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nova ridge Feb 14, 2021, 4:46 AM

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ty

pale mist Feb 14, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Anyone else freaking love asus sabertooth

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I am in MOBO love

fiery kernel Feb 14, 2021, 1:21 PM

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the 5900 was running at a super solid 4.95 ghz without any changes in bios and that's pretty amazing considering my laptop cpu (i7-7700hq) can maybe hit 3.4 under heavy load

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huge upgrade

full flame Feb 14, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Not to mention big ipc gains

humble wasp Feb 14, 2021, 3:44 PM

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what is budget z490 MB ?

modest sorrel Feb 14, 2021, 5:10 PM

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good mobo for I5-1400f

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and budget i guess

elfin warren Feb 14, 2021, 5:17 PM

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B460M, gigabyte

paper coral Feb 14, 2021, 6:15 PM

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@naive pendant let me know when you get there

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And tell me what the setting is

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Please hold

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@elfin warren do you have an idea?

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Why it wont turboboost even tho its enabled

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Havent a clue

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Its weird

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It should be

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So either something wrong with board

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Or cpu

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I really wouldn't worry

ruby laurel Feb 14, 2021, 6:30 PM

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probs because no 4k decoders

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its doing it all thru software

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if you had any sort of gpu with cuda youd be fine

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iirc

lethal glacier Feb 14, 2021, 9:01 PM

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So I just ran cinebench R23 and my tempature didn’t go above 75.6c (168f). Is that good? It averaged 75.6c

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It’s a Ryzen 7 3700x^

manic hull Feb 14, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Its good enough

rancid nest Feb 15, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Is 32gb of memory enough for a 3090?

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ram is irrelevant to the GPU

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16GB is fine for gaming

rancid nest Feb 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ok

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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For video editing and doing multiple things at a time like streaming, etc, maybe 32 GB

rancid nest Feb 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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I was checking if my pc was gonna bottleneck with a 3090 and it said get more than 16gb ram

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Don't need 32Gb to run a 3090 though

rancid nest Feb 15, 2021, 12:07 AM

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K

lost pine Feb 15, 2021, 1:59 AM

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is a cas latency of 18-20 bad or is that like ok?

limber dragon Feb 15, 2021, 2:00 AM

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depends on the frequency

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2400mhz, yeah its bad, but 4800 its good

lost pine Feb 15, 2021, 2:00 AM

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ohh

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ok

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:00 AM

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assuming you're saying 18-20-20-40 or something

lost pine Feb 15, 2021, 2:00 AM

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its 2x8 ddr4 3600

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its corsair ram

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btw

limber dragon Feb 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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not great, but it could be worse haha

lost pine Feb 15, 2021, 2:01 AM

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alright thank you

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any ram recommendations

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Question about the R5 5600x: it's listed as having 4.6ghz in max boost speed, and that's only through single-core performance, right?

limber dragon Feb 15, 2021, 2:09 AM

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lost pine any ram recommendations

budget and for what cpu?

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guessing cheap as possible

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:12 AM

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runic vigil Question about the R5 5600x: it's listed as having 4.6ghz in max boost speed, an...

Boosting behavior is all about the silicon lottery, can't have any guarantees on anything.

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One 5600x might boost to 5ghz on all cores, and another only 4.4ghz on all cores

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:15 AM

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That's not what I'm asking. When its specs list its Max Boost Speed, is that determined by single-core performance, or multi-core?

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:31 AM

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So I had to visit AMD's website to learn the answer for myself.

Max boost for AMD processors is the maximum frequency achievable by a single core on the processor running a bursty single-threaded workload.

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Highlighted in the Max Boost Speed spec of the chip.

magic cedar Feb 15, 2021, 2:33 AM

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the ghz doesnt mean performance

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well it does

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but its just how many calculations per second each core can do

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Whichever terminology is correct.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Well, I don't feel that is helpful in the way that your specific CPU may be able to achieve above or only below that spec.

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Generally, the frequency makes no difference for me in comparing CPUs, I'd just look at testing.

magic cedar Feb 15, 2021, 2:35 AM

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^

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ghz isn’t everything

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:35 AM

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hollow thorn Generally, the frequency makes no difference for me in comparing CPUs, I'd just ...

That's exactly what I did prior to asking my question.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I'm sorry? Which part do you mean?

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:36 AM

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If I give a moment to explain...

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I was running HWMonitor while I was doing benchmarking from Cinebench. When it was testing for Single Core, I check the values of the chip. It lists 4.64hz one core at a time; the rest sits on the base clock spec while the max speed alternates each core.

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When I tried benching for multi-core speed, it averages to 4.25ghz altogether.

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Reading the results gave me the impression that the marketed Max Boost Speed (i.e. 4.6) only applies to single-core work, and I wanted to ask here for verification.

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If it's true, then I have just one question to ask: if I overclock the CPU, would overclocking below the boost speed means it can never reach that speed, right?

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If I set the CPU ratio to 45 and it's locked to 4.5ghz, would I lose the extra 100mhz of boost power?

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Especially with games that operate on single cores?

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Yes, in the way that it (4.5ghz all core) won't ever reach 4.6ghz, but also no, in the way that generally, in games, you won't reach the max boost speed on single cores anyways.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:52 AM

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I could.

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I'm running a game which lists the CPU speed at 4.6 without me tinkering the settings.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:54 AM

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While under load, and with games usually hitting more than one cores, it usually goes below the max boosting freq you'll see with running single thread tests

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And also, "overclocking" using PBO will still boost around, higher than stock boosting behavior, that is another option.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:55 AM

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That's kinda what the Cinebench and HWMonitor suggested to me: all cores working in tandem go below the max boost speed.

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What do you mean by PBO?

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Precision Boost Overdrive, it's a setting in bios you can enable, it's basically an auto-oc.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:57 AM

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It's been enabled by default.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Full explanation:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-explaining-precision-boost-overdrive-benchmarks-auto-oc

Explaining AMD Ryzen Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO), AutoOC, & Ben...

With the launch of the Ryzen 3000 series processors, we’ve noticed a distinct confusion among readers and viewers when it comes to the phrases “Precision Boost 2,” “XFR,” “Precision Boost Overdrive,” which is different from Precision Boost, and “AutoOC.” There is also a lot of confusion about what’s considered stock, what PBO even does or if it ...

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 2:59 AM

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You guys did a pretty good job explaining the bare essentials to me a while ago. Intel apparently has their version of PBO with the newest chips.

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So is it fruitless for me to manually set overclocking settings on a PBO-enabled chip?

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:00 AM

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Well, not really, but it's annoying, better to find some good PBO settings and call it a day.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Whatever the settings on its chip were, it can reach 4.6ghz when necessary. Seems high enough, but I am inclined to consider pushing it above 100 or 200mhz.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:04 AM

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Some overclocking is always fun, but do remember, that 100mhz-200mhz means very little in the general scope of things performance wise

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Yeah, I've seen videos describing how marginal the differences were.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:10 AM

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If you do want to get into OCing for fun and competition, shameless plug >:D
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runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 3:11 AM

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I appreciate the gesture, but all this, despite how I say them, is merely interest of knowledge.

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:13 AM

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Hwbot is just a fun thing that exists that I'll bring up, no requirement to join or anything, but I do suggest you look around there, it's fun, can show you some OCs for scale, and can give you some nice stats on the general OC performance of componets.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 3:14 AM

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I'll take it under consideration.

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:52 AM

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im brawing a blank

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what are the cubes by the cpu called

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:52 AM

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VRMs?

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:53 AM

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yeeeee

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wait VSOC right

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or is that diff

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MOSFETs

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arent they called MOSFETs

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nvm im very confused MOSFETs arent for cooling

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VRMs are right

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Vrm is mosfet.....

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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oh xD

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:56 AM

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(mosfet is a part of the vrms)

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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so what is the VRM for

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i thought it was for cooling but i think im wrong

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like a specialized heat sink for a cpu

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Voltage Regulation Module, it regulates the voltage and makes your power from 12v power to (usually around) 1.3v for CPU

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words are bad

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Hey I built a pc today and I have a solid white light for the cpu ez debug led

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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which light

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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White

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Solid

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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hollow thorn Voltage Regulation Module, it regulates the voltage and makes your power from 12...

right right right

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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@smoky geode better explanation
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smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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is it just cpu light on

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Yup

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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what cpu and motherboard

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Ryzen 5 5600x b450

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They are compatible

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Did you update bios?

