#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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humble wasp
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this is my first time

elfin warren
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And get the motherboard model number while you're in there

humble wasp
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how i can send pic here

elfin warren
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Need a few more posts for that

humble wasp
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ok

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i give you the numer

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number

elfin warren
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Yes

humble wasp
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ABA159403048

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if it is this ><

elfin warren
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Mmmm, no

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maybe

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Yeah, that doesn't help unfortunately

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SHould be something like B550m-g4S or something

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Or B450M

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etc

humble wasp
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it isASROCK B460M PRO4S/AC

elfin warren
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YES

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Fastest ram is DDR-2933

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$ sticks

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*4

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You have 6 Sata connectors + 2 M.2 slots

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So a total of of 7 drives

humble wasp
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FOR I5 ?

elfin warren
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Yes

humble wasp
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so i can put to SSD?

elfin warren
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You can have 2 NVME drives

humble wasp
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and RAM 3000?

elfin warren
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And 5 SATA SSD/hard drives

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Yes, DDR4-3000 RAM

humble wasp
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when i check they put only 2666

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they say this is the maximum for i5 core

elfin warren
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Well yeah, you have to pay extra for faster ram

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What processor?

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I5 what, do you know?

humble wasp
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10400F

elfin warren
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Ah

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it is yeah

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Motherboard supports 2933, processor only 2666

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But you can add plenty of drives

humble wasp
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OK

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so if i will buy i can only buy 2666?

elfin warren
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Yes

naive pendant
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^ to add, 2666mt/s is what intel officially supports, although 3200mt/s will likely work, its considered overclocking and not guaranteed

elfin warren
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Nope

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Processor doesn't support more than 2666

naive pendant
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i.e. overclocking

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it depends on the motherboard if it supports xmp etc

pastel monolith
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that motherboard wont go above 2933 and the multiplier on the 10400F is locked so 2666 is about it unless you get a Z board also it could be argued there isnt much difference bewteen 2666 cl14 and 3200 cl16

naive pendant
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which isnt supported on B series boards, that's a mobo limitation not cpu

pastel monolith
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its a combination

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the multiplier is locked on the cpu and the board only supports 2933 that cpu could get 3200 on a Z board

naive pendant
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the memory multiplier isnt locked on the cpu, its locked on the motherboard

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which is why you need z

pastel monolith
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nope

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its locked on the cpu

naive pendant
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that's wrong lol

pastel monolith
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the cpu multiplier

humble wasp
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thank yooou

naive pendant
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cpu multiplier is, i'm not talking about that

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memory isnt the same multiplier

pastel monolith
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but it affects how fast the memory can go....

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hence the cap of 3200

naive pendant
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3200 isnt even a cap, 2666 is the max supported speed by the cpu because of the binning of the IMC on that chip

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although its unlikely to go much faster, might not even hit 3000

pastel monolith
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I mean I guess technically the 10400F could have memory as fast as 3722 but thats the absolute limit unless you can up the cpu multiplier since it directly affects the speed of the ram

naive pendant
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I don't think cpu and memory multiplier are tied together anymore like they were on old cpus that has fsb

pastel monolith
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or do you not agree that the base clock effects both the ram and the cpu speed?

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to a degree that is true its not as tied together as it used to be but the base clock is still used by both

naive pendant
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the base clock yes, but the multipliers are separate

pastel monolith
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no longer on a 1:1 basis like it was

naive pendant
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I was just saying that guy up there could get 3200 ram if he got a different board, it would probably work, but would be considered overclocking and is not guaranteed

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because the only guarantee on that setup is 2666

pastel monolith
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oh well thats true for sure

naive pendant
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and it might not even be worth it, maybe some frametime lows improvements, but that'd be about it

pastel monolith
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I thought you were more blanket saying the cpu speed had no affect on the ram speed what so ever

naive pendant
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well intel usually pairs lower quality imc with the lower quality cpu cores, so in a way they're sold that way on purpose

elfin warren
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The board won't go faster than 2933 anyway

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Even OC

pastel monolith
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yeah I didnt realize he was saying he could get a "z" board

elfin warren
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Well, in this guys situation, new motherboard isn't an option

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he's locked at 2666

pastel monolith
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but like I said earlier some cl14 2666 is pretty comparable to 3200 cl16 anyway

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especially on intel since it doesnt really care about ram speed

tough wyvern
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Does anyone know offhand if there is a way to kindly ask your 5900x to actually throttle down when doing non-stressful tasks? Or is this just a fun quirk of the CPU we have to live with?

humble wasp
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what ram you thinki buy

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think*

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for 2666

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2*8gb

elfin warren
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Ryzen Master, install it. Then use the WIndows Power Profile to tweak the CPU power profile

tough wyvern
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My ostensibly 3.7Ghz CPU is running at 4.98Ghz pretty much constantly in windows, which is pretty great, but I don’t need that for word, so it’s just generating heat for no reason.

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I will try that. thank you @elfin warren

elfin warren
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WOw, 2666 is just as expensive as 3600

humble wasp
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my MB don't accept more

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what i can do ><

humble wasp
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i don't have that much budget

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i just buy this one

elfin warren
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Well, unfortunately, DDR4-2666 isn't any cheaper than faster ram

humble wasp
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i can but higher ram ?

