#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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crimson bison
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And that’s abt it

elfin warren
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Then do that

crimson bison
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And then what

elfin warren
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transfer data

crimson bison
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WAIT

elfin warren
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Register WIndows 10 key with an MS account

crimson bison
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Can i install amd drivers onto nvme

elfin warren
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so for the new install you just need to sign in and activate

marble knot
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1.get an empty storage device
2.clone your drive to the empty sd
3.redo 1 drive
4.transfer data back onto the fresh drive

crimson bison
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And gigabyte drivers

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That’s going to take so long cause it’s an hdd, and it’s abt 900gb of storage

marble knot
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so do it over night

crimson bison
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Can I download drivers onto the nvme somehow?

marble knot
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wait...

crimson bison
marble knot
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oh

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wait how many drives do u have and what 4?

crimson bison
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Can I just download the drivers directly onto the nvme

marble knot
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idk srry

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u can try

crimson bison
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Oh no vintage dipped

marble knot
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what r u trying 2 do?

crimson bison
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Boot my computer 🤣

marble knot
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do u know whats wrong?

crimson bison
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No drivers on cpu and mobo and am trying to boot with existing windows

marble knot
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oh

crimson bison
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Display shows that it says it’s missing opperating system

marble knot
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u swaped components?

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hmmm

crimson bison
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Yes the whole pc except gpu and storage

marble knot
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oh

crimson bison
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And changed CPUs

marble knot
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change the boot menu to boot from nvme first

crimson bison
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@elfin warren

marble knot
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instead of ssd

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go into ur boot menu

crimson bison
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I need to go to bios makes sense

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Ok

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Lemme plug keyboard

devout mothBOT
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русский стандарт#3080 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

marble knot
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vintage is eating dinner

crimson bison
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I mis wrote sec

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For and x

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Ok my b

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Awesome

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Can you help in vc please

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@marble knot

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Cause now it’s gets confusing in bios

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Wait

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Ok I chose my nvme and it still says missing operating system

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Should I try and boot of my sata?

marble knot
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general 1

marble knot
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hi

azure sage
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Hi

marble knot
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dm the pycc guy ok?

azure sage
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What?

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Just ask your questions here

marble knot
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he needs video

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not good with texts

azure sage
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? To install windows?

marble knot
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yep

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he ll tell u the probs

azure sage
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I can just link you a video of how to install windows

void jolt
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Just look up a YouTube video

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Easy

crimson bison
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Dude it’s kinda more confusing then just installing windows

marble knot
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hes here

crimson bison
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I’m having problems with a drive and I alr wiped it

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🤦‍♂️

void jolt
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Ok

azure sage
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Watch this

void jolt
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What exactly is your problem

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I need more info

crimson bison
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You kind if I call one of you guys

marble knot
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there help 4 u

void jolt
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Just text

marble knot
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hes not good with text

crimson bison
crimson bison
void jolt
crimson bison
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Mhm

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I can’t download windows from the usb onto my nvme that I just wiped

void jolt
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Look up how to reinstall windows on YouTube

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Ez

crimson bison
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Tried installing nvme drivers and still didn’t recognize them

void jolt
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You don’t need to do that

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Look up how to reinstall windows on YouTube

crimson bison
void jolt
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Oh

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Press format

crimson bison
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still click format?

void jolt
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Format it

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Needs to be NTFS

crimson bison
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I did

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Still says no can do

void jolt
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Send a video of trying to do that

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You have nitro

crimson bison
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Yea

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So?

void jolt
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Delete the partition, then format it

crimson bison
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Still nope

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Delete

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Create new

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Format

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Refresh

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Nothing

void jolt
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Send me a video of that

crimson bison
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I tried this with awesome

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It didn’t work

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So?

void jolt
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Huh

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You already deleted everything off it?

crimson bison
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Mhm

void jolt
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Can you put it in another PC or something?

crimson bison
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Are you kidding

void jolt
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No

crimson bison
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It’s completely cleared

void jolt
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I need to make sure it’s not broken in windows

crimson bison
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It’s not, it was working before

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It was my boot drive before

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I was switched CPUs companies which is why I wiped it

void jolt
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I need to see it in drive manager

crimson bison
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In bios?

void jolt
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No

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Windows drive management

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In the OS

crimson bison
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How tf am I supposed to access that

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I have no operating system installed

void jolt
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Like I said, try and put it in another machine

crimson bison
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Does it make a difference if I install os on sata or nvme

crimson bison
void jolt
crimson bison
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VINTAGE

void jolt
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Unless vintage has to say something

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I might be doing this wrong

crimson bison
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@elfin warren pls I’m begging you help

void jolt
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He’s not going to be doing anything I’m not doing already

crimson bison
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Or someone please

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Then what do i do

void jolt
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Download it on the SATA drive

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This might be a slightly lengthy process

crimson bison
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Same issue

void jolt
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Keep in mind, this will wipe anything on the drive

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Oh?

crimson bison
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Do I need to format it?

void jolt
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Yes?

crimson bison
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🤦‍♂️

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Same issue

void jolt
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Try restarting the reinstall

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Cancelling it

long geyser
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delete all partitions

crimson bison
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Nothing

long geyser
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dont format

crimson bison
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Already formatted

long geyser
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select what drive you are installing Win on and click next

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if it's already formatted 99% chance Win will screw smth up

crimson bison
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Hei can you get in a call with me and show you my screen through my camera

void jolt
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I thought he did that already?

