#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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gritty meadow
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by going the usb route, you have a updated install file

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which will save you a LOT of time updating it after install

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and yes. there is a very brief guide on the website

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@naive pendant wrong.

neat perch
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Great!

gritty meadow
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@naive pendant media tool creation, etc etc

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@neat perch the requirements for you are the following:

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a usb stick that is 8gig or bigger.

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anything on it, will be deleted. be VERY aware of this

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you must be on a windows desktop to download and run the tool i linked you to

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it will NOT work on a mac or a linux desktop

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i believe that is all you really need to know :)

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for now at least :)

neat perch
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No problem. MACs give us so much headache at the Uni and I try to avoid them in what I do if at all possible. Linux, of course, is a different problem.

gritty meadow
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:)

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indeed

neat perch
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You've been so helpful, so now, last question? Where in the world are you?

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome, also to asking more questions :)

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i am located in Denmark

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but i work with people around the world, hence me even being up now

neat perch
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My guess was close! I working with someone from Sweden some time ago, and your name seemed to be from that general area.

gritty meadow
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close enough :)

neat perch
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I wrote a book with a gentleman from Stockholm. You are kind to say so!

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I think I have what I need for now, unless you can think of something else I should be looking at?????

gritty meadow
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well, swedish IS just across the small sea between us, and i am located in a coastal city :)

neat perch
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Good man!

gritty meadow
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no, you seem to have all the parts you need.

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just when you do assemble the machine. Lean on your mainboard manual very hard

neat perch
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Thanks, to all. I'll sign off then and order, and see what happens.

gritty meadow
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it has all the info you should need for connectors and so on

neat perch
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Oh, I'm someone that reads everything in a manual before I try anything. I wish I knew everything ahead of time, but even with all my years, it doesn't happen.

gritty meadow
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and you are very welcome :)

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:) that is the beauty of life in a nutshell :)

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best of luck with your new machine @neat perch

pastel lichen
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Isn't this channel named "cpus-mobo-and-memory" and not "i-want-to-know-about-your-personal-lives"?

gritty meadow
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try and smile @pastel lichen you might stretch some muscles you didnt know about :)

neat perch
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Sorry. I didn't know that a simple query about where someone might be was getting personal. Won't happen again. I'll just be cold and simple in the future. Thanks for letting me know.

gritty meadow
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@neat perch you did nothing wrong :)

neat perch
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To me, sometimes a little humanity helps with the communication.

gritty meadow
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very much so :)

pastel lichen
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@naive pendant I didn't solicit your opinion on that either. Take it to the channel named "i-don't-care-about-your-opinions"

neat perch
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Oh, sounds a little like Vorionus got personal.

gritty meadow
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all trolls do :)

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comes with living under a bridge i think

neat perch
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I'm gone. I teach Philosophy and Critical Thinking, so I see others for what they are.

pastel lichen
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@neat perch "I wrote a book with a gentleman from Stockholm." Unless you think this is a library?

gritty meadow
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best of luck, once again @neat perch thank you for the visit

neat perch
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Thank you Naed, and chimpanzee, and Vorionus.

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Bye.

gritty meadow
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@pastel lichen really? you really have to lean on personal attacks?

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those are very much against the rules we actually have here.

pastel lichen
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Yeah, really, pal. Take it elsewhere. Find a room.

pastel lichen
gritty meadow
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I see no need for butting into a conversation that was started and ended as a help to someone asking for help. With comments that bring nothing to the conversation.

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if you have a problem with that, there are moderators you can complain to.

pastel lichen
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I did. Deal with it, just like I dealt with your personal drivel that I don't need to read about, CPU. You can have the last word - I permit it.

prisma nymph
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i haven't been this entertained for awhile

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its like watching a suspenseful show

wheat merlin
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Just finished installing my first cpu

late pine
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congrats

wheat merlin
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Indeed

naive aspen
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The lights on the motherboard turn off in less than a second after turning on the power supply

glad lodge
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Questiok on buying memory is it better to buy 4x8 than 16x2 or it should have the same performance?

green terrace
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Depends on your motherboard

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As far as I know, you won’t see much difference

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16x2 sticks are cheaper

glad lodge
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Yea. Because gamer nexus did a review

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He said 4 sticks is better

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But he used 4x8 and 2x8

green terrace
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Right. That had more to do with dual sided or single sided memory

glad lodge
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So thats 32gb vs 16gb

green terrace
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Dual rank/single rank

glad lodge
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Yea

green terrace
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16x2 is dual rank 99% of the time

glad lodge
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So if let say i get 2x16 which is dual rank it should be equivalent to 4x8 single rank?

green terrace
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There was a certain type of motherboard that preferred single rank but I don’t remember

glad lodge
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On his review he used 2x8 single rank vs 4x8 single rank right?

green terrace
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Correct

glad lodge
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Im planning to buy Asus rog dark hero VIiI

green terrace
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Nice board. Expensive.

glad lodge
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To pair it with the tridentz 16x2.

grizzled garden
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16 sticks of 2GB 😳

glad lodge
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So just get 2x16? Its like 50 dollars cheper than 4x8?

