#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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errant knoll
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Ok sorry i forgot..

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Thank u I appreciate it 😄

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Im just planning to buy b550 motherboard because my motherboard got broked.. and my friend gave me his old mobo and its asus prime b450m-a

pale mist
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U got it

errant knoll
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Should I get b550? Or stick with my currently mobo?

pale mist
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What do u have now?

errant knoll
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This is what im using rn. Should I stick with this or get b550 mobo?

rocky beacon
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Get a budget B550 board

errant knoll
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Ok ok thanks cody!

pale mist
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Ok hold on for a sec

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This WILL work with a 3600

errant knoll
pale mist
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And probably just fine, but no upgradeability

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And those vrms look.... shotty

errant knoll
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Wdym no upgradeablity? Sorry im a noobie 😅

errant knoll
pale mist
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Well, it has upgradeability but just not a good one

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Can’t imagine that thing will play nicely with a 5600x

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Or above

errant knoll
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Hahahaha ok ok thanks donbot!

pale mist
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My advice is to sell the b450, and advertise it as a ryzen mobo

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At least you will get some of your money back

errant knoll
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Yes I will thank u again!

shy wyvern
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Alright so my boss asked me if I could make his old computer a bit faster, it's a 2008 office pc using a G41 motherboard that has only 2GB of ram running windows. It supports up 2x4gb ddr3 1066. If I throw in 2 ddr3 1600 sticks will it down lock them to 1066 or just fail to show up? I know motherboards have gotten better with that over time.

elfin warren
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Depends on the motherboard

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What brand?

shy wyvern
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Asus P5G41 T-M

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I know all modern motherboards do it but this thing's 13 years old and have no clue if down clocking over specced ram was a thing

elfin warren
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maxes out at 1333.

shy wyvern
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Will it not downclock 1600? Those are the cheapest sticks I can find

elfin warren
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It will downclock the 1600 to 1333

shy wyvern
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Aight

elfin warren
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Honestly, that probs won't do a whole lot either

shy wyvern
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The man is running windows 10 on 2gb of ram

elfin warren
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Better investment would be an SSD as well if you want a real speed boost

shy wyvern
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Oh I already have one lined up

elfin warren
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Good

shy wyvern
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I'm not the big stoopid

elfin warren
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That will make the most difference

shy wyvern
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Tbf

elfin warren
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Never said nor assumed you were stupid

shy wyvern
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Ram increase will make a reasonable difference

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Considering he's at 2gb for windows 10

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It literally can't open chrome without using .5 gb of pagefile

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And that's for one blank tab LOL

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Is ddr3L backwards compatible with ddr3 on older chipsets?

elfin warren
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Yes

crimson bison
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ok, i completely forgot to download my drivers for my mobo and cpu

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do i just download them and thats it or do i need to drag em into some sort of folder

elfin warren
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Download, unzip, install

crimson bison
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thats it

elfin warren
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yes

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There's a setup.exe in the unzipped folder

crimson bison
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for mobo which drivers do i need to download

silk vapor
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@void jolt The RAM is purchased!

void jolt
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cool

silk vapor
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@void jolt One thing, regradless of clock speed. Does you need a better CPU to handle the CAS timings or it is just the RAM itself?

shy wyvern
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Alright, Motherboard is an asus P5G41T-M. Cpu is a dual core pentium e5700. Would going to a core2 quad Q9550 be worth it for $25?

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and will it work? It says the g41 chipset supports it but is there somewhere I can find compatible cpus for every motherboard?

rocky beacon
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Why are you spending any money on a Core 2 series

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For $25 you could get a i5-2500

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You can get $13 Dell Optiplex motherboards for 2nd and 3rd gen CPUs

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Do I recommend it, No

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But you could

marble knot
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@shy wyvern ebay look

rocky beacon
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That's not what they are asking at all

shy wyvern
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upgrading boss pc

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everything already in there

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it's a lot easier

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to just slot in a new cpu

rocky beacon
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For that price not really

shy wyvern
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then to try to explain to my boss that I'm throwing out the motherboard

rocky beacon
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Ah

marble knot
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lol

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what os r u running on pc?

rocky beacon
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Q6600 should be super cheap but alright

shy wyvern
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you think it's slower single core would be a problem?

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the e5700 has 30% higher single core performance

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that's why I was thinking q9550

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do you think going from 2 to 4 cores for an office pc running windows 10 will make much of a difference?

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his daughter also occasionally plays roblox on there too

marble knot
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win 10ON A DUAL CORE???

shy wyvern
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it's not too slow actually

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what's keeping it back is the hdd

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I have an ssd on the way

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also

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he's running on 2gb of ram

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and it's the shortest ram sticks I have EVER seen

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they baby ram

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That's my pinky for scale

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Its literally as tall as my pinky it's so short

silk vapor
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Any good games with performance testing features?

naive pendant
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it does kinda tax ur cpu but like it shouldnt be that bad

split copper
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Eugh

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Minecraft RTX

void jolt
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Eugh?

naive pendant
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e u g h

void jolt
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Minecraft RTX looks awesome as hell

naive pendant
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ikr

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only for bedrock tho

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smh

void jolt
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Seus then

naive pendant
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isnt that the one you have to pay for

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ima wait till it's full release

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so it's free

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bsl will probably work fine

naive pendant
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B-die or na?

naive pendant
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i couldn't find what u described

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From what im reading

limber dragon
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4000 16s is lpx

naive pendant
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"3200-14-14 is BDIE"

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Hold on, let me see if i can find a sheet.

limber dragon
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that bin isnt on my sheet because its a generic reve xmp

naive pendant
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Mixed bin?

limber dragon
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that could be bad bdie, or good cjr/djr