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Alright, whatever

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Thanks, Hei

long geyser
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ye, gen1

void jolt
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Your PFP is intimidating

pale mist
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Quick q

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So in a RAM oc with dcop is it normal for the sticks to still show 2133 in bios

void jolt
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Yes

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Set the DOCP profile

pale mist
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And speccy thinks it is 1700

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Which is wrong

grizzled bloom
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Depends on what exactly you're looking at

pale mist
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This is 3600 speed gskil

void jolt
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Set the DOCP profile then

pale mist
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Using in a zen2 build so speeds really matter

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I did

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To 3606

grizzled bloom
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There's 2 profiles typically, I assume you're using asus because they call it docp

pale mist
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Yeah

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This board is wonky

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It would bootcycle with dcop on with the mem in a1 b1

grizzled bloom
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Profile 1 is (usually) max rated speed/timings, and profile 2 is a little slower with tighter timings

keen coral
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Will a rx 580 be okay with a r5 5600x? This will be temp until I find a 3070

pale mist
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Yes

keen coral
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👍🏽

pale mist
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Its not amazing but to wait

void jolt
grizzled bloom
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You want RAM in slots 2 and 4, with the slot next to the cpu being slot 1

pale mist
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Uuuuuh how did I forget lol

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I have been using to many Xeon’s with all 6 slots populated

void jolt
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Heh

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Hence your nickname ig

pale mist
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Oh yea

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E5 1620 v2 for life

void jolt
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No

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3990x

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Or whatever the new good Epyc CPU is

elfin warren
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OH

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I see the guy that interrupted gave up and left

void jolt
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Hm?

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Explain

pale mist
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The 580 guy

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580s are real bad deals rn tho

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I would rather a 980

void jolt
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He double channel dropped twice in a row

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And then just left

pale mist
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Anyday, cheaper and more powerful

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Btw the 3990x

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Is many times the cost of the xeon

void jolt
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And many times better

pale mist
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You can get a 1620 v2 anywhere for 50$ easy or less

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On ali

void jolt
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The bar is simply higher for AMD

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Intel usually beats them at their own pricing

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Usually

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But AMD has a much higher ceiling

pale mist
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Amd is winning

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My heart will always be with intel

void jolt
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My heart will never be in a company

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It’ll be with whatever is good at the time

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Except lililabs

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Lililabs best company

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No contest

pale mist
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xD

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Well intel will always have the sketch factor

grizzled bloom
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I'll give my money to a company that I feel deserves it at the time, I'm not really loyal to brands

pale mist
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The aliexpress xeons

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Well true

grizzled bloom
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That said I've always had AMD but that's more due to budget than brand loyalty

pale mist
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But intel has just more stuff in the “ruthless economy” section

elfin warren
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last time AMD was on top was the Athlon X64 cpu's

pale mist
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True

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I have a lot of those

elfin warren
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I had a couple of those lol

pale mist
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HP used those a lot

elfin warren
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I had them sitting in a corner running Arch headless nodes doing FOlding@Home

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and another one in my main pc

pale mist
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Wow

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I had a phenom black for a while

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Overclocked to 3.6 i think

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Was not incredibly happy

elfin warren
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I still have my only cooked CPU somewhere

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Athlon II, paste went dry, no temp monitoring back then

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POOFED it

pale mist
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Yikes

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Dont do that on a duron

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Those will blow

elfin warren
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I didn't know back then

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I do now

pale mist
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I recommend turning volume off

grizzled bloom
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Wow that blew right out of the socket

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And broke into pieces lol

elfin warren
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UH, something fishy there

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There's either a mirror under the cpu socket or a hole in the table

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No way that CPU blew through the table as well

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Awww, that's fake

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-_-

grizzled bloom
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It's such low quality I didn't catch that at first lol

elfin warren
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IKR

void jolt
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According to my friend, he accidentally installed so many [ILLICIT ADULT CONTENT] viruses that his CPU exploded and shot through the top of his PC

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It’s probably bull (he exaggerates a lot of things) but it’s apparently possible according to that video.

elfin warren
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That video is fake lol. They had an explosive under the CPU

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Like a firecracker or something

void jolt
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Makes sense

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Never even heard of Duron tbh

elfin warren
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If you look close you can see drill holes through the socket

void jolt
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Huh

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Would probs be easier to just tape a couple grains of dynamite under the table

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More inconspicuous too

elfin warren
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Mighta been black powder but there's a hole through the table LOL

void jolt
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You saying black powder reminds me of Beirut

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Now THAT was an explosion

elfin warren
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Black powder rifles, not to be confused with smokeless powder or vice versa. bad things happen

void jolt
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I know

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Muskets and things

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I may not look it but I know a fair bit about guns

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Like Linds

elfin warren
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Well

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Black powder for muskets

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Smokeless powder for ammunition

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If you mix the two up, really bad things can happen lol

void jolt
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Guns tend to fatigue fast enough for the whole thing to explode

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When you mix those two up at least

elfin warren
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Smokeless in a muzzle loader rifle will literally blow it up.

void jolt
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Mhmm

elfin warren
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I've seen people use black powder in ammo and make squibs too, that didn't end well either. bad days all around

void jolt
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I have a friend with a muzzle loaded shotgun

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He loads it like a musket

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It’s weird and tends to dislocate his arm if he doesn’t fire it right

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I had to learn how to relocate a shoulder just for that

elfin warren
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JEEZ

void jolt
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Jeez indeed

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Guns portrayed in movies are dumb

