#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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stiff kraken
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most antiviruses have an option to detect fullscreen applications and not do things when fullscreen applications are open

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as far as i know anyways

uncut fjord
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it could also be that i forgot to shot off windows defender when i first upgraded.... meaning the software might have clashed

void jolt
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Why would you shut off defender?

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Great antivirus

stiff kraken
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having two antiviruses running at the same time can cause problems

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i'd rather get rid of AVG than defender though

uncut fjord
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because avg has always worked very well for me, and i have had issues with antivirus clashing

stiff kraken
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either way

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choice of antivirus is not really the point

uncut fjord
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you think them clashing may have been a factor?

stiff kraken
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if you're dropping frames when there is a lot happening

void jolt
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Possibly

uncut fjord
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cause it hasn't done it since

stiff kraken
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it could be your 6 thread cpu getting overwhelmed

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depending on how much money you have right now

uncut fjord
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blah... i was hoping you weren't going to say that.... i dread the thought of replacing CPU and mobo.... i got a steal, on mine, and i'm not sure i could get a similar deal next time around

void jolt
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Warzone likes better CPUs

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But wouldn’t really affect LoL

stiff kraken
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an i7-9700 could be a decent stopgap if you find a good deal on one without replacing mobo

uncut fjord
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it's not going to be right now.... i'm just making a gameplan ahead of time

stiff kraken
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9700 and 9700K have been popping up for $180-200 lately

uncut fjord
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yeah i see a lot of used ones, but i'm kinda sketch about buying cpu used tho

stiff kraken
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you could also look at 8700K if you find a good deal

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for a serious upgrade you'd have to get a new mobo

uncut fjord
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do you think it would be a worthy enough upgrade if i DO find a good deal? or would it be kind of a minor bandaid type of thing

stiff kraken
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but you could definitely do a stopgap upgrade to 8th or 9th gen i7

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it just depends on how much money you have to spend

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those cpus should be hanging on fine until 2023

uncut fjord
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right now, none... like i said i'm moving right now... i'm thinking closer to october.... i start my promotion process mid-late next month if all goes well

stiff kraken
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well yes i'm talking about how much you want to upgrade with when you do upgrade

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not necessarily what you have at this minute

uncut fjord
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so if all goes well with that, i should be making a siginificant amount more money... i'm trying to get a good idea of what my best options are

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but i guess come ramp season, it kinda depends on who releases what XD

stiff kraken
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what cooler do you have on your cpu? the included one?

uncut fjord
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crap, yes.... i had actually forgottten that i couldn't find one at that time.... UGGGHHHHH i need to do that :/

stiff kraken
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you will want at least a basic aftermarket cooler to make good use of any i7

uncut fjord
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i'm well aware that the stock fans are dookie.... i had actually planned on getting one, following the purchase of my i5... which i actually got on sale cause best buy had one returned by the customer in front of me in the geek squad... so i got a used price on one that was literally JUST sold

stiff kraken
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$30 and would do a passable job holding down a non-overclocked i7

uncut fjord
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that's almost identical to the one in my old case

uncut fjord
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but then again, i guess 99% of aftermarket heat sinks looks about the same

stiff kraken
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there's only so much you can do to a fan strapped to a block of metal

uncut fjord
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ROFL fair

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but the second one you linked, the heat sink looks very small?

stiff kraken
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it's got more heatpipes

uncut fjord
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also i've never been able to picture how those ones with the mount on the SIDE attatch....

stiff kraken
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it's a midrange offering, you can overclock most cpus on it

uncut fjord
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omg, does it sit sideways? not actually ON the cpu?

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how does THAT work?!

stiff kraken
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i have no idea what you're talking about

uncut fjord
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every one i've had, (heat sinks) have mounted flat, with the fan pointed down toward the cpu

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tthese both look like the mounting platform is on the side

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is that how they actually are now?

stiff kraken
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like this?

uncut fjord
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(again, i have a generic stock cpu fan atm

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yeah, that's how mine currently is, and every one i've ever had was

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this looks like it's to the side

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adjacent to the cpu

stiff kraken
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it's just a different shape

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it is still directly contacting the cpu

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they are called downdraft cpu coolers

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as opposed to the ones i showed earlier which are called tower cpu coolers

uncut fjord
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fair, okay... so not more or less "relevant", simply a different style?

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neat

stiff kraken
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yeah it's just a different type of cooler

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usually used in stock coolers by both intel and AMD

uncut fjord
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i've been building computers for years... and i always assumed the ones you called "tower cpu coolers" were for something else, and i disregarded them LOL

stiff kraken
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one of the major benefits of downdraft coolers are that it blows some air onto the board's power delivery

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a lot of cheaper boards do not have any cooling for the power delivery

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so the downdraft stock coolers help cool it

uncut fjord
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fair... it's crazy... my old gaming pc had like sub 100mm fans, as the primary... my current setup has a couple 240mm fans and there's a much bigger one on the access panel

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(i may be misremembering the sizes, but i know they're massive compared to what i upgraded from)

stiff kraken
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my current pc has 8 120mm case fans

uncut fjord
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i only have 3 240mm fans (again, 2XX... idr the exact number) and one that's almost the entire circumference of the access panel LOL

stiff kraken
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probably 200mm

uncut fjord
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i also moved one of my small fans from my old pc to act as an exhaust fan

stiff kraken
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i am not aware of the existence of any 240mm fans

uncut fjord
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idr, it's whatever came with the titan V2

stiff kraken
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200mm is the most common size of the larger fans

uncut fjord
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thor v2*

stiff kraken
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80mm, 92mm, 120mm, 140mm, 200mm are the most common

uncut fjord
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ah, i think it's 3 140s, and 1 200....

stiff kraken
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..interesting

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230mm fans

uncut fjord
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is it?