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I cant post

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Then that's the issue? Use bios flashback to get the bios you need if the board has it

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Doesnt but I cleared the bios

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With the battery method

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Clearing cmos doesn't do anything if the bios version isn't compatible with a zen 3 chip

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Oh frr

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How can I do a buos flashback without my PC posting

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:01 AM

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b450 boards don't come out of box with bios compatible with zen 3, the update that gave zen 3 support to b450 came very recently

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What motherboard

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Tomohawk max wifi

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I thought my mobo was bad

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😅

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Grab a usb stick, get the new bios on there, rename it to MSI.ROM, plug it into the bios flashback port as indicated in the manual, and press the button

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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There is no button though

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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at least you got a MSI board that had bios flashback, any other b450 board and you'd be kinda screwed

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uh what

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I'm pretty sure tomahawk had bios flashback, lemme check

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tomahawk max:

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elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Does the cpu have to be out?

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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doesn't have to

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but it's good to do if possible

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Good

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Uhh mine doesnt have that

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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bios flashback can be finnicky sometimes

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Can I send you a pick?

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:04 AM

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can u send a pic of the io board

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i had that mobo it had that button

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I need roles to send it here

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:04 AM

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pic to link

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I'll be off, but I think you don't have a tomahawk max then

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:05 AM

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I'm soo dum

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I have the bazooka max wifi

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Well, at that point, I'd just return and get a new b550 board that does have bios flashback xD

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:07 AM

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lol wait you have a completely different motherboard?

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Yup

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Ima just ask micro center to do a bios flashback

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Cuz I dont wanna buy another cpu or board

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I got mine open box for cheap

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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ah gotcha

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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You sure that's the problem though cuz the white light usually means there is a problem with the cpu

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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is the cpu open box

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:09 AM

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No lol

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I'm not that cheap

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And I didnt bend any pins

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:10 AM

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yeah i mean if the board and cpu are compatible and the cpu has nothing wrong with it then its the motherboard

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Can you check for me

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Maybe I'm just blind

smoky geode Feb 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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check what

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I sent you a pic

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Thats exactly thebproblem

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Need new bios

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Microcenter will do flash for you

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B450 doesnt support out of the box. Neither does 550 or x570 yet

long scaffold Feb 15, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Alr thx

vale oracle Feb 15, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Will a cpu without intergrated graphics boot to BIOS

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 4:40 AM

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For whatever reason my parents computer keeps restarting whenever something taking "too much power" touches it or gets plugged in, any ideas (not static)? It's an ASRock B450 Micro Atx board, I can find the exact model if needed.

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:41 AM

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vale oracle Will a cpu without intergrated graphics boot to BIOS

No

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Not without a gpu

vale oracle Feb 15, 2021, 4:42 AM

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Lets go

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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@potent dew either thats a problem with your house or your PSU

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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PSU is a 450W iirc

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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I have seen it before, a PSU has the chops to power a build but muddy wall power can screw you over

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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Outlet can def handle it

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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It happened to linus in one of his scrapyard wars

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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The wall powered another 450W computer and more befpre though

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And that one was older plus a lower efficiency rating

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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You either need some way to clean up wall power like a UPS or a new PSU

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Yeah, its this specific PSU

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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Forgot the brand/model 🤔

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Dunno, but the USB port is one of the front ports

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Back port doesn't have the same problem

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Should've said that before...

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@pale mist

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Hmm

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Now thats odd, but probably another thing to do with the PSU

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At 15 mins or so he runs into a similar problem

potent dew Feb 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Okay

pale mist Feb 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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I think that is about the same thing that is going on here

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And frankly the easiest option is to run out and get a thermaltake smart-power 500w or something

ruby laurel Feb 15, 2021, 6:25 AM

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vale oracle Will a cpu without intergrated graphics boot to BIOS

technically yes but you wont be seeing anything

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lol

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 6:59 AM

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For the past hour, I held onto a PC game with my CPU PBO options raising it to 4.8ghz with no faults. All kept between 63-68c, which I suppose is good for OC temps. Not a lot of significant gains in terms of FPS, but good to know the limits.

runic vigil Feb 15, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I've been running HWMonitor on a computer game, and I take back what I said about single-core boosting performance on some games. I'm reading a boost of 4.6ghz on almost all cores running when playing Death Stranding. So the process is depending on the program...

magic cedar Feb 15, 2021, 4:39 PM

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hwmonitor kinda wack

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:40 PM

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HWINFO64 better

hollow thorn Feb 15, 2021, 4:41 PM

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HOWINFO lol

elfin warren Feb 15, 2021, 4:41 PM

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fat fingers this morning

tough relic Feb 15, 2021, 9:33 PM

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is a 9th gen i7 a good upgrade from i5 8400

grizzled bloom Feb 15, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Maybe. A 9600 is probably not, pretty small upgrade comparably, but if you need the extra 2 cores a 9700 might be worth it.

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Personally I'd hold off on upgrading until you can go to a 10 or 11 series

mild jackal Feb 15, 2021, 9:47 PM

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What board? You can get a 9700k < $200

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 12:18 AM

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what's the best ram for under $85 msrp?

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 12:18 AM

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for what chip

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 12:18 AM

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5 3600 or 5600x

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 12:19 AM

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this is barely over
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164173

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:11 AM

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@naive pendant holy hell get the 5600x

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I mean if its not for gaming and you get a really good deal maybe 3600x but if not

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 5:11 AM

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they were asking about what ram to get for it

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:12 AM

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Well

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Still

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:16 AM

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pale mist <@456226577798135808> holy hell get the 5600x

wh why i was thinking of just upgrading later so i dont have to send as much money rn

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:17 AM

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Yeah

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:17 AM

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so im getting the 3600 first

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:17 AM

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But the 5600x has a whole lot better clock speed

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And same price-ish

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:18 AM

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bruh the 5600x is $100 more

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:18 AM

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You will get noticeably better performance in games sometimes

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Well

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:18 AM

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i was gonna do 3600

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sell it back for $150

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and then get the 5600x

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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I mean you can

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I wouldn’t

covert crown Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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if you get the 3900x i think you get a free wraith prism cooler

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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But i see how waiting sucks

covert crown Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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its like 100 bucks more than the 3600 though

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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Wha...

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Both the 5s have coolers too

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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3900x has a $500 msrp

covert crown Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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oh they do

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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3600 is $200

covert crown Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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nvm then

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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5600x is $300

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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A used 3900x?

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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used?

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hm

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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I LOVE used stuff

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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i wonder how much it'd drop tho

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if it drops to like 400

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im just going for 5600x screw that

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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I always buy used everything

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A used 3900x is abt 400 or lower rn

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:21 AM

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idk man

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a new 5600x if you can find it at a drop is 300

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:21 AM

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I did

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Not crazy hard BH photo video best place for it

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Easier than the 30series

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:22 AM

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30 series just camp bestbuy

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:22 AM

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I live in alaska its kinda hard

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:22 AM

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ah

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Sticking with the r9 fury anyway

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Great little beast of a GPU

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Anyway just get the 5600x, thats my angle.

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:24 AM

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also if im going 5600x

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should i grab an aftermarket cooler

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or nah

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@pale mist

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Yeah

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You probably should

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The stock one on the 3600x is fine kinda but on the 5600x wont last too long

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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any recommendations for like $50?

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Hmm

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Do you know aliexpress?

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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ID cooling SSE 224xt

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Or that

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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$30

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Aliexpress is cheaper

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The snowman cooler

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Love them

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:28 AM

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yayyyy semiquestionable coolers on a very nice shiny cpu lmaoooo

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Thats how i roll xD

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The snowman is pretty well known tho

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:28 AM

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idk ive been eyeing the 212

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or that chromax low profile noctua one whatever it's called

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Classic

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Not the absolute greatest but a classic to be sure

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:29 AM

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mhm

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:29 AM

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ID cooling makes some great stuff

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At that price point

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:30 AM

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ima check it out

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:30 AM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1563866-REG/be_quiet_bk007_pure_rock_2_black.html?ap=y&smp=y

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:30 AM

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pure rock 2?

pale mist Feb 16, 2021, 5:30 AM

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@naive pendant this is a drip tho

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:31 AM

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idk im still looking at id hold on

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im on their website rn

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 5:32 AM

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for $50 just get a fuma 2

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 5:32 AM

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bruh they keep talking about northern europe

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it's a cpu cooler chill

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 7:55 AM

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So, ASUS’ 1660 Super Dual Mini OC any good?