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hence the gif

naive pendant
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Yeah i couldn't find that one on pcpp or corsair website

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ig its just on newegg

shy wyvern
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my boss' computer with 2gb of ram, hdd, and a dual core pentium takes 2 minutes and 51 seconds to boot into windows

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I wonder what'll be like with an ssd

rocky beacon
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I'd your buying 4000MHz RAM why LPX

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Get Ballistix or something

naive pendant
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accurate?

limber dragon
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ballistix = 300ns trfc
bdie = 100-150ns trfc

naive pendant
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new to ram so idk

limber dragon
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a few years ago, it would 100% be bdie, but now it can be bdie, or good cjr/djr

fervent shell
grizzled bloom
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You'll want 4000, not 3600

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4000 C16 is good

limber dragon
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if you want 64gb total, just get crucial 2x32s

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64gb of bdie will not run synced at 4000mts

limber dragon
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its more just qrpc is almost impossible

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and 3600 16-22-22-42 1.45v is 💩 compared to 3600 16-18-18-36 1.35v

grizzled bloom
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And yes the lower CAS is definitely worth it

fervent shell
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Thank you for the input!

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That product appears out of stock. Not sure how patient I'll be 😆

limber dragon
fervent shell
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B&H says 4-6 weeks, on back order.

grizzled bloom
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Ah yeah I see that now

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3-5 weeks for me

fervent shell
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Yeah, think thats just a preorder

tall belfry
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Ballistix are still on backorder, it will take time. I waited for so long. Got lucky as Amazon Canada found 1 left in their warehouses

opaque mirage
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I’m not satisfied with asrock polychrome, is there any other rgb software that would play nice with my asrock b550 steel legend and gskill tridentz rgb?

ruby laurel
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openrgb

light valley
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is there anyway to add wifi to a motherboard that isnt usb wifi?

hollow thorn
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Yes, PCIe wireless adapters

elfin warren
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Of course

light valley
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how do i check to see if its compatible with my mobo?

elfin warren
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Your motherboard should hve a short PCI-E slot unless it's ITX

rocky beacon
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Does you motherboard have PCIe slots lmao

hollow thorn
rocky beacon
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You could get a USB one also

hollow thorn
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That uses any PCIe x1, x4, x16 slots

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USB wifi can be wacky

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Some people have decent experiences, most I hear from say the connection is unstable

rocky beacon
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Most I hear is fine

light valley
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mine is terrible

elfin warren
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Is it in a USB 3.0 port?

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If so, try a 2.0 port

rocky beacon
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Make sure its not in a front panel USB connector either

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Could have bad antennas also

light valley
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ive tried every single usb on the backside of the desktop

elfin warren
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how far from the router are you?

light valley
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this is the mobo that i have at the moment

elfin warren
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Add in card might not help

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If a few walls or second floor

light valley
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yea theres a few walls from the pathway of my pc to the router

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but my laptop is fine with the wifi

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but my usb wifi card is straight trash

elfin warren
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Try what Mr1111 linked then

light valley
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would buying a new mobo with built in wifi be better? im wanting to upgrade some components down the road anyways

elfin warren
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Not really

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Expensive

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Just get an add in card

light valley
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is it compatible with all mobos?

rocky beacon
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Yes

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If it has a PCIe slot it should work

light valley
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sorry new to computer terms and whatnot, the PCIe is where the graphics card is right?

rocky beacon
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yes

light valley
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ok

elfin warren
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Thwre are smaller versions too

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Short slots

rocky beacon
elfin warren
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Your motherboard has plenty of slots

light valley
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its not going to get in the way of my graphics card airflow?

rocky beacon
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no

hollow thorn
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Random old mobo, all of these slots

rocky beacon
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Just dont put it right next to the fans

hollow thorn
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Generally it won't be straight up against the GPU anyways

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or you'd have a free slot that's fairly far away from the GPU.

elfin warren
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Their board has 3 x16 slots

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Plenty of room

hollow thorn
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oh definitely then

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it'll do just fine

elfin warren
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Strix b450f

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Lots of room

hollow thorn
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mhm

cyan plank
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What are the chances of a 5600x being fake or something

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And how could you tell

elfin warren
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Fake? More likely you don't get what you pay for

cyan plank
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Friend bought a 5600x way back in nov

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Took months so they just refunded him

elfin warren
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From where?

cyan plank
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But now he got it in the mail

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Uh I think b&h

elfin warren
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Ah, it was a pre-order then

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They do that

cyan plank
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He has 2 and that one he got free

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Should be fine?

elfin warren
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Certainly not a fake if it's from B&H

cyan plank
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I just dont have a motherboard atm to test it

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Didn't want to get it and find out it dont work in like 2 months

long geyser
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It'd be fine cuz you still have AMD warranty tho

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Just means that RMA is slower cuz retailer return is quicker then company return

atomic fulcrum
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i5 10400f or ryzen 5 3600?

void jolt
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10400f with a B560 Pro4

atomic fulcrum
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but i have a b450

void jolt
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thats an AMD board

atomic fulcrum
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or will get a

void jolt
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thats an AMD board

atomic fulcrum
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oh wait i will change it

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i am so dum

void jolt
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an outdated one at that

hollow thorn
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B450 and b460 both useless in new builds now

atomic fulcrum
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so wich one?

atomic fulcrum
void jolt
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10400f with a B560 Pro4

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I said this already

atomic fulcrum
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is that expensive becuase my buget is 800

hollow thorn
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I second that

void jolt
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not at all

atomic fulcrum
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oh ok

void jolt
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not relatively

hollow thorn
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Here's the thing, 3600 is 200$, plus ~100$ for a board
10400f is ~140$, plus ~110$ for a board

atomic fulcrum
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what is better for gaming

hollow thorn
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10400f

void jolt
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10400f

atomic fulcrum
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oh ok

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thx

void jolt
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despite 2 less cores

hollow thorn
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10400f same core count

atomic fulcrum
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what about fortnite i mostly play fornite

hollow thorn
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It's a 6c12t chip

void jolt
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I thought 10400f was 4 core?

