#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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unkempt sandal
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i think i may have soemone who wants to get into pc gaming buy this one and then start from scratch but i just need this till parts are readily available

devout fiber
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Uuuuuu B550 Unify announced bruh

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After i bought my gamig carbon wifi

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Lets hope its pretty much the same so i dont have regret

pale mist
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I have a mpg b550 gaming edge, cant see it getting a whole lot better

forest birch
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anyone here also have usb ports problem with B550/X570 + 5000 series cpu?

meager river
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@boreal zenith ah, that's probably it

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I found a random old USB Drive

boreal zenith
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yea

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I used USB 2.0 when I was building my first pc and I got giga stressed smth bad happened but

meager river
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However, it should still work by updating through the internet right?

boreal zenith
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just needs 3.0 to update

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idk I always use ezflash

meager river
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Yea, that's what i tried at first

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Then i tried the other options

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however, none worked

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@pearl zealot I did, and it didn't work :(

naive pendant
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What memory would be better for a ryzen 5000 gaming pc?
F4-3600C16D-16GVK or F4-3200C14D-16GVK
This is gskill ripjaws V
I'm getting it in 4x8gb

ruby laurel
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Literally have never updated my bios

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3600

naive pendant
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Sure?

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I guess the speed is more important then eh

ruby laurel
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The 3200 has tighter timings but the speed should make up for it a bit more

naive pendant
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Fair enough, just wanted somones opinion. Thanks

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But it's probably extremely similar anyway right

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I'd personally still get the 3600 kit

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over the 3200 one

pastel monolith
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the ryzen cpu will benefit more from speed than timings

naive pendant
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Ok thanks

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What about if it's 16-16-16-36 vs 16-18-18-38
How much does that matter?

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Or 16-19-19-39

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Damn turns out my store removed the one you guys chose so ill have to go for this gskill trident z F4-3600C16D-16GTZKW
Too bad it's costs more

tranquil silo
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I have 3600 at 16-19-19-39 and am p sure its hynix cjr so Ive never tried OCing it

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that being said, it is dual rank 32GB

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dual rank is best for zen 2

unborn plaza
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Guys i have a 10600kf and msi gaming edge wifi and rtx 3080. Should i overclock the cpu? I have been playing cyberpunk, the temps in my lian li case are around 70-80 degrees for my gpu while playing for 10 hours. Can i squeeze more performance oit of the 10600kf or just leave it as is. Temps for cpu is around 60-70 i think, i use artic 240 aio.

pseudo stag
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Hi @glad socket , I bought around black friday a B450M DS3H to pair with a R7 1700 and 16GB of TridentZ 3200Mhz and it keep crashing. No internet, no video signal I have to hard shutdown and restart. I upgraded BIOS to latest firmware with no luck. Running TrueNAS. It was doing so every 2-3 days, now it's everyday. I'm starting to lose my mind. Do I go to RMA ?

astral drift
ruby laurel
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Xpg=adata

boreal tundra
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are they worth 129 for 32gb??

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or i should buy a gskill 16gb for 90

naive pendant
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so 10700k is cheaper than the ryzen 7 5800x and seems similar in perfomance
seems like the tables have turned for intel

deft inlet
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switch places

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:)]

full flame
naive pendant
full flame
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I mean doesn't the 5600x and 5800x win in single core for the most part and the 5800x wins in multicore? I'd love to know that if I'm wrong. AMD's price hike with the new gen changes things some, but it's not clear to me that the 10700k is the obvious choice if you can get a 5600x (or higher course 5000 series if you need the cores)

naive pendant
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i was comparing to 5800x tho

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not 5600x

full flame
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Yeah, I'm just saying if you need mostly single core you can go 5600x for slightly cheaper.

naive pendant
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ye

full flame
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Overall the 5800x is in an odd spot I think, so just get like a 5900x and go all in 😄

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I'm kidding, I'd be looking at a 5600x or 5600 (if they release one)

naive pendant
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i7 10700k seems like a good alternative to 5800x

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only that i7 tho

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because the i5 10600k is still pricey

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compared to the 5600x

hollow thorn
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10850k for 400usd at microcenter is pretty great :D

naive pendant
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really? thats actually pretty good price

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for a 10 cores CPU

hollow thorn
lapis chasm
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I got mine for 99 cents RyukoGiggle

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Best Buy accidental 99.9% discount 🤣

naive pendant
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seems like the 10100, 10400/10400f & 10700k is the only decently priced CPUs on intel side rn

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10300 is still pricey
same for the 10600

pale mist
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I have a feeling that AMD will retire am4 in the next CPU anyway

naive pendant
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so very likely

slim nymph
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AMD already announced they're retiring am4

pale mist
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yay i was right

royal kernel
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when will th 3100 be in stock😭

naive pendant
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it's in stock

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but at 182+

mental bronze
naive pendant
mental bronze
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Ok thx

naive pendant
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but unlikely to be cheap though.

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at first.

mental bronze
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I want to get a pc but I’m already waiting for prices to drop back down to MSRP so I don’t want to wait too long to get it

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Another year is crossing the line

naive pendant
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ye...plus ddr5 ain't gonna be cheap on launch

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it's gonna be like what happened to ddr4
expensive on launch, cheap years later.

mental bronze
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If this is the case I’ll probably get a pc that’ll last me a few years, then upgrade to all the new stuff like AM5 or AM4+ or whatever it’s gonna be and DDR5 eventually

naive pendant
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is the 3600xt worth the extra 100-150 dollars than the 3600

pliant cypress
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no

naive pendant
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what about the x

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why is the x cheaper than the xt on amazon

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sorry opposite way

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xt cheaper than the x

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🤷

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ok

stoic rover
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would u rather have a r7 3700x or r5 5600x for gaming

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since im thinking about returning the 3700x for the 5600x?

pliant cypress
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5600x

stoic rover
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can it still multi task well?

