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burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:04 PM

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One sec I'll find the link

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It'll take a bit

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:06 PM

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B550M ac

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Is this a prebuilt or you build?

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In this screen you're on P.120, are you on 1.80 now?

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Also when you press the power button and it fails to boot, are any of the 4 red Post Status checker lights on? They're on the bottom edge of the MB near a fan header

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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That's the screen that I can go to, but its still booting right now

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I found the mB model in that picture

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B550m/ac

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Oh the post status checker lights are on

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Which one

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I dont have a glass panel so I can't see

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Ah, we need to see which one so we can figure out why it's hanging on POST

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Can I open it while it's on?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Of course

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:11 PM

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It looks like it's on a pwm connector

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Wait nk

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Yeah to the left of a fan header

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:11 PM

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elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:11 PM

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and to the right of a USB connector

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:12 PM

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The red there is where it's coming from

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Ya

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There are 4 lights

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need to see which one is on

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VGA, DRAM, CPU or BOOT

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:12 PM

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It's two to the right of a pwm connector

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Need to know which ones exactly, there is writing on the board above each light

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Give me a minute

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My desk isn't the biggest and my monitor is in the way

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:14 PM

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NO problem

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Dram and cpu are both on

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I forced shut off now, im guessing I have to reseat the ram?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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No, that means BIOS is having an issue with the CPU possibly. What BIOS version are you on again?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Idk

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Need to find out if possible

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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I'm gonna throw the other ram back in since I already have it open

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And I was planning on it anyways

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Dropping speed like that is a rather large performance decrease but OK

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Is this a prebuilt BTW?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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It was

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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From what company?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Skytech screwed me over so it's basically a custom build nkw

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Oh, is it a skytech motherboard?

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Same board?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Only things left from it are the 3000mhz ram, gpu, cpu, cpu fan, and wifi card

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Nah I got it off reddit

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Got it

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:18 PM

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As well as the 3600mhz ram

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The ram won't go in :/

devout mothBOT Jun 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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dior.#5084 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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dior.#5084 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Rip

vast meadow Jun 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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The slower ram should take slightly longer too boot

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Scammer

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Nah

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CPU and DRAM lights are on

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Something oofed in the BIOS

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Well if the ram won't go in ig I'll just leave it out

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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make sure you have the slot and the notch lined up

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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But I can't even get bios up

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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I'm reading the manual, we can get it to boot

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Just checking a couple things

vast meadow Jun 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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burnt spear Well if the ram won't go in ig I'll just leave it out

Probs need to rotate the ram 180°

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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burnt spear But I can't even get bios up

For now, remove power from the power supply

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unplug it

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Remove the button cell battery for 1-2 minutes

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reinstall the battery, plug the PC back in and boot it up to the BIOS

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While you do that, I'll check the manual for notes

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Wait

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When I plugged it back in and pressed the power button it turned back on immediately

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Red lights turned off

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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good

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Get into the BIOS and check the version

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Give me a minute

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I'd also like to set everything back to defaults and ONLY turn on XMP since yo manually played with ram speeds before

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Gotta turn it back off I let it boot to the password screen

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Just get to Windows and restart from the login screen

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Alr doing that

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Bruh

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The red lights back back on

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And its not booting

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Ya

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take out the CMOS battery

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after you unplug it from the wall

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reset everything to default

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Can't get the battery out

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The round one right,

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?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Yes, there is a vertical metal tab

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Push it away from the holder

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Yeah

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Battery pops up

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Battery won't pop up

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Oh it did a while ago

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I'm just stupid

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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LOL!

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Alr I put it back in since it's been a while

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I've had that happen before

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wait

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Just popped up isn't enough

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Oop

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Needs to be physically removed

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1-2 minutes

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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Got it up again

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Can't get it out

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Nails aren't long enough

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Use a knife or tweezers or fingernail file or something?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Alr

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Got it out

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And having it out for 1-2min resets bios?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:32 PM

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let er chill for a couple minutes

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Yes it clears the settings

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Then boot back to BIOS and check version

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Alr

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Ig I'll use this time to clean it

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Oh ffs

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Ran out of compressed air

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It's been about 3min am I good to throw it back in?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Ya

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:35 PM

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Alr turning back on

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The red lights came right back on

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Oh fun now irs different lights

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Vga and boot

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I got into bios though

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Oh the lights went off when the boot menu came up

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Yeah

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It's normal for the lights to go on and off while you boot

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it's when they stay on and no boot there's an issue

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Where do I check the bios version again?

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Oh p1. 20

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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main screen top left?

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Ahhhh

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It would be worth an update IMO

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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It's the b550m/ax

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/ac

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Not az

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Ya

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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God-

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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I got that from the pic

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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I hate phone keyboards

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Thought I updated it, guess I didn't do it right

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Go to WIndows and grab the BIOS file and put it on a USB stick https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550Mac/index.asp#BIOS

ASRock B550M/ac

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 3000, 4000 G-Series and 5000 Series Desktop Processors*; Supports DDR4 4733+ (OC); 1 x PCIe 4.0 x16, 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16, 1 x PCIe 3.0 x1; Graphics Output Options: HDMI; 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC1200 Audio Codec), Nahimic Audio; 4 x SATA3, 1 x Hyper M.2 (PCIe Gen4 x4); 8 x USB 3.2 Gen1 (4 x ...

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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How should I do it?

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Ah

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Don't update it from within Windows

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Put it on a USB drive and do it from within the BIOS

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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I dont really have something to pull it off with because my laptop is fully reset

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Unzip it

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Do it on this machine

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Eh my brother can deal with me using his

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Oh boot it up fully?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Sure

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Should I turn on xmp?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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nah

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Do that after the update

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Also can I close the case?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Not yet

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IN case we run into issues again

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Lights are coming back on

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Cpu and ram again

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Staying on?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Thought they were, they went back off

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Yes, that's normal

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Lights will come on and go off while it boots

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It's only an issue if they stay on and you don't boot

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Thought it was done booting mb

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Lrts see if I can find a USB stick lmao

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Got one

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Is 8gb enough?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Yeah once you do, DL the file. it will be zipped. Unzip it. Take the B550MAC.80 file out and put it on the USB drive. Reboot to BIOS and update from there

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8 GB more than enough

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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not giving me an option to unzip

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oh its letting me extract

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Yeah, extract/unzip same same

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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it only gives me the option to unzip to c drive

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not even my external, let alone flash

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nevermind im stupid, ignore that

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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It's fine

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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its extracting to the flash drive now

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Well

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You need to take the file out of the folder

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and put it on the flash drive

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when it's done

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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its a zip in the flash drive still

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even tho i extracted it to the flash drive instead of just transfered it

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wait maybe it copied both to it?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Right click - Extract All

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Take the file out of the folder and put it on the root of the drive

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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it has both of those

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:46 PM

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Is the .80 drive on the root of the USB, IE you open the USB drive and it's there?

