#cpus-mobo-and-memory

1 messages · Page 163 of 1

hollow thorn
#

Do you need wifi

indigo bay
#

I would be able to set it up close to my router so I could use lan. Also thanks I’ll look at those boards

hollow thorn
#

Probably a B550 phantom gaming 4 at 100$ will do fine

#

A B550-a pro at 130$ if you want bios flashback

clear sequoia
#

Should I buy a Ryzen 7 3700x or a Ryzen 5 3600x

neat estuary
#

You should buy Ryzen 5 5600X

elfin warren
#

For just gaming or gaming + streaming/multitasking?

clear sequoia
#

Yea I'd be multi tasking a lot

#

No streaming tho

#

I might record some videos and edit them but thats about it

elfin warren
#

GPU?

clear sequoia
#

Dont have one

elfin warren
#

Uhm

clear sequoia
#

Im just starting to build a new pc

elfin warren
#

Oh

#

Well, which GPU do you want?

clear sequoia
#

Im gonna try and get either a 3060 ti or a 2060 super after the cpu

elfin warren
#

Eh, don't get 2060 super

#

Priced too high and won't go lower because they quit producing dies in July

clear sequoia
#

Hm aw that sucks

elfin warren
#

1080p, 1440p?

clear sequoia
#

Hmmm mostly 1080p but I might try out higher end games

#

Im especially going for vr games

elfin warren
#

Well, either way if you aren't going Ryzen 5000 I'd recommend the 3700x. Should be more like 5600x/3700x.

clear sequoia
#

Oh i spelled it wrong for the 5600x xd sorry

#

Yea so the 5600x theres combos but their always out of sale

elfin warren
#

Will be for a while

#

same for the 3060TI

#

But those are a good combo

clear sequoia
#

Right now theres a 3700x on sale for 324.99

elfin warren
#

I have one

#

It's a beast

clear sequoia
#

Mhm

elfin warren
#

But does you no good without a GPU lol

clear sequoia
#

Ik but its just for a future build im making

#

Im just gonna buy the parts at their cheapest and save it

#

Im just targeting the cpu first since its one of the most expensive parts and a part that can go out of sale fast

#

So should I go for it?

#

Since once its sunday the promotion ends

#

Well, I guess ill go for it

elfin warren
#

Focus GPU first.

#

If you get the GPU first, get the 3700X

ruby laurel
#

^^^

elfin warren
#

If you get the 5600X first, well, there you go

clear sequoia
#

yea I guess so

#

my mom was about to help me buy it but im just gonna wait till this is on sale instead for cpus

#

thats ram and a 5600x together

#

I was gonna buy it when it was on sale around last week but I didnt have enough to cover the electronic thing

#

that allows you to return it if something is faulty

#

I'm just going to wait till the heat for gpus die down then buy one

#

but rn I'm just going to wait for this to go on sale

naive pendant
#

1600af or 3200g

naive pendant
#

1600af gt710

ruby laurel
#

the 1600af isnt even too good why do you have such a boner for it

fallen lynx
#

can you even get 1600AF anymore?

#

it was a very good price/performance when it was released

#

also, zen2 i think despite being a 1600

#

or zen+?

naive pendant
#

also ye it's zen+

#

@naive pendant do you already have a am4 mobo or buying one?

carmine lynx
#

Are therer still going to be droughts on the ryzen 9 5 series and the 3080 and such

pale ledge
#

So I’m building my pc right now and I seem to not have my front panel connectors not to sure what to do

pearl zealot
#

look around for them

#

they should have came with the case

#

check all the case's packaging

quiet dagger
#

so is an i5 processor good for a decent gaming experience?

hollow thorn
#

depends on which one

#

"i5" doesn't tell us crap

#

maybe it's an i5 2300, or an i5 10600k, or i5 9600k, who knows

carmine lynx
#

Are therer still going to be droughts on the ryzen 9 5 series and the 3080 and such

elfin warren
#

Probably through March of 2021

carmine lynx
#

I was thinking about getting a ryzen 9 5900x around april ish

elfin warren
#

Good iea

#

Stock should be normal then

echo plaza
#

has anyone bought from ant online before

elfin warren
#

5800x huh?

#

I have not but I know those who have and they're OK

bright turret
#

which one should i get

#

R7 5800x or R9 3900x

elfin warren
#

Gaming or? 5800x is faster single core, 3900x is faster multi core. benchmarks wise

bright turret
#

gaming,video editing,work

elfin warren
#

Hmmmm

#

Streaming too?

bright turret
#

sometimes yeah

#

so which is better?

#

price is a no problem

elfin warren
#

It's tough

#

Cuz for video editing, the more cores the merrier right?

#

BUt gaming, the 5800x is better

#

Every day use, the 5800x is probably better too

bright turret
#

its a daily use

elfin warren
#

5800x then. SIngle core performance is way better. For video editing, nVidia GPU's really help there also

bright turret
#

hmm i plan on going full amd

#

but thanks for the help 😄

elfin warren
#

Mmmm

#

for video editing nVidia is king

river ledge
#

ram prices going up

elfin warren
#

NVENC can really help with that due to acceleration

bright turret
elfin warren
#

Ye

elfin warren
#

osnap, that's good stuff

#

I have 32 GB of that

#

🙂

#

Can be used in an upgrade build also

clear sequoia
#

nice

covert turtle
elfin warren
#

CPU and VRM water block?

covert turtle
#

yep

elfin warren
#

NOICE

#

EK?