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like i can have games, chrome, and stream

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or not really

pseudo stag
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I wouldn't downgrade in cores

hollow thorn
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I mean, I would for the performance

fresh plinth
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I just managed to get my hands on a 5600x, is the msi b550 tomahawk a good board?

tranquil silo
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yes

hollow thorn
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decent

fresh plinth
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Well im trying to stay on a budget

hollow thorn
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Yes

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that's the thing the tomahawk is bad at

fresh plinth
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Alright, well is there anything you would recommend for a budget B550 board?

hollow thorn
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B550m Aorus pro at 120$

fresh plinth
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Thanks

prisma nymph
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hmmmm now its a debate of whether or not i wait for the 5600
early 2021 is whats estimated from the leaks

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since the 3600 is OOS as well

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▶ Play video
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So its not impossible to get your hands on one now, its just gonna be easier later.

prisma nymph
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5600

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non-x

fresh plinth
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ohhhhhhhhh

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nvm

pliant cypress
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hmm I actually think they might not release a non x

prisma nymph
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there's leaks

pliant cypress
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because it might be the 3600 thing where no one buys the x or xt

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so just one verson of the 5600

worldly fable
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Just a question, what should I get: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X ATX, Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P, or Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO

clear sequoia
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Should I go with intel or amd im kinda confused which is better

wind karma
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whatever suits your needs and is cheaper

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on average intel has slightly higher clocks, amd has more cores

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so for gaming intel has traditionally been better, but in past years amd's pricing has been very competitive

clear sequoia
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What does more cores do?

slim nymph
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better for things that require multiple cores like video editing or rendering, or if you like to multitask like streaming while gaming

clear sequoia
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Does youtube count as multitasking? xd

slim nymph
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Yeah.

clear sequoia
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Ayyy

slim nymph
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It could if you do it with something else.

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So, think of it like this.

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I like to keep it simple.

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1 core for every 1 task

clear sequoia
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Hm ok

cedar leaf
clear sequoia
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I'm not gonna buy a cpu yet but I say up to 400 dollars

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Im trying to get a 3060 ti first since i have a gtx 650

slim nymph
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Most games nowadays are fancy and use 4 cores.

clear sequoia
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But for my cpu I have a intel i5

bronze bison
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yo

slim nymph
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So, if you like to game, 4 cores for gaming, 1 for windows, and 1 for everything else. So 6 core processor.
If you're a streamer, 4 cores for gaming, 1 for windows, 1 for streaming, and 1 for everything else. So you'd need 7, but you round up to 8.

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Yo.

bronze bison
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which should i go for

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32 gb ram 3200 mghz

clear sequoia
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Hm ok well thanks man

slim nymph
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these numbers do change.

bronze bison
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or 16 gb 3600 mghz

slim nymph
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Like back in the old days it was only 1 core for gaming 😄

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hmmm.

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Most processes nowadays only need 16 gb.

bronze bison
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oh yeah and i want to stream

slim nymph
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so 3600 is always nice.

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And if you do a 2x8 kit, you can always upgrade later on if you need it.

bronze bison
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yu right thanks bro

slim nymph
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no probs

cedar leaf
slim nymph
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a 400 budget could get you a 10700k

cedar leaf
slim nymph
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which is also nice.

cedar leaf
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But based off his needs

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Seems like he doesn't need too much

clear sequoia
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Wait wha?

slim nymph
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True.

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Then 5600

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3600 is nice, but 5600 is super nice!

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😄

cedar leaf
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👍

clear sequoia
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Im confused... can you guys use the full name? xd

slim nymph
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Ryzen 5 5600 processor

cedar leaf
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@clear sequoia Wait for Ryzen 5 5600 availability

clear sequoia
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Hm ok

cedar leaf
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It just released a couple of weeks ago so its fresh and SUPER powerful

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for a 6 core cpu

clear sequoia
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Is it better or worse then a i5-2500?

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I believe thats what I have

slim nymph
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tons better.

cedar leaf
clear sequoia
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Oh dang

cedar leaf
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You realize your running a dual core rn?

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@slim nymph That's a dual core right?

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Or is it quad?

slim nymph
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That's a quad core.

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That's old school.

cedar leaf
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Yeah its 4 just not hyperthreaded

clear sequoia
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Im gonna get a 3060 ti first then ill get the amd cpu

cedar leaf
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No

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Get the cpu first

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then the gpu

clear sequoia
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You sure?

cedar leaf
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yes

clear sequoia
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Why tho?

slim nymph
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I think it was 8th gen when intel made i5 into a 6 core processor

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gpu market is scuffed

cedar leaf
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A 3060ti will be running at 30 fps because it will be bottlenecked by the cpu

slim nymph
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Stock is just absolutely abysmal

clear sequoia
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Ohh ok

slim nymph
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that too.

cedar leaf
clear sequoia
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Also I wouldnt use it yet since im trying to get all the parts for a good build

slim nymph
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I like 9th gen intel and 10th gen intel.

cedar leaf
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Intel didn't have a need for 6 cores for consumers until AMD realesed teh 1600

slim nymph
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1600 was awesome on release.

cedar leaf
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So get all the parts first

slim nymph
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I had an FX 8350 then upgraded to a 2600 after they refined the 1600

cedar leaf
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Yep

clear sequoia
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I got a prebuilt around a couple months ago because I was dumb and didnt know how to make a pc thats why I have some outdated parts

cedar leaf
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Ah

slim nymph
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There are decent prebuilt companies.

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Just not dell

cedar leaf
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Yeah you've got a processor that was made in 2011 lmao

clear sequoia
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The good thing is that they gave me a full atx case with the pc

slim nymph
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anything but dell

clear sequoia
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And fans i can reuse

cedar leaf
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what fans are they

clear sequoia
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Uhh

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Idk

cedar leaf
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Yeah

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Make sure they are adequate for these high end parts that you are about to use

clear sequoia
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I might have to get a new cpu fan but I can use the other ones on the inside of the case maybe

storm spoke
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@gritty meadow @hollow thorn I fixed my flash bios issue, turns out the issue was my thumb drive

slim nymph
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Don't worry too much. If you have any questions, there's a huge pile of nerds here that are willing to help.

clear sequoia
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Yea :>

cedar leaf
clear sequoia
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Hm ok

cedar leaf
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Stock CPU cooler comes with the 5600

clear sequoia
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Niceee

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That'll save me some cash

gritty meadow
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@storm spoke good to hear

storm spoke
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Such a stupid fix, I hate technology sometimes lol

gritty meadow
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wrong partition type or?

cedar leaf
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That's they way the cookie crumbles lol

gritty meadow
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or just another "oh, btw, we dont bother telling you why this does not work" error/bug?

storm spoke
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No I tried a different flash drive for the bios fix

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...

gritty meadow
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so, the last one then :)

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it would be SO much simpler for consumers IF the manufacturers had a list of what the "beeps" actually meant :)

clear sequoia
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Wait so if I get the rysen 5 5600 what combo should I get?