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Or is it still in a folder?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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its on the root of it

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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It's fine then

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reboot

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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alr

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Go to BIOS

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update from there

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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as in restart with windows?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Yes

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Go into BIOS

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Tool tab

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:47 PM

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alr one sec

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Instant flash

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:48 PM

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im deleting a ton of files on it in case something messes it up

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not a ton maybe 2gb worth

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alr restarting lets hope this works this time

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Alr back in bios

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How do I update from bios?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Tool Tab

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Instant flash

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Alr it's updating

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Am I good to close the case or could smthn still mess up?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Leave it open until we are done

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Kk

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Once it's updated, should I boot it to make sure it's working correctly or can I turn on xmp right after

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:53 PM

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It'll restart

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Ah

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:53 PM

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go back into BIOS

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check to be sure version is 1.8

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Kk

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:54 PM

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if it is, turn on XMP again

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save and exit

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Any testing I should do after that?

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:54 PM

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See if it boots without lights staying on

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Rebooting now

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It ignored me pressing delete

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Oh because it isn't registering my keyboard as plugged in

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Restarting agaib

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Ffs it won't see my keyboard as on until it boots fully

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Are you plugged into the front panel USB?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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No

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Got it finally

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Yeah p1. 80

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Turned on xmp booting it now

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Noice

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Thank whatever god is out there

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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We good?

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I think so

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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SAweet

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Thank you so much for all the help

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And for the time

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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YW

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Ah, it's why we are here

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😉

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Oh wow that also helped my Temps

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It was getting over 70 even idling for whatever reason, sitting at 54 now

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As in those Temps after the new ram speed

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Probably the bios reset

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Yeah

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Still putting in the new fan when it gets here, leaves room for overclocking

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Absolutely

burnt spear Jun 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Gets here tmrw at 10 so lucky me gets to open it up again

elfin warren Jun 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Lol!!!

devout mothBOT Jun 12, 2021, 9:25 PM

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BullBoii#7864 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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BullBoii#7864 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

leaden mirage Jun 12, 2021, 10:37 PM

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One of my sticks died and thinking of getting a new kit with a lower latency, rn the one is running 3733 at cl16, think it's worth getting a trident z neo at 3600, cl 14 and then oc'ing it to 3733?

fading mauve Jun 12, 2021, 11:00 PM

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i hope my pc will work when i get the new board

hollow thorn Jun 12, 2021, 11:35 PM

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leaden mirage One of my sticks died and thinking of getting a new kit with a lower latency, rn...

Remember, mixing sticks runs at the lowest speed and highest latency between them

vast meadow Jun 12, 2021, 11:35 PM

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leaden mirage One of my sticks died and thinking of getting a new kit with a lower latency, rn...

Not cl14 really worth the premium for most people tbh, if you haven't oc'd ram before I'd say don't bother

vast meadow Jun 12, 2021, 11:36 PM

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hollow thorn Remember, mixing sticks runs at the lowest speed and highest latency between the...

And not guaranteed to work, but sounded like they wanted to throw out/sell the working stick

hollow thorn Jun 12, 2021, 11:36 PM

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They said one stick so I thought they're keeping the rest, not sure

fading mauve Jun 12, 2021, 11:43 PM

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@vast meadow sorry for the tag if i putted my old hardrive in if 7 didn’t boot is there a way to put windows on

vast meadow Jun 12, 2021, 11:45 PM

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fading mauve <@!191276897227898880> sorry for the tag if i putted my old hardrive in if 7 did...

Yeah, don't see why it wouldn't but as long as you got a different pc and a usb stick ye, windows media creation tool

leaden mirage Jun 12, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Was just gonna toss the stick or give it to a friend who only has one 4gb stick that they could just throw in a drawer, but ig one just came loose by sitting on the floor since it’s working now after I reseated both

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 12:14 AM

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i think msi bios has windows

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f11 i think goes into recovery

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 12:17 AM

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No motherboard BIOS has Windows

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 2:07 AM

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really

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 2:07 AM

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no, WIndows is on a hard drive or SSD

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BIOS can hold about 20 MB of information, nowhere near enough for an operating system

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 8:11 AM

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ey yow is i7-11700 with b560 tomahawk nd hyperx 3200 cl16 has no issues or smthn?

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and if anyone here has that cpu what's the max power draw? can't find a bigtime reviewer reviewing that cpu

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:36 AM

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brazen crater ey yow is i7-11700 with b560 tomahawk nd hyperx 3200 cl16 has no issues or smthn...

are you asking if those parts are compatible?

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because if that is what you intended on asking, then yes they are

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:38 AM

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brazen crater and if anyone here has that cpu what's the max power draw? can't find a bigtime ...

should be 130W max

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maybe 135

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:42 AM

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it'll go well over that

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without pl

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:43 AM

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11700k peaks at 150

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:43 AM

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no it doesn't

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11700 PL2 is 224W, and it'll hit that

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anandtech had the 11700K hit 300W

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iirc

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:44 AM

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Oh yep

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I didnt scroll low enough

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:44 AM

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anyways, the 11700 is a stupid cpu

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don't know why anyone would buy one

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:45 AM

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celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:45 AM

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yup

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stupid power consumption

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10700K and 9900K were like 200W, 11700K? 300W.

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:46 AM

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5800x looking great

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:46 AM

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at least it isn't the 11900K with ABT, that's like uhm 390W

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:46 AM

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SHEESH!

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:47 AM

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https://youtu.be/05v3z3psTSw?t=1173

YouTube

Toppc Lin

INTEL 11代處理器選購要領~CPU規格及效能篇

INTEL 11代處理器選購要領 CPU規格及效能篇

完整解說新一代CPU各種上下限
10/11代不同cpu在設計上的差異

▶ Play video

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I wish I was pulling that out of my ass

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:48 AM

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388W

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HOLY

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thats more than many GPUs

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:48 AM

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So yeah, 11900K no ABT is 89C 282.6W, with ABT it's 388.44W 114.5C

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tested by toppc himself

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:50 AM

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shouldnt go over 130-140 while gaming tho right?

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:50 AM

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oh it will

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these chips are hungry

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the bad gaming IPC makes them really need to suck down power

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:51 AM

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even with all that power draw they still suck lmao

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:51 AM

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yup

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if they were on 10nm they'd be great

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Intel would have been able to do another 10 core

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That pulled less power, had more mt, st and slightly better gaming perf

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:52 AM

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other than the 11th gen i5s intel doesnt make any sense to buy this year

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:52 AM

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Intel should have just pulled tgl R0 and made that the 11900K

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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even the 11600k isnt a great deal because with a mobo added, the 5600x turns out cheaper

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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tgl R0 as the 11900K would make it a good chip

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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and still clocks the 11600k

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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vernal cosmos even the 11600k isnt a great deal because with a mobo added, the 5600x turns out...