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i genuinely don't remember....

stiff kraken
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3 230mm fans preinstalled

uncut fjord
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so i wasn't too far off at all

stiff kraken
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seems like a headache for upgrading

uncut fjord
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possibly... but it's going to be a long time before a BIG upgrade ... and if i do, i'm more than likely going to build a second pc from scratch and simply use this one as a streaming desktop

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toss a capture card in this thing, and use it exclusively for that

stiff kraken
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it's more that if you ever change case the fans can't follow

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because no other case is going to have mounting holes for 230mm fans

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not that big of a deal though

uncut fjord
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fair, but they're SURPRISINGLY quiet

stiff kraken
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creates a bit more e-waste

uncut fjord
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like i often times forget i even have it on

stiff kraken
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larger fans do not have to spin as quickly to move lots of air

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therefore less noise

uncut fjord
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fair, but that's good considering i work from home LOL

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then agian my headset is really good for noise cancelling... though i hate it cause it has that "no tangle" crap cables, that instead of tangling, just kink like a 50 year old water hose -_-..... i wish my job would allow me to have a wireless headset

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so, to recap, for my own records/understanding... i7 would be a noticable, but not optimal upgrade, if i have the money, wait and upgrade mobo and cpu to the i9.... scrap upgrading the gpu as of right now because mine will suffice, and anything that would be an upgrade would not be cheap enough to be worth it

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accurate?

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and more immediately, upgrade the fan*

stiff kraken
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well

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your gpu is enough for league but could benefit from an upgrade in warzone

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although it might be a good idea to wait for the mining boom to end

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an i7-8700 or i7-9700 and their K variants are a decent stopgap solution to slot into your current board

uncut fjord
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would they be an actually NOTICABLE upgrade tho?

stiff kraken
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if you wanted to a larger upgrade you could look at an i7-11700 + B560 board, i7-11700K + Z590 board, ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 7 5800x + B550 board

uncut fjord
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like enough to warrent the 200$ish

stiff kraken
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your average fps likely would not see a noticeable difference

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but better lows and less frequent frame drops

uncut fjord
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noted, thank you

elder ingot
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whats a suggestion for a motherboard for 5800x & RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC combo

stiff kraken
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that's a lot of cpu for not a whole lot of gpu

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did you already buy the 5800x?

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i would recommend getting a 5600x or 10600K instead if not

elder ingot
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yea still time to cancel

pale mist
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NO

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if already ordered stick w it

uncut fjord
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i like how you say "not a lot of gpu" after we just went over my crappy 1060 😢 ya'll suck LOL

pale mist
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3060 is better than what most people have

stiff kraken
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i don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to have a cpu that costs 50% more than your gpu

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unless you're mostly doing cpu-bound productivity tasks

pale mist
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I mean true

elder ingot
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Okay so do I keep it since I ordered it or do I get the 5600x?

stiff kraken
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i have a cpu that's one third the price of yours paired with a 3080 and not seeing any bottleneck at 1440p

pale mist
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Well its so hard to find them

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Don’t cancel

stiff kraken
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ryzen 5 3600x does the job

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i was originally going to upgrade to a 5800x alongside the 3080 but found it to be unnecessary after getting the 3080 first and testing it

pale mist
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Maybe just sell it for only like 50$ profit you will make someone’s day and you get money

stiff kraken
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nah scalping the 5800x isn't really a thing

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the 5800x has the least demand out of the lineup

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they are often in stock for hours on end

pale mist
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I know ors scalping but i mean only 50$ is good

elder ingot
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yea I got lucky today with the shuffle and grabbed the 3060 so I thought the 5800x would be good

stiff kraken
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the 5600x, 5900x, and 5950x are the high demand ones

pale mist
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Scored a 5600x

stiff kraken
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a 5600x or 10600K will do more than fine with the 3060

pale mist
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But my board is giving me major trouble

stiff kraken
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even a 3600 or 10400 should do the trick

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the 3060 is really not much better than a 2060 super

pale mist
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Well i am sticking to my r9 fury then

stiff kraken
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anyways, to answer your original question, i'm partial to the B550 AORUS ELITE as a premium board at a midrange price

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it will easily handle even a 5950X but only costs $150 or so

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if you are getting a 5600X, you can get away with a lower end board if you want to save money

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MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI is a great bang for the buck board that'll handle a 5600X as long as you don't mind the micro atx size

pale mist
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@stiff kraken any experience w problems updating bios on mpg b550 boards from msi?

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Have been having major problems

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And i am doing the bios thing right

elder ingot
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okay dually noted. Ill keep my orders for now but I will see if I can grab a 5600x

stiff kraken
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the 10600K has been having great sales lately i wouldn't count intel out if i were you

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i saw them go as low as $215

stiff kraken
pale mist
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Button

stiff kraken
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did you rename the file to the specific thing they ask for

pale mist
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Yes

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The usb is FAT

stiff kraken
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should be fat32

pale mist
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Well yes it is

stiff kraken
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is it in the designated usb port

pale mist
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Yep

stiff kraken
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is the file in the root directory of the usb and unzipped

pale mist
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It will work, then boot the fans and rgb then be stuck

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Yes

stiff kraken
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what cpu do you have in there

pale mist
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The light should flash but it will remain solid and not do anything

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Tried no CPU and my 5600x

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The board does not need cpu

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To flash

stiff kraken
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yes i was just making sure you weren't trying to run it with a 1000/2000 series

pale mist
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Nah

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I never use old ryzen unless its a TR

stiff kraken
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is the build fully assembled otherwise? everything in there?

pale mist
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Yep

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And i took it all apart and tried that too

stiff kraken
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have you tried cmos clear?

pale mist
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Hmm i guess i have not

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But no changes to bios

stiff kraken
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i've had cmos clear fix things without changing any bios settings

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worth a shot with how easy it is to do

pale mist
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True

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Just pop out and in

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Ok will try

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This is a headache

void jolt
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What happened to the annoying guy?

pale mist
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I have made aliexpress x58 mobos work but this ritzy one refuses to wah

stiff kraken
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i have never bothered with battery removal

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just shorting jumpers

pale mist
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Eeh

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I have a scrap heap of mobos i harvest cmos es from

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Aliexpress mobos dont come w cmos

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Some import thing

stiff kraken
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yeah international shipping of lithium ion batteries

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batteries even need to be declared when shipping domestically over ground

glossy dust
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man, b450M boards look horrible

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compared to b460m boards

pliant cypress
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different generations, and different sockets

elfin warren
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B460 should be a bygone thing not that B560 has arrived

