cpus-mobo-and-memory

[elfin warren]

It's not recommended

[magic light]

So does it sound like my motherboard is just dead?

Not even the fans on my Pc turn on

[elfin warren]

Your cousin also isn't going to be beating on it with high multicore loads yeah?

[noble rampart]

what would you do if you had a 800ish budget rn?

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fknwvf if 800

[noble rampart]

ok, the only thing that bugs me about that build is that I would be spending alot on a motherboard I would have to replace soon

[vast meadow]

You will have to replace when you change cpu so 4-5 years?

By then a Ryzen 9 5900x would be irrelevant

And you would need a more expensive b550 mobo

[noble rampart]

ok

[vast meadow]

If you can stretch to 900 get 10700k because it's 250 $60ish more, the extra 2 cores will be worth it for CAD

[noble rampart]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWLjDc

that is without the 10700k which I might get

and thanks btw

[vast meadow]

Idk bout that psu

[noble rampart]

ok, it is gold rated

[vast meadow]

Means nothing really

[noble rampart]

ok

[vast meadow]

That's just how efficient it is but not how good it is

[noble rampart]

ok

[noble rampart]

I can use the one you recommended

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTgpkX

do you think it would be worth it to get the i7 10700k and use the stock cooler? (i could get it later)

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na mb this one instead acc i can't tell which one is the good segotep one so

[noble rampart]

ok

[vast meadow]

10700k no stock cooler

And if it did it would go 🔥🔥

[noble rampart]

oh

sad

[vast meadow]

You can get a gammaxx 400 and save like 5$

[noble rampart]

well I pretty sure I found the segotep one

on pcpartpicker

[vast meadow]

Just use the Corsair one

[vast meadow]

That wasn't the problem, i couldn't tell which model it was to compare against the psu tier list

[noble rampart]

ok

[vast meadow]

Because they had some variations of it and I couldn't tell which one was on pcpp

[noble rampart]

ok

is a tier 4 psu ok? (https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/)

[vast meadow]

I don't know that list, we use the ltt forums psu tier list, it's in pins in psu and cases

[noble rampart]

ok

[elfin warren]

Their tiers make no sense

Yeah, I'd discard that list. The LTT list actually includes testing protections, etc

[noble rampart]

is a tier C on ltt ok?

[split copper]

Yea

[vast meadow]

The corsair one i sent you is b iirc

[elfin warren]

Corsair CM?

[vast meadow]

Cx

[noble rampart]

naw, a thermaltake toughpower gold (rgb)

[elfin warren]

Ah, CX is B yeah

[noble rampart]

it is a tier C

it is the GX1

[vast meadow]

Get the corsair one i sent you

Its like 5$ more better tier and 650w

[noble rampart]

ok, will do

I guess rgb isn't worth you system getting fried or blowing up

lol

[vast meadow]

No, also the psu fan faces down so

[noble rampart]

or having power spikes that damage components

wait really

[vast meadow]

Yeah

[noble rampart]

I was lied to

[vast meadow]

Well it's still rgb

[noble rampart]

by the herd mentality

[noble rampart]

lol

but if it is on the bottom is it really worth it?

[vast meadow]

Most cases apart from a few really cheap ones fan on psu should go down

Especially if it has a psu shroud

[vast meadow]

No just get the corsair better in every way

[noble rampart]

ik that is what I meant

[vast meadow]

Just making sure

[noble rampart]

no prob

honestly I got it down to 800 exactly so I could get the 10700k

[vast meadow]

Send the list?

Idk how you did

[noble rampart]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DanieBoi/saved/Bz8mD3

the case is actually 60 from amazon

[vast meadow]

Says list is private

[noble rampart]

oh

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DanieBoi/saved/Bz8mD3

[vast meadow]

Still private

[vast meadow]

Go into your list, click edit then send me the link

[noble rampart]

rly

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpwjDc

[hardy moon]

Just get a p400a for that price

[vast meadow]

Actually yeah^

[vast meadow]

Ohh pretty much same as what i sent

[noble rampart]

the cooler master has a $30 rebate

[vast meadow]

P400a is like 65$ or so with no rebate

[noble rampart]

on amazon, making the price $60

[noble rampart]

yeah it is $70 and the is 2 fans (non rgb)

[vast meadow]

The cooler master probs only comes with 2 fans too

[noble rampart]

it comes with three argb

fans

also what is the 10700f?

doesn't that have no igpu

also can I use both m.2 slots in that motherboard w/out using a rocket lake cpu?

[severe skiff]

yep

[compact ice]

best white rgb ram? was looking at the balliustics and corsair. anyone have them in there pc so i can see?

[grizzled bloom]

Check build photos on pcpartpicker

[elfin warren]

Ballistix for performance and rgb

[compact ice]

is the ballistix better performance? ive always liked crucial

[hollow thorn]

example of how nice ballistix sticks can be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeDRz3mRIfs

[grizzled bloom]

They're not the best usually but definitely not the worst

I like this guy's build https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Mvcqqs

[hollow thorn]

@grizzled bloom the storage hurts me, and the PSU will hurt them

lol

[grizzled bloom]

I meant visually lol, I didn't even look at the parts

[elfin warren]

Oooofffffff

[hollow thorn]

anyways it does look nice

[grizzled bloom]

Besides the P-GM bomb yeah

[hollow thorn]

imo, rev e is just barely one step behind b-die, so they're the best value, and the best performance you can get for the price most of the time :)

just not tight timings

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah not just your opinion on that one, I'd call rev e second best too

IF you're lucky enough to get that on your sticks and not something that's already pushing its limits at XMP

[hollow thorn]

I mean

ballistix at 2x8gb is basically guaranteed rev e or rev b (? might be mixing em up)

and 2x16 was rev e or rev j

[grizzled bloom]

I've seen some rev b 3600 ones yeah

[hollow thorn]

might be mixing them up again though

[shy wyvern]

This is part of MSI's ad for the Z370-A-Pro LOL

I don't think fps scales like that with increased memory for an intel cpu-

[elfin warren]

NOt quite

It does get a little better but evenly like that

[shy wyvern]

Made me laugh pretty hard

[elfin warren]

I never even look at marketing TBH lol

[shy wyvern]

I noticed almost no gains going from 2133 to 3200 when I upgraded my ram

I was trying to find an add on card I saw before

that had 2 thunderbolt AND an internal usb c header

and came across that beauty

[elfin warren]

I saw that

I can't find it

[shy wyvern]

I can't find it either

[elfin warren]

Only ones I can find have a 20 pin USB 3 connector

[shy wyvern]

It was perfect and I forgot to bookmark it

WHAT

Msi has their own ramdisk software?!

