cpus-mobo-and-memory

[pale mist]

I mean on some psus they have outside fans

Like the old stile that I actually prefer

But louder

[willow wren]

lmao

what about an EVGA BQ 600w

aso @desert drift do u need wifi on ur mobo

[hollow thorn]

I'd just get a Segotep SG-G over BQ, it's just a better PSU

SG-G is on the same platform as the GP-G on the ltt PSU Tier List

[desert drift]

Does he do charchol drawings? 😆

I know everyone has been really... gracious

Thank you!! Added to the shopping list

works for me

Swap for what?

[willow wren]

He’s saying get a Corsair psu and swap the fan for a noctua

[hollow thorn]

Swap as in swapping the fan that's inside the PSU

[willow wren]

But that’s a lil confusing

[hollow thorn]

It's not something you generally need to worry about

[desert drift]

My guess is that it would help

[willow wren]

also alanahope

[sour musk]

Does anyone know a motherboard that supports 2933 speed ram for intel lga 1151 that is around 80-90 dollars?

[desert drift]

Oh... yes!!!!

[willow wren]

wifi 6 or wifi 5

wifi 6 is quite a bit faster but is a bit more pricey

[desert drift]

I tried looking up the Sg-G over a BBQ so see what it was and got BQ command tools and BBQ Sauce

[willow wren]

yum

[sour musk]

Does anyone know a motherboard that supports 2933 speed ram for intel lga 1151 that is around 80-90 dollars?

[desert drift]

found it. that works too

[sour musk]

Pop NVM my cpu doesn't support 3000mhz ram SMH

[willow wren]

uh alanahope

[hollow thorn]

Lol, @desert drift it's the EVGA BQ power supply, it's just a meh budget power supply, you can usually get better for it's price.

[willow wren]

for mobo u could go Asus PRIME B550M-A (WI-FI) Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

[hollow thorn]

Also, I'm honestly pretty confused on why they didn't bother to include SG-G alongside GP-G on the tier list, it's the same platform, as according to the guy who actually made the tier list

[desert drift]

great question. I could get away with just ethernet actually

[willow wren]

oo

[hollow thorn]

As a side note, wifi 6 (802.11ax) gives you virtually no benefits over wifi 5 (802.11ac) if you don't saturate the bandwidth of wifi 5 (802.11ac).

[willow wren]

^

[desert drift]

Thank you, you got me also now looking at Corair. nice!

[hollow thorn]

For example, if you have 50mbps download, it's going to make no difference if your wifi bandwidth is around 1300mbps (Wifi 5/802.11ac), or if your bandwidth is ~5000mbps (Wifi 6/802.11ax)

@desert drift Here's the tier list I was referring to, you can use this to get a sense of relative quality of the PSU from this
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[desert drift]

Thank you and great pricepoint, if you were talking to me. Good for Razen?

[willow wren]

razen?

[hollow thorn]

Ryzen I assume

As a side note, B550m-a VRMs might be a bit weak if you're planning on investing on a 3950x with good cooling

[desert drift]

Thank you that is really helpful.

everyone one here is really supporting. This is my first time here and I just want to thank everyone for being so gracious and cool

[desert drift]

which on is this one: B550m-a VRMs

oh the Asus

[limber dragon]

I'd get a asus b550 tuf, the m-a is pretty weak

[willow wren]

oh and alanahope

[desert drift]

looking it up

[willow wren]

im guessing ur using window

windows

[desert drift]

yes sir-eee

[willow wren]

are you fine with going on the gray market and buying windows keys off of ebay

[hollow thorn]

@limber dragon Do you know of any testing on the B550 Aorus elite's VRMs? Seem pretty nice on paper

[desert drift]

that looks good

[hollow thorn]

It's the 6x2 with 50a SiC651 stages with dedicated doubler on v1, same thing but twinned on v2

[desert drift]

lol.. gray, that's a great way to describe ebay. As long as it's legit I suppose

[hollow thorn]

Anyways, I'd second Fitz's suggestion on the B550 tuf if it fits in the budget, good VRMs can be nice for a higher end chip like 3950x

[desert drift]

What graphics card do you think I could get away with

[hollow thorn]

Well, I believe audio editing, as a workload, doesn't really care about graphics card, so any modern card should do.

[willow wren]

rx 580

[hollow thorn]

Eh, not really worth it imo because of how rare they are at a good price even on the used market nowadays

[willow wren]

eh

[limber dragon]

not sure what you mean by v1 and v2, soc and core?

[willow wren]

an msi radeon rx 580 4gb is pretty good for 379$

butt

u could wait for an rtx 3060

[limber dragon]

what kind of drugs are you on, and where can I get them?

[willow wren]

im literally on pc part picker

making a list for them

[hollow thorn]

@limber dragon Sorry, there's 2 different versions of the board with different VRM layouts lol

aorus elite ax v1 and aorus elite ax v2

[limber dragon]

ooohhhh

probably doesnt make a noticeable difference

[hollow thorn]

I need to figure out the differences between the different no-doubler doubling

(single phase and parallel whateveritscalled)

[limber dragon]

It wont make a difference in daily or even xoc use

If you pulled out a scope and probed the voltage, you might see a difference

[desert drift]

MSI Gaming Radeon RX 580 256-bit 4GB GDRR5 DirectX 12 - @limber dragon on Amazon for $299

[limber dragon]

Just get it off ebay

[willow wren]

alanahope

[limber dragon]

Like $100

[willow wren]

the cpu is 3950x right?

[desert drift]

really?

sweet

[limber dragon]

4gb cards cant mine, so they're dirt cheap

[willow wren]

oops wrong links

[desert drift]

It depends on what I can find available. I may go with the 3900x for now and upgrade it again in a year since the 5900x is all sold out. I'm trying to avoiding spending $750 on the processer that is supposed to retailing at $550

[willow wren]

orrr alanahope

u could go all the way and spend 4k on a 3990x 64core cpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7W3nK3 @desert drift

[limber dragon]

why are you even using AS5 in a list?

[willow wren]

is it bad?

wait no

nvm the aio comes with thermal paste

[desert drift]

OMG that's amazing!!!!!!!!!!

[willow wren]

am dumb lmfao

[limber dragon]

also no reason to get an matx mobo

[willow wren]

u can ignore the rx570 and the windows key if ur gonna go the ebay route

[limber dragon]

and dvd read/write if they already have one

[willow wren]

they said they want a cd reader

anyway im gona go to bed

cya

[desert drift]

Thank you Harry!!

[desert drift]

Which one is that?

[limber dragon]

rx 580 4gb on ebay are $80-100

the tuf mobo harry put on the list

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550m-plu/p/N82E16813119315?Item=N82E16813119315 matx
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119313?Item=N82E16813119313 atx
from what I can see just by skimming, you lose 2 sata ports

[desert drift]

What does loosing sata points mean?