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Since all i see in newegg are combos for it

cedar leaf
clear sequoia
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Oh ok xd

cedar leaf
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lol

clear sequoia
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Hopefully i can get a combo that has either ram or a motherboard

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Since my motherboard is kinda old too

cedar leaf
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Focus on RAM

clear sequoia
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I think it'll be compatible tho

cedar leaf
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You have to start from scratch

clear sequoia
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I have a intel b75

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Aw man

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That sucks

cedar leaf
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That's from 2011

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We are in 2020 bro

clear sequoia
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Yea makes sense though xd

cedar leaf
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And your buying an AMD system

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Not intel

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They don't share sockets

clear sequoia
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Aw

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Thats sucky

cedar leaf
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Every single thing has to be swapped

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execpt storage

clear sequoia
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Hm

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Alright

storm spoke
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I bought the 5600x paired with a tomahawk b550 msi

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Building it soon as I get my cpu tomorrow

clear sequoia
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Is there anyway i can select a lot of parts at once to email me when they are available?

cedar leaf
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Dang

clear sequoia
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Rip

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Anyone know when cpus are restocking?

cedar leaf
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In 20 years

clear sequoia
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I hope a bunch of them restock at once so I can it least get one

cedar leaf
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Give it until the end of January

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rn it's Christmas time

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So it's prime time for scalpers and bots

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so wait till after Christmas

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And then stock should begin to flow Q2 of 20201

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2021

clear sequoia
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Hopefully

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Well i gtg thanks for all the help

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Cya

cedar leaf
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Np

spare gyro
cedar leaf
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Dang

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That's so overkill unless you plop an i9 in there

spare gyro
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That’s an x570 board

cedar leaf
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Ohh

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I thought it was Z490

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They make more Crosshair Z490 that's why

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lol

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Ok then I don't see the point in that board unless you plan on ploping a Ryzen 7 3700x in there

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or better

gloomy spear
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ok so i am getting a 3800x soon and i didnt now that 5600xs are almost the same price maybe a $30 difference but i dont want to wait until they restock

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so i dont know what to do

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i am upgrading from an 15 9400f 1660ti to a ryzen 5600 or 3800 and a 3060ti

gritty meadow
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logical answer is this: make up your mind about willingness to wait or not.

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simple.

gloomy spear
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lol

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i was just wondering if the jump was worth it due to performance

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to wait a few weeks

gloomy spear
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aight thx

gritty meadow
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and it is not that i cannot give my personal opinion, but it ultimately relies on what i asked you earlier.

gloomy spear
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well tbh what is your personal opinion

gritty meadow
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that you make up your mind on your willingness to wait or not

devout fiber
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Bruh i got a bit of thermal paste on the edge of the motherboard

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I mean

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Processor

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And it got onto tbe side pins

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I cleaned it with paper towels, ethyl alcohol 70%, a toothbrush

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Did my cpu die :')

charred venture
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idk try it out

eager shore
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^

devout fiber
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Posted

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But will it like the consequences, like long term damage?

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Will anything be affected overtime?

gritty meadow
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if you have cleaned it? no

devout fiber
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Yeah but like yk, the tootbrush and all, and i had the really scrub some parts with the paper towel

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And like the brissles touching the pins

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Made me cringe the entier time

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Thought i was killing my new baby's processor

gritty meadow
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parts are both way more durable and way less durable than what people think

devout fiber
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I guess i know the less durable part, but wdym about the more durable than people think part?

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Dang, if this works i might probably exploit my experiences🤔

gritty meadow
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some people treat a ssd as if it is fragile

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but the hdd as if it is more durable

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when its the other way around

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you can use a ssd as a hammer and it will be fine

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its generally a case of people not having exposure to actual use of the parts, so they dont have any experience with that is actually okay to do with them

devout fiber
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Ohhhh

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I sewe

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Thanks everyone for the help

stray raptor
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@gritty meadow My GF got a ASUS TUF X570 and I noticed for hte MOBO power it has a 8 pin and a 4 pin. Do I need Both Connected or Just one of them cause her Power Supply only can do either the 4 or 8 pin but not both

gritty meadow
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skip the 4pin

stray raptor
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Ok

gritty meadow
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the 24pin and the EPS are the only ones actually needed

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EPS=8pin

stray raptor
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Ok I figured Id ask before I tried to Power Up the system

gritty meadow
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the extra 4pin is only if you are trying to melt the cpu

stray raptor
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Oh No Definatly Not doing that. She is getting my R5 2600X and She got me a R7-3700X

gritty meadow
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nice of her :)

stray raptor
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Right

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She doesnt need the CPU power Like I do

pastel monolith
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lots of people even suggest not to plug the 4-pin in even if you have the cord so it doesnt overheat the board lol

stray raptor
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But I cant Figure out why my BIOS isnt reading PCIe 4.0 on the current BIOS when the BIOS it came with stock showed PCIe 4.0 as a option

pastel monolith
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I think it is basically 4.0 capable but won't run in 4.0 unless you have a 4.0 device installed

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@gritty meadow might know more I dont have any pcie 4.0 motherboards

gritty meadow
pastel monolith
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think its still that ASUS TUF X570

gritty meadow
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nah, thats the GF's

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and he is talking about HIS board

pastel monolith
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looks like poor reading retention on the internets part

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"DO NOT connect the 4-pin power plug only, the motherboard may overheat under heavy usage.
Ensure to connect the 8-pin power plug, or both the 8-pin and 4-pin power plugs"

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just cant only use 4 pin and no 8 pin

gritty meadow
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"only" should have been in capital instead of the "do not"

pastel monolith
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lol yeah

gray pasture
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Hey, trying to figure out some conflicting information. PCPartspicker says that my MSI MPG X570 gaming edge wifi may need a bios update for the Ryzen 5000 series. The website for MSI's X570 says that it supports the 5000 series.