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No more memory slowdown for i3/i5 intel

azure pulsar
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does anyone have a good guide to resetting cmos? i have a b550 aorus pro if that needs to be specified

void jolt
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Ez

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Turn off power

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Unplug PSU cable

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Take out GPU (if needed)

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Take out CMOS battery

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Wait 10 minutes

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Put battery back in

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Done

azure pulsar
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i dont even have my pc built yet but i might have bricked my mobo bc i messed up a q flash

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and

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ok

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ty

void jolt
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A cmos reset won’t help that

azure pulsar
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damn

glossy dust
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tuf b450m pro is 3400g compatible right?

void jolt
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It’s on socket AM4, so yes

glossy dust
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no like bios wise

void jolt
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Yeah

azure pulsar
void jolt
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Should be out-of-box compatible

glossy dust
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pc part picker just said "it might not be compatible" so yea

void jolt
azure pulsar
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kk

void jolt
glossy dust
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oh

void jolt
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They aren’t anymore

glossy dust
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welp

opal olive
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i installed my hyper x fury rgb ram 2 days ago and i just noticed that the ram sticks rgb doesnt match colors especially on white {one of them would show up as pure white and the other would show up as white with a bit of blue} is there any way to fix this

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HyperX Fury RGB 16 gb [2x8] [3200 mhz cl16]

grizzled bloom
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You could try rewriting the spd rgb data but that's risky and not covered in warranty

opal olive
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i c

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i mean it's nothing really that important it's just annoying if uk what i mean

grizzled bloom
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Yeah I definitely get it, and if it bugs you enough then you could put in a support/rma request and hope the next set is closer in color

fiery kernel
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whoever said 16gb is enough for my pc is an absolute liar

mild jackal
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I don't think rgb stuff is stored in spd is it?

lavish aspen
fiery kernel
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animating

lavish aspen
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Oh FOR SURE u need like 32gb

fiery kernel
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yeah man lmao

grizzled bloom
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16 is enough for the majority of people but content creators and 4k streamers will want more

fiery kernel
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sometimes it doesnt occur to me that most people just use a pc for playing games

lavish aspen
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Yeah for gaming 16 is a sweet spot but for tasks like editing, rendering, and animating it will take a toll on just 16gb u need more try to get new ram and sell the sticks u have rn

fiery kernel
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dw i got an actual pc with 32

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but ive been on a 16gb laptop for like 3 years now

opal olive
fiery kernel
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having photoshop and adobe animate open at once already gives the whole pc a major hit

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with a core turbo of 3.5ghz that also cant handle very intensive vector animations

lavish aspen
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Yeah and also it’s a laptop airflow isn’t the best and the cpu doesn’t have a cooler

fiery kernel
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exactly why i got the lian li lancool II mesh for my pc

lavish aspen
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Nice

grizzled bloom
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Good choice

fiery kernel
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the case is alright but the fans that come with it are a little loud

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might swap them for black noctuas or something

grizzled bloom
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Stock fans I typically toss right in the spare parts box

fiery kernel
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this was my first pc so i didnt know what i was getting myself into lmao

lavish aspen
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Those*

fiery kernel
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same

grizzled bloom
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Oh I've been building up a spare part box for about... 17 years? I've still got phone cables in it.

fiery kernel
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going from a 1050ti to a 3070 was also a huge weight off my shoulders

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i couldnt play minecraft at 30 fps

lavish aspen
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Damn

lavish aspen
grizzled bloom
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And now you can do minecraft with raytracing lol

grizzled bloom
opal olive
fiery kernel
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dude yeah even shaders with a render distance of 16 chunks

lavish aspen
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BRUHHHH

fiery kernel
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at 2k

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runs at like 50-70 fps

opal olive
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i dont really like the java shaders tbh

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they look weird

grizzled bloom
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That fat piece of garbage connector it is, I still have one

fiery kernel
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i used bsl shaders

lavish aspen
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I need to go to bed I got class tmrw and I’m in the east coast

fiery kernel
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they look great to me

grizzled bloom
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Sheesh it's 2:30 for you then, get some sleep

fiery kernel
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better than me going to bed at 7am

opal olive
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i-

grizzled bloom
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What is sleep? I have 2 kids that don't like to sleep.

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I was chasing them back to their room at 2 AM last night

opal olive
grizzled bloom
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Yes normal but still... annoying. I just drink lots of rum to fill the time. Makes me feel like a pirate while I play games.

opal olive
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😂

grizzled bloom
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To clarify for any mod that's watching no, that wasn't a game piracy admission. I really just drink rum while I play ESO.

lavish aspen
opal olive
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i-

grizzled bloom
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Well alright then we'll just be forcing ourselves to stay awake together

lavish aspen
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And kids are the best gift life can give you enjoy them

opal olive
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idk if it's rlly worth it to get a 3060

fiery kernel
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yea get a 3080 if u can

lavish aspen
grizzled bloom
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Yeah they're good kids usually but bedtime is a pain

opal olive
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3070 or 3080

lavish aspen
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lol

fiery kernel
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yea

lavish aspen
opal olive
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idk man the price changes are a pain in the ass

lavish aspen
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Ye should I check BB and all those sites?

grizzled bloom
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Watch a stock drop discord, I'd link one but mods don't like that

lavish aspen
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I’m in one rn funny you mention it

grizzled bloom
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Snail monitor is best (but you have to pay or refer to get in)

opal olive
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isnt the 3060 equivalent to a 2070 or 2070 super?

grizzled bloom
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Roughly

lavish aspen
opal olive
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how much does it cost

lavish aspen
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WhT?

