved tuning through it also. I've contacted SM and they are telling me they are different heatsinks and I void the warranty taking the fan off, but I can't see the difference..

[hollow thorn]

Oh weird

[wind field]

What is a good motherboard the has m.2 and has built-in wireless wifi am4 platform

[smoky widget]

AMD or Intel? @wind field

[wind field]

Amd

[smoky widget]

MSI tomahawk

[wind field]

I kinda was thinking the msi mpg x570 carbon what do you think of that mb?

[vernal cosmos]

Not bad but why not b550

Better Vrms in general

[steep magnet]

i have a intel i5-9400, gigabyte b365m, and 16 gigs ram 2400 mhz. what do yall think of this combo? the motherboard is pretty much a budget board, but generally any youtubers i watch and people i asked say that the mobo doesnt make a huge difference, especially if its only your first build

[hollow thorn]

Intel older lower end boards locking memory frequency is very sad

[devout moth]

R0BE#1350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

R0BE#1350 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[serene topaz]

What's the best CPU you would put on an B450 aorus M?

[vernal cosmos]

What aorus m

[serene topaz]

One of these https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m/p/N82E16813145081?item=N82E16813145081&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813145081&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiqWHBhD2ARIsAPCDzakELUxnX-tM07g-wf2DlF5IavOVZ6MeD0wpEIyIHaZnW3b886KJuakaAvvqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[hollow thorn]

I wouldn't go beyond a 5600x, but technically a 5950x goes in

[vernal cosmos]

I would go till 5800x tbh

but mr1111 knows more than I do

[serene topaz]

I was never going to go that high but sounds good

[vast meadow]

I'd go 3700x(for last gen)/5800x but 5800x is a push

[pallid totem]

I was wondering about a refurbished 8th Generation i5 versus a refurbished 10th generation i3? (any thoughts, longevity of technology life, not a gamer, but trying to learn and video with Adobe Elements and Corel Video Editor as a amateur)

[split copper]

With an 8th gen platform you can upgrade to a 9th gen CPU but no further, and 10th gen you can upgrade to 11th gen and, at least so far, no forther

RAM speed for the motherboards that don't support memory overclocking will be limited to slower speeds of 2666 on 10th gen boards and under

The 11th gen boards fetch you a good 3200 I believe

Results in a decent performance gain for the most part

[quartz zinc]

does anyone know where i can find a 9900k for cheap? i would get a 10700k but i dont wanna upgrade my mobo

[split copper]

perhaps you could find one locally

probably not a big chance

[quartz zinc]

nice

i found one on fbook marketplace for $200

gotta make sure its legit

[split copper]

kind of difficult to test it lol

gotta set up a whole test bench and paste it up

[tawny arrow]

I purchased the ASUS x570 I motherboard from the website in the previous paragraph, but after I received it, I assembled it and found that the interface of the audio link motherboard did not match. The chassis is NR200P. For this problem, I don’t know how to solve it. I searched many articles on the Internet and finally found that there was a missing audio interface on the motherboard.

[vernal cosmos]

Wuut

The front panel audio header?

[tawny arrow]

YES

This part is marked on the manual: Front Panel Audio connector.

I don't have this item, and I don't know where to buy it.

[vernal cosmos]

Send a pic of the bottom of the mobo

[vernal cosmos]

Are u talking about the wire or the place it slots into on the mobo?

@tawny arrow

[tawny arrow]

no

[vernal cosmos]

What do you mean no

What exactly are you looking for

[tawny arrow]

Please wait.

[vernal cosmos]

I mean you asked for help

[tawny arrow]

YES.

Was having trouble inserting the HD Audio cable from Node 304 to the X570-I audio connector. The cable seems fine, but the audio socket is too small. HD audio pins are exactly 10mm apart (paper width), and motherboard connector pins are 8-9mm apart. Is it AC'97? On X570 board?

[vernal cosmos]

Wuuuut

[tawny arrow]

The chassis is. NR200P

[vernal cosmos]

Send me a pic of the bottom part of the mobo

In dm

U cant send pics here yet

[tawny arrow]

Yes.

I don't know what to do now. I don’t know if I have purchased this transfer

[vernal cosmos]

I mean i asked u to dm me a pic of the mobo but you don’t seem to want to do that so ur on ur own

[tawny arrow]

I send it to you.

[naive pendant]

Guys I'm getting a warning on pc part picker for the combination of

• AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor and
• Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Warning!Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vermeer CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

Is this bad?

[vernal cosmos]

nah

the board has bios flashback

so you can update easily

[naive pendant]

Thanks dude

[keen surge]

It just means you may need a Ryzen 2000-series or Ryzen 3000-series GPU to do the BIOS update

I had to do something similar when attempting to run my Ryzen 5 3600 on a B450 board. Had to use a Ryzen 5 2400G to update the BIOS on the B450 before it would even accept the 3600

[vernal cosmos]

LMAO WHAT?

You can use bios flashback with nothing except motherboard power and cpu power attached to mobo

no cpu or gpu or ram

[vernal cosmos]

that isnt bios flashback

Please keep misinformation to yourself thanks

[vast meadow]

That's just a regular bios update not bios flashback my guy

[keen surge]

I was under the impression that a flashback was just resetting the BIOS back to factory settings

[vernal cosmos]

thats called bios reset

Please atleast do a quick google search before giving advice

[vast meadow]

Nope bios flashback allows you to update bios with no cpu ram etc pretty nice feature

[keen surge]

How does it update without the updated files?

[vernal cosmos]

pendrive

theres a designated port

mbr fat32 format

[vast meadow]

You plug a usb with the bios file named something specific in a specific port and press the button

[vernal cosmos]

drag bios file

rename it to whatever they tell you to on the site for ur mobo

plug into the bios flashback usb slot

and press the bios flashback button

[fallen fractal]

There are boards that’s don’t need to be flashed though right? Some advertise “Ryzen 5000/Zen 3 Ready” so you’d have to assume those are good to go out of the box right?