Is MSI being sly and leaving off "but you'll need a BIOS update first?"

tacit quest
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hi hi

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yes

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I uh

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need

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ram for a ryzen build

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looking for 8gb

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any suggestions

gray pasture
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I don't have an older CPU, so I'm trying to see if this MOBO is going to give me issues.

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ah, brb, sorry

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Sorry about that - kids got up.

ruby laurel
gray pasture
gritty meadow
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@gray pasture technically you cant

ruby laurel
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if it has a sticker on it saying 5000 ready

gritty meadow
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except, that sticker can and is, at times wrong

gray pasture
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hahahahaha, well, would I be doing anything horrible if I tried to power it on without flashing to see what happened?

gritty meadow
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no

ruby laurel
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nope

gritty meadow
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no harm in that

ruby laurel
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u will be fine

gray pasture
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If it turns out that I need to update the BIOS, since I don't have an older CPU, do you know if a USB will work without disassembling all the components I've plugged in?

gritty meadow
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and you have a flash bios button

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so you can update with just a usb stick

clear sequoia
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with a Rysen 5 6000k could you run vr?

gray pasture
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Awesome, alright. Thank you - you all made me feel so much better. I was trying to build this all throughout the day between work tasks, and getting increasingly nervous that something was going to pop.

gritty meadow
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@gray pasture page 45 of the manual

hollow thorn
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X570 gaming edge wifi isn't a great board, but at least it has bios flashback, which is great.

gray pasture
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Yeah, I'm just looking for sufficient. Bummer that I need an adaptor to make the front panel USB-C connect, but I got it on sale, so I'll take it, you know?

gritty meadow
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aye aye

blissful dragon
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is the rog strix x570e and 5950x a good pairing?

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im just a little worried about the vrms

pale mist
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@blissful dragon generally ROG boards are great for overcloking and it looks good

clear sequoia
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should I get this when its in stock and just buy the other stick of ram with it?

pale mist
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Yeah, that’s probably a smart thing to do. Dual channel is a MUST on ryzen

hollow thorn
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honestly

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I'd just get a better kit of ram

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and ditch that stick

ruby laurel
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Yeah sell the stick lol

main pulsar
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oloy isnt a bad brand, but its questionable at best

ruby laurel
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^^

hollow thorn
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it's just

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single stick of 8gb 3200c16

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I'd just grab a 2x8 3600c16 kit

ruby laurel
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3600

gritty meadow
main pulsar
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im sure it would be fine running xmp, but overclocking might not happen

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look at the dimm once you get it, copy the model number into google, see what you can order with the same model number

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or just sell on ebay

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up to you

ruby laurel
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Dont even open it and sell it imo

clear sequoia
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hmmmm

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I'm a bit confused but i think I'm either just gonna find a different combo or find a cheap good kit of ram to buy with the cpu

stray raptor
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@gritty meadow Yeah Gigabyte B450 AORUS M

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Sorry I was away from my PC for a little bit

gritty meadow
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yeah, that does not have native pci-e 4.0 support

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so any mention of that in the bios is just gigabyte derping about @stray raptor

clear sequoia
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should I try and buy this then?

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the ram ^

blissful dragon
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the ram doesnt seem bad

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actually seems good if youd want to upgrade your ram you have already

main pulsar
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ram looks dumb, its gonna interfere with larger air coolers

blissful dragon
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oloy has those problems lol

main pulsar
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4000mt/s ram isnt confirmed to work well with zen 3 either, that agesa update is supposed to come sometime like next year

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amd says FCLK will run at 2000 on Zen 3 in the future, but we dont really believe them

blissful dragon
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amd says that 3600mhz is the optimal spot for ram, but however you want to play with that is up to you

main pulsar
#

worst comes to worst, you downclock the ram for the time being

blissful dragon
#

the only issue is price to performance if price is a concern

clear sequoia
#

this is the only other good one I see

main pulsar
#

thats better

blissful dragon
#

thats shorter too

#

more clearance lmao

clear sequoia
#

lol

#

so should I go for that one?

blissful dragon
#

I think it looks good

#

if you dont mind white ram

clear sequoia
#

yea its alright

blissful dragon
#

what are the timings of the ram just out of curiosity?

clear sequoia
#

lemme see

#

bruh i dont even think it says the timings

blissful dragon
#

CL16

#

not bad not bad

clear sequoia
#

oh thats the speed?

blissful dragon
#

in a general sense its the time between actions

clear sequoia
#

hm

stray raptor
#

@gritty meadow My Motherboard Does Support it according to the Manufacturer website

clear sequoia
#

ok welp I'll save it and auto notify myself when it goes on sale

blissful dragon
#

sounds good

clear sequoia
#

I bought a dumb prebuilt that cost a lot and had old parts so I'm just starting fresh

blissful dragon
#

hey me too

#

well a 7700 isnt that old but

#

potato potato

clear sequoia
#

in my prebuilt I have a core i5 and a Nvidia Gtx 650

gritty meadow
#

@stray raptor no, it does not

clear sequoia
#

only 1 stick of ram

#

a B75 motherboard

#

and some very loud fans xd

stray raptor
#

@gritty meadow Im gonna check But it stated only with a compatible Motherboard

gritty meadow
#

from the page for your board

stray raptor
#

WTF

gritty meadow
#

it does not matter one single bit

stray raptor
#

THen Why the hell did the original BIOS state that it had 4.0 support

hollow thorn
#

Mobo manufacturers were dumb on Zen 2 beta bioses

gritty meadow
#

because Gigabyte was derping about, as i said earlier

hollow thorn
#

Iirc a good few of them got supposed pcie 4.0 support

gritty meadow
#

aye

#

which amd THANKFULLY enforced with AGESA changes

#

because i do NOT want to think of the clusterhump that would have been "random-ish" pci-e 4.0 support

stray raptor
#

So Would the BIOS Update for the 5000 Series that should be launched for my MOBO Next Month Enable the 4.0 capability