#

Actually, that doesn't look like an EK block

covert turtle
#

Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero with a EK-Quantum​ Momentum monoblock

elfin warren
#

Oh it is EK. That's sweet!

covert turtle
#

it has the EK logo on it

elfin warren
#

wat

covert turtle
#

bottom right

#

silver circle

elfin warren
#

Oh FFS lol

covert turtle
#

i bought the two together for $375

#

pretty decent deal

elfin warren
#

It is

#

You always get the good deals tho

covert turtle
#

it currently has a R5 5600x in it

#

though

#

thats a placeholder till i can get my 5950x in

elfin warren
#

Yeah, if I was better about it I'd probably have a new CPU/GPU but don't feel like putting in the effort

#

That 5950x gonna scream

covert turtle
#

i sold my 7980xe/board/ram days before the Ryzen 5000 launch

#

expecting to get a 5950x

elfin warren
#

OOF

covert turtle
#

well... havent had my main rig up for a while

#

lol

elfin warren
#

nDeed

#

After the first nVidia launch happened

#

I just gave up on getting new hardware

covert turtle
#

i mean, its not BAD, cause i have more systems i built to resell, and ive been using one as a personal rig

elfin warren
#

I'm making my 2060 suffer through CP2077 @1440p until I get new

covert turtle
#

but its just got a nice system tied up

#

im currently using a 10900k / RTX 3070

#

that i built to resell

elfin warren
#

Sheesh

#

That'll bring good money right now

covert turtle
#

now that i have my board in, i can reassembly my PC

#

and run the 5600x and RTX 3090

#

and just use that till i get the 5950x in

elfin warren
#

That'll be an interesting match

covert turtle
#

yup

#

XD

elfin warren
#

That poor 5600x

covert turtle
#

definitely will be VERY gpu leaning in terms of performance

elfin warren
#

Just a weee bit

#

But your 5950x will make you forget ALLLLL about it

spare gyro
#

Loving my dark hero, you should as well but I'm not a fan of EK, too bad noone else makes a monoblock for it.

naive pendant
#

AMD is planning another four SKUs for its Ryzen 5000 series.  AMD Ryzen 5900, 5800, 5700G, and 5600G The manufacturer is allegedly preparing two processors based on Vermeer silicon and two based on Cezanne. The new SKUs would still be part of the Ryzen 5000 series although they are all designed for two different markets. […]

hollow jolt
#

Hello! My computer is having a bit of a issue, My mobo has built in wifi and it looks like one of the adapters to plugin to the back of the mobo is lose will that case any wifi issue?

worthy dome
#

What specific adapter @hollow jolt

#

Like what be more specific smfh

hollow jolt
#

that one

worthy dome
#

What adapter

#

Not the motherboard

hollow jolt
#

the montherboard has built in wifi

worthy dome
#

WHAT ADAPTER

hollow jolt
#

idk

#

Intel Wireless / Bluetooth?

worthy dome
#

Send a picture

hollow jolt
#

The two stick looking thing

ruby laurel
#

u can tighten it but no ur good

hollow jolt
#

no its losse

#

I will show

elfin warren
#

Oh

#

Yeah, the whole connector is wobbly

#

That could be an issue

ruby laurel
#

oh yea

#

msi quality ™️

hollow jolt
#

ok I will contact support about that

elfin warren
#

ye

#

I'd also recommend something like this

languid vine
elfin warren
#

So it doesn't have hard antennas that get bumped and ruin connectors

hollow thorn
#

@hollow jolt same board same issue, it's just the connector is a bit loose inside, doesn't affect performance.

#

I personally wouldn't worry about it

#

I have no way to test board vs board, but my wifi against my Ethernet comes very close in speeds and ping.

hollow jolt
#

well everday

#

I have to deal without having wifi for like 30mins ( to get it fix ) and then I would get wifi again

primal notch
elfin warren
#

Depends on price

#

and purpose

primal notch
#

I just plan to game

#

And the mobo was 114 and cpu 165

elfin warren
#

Ye, that's fine

warm path
#

Hey guys, I am currently stress-testing another computer of mine using Prime95. I am getting a max CPU temp of 55C, does this mean my cooler is more than enough for the cooling?

#

Its T-case is 66.4C.

elfin warren
#

That's really good

#

P95 is more stressful than every day use or even gaming

warm path
#

Jeez, so I have more headroom to upgrade to a higher TDP cpu?

elfin warren
#

Definitely

#

Or overclock that one

warm path
#

Its a locked Pentium dual core.

elfin warren
#

Oh

#

With a stock intel cooler?

warm path
#

Is 30 watts a big jump in terms of upgrading?

#

Stock OEM cooler

elfin warren
#

Might be

#

Depends on CPU

warm path
#

The upgrade is to an Intel Core i7-4790S.

#

So a 30 watts jump in TDP is huge?

elfin warren
#

Should be OK. That processor came with a stock INtel heatsink

warm path
#

I mean the PC I am upgrading is compact and not like a usual desktop.

elfin warren
#

Right

#

I was checking on the cooler

#

Some processors didn't come with them but that one does so, should be fine

#

You will need new thermal paste though

warm path
#

I am actually surprised the CPU temp didn't climb when the thermal paste is 7 years old on it.

#

Yes, I bought Arctic Silver 5.

elfin warren
#

Good

#

You'll be fine then

warm path
#

I am surprised the OEM didn't cheap out of a cooler instead they went beyond.

#

Thanks for your help!

elfin warren
#

Well, back then they included coolers

ruby laurel
#

is it a dell?

elfin warren
#

Not anymore lol

ruby laurel
#

@elfin warren nope

warm path
#

Yes it is a Dell.

ruby laurel
#

when u buy cpu by tray no coolers

warm path
#

Yup

ruby laurel
#

dell has their own cooler dept

elfin warren
#

They have an exisiting cooler

ruby laurel
#

makes some kickass coolers

elfin warren
#

They don't need one

#

XD

warm path
#

Mhm no wonder that prime95 made my pentium run at 55C

ruby laurel
#

no vintage im saying that oem pcs dont use the intel stock coolers lol

warm path
#

MHM

elfin warren
#

Sigh

#

nevermind

ruby laurel
#

i ran an 8700k at 4.7 on one of those dell coolers for a month

warm path
#

But I am clear to upgrade to an Intel Core i7-4790S?

elfin warren
#

YES

ruby laurel
#

yes

#

youll be fine

warm path
#

Ok

ruby laurel
#

why that one though?