5600x is also faster

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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vernal cosmos and still clocks the 11600k

yep

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:54 AM

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I don't know why Intel hasn't just thrown tgl R0 into an lga1200 form factor, they could do it

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:54 AM

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From what GN tested an overclocked 11600k barely keeps up with stock 5600x

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:55 AM

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it'd get close ish

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I really want to see a gaming bench of the 11900KB, that thing will probably beat everything in games

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:55 AM

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5600x beats 11600k in rdr2 as well

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and thats a game that favours intel

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heavily

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:55 AM

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celest anchor I really want to see a gaming bench of the 11900KB, that thing will probably bea...

yee

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:55 AM

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no it doesn't

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vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Ahh yep my bad

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I stand corrected

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 8:57 AM

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rdr2 is just very latency intensive

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hence why the 10400f beats the 11900k in it

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Ahhh I see

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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vernal cosmos are you asking if those parts are compatible?

yes ty bro and uh can I that cpus full potential? without buying a z variant mobo?

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it's not a K so I guess b560 iz fine

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:11 AM

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brazen crater it's not a K so I guess b560 iz fine

Yeah if it's non k b560 is fine as long as it's a mid range like asus tuf r something

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Cuz b560 is a mess thanks to intels specs

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:11 AM

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b560 tomahawk to be exact

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:12 AM

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celest anchor without pl

wait what's PL?

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:12 AM

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power liimt

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:14 AM

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celest anchor anyways, the 11700 is a stupid cpu

why doe

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:14 AM

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price point

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:16 AM

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wanted a 5800x but it's OP af

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brub it's 500 in usd

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:19 AM

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11700 is dumb because of the chips that are cheaper then it

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:19 AM

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5800x be 450 tho

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:19 AM

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msrp?

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

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But yeah you could get 10700/10850k for that

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

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hmm wait lemme see

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

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brazen crater msrp?

Ye and retailing for

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

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I'm seeing the 5800x at $421

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10850k is $399 though

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brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

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bruh am from asia

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PH to be exact

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:23 AM

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don't convert currencies then

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:23 AM

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aight

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I just want the best of my money

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:23 AM

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^ prices are diff in diff reasons and tax in US isn't included in price etc

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:24 AM

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for school nd casual gaming

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:25 AM

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@brazen crater how much in Philippines currency do you want to spend

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:25 AM

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coz schools comin

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100k

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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On just the cpu?

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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no tf

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oh ok for the cpu 20

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below

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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brazen crater no tf

i tot the whole system

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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And what price would 11700 be?

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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my bad

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19

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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That's fine lol

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:26 AM

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19k

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nd mobo (b560 tomahawk) is like 8

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

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I'd say get 10700 for 16k

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

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k or not

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its over 20 doe

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Non k is 16

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

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wait

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:28 AM

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https://ph.pcpartpicker.com/

Pick parts. Build your PC. Compare and share.

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https://ph.pcpartpicker.com/product/dLK2FT/intel-core-i7-10700-29-ghz-8-core-processor-bx8070110700

Intel Core i7-10700 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor

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Okay well 16.8k but

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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bruh 10700kKF for 17

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Up to you

devout mothBOT Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Cyser0#3018 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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ow shoot

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srry

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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F has no integrated graphics tho

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:29 AM

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yes

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my plan is also to wait for the gpu prices to come at a reasonable price so def have an igpu

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:31 AM

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So don't get any f chip then

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:34 AM

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EY YOWWW

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Intel Core i7-10700 for 17.2?

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patos gone

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:42 AM

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brazen crater Intel Core i7-10700 for 17.2?

Went for shower rq

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 AM

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bruh just found a 15.9 10700 on a local site

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 AM

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vast meadow https://ph.pcpartpicker.com/product/dLK2FT/intel-core-i7-10700-29-ghz-8-core-pro...

There's 1 here for 16.8k

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 AM

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brazen crater bruh just found a 15.9 10700 on a local site

Oh nice

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 AM

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so what would be the mobo?

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z or eh

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 AM

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If getting non k just a b560

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:44 AM

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aight so b560 tomahawk den

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still needs bios right

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update*

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:45 AM

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Nope

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No bios update needed

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What price is the tomahawk?

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:46 AM

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9

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so less than 25 for cpu-mobo hehe

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Ahh that looks good then the mobos on pcpp is meh

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Yeah you can always get from newegg if the local out of stock r sum

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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any vid comparin 10700k nd non k?

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Ehhh no diff unless overclocked

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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or it has smol or negligible differences

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Negligible out of the box

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Small difference if overclocked

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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it can be big with power limits

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 AM

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heck nah

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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maybe when below 200 watts

celest anchor Jun 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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30% faster both power limited

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otherwise, negligible

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:49 AM

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but eh I think dis 10700 will do just fine

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with igpu too

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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Yeah but b560 tomahawk wont have power limits so will be fine

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Or will be able to remove easy

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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brazen crater but eh I think dis 10700 will do just fine

It will ye

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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noice won't be havin problems den

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:50 AM

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brazen crater but eh I think dis 10700 will do just fine

for like 2-3 yrs

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should i opt for a 750 psu while waitin for a gpu or no

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:51 AM

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3-5 probs

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What gpu you want

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 AM

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3080 kekw

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 AM

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I'd go 850w then

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:52 AM

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hmm

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I think 500 watts will do me just fine nd will buy a new psu when I buy a gpu

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an ok move or no

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:53 AM

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brazen crater I think 500 watts will do me just fine nd will buy a new psu when I buy a gpu

Nana no point buying twice, will be more expensive

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 12:05 PM

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vast meadow Nana no point buying twice, will be more expensive

wanted seasonic but no 850 only 750availabe, found a coolermaster of 850

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reviews say it's bad nd stuff so kinda worried

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Cooler Master MWE GOLD 850 FULL MODULAR V2

vagrant mist Jun 13, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Tier B, Id go for something better

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Revolution Df, phanteks amp are two good ones

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 12:59 PM

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can't find any in local sites/stores

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bruh

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vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 1:06 PM

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brazen crater

They just got a faulty unit or something lol, the cables being stiff is a good thing, i can vouch for the revolution df it's been perfect

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:06 PM

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I see I see

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oi is this white variant of seasonic gx 850 good or eh

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cant find blacccc

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nvm, made my mind goin for seasonic gx850

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ty @vast meadow

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 1:18 PM

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brazen crater ty <@!191276897227898880>

Np

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Seasonic gx also v good choice

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:18 PM

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ok the reason why I want 11th gen coz of pcie 4.0 that's prolly it the rest eh

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pcie slot for gpu in b560 is in pcie 3.0 right

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 1:20 PM

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You will see literally no noticeable difference between the 2

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:22 PM

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exactly

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:23 PM

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brazen crater pcie slot for gpu in b560 is in pcie 3.0 right

I guess am right

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 1:23 PM

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I run my 3070 pcie 3.0 no difference between mine and vintages for example

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And vintages is pcie 4.0

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:23 PM

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vintages?