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put*

elfin warren
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You can but it's going to run at the slower speed

humble wasp
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even though it will get 2666

elfin warren
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SO king of a waste

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*kind

humble wasp
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but it will be good for future upgrad

elfin warren
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Well, if $60 is too much, faster ram is more expensive by a tad

humble wasp
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rather to buy 2666 now and then when i upgrade i buy higher

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if same price

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what do you suggest

elfin warren
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Well

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Since you'll have to get a new motherboard and CPU to use faster ram anyway, just get the speed you need

humble wasp
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but i will not upgrade now may be with the next BF

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deals

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such i buy this pc

elfin warren
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My point is, you'll have to upgrade everything anyway, so just get what you neednow

humble wasp
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i am thinking next BF to upgrade my GPU and RAM

elfin warren
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You can't

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Got it

humble wasp
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mmm

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so i have to add MB too

elfin warren
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I mean, in order to use faster ram, you need a new CPU and new motherboard

humble wasp
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also CPU?

elfin warren
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Yes

humble wasp
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oh

tough wyvern
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Annnnd now my CPU is running 12° cooler, thank you vintage 🙂

elfin warren
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CPU is limited to 2666. Motherboard is limited to 2933

humble wasp
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what a waste i but this pc

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buy*

elfin warren
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Not really

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If it does what you need it to, it's not waste

humble wasp
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so if i what to upgrade i have to buy other pc batter than changing hhhh

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want*

elfin warren
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If that PC does what you need it to, it's fine.

humble wasp
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just for playing and youtube and like that

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i can add one more RAM 2666 even it different manufacture?

elfin warren
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If it's just for youtube and stuff

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No need to upgrade anything

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Games maybe

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But probably fine for a while

humble wasp
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ok

humble wasp
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sorry for much Q ><

elfin warren
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Best to not mix ram brands. MOST of the time it will work but sometimes it creates issues

humble wasp
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ok i buy 2 batter

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thank you

elfin warren
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YW

sour musk
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is it worth upgrading a i3 9100f to a ryzen 7 2700x?

elfin warren
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No

ruby laurel
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2nd gen is nice if u have it but 3rd gen is the way to go now

sour musk
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ok

elfin warren
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2700x slower than 9100f TBH

sour musk
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well

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true

ruby laurel
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@elfin warren according to UBM my 2950x is slower than a 9100f

elfin warren
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pfff

ruby laurel
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literal garbage site

sour musk
elfin warren
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I wasn't going off UBM

sour musk
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would the i5 10400f be a good option

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?

elfin warren
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Eh, same same for the most part

sour musk
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it seems the i3 9100f is a beast

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for its price

ruby laurel
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its alr yeah

sour musk
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yeah

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i got mine for 75

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dollars

sacred iris
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Ay Can some one help me figure out a problem with my new cpu

sour musk
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what happened

sacred iris
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Just get a new CPU when I installed it no power went to my pc

sour musk
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psu prob maybe

sacred iris
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How every if I leave the cpu latch like half way down it all powers up

sour musk
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hold on

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im trying to get a techie to help you

sacred iris
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K

devout mothBOT
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Wipeout#9460 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sour musk
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what did you say

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?

sacred iris
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Oof was saying trying to see if I need a new psu or I just messed up

sour musk
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lol

magic cedar
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@sacred iris what's ur problem more specifially?

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you got a new cpu and now ur pc isnt working?

sacred iris
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K just got a new cpu installed it and when the cpu latch is all the way down no power goes to my pc how ever if I leave the latch like half way it sends power

naive pendant
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@sour musk what

sour musk
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@sacred iris needs help

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and i dont know how to help him so.....

naive pendant
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Are all the pins straight

magic cedar
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huh

sacred iris
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Ya I checked that the pins are straight as far as I can tell I see no paste in the socket or on the pins

magic cedar
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how is that even possible

sacred iris
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Idk

magic cedar
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the latch does nothing

naive pendant
magic cedar
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it just holds ur cpu in place

naive pendant
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or like 9400f

sacred iris
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I can send a vid real quick

magic cedar
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doesnt put pressure or anything

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did u insert right way?

naive pendant
sacred iris
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I think so

naive pendant
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It locks the cpu into place

sour musk
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@naive pendant people say the 9700k isnt worth it and ii dont have a oc board

magic cedar
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not much

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it doesnt force anything just lightly presses it down

magic cedar
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but that doesnt make a difference when ur talking about power

reef pivot
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Hi peeps! I am looking into upgrading my gtx 1660 to a 3070, I wanted to know if I should upgrade my ryzen 5 2600, or if it can handle the 3070

sour musk
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hehehe

naive pendant
sacred iris
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I can dm u a vid of it

sour musk
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one sec

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well i have a mobo for 9th gen

magic cedar
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i cant help that much rn sry

sacred iris
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All good

sour musk
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@naive pendant like 200-250

tribal crown
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Heyy so im thinking about upgrading from a gtx 1080 to an rtx 3080 but will my i7 7700k need to be upgraded then also or is it fast enough?

reef pivot
sacred iris
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Ya if my latch is like 1/3 of the way down then it work idk why

reef pivot
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I'm probably gonna try to get a ryzen 7 3700

magic cedar
naive pendant
naive pendant
tribal crown
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what should i atleast have to run a 3080?

naive pendant
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Tbh

tribal crown
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but will the i7 7700k be okay till i get a new cpu?

sour musk
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@naive pendantwell cpu only if intel

naive pendant
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I guess but it will be holding the 3080 back by a lot

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@tribal crown

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Need at least 9700k to get full potential

tribal crown
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yeah its because my brother is building new pc and then i can sell my 1080 to him and get like alot so the 3080 would be at a nice discount and then i would not need to upgrade gpu for a long time....

sour musk
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@tribal crown i wouldnt say alot you could get 200-300

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but i guuess that is alot so .....

tribal crown
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im from dk and he would buy for 2500kr. and the 3080 is going for 6000kr. atm

sour musk
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is the ryzen 5 3600 worse than the i7 9700ks

naive pendant
tribal crown
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i have a ROG STRIX Z270E GAMING mobo

sour musk
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how much worse

naive pendant
tribal crown
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exactly..

sour musk
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should i get a i7 9700f

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my cpu is a i3 9100f

naive pendant
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If you want

sour musk
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would it help me?