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They either have so much recoil that it’s nigh impossible to accurately fire them or so little recoil that the person wielding it must be as powerful as super man

elfin warren
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and they never reload

void jolt
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And then there’s that one part of stranger things where ||the stepdad is firing an M16 or whatever it was at one of those demogorgon dogs jumping in midair and it barely even flinched||

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I mean, it would have to at least push them back from the sheer kinetic force, right?

elfin warren
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No

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That is a myth

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A big one

void jolt
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I mean

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I know it’s not a cannon

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But it has to do something, right?

elfin warren
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No

void jolt
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Don’t get me wrong, I’ve never actually shot at an organic object

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Especially something the shape and weight of a dog

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Only paper cutouts of people

limber dragon
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newton's law yadda yadda

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if the bullet's energy is completely put into the object, there's as much force against the person shooting the gun as the object catching the bullet

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minus air resistance

void jolt
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So I would feel the force of the bullet in my shoulder as well

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But spread out against my shoulder because of the stock

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Or my wrists because pistol recoil

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That’s what you are saying?

elfin warren
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For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

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In order for the person to be lfung backwards, the bullet would have to completely stop

limber dragon
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the gun itself slows and spreads out the energy put into you, but its still the same amount from sending to receiving

void jolt
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And a fraction of it goes into the actual bullet

elfin warren
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I mean, watch Youtube videos of people shooting 20lb lead plates

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now, watch how little they move

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Now, imagine 150lb human

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With 7 times the mass

grizzled bloom
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Plus the bullet doesn't just stop, it slows as it goes through flesh, so energy is gradually released

crimson bison
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vintage and sara

elfin warren
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Simple physics, tiny things don't carry much energy

crimson bison
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im on the new pc

mild jackal
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The impulse exchange is the same, the kinetic energy is not

crimson bison
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only problem is only one drive is popping up

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anyone wanna help 🤣

void jolt
mild jackal
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Tiny things can easy carry a ton of energy, but not as much momentum, relatively

void jolt
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Right click the windows button, go to disk management

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Right click the black part of the drive

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“New simple volume”

crimson bison
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HUH

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ok formatted it

void jolt
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Ok cool

crimson bison
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how do i know which is which

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and anyone here good with mics?

void jolt
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Different letters assigned to the drives

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The one with windows is usually C:

crimson bison
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i need to re-set up voicemeter

crimson bison
void jolt
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Well, you installed windows on the NVME one, right?

crimson bison
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I HOPE I DID

void jolt
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It shows the name of the drive in task manager anyways

crimson bison
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omfg

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phew

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nvme is c

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its beautiful

void jolt
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Cool

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You’re welcome

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Have fun with it

crimson bison
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do you know how to set up mic with voice meter, like how to tune it

elfin warren
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Did Hei get you fixed up after the other person bailed?

void jolt
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Yeah he did

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I forgot exactly how to go through the reinstall process

crimson bison
void jolt
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I thought you had to format the drive

crimson bison
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awesome helped me a lot

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and so did hei and sara

elfin warren
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Good. DInner with my wife is sacred lol

crimson bison
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what rpm should my fans be at

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ll120s

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they at 1500 rn

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and pretty loud

elfin warren
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Should be based on temps

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I keep mine at 950 RPM unless benchmarking

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GPU 65C

crimson bison
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ok

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so i should change em to arnd 950?

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cause they loud rn

elfin warren
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IDK, that depends on your temps

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I have 140mm fans

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They can run slower and still move a lot of air

crimson bison
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i have 120s

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how do i edit rpm in corsair icue

pale mist
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@void jolt the duron was a low end early AMD cpu

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And the reason why they are so scary is because they draw an irregular amount of power from the 5 volt rail and can be overclocked to hell.

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While that video probably is fake, seeing as thats now how physics works, i have no reason to believe you wouldn’t seriously damage something seeing its limitations as a thermometer and “anything goes” kind of clock boost

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Its on the legendarily sketchy socket a

void jolt
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Oh my

brave dagger
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Anyone know if msi mpg b550i gaming edge wifi motherboard now comes with the new bios out of the box?

void jolt
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It does not likely

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Unless you are buying it from Micro Center

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Why?

elfin warren
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Nah, be prepared for a BIOS update

brave dagger
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looking to purchase it (from newegg) chatted with their customer service asking if they got new stock in with bios updated already. they gave me a link to here

elfin warren
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They don't come updated yet

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That we've seen anyway

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Bios Flashback makes it super easy tho

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Just need a USB stick

brave dagger
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microcenter is 2hr one way drive, they have 1 instock that is used/not complete. missing cables and mounting........... granted it is not much but not sure about that

elfin warren
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It's honestly super easy and takes about 5 minutes

brave dagger
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says either used or demo etc

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just kinda not sure, not wanting to brick it

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which i have done years back with asrock mb

elfin warren
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nah, we've helped do two of them today alone

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Piece of cake

brave dagger
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right on

elfin warren
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that's the beauty of FlashBack

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It's not like the old days

brave dagger
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thx for the quick response btw

elfin warren
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YW

naive pendant
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Intel prices for next gen (supposedly)

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void jolt
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Grain of salt

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Rumors and speculations

naive pendant
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Yeah. And 8 cores instead of 10 and increased price? Think I’ll stick with the 10th gen and upgrade on the 12th gen release...

void jolt
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Core count isn’t everything

limber dragon
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rumor too is it's the mobile ice lake imc too leokek

naive pendant
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I want to know if it will actually be better than the 10900 losing those two cores. I have seen i7 CPU’s costing like 1200 dollars what gives?

void jolt
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Which i7s?????