#

find a good deal or

warm path
#

I found one for $160.

#

Not paying full price XD

main pulsar
#

the 10100 is gonna obliterate that chip tho

#

at like 100

ruby laurel
#

^^^^^

main pulsar
#

worth the motherboard and ram upgrade imo

elfin warren
#

Ye

warm path
#

I won't risk upgrading to an i7-4790 because I rather risk 30w jump rather than 49w.

#

It is an AIO PC so how am I going to swap the motherboard out? 🤣

main pulsar
#

oof

#

rip

warm path
#

I mean the 4790 series is not obsolete yet.

main pulsar
#

for your purposes, no

warm path
#

I still see people using i5-2500K to game.

main pulsar
#

in the grand scheme of things, its destroyed by the weakest 10th gen processor

lavish dome
main pulsar
#

but yes, it will run many games just fine

warm path
#

I mean the 10th gen uses more cores and higher threads and a lower transistor.

lavish dome
#

ye

warm path
#

So that would mean less heat, and more performace.

ruby laurel
#

@main pulsar gonna be bottlenecked by whatever gpu the AIO has

lavish dome
#

less tdp too

#

maybe idk

ruby laurel
#

over the cpu 10000%

warm path
#

mhm

main pulsar
#

lmao

warm path
#

Less TDP

ruby laurel
#

id just grab an i5 for like $40

main pulsar
#

i see some 4790 on ebay rn for 110

#

not bad

warm path
#

is why the 13-10100 has a TDP of 65w not 84w.

ruby laurel
#

yeah sassy its like

#

the best ddr3 cpu lol

warm path
#

I chosen the i7-4790S

#

I didn't opt of the i7-4790 when I can go cheaper for it.

ruby laurel
#

what do you even want to use it fo

#

r

warm path
#

Still don't need the fans running crazy.

#

Multitasking on basic level

ruby laurel
#

youll be fine with an i5

warm path
#

I occassionally tax the CPU.

#

I run multiple instances of an application and do web stuff with youtube.

main pulsar
warm path
#

Let say 8 of a game instance

ruby laurel
#

just upgrade the whole system imo

warm path
#

Then I have to shell out 600-700$ for a decent system. 🤣

#

Lets say I might be a cheap guy.

#

@main pulsar I mean did you find a good deal for an Intel Core i7-4790S? I prefer lower TDP to not make my fans run high all the time.

main pulsar
ruby laurel
#

^^^^

warm path
#

Don't know if BIOS going to take that Xeon.

main pulsar
#

4790 is 3.2/4.0
this is 3.1/3.5

#

wait

#

thats the L version

warm path
#

1.1GHz

#

Mhm

main pulsar
#

ok there

warm path
#

I am good, the i7-4790S can beat it, I can get by, I don't really need ECC memory.

main pulsar
#

not the point

warm path
#

I already have the i7-4790S.

ruby laurel
main pulsar
#

huh?

#

HUH?

warm path
#

Yeah, I bought it days ago.

ruby laurel
#

waste ur money however you like then

#

dont get why ur asking abt it

warm path
#

I am only stress-testing to see if PC is fit for upgrade.

main pulsar
#

then why ask us?

ruby laurel
warm path
#

I am just asking for reference.

#

@ruby laurel well sorry...

ruby laurel
#

hope u tear a ribbon cable for wasting my time keeeek

main pulsar
#

ok, but you literally have the hardware right infront of you

#

tf do you need a reference for

#

smhmh

warm path
#

Sorry...

warm path
ruby laurel
#

well i hope it does so it cancels out and now theres just a 50% chance

#

be careful and get a proper toolkit

warm path
#

All i need a screw driver 🤣

ruby laurel
#

what AIO

warm path
#

and thermal paste

#

What do you mean what AIO?

ruby laurel
#

you said youre upgrading an allinone

main pulsar
#

he means all in one

ruby laurel
#

she

#

but yeah

warm path
#

Yeah

#

A Dell AIO

ruby laurel
#

what model

ruby laurel
#

ive worked on those before

#

youll want a pry tool at the very least

elfin warren
#

Spudger

#

For the spudge spudge

warm path
#

I went inside it already to upgrade the RAM, no pry tools required.

ruby laurel
#

nah spudger might break

#

clips r stronk on these

elfin warren
#

Metal spudger. I don't use plastic ones

warm path
#

Wait you upgraded that particular model before, @ruby laurel ?

ruby laurel
#

pry tool

#

i like spudgers for getting ribbon cables hehe

elfin warren
#

Potato Potato

ruby laurel
#

hehe ily racer

warm path
#

Hm

ruby laurel
#

and yes

warm path
#

What did you upgrade in it?

ruby laurel
#

grose

elfin warren
#

I don't use those lol

ruby laurel
#

@warm path just drive and ram

warm path
#

Oh, not CPU?

ruby laurel
#

downgraded cpu

warm path
#

to?

ruby laurel
#

to some dual core pentium

#

from an i5

warm path
#

Why would you downgrade?

ruby laurel
#

it was just for grafana

warm path
#

Ok

ruby laurel
#

sat on top of rack

magic cedar
#

Ew pentium lol

warm path
#

Was it an i5-4590T or i5-4570T?