[limber dragon]

you cant connect as many hard drives or peripherals that use sata

most cd drives use a sata

[desert drift]

oooohhhhhh That is kinda important. I'd like to eventually have at least 4 SSDs installed if they all fit

[limber dragon]

yeah, then you'd definitely want the atx version

matx being micro-atx

[desert drift]

Also I will have several USB devices to hook up that require being direct to PC. Keyboard, controllers

[nova hornet]

that's why usb hubs exist

[desert drift]

Yeah but in audio, some things only work when plugged in directly to the PC to avoid latency issues

[nova hornet]

how many different things need their own port?

[desert drift]

Ideally 3-4 not including mouse/keyboard

[desert drift]

you mean this one? ASUS ROG Strix Z490-G Gaming (WiFi 6) Z490 LGA 1200 (Intel 10th Gen) SFF Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard (12+2 Power Stages, Intel 2.5 Gb Ethernet, Bluetooth v5.1 and Aura Sync)

will that work with AMD?

[nova hornet]

no, z490 is an intel chipset

if you're using ryzen you probably want a B550 motherboard

[desert drift]

I can't seem to tell if it comes with it or is just compatible

[limber dragon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fitvelkiz/saved/X4gPFT updated the list for stuff I'd recommend

it looked like most of what harry put on was just sort by lowest price and add it, without looking at the price difference to quality parts

[devout moth]

alanahope#6417 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[desert drift]

LOL

[limber dragon]

like coolermaster AIOs are notorious for breaking and leaking in shipping

[desert drift]

Apparanately In my excitement I abused explanation points

[limber dragon]

yeah

[desert drift]

dang, you know your stuff

[limber dragon]

and if you already have a cd reader/writer in your current pc, you dont need to buy a second, just move it over

[desert drift]

I might have one in an old PC if it's still laying around. I will rarely use it. It's for pulling stuff off old old CDs

[limber dragon]

if that's the case, I'd just leave it out, and if you ever need to pull something off a cd, open your case and use it externally

[jagged remnant]

anyone has a recommendation for a lga 1150 socket CPU under 80 dollars price

[limber dragon]

ebay?

no point in buying 1150 new

[jagged remnant]

i bought a xeon e3 1280, its not working

huhuhuhu

im planning for another one

[limber dragon]

you sure? that's 1155

[desert drift]

@limber dragon @willow wren You two are my heroes! I couldn't thank you both enough! ..see that bot? Only ONE ❗

[jagged remnant]

No no its 1150

i checked the intel website also before buying

[desert drift]

Anyone know how to merge this session with my other account? Or do I have to create a new account to save this instance?

[limber dragon]

which version is it?

[limber dragon]

should automatically save it for you

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon E3-1280.html says 1155

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/search.html?_charset_=UTF-8&q=e3-1280 the no version (v1) shows a page not found

1150 would be a v3

[jagged remnant]

Yeah it is v3

I tested with the mobo buzzer, it gave 5 short beeps

Which indicates Processor Failure

[runic vigil]

This has me curious. On my old setup, with the 6600k, I rarely enabled overclocking on that chip so it commonly stats at its base clock at 3.7ghz. But on my R5 5600x, its base clock is reported to be at 3.7ghz, yet according to CPU-Z and the Task Manager, its clock speed can hover above that; going as high as its boost speed at 4.6. How does that happen without me manually setting the multipliers?

[elfin warren]

Auto oc, aka Boost clock.

[runic vigil]

Is it something that can be switched on/off, or is it integrated into the chip?

[elfin warren]

Integrated into the chip. Why would you want it off?

[runic vigil]

I don't, but this is a surprise to me. I'm guessin' the 6600k never had Auto OC, and this feature---is it made for new chips in general, or just AMD chips?

[elfin warren]

Intel has it too. Just newer chips. 6600k didnt have it.

[runic vigil]

Thanks for the answers.

[elfin warren]

Welcome!

[unreal pivot]

thoughts on dark hero vs ______ for a new ryzen 9 build with 3090 strix

[tawny crescent]

hey guys

do u guys know of a low budget cpu

for gaming

[digital falcon]

What happends when i use Ram that goes 1,5v on a zen 3 cpu?

[eager shore]

10100f/3300x/3100

[outer sonnet]

i have a questionn

if i grab a 3300x, 5600xt and 16gb 3600mhz would that be cool enough for streaming?

[eager shore]

it'll stream, but it's not that ideal

[outer sonnet]

oh damn

wellp i guess that is good enough than

pretty sure it is good enough for gmaing

1080

[eager shore]

yeah pretty ideal for 1080p gaming

[limber dragon]

go nvidia if you want to stream

[slow dust]

10400F for $155 ain't too shabby imo

[eager shore]

fr

[pulsar pier]

hi a few questions I think I got wrong motherboard, but with advice from newegg rep (gah),,,, so I got b450 ASUS TUF BOARd, according to asus online table the ryzen 5 3600 is supported, but that ryzen is 3rd gen, and the motherboard I got from advice from newegg only goes to 2nd gen, confused looking for help :)_))heh

ty

[limber dragon]

just need to update the bios

[elfin warren]

Shouldn't need to

[pulsar pier]

HM forgot about that,,

OH

[elfin warren]

They've been shipping with the right BIOS for a while now

Should be plug and play

[pulsar pier]

ahhhhh good news then....Yaaah

[limber dragon]

if its not working out of the box, I'd assume it needs an update

[pulsar pier]

ty vintage

[elfin warren]

They haven't even tried yet lol

[limber dragon]

oh 🤦

[pulsar pier]

if it does, simple as booting into bios and updating ?

[elfin warren]

S'all good lol

Shouldn't need to update BIOS if it just works

[pulsar pier]

yes

[elfin warren]

If you have issues with RAM XMP/DOCP then update

[pulsar pier]

alright ty everyone ;0-0

k

[elfin warren]

BIOS also contains memory compatibility updates

[pulsar pier]

ahhh nice

[elfin warren]

If in doubt, you can always check the CPU compatibility list from the motherboard manufacturer

All of them have a list of supported CPU's

[pulsar pier]

ya I did hence initial confusion,,I buiild my own, but a bit 'rusty' obviusly ;))

anyway ty

[pale mist]

omgomgomg

I got a 5600x

FINALLY

i want to thank my parents

and my dealer of drugs for this accomplishment

[runic vigil]

'grats.

I was hopin' I'd get lucky the third time. Won the lottery for the 5800x, which I didn't buy, and then I won one for the 5600x, which I did buy. But I got snake eyes on either of the two 3070 cards in a recent lottery.

Also, I'm a regular now?

[elfin warren]

Time

SPend time in the server = get XP

[runic vigil]

I've only been in this server for a couple days.

[rocky beacon]

epic

[grizzled bloom]

Me too lol

[wraith trench]

A few days overall here, so semi me thrice LOL

[dusk trail]

Is that normal

Cus if it was my pc would b flying

[lone oar]

wtf

It would be louder than standing next to a plane taking off

[sour musk]

poop

[dusk trail]

Ye idk how to fix it plus setting a fan curve doesn't do anything

[wraith trench]

Do you really that consistently between boots ??