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nevermind

hollow thorn
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10400f is just better

void jolt
atomic fulcrum
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oh ok

harsh night
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best value b550 board spend around 150?

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ping with responce

void jolt
main pulsar
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b550 aorus elite v2 kinda hot

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goes on sale sometimes

void jolt
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isnt that the one thats usually $220 or something?

harsh night
main pulsar
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if it were crap would I have suggested it? and yeah if it's 180 now then meh, but it go on sale alot

harsh night
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did i say that was 180

void jolt
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oh wait

harsh night
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read my guy read

void jolt
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thought you were talking about the TUF one

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thought you pinged the wrong message KEK

hollow venture
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Can anyone suggest a simple inexpensive (relatively newish) CPU to buy on newegg's site? say under $500 with ability to plug in 2 monitors (with windows 10 pro and better then 8 gb ram, and faster then 3.4 ghz

void jolt
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uh

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most CPUs dont have iGPUs anymore

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do you have a dedicated GPU?

elfin warren
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I think they want a whole computer

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CPU = tower

void jolt
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thats not...

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ok

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whatever

hollow venture
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Sorry, realized you guys are all experts. I am more of a novice. And yes, I do need a computer as a whole (thank you vintage racer)

limber dragon
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I mean, you can get a 10400 and use both igpu display outs

void jolt
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10400f

limber dragon
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under $500 for a whole tower would be better off with a prebuilt or something

magic cedar
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oh lmao

void jolt
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10400f iGPU best iGPU

magic cedar
limber dragon
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10400 nonF

void jolt
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heh

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is joke

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hence bean

quasi rose
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Hi guys, very new to PC building. I have an Asus Prime h310M-E R2.0 motherboard with am Intel Core i7-9700f processor. I purchased 3200MHZ ram but the motherboard only supports up to 2666. Can you tell me what micro atx motherboard will be able to run 3200 RAM and support my CPU?

elfin warren
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SOmething with a Z370 chipset

limber dragon
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or z390 should work too

lavish aspen
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What should I do if my mobo doesn’t come with the screws?

elfin warren
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Screws for what

lavish aspen
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Dont mother boards come with screws?

elfin warren
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No

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Those come with the case

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Only screws motherboard has are M.2 drives

lavish aspen
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OMFG I’m so sorry this is the biggest mistake ive made ty

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It’s my first time so I’m new to this my fault sorry for the time east

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Waste

elfin warren
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not a waste

void jolt
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As far as I’ve seen, most screws come in the drive bay of a case in a cardboard container

potent dew
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So my dad and I were putting a new mobo in his PC and he was trying to pull the USB front panel connector out and it pulled the plastic part off that hold it in place (pins are fine) ... should we just be able to put it back on?

naive pendant
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thats like the easiest way to damage those pins

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just plug it in without the plastic

potent dew
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Okay

elfin warren
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No

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Or the USB 2.0?

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OK

naive pendant
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its the big one that plugs in under gpu right

elfin warren
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2.0 is fine for that but if it's the big 3.0 Blue one, I would not

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Those cables are chonk

naive pendant
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This?

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i plugged mine in without the plastic bit you see on the right side

potent dew
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USB 3

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Is it worth trying at all or nah @elfin warren @naive pendant?

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I mean if he got it back on at all would it be doing anything?

naive pendant
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i wouldn't try to put the plastic back on from experience

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nearly broke my connector

elfin warren
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Best make sure that cable is pointing straight up and down so it doesn't bend pins

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be careful with it

naive pendant
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^

potent dew
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Okay. Thanks guys.

long acorn
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Okay, any guys with 15+ years experience under their belt, who's familiar with a B450 + Ryzen Matisse-based 3800x processor (stock cooler)?
I have a friend who has an issue, of which the go-to solution is currently eluding me due to FRIED BRAINS and a high fever over 102F ...
His issue is that he says the processor is REALLY slow, the change was night and day.
I have told him to reset CMOS by loading the optimized defaults after checking and writing down for later his boot order priorities.
I told him to use DDU (via Guru3d dot com), after downloading a new nvidia (1080) driver, to blast out the old one and restart once or twice and install the new one (due to possibly a latency issue which'll show up in latencymon)
This is happening in most all games, if not all. This leads me to think it might be an issue with his aging 1080 8gb card (or it's drivers!) which was bought soon are it came out / new.
Could a Winblows 10 update have caused this / did anyone else have that happen / how did you fix if so?
System is using a stock cooler, has an ample PSU, fans appear to be working and it was recently cleaned this past month about a week ago. Plenty of RAM, 3200mhz CL16 32gb worth (2x 16gb sticks).

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Things are running 1/2 to 1/3rd speed, sometimes slower. I asked him if maybe someone replaced his trusty Ryzen with a intel CPU, and to look for a mysteriously appeared intel logo on the case, and he sweats he's still using Ryzen CPU.

elfin warren
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SOunds like a virus. My 3700x still speedy as ever.

