#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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grizzled bloom
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These companies need better ways to segment their product lines

atomic fiber
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pcmark & 3dmark only

lone oar
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because they ut the 11700k as te best cpu lol

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not even the 11900k

void jolt
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you can fix the issues you know

full flame
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Userbenchmark has been horrible for a long time

void jolt
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just disable CPU c-states and turn PCIe devices down to gen 3

grizzled bloom
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UB is alright once you realize it includes overclocked benchmarks and other oddities

atomic fiber
void jolt
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yeah

lone oar
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is there any alternatives to userbenchmark

full flame
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They changed their rating methodology to favor intel back with zen 2

void jolt
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happened to me on an X570 TUF board, fixed it with the methods I listed

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really easy

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takes 2 minutes in bios

vast meadow
atomic fiber
full flame
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Their information is worse than useless

grizzled bloom
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True, UB does seem to favor Intel and nvidia

lone oar
full flame
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Doesn't "seem to", they reduced the weighting of multithreaded performance in favor of single threaded to favor intel back with zen 2

vast meadow
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3d mark is like 25 euro tho

lone oar
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nooo to look at scored

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scores

full flame
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They legit changed their rating scheme to favor one company's products

void jolt
lone oar
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of cards and cpus

vast meadow
void jolt
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idk he has a bunch

lone oar
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oh rlly...

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ooo

vast meadow
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woah :o

atomic fiber
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geekbench is fake too because takes 1 min to test & its the reason that this bench is fake

void jolt
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gave away 10 of them in general 2 months ago

vast meadow
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dont want to bombard the poor fella with keys tbh but if he decides to grace me with a key would be greatly apprecitated

lone oar
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time to run 3dmark on my r7 igpu

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radeon r7

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not ryzen lol

void jolt
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Athlon?

atomic fiber
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i asked about bech apps on quora from techies of famous companies

lone oar
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amd a series idek

atomic fiber
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why

void jolt
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quora users are insane

lone oar
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quora isnt necesarilly good

atomic fiber
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so what is good

void jolt
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various subreddits and discord servers

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not quora tho

atomic fiber
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šŸ‘

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thanks

lone oar
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ive seen some insane stuff on quora lol

void jolt
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or company servers like this one

vast meadow
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is the free verison of 3dmark any useful or just a stress test?

grizzled bloom
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I used to like toms hardware but... Some of their top contributors are kinda rude.

atomic fiber
void jolt
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timespy, right?

vast meadow
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yeah

void jolt
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yeah timespy is usually the go-to bench

vast meadow
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oh nice

void jolt
atomic fiber
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if you want to fully test your hardware then buy it if you can

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free version is kinda lame

full flame
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The free version is fine. You can also run other tests for free, don't have to buy 3dmark if you don't want to

atomic fiber
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ok

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what bench is great for testing pc performance

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not gpu

vast meadow
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dont have a good gpu atm anyway

full flame
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Well there are stress tests for stability (furmark, aida64, prime95, etc), and if you want to test the cpu specifically you could hit it with cinebench or something. Or just see how it performs in whatever applications you're going to use it for

atomic fiber
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for testing all parts especially ram & ssd

full flame
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Yeah, there are tests for those as well. There are a lot of free tests out there thankfully. Google exists

atomic fiber
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thanks

wary storm
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hello all, new to chat, question about buying RAM. Trying to get 4 sticks of 8 gb RAM for my new Ryzen build. would two sets of 2x8GB sticks work just fine, or do i need to look for a specifically 4x8gb stick kit?

rocky beacon
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Two 2x8GB sets will be fine, just make sure they are exactly the same for best compatibility and performance.

wary storm
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thanks man. Also wondering about Dual rank. Do i need to worry about dual rank sticks if i have all four slots filled?

rocky beacon
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Dual rank would be better but you don't need to worry about getting dual rank if its too expensive or not in stock.

wary storm
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on an x470 mobo fyi

ashen thorn
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Ryzen 5600x in stock on B&H photo website right now.

wary storm
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got on on newegg yesterday!

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300 bucks

hollow thorn
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@wary storm by the way, make sure your x470 board has bios updated to support 5600x :)

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And also, 4x8 or 2x16 are both good if you just want 32gb of ram

charred sequoia
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Do you suggest Ryzen 7 3600x or ryzen 5 5600x for a beginner pc build

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I am planning on buying one or the other today

eager shore
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5600x

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if it doesn't fit in your budget then get a 10400f, much cheaper then the 3600 and performs just as well when paired with a b560 motherboard and 3200cl16 ram

void jolt
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or preferably 3600CL18

limber dragon
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or 3600c16 crucials FingerGuns

void jolt
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^^^

charred sequoia
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Thanks

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Would it matter if I had gotten a B550 motherboard?

vast meadow
topaz reef
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id get a b550 board if you plan to use a 5000 series otherwise you would need some way to flash the bios

charred sequoia
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Oh, my bad, I see

vast meadow
charred sequoia
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Yep, my B550 arrived yesterday, I didn’t know that was the difference between B550 and B560 but I made sure to only look at AMD ones

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Good to know, thanks

eager shore
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b560 is an intel chipset, socket lga1200 (supports 10th gen and 11th, with 11th gen you get gen4 pcie) and you can't oc the chip but you can oc the ram, it's like the a-series chipset amd has, b550 is 3000 compatible and 5000 series with a bios update, you're able to oc the chip and the ram

vast meadow
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What he said^

naive pendant
vast meadow
naive pendant
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Dang bud

main pulsar
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hand reveal flush

prisma nymph
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😳

void jolt
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Weird request I know but I need it for someone

topaz reef
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no 😦

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only 8/9th gen

void jolt
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Can anyone find one with those specifications under $70 please?