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Scalped ones???

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Idk if those even exist

limber dragon
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maybe some hedt i7

naive pendant
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What makes a cpu a gaming one vs high end desktop? I am planning on the i9-10850k or 10900k whichever I can get

errant knoll
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Hi guys need some advice, what is the best motherboard for this rig

Ryzen 5 3600
Samsung evo plus 500gb
Gtx 1660s
Gskill.ripjaw 2x8 3600mhz cl16

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Tia!

brave dagger
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what is your budget and form factor you're looking at?

void jolt
void jolt
naive pendant
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I can save 50 on the 10850 tho

void jolt
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DS3H*

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Slightly lower clock speeds are worth $50 less, apparently

errant knoll
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Maybe around $100?

void jolt
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Again

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B550 DS3H

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Usually around $90

errant knoll
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Or $120

void jolt
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What do you want me to recommend, a used B550 TUF mATX board?

errant knoll
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B550 ss3h? Ok lemme look at that thanks!

void jolt
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DS3H dammit

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I corrected myself literally less than a second later

errant knoll
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Anyway thanks again

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What about the msi b450 tomahawk? Is that good mobo?

void jolt
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B450 old

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Was good

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Not anymore

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Same with x470

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I recommended you a good board

errant knoll
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Okay buddy thanks!

void jolt
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Hmm actually

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B550 Pro4

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Asrock

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@errant knoll

errant knoll
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I just read in reddit that asrock b550 series sucks

void jolt
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Their BIOS sucks but the board itself is good

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Also

errant knoll
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Ohh

void jolt
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Pro4 is good

errant knoll
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Ok ok lemme checkk that thanks again friend

void jolt
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Slightly better than DS3H

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And it has post codes

errant knoll
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What about auros b550m pro?

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Or elite

void jolt
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How much are those?

errant knoll
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Do you recommend that?

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Lemme chexk

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About $143

void jolt
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At that point

errant knoll
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Its pro

void jolt
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Get a TUF B550

errant knoll
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And the b550m elite is $141

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The tuf b550 is not available in my country sadly.

void jolt
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What country?

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Oh also

errant knoll
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PH haha

void jolt
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Super important

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What CPU

errant knoll
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Ryzen 5 3600

void jolt
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Ok

errant knoll
void jolt
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What board do you currently have, if any?

errant knoll
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Asus prime b450m-a

void jolt
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Ok so you already have a board

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It’s not worth the upgrade, in that case

errant knoll
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Ohhh.

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Ok ok

void jolt
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AM5 is right around the corner

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Wait for that

errant knoll
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Because my b550m aorus elite got broked

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Thats why i buy cheap mobo

void jolt
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Come back when/if that one breaks

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Or when AM5 releases

errant knoll
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Nice ok thanks for the advice!!!

void jolt
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No problem

silk vapor
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Any tips on getting either the 5900x or 5950x?

void jolt
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Newegg shuffle is your best bet

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5900x and 5950x are usually in the highest demand but are sometimes in stock for a few minutes on Amazon or whatever

silk vapor
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Plus I imagine when the stimmy comes here in the US, it is gotta be a battle for those and then some.

void jolt
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We’ll see

glossy dust
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gigabyte Aorus memory?

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2x8gb 3200 with 2 extra dummy ram sticks for rgb

naive pendant
void jolt
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old

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get a B550

rocky beacon
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There is no good reason to get a B450 anymore unless if its a good B450 board super cheap and you are on a tight budget

void jolt
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but for $170?

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hell naw

rocky beacon
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That board is $130

void jolt
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i saw it for $170 earlier today

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I still have one of them

rocky beacon
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It's $130 at Walmart

void jolt
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didnt know walmart even sold them

finite elm
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May or may not regret that purchase.

silent lichen
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hey all, I just got my mobo back after RMA w/ Gigabyte, was going to reseat the Threadripper 1200X, but noticed there's a spec of dust and/or grim on the gold contacts. Pretty sure That wasnt there before, but I notice it now

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how do i clean it off safely? i tried compressed air and it didnt get rid of it. i

void jolt
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tweezers

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just dont take off any pins

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and if you bend one, bend it back

silent lichen
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threadripper only has gold contacts

void jolt
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oh yeah

silent lichen
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its on the underside of the CPU

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socket is clean

rocky beacon
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Then just wipe it off

silent lichen
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ok...

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a bit nervous doing that

rocky beacon
#

It's not going to hurt taking cloth to it...

silent lichen
#

ok.

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dry, right?

rocky beacon
#

Yeah whatever is fine

silent lichen
#

ok, i'll get over my sense of dread and try that, lol

void jolt
#

A lot easier to not break when it has no pins

rocky beacon
#

The only way you could break a LGA CPU is if you drop it on a corner or a side honestly

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Scratches on the pads most likely wont break it

silent lichen
#

awesome it came off. i thought something had gotten caked on

marble knot
silent lichen
#

building it now... wish me luck!! i hope this mobo was actually fixed..

toxic skiff
#

Not sure where to ask this, but, what are some good Wifi Cards?

void jolt
#

Anything on Amazon that’s PCIe and advertises good speeds, probably

toxic skiff
void jolt
#

Looks fine 02shrug

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Bluetooth too

toxic skiff
#

nope

void jolt
#

Why?

toxic skiff
#

in the reviews it requires an open usb2.0 header

void jolt
#

And?