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like old?

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 1:23 PM

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Vintage's

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Like the mod

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 1:23 PM

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context

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oh

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reviewer

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sooo in msi's website it's in gen 4 but if I install a 10th gen cpu it will automatically be a gen 3?

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lane

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nd stuff

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Yeah afaik

obsidian spoke Jun 13, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Can anyone help, please? I'm looking for 8 GB DDR3L SDRAM memory, but all I can find is DDR3L SODIMM. This is for a laptop.

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 4:11 PM

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obsidian spoke Can anyone help, please? I'm looking for 8 GB DDR3L SDRAM memory, but all I can ...

Sodimm is the correct form factor for most laptops afaik, what laptop is it?

obsidian spoke Jun 13, 2021, 4:14 PM

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HP Pavilion Notebook 15-ab259nr N5R55UA

cursive epoch Jun 13, 2021, 4:55 PM

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sdram is just the interface lol

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but it is indeed sodimm

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so it should work

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 5:15 PM

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i just hope my old hardrive can boot into 7

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Old drive with a new motherboard and CPU?

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Probs not

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Unless it's the exact same motherboard

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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it’s the same cpu i was dealing with a dell mobo i will be getting a msi board with the same cpu

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Then it probably won't boot due to different motherboards and river requirements

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I'd plan for a reinstall

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CPU doesn't matter, motherboard does

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 5:40 PM

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i can use my windows 7 disk and upgrade to 10

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 7:14 PM

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if that works Vintage

hardy moon Jun 13, 2021, 7:30 PM

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fading mauve i can use my windows 7 disk and upgrade to 10

I’d just copy down the windows 7 activation code for it, then install windows 10 using a usb then put in the code

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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i thought i needed the windows 10 key @hardy moon

hardy moon Jun 13, 2021, 8:56 PM

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fading mauve i thought i needed the windows 10 key <@!403698294892789780>

Windows 7 key should work too

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:57 PM

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hardy moon Windows 7 key should work too

Not any more

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That thing ended a while back right?

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 8:57 PM

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dang

vernal cosmos Jun 13, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Its worth a try tho tbh

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 8:59 PM

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yeah if my hardrive boots to 7 i can install 10

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which will probably be the home edition

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that’s a other way Ness

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 9:09 PM

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fading mauve i thought i needed the windows 10 key <@!403698294892789780>

You don't need to activate windows tbh you just gotta deal with the default windows background

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 9:34 PM

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oh

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i am still going to do it

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 10:42 PM

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upgrade from lga 1155 @vast meadow one up

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 10:45 PM

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nice

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 10:48 PM

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i am going to do it will is this a newer board

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Do you have an 1151 CPU?

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 10:55 PM

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no i have a 1155 i found a 1151 with with fan and cpu

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like i am going for it

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 10:57 PM

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What cpu do you have vs what's in that board though? Just because newer doesn't always mean better. 😉

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 10:59 PM

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lga 1155 3470

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Right but what CPU is in that motherboard combo?

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:23 PM

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i just msg him

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to ask what cpu is in there

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:33 PM

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Ey yow intel cant handle quadchannel

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Their site said its only 2 max ram stix or eh

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:37 PM

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oh should i stick to my current socket

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1155

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:38 PM

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brazen crater Their site said its only 2 max ram stix or eh

That doesn't mean only 2 sticks will work, you can do multiple sticks per channel

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:39 PM

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yeah

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i had a motherboard with 2 memory slots

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Mem channels not = mem sticks

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:40 PM

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It can go up to 3200mhz right

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Ah bruh loool

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2 chanels is 4 sloyta

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Slots

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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brazen crater 2 chanels is 4 sloyta

Not always, I've seen some dual channel compatible things with only one slot

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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Well it could technically be 6 or something but yes but no, it can be 2 or 4 usually

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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grizzled bloom Not always, I've seen some dual channel compatible things with only one slot

.......

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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The speed doe

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:41 PM

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vast meadow .......

Yep, that was about my reaction too

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:42 PM

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But you cant dual channel when there's one slot lol

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:42 PM

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i don’t have a pc

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just a dam i mac

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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Mac be a pc lol

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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Ur fine

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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vast meadow But you cant dual channel when there's one slot lol

Ye doe

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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older 2012

vast meadow Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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fading mauve just a dam i mac

Pc=personal computer which the mac is lol

brazen crater Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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fading mauve older 2012

Ow

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:43 PM

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yeah mac os mountain lion

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very old

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i will get to get my pc working again

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:45 PM

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brazen crater The speed doe

On Intel max memory speed is determined by both the CPU and the chipset of the motherboard. Prior to the new 500 series, you needed a Z motherboard to run faster memory, but if you got a locked processor (non k) your memory speed could still be limited on a Z board. The same is true in reverse, a "k" processor on a non "z" chipset would be limited in speed too.
Intel makes you pay the overclock tax. Even though there's literally no real reason to. Even XMP memory speeds are treated as overclocking on Intel.

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:46 PM

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should i buy that board tuesday @grizzled bloom

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i have ddr3 sticks

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i can’t play any games

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Depends on what CPU is in that board. 3470 is no slouch and the H110M will need DDR4

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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fading mauve upgrade from lga 1155 <@!191276897227898880> one up

This one? It's DDR4 only iirc

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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So you'll need to buy RAM at the least

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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yikes

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Need to know what CPU is in in though since it's not listed

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Might be a celeron

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Might be a 6700K or something

grizzled bloom Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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H110m seems to be limited to DDR4-2133

elfin warren Jun 13, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Ye

fading mauve Jun 13, 2021, 11:49 PM

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i will stick with 1155

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the one for $109 has 4 ddr3 slots

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will be 8gigs

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i think

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@grizzled bloom

burnt spear Jun 13, 2021, 11:59 PM

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i think everything is working
gonna test it at full load

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 12:02 AM

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i am like meh

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 12:53 AM

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what do you think Fal

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Not worth the price imo

limber dragon Jun 14, 2021, 12:54 AM

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4c/4t ddr3 should be a lot cheaper

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like 2500Ks are $20

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 12:54 AM

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best offer

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 12:55 AM

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I could get a 16c/32t xeon in a full PC for around $100

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 12:55 AM

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what can i find

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 12:56 AM

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You said you're looking at which socket again? 1155?