I may actually look into that

I didn't know they had their own software for ramdisk specially for msi motherboards

ah they discontinued the software, along with msi fast charger, I'mma have to find and old version of it like I did with the fast charger software

apparently it's on the original driver cd, which I don't have...

Could someone help me find the z370 a pro specific ramdisk application?

It seems like there's a different one for each motherboard

[vast meadow]

Yes you just can't use pcie 4.0 m.2s

[hidden rampart]

actually he can't

first M.2 slot gets disable with CML-S

[vast meadow]

What's cml-s?

[hidden rampart]

comet lake

[vast meadow]

Oh right

[hidden rampart]

Only one of the two m.2 slots is usable with 10th gen since first uses CPU lanes only found in 11th

[vast meadow]

Ahh

[silk ice]

Hey does anyone know anything about the Patriot Viper 4 Blackout memory? One of my friends found it for a really good deal but I can't find much information about the 32GB 3600Mhz kit he found.

[elfin warren]

Kinda poopy sub timings and C17/C18 primary

For $105 you can do better

[silk ice]

Alright, thanks

[noble rampart]

so there is a another reason to choose the i5 11400?

[vast meadow]

Well only if you want to add a 2nd m.2

[silk ice]

It also has better integrated graphics if you can't get a gpu lol

[noble rampart]

i can

[noble rampart]

ok, good to know

[shy wyvern]

My friend just picked up a brand new 10105F for $85 from a local hardware store, I'm jealous. That's a pretty good find

[vast meadow]

That's the 10th gen refresh of 10100 right?

[shy wyvern]

Yeah

Still not bad

He has only a gtx 1050 2gb

Just his i7 950 is begging to be put to rest

He's had it since like 2009

It's served him a long while

[vast meadow]

Yikes

[silk ice]

It took me reading that like 4 times to realize you meant PC hardware store. I kept thinking like Home Depot and stuff and I was like "Why on earth would they have cpu's??"

[noble rampart]

lol

[novel tangle]

when cinebench breaks

[noble rampart]

where is the 10700k 250?

[elfin warren]

Microcenter

it was also on sale recently

[noble rampart]

oh

it isn't anymore tho

[smoky widget]

it's 269.99 in microcenter. Cheapest

[noble rampart]

yep

[vast meadow]

then get the 10700f cuz you getting b560 board

[noble rampart]

yep

which m.2 is the one I can't use without rocket lake, the one with the shield or the open one?

also Is there any reason to get the 10700f over the 10700? (other than the $10 difference)

[hollow thorn]

no

[noble rampart]

ok

[vast meadow]

You could get 10700 if you wanted if you need to troubleshoot but that's only reason

[hidden trench]

Can anyone tell me if the Silicon Power Desktop Memory #SP016GXLZU320BDAJ5 is compatible with the Acer Veriton M4650G-I7770 PC? It's roughly comparable to the Crucial CT2K8G4DFRA32A (which is compatible, but this one has a lower price point) and it's got a CAS Latency rating of only 16!

[vast meadow]

yes but if you want to add the kit there might only be 2 slots on the motherboard, you might need to open it up and check

[hidden trench]

It's got four slots, so I was planning on getting two pairs.

[vast meadow]

should be fine

[noble rampart]

ok

I was looking at the 10700kf but they don't sell it at microcenter

[hidden trench]

Thanks!

[vast meadow]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/626888/intel-core-i7-10700k-comet-lake-38ghz-eight-core-lga-1200-boxed-processor-(marvel-avengers-special-edition) 10700k still 250$

[noble rampart]

that one is sold out

[vast meadow]

ahh well 🤷‍♂️

[noble rampart]

its ok, I appreciate the effort

[smoky widget]

there some available in Columbus OH. But you have to pick it up.

[vast meadow]

Nb

[noble rampart]

well I happen to live somewhere other the OH

[vast meadow]

I didn't check which store lol

[noble rampart]

ok, no prob

[smoky widget]

I would say get the normal i7 10700K. Not this special editions

[noble rampart]

it was because it was cheaper

also i think I am going to get the i5 11400

[smoky widget]

ohh, that's crazy

[noble rampart]

what?

[noble rampart]

it had a sale at microcenter

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah for some reason they have the special edition cheaper than the normal right now

[noble rampart]

it isn't anymore though

because it is out of stock

btw when does microcenter restock?

[smoky widget]

randomly. I found the same one 399 at BNH

I would say this special editions just sale whatever it's left

[grizzled bloom]

Depends, it varies by store when it restocks, call and ask

[noble rampart]

ok

I think I am just going to get the i5 10400

[smoky widget]

I would say i7 dude

maybe the price goes down, or buy a mobo and sell the mobo. And you'll get a $20 off

[grizzled bloom]

But you usually can't resell the bundled parts for the same price you bought it for so it would balance out

[noble rampart]

yeah

I might buy the normal i7

but would that be worth it?

[smoky widget]

or keep the mobo in case the OG mobo dies.

[vast meadow]

For cad yes

[noble rampart]

hmm wab the i5 11600k?

[vast meadow]

💩

[noble rampart]

not thinking about cad

[vast meadow]

Ohh

Then just 11400

For k you need z board to oc too

[noble rampart]

oh

I see

so I will just buy the 11400 then

[vast meadow]

Yep

[noble rampart]

cause cad works fine rn and I have a i7 7660u

which has a grand total of 2 cores and 4 threads running at a blazing 2.5ghz

[vast meadow]

Okay

[split copper]

Dual cores aren't bad

[noble rampart]

lol

it is terrible

[split copper]

I wonder what the laptops I used in hs had

I've been using an i5-2450U

Surprisingly not bad

[vast meadow]

X to doubt

[split copper]

Minecraft is a trainwreck past 6 chunks

2450M

[hardy moon]

Laptops we have are n4000 pentium

[split copper]

[shy wyvern]

Our laptops had 2012 single core (With HT) atoms

The teachers had to turn on all the laptops before classes started because they took around 25 minutes to boot and become full usable

[split copper]

My brother's Aspire One has one of those

[shy wyvern]

They had 32GB flash storage which was topping out at 11MB/S

Slowest damn things on the planet

[grizzled bloom]

Oh our school upgraded to NUCs with no local storage at all, network boot only lol

[shy wyvern]

That doesn't sound too bad honestly

[grizzled bloom]

We had to petition them to enable the USB ports because how can I bring my English paper home without that?