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Do you not have an open 2.0 header?

toxic skiff
#

nope

void jolt
#

On your motherboard?

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Not your I/O, but the mobo itself

toxic skiff
#

maybe

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i'm not sure if its 1 or 2.0

marble knot
#

huh

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you can have usb 1.0?

#

@toxic skiff whats it look like?

void jolt
#

1.0 ports or headers don’t exist on most motherboards anymore

marble knot
#

oh

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even my 2008 mobo doesnt have one lol

toxic skiff
#

oh

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that makes things easy

marble knot
#

lol

toxic skiff
#

I do have an open 2.0 slot

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i'm just Special

void jolt
#

told you

grizzled bloom
#

I haven't seen usb 1 since before windows 98

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Even 98 supported 2 out of the box

olive condor
#

is there anywhere i can get a decent ryzen chip for less than like 150 dollars

void jolt
#

depends on what you consider decent

elfin warren
keen coral
#

She came in today!!!

void jolt
naive pendant
#

could of gone very badly if it was fedex lol

keen coral
#

Sucks I need to wait for a 3070 now tho 😭😭😭

keen vortex
#

my 5600x is almost here but i cant seem to snag a damn graphics card

keen coral
#

It’s making me so mad lmao

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But I can’t do anything about it

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It just sucks bc I don’t have a pc to get onto the websites that sell them fast enough so I have to use a phone which takes much longer lol

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I would just like at least an answer as to when the companies will make enough to meet the demand

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But that can’t be known

void jolt
#

I got my 3070 from shuffle

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It’s doable

keen coral
#

Hm

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Maybe I’ll look into that then I thought that would be a bad way for it

unkempt tinsel
#

@keen coral I may pick up a 5600x at Microcenter tomorrow. Southern Pennsylvania. They supposedly have them in stock for $299.99 limit 1 per customer. I have to call before the drive. Also have 5800x for $449 limit 1 per customer

keen coral
#

Oh man I wish I was anywhere near a micro center the nearest one is over 500 miles

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And to fly or drive there and back would make it one extremely expensive GPU may as well buy a scalped one by that point lol

keen coral
naive egret
#

Is the Ryzen 5 5600X compatible with MSI B450 Tomahawk Max??

grizzled bloom
#

Yes, with BIOS update

errant knoll
#

Hi guys im helping my friend build a pc, what is the best mobo for ryzen 5 3600? Heres the mobo that I picked for his price range,
Msi b450 tomahawk max
Msi b450m mortar max
Aorus b450 elite

rocky beacon
#

I would suggest getting a budget B550 board instead of B450 at this point in time

errant knoll
#

Ohh why??

grizzled bloom
#

Unless you plan on upgrading to a 5000 CPU later b450 is ok, just not as many features

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If you want to get 5000 eventually, by then the features may be more useful

rocky beacon
#

I personally don't recommend a B450 board anymore unless you can get a mid-high end one for very cheap

grizzled bloom
#

That's fair I'd say

errant knoll
errant knoll
keen vortex
#

i'm deciding between pulling the trigger on the msi b550 tomahawk and the gigabyte aorus b550 elite v2, which should i go with?

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from what i can tell my deciding factor right now is the level of esd protection bc they seem to be on opposite ends of the spectrum but idk how big of a problem that is

rocky beacon
#

B550M PRO-VDH WIFI is pretty good for the price

errant knoll
rocky beacon
#

If you dont mind getting a refurb board, this is pretty good for the price

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errant knoll
#

Ok thanks u so much!

naive egret
rocky beacon
#

Select MOBO and its at the bottom

naive egret
#

Oh

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So it’s like a prebuilt

rocky beacon
#

No?

naive egret
#

Wait nvm

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Got it

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Tyvm

rocky beacon
#

NZXT sells parts that are most likely from returned NZXT BLD PCs

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Awhile back there were $189 1660 Supers

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Sold out quickly obviously

naive egret
#

So like the mobo are most likely used?

rocky beacon
#

No they are

naive egret
#

Oh

rocky beacon
#

Just cleaned and refurbished

#

But $110 for a B550 board is worth it to me

naive egret
#

Ahh

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Kk

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Thnx

void jolt
#

lmao I talked to TwoStep yesterday about all that

#

I think Cody was even there for a part of it

rocky beacon
#

I have immense amounts of memory loss 24/7 so idk

void jolt
#

you were there at the tail end so it wouldnt surprise me

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I told him that he should just get a B550 DS3H or something like that instead of a B450

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he kept saying 'well, why not this board instead of this board'

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and all that stuff until it finally elevated to the point where the only board I could really recommend was an X570 Pro from Asus TUF

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cause he kept raising the price

gentle acorn
#

Any idea on the average cost of DDR5 memory when it becomes available if it does?

void jolt
#

probably around the same as higher end DDR4

gentle acorn
#

Alright

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Was looking into it in case they come out with DDR5 for next Gen Ryzen and I decide on doing that instead of next Gen Intel or current Gen AMD...

void jolt
#

first generation DDR5 likely wont be the best

#

it never is

gentle acorn
#

Alright

grizzled bloom
#

They probably will do that for AM5 yeah, I'd avoid it for a year or 2

gentle acorn
#

Alright

rocky beacon
#

I love wasting money on new technologies though

void jolt
#

same!

elfin warren
grizzled bloom
#

Then you're the ideal consumerists and companies love you because you're so easy to market to

elfin warren
#

Just because I love it doesn't mean I do it tho

gentle acorn
#

So don’t go AM5?