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The 3060

opal olive
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ye

lavish aspen
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It varies in the company

grizzled bloom
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Well msrp is like $329 so I'd expect close to $400 lol

lavish aspen
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ROG is 520$ Msi ventus 3 is 500

opal olive
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that aint worth the money tbh lol

lavish aspen
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Ye

grizzled bloom
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Just get a 3060 ti FE, much better price/performance

opal olive
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ye

grizzled bloom
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Assuming of course you can find one

opal olive
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lmao

grizzled bloom
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The miners LOVE that card

opal olive
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i didnt even know that the 3060 released lol

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i just read something abt it today

grizzled bloom
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Yep just today it did

opal olive
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oh

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well i sound dumb now

grizzled bloom
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Nvidia is also supposed to be bringing back the 16 and 20 series production for some stupid reason

opal olive
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ye ik that

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wait a sec

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is it the 20 series as a whole

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or was it just the 2060

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and well the 1050 ti

grizzled bloom
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Those are the confirmed ones but there could be more on the low end so they can use their bad chips up

opal olive
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i c

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but why would they bring back the 1050 ti

grizzled bloom
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If they existed, it would be equivalent to a 2040 or 3030, but nvidia hasn't really made low end stuff for a while

opal olive
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i c

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i just went to my kitchen and came back and this guy is still typing

grizzled bloom
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I know I went and typed in 3 other discord channels lol

opal olive
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😂

grizzled bloom
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I really want to know what exactly they're typing now

grizzled bloom
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If it's a support request I LOVE people that put as much detail as possible into their description

opal olive
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lmao what if it was just a small sent tho

mint ingot
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fried my laptop's motherboard
i forgot to unplug the battery and i unpluged a cable that connects the left side of the motherboard to the other side
and the i let go of the cable and it landed right between the wifi card and the cpu
then i saw a big spark but nothing caught on fire
i then just reassembled the laptop and started it
i got some warning in the start up but o dont remember what the warnings were about cuz i was in total adrenaline
then the laptop started normally
but after a while it just did a shut down by it self and that was the last moment my laptop had turned on

opal olive
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AHH

mint ingot
opal olive
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drama series

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The Laptop Died coming soon in theaters

grizzled bloom
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Called it, detailed support request lol. I'm impatient.

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So what exactly did you want to know? If it can be fixed? If data can be recovered? What parts can be salvaged?

mint ingot
opal olive
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😂

mint ingot
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cuz i want the money boooooi

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the money that i will use to buy a new laptop

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sad noises

opal olive
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wat exactly did u want from us 😂

mint ingot
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some tips

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maybe you faced that situation some time

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or something

grizzled bloom
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Board is likely fried like you said. You can recover your data from the hard drive.

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Any "fix" is going to be temporary

mint ingot
opal olive
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nah

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u gonna have to change the board

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i had a laptop that had a fried mobo

grizzled bloom
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The data? Yes. The laptop? not likely. A new motherboard often costs as much as a new laptop, since modern ones solder the CPU to the board

opal olive
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ye

mint ingot
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with the cpu and the gpu it will cost like a new laptop

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yup

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so

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i have to cry in the corner

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ok np

opal olive
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just buy a new laptop lol

mint ingot
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thanks anyways guys :D

grizzled bloom
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Not much do be done about it, F for respects

opal olive
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WOW I SOUNDED SO DUMB

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"if ur homeless just buy a house"

mint ingot
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i mean
i have a pc but i just want my laptop for studying and work

opal olive
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i c i c

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idk if u got the money buy a good busniss laptop with an ssd inside

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it'll be fast

grizzled bloom
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The funny thing is if you take care of it a laptop can last you forever. I still have one that I got for christmas like 10 years ago, and it was an old refurb then. I use it with Linux since the GPU doesn't like Windows now.

opal olive
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and probably all u need

opal olive
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the mobo died on it

mint ingot
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R.I.P for the old laptop then ig

grizzled bloom
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A refurb laptop isn't a bad option, and shouldn't cost you too much

opal olive
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ye

opal olive
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just dont get it with a touch screen

mint ingot
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thanks so much guys

mint ingot
opal olive
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mine a had a touch screen

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it only lasted 3 years

mint ingot
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0-0

grizzled bloom
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It's basically a giant phone screen at that point and those are designed to fail

opal olive
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lmao ye

mint ingot
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lol

opal olive
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i dont see the point of buying a laptop with a touchscreen anyway like im pretty sure people will get an ipad pro instead

grizzled bloom
#

Literally, it's planned obsolescence. The companies make money when your old phone dies and you buy a new one. Make the old one outlast the warranty just enough to maximize profit.

opal olive
#

ye

mint ingot
#

yup
totally useless

opal olive
#

ye anyways ima head back to class

#

bye

grizzled bloom
#

Later

mint ingot
#

gb

opal olive
#

yo yo i got a question

#

so i have this 16 gb ram stick

#

it's i think at a speed of 2400

#

mhz

#

i want to use it

#

i already have 2x8 gb 3200 mhz ones

#

if i put 3 ram sticks

#

will it cause problems

manic hull
#

The speed will lower to the slowest stick, on all of them

opal olive
#

ur profile

#

akhk

#

it creeps me out

#

lol

#

and well what if i overclock the 2400mhz to 3000mhz

#

and the others

#

to 3000mhz

#

wont that work

manic hull
#

I do believe it will the set them all to 3000, but wait for someone a little more knowledgeable in memory to help you out more @elfin warren , 3 sticks can be weird.

opal olive
#

ye oki oki

magic rampart
#

So kernel security check failures, irql not less than equal, memory management.. all bsods... ram problems?

#

Now critical structure corruption

crimson bison
#

Does anyone know if you can run a 5900x and a Gtx 1080 together, what will be the issues with the pair, and if there is a possibility of killing my processor or graphics card

hoary cedar
#

I'm looking to upgrade to an i5-10400F soon, but I heard 11th gen is launching soon. Would it be a good idea to wait and maybe nab one of those instead?

#

Would be pairing it with a B560 mobo probably

nova hornet
#

Only if you really want pcie Gen 4 I think?

hoary cedar
#

I have a 3060Ti. No idea if it would benefit from PCIe 4

nova hornet
#

Could use it for drives potentially

hoary cedar
#

eh

nova hornet
#

I’m not sure what the actual differences are between 10th and 11th Gen

hoary cedar
#

I'm okay with storage for now. Running a SATA SSD and I haven't needed faster.