[shy wyvern]

I'm happy now that most really cheap laptops now use 64GB soldered sata ssds without controllers since they're almost as cheap as the crappy compact flash that's found in thumb drives

My friend just bought a $240 chrome book and it gets 110MB/s writes and 130MB/s reads which is SO much better than my chrome book in highschool

also chromebooks with i3's are stupid fast

like 10th gen i3's and an ssd and that chromebook is blasting off. Chrome OS is so lightweight that it's crazy when you start introducing any decent cpu

[hollow thorn]

unless you introduce it to programs

[shy wyvern]

even then it's pretty good

and flawless android app compatibility too

although imo laptops are kinda losing relevance compared to things like phones and tablets

I take all my notes with my note 20 ultra and dock it and use it as a computer, I don't even touch my gaming laptop anymore really

[swift shale]

Thoughts on the MSI MPG Z490 Gaming edge wifi motherboard?

[shy wyvern]

Great choice if you can get it for $200

The vrms on that are really good

[pale mist]

@swift shale i like it

[limber dragon]

I'd go giga z590 elite if you're stuck to $200

[pale mist]

Z590 these days is better

[limber dragon]

you pretty much have giga z590 elite for the $200 range, giga ultra for the $300, giga master or asus z590-e for $400, asus hero for $500

sub $200, dont bother with a Z

[pale mist]

The z590 tuf pretty good

I think competitively inexpensive

And you cant go wrong with TUF boards

[limber dragon]

ehhhh, it looks about equal to the giga elite

[pale mist]

Still

The old days of the sabertooth

I know this aint the MOBO at hand but

[limber dragon]

tuf also has much worse rear io than elite

[pale mist]

I think I found motherboard love

[tender gulch]

if im reading this right on the x570 Godlike, 1 JRAINBOW(ARGB Connector) can only handle a max of 2 Lian Uni Fans? anyone else with the same mobo can confirm this?

[severe skiff]

ever used a fan hub?

[tender gulch]

well like it can only handle 75 led's while one fan has 32 led's. i was planing to slap on 9 fans on my case

[severe skiff]

most rgb fans wont work properly if you dont connect it to the included fan hub

[tender gulch]

i want to learn. What does a fan hub do other than provide more connections

[severe skiff]

more connections, better power delivery (to my knowledge), and rgb interface with the motherboard

almost all rgb fans now use a fan hub to properly interface with the motherboard

i almost forgot, you can modify the fan curve because of the fan hub

or at what temp the fans spin and how fast it spins at certain temps

basically, if you want your fans to work properly, use the included fan hub

[tender gulch]

my worry here is power delivery. if the mobo can only power 75 Led's where am i going to get the power for the rest of the 213 led's

[severe skiff]

the fan hub draws power directly from the psu thru molex or sata

[elfin warren]

You can power 5 fans from one RGB connector

Just get a splitter or a hub

4-5 anyway

Each header is good for 1 amp

[severe skiff]

lian li uni fans include a fan hub for 4 fans

[elfin warren]

There ya go

[tender gulch]

oh, the hub connects to the psu?
oh the sata connection!!

[severe skiff]

either molex or sata

[tender gulch]

im such a monkey, thanks guys

[elfin warren]

Each fan or RGB header can power 4-5 fans by itself

ON the motherboard

[vernal cosmos]

if each one is .2-.25A each

I have fans that are .3A so I can put in only 3 and use at full speed

otherwise speed gets limted but it still runs the fans

[grizzled bloom]

You're typically not running a fan at full speed anyway

And a lot of things are over-engineered these days so they easily exceed the spec, like 80C rated cables not losing integrity until 100C

[split copper]

I'd prefer running fans under 80%

[grizzled bloom]

Mine rarely break 60% except my radiator fans

[split copper]

Rad gotta pull through tight quarters

[grizzled bloom]

Well my rad fans are rattling at low RPM so I keep them over 60% minimum and they're silent

[split copper]

Same with thick air coolers

Ah ic

The system I've been using this past week Phenom II 955 + GTX 970 has just the CPU and rear case fan, along with psu and gpu

4 fans total, and the case fan is 3 pin

[grizzled bloom]

Ah the phenom II, what a good series that was

Probably the last time before now that AMD was relevant for gaming

[split copper]

I finally figured out how to use speedfan and got it to quiet down under 100% lol

Yeah pretty good cpu for a long time there

Is it unhealthy to idle an 3 pin old case fan

[grizzled bloom]

No, why would it be?

[split copper]

Cool

[grizzled bloom]

As long as it's set to DC mode in BIOS you can use it in a 4 pin slot too, and if the board supports it there's no problem running it down to 0%

There's a certain point where it won't have enough voltage to spin anymore, which varies by fan

[split copper]

Well, having the fan rev up it was slow to kick in

[grizzled bloom]

Nah it's fine

[split copper]

https://tenor.com/view/fan-gif-8041754

Epic

[noble rampart]

@vast meadow everything for my system is on the way other than cpu and the stuff I am buying for my friend

[noble rampart]

on the b560 tuf, if I don't use a 11th gen cpu which m.2 is disabled?

[elfin warren]

Most of the time closest to the CPU

[noble rampart]

ok, so the one with the heat sink

also what is intels turbo speed?

they have clock speed (which I understand)

operating frequncy

and turbo

[wheat halo]

Spikes to higher frequncy for a few secs

[noble rampart]

I see

so it runs at clock speed, correct?

[elfin warren]

Base is no load, boost is with load

[noble rampart]

ok

so is there any reason to get a unlocked processor?

[lavish aspen]

To Oc

[noble rampart]

oh

[gritty meadow]

not really

[noble rampart]

so I should probably just get a 11400

[wheat halo]

If your mb support it and you are going to oc yes

[noble rampart]

b560?

id thing so

[wheat halo]

Doesnt

[gritty meadow]

remember: IF you want to OC you are also going to have to invest in extra cooling etc etc etc

[elfin warren]

B560 doesn't support overclocking

CPU will boost tho

[wheat halo]

11400f is great

If you dont need the igpu

[elfin warren]

Need a Z board to overclock with Intel

[noble rampart]

will it boost with the locked version?