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https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Graphics-Cards/All-series/DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-MINI/

ASUS Global

DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-MINI｜Graphics Cards｜ASUS Global

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:18 AM

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Not anymore

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How much do you think you are going to pay for it @vale oracle

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:19 AM

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What currency do you want that in

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:19 AM

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USD

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:19 AM

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And I’m only looking to replace to 1070 after it turned into a firework

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Oh boy you’ll be happy to know card prices are still ass over here cause 440 NZD is 310 USD

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Fun

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Overpriced

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Still one of the cheapest 1660 Supers

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Try and get a 3060

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Same price, much better performance

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 AM

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Ah yes that is not within budget

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860 NZ

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 AM

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USD?

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 AM

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630 USD

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For a 3060 to

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Ti*

dark flame Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Ooooh ouch

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Get one at MSRP

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And I said 3060, not 3060Ti

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 AM

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There aren’t any 3060’s in the country

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That’s unfortunate

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 AM

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Well

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 AM

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And like I said Card Prices are ass over here, 630 is MSRP

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 AM

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They release on the 25th

dark flame Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 AM

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That’s rough. Hate to hear that. Tariffs suck.

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 AM

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360 USD for a 2060 Tuf OC

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:24 AM

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That’s not bad

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:24 AM

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https://origin-www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/TUF-RTX2060-O6G-GAMING/overview/

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Ouch it’s out of stock, 1660ti for the same price.

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 8:27 AM

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2060 best bet

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Better than 1660Ti

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2070 perhaps?

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What about one of those?

vale oracle Feb 16, 2021, 8:40 AM

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@void jolt 1080 for 240?

humble wasp Feb 16, 2021, 2:51 PM

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what is batter 48 gb ram or 216 gb ram?

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4x8 or 2x16 **

fickle iris Feb 16, 2021, 2:52 PM

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depends

deft inlet Feb 16, 2021, 2:52 PM

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lol ok

fickle iris Feb 16, 2021, 2:53 PM

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if the 2 x 16gb kit is dual rank then no real difference

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:53 PM

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sweet spot is 2x8

fickle iris Feb 16, 2021, 2:53 PM

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no dual rank then though

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if you want performance benefit of dual rank

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:53 PM

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unless u need them bigg boi ramm

humble wasp Feb 16, 2021, 2:54 PM

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thank you so go for 2 is batter

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:56 PM

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humble wasp thank you so go for 2 is batter

always

plain ridge Feb 16, 2021, 2:57 PM

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helo

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:57 PM

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i stil dunno how quad channel improves over dual tbh

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 2:57 PM

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not quad

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:57 PM

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but yea, dual is the most common

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that one said 4x8 or 2x16 so yea

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 2:58 PM

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its not quad channel

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its 2 dual channels

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 2:58 PM

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hmmmm

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i have no interest nor have use of dual dual channel so yea

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i searched it and it said quad

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just plain ol google lol

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topmost result

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 3:00 PM

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There is no more quad channel. There are pairs of sticks in a channel. Hence on the board it says A1, A2, B1/B2.

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A is one channel, B is another

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 3:00 PM

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ah ok that clears things

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Quad channel is only a thing for Threadripper and Xeons

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 3:00 PM

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ic ic ic

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 3:02 PM

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With AMD, rank makes a difference, IE chips on both sides of the ram stick or just one side. One side is single rank, both sides is dual rank.

glossy dust Feb 16, 2021, 3:03 PM

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lol more in depth part guides i need

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gonna search that tommorow

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Honestly, it only seems to be an improvement in synthetic tests and benchmarks. Real world results, doesn't matter much. Speed and timings make more of a difference

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Vintage

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Do you know of any videos that provide a super in depth view of what all the different parts and stuff do?

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And what makes certain parts different?

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Not really that I'm aware of

desert lagoon Feb 16, 2021, 4:38 PM

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howdy hope all is well, i was referred here , I am looking to update and have a Mobo question, I need choose a motherboard that has an LPT connector. How do I search or see the specs that would show that information? I had in mind a board such as this

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MSI MEG X570 ACE Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:38 PM

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A parallel port??

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Those haven't been on motherboards for a decade or more

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Is it for a printer or a hard drive or ? Why do you need an LPT connector @desert lagoon

desert lagoon Feb 16, 2021, 4:40 PM

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yeah, so it is actually used to comunicate with some CNC motor controllers stuff. Sorry not my expertise on whats underneath the hood

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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It's oK, i just haven't seen a request for an LPT port in YEARS

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No motherboard is going to have one

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We'll have to use an adapter

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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There is exactly 1 AM4 board that I can tell that has a LPT port

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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USB to LPT exists?

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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hollow thorn There is exactly 1 AM4 board that I can tell that has a LPT port

Which one

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Msi A320M Pro-VHL

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Huh

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Yea, converter time

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Just use USB to LPT lol

desert lagoon Feb 16, 2021, 4:45 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-Thermal-Motherboard/dp/B07FWY246F/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=motherboard&qid=1613418386&sr=8-6 this is one that was recommended by the previous builder but it isnt latest

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Well, what's the system that's going to be built?

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Hi guys! I have a question, what is the best motherboard for ryzen 5 3600?
I have samsung 970 evo plus nvme 500gb
Gtx 1660s
Gskill ripjaw 3600mhz 16cl
Tia!

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:45 PM

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As in, what CPU are you going to be using?

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@errant knoll What's the budget?

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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errant knoll Hi guys! I have a question, what is the best motherboard for ryzen 5 3600? I ha...

Any B550 above a hundred dollars or X570 made by ASUS

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I mean, depends on budget

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and tbh I don't like x570-plus

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Around $100 @hollow thorn 😀

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Do you need wifi or no?

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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hollow thorn and tbh I don't like x570-plus

Why?

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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No i dont need it

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM

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I love the thing

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Bios flashback

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lack thereof, and for a 200$ board

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@errant knoll One option is a B550m Pro4 at 110$

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I have aorus b550m elite and it got broke idk why lol

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Oh ok ok thanks! @hollow thorn 😀

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I'd like to suggest the b550m aorus pro, which is usually 125$ or so, that does have bios flashback, but yea

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:47 PM

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hollow thorn lack thereof, and for a 200$ board

X570 pro then

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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just climbing in price eh?

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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void jolt X570 pro then

No flashback either

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Yes it does?

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Wait one

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Oh, the TUF does

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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hollow thorn I'd like to suggest the b550m aorus pro, which is usually 125$ or so, that does ...

Hmm is it good mobo? I love aorus haha

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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Not the PRIME

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I meant the TUF PRO

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Not prime

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Well, it's out of stock at the normal price, which is why I didn't sugest it

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Fair enough

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B550 TUF good too

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:49 PM

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150$ is way to much to ask for it, ~120$ is normal price @errant knoll
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-p/p/N82E16813145256

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Because for 160$, you can get an Aorus elite

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Or TUF B550

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Yea, 150$ is just silly, don't buy it for that much

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:51 PM

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hollow thorn 150$ is way to much to ask for it, ~120$ is normal price <@!729676103722991626> ...

In my country the aorus b550m pro is $164

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:51 PM

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What country?

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I can find semi-reliably regional pricing

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:52 PM

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hollow thorn What country?

Philippines hahaha

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:52 PM

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oh god no

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please no lazada

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Hahaha its shopee 😂

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:52 PM

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it's the bane of my existance

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okay good

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Should I buy this aorus b550m pro?

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I'll look around for you

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:53 PM

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I mean is it good to my pc?

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:53 PM

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hollow thorn I'll look around for you

Oh ok thank u!

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I appreciate it! ☺️

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Also, I believe these guys are a Philippian retailer too
https://dynaquestpc.com/

DynaQuest PC

Computer retail store in the Philippines selling computer products including hardware, software, upgrades, accessories and more.

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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H8 making builds for people in the Philippines. Prices are all over the place there.