#

Just wondering

gritty meadow
#

no

hollow thorn
#

The limitation is hardware

#

Not software

#

You can't exactly make traces on a motherboard higher performance to run a faster protocol.

stray raptor
#

Oh So Upgrading to the R7 3700X wasnt worth it then

hollow thorn
#

Not for PCIe 4.0, but for performance it was likely a good choice

stray raptor
#

I have noticed a Major Performance Increase thats for sure

#

Now I cant get my GF System to read the Hard Drive that booted on her old motherboard

gritty meadow
#

sata or m.2?

stray raptor
#

SATA

gritty meadow
#

tried a different port?

stray raptor
#

It reads the Drive but says its not Bootable

gritty meadow
#

did her old system have 2 drives?

stray raptor
#

No

#

Only the 1 500gb HDD

gritty meadow
#

windows usb stick, only sane way

stray raptor
#

I mean we are getting a 500gb NVMe drive on friday for it

#

What do I have to do just reinstall windows

#

Or Refresh Windows

gritty meadow
#

you can try and run a repair from it

stray raptor
#

ok

#

Hopefully the windows usb disk I have will fix it cause i did just update the system to 20H2

prime echo
#

Im curious, but how come Newegg Canada doesnt carry the HYperX Fury RGB memory modules?

prime echo
#

Thats not the RGB version.

slim nymph
#

Oh.

#

weird

prime echo
prime echo
#

Yeah those. But those arent in a 4X8 kit >-<

#

The speed is right though.

slim nymph
#

just buy 2 kits

prime echo
#

The seller has extremely questionable ratings. 45% positive.

slim nymph
#

as long as the timings are the same, and frequecies are the same it'll work.

#

ooh

#

yeah

#

even the us one isn't great

prime echo
#

:/ I hope NewEgg Canada gets good stock of those kits.

#

My next choice is GSkill Neo. But eh

#

But there are these which I could go for.

slim nymph
#

true!

prime echo
#

Prices sure suck for a 3700X, a Rog Strix B550-E Gaming, and 2 of those memory kits.

🤣

slim nymph
#

oof

prime echo
#

Msi B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi is so much cheaper then Asus' b550. lol

slim nymph
#

oh yeah.

prime echo
#

I can shave off 70 bucks. :P

slim nymph
#

ooh!

#

Big saving!

prime echo
#

Yeah. I shaved off 23 more by getting rid of the protection plan on it.

#

Tis what MSI's warranty service would be for.

#

Got it down to 1,183.03 dollars. Whew.

#

Its too bad there wasnt an option to ship everything in one order when all the parts were in. So everything would arrive here in a single box.

slim nymph
#

one box is always nice.

#

I'm still waiting for newegg to ship my powersupply

#

then I'll be living in luxury.

prime echo
#

Im converting my Intel system over to AMD, for better rendering and stuff. lol

#

Ive ordered the same parts from amazon on November 24th, and they still havent arrived yet. And parts were delayed 4 times now, might end up getting a refund.

slim nymph
#

computer parts are rough

prime echo
#

Ill order from NewEgg then, since I dunno if Purolator is experience delays to.

#

Computer parts are even more rough when your Canadian XD

#

Ive been wanting to get a new GPU to, but it looks like unless NewEgg opens up backorders, I might not be getting one till 2022.

naive pendant
#

how many case fan headers does the x570 taichi have

slim nymph
#

4 I think

clear sequoia
#

anyone know what motherboard works with the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X? I haven't found anything that's actually compatible

#

it says warning when ever I put pretty much any motherboard I find with it

gritty meadow
#

because it depends on the age of the stock

#

but any b550 and any x570 will work IF the right bios is present

clear sequoia
#

whats bios? xd

naive pendant
#

it's something that allows system initialisation when booting

clear sequoia
#

so would I have to download it off the internet when I buy it or?

naive pendant
#

you have to check if your mb has the bios you need to boot up a system with a 5xxx cpu

clear sequoia
#

hmmm

#

ok

#

lemme see

naive pendant
#

it usually says 5th gen compatible or sumthing like that

#

on the box or the website

naive pendant
clear sequoia
#

yeaa

naive pendant
#

click on that

clear sequoia
#

hm? oh ok

naive pendant
#

and you can follow the steps

#

or you could contact the seller

#

to double check compatibility

clear sequoia
#

this is what it supports

#

I dont think the Ryzen 5 5600x is there

#

unless its renamed there

#

OH NVM

naive pendant
#

these are sockets

#

cpu sockets

clear sequoia
#

yeaaaa

#

for the board

naive pendant
#

that's right

clear sequoia
#

I clicked on one and it said everything

#

lemme see

naive pendant
#

ight

clear sequoia
#

yea my cpu isn't in it

#

time to keep lookin

naive pendant
#

well it does say you can flash your bios for it to be compatible with your cpu

clear sequoia
#

flash?

naive pendant
#

d'you read this ?

#

for the gaming 4S

clear sequoia
#

yea but it doesnt have my cpu on the list

naive pendant
#

where's the list ?

clear sequoia
#

lemme find the board again

#

that

#

I dont see any part that actually says my cpu

#

it says Ryzen 5 3600XT but not the Ryzen 5 5600X

naive pendant
#

5600X = AM4 Socket

clear sequoia
#

oh

#

I didn't see that

#

lemme check again

#

oh yea

#

I'm blind xd

naive pendant
#

all cool 🙂

clear sequoia
#

so all in all it would be compatible with the cpu?

naive pendant
#

should be

#

you could contact the retailer to double check

#

but if you flash the bios correctly following the steps in the pdf file you should be fine

clear sequoia
#

hm ok

#

well thanks for all your help 😎

elfin warren
#

Any X570 board will support Ryzen 5000

#

Might need a BIOS update first though

clear sequoia
#

yea

#

ok

#

welp on to the other stuff

#

I already have some parts since I'm gonna use my old pc with my new one I'm making