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alot?

naive pendant
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9700’s are a NICE price RN

sour musk
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mordhau,rust,maybe fortnite,r6

naive pendant
sour musk
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ye

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i have a trash 8,9th gen mobo

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but

naive pendant
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h310?

sour musk
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no

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b365m ds3h

naive pendant
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b360?

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ah

sour musk
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is it bad

naive pendant
sour musk
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well rx 570

naive pendant
sour musk
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i still have a i3 9100f

naive pendant
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Tbh

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Upgrade GPU first

sour musk
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i upgrading little by little

naive pendant
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i would upgrade cpu first though

sour musk
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yeah

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4c/4t

naive pendant
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any gpu upgrade might cause big bottlenecks

buoyant ivy
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the b550 msi a-pro or the tomahank for a 3700x ? both had a hhuge discount

naive pendant
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Well not wrong since it’s what you would do but it’s a bad idea

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GPU first is better idea

sour musk
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so what should i get for like 200-250

naive pendant
sour musk
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that would be a massive performance

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yeah

tribal crown
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what should i upgrade first to get more frames and stuff i have an i7 7700k and a gtx 1080 i have 16gb 2666mhz ram atm but upgrading to 32gb 3600mhz

naive pendant
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@sour musk though are you going to play the games you metioned or gonna go to AAA titles?

buoyant ivy
sour musk
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would i get less performance with the 1080 because its a massive bottleneck

tribal crown
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what would be a decent upgrade?

naive pendant
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massive bottleneck? i wouldn't say so.

sour musk
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oh

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i thought it would

naive pendant
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plus if you could get a 1080 though for a good deal, would be great

tribal crown
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max 500

naive pendant
pastel monolith
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or a 3070 could see big gains either way depending on game

naive pendant
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^

sour musk
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is the 1070ti about the same as the gtx 1080

tribal crown
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what if i would like to keep my mobo the z270?

naive pendant
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Dependent on scenario

pastel monolith
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then 3070 it is

naive pendant
tribal crown
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ohh...

naive pendant
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7700k is already best cpu for that chipset

tribal crown
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okay...

pastel monolith
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and its still decent

tribal crown
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what about new mobo and cpu for 600 max?

naive pendant
naive pendant
pastel monolith
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and ram...

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oh nvm you said it already had ddr4 right?

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that was one of those could be either cpus wasnt it

sour musk
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is 300 dollars good for a 1070ti

tribal crown
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would a dark rock pro 4 be a good cooler for an i7 10700k?

pastel monolith
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if it was 1/2 price or free sure

tribal crown
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what would be an good cooler then in the black theme

pastel monolith
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Noctua NH-U12(S) or D15(S) chromax.Black

naive pendant
pastel monolith
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the (s) just takes away the 2nd fan

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only need one 2 is nice but ram height permitting

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they are nice looking for noctua

tribal crown
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but is the dark rock good if you dont think price

pastel monolith
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lol yeah

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the noctua cools much better for the cost

tribal crown
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okay nice thanks

sour musk
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is a 150 good for a 1070?

tribal crown
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whats the diffenrence between i7-10700k and the i7-10700kf?

sour musk
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i7 10700kf dosent have integrated graphics

tribal crown
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ohh thanks

sour musk
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and the 10700kf will be a little cheaper

tribal crown
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lmao i just looked it up in DK the k is cheaper

naive pendant
tribal crown
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like 20kr. its 0,somthing dollars

sour musk
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@naive pendant ik

pastel monolith
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just get the cheapest one K or KR

sour musk
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is the i7 8700 good for 150?

naive pendant
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yep

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thats a 6c/12t cpu

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pretty good

sour musk
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is it better than the r5 3600

elfin warren
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SIngle core, yes. Multi core, no

naive pendant
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but still a decent CPU for gaming

naive pendant
cyan plank
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question bois
thinking of getting ryzen 5600x series whenever it is in stock
b550 vs b450?

naive pendant
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550

cyan plank
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y 550

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this is cause theres a b450 on sale for like $170

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and the b550s are like 200+

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is pcie4 really worth the extra

naive pendant
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It’s more than PCIE gen 4

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550 has better vrms and stuff

naive pendant
cyan plank
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between these 2

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o

naive pendant
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Which 2

cyan plank
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cant send links

naive pendant
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Yeah because you are rookie

cyan plank
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msi b450 gaming pro carbon max wifi $170 cdn

naive pendant
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Bad deal

cyan plank
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msi mag b550 tomahawk

naive pendant
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^ better

cyan plank
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$200

naive pendant
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It’s worth it

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@cyan plank

cyan plank
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what about an asus rog strix b450 $130

naive pendant
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Msi mag? More like msi maga amirite

naive pendant
cyan plank
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damn

naive pendant
cyan plank
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now last question before i get too annoying

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do i upgrade in general, rn i got a i5 7600k - z270 a pro

naive pendant
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Depends on what you’re doing

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@cyan plank

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What’s games do you play

mystic orbit
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I'm not too good at this, but I'm thinking of upgrading my MSI B360 Gaming Plus to possibly a MSI Z390 MPG Gaming Edge AC, Is this worth it? A good idea? Is their a better alternative? (CPU: Intel i5-9600k and idk if any other info is needed to give an opinion. I mainly am looking for something to better use my cpu and onboard wifi aswell.)