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use Task manager and check processes as well as some kind of OSD in games

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Also check task manager to make sure his ram didn't default to 2133 some how

long acorn
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Yeah my 3950x is still going strong as is my 3700x which is living in it's box until I get my Steaming-pile-of-ASRock motherboard back from RMA pergatory.

elfin warren
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Also run something like CrystalDisk to make sure the disk isn't taking a dump

long acorn
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(shame on me not using Asus the first time like I did all the other times I built a computer for ME)... I will have him try Windows defender scan and then a commercial/open-source antivirus if the first pulls up nothing.
He says it's constant, even on games that aren't using disc access, not a barrage of hitching or low-fps sections while new chunks of scenery get paged to ram/vram from disk c: and rendered on-screen.
I've actually seen a disk really mess up Windows performance and said game performance a number of times though, especially if the controller host chip + drive firmware are trying to figure out what the heck is going wrong by constantly re-reading the disk. so it's not to say it's doubtful, it's not very common, but I will instruct him to get latency monitor and a look at the RAM speed.

limber dragon
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could also check if he ever installed chipset drivers

elfin warren
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I'm wondering if BIOS removed the XMP

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Just use Task Manger

limber dragon
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clearing cmos probably did, but it wouldnt be night and day difference

elfin warren
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Probs not

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Still seems like a hallmark Virus issue

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Like a miner virus

long acorn
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yeah i was thinking miner virus too

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Would there be any way 'slightly bent' CPU pins could cause this?

elfin warren
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Not unless they've taken it out

long acorn
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He's trying to tell me 'it's because CPU pins are bent' ... he's not very skilled at hardware but can do game modding stuff. He could have messed up the thermal paste too if he took it out.

elfin warren
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I mean, if they took it out and then the problems started, sure. But this came out of nowhere.

limber dragon
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am4 pins dont randomly get bent

long acorn
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Yeah I hear you @limber dragon @elfin warren but to be honest trying to get him to do something that will fix the issue or otherwise mitigate symptoms, is about as enjoyable as peeing on a grease fire... Thank-you for the help though.

elfin warren
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Dollars to donuts it's malware

limber dragon
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see if he's open to making a fresh os on a second drive or something, would tell you if its software or hardware

long acorn
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Yeah that's 95% chance what it is, I think he sometimes does not obtain his software from legitimate means - something I'd have a hard time respecting.

long acorn
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When I can't fix an issue quickly, an OS re-install fixes 98% of stuff, it is very seldom hardware related unless the case was opened by inexperienced users / or opened by dissatisfied Karens looking for a manager.

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Well I will let y'all know what it is if / when we find a solution. Sucks living 100's of miles away from the end-user with the issue, but can't always have it easy now can we?

elfin warren
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Teamviewer

long acorn
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I'm not even sure my internet could stream something as little as Tank Wars in Dos Box, it's that terrible, let alone my whole desktop

elfin warren
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I used Teamviewer on 7 down and 1 up

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It'll work

long acorn
sudden gate
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soooo . . . pcpartpicker had the wrong amazon link for a memory kit.
10 points awarded to the person who can guess how I found that out.

I could have sworn I checked the amazon page to make sure it was the correct kit . . .
Honestly not sure what the latency is or the colors are on the kit yet, I just know that, according to the reviews, the amazon page has had a history of incorrect product information, and I'll have to figure out what I ordered when it gets here.

ruby laurel
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ebay is always an option if you end up needing to get rid of it

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but amazon is really good about returns

sudden gate
ruby laurel
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you can just edit it out :))

limber dragon
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||amazon accepts returns||

sudden gate
ruby laurel
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yeah amazon actually accepts returns

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unlike another online retailer

limber dragon
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and if it hasnt been delivered yet, you can cancel the order

lavish aspen
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Hey y’all I got a refurbished MOBO on Amazon and it didn’t come w the IO shield any suggestions?

lavish aspen
sudden gate
lavish aspen
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Ye

ocean phoenix
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if they don't respond you can probably find it on ebay

lavish aspen
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Kk

void jolt
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I/O shield isn’t necessary btw

ruby laurel
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it shields the i/o

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also makes it so your pc doesnt get omega dusty

glossy dust
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ripjaws v or ballistix?

naive pendant
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only good use for ballistix ram

naive pendant
glossy dust
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ok ok ic

hollow thorn
gentle lily
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ok I'm curious about something

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I got an i7 10700k

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and on the bottom of the box

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theres some right angles cut into the card

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and idk why it's there. I've done a tiny bit of research but I cant find anything

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I wanna show a pic but idk where to do that

tawdry pendant
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guys im planning to stream and game at the same time and i just wanted to know is the R5 3600 enough or should i get R7 3700x, or should i get i7-10400k?

elfin warren
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SHould get an nVidia GPU and let that do the encoding if using those processors

tawdry pendant
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yeah im getting a 1660 super, it sells for 200 dollars in my country

elfin warren
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10400F beats out the 3600 though FPS wise

tawdry pendant
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im more of an amd user tho so i might get r5 instead if the performance levels arent that different

naive pendant
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Why can’t I find a mobo that has 8 ram slots that can work with the i9-10900k

magic cedar
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why do you need 8 ram slots

naive pendant
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Cause why not

magic cedar
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thats dumb

naive pendant
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So?

magic cedar
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so get a normal mobo

naive pendant
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Why when I have the budget

magic cedar
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im guessing you dont even have 8 ram sticks

naive pendant
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To get something stupid.

elfin warren
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Because such a thing doesn't exist

magic cedar
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then upgrade to a 5900x or something

elfin warren
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8 slots only applies to HEDT/Workstation CPU's with quad channel

naive pendant
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Ahhh ok so quad channel availability is based on the cpu.

elfin warren
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Yes

naive pendant
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I dunno doing those bottleneck sims the i9 seemed to be the sweet spot in terms of cores/thread amount and speed. And resulted in less cpu bottleneck vs higher thread CPU’s

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Ohhh I haven’t done the bottleneck comparison between the i9 or 5900x I’ll do that now. Thought I did.

elfin warren
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Bottleneck sims are poo

naive pendant
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They are? Well damn.