#

@magic cedar sadly, I have one and I am going to get that junk out.

magic cedar
#

Why not downgrade to celeron xD

ruby laurel
#

4570t

warm path
#

Ok, did you downgrade to a Penium G3220T?

#

@magic cedar Celerons are too weak not even worth downgrading to.

magic cedar
#

Lol

warm path
#

I mean you can downgrade for thermal but Celeron too much to sacrifice.

ruby laurel
#

i think it was celeron actually

warm path
#

Hm, ok.

ruby laurel
#

worked alright

warm path
#

Even now or is it too sluggish?

ruby laurel
#

trashed it

warm path
#

Oh, ok.

magic cedar
#

Maybe i should use my gtx 460 for mining jusr cuz why not lol

warm path
#

Jeez, Core 2 is like 5C cooler than Core 1 on testing and at idle.

#

Yeah, make good use out of old parts.

#

Um, why is Core 2 like 5C cooler than Core 1?

magic cedar
warm path
#

Why won't workload be even instead of prioritized?

elfin warren
#

COre temp variation is normal

warm path
#

I can see 1-2C difference is normal but is 5C difference normal?

ruby laurel
#

u only have 2

warm path
#

I have two cores but temp difference of 5C.

ruby laurel
#

and im saying thats normal

elfin warren
#

Both of us are saying that's normal

warm path
#

Ok, thanks.

#

At least idle temps are in 30Cs

storm spoke
#

i don't need a war on this question but...

#

i9-10900X vs amd ryzen 5950x

elfin warren
#

What for?

#

IE, what's your useage?

storm spoke
#

gaming, streaming, uh....

#

idk lol

main pulsar
#

5950x better in every way

#

except price

elfin warren
#

And the fact that it's unobtanium

main pulsar
#

i think 10900x is slightly cheaper

#

but also not worth buying

storm spoke
#

what about 10600 vs 5600x?

main pulsar
#

or how about you tell us what you need

#

and we will make a suggestion

#

:)

#

just gaming?

#

streaming is easy, doesnt take much on a modern gaming pc

#

if you snag an nvidia card, NVENC does it all

#

10600k is like 280 rn

#

would suggest

naive pendant
storm spoke
#

oh ok

#

ryzen 3 2100?

naive pendant
#

it's only 3100, 1200, 3300x, 2300x, 1300x

#

(the non APUs R3)

storm spoke
#

ah mb

marble hare
#

yo so i recently changed platform completely to a 5900x and an msi x570 unify mobo

devout mothBOT
#
𝕐𝕦𝕟𝕘 𝕆𝕡𝕥𝕚𝕔𝕒𝕝 𝔻𝕣𝕚𝕧𝕖 | Sam#2000 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

marble hare
#

all the other stuff is the same

#

whenever i boot up it says scanning and repairing c drive?

#

anyone know why that might be happening?

#

my c drive is an m.2 nvme

cursive marlin
#

I need help

#

I activated xmp to get the 3600 frequency of my ram and windows took way too long to boot up

#

Turned it back off and windows doesn’t boot now

storm spoke
#

alot of people say pc building is easy, lol welp

naive pendant
#

it is like a lego game with screws

#

only part that is difficult is with cable managment

elfin warren
#

Software

#

Like turning on XMP and now it won't boot

#

Which I don't understand

storm spoke
#

it's like a game of legos with me stepping in the lego pieces and it breaking

hollow thorn
#

@cursive marlin reset cmos

#

Well, it's like legos, except some pieces have defects, and if any pieces have defects, it doesn't work.

storm spoke
#

well taken in for the fact that i screwed up a process which costed me hundered of dollars because of my mistake and we'll call that a successful run nontheless lol

hollow thorn
#

Tbh pc building is easy, but also easy to mess up, and troubleshooting is annoying

elfin prawn
#

the 10400 only use 2666 memory speed?

hollow thorn
#

@elfin prawn the cap depends on the motherboard

#

B460 H410 cap it at 2666mhz

#

Z490 doesn't cap it

naive pendant
#

how to get bluetooth on msi b550 wifi motherboard

#

my airpods connect, they let me hear

#

but my mic is not working on them

fallen lynx
#

if they connect at all doesn't that mean you have bluetooth?

#

is the MB supposed to have bluetooth built in?

river ledge
#

I got a blue screen about tried to write in written memory space something then I ran window memory diagnostics and it said there was no problems. So is there a problem or is it a random blue screen ?

fallen lynx
#

does it happen often?

river ledge
#

Well no this is the 1st time it happened

fallen lynx
#

it might be a fluke

#

you can also try memtest86, or if it keeps happening you may need to loosen memory timings in BIOS or try turning off XMP

river ledge
#

Ok

mild birch
#

Memtest isnt a good stability test

#

HCI memtest is super weak

naive pendant
#

i7 9700k? good?

warm path
#

@naive pendant yes, a 9th Generation i7 can hold up.

naive pendant
#

okay thanks because im thinking about upgrading

warm path
#

It is also unlocked so if it is not good enough, you may overclock it.

#

Where you upgrading from?

naive pendant
#

yup because mine i cant over clock

#

i5 8400

warm path
#

Hmm

#

You are upgrading because you want to overclock?

naive pendant
#

no because i want better peformance

warm path
#

Oh

#

Well

#

Try upgrading to an i5-9600K

#

It will be marginally better

naive pendant
#

oh okay im gonna look at that

warm path
#

I mean you can also overclock it

naive pendant
#

true

warm path
#

And you can an additional 2 cores making it 6.