ruby laurel
river ledge
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Intel cpus are now cheaper then amd 3000

severe walrus
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Was wondering if the ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING has fixed the Ethernet problem or If I will still have to run it at lower speeds to have it work properly

sour musk
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is the 1700 faster than the i3 9100f?

long basalt
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Not by much. Especially in Gaming.

sour musk
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i found one for 40 dollars

long basalt
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Not worth it.

elfin warren
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For what it's going to cost in Motherboard and Ram, not worth it

sour musk
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i have ram

long basalt
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You'd be better served to get a 2600X or 3600 and a B450 (or B550 if you get a 3600) motherboard

elfin warren
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What ram though?

long basalt
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Yeah, but you might not have fast enough RAM

sour musk
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3000 speed

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ddr4

long basalt
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3000 is "enough" for Ryzen, but it really prefers at least 3200Mhz CL16

sour musk
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well

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is it a good deal

long basalt
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My 3600 is a little gimped because I'm running 2933Mhz CL16

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No.

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The R7 1700 is not a good CPU anymore.

elfin warren
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FOr the performance gain over the 9100f, no

long basalt
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Maybe if you were doing like, Video Editing on a budget.

sour musk
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😦

long basalt
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But for Gaming? Not worth it at all.

elfin warren
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Yeah, it would perform the same or worse

sour musk
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ok

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i think ima get a i7 8700

naive pendant
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After forever of shipping i got my Asus prime X299-A II Motherboard

sour musk
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thats nice what cpu u got?

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dang

naive pendant
sour musk
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you mean i7 7800x?

naive pendant
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7800x? poggers
140w tdp chip though

deft inlet
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ow

naive pendant
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Yea I thankfully have an 850w power supply

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Got It in

wet dust
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I’m kinda mad

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I accidentally bought 3600 cas18 ram instead of 16 and now I can’t return it because I just recently realized that

indigo silo
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So I just bought an i7-10700k...WHY DOES IT STILL BOTTLENECK ANY GPU?

elfin warren
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It doesnt

indigo silo
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I sure hope not, but apparently it's 5% bottleneck on the 3080

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Hopefully that's just because them bottleneck calcs aren't 100% accurate

elfin warren
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Where are you getting this bottleneck garbage from?

night kite
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should i buy a used i7-6700 to replace an i5-6400 or should i get a new board and get something cheaper?

naive pendant
mild jackal
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5% isn't a big number...

elfin warren
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Bottlenecking calculators are kinda poo though, yeah?

pale mist
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I have been told so

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But they seem to mostly hold up in my experience

elfin warren
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IMO they are, and are regarded as such

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I mean, you'll never get a perfect match

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I use benchmarks rather than calculators

pale mist
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Yeah, and its kind of an odd scale with many other factors to take in

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The benchmark never lies

sour musk
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is the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F a good mobo if i decide to go ryzen ?

hollow thorn
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Depends on what chip

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2nd gen you're forced to use b450

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3rd gen B550 gets you upgradability

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And pcie 4.0

sour musk
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ok

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so thats a no go

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how about the Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master is it good for oc

warm orbit
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why are cpu prices so up right now

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why is everything so damn expensive

sour musk
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idk

warm orbit
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I'm planning to build my first pc soon and cpus and gpus are just so expensive

sour musk
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well intel is going down

hollow thorn
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wasn't 9700k new 200$ at microcenter

sour musk
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well

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if you live near one

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there you go

hollow thorn
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What you tryna do with it

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95% chance no

hollow kraken
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3600 or 2600x for 1660 super

naive pendant
naive pendant
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did you use bottleneck calculator?

elfin warren
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They did

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Those are spoopy

magic cedar
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bottleneck calc not even accurate

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what does 35% even mean lol

elfin warren
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SOmeone DM me one, I wanna put my system in and see lol

naive pendant
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bottleneck calculator and UBM info is inaccurate af
also depends on the game

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and thats a 2c/4t cpu
so bottlenecking gonna be higher

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but eh

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still depends on the game

magic cedar
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dmed vintage

elfin warren
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Ok, here we go

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It doesn't even ask you what you ram speed or timings are

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This thing spoop

naive pendant
elfin warren
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Ye

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It's just, input CPU/GPU and spit out a number XD

naive pendant
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lol, i calculated my friend build and it gave me 8.85 bottleneck

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while in irl he had like 20-40%

elfin warren
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I really hate the word bottleneck

naive pendant
elfin warren
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People see it and just freak out. Like, your CPU and GPU will always have a slight mismatch, it's fine. Literally. Fine.

naive pendant
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his fx 6300 seriously hurted his system tho

elfin warren
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oh dear lord yes

ruby laurel
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fx 6300 beast

#

used to run pve on one

naive pendant
#

he had a 1050 ti and fx 6300 and it could barely reach 60 fps on stellaris while my desktop with igpu was able to run it way easier

jaunty thunder
#

I bought a Asrock B450m pro 4 this month from newegg. Can anyone tell me what version of Bios will be installed? My understanding is I need this to determine what CPU's are supported. I am considering Athlon 3000g or Ryzen 3 3200G. Will these work?

elfin warren
#

Ryzen 3000 will be fine

#

It's Ryzen 5000 that will need the update

jaunty thunder
#

what about the Athlon?