elfin warren
#

Check real benchmarks and tests

#

Oops, CPU-monkey is good

#

They use Cinebench, GeekBench and Blender tests

#

bottlenecking is a term that should be abolished from the internet, IMO

naive pendant
#

Part picker says the ram I have requires too much power for the 5900x? That makes no sense. Wtf

elfin warren
#

WDYM

naive pendant
#

Note:The G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory operating voltage of 1.45 V exceeds the AMD Zen 3 CPU recommended maximum of 1.35 V+7% (1.444 V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.35 V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the AMD recommended maximum.

elfin warren
#

Never seen that

naive pendant
#

is there any b550 board that i wont need to bios for the 5600x or have a flashback button?

elfin warren
#

It's a load of hooey anyway

naive pendant
#

i dont have a pc to bios it on

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

Pretty much every B550 board has a flashback button

naive pendant
#

does the velocita have one?

elfin warren
#

Except the super cheap ones

naive pendant
#

I’ll just stick with the i9 probably won’t notice much of a difference right now anyways.

#

that one looks pretty sweet

naive pendant
#

Well yeah but I already have the ram lol

elfin warren
#

So? it's fine to use with AMD

#

Whatever PCPp says is a load of crap

naive pendant
#

amd is cool

elfin warren
#

Cuz I'm running it right now with my 3700x

naive pendant
#

so is intel but like

#

amd is cooler

#

What mobo are you using with the 3700

elfin warren
#

X570 TUF

naive pendant
#

x570 woah what a rich boi

elfin warren
#

Nah, it wasn't that expensive

#

Like, $170 at the time

#

IDK if the Velocita has Flashback

#

I don't see a button for it anywhere

#

reading manual now

summer marsh
#

hi is amd ryzen 5 3600 good now?

elfin warren
#

10400F better

#

Cheaper and more performance

summer marsh
#

ok thank you

elfin warren
naive pendant
#

hm

#

any recommendations then?

elfin warren
#

Stand by

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Get a B560 motherboard

#

and 3200 mhz ram

#

And all set

elfin warren
summer marsh
#

no im not even close to one

elfin warren
#

Me neither

naive pendant
#

i have an i7-9700k should i switch to a 3600XT?

elfin warren
#

makes me sad :/

elfin warren
#

And no

#

Roughly same performance

naive pendant
#

ew 3600xt

#

get a 5600x

#

with a nice cooler

#

and save some money with that

elfin warren
#

20% boost

naive pendant
#

also the 9700k is fine

elfin warren
#

Debatable if it's worth tho

naive pendant
#

yes

#

but it's the best you can get rn

naive pendant
naive pendant
naive pendant
#

it's pretty debatable but like

#

ehhhhh

elfin warren
#

not in stock for a hot minute tho, just noticed that. -_-

elfin warren
naive pendant
#

im planning on updating my setup. i want to switch to an AMD chip would this be worth the investment? and if so what cpu, ram, and mobo should i invest in?

elfin warren
#

Dpeends on budget and what you have now

summer marsh
#

that motherboard doesnt support 10400f?

elfin warren
#

It does but it's expensive

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

At that price point, Intel is king

elfin warren
summer marsh
#

yes

#

i mean i cant order from newegg

elfin warren
#

Ah

#

Understood

summer marsh
#

i know

#

im so sad newegg is better but oh well..

naive pendant
#

i was planning on buying the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F and an AMD chip but im starting to think maybe my problem is my ram and dying harddrive

elfin warren
summer marsh
#

nice

naive pendant
#

would windows start stuttering and getting slow if the C: drive its installed in was dying?

summer marsh
#

@elfin warren i know u've sent me a very good cooler but i didint saved the link

#

for the cpu

naive pendant
#

also is the 3900X better than the I7-9700k? i honestly have no idea?

elfin warren
#

What?

#

it is here -_-

summer marsh
#

it says:

elfin warren
summer marsh
#

Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

#

is this good at its price?

elfin warren
#

Oh yeah

#

kept a 5900x at 67C under Cinebench load

summer marsh
#

holy a 5900x??

elfin warren
#

Should do fantastic for the 10400F and even an upgraded CPU

#

Ye

summer marsh
#

thats insane

elfin warren
#

I know right?

#

Looped cinebench too, not just a single run

summer marsh
#

and i saw those videos with pump thing kraken cooler

#

on a fking i7 10th

elfin warren
#

Kraken is so overpriced

summer marsh
#

i know

elfin warren
#

$150 extra for a little LCD screen

#

and not even great cooling

summer marsh
#

i swear to god ppl buy these for good looks XD

elfin warren
summer marsh
elfin warren
#

no

#

Glass front, fans 0.5 inch from the front panel

#

Yikes

summer marsh
#

yea true

#

what case should i buy

summer marsh
#

ok

summer marsh
#

i dont really care if its ugly

#

im not looking at the pc when im playing games

elfin warren
#

ugly is subjective so

summer marsh
#

yea

#

100 dollars is it worth it?

elfin warren
#

For?

#

They show $85 for me

summer marsh
#

at me its 100dollars wtf

elfin warren
#

Cable management is Meh for that one but it works

hollow thorn
#

Give mx-330-g air or neo air some love smh

summer marsh
#

x2 mesh what does this mean

#

57 dollars and it looks good

elfin warren
#

I looked for it

hollow thorn
#

They're usually on wegg

#

Wegg isn't loading for me again for some reason

elfin warren
#

They can't buy from Wegg

hollow thorn
#

Well, amazon isn't loading either... What's their budget?