#

But you give up hyper threading

naive pendant
#

i have 6 to

warm path
#

Oh

#

Well, make sure to get latest BIOS before upgrading

#

Your choice of you want the i5 or i7

#

I7 has 8 cores whole i5 has 6 cores

astral harness
#

Which is better Prime B350M-A or Strix X470-F?

pale mist
#

@astral harness definitely the strix

#

Way stronger vrms

astral harness
#

Oops Prime B450M-A

pale mist
#

Still

#

What CPU?

astral harness
#

3200g

pale mist
#

Oh, go with the prime then

#

The strix is very much overkill for that and the prime will handle it well

naive pendant
#

With budget CPUs like that motherboard does not matter at all as long as it will handle the other parts

elfin warren
#

Well

#

Consider upgrade path

naive pendant
#

Why

#

its 3200g

elfin warren
#

B350 won't support a Ryzen 5000 in the future

#

If they want to upgrade later

naive pendant
#

you would be looking at a used 5000 series

elfin warren
#

Not necessarily

#

In 1-2 years, still get them new

#

AMD is changing sockets at the end of 2021

#

So, Ryzen 5000 probably be around new for another 2 years

#

Just a thought

stone plaza
#

Anyone here have Ryzen 9 5950X and what idle temps you're running?

river ledge
stone plaza
#

Ah nice, I'm hitting around 42 idle so I guess it ain't too bad, just concerned about my thermal paste application

stone plaza
#

A little bit on one edge, a little ghetto but that's all I had left of the tube, the rest is the pre-applied on the cooler

river ledge
stone plaza
#

Yes but the cooler is slightly off-center cuz it's one of those cooler where you can change to different mounting mechanisms

river ledge
#

The one on the cooler is enough

#

and u are starting to remind me of the verge

stone plaza
#

Yes yes, but not if the like 20% of the cpu is not in contact by paste

#

do you understand?

river ledge
# stone plaza do you understand?

yea i do understand but pre applied thermal paste is enough. most of the time there thermal paste is the spread method which is the best method. So there is no point adding more thermal paste

stone plaza
#

Yeah alright, but the paste were off center, as in a lot of the CPU were left open without paste

#

because of semi-shitty design but I can't complain

river ledge
#

SPREAD

#

MOUNTING PRESSURE = SPREAD

#

OF THERMAL PASTE

stone plaza
#

Do you want a drawing

river ledge
#

YES

stone plaza
#

Cuz I dont think you understand

#

Give me a minute

#

paint time

river ledge
#

YES

#

ARE U IN MICROSOFT PAINT YET

stone plaza
#

YES

#

HOLD ON

#

I CANT SEND IMAGES

#

YIKES

#

PM

river ledge
#

?

stone plaza
#

here ya go

#

Don't have permissions to send images here

pastel monolith
#

dont add more paste to pre-applied paste just wipe away pre-applied paste and apply your own 😉

stone plaza
#

👍

midnight pollen
#

Need mooirrrr

stuck basin
#

How's the MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON

#

good performance for the money?

naive pendant
#

what mobos can fit this case

#

it was originally DTX

#

I speced out a itx mobo with an Athlon 220ge and a Gt625 which came with this pc

#

And a 120gb ssd

elfin warren
#

@stuck basin ASUS TUF X570 WiFi is a better deal. Same features but only $189

tranquil silo
#

^

#

I simp for MSi boards and can agree

elfin warren
#

The ASUS Tuf beats a lot of $250+ mobos for features

tranquil silo
#

it does

pale mist
#

it is great but its kinda too common for me

#

like its too good

elfin warren
#

What is wrong with that??

#

No ones gonna know what mobo you have lol

ruby laurel
#

youll know

elfin warren
#

I do know

#

I love it

#

It's awesome.

#

It OC's well and is cheaper than the others for the same thing

vague wagon
#

does anyone know a good 8th gen cpu

tranquil silo
#

8700k, 8086k, but why? get a 9900k if you have a z370 or z390

vague wagon
#

yea I have a z370 motherboard

tranquil silo
#

or if you're starting from scratch, get a ryzen 3000 or 5000

#

get a 9900k then

elfin warren
#

Mmmm

tranquil silo
#

just make sure bios is updated

elfin warren
#

Z370 and Z390 limit ram speeds yeah?

tranquil silo
#

the b chipsets do

#

not z

elfin warren
#

Ah, it's the H too

#

Z370 is good for DDR4 4000

#

SO fine

tranquil silo
#

who buys h chipsets?

elfin warren
#

Plenty of people ona budget

tranquil silo
#

ew

#

those are like a chipsets for amd

elfin warren
#

Not everyone can afford the good stuff

tranquil silo
#

i steer clear from those

vague wagon
#

cause rn i have an i5 8400k and im trying to upgrade

tranquil silo
#

update your bios

vague wagon
#

ok

tranquil silo
#

once you do, then buy a 9900k

#

thats the end of the road for z370/390

elfin warren
#

Yep

ruby laurel
tranquil silo
#

aeugh

#

h chipsets scare me

elfin warren
#

For people who just want to plug and play, H is fine

tranquil silo
#

its like buying a dell

elfin warren
#

Yep

#

Plenty fine for a lot of people

tranquil silo
#

or a thermaltake psu

elfin warren
#

HEY

ruby laurel
#

h chipset is mostly for system integrators

elfin warren
#

I have a 6 year old one, it's fine

tranquil silo
#

LMAO

#

roasting is what im here for. as long as its in good fun

ruby laurel
#

thermaltake sent my work a like

elfin warren
#

Don't tell anyone though

ruby laurel
#

1000w platinum psu

elfin warren
#

They get upset

tranquil silo
ruby laurel
tranquil silo
#

true

elfin warren
#

Ype but you need to realize the vast majority of PC users don't care what the motherboard is as long as it works