[vast meadow]

Yeah but it's hit and miss, how long it's been on the shelf

[fallen fractal]

Is it best to flash it anyway then? Or try and boot when you build and just see what happens

[vast meadow]

Ehh either or tbh, i would update the bios anyway because it's probs an early ryzen 5000 bios but depends if you wanna do after built or before i guess

[crisp rapids]

how can i fix my base speed to be 3.7 always and not be slightly under

[crisp rapids]

goes up to 4.675

[vast meadow]

Just enable precision boost overdrive, it will be 3.7 base it's just a rounding error r sum

[summer marsh]

so what cpu should i get

[upper aspen]

@summer marsh are you looking for intel or amd or does it not matter?

[summer marsh]

the best performance and price

[upper aspen]

whats your budget for the cpu

[summer marsh]

its like 400$

[upper aspen]

I gotta look i dont know much about cpus but ill get back to you

[summer marsh]

ty

[upper aspen]

do you have a preference for intel or amd?

[summer marsh]

no

im not a team red or blue im both

[vernal cosmos]

Helpi budget

ill send ya a list

[summer marsh]

nice ty

it would be helpful

is 400

[vernal cosmos]

400

for the whole system?

[summer marsh]

for cpu only

with a 3060 ti

[vernal cosmos]

mobo as well?

[summer marsh]

no

only for cpu

400

[vernal cosmos]

5800x is the best you can get in that budget

[summer marsh]

nice

[upper aspen]

ill leave him in your hands, i know nothing on CPUs lol

[summer marsh]

tyy

[upper aspen]

do you already have the gpu

[summer marsh]

yes

i bought it for 1.5k

[upper aspen]

1.5K!!!!

WTF

that is like 5x msrp

4x but still

[summer marsh]

sorry

1.5k lei

ron

ups wait let me see how much is it

361,52$

from a friend

[upper aspen]

ohh thats a really good deal, below msrp nice

[summer marsh]

ye

[upper aspen]

thats a good friend

wait, forced?

[cyan raft]

Forced?

[summer marsh]

no like

[upper aspen]

...

[cyan raft]

I’m just imagining him having a gun up to his friend’s head forcing him to sell it

[summer marsh]

he was trying to sell it to a stranger for 400

[summer marsh]

no sorry im bad at english

[upper aspen]

same lol

[summer marsh]

he is fine dont worry

[upper aspen]

thats what a captive would say?

send proof

[summer marsh]

no like i didint hurt him in any way

[upper aspen]

[worn quail]

I’m sorry but can I ask a quick question?

[summer marsh]

and he has a 3070 ti

he wants to sell it to me for 450

[upper aspen]

yeah whats up (and dont ask to ask, just ask)

[cyan raft]

Ask away Alter

[summer marsh]

i said no since i have the 3060 ti

[worn quail]

I’m about to lose my my mind, so I have two GPU on my MSI laptop, Intel and Nvidia, I’m trying to do something but this game keep going to the Intel Graphics, if I disable Intel GPU will I be fine?

[cyan raft]

Easier way to do it

Right click on desktop

[summer marsh]

yes, i mean thats what i did

[cyan raft]

Go to Nvidia control panel and set the main GPU to default

[summer marsh]

Thank you so much for the help guys imma build the pc

[cyan raft]

Don’t bother disabling the iGpu

[worn quail]

Ah okay okay, thank you

[thick tulip]

what motherboard would you guys recommend for:
Ryzen 7 1700 CPU
5700xt GPU
32gb of 3200 RAM
and a couple hard drives and ssd

[cyan raft]

Why a R7 1700?

[thick tulip]

its what i bought when i first built it?

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok I thought you were planning a build now

Yeah that makes sense

[devout moth]

Captain_Pool#8405 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick tulip]

motherboard died lmao

guess the s word isnt allowed ha

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok makes sense

What mobo was it?

[thick tulip]

ab350 gaming 3

basicallyi cant access any motherboard settings or the pc wont load to the OS at all.

[cyan raft]

Oof

You most likely could upgrade to a B450

What’s your budget?

[thick tulip]

yea. wiped some old hard drives and then it started acting weird and then i couldnt get to the uefi through any means at all. been at it for four hours and so im done lol

[cyan raft]

Personally if I were I’d also upgrade the CPU at the same time but ain’t really necessary

[thick tulip]

i mean if it wont destroy my bank account i could

[cyan raft]

An 11400F and Asus Prime B560 would run you about $300 and would out perform the 1700x

[thick tulip]

idk if i wanna do intel lol

[cyan raft]

At budget Intel destroys AMD

[thick tulip]

in the newer gens yea true

so lets say i dont want to go more than like 400 max

[cyan raft]

Why don’t you want to do Intel?

[devout moth]

Captain_Pool#8405 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick tulip]

ugh lmao

[cyan raft]

I feel that

It took a bit of getting used to when I first joined

[thick tulip]

anyways. i just want a pc that will run 1080p smoothly.

i have a 5700xt

so if upgrading cpu and gpu and staying under 400 max would maximize this gpu then ill go for it now.

[cyan raft]

Your GPU is perfectly fine for 1080p I’d just upgrade the CPU to an 11400/11400F and an Asus Prime B560 motherboard

[thick tulip]

so im going to go to microcenter to buy these. they dont have that model at the location im close to

[cyan raft]

The 11400F have an iGPU, the non F version doesnt

That’s the only difference between the 2

[thick tulip]

either wayu they dont have the 114

and thats a micro atx?

[cyan raft]

Yeah microcenter is your best best

Nope the Asus Prime B560 is normal ATX

Nvm there’s a version of it that is

Asus Prime B560A

[thick tulip]

how is the z590 mb

[cyan raft]

Overkill for what you need

[thick tulip]

gotcha

out of amd what chipset would you pick for a MB? @cyan raft

[cyan raft]

5900x

5600x and 5800x don’t have good value

5950x is only good for rendering and CAD work

But the 5900x isn’t anywhere close to budget

Just the CPU is like $550

[thick tulip]

they have the 7 3700x for 270

[cyan raft]

Rn it’s a decent CPU but I wouldn’t say it’s worth it

The 11400F slightly edges ahead in single core perf

[thick tulip]

they dont have that model tho

i7-107k, 97k for 270 and 250

i5-106

[cyan raft]

I’m guessing you’re using this for just gaming?