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 12:58 AM

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or a upgrade

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with cpu

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Ok I'll take a look and see what I can find

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:01 AM

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yeah next gen

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4th gen

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is ddr3

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grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 1:12 AM

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i3 4160 is one of the worst processors of the generation

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:15 AM

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oh

#

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it does support ddr3

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fal

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hmm

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Your 3470 is still faster

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 1:28 AM

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The chipset itself supports DDR3 or DDR4 but the motherboard will only support one or the other, it's a physical limitation

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:29 AM

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ok if i can unscrew the dell cpu fan

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it does have a Proprietary connection to the motherboard

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i can buy thermal paste for the $109 board i can offer $80 swap that cpu out and put the 3470 in

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 1:33 AM

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That would work

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:34 AM

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it’s local i can swap it out for my cpu

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it has windows 10 drivers

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i will do this one and switch cpu with mine

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it has 4 memory ports

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it will be 3 times faster Fal

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 1:38 AM

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3 times faster than what?

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:38 AM

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3450 cpu

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 1:38 AM

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The 3470?

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:39 AM

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it has a 3450 in that board

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 1:39 AM

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3470 isn't a whole lot faster than a 3450, just a little bit

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 1:39 AM

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ok

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i have not used my pc in a week so far

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anything will do

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the ones that press i have to unscrew mine to get it out

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tuesday morning i am getting it

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should i leave that cpu in rather then switching Vintage

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Is this ram alright to run with hp 3600mhz? https://www.newegg.com/oloy-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821319?item=N82E16820821319

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Planning on grabbing 2

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Depends on what speed your existing ram is?

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:32 AM

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It's 3600mhz

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Both 3600mhz kits

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Do you know the timings on the current kit? Like C16 or C18?

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Also @elfin warren my 3600 went from 9122 to 9338 with the se-224 xt multi core

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Not a clue

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Ye ye

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Lower temps = higher clock speeds

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Is 9338 average for a 3600?

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Still seems a little low for multu core but idk cinebench well

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Ya, 9300 is where it should be in Cinebench

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Oh sick

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Doing single core now

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Let me see if I can find the timings on the ram one sec

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The hp ram is cl18

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Ok, that Oloy should be fine then, same speed and timings

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Sick

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Got 2 for 70$ with the discount

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Cost 20 $ to upgrade to 600mhz faster ram

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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elfin warren Ok, that Oloy should be fine then, same speed and timings

The fan was annoying af to put on

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Yeah the clips can suck

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I dropped the heatsink and it bent in two places but I fixed it mostly, and it wasn't that bad

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Needle nose pliers ftw

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Wasn't that

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The back plate kept moving

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Had to have my brother hold it with a screw driver through the hole

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Ohhhh, I installed mine new outside the case

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Yeah with it being added it was awful

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Somehow I didn't break the mobo even after i dropped an 8 ounce acrew driver on it

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Hopefully I put enough thermal paste on, I think I did but first time doing it on I kinda just guessed lmao

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Pea sized drop

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If temps are fine, it's fine

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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I did smthn close to that in the center and then some small dots towards the corners

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah you're fine

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I saw you mentioned a 15C drop at full load

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah about that

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Sounds great to me

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Though the bios update also helped

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That dropped it another 10 lmao

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:42 AM

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sweet

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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Thank you so much for all the help and the time

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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X method best method

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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burnt spear Thank you so much for all the help and the time

Welcome!

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 2:43 AM

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But thermal paste is thermal paste, if it works, it works

burnt spear Jun 14, 2021, 2:44 AM

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That was it btw

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Tiny compared to the se

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1234 on single core, barely above the 7700k mark in here

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 2:48 AM

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hollow thorn X method best method

Spreading > X pattern by 0.2 degrees

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 3:21 AM

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grizzled bloom Spreading > X pattern by 0.2 degrees

hey, x method best lazy method

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Well there a nice asterisk* for you

formal ice Jun 14, 2021, 4:31 AM

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those clips are annoying

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:28 AM

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grizzled bloom On Intel max memory speed is determined by both the CPU and the chipset of the m...

But I think it by enabling xmp will do just fine

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:28 AM

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brazen crater But I think it by enabling xmp will do just fine

XMP above 2666 doesnt work for i5s on a b460 or lower board

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:29 AM

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brazen crater But I think it by enabling xmp will do just fine

Sure but if your platform is limited to 2133 or 2666 enabling XMP only tightens the timings slightly

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:29 AM

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10700, b560

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:29 AM

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b560 allows memory OC

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you should see no problems

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:29 AM

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We were talking about pre-500 chipsets

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:30 AM

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10700, said on their website (intel) its only 2900ish speed

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2933 to be exact

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:30 AM

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CPU speed specs dont matter as much

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ignore them

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Aight good to know

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Ok. That still doesn't apply to the H110M we were talking about before. The 560+ chipsets are different, I already acknowledged that.

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Ah okay so I will not see any issues with ram speeds then

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Kinda calms my mind

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ssadge

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Correct. B560 allows you to OC memory as much as you like, including XMP.

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Falcie whats the max that a 10700 should handle

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ram speed wise?

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4000mhz ish?

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more?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Do you want the literal or practical answer?

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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real world

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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4400

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:32 AM

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dang

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:33 AM

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brazen crater

Y 2933 here doe

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Weird

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:33 AM

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brazen crater Y 2933 here doe

ignore

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Wait so the guys having b460 mobos didn't oc their mems?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Many modern boards you can simply enable an XMP profile for 4400 and the bios handles the rest, including ring ratio and base clock

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:34 AM

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brazen crater Wait so the guys having b460 mobos didn't oc their mems?

Correct, that's why every tech on the server recommended B560 over B460 the minute it launched

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:34 AM

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Makes sense

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:35 AM

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That was Intel's response to AMD allowing overclocking of every kind on all CPUs and motherboards

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:35 AM

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That's kinda lame like tf why

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But 7nm processors when

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That would be lit tho brainlet

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Intel traditionally charged more for "k" sku processors and "z" series motherboards, which were both required to overclock.
Now that AMD caught up to (and surpassed) Intel, they have to attract more of the market their way again.

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:37 AM

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maybe lessen the power consumption ThinkingEgg

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:38 AM

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A series allows mem OC but not CPU OC yeah?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:38 AM

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The next Intel chips seem to be 10nm, and they look promising so far. Intel measures gate size differently than AMD does, so Intel 10nm is more like AMD 7nm.

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:38 AM

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releasing it on Q4 dis year?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:39 AM

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brazen crater releasing it on Q4 dis year?

No they just launched their 11 series this year, 12 will be next year sometime maybe

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They still have to work out the kinks with DDR5 and such

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:40 AM

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That would be cool

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:40 AM

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vernal cosmos A series allows mem OC but not CPU OC yeah?