tranquil silo
#

also true, but that fact freaks me out more lmao

#

you could sell a guy a bomb power supply like thermal take or rosewill and itll go off on the client

elfin warren
#

THe odds of that happening are very low

#

Even with garbage PSU's

tranquil silo
#

that being said, rosewill has SOME good PSUs

#

ive used their capstone line once or twice

ruby laurel
#

rosewill psus are alr

#

and savage literally i think that TT psu is still there at my old work

tranquil silo
#

lol

ruby laurel
#

everyone knew thermaltakes rep so no one took a FREE 1000w platinum psu

#

thats how ass they are

#

me on the other hand

#

i got a free evga 1000w plat

tranquil silo
#

DAMN

#

GIMME

ruby laurel
#

its in my threadripper system rn

#

purring away

tranquil silo
#

nice

#

have an 850 P2 running the damn thing im typing on

#

have the 750 P2 that I originally had in it too. I upgraded for 3080's sake

ruby laurel
#

yea evga makes some nice stuff

tranquil silo
#

indeed

#

and their CS rocks

ruby laurel
#

im a massive fsp simp tho

#

so be quiet are my psu people

tranquil silo
#

fair

ruby laurel
#

i like how theyre the only brand that doesnt sell bombs

#

all my systems run everything evga when i can help it

#

psu included

#

but

tranquil silo
#

I like SS as well. Their PX and FOCUS lines are great

ruby laurel
#

i tell ppl to get be quiet

#

one experience i had with seasonic was one of their gold rated units nuking a test bench i had

tranquil silo
elfin warren
#

Seasonic has sadly gone downhill with some models

ruby laurel
#

currently dating be quiet because none of their psus are bad

#

theres that one tier list that says some of their stuff is a c

#

but ive dealt with fsp units in almost every sys ive managed and they are literal perfection

elfin warren
#

Huh

#

You like fSP?

#

Cuz I'm gonna blow your mind

#

TR2 700W – FSP
TR2 800W – FSP
TR2 1000W – FSP

#

LitePower 350W W0292 – FSP

#

Litepower 450W W0293RU – FSP
Litepower 500W W0294RU – FSP

ruby laurel
#

i do like fsp

#

their higher end stuff

elfin warren
#

FSP makes those TT models lol

#

I have one 🙂

ruby laurel
#

which is why i like oem units and be quiet's rebrands

hollow kraken
#

how good is the 5900x? or should i get a 5950x instead?

elfin warren
#

For gaming? 5900x is fine

hollow kraken
#

aight

marble hare
#

5900x has been amazing so far for me for editing and gaming too

hollow kraken
#

is it on par with a threadripper?

elfin warren
#

5950x is overkill unless you're doing a LOT of 4k/8k video editing

ruby laurel
#

maybe for gaming itll beat it cause higher clocks

#

but for threaded workloads tr/epyc kills it for performance per socket

hushed tiger
#

Would my son benefit from an upgrade? current: AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six core, 8 GB Ram, WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 ATA Device, display adapter-AMD Radeon (TM) RX 560 Series, motherboard -m5a78l-m plus/usb3

#

used for gaming online

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

Budget?

hushed tiger
#

i have no idea what the range is actually

#

not the best , not the worst.

#

I just want to upgrade what is needed...do I have to do all of it at once?

elfin warren
#

Cpu motherboard ram should be first

ruby laurel
#

storage should go above that tbh

#

that drive is uhhhhhhh

#

a wd blue 1tb if i know that model number like i think i do

umbral badger
#

currently building a 10700k rtx 3080 build. How important are timings in memory for me? I've never worried about them, so just figured I'd ask.

ruby laurel
#

intel doesnt care too much

#

intel aint a picky eater like amd hehe

umbral badger
#

gotcha

#

And is there anything wrong with a 2tb NVME as my main drive rather than say a 512gb nvme and then a 1-2tb 2.5 ssd for games, etc? @ruby laurel

elfin warren
#

Nope

umbral badger
#

Alright and finally what about say an intel 660p 2TB nvme vs Samsung 970 2TB nvme. like $210 vs $280+. currently have the intel nvme and not sure if I should just wipe it and stick it in the new PC or would it be better to start fresh?

ruby laurel
#

samsung

#

intel consumer drives are

#

💩

umbral badger
#

Well glad mines been alright these past few years then lol

#

I'll splurge on it then, ty 🙂

ruby laurel
#

they work just

elfin warren
#

MIddle ground

ruby laurel
#

slowly

ruby laurel
#

and poorly

elfin warren
#

$250 instead of $280

#

😉

ruby laurel
#

sabrent is also excellent

#

❤️

umbral badger
#

Really?? Okay! thanks guys

elfin warren
#

nDeed

umbral badger
#

Just got a 3080 order placed and confirmed so time to order all these parts 😄

ruby laurel
#

niceeeeee

#

enjoy the card friendo!

umbral badger
#

absolutely 😄

umbral badger
elfin warren
#

QLC vs TLC Nand

#

Lifespan, basically

umbral badger
#

price difference makes the $250 worthwhile in your opinion?

elfin warren
#

Speed and life span

#

QLC has less life than TLC

ruby laurel
#

most ppl dont kill off ssds but once it runs out of cache ur gonna be feeling that qlc

#

vs tlc

umbral badger
#

gotcha

hollow thorn
#

Also it has less dram

elfin warren
#

That too

hollow thorn
elfin warren
#

Always stick with the black label, blue stripe Sabrent

hollow thorn
#

QLC is also a good bit slower than TLC once you go through that dram

umbral badger
#

Gotcha gotcha 👍

ruby laurel
#

256mb vram yea

#

dram

#

oopie

hollow thorn
#

lel

ruby laurel
#

fingers pls

elfin warren
#

QLC also doesn't have the TBW that TLC does

ruby laurel
#

also true

umbral badger
#

that goes in with longevity right?