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I have watched some videos on yt and it says the asus rog strix b450 f is the best mobo for ryzen 5 3600

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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not now

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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hollow thorn Also, I believe these guys are a Philippian retailer too https://dynaquestpc.com...

Yes i know that haha

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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a year ago, maybe

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 PM

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errant knoll I have watched some videos on yt and it says the asus rog strix b450 f is the be...

Was, not anymore

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I had it

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Was good for my 3600

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:55 PM

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void jolt H8 making builds for people in the Philippines. Prices are all over the place th...

Hahaha true

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Because of pandemic

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Yep

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And weird Philippines retailers

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:56 PM

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and also screw lazada

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:56 PM

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void jolt Was, not anymore

Aw, well any suggestions for my mobo? Haha

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:56 PM

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hollow thorn and also screw lazada

Yeah screw lazada! Hahaha

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 4:58 PM

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another option, lower tier board but should still do fine, it just seems to be more of a reasonable price
https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/motherboard-socket-am4/products/gigabyte-b550m-ds3h-am4

DynaQuest PC

Gigabyte B550M DS3H (AM4) Motherboard

Supports 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors Dual Channel ECC/ Non-ECC Unbuffered DDR4, 4 DIMMs 5+3 Phases Pure Digital VRM Solution with Low RDS(on) MOSFETs Ultra Durable™ PCIe 4.0 Ready x16 Slot Dual Ultra-Fast NVMe PCIe 4.0/3.0 M.2 Connectors High Quality Audio Capacitors and Audio Noise Guard for Ultimate Audio Quality G

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otherwise the aorus elite on shopee for 6643php is your other option

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 4:59 PM

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hollow thorn another option, lower tier board but should still do fine, it just seems to be m...

Wow thanks u so much for ur effort friend! I really appreciate it thank u!

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 5:00 PM

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hollow thorn another option, lower tier board but should still do fine, it just seems to be m...

Has worked for a lot of people I know

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Only mATX tho

errant knoll Feb 16, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Im gonna check that thanks!

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 5:00 PM

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:)

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@void jolt Yea, I know ds3h works, it's just lower end if they want to go for it

magic cedar Feb 16, 2021, 5:00 PM

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ds3h has no debugs :(

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 5:01 PM

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one of the sad bits about lower end board

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debug, flashback, io, vrms

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vrms won't really matter for 3600, io depends on the person, no flashback is fine for 3600

magic cedar Feb 16, 2021, 5:02 PM

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spoopy vrms

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 5:02 PM

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it's all about not asking too many questions

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 5:07 PM

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hollow thorn it's all about not asking too many questions

You trying to tell me something here?

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 5:08 PM

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was making a joke

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@magic cedar ds3h does have 5 true phases of some spoopy mosfet, but hey, at least there's a good number

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real weird driver tho

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Alright here’s a question

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What exactly does a MOSFET do?

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 5:10 PM

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Power switching at high frequencies

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https://components101.com/articles/mosfet-symbol-working-operation-types-and-applications

Components101

Fundamentals of MOSFETs and Their Working

void jolt Feb 16, 2021, 5:10 PM

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That’s what I heard

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Or something similar at least

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 5:11 PM

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@void jolt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRHV3qtSWc

YouTube

Actually Hardcore Overclocking

How VRMs work (I give up edition)

The basic principles of how a motherboard or GPU VRM works.

Patreon and Shirts: http://cxzoid.blogspot.co.uk/p/paypal-safer-easier-way-to-pay-online.html
The Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/buildzoid
The blog: http://cxzoid.blogspot.co.uk/
The Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/actuallyhardcoreoverclocking

▶ Play video

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Just think of it as a switch

midnight pollen Feb 16, 2021, 5:54 PM

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lol

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 7:58 PM

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magic cedar ds3h has no debugs :(

Dont need debugs if you get a $30 q code reader BigBrain

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Hello Everyone -- I am interested in upgrading my RAM memory for my PC, but I am not sure what the PC/Motherboard can support. I am in need of some advice/assistance. Consider me a noob when it comes to hardware, and I want to make sure I do it right. I am happy to provide current specs as needed. Thank you! -- also let me know if this would be better served in a different thread. thanks.

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:12 PM

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What cpu, and how much ram do you want?

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You can find what cpu you have with cpuz

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Current CPU: Intel Core i5 4460 . Current RAM is 8 GB. I have 2 slots of 4GB each. And 2 slots open. I am considering jumping to 16GB?

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Current Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC -- Z97-E/USB 3.1 (SOCKET 1150)

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:18 PM

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I'd try to find a matching kit of what you have now, but if its more than ~$70, just get a 2x8 kit

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You can check the spd tab in cpuz to find the part number of your current ram

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:19 PM

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I am using Speccy to get the details

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Okay, does speccy give you a part number?

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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this is for the SPD slot?

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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speccy can be very iffy, use cpuz if you have a chance

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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if so: i see F3-14900CL9-4GBSR

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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memory was running 4000mhz 18-18-18-36 and my buddy was arguing that CL18 was bad even tho it was 4000mhz
What do you guys think of 3600 14-15-15-31

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 8:21 PM

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What CPU?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 PM

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naive pendant if so: i see F3-14900CL9-4GBSR

That's the part number, ebay will be your best friend

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 PM

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If you're on zen 3, might be able to do like 3733/3800 c16 or so and gain better performance

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I'm running i7-7700k

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 PM

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limber dragon That's the part number, ebay will be your best friend

So you are suggesting that I search to find the same parts I am already using and buy 2 more sticks?

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:23 PM

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any free benchmarks to measure memory speed appart from AIDA64 ?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:24 PM

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naive pendant So you are suggesting that I search to find the same parts I am already using an...

Yup, that'll be easiest plug and play. If you cant find a second kit to supplement it, compare it to the price of a 2x8 kit

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:25 PM

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misty obsidian any free benchmarks to measure memory speed appart from AIDA64 ?

Superpi, ycruncher

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:26 PM

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limber dragon Yup, that'll be easiest plug and play. If you cant find a second kit to suppleme...

apologies for my ignorance... but can you define a 2x8 kit? does that mean buying two new 8GB sticks to input... and basically not needing the 2 4GBs anymore?

grizzled bloom Feb 16, 2021, 8:26 PM

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misty obsidian memory was running 4000mhz 18-18-18-36 and my buddy was arguing that CL18 was ba...

3600@CL14 is 7.77 ns latency, 4000@CL18 is 9 ns
On Intel, the 3600 would be better

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In theory of course

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Strictly speaking of latency

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 8:27 PM

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remember that's cas latency

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not even real first word read latency

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but it serves as a decent comparison ig

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:28 PM

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So right now you have 2 sticks of 4GB each (a 2x4 kit). If you can't find a second 2x4 kit to make it 4x4 total, look for a 2x8 kit

grizzled bloom Feb 16, 2021, 8:28 PM

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I should have been more clear, I can see where that friend could be coming from but typically yeah faster clock speed is going to be better unless it's dramatically different latencies

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:29 PM

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hollow thorn remember that's cas latency

And in terms of primaries, cl doesn't make the biggest difference, its just the first number in the list

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 8:30 PM

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yea

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there's a tRCD latency in ns people sometimes use iirc?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:30 PM

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The 4000 kit will perform better than the 3600 kit in games that depend on avx

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Rcd+rp affect performance more than cl

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:33 PM

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limber dragon So right now you have 2 sticks of 4GB each (a 2x4 kit). If you can't find a seco...

Hi Sir Fitz. I found this within Ebay: 8GB (2x4GB) G.SKILL SNIPER F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR DDR3-1333MHz Regular Desktop RAM ----- would this be a correct addition for my PC?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Mind getting cpuz and posting the spd tab?