Officially, yes, but mods allow for CPU overclocking

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Ahh yep makes sense

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Obv am not an old dude or an adult but did the ddr4 ram pricec back in the day insane or reasonable

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prices*

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Depends

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at the time it was reasonable

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looking back it was insane

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:41 AM

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2014? Or 15

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:42 AM

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don remember year

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Ah ok

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:42 AM

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When DDR4 launched every kind of memory spiked in price, especially once AM4 launched. Even DDR3 doubled in price for some reason.

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Dang

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So I guess its better for like after 3 gens to switch into a new platf

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Whaaa?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Personally, yeah I'm skipping the first gen on DDR5

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I might go second gen

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Stucc between waiting on am5/12th gen ddr5 stuff or just get a pc dis year

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Yeah 2nd or 3rd might be good

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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The first DDR5 chips will be about as fast as the best DDR4 chips. They will only improve from there. That's how it always has been.

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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AHHH THOSE MEMORY GEN

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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grizzled bloom The first DDR5 chips will be about as fast as the best DDR4 chips. They will onl...

Ey yow noice

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Im stupid nvm

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Nah its ok

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:44 AM

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vernal cosmos Im stupid nvm

The topic did switch pretty fast

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:45 AM

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I wonder if many peeps will goto ddr5 as it launches

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:45 AM

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My brain no do thinking fast rn

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Imma go get coffee

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Sleep

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Just woke up

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Not in the US time zone^

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Guessing ur from US

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Oh

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:46 AM

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Nop

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I live in asia and live by eu time

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he

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he

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:47 AM

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central asia den

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Coz its near to eu

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:47 AM

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Good guess with this being a US based server, I'm west coast so I'm up for a couple more hours

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:47 AM

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Cali doood

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Im up for 17 more hours

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maybe 18

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Bruh if ddr5 nd stuff is coming out later this year then we will have pcie 5.0 too or no

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Next year*

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:50 AM

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PCIe 5.0 spec is already out

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It's just up to Intel and AMD to add support to their chipsets now, and it's looking like second gen boards will likely support it

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:50 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-13712192

Tenor

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2nd gen boards? Wait wdym

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Not the next gen processors, but the motherboards that come with the ones after that

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The next next gen

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Ah ok get it

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So prolly in a 3 yrs from now

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23-4

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Oh BTW PCIe 6.0 is already in final spec process, it's just waiting for ratification from the board

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As of November

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Dang tfw pcie 4.0 is short lived

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 5:54 AM

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No kidding, it's looking like maybe 3 chipset generations will have support. And we're not even done saturating a 3.0 x16 link for graphics yet.

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Yes yes

limber dragon Jun 14, 2021, 6:00 AM

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isnt alder lake supposed to do pcie5?

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Will the next gen gpus be in PCIE5?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:01 AM

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limber dragon isnt alder lake supposed to do pcie5?

Last I heard they were delaying it due to issues with trace length compatibility

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Sapphire Rapids (Xeon) they were testing with back in October, and from what I can tell it's back on track for Alder Lake so you're right

limber dragon Jun 14, 2021, 6:07 AM

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trace length is a simple fix

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:07 AM

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brazen crater Will the next gen gpus be in PCIE5?

There's no reason to, we can barely saturate pcie 3.0 x16, not to mention pcie 4.0 x16, unless they want to add more gimmicks, GPUs won't need pcie 5.0 for a bit

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 6:08 AM

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kekw

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So just good ol marketing ey

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:08 AM

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hollow thorn There's no reason to, we can barely saturate pcie 3.0 x16, not to mention pcie 4...

Well, technically with the increased available bandwidth you can run more GPUs with the same number of lanes

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As well as other parts that share lanes

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:11 AM

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grizzled bloom Well, technically with the increased available bandwidth you can run more GPUs w...

I mean, we are still at the point of basically barely using pcie 4.0 x8 at max

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And also, that's one of the server/hedt platform things, just straight up more lanes

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Sure but that also means you can run the same GPU on 5.0 x4 without saturating, allowing more lanes for nvme or other stuff

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Though it'd be interesting if they can modify the m.2 slot to take 8 lanes

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:13 AM

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More likely they'd do drives that perform like good gen 4 drives, but take half the lanes in gen 5 mode

brazen crater Jun 14, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Hmm

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:14 AM

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A Chia farmer's best friend now that I think about it

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Everything cool till people make ramdrives on high capacity DDR5

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:15 AM

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At that point you'd get m.2 pcie cards

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Those that can use a x16 slot

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Hey what do you think I'd be doing with 2TB of DDR5-9000

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Tightening timings

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Nah that would be my game drive right there lol

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Lol

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It's going to be what, 512gb a dimm?

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Even better, have my server sit close enough to use a 100Gb link effectively and use the server as my game drive, with no overhead on the gaming PC

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 6:17 AM

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grizzled bloom Hey what do you think I'd be doing with 2TB of DDR5-9000

thats like 2 warzone installs

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Lol

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:19 AM

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hollow thorn It's going to be what, 512gb a dimm?

16 LRDIMMs, 128GB each

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For the theoretical max of 2TB on a single Xeon/Epyc processor

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(Oops forgot the dies are stacked on the LRDIMM so it's 8 sticks with extra height on each for 256GB)

vernal cosmos Jun 14, 2021, 6:23 AM

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Didnt samsung confirm 512GB dimms

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for ddr5

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:25 AM

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grizzled bloom 16 LRDIMMs, 128GB each

Oh you're talking what already exists, though we were talking about ddr5 things :p

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:27 AM

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Lol ok I'm a little behind on the new stuff, but this is not consumer grade stuff

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:55 AM

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vernal cosmos for ddr5

1024GB

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DDR5 will do 1TiB dimms

timber bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:56 AM

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the costs though

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:57 AM

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it's nothing for servers

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otherwise they wouldn't already be using 256GB ddr4 dimms

timber bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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True

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but for the average consumer

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kinda unneccesary

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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well yeah, no average consumer buys registered memory

timber bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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Well ECC is becoming a norm soon

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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celest anchor well yeah, no average consumer buys registered memory

Every stick of DDR5 will be ECC tho

timber bloom Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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AMD is adopting some forms of it

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:58 AM

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And unregistered ddr4 goes to 32GB sticks and DDR5 128GB

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It's a different kind of ECC

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It's not the same as proper ecc that includes another chip

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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grizzled bloom Every stick of DDR5 will be ECC tho

Not quite

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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That'll still be a separate thing

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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It's on-die ecc

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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The ECC we are getting is like what is already present on GDDR6

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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The weird stuff

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Video explanation:
https://youtu.be/XGwcPzBJCh0

YouTube

TechTechPotato

Why DDR5 does NOT have ECC (by default)

DDR5, when it was announced, had a new feature called 'On-Die ECC'. Too many of the press, and even the DRAM company marketing materials misunderstood this important technology. It is not traditional ECC, and in fact won't do much if you really need an ECC system. Here's what it really does.