Id go for the 10700K it outclasses the 3700x in gaming

[thick tulip]

ok and a MB to compliment it?

[devout moth]

Captain_Pool#8405 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[thick tulip]

and i realized i need a new cpu fan too most likely

[cyan raft]

What’s your current cooler?

[thick tulip]

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

[cyan raft]

One sec @vast meadow Your opinions?

[vast meadow]

Onn a 212 evo?

Ew

[cyan raft]

Just in general, mobo for a 10700K and the cooler

The microcenter doesn’t have an 11400 in stock

[vast meadow]

Z490 prime and scythe fuma 2 for air or the usual 3 for aios

[cyan raft]

Budget is $400 for an upgrade

[vast meadow]

Z490 tuf or msi gaming edge wifi will do too

[quartz zinc]

does anyone know any itx 1ga 1151 mobos that are dirt cheap

i have an i3 7100

[thick tulip]

i dont need wifi @vast meadow

[vernal cosmos]

not great for gamin

[quartz zinc]

im using it for a server

[vast meadow]

10700 and z490 prime with a scythe fuma 2 then

[vernal cosmos]

Ahh ok patos got ya

[cyan raft]

Yeah Intel mobos aren’t really my thing

[vast meadow]

Fair it took me a while too

[vernal cosmos]

VRMs remain same across boards. Compare the vrm layout on the intel board with a similar layout on an amd board using the mobo tier list and you have the tier of the board

[thick tulip]

no scythe at the location

[cyan raft]

There’s a mobo tier list?

Why am I just hearing about this XD

[vast meadow]

B550 prime vs b560 prime kek

[vernal cosmos]

pinned message right here

[vernal cosmos]

pretty much

[vast meadow]

You can't buy online?

@thick tulip if you can't buy online, what's your mc location so i can see what they have online

[thick tulip]

Denver

[vast meadow]

Lemme see

[thick tulip]

Ok. Thanks for the help guys. This day sucks

[vast meadow]

And you can't get something online and get like prime shipping or something?

Np

[thick tulip]

I mean I could. The PC boots up oddly and whatnot. I just can't mess with any MB settings or do a safe mode reset or anything.

So I can use it I think. But it's been acting very weird lately and sluggish since this started

[vast meadow]

Wdym?

[thick tulip]

Exactly what I said. Lmao it's literally the weirdest thing ever.

[cyan raft]

Seems like a corrupted BIOS or something

But then again it wouldn’t boot if there was something with the BIOS

Well probably

[vast meadow]

@thick tulip wait so you are buying a new cpu mobo and cooler tho right?

I joined late so dk the whole story

[thick tulip]

So short and sweet.
Used docking station to wipe old laptop drives.
After one was done I updated stuff.
Reset PC and stuck on splash screen 2 times back to back resets.
Removed cmos battery twice and it fixed it.
But now I can't access UEFI settings at all. Not from windows advanced restart, or resetting and pressing f12 or del

[cyan raft]

Originally he was looking for a new mobo for a 1700x but I really don’t think that’d be that good of an idea considering how good of an upgrade he could do

For so little

[vast meadow]

Yeah

[thick tulip]

So that's the issue I had to cause MB problems. I have a 5700xt gpu and I'm only running 1080p so I wanna max it out for budget price if possible

[vast meadow]

@thick tulip if you had a b350 or x370 they were kinda janky anyway

Okay

I would recommend a scythe fuma 2 cooler, it's 60$ vs the only good cooler that micro center has, the nh d15 for 115

Wait lemme check what aios they have

Well you could get an evga clc 240mm for 110 but meh

That's the price of a 280mm/360mm arctic freezer ii

[thick tulip]

Ok. I can look into all of that. Any idea what could have jacked up the MB?

[cyan raft]

He had a ab350 gaming 3

[thick tulip]

I might end up just buying online to save the money and waiting. Itl suck but I can do it ha

[cyan raft]

Yeah that’s probably your best bet

You most likely could get the 10700K in store and the rest of the stuff online

[thick tulip]

Yea. It's like 100 something off so I would say that's a good deal lmao

[vast meadow]

B350 being buggy idk tho

[thick tulip]

Ight. Well I'ma look into all of these parts and see what I can do. I want to stay under 500 if possible

4 or 5

[hollow thorn]

When in doubt, reset cmos again >:p

[vast meadow]

I7 10700(k) and prime z490 and scythe fuma 2

[thick tulip]

Done it twice already and 2 more this morning during all this

[hollow thorn]

What's the use case?

Also, could try to flash bios with flashback if that's an option

[thick tulip]

I can't flash the bios at all. Nothing works

@bios didn't work

Doing the bridge thing on my MB didn't work.

[hollow thorn]

Bios flashback referring to the one button bios flashing

[thick tulip]

I don't have buttons on my MB

[hollow thorn]

Some boards will let you download bios file, rename it, put it on a USB, plug USB in, and press a button on rear io

[cyan raft]

It’s a B350

I doubt it has flashback

[hollow thorn]

Yes, some b350 had it too

[cyan raft]

Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3

[hollow thorn]

Well, not that one..

[cyan raft]

Wait but it has dual bios

[thick tulip]

?

[cyan raft]

One sec I’m finding a manual for it

Nvm their dual bios can only be switched in bios

[vast meadow]

Bruh

[cyan raft]

Ikr

That’s such a stupid idea

[thick tulip]

I'm like super screwed lmao

[cyan raft]

“Hey if a guy can’t access the bios where is the best place to put the bios switcher? In the bios obvious”

Nice one gigabyte

[vast meadow]

How did they even

[thick tulip]

Haha that's how I've felt for it all. I can't enable virtualization for school. I can't change boot drives. I can't do anything besides boot up and I can't have that

[vast meadow]

There must be a physical switch somewhere

[cyan raft]

Nope

I just checked the manual

Click F2 when loading into BIOS

[thick tulip]

If I do it stays on a black screen

Won't load up

[hollow thorn]

Wonder if bios is just borked, where you're in but you don't see anything

[thick tulip]

I guess. Idk. Me and a few guys in a diff server ran through everything and nothing worked so now I'm here haha

[hollow thorn]

Have you tried using f2, and then using keys to navigate the theoretical bios and try to do things? For example trying to switch the bios?