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Not sure what specific timing you guys are talking about

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:35 PM

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What you found before and I mistakenly said is the part number is actually the jedec bin

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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is it one of these ?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:41 PM

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limber dragon Mind getting cpuz and posting the spd tab?

will look like this

📎 unknown.png

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:45 PM

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DDR3 -- PCs-12800 (800 Mhz) -- G.Skill -- Part: F3-14900CL9-4GBSR

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(sorry i couldn't get a screenshot pasted)

misty obsidian Feb 16, 2021, 8:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:47 PM

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naive pendant (sorry i couldn't get a screenshot pasted)

can you pm me the ss? its just the bot and roles preventing you afaik

inner swallow Feb 16, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Hello, anyone has the answer if rog crosshair viii hero with amd 5900x will be compatible with wifi6?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:50 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/p/136164641?iid=274685421857 @naive pendant

eBay

G. SKILL 16 GB UDIMM 1866 MHz PC3-14900 DDR3 Memory (F3-1866C9D-16G...

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for G. SKILL 16 GB UDIMM 1866 MHz PC3-14900 DDR3 Memory (F3-1866C9D-16GSR) at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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wait jk that's a single stick

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:51 PM

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This is what I search for before in Ebay: 8GB (2x4GB) G.SKILL SNIPER F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR DDR3-1333MHz Regular Desktop RAM

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:51 PM

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nvm, the poster is just bad at english

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:52 PM

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your link is a 2x8 kit?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:52 PM

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yeah, its 2x8

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-X-8GB-2x-4GB-240-Pin-DDR3-1866-PC3-14900-Desktop-Memory/284186130721?hash=item422ad03921:g:vDkAAOSwHhlgK0Cl here's 2x4 with the same specs, might just look different though

eBay

G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Deskto...

Ripjaws X Series. DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900). 8GB (2x 4GB). 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM. Multi-channel Kit.

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:54 PM

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the look i don't care as much... so price aside.... do you recommend a 2x8 approach... or a 2x4 (really a 4x4) approach..... or does it not matter?

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and if i went with the 2x8.. can i keep the 2x4 that is currently in place? giving a 24 total?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 8:55 PM

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2x4 since its $30

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mixing 4GB and 8GB sticks can cause headaches

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 8:57 PM

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ok. good to know. I will check into the 2x4 you gave me. thank you.

tough relic Feb 16, 2021, 10:07 PM

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grizzled bloom Personally I'd hold off on upgrading until you can go to a 10 or 11 series

i ant go above 9th gen cause of the socket

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i am just running into a cpu botllneck for my 3070 so I need something that can outperform it

deep patrol Feb 16, 2021, 10:09 PM

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What is the best ASUS mother board

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to match the Ryzen 5900

grizzled bloom Feb 16, 2021, 10:11 PM

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tough relic i am just running into a cpu botllneck for my 3070 so I need something that can ...

You'd probably want an i9 if you really don't want to change the board, Intel is kinda bad about upgrades. The 3070 is tough to keep up with.
I meant before that I would personally save my money to upgrade the platform later, the 10 and 11 series use the same socket. It would be a much better upgrade.

tough relic Feb 16, 2021, 10:12 PM

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yeah but upgrading cpu and mobo after a gpu upgrade is really expensive

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might as well build a new pc

grizzled bloom Feb 16, 2021, 10:15 PM

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i9 then, you'll want those threads

tough relic Feb 16, 2021, 10:15 PM

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do you think 650 watt psu can handle it?

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 10:17 PM

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3070? Yeah

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If it's a quality one

grizzled bloom Feb 16, 2021, 10:17 PM

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With a i9 9900, still most likely

tough relic Feb 16, 2021, 10:17 PM

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alright tnaks

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thanks*

clever zodiac Feb 16, 2021, 10:24 PM

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does the cpu brand affect the ram? like i need some type in amd that i dont need in intel

elfin warren Feb 16, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Nope

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RAM is RAM

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don't pay attention to the Intel vs AMD RAM marketing garbage lol

clever zodiac Feb 16, 2021, 10:29 PM

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i bought a 16gb 3200 corsair venganse rgb pro and they are some that have amd xmp i think

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but this one says intel

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 10:30 PM

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the amd xmp just means it has even cl for xmp

clever zodiac Feb 16, 2021, 10:30 PM

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so it doesnt matter?

limber dragon Feb 16, 2021, 10:31 PM

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doesnt matter

clever zodiac Feb 16, 2021, 10:34 PM

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ok thx

sour sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:37 PM

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I need a gaming laptop but don’t want to spend a lot of money. Hopefully below $900 any ideas

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Well, how urgent is the need? I would wait a few months if possible for Nvidia low end parts

naive pendant Feb 16, 2021, 11:55 PM

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Would anyone want my newegg shuffle for a 5800x I ended up with two of them after I bought one from best buy then won shuffle

hollow thorn Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Rule 9, no selling sadly

runic vigil Feb 16, 2021, 11:59 PM

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And here I was, thinking I'd sell off my 1070 here at a minimum if I somehow won the lottery. Guess I'd prosper to Facebook Marketplace.

tawdry ember Feb 17, 2021, 1:57 AM

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hi folks, so my friend just built a pc for the first time, and we ran into some ram/cpu issues. It will usually boot (the pc), but sometimes it won't boot, but will have a little light flashing on the motherboard labeled cpu. We believe this to be a ram issue because we usually can get it running by reseating the ram sticks (dual channel, in slots 1 and 3). After taking the ram out and putting it back in, the computer will usually start, but without the usual beep sound (all audio cables are connected). Any advice?

grizzled bloom Feb 17, 2021, 3:19 AM

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tawdry ember hi folks, so my friend just built a pc for the first time, and we ran into some ...

The CPU light is usually a good indicator of some kind of CPU issue or other hardware configuration issue.
What motherboard is it? Many boards want the RAM in 2 and 4 for dual channel.

tawdry ember Feb 17, 2021, 3:23 AM

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It is an MSI B550 motherboard. I say slots 1 and 3, but the mb has it labeled as slot a1 (1) and a2 (3)

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For the ram

grizzled bloom Feb 17, 2021, 3:39 AM

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You want A2 and B2

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Second and fourth slots, counting from CPU on the left

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:41 AM

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mild jackal Feb 17, 2021, 5:42 AM

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Please talk windshields into putting his ssd list into a google doc like you

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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dw

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aegis is eventually gonna publish his KEK

mild jackal Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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my god

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You all made .cultsists gmails

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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all 3.7k drives

mild jackal Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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keanureeves

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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mild jackal You all made .cultsists gmails

we have NDA's under cultist

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devout mothBOT Feb 17, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Arshia#2457 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:44 AM

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and this...thing

mild jackal Feb 17, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Where did conmul go

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That reminds me of his old pfp

mild birch Feb 17, 2021, 5:44 AM

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idk
he dissapeared from tech

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showed up in my server

nova ridge Feb 17, 2021, 6:03 AM

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32 vs 64 vs 128 Ram. What tasks would you benefit from increasing the size

dark flame Feb 17, 2021, 6:04 AM

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What do you do primarily?

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Gaming? Workstation?

nova ridge Feb 17, 2021, 6:04 AM

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gaming

dark flame Feb 17, 2021, 6:04 AM

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you’ll be fine with 32

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I’ve got 16 and never topped out

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Unless you want to have 10000 chrome tabs open

nova ridge Feb 17, 2021, 6:05 AM

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haha

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what about dual screen?

dark flame Feb 17, 2021, 6:06 AM

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shouldn’t make a huge difference, if you’ve got budget for 32 and can get decently fast ram, that’ll be perfect

pale mist Feb 17, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Omg this board i am working on is a pain

nova ridge Feb 17, 2021, 6:15 AM

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dark flame shouldn’t make a huge difference, if you’ve got budget for 32 and can get decent...

thank you

pale mist Feb 17, 2021, 6:16 AM

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First a temp misreading then coil whine then cooler malfunction and now it is being very annoying about sata

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I have 2 working drives and 2 working sata cables and 2 sata power cables

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And 1 drive on bios

raven vigil Feb 17, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Will a b365m motherboard work with 3060 ti?

tawdry ember Feb 17, 2021, 12:24 PM

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grizzled bloom

Thanks bud, will do!

spark spade Feb 17, 2021, 5:32 PM

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So I am doing a white pc build, and had planned to go with an asus rog strix b550-a. However I may have access at a prime x570-pro for the same price. My concern is with the new generation ryzen chips (aiming for a 9 5900 or 7 5800) it requires a bios flash. Should I go for it? Can you flash it?

pale mist Feb 17, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Yeah you can flash on any mobo

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More and more high end mobos these days come with updated bioses to support zen 3 just try it first

magic cedar Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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you can technically flash any board, but its harder on some

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some have a built in feature that makes it easy

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some you need to get a cpu from amd just to update bios

pale mist Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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The amount of lga 775 boards i have flashed

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I have built up an immunity to bios flashing 😆

timber dirge Feb 17, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I got a question, so I'm a first time builder and I bought g skill ripjaws v but on the packaging it says designed for intel 6th intel processors and the reviews, so does that mean it's only compatible with Intel because I'm going to using a 3600

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:24 PM

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it does not, should work fine with AMD or Intel.