ruby laurel
#

@elfin warren thats the other thing, samsung drives last FOREVER

elfin warren
#

Yes

ruby laurel
#

hit something like 3.5pb on a samsung nvme drive

#

thats so worth it

elfin warren
#

TBW = longevity

ruby laurel
#

cause ive killed a sabrent before

elfin warren
#

The more the merrier

ruby laurel
#

it lit like 1.3 and then went to read only lol

elfin warren
#

Yeah but

#

that's enterprise stuff

#

Not regular people lol

#

You abuse stuff waaaayyyyy more than us regular folks

ruby laurel
#

heehehehehehehe

#

im just saying thats a point in sammy's favor

#

so many ppl hate on them cause they cost $20 more than the mp34 omegalul

#

100% if i got a mp34 itd hit the rated tbw and die like

#

almost instantly after lol

hollow thorn
#

lol

#

@ruby laurel but can a Samsung drive live through 590PB of data written? >:D

umbral badger
#

Y'all wanna critique my build list before I start buying everything? 😂

ruby laurel
#

lmaooooo

umbral badger
#

590 wtf

hollow thorn
#

lemme fire it up and see what it is at now

ruby laurel
#

is that just broken or did u hammer the hell out of that drive

hollow thorn
#

laptop internal drive

#

idek what's with it

ruby laurel
#

i use hd sentinel for my SMART

#

dont trust crystal too much

#

plus it gives me a percentage health instead of

#

GREAT, GOOD, and OH NO

hollow thorn
#

lemme try HD sentinel then

elfin warren
#

How long between the last pic and this one?

#

10 PTB of data?

ruby laurel
#

100% its just flagging something weird

#

not even insane datacenter ssds are rated for half that

hollow thorn
#

it keeps going up unholy amounts

#

every time I look at it

ruby laurel
#

lmao

#

its like crucial stuff

#

those things lie on SMART all the time

#

ive had mine tell me its at -10% health

#

after 400tbw

#

still works fine tho

hollow thorn
elfin warren
#

YE

ruby laurel
#

yeah

#

crystal is weird as hell

#

0 trust for them imo

#

diskmark is good

hollow thorn
#

lol

umbral badger
#

lol welp I cant share mine

hollow thorn
#

I mean

#

it's free

#

good nuff

ruby laurel
#

depends

#

hd sentinel just knows how to read from more drves

umbral badger
#

98% health, 39405 GB written, 9513 hours. I probably dont need to worry I guess lol

ruby laurel
#

yea ur good

#

hd sentinel is THE drive health program

hollow thorn
#

that's prob correct for read writes

#

gonna try hd sentinel on my mp510 too now

ruby laurel
#

i just despise how non granular cdi is

hollow thorn
#

ima run cdm with hd sentinel in the background

ruby laurel
#

owo

short elbow
#

Anyone know if a normal ryzen 5 3600 stock cooler is good enough to keep the 3600 at a decent temp

elfin warren
#

Yes

#

It's find unless you're going to overclock

#

Just have good airflow in the case

short elbow
#

K my case is very good exaust but not the best intake will that work you think?

#

If not, I might have to get the 3600x for the better cooler

elfin warren
#

Nah

#

Swap an exhaust fan for the intake then

stiff kraken
#

anyone know a good source for H264 streaming benchmarks?

ruby laurel
#

what do you mean?

#

like trying to bench a device streaming h264 from a source?

stiff kraken
#

i have someone looking for a pc that'll stream 1080p 60 over h264 while a console renders the game

#

just trying to figure out how much is enough

#

i'm thinking i3-10100 will be able to handle it

#

but hard to say

ruby laurel
#

h264 is just a codec

#

codec doesnt mean anything rly

#

bitrate is what matters

stiff kraken
#

enough bitrate for 1080p 60

#

i've only done streaming over nvenc before so i have no idea here

#

i'm having difficulty finding any info about it

ruby laurel
#

so like 1080p 60mbps

stiff kraken
#

i used 6500 bitrate for nvenc but from what i understand nvenc requires higher bitrate than h264 to look good

#

hence why i included h264

#

i could be wrong

ruby laurel
#

i have transcode data

#

but cpu doesnt do anything rly

#

mostly gpu

stiff kraken
#

gonna be using integrated graphics most likely

ruby laurel
#

then ur ok

#

iirc

#

u searched for the igpu and then h264 playback?

stiff kraken
#

umm

#

i'm not looking for playback

#

encoding

ruby laurel
#

oh encode?

#

haha by stream i thought u meant stream to not stream from

#

silly me

#

one second babe

stiff kraken
#

yeah i'm just wonder if there's any data showing what cpus can handle what kind of encoding

ruby laurel
#

yes i have a chart

#

gime sec

stiff kraken
#

perfect

ruby laurel
#

says plex works for any on the fly transcode

stiff kraken
#

uhh is there something for CPUs

elfin warren
#

Plex is good but need a decent CPU for transcoding

#

That said, you can set up a media server on a Shield so

stiff kraken
#

just trying to figure out if an i3-10100 is enough or an i5-10400 would be better

elfin warren
#

1080p transcode?

#

or 4K?