grizzled bloom
#

Maybe don't go first gen AM5 and DDR5

gentle acorn
#

Alright

#

Will there likely be DDR4 options?

grizzled bloom
#

Unknown at this time, we know very little about the new socket, only that it will likely exist sometime within a year or so

gentle acorn
#

Alright

#

I still have no idea when I’ll have money to upgrade so I got a bit

#

All I know is within the year

grizzled bloom
#

Best to wait and see what the new Intel offering is too, depending on timing of things

elfin warren
#

best thing to do

#

When you get your money together, come here and ask for advice

gentle acorn
#

Yeah I was planning on doing so anyway

elfin warren
#

Things change a LOT

gentle acorn
#

Alright

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Yeah I’ve noticed

elfin warren
#

I think the fastest changing space is the drive space

#

IE, NVME drives

gentle acorn
#

I’m waiting for prices to drop for those lmao

grizzled bloom
#

Yep I've seen 8TB nvme drives becoming more common

gentle acorn
#

Yeah

void jolt
grizzled bloom
#

There's also 15TB 2.5 SSDs now

gentle acorn
#

Jeez

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I was thinking of getting a good quality 4TB HDD for when I get my laptop which I’m getting a laptop for travel and school also I have no room for a desktop anyways

#

At my dads

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At my moms I have room and have one which I’m upgrading

#

Just the CPU going to keep the GPU for a while longer

void jolt
#

I lowkey want a 15tb 2.5" sata drive for games

naive pendant
#

thats up to date

void jolt
#

for laptop?

gentle acorn
#

Yeah I was getting WD

#

Yeah

naive pendant
gentle acorn
#

External

void jolt
#

laptop hard drives are becoming rarer and rarer nowadays but yeah, an external one would work

naive pendant
#

Their 2'5" ones are good too

void jolt
#

USB I assume?

gentle acorn
#

USB type C

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That one specifically

#

And 5TB actually

void jolt
#

Type C is faster than Type A 3.0, right?

gentle acorn
#

Pretty sure

elfin warren
#

generally, yes

grizzled bloom
#

It's usually 3.2 at least

gentle acorn
#

I know for sure the laptop I’m getting has a Type-C C as well

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Though I just realized I’m going to be using it for VR on occasion probably

void jolt
#

what laptop?

gentle acorn
#

MSI GL65 Leapord

void jolt
#

specs?

gentle acorn
#

Leopard*

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i5-10750H, RTX 2060, 512 GB NVMe, and a 1TB HDD

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They have another laptop with a 3060 but it’s the same price and less storage

#

Just doesn’t have the 1TB HDD

void jolt
#

im guessing by the USB remark that you are going to be getting a Quest 2?

gentle acorn
#

I already have one

void jolt
#

fun

gentle acorn
#

Been using it with my current PC

naive pendant
#

What is the highest temperature the i9 7900x designed to run at before throttling

elfin warren
#

95C

pale mist
#

Would keep under that tho

#

Not all silicon is alike and keeping it at over 80 is probably shorting the lifespan

naive pendant
#

best b550 mobo for like $130 rn?

elfin warren
naive pendant
#

cool cool

placid scaffold
#

plus 2 soon with better vrm

void jolt
naive pendant
nova ridge
#

who makes the best ram?

void jolt
#

Arguably Crucial

grizzled bloom
#

"Best" in what way? Very arbitrary statement

void jolt
#

Overall crucial, usually

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At least right now

#

For the average, everyday consumer

#

Maybe G.Skill

grizzled bloom
#

Yeah I'd call g skill a close second overall, depending on model

void jolt
#

NEO generally comes in higher amounts at higher speeds than ballistix does

#

But that’s for the people getting threadrippers and such

nova ridge
#

Yeah I left it open to see what people favored

hollow thorn
#

Everything depends on the model

#

Different models have different dies

grizzled bloom
#

Yep anything with Samsung B-Die is going to be good, Hynix second I'd say but feel free to dispute me

hollow thorn
#

Micron rev E (and J and the other one) that's in most Crucial ballistix sticks is great, that's why Crucial ram is pretty good in general

nova ridge
#

what is the real world difference between 3200 3600 4000 speeds

hollow thorn
#

Depends on the CPU

grizzled bloom
#

In Intel? A few %

hollow thorn
#

Ryzen or Intel

nova ridge
#

intel

grizzled bloom
#

AMD? LOTS of %

hollow thorn
#

Intel wise, I'd say something like 6% from 3200mhz to 4000mhz, assuming everything else is optimal.

nova ridge
#

small gains

naive pendant
#

Great I want to save up for an arctic freezer 480, i hope i could get some gains.

hollow thorn
#

Yea, it's nowhere near the gains you'll see with AMD

naive pendant
#

Also I wonder if DRAM coolers buff ram gains

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant 420mm?

naive pendant
#

280mm oops

grizzled bloom
#

AMD can be 15% going from 3200 to 3600

hollow thorn
#

Yea didn't think they made a 480mm lel

naive pendant
#

lel

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant and dram cooler depends a ton on the die

naive pendant
hollow thorn
#

And the freq/timing/voltage

naive pendant
#

Since 3600CL18 for me was regret lol

#

i should of bought ballistix

limber dragon
grizzled bloom
#

Yeah CL16 max at 3600

naive pendant
#

Thats what I would assume.

hollow thorn
#

@limber dragon the dram coolers are usually just a fan strapped on tho :p

naive pendant
#

Im just happy my clocks are getting close to 3600C16

nova ridge
naive pendant
#

Soon its going to be messing with timings and internal screaming

limber dragon
#

yeah, but the heatsinks are heat insulators

hollow thorn
#

Fair

naive pendant
#

Ah okay.