[thick tulip]

Nothing works my man. Literally nothing would work

[vast meadow]

Ohh yeah, it could also enter bios, but not like your graphics card in bios if it's an old gpu, also try a different cable/monitor

[thick tulip]

It's a 5700xt and I removed that and used integrated and it would still do it

[vast meadow]

@thick tulip you don't have integrated graphics with a Ryzen non g chip btw

But 5700xt should be fine

[cyan raft]

I don’t think the 1700x has integrated

[vast meadow]

Only Ryzen chips with integrated graphics have g at the end

[cyan raft]

That might explain why you didn’t see anything without the 5700xt

[thick tulip]

Ah well I used the HDMI on the motherboard only and my 5700 and neither would show the splash screen or enter any menu once I got it to boot into the OS

[vast meadow]

You did have the cable connected to the 5700xt right?

And not the mobo

[hollow thorn]

I mean it's possible to in the bios but you still have a black screen

I had it happen to me before

[devout moth]

kiddymujiib#8069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

kiddymujiib#8069 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[thick tulip]

Correct

[vast meadow]

Ahh ok idk then

[thick tulip]

Well I'm currently resetting the whole thing and hoping that can help. I feel like for some reason it's an OS issue not letting me access that but then again I doubt that because the bios and UEFI are separate.

[hollow thorn]

I'll check for you where reset bios settings is in bios, and I'll tell you what keys you would need to press to get there, even without any display

also, looks like it's del to get into bios

[thick tulip]

Yea

[hollow thorn]

When in the bios, to get to the reset to defaults, it would be
Right arrow 6 times, that will get you to the Save&Exit tab, and Down arrow 2 times, that will get you to the 'load optimized defaults', and press enter.

[thick tulip]

I can try that if this reset doesn't work.

Im breaking this thing to default everything to solve ha

[hollow thorn]

I believe you'll have to press enter 2 times, once to select it, another time to say yes

but well, hey, spending some effort on random debugging might help you just not having to spend to upgrade it

[thick tulip]

Yup. That's what I'm going for haha luckily I just finished the semester so I have a month off to mess with it

[hollow thorn]

mhm

[thick tulip]

Oreciate the help everyone and suggestions @vast meadow and @cyan raft

[vast meadow]

Np :)

[cyan raft]

No problem 🙂

[cyan raft]

@hasty dew Ok so

Basically your best bet for a good budget cpu is an 11400F or maybe like a 10600K

[hasty dew]

I’m not that budget tho

Is the 10700k good?

[cosmic wind]

I have a question. Is upgrading to 5600x from 3600 worrh it ?

[cyan raft]

$300 is pretty much the budget range

[hasty dew]

Ir better then the others

[naive pendant]

this is on sale rn

[cyan raft]

Nope

[hasty dew]

Yeah I saw that

[cosmic wind]

Good

[hasty dew]

Should I get it?

[naive pendant]

They aren't that big of a leap

[cyan raft]

Ehh for $270 it ain’t a bad deal

[hasty dew]

Is it new?

[cyan raft]

Last Intel gen

[naive pendant]

if you want 8 cores get the 10700k if you want 11th gen get 11600f

[cyan raft]

Wait

[naive pendant]

?

[cyan raft]

What purpose is this pc for?

[hasty dew]

Which is better

[cyan raft]

That’s the big question

[cosmic wind]

Damn you get 10700kf for 270, retailers in ukraine charge 400

[naive pendant]

Ehhhh i think 10700kf better

[cyan raft]

What is the purpose of this PC?

[hasty dew]

Ok I might get that one

[naive pendant]

gamin

[cosmic wind]

gamin for gamr

[cyan raft]

Ok so you don’t really need 8 cores

[hasty dew]

I will have a little extra to spend on a nice mobo

[cyan raft]

I’d get the 11600K then

A lot better single core and same multi core performance

Along with an Asus Prime Z590 mobo

[hasty dew]

Okay

[hollow thorn]

doesn't have to be asus

[hasty dew]

I like it

[naive pendant]

ye

[hollow thorn]

MSI z590-a pro usually a better price, with pretty good vrms

[cyan raft]

True but I like recommending Asus because of my RMA experience with them

[cosmic wind]

Other question is 7 5700x worth upgrading to from 3600? I focus on gamin and modeling/music prod.

[cyan raft]

But yeah the Z590-a pro is also good

[cyan raft]

No such thing

[hasty dew]

I think I’m going to get the 11600k

[cyan raft]

Yeah that’s probably your best bet

[hollow thorn]

5800x exists, no 5700x.

[cosmic wind]

Oh

[cosmic wind]

Oh

[hasty dew]

And pair it with 3060ti

Is that good?

[naive pendant]

Yes

[cosmic wind]

Yea

[naive pendant]

don't overpay for the 3060ti

[hasty dew]

Okay thanks for the help guys, I’m going to order the cpu tmrw

[naive pendant]

if you have money though go for 3070 or 3080

[hasty dew]

Maybe, if the prices go down

[cosmic wind]

I managed to get a gpu before the gpuapocalypse

[naive pendant]

just wait

[quartz zinc]

is it ok to pair a z270 with a 9700k?

[limber dragon]

if you want to mod the socket, sure

[vast meadow]

Lmao

[quartz zinc]

whats wrong with the socket?

[hollow thorn]

It's incompatible out of box

Intel segmentation things

[quartz zinc]

alr

[hollow thorn]

It's technically both lga1151 but there's slight differences

(z270 and say z390)

You can mod the socket though, put some tape on some pins iirc

[quartz zinc]

does that mean 12th gen will need a new socket?