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2 sticks of 16

late pine
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😳

green terrace
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I would

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Yes

grizzled garden
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Yeah, apparently more sticks = pricier if you're gonna use same RAM amount + same speed

glad lodge
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Ahh

green terrace
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Plus you can upgrade later

glad lodge
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Im looking at this

green terrace
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Or go sff

late pine
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I mean it makes sense, there are fixed costs such as the pcb and heat spreader

grizzled garden
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Yeah

glad lodge
grizzled garden
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Using up more supplies to make each individual RAM stick

green terrace
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Think beyond the material

glad lodge
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Compare to that one

late pine
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emotional cost of additional sticks

grizzled garden
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But with lesser sticks and more on each, just gotta slap more on lesser sticks

green terrace
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They have to test 2 sticks instead of 4

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That labor cost is huge

glad lodge
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So what do you think on the 2 links i sent?

grizzled garden
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If you wanna fill up all 4 dimm slots, go ahead lmao

glad lodge
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Better to just get the 2x16 right cheaper?

green terrace
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Yeah basically the only reason to fill all 4 is for aesthetics

late pine
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those are both super expensive

glad lodge
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179 for 2x16. Vs 219 for 4x8

late pine
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I picked up 2x 32 gb for $170 on sale from newegg

grizzled garden
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I've gotten my RAM for 110$, albiet non RGB

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Damn

green terrace
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G.skill rgb is pricey right now. I’d wait for a sale.

grizzled garden
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That's a lot when comparing same speed + amount

late pine
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it's 200 now tho

glad lodge
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Yea i will wait a bit til o get the motherbord

green terrace
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I hate when people overspend on ram instead of buying a better cpu

late pine
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but still

grizzled garden
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I guess RAM is just becoming more expensive cause lol

green terrace
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Not saying you are, but it’s common

late pine
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like you will notice double capacity more than a 1-3% speed increase

glad lodge
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I want rgb ad tridentz

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I want the looks of gskill trident

late pine
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I guess if you want rgb that is a personal decision

grizzled garden
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Eh, that's fine

green terrace
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Consider adata xpg

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I’m looking at that for Black Friday

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Newegg has a deal

glad lodge
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So just get the first link i sent? Just wait for the sale

grizzled garden
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If you're not gonna get it now, just check the price once in a while @glad lodge see whether it lowers

glad lodge
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What is adata xpg

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Yeah, i will get the ram once i order the Mobo

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Okah thank you

green terrace
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My Newegg app isn’t working but it’s ADATA Spectrix d50

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For Black Friday Newegg is selling 32gb 3600 CL18 for 120 with a $20 promo card

glad lodge
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Isnt cl 16 is better?

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Like the lower the cl the better?

green terrace
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It is.

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Again, gotta make sure you’re not overspending on RAM

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3200/CL16 or 3600/CL18 are the sweet spot

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They perform very close

glad lodge
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I want to get 3600/cl16

grizzled garden
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Huh, 3600MHz CAS18 is still good? Always thought everyone went for 3600MHz CAS16

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Mainly cause yeah

green terrace
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You can. CL18 is significantly cheaper.

glad lodge
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Ahh. I will keep tht in mind

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Thanks again

green terrace
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Good luck

glad lodge
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Do you happen to know the launch date of asus rog dark hero VIII motherboard?

green terrace
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No, but you may want to search the chat. People have been talking about that board a lot.

glad lodge
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Which chat

green terrace
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This one

glad lodge
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Ahh ok

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Thanks again bye

graceful elm
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alright

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so i have the bios update problem with the new amd cpu where i cant update because i dont have any amd cpus

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is it true i could just buy one off bestbuy and then return it right after i do the bios update?

tawny parcel
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My pop os drive isnt detected in the msi Tomahawk bios but is on the f11 boot menu. Can someone please help me

vague kayak
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im trying to gte a mother board that can upgrade past the 5950x cpu to the next gen so i dont have to get a new mobo and cou just cpu when its time to upgrade. any suggestions on anything left on new egg

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please and thank ;n;

hollow thorn
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@vague kayak it's impossible.