.............see

whatever the app is you're using, are you sure its compat ?

[sour musk]

Is the msi mag b365m worth my 80 dollars?

[dusk trail]

Everytime I boot into bios yes the numbers are all crazy like that, I use lian li l connect for the exhaust case fans, and then the bios for the 3 intake ones

[wraith trench]

weird

[elfin warren]

Are you using 3 pin fans?

[grizzled bloom]

Bios reset?

[elfin warren]

I've seen that before where 3 pin fans were used that didn't have PWM feedback

Need to change the fan headers to DC mode

[grizzled bloom]

Even the built in chipset fan?

[elfin warren]

Hmmmmm

Missed that lol

BIOS update issue?

[dusk trail]

Using all pwm 4 pin fans on stock bios, the chipset fan spins as it should other then that the other fans don't show any change

maybe resetting the cmos would welp

[elfin warren]

Might

Might be worth a BIOS update also

A CMOS reset just makes all the settings you've changed in the BIOS back to default

Doesn't change the firmware at all. You can try it, if it doens't work I'd update it

[dusk trail]

Yep reset didn't do anything, I guess update time

[elfin warren]

I'd try it yeah

[dusk trail]

Updated and its the same

Like the sensors arnt working at all

[elfin warren]

SO what happens if you disconnect the hub?

Curious to see if that's affecting the readout

Hmmmm, your temps also aren't reportin

I wonder if it's defective???

[dusk trail]

Like disconnect all the fans?

[tawny crescent]

guys witch one of these is the best?

10100f/3300x/3100

[hollow thorn]

depends

if you splurge on a mobo for 10100f, it edges out 3300x slightly, otherwise, if you use 10100f with 2666mhz ram, 3300x will beat it, and 3100 will be on par.

[uncut cave]

Guys will thee amd a8 6410 apu work with gtx 760 i saw it has only 9 % cpu bottlneck

[elfin warren]

That's a Laptop processor?

And the GPU is for desktop so no, it won't work

[rocky beacon]

Don't use bottleneck calculator

[elfin warren]

100% this, it's garbage

[rocky beacon]

Yuup

[elfin warren]

Regardless of that, that's a mobile CPU. no desktop version I can find

[rocky beacon]

Unless they are using some form of external GPU enclosure somehow

[elfin warren]

WIth an APU that old, I highly doubt the machine would have the Thunderbolt necessary for that

[rocky beacon]

I am talking about m.2 riser or something similar but I doubt it has it

[elfin warren]

Yeah, highly doubt a 7 year old lappy has m.2

[split copper]

It would be mini pcie if it had any pcie

[uncut cave]

Well my pc has the same cpu and its a tower not a laptop

[elfin warren]

What tower?

[uncut cave]

Hp405g2

[elfin warren]

Yeah, microtower

They use laptop parts in those

[uncut cave]

Well is there any hope

For gfx card

[elfin warren]

Depends on power supply

Kinda doubt

[uncut cave]

Ok

[elfin warren]

Can't find a wattage listed

Most microtowers like that only have a 250 watt PSU

[uncut cave]

Not problem cause i am gonna upgrade

It

Cause its old as hell

[elfin warren]

not much there to upgrade other than a whole new machine

[uncut cave]

Ok

[rocky beacon]

You could put a GPU without PCIe power plugs in it

It might work

[uncut cave]

The psu is not the problem

[rocky beacon]

But many of those old HP towers dont work with dedicated GPUs

[elfin warren]

Yup

[uncut cave]

Its the cpu bottlneck

That i am tryna figure out

[elfin warren]

Cpu is hard soldered

Can't upgrade

From what I see

[uncut cave]

Yea

Well i think there is no hope for a gpu

Maybe upgrade some ram

To help the apu

Thats my only option

[elfin warren]

I mean, i'm not really sure it's even worth investing ram into

It's a good work PC, like, school stuff

[uncut cave]

Yea

It kinda sucks there is no upgrade path to takee

Unless to buy a new one

[elfin warren]

Pretty much yeah

Or get a decent second hand tower

that has a GPU in it

[willow wren]

will my intel Pentium 1 bottleneck my 3090

[elfin warren]

bad troll is bad

[willow wren]

what

[hollow thorn]

Well, if you're mining, no

[grizzled bloom]

A lot of those A8s hard limit your RAM
Yours is limited to DDR3L 1866, which isn't terrible, but it's also single channel.

[stark ore]

is it wise to mix ram? I know it can be very bad sometimes. I have two sticks of 8gb coming in and I was wondering if I should add it to my two 4gb sticks

[split copper]

Not wise

[elfin warren]

Depends on speeds

and timings

[split copper]

But nobody will stop you

[elfin warren]

RAm will always run at the slowest speed and timings of the set

[split copper]

Not even the fbi

[stark ore]

fbi

they cannot stop me

[split copper]

Speed

[stark ore]

taking out the old ram it is

and eating it

[grizzled bloom]

It's called a chip for a reason, right?

[stark ore]

yessss

[elfin warren]

20% improvement

is that worth the $450 to you?

[stark ore]

absolutely

[sharp rock]

^

[spark spade]

So besides Samsung and Western Digital... what are some other slightly cheaper but compatible ssd brands?

[grizzled bloom]

M.2 or sata?
I like my HP EX950 M.2 drive, great price/performance

The 5800 would certainly be the better chip. It really comes down to if the price difference is worth it to you.

[void jolt]

SK Hynix

Uhhhh Intel

There’s others

I think

[spark spade]

Are they worth it and comparable?

[void jolt]

I mean yeah

We recommend the Team MP34 here all the time

Great price - perf

[spark spade]

Im a big Samsung guy, so I know the quality is there with the name for the most part. But at the same moment you're paying for the name.

[void jolt]

True

[spark spade]

I'm a newb in alot of this aspects

[void jolt]

970 Evo Plus was best price to performance until corona and tariff BS

[spark spade]

Tour recommendation, is it in 2T?

[void jolt]

Yeah

I assume you mean 2 tb

[spark spade]

Can you link it to me?

Yes

[void jolt]

One sec

[spark spade]

Again very tired lol but up gaming

And ty

[void jolt]

Wait

M.2 or 2.5”

[spark spade]

M.2

[tulip flint]

Hey guys I have a memory question, I currently have this set of 3200mhz c16 ram

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232482?Item=N82E16820232482

I'm getting ready to switch to a 5800x cpu, and I'm wondering if that ram is still good enough for it

[void jolt]

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-Solid-State-Drive-TM8FP4001T0C101/dp/B08GM984PF/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Team%2Bmp34%2B2tb&qid=1612923491&sr=8-1&th=1

[tulip flint]

or if it's worth the $300 to upgrade to a 3600mhz kit

[spark spade]

From what I've learned so far that for most applications 32 gig is all you'll need.