#

What's terrible in my PC atm is actual gaming lol, esp in VR I can barely run larger games at 40fps

#

And I'm def CPU or RAM speed bound, which is why I'm upgrading both CPU and motherboard

hoary cedar
hollow thorn
#

They're out for the US

hoary cedar
#

ah, peck

#

I'm stuck here in France :/

hollow thorn
#

B560m pro4 price doesn't look too bad actually

hoary cedar
#

I have a full tower case tho, would it be a bad idea to get a smaller mobo?

hollow thorn
#

Nah, compatibility is just fine

#

just looks smaller

hoary cedar
#

huh

#

Why do the bigger ones exist then?

#

It's 129€ with shipping:

#

I'd be using my 3060Ti on it, and upgrading my current i7-7700 to either an i5-10400F or 11400F (which one?)

#

And also I'd be selling my current MSI B250 PC MATE and CPU, so hopefully my net spending won't be too much.

hoary cedar
#

Does this look OK?

void jolt
#

oooh, B560

#

that looks fine

glossy dust
#

hard to come across a b560

void jolt
#

idk much about the best B560 boards

#

but its usually better than Z490, I believe

glossy dust
#

is it becoz 11th gen ain't out yet?

void jolt
#

possibly

#

mostly because the boards themselves are very new

glossy dust
#

in newegg there's just like only 1 b560 board i think

elfin warren
#

In stock, yes

#

They're popular because they don't limit ram speeds for i3/i5

glossy dust
#

2-3 but the other is like itx and one is oos lol

#

oooooo

#

idk bout the pricing when it comes here tho i might just stay at b460m and take risk for a meh priced gpu

elfin warren
#

I mean, $109 for a good board

#

B560

void jolt
#

asrock BIOS Cringe tho

hollow thorn
#

@hoary cedar bigger ones exist because ATX can fit more pcie x4 and x1 slots, sometimes more x16 slots

hoary cedar
#

Ah noice. That makes sense.

hollow thorn
#

imo, mATX is ATX without the fluff

#

the mounting holes are all the same, most of the other things stay the same

#

just miss some pcie x1 and x4 slots usually

hoary cedar
#

I've ordered them and also my new RAM, 3200MHz 2x16gb

#

The RAM was cheaper to buy from US Amazon and pay the ridiculous $20 import fees + shipping than buying in Europe lol

hardy moon
#

Would of loved a b560 itx board to be in stock lol... I payed like 160 for some z490 ones

#

160 each vs 94 dollars oof

elfin warren
#

They just came out last week I think?

hardy moon
#

Yeah but they are out of stock

elfin warren
#

Yep

#

Finally no ram restrictions on the lower end processors

#

Gonna be popular

glossy dust
#

Thoughts about msi b460m pro?

elfin warren
#

Wait for a B560 to come back in stock

#

SO you aren't hampered by ram speeds

glossy dust
#

Ok then

elfin warren
#

i3/i5 on B460 is 2666 mhz

#

i7/i9 is 2933

#

B560 is as fast as you can go

glossy dust
#

Wut

elfin warren
#

Yeah like, 4000+ mhz

glossy dust
#

So can go to 3200

#

Oh

#

Ic

elfin warren
#

Indeed

glossy dust
#

That's nice

elfin warren
#

It is

#

Intel MB finally in a good place

glossy dust
#

🥰

elfin warren
#

Plus B460 won't run 11th gen intel

#

-_-

#

Thanks Intel

severe thicket
#

10400 is $40 cheaper than the 3600. Is it a good option ?

elfin warren
#

Absolutely

glossy dust
#

Yes

elfin warren
#

With a B560 motherboard it'll beat the 3600

#

and 3200 mhz ram

glossy dust
#

Gg

severe thicket
#

Thanks

glossy dust
#

When 11th gen is getting released, but ppl are still gonna opt for the prev gen and just buy the newer gen mobo

#

Sounds fun

elfin warren
#

Eh, Sometime next month. Need real benchmarks to see just how good or bad it is

glossy dust
#

Lol

elfin warren
#

I trust exactly zero leaks

glossy dust
#

U think 10th gen price will drop once 11th gen releases or nah?

elfin warren
#

Probs not

#

Not in this market

glossy dust
#

Aww

#

Lol

woeful merlin
#

Managed to finally get my hands on a r7 5800x, anyone know of any motherboards that dont require a bios flash to get it working? none of my local shops have any and newegg support had no idea

elfin warren
#

Get a board with Bios Flashback

#

B550

#

Most of the B550 boards have it

#

Can flash without a CPU, just takes a couple minutes

woeful merlin
#

How does flashback work? usb or something?

elfin warren
#

Yes, usb stick and power

woeful merlin
#

nvm, google is my friend

elfin warren
#

Push button, wait for lights

#

Good to go!!

woeful merlin
#

ah ok

elfin warren
#

Super easy

eager shore
#

sometimes

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Every board is different

#

With the light patters and procedures

woeful merlin
#

Yeah

bleak cedar
#

My RAM usage when doing nothing with my PC has been higher than I'd like it lately, any ideas for how to maybe make it better? (and I know a "just download more RAM" joke is inevitable so just get it out of your system if you must)

elfin warren
#

Define higher than you'd like

#

Also, you have RAM for a reason. What's the point in having it if you're not going to use it?

bleak cedar
#

I've got 16 gigs and it sits at 30% even with the highest user being discord at 200MBs ish

#

The point is that when I do try to do something everything gets laggy and slow because my RAM usage goes to 90%+

#

And it only started happening lately

#

Without me doing anything special

elfin warren
#

What do you fire up that uses that much ram?

bleak cedar
#

Lately it's been DCS World (combat flight sim in case you don't know it) but I bet it'll be the same with MSFS2020

#

I know those are extremely demanding

elfin warren
#

Oh yeah, those are absolute ram eaters

bleak cedar
#

But it wasn't like that 2 or even one week ago

elfin warren
#

Any flight sim is

bleak cedar
#

Yeah

#

But still it has gotten worse lately

#

And I have no idea why

elfin warren
#

do you leave Discord and other things running while gaming?

