cpus-mobo-and-memory

[naive pendant]

Aswell

[grizzled bloom]

Socket 1150? Open box will be hard to find for something that old

The founders edition 3080 is 285mm, the longest I see are 337mm, so you'll be fine

[fading mauve]

are refurbished good

[grizzled bloom]

I find refurbished to be better quality than new in a lot of cases, since they go through more testing

[naive pendant]

@grizzled bloom are the stock fans on it fine

Or should I buy other ones

[grizzled bloom]

They're usually good enough, but if they are too loud you can change them

[naive pendant]

And for the little singular fan slot to the top left of the case on almost every case, will a normal fan work fine?

I assume so

I have 3 Corsair 120 mms which also suck but may be better then the stock fans

[fading mauve]

i hope i find one in the us

if it says supports 4th gen since i have a 3rd gen on newegg @grizzled bloom

[grizzled bloom]

So you have a 3000 series processor? That's Socket 1155 not 1150

[grizzled bloom]

That's for 8000 series chips right?

Socket 1151

@fading mauve Best I could find, supports 2000/3000 series CPUs https://www.ebay.com/itm/283628198974

[fading mauve]

I thought you guys ship in the us but from China

[grizzled bloom]

Third party marketplace

[fading mauve]

Newegg has 3rd party too

[grizzled bloom]

H81 is 4000 series btw

[fading mauve]

$50 not that bad at least it’s not a chinese board Fal

it’s 1150 socket Fal

[grizzled bloom]

Didn't you say you had a 3rd gen processor though?

[fading mauve]

yeah

[grizzled bloom]

1150 is 4th gen

1155 is second and third

[fading mauve]

ah

i am better off with this board

[grizzled bloom]

A 3000 series processor will not fit that socket

[fading mauve]

which one will i need

[grizzled bloom]

The one I linked, Z77 chipset with 1155 socket

Z means you can overclock with it

[fading mauve]

oh i need 1150

[grizzled bloom]

So you have a 4000 series processor, 4th gen?

[fading mauve]

Intel Core i5 (3rd Gen) 3470 / 3.2 GHz

that’s what i have

[grizzled bloom]

https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/Intel/Core_i5/i5-3470.html

Socket Type: Socket 1155

[fading mauve]

hu

i thought i had 1150

Fal

[grizzled bloom]

You need a board with one of these chipsets

[fading mauve]

ah

how can i find out

on new egg

[grizzled bloom]

(With the ships from USA filter) https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=1155+motherboard&N=4814 4016 100007627 600093976 601361688 1100858365&Order=1&isdeptsrh=1

[fading mauve]

should their be a sticker on the dell

your right

and i found a open box with the 1155 socket

Fall

thx for the correction

the open box for $59 is the right one it matches

[velvet stirrup]

recommended aio for 5600x?

[vast meadow]

Arctic freezer ii, ek aio, lian li galahad

[velvet stirrup]

thanks

[vast meadow]

Np

[fading mauve]

the chinese motherboard it’s a lga 1155 @grizzled bloom will it do the same

[naive pendant]

whats a good speed I can statically overclock a i9 10850k
I have an asus prime-a and my aio is arctic liquid freezer II 360mm

-a speed I can just have it at most of the time so nothing insane/wanna stay on the safer side but definitely oc a bit

[smoky widget]

try 4.6-4.8 and see if it crashes doing prime 95 and stress test it. Also check temps

after try 4.9 and so on

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Reseat graphics card and check power cables.

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Ah. Reseat it then and try a different slot if you have one.

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Tske the card out and put it back in the slot. Might not be seated properly.

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Try a different slot on the motherboard?

[carmine pasture]

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[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Oh

How did you move your board didbyou from one case to another?

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Or you just moved the whole pc?

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Ah

Tried diffwrent output ports?

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

If it doesnt require lower and you cant try a different slot theres not much left.

Different ports on the gpu

Should be more than one?

[carmine pasture]

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[elfin warren]

Ye

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[naive pendant]

Oh build chat

I’ll post there

[stable dirge]

This is what I came or

For* that ram is not on the same wavelength as the OLOy Blade ram

[devout moth]

BigM8#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stable dirge]

Bro even this one

That's worse

3600 c16 16 16 > 4000 c16 19 19

You can find better binned Samsung B die sticks than the OLOy Blade kit but it's not easy

loose tRCD timings

That's definitely not bdie

That's some Rev E

[grizzled bloom]

That's... not how that works. The g.skill kits he linked are b-die guaranteed so they can overclock to straight 14-14-14.

[stable dirge]

The OLOy Blade kit

By default xmp is 3600 14 14 14 1.4v

You don't have to do anything

The kit he linked was not that

[grizzled bloom]

Ok but try doing those timings at 4000

[stable dirge]

You can

Because it's B die

Some premium B die

The 4000 c16 19 is an inferior kit

It's some really good Rev E but the loose 19 tRCD timing gives it away as Rev E

[hollow thorn]

oc is oc, it's all wack

[stable dirge]

You recommended him spend more for worse ram

That's my issue

[hollow thorn]

reve does do pretty well with just upping freq though (dunno context, but ye)

[stable dirge]

I wouldn't be saying anything if they said to not buy some expensive ram and argue it doesn't make much of a difference

They argued buying the more expensive ram was the better buy

That's the issue

[hollow thorn]

@stable dirge side note, 4000 16-19-19 at 1.4v looks to be a known b die bin from fitz's b die sheet

[stable dirge]

4000 c16 19 19 is weak

[devout moth]

BigM8#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stable dirge]

That's BAD b die if it is

B die tends to be flat timings

[hollow thorn]

meh, still good imo, 3200c14 is what I consider decent

[stable dirge]

He found for 150 bucks 3600 c14 flat

[hollow thorn]

It should be able to tighten tRCD fairly easily

[stable dirge]

That's pog

[hollow thorn]

for 2x16?