[tulip flint]

oh I'm happy with the 32 gigs, it's the speed that I'm not sure about

[void jolt]

If you can sell your current kit then try and get 3800mhz or something

[spark spade]

And the 3600 vs 3200 comes down to latency for the most part

[void jolt]

Otherwise not worth

[void jolt]

At same latency is generally the consensus here

[spark spade]

Ahhhh why are 2TB m.2 so expensive lol

[tulip flint]

if I get a new set I'll probably be giving my current one away to my friend that I'm giving my old motherboard and cpu to

[void jolt]

Because it’s 2 terabytes of solid state storage

[tulip flint]

wait why are the timings worse on trident z neo than on trident z rgb

neo is 16-19-19-39, rgb is 16-18-18-38

[void jolt]

It’s only a nanosecond in each category

Is it really that bad?

[tulip flint]

it's not... just strange

[void jolt]

Fair

[tulip flint]

considering that neo is meant for amd that is supposed to like faster ram

[void jolt]

Neo is generally cheaper as well

[elfin warren]

marketing

The whole INTEL and AMD ram is nothing but marketing

[void jolt]

Ryzen likes speed more though

Benefits more

[tulip flint]

alright cool, I guess I'll just stick with my current ram for now

[void jolt]

If you are willing to spend $300, get a 4x8 kit in 3800mhz CL16

For a Zen3 CPU

[tulip flint]

that goes assuming I can find it in stock too...

[spark spade]

Is the 2tb necessary? Would 1tb suffice?

For gaming

[void jolt]

Yes

100%

Just get a 2tb WD Blue HDD or something

[spark spade]

I do plan on video editing too for streaming /YouTube

[tulip flint]

that really depends on how many games you want to have installed at once

[spark spade]

But not making like an image movie

[void jolt]

4tb WD Blue HDD then

[spark spade]

@void jolt is that m.2

[void jolt]

It’s an HDD

The first D stands for disk

[spark spade]

Ah I'm looking for the chip

The speed is nice lol

[tulip flint]

I think what sara is saying is buy the 1TB m.2 SSD, then get a 4TB HDD as well for storage

so you have the fast SSD for games, and a normal HDD for storage of things you don't need instant access to

[void jolt]

^

[spark spade]

Ahhhhhhh

I see I see

That's not a bad idea

Samsung has a few nice sata drives that are small in size.

[void jolt]

Almost all sata drives are 2.5”

Some of the higher quality ones are M.2

NVMe is where it’s at though

[tulip flint]

personally I have a 1TB nvme SSD for all my main games, then a 1TB 2.5" sata SSD for games that I don't play as much, then a 6TB SSD for all other storage

[void jolt]

I just have 8tb in NVMe space

Thanks Sabrent

Oh that’s another good one

[spark spade]

NVMe?

[void jolt]

Fast

In essence

You don’t really need to know more than that

[spark spade]

Lol

Hmm, so I'm gonna stick with a 1tb evo 970 cause I can afford it, then add more later on down the road.

[void jolt]

Good idea

You can always get another massive M.2 ssd from sabrent

They make them up to 8tb

Expensive as all hell though

[spark spade]

Yeah I have money but iffy on what I want to spend it on lol

[void jolt]

I doubt you just have a grand for every terabyte in that SSD lying around

[spark spade]

This was my original build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dmz3vf

Amd a few people said it was overkill

[void jolt]

It’s not if you are willing to spend that

3900x good

But 5900x better

[tulip flint]

overkill for what?

[spark spade]

Yeah but 5900 is double the price

Lol

[tulip flint]

5900x retail is $550

you can also get a 5800x for $450

[void jolt]

It’s also the best you can buy for gaming

[spark spade]

Wait really...

[tulip flint]

yes

[spark spade]

Hold on lol

[void jolt]

Even better than 5950x, believe it or not

The 5900x

[tulip flint]

you'll have to either catch it in stock or enter the newegg shuffle to buy it at retail though

I just ordered a 5800x from the shuffle on Monday, kinda getting buyers remorse though, gonna keep trying to enter for a 5900x

[void jolt]

Make sure you have a good cooler for that thing

Gets hot as all hell

[tulip flint]

it'll be in a custom water loop

[void jolt]

Some sort of architecture flaw

[void jolt]

Alright good

[tulip flint]

so for that pcpartpicker list, I personally prefer asus motherboards, and evga GPUs

[spark spade]

Wait

[tulip flint]

however with the current state of GPU pricing, you might just have to get what you can find

[spark spade]

It's yelling at me for the 5900

[void jolt]

The mobo you have listed has flashback, don’t worry

[spark spade]

Flashback?

[void jolt]

Means you can flash a bios update without a cpu

[spark spade]

Ok so if I can get a 5900 got for it, otherwise the the 3700 will work

[void jolt]

Yep

If you are willing to pay

[tulip flint]

I would advise against a 3700 unless you're getting a great deal on it

[spark spade]

Sorry the 3900

[tulip flint]

same with 3900

[void jolt]

?

[tulip flint]

zen 3 just outperforms zen 2

if he's building a gaming PC I'd get a 5600x before a 3700 or 3900, but that's also if he can find them at retail price

[spark spade]

So core count has nothing to do with it?

[tulip flint]

core count isn't everything

[void jolt]

It does

But you don’t need more than 6 for just gaming these days

I like to stay a step ahead of the curve tho, so I have 8 cores

[mild jackal]

Depends on the games you play and what card you're using

[void jolt]

In general on a well balanced system

No more than 6 is needed

4 is the bare minimum

[spark spade]

So the 9 x3900 with 12 cores isn't good?

Lol

[tulip flint]

it's good, but it's zen2 architecture, which is older than zen3 you find in the 5000 series

don't get me wrong, it's not a bad CPU, just at this point it's been surpassed, and I don't think it's worth the $470 price tag that the pcpartpicker is showing for it

especially for a primarily gaming system

[spark spade]

So a you're saying go 5 5000 not a 9 due to it being a generation behind

[void jolt]

R9 3900 > R5 5600x

R7 5800x > R9 3900x

R9 5900x > all

[spark spade]

Ok I see, ty for explaining. Again I'm a noob to thoa

This*

[pale mist]

wait

i should mention that the 5600x has a much higher clock speed

[void jolt]

Clock speed isn’t everything

See: RX 5700 XT vs 2080Ti

[pale mist]

it might be worse for number crunching but gameing it will be better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij6UxKtdU14

[void jolt]

Depends on the game

[pale mist]

true

but 30+ more is really nice

[void jolt]

More modern games ( coughs in Cyberunk ) all but require at least 8 cores, if not more

[pale mist]

i can play cyberpunk on a 9 year old xeon easy

[void jolt]

We’ll see

[pale mist]

im seeing right now

your not wrong

that more cores will be better later down the lane

but not super near future

[reef crown]

im sure it's been answered before, but search didnt pull up anything useful. is there a winner to the amd vs intel debate for UE4 development?