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Need the ram to be underclocked

elfin warren
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WDYM by underclocked

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Cuz the ram will just run at whatever it's rated for

void jolt
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Person already has the kit

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But one stick is 2133 and the other is 3200

elfin warren
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So they'll just run at 2133 then

void jolt
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Mta8atf1g64az-2g6h1 micron 8gb i5-7400 1060 3gb Hp Odense-2k

Specs

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It isn’t doing it for some reason

elfin warren
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Isn't doing what

void jolt
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Putting RAM down to match the other kit or whatever

elfin warren
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So with both sticks in, what's it doing?

void jolt
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Lemme see

elfin warren
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Cuz the fastest that board will do is 2400

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and only with a pavilion power chassis

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So it should just run both at 2133

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Unless the JEDEC on the 3200 is higher

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what 3200 stick is it?

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Also, total system capacity is only 16 GB

void jolt
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Idk what stick, they are also trying to Max the system out

elfin warren
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Yeah, it's not worth it

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16GB max ram

void jolt
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They got an 8gb stick in 2133mhz and a 8gb stick in 3200mhz

elfin warren
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and most likely can't fit a standard MATX board

void jolt
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You know what

elfin warren
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The board isn't a standard MATX layout

void jolt
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@toxic flame

elfin warren
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screw holes are different

void jolt
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Hmm

elfin warren
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Board swapping won't work without a new case because the standoffs aren't removeable as far as I know

void jolt
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Frick

elfin warren
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Most of the standoffs in those cases are stamped

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and not the screw in kind

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And the bottom left screw is offset funky

void jolt
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Hmmm

elfin warren
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compared to M-ATX boards

void jolt
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Well I need a solution for this person

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@toxic flame, respond please

elfin warren
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I need to know what he system is doing with both sticks installed

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No reason it shouldn't work

void jolt
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Well I’ll tell you what

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Apparently taking one of the sticks out while the system is off

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I can’t say anything mean

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I mustn’t

elfin warren
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I mean, my 3600 ram JEDEC is 2133

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Technically should work fine

void jolt
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It isn’t for some reason

elfin warren
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Not booting?

void jolt
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Apparently

elfin warren
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Not showing the ram?

void jolt
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They said ā€˜nothing’ when I asked what happened when they put the stick in

elfin warren
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Might not have been seated all the way

void jolt
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But when they take it out it (predictably) crashes windows

elfin warren
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SOmetimes gotta push hard

thorn sage
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does anyone have absolutely any news on the asus crosshair viii dark hero?

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haha other than it's out of stock

void jolt
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What news would we have?

thorn sage
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yeah that was very wide of a question i mean of like when they would be back in stock by chance or anything i've looked all over can't find anything

void jolt
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Whenever stock is made

thorn sage
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touche

hallow swan
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getting post code 00 on an X299 Deluxe ii after a bios flashback, any suggestions?

elfin warren
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00 is generally all systems go

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But I'll check

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how did you update the BIOS?

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WIth a USB drive or from Windows?

hallow swan
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usb bios flashback

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without a cpu installed

elfin warren
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Interesting

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Manual states 0 is not used

hallow swan
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is there a place i can post images?

elfin warren
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i don't need to see it lol

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Let me dig a little bit

hallow swan
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aight

elfin warren
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So you updated

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installed CPU

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and got 00?

hallow swan
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yes

glossy dust
hallow swan
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oh lmao

glossy dust
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if ur name gets to green u can prob post at that point

elfin warren
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Hmmm, sounds like BIOS update didn't work

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how long did it take to complete?

hallow swan
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around a minute 30

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then the LED turned off

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cpu is a 10980xe

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probably should have said that

elfin warren
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Did you rename the BIOS file?

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X299D.CAP

hallow swan
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i did

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ill double check rq

elfin warren
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Was the LED flashing the whole time or solid?

hallow swan
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flashing

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gradually getting faster

toxic flame
void jolt
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Talk to Vintage

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@elfin warren

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I have to go do something

toxic flame
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im planning to get a new pc

void jolt
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Oh?

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Budget?

toxic flame
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idk

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more than 1000

elfin warren
# hallow swan gradually getting faster

Reflash the BIOS. Then with the PSU switch off, make sure the CPU fan is plugged into the CPU_FAN header. Remove and reseat the ram. Try and boot it again

hallow swan
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okay

elfin warren
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people say CPU fan header and dead CPU the #1 cause. A good portion is simply the CPU_FAN header not being plugged in all the way

hallow swan
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still 00

elfin warren
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That's Def a CPU error

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You reflashed the BIOS already?

hallow swan
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i started flashing before you sent that

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just put in a diff ram kit

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no dice

elfin warren
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Yeah, it's def CPU related

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Did it work before the BIOS update?

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Or you just updated right out of the gate?

hallow swan
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i got this board with the 10980xe

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00 before updating and after

elfin warren
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Hmmm

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What's the BIOS file name?

hallow swan
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X299D2.cap

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thats whats in the manual

elfin warren
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make the CAP all caps

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might matter believe it or not

hallow swan
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aight

mild jackal
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Don't you have to rename the bios file?

elfin warren
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They did

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I checked, it's proper

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X299D2.CAP

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POST code 00

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Which means bad CPU or BIOS

hallow swan
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CAP is all caps

elfin warren
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Which version BIOS are you using?

hallow swan
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3301

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latest off their website

elfin warren
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I'm also checking if it's a Dual BIOS board

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You using the 1 or 2 CPU power plug?

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EATX 1 or WATX 2?