[stable dirge]

2x8

[hollow thorn]

yea the kit linked was 2x16

[stable dirge]

I know

It's also bad b die

Or Rev E

And it costs more

That's 20 dollars more than buying 2 kits of the OLOy ram

4x8

[hollow thorn]

should be less, reve or decent b die still p great imo

and also, I would prefer 2x16 over 4x8 for upgradability reasons

[stable dirge]

If we had a 1 to 10 range of bad and good B die

[hollow thorn]

Both options are valid options

[stable dirge]

The OLOy kit is 8 out of 10

Very very hard to beat that

They exist but it will cost a lot to beat it

[hollow thorn]

I mean

4000 14-15-15 is a b die bin

:D

[stable dirge]

4000 14 15 15 is good

He linked 4000 16 19 19

If it was 14 15 15 I'd rate it

I'd be like bravo

👍

[hollow thorn]

I just believe you can still tighten tRCD on that

If it's b die

[stable dirge]

Probably

But it costs more

[hollow thorn]

reve usually doesn't tighten too well

[stable dirge]

And it's worse

....

Objectively the kit is worse

[grizzled bloom]

B-die can usually get tRCD down to 140-150ns

[hollow thorn]

depends still tbh, if you want upgradability or not

[stable dirge]

I mean...

For what he needs 32 is plenty

The way I personally see it

If you need 64

You need 128

Type thing

[hollow thorn]

Who really knows how software develops over the next few years

[stable dirge]

In a situation where you can make use of that ram you probably need more than just 64

[hollow thorn]

It's always a nice-to-have

I'm probably still missing some context though

[stable dirge]

I told him about that kit in another server

He asked people here about the recommendation

And they gave him a bad one

And the confidence in that recommendation

😫

Like I said it's not that they recommended him something ELSE. It was they recommended him something more expensive and worse

At the same time

[hollow thorn]

Well, I personally don't believe it's just worse, but they're close nuff

[stable dirge]

OK so

They're not that cloae

I have a B die spreadsheet that explains it rather well

[hollow thorn]

I am probably already on that spreadsheet right now lel

[stable dirge]

But uh

Yeah

If you have it

[hollow thorn]

I'm looking at the 1.55v predictions for the two xmp's

[stable dirge]

You can see the ns ratio for voltage

3600 c14 1.4v is just pog

The 4000 c14 15 at 1.5v from OLOy as well is a smidge better

[hollow thorn]

I don't have the link to the oloy kit, is it 1.4v or 1.45v?

[stable dirge]

1.4

[hollow thorn]

interesting

[stable dirge]

3600 c14 14 14 1.4

[hollow thorn]

thought it was the EOL xmp

[stable dirge]

Nah

Look at how GREEN that ns is

😫

[hollow thorn]

lol

[stable dirge]

After looking at that sheet

You will understand my point

[hollow thorn]

hey, I thought of an excuse, on daisy chain boards, theoretically, 2x16 would OC better than 4x8 xD

But yea, I see your point, I also thought the oloy kit was a different xmp

[stable dirge]

Yeah but it will also be held back anyways because it's a 16GB kit

Not that matters much either

[hollow thorn]

I mean, it'll still be 2 ranks per channel either way

[stable dirge]

In my case I bought that kit too

I have a T top Board

4x8

[hollow thorn]

oh and another thing, oloy kit clearance is wacky

[stable dirge]

Works better for me

[stable dirge]

The warhawks are

For sure

The blades aren't that big

[hollow thorn]

Well, width too

[stable dirge]

I have the Warhawk kit rn. Sold 32GB of 3600 c18 22 22

For 100 dollars

[hollow thorn]

there's a fair few cases where top mount aio can be blocked by ram that's too wide

[stable dirge]

Understandable

But Milk is going for 360mm aio front

[hollow thorn]

mainly an issue with like vengeance rgb being just bad, but anyways

[stable dirge]

So this wouldn't matter but yes something to take into consideration

[hollow thorn]

I'm just giving excuses for places where the trident kit would be better, but yea, oloy kit was probably better for the guy who asked for a suggestion

[stable dirge]

Mindblown that the Liquid Freezer II is 360mm is only 125 dollars

[hollow thorn]

thought it was 120 for a while

[stable dirge]

I didn't know

They were always out of stock

[hollow thorn]

Oh well, freezer ii is just too good

[stable dirge]

They were like a mystery product

Now since they're readily available

I might have to cop

[hollow thorn]

They were readily avaliable for like few months iirc

[stable dirge]

Probably

But I was in a coma

[hollow thorn]

then they just disappeared for while

[stable dirge]

I had no clue

[hollow thorn]

Well, the past doesn't matter too much anyways

[stable dirge]

Bro the LFII makes every other aio look stupid for even attempting to exist

😆

A more expensive product that's worse....

Let's goo

Arctic is costing everyone else's bottom line

Love to see it

[hollow thorn]

I basically recognize it the one aio I can suggest for builds xD

other than dummies that want rgb

[stable dirge]

It has an ARGB variant

😆

20 bucks more

[hollow thorn]

not available in US yet afaik

I know it was in europe for a few weeks

[stable dirge]

The rgb variant is available

ARGB isn't

[hollow thorn]

wait

there's 3 versions now?

[stable dirge]

Yeah bro they killed the game

It's over

[hollow thorn]

I mean

146$ on amazon for 360mm

ek-aio is what, 155$, it's close

galahad is also like 150$

I need to pay more attention to those things

[stable dirge]

I can't post pictures

[hollow thorn]

Need to be lvl 3

[stable dirge]

But it's worse

[hollow thorn]

soon™️

afaik it's close enough

other than for AM4

because offset mount op

[stable dirge]

Not worth spending more money for worse

[hollow thorn]

looks

[stable dirge]

Even if it's slightly worse

[hollow thorn]

sadly

[stable dirge]

I think I might need to cop

The 360mm

[hollow thorn]

image posting time

[stable dirge]

I have a 9900k that needs to be cooled down

It's already LMed

[hollow thorn]

delid?

[stable dirge]

Yet my air cooler won't prevent it from hitting 100c instantly on small ffts

[stable dirge]

Yh

[hollow thorn]

p95 too op

[stable dirge]

My 9900k can do 5.2ghz

I just need a cooler good enough

It does 5.1 all core at 1.312v

I want 5.2 more so I can set the cache ratio higher

YESS I get emojis

[hollow thorn]

y e s

but freezer ii is great

[stable dirge]

Freezer II is a 🥶

Icy goat

[naive pendant]

i5-4690k overclocked to 4.8ghz go brr

I need to get this thing validated before it can’t do it anymore

[winged roost]

Will 5600x bottleneck a 3080ti?