[pale mist]

intel is better for strictly gmaeing

amd is better for work

[void jolt]

Most likely AMD, as the higher core counts and multi core performance will do much better for workstation stuff

[reef crown]

ok, thats what i was thinking, just needed that extra push

[void jolt]

Make sure you get some with with lots of cores

A 5900x maybe

To maximize efficiency

[ruby laurel]

depends if ue4 is single core or not

single core probs intel, multi might be amd

[grizzled bloom]

UE4 is a single main thread and several secondary threads as needed, so primarily single core

[shrewd hill]

is it worth buying open box for the mobo?

[mortal saffron]

i dont think so

[regal tendon]

One thing ue4 loves threads for is lighting

[void jolt]

Yes

It is

[spare geyser]

Hey guys what’s better crosshair formula or hero my cousin be as wondering

[void jolt]

Asus

[spare geyser]

Yah

[void jolt]

Hero I think

[spare geyser]

Ok

Thx

Wait

@void jolt is dark hero better than both of those

[void jolt]

That’s MSI right?

[hollow thorn]

Dark hero is asus

[spare geyser]

No asus

[hollow thorn]

It's just the hero, except with better stages

and pre-updated bios

[spare geyser]

What’s pre

Updated

So I do t have to update the bios???

@hollow thorn

[void jolt]

No

It’s already updated

[hollow thorn]

It's supposed to be zen 3 ready

out of box

no need for bios flashing

[spare geyser]

I have 5000

Series

So will I have to

??

[void jolt]

[spare geyser]

@hollow thorn also than what’s better dark hero or asus rog strix x570 gaming e

[void jolt]

The bios comes pre-flashed

As in already updated

[spare geyser]

Ok

[hollow thorn]

dark hero

ofc

but price is somewhat silly

[spare geyser]

Ok thx

[void jolt]

Def dark hero in this case

[spare geyser]

Yah

Thx

Wait last thing @hollow thorn does it have wireless

Is it only Ethernet

[hollow thorn]

yea it has wifi

ax200

[spare geyser]

So how does that work I am New so can u help out?

[hollow thorn]

Intel ax200 is the name of the wifi chip

good chip

[spare geyser]

So what do I do to use it

[void jolt]

Go into windows and connect to WiFi

[hollow thorn]

You can just use it

no real need for setup

[spare geyser]

Ok

Thx guys

[runic vigil]

I'm feeling very privy to ask for a replacement for my Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC.

My bluetooth has been fragged up, and I want a motherboard that's fully operation.

[ruby laurel]

get a good board and a pcie wifi card

ez

[void jolt]

That wasn’t the question but I agree

Better signal that way

Faster speeds

[runic vigil]

Okay, scratch everything. I powered off the Power Supply Unit, turned it back on after 30 seconds, loaded optimized settings in BIOS and BOOM...the bluetooth is back.

[void jolt]

Good

[runic vigil]

And the solution is the equivalent of plugging in and plugging out the wi-fi router.

This is uncanny.

[pastel hornet]

Rtx 3080 and a R9 3900x
Do I have the wrong idea?

There are so many CPU’s

Streaming and playing at 1440

[magic cedar]

maybe not last gen

[pastel hornet]

I’m sorry I meant 5900x

See I get myself all confused

[runic vigil]

I'm curious, how can an integrated Bluetooth simply disappear? I thank this forum for giving a solution, but I'm still a tad baffled that it happened in the first place.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabytegaming/comments/fq44fj/bluetooth_stopped_working_in_my_b450_pro_wifi/

[vivid lynx]

Regret my mob choice

Got a b550m-a got bad advice getting micro atx

[rocky beacon]

Good mATX boards exist

There is no problem with the form factor itself

[vivid lynx]

Got an Asus one just doesn't have the expansion I want

[upper aspen]

are 115x standoff standoffs compatible with LGA 1200

[elfin warren]

Yes

[upper aspen]

thx

[lost pine]

check this for me please

i7-9700K with Corsair DDR4 2x8 gb 3600MHZ

[elfin warren]

Dependson your motherboard more than the CPU

[lost pine]

oh ok this is my motherboard

MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

[elfin warren]

Ye, should be fine

[lost pine]

oh ok ty

[naive pendant]

My budget is $1k, and at micro center each are at $300: i7 10700k, i9-9900k, Ryzen 7 3700x, Ryzen 5600x, which is better for gaming?

[elfin warren]

For gaming? 5600x

[glass plank]

i agree

[boreal tundra]

r5

[elfin warren]

Multicore the 10700k pulls ahead but games abuse mostly just 1-2 cores

[glass plank]

yeah most games really dont use more than two and ryzen pulls ahead in single core

[naive pendant]

Got it, thank you!

[void jolt]

5600x

Oh wait

Everyone said that already

[lost cliff]

Hi everyone.

I have a question and hoping someone here can help as I have run out of avenues to go down. A CSM from newegg support sent me here.

How do you update the bios on this motherboard? It is a Gigabyte MB but the model number has a tacked on Y1 at the end so the gigabyte updater won't work with it and Gigabyte themselves told me that since ABS decided to tack on that Y1 at the end that I have to get the bios from them, but the ABS site just leads to newegg. I am very confused. Gigabyte b460m ds3h ac-y1

[elfin warren]

Can I ask why you need to update the BIOS?

[lost cliff]

Because it is out of date?

[elfin warren]

Which one is it? Typically you only update the BIOS if you have issues with memory compatibility, etc

BIOS doesn't normally need updating like Drivers do

Only for new hardware support like a new CPU or something

[lost cliff]

The current Bios is from 4/13/2020 and I believe the current bios for the board without the Y1 tag is F5b or similar

F1 is the one I have

And tbh, whether it is needed or not, I should still have the ability to update it if I wish.

[elfin warren]

Well, the BIOS will have to come from ABS since it's their "custom" motherboard. I have read about people trying to force the regular Gigabyte BIOS but it bricked the motherboard.

You'll need to contact ABS support and request an update.

[lost cliff]

ABS website leads me to Newegg website, which lead me to here.

[elfin warren]

-_-

Well, if they can't supply a BIOS there's nothing you can do. The same situation exists with iBuyPower. The good news is that a BIOS update provides no performance increases so you aren't missing out on anything.

[lost cliff]

Ah ok, so the endless run around. Thanks for trying though 👍

[elfin warren]

Yeah, I've read some information on it from Reddit with people with the same issue

iBuyPower uses the same board. They haven't had any luck either

I 100% wouldn't sweat it because the BIOS update doesn't do anything for you.

[green stirrup]

so uh, my motherboard has been randomly clearing its bios by itself for absolutley no reason like every other time i turn it on its reset the bios. And then sometimes at night it will turn itsleft on. Is it shorted? It still works and i still get the same performance from it but its like hella annoying to wake up bc of a bright ass monitor and rgb lmao its a b450 tomahawk with a r7 2700. when i was redoing the thermal paste a little alchohol got onto the socket, but i let it air dry and it boot right up abt 12 hours later. this was 3 days ago and its been doing that crap ever since. yes it was 70% drugstore alchohol yes i should know better but im a dumbass

[limber dragon]

if you have a spare cr 2032 battery, try swapping it out

[green stirrup]

I dont, i could prollly pick one up at walgreens or cvs right?