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Shouldn't matter but

hallow swan
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eatx1

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that bios didn't post

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same code

elfin warren
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have you flipped off the PSU switch to completely unpower the system yet?

hallow swan
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yep

elfin warren
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CMOS reset?

hallow swan
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done that as well

elfin warren
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Well poo

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Everything I can find says CPU/motherboard issue then

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00 means dead CPU or MB

rocky forge
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5800x or 5900x?

hallow swan
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ill see if i can borrow a 7th gen 2066 cpu

elfin warren
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10980XE

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X299

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wai what

hallow swan
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one of my buds has an older x299 system, going to see if his cpu will post in my board

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i think its an i9 7900x

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or vice versa

elfin warren
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Yeah, try that

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If it doesn't work, then dead MB

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Or bad socket

hallow swan
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i tried 2 x299 darks

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one was DOA

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other one had the same code

mild jackal
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Weird to see so many problems

hallow swan
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i know right?

mild jackal
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The dark won't work out of the box with a 10xxxxe chip, need to flash first I think

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Depends when you bought them

hallow swan
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had them send me a new chip

elfin warren
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They've done multiple flashbacks now

hallow swan
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code Df before the new chip

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00 or nothing at all after on that board

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sent it back and bought this asus board instead

elfin warren
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what power supply?

hallow swan
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850gq

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evga

mild jackal
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ya, what are the common factors here that could be bricking stuff?

elfin warren
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Ram and PSU

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Or Cpu cooler

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Possibly borking the mount

mild jackal
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850 probably fine, but you can make the 18 core chip draw over that on ambient water, lol

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well, maybe just around 800

elfin warren
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What about the CPU cooler?

hallow swan
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cooler is an nh-d15s

mild jackal
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d15 should be good for about 500w on the cpu, will hit 100c around there and throttle

elfin warren
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I'm wondering mount wise though

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changing the mount tension

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If you'll get different results

mild jackal
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Idk, I don't think there's much more troubleshooting to be done, either bad chip or board

hallow swan
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you can post these cpus without heatsinks

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dont think its that

elfin warren
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Multiples though

mild jackal
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hard to say unless you have other parts to test each component

elfin warren
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weird

hallow swan
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i think its a bad cpu

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well thanks for the help anyways, yall are great.

rocky forge
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are the trident z neos good

mild jackal
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Ping me if/when you find the answer, I'm curious

hallow swan
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okay

rocky forge
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or should i go with the corsair vengance

elfin warren
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what speed?

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Cuz, ballistix is pretty OP at it's price point

rocky forge
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3600

elfin warren
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16 GB?

rocky forge
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they are on sale for the 4x 8gb

elfin warren
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Depends on the timings

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There's some crappy Neo out there

rocky forge
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so 32GB total

elfin warren
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LIke, 3600 C19

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avoid that

elfin warren
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C18, that's why it's on sale lol

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With what CPU?

rocky forge
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either a 5800x or 5900x

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AMD

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havent decided yet

elfin warren
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For 5900x, I'd be shooting for 4000 mhz ram

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Get that sweet 2000 FCLK

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For both, actually

rocky forge
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2000 FCLK>

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?

elfin warren
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Yeah, the speed the CPU chiplets communicate at

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the faster the ram, the faster they communicate

rocky forge
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this is what i had

elfin warren
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NOt 3200

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3600 for sure

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Don't hamstring that nice new 5000 series CPU

rocky forge
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i can get the ballistix on amazon for 100 per 2

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though they wont ship till the 18th

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the question is now

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do i settle for the 5800x

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or get the 5900x

elfin warren
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Unless you're doing phot or video editing or rendering, 5800x be more than enough

rocky forge
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ill be doing some cad modeling with fusion 360

elfin warren
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5900x then

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fo sho

rocky forge
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if i could find one

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😦

elfin warren
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Thursday morning

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9 AM PST

rocky forge
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is the ROG crosshair formula worth it?

elfin warren
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They've been restocking nicely lately

rocky forge
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nice

elfin warren
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IMO, no reason to spend more than $200 on a board unless for looks or heavy overclocking

rocky forge
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gonna be watercooling

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so kinda why i considered it

elfin warren
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Still don't need a fancy board for that

rocky forge
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suggestions?

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maybe the asus tuf board then?

elfin warren
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Gotta get one with Flashback for 5000 series

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That's really the only requirement

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Kinda tough on X570

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This one has it

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WiFi too

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I have it, board is nice while not breaking the bank

rocky forge
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yea, thats the one

elfin warren
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Just be sure it's the TUF PRO and not TUF Gaming lol

rocky forge
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does it have the pwm controls for the watercooling pump

elfin warren
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Yes

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It has an AIO header

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Can do it in the BIOS or in the AI Suite Software

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AIO pump header is for any water pump

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Not just AIO's but they label it that

rocky forge
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whats the difference between the pro and the plus

elfin warren
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Flashback vs no flashback

rocky forge
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my other choice is the hero

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or the E gaming

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I think it would match the look of my build better

elfin warren
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That'll work, yes

rocky forge
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ok, that look good?

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ill have to get the cpu and gpu and ram on different sites

naive fjord
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does anyone know when 5900x or the crosshair dark hero is getting a restock

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plz @ me if any1 has info

naive pendant
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it'll come up evantually

naive fjord
grizzled bloom
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Wait on the website, hitting refresh frequently, around times you expect stock to appear.

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Honestly processors are getting easier to find. I expect more at best buys (online and in store) by Tuesday afternoon for example, they've been relatively consistent.
Another option is a stock drop discord channel. We're not allowed to link other channels though, so you'll have to figure that one out. (Google)

naive pendant
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Best buy is gonna be thursday this week

gusty whale
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Thank god AMD accepted my RMA request now I just gotta ship it back

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I’m gonna guess I print the label and tape it to a box and put the cpu in it

naive fjord
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Thank you for the info

naive fjord
vale hawk
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do you lie in the us because microcenter should have a 5900x

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live*

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guys what amd 5000 series proccesor for gaming should i get

rocky beacon
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Intel is better for the pricing currently and because they are actually in stock

vale hawk
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but like for amd because i have my b550 mobo already

full flame
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5600x and 5800x are commonly in stock tbf

rocky beacon
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5600X then

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5800X is not worth it for the price at all tbh

vale hawk
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ok thank you very much i appreciate the help

rocky beacon
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Personally i would go with a 10700K on sale over a 5600X though

full flame
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Yeah, 5800x is worse value, but because of that it also stays in stock longer than the 5600x

vale hawk
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ok

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5600x is in stock in my local microcenter

rocky beacon
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Epic

full flame
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Yeah, MC usually has 5600x and 5800x stock at this point

naive pendant
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5800x has been in stock for 30 hours

vale hawk
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ik this isnt the gpu section but what shoul i pair it with thye 3060 ti or 3070?