[dense frost]

no

[limber dragon]

Depends on resolution

[vast meadow]

Tbh don't worry bout bottlenecks as long as your system is balanced, there's always going to be some bottle neck in your system. I'd recommend a 5800x or 5900x though if you want to play 1080p(or in general imo)

[cyan raft]

Even the software could be a bottleneck

[vast meadow]

Yep if it's not hardware, the game engine etc can bottleneck

[dense frost]

if hes playing at 720p he might be bottlenecked significantly anough to notice, but I doubt anyone would notice the difference between a 5600x and 5900x frame rates when paired with a 3080ti, even at 1080p.

you talking about hundreds of fps

[cyan raft]

But who would be playing 720p with a 3080

[dense frost]

exactly

[vast meadow]

Ehhhhhhhh that really depends on the types of games you wanna play

[cyan raft]

If you ain’t playing 1440-4K with a 3080ti you’re doing it wrong

[vast meadow]

If you wanna play competitive shooters you ain't gonna play 1440

[cyan raft]

But why would you buy a 3080ti then?

Seems like a waste imo

[vast meadow]

Cuz fps is very important in games like that and mb they can't find a 3080 or 3070

[fading mauve]

Hey Pato i tried finding the msi b7fa‑IE 35 it was a chinese version i will be on my own

[vast meadow]

Sorry what lol?

[fading mauve]

nothing i accidentally bought a chinese motherboard not a us region board

[vast meadow]

Oof

[fading mauve]

yeah Msi told me to buy stuff ONLY From The Us region filing a dispute i had a msi before ik hp uses standard atx motherboard but dell makes their own my mom asked me if it’s working like no dell has Proprietary front connectors

[vast meadow]

I see

[fading mauve]

i have the front panel connectors for the standard case not the right ports i am better off with a standard motherboard

[tall belfry]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-16-core-3-4ghz-am4-desktop-processor/15331716?cmp=seo-15331716&cmp=knc-s-71700000065432953&gclid=CjwKCAjwqvyFBhB7EiwAER786Xd-_iptNE-CJb7ztUlT0usw9JHa1ly_9GkyXy4DKXpDiZoWwzRSVxoCRN0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

My other Canadian friends, 5950x at BB in stock

[hot chasm]

That's a bit steep

[fresh wren]

That's MSRP

[topaz reef]

its $1099 on newegg canada

[fresh wren]

So an extra $50

[hot chasm]

$549 NewEgg US, a couple of shuffles ago 😉

[vast meadow]

Well yeah but you're not comparing the same currency or region lol different tax rates etc

Also you're thinking for 5900x

5950x msrp is 800 usd

[lavish tree]

I am in between should I get a 5800x for 370 or a 5600x for 280 I am going to mostly be gaming

[south swan]

Would a strix b550-f handle a 5900x alright?

[vast meadow]

I'd go 5800x if it fits your budget

[vast meadow]

If you already have yeah, it just needs a bios update but i wouldn't bother buying that board it's not worth the price

[lavish tree]

what is a good AIO for the 5800x

[vernal cosmos]

arctic freezer II

ek aio

lian li galahad

[lavish tree]

is 240 mm ok?

[vernal cosmos]

I would go 280

[glass plover]

I have the 240mm and it's fine

I wish my case had room for a top mount 280 though

[vernal cosmos]

240 is ok

Not great

[vernal cosmos]

What cpu?

[glass plover]

3700x

[vernal cosmos]

No wonder

5800x outputs quite a lot more heat

Zen 3 overall heats a lot more than zen 2

[glass plover]

I'd of gotten the 280 if the lancool 2 would let me top mount a 280 :/

[vernal cosmos]

Front mount is also a thing mate

[mild birch]

240mms generally have quite low fluid content

It also doesn’t help that the radiator is only 288 cm^2 of area

[glass plover]

If I were to front mount it then I'd have an area with no psu airflow and an open space because it's made for a 360mm or 3 120s

[mild birch]

Ideally 280s would be best for dealing with heat soak and general dissipation

360s and 420s are fine on custom pumps

But your run of the mill Asetek or CoolIt OEM will struggle

High flow rate 280 often beats lower flow rate 360
In more ways than one

[glass plover]

It's an arctic freezer 2

[fading mauve]

How can i tell if a motherboard is out of the us region

[smoky widget]

what about a AIO for a 10900k?

[vernal cosmos]

Freezer II 360mm

[smoky widget]

Thanks. But my case don't support 360s I have a Corsair C70

[vernal cosmos]

What case

[smoky widget]

Corsair C70

[vernal cosmos]

Maybe upgrade the case tbh

[vernal cosmos]

Saw ur edit

[vast meadow]

dont buy a 10900k rn, basically a 10850k btw

[smoky widget]

I already brought it. Got a decent deal. 435 for it

[vast meadow]

fair enough

yeah id go 360 arctic or ek if you want rgb

[limber dragon]

how is it a 10850k?

10900ks will fairly regularly do 5.2 all core, 10850k you'll be lucky if it can do 5.0

[smoky widget]

I don't want too much RGB.

Also @vast meadow my Corsair C70 doesn't support 360s

[vast meadow]

well its stock clocked 100mhz lower but for the price diff of like 100$ its not worth it

[vast meadow]

ahh, what cooler do you have atm?

your case says it fits a 280mm so that would do fine

[smoky widget]

I have an air cooler a cooler master X6 Elite. I have a corsair H105 new. But I don't have all the parts for the new PC. Just MOBO and CPU

[vast meadow]

ahh i see

if its still in the return window i would swap for arctic 280 but if not ohh well

[smoky widget]

ok, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280?

thank you for the suggestions. 🙂

[vast meadow]

Yeah i would

If you can't return it the one you have is fine

[smoky widget]

ya the H105 return time is long gone.