#

I doubt Hynix Mdie would benefit much then

grizzled bloom
naive pendant
#

oof

#

Ive messed with voltages

#

now TRCD scares me

grizzled bloom
#

A cooler is good at 1.45 and higher

naive pendant
#

This all could of been solved by buying Micro E die

grizzled bloom
#

Below that most heat spreaders can handle it

naive pendant
#

FML, and Ballistix gonna be expensive

nova ridge
#

ram speed for gaming, whats the minimum?

hollow thorn
#

There is no absolute minimum, just should start at 3200c16

naive pendant
#

^

#

Iirc racer recommended

#

3600c16

#

because 3200c16 price or smthng

grizzled bloom
#

Assuming you mean decent gaming, yeah 3200C16, C14 if you can

nova ridge
#

high end gaming

naive pendant
#

God damn CL14 ram expensive

hollow thorn
#

@limber dragon btw do you have any faith in micron rev e, no heatsink, no fan strapped on, keeping itself operational? Just thinking after seeing buildzoid take a hairdryer to it

limber dragon
naive pendant
#

BRUH

#

Ballistix can get to 4200

#

Im sad now

limber dragon
grizzled bloom
#

High end for AMD 5000 you want 4000, and no higher, to avoid fclk problems, unless you go SUPER high end 4600+

naive pendant
#

Wait also how the hell does XMP work?

hollow thorn
#

Oo fun

#

@limber dragon wait, does rev e take voltage well?

limber dragon
#

ya

naive pendant
#

Since manual OC requires coupling FCLK

grizzled bloom
naive pendant
#

and the ram speed.

naive pendant
hollow thorn
#

I'm either dumb, lost my memories, too tired, or all of the above

naive pendant
#

Ive always wondered about that.

limber dragon
#

cl and rp scale with voltage, rcd is mostly based off your bin

grizzled bloom
#

You can still change things even with XMP loaded

nova ridge
#

Thank you for answers and participation. People always willing to chat here. I appreciate it

naive pendant
#

Because honestly wondering if couples automatically

grizzled bloom
#

As long as the frequency is the same, it works

naive pendant
#

4000 MHZ=2000FCLK in xmp.

grizzled bloom
#

Correct

#

Ryzen 5000 has good odds to hit 2000 fclk

naive pendant
#

Ah, so its preprogrammed literally

limber dragon
#

2000 fclk will not be stable without messing with things and testing

naive pendant
#

Thats what I thought

#

Ive been able to hit 3733 FCLK on my 3700x

#

but Not much farther, even messing with voltages.

#

Might need to mess with timings

grizzled bloom
#

Well yes you'll want to bump SoC and stuff for 2000 but it's stable for me

naive pendant
#

But big doubts

limber dragon
naive pendant
#

Im sad, dram calc would be easy lol

hollow thorn
#

@limber dragon Is that still the case on post agesa 1.2.0 on b550/x570?

naive pendant
#

LPX is urghhhhh

hollow thorn
#

Fclk not going to 2000 for Zen 3

nova ridge
#

lol

naive pendant
#

Whats going on with the zen3 stuff?

limber dragon
naive pendant
#

USB issues or whatever.

hollow thorn
#

Interesting

grizzled bloom
#

Yeah no, MAYBE 1800 fclk on 3000 if you're lucky

hollow thorn
#

I thought 1.2.0 gave a lot more people the ability to do 2000

naive pendant
#

Wait on 3000?

#

Ryzen 3000

limber dragon
#

like I can "do" 2100, but its not at all stable

naive pendant
#

Ive read that people have hit rarely 3800 with Zen2

hollow thorn
#

Ah I see

naive pendant
#

but stablility

#

yep

grizzled bloom
#

Yes, like a 3700X, you're lucky if you get 1800 fclk

naive pendant
#

Been working on voltages.

grizzled bloom
#

1800 fclk = 3600 RAM

naive pendant
#

with the alt board.

#

I hit 3733 lol so barely a dif

limber dragon
#

can bench with it, but gets ~10wps

4200.png
naive pendant
#

1866.5

hollow thorn
#

Wps as in..?

limber dragon
#

whea per sec

hollow thorn
#

Gotcha

#

Didn't know that was a measurement lol

naive pendant
#

Thank god it isn't words per second lol

#

TRCD scares me

#

and second off, I need to find it in my tuf bios later lol

#

Because i never found it lol

#

prob blind.

hollow thorn
#

I mean, it's one of the primary timings

#

Should be easy to find

naive pendant
#

Uhh iirc my voltages im pushing through it 1.4 on my die

#

DRAM voltage

grizzled bloom
#

That's fine

hollow thorn
#

Depends on die tho

grizzled bloom
#

Don't even need a cooler at 1.4

naive pendant
#

and then need to double check SOC lul

#

Here

grizzled bloom
#

SoC 1.1 to 1.15 for memory overclocking on Ryzen

naive pendant
#

ID recommended these, for audio crackle issues

#

it was 1.1 yep

#

Im just sorta pushing my voltages lightly on b450

#

prob doesn't have as good VRMS as the tuf.

#

x570

hollow thorn
#

you pay for the full vrm you use the full vrm

naive pendant
#

Also I prob should get a new cooler for starting to OC on the 3700x

#

Cause 212 like everyone said is not that great.