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Just marketing garbage

timber dirge Feb 17, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Alright guys I appreciate it, thanks

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 7:48 PM

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How is the Rog Crosshair VIII Hero wifi?

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Should i get the "Crosshair VIII Hero" or the "Aorus Ultra"?

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:49 PM

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good, but expensive do you need any of the specific features on the board?

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 7:50 PM

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i don't rly know the features about the hero

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xD

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I would consider cheaper options unless you just want the aesthetic

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 7:51 PM

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cuz im going for a just little overkill and all black

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:52 PM

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maybe this ? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XV6qqs/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite-wifi

Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 7:54 PM

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the memory speed is "only 4000mhz" and i don't like it so much

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:55 PM

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most 5000 series CPUs can only get 1900Fclk so idk if you will make much use of over 4000 RAM.

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 7:55 PM

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@manic hull Aorus elite wifi sucks for having only 2 sys fan headers

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and no, with agesa 1.2.0, most zen 3 CPUs can hit 2000fclk

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:56 PM

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i guess things have changed since launch

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Yea, agesa 1.2.0 came out like half a month ago?

manic hull Feb 17, 2021, 7:57 PM

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rather recent, i wonder if there'll be similar improvements in the future

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but would you agree that getting a board that supports over 4000Mhz isn't necessary? or do you think most chips can get 2100Fclk?

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 7:59 PM

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what do fclk and all of that mean?

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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No, I disagree, max and what you'll hit with say dr 1dpc/sr 2dpc is different

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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i updated my bios yesterday and that popped up

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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or hell, even dr 2dpc

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FCLK is infinity fabric clock

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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is that a thing on ryzen 3000?

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i think it is

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idk for sure

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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all Ryzen chips

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:00 PM

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so what do we set that as

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in bios?

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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but what board would you guys suggest?
best all black
x570

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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umm

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Well, you could leave em manual

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@digital falcon X570 Unify is the absolute best black x570 board imo

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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i have xmp enabled

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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300$ tho

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:02 PM

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does that matter if xmp is enabled?

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Usually in the section where xmp is located, there is a setting to set your ram clock to fclk to be proportional, aka. 1:1 mode, and that'll do

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 PM

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what is it proportional to?

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the ram speed?

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or to cpu speed?

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Ram operating frequency

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 PM

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so if the ram is rated for 3600 mhz

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i would set it to 3600mh

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 PM

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For example, 3600'mhz' ram operates at 1800mhz

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:03 PM

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oh

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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because the "DDR" in DDR4 stands for double data rate

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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okok

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thx for the info

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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1800mhz ram can do 3600 megatransfers per second (MT/s), and that's why it can be advertised as 3600'mhz'

novel geyser Feb 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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was extremely confused yesterday

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bc none of this showed up prior to the bios update

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and then theres another thing that says

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uclk div=0 or 1

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what is that

digital falcon Feb 17, 2021, 8:06 PM

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And i have a problem my fx-8300. It Auto overclock itself over 4ghz and then its overheating.
The problem is i can't find the overclock in the bios

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And i have a M5A78L-M lx3 mobo

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:53 PM

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pc has the dram light that comes on when i move the ram around it tends to work just gets annoying doing it all the time any tips

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 8:54 PM

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What motherboard?

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:54 PM

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b450 tomahawk max

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has a ryzen 5 3600 2060 super 16 gig of gskill rgb

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Updated the BIOS ever?

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Wait

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it does work but dram light comes on when you move the ram?

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Ram should be slots A2 and B2

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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i cant say i have but it has been working fine then monday started having this issue

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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that sounds like normal ram training

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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the ram are in the right slots

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 8:55 PM

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And consider a BIOS update if it's pitching fits with it and you've never updated it. BIOS contains ram compatibility updates as well as new CPU code.

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:56 PM

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do you know when the newest bios came out for it

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 8:57 PM

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December of 2020

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 8:59 PM

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so that explains it i prolly need to do that

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this will help with stability right

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Yes, it should

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You'll need to remember all your BIOS settings though

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BIOS update will clear all of them

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 9:03 PM

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will this hurt my pc at all

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Nope

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Just put the file on a USB stick and do it from the BIOS itself

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DON'T do it from Windows

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 9:17 PM

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wdym dont do it from windows

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Don't do it from Dragon Center

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 9:24 PM

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where do i get it from

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 9:25 PM

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The file? MSI https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#down-bios

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

unkempt sandal Feb 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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then what do i do after i get it

spark spade Feb 17, 2021, 11:11 PM

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Should I worry about buying the newer gen ryzen? I keep hearing about high failure rates on the newer cpus

elfin warren Feb 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Nah, it's fine

nova ridge Feb 17, 2021, 11:22 PM

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Im looking at intel motherboards, is there a reason to get a z490 in the next few weeks Vs z590 when the prices are so close and Z590 will be compatible with the next gen ?

hollow thorn Feb 17, 2021, 11:26 PM

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We don't know about how stock situation will play out, but it's likely z590 will just be better.

Side note, z490 is compatible with 11th gen, and 11th gen is the last Intel generation on lga1200.

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 12:51 AM

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z490 is?!?!?

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 12:52 AM

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From Intel®️,

Intel® Z490 and H470 chipset-based motherboards may require a BIOS update to boot the upcoming 11th Gen Intel® Core™ desktop processors. Intel recommends that you update the BIOS on your Intel 400 Series Chipset-based systems for compatibility with the upcoming 11th Gen Intel® Core™ desktop processors.

Note
Motherboards based on Intel® B460 or H410 chipsets are not compatible with upcoming 11th Gen Intel® Core™ processors.

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 1:39 AM

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hollow thorn From Intel®️, > Intel® Z490 and H470 chipset-based motherboards may require a B...

Thank you

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 1:45 AM

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hollow thorn We don't know about how stock situation will play out, but it's likely z590 will...

As of right now New egg has a bunch in stock for z590 thats where I got my prices from. I dont intent to upgrade to rocket lake but I might upgrade to Alder lake pending a few factors. I figure I should try and save now to have more money for upgrading later.

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I am building in april (waiting to move) and have a handful of components and have to finish out my build.

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 1:54 AM

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@nova ridge I mean, I was kind of referring to how RTX 30xx and RX 6xxx stock went, the global logistics system had some hiccups

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Why does that factor into my question?

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Z590 and 11th gen may end up being the same thing once the processors release.

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 1:58 AM

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Yea, since that's not just about TSMC silicon, the logistics system may also factor into it, and that might affect motherboard stock too.

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And once the first release runs out of stock, there might be some scalping issues with pricing like we see now

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 1:59 AM

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ahh got ya

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I am looking at these GIGABYTE Z590 UD AC, GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE AX, ASUS TUF Gaming Z590-Plus WiFi 6.

Current parts I0900k, 64G Ram, 3070

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 2:17 AM

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ma gawd

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260$ for the z590 plus

nova ridge Feb 18, 2021, 2:20 AM

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ThinkingEgg

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Im looking to get a 3080 or 3080 TI in the future but thats the core of my build

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Hi, I have a i7-6700k and Maximus Viii Hero Motherboard and when I am playing FiveM - GTA, I am getting over 70+ degrees and I start stuttering in game and getting really low fps. Can anyone help?

grizzled bloom Feb 18, 2021, 3:37 AM

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70 on the CPU? If so what's the GPU at?

split copper Feb 18, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Look at what HWiNFO says about it

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Shows throttle status

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:45 AM

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Also, the GPU would really matter

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:54 AM

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grizzled bloom 70 on the CPU? If so what's the GPU at?

Around 45-50

limber dragon Feb 18, 2021, 3:54 AM

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just means you're cpu bound

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making sure the ram is at xmp might help

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:55 AM

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What GPU do you have?

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 3:55 AM

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MIght also be worth a repaste if it's never been done

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That's a 6 year old CPU

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I think 6700k should follow with something like 85c before thermal throttling, correct?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:57 AM

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hollow thorn What GPU do you have?