I could try using it But ya. I just get a 280 since the 10900k runs hot

[vast meadow]

Ehhhh it should be fine, you could always sell it on ebay if you wanna upgrade it or something

[smoky widget]

true @pato

[grizzled bloom]

Plato? I didn't realize we had a famous philosopher here!

It all makes sense now

[fading mauve]

i can’t wait until it comes so i can send it back for a us region

[vast meadow]

"insert wise quote"

[vast meadow]

I get called plato, I've been called pako once or twice potakov(really), ppl really just have trouble with typing pato(kav)

[vernal cosmos]

You are patoto

like a potato

but pato

[vast meadow]

🥔

[fresh wren]

Any idea why my DDR4-4000 RAM has to be underclocked to 3800 MHz to POST reliably?

[elfin warren]

Because your AMD CPU FCLK can't handle 2000 mhz

2000 mhz FCLK = 4000 mhz RAM

1900 FCLK = 3800 mhz RAM

[fresh wren]

Is there a way I can see how high a frequency my FCLK can handle without toying around with it for hours?

[glass plover]

My 3700x seems to randomly get hotter at like 1 or 2% load

[elfin warren]

Not really, need to test it. Getting 2000 FCLK on 5000 series is more rare than AMD let on so if it were me, I'd leave it at 3800 and tighten up the timings as much as possible.

might need to bump up SOC voltage and tweak a few other things to get to 2000

[lavish tree]

what is the difference?

[elfin warren]

3200 vs 3600

[lavish tree]

ok I missed that

thx

[fresh wren]

Any advice on tightening timings?
I've got a 4x8GB 15-16-16-35(36?) kit

[vast meadow]

Try 14-16-16-32 for the moment, ie keep the other timings the same then tighten from there

[vast meadow]

I'd guess the last number is 32 because it's usually 2x second number

[fresh wren]

It's not

It's 15-16-16-36

[hollow thorn]

the tRAS being tCL+tRCD isn't a solid rule, it's just what it may follow

[fading mauve]

Hey Pato are there msi that don’t come from China so i don’t end up with a chinese import

[hollow thorn]

what

[elfin warren]

They're looking for a MB for an intel 3rd or 4th gen. Most are out of production and will be second hand. New ones will be weird chinese reproduction things.

Z77 I think is what's needed

[hollow thorn]

Basically all MSI factories are either in China or Taiwan so...

[split copper]

what cpu

[elfin warren]

3470

[hollow thorn]

Well, if it's from MSI, I wouldn't worry too much about it, if it's a 'reproduction' of an older board

not just some random dude in a garage that soldered a chipset onto a random board

[elfin warren]

The ones they posted before were Dell boards

Kinda proprietary weird stuff

[hollow thorn]

wacky

[fading mauve]

This one is a chinese import i called msi up they don’t have this one in the system

[fading mauve]

yeah i got a non Proprietary case and getting a motherboard

[elfin warren]

I mean the board format and power are standardized

It's the drivers and other support that will be wacky

[fading mauve]

the front connector for dell are proprietary

[elfin warren]

That board looks all standard

It's just the drivers and software support that might be odd

Especially if MSI doesn't know that board exists

[split copper]

should be fine if you let windows pull drivers in device manager right

[elfin warren]

Maybe? Windows relies on HWID

SO if the HWID is odd or wonky it won't know what to do

[split copper]

hmm

[elfin warren]

Sorry, Device_ID

HWID is another thing

I'd honestly just find a legit used board on Ebay

[split copper]

or do what I did and find a whole computer for about the same price with a legit board in it

[cyan raft]

My mobo is finally coming back from RMA

[hollow thorn]

checked reddit rq, only found this for 150$ that ships
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/nqzixt/usafl_h_asus_tuf_sabertooth_z77_mobo_i73770k/

[fading mauve]

they don’t have it the real ones don’t end in IE

[hollow thorn]

nothing on homelabsales

[split copper]

what

[vast meadow]

Ahh okay thanks

[fading mauve]

is asus a good board

[dense frost]

depends on the model

[split copper]

what constitutes as haswell refresh and what constitutes as non refresh lol

huh

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1452-haswell-refresh-worth-it-4790-4690-4360-vs

gaming

[fading mauve]

i am going to probably stick with msi

I saw lga 11551 is it close to same as 1151

[split copper]

no

probably a spelling error

and intel 3rd gen core series is 1155

look at q77 boards

probably the most well rounded chipset to choose for 1155

[fading mauve]

i don’t want a chinese import

[split copper]

ok

then don't import from china

[fading mauve]

$60

brand new

[split copper]

there's some good h67 computers on ebay from a seller I bought the pc I'm using rn from

[fading mauve]

can i get this one

[split copper]

no

[fading mauve]

ugh

[split copper]

wrong socket

1155, DDR3 is what you need

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

[fading mauve]

i am trying to get a new one

around $100

or open box

[split copper]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133673903666

h61 chipset doesn't have many features compared to the rest

has this mobo in it

made by intel

rear io

rather basic but you can ask down the price a little

[fading mauve]

I have a case

[split copper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HBPzK8/seasonic-350-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-ssp-350st should come with this power supply or similar, a 2tb hard drive, and 4gb ram

yea just transfer the parts into your case

that's that option

[fading mauve]

yeah i have a dell Proprietary board which special front panel connectors

[split copper]

I would probably go for a q77 or b75 board for more features

[fading mauve]

the new link looks like a corpate case

q77?

[split copper]

look at the tables in this page

shows all the chipsets for 1155 and their features

[fading mauve]

it’s the chipset

[split copper]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133673964104?hash=item1f1f96d248:g:4ZkAAOSwCl5gNaPE this one has a 3470, with the same psu and hard drive combo probably, and 8gb ram, on a b75 board

more money ofc

more ram, has usb3.0, more drive ports

[fading mauve]

i think 1155 is office cpu like anti theft lock

[fading mauve]

my mom had a foxconn from hp it went bad

[elfin warren]

Foxconn makes boards for msi and others lol

[split copper]

I have some foxconn fans

[vernal cosmos]

what die

kit tells nothing

pretty useless info

[fading mauve]

my old msi board

[vernal cosmos]

MSI makes HP boards?