[elfin warren]

It'll boost with any CPU

[noble rampart]

ok

[gritty meadow]

have you kept up with how much headroom (average) there is on the 10 and 11th gen (oc wise)?

[noble rampart]

no

[elfin warren]

I haven't. I do know that 5.0 ghz or more should be possible on most of the K series but not how much past that reliably.

OH, also except on Asrock motherboards

Their VRM is so bad 5.0 ghz isn't really possible on the less expensive ones

[gritty meadow]

yes, but thats with a fairly high investment on the cooling side of things

aye aye, the asrock "funnies" i am aware of :) (more than i would like to be really)

[elfin warren]

yeah, they'll pull 150+W easily even on the 600 intels

Closer to 200W on the higher end CPU's

[gritty meadow]

aye aye

complete sidetrack: i am so very much looking forward to how apple are going to do their high pro/sumer machines in regards to their cpu design

[noble rampart]

yep

I think I'll just get the i5 then

cause its much cheaper

[lavish aspen]

10400f is good

[elfin warren]

If you need a decent iGPU to get you through until you get a real GPU, consider the 11500 also

[noble rampart]

I am getting a real gpu

[wheat halo]

Get the 11400f then

[noble rampart]

but they don't sell the 11400f at microcenter

[lavish aspen]

Which one?

[noble rampart]

1060

3gb

[lavish aspen]

Amazon and Newegg do

[wheat halo]

Hmm

[elfin warren]

Find a 6 GB if you can

[wheat halo]

3gb

Will not be so good

[elfin warren]

1060 3 GB is, at times, worse than 1050TI

[noble rampart]

its a temp card

[lavish aspen]

What does v ram do?

I always forget

[elfin warren]

Allows more textures in higher resolutions is the short story

[gritty meadow]

allow textures and game assets to be loaded/worked on by the GPU

[elfin warren]

AKA, Low, Med, and High texture settings

[gritty meadow]

there is too much vram for a specific GPU, but more importantly, there is also too little v-ram

[lavish aspen]

Ohhh that’s what it does thanks so if I’m like trying to ray trace in MC would a 3060ti be like great for high fps 1080p?

[wheat halo]

Ofc

[elfin warren]

3060TI is a high end 1080p and good 1440P card too

[noble rampart]

Ik

[elfin warren]

However, ray tracing is still a decent performance hit

I can check my 3070 FPS in bedrock tonight

3060TI is about 10% less

[lavish aspen]

Alr thx

[lavish aspen]

That’s be nice

That’d*

[noble rampart]

the 11400 is cheaper than the 11400f

[eager shore]

??

[elfin warren]

It's fine

[vast meadow]

Nice have fun

[noble rampart]

thx for all the advice

[vast meadow]

Then just get the 11400 same perf usually f is cheaper tho

[noble rampart]

ok

kool

I decided that I don't do heavy enough cad for the extra cores to be worth it

[white smelt]

R7 3800x wouldn’t work well to be cooled by a stock r5 cooler would it?

[hollow thorn]

it comes with a wraith prism, with later samples, should be okay

[white smelt]

I bought a 3800x locally but it doesn’t come with cooler

Is what I mean

[naive pendant]

if buying a blister only go with somethin else

[white smelt]

And I only have a cooler from an r5

[naive pendant]

is that r5 first gen or second gen

[white smelt]

2600

Forget which gen

[naive pendant]

that would be the wraith stealth classic

[white smelt]

Yee

[naive pendant]

it will work

but not well

[white smelt]

Lol that’s what I was thinking

[naive pendant]

im using a noctua 2 stack 4 pipe with a fan in the center for mine

[white smelt]

Someone I know said the stock cooler that comes with 3800x doesn’t cool it that well

[naive pendant]

it doesnt really

[white smelt]

Ye

[naive pendant]

i had to undervolt mine to keep it cool

[white smelt]

Stock coolers just generally not very good

Ah

[naive pendant]

well the newer rgb one with the heat pipes are rine

but really if you are spending that much and are going broke the gammax still exists

[white smelt]

They made a new one for the 5000 series cpus?

[naive pendant]

nah for the ryzen 3700 level got ones

[white smelt]

Ah

[naive pendant]

im sure it carried over

[eager shore]

yee 2700x and above got a cool rgb one iirc

[white smelt]

Ye

[eager shore]

it did ass with the 3900x lmaoao

[naive pendant]

but you got no excuse to not upgrade your cooler

they are cheap if you dont care about noise

[white smelt]

I’m looking at getting an aio

Probably the Corsair Capellix if goes on sale

[naive pendant]

depending on your workload you might not need it?

[white smelt]

Possibly

[vast meadow]

Get an arctic freezer ii or ek aio if you want an aio

[eager shore]

ek-aio if you want rgb tbh

galahad if you're into that kinda design

[naive pendant]

i dislike the waste of money on aio's when you arnt overclocking and doing silly stuff

[eager shore]

eh

[naive pendant]

and i mean overclocking overclocking

[eager shore]

keeps temps cool and they aren't really noisy

[naive pendant]

not like .2 base

[eager shore]

120mm aio's are a waste imo

[white smelt]

Yea the Capellix could be cheaper if they didn’t include the rgb hub

[naive pendant]

i disagree on the noise thing

[vast meadow]

No a decent air cooler is better than an average water cooler

[vast meadow]

Don't get cappellix

[naive pendant]

i went with a noctua cooler for a reason

[eager shore]

which noctua?

[naive pendant]

uh

[eager shore]

u12a and d15 are bae

[vast meadow]

^

[naive pendant]

the smaller one

with the center fan

[vast meadow]

Oh no

[eager shore]

the low profile one?

[naive pendant]

i strapped 2 more fans to it

yes

that one

[vast meadow]

How tf you strap 2 fans to it

[naive pendant]

i got a cube style case

[eager shore]

fair enough

[naive pendant]

it has the clip points?

[eager shore]

i think it's the low profiel one that sticks out a bit

so you can put a fan over and under it

[naive pendant]

i tapped the wires as well

[vast meadow]

Still, 2 extra fans? Where's the 3rd one?