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should*

rocky beacon
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Either is fine

vale hawk
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ok

naive pendant
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What resolution

vale hawk
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1080p some 1440p but mostly 1080p

naive pendant
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3070

rocky beacon
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3060 Ti is fine then

naive pendant
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Whichever restocks first

vale hawk
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ok

naive pendant
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Avoid msi/gigapoop

vale hawk
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i found a 3060 ti in microcenter for 400 its out of stock but ill try camping it

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also its a founders edition

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those look really cool

elfin warren
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I doubt that will restock

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Best Buy is the only retailer for FE cards now

vale hawk
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ok

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so should i camp it?

vast meadow
vale hawk
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how do you do that? sorry dont know a whole lot about this stuff

vast meadow
vale hawk
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thanks i appreciate your help

vast meadow
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Np

naive fjord
vale hawk
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yes same question here

eager shore
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or you can just join the stockdrops discord

vast meadow
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There are multiple on twitch/YouTube livestreaming 24/7 but you can get ones you can use yourself on github if yoj jhsg google one

vale hawk
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hanks

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thanks*

gusty whale
wheat halo
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Anyone knows why my cpu make buzzing noice when overclocked and running cinabench?

void jolt
void jolt
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what exactly is making the buzzing?

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your fan?

void jolt
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did you get too much air under your heat sink?

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it should be a vacuum, so air is bad

wheat halo
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Im using aio@elfin warren

elfin warren
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Oh

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Probs the pump rotor

wheat halo
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So is it normal?

elfin warren
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It's most likely the pump getting faster due to increased CPU temps, so yes

vast meadow
void jolt
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check DMs

wheat halo
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Ok so it wont cause any damage to the cpu?

elfin warren
wheat halo
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Ok thanks

void jolt
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speaking of, my AIO is arriving today

eager shore
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😳

vast meadow
# void jolt check DMs

Ohh right I'm in stock drops but snail mail i didn't know of cuz only looked at eu stock checkers

void jolt
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ah, I see

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US gang

vast meadow
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Yeah there's so many drops that i could have gotten in uk which before brexit is where we usually would get alot of stuff cuz cries in Ireland

slate phoenix
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hey

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is 250 for a 9900k a good deal?

gentle acorn
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I think so I’m pretty sure the regular price is $400....

slate phoenix
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Yea cause micro center in housten has them for in store pickup for 250

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i got one

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Says 25+ left

gentle acorn
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Nice

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I’m getting a 10850k at the end of the school year if I do good in school

slate phoenix
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cool

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but get ryzen if you have a choice

gentle acorn
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I would’ve but I want it for creative use and that was better than the 5600x for my use case

slate phoenix
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ok

gentle acorn
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Getting it for $320

slate phoenix
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thats great

gentle acorn
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Or $350 if the price goes back up

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Yep

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It was all my choice because like my uncle kept saying he’ll get me something I want if I do good in school this semester and he kept pushing it when I’d say no then I finally gave in and said a CPU since I was already trying to save for an upgrade lol

slate phoenix
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thats awesome

gentle acorn
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Yeah

vast meadow
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Yeah intel is better value atm tbh

slate phoenix
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my cpu gpu combo is now a 1660 ti and 9900k

gentle acorn
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Mines going to be a i9-10850k and RTX 2080 super

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And yeah only reason I looked into AMD originally was for an upgrade path but then I found out about AM5...

elfin warren
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Well

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It's end of the road for Intel also

gentle acorn
#

Yeah

elfin warren
#

Next CPU is LGA1700

gentle acorn
#

So either way would need a new motherboard

elfin warren
#

Yep

gentle acorn
#

Also I’m trying to decide now should I try to get a cheaper motherboard or should I stick with my current one as I’m currently getting one that’s $200 but if I get one that’s cheaper it’ll take less time to save for

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Currently working for my dad to get money and first I’m saving for a laptop then afterwards I’m getting the upgrade

vast meadow
#

What mobo do you have atm

gentle acorn
#

A MSI Z390 -A PRO so it’s not compatible

vast meadow
#

Imo there's not much point as even tho it's last gen z board it's still z board

gentle acorn
#

It would still work?

#

It’s LGA 1151

#

Talking about my current one

elfin warren
#

uh

vast meadow
#

Ohh nvm I'm tripping

#

I forgot for a sec that lga 1200 is 11th gen and 10th gen

gentle acorn
#

Yeah

vast meadow
#

I'd recommend seeing if you can get a 9900k instead so you don't gotta upgrade mobo

elfin warren
#

THere's really no reason to spend more than $200 on a board unless you're doing some big overclocking

vast meadow
#

But ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

gentle acorn
#

I don’t really mind upgrading the mobo it saves me some work as well as I’m getting a different case too

elfin warren
#

Multicore wise, the 10850K over the 9900K is a 25% improvement

#

Single core only 5%

gentle acorn
#

Alright

#

Yeah I plan to use it for streaming and video editing once I find good software that’s free...