#

aka the storage, case, and some others

naive pendant
#

what's up

clear sequoia
#

hey uh is there anyway to see the name of the case on the case?

naive pendant
#

to physically see the name of the case on it ?

clear sequoia
#

yea

#

I kinda wanted to see if my case would be compatible

#

it should though since its an ATX case

naive pendant
#

you want to know if your case is compatible ??

clear sequoia
#

yea

naive pendant
#

what's your case and motherboard ?

clear sequoia
#

idk xd

#

all I know is that I have a B75 motherboard

naive pendant
#

o well, i'm assuming you're getting a Gaming 4S

clear sequoia
#

mhm

#

here lemme send a pic

naive pendant
#

well, what are you changing in your system

#

the motherboard

clear sequoia
#

motherboard, gpu, cpu, fans maybe and thats it

naive pendant
#

i would say you should first determine your new motherboard

#

and you should also send me the name of your case

clear sequoia
naive pendant
#

then we'll see if they're compatible

clear sequoia
#

Idk the name of the case i got messed over by getting a pre built

naive pendant
#

gotchu

#

looks like a full sized one

clear sequoia
#

Yea

naive pendant
#

so ATX and M-ATX would be compatible

clear sequoia
#

Mhm

#

Lemme see the motherboard then

naive pendant
#

alright

clear sequoia
#

Yea

#

It says atx motherboard

#

So it should be alright

#

And if its not welp i guess I'll buy a new case then sell tbe one I have rn

#

When I get the motherboard

stuck basin
#

So I have a TUF X570 and i hate it, have way too many issues w it so im swapping out and ive got like a $550 budget for motherboards so im trying to narrow down between a few options

#

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master WiFi

spare gyro
stuck basin
#

I need something that's got a lot of fan headers. at least 4 or 5

#

if it's got them then im sold lol

elfin warren
#

Just get a PWM fan controller/splitter? They're about $10

stuck basin
#

almost everything I have is wired together. I have 9 fans in my case and about 6 of them are in a controller

clear sequoia
#

yeeesh

#

why do you have so many fans? xd

fallen lynx
#

probably 011 dynamic with all the fans

eager shore
#

lmao

eager shore
#

that mobo is normally like 90 bucks

#

if you plan on spending that much, get the b550m aorus pro

#

if you plan on getting a cheap-decent board, get the b550 phantom gaming 4

deft inlet
#

B550M AORUS PRO does not really say much about the m.2 slots i have no ideal what are the speeds 32/64 GB ?

#

@eager shore

hollow thorn
#

@M4 Sherman#8988 M.2_1 is PCIe 4.0 x4
M.2_2 is pcie 3.0 x4

#

HMMM

deft inlet
#

speeds though

hollow thorn
#

What's with my pings today

#

Speeds depend on the drive

short hedge
#

does anyone know if an i5-9400f is compatible with this?

#

MSI B460M-A PRO ProSeries Motherboard (mATX, 10th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1200 Socket, DDR4, M.2 Slot, USB 3.2 Gen 1, 2.5G LAN, DVI/HDMI)

hollow thorn
#

No

#

9400f is a lga1151 chip

short hedge
#

ah ok ok

deft inlet
hollow thorn
#

The protocol is the limit, so pcie 4.0x4 allows up to ~8GB/s

#

Pcie 3.0x4 allows up to around ~4GB/s

deft inlet
#

Express module up to Gen4x4 (64Gb/s) (with Matisse) or Gen3x4 (32Gb/s) (with Renoir)**

#

confused you said 4 ?

hollow thorn
#

Notice the GB/s for gigaBYTES per second
Vs Gb/s for gigaBITS per second

#

8 bits in a byte

deft inlet
#

4GB/s is how many Gb/s

hollow thorn
#

4*8=32

deft inlet
#

oh ok

#

i get it

#

ty

#

i am building my first computer so yea

hollow thorn
#

Would've been an interesting discussion if you didn't xD

#

Ok

tranquil silo
hollow thorn
#

me too

thorny gate
#

anyone know if u can take a x370 motherboard out and swap it with a b550 without wipinbg the whole pc?

hollow thorn
#

wdym

#

@thorny gate as in reinstall windows..?

thorny gate
#

yea dont wanna wipe if i dont have to

#

finally got my strix b550-f in today

hollow thorn
#

It's suggested you do because windows gets screwy with activation when you swap mobo, since I believe they tie the license to the mobo

gritty meadow
#

its tied to different "parts" of the system

#

and since the mainboard is a LOT of different parts ...

thorny gate
#

i wont lose my windows huh?

fallen lynx
#

it CAN be done, its just a big hassle

gritty meadow
#

migrate your key to a online microsoft account

#

and it wont be a problem

fallen lynx
#

win10 handles a MB swap fairly well now a days compared to past versions

thorny gate
#

yea i use a microsoft account

fallen lynx
#

not counting activation

thorny gate
#

i sign in through email

gritty meadow
#

then things normally just work @thorny gate

thorny gate
#

o ok thanks

gritty meadow
#

but as always, have a windows install usb stick ready

#

in case it just acts up like crazy :)

hollow thorn
#

Well, they're at very different price points

#

@forest niche what are you looking for in the motherboard, and what are you going to use it for?

forest niche
#

Gaming, playing minecraft

#

I have a asus tuf 3080 non overclocked

hollow thorn
#

what cpu

forest niche
#

and intel core i7 10700K

hollow thorn
#

@forest niche and what kind of IO are you looking for, and do you need wifi?

forest niche
#

idk what IO means

#

i dont care wheter i have wifi or not

hollow thorn
#

I/O as in input/output, mainly all the ports on the back of the motherboard, USB ports, ethernet port, audio jacks, etc.