#

The CPU support list says it needs P3.60

elfin warren
#

That BIOS is from 2019, I just checked

#

You'll be fine

jaunty thunder
#

Do you know what version it will ship with?

elfin warren
#

No, no way to tell really

jaunty thunder
#

k. Thank you

elfin warren
#

But the 3200G is the better processor anyway so I'd shoot for that one

ruby laurel
#

3200g is cute

jaunty thunder
#

yea I agree. But no stock anywhere

elfin warren
#

mmmm

ruby laurel
#

do u like my new name vintage

magic cedar
#

Only 1?

ruby laurel
#

its cause theres a vps reseller that resells 10gbps vps instances

#

i sell 1gbps vps instances

#

and im cheap

magic cedar
ruby laurel
#

dm for vps deals omegaLul

naive pendant
#

or felt like it

#

capped at about 60 frames on all low settings on RUST

#

moved up to the pos i5 9400f i have now its better but cpu is always @ 100%

#

hopefully i got a i5 9600k

wise phoenix
#

Hey guys, I'd like to ask, what are the features in motherboards I should look for? and what are the ones that are just gimmicks or marketing strategies?

#

So far, what I know is VRM

elfin warren
#

VRM is over rated, unless you're overclocking a 5950x/3950x, most motherboard VRM is fine

#

Figure out how many SATA and USB ports you want

#

And processor/ram speed

#

And buy mobo that accomodates

ruby laurel
#

sata ports cringe and unbased

#

nvme slots are what matters keeeeek

wise phoenix
#

I won't be using NVME though, I'll be using SATA SSD, and as for USB, I think I'll be fine with 3 or 4?

#

What else should I look out for if not VRM? and what do you mean by ram speed? Does that mean not all mobo can run the ram speed my ram has?

ruby laurel
#

problem solved

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Some motherboard will only run 2933 but the processor can run 4000, for example

wise phoenix
elfin warren
#

DDR4-4000

wise phoenix
#

Oh okay, so if I have a 3600mhz ram, I should look for mobos that will be able to run up to that speed?

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Processors too

#

For example, 10400K maxes out at 2666 mhz

wise phoenix
#

Oh, didn't know that, so let's say I would like to run my r3 3300x at 4ghz, I should look for a mobo that will be able to support up to that speed?

elfin warren
#

CPU speed =/= to ram speed

wise phoenix
#

Oh okay

#

Other than CPU and RAM speeds, VRM, SATA ports, any other stuffs?

#

Like, features that are gonna be nifty but not really needed

ruby laurel
#

and fr dont use sata

#

sucks

wise phoenix
#

SSD SATA? Why not?

#

May I ask why Sata SSD is not worth the money?

elfin warren
#

It's fine

#

Cheaper than NVME

#

Loading times for OS and Games the same

wise phoenix
#

Oh okay, well that's all I need, I don't need extremely fast loading times

#

Wanna see the loading screen too sometimes

ruby laurel
#

some nvme drives are cheaper than sata ones as well

#

games are gonna need faster storage soon

#

only reason why they havent required super fast storage is because consoles still used laptop 5400rpm drives

#

but now that theyre on ssd i think the faster the better

#

for new games

wise phoenix
#

Ohh okay

ruby laurel
#

like its cheaper but do u rly not want to have 5x the speed for $5 extra?

naive pendant
#

Will the cpu limit the ram’s speed if it can’t use all of it?

wise phoenix
ruby laurel
#

what ssd are u getting?

#

or looking at getting

#

for sata

#

and what country

wise phoenix
#

Samsung 860 evo

#

Philippines

ruby laurel
#

idk what kind of monopoly money currency yall have there

#

but its uhh

#

like 300 more of whatever that is

#

for nvme

#

idk how much that is in real money tho

wise phoenix
#

oh, what I mean is it's not just 5$ in my country, it's like, 20$ or 30$ more

#

It's like living in a country but every computer store is a scalper

ruby laurel
#

lol

sour musk
#

would i get alot of performance increase if i go with the 10400f (i have i3 9100f)

elfin warren
#

not really

sour musk
#

ok

elfin warren
#

Multi core a bit but single core is almost identical

sour musk
#

yeah

#

i still cant find a gpu in my budget (170)

#

like i was looking for a 1070-1070 ti

dusty cliff
#

I got a 3060ti and I'm rebuilding my pc. Thinking 3600 or 3600x for the cpu. Or is there a better choice?

sour musk
#

3700x maybe

#

but for me i would stay with 3600x

naive pendant
#

Whats a good CPU under 230 Canadian dollars

orchid linden
#

Hey if I have a motherboard that came with a I/O shield pre-installed can it be detached?

fallen lynx
#

probably, but why?

sour musk
#

@naive pendant you could get a i5 10400f or a ryzen 5 3600 if lucky

orchid linden
#

A buyer is curious, just wanted to know

elfin warren
#

Typically no

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

Because with a build in I/O shield, it's part of the VRM cooler housing, etc

#

I was talking to HECKYEAHHH

pliant cypress
#

@naive pendant just get an x470/b450 instead

#

unless you plan on upgrading to 3000/5000 series later

naive pendant
#

ok

rose arch
#

i got a ryzen 7 2700x, x470 asus ruf, h100i rgb platinum, rm750 for £140

naive pendant
#

Ryzen 7 3700X, Asus ROG B550-F Gaming (Wi-Fi), 32GB RAM, H100i Pro RGB, MSI RTX 2060 Ventus OC, CX650M, Sabrent Rocket 4 1TB, Lian Li Lancool II, Dell S2417DG

What needs an upgrade?

hollow thorn
#

Gpu

elfin warren
#

RTX 2060

#

XD

naive pendant
#

what after that

elfin warren
#

Oh HEY

#

Nice monitor!!