[naive pendant]

in the center

what

[eager shore]

i'm confused

send a pic

[vast meadow]

Ohh you're talking about a d15 i think

[naive pendant]

lemme pull it up im at work

[vast meadow]

Or u12s

[wheat halo]

Thats the d15

If he has fan in the middle

[vast meadow]

Yeah nvm when they said center fan i thought they meant a not tower cooler

[wheat halo]

oh

[naive pendant]

Noctua NH-D9L

[eager shore]

ohhh that smoll thing

[naive pendant]

works very well

[eager shore]

yeah it's basically a small d15 @vast meadow

uses 92mm fans iirc

[naive pendant]

yes

[vast meadow]

Why not 120 😢

Sad

[naive pendant]

because thermaltake cube

i want my stuff horizontal

[vast meadow]

No room for taller against glass?

[naive pendant]

and with six fans

[vast meadow]

Okay ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[naive pendant]

its the core v21

10/10

cable management is terrible but everything else is exactly what i wanted

[clear stag]

hi yall!!!

can someone help a stupid idiot newb like myself

i feel dumb, but newegg sent me here and said ask

[worthy leaf]

what u need

[clear stag]

ive got gskill ram, and i keep getting errors using the default XMP settings...

so i updated my bios and tried again, testing with memtest86

and keeps reproducing errors...

[elfin warren]

What errors

And what slots is it in

[clear stag]

so ive given up, and am using stock, non xmp settings, (which is OK i guess) and im on pass 2/4 w/out errors

they are actualling in slots 2 and 4

is 1 and 3 prefered?

z370 msi a pro

[hollow thorn]

isn't memtest86 only stressing ram? (no weird imc things)

[elfin warren]

No, it's error checking

[clear stag]

i have the recipt from newegg w/order number, etc, but they wanted me to either ask here or ask gskill directly

its not the end of the world if i cant get XMP to work, but it would be nice

[elfin warren]

What speed ram?

[hollow thorn]

Oh well, 2&4 are the preferred slots, wonder if it's just wack sticks

[clear stag]

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP

the oddest part is without XMP settings (if I remember correctly) its showing up as SPD=4000 as stock

[hollow thorn]

Can you go open up cpuz when you boot into windows and take a screenshot of the SPD tab?

[clear stag]

im still running the test on pass 2/4

making sure i can boot stock after this bios update

[hollow thorn]

alright

[clear stag]

what should I do?

[graceful prism]

i ahve an intel 10700KF and was wondering what the kf meant

[hollow thorn]

Wait until it finishes, when you do boot into windows, check the SPD tab, maybe the profile is weird

[hollow thorn]

-K for Intel chips means overclockable
-F for Intel chips mean no iGPU

[clear stag]

if the profile is weird, what should I be looking for

[hollow thorn]

Just a precaution because of this comment

[clear stag]

I should manually change the setting in bios to play nice, right?

[hollow thorn]

Yea, we'll try that

[graceful prism]

@hollow thorn so i cant run it unless i have a gpu

[hollow thorn]

Yes.

[graceful prism]

ok thanks

[hollow thorn]

But if it doesn't play nice even after that, might need to contact g.skill support about a rma, possibly bad sticks, it's not impossible to have sticks that won't hit xmp

[clear stag]

damn...

what is the speed that it should post at running without XMP?

like, it is even worth it?

because my old sticks i replaced ran at 2667mhz...

so without XMP, the Gskill should be 3200? or am i wrong?

[hollow thorn]

without XMP, it will run at JEDEC defaults, aka. usually 2133 cl15

And Intel does actually gain a pretty decent gain from 2666mhz to 3200mhz

[clear stag]

sorry if this is a silly question, but 2133mhz, right?

so if I cant get the gskill XMP on, i should go back to my old sticks?

[hollow thorn]

10400 at 2666mhz vs 3200mhz for example:

Here's the thing, I think you should contact Gskill about RMA (return and ship you a new kit), since there's still performance there

[elfin warren]

What CPU is this with?

We know the Motherboard

[hollow thorn]

And another thing, generally, if sticks can't hit xmp, it's just a slightly worse bin
(For example, if it can't hit 3600mhz, it should be able to hit 3200mhz)

[clear stag]

i5 8600k

OC to 4.9

[elfin warren]

Ahhhh

what happens if you stock clock the CPU

[hollow thorn]

That might be worth trying, imc might be being wack

[elfin warren]

Interesting

Found a reddit post with this EXACT setup and exact issue lol

From a year ago

[hollow thorn]

lel

[elfin warren]

Well, different ram but same speed

Same CPU and MB

No resolution

[clear stag]

i didnt think of that...ill remove OC and text xmp on memtest

[elfin warren]

I'm trying to find someone that has used the 8600K with 3600 mhz ram

The IMC may not like that speed

[hollow thorn]

also, occt or TM5 might be just more convenient to test lol

memtest86 kinda wack since you have to boot from usb

[clear stag]

nice, which one is quicker? occt or tm5?

memtest takes like 40 min a test

[hollow thorn]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/
links to both
https://www.ocbase.com/

Well

occt lets you run for as long as you want iirc

[limber dragon]

1hr

[hollow thorn]

oh right

[clear stag]

dayumm...

[hollow thorn]

don't remember tm5

[limber dragon]

for mem testing, definitely leave cpu stock, since any instability will make you think its the memory being unstable

[devout moth]

WeThePeeps#7618 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clear stag]

omg

[hollow thorn]

bot is just slacking

words are bad

but anyways, just keep in mind the IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) is on the CPU, so if the CPU is being wack, it can cause things with ram to be wack

[elfin warren]

Pls don't use bad words

Thx

[clear stag]

so should I leave it OC and maybe take it to 4.5 and text xmp?

[hollow thorn]

I'd just do stock for testing

[clear stag]

because I dont want errors in any situation, right?

ok

[hollow thorn]

you can change it back after testing

[limber dragon]

(I've never understood the language rule since you have to be over 13 to use discord, and PG13 allows some language)

[hollow thorn]

(corporate discord)

[limber dragon]

ooohhhh newegg rule

[clear stag]

free speech prohibited

i understand

[hollow thorn]

Ye, it's a newegg rule

[clear stag]

thanks frenz!!! u all are super duper helpful!!!

LULZ

[hollow thorn]

:)

[clear stag]

lol

u censored my diatribe about being censored?

[hollow thorn]

this ain't free speech >:D

[clear stag]

says WHO

[clear stag]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WeThePepes

[clear stag]

dont wanna get ahead of myself, but I took of CPU OC and running memtest with 0 errors....

on XMP

[devout moth]

WeThePeeps#7618 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clear stag]

nvm the sticks are bad

2 errors already

is it reseaonable to try to overvolt the XMP profile to see if errors stop?