[fading mauve]

they use too my last one was a compaq with intel duel core

now they make their own

[vernal cosmos]

hehe

[split copper]

don't need a z77 for a 3470

imac 😳

[vernal cosmos]

My specs are a 3600x and an rx570

hehe

[fading mauve]

what type of brand is that

for the mobo

[vast meadow]

Gigabyte

The one mittens posted anyway is

[vernal cosmos]

one that has never manufactured a motherboard ever

[fading mauve]

oh apple

[vernal cosmos]

Nope

I built it myself

Has a 3600X and an RX570

[fading mauve]

i thought you can’t build apple

[vernal cosmos]

you can fake apple into believing you have a mac tho

software trickery

allows me to run macos natively on my ryzen PC

[fading mauve]

oh is a z77a-g45 good

[split copper]

way more than enough

and too expensive

170 bucks

[fading mauve]

are used ones good

[split copper]

yea

I linked you used ones

[fading mauve]

it’s a tower

[fading mauve]

@split copper i found one local free 4 day delivery

[crystal idol]

Anyone know any 3200 MHz DDR4 kits that don't use XMP?

[elfin warren]

What's the issue with XMP?

[river tundra]

Does anyone know why my mobo won’t use my lab cable as wifi

[elfin warren]

Lab cable?

[smoky widget]

LAN?

[river tundra]

LAN*** my bad lmao

[elfin warren]

Because lan is Ethernet

It's not WiFi

Do you have a WiFi card or ethernet drivers? What's the base issue here, no internet?

[river tundra]

Yes no internet.

[elfin warren]

Brand new build?

[river tundra]

Yes

[elfin warren]

Mmmmm, ethernet cable from your PC to the modem or router?

[river tundra]

Yes.

[elfin warren]

Go to Device Manager, check Network Adapters

Is there a Realtek or Intel GBE adapter in there?

[river tundra]

Check Dm

[elfin warren]

I'm sorry, I don't know who that is but I'm trying to help. Need to see if there are Ethernet drivers installed. If not, you'll need to install them via USB drive from another PC or connecting your phone via USB and sharing the internet connection

Tell me what motherboard it is and I can get you a download link for the drivers

Or if there is an issue showing in Device Manager, tell the code and I can see how to fix it

[river tundra]

Give me like 2 min we’re getting that info

[elfin warren]

Sounds good

Here's an example of an ethernet device from my PC, the Realtek one.

[grizzled bloom]

Well RIP my wife's retro gaming PC. I went to replace the case and found out every single capacitor by the CPU popped. Looks like goodwill hunting for a new, salvageable board.

[vernal cosmos]

intel ethernet best

not a great wifi card inbuilt in my mobo tho

doesnt matter to me anyway since it supports 433 and I have 200mbps plan

[quartz zinc]

DID EVERYONE SEE THAT CORSAIR RAM DEAL???

OMG

damn nvm

its back to 114

[halcyon relic]

Is it worth upgrading from r7 3800x to the 5800x/r9 5900x?

[hollow thorn]

For doing what

[halcyon relic]

mmm just gaming, programming, school atm

[candid flax]

Prob not

Its okay we got alwaysgottahavenewhardwaritus

[devout moth]

Unclear Warhead#1514 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Unclear Warhead#1514 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[devout moth]

Ferocity#3728 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Ferocity#3728 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[vernal cosmos]

so someone hacked you to swear in the server.

sus

[burnt spear]

so i found out why i thought my 3600 went bad with my 3060 ti

i lost the lottery, it performs on par with smthn around a 7700

[vast meadow]

Ohh epic nitro??

Change your password bruh

[vast meadow]

Don't think you can loose that hard, what ram and cooler do you have? Also have you tried updating the bios

[burnt spear]

32gb 3000mhz and basically a stock cooler

i havent updated bios

tbh i have no clue how lmao, this is my first real pc and i only just started learning about them back in november

[vernal cosmos]

Yep

imagine not having access to #special-role-channel

couldnt be me

[eager cradle]

couldnt be me @vernal cosmos

[vast meadow]

Could be the cooler, check your temps under load, the ram is kinda slow as well but should be fine

[vast meadow]

[vernal cosmos]

sure kid

[vast meadow]

Just making sure lol

[burnt spear]

yeah the ram is 2x8 3000mhz and 2x8 3600mhz, i got the 3600 for 40$ and figured id want more ram at a lower speed, and the temps stay around 80 max and under full load norm sit around 75

its a b550 board so maybe i should update the bious

[vast meadow]

Mb, also mixing ram could definitely be an issue sometimes it just doesn't work

I'd recommend just trying the 3600 in slots a2 and b2

[elfin warren]

This

Mixing ram speeds can lead to oof

[burnt spear]

Doesn't work as in how?

Just hinders performance?

[elfin warren]

Kind of a waste of the 3600 speed ram and can also lead to booting issues. If it's working fine then keep going

[vast meadow]

Nah puts strain on memory controller

[elfin warren]

BUt the boost you'll get from 3600 would be nice

[burnt spear]

Damn

[elfin warren]

Ye

[burnt spear]

Alr thanks for the help

[elfin warren]

AMD benefits quite a bit from faster ram

So does newer Intel

I'd imagine the reason for your low performance is the ram speed TBH

[elfin warren]

This is what I'm talking about

[bright turret]

Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX or ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI)

i have the TUF atm and thinking of upgrading to the Aorus one since i see a deal on it

[elfin warren]

Why upgrade? You won't gain anything other than looks

[cyan raft]

What’s the chance of ASUS just not fixing my board if it’s bios bricked?

[naive pendant]

whats a better motherboard guys... x570 pro or plus?

[hollow thorn]

assuming asus, x570-pro

[naive pendant]

yep

[fading mauve]

What thermal paste do you recommend

[vernal cosmos]

kryonaut if you wnat the good stuff and dont mind paying for it

MX-4 is still great otherwise

[fading mauve]

i found this one if i want to run gta V i will have to use my cpu

free shipping and in my state

[vernal cosmos]

not worth it

since its only mobo

[fading mauve]

that’s what i need

@vernal cosmos i only have a dell mobo

what do you want me to do not have a pc

[burnt spear]

I redid my benchmarks, idk what happened but its performing as expected now

About 9600k performance level

[vernal cosmos]

what benchmark?