#

I have one too

naive pendant
#

very bad banding

#

tho

elfin warren
#

Really?

#

I haven't had any issues with mine

hollow thorn
#

Cpu after gpu

elfin warren
#

Ye

hollow thorn
#

Well what speed is the ram at

#

I assume 3600c16?

elfin warren
#

RTX 3080, then maybe 5800x or 5900x

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

Oh

#

Just as fast

#

That's fine

hollow thorn
#

Good

elfin warren
#

Ye

#

3080

hollow thorn
#

I assume OCed?

elfin warren
#

Then, 5800 or 5900x

naive pendant
hollow thorn
#

Gud

elfin warren
#

3200 CL14 gives the same performance as 3600 CL16

hollow thorn
#

Don't let b die go to waste

elfin warren
#

no

naive pendant
naive pendant
elfin warren
#

Mine actually looks really good

hollow thorn
#

Aw, 9/10 times 3200c14 is b die

#

Unlucky

elfin warren
#

Mebbe I got lucky

naive pendant
naive pendant
hollow thorn
#

Oh lol

naive pendant
mild jackal
#

It's 100% b-die

#

3200 cl14

hollow thorn
#

@mild jackal thought it might be the good micron die too?

#

Rev e

mild jackal
#

doubt

hollow thorn
#

Hm ok

mild jackal
#

Unless it's something really new

naive pendant
mild jackal
#

Easy to tell between b-die vs rev.e/rev.b based on trcd and trp

elfin warren
#

Forks

#

It's CL16 clocked to 14

mild jackal
#

3200 cl16 is commonly hynix ya

#

I see that now

elfin warren
#

KK

hollow thorn
#

Tertiary timings scary

naive pendant
# elfin warren KK

can u send me pic of ur monitor's color accuracy and banding thing cuz i might have to rma mine

elfin warren
#

L:emme find a good full screen pic

#

BRB

naive pendant
#

ok thx

elfin warren
#

That's a pic of a pic on my monitor

naive pendant
#

wow you got a rlly good one

#

mine must be defective

elfin warren
#

Yeah, it should look GOOD

#

That's at 165hz with Gsync on if it matters

#

You might try a different cable or port too

naive pendant
#

its like that on all but idk but most of s2417dgs r defective

#

i think

elfin warren
#

Huh

#

Well, I got lucky indeed then, I had no idea!!

#

NO tearing, no issues at all. It's been great

naive pendant
#

@elfin warren i saw banding in dark areas when i was watching the new batman trailer at the 41 sec mark

#

try that

elfin warren
#

On youtube?

naive pendant
#

yes

elfin warren
#

This one?

naive pendant
#

yeah

elfin warren
#

That's a crappy recording and repost lol

#

That's why

#

It's compressed

naive pendant
#

isnt the original one like that too

elfin warren
#

Dunno, this is the original

#

watching now

naive pendant
#

ok

elfin warren
#

Nah, it's fine

naive pendant
#

yeah i guess i just have a bad monitor

pale ledge
#

Not to sure what to do mobo is stuck on 2 standoffs took out all of the screws

white egret
#

Just bought a 5800x on newegg. Not sure if it's still in stock

#

If anyone's looking

wide drift
#

any other intel employees in here? Enjoying our 10900k for $250

#

😄

ruby laurel
#

ssssh dont tell anyone

hidden cobalt
#

Are asrock mobos aight?

cursive epoch
#

Depends on which one

#

The pro4 is pretty decent

#

Steel legend, taichi, all that stuff

quaint fable
#

Does anyone have a Ryzen 7 1st or 2nd gen for sale?

uncut hull
pliant cypress
#

that one there no

#

it should say wifi on front of box

hollow thorn
#

@uncut hull there's 2 versions, one with wifi, one without, and that looks like the version without

#

X570-plus, and X570-plus wifi

uncut hull
#

ahhh i see

#

Ty

livid sparrow
#

Otherwise, good mobo. Just installed one (wifi version) last month, no problems

rotund falcon
#

Hey guys,

I have a quick question about RAM compatibility with the latest Ryzen CPUs (5950X build).

I'm looking to get two 16GB sets rated for 4000MHz. I found a set of G. Skill Trident Z Royal at C17 however Newegg states it's best paired with Z390/Z490. It's an Intel XMP chipset.

Now this is a dumb question, I know, but would these be able to work or do I have to keep searching?

Thank you in advance

naive pendant
#

3733mhz is as far as you should go with ram

#

past that intel scales better

#

But yes it will work with AMD

#

@rotund falcon

brisk kindle
#

Hey, so I'm looking for my EPS cable and not sure what it looks like

#

I'm working on my first build and can't figure out which one it is

#

I have a Gigabyte 750w 80+ Gold and an z390 pro wifi

woven epoch
#

What's a reasonable price to sell a Ryzen 5 1600 ?

steel panther
#

When will the restock for 5600x come? Was it January?

naive pendant
steel panther
#

Oh okay thank you @naive pendant

naive pendant
#

Is the steel legend b550 pairable with a ryzen 9? It looked fine to me but some reviews were saying that the mobo is good for everything except a ryzen 9

naive pendant
#

in general a 5 star 160$ b450-b550 should support and processor on the socket

#

Otherwise its a bad product that shouldn

#

't deserve 5 star

#

Well I mean it is a 160$ board being paired with a 500$ cpu

#

The biggest thing for the reviewers was that the power delivery wasn’t good enough for the r9’s

tidal cairn
#

Hello guys, I want to build a budget pc and i was wondering whether to get a ryzen 3 3100 or a ryzen 5 1600, or if there is an alternative. Could u give me some pointers? Thanks upfront

naive pendant
#

aslong as its not an A320 A520 or a B350 the power phases should be fine for an r9 regardless