[green stirrup]

but would that cause it to turn itslef on?

[limber dragon]

"randomly clearing its bios by itself for absolutley no reason like every other time i turn it on its reset the bios." sounds like dead cmos battery

[green stirrup]

Yea, but it also like turns on for no reason like 1am 3 or 4 hours after i shut it off it just turned on, and then i turned it off and another hour or so later it happened again so i unplugged it

would a cmos batt do that?

[elfin warren]

Turning itself on? No

Make sure that "Wake on Lan" is turned OFF in the BIOS

Bios clearing itself is def a dead battery though

[green stirrup]

alright gotcha thanks yall

[median talon]

Does the 5800x run hot, ive seen people saying it does?

[elfin warren]

Depends on the cooler you get for it

It'll pull 130 watts

So get a good one

[median talon]

Oh yeah I have seen people say it idles pretty high

[elfin warren]

That also depends on their settings

And whether using AMD Ryzen Power Plan, etc

[median talon]

Okay thanks

[limber dragon]

5800x, pbo manual limits on a custom loop

https://tenor.com/view/donut-media-james-pumphrey-lightning-gif-13943752

[nova hornet]

jinkies scoob, surprised it runs that hot compared to my 3700X

[limber dragon]

you also arent dumping 190w into a 3700x

[nova hornet]

monka freakin' S lol

[limber dragon]

pbo on zen3 is purely "lets boost until we hit 90c"

[nova hornet]

gotcha lmao

I'm also just running pbo

[limber dragon]

95% of the time, that's the best option

you get the 1% of chips where manual is better, and 4% where stock boosting is better than pbo's boosting

[grizzled bloom]

I must have landed in that 4% because for some reason my 5800X is boosting all cores to 4.85 at stock settings

[misty obsidian]

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232969

is there a better memory kit than that out there for 4x8

(I don't care about the heatsink, it's sitting under a giant air cooler)

[rocky beacon]

You don't really need 4000MHz

That's alot just for 32GB

[grizzled bloom]

Depends on the processor whether 4000 is worth it. If it's a Ryzen 5000 you can get that speed and try to get your fclk to 2000 for a good boost.

[rocky beacon]

Not worth it for that price at all though

my 32GB kit of Ballistix Elite which was $160 can hit 4000MHz

[hardy moon]

160 for 32 gb is really cheap for ram now a days

[grizzled bloom]

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C18D-32GVK https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374107?Item=N82E16820374107&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-374-107-_-02112021

[rocky beacon]

I know

Why the hell is 4x8 $400

[grizzled bloom]

🤷‍♂️

[elfin warren]

Because 4000 mhz

That's why lol

[misty obsidian]

it's the best binned samsung b-die memory kit

that kit @grizzled bloom linked in a peasant grade cl18 kit

the 460$ kit I linked is a pc master race cl15 kit

[rocky beacon]

No memory kit is "the best"

[misty obsidian]

it's a better bin for sure

I'm asking if there's a better one up above, you are answering a different question

[mild jackal]

It's a better bin

[atomic fiber]

guys what ram models are popular for 5900x 32gb

[hollow thorn]

Why would you want popular

[warped scroll]

Do you guys know if this motherboard would work for a stock i7-2600K? just wondering because VRMs seem teeny https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-DQ67EP-G12529-309-Mini-ITX-LGA1155-Socket-H2-Dual-DDR3-1066-1333-Board/284161187419?epid=22043867062&hash=item4229539e5b:g:yqcAAOSwLGpgD7CA

[hollow thorn]

When you can get good

@atomic fiber just grab a 2x16gb kit of crucial ballistix 3600 cl16

Should be ~160$ still on b&h or somewhere else

[warped scroll]

agh, it looks like a 2600K actually isnt even on the CPU support list for this board

[elfin warren]

They only list the 2600

So, it'll work but no overclocking

[warped scroll]

on the cpu support list 2600k isnt supported

ugh im having so much trouble finding a replacement motherboard for this that isnt $80+

all the ones im looking at dont have mini PCIe for WiFi, which i really need, im not sure how else id get a moderately stable WiFi connection, cause USB is never stable for me

[hollow thorn]

Sad, won't be finding any m.2 key e either

[warped scroll]

The board I have now is a Zotac one with a USB 3.0 header and built in WiFi, its so great, but of course, knowing my luck, i get the one out of 30 that has a defective PCIe slot, and i need it

it was such a good deal too im so angry

what slot is this

[hollow thorn]

On mobile, gonna make a guess it's some storage protocol thing, like pata or sas

[magic cedar]

zotac board??

[warped scroll]

zotac board.

[magic cedar]

whatt

thats weird lol

[warped scroll]

zotac used to make mobos

they might still for their prebuilts

It was the H77ITX-A-E

absolute chad of a motherboard

USB 3.0, WiFi, decent enough VRMs to support a stock 2600k

even had a spare mSATA slot on the top for another thing if you wanted

argh

[magic cedar]

what

is

that

ew

[kind hearth]

Pcie x4 slot

I have one aswell

[warped scroll]

i actually doubt it, its on the edge of a mini itx board, away from the original x16 slot

this is an 1150 board, not 1155, but i was looking at it

you can see it on the right there

[kind hearth]

Which model?

[grizzled bloom]

m-pcie I think it's called

[magic cedar]

mini pcie?

[kind hearth]

Never heard

[warped scroll]

GIGABYTE GA-H81N

its possible that i can just get a 4th gen i5 and then use this 2600k in a flip.

[magic cedar]

2600k...

ill trade you that for a 2600

[kind hearth]

Its mini pcie

Mb lol

[magic cedar]

i want to practice oc

[kind hearth]

Try it on old chips

[magic cedar]

have no old chips capable of oc

i do have a 2600

[kind hearth]

Oof

[magic cedar]

but again

no oc

[kind hearth]

Thats why i still like my 920

No bs 'k'

[warped scroll]

ight got an i5-4690k or sum? 👀

[magic cedar]

uhhhh no

i can give you a normal 2600 tho

for your 2600k

xD

[warped scroll]

awe

[magic cedar]

have no other old chips

actually i might

but not that model

i has athlon

and some random chip that idk what it is

[warped scroll]

yeah ive wanted to overclock too, but 1155 overclockable mobos are expensiveeee

[magic cedar]

hm my mobo might not be able to oc

but there's an oc section in the bios

so probably

[warped scroll]

what mobo is it

@magic cedar

[magic cedar]

uhhhh

i dont remember, but some asrock one

hold up

[warped scroll]

Z68/Z77 Extreme4? 👀

[magic cedar]

uh no

[warped scroll]

aw man

[magic cedar]

its the asrock h61m/u3s3

[warped scroll]

oh

[magic cedar]

or thats what it says on manual

[warped scroll]

yeah no overclock

[magic cedar]

oh sadge

also a asus p5q pro?

[warped scroll]

socket 775?