bleak cedar
#

I try to close whatever I don't need like Chrome which obviously is a RAM eater of itself but yeah I keep discord as I need it to chat with whoever I play with

elfin warren
#

I would grab something like MSI afterburner and enable the On Screen Display

bleak cedar
#

And other essentials like Steam if I'm playing a Steam game

elfin warren
#

Keep tabs on CPU and GPU useage and also RAM useage

#

It might not be ram, might be CPU or GPU getting maxed out

#

Possibly even VRAM

#

If your card has 6GB VRAM say, and the on screen display is maxing it out, might be your issue and you need to turn down some settings for example

bleak cedar
#

My CPU doesn't go above 20%-30%, my GPU is definitely not that great but to me it just seems like RAM because it's the worst during loading screens and when all the initial textures load in

#

And also my RAM usage goes all the way to 90%+

elfin warren
#

Ah, we on to something

#

Check GPU core use and VRAM use

#

I would harbor a guess it's not system ram but rather GPU VRAM that's causing stutters and poor performance.

bleak cedar
#

I've got a 970 with its famous 3.5+0.5 gigs

elfin warren
#

1080p?

bleak cedar
#

Yeah

elfin warren
#

With a lot of settings turned on?

bleak cedar
#

Medium settings pretty much

#

My FPS isn't too bad

#

And what's the weirdest to me is that it only gotten worse in the past week

#

Before that I can't recall anything like that

#

At least not as bad

elfin warren
#

Recommend using MSI Afterburner On Screen Display for GPU, CPU use and Ram/VRAM use as well as temperatures

#

I have a 970 in my wifes PC and replaced the thermal paste the other day due to age

#

I also checked the Steam page for DCS

#

Recommended LOW SETTINGS: GTX1070

bleak cedar
#

I don't think that's right

elfin warren
#

SO check the OSD for useage and try lowering a few settings here and there

#

"MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS (LOW graphics preset settings): OS 64-bit Windows 8/10; DirectX11; CPU: Core i5+ at 3+ GHz or AMD FX / Ryzen; RAM: 16 GB (32 GB for heavy missions); Free hard disk space: 120 GB on Solid State Drive (SSD); Discrete video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 / AMD Radeon RX VEGA 56 with 8GB VRAM or better; Joystick; requires internet activation."

bleak cedar
#

Oh damn

#

I thought it was like a GTX 600 series

elfin warren
#

They may have updated the game and thus updated the requirements

devout mothBOT
#
BlackMamba#0766 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

bleak cedar
#

Ah

#

Whoops

#

I'm looking forward to upgrade soon but the GPU market is as bad as it can get soooo

elfin warren
#

Yes, GPU market is bad

#

But try turning some things down a little more and checking system stats in an overlay

bleak cedar
elfin warren
#

I hope so but at the same time I don't due to GPU market lol

#

Lowering all the settings to LOW should reveal an answer if performance increases

elfin warren
#

MSFS2020 is even more resource hungry

bleak cedar
elfin warren
#

It's a BEAUTIFUL game but resource hungry

bleak cedar
#

Yeah, but I've honestly only been on DCS lately

elfin warren
bleak cedar
#

Alrighty

#

Thanks! I hope I can figure this out

elfin warren
#

Like, if CPU is 30% and GPU is 100%, most likely GPU

bleak cedar
#

Well yeah GPU is definitely at 100%

elfin warren
#

Yeah

bleak cedar
#

But also RAM

elfin warren
#

RAM is meant to be used

bleak cedar
#

Yeah I guess

elfin warren
#

I really don't think this is a RAM issue

bleak cedar
#

Alright

elfin warren
#

With low CPU use and GPU at 100%, it's just the GPU struggling

bleak cedar
#

Yeah, well, I guess I'll have to go into our sad sad GPU market soon and see what I can get

elfin warren
#

Mmmm

#

Just be patient

#

Don't overpay

bleak cedar
#

Yeah obviously I don't want to but where I live they're actually in stock but official retailers sell them for 2x-3x the MSRP

#

And it could easily keep going throughout the entire year

elfin warren
#

Microcenter is the best bet for a store

#

Otherwise the rest are mostly online only

naive pendant
#

should i get ryzen 5 5600x or i7-10700k i7 has better performance and is cheaper but z490 doesnt have pcie4 so should i get amd or intel if i want to keep using the mobo and cpu for around 5 years but upgrade the gpu

void jolt
#

10700k with a B560

naive pendant
#

what white b560 do you reccomend

#

for i7 i was looking at NZXT N7 Z490

hollow thorn
#

smh

#

I like the vision g for z490

royal hull
#

Hey guys! Quick question...
Sooo I ordered the Seagate FireCuda 520 M.2 for my new build.
However, the MB I wanted was out of stock everywhere when I ordered, so I substituted for a different one..however, in my negligence I forgot to check the PICe gen on the new board. It's only a Gen3.
Is it worth it to even have the FireCuda? I cant seem to find much of anything on how it runs in a Gen3 port..Im just trying to see if its worth returning (its not even out of its shipping box yet) and getting a Gen3 M.2 or just using the FireCuda anyways.

rocky beacon
#

Not even a good SSD for the price anyways

elfin warren
#

I mean, you paid for Gen 4

#

I'd return the drive and get something a little cheaper

#

Because honestly, right now, Gen 4 drives are overpriced and I'll guarantee you won't see a difference in every day use between gen 3 and 4

rocky beacon
#

Only difference is if you are editing large 4K+ footage

void jolt
#

gen 4 and firecuda are the worst combo for price

elfin warren
#

Just get a GEn 3 drive, it'll be fine

royal hull
#

Well, s***. haha.

#

Alright, thanks for the input!

elfin warren
#

S'all good!

#

Save you some money too

#

and 1/3rd the price

royal hull
#

Any recommendations for a---

#

Okay then 😂

elfin warren
#

Was yours a 1 TB?

royal hull
#

Yeah

elfin warren
#

or 500gb?

#

Oh, hang on

#

There ya go

royal hull
#

And it's $60 cheaper, awesome! Thanks

elfin warren
#

YW

ruby laurel
lone oar
#

seagate?

void jolt
crimson bison
#

I have a problem with booting my brand new computer

#

Everything lights up, works, spins, even the gpu, but nothing gets displayed. Maybe I’m not waiting long enough or something is truly wrong can someone please let me know. I am running a 5900x, on an aorus master mobo, and temporary 1080 while I’m waiting for 3080

elfin warren
#

Is this a brand new build?