Gigabyte 2060

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:57 AM

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hollow thorn I think 6700k should follow with something like 85c before thermal throttling, c...

Yep, apparently i need to take off some thermal tape or something?

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some wrapper

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Uh, wha?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Not sure almfao

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 3:58 AM

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They might be hitting 85C under load without realizing and only seeing 70+

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on a single core or 2

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:58 AM

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I kind of really want to say p95

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just smack it with a big load

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Ye, see how warm it gets

void jolt Feb 18, 2021, 3:59 AM

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6700k still a good processor, no?

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 3:59 AM

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@naive pendant try running p95, smallfft, and see how hot it gets
https://www.mersenne.org/download/

GIMPS - Free Prime95 software downloads - PrimeNet

GIMPS has free software available for Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OSX. Contribute to the effort by using your computer's spare processing power.

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Yes, should be fine

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 3:59 AM

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hollow thorn <@456226577798135808> try running p95, smallfft, and see how hot it gets https:/...

Ok

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 4:00 AM

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2060 might not do that well in fiveM though, depends on graphics settings

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gotta try stress testing CPU first to check if it's thermal throttling

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 4:00 AM

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hollow thorn 2060 might not do that well in fiveM though, depends on graphics settings

Playing all low lmfao

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Yeah ill stress test my cpu rn

hollow thorn Feb 18, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Use reliable software to track temps

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like hwinfo64

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Ok bro

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Can we go onto screenshare? So you can assist me 😄

void jolt Feb 18, 2021, 4:01 AM

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you cant screenshare in the chat channels

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only in DM or if you boost

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 4:01 AM

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In DM

torpid shore Feb 18, 2021, 9:52 AM

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RAM prices going through the roof right now. Same with GPU's.

stark laurel Feb 18, 2021, 1:45 PM

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If anybody here is trying to get a 5000 series processor or 6000 series GPU, AMD has been doing releases between 10:30 and 11:30 on Thursdays.

grizzled bloom Feb 18, 2021, 5:31 PM

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5000 Processors have been easier to get than 6000 GPUs. AMD is putting most of their GPU stock into consoles.
Newegg does a daily raffle (Shuffle) so people have a more fair chance to buy things. Today's starts in 30 minutes.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Basically GPU's are rarer in nature

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According to statistics, only 1/1000 have seen a 3080 first hand

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Friend has a 3080 that's experiencing issues that sound like they haven't been uncommon after some research. Flickering display, screen going black for a few seconds, and then yesterday her display completely cut out and won't come back. Discord stayed up and we could still talk, her character still moved around in the game we were playing, everything was fine but her monitors weren't receiving input. She took out the 3080 and plugged her monitor into her mobo but now her mobo won't send input to her monitor either. It's like the mobo won't auto-detect that there's no GPU and it needs to display through the mobo. Any suggestions?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:39 PM

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number 1, does she have an extra motherboard to test with?

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:39 PM

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No

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Number 2, can she see the screen and inputs are correctly plugged in?

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Number 3, has she tried resetting CMOS?

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like Bios has gone whack on her.

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Most motherboards will have the jumper either on, or close to the front panel connection.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:40 PM

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yes. 3) no. She doesn't have a cap/jumper, I've heard of some unorthodox methods like bridging it with a screwdriver or tin foil but I wasn't sure how stupid that is.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:40 PM

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A screwdriver is safe.

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As long as you touch that specific jumper.

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but make sure the PC is off.

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Also what MB?

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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ASRock X570 Pro4. So just turn the PC off, turn the PSU off, bridge the two pins with a screwdriver, flip the PSU on and wait a second and then flip it off?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Turn PC Off, Turn PSU Off just to be safe, touch that pin with screw driver and turn it on.

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Ive done it with the PSU on

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:43 PM

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It has to touch both pins though right?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:43 PM

#

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Yes it has jumpers

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number 19

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yes

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touch those two pins.

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with a metallic screw driver.

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and make sure the pc is off

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psu doesn't have to be off, but if she feels more comfortable with it, go ahead.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Will we have to mess around with anything in BIOS after doing this? Or will it auto-detect everything afterwards

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:44 PM

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It should autodetect if bios is going whack

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it should at the very least, be able to do basic stuff in windows

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so you can DDU the drivers

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and reinstall/update them.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:46 PM

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I did some research and it looks like there's a hotfix driver update for the 3080 to address this issue that I doubt she has since it's only about 2 weeks old. So I'm thinking once I can get display through her mobo we'll put the 3080 back in, see if it works, if it does then get drivers installed and the hotfix installed and go from there. If it doesn't work them we may have to RMA it.

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Hoping it's just a driver issue and the 3080 itself isn't shot. Finding lots of info in Evga's forums about people with similar issues.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:48 PM

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jade bobcat I did some research and it looks like there's a hotfix driver update for the 308...

hopefully she has an IGPU

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cmos should reset bios, incase like main Graphics driver changed to cpu or smth

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I doubt its the card.

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3000 series drivers were oof at launch

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even my 3070 had some oof issues at first.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I hope you're right too, she JUST got it under a month ago after we had been trying for a while, sucks to see it having issues already. We will try the CMOS reset and go from there, I appreciate your help.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:50 PM

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np.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:55 PM

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naive pendant hopefully she has an IGPU

It's a 3700x so no.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:56 PM

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jade bobcat It's a 3700x so no.

oh.

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yeah cmos should help

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im running a 3070 and a 3700x

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Got it, my bad I missed that comment earlier. Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything there.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Yep.

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CMOS.

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and I mean

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you can always try other GPU slots.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 6:59 PM

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The PCIE lane you mean?

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 7:01 PM

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yes

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PCIE x16 4.0

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or even 3.0

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Alrighty thanks again

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 7:04 PM

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np

harsh night Feb 18, 2021, 7:11 PM

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for a 10400f should i go b460 z490 or upcoming b560

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ping me with answer

grizzled bloom Feb 18, 2021, 7:12 PM

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harsh night for a 10400f should i go b460 z490 or upcoming b560

Do you want the option to upgrade to 11 series later? If so B560

harsh night Feb 18, 2021, 7:13 PM

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i mean just from a price perspective

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and its for a friend and i bet by the time he upgrades intel will be on a different socket than lga 1200

grizzled bloom Feb 18, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Go for B460 then, it'll be cheaper by a bit

harsh night Feb 18, 2021, 7:14 PM

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what advantage would i get by going z490?

grizzled bloom Feb 18, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Overclocking support, faster memory support

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The 10400f won't use either of those features

harsh night Feb 18, 2021, 7:17 PM

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kk

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this is what i got

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 8:53 PM

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naive pendant yeah cmos should help

Resetting CMOS didn't change anything unfortunately, still no input detected by either monitor from the mobo.

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 9:18 PM

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jade bobcat Resetting CMOS didn't change anything unfortunately, still no input detected by ...

oof.

jade bobcat Feb 18, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Trying the other PCIe slot and then after that, probably going to have to try a new MOBO.

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Or RMA the card.

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Opinions on Team T-Force Delta RGB White 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz ?

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 9:55 PM

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Cheap ram

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but it works

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 9:56 PM

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What dies?

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Don't know

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Don't expect to overclock it

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Ah ok, its just frustrating to wait for Crucial to restock

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Newegg had some yesterday?

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Not Canadian Newegg

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 9:57 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164173?Description=ballistix&cm_re=ballistix-_-20-164-173-_-Product&quicklink=true

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OH

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 9:58 PM

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https://www.newegg.ca/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164222?Description=crucial 32gb 3600mhz&cm_re=crucial_32gb 3600mhz-_-20-164-222-_-Product

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I can probably preorder on Amazon for cheaper but resupply won't happen til April

nova hornet Feb 18, 2021, 9:59 PM

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idk if that particular model uses the same dies as their dark z line but t force ram is actually pretty overclockable

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:00 PM

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The Delta is the cheaper line IIRC

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mebbe not

nova hornet Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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dark z was like hynix c-die iirc

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Eh

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that's a really meh overclocker

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Same die in my G Skill

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Hynix M die isn't in DRAM calc lol

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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OC is SUPER hit or miss

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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I had to do all my tuning manually.

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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How about G Skill Neo 32 3200mhz?

nova hornet Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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I'm using a 2x16 3600 kit tuned from c18 to c16

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 10:01 PM

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wait im confused

nova hornet Feb 18, 2021, 10:02 PM

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not like MONDO overclocking but at least a little tightened up

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 10:02 PM

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How to you mess with timings?