[burnt spear]

Userbenchmark but I know how bad it is so I'm downloading a proper one

Is novabench a good one?

[elfin warren]

Cinebench for CPU

[burnt spear]

Nova bench put my system in the 97th percentile overall

[elfin warren]

3D mark timespy for GPU

[burnt spear]

Alr thanks just started it

So even if it's performing normally currently, would it still benefit from the higher ram speed?

[elfin warren]

Oh yeah

[burnt spear]

If I'm understanding it right it's currently putting it at i9-9980h for multi core, but the test is still going

[vast meadow]

Try have a look at cheaper ones that's a brand new mobo price

[burnt spear]

Idk how this compares, it got 9102 points in multi core

Which is just above 9880h multi core

[elfin warren]

Cinbench which version?

[burnt spear]

R23

I think that's the version anyways

[elfin warren]

which CPU?

3600?

[burnt spear]

Yeah

[elfin warren]

That's a little low

Should be 9400 or better

Probs due to ram speed

[burnt spear]

It performs same as 8700k

As in normally should

Idk what it currently does

[elfin warren]

Yeah, it's still a little low. Should be better than 8700K, spank it in fact

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/3481vs3098

[burnt spear]

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-8700k-vs-amd-ryzen-5-3600

[elfin warren]

Well, maybe not spank but faster

[burnt spear]

That's what I was looking at

[elfin warren]

Yeah, you're losing a bit with the slow ram speeds

Difference in games could be as much as 10%

[burnt spear]

Do you think its worth the downgrade in ram size?

Oh thay score is just multi core

I'm running the single core right now

[elfin warren]

I do, 16 GB should be more than enough

[vast meadow]

Yeah most people don't even use 16gb

[burnt spear]

I use about 90% of 16 (im too lazy to do the math) with disc and streaming while gaming

I found the 3600mhz with my current mobo for 80$ on reddit so figured why not lmao

[fading mauve]

since my cpu fan on my dell i can’t get it off the plug

[vast meadow]

I wouldn't worry a huge amount then, you could always sell the 3000 for 50$ish then buy the same kit of 3600 if you need 32gb

[fading mauve]

is amd cheaper there Intel

[vast meadow]

What cpu again

[fading mauve]

this price

$109

[vast meadow]

Ehhhh not a huge amount usually and board will be like 10$ cheaper or so

[fading mauve]

i will go with the $109

cheaper then 120

[vast meadow]

What cpu is it again?

[fading mauve]

Intel core i 5 3rd gen 3470

i can swap cpu if i want

i will just have to apply thermal paste

[vast meadow]

Ohh thats way too much for an old board

[fading mauve]

what price should i be looking for

$67

[vast meadow]

That's definitely a more reasonable price

Around 50$ or so

[fading mauve]

can you help me find one in the us so i don’t get a china import

[vast meadow]

I am wrecked atm lol so aint up to going searching lol

[burnt spear]

1221 for single core

Wow which is just below a 7700k

That's really bad

Welp

Time to take the ram out ig

Bruh the gpu is just barely in the way

😐

[fading mauve]

is this one good

pato

is this a good pricd

[vast meadow]

That's way better pricing

[fading mauve]

is asus the same as msi

[burnt spear]

alr i got the ram out, gonna run benchmarks now

[fading mauve]

to get 8 gigs i hope i can get the dell heat sink out

and put it on

[burnt spear]

Btw, since I took out the 3000mhz kit it automatically goes to 3600 right?

And so far it's now below the old multi core performance, but its got 2 min left

[elfin warren]

Gotta set XMP/DOCP again

[burnt spear]

I have no clue how to do that, im guessing in the bios?

Yeah the multi core just finished below the 9880h

[elfin warren]

yes in the BIOS

usually main first page

[burnt spear]

Alr thanks

Will it be obvious?

[fading mauve]

ok is this a gaming board

[vast meadow]

I don't think there were gaming boards back then and idk much about stuff that old

[burnt spear]

They set it at 2666mhz apparently

Just set it to 3600 I believe

[elfin warren]

Save and Exit now

[burnt spear]

Did

My pc beeped and no monitors are coming on

[fading mauve]

i rather go with msi

[burnt spear]

Uhh

Oh there we go

The speed is showing as 2667

In task manager anyways

[elfin warren]

Yeah it didn't stick. What slots are the ram sticks in?

Should be A2/B2

[burnt spear]

The first, skip one, third

[elfin warren]

Yeah that's not right

From the CPU left to right

empty, ram, empty, ram

Probs why XMP isn't sticking

[burnt spear]

sigh

[elfin warren]

IKR

[burnt spear]

I have about 17 cables in my pc

[elfin warren]

If it ain't one thing it's another XD

[burnt spear]

So needs to move over one?

I cant get it to go in

[elfin warren]

Yes

Both sticks moved to the right one slot

[burnt spear]

There we go

Thank god

[fading mauve]

the $109 board Pato is used

not new

i can offer price of $87

[burnt spear]

@elfin warren there's nowhere to change it under main, would I just change it under oc tweaker? It lets me change ram speed there

[elfin warren]

what motherboard

Try Simple/EZ Mode instead of Advanced

[burnt spear]

Asrock b550

Oh I turned xmp on

[elfin warren]

Steel legend or Phantom?

[burnt spear]

Steel legend I believe

One sec

It's an asrock b550m

Idk anything other than that

[elfin warren]

OC Tweaker

[burnt spear]

Itd take me a while to find the exact model

[elfin warren]

Load XMP Setting

[burnt spear]

Yeah thats where I am

Did that

[elfin warren]

save and exit

[burnt spear]

Ty let's see if it works

If this doesn't idk what it is

But ig this is why it was performing THAT bad, its been on 2666

[elfin warren]

Probs ya

[burnt spear]

But this makes sense why I thought the 3600 was a bad pairing with the 3060 ti

It's been running that slow lmao

[elfin warren]

Faster ram will def help XD

[burnt spear]

My monitor still isn't turning back on

The pc is on tho

Ty for all the help btw vintage

Wouldn't of figured this out myself

[elfin warren]

YW

Mght be stuck POSTing

[burnt spear]

Looks like it

[elfin warren]

:/

[burnt spear]

Does it just take time or do I have to do smthn

[elfin warren]

BIOS fully up to date?