#

Tried Davinci’s Resolve but it’s very confusing

vast meadow
gentle acorn
#

Alright cool

vast meadow
#

Looks good

gentle acorn
#

Alright cool

#

Also what’s the rainbow LED connector

vast meadow
#

That sounds like it's their rgb connector

gentle acorn
#

There’s another pin connector though that says RGB

#

Oh it is for aRGB

nova hornet
#

tfw newegg tries to recommend you its "best reviewed memory" and it's all ddr3

eager shore
#

i mean

#

if a lot of people bought it and they like it then yeah best reviewed

#

not a lot of good expensive things are in best reviewed cuz not everyone buys them

nova hornet
#

simple recommendation patterns: not always the best, lol

gentle acorn
#

Also can you daisy chain RGB so it only uses one slot?

#

Nvm what I was asking about only uses one connector apparently

livid sparrow
#

Woot, ASUS just got my motherboard for repair, maybe I'll be able to put my pc back together soon

gentle acorn
#

Nice

spark gate
#

What voltage does some pc usually run in idle? Is around 1.25v recommended? Currently I am running around 1.35v

nova hornet
#

depends on cpu

somber star
#

so, i'm trying to find the rgb jumper for ASUS ROG Strix GL10DH does anyone know where this jumper set is?

elfin warren
#

RGB jumper? What does the RGB jumper do that you're looking for?

somber star
#

It's for a new fan with aurasync

elfin warren
#

Ah

#

Ok, RGB header, I was wondering

somber star
#

yeah, I can't locate it

elfin warren
#

Well, the manual is useless

#

-_-

somber star
#

I know it has aruasync capability because I already have things set up for it, but before trying to take everything apart I wasn't sure if it was a known thing

elfin warren
#

Well, from what I just found on LTT, it doesn't have an RGB header

#

But I'm still looking

#

The RGB chassis lighting might connect by USB and not an RGB header

somber star
#

oh... yeah, actually that makes a lot of sense based on what i was looking at

elfin warren
#

I'm checking one more thing

#

stand by

#

Are your fans 4 pin RGB or 3 pin aRGB?

worthy dome
elfin warren
#

I found pics of the GL12

#

And the RGb header is down at the bottom of the motherboard on the right

#

But not sure of the GL10 will have it

somber star
#

hmm

#

ok I'll look it looked like that space had power and status lighting

elfin warren
#

Check down at the bottom of the motherboard

#

And also above the 24 pin ATX connector by the RAM

#

Those are the two common spots for RGB headers

somber star
#

Oh, I was going to send a photo but can't post a photo

#

I found a few places without markers for what they were but they were four pin

elfin warren
#

DM if you want

#

I'll look

somber star
#

sent

somber star
#

it looks like this one uses usb for it's color sync

eager shore
#

it uses either the argb header or a usb header

elfin warren
gentle acorn
#

What’s the point of a BIOS flashback for Intel CPUs?

grizzled bloom
#

11 series isn't out yet so they'll need to update the 500 series boards to be compatible

gentle acorn
#

I saw it on 400 series though

grizzled bloom
#

Same deal, they'll need to be updated on the B460/X490 to support new CPUs so why force people to buy old ones just to flash to a new BIOS?

gentle acorn
#

Alright

sly echo
#

hello everyone, I had a couple of questions I wanted to ask. I'm about to upgrade my pc for the second time since I built it. I currently have an i5-7500 that I want to upgrade, almost certainly to a ryzen 9 3900x. First question is about the motherboard (hardware is not my forte), would a B550 hinder performance in any way, or should I go for an x570? Also, since this will make 3 major components of my PC changing (first one was the graphics card), should I expect windows to lock me out until I purchase a new license? I apologize for the wall of text, but this thing is my baby, I want to do things right.

elfin warren
#

B550 will be fine

#

Also, tie Windows 10 to an email account and you don't have to worry about reactivation with a hardware change. Just sign in with the same credentials and it will activate

sly echo
#

excellent, thanks for the assist, that's a good bit of change that I can save, for RAM

naive fjord
#

@naive pendant do u know what time bestbuy is going to restock online?

ruby laurel
glossy dust
#

the v8

pale mist
#

That ram says v8 on it

#

The only v8 that will be in my pc is the CM v8 cooler

vale hawk
#

i have a question, for a ryzen 9 5900x, would 3200 mhz ram be good?

elfin warren
#

3600 or faster

vale hawk
#

ok

#

thank you i appreciate it

elfin warren
#

Need that sweet speed for hte FCLK

vale hawk
#

also one more question, if i get 3200 mhz ram, would i be able to overclock it to 3600 mhz?

hollow thorn
#

95% of the time, not with keeping timings

elfin warren
#

Just get 3600 from the start, most are the same price as 3200

vale hawk
#

ok

elfin warren
#

Why buy $550 processor and get cheap ram tho?

hollow thorn
#

Don't rely on OCing for anything, especially ram, ram oc is annoying

vale hawk
#

truw

#

is dual channel better than quad channel?

hollow thorn
#

Wat

#

All consumer boards are dual channel

elfin warren
#

There is no quad channel anymore except in servers

vale hawk
#

like should i get 4 8gb sticks or 2 16gb sticks

hollow thorn
#

Most workstation boards like TR and Xeon are quad chanel iirc

vale hawk
#

sry i meant the question i just sent

hollow thorn
#

I'd get 2x16

vale hawk
#

ok

hollow thorn
#

More upgradability

vale hawk
#

yes thanks i appreciate all your help

hollow thorn
#

Yw

slate phoenix
#

Guys can a z370 mobo run a i9 9900k

hollow thorn
#

Yes

slate phoenix
#

oh thank god

hollow thorn
slate phoenix
#

cause i found a great deal on a i9 9900k to replace my 8700 which is getting slow

hollow thorn
#

Fair

slate phoenix
#

it was 250 like thats pretty cool oh yea its new too

midnight pollen
#

might get that myself

slate phoenix
#

its only pickup in housten

#

microcenter

kindred sage
#

4600h or 10750h
**

vast meadow
#

Pretty sure they trade blows depending on workload

rocky forge
#

anyone know where i can get a 5900x

manic hull
#

best buy, micro center

elfin warren
rocky forge
#

all out of stock

elfin warren
#

Yeah, they usually restock on Thursdays

#

😦

nova hornet
#

some of those hp ram heat spreaders remind me of like ddr3 ripjaws, lol

naive pendant
#

no restock 2 weeks from previous or tuesday 2 days ago sadge

oblique crown
#

Noob quick question about AMD motherboards. Do they also need to be updated regularly for next gen cpus?