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Next generation is going to use a different socket

vague kayak
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i was told the asus rog mother boards would but thank you:)

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn
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5000 is supposed to be the last generation on AM4, next gen will be on AM5 or whatever they decide to name the socket.

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One of the main reasons for the socket and board change is DDR5 ram

main pulsar
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dee dee argh phive

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help

graceful elm
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could someone answer my question please?

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its right up there

main pulsar
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amd will send loaner cpus

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if you ask

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wait i thought your issue was with windows installing?

graceful elm
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no

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i just need the bios update

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i heard the loaner cpu takes a while

naive pendant
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my guess is the 6950x will have 20 cores

graceful elm
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562 core 6950x

main pulsar
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@graceful elm the symptoms your system is exhibiting is not due to an outdated bios, just an fyi

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just making sure

graceful elm
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what symptoms

main pulsar
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the whole windows boot failure

graceful elm
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i just know that to use a 5000 series cpu the bios needs an update

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amirite?

main pulsar
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sometimes

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you will know if the system beeps at you

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or it will literally just not power on

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or it will light up and just do nothing

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it varies

graceful elm
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so theres a chance that if i put the 5800x in that it will boot into bios?

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and i can update it then?

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i heard that could brick my board

main pulsar
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yeah, when did you purchase the board?

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it wont brick your board lol

graceful elm
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October 14, 2020

main pulsar
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the bios wont be able to match the CPUID with a set of microcode, and it will just sit there

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hmm, that miiiight be too old, but its worth a shot imo

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all you gotta do is put in the cpu and plug in the psu

graceful elm
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alright

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i get the cpu tomorrow

main pulsar
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set the board on a cardboard box

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easy

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of course, it varies based on board

graceful elm
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i think ill just put it all together

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of course i dont have my cpufan, new ram, or new gpu

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but i can use the stock cpufan, old ram, and old gpu

main pulsar
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yeah, just build it like its all fine, but dont install the cpu cooler

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test boot

graceful elm
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alright

main pulsar
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you can usually run the cpu for like 10 seconds bare before you really should unplug it

graceful elm
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do all motherboards have intergrated graphics?

main pulsar
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the moment you know the system supports the cpu, power off immediatly

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its not a matter of the motherboard having it, the iGPU is typically located on the CPU itself

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most server motherboards have a gpu integrated on it tho

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what motherboard do you have?

graceful elm
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Asus AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

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isnt that hdmi and display port?

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in the middle

main pulsar
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yeah

graceful elm
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alright cool

main pulsar
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so if you install a g series cpu

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they will work

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otherwise they wont

graceful elm
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g series?

main pulsar
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yeah

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like

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3000g

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3200g

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3400g

graceful elm
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oh

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👀

main pulsar
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2400g

graceful elm
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i got the 5800x

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lol

main pulsar
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ik

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so you put your gpu in the system

graceful elm
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alright

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i got a 1050 ti lp

main pulsar
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why?

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oh, as a placeholder?

graceful elm
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no, its one ive been using for a while

main pulsar
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i see

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that works

graceful elm
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i got an old office computer for free

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the case is super small and skinny

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so i need a lp card

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and it was the best one when i got it

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it has served me well

main pulsar
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well, your board definitely doesnt support the 5800x

graceful elm
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nice

main pulsar
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bios was released the 5th

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wayyyy after you got your board

graceful elm
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yeah

main pulsar
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so it needs a bios update

graceful elm
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thought so

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should i do the bestbuy return thing, or apply for the loaner thing

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i heard the loaner thing takes a bit

main pulsar
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waaaait im blind

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2607 is required

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that was released in august 17th

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hmmm

graceful elm
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whats going on

main pulsar
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thinking

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with the last 2 brain cells that i have

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its tough

graceful elm
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i feel that

main pulsar
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okok

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so, you got your board in october

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the bios update needed was released in august

graceful elm
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that early?

main pulsar
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2 months before you got your board

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yep

graceful elm
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wow

main pulsar
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honestly, theres a good chance you got a board with the proper bios

graceful elm
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i hope so

main pulsar
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i would say, just go along assuming it will work, theres a very high probability that it will be alright

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if it doesnt, then it doesnt, we come up with another plan

graceful elm
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nice

main pulsar
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very unlikely tho

graceful elm
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i see

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thank you big brain man

main pulsar
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lol thx

graceful elm