[hollow thorn]

12th gen is getting a whole new board and socket yea

[quartz zinc]

damn

time to switch to amd

[hollow thorn]

11th gen is supposed to be end of line for lga1200

Zen 3 is end of the line for am4 too

Next generation will both be new sockets

[quartz zinc]

dang

[hollow thorn]

Lga1700 and am5, although naming is not certain

[quartz zinc]

i hear that amd might stop using pga and start using lga instead

[hollow thorn]

prob

[limber dragon]

until amd chipset segments

[hollow thorn]

ya

for now, a520 b550 x570 doesn't do much to performance

[limber dragon]

I more mean the b350 not supporting zen3, b550 not supporting zen/+ etc

[hollow thorn]

oh yea

that's likely to continue

[limber dragon]

a line most likely has some separation, and Im sure x570 and x370 dont support the same cpus

I know my x470 doesnt support a lot of apus, and different bioses have different support

[hollow thorn]

yea

[vast meadow]

They're switching sockets for next gen lol

[cursive epoch]

ddr5 is already here

so yah, the next gen stuff definitely needs new socket

[fallen fractal]

DDR5 is available, but no chipsets support it yet and it won’t be worth moving over to it from DDR4 for a while

[fierce prawn]

Any motherboard recommendations on the cheaper side looking into building my first pc. 🙂

[split copper]

Honestly I've considered getting the lowest end chipset of the most recent boards, A520 for AMD or H510 for Intel, and just getting a board with that chipset that has nice features

Will lock you out of certain things like CPU overclocking I think, and less PCIe lanes but otherwise it's tempting

[celest anchor]

h510 doesn't even have MEM OC

and most don't have the ability to change pl

[split copper]

No, but I don't care about mem oc either, goes up to 3200 on Intel and much higher on AMD either way

[celest anchor]

3200 is only on RKL

2933 on cml i7's and i9's, rest of cml is 2666

big loss running that compared to 3600

on cml

and rkl is pretty garbage anyways

[split copper]

Ok so an i3-10100 will run like an i3-10100 with the same memory frequency as it always ran

11400 would be fine too

Why would you put an i7 or an i9 on the lowest chipset anyways xd

[vernal cosmos]

It isnt available yet

just listings

no stock

[celest anchor]

what

[celest anchor]

there was stock, just all sold out

or removed

[vernal cosmos]

FR?

[celest anchor]

yeah

[vernal cosmos]

U got one?

[celest anchor]

No they were crazy expensive

[naive pendant]

can i use a nuts instead of a baackplate?

[vast meadow]

I would be afraid of shorting that tbh

[devout moth]

BennyFN#4672 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

BennyFN#4672 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[thick tulip]

what motherboard would you suggest with a ryzen 5 5600x cpu? have a few prospects and want opinions 🙂

[cyan raft]

Why a 5600x?

[thick tulip]

im playing around with options

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok

Asus Prime B550

[thick tulip]

so what do you look for in a motherboard becuaue i was looking at the rog strix b550-f and something else ha

[vast meadow]

That's an overpriced board imo, it's fine but, you want a board with bios flashback and good vrms but the vrms bit isn't a bit you can find on the spec page

[devout moth]

Alex A.#0350 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Alex A.#0350 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[fading mauve]

is the mag b460 a decent choice

[grizzled bloom]

Get B560 if you can so you can use faster memory

[vernal cosmos]

Ayyyy! return of the king!

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah took a bit of a break for my Disney vacation and the aftermath. I'm back now.

[vernal cosmos]

@slim olive @vast meadow get ur simp game on falcie has returned

[vernal cosmos]

Pog!

[hidden rampart]

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/simp-mode-simping-gif-18699866

[daring torrent]

Would you guys recommend ryzen 5 5600 or ryzen 7 3800x (on a better deal than 3700x) is better for streaming? I’m trying to decide also the 5600x is $40 more.

[vast meadow]

Do you have an nvidia graphics card? If so ryzen 5 5600x and a b550 board or intel 11400 and a b560 board, if you don't get an intel i7 10700(k) and z490

[fading mauve]

is that the business series

[cyan raft]

It’s the average user series

The 99% of people series

[fading mauve]

like pro

series

[cursive epoch]

no

B560 is just newer

[fading mauve]

cool

i am better off with the b460 i can put the io plate in

[vernal cosmos]

5600x

[vernal cosmos]

Why specify nvidia card

[vast meadow]

Nvenc

[vernal cosmos]

Ahhh streaming

[swift apex]

hi, is any tech support able to hop into the general voice to help me out?

Fez is on this server and just joined vc and started mic spamming and blowing my eardrums out

[digital kernel]

Which fez lol

[swift apex]

not sure, has a black pfp

while youre here boblasershark. could you possibly help me out

[digital kernel]

You can ask in text

[swift apex]

ok, my motherboard supports 10th gen processors and 11th gen but for it to support 11th gen i need to upgrade my bios. Is there anyway to do that minsu buying a new motherboard or cpu to upgrade it?

[digital kernel]

What motherboard and CPU do you have?

[swift apex]

a gigabyte z490 master and the i5-11600k

[digital kernel]

Looks like you're in luck, that motherboard can flash a new bios without a CPU even installed

[swift apex]

wow, thats dope! how do i go about that?

[digital kernel]

Put a USB with the new BIOS on it in this USB slot, then press the q-flash plus button on the left

[swift apex]

wow thank you!! you're great.!

[digital kernel]

Detailed instructions are in the manual, page 91
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_z490-aorus-master_1001_e.pdf

[swift apex]

thank you sir! have a wonderful day!

[digital kernel]

Np, you too

[devout moth]

brendenfg2#1830 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

brendenfg2#1830 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[swift apex]

@digital kernel thanks to you i have my new pc up and running. Currently on it! Thank you again sir!

[digital kernel]

Nice!

[daring torrent]

thank you 🙂

[vast meadow]

Np :)

[oak root]

What’s a good motherboard for a 5900x budget 300$ usd

[vast meadow]

Msi b550 gaming edge wifi or msi b550 mortar or asus tuf b550 (wifi)

[oak root]

Is the msi x570 gaming edge wifi good?