void jolt
#

no

#

just this generation

oblique crown
#

I am looking to upgrade to something that allows long term upgrading.

void jolt
#

wait for AM5 then

oblique crown
#

Googling release date.

void jolt
#

cause this was the last generation for AM4

oblique crown
#

Thank you

weak notch
#

Last generation for LGA 1200

void jolt
#

but then there is intel who changes the socket every other day

weak notch
#

future proofing is a meme

void jolt
#

^

weak notch
#

intel soft locks or changes sockets about every 2 generations

void jolt
#

AMD does it better

#

Am4 lasted half a decade

oblique crown
#

Short medium term of course. My last motherboard came with the max i7 cpu on it, and for some reasons I didn't check that so I was stuck with it for years.

#

5 years is good.

#

I am not looking for 20 years :))

void jolt
#

but AM4 is dying rn

#

thats the thing

#

cant remember how long AM3 or AM3+ lasted but I think it was a while too

oblique crown
#

Googling now to see different generation longevity

#

"With AMD you can usually use 3-4 generations of CPUs on the same motherboard with bios updates." That's neat.

elfin warren
#

Generally

#

Not true for right now though. 5000 series is the end of the line, sadly

void jolt
#

I just said that 3 times

oblique crown
#

Well I suppose they are doing it better than intel anyways

void jolt
#

true

oblique crown
#

I am Intel now.

elfin warren
#

Generally speaking

#

Hard to say what the next generation will bring with DDR5, etc

oblique crown
#

True

#

4 generations of CPU is 8 years. That would be pretty impressive. Given the fact that motherboards don't really contribute radically to a PC like CPU, GPU and RAM do, it's neat. Even 3 x 2 6 is neat.

void jolt
#

not always 8 years

#

sometimes a new CPU comes out a mere year or less after the last gen

oblique crown
#

True, but close generations don't necessarily require an upgrade.

#

I mean, I won't update each and every year for sure.

vast meadow
vast meadow
vast meadow
void jolt
#

coughs in me upgrading every chance I get

oblique crown
#

I have years when I am PC addicted besides work, and I have years when I am totally the opposite.

#

So I don't necessary require upgrades/updates.

rocky forge
#

will a 5800x be good enough for gaming and doing designs in fusion 360...or should i hold out for the 5900x

elfin warren
#

OH yeah

#

5900x will help but IDK how much exactly

fiery kernel
#

does anyone else have a 5900x that knows how to best cool it

#

also what's been their avg boost clock

hollow thorn
#

Silicon lottery

fiery kernel
#

?

hollow thorn
#

Every CPU is so ever slightly different, one 5900x might boost to 5.4ghz, another might only do like 4.6ghz.. I was also referring to the silicon lottery site, they usually have a bunch of binning statistics, but not for Zen 3 yet it seems.

fiery kernel
#

huh

#

well mine's been hanging around 4.95 without oc

#

idk where that stands

#

which is why im asking if any other 5900x owners would be willing to share their own clocks

hollow thorn
#

Sounds pretty normal tbh

#

Boosting freq really doesn't matter much as long as it behaves relatively normally

glossy dust
hollow thorn
#

There's also always hwbot if you want OCing stats

fiery kernel
#

hmmm ok

hollow thorn
#

@glossy dust meh, d15 and drp4 both need to check for case clearance and ram clearance

glossy dust
#

lol

#

chonk coolers

hollow thorn
#

U12a masterrace >:D

fiery kernel
#

i guess a kraken z63 is a little under-performing then?

glossy dust
#

uh

#

unless ur willling to spend so much for display on the cooler, fine ig

fiery kernel
#

i mean i already have it

#

i just dont know if i should go about changing it

glossy dust
#

oh

#

no reason to

fiery kernel
#

i couldve gone for a 360mm aio though

#

unsure if the price to performance is worth it though

glossy dust
#

btw #old-cooling is there if u need to ask about cooling solutions

fiery kernel
#

ah alright

#

i was torn between channels bc im interested in 5900x pampering

glossy dust
#

owh it's fine

naive pendant
#

G15cs-b8 can anyone tell me some more info on this motherboard

pale mist
#

@naive pendant thats a prebuilt, right?

naive pendant
#

Yes sir

#

@pale mist

pale mist
#

Hmm

#

Well it appears to be some sort of matx h or b series board

devout mothBOT
#
CyberShark#7919 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant
#

That’s weird cause I can’t find much info on it. I’m trying to see if I am able to upgrade storage, ram fans and later on in the future graphic card

pale mist
#

Yes

#

Definitely

#

I cant tell you how many fan ports there are but it will have support for fans

#

It has m.2 and a handful of sata cables although sata power is not a guarantee (but probably available)

#

And you can slap another GPU in no problem

naive pendant
#

Yeah there’s one sata6 slot open

#

Will adding a 4tb give the power supply any issue ?

pale mist
#

I dont know the power supply but my money is on no

#

If only 1 drive almost definitely

#

I have came across prebuilts with no open sata power cables before but this seems like the kind to have them

naive pendant
#

Yeah it has it definitely but I just hope it can run it without stressing the powersupply

#

I honestly feel like just building a whole new pc

livid sparrow
#

Hmm, someone is supposedly selling a couple of 5600xs on Ebay at 187 a piece. Seems so sus yet covered by Ebay's money back guarantee, hmm

grizzled bloom
#

Link?