#

you would have to be overclocking for it to matter

#

even then a generic 5 star 160$ or higher board will do it

#

Ok ty

hidden rampart
#

Like an A520m Aorus elite can handle a 5950x stock real easily

naive pendant
#

Yeah its an aorus elite

hidden rampart
#

Dosent matter whether it’s an Elite or not

naive pendant
#

i forgot to specify the models that were A320 that also got made into A520s

naive pendant
#

Every single a320 is low qual

hidden rampart
#

I was referring to an a520

naive pendant
#

Read please

devout mothBOT
#
Deckfy#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hidden rampart
#

God

#

I’m not writing that again

severe walrus
#

Quick question about RGB fans and This specific motherboard. If my case is the phanteks p500a with 3 rbg fans and i use an aio (MAG CORELIQUID 360R) with rgb. Am i missing rgb headers?

#

I only see these headers on the discription

#

1 x 3-pin Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header
2 x 4-pin AURA RGB Headers

rotund falcon
#

@naive pendant thank you

severe thicket
#

Yo is it worth getting the 10900k over the 10850k

#

It’s priced at 399 and 499 usd here

tranquil silo
#

no

#

just oc the 10850k

ruby laurel
#

only if u like the prestige of having the higher specced option lol

narrow mortar
#

@severe thicket it is not worth then10850 is like 95% of a 10900k, so 25% more money for 5% more performance....up to you if it's worth it, but it's not from a frame per dollar sense.

ruby laurel
#

jokes aside its not worth it since they oc around the same

ruby laurel
#

which no one who buys a k series cpu should do

narrow mortar
#

@ruby laurel you'd be surprised how many people talk a good game and never actually overclock...

ruby laurel
#

true haha

#

but

#

im saying you prolly should

#

i still need to tune my oc a bit more

#

i was at 5.1 for a while then i went to 4.7

sour musk
elfin warren
#

Used

sour musk
#

oh

elfin warren
#

No accessories, cables etc

sour musk
#

oh

#

well

#

also i got my aio 🙂

elfin warren
#

Nice!

sour musk
#

i never go above 50c 🙂

tribal crown
#

what mobo and cpu would be the best combo for 600 dollars if upgrading from z270 mobo and i7 7700k cpu?

outer epoch
#

I have plans of buying a rtx 3070, but i have a little bit hard to find a cpu matching what i want. :)
I was thinking about a 5600x because it was fine in both programs and games.
But i don't know...
Is it the best to buy or any ideas for around the same price?

elfin warren
#

Probs ram too

#

better speeds

tribal crown
toxic skiff
#

Are you looking for more CPU power or more MOBO stuff?

tribal crown
#

More cpu i want more performance but still a nice looking and good mobo that supports 3600 mhz ram speed

toxic skiff
#

Hmm

#

I would look at getting a 9900 cpu

#

Maybe a 9700

#

Theyre still relatively cheap (~300ish)

#

And you can get a decent mobo for it

fallen lynx
#

rather expensive for a B550

toxic skiff
#

yeah

#

if youre gonna spend that much you might as well get a x570

keen thicket
#

lets go i finally got my mobo

#

im excited to finally get my build started

carmine merlin
#

I have 0 idea how to overclock my ryzen 7 2700

sour musk
#

well gn merry Christmas hope you get what you asked for 🙂

warm path
#

OHHH YEAH!!!!

#

Managed to upgrade my Dell AIO PC

#

Temps are great!

#

It is running a lot cooler than my Pentium G3220T

#

Upgrade was to an i7-4790S

#

@gritty meadow

#

Let me stress it

#

Prime95 temps are maxing out at 69C

#

It actually went to 74C

#

Latest version of Prime95

fresh river
#

are event ID 20 errors while testing ram bad

#

WHEA errors

warm path
#

@fresh river it is not your RAM. It is a CPU related error.

fresh river
#

I cannot imagine or find what issue it could have

warm path
#

Usually this means your CPU is not getting enough voltage or can’t maintain clock speed at that voltage

fresh river
#

so I need to OC the voltage?

warm path
#

Try increasing the voltage

#

Yea

#

Just a little

fresh river
#

I will, thanks

warm path
#

Don’t do huge jump.

fresh river
#

by how much>

warm path
#

Just small increment

#

Report back to me to see if it fixed the error.

fresh river
#

will do

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

how do i start bios from settings again lmao sorry

#

nvm

warm path
#

You got it now?

#

Just restart PC then press delete key or f10 or f12 depending on your pc to enter bios.

fresh river
#

I had to do it from settings cause it boots too fast

warm path
#

Not if you spam button before it boots

fresh river
#

I do lol

#

its easier from settings anyways

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

no errors so far

warm path
#

Did you increase the voltage?

fresh river
#

I took the voltage off auto and put it on override, increased minimum to 1.29 iirc

warm path
#

It was at 1.28?

fresh river
#

it was on auto

warm path
#

Oh

fresh river
#

and it hovered around 1.27 in bios

warm path
#

So you went up 0.02 volts?

fresh river
#

2 whea errors so far, significantly less

#

oh now theres a lot more

#

jesus

warm path
#

Huh

fresh river
#

yeah I did

warm path
#

Ok

#

So did that fix the errors?

fresh river
#

nope still a lot of whea errors lol

#

but a lot less

warm path
#

Then increase voltage a little more

#

Try 1.3 volts

fresh river
#

ill go to 1.31 prolly

#

ok 1.3

warm path
#

1.31 is gonna get hot depending on the chip and cooler

#

What’s your chip?

fresh river
#

5600x

warm path
#

Ok

#

Do you have a good cooler?