#

Did you flash the BIOS on the board for the 5900x?

crimson bison
#

I didn’t know that I had To bios on my mobo

#

Is there a way you can help me out, because I was rlly confused doing it

elfin warren
#

What motherboard exactly?

crimson bison
#

Aorus master b550

elfin warren
crimson bison
#

Just download it onto a flash drive and that’s it?

elfin warren
#

And unzip it

crimson bison
#

And that’s it?

#

Cause I have a flash option

elfin warren
#

I'm reading the manual, stand by

crimson bison
#

Ai bet, please lemme know as soon as you can this took me long to build

elfin warren
#

Yeah, the Flash Back

#

Ometimes you need to rename the file, sometimes not

crimson bison
#

Do I need to partition the usb to fat32?

crimson bison
elfin warren
#

manual is useless, I'm finding you a video

crimson bison
#

Ai

crimson bison
#

I saw video on how to do it but it says to partition usb to fat32 and stuff like that

#

And it’s rlly confusing there

elfin warren
#

Eh, pretty much every USB is fat32 lol

#

Just copy file to USB, unzip it there and go

magic cedar
#

unless you’re using a 128 gb one

crimson bison
#

Watch mine not be fat32 LMFAO

#

ok

#

Bare with me please

limber dragon
#

even if you have a 128gb usb, you can partition out a sub 32GB for fat32

magic cedar
#

yea

crimson bison
#

How big is the bios update?

limber dragon
#

small

crimson bison
#

Gb or mb

magic cedar
#

idk exactly how big

limber dragon
#

mb

crimson bison
#

Ai

limber dragon
#

generally smaller than 50mb, but depends on board

devout mothBOT
#
русский стандарт#3080 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

crimson bison
#

Oh cmon

limber dragon
#

amd used 32mb bios chips

crimson bison
#

I can find a usb

#

Cant*

elfin warren
#

poop

crimson bison
#

Gimme a few minutes lmfao

#

Cause the other two I had I basically screwed them up completely

limber dragon
#

time to make a fat32 partition in a hard drive WeirdChamp

crimson bison
#

🤣

#

I actually have a 1tb external hdd

void jolt
#

I have a 4tb external

crimson bison
#

Found a flash

void jolt
#

lili has 200tb external

#

wrong letter

crimson bison
#

I don’t need external cause I have 1tb nvme and 1tb sata

#

HOLY

#

200 WHY

void jolt
#

and 1pb offsite

#

thats petabyte

#

quadrillion bytes

crimson bison
#

Ok

#

I’m booting up my laptop

#

Laptop booted

crimson bison
#

Ummmm

#

My discord froze on laptop and I can’t close it lmfao

#

Ok another thing

#

Do I need to take out my cpu to do bios flash update

magic cedar
#

yes

crimson bison
#

YOUR KIDDING

#

NO WAY

#

OMFG

magic cedar
#

unplug everything except cpu and motherboard power

elfin warren
#

No

void jolt
#

wait

#

sseti

#

no

magic cedar
#

dont you?

elfin warren
#

It doesn't need to be out

#

Nah

#

I learned that the other day

magic cedar
#

wait what

elfin warren
#

It can be in

crimson bison
#

BRO I LEGIT JUST FINISHED

elfin warren
#

just doesn't HAVE to be

magic cedar
#

oh

crimson bison
#

the pc not the bios

magic cedar
#

...

void jolt
elfin warren
#

It's fine, leave it alone lol

magic cedar
#

ohh

#

makes sense

elfin warren
#

No, it doesn't support it

#

B550/Ryzen 5000

crimson bison
#

It’s a b550 with 5900x

elfin warren
#

Yeah, needs update

#

Won't post

crimson bison
#

Mhm

void jolt
#

wait

#

confusion

magic cedar
#

wait what

#

now im confused

crimson bison
#

No post

#

Everything works

elfin warren
#

B550 with a Ryzen 59000x

#

Just lights and fans come on

magic cedar
#

so you can leave the cpu in all the time when flashing bios?

elfin warren
#

Needs a BIOS update for CPU

crimson bison
#

Ram works gpu works, aio works

magic cedar
#

ohh

elfin warren
#

Just lights up

magic cedar
#

k

elfin warren
#

Doesn't mean it's working lol

magic cedar
#

makes life easier

elfin warren
#

Indeed!

crimson bison
#

And I won’t shock the cpu?

elfin warren
#

I thought it had to be out also until I looked into it more

magic cedar
#

well it’s probably better to have it out

crimson bison
#

Racer?

elfin warren
#

Doesn't really matter TBH. If you push the BIOS FLASH button it doesn't boot anything but the chip

#

*BIOS chip

crimson bison
#

Do I hold and push or just push

elfin warren
#

Watch video

#

Just push

#

It's gotta be the WHITE usb port also

crimson bison
#

ok on laptop rn

#

i only got black red

#

red 3.0 i think

elfin warren
#

hmmmm

#

lemme check then

crimson bison
#

vid i watched, not the one you said, just said plug usb right next to hdmi and flash button

#

so i was like ok

#

but faulty usb -_-

elfin warren
#

Ah

crimson bison
#

so i talked to my friend and he said just put everything together

#

no need for update

#

and i was like fine

magic cedar
#

isnt there a usb port that says “bios” on it

crimson bison
#

and BOOM

#

here i am

elfin warren
#

Ok, reading a bit more

#

you need to rename the .bin file to gigabyte.bin

#

after you unzip it

crimson bison
#

ok

elfin warren
#

SO a file like this B550AEV2.11i

crimson bison
#

and only drag that letter named file onto the usb drive

#

yea that one

elfin warren
#

rename to gigabyte.bin

crimson bison
#

and then copy it to usb

elfin warren
#

yes

crimson bison
#

then plug usb into mobo

#

and flash?

elfin warren
#

There SHOULD be a USB port labeled QFLASH+

crimson bison
#

ok

elfin warren
#

or BIOS

#

It'll be like, BIOS USB 3.0

crimson bison
#

so confirming no need for cpu to be taken out

elfin warren
#

Nope

crimson bison
#

and it wont zap my part, or any parts

elfin warren
#

make sure PC is off

crimson bison
#

right?