mild jackal
livid sparrow
#

Nah, some guy from Texas

#

Plus, he accepts almost everything for payment

#

Just rings the sus bell so much

mild jackal
#

@drowsy nymph Take one for the team and bench this with your new pot šŸ™‚

#

lol they have 0 feedback as a seller recently

#

Sounds like hijacked account to me

livid sparrow
#

Could be

#

Imma poke 'im with a message and see what happens

grizzled bloom
#

61 reviews, mostly as a buyer...
Item details are a literal copy paste of the ebay given information...
That price is an obvious red flag...
Could be hijacked yeah

livid sparrow
#

Probably

long geyser
#

The "read more" option doesnt even expand

#

for item desc

livid sparrow
#

The dude just copy and pasted the listing specifics without even expanding the condition description kekw

stuck parcel
#

I need help if anyone is on.
I was resetting my memory frequency up to 3600 because I believe that’s what it was at before and it reset and now won’t come on

ashen thorn
#

I bought my Ryzen 5600x off of B&H photo for the retail price earlier this week.

rocky forge
#

gimme 5900x plox 😩

frigid vapor
#

What's a good x570 board to pair with 5950x under $400

#

I was thinking croshair viii or asus x570-e.

rocky forge
#

im going with the f-gaming from asus

#

if i can get a cpu lol

elfin warren
#

Does it have flashback?

rocky forge
#

yes

#

i think its almost 400

warped scroll
#

Why is my ASRock B550 Taichi BIOS Flashback taking so long lol

#

its been almost an hour

#

and that thing still just blinking away

grizzled bloom
#

Best to just let it be, if you interrupt it bad things could happen

warped scroll
#

i do be letting it be doe

urban hedge
#

Anyone here have some pointers for doing a bios update without cpu?

elfin warren
#

It's really easy

urban hedge
#

not having nay luck

elfin warren
#

24 pin and 8 pin power BIOS file on a flash drive, renamed if needed, insert USB into flash port, push button and wait

#

Some files you need to rename a certain way

urban hedge
#

Just got in my Asus B550-i motherboard and Ryzen 5600x - plugged in 24 and 8 - usb stick in all good there

#

push the botton, 3-5 secs - no power

#

nothing happening , no lights no fan spinning nothing

elfin warren
#

Fans won't spin

#

Just the BIOS flashing light

urban hedge
#

no lights - nothing indicating that its working.

elfin warren
#

CPU installed?

urban hedge
#

no

elfin warren
#

Ah

#

needs to be

#

Page 2015 in the manual

#

2-15

urban hedge
#

checked 24 and 8 into the board and into the powersupply

urban hedge
#

my bad, so i need to go ahead and install the cpu

#

ok

elfin warren
#

Yes

urban hedge
#

as well as cooling then

elfin warren
#

Probably, yes

#

Good idea

urban hedge
#

i know its a dumb question, i just dont wanna brick this

elfin warren
#

Also need to rename the BIOS file

urban hedge
#

did the renamer

#

all good there

elfin warren
#

SO yeah, install CPU and cooler then and try again

urban hedge
#

will do thank you for your help

elfin warren
#

YW

#

Come back if you need more šŸ™‚

urban hedge
#

will do

#

k, wee have power and blinking

#

woot

elfin warren
#

Noice!

urban hedge
#

ok, looks like everything stopped, no movement for about 20 sec on either light or sub light

#

so at this point is it ok to disconnect

elfin warren
#

if the light goes out, yes

urban hedge
#

awesome

#

thank you again

elfin warren
#

Welcome!

silk vapor
#

SAM supports 3000s CPUs now on my board at least. 🄳

elfin warren
#

SAM or BAR?

hollow thorn
#

sam used to be b550 only iirc, and they moved to b450?

#

maybe

silk vapor
#

my motherboard is ROG Strix X570-E Gaming.

elfin warren
#

nVidia or AMD GPU?

silk vapor
#

Now i'll admit. I have a NVIDIA RTX 2080 Super which to my understand, they are not support. At least not yet

#

so it is useless

elfin warren
#

Oh, they won't be

silk vapor
#

but at least it is nice to have the option now

elfin warren
#

Plus the nVidia driver for RTX3000 series doesn't support the Ryzen 3000 CPU's yet

silk vapor
#

I do want the RX 6xxx XT GPU soon

#

just waiting for that cryptocurrency crash

elfin warren
#

nice shouln't be an issue then

silk vapor
#

and hopefully 5900x at least very very soon

grizzled bloom
#

Right next to the "Above 4GB vram" optimizing option

silk vapor
elfin warren
#

BAR is the real term for SAM

#

AMD just calls it SAM to make it sound special

#

It's a PCI-E specification

#

It's actually Resizable BAR.

silk vapor
#

So SAM gives more of a marketing ploy.

elfin warren
#

Yes

silk vapor
#

like NVIDIA DLSS?

elfin warren
#

DLSS isn't just marketing though, it's actual technology

silk vapor
#

or like Ray Tracing

elfin warren
#

So is RT, there are dedicated cores for it lol

silk vapor
#

lol

elfin warren
#

SAM is just AMD"s word for resizable BAR

silk vapor
#

ah okay

elfin warren
#

Which is a PCI-E technology and not proprietary

silk vapor
#

Would SAM help my 4K Capture Card? Kappa am joking

grizzled bloom
#

The way resizable bar works is it allows the CPU to directly access the GPU memory. It's been part of PCI spec for a while now, AMD is just the first to use it and they coined their "Smart Access Memory" term for it.
In theory it's a good idea for games that use tons of vram, in practice it's only a few %, if that.

silk vapor
#

a few games actually supports SAM at all?

grizzled bloom
#

AMD did some testing prior to launch

silk vapor
#

hmm

naive pendant
#

sucks that BAR might take a while to support b450

grizzled bloom
#

That's with both SAM and "Rage Mode"

silk vapor
#

like I said I do hope to get a RX 6800/6900 XT at some point in the future

#

but am more likely to get it from the cryptocurrency crash at this point

#

like from ebay

naive pendant
#

nope

#

anybody buying 6000 series amd for mining is an idiot

#

Mining crash won't get them below msrp

silk vapor
#

Then I don't know what is holding them back. I know about this silicon issue, but shouldn't be THIS far and between for months.