#

@elfin warren sadly no, it's the mx330-g AIR that comes with fans

#

Mx330-g air was on b&h too if that's usable

hollow thorn
#

Yea it's 55$ on wegg last I checked

#

Sad

elfin warren
#

Yeah, that's why I passed on it on Amazon

summer marsh
#

can you send me another case that one is unavaible for me

hollow thorn
#

@summer marsh where are you?

summer marsh
#

im eu

hollow thorn
#

What country

#

It'd mostly be either amazon.uk for uk, alternate for the lowlands, amazon.de for central eu, proshop.de for scandinavia, for the retailers we could check for you

#

Romania?

summer marsh
#

yes

hollow thorn
summer marsh
#

de is for central?

#

i think yes

hollow thorn
#

Amazon.de ships to the UAE, if they don't ship to Romania, they're being dumb...

summer marsh
#

in romania everything is overpriced

#

so overpriced

hollow thorn
lone loom
#

amazon.de does ship to Romania the shipping rates will just be a bit higher unless ofcourse you have amazon prime

summer marsh
#

ill get amazon prime no problem

#

i found i5 10400f for 134 euros

#

and it does ship to romania no problem

elfin warren
#

That will work for the 10400F, might not be enough for a better CPU

hollow thorn
#

It should do fine, iirc same as gammaxx 400, except rgb fan

summer marsh
#

ok

#

@elfin warren i cant find any segotep psu on amazon.de ah

elfin warren
#

Enough for what GPU?

summer marsh
#

for a 1660 super/ti

#

the gpu is the hard part obviously.. ah

elfin warren
#

More than enough but consider a 650W for future upgrades

summer marsh
#

ok

#

now ill try to find a case

naive pendant
#

Anyone tell me about the core i7 extreme edition? Why is it 1600

hollow thorn
#

@elfin warren uh that smart rgb is same tier as smart 80+

#

@naive pendant and what do you mean?

#

1600$?

elfin warren
hollow thorn
#

Just warning, I'm going to find a good psu on amazon.de now, since wifi seems to be working now

elfin warren
#

Yeah, it's Tier D

#

Shoulda mentioned that I guess

hollow thorn
#

god damn it I spoke too early

elfin warren
hollow thorn
#

why does discord work but all the retailers don't

elfin warren
#

Then click the flag

#

?

hollow thorn
#

still nope

#

a minute later

#

something is wrong with wifi speeds

#

there we go

#

finally

#

next step up is TXm or Formula gold at ~90 euros

summer marsh
rocky beacon
#

Sure

summer marsh
#

no oc right?

elfin warren
#

Even with an OC it's fine

#

650W is more than enough

#

That'll do 3060TI no problem

#

3070 too probs

summer marsh
#

if i can get one :/

elfin warren
#

Room to upgrade 😉

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

3070 pulls 220W or so

#

mebbe a bit more

#

not much more than a 3060TI

summer marsh
summer marsh
elfin warren
#

no

#

Not the Thermaltake

summer marsh
#

thermaltake is a scam?

#

i mean is a bad product?

elfin warren
#

That particular PSU is bad

rocky beacon
#

That model aint the greatest

elfin warren
#

ThermalTake Grands are the good ones

summer marsh
#

oh ok then

rocky beacon
#

They do have some good models

#

PSU Tier list is a great resource

elfin warren
#

Toughpower Grands IIRC

rocky beacon
#

For what CPU?

summer marsh
#

10400f

rocky beacon
#

Get a B560 Pro4

summer marsh
#

ok ill try to find one

elfin warren
#

Not sure they're available on Amazon in Romania

#

I searched

rocky beacon
#

Should be in stock soon

summer marsh
#

so how do i search

#

i cant find it

rocky beacon
#

Not in stock and overpriced on amazon.de for some reason

summer marsh
#

can u show me i want to see how it looks

rocky beacon
#

Yes

summer marsh
#

100dollars? thats cheap

elfin warren
#

ye

summer marsh
#

whats the difference between z and b

elfin warren
#

B doesn't allow CPU overclock, Z does

summer marsh
#

aa ok

#

but it allows gpu

#

and have 1 m2 slot i see its good

elfin warren
#

2 M.2 slots

#

Only one has a cover tho

summer marsh
#

why only one has cover

elfin warren
#

because that's how most motherboards are

#

The heatsink isn't really needed unless Gen 4 drive

summer marsh
#

i thought there was a specific reason

elfin warren
#

it's a heatsink but only needed for Gen 4 drives

#

Most Gen 3 drives are fine without one

summer marsh
#

a ok

naive pendant
#

smh

summer marsh
naive pendant
#

just put a waterblock on the ssd

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

not necessary lol

naive pendant
#

corsair makes a waterblock for ssd lol

elfin warren
#

Keep an NVME drive TOO cool isn't good either

summer marsh
smoky geode
#

are southbridges and northbridges a thing of the past? I read that the northbridge is just being implemented into the cpu die itself. is that true?

smoky geode
#

so a modern mobo wouldnt have either?

rocky beacon
#

Now its just the chipset

elfin warren
#

it has a chipset, technically a southbridge of sorts

smoky geode
#

so thermal energy has gotten more concentrated right

rocky beacon
#

What

elfin warren
#

No

smoky geode
#

chipset is near the processor whereas south and northbridge would be on either sides of the board right

elfin warren
#

?