#

Decode encode

ruby laurel
#

@elfin warren plex does gpu transcode if u arent poor

stiff kraken
#

1080p encode

elfin warren
#

I have a 2060

#

I3 is fine

stiff kraken
#

it's going to be streaming gameplay from a console

ruby laurel
#

i3 is fine

#

well depends

#

ask them what resolution

#

theyre streaming it at

stiff kraken
#

1080p 60 fps

ruby laurel
#

oh yeah ur good

restive halo
#

Ryzen dropped back in stock!!! I can't believe it!!!

ruby laurel
#

yoink one

restive halo
#

You know it, just managed to snag a 7 5800x

elfin warren
#

Nice!

stiff kraken
#

damn i was looking for a 5800x too but didn't manage to grab one

restive halo
#

It even said out of stock on the app, I tried the browser and lucked out! There might still be combos in stock just keep refreshing unless it shows out of stock. I kept getting an error message till it finally let me add.

restive halo
elfin warren
#

Yup, restock time, F5 refresh and keep at it

pale mist
#

yeah soo... I fricked up big time

#

I built a R9 3900x and 2080 build a while ago

elfin warren
#

Lol

#

You have fomo

pale mist
#

and I bought an asus prime b550-m

elfin warren
#

Nothing more or less

pale mist
#

and the RAM is wonky

#

like it wont go over 2133

elfin warren
#

Emmmm

#

DOCP? XMP?

pale mist
#

and I know 3rd gen Zen loves fast memory- it is trident z

elfin warren
#

Not manual clock.

pale mist
#

XMP makes the PC restart a lot

elfin warren
#

Hmmm

pale mist
#

will the 3900x + 2133 mem bottleneck the 3080?

elfin warren
#

Got em in the right slots?

pale mist
#

yep

#

I was told it is the VRMs

elfin warren
#

Not side by side?

pale mist
#

nope

elfin warren
#

Vrms meh

#

Probably wonky ram

elfin warren
#

Bios update??

pale mist
#

hmm. should try

elfin warren
#

Yes

pale mist
#

ok, noted those things. will check back if none work

elfin warren
#

👍

pale mist
#

but if worst comes to worst will the CPU+RAM be a bottleneck?

elfin warren
#

Mmmm

#

Hamstrung a bit

#

Return the ram and get some on the qvl if you can. But trident should work

pale mist
#

hmm. ok then man, thanks

elfin warren
#

3600 cl16 i hope

pale mist
#

yep

elfin warren
#

Good job

warm path
#

Hm, I have two PC. Both are AIO PCs. When I ran Prime95 on both with AVX disabled why is my Dell running at only 55C full load and my Lenovo at 65C? The CPU in both are 35 watts CPUs.

naive pendant
#

maybe lack of thermal paste

warm path
#

Hm, both have thermal paste on.

elfin warren
#

Old thermal paste

warm path
#

The Dell is older...

elfin warren
#

Different cpus

#

Dont worry about it

warm path
#

Maybe but both CPU are rated for 35 watts.

elfin warren
#

Prime isn't a realistic workload

warm path
#

I know that, I was just asking.

#

Prime overtax the CPU.

naive pendant
elfin warren
#

Could be clock speed

naive pendant
#

different fans and different rpm curve

elfin warren
#

Core count

#

Any number of things.

warm path
#

The Lenovo use dual heat sink while the Dell use single heat sink.

#

Wait, so a quad-core at the same TDP runs hotter than a dual-core at the same TDP?

naive pendant
#

TDP isn't really a good measure

elfin warren
#

It can yes

naive pendant
#

ye but sometimes are not accurate

elfin warren
#

Tdp is a terrible measure

#

Forget it exists lol

warm path
#

Hm

#

Still a 55C degree on prime95 means I got tons of headroom to upgrade right?

naive pendant
#

🤔

#

wydm?

#

what cpu, what socket

#

plus passive cooling? eh

warm path
#

Upgrading from Pentium G3220T to an i7-4790S, LGA1150 with H81 chipset.

#

Cooling can be turned from passive to active and vice versa.

naive pendant
#

if you going to upgrade to a i7
go active cooling

#

plus wouldn't be better value to buy uh...a xeon?

warm path
#

The sad part is, the PC don't have a dedicated GPU.

#

Cooling will always be active.

#

No option to add GPU either.

naive pendant
#

you gonna be using it for personal usage?

warm path
#

Heavy multitasking.

naive pendant
#

ah

warm path
#

Running multiple instances of games and exploiting.

naive pendant
#

though is it like AIO with the mobo on the back of a monitor?

tranquil silo
#

runescape?

warm path
#

Maybe some web browsing included.

#

Yeah, it is.

tranquil silo
#

lmao called it

warm path
#

?

#

Called what?

tranquil silo
#

you use it for runescape

warm path
#

No

#

I don't even know what is that.

tranquil silo
#

its an ancient mmo where running mulitple instances helped you progress

naive pendant
warm path
#

What I mean is I switch fans to always on.

ruby laurel
tender condor
#

anyone know if my ryzen 5 3600 is supposed to be at 4.2ghz on very light load

surreal ocean
#

It's turboing

humble wasp
#

how i can know what my mother board capable for ram size and speed and how many SSD can connect to it any one can help me please?

pastel monolith
#

@humble wasp specs from the manufacturers website or the motherboard manual

humble wasp
#

i buy it from amazon but manufactures cyberpower

elfin warren
#

Open side panel, look at motherboard for the model number

#

Should be on the motherboard

humble wasp
#

i know the model name

#

but how i know how many SSD can connect to it and ram sizes and speed

elfin warren
#

Need the motherboard model number

#

You don't have the order email or receipt with the specs?

#

Or a link to it on Amazon?

#

Anything?

humble wasp
#

i can talk to amazon

#

i have small paper as receipt

#

because they install only on ram i need other one

#

and if for future need another SSD to be added i can know if posible

elfin warren
#

Well, there should be 4-6 Sata ports on the board

#

How many of them are full?

humble wasp
#

i don't know :"(

elfin warren
#

Black white and blue are SATA ports

humble wasp
#

i am new to PC

elfin warren
#

Open the side panel and look?