Oh never mind

Is the gigabyte b550 vision any good

[vast meadow]

Meh they are both overpriced, spending more than 200$ on a motherboard does nothing really as there are great 200$ motherboards that will most likely be better than the others, if not the same basically

[oak root]

My motherboard rn is 211 I can’t even use for a 5900x lol

[vast meadow]

What board?

[oak root]

Msi x570 gaming edge wifi

[vast meadow]

That can handle a 5900x yeah

[oak root]

Is I don’t need a new motherboard?

[vast meadow]

Nope, you might need a bios update tho

[oak root]

Is that easy

[vast meadow]

Yeah

Do you have an older cpu in it atm?

[oak root]

Ryzen 7 3700x lol I’m upgrading my gpu first

[vast meadow]

If so just download the new bios and unzip it, drag to a usb, then go into the bios and find the bios flash or bios update feature

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't bother upgrading from 3700x tbh unless you really need the extra horse power, what are you doing

[oak root]

Gaming maybe editing probably not though

[cyan raft]

3700x is fine for that

[vast meadow]

I would just keep the 3700x then, enable precision boost overdrive if you haven't for a nice boost in performance, and make sure your ram is set to it's xmp profile

[oak root]

My gpu is so bad

😂

[cyan raft]

So upgrade the gpu, why are you looking at cpu then?

[oak root]

I have enough money for both

[vast meadow]

Don't bother

Not worth your money

Imho

[oak root]

Okay thank you

[vast meadow]

@oak root wait for 12/13th gen intel or ryzen 6000/7000 imo

[cyan raft]

I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5900x, gaming saw barely any difference

[oak root]

Is the evga rtx xc3 hydro copper 3080 any good

[vast meadow]

Unless you're playing 1080p first person shooters 3700x to 5900x won't see a big improvement

[oak root]

I mostly play FPS

[vast meadow]

Any 3080 is good basically, just try get a 3080 no matter the model

[vast meadow]

Like csgo valorant?

Low details?

[oak root]

Val, apex, cod,

Med to low

[cyan raft]

I’d say it’s overkill for that

[vast meadow]

You might see a bit of diff then but still not worth, 3700x is nice cpu, just make sure pbo and xmp are enabled

[oak root]

Xmp is enabled idk about pbo

[vast meadow]

Enable pbo, it will give you a nice boost

[oak root]

My cpu rn is clocked at 4.03ghz

[vast meadow]

Task manager reading?

Task manager is a bit of a lier

[oak root]

Stress test

[vast meadow]

Use hwinfo 64 or hw monitor or something

[vast meadow]

What stress test?

[oak root]

Hwinfo

I ran a few hours ago

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[vast meadow]

But what stress test ?

A quick check in the bios to see if pbo is enabled is no harm, if not enable it and get a nice boost

[oak root]

Is that xmp

[vast meadow]

Yeah, what does profile 1 say and what does profile 2 say

That's gonna give you a massive boost in performance

[oak root]

My ram went from 2133 to 3000mhz

[vast meadow]

What does profile 2 have ?

Pick whichever has a higher mhz value

[vast meadow]

You were using your ram at super slow speeds which is bad for all cpus but especially ryzen, that's gonna be a massive perf boost, see if there's a 3200mhz profile

[oak root]

In this

[vast meadow]

Nono just xmp, check the other profile

[oak root]

Nope only 3k

[cyan raft]

He most likely could OC to 3200 from 3000

Well depending on what ram it is

[oak root]

Corsair vengeance rgb pro

Are these good upgrades 1060 to rtx 3080 hydro copper watercooled, thermaltake core p3

[cyan raft]

It’s a really big step up

You know you’re going to have to put together a custom loop for that card tho?

[oak root]

I know one of my friends is gonna help he’s built like 2-3 custom loops

[cyan raft]

That’s an extra 4-500

On top of the card which already will be expensive

[oak root]

I did the ekwb config thing I think it was around 550

[cyan raft]

Also are you planning to overclock at all?

[oak root]

A little more than rn probably

The total is 1618

[cyan raft]

And also how are you even going to get that card?

It’s one of the rarer 3080s

[oak root]

Time and patience the evga thing

[cyan raft]

Lmao I’m assuming you just entered the queue now?

You’re going to have to wait like a year or so

[oak root]

I haven’t yet do you think I should get a water block and do it myself

[cyan raft]

I wouldn’t bother with a custom loop

Just try your luck with the shuffle, or microcenter

[oak root]

So just a normal 3080?

[cyan raft]

Yeah

[vast meadow]

You checked both profiles? Anyway 3000mhz is a massive jump

[oak root]

I checked both they both only have. 3000

[cyan raft]

His ram is probably only 3000 mHz

[vast meadow]

That will get you it by the time 4080 is out kek

[vast meadow]

Thats fine, still a massive improvement

[oak root]

Should I upgrade my aio

[cyan raft]

What is it now?

And what are temps on the cpu

[vast meadow]

Even if it's a 240mm, that's fine for a 3700x

Unless it's a 120mm

Then upgrade

[split copper]

92mm aio

[cyan raft]

60mm aio

[vast meadow]

🤮🤮🤮

[oak root]

It’s one of the Corsair ones it’s a 240mm

[vast meadow]

That's fine for a 3700x

[cyan raft]

^

[oak root]

So I only need to upgrade gpu new case and psu nice

[vast meadow]

What psu and case you have atm?

And what gpu you have atm btw?

[oak root]

1060 😂 😭

My case is a h510 psu is a azza 650 80+ broke

Bronze

[cyan raft]

Go for a Lancool II Mesh

Case

[oak root]

I’m gonna go open chassis

Probably a thermaltake

[cyan raft]

Why?

[oak root]

Looks better IMO

[vast meadow]

Change case to a p500a or p400a or corsair 4000d airflow

[split copper]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/294161446938

[vast meadow]

@oak root for psu get enermax revolution df 850w

[split copper]

gaming

[oak root]

This one

170$

[vast meadow]

Yes, not 170$ tho jeez it's like 120$

[oak root]

It’s one Newegg for 170 🤔

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[vast meadow]

Must be 3rd party seller

[oak root]

1088$ dang 300$ cutdown on price

[vast meadow]

Huh? Wdym

[oak root]

Before I was gonna spend like 1500 on upgrades now it’s 1088

[vast meadow]

Ohh nice

[oak root]

Which case

[cyan raft]

Id get the O11 Dynamic if you want a case like that

It’s the same style as the bottom one but better

[vast meadow]

I would get o11d too because dust is awful in those open csses

And thermals aren't that great either cuz airflow hard to push over lol

[oak root]

My case rn doesn’t have a front panel and there’s not much dust

[vast meadow]

But does it have a dust filter?