[burnt spear]

Should be?

The mobo was just put in like 3 weeks ago

Maybe a month

[elfin warren]

EDid you update the BIOS?

[burnt spear]

A pc shop put it together (im stupid with cable managing) so they shouldve

[elfin warren]

Eh it's worth a double check

[burnt spear]

Can't really check rn though lmao

Is it going to fix itself or should I force power off?

[elfin warren]

Force power off.

:/

Might need a BIOS update if it's out of date, those often have ram compatibility too

[burnt spear]

Power button isn't working

Fun times

[elfin warren]

Use the reset button

Or press and hold power button for 10 seconds

hard power off

use PSU switch

[burnt spear]

Reset button didn't work

Oh wait

Start up screen came up

Does that mean reset button worked or bios decided to start working

Hell yeah memory is at 3600 in task manager

Idk what happened but I'm not gonna complain

[elfin warren]

Run with it!!

[burnt spear]

Time to benchmark if

Ig*

Oh wow I can see that it's doing better, with how fast it's rendering the cubes

It currently shows it performing same as before in multi core '-'

[elfin warren]

-_-

[burnt spear]

If this doesn't improve ima be upsetti spaghetti

[limber dragon]

cinebench doesnt care about memory speed

[burnt spear]

huh

It got 922

9122*

[elfin warren]

It doesn't?

Really

-_-

[burnt spear]

'-'

So what you're saying is

[limber dragon]

for hwbot, its common to run jedec, just so you can clock the core higher

[burnt spear]

End me please

[elfin warren]

Well regardless if Cinebench does or not

Your ram from 2666 to 3600 is good

[limber dragon]

literally any other benchmark should show improvement lol

[burnt spear]

F it I used userbenchmark for an idea earlier, I guess it'll still work to show improvement

Cpu performed about 5% better if I'm remembering correctly

Welp

i def lost the silicon lottery

[elfin warren]

Stock cooler?

[burnt spear]

basically

its a coolermaster but it cools about the same

it sits at a max temp of 84 while under full load, but normally doesnt go over 78

[elfin warren]

yeah a better cooler would def help. Which cooler master is it?

[burnt spear]

good question

it came in a pre build and i was never able to match it

[elfin warren]

Ah, brb, lemme see if I can get close

[burnt spear]

someone here told me its basically a stock

one sec lemme send a pic, i have one somewhere

[elfin warren]

OH wow

[burnt spear]

yeah its pretty cheap

just another way skytech screwed me over

[elfin warren]

If you're up for an investment and have the room, this thing will do wonders for you. https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B082V7TCSB

$30

[burnt spear]

do you think itd help that much?

well i guess it would atleast give me room to overclock if nothing else

id also need thermal paste

bc im a moron and have no clue where i put mine

[elfin warren]

Yeah it would

nah, cooler comes with paste 😉

I have one on my wifes 10600K

WOrks great

[burnt spear]

oh sick

wow cools up to 180 watts?

[elfin warren]

Ya

[vast meadow]

Yeah i upgraded my 3600 from stock cooler to id cooling se, big temp and max perf diff

[elfin warren]

Not sure I'd trust it to 180W but for the 3600 it's great

Especially compared to that brick you have right now

[burnt spear]

yeah

[vast meadow]

Probably just could technically cool a 180w cpu lol

[burnt spear]

ty ordering it now

thanks for all the help

[elfin warren]

YW!

[burnt spear]

yeah i def need a new cpu cooler i now have a max temp of 87 with the new ram speed

[fading mauve]

are dell cpu coller screwed into the mobo

to remove to replace it

[fading mauve]

??

[distant egret]

would anyone here like to help me match my DDR options for a new MB? I'd love some advice 🙂

[elfin warren]

what board and CPU

[distant egret]

thanks!
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-vision-d-p/p/N82E16813145297?Item=N82E16813145297
and
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx/p/N82E16819113618?Item=9SIAFVFAX97579

the board specs out a bunch of speeds, some are pretty fast.
DDR4 5400(OC) / 5200(OC) / 5000(OC) / 4866(OC) / 4600(OC) / 4400(OC) / 4000(OC) / 3600(OC) / 3333(OC) / 3200 / 2933 / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 (3rd Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics processors)

DDR4 5200(OC) / 5000(OC) / 4866(OC) / 4600(OC) / 4400(OC) / 4000(OC) / 3600(OC) / 3333(OC) / 3200 / 2933 / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 (3rd Gen AMD Ryzen Processors)

DDR4 5100(OC) / 5000(OC) / 4866(OC) / 4600(OC) / 4400(OC) / 4000(OC) / 3600(OC) / 3333(OC) / 3200 / 2933 / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 (AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors)

[elfin warren]

Uh

That CPU and motherboard aren't compatible

[distant egret]

lolz.

I asked the chat rep. he said it was ok, but I specifically asked what socked that CPU was.

I don't know what the strx4 is. :/

[elfin warren]

Ok so, why Threadripper

What are you doing with this?

[distant egret]

It's going to be for an artist.
Rendering things from Maya, Blender, and video like Premiere and After Effects.

[elfin warren]

Ah, OK, so TR will really be used

Lemme find you a board but you won't like the price XD

[distant egret]

yeah. we're watching renders go off right now and it's about 2min per frame in some cases. So we're upping the power.

[elfin warren]

Gotcha, just wanted to be sure you had an actual use case for the TR and you do

[distant egret]

lolz. I don't like ANY of the prices.. but that's the fun part right?

[elfin warren]

What do you have for a cooler?

And a case for the EATX motherboard?

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x399-e-gaming/p/N82E16813119026 for the board

[distant egret]

Haven't spec'd he cooler yet.
I've been looking at Noctua, water blocks are ok... but I feel like a big case with the right air system can hold up.