0:00 On-Die ECC
0:17 What is ECC
0:38 Memory Does t...

▶ Play video

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 6:59 AM

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There will be DDR5 dimms with an 80bit bus for ECC, just like 72bit bus for DDR4 ecc

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80bit bus due to two 40bit channels, with 8 bits each for ecc

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So technically the real high end ddr4 has 288GB of ram, but only 256GB is usable due to 32GB being for ECC

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Wonder if jedec will ever make just higher performance standards so we can have ecc sticks at better frequency and latency :p

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:04 AM

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well there used to be nice jedec standards

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if ddr4 ones were as tight as ddr3 we'd have 3200 16-16-16 jedec

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:05 AM

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What happened?

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:05 AM

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things got real loose

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ddr5 is even looser

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Beyond just what's necessary?

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:06 AM

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jedec went 400 2.5-3-3 -> 800 4-4-4 -> 1600 8-8-8 -> 3200 20-20-20 -> 6400 46-46-46
For the tightest spec with clocks doubling

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Ick

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Wonder if it'll become the norm for people to just oc ecc memory for hedt platforms

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:07 AM

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probably not

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though some servers already do hire people to overclock stuff

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which is neat

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since the ddr4 spec for voltage is 1.14v ~ 1.26v, ddr4 has to work at jedec at 1.14v, so some servers undervolt to that

hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Hm

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Haven't really looked at any of the ddr5 standards, is it going to be using lower voltage specs than ddr4?

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:10 AM

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1.1v

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Jedec is 1.1v yeah, but XMP will be higher as usual

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:10 AM

#

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hollow thorn Jun 14, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Continuing the trend eh

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Down it goes

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:11 AM

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that's from the datasheet

grizzled bloom Jun 14, 2021, 7:16 AM

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They're already working on DDR6, no official specs from jedec yet but expected launch is around 3-4 years from now

celest anchor Jun 14, 2021, 7:16 AM

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further away then that

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dim cloak Jun 14, 2021, 3:06 PM

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F

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 3:32 PM

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is this a good cpu??

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Fal

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it’s $100

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Pretty much the same as your 3470

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Not worth $100 for you

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 3:35 PM

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oh

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what board will be good

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i am not sure if i can take out the cpu heatsink from the dell

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??

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 3:42 PM

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IDK about the Dell, don't see why you couldn't take the heatsink out. If you're asking if it will work on a different motherboard, have to see pics

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 3:46 PM

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or i will get one with the heatsink

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i think they have the intel heatsinks on the boards

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 3:48 PM

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If you buy a new motherboard it won't come with a cooler. Coolers come with new CPU's

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New as in, in the box new

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 3:53 PM

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this is the only new one i can find i can do a price offer

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how much should i offer

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i can offer $80 i hope i have enough stand off screws

ionic hamlet Jun 14, 2021, 4:09 PM

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I swear, the prices you're hitting... maybe you should seriously think about buying something newer.

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 4:16 PM

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like what model @ionic hamlet

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Could get an entire 4770K machine with 16 GB of ram and an ssd for $279 https://smile.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-9020-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B076X6QRTD

Amazon.com: DELL Optiplex 9020 Small Form Business Desktop Tower PC...

Amazon.com: DELL Optiplex 9020 Small Form Business Desktop Tower PC (Intel Quad Core i7 4770, 16GB Ram, 240GB Brand New SSD, WIFI, Dual Monitor Support HDMI plus VGA, DVD-RW, WIFI) Win 10 Pro (Renewed)']: Computers & Accessories

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Could proably even do better in the local market

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 4:19 PM

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i am done with business computer

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 4:19 PM

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You're still investing into really old tech tho, it's not really an upgrade per se.

ionic hamlet Jun 14, 2021, 4:26 PM

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An Intel 4000 series is just ancient at this point. There's used hardware that's better than that.

fading mauve Jun 14, 2021, 9:49 PM

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oh

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:35 PM

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10850k or 5900x? Friend said he didnt have a budget originally was looking at 5950x. They are looking for a gaming/streaming system already has a 3070-Ti coming.

Micro Center is ~20 minute drive meaning I can easily get a 10850k for $300 plus tax which compared to the $600+ for the 5900x I can't see that being worth an extra $300 for 2c4t maybe something I'm not thinking of.

vast meadow Jun 14, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Well the cores a lot faster

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Well even 10900k either or

vast meadow Jun 14, 2021, 11:36 PM

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10900k waste of money

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Can't beat the 5900x for single core gaming speeds but IMO it's not worth an extra $300. There's about a 20% speed difference in single and multicore

vast meadow Jun 14, 2021, 11:36 PM

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10850k is like 10900k -100mhz

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Thought they were $400 at MC

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Might be thinking of something else

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 11:37 PM

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5800x probs

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MSRP $449, sometimes on sale

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Just get a good cooler for the 10850K, preferably an AIO. They're hot

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Yea likely. But definitely the 10850k is a better buy for half the price.

elfin warren Jun 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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It is

vast meadow Jun 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Yeah 10850k way better value imo

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Extra money can be spent for a board with great overclocking capabilities and a nice 360mm aio or something

vast meadow Jun 14, 2021, 11:38 PM

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Ehh no point after a certain extent

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Unless you wanna try ln2 oc

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10900k would be desired then

vernal apex Jun 14, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Gotcha. Thats what I thought between 10850k and 5900x good to get second opinions though.

Didnt think $300 was getting much more than 2c4t and slightly faster speeds on them.

burnt spear Jun 15, 2021, 12:32 AM

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elfin warren 5800x probs

Check out r/hardwareswap I've seen some go for 350$ on there before

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And they go for 400$ basically daily, just make sure you follow the sub rules to prevent scams

vernal apex Jun 15, 2021, 12:33 AM

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I've used r/hws in the past idealy just going to go to MC but who knows.

naive pendant Jun 15, 2021, 1:31 AM

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I am having Dell Inspiron 15 5558 laptop and planning to change my HDD to ssd, I want to know whether SAMSUNG 870 EVO Series 2.5" 500GB SATA III V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-77E500B/AM will fit or not

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cursive epoch Jun 15, 2021, 4:30 AM

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naive pendant I am having Dell Inspiron 15 5558 laptop and planning to change my HDD to ssd, I...