forest niche
#

um

hollow thorn
#

So if you're looking to plug in 10 usb drives, that's one consideration

forest niche
#

at least 3 usb

hollow thorn
pliant cypress
#

I've seen aorus boards having a good amount of usb 3.0+ and 2.0 ports

hollow thorn
#

Good VRMs if you ever want to look into OCing your 10700k

#

it's a bit scarce in terms of IO, but still 5 usb type a ports

forest niche
#

ok

hoary cedar
#

I need help getting my RAM to run at the rated speed

elfin warren
#

AMD, use DOCP. Intel, use XMP

hollow thorn
#

fair

hoary cedar
#

I have a single DDR4-2133 16GB G.Skill stick

elfin warren
#

oh

hoary cedar
elfin warren
#

you really should have 2 sticks

hoary cedar
#

And only using 1/2 channels

elfin warren
#

Single channel performance is gross

hollow thorn
#

interesting

#

why only single stick?

elfin warren
#

What motherboard

pliant cypress
#

that says 3200mhz

hoary cedar
#

I had no idea what I was doing when I built this PC like three years ago 😅

#

msi B250 PC MATE

#

Model is MSI MS-7A72

elfin warren
#

Need to go into the board BIOS and look for the XMP setting

hoary cedar
#

It's on yeah

elfin warren
#

And really try to get two sticks.

#

Well, XMP may be on but is the correct profile selected?

hoary cedar
#

Not really sure what I'm doing lol. I enabled Memory Try It! stage 1 earlier today to see if it made a difference. It was off before tho.

elfin warren
#

The line above that

#

DRAM FREQUENCY

#

Should be some options there

hoary cedar
#

I also changed DRAM Frequency from the default 1066 to the max 2133

elfin warren
#

Then it's fine

hoary cedar
#

There's two new options that are slightly higher.

elfin warren
#

There ya go

#

Sometimes you have to enable XMP, save and restart to see all the options

hoary cedar
#

Should I select a higher Memory Try It stage?

elfin warren
#

Let me read the manual and see what that does

hoary cedar
#

There's 1, 2, 3, or Off.

elfin warren
#

I would just select the profile you want and then turn that off

#

If it takes away the profile you want, turn it on. The description is very generic and....odd

hoary cedar
#

I turned it off the the freq reset back. I've set it back to 2400 now

elfin warren
#

K, save and restart then go back into the BIOS and make sure the settings stuck

hoary cedar
#

brb for 30 min

#

Will do when I get back, thanks

#

Isn't 2400MHz not 3200MHz tho?

elfin warren
#

Fastest your board supports is 2400 from what I've read

#

Is it a 3200mhz stick?

#

If you have a 7th Gen INtel, fastest you can go is 2400 MHZ

#

H270/ B250 chipset + 7th Gen processors support DDR4
2400/ 2133 MHz*

#

If it's a 3200mhz stick, the BIOS is just reading the XMP profile and displaying it, doesn't mean it will go that fast

sick lodge
#

should i upgrade to a set of G.Skill ripjaws 2x16 memory or should i just get another 2x8 Vengeance LPX kit?

#

opinions?

slim nymph
#

how many sticks you got now?

elfin warren
#

If you only have 1 stick now and only have 2 slots, 16 GB of ram will do you just fine

#

Ah, board has 4 slots

#

but you don't want 3 sticks

#

So you'd remove the current stick OR get another single stick to match

#

Getting another single is probably the best idea

#

Then it's plug and play with no setup or BIOS changes needed

prime echo
#

Oh wow, my HyperX memory is in from Amazon finally O_o

#

Now to wait on my 3700X and B550 <3

blissful dragon
#

really quick question

#

I got a 5950x from an amazon drop

#

kinda waiting for it to ship

#

any thoughts on when it might?

#

say... 1 or 2 days?

#

granted I bought the item at like 2am (this morning)

tranquil silo
#

just relax

#

and celebrate lol

blissful dragon
#

that is very true

hoary cedar
elfin warren
#

That's 2133. However, I'd recommend checking CPU-Z also

#

It will give you more useful information

hoary cedar
#

Oh right because half.

elfin warren
#

Ye

tranquil silo
#

they dont call it double data rate for no reason

hoary cedar
#

So the highest I can go is 1200MHz

elfin warren
#

Ye

hoary cedar
#

Well I went to the BIOS before I got to check CPU-Z. I'm trying memory try it stage 3 in case that does anything.

#

The 2400MHz setting did in fact save but it doesn't appear to be running my RAM at said speed.

#

Though it should set it to 1200, no?

tranquil silo
#

use memtest with memtesthelper if you're OCing. idk if you are or not

hoary cedar
elfin warren
#

mmhmmm

hoary cedar
#

Is it finally running at the speed it should be?

elfin warren
#

That's what it should be

#

Yes

hoary cedar
#

s w e e t

#

I'm not OCing past rated speeds.

elfin warren
#

No

#

If it's a 3200mhz stick, you're under it

hoary cedar
#

I just want to play half life alyx at higher than 30fps ;_;

elfin warren
#

Eh

#

what GPU?

hoary cedar
#

It's in my nick.

elfin warren
#

Oh

#

I see

#

HOnestly

hoary cedar
#

CPU is 7700 (non k)

elfin warren
#

your ram clock won't help

#

Adding another stick for dual channel will do WAY MORE than a couple hundred MHZ on ram speed

hoary cedar
#

All supersampling is off, I've set the process priority of vrcompositor, the game, and oculus to realtime...

elfin warren
#

What we just did here isn't going to do hardly anything

hoary cedar
#

Still HLA requires SteamVR. Any other games I've been able to bypass SteamVR using OpenComposite and they run locked at max. But HLA requires SteamVR and thus runs like garbage

#

yeah I just wanted to make sure the RAM was running the best it could until I can upgrade.

elfin warren
#

👍

hoary cedar
#

Where should I ask about optimizing game performance? #gaming ?

elfin warren
#

That's a good spot

#

For VR

hoary cedar
#

Alright thanks for the help. 🤞

tranquil silo
#

prolly get a 16GB kit for $60

hoary cedar
#

Newegg sadly doesn't seem to like the fact I moved to France earlier this year

tranquil silo
#

use a different site to buy stuff lol

hoary cedar
#

I dislike french shopping sites.

#

Got scammed buying a hard drive last month.