#

Chipset is on the bottom of the board

#

Nowhere near CPU

smoky geode
#

oh okay

elfin warren
#

memory controller is on the CPU itself

rocky beacon
#

Some boards had the northbridge under the CPU above the PCIe slots

naive pendant
#

m.2 slot doesn't let them do that anymore though no?

elfin warren
#

I mean, there is the Super I/O chip which is also a southbridge of sorts, handling some IO

rocky beacon
summer marsh
naive pendant
#

atleast for x570

smoky geode
#

isnt water cooling for an m2 kinda overkill

rocky beacon
elfin warren
naive pendant
#

overkill for current SSDs

summer marsh
naive pendant
#

intel chipsets dumb

smoky geode
naive pendant
#

atleast b560 will let mem oc

smoky geode
#

really

elfin warren
#

Oh yeah

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

Everything changed

naive pendant
#

ddr4

#

am4

smoky geode
#

wow so not only quantitative improvements in existing hardware but the hardware itself changing

elfin warren
#

indeed

naive pendant
smoky geode
#

and im assuming this change has accelerated as time goes on

naive pendant
#

if you smell plastic burning thats small side effect

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

AMD is more steady

naive pendant
#

if only intel actually got their production process to work

#

kek

smoky geode
#

has graphics cards hardware changed as much as motherboards hardware over the same amount of time

elfin warren
#

indeedy

#

Everything has changed

rocky beacon
#

For sure

elfin warren
#

big time

rocky beacon
#

Bigger coolers, bigger VRMs and whatnot

smoky geode
#

i watched a video of nvidias cards changing since the 90s... was crazy to see how things were

rocky beacon
#

I have a Nvidia GPU from 1999

smoky geode
#

😮 show

rocky beacon
#

RIVA TNT M64

smoky geode
#

damnnnnnn how much did ou pay for this

rocky beacon
summer marsh
#

hey cody i only can find the B550 pro on amazon not the B560, is it because its not available? i want to have the link page to buy it when its in stock

rocky beacon
#

B550 Pro is a AMD Motherboard

smoky geode
#

thats so cool

#

would be cool to have a collection of old parts

summer marsh
#

cody can u give me a link to the 560mb even tho its not available i want to have the link page

elfin warren
#

There aren't any on Amazon right now

#

I've searched

summer marsh
#

a ok then

smoky geode
#

have you guys gotten into the progression of VR headsets

#

computational wise

#

pretty hard problems when you think about the space and cooling

elfin warren
#

Just displays

#

The GPU does all the hard work

#

The ones that aren't GPU powered are literally a smartphone in a headset

summer marsh
elfin warren
#

yes, very

elfin warren
#

External GPU case

summer marsh
#

oh

elfin warren
#

yeah, mostly for laptops and things

gentle lily
#

theres alot more to it than displays

elfin warren
#

Depends on the VR system you have

gentle lily
#

I mean

#

does it?

summer marsh
#

ok i need to find a good ssd maybe m2 is good?

#

or should i get a ssd not m2

elfin warren
summer marsh
#

can you give me a link?

summer marsh
#

ah

elfin warren
#

It is but kinda spendy

summer marsh
#

how much is the pilot e

#

or should be

elfin warren
#

Around $100 here in the states, so 100-100 Euros for 1 TB?

summer marsh
#

yes thats very good

#

135 euros atm

#

so i will wait for the price to go down?

elfin warren
#

Or it to come back in stock

#

Or get the Samsung, it's a good drive too

summer marsh
#

ok ill wait

#

then was m2 added?

#

to mb

elfin warren
#

What do you mean?

#

motherboard has 2 M.2 slots

summer marsh
#

the slot

#

what year

#

was added for the first time

elfin warren
#

OH

#

I honestly don't know

summer marsh
#

ok now ill need a gpu but i dont think ill find any gpu at a good price anytime soon right?

elfin warren
#

I have no idea what the UK market is like lol

#

I know in Australia they are on the shelves

summer marsh
#

on uk is very good

#

an 3060ti survived 10 minutes

elfin warren
#

Ok, same as here then LOL

summer marsh
#

XD

gentle lily
#

currys had a bunch of 1660 supers available

#

for like a week

#

and then they were all sold out

devout mothBOT
#
rmn#5203 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gentle lily
#

L

#

my cpu came with hitman 3

#

but it needs egs

#

big sad

slate phoenix
#

I need a mobo with 2 m.2 slots and 2 sata things
pairing with i7 8700k

eager shore
#

do you already have a motherboard?

#

i'm asking cuz it's not that expensive to get a pcie to m.2 and a pcie to sata adapter compared to buying a new motherboard

#

@slate phoenix

candid mango
#

is Z590-A gaming wifi bad ???

pale mist
#

Probably not

brazen peak
#

$69 for i9-1234k

manic hull
#

nice

ruby laurel
cyan plank
#

anyone know any good motherboards for a 5600x thats like preferably under 200

#

150 or something

naive pendant
slate phoenix
grizzled bloom
candid flax
#

Been looking at the asus tuf x570 gaming pro. Supposed to compete with tomahawk and their own strix line too at a cheaper price. Only thing i don't like is that the previous edition has a nice cool looking io shroud and the pro doesn't

naive pendant
#

ayo poggers?

void jolt
#

yeah its cheap rn

#

from BH

eager shore
#

yeee

candid flax
#

I saw that earlier

vivid lynx
#

good to hear that 3000 series ryzen are getting smart access memory granted if you have a 6000 series gpu

void jolt
#

yep

#

pretty lit

naive pendant
#

10100 vs 10400 vs 10400F?

void jolt
#

10100 is 4 core, usually used in laptops

#

10400 and 10400f are the same 6c 12t, but the 10400f has no integrated graphics and is therefore quite a bit cheaper

naive pendant
#

ah

#

thanks

upper linden
#

Hello everyone, referred here by Newegg tech support, who said they didn't know anything about products.....I'm looking for a motherboard with the following requirements. Form factor: MITX - Processor: Intel Celeron N2930 or better (built into the motherboard) - Product Lifespan & support: 3-5 years - On-board power - Fanless - Supports 8GB RAM - Price around $200 USD - MBR (master boot record) compatible....are you guys actual Newegg employees?