[magic cedar]

yea

[warped scroll]

what aboutit

[magic cedar]

i have one

in basement

idk what cpu's on it tho

bc theres thermal paste

and i too lazy to remove

[warped scroll]

probably a core 2 duo or core 2 quad

[magic cedar]

mm

[lost pine]

quick question is the i7-7800x reliable or does no one know?

[elfin warren]

What do you mean by reliable?

There are certainly faster, cheaper processors unless you're stuck with the X299 chipset

[lost pine]

ohh ok ok thank you

[lost pine]

idk what i mean by reliable but yk i wanted to know if i should recommed it to my friend

[elfin warren]

Only if they have an x299 chipset. Even then, I'd consider an upgrade to something more modern

Ryzen 3600 is faster than that $500 CPU

[lost pine]

oh okok he is considering 3600 and the i7-9700K

[elfin warren]

9700K faster single core, and only VERY slightly

I'd still go 3600 tho

9700K is end of the road for it's socket

no upgrade path from there while AM4 you could at least have 5000 series

[grizzled bloom]

And possibly 6000 if AMD decides not to change the socket

They only promised up to 5000 on AM4 but that doesn't mean they won't keep it.

[naive pendant]

AM4 is at its limit

[limber dragon]

noodles of my stick 😉

[hollow thorn]

@limber dragon what are those? Can't read the writing on the dies

[limber dragon]

Bdie

Dr 4000c16

[hollow thorn]

Ooo fun

[limber dragon]

Ripjaws dont make contact with half the ICs

[hollow thorn]

Don't quite know how sr to dr affects OCs but that should make for some pretty high clocks

Huh

I thought they'd have thermal pads on the dies tbh

[limber dragon]

Dr givew the performance of sr+ ~300mhz

They do, the heatsink is just bent, and doesn't make contact with the inner 4 chips on each side

[hollow thorn]

Wait, I thought dr gives worse performance because IMC has to work harder?

And alright, would've been a pretty big design flaw for b die if that was intensional

[limber dragon]

Dr can read or write to one rank, while reading or writing to the other as well

[hollow thorn]

Interesting, so the sticks themselves are actually higher performing because of (I believe?) Better on board controller?

[mild jackal]

This assumes you're imc limited

All clocks/timings equal, dr will perform better in many benches, nearly the same in some

[hollow thorn]

I thought most of the time with higher end mem (afterall, 4000c16), you'll run into more of an imc bottleneck

Oh and also the traces on the board, would that be the weak point?

[limber dragon]

35c at 1.5v in occt mem

vs neos at 45+

and neos with half the heat output

[slow rover]

Im looking for a cheaper cpu that I can OC to 5 ghz, im not looking to pair it with a gpu, as its for a server, does anyone have any good ones for cheap? Im looking for 6+ cores and trying to keep it under 200 bucks, i dont care if it uses ddr3, as I mainly just need the cpu clock speed ping me if you know of anything

[rocky beacon]

Why would you need that high of a frequency for a server.

What server applications are you going to be running?

[slow rover]

Minecraft servers

[rocky beacon]

Minecraft servers are not that intensive to the point where OCing is worth it

[slow rover]

I just want something fast yet cheap that has a fast clock speed

[rocky beacon]

Just get a 3600 used or something

[tacit quest]

need suggestions for a H410 and B460 motherboard to pair with an i5 10400F

[west pier]

Quick question if i get the chance to upgrade from a i5 9400f to a ryzen 9 5900x should i take that deal?

[elfin warren]

Heck yes

[west pier]

What if im wating for intel's 11th gen should i still take the R9 5900x

[neon void]

innapropriate

[naive pendant]

what motherboard should i get?

[tawny crescent]

guys do u know of a good amd ryzen motheroard thats not too expensive?

[hollow thorn]

@naive pendant @tawny crescent need more info, what chip, what total budget, what other requirements

[misty obsidian]

is there some way to preorder 5900x on newegg

[elfin warren]

Nope, gotta do the Shuffle

[misty obsidian]

is it available in canada ?

[elfin warren]

Good question, I don't think so

[misty obsidian]

Dear canadians: Please use the old generation of CPU

[rocky beacon]

You cant preorder it in america either

[misty obsidian]

I'll just keep checking stock bots and click fast to get my cpu upgrade then lol

what a strange way to do business

Wonder what's the next increment after that

[tulip flint]

Does newegg even put the 5000 series CPUs, or the new GPUs in normal stock anymore? Or is it only through shuffle?

[magic cedar]

pretty much only through shuffle i think

[elfin warren]

Yes, only the shuffle

[naive pendant]

@hollow thorn 5600x budgets 200

[runic vigil]

So I was cleaning and reapplying the paste into my CPU + heatsink fan, and noticed the paste reached to the edges and sorta touching the base area cornering the lid? Is that a big deal?

[elfin warren]

no

Just clean it off

[runic vigil]

Already have.

But I do wonder about thermal paste touching outside the lid it's been applied.

[elfin warren]

it's fine

[grizzled bloom]

Doesn't matter

[elfin warren]

UNless you're using liquid metal, it's not conductive

[runic vigil]

There's more than one thermal material?

[void jolt]

Yep

Like Diamond

[grizzled bloom]

Graphite has been getting popular

[mild jackal]

Those graphite pads are very conductive

[elfin warren]

The testing I saw with the graphite pads still didn't compare to paste tho

[mild jackal]

Also aren't as reusable as manufacturers claim

[elfin warren]

They're like pure electricity gobblers

[mild jackal]

They requite a ton of mounting pressure

Just buy a sheet of Panasonic pyrolitic graphite sheet from mcmaster or something

[grizzled bloom]

If you change your cooler/CPU frequently they're convenient

[void jolt]

Or just get a plate of pure Diamond

[runic vigil]

I was a tad worried if I applied the paste wrong the first time, because CPU temp's min is 38c, averaging 42c, and can reach 64c at a heavy workload. Hence why I clean it up and start over, but the metrics remain the same. It's the 5600x, for those who don't know.

[grizzled bloom]

For an air cooler? That's fine.

[elfin warren]

Stock cooler?

That's perfectly acceptable

[void jolt]

Dude that’s super low

[runic vigil]

Hyper 212 RGB.

[void jolt]

Oh damn

That on a 212?

[elfin warren]

yeah, that's normal for that too

[runic vigil]

Then I worry over nothing.

[grizzled bloom]

Live and learn

[void jolt]

Correct

[runic vigil]

I probably shouldn't also worry about my fan averaging 1040RPM on quiet mode.

[mild jackal]

That's what mx-4 is for

[elfin warren]

Nah, that's also pretty low

[mild jackal]

Or gd900 for binning

[runic vigil]

When upgrading a build, it's hard to notice a standard.

[mild jackal]

$3 for 30 grams

[ruby laurel]

ive seen some ppl put them in pcs that will be like

untouched for years

[mild jackal]

No pumpout or dryout I guess

[ruby laurel]

meh perf but consistently meh

yeah

like i can see them also being things in servers

tbh

[runic vigil]

What if I'm not changing coolers at all?