[oak root]

It’s a front panel we’re the glass is supposed to go

[vast meadow]

why??

[random echo]

@vast meadow those are the options i have

[vast meadow]

hmm okay

[vast meadow]

the 2400s is slighty better from what i can see but they are close enough

[random echo]

ok

imma go with the i7 so i can say i have an i7

my old cpu was an intel core i5 e750

[grizzled bloom]

Please for the love of RNGesus don't get the i7 11700k. It's barely better than the 10700k, and worse in some cases.

[vast meadow]

Someone delete their old post or you a tad salty lol?

[grizzled bloom]

The guy above me that said they want an i7 just to have an i7

[vast meadow]

Ahh they were talking bout the i7 870 vs i5 2400s iirc but then said they will get i7 cuz they can brag basically but then deleted the original post

[grizzled bloom]

Ah yeah I was missing some context then.
In that case there's not much point upgrading a cpu that old anyway

[fervent lynx]

Help

I had a debate with a friend that tries to use the word "computer" to also count a CPU by itself

[vast meadow]

[fervent lynx]

I disagree frankly because it cannot process data without software or programs feeding it data to be processed

[smoky widget]

[vast meadow]

They no computer gud

[rocky beacon]

Some people call computers a CPU

[fervent lynx]

this friend is in some engineering college course so it baffles me that they think this way lol

it's like calling RAM or a HDD a computer

it doesn't fkn work

[rocky beacon]

Not sure where this came from but its weird

I have seen people call a computer a "CPU"

[fervent lynx]

I understand people calling a computer a "CPU", although kinda wrong itself

but calling a CPU a computer?

[vast meadow]

Hope they're in the civil engineering field and not electronic X)

[rocky beacon]

ah thats odd lmao

[fervent lynx]

bruh frr

nahh they in some mechanical electric engineering, they work on circuit boards and all

I said "would you call RAM a computer by that logic then?"

they said "no, RAM just stores data"

im like "ok but HOW does it know how to store data? it 'processes' it sso it by your logic is a computer"

sorry i vented here cuz bit disappointed in them saying that lol

wth is college doing

[vast meadow]

Tbf this bit is correct

[vast meadow]

The cpu just loads whatever is processed to the ram, ram does no computation

[rocky beacon]

When I am teaching hardware basics I usually say RAM is short term memory and Hard Drives are long term memory to people who are not super tech literate

[fervent lynx]

yeah that's fair, bad example on my part - but stretching the definition of computer to mean anything that can process data by itself is grossly misrepresenting what a computer means, like a phone is a computer is 100% accurate

idk maybe it's not so crazy to do

[rocky beacon]

A phone is a type of computer

[fervent lynx]

ye

that's accurate for the wordd

but a CPU by itself

that's too much of a stretch

guess it's more semantics than technological but if we don't have boundaries on what a computer is, then damn it all!!!

[vast meadow]

I've never heard someone call the cpu a computer, even ppl who don't know the term cpu might know the term processer or the brain or something

[fervent lynx]

to use raw semantics like saying "anything that computes is therefore a compute-r" is plain wrong for an established field of science, but yeah, first time I ever heard someone do that

I'm sure they were probably just trying to argue semantics for the sake of it, this isn't the first time

this is while remaining aware that the first defined computers weren't digital and were mere calculators

[vast meadow]

By that logic humans are also computers etc

[fervent lynx]

better analogy for this situation isn't a human

but the brain itself

by itself

[vast meadow]

Yeah

[fervent lynx]

can a brain function without blood? gain instructions by itself?

even with blood, to compare to electricity, without the other organs, it's useless, not a computer

human as a computer, that would make more sense in semantics, it's a system that communicates and functions by itself more than just a brain, despite needing oxygen and nutrients etc.

it's likke someone using synonyms for a wordd to ddescribe something with gross inaccuracy*

[winged mist]

does anyone have ddr4 4gb 2133mhz laptop ram

[devout moth]

Zen#5150 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Zen#5150 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[oak root]

Is this good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hfcjz7

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcLHHz i would do this

[oak root]

I’ve never seen that ssd

[vast meadow]

It's better than the 980 pro in almost everything

[oak root]

Okay thank you

[cyan raft]

Lmao before I joined this server I never heard of half the stuff that is recommended almost every day here

[dry relic]

What’s a good motherboard to buy for my intel i5 10600k, looking to spend around $165 maybe a little more?

[vast meadow]

I would save money and get an i5 11400 and b560 or spend bit extra and get 11600k and a z590

But z490 prime or something

[burnt spear]

Before I joined this server I didn't even know about intake and outtake for fans

[torn idol]

does the b450-f gaming mobo have a nvme slot

[vast meadow]

Yes but don't buy a b450 now, if you already thats fine, if not get a b550

[drowsy tiger]

Hey guys, getting whea logger error 19 on my pc (5950x 64gb ripjaws v)

Any tips on where to start troubleshooting this?

I’m running windows memory tests with my current xmp profile (no oc it’s default 3600mhz)

[vast meadow]

If it's getting errors at xmp, i would return the ram and buy a new kit

[drowsy tiger]

Hmm ok

I’ll let this test finish and see

[vast meadow]

1 error means it failed

[drowsy tiger]

Oh well it failed then lol

[vast meadow]

Yep

@drowsy tiger you did hit the xmp profile and not just set to 3600mhz right?