void jolt
#

no

#

lmao

#

only mike

elfin warren
#

No one here is an actual Newegg employee

void jolt
#

and 3 others

upper linden
#

wtf...so does newegg not have anyone knowledgeable & available to help find products?

void jolt
#

we probs know more than most actual employees tho

eager shore
#

us

elfin warren
#

That's what we are here for

upper linden
#

truth

eager shore
#

so you want the board to have the on board celeron and passively cooled?

upper linden
#

correct

void jolt
#

I dont know if something like that exists

#

lets see

upper linden
#

something similar to Jetway NF9N or ASRock IMB 151

rocky beacon
#

I'm sure you could get one of these embeded Celerons for super cheap on ebay

elfin warren
rocky beacon
#

I mean with the motherboards lmao

elfin warren
#

nah, it's a NUC board for the most part

upper linden
#

Yeah, that NF9N on Amazon is sold by MITXPC (our current supplier)...they don't actually have any of those boards in stock. LOL

eager shore
upper linden
elfin warren
#

PSU built in?

upper linden
#

ARound $200

rocky beacon
#

Just get a PicoITX or whatever

upper linden
#

PSU built in, correct, like on that Jetway NF9N amazon link

upper linden
eager shore
#

tbh, the one i linked fitted all your needs, lemme see if there's any cheaper alternatives on other websites

rocky beacon
#

This would be a great combo

upper linden
eager shore
#

ahhh i see

magic field
#

All I need is a Dark Hero and I can start building my all ROG rig😭

topaz reef
#

@upper linden whats your use going to be? thats a pretty old cpu

#

J4125 is essentially a 4 year old cpu, intel should have new chips out soon tho

#

Tremont keeps getting pushed back iirc

elfin warren
#

NOICE!!!

#

No but I will recommend it to others 🙂

rocky beacon
#

Pro4 in stock finally awesome

boreal umbra
#

I5 10400f is the best budget cpu atm no?

rocky beacon
#

depends on your budget but yeah

boreal umbra
#

Ok

rocky beacon
#

B560 Pro4 and that CPU is a great pairing

boreal umbra
#

Like 1000

magic cedar
#

yea pretty much

magic cedar
rocky beacon
#

Theres alot of things I dislike about this board but its a great budget board

magic cedar
#

^

rocky beacon
#

The branding all over it is pretty ugly imo

#

Not sure why they did the SATA ports like this?

#

It has a Type C header which is amazing

magic cedar
#

normally i would expect the 24 pin around there

rocky beacon
#

Wow it has a specific place for M.2 wifi

#

This board is better than I thought tbh

boreal umbra
#

Is the 5600x at msrp best cpu for 1500$ budget?

rocky beacon
#

I love this also, it helps for better cable management depending on the case you are building in

magic cedar
rocky beacon
#

10700k is pretty good if you can get it for $300

#

Better stock than the 5600X but I have seen the 5600X in stock alot recently

magic cedar
#

10850k is very good if you can get it for $350

#

if your near a microcenter or smt

boreal umbra
#

My micro center is like empty lmao

#

Then again I live in an area where tech is pretty big

nova hornet
#

I think the sata ports are like that so a big gpu doesn't block them

zealous socket
#

I've been seeing the 5800x in stock VERY frequently (sometimes for days at a time), and the 5600x still pops in and then back out of stock with 5 min or so, but that happens almost daily and its gettable

#

5900x is not

#

(Online at least)

loud escarp
#

would different firmware versions on my memory cause issues like my computer having random shut offs?

rancid nest
#

I just built my pc installed drivers and everything when I try launching a game on steam it says launching and than nothing happens how do I fix this

pale mist
#

Hmm, thats tough

#

I think software problem, this happens on every game and only steam games right @rancid nest

#

If not play around

#

If still doesn’t work roll back drivers and there is a very slight chance this is a power thing

#

Or just a failure

rancid nest
#

@pale mist yes only steam games

#

I don’t know what to do

#

Wym roll back drivers

slow rover
#

Whats the best CPU I can get for an LGA 2011 dual socket motherboard? Im using this for minecraft hosting and rendering, planning to throw an nvidia tesla k80 in there

glossy dust
#

uh

#

is this all the board's fan headers?

#

MSI MAG B560m Bazooka

#

should be right?

main pulsar
#

thats what ya working with on that board

#

at max, your average fan draws like .5A

#

so you can realistically get splitters and run like 12 fans off those 4 headers

glossy dust
#

so.....

#

up to 3 case fans on-board?

main pulsar
#

however you wanna do it

#

you got 4 headers

#

how many fans you got

#

if its more than 4, you need to buy a splitter

glossy dust
#

oh

#

4 including the cpu fan?

main pulsar
#

that total includes CPU fans or an AIO cpu block

glossy dust
#

oh

#

so up to 3 case fans only huh

main pulsar
#

yes

glossy dust
#

should be fine ig

main pulsar
#

how many case fans you got

glossy dust
#

it's non rgb so ig it won't hurt

#

oh still canvassing

main pulsar
#

well, its enough for 2 intake one rear exhaust

glossy dust
#

but i placed 4 arctic p12

#

and 1 se224xt

#

thanks tho

#

no need to buy fan hub

main pulsar
#

4 pin splitters are super cheap

glossy dust
#

welp ig so

#

if i buy it with the mobo and cpu on the shop ig it'll take less

main pulsar
#

or just buy one less case fan

#

save money

glossy dust
#

yep

#

3 arctic p12s

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should be fine ig

sudden gate
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finally ordered some memory. hopefully everything works and my pc can stop crying for more ram

drowsy tiger
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how much do u have rn?

atomic fiber
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whats the name of i5-5250u chipset

hollow thorn
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uh

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it's a bga chip