[mild jackal]

https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/p/panasonic/pyrolytic-graphite-sheets

[mild jackal]

fine

kek, 180 x 115 mm with 1850 w/mk x-z plane conductivity https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/panasonic-electronic-components/EYG-A121802DM/2781074

for $8

[ruby laurel]

what do u think forks

think we'll see them in more servers?

on large scale

[mild jackal]

I don't see why not

These need 60+ psi though

Most intel server socket specs are 60+ lbs, but large surface area

[runic vigil]

Okay, so my bluetooth was gone again. Tried powering off from the PSU and powering on after 30 seconds and it's back.

There has to be correlation between unplugging the computer, reapplying the CPU/fan, and replugging everything prior to turning the power from the PSU back on that lead to the Bluetooth omission.

I had a Discord pal telling me that may have to do with plugging in USB ports. I DO have a USB splitter plug atop where the wi-fi antennae are.

Antennae is a plural of antenna, right?

[grizzled bloom]

It was the wireless card integrated into the rear IO panel right?
Electrical interference is possible.
And yes I believe it is.

[runic vigil]

That is correct, the wi-fi is integrated into the IO panel.

[grizzled bloom]

I despise integrated cards. Give me something I can swap out if needed.

It sounds like either electrical interference or a bad card

What sucks is if it's a bad card you'd have to RMA the entire board

[runic vigil]

In hindsight, if I know those cards would be trouble, I opted to just buy a non-wifi mobo and also buy a PCI-express wi-fi/bluetooth part.

Well, if it's a bad card, it would've been buggy even on regular use.

Maybe I should place my USB splitter elsewhere.

[grizzled bloom]

Not technically, the bluetooth is separate from the wifi even though it uses the same antennae

[runic vigil]

Regardless, I want to avoid these inferferences.

Which stinks, because that means I can't use any of the four top USB slots.

The ones on the left, btb.

[grizzled bloom]

Or get a PCIe x1 adapter for a mini PCIe wireless card. I salvaged an old mini card from a laptop and it works well enough.

You can use the same antennae in that case too

[runic vigil]

I coooouuuld...but that's extra money I could've save towards more desirable parts.

Is there a reason why the wi-fi connectors aren't applied at the top of the I/O if there's worry over electrical interference?

[grizzled bloom]

If you have an old laptop you can salvage from,
https://www.amazon.com/Fenvi-Express-pcie-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B07H5JJZ88/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=Mpcie+to+Pcie&qid=1613171772&sr=8-12

[runic vigil]

Fraid not. I'd be more comfortable simply buying a PCIe wireless card.

As I had before (my mistake back then is not buying one with integrated bluetooth).

[grizzled bloom]

I don't claim to know anything about why manufacturers do anything. I can see why they'd integrate it to begin with, so there's more room for M.2, but beyond that, 🤷‍♂️

[runic vigil]

Restarting after replugging the USB splitter seem to not affect the bluetooth.

Seems to show potential for issue whenever I flip the power switch in the back.

Curious what's gonna happen once there's an outage.

[hollow thorn]

@naive pendant I'd say something like a B550-f or B550 Aorus elite ax (usually 170usd)

[ruby laurel]

at this point put value on the time youre spending on fixing this

[runic vigil]

I'm not worried about this.

[ruby laurel]

$25 to get rid of the problem

sounds good to me

[keen vortex]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164205?Description=bl2k8g36c16u4bl&cm_re=bl2k8g36c16u4bl-_-20-164-205-_-Product&quicklink=true
i've seen a lot of reviews saying the aRGB control is awful, but i've also been recommended this a lot; should i stick w/ this or go for something else?

[void jolt]

Doesn’t that use iCUE?

Anyways RGB doesn’t matter much

It’s the actual performance that counts

And that RAM has some damn good performance

[limber dragon]

just use crucial's in house rgb

[hollow basin]

anyone know if theres an easy explanation as to why my DRAM frequency randomly gets reset to 1064.5 when I reboot sometimes

instead of 1596 or whatever 3200 is

[naive pendant]

In bios?

[hollow basin]

in cpuz

[naive pendant]

Do you have to set it back in bios?

[hollow thorn]

JEDEC defaults is 2133mhz, so if you reset bios settings at all, that's what it goes to

[hollow basin]

yeah, whenever it happens I go back into bios and mess around with settings trying to get it working again, and eventually it does

but then it doesnt always survive a reboot

like right now. it says 1064.5

[naive pendant]

Cmos battery is dead

If its resetting

[hollow basin]

and now I'll go into the bios and mess around with stuff until it works again

when I go into bios, all the settings are still the same

turned off xmp in bios, saved, rebooted. immediately went back into bios and enabled xmp, saved, rebooted. let it go to windows this time and cpuz says 1596.8 again

I assume the next time I reboot, it will reset to 1064.5 again

this motherboard has been all kinds of problems. Aorus Pro B550m

[limber dragon]

are you trying to ram overclock? If the cpu cant train the ram, it "recovers" to 2133 (1066)

[hollow basin]

nope

its 3200 ram

CORSAIR - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2PK x 16GB) 3.2 GHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Memory Kit - Black

[limber dragon]

sticks in the right slots?

[hollow basin]

yup

its currently working as it should, everything seems good

[limber dragon]

okay good

[hollow basin]

but I know itll reset itself when I reboot

for no reason as far as I can tell

[limber dragon]

might want to just save a profile off with it working, just incase it resets

also might want to see if the cmos battery can be pushed in more, it might have come loose in shipping

[nova hornet]

Get a new cmos battery

Sounds like your cmos is clearing

[limber dragon]

its a b550, battery should be no where near dead

[nova hornet]

Should be, but apparently isn’t

[hollow basin]

I'll take it out and put it back in the next time I'm in there. see if that helps I guess

if the cmos is clearing, wouldn't the bios settings be reset to the defaults when I go in there?

[nova hornet]

yeah, if that's what's happening

[hollow basin]

oh ok. I don't think that's what's happening

[nova ridge]

I am a nub and looking to build a PC trying to pick a motherboard and am trying to wrap my head around it. Z590 Motherboard is what has my attention, going intel

i dont know how to ascertain what is a value.

they all look pretty much the same

[pale mist]

@nova ridge we dont super know yet if the z590 platform will be very good with any new cpus

[nova ridge]

cause so new?

[pale mist]

But any brand worth its salt and a board priced at 200-300 freedom dollars should do you well

[nova ridge]

my cpu will be 10th gen

[pale mist]

Yeah so new the new cpus aren’t even out yet

Ooh

Yeah a z590 will be fine then

[nova ridge]

getting z590 to have an option for uprading later

[pale mist]

You still have that on z490

Better value prop RN

Bc it’s cheaper and intel wont be on lga 1200 for to long anyway so just one future generation of support is fine

[nova ridge]

i thought only 590 will have support for 11th gen?

[pale mist]

No z490 can work I believe

[nova ridge]

kk