[drowsy tiger]

Yeah I used the stock xmp

[vast meadow]

Yep then fail

[drowsy tiger]

Oh well guess I’ll look for another kit

Also I had an issue with the cpu not boosting over 4.3 even with game boost

Is that expected? Bios says it’s running at 4.95 but after booting into@windows it says 4.3

[vast meadow]

Is task manager saying 4.3 or something else? Also game boost? Go into bios and enable precision boost overdrive

[vast meadow]

I would get 3600 ballistix

[drowsy tiger]

Thx for recommendation

[drowsy tiger]

I’ll look for pho

Pbo

[vast meadow]

👍

Np

[burnt spear]

So other than overclocking, is there any difference between 11700k and 11700 (other than power usage)?

Or any intel cpu and its overclockable counterpart that is

[vast meadow]

Nope but don't get an 11700(k) they are more expensive 10700(k)'s and sometimes worse

[burnt spear]

not planning on it was just curious

[vast meadow]

That's fine yeah, k means overclock, the only other diff is out of the box tdp i suppose and not coming with a stock cooler

[devout moth]

mhtanx#2766 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

mhtanx#2766 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[limber dragon]

damn, I wanted a csgo knife

[grizzled bloom]

Oh is that what they were spamming?

[limber dragon]

yes

[grizzled bloom]

Lol what a scam, send me stuff and you might get lucky and get a knife

Good thing we have @ everyone set as a bad word lol

[limber dragon]

also steancommunytiu is def 100% legit

[grizzled bloom]

Also I see you've retained some of your super mod powers despite being a lowly techie, kinda sus you know

[limber dragon]

just modified discord

[grizzled bloom]

[limber dragon]

not my fault discord prevents you from viewing deleted messages

[midnight pollen]

lol

[south mantle]

hi

[winter latch]

hello

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-martin-freeman-dr-watson-seems-legit-nod-gif-4879498

[grave jackal]

is intel i7-11700KF good?

[cyan raft]

It’s good but not that good value and is outdone by the 10700K

And pretty much Ryzen 5800x and above I’m pretty sure

[grave jackal]

how do i decide intel vs amd? are there any differences

[limber dragon]

Do you just game?

Xmp vs xmp most of the time amd wins, but its down to which games you play

[grizzled bloom]

It also depends which gpu you have if the extra 5% from the cpu is even worth anything

[cyan raft]

I don’t think I turned SAM on yet

[grizzled bloom]

With a potential for negative impact to fps why would you

Rage mode would be good if you have the requisite x570, 5000 cpu, and 6000 gpu

[vast meadow]

Ehh depends on budget if you should go intel or amd

[frigid surge]

Hi I would like to know if ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PRO can take 1 stick of 32G DDR4 3200; more specifically RIPJaws made by G.Skill?

[cyan raft]

What’s Rage mode?

I’m positive I have the requirements

[grave jackal]

yeah pretty much looking to build a pc for gaming, 1440p (60+ fps, raytracing and 120+ fps no RT)
I currently have a Aorus 3080 ti Xtreme but gonna sell/trade for a 3060ti, 3070 or 3080
as far as games, i'm pretty basic. I just play the popular games that my friends play (Warzone, Apex, Gears of War 5)

[vast meadow]

Yes but i would go 3600mhz cl16 ballistix or g skill instead

[cyan raft]

Why would you trade the GPU?

[frigid surge]

Too late -- already bought the RAM!!

[cyan raft]

You can return it

You’re losing performance by running ram in single channel

[grave jackal]

i got lucky in the shuffle and bought it to at least have a GPU but my budget was $1500, can stretch to $2000

[limber dragon]

If you're just at 120 fps, there wont be a difference

[cyan raft]

Personally I’d save up a bit more and keep the GPU but if you want to trade it for a lesser gpu+cash go for it

[frigid surge]

So Pato you are saying that it would...

[grave jackal]

yeah that's my min requirement, when will it matter? 200+ fps?

[grizzled bloom]

It's where AMD allows the cpu direct access to the gpu memory, reducing latency for a net gain in fps and smoothing lows out.
You'll need to enable resizeable BAR in b550 or x570 bios and enable rage mode in AMD driver software.

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok looks like I have to do that when I get home

[limber dragon]

Around the 200 range, but its down to memory performance at that point

[cyan raft]

I’m positive my Crosshair VIII Hero has it

[limber dragon]

You can rage mode on intel and without rebar

[grizzled bloom]

The re-bar I heard was a soft requirement but intel? That's news to me

[limber dragon]

Rebar is bios

Rage mode is drive and is completely different

Rage mode raises power limit, that's it

[grave jackal]

i thought about it but the card itself came out over $1800 tax included. That's my whole budget then would need another $500-1000 for the rest of my pc?

[limber dragon]

You might be thinking of SAM, which needs rebar and is unrelated to rage

[grizzled bloom]

I think you're right

[limber dragon]

SAM needs the pcie bandwidth of gen4, then the wider bits of rebar to be effective

[vast meadow]

Yes it will

[vast meadow]

Ohh well it will still work just a bit of missed potential

[frigid surge]

So Pato you are saying that it would... I already bought the RAM ... and then I face the RMA battle!!😫

[vast meadow]

It would yeah, don't bother then

[grizzled bloom]

Plus it seems rage is only on 6800XT and 6900XT right now

Changes fan speed curve too

[limber dragon]

Yeah, because it only raises power limits

[frigid surge]

Beautiful you made my day!!!

[limber dragon]

It might raise the fan curve, but I've only seen it do power limits

[vast meadow]

Np :)

[cyan raft]

Would a 750watt PSU be fine if it raises power limits? It’s a Aorus Master 6800xt

[vast meadow]

Tdp of the card is 300w so i suppose it depends how much extra you can oc it but it should be fine

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok

[grizzled bloom]

At least you don't have as high transient loads as nvidia

[quartz zinc]

is it ok to use the 10850k with the 3090?

cant afford the 10900k but i heard the 10850k was alright

[burnt spear]

4k I'm guessing?

@quartz zinc

[quartz zinc]

1440p

[vast meadow]

10850k is just as good as 10900k

[quartz zinc]

alr

thats good to hear

[vast meadow]

10900k is a poor buy since 10850k came out

[quartz zinc]

i cant bear with 60fps

[burnt spear]

Yeah you'll be fine