[hollow thorn]

I mean

[clear stag]

or say "screw it" and file RMA

[hollow thorn]

dew this

with CPUz

looks something like this, choose the slot a stick is in

[clear stag]

oh ya ok one sec

booting neow

you want me to post a screenshot of this page?

whats the hotkey for screenshot on windows10?

im trying to send the .png here

i cant

is that because im using the browser app?

ya, idk, i cant post anything here

here

oh thats odd

[clear stag]

does that help at all?

sorry for dm

direct energy weapon

= dew

oops, i guess xmp was enabled for this screenshot, one sec

i put em in the wrong slots after i tookem out... changing back to optimal slots with no XMP one sec.

without XMP on, my UNCORE freq is 4000

is that true?

i give up

[hollow thorn]

back

@clear stag need cpuz or something else to see what exactly the xmp profile is

UNCORE freq is just basically imc freq, doesn't really matter for now

[clear stag]

i saved it as a pdf

[limber dragon]

thaiphoon will read the xmp profile correctly

[clear stag]

can i send u the whole thing someway?

was that last screenshot what u wanted?

[limber dragon]

he wants this

[hollow thorn]

yeye

[clear stag]

this...

??

i only saved it as a pdf and i took off the xmp to avoid curruption of data

so no screenshots sorry

[limber dragon]

3600 16-19-19-39 1.35v @hollow thorn

just curious, can you post a picture of the label on the memory stick?

might just be some imc voltage that needs to be set instead of left on auto

[clear stag]

umm...lemme see...would the packaging label help?

i could take a photo of the stick tho, one sec

[hollow thorn]

phew that's weird

but yea interesting

@limber dragon if it's cjr/djr, isn't it 1.4v max for daily? or am I going crazy and it should be 1.35v

and yea soc voltage might need to be changed

otherwise, it might just be bad sticks

[limber dragon]

1.45 for cjr, 1.6 for djr

[hollow thorn]

for daily?

not benching

[limber dragon]

yes daily

[hollow thorn]

hm

1.6

interesting

[limber dragon]

the new gskill sticks at 1.6v are djr

[hollow thorn]

dayum

[naive pendant]

yo i need help finding out what memory to buy

[limber dragon]

3600c16 crucials

[naive pendant]

@limber dragon what 850w psu?

[limber dragon]

Something more than 800w but less than 900w should do the trick

[naive pendant]

lmaoo

[naive pendant]

i need some help please, i have a ryzen 7 3700x that has served me well at 3.9 ghz for months, but today for some reason it went down to 0.54 ghz and is staying there, i’m not sure what happened, it’s extremely slow now but the temperatures are showing that it isn’t hot, so what could be causing it to be so slow

[limber dragon]

clear cmos and see if it still persists

[vernal cosmos]

ryzen power plan

[wheat halo]

Power plan only does it on lite use no? On games and heavy cpu tasks it should still boost for him to 3.9

[woven epoch]

How much if an Upgrade would it be going from Ryzen 5 1600 to a 15th Gen Lunar Lake Cpu ?

[candid flax]

even going to i5-11400 would be a huge upgrade

but apparently there's not really any good z490 mobo's in stock at a good price

you'd be better off getting z590 and thats 200+

[vast meadow]

Noone will know how good 15th gen is but yes even an 11400 would be a big upgrade

[vast meadow]

You wouldn't want a z board with a non k chip absolute waste of money, b560 would be way better suited

[candid flax]

ah i didnt know they existed

im not a intel man so i dont know much about their chipsets

why intel boards cost so much for b460

most of the boards i see are like in the msi tomahawk class

[vast meadow]

Both b460 and b560 boards start around 100usd so

But b560 way better, no ram limitations

[hollow thorn]

the hell is 15th gen

[glossy dust]

some leaks from videocardz that even intel prob doesn't even started engineering one

[hollow thorn]

lol

[vast meadow]

They're probably still working on 13th or mb 14th gen

[silk ice]

Someone just mashed an 8th gen and a 7th gen in a dual socket motherboard

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[ember robin]

hi

[harsh night]

anyone need 2tb ram?
https://www.amazon.com/8x256GB-DDR4-3200-PC4-25600-Registered-Workstations/dp/B08F2V9QZ9

[silk ice]

Nope sorry I only have windows 10 home so I cap at 128GB on my laptop

[grizzled bloom]

Only DDR4? Workstations and servers are moving to DDR5 soon

And DDR5 has built in ECC on every chip too 🦾

[silk ice]

Yea and that's the other thing, windows is really going to have to bump up those memory caps when Samsung talks about 512 GB Dimm's lol

[smoky widget]

Question is Timing 22-22-22-52 good timing?

[grizzled bloom]

That depends, is it running at 5000 GT/s?

[smoky widget]

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331604?Item=N82E16820331604 @grizzled bloom

[grizzled bloom]

That's beyond garbage, that should be immediately incinerated

[smoky widget]

ohhh? ^?

[silk ice]

I didn't even know timings got that bad

[grizzled bloom]

Lower latency is better

[smoky widget]

It's hard to get some decent ram that doesn't have RGB

[silk ice]

For $25 more Crucial Ballistix is really good.
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164177

[grizzled bloom]

22/(3200/2000)=13.75ns CAS latency

10ns is considered average quality usually

[smoky widget]

Thanks Tyler. I'm looking for 32gb ram 3200/3600 no RGB.

It's hard

[grizzled bloom]

If it's for Ryzen definitely shoot for that 3600

If it's Intel there's diminishing returns after 3200

[harsh night]

damn

[harsh night]

yeah and 512gb per stick, though 512gb already exists

[smoky widget]

I'm going intel

[harsh night]

oof cl22

thats bad

[silk ice]

Yea this memory doesn't have RGB it's a different model that's like $20 more with RGB
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164177

[harsh night]

Ballistix is best

[grizzled bloom]

This might help narrow things down https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=32768002&S=3600,5100&sort=price&page=1&F=5625000,10502625

[smoky widget]

Cool. I been using G.skill for multiple PCs. But ya

[silk ice]

Yea I have patriot memory for my pc but thats because it was $100 on black friday for 32GB of 3600Mhz CL18 and Ballistix was out of stock almost instantly at black friday

[harsh night]

i have corsair lPX

[smoky widget]

@harsh night Don't be sad. At least you have a PC

[silk ice]

Could always be worse, it could be CL22

[harsh night]

fair enough

[harsh night]

yeah its fine tbh its 3200 cl16

[silk ice]

Yea I mean for the most part as long as it runs at the speeds you need that's the biggest factor

[smoky widget]

So I should get 3200 for i9 10900k?