[elfin warren]

pair it with DDR4 3600 ram

Well, you need a TR4 specific cooler due to the die size of the CPU

If you have a big enough case, I have a good cooler for it

[limber dragon]

strx40 would be the better cpu/socket imo

zen+ TR was pretty bad

[elfin warren]

STR4 was oof?

Recommend away Fitz

I'm trying to find that chonky new cooler that just came out for TR but can't remember what it's called

[limber dragon]

like 3960x should be the same price as a 2990wx

air cooler?

[elfin warren]

it's the new phase change thing

I think that's what it was

[limber dragon]

there's ice giant stuff, noctua has one, and CM has one

[elfin warren]

ice giant yeah

[limber dragon]

ice giant thermocyphon

[elfin warren]

That one

[limber dragon]

pretty sure I spelled that wrong

[elfin warren]

This one! https://www.icegiantcooling.com/

[distant egret]

that's a massive cooler!

[elfin warren]

Threadripper needs massive cooling

[limber dragon]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601350557 3rd gen TRs and https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?quicklink=true&N=100007625 601349193 mobos

[elfin warren]

For constant loads like OP will be doing

[split copper]

not as giant as I was hoping 😔

just 240 wide

[distant egret]

Any options on the MB? I have a picky request for Gigabyte.

[limber dragon]

I'd go master over the pro

designare and extreme should be fine too, just more $$$

[distant egret]

yeah. I was looking at the designare.

[elfin warren]

Check the links Fitz posted. They recommended some boards and a newer CPU

Says the 3960x should be the same price as the 2990wx

There's a Gigabyte board in there as well

[distant egret]

TY. I'm thinking we have a winner here.
GIGABYTE TRX40 DESIGNARE sTRX4 AMD TRX40 SATA 6Gb/s XL ATX AMD Motherboard

[elfin warren]

Yeah but you'll need a newer CPU I think?

[distant egret]

Have I told you lately that I love you?

[elfin warren]

LMAO

Love Fitz

[limber dragon]

you'll need a 3000 series TR for the motherboard

[elfin warren]

He knows more than I do about this stuff

[distant egret]

3970x works doesn't it?

[limber dragon]

yup

just that the 2000 series TR wont work with it

[distant egret]

whew. that's where we started lol.

[limber dragon]

and if you dont have ram for it yet, you'll want at least 4 sticks of 3600mhz

[distant egret]

I like excess.

too much? two sets of 128GB

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 128GB (4 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-128GTZR
Capacity: 128GB (4 x 32GB)
Type: 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM
Speed: DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
CAS Latency: 18

[limber dragon]

Im looking into the designare, and not liking the dual intel lan

yeah, the master has a 5gbe aquantia

intel lan has a tendency to never want to load the drivers

[distant egret]

interesting.

I'm researching the Aquatina.

[limber dragon]

aquantia is the better high end ethernet ports

killer lan is good for mid/low end

and do you need 256GB of ram? Could get a bit more performance going with crucial

or actually, if you get 4 packs of either of these https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 601203950 601275376 50001455

[elfin warren]

"It's going to be for an artist.
Rendering things from Maya, Blender, and video like Premiere and After Effects."

[distant egret]

so you'd suggest the AORUS MASTER MB vs the designare.

[elfin warren]

That's what they're doing with it Fitz

[limber dragon]

Im suggesting the master over the designare, yes

[distant egret]

ok, sold. Thank you.

bad news, the MB is on back order. I'll see if I can find another one.

[limber dragon]

amazon has it for $500

[distant egret]

thank you. just found the same thing.

@limber dragon @elfin warren Thanks for the help!!

[elfin warren]

YW

[burnt spear]

Does 2x4gb 3600mhz not exist?

Can't find a kit of it on newegg or Amazon anywhere

[vernal cosmos]

doesnt

8GB is minimum for 3600

[burnt spear]

Damn

[vernal cosmos]

why would you want 4x4gb tho

[burnt spear]

I have 2x8gb3600 and am selling my 3000mhz kit for the higher speed and figured I'd use the money from that for 2x4 3600

But ig I can't lmao

[vernal cosmos]

why not just buy another 2x8 3600 kit thats identical to the one you have

[burnt spear]

I'm 15 and can't get a job yet where I live

So only have the money from the 2x8 3000 mhz kit to spend right now

[vernal cosmos]

then save up

[burnt spear]

Yeah I guess I'm going to

[vernal cosmos]

rather than buying a kit you cant put into your pc anyway

[burnt spear]

Yeah

Ig I'll also try my luck at finding a kit on reddit, I found the 3600mhz kit I have for 40$ on reddit so

[vast meadow]

If you get 2x4gb you'll get the same problem afaik because it's not the same size as the other sticks iirc

[burnt spear]

Really? My laptop has two different sizes so I thought it'd be fine

And how do some pre builds have 12gb?

[vast meadow]

Can be finiky

[burnt spear]

Ah

[vernal cosmos]

if you put in an 8gb stick and a 4gb stick in the same system itll run in dual channel for 4+4 gb

if the total ram util goes above 8gb tho itll run in single chanel

[burnt spear]

@elfin warren so uhh I just turned my pc on for the first time since yesterday

It's doing the thing where it's taking forever to turn on

Pressing the reset button makes it turn on wtf

Well turn on properly

[vast meadow]

Make sure your front panel connectors aren't wired the wrong way then

[burnt spear]

Well the power button turns it on, but the screens stay asleep until I press the reset button and then the startup screen comes up

[celest anchor]

There are 4GB sticks that are 4333 let alone 3600

[vernal cosmos]

Not common

or easily obtainable

[celest anchor]

Doesn't mean they don't exist

3600 4GB sticks certainly exist

[burnt spear]

Lowkey bout to put the other ram back in and clock it back down so it doesn't take forever to turn on every time

[elfin warren]

Did you check and/or update your BIOS?

[burnt spear]

Yeah that's what im gonna do and when the new cooler comes im going to overclock the cpu

Yeah I did

[elfin warren]

WDYM by takes forever to boot?

[burnt spear]

I press the power button to turn on and the screens stay off for about 30min before it boots

And I can't turn it off or anything unless I flip the psu switch

Reset button doesn't even work

[elfin warren]

Asrock B550M what again?