#

Did you overclock it also?

fresh river
#

And h100i, never seen the chip for above 60°C

#

And no other OCING

warm path
#

Dang

#

Ok did 1.3 volts remove these errors completely?

fresh river
#

Just making sure this is correct right

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
warm path
#

Yup that is 1.3 volts

fresh river
#

Override is the right mode I’m assuming

warm path
#

What modes do you have?

fresh river
#

Offset, and then offset and override

warm path
#

Override is correct then

fresh river
#

Alright

#

Testing rn

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

Jesus CPU spiked to 100% usage fast

#

No wonder discord is laggy

warm path
#

Ok

#

What spiked the cpu?

fresh river
#

1 error so far

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

The test

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

I’m assuming

warm path
#

How much error while you were using 1.29 volts?

#

And how much errors at 1.27 volts?

fresh river
#

Hundreds in a minute about

#

No exact number

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

In the 1:30 I ran at 1.29 it had 104

#

It just went from 1 to 102 errors rn

warm path
#

Try amping the voltage to 1.31 to see if fixed it

fresh river
#

Temps are fine though

warm path
#

Good

fresh river
#

Back to bios

warm path
#

You want to make sure temp is good while taking voltage up

fresh river
#

Yeah

warm path
#

Ok

#

Try increasing voltage until you get no errors

fresh river
#

Will do, what’s the max voltage do you think until I should stop

warm path
#

1.35-1.4

#

That’s safe voltage

#

Just don’t jump too high

fresh river
#

1.3125 time

warm path
#

If that don’t work you got to move to ram for voltage

fresh river
#

The RAM is technically OC’d but only to advertised speeds

warm path
#

Hm

#

Try running it at stock and not overclocked

fresh river
#

After this voltage test

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

Back to 102 errors

warm path
#

Ok

#

Did you increase the RAM voltage?

fresh river
#

I’m gonna run RAM at stock and see first

warm path
#

Ok

#

Maybe you have a RAM that is binned lower

fresh river
#

Then I’m gonna return it

warm path
#

Ok

#

But first

#

Test the ram at stock then increased voltage

#

It is a hassle to return now because shipping has been slow

fresh river
#

Yeah that’s true, also wanted a 32GB kit though

warm path
#

So you are basically upgrading?

fresh river
#

I think it might be binned lower

#

Yeah I am

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

No errors and it’s at 2133

warm path
#

So did you try stock settings?

#

Ok

fresh river
#

Yep

warm path
#

So stock settings works

#

Overclock and it gets errors?

fresh river
#

Running it a bit longer just to make sure

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

Yep to 3600, I didn’t progressively increase I went straight to 3600 at the beginning

#

Yeah still no errors

warm path
#

Ok

#

Stock setting works well then

#

So if you want to go back to 3600 you may have to increase RAM voltage

fresh river
#

I’ll see rn

warm path
#

It could be a weak RAM chip

fresh river
#

Reset or keep CPU voltage?

warm path
#

Reset

#

We know it is not cpu repeated

#

Related*

fresh river
#

Yeah true

warm path
#

After all these tests

#

Your just adding temp with those settings on cpu

fresh river
#

Should I test it all stock with stock voltage and stock frequenc

warm path
#

So let’s I’ve to ram voltage

#

Sure

#

Go ahead

#

Tell me how it went

fresh river
#

No errors

#

So far with stock voltage and mem

warm path
#

Ok

#

Definitely not cpu related

#

All on the ram

#

So try overclocking with increased voltage

fresh river
#

DRAM voltage right?

warm path
#

Yup

fresh river
#

It’s at 1.188, going to 1.2 on 3600mhz

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

Well

#

I’m getting no signal now lol

#

No debug light, should I restart my pc

#

Well I messed something up my monitor is getting no input

warm path
#

Ok

#

Hmmm

#

Try 1.19 volts

fresh river
#

CPU failure

#

I csnt boot into bios

warm path
#

:/

#

What?

#

There is no way your cpu broke

fresh river
#

My debug light is on for CPU

warm path
#

Ok

fresh river
#

No idea what to do lol

#

Clear CMOS?

warm path
#

Yea

#

Best bet is to clear cmos

#

And run whole rig at stock settings

#

Seems like overclock will never be stable and the ram is lowly binned

fresh river
#

i cleared cmos

#

it runs now

warm path
#

Ok

#

I guess all you can do is run all at stock settings

#

Clearly your ram is binned low

fresh river
#

im gonna return it prolly

warm path
#

Ok

#

And go ahead and go for the 32GB kit

#

Cross your fingers it is a good binned set

#

@fresh river sorry I couldn’t help fix the errors on Overclocked settings

gritty meadow
#

@warm path any particular reason for the @ earlier? :)

ruby laurel
#

they just felt like it hehe

tribal crown
#

G.Skill TridentZ Neo DDR4-3600 C18 DC - 16GB

Is this good ram sticks or is there better alternatives for the same money that has rgb?

upper aspen
#

This may be dumb but 16 8 16 8 is better then 0 8 0 8 right?

elfin warren
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Dpends on the ram speeds tbh

tribal crown
hollow thorn
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For Intel, you could get away with cheaper 3200c16 ram

naive pendant
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The motherboard I got has little things in the way blocking me from putting my own mounting hardware for my aio in, is there any way to fix it?