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:02 PM

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nova hornet I'm using a 2x16 3600 kit tuned from c18 to c16

For AMD really stick to 3600 if you can

naive pendant Feb 18, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Cause mine is 3733CL18

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it just converts to Cl16

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faster than 3200CL16

nova hornet Feb 18, 2021, 10:03 PM

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I thought recent bios updates made pushing the mhz easier

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:03 PM

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For 5000 series

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FCLK

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to 2000 AKA 4000 mhz ram

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Speaking of bios updates, I kinda want to see if infinity ram cache actually works (SAM)

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:03 PM

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has nothing to do with ram OC

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:03 PM

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tall belfry Speaking of bios updates, I kinda want to see if infinity ram cache actually wor...

not until the driver update from nVidia unless you have an AMD card

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Right.......I'll see if I can borrow my friends 5700XT just to see if it works

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Bench with it off and on

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See if there's a difference

tall belfry Feb 18, 2021, 10:09 PM

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@elfin warren

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I could get these, only bad thing for me is that it is black and not white for my white build

elfin warren Feb 18, 2021, 10:12 PM

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I mean

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If all you're after is 3600 mhz ram the T-Force is fine

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Just don't expect to overclock it

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It'll do XMP no problem

pale mist Feb 19, 2021, 2:39 AM

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I am haveing a very odd problem

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On a known good monitor/gpu/windows installer its doing whatever this is

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It appears to be the bios flash screen image stretched out

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Happens on hdmi and dvi but on vga it just shows another weird splash screen variation

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:16 AM

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how much is a good value to bump ram from 3200-3800/4000?

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 3:16 AM

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AMD or Intel?

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And what do you mean by good value?

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:19 AM

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intel and price wise

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:19 AM

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depends what the timings are and if you want to tighten them

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:23 AM

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limber dragon depends what the timings are and if you want to tighten them

dam you just opened up a whole new box

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timings lower the better ?

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:24 AM

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yup

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:24 AM

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From 16-20-20-38 3200 to 18-22-22-42 3600

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:25 AM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky5Bc/edit#gid=0 this is just bdie bin comparisons

Google Docs

Bdie XMP Comparisons And Predictions

Sheet1

Cas Predictions (ns),RCD Predictions (ns)
XMP Rating,Speed,Cas Lat,RCD,Voltage,XMP CL,XMP RCD,1.35v,1.4v,1.45v,1.5v,1.55v,1.6v,1.35v,1.4v,1.45v,1.5v,1.55v
Single Rank
3200 14-14-14 1.35 ,3200,14,14,1.35,8.75,8.75,8.75,8.44,8.15,7.88,7.62,7.38,8.75,8.44,8.15,7.88,7.62
3600 14-14-14 1.4,360...

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see if you can get crucial 3600c16s

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:28 AM

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limber dragon https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky...

Quick overview for me if you would please

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Cas Latency is how fast it executes?

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

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timing/frequency *2000, compare the value vs other kits

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cas latency, trcd and trp are the big 3

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

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you know a video that explains so I dont ask you 21 questions lol

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:29 AM

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the xmp is cl-trcd-trp-tras

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well do you want plug and play xmp, or overclock the ram?

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I do not plan to OC

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:31 AM

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and how much ram do you want/need?

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:31 AM

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64

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:32 AM

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and which motherboard?

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:32 AM

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I am looking at https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119370?Item=N82E16813119370

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:33 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164175?&quicklink=true

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B&H might have some in stock

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I wouldnt bother with trying to go 4x16 since the imc will hate life

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

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limber dragon and which motherboard?

I am a building a PC for the first time in years. I have spent the last few months gathering information and catching up while im waiting to move end of march. I have bought a few items already but I wanted to discuss options and get some pointers on a few things.

Current parts 10900K, Liquid freezer 2, Corsair Vengeance 64GB 2x32, MSI 3070 (want a 3080 but I was lucky to get this), Corsair 5000d.

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

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nova ridge I am a building a PC for the first time in years. I have spent the last few mont...

Make sure to use dual channel.

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5000D glass panel can look complicated.

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Just unscrew the screws

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I have the 4000D

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smaller version.

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:35 AM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548852-REG/crucial_bl2k32g36c16u4b_ballistix_64gb_32x2_3600_mhz.html

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Make sure AIO is mounted radiator on top

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:36 AM

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B&H oos too

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:36 AM

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nova ridge I am a building a PC for the first time in years. I have spent the last few mont...

Know how to reset cmos

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and flash bios

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cable manage.

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Make sure to not plug in PCIE power into CPU by accident lol

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:37 AM

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the crucial 16-18-18 memory is significantly better than the 16-22-22 you'll find from gskill or corsair

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:37 AM

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and do this while pc i soff.

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:37 AM

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limber dragon the crucial 16-18-18 memory is significantly better than the 16-22-22 you'll fin...

?

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Wait what

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I have LPX and its 16-18-18

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:37 AM

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okay?

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

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Oh. Maybe im confusing timings.

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

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are you trying to run 64gb at 3600mts?

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

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I run 32gb at 3733CL18

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I was just wondering, so crucial currently is the best correct?

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due to its micron e die.

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

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best for plug and play xmp

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 3:38 AM

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well for overtclocking.

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ah.

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I see. Thanks

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:39 AM

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I grabbed some water I missed all this lol

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:39 AM

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tldr everyone's out of the good 64GB kits

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:40 AM

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caught up, Yes thank you I am not computer illiterate or anything but I do appreciate the tips

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to swap to the crucials it would be like 25 bucks etra

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:41 AM

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yeah, and the $25 is 100% worth it

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:41 AM

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wiat my mistake

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:41 AM

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you were looking at 3600 18-22-22 kits afaik

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:43 AM

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62.75

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would be the price diff

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Checked the actual order reciept

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@limber dragon Next is storage, any suggestions there?

limber dragon Feb 19, 2021, 3:50 AM

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no idea, I just do ram

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Haha

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 3:50 AM

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RAMdisk boot drive ftw

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Thank you Fitz

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 AM

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SSD, HDD

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if you rich, have the money for just SSD.

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 AM

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I was looking at 3 M.2

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but nI have been convinced thats not cost efficient

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1x 980 Pro 500GB
1x 870 Evo Plus 500GB
1x 860 Evo Sata 2TB

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 4:07 AM

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i run 2

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1tb

nova ridge Feb 19, 2021, 4:10 AM

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I want 3 to keep my work on a seperate dirve from storage and 1 part for gaming

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Do lga 1200 motherboards support i9’s , i7’s etc?

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Of course, that only refers to the relative power of the chip compared to the others in the generation

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:07 AM

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I9 uses 1151

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iIrc

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i9 can have multiple sockets

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its all over the place.

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but LGA 1200 might support it

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Don't take my word on it

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:07 AM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/205904/intel-core-i9-10850k-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

Intel® Core™ i9-10850K Processor (20M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) Produc...

Intel® Core™ i9-10850K Processor (20M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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LGA1200

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:08 AM

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but they specified i9

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i9 can be anything in i9 series

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unless I didn't read that correctly.

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I would assume they mean the general family of chips.

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:09 AM

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Sockets change by generation, and support multiple processors within that generation.
For example, a Z490 board would support all the features of every 10th (and soon 11th) generation processor on the lga1200 socket

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:09 AM

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Yeah. So there is no "Universal" socket for intel.

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It could be LGA 1200

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IIRC 1151

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2066 even

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Yeah those were older sockets

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:10 AM

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and IIRC 1155 is i5

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:12 AM

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1155 supported the 2000 and 3000 processors, not just the "i" series but celeron and pentium also

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https://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket 1155 (LGA1155).html

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1151 Supported 6000-9000 processors

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https://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket_1151_H4_LGA1151.html

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And then we have the current 1200 socket

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https://www.cpu-world.com/Related_CPUs/Socket 1200_Comet Lake.html

naive pendant Feb 19, 2021, 5:16 AM

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ah.

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i have an old 1155 socket in my old pc lol

grizzled bloom Feb 19, 2021, 5:21 AM

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To summarize, an i9 is more powerful than an i7 in the same generation, then down to i5, and i3