elfin warren
#

Insert USB into the right port

crimson bison
#

psu on or off?

elfin warren
#

Push QFLASH button and wait

#

As long as PC is off, PSU doesn't matter

crimson bison
#

wait can you confirm it wont zap my parts right?

elfin warren
#

I wouldn't tell you to do it if it would zap your parts

crimson bison
#

LMFAO

#

ok im trusting you on this

magic cedar
#

vintage is very trustworthy

crimson bison
#

drive is locked

#

abt to be loaded

void jolt
#

this is the second bios flashback person today

elfin warren
#

It is

#

First guy was MSI with 5900x and 3090 lol

crimson bison
#

pogs

#

its fllashing

elfin warren
#

Gonna take a few minutes

crimson bison
#

now another problem

#

my laptop aint charging

#

i move my charger just a tad bit and it just stops charging

#

also pc turned on its own

#

@elfin warren

elfin warren
#

IDK about charger, probably needs a new internal port

crimson bison
#

HOW DO I GET THAT FIXED

#

also pc

#

it turned on

#

on its own

elfin warren
#

and did it boot?

crimson bison
#

idk

#

lemme plug monitor lmfao

#

nope

#

but mother board showing double 0 on it

#

do i turn pc off or no?

elfin warren
#

Power switch

crimson bison
#

bios light still flashing

elfin warren
#

OH

#

DON'T TOUCH IT

crimson bison
#

OK

elfin warren
#

Wait till BIOS light goes out

crimson bison
#

look at this baby

#

i just need 3080 T^T

elfin warren
#

Once the BIOS QFLASH light goes out completely, might restart might not

crimson bison
#

and if doesnt what do i do

#

pcb of gpu looking mad ugly

elfin warren
#

WDYM, bios light or QFLASH LIGHT

#

It literally takes 3-5 minutes

crimson bison
#

LETS GO POST

void jolt
#

nice

elfin warren
#

Don't forget your thumb drive 😉

#

Gonna need that for Windows

crimson bison
#

I wont

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cause im using drives from old computer

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i only need to download drivers to 5900x

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and i need help with that lmfao

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Current screen

elfin warren
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Uh

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There are no CPU drivers

crimson bison
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Yea

elfin warren
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And

crimson bison
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What do I do abt that

elfin warren
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Good luck getting old Windows install to boot

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ON new hardware

devout mothBOT
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русский стандарт#3080 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

crimson bison
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Oh cmon

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What do i do

void jolt
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bad word

elfin warren
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Mmmm

crimson bison
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I wrote s word

elfin warren
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There's a good chance it won't boot, small chance it will

crimson bison
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And what do I do if it won’t

elfin warren
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Best thing to do is a clean windows install

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Do you still have the key?

crimson bison
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😳

elfin warren
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Activation key?

crimson bison
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Idk tbh

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How do I check that

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Cause this drive for Windows download from my hdd

elfin warren
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Well, there's a couple of things you should have done

void jolt
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did you connect your email to windows?

elfin warren
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Like, register Windows 10 to an email account

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So you just log in and boom, activated

crimson bison
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It says missing operating system 😂

elfin warren
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Uh huh

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So you need a Windows 10 key if you can't find the old one

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Or put the old machine back together and do a few steps

void jolt
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reddit hardware swap has some, i believe

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for cheap

crimson bison
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Oh wait

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Can I get key from my laptop

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And wait do I need to basically wipe my nvme of all info

void jolt
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connect your email and yeah

elfin warren
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Yeah if you want that one to deactivate

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Hmmm

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I wonder if a repair install will work?

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That can get complicated tho

crimson bison
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Ok so what do I do with my current situation

void jolt
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I would just reinstall

crimson bison
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Can some get in call and lead me through this pls

elfin warren
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That's the best option but it means wiping everything

crimson bison
void jolt
crimson bison
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Do I need to boot my old computer

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WAIT

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Can I get windows on a usb and then just download it like that????

void jolt
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yes

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thats how that works

elfin warren
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Yes but you'll need to activate it

crimson bison
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Ai so lemme do that

elfin warren
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It'll be dinner time for me soon so I'll be out for a while

crimson bison
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And do I have to wipe my data???

crimson bison
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Any other option?

elfin warren
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Not really

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Completely new hardware needs a new install

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New MB, CPU, etc

crimson bison
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Bruh that means I have to reinstall every single game

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STRESS TEST CPU MWHAHAAHA 😂

crimson bison
elfin warren
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Yes

marble knot
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vintage i put new mobos/cpus/gpus in my system all the time and i ahve no issues

elfin warren
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Get those from the Gigabyte site

crimson bison
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I rlly need someone to get in call with me and show me how to do this

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I am rlly confused 😂

elfin warren
crimson bison
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And amd drivers?

elfin warren
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His can't even find a boot drive

marble knot
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oof

elfin warren
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It's probably becuase old os was MBR

crimson bison
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Should I try and unplug my sata???

elfin warren
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New hardware needs GPT for UEFI

crimson bison
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And keep nvme which has my boot

marble knot
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maybe fro mswaping amd to intel u need fres install

elfin warren
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And there was absolutely no prep done before hand like driver uninstalls

marble knot
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oh

crimson bison
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Oh no but that means I lose all my files

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Ummm

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Likes pictures and stuff

marble knot
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just redo windows

elfin warren
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Yeah, new hardware kinda needs to be thought through

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Like, backups and stuff

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:/

marble knot
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tell it to keep ur data

crimson bison
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:/

crimson bison
marble knot
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do u have any extra hdds/ssds?

crimson bison
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Yea, external hdd

elfin warren
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All his important stuff is on an NVME

crimson bison
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And a sata

marble knot
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so clone ur drive

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then redo 1

crimson bison
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But that’s sata also has things on it

marble knot
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and then tranfer personal data back

crimson bison
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HUH

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How tf do I do that

elfin warren
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That's not possible without rebuilding the old computer lol

crimson bison
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I’m a true idiot

elfin warren
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or an external drive

crimson bison
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Old computer just needs my nvme