It'll fit right in

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Wait lemme check

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Yep, should fit

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Also don't need to get samsung

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WD blue or crucial mx500 are cheaper

remote grove Jun 15, 2021, 5:31 AM

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I'm trying to upgrade my RAM on my DDR3 machine but I don't know much about compatibility. IT says that I have 16GB with two of these...

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So would this be a good match?

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/20-148-545

halcyon relic Jun 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Think you need a new motherboard

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Nvm that is still ddr3

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As long as it’s ddr3 you should be fine

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Check your motherboard manual to see how much it can use

hollow coral Jun 15, 2021, 6:05 AM

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I was wondering if someone could help figure out if the ram im looking into buying is compatible with the motherboard I have

halcyon relic Jun 15, 2021, 6:46 AM

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hollow coral I was wondering if someone could help figure out if the ram im looking into buyi...

What is it

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Most motherboards specify what architecture it supports (ddr3 vs ddr4)

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And will also specify the maximum GB it supports

remote grove Jun 15, 2021, 2:35 PM

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halcyon relic Check your motherboard manual to see how much it can use

I can't believe I forgot to just check the motherboard spec sheet! Thanks for that, it can support 32GB so it's time to spend so more money on this old box!

halcyon relic Jun 15, 2021, 2:36 PM

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remote grove I can't believe I forgot to just check the motherboard spec sheet! Thanks for th...

np 😛

vernal cosmos Jun 15, 2021, 2:39 PM

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remote grove I can't believe I forgot to just check the motherboard spec sheet! Thanks for th...

I would go with faster ram over more ram after 16GB

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16 is more than enough for any game

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more perf from faster ram than more ram at that point

remote grove Jun 15, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I'll worry about that on my next build. 😉

cursive epoch Jun 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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It doesn't really matter for ddr3 tho

carmine pasture Jun 15, 2021, 5:08 PM

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elfin warren Jun 15, 2021, 5:09 PM

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restarted?

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Did you reboot the PC to see if it installs itself again?

carmine pasture Jun 15, 2021, 5:13 PM

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vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:16 PM

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If restart didn't reinstall google realtek audio driver

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Download that

elfin warren Jun 15, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Well

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There's a ton of those

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Go to the motherboard manufacturers website and get from there

vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:17 PM

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elfin warren Go to the motherboard manufacturers website and get from there

Do they not have an auto thingy?

elfin warren Jun 15, 2021, 5:18 PM

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Realtek? Not from what I've seen

vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Ahh shame

vernal cosmos Jun 15, 2021, 5:27 PM

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vast meadow Do they not have an auto thingy?

Nop

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Realtec has poopy driver support

vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Stoopid realtek

vernal cosmos Jun 15, 2021, 5:30 PM

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My sister had a laptop with realtek wifi

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It was so bad that I spent my own money and got an intel one because I couldnt stand it when I used it a few times a month

vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Oof

vernal cosmos Jun 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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I upgraded her entire laptop soon after but besides the point

vast meadow Jun 15, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Lol

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:08 AM

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How big of a difference is it between the 5800x and 5900x?

elfin warren Jun 16, 2021, 3:09 AM

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For...what purpose?

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Like, gaming won't notice a difference

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Rendering a video will

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:12 AM

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CAD and Gaming

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The difference between the 2 rn is about $180

elfin warren Jun 16, 2021, 3:32 AM

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For CAD it will matter, for Gaming it won't

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So it's 50/50 right now lol

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The 5900x shows as 30% faster multicore in Cinebench

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so might be worth it

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And Geekbench

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Lot of cad is pretty single threaded, blender/video stuff will take advantage of it though

elfin warren Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Is CAD single?

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interesting

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Fusion360 is notoriously single threaded

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Rhino 7 uses multithread

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Solidworks is a bit better

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I mean, CAD is such a broad category

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Is the difference between the 2 worth $180?

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Need to specify your use case

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:35 AM

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I mostly use Rhino 7

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Occasionally Catia but most Rhino

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Catia can definitely use GPU acceleration, depends what you're doing with it

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Both which I know take advantage of multiple threads

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I know that much that’s why I’m mostly focusing this cpu on Rhino

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Y’all think I should get the 5900x?

mild jackal Jun 16, 2021, 3:38 AM

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quick google sounds like rhino 7 generally makes good use of more cores, I say go with the 5900x, 5950x if you can afford it

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well, this thread says otherwise https://www.reddit.com/r/rhino/comments/hhwr65/which_computer_specs_to_prioritize/

r/rhino - Which computer specs to prioritize

3 votes and 7 comments so far on Reddit

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I mean, really cant' go wrong with a 5900x, both have some of the best single core speed in the market anyway

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So you're not trading that for multicore

cyan raft Jun 16, 2021, 3:40 AM

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I think the 5950x is a bit overpriced for what it is

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5900x is still reasonable

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But also the 5800x is only $380 so it’s tempting

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5900x is $550

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Actually the extra 4 cores will be helpful

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5900x it is thanks

hollow coral Jun 16, 2021, 3:59 AM

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halcyon relic What is it

I was looking to see if the Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz would work om my Odense2-k motherboard

limber dragon Jun 16, 2021, 3:59 AM

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yes it will

hollow coral Jun 16, 2021, 4:01 AM

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do yall think its worth to uprade my pc on blackfriday/cyber monday

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worth the wait

limber dragon Jun 16, 2021, 4:07 AM

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sure, ddr5 should be out by then, so you'd get to choose between a big upgrade, or a discounted upgrade

spring sphinx Jun 16, 2021, 6:21 AM

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limber dragon sure, ddr5 should be out by then, so you'd get to choose between a big upgrade, ...

what abt prime day

limber dragon Jun 16, 2021, 6:21 AM

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what about it?

hollow thorn Jun 16, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Am5 isn't coming for another few months

naive pendant Jun 16, 2021, 9:46 AM

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limber dragon sure, ddr5 should be out by then, so you'd get to choose between a big upgrade, ...

DDR5 is gonna have a big learning curve in terms of performance

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probably shouldn't adopt it really early unless you need an powerful iGPU for whatever reason

cursive epoch Jun 16, 2021, 9:50 AM

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^

celest anchor Jun 16, 2021, 9:51 AM

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naive pendant DDR5 is gonna have a big learning curve in terms of performance

learning curve? thinkies

celest anchor Jun 16, 2021, 9:51 AM

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hollow thorn Am5 isn't coming for another few months

more then that, won't be till next year

vast meadow Jun 16, 2021, 10:05 AM

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celest anchor learning curve? <:thinkies:807875039100928010>

Well it's not gonna start out much faster than ddr4 atm, just like ddr4 started at 2133

celest anchor Jun 16, 2021, 10:05 AM

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it will

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DDR4 is basically DDR3+

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DDR5 isn't just basically DDR4+

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It's a big step foward

cursive epoch Jun 16, 2021, 10:14 AM

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uh