#

But eh I'll have to get used to it

azure cave
#

best bang for the buck mini itx motherboard that supports am4 and has wifi

slim nymph
#

I have never replaced the thermal paste on my PC

#

Is this why it's on fire?

solar stratus
#

What's the best $200-250 x570 mobo for ryzen 5000

elfin warren
#

How old is it?

solar stratus
#

Specifically the 5800x

slim nymph
#

3 years! :D

#

I was lazy :P

solar stratus
#

My thermal pasta is 2 years old and Temps are still decent so idk what happened to your pc in the year between when they were made @slim nymph

elfin warren
#

NOt lazy, it's fine

#

That person was trolling hard

slim nymph
#

That guy in general chat?

elfin warren
#

ye

slim nymph
#

But yeah, I keep forgetting to replace my thermal paste frequently!

elfin warren
#

You don't really need to.....

solar stratus
#

@elfin warren ru familiar with am4?

elfin warren
#

ye

#

Mobo Question?

#

X570 TUF GAming WiFI

#

best bang for the buck

#

and under your budget

slim nymph
#

You should though! Thermal paste can dry out.

solar stratus
#

That's what I figured.

elfin warren
#

I has one

#

It's awesome

slim nymph
#

Asus Tuf series is dope

late pine
#

thermal paste lasts like 6 years at least

solar stratus
#

Would taking looks into account change that opinion?

elfin warren
#

That^^^^

#

Looks are subjective

#

Recommending something based purely on looks isn't always a great idea

slim nymph
#

I used preapplied thermal paste, so who knows how crusty it got.

solar stratus
#

I'm going for a black build with rgb

#

And silver accents

elfin warren
#

Ok

#

The TUF has those

slim nymph
#

You can paint over yellows

solar stratus
#

Sounds like that's my choice then

slim nymph
#

Or sharpie

solar stratus
#

I was on the fence because the x570 taichi has good reviews

elfin warren
late pine
#

I'm using my pre-applied thermal paste with kraken x63 and it works fine

slim nymph
#

X570 taichi is on sale rn

solar stratus
#

Where

elfin warren
#

It has a tad bit of RGB too

slim nymph
#

Newegg

#

Check hot deals channel

solar stratus
#

Ok

elfin warren
#

$270

slim nymph
#

It's a solid board for OCing

elfin warren
#

The TUF will do all that for $190 though

#

I'm 4.6 GHZ all core 3700X on mine

slim nymph
#

But tuf gaming doesn't have a post code.

solar stratus
#

I have a tuf x470 gaming plus rn

elfin warren
#

WDYM

slim nymph
#

And that makes life so much easier!

solar stratus
#

But I'm building a new pc so

elfin warren
#

use a speaker

#

they're like $.50

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plug into mobo header

late pine
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^

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unless you are overclocking on a regular basis a post code probably isn't worth the cost premium

elfin warren
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At this point, it's all about looks, so that would be your choice

solar stratus
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Probably either Tuf x570 or Taichi then depending on sales and if I get a bonus

slim nymph
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If I wanted to hear my computer dying, I would cover the gpu in thermal paste.

elfin warren
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Whatever you feel would fit your build better

slim nymph
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Yeah.

solar stratus
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Aorus was also in the running

slim nymph
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Asus tuf is still a solid mobo

elfin warren
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THe Aorus had VRM heat issues if I remember right

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It was them or MSI, can't remember for sure

slim nymph
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I just like the taichi because it is also a solid mobo.

elfin warren
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It's just fine except the price

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I feel $270 for what you get is a bit too much compared to others

solar stratus
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Ok. Thanks for your help!

elfin warren
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YW

solar stratus
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I'm building in an o11 dynamic black with the newest lian li fans

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It's gonna be sick

slim nymph
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Honestly

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Only do the taichi if you are REALLY into overclocking.

solar stratus
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I do want to oc it as far as it can go

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Cuz its gonna be for CAD work as well as gaming

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And of course I gotta benchmark it too

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Make those scores look good

elfin warren
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Yeah, TUF OC's just fine

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So will the Taichi

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comes down to money and looks

slim nymph
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Yeah, tuf OCs fine.

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They're both solid boards for OCing

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Taichi is just cleaner looking and I like post codes.

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Actually wait

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TUF CHOOSE TUF

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Asrock bios is bad

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It hurts just thinking about it.

solar stratus
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Lmao

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Tuf bios is so easy to use

slim nymph
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Yeah!

solar stratus
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I have a tuf x470 and a 2600x rn

slim nymph
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I use a lot of strix boards.

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I was thinking of finally using a maximus board.

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But is it really worth it?

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I don't think so :D

prisma nymph
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aorus gang

fallen lynx
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all that is is branding anyway

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to make you think its special

violet zealot
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Marketing marketing marketing

restive crest
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WHY is everyone gettimg strix boards its actually, not pissing me off but its freaking me out way to much

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i see it LITERALLY EVERY WHERE

hollow thorn
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what

restive crest
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about people flexing on these strix boards but there are better boards

hollow thorn
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I haven't seen a strix board in a bit

restive crest
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.> lucky jayztwomad

hollow thorn
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When I do I swap it for something else in a list :P

quick fiber
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whats a good motherboard for a i7 9700k thats micro ATX?

slim thistle
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X570s are pointless for 99% of ppl

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Just get a b550

elfin warren
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3600 CL16

prisma nymph
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i thought the 0.11 difference in speed would be made up for in the performance the cpu would gain from higher freq

elfin warren
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Lower timings are almost always better

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Plus with Ryzen you need to sync the Fclock and Ram speed

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RIght now FLOCK won't work at 2000

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ANd no guarantees it will be able to in the near future

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It's still an overclock for FLOCK so stick with the lower timing 3600 mhz

languid pine
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not really got 32 gigs of Corsair vengeance rgb pro for 94

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a while ago

lean warren
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these are cl 16

languid pine
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3600 speed

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then depends

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corsair tends to be cheaper for ram

prisma nymph
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what

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since when lmao

lean warren
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yea corsair doesn't offer 16gig dimms at 3600 with a cl of 16

prisma nymph
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corsair be mega expensive

languid pine
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not when i bought but it is back and forth

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you never know

marble hare
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yo so i just installed my ram