#

Like I said, just hoping one day

elfin warren
grizzled bloom
#

AMD is supplying consoles, which take priority

#

So not likely to see many AMD GPUs dropping

silk vapor
#

😢

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
vast meadow
#

oof well i havent looked at console numbers, no intereist in them tbh

grizzled bloom
#

AMD vs Nvidia GPU shipments

#

AMD is nearly at an all time low of GPU shipments (back to 2014 data)

vast meadow
#

oof

silk vapor
#

Oof indeed

grizzled bloom
warped scroll
#

its been 4 hours and this board's bios still hasnt finished updating...

split copper
#

Uh oh

grizzled bloom
#

šŸ¤ž Hoping for no brick on that flashback

elfin warren
#

You sure a solid light doesn't mean it's done?

long geyser
#

flashing via OS? I think you can cancel those ones

warped scroll
warped scroll
elfin warren
#

oh

#

Yikes

long geyser
#

I mean flashback can handle corrupt BIOSes no?

warped scroll
#

im not suer

elfin warren
#

IDK

warped scroll
#

sure*

elfin warren
#

WHat board?

warped scroll
#

B550 Taichi

long geyser
#

This is when BIOS programmers be nice too

warped scroll
#

this is a time sensetive build too, i need it done in an hour

elfin warren
#

manual doesn't say yay or nay on that

#

You renamed the file and all that jazz?

grizzled bloom
#

In the correct USB slot I assume?

warped scroll
#

yes and yes

elfin warren
#

snap

#

Not sure what to tell you here

warped scroll
#

im hecked

elfin warren
#

Worst case

#

start over and see what happens?

#

IDK

#

not many options right now

warped scroll
#

yeah factual

elfin warren
#

no way it should take 4 hours tho

#

5-10 minutes tops

warped scroll
#

should i hit the psu power switch or just yank the USB out or what

#

yeah it should take like 4 minutes

elfin warren
#

Maybe try the BIOS flash button again?

#

HOld it in for 3 seconds?

warped scroll
#

hold on maybe im crazy but I think it might have started blinking faster and I didnt touch it

#

im gonna give it a minute or two just in case

elfin warren
#

Not a bad idea

warped scroll
#

im not crazy i think it just got slower again

#

anyways holding button didnt do anything when I just did it

long geyser
#

psu switch time then

grizzled bloom
#

šŸ¤ž

warped scroll
#

eek

#

its blinking fast again

#

what does that mean hrrrngh

long geyser
#

morse code for "please end me"

#

but actually, probs write activity or smth (that is constantly failing to write)

warped scroll
#
#

I think you're right hei

#

looks like it should go from slow blinking to medium blinking to fast blinking and then done

#

and its about a minute slow, a minute fast, and then restarts the cycle

#

i flipped psu switch

#

i guess now i give it another 10 minutes?

long geyser
#

probs

#

hopefully it isnt dead

warped scroll
#

if it dead id

#

id cry

#

guess after that its time for a different USB

#

oh maybe i did this part wrong

#

when I extract it do I do

#

extract here or extract all

#

@long geyser

#

@elfin warren

#

sorry for the pings but my customer is like blowing up my phone

grizzled bloom
#

Extract here, copy files to USB

warped scroll
#

he thought it was gonna be done today so he left his old one somewhere else or something idk

grizzled bloom
#

Rename the file if needed

elfin warren
#

Yeah, extract here, then rename the BIOS file itself

#

and put it on the thumb drive

warped scroll
#

ok so this looks good then?

elfin warren
#

Should be

warped scroll
#

alright third times a charm

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if this doesnt work im gonna cry myself to sleep

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could something ebing connected to the motherboard be the result of this happening?

elfin warren
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Possibly but I doubt it

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CPU power plugged in?

untold canyon
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prob broken or sum

warped scroll
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i have the 24 pin connected as well as the front IO and a couple USBs i think

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nah no CPU

elfin warren
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Mmmm

warped scroll
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said it didnt need CPU

elfin warren
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Not CPU

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CPU Power

warped scroll
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just 24 pin

elfin warren
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8 pin

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K good

warped scroll
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no cpu power no

elfin warren
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Front IO shoulnd't matter

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USB's will

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Unplug those

warped scroll
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no not in my opinion lol

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oh ok delete ig

grizzled bloom
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It doesn't say you need the 8 pin power, just 24

elfin warren
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Yeah, just 24 and nothing else

untold canyon
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first try to see if something hapend in you set up

elfin warren
untold canyon
warped scroll
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think ARGB connectors would affect it as well?

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screw it theyre all coming out

elfin warren
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Shouldn't

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Just to be safe unplug all the things

untold canyon
warped scroll
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its completely new lol

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i work with used parts all the time, trust me, i know you can get scammed

elfin warren
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not a scam

untold canyon
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oh

grizzled bloom
untold canyon
warped scroll
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it probably is tbh

elfin warren
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mmmm

warped scroll
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unless im going on two defective USBs

elfin warren
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Just didn't like the last file for some reason

warped scroll
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maybe I can try a different BIOs file

grizzled bloom
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No change when you tried it again? Still just sitting flashing?

warped scroll
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1.7 instead of 1.8

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yeah im leaving it to sit for a few more minutes

untold canyon
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i dont know what i gunna tell yuh never happend wit me

grizzled bloom
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1.70 won't support Ryzen 5000 though

warped scroll
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it wont?

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well screw me ig

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same thing is happening