#

And been saving up for an AIO

#

Is there any way to OC ryzen unlike ryzen master?

void jolt
naive pendant
#

iirc intel was actually going into bio

#

bios

hollow thorn
#

Bios

naive pendant
#

What are some lists of settings again?

hollow thorn
naive pendant
#

VDDG-DRAM, etc is ram

#

I just remember going into "AMD Overclocking"

#

but it only had enabling PBO

nova ridge
#

ddr5 is out now?

hollow thorn
#

Usually in dram settings

naive pendant
#

didn't see much out

naive pendant
#

But price

hollow thorn
#

Actually vddg would just be in voltage section

#

Depending on the bios

nova ridge
#

IS it supported by all mobo?

grizzled bloom
#

DDR5 is in production but nothing uses it yet and isn't being sold (exceptions may exist)

naive pendant
#

What vrm does the strix have?

#

x570 strix or whatever.

hollow thorn
#

On my stripped down msi bios, it's below the cpu voltage settings

nova ridge
naive pendant
#

IIRC someone said it was slightly better price compared to tuf vrm

void jolt
hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant what about the VRMs on the board

naive pendant
#

uses a different power phase delivery

grizzled bloom
nova ridge
#

Yeah I follow

naive pendant
#

he told me he got the Strix 570

#

x570, etc.

#

Someone in one of the channels recommended it also because of the VRMS

#

Oh oops b550

limber dragon
#

there's a lot of different strix x570

grizzled bloom
#

So he pitched it like VRM was a selling point? lol

hollow thorn
#

Prob x570-f

naive pendant
#

Yeah lmao

#

but i think it was b550-f?

hollow thorn
#

I read the sheet wrong and thought it had 4 true phases only xD

naive pendant
#

Yep this one

grizzled bloom
#

VRM is not even close to a selling point as long as it's not garbage

limber dragon
naive pendant
#

Ah

#

Thats what it was.

hollow thorn
#

It's 4 phases, no doubler, triple layout whatever it's called thing

naive pendant
#

I wonder if the x570 strix f is better than lol

#

Never mind then, yep pricey

#

lol

#

ROG brand name prob

grizzled bloom
#

Ah yeah for that price difference worth it

limber dragon
#

yes, find the scalped price from china

naive pendant
#

Because it might be nice for a new board

#

my tuf was sent in for repairs

hollow thorn
#

Fitz, is there even a nice term for when they do 3 mosfets per phase? No doubler

naive pendant
#

M.2 slots was running in Half speed lol

hollow thorn
#

Can't think of the term if there is one

naive pendant
#

Also is there a document I can read about VRMS?

#

I was watching buildzoids VRM explanation lol

#

VRM"s are pretty interesting

#

i'd be down to read about them.

hollow thorn
#

Buildzoid vrm explanation good

limber dragon
#

oh damn, open box -e for $200

naive pendant
#

I think it was

#

"VRM explanation i give up"

#

Something like that lol

hollow thorn
#

Yes good version

naive pendant
#

Bruh what is the msrp of the x570 f lol

#

Its all scalped everywhere.

#

Lol

hollow thorn
#

Prob 300 if I had to guess, but anyways x570-e open box for 200 sounds great

naive pendant
#

wait also

#

I swear my tuf does higher ram speeds than the x570 strix f lol

limber dragon
hollow thorn
#

Ah

naive pendant
#

Yep my TUF uses a 12+2

hollow thorn
#

Should still be good

naive pendant
#

No idea what that totally means

#

lol

#

Ah yes

#

"Military grade protection" KEK

hollow thorn
#

I always mix up naming, but iirc vcc+soc

naive pendant
#

Not really military protection

#

can the TUF x570 take a 50 cal?

void jolt
#

Yes, because, as you see, it’s very TUF

#

I’ll leave now

naive pendant
void jolt
naive pendant
#

Oh wait ASUS

#

"ASUS TUF BOOK"

#

Totally not a ripoff of the dell toughbook series lol

#

ah yes

#

"Delivery estimated march 3rd"

#

if another storm comes

#

hell nah

#

more like march 30th lol

finite elm
#

Managed to order a 5800x last night on newegg. hopefully won't regret it.

#

Now to try to catch me a 3080 or should I wait for a possible 3080 ti?

rocky beacon
#

3080 ti probably won't be a thing

#

Wait until RTX 4000

#

If you can get a 3080 at MSRP or a decent price then get it

finite elm
#

Ah

#

RTX 4000 would be a good 2 years from now wouldn't it?

rocky beacon
#

Yes

finite elm
#

If I was gonna wait 2 years i wouldn't have bought a 5800x lmao

errant knoll
#

Can someone tell me what is good mobo for ryzen 5 3600 here in this two
Asus tuf b450m pro gaming
Msi b450 tomahawk max tia!

rocky beacon
#

Neither

#

Get a budget B550

pale mist
#

Yeah, what cody said. B550s are just better in every way. I like the asus prime b550 plus @errant knoll , is good and does not break the bank

#

The only reason zen3 is on b450 is from peer pressure and its not that great

errant knoll
#

Ohh.. ok ok so any b550 motherboards?

pale mist
#

The asus prime

errant knoll
#

Is the vrm on asus prime good? @pale mist

rocky beacon
#

We already recommended B550 motherboards two other times

pale mist
#

I think it is yes

#

Not the exact model but this goes in depth ph its OC abilities against more expensive mobos