[grizzled bloom]

Better yet, 2 TB per stick on LRDIMMs. It's 512 Gb per chip. (bits, not bytes)

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/312730-ddr5-memory-specification-finalized-up-to-6400gt-s-2tb-lrdimms

[harsh night]

wait so 2048gb per stick??????

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

Insane right? lol

[harsh night]

huh?

wtf...

[smoky widget]

It's madnesss

https://tenor.com/view/loki-tom-hiddleston-its-madness-crazy-chaos-gif-4579337

[split copper]

Wait so it has four whole chips?

[grizzled bloom]

No, the 512 Gb is BITS not bytes

8 bits to a byte

32 chips per LRDIMM

(plus the ones for ECC)

[silk ice]

I mean it makes sense that memory needs will grow exponentially over time so I'm not too shocked

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah a lot of servers are maxing out the current RAM capacity

Large businesses will benefit greatly

[silk ice]

Now when the average gamer will see benefits from 128 GB of ram versus 2TB I'm less sure

[smoky widget]

We need more. GIVE ME MORE!

[grizzled bloom]

Now imagine the implications for things like neural network and AI development, that use both capacity AND speed

[silk ice]

Oh yea it's going to be crazy

[split copper]

Ah rgr

[rigid hemlock]

I may finally be able to spin up my entire docker ecosystem locally lol

[grizzled bloom]

Or use Chrome without closing all my tabs

[silk ice]

Chrome will never have enough memory

[lucid nexus]

lmao

will finally be able to play tarkov without stutters

[haughty pewter]

Should I get a 10400f or a 11400f with a 1080 ti and should I get a Z490 or B560

[vast meadow]

z boards are only useful with cpus that have a k at the end, id reccomend a 11400f with a b560

[haughty pewter]

Alrighty

Thanks

[vast meadow]

np

[graceful prism]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-z590-plus-wifi-socket-lga-1200-usb-3-2-intel-motherboard/6452562.p?skuId=6452562 im about to buy a psu and i see this review, i have the same board can anyone help me to get a compatible psu for this board

review is under reviews in the link

[hardy moon]

Any modern psu should work

Can you post review I didn’t see it

[elfin warren]

Depends more on CPU/GPU than anything else

[graceful prism]

its not on a seprate page you have to scroll down and itll show up

[elfin warren]

That review is HORRIBLE

That's the right connection, they just needed to swap them left for right lol

[hardy moon]

are they using custom cables

[graceful prism]

lmao

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

this is what im going with i think

[hardy moon]

That’s what I was thinking lol, you can tell they are noob because they got a rog power supply too

[hardy moon]

Yep it’s good

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah that guy doesn't know how EPS connectors work

[graceful prism]

ok i kinda was thinking somethong like that wass happening i just wanted to check before

[split copper]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-patrick-gross-disgust-nasty-gif-17702536

Rog psu

[elfin warren]

They're honestly good but expensive

[graceful prism]

334$psu

[hollow thorn]

Depends, but overpriced for sure lel

[elfin warren]

So Tier A is bad now?

[split copper]

Bad 😎 🔥

[hollow thorn]

@elfin warren pretty sure they made a worse unit than the current units

[elfin warren]

Post 2018 and it's a new PSU so......

[hollow thorn]

Uh, I thought we were talking about Asus as a brand?

[elfin warren]

No, the Strix PSU as listed in the comments

[hollow thorn]

Unless you were replying to something else?

[elfin warren]

In the best buy link

[hollow thorn]

Ah

That comment needs some grammar help

[rigid hemlock]

rog thor is tier a isnt it?

its overpriced ofc but Im using one and happy with it, the little panel showing current load is neat

you can definitely get something much cheaper though

[smoky widget]

Any PSU I recommend Corsair, BeQuiet, EVGA, Seasonic at least 750W(If not getting 3000 series GPU/6000AMD) If you are at least a 850W Gold

[candid flax]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

this will tell you what you should get

[hollow thorn]

All of those companies make both good and bad PSUs

Consult the tier list for specific models

[quartz zinc]

is there a way to convert 4 my pin rgb header to 3 pin argb

i have a b360m mortar

[hollow thorn]

4 pin is 12v, 3 pin is 5v, not easy way to directly convert them

only option is to grab a SATA powered argb hub that doesn't use motherboard 3 pin

[swift shale]

Gig z590 elite or MSI mpg z490 gaming edge wifi

[hollow thorn]

for what chip?

[swift shale]

Intel i9 10850k

[hollow thorn]

Well, do you need wifi..?

[swift shale]

Well I do.. but I’m not worried abt that cause as long as I have another pcie slot I can just add wifi

[quartz zinc]

could you find one for me?

i canonly find 3 pin ones

i only have 4 pin

[hollow thorn]

pretty sure cm has one

[hollow thorn]

Well, do you envision yourself having a use for Pcie 4.0?

[swift shale]

Well I’d prob only need that if I’m overclocking right?

[hollow thorn]

No

PCIe 4.0 doesn't help or hinder OCing, unless you mean like GPU benching

either way

10850k doesn't support PCIe 4.0

[swift shale]

Oh okay then what would I really need that for

Oh

[hollow thorn]

But, in the future, if you choose to get like 11900k or something for some reason, a z590 board would support PCIe 4.0, but Z490 wouldn't

[swift shale]

Oh so really I’m just future proofing

[hollow thorn]

kinda

Also, how do the prices compare for you?

[swift shale]

Between the two motherboards they’re like the same

But like what really would be a benefit of the z590

[quartz zinc]

i still cant find one

[hollow thorn]

pretty sure this works
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-COOLERMASTER-MFP-ACBN-NNUNN-R1-MFP-ACBN-NNNUNN-R1/dp/B07Z7WLWD5/

[elfin warren]

$60 ouch

[hollow thorn]

sad but yea

[elfin warren]

ALl for da colorz

[quartz zinc]

well it wasnt what i wanted but ok

[solar marsh]

whats the best cpu to pair with a 1650 in amd

[grizzled bloom]

3600/X would do nicely

[split copper]

Anything tbh

Maybe not an Athlon or an A series preferably

Or 1st gen ryzen

[mossy flicker]

Is this mobo good

[elfin warren]

Not really

what CPU

[mossy flicker]

Ryzen 5 3600x

[analog wind]

I thought it had many good ports and options for a budget micro.
However no front USB c connector

[elfin warren]

VRM's are poop for future CPU upgrades

Do you already have the CPU?

[mossy flicker]

I don't have anything yet lol

[elfin warren]

Good

[mossy flicker]

I haven't ordered either

[elfin warren]

Then go 10400 or 11400. Less money overall and better performance than 3600

With a $109 B560 MB

[mossy flicker]

Okay

[winged needle]

i bought an 11400f instead of an 11400

[mossy flicker]

Let me put a build together on pcpartpicker real quick

[winged needle]

[vast meadow]

Return it if you want the igpu

[winged needle]

tbh there's no reason at this point

i just hope i can get the gpu

[vast meadow]

Okay

[mossy flicker]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GMWvf

@elfin warren https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GMWvf

[winged needle]

You probably won't get a 3060 for that price

[vast meadow]

No

[elfin warren]

Ditch the hyper 212

-_-

[winged needle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dogegaming/saved/#view=4Y4jHx

[elfin warren]

ID cooling SSE 224XT, same price better cooling

[winged needle]

that's what im probably gonna get

if i can get the damn gpu

if i can, ill get a 3060 ti instead

[elfin warren]

And the PSU is also overpriced for what you get

[elfin warren]

Better PSU, less money, on sale now https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMrYcf/seasonic-core-gm-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-core-gm-650

[winged needle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dogegaming/saved/4Y4jHx is this good

I changed the psu

[elfin warren]

And better cooler for less money https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VTqBD3/id-cooling-se-224-xt-basic-7616-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-224-xt-basic

[mossy flicker]

Okay

[vast meadow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KzxB68

Acc change psu to what vintage sent tho

[elfin warren]

Also that drive you have picked is SATA

Not NVME

SN550 if you're on a budget

[vast meadow]

No sn550

[elfin warren]

It's not tho

[vast meadow]

I put in sn550

That's not what i put

[elfin warren]

Ah lol

[elfin warren]

I quoted you instead of Psyonik

[vast meadow]

Ahh

I thought i was tripping

[winged needle]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157980?Item=N82E16813157980&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-LRwZbntrK35z5kURpII9QQ is this ever gonna go back in stock

oh lord that link

[vast meadow]

At that price probs not

[winged needle]

sadge

[silk ice]

Yea I was going to say the m.2 sata drives really aren't any cheaper than the nvme ones so you're just leaving performance on the table if your system supports nvme

[vast meadow]

Yup

Sata even 2.5" used to be cheaper but prices went up i think

[elfin warren]

You have an SFX PSU for a full tower

Get this one instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMrYcf/seasonic-core-gm-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-core-gm-650

[hollow thorn]

Hdv probably will go back in stock, might take a bit though

[winged needle]

ok

[vast meadow]

It is at 120, but for that price get the asus prime instead

[hollow thorn]

@elfin warren found interesting info, maybe the Asus b560 board isn't a great idea to reccomend in some cases now
https://wccftech.com/asus-b560-motherboards-lack-proper-m-2-slot-storage-device-support/

Or it could've been known for a while and I'm only now seeing it

[elfin warren]

I don't normally recommend them anyway

[hollow thorn]

(they're the current cheapest b560 board iirc)

The 120$ atx one

[elfin warren]

I usually go for the Asrock

[hollow thorn]

These two won't be good for 10400/10700 builds

[vast meadow]

Wait why?

Ohh i see

Nvm lol pcie switch

[hollow thorn]

Interesting info

[vast meadow]

Yes interesting

But it's okay on 11th gen then

[hollow thorn]

Basically disabled m.2_1 for 10th gen

Yea, just ok

[elfin warren]

I mean, I thought we've always known the slot was disabled for 10th gen?

[hollow thorn]

No

Its enabled for nearly all other b560 boards @elfin warren

So I just assumed Asus also has 2 slots available with 10th gen

[elfin warren]

Oh, I never assumed that

Always assumed 1 slot with 10th gen

[hollow thorn]

Either way, other boards now get a step up on Asus boards with 10th gen

[noble rampart]

I bought an asus board

a b560

but I got a 11th gen intel cpu

[hollow thorn]

Then it's fine

[noble rampart]

cool

[little sky]

Fortunately the micro center which is an hour away is selling 5600x at $299

[vast meadow]

As they should that's msrp lol

[little sky]

Yea but for most people who buy it online or don’t have a microcenter, on Amazon it’s like $380

[elfin warren]

Those are scalpers

:/

[naive pendant]

Hey so my old pc has a mother bord screw thays striped how can i gwt it out

[grizzled bloom]

Grip it with a pair of pliers, pull gently as you twist

[mortal stratus]

ok

[mortal stratus]

i cant grab it

[grizzled bloom]

Oh one of those flat ones, that's a bit trickier

[vast meadow]

smoker?

[elfin warren]

Yeah, carefully lift up on the MB while you unscrew it

Just a tad bit of pressure

[grizzled bloom]

Did you try using a #3 philips instead of a #2? It looks like there's still enough metal left in there

[topaz reef]

my trick is to put a rubber band across the top of the head and press down really hard with the screw driver

[mortal stratus]

no pato its old pc im renavateing

can u remove the usb ports on a motherbord and replace them

[hollow thorn]

Not exactly

[mortal stratus]

dam

[hollow thorn]

Only slight chance of success if you somehow unsoldered and resoldered the usb port

Ick

Time to buy a new board >:p

[mortal stratus]

mom old one

wasnt cleaned for 20 years

my mom and dads old ones

[mortal stratus]

is there anyway i can use a ssd on a old motherbord'

[elfin warren]

If the old motherboard is SATA, absolutely

Plug and play

[mortal stratus]

how can i tell?

[elfin warren]

These cables for drives

[mortal stratus]

ok

[elfin warren]

Ports like this on motherboard

[mortal stratus]

cuse my dads old pv was crashing every 5 mins

so i tore it apart

and snaged the motherbord

got a new cpu cooler looking for new base

case

[midnight tartan]

Should I get a ryzen 9 or i9? I'm not sure which one's better

[elfin warren]

For doing what?

[vast meadow]

What budget, what use and what Ryzen 9 and what i9

[midnight tartan]

I'm trying to get a decent gaming Pc and I don't really have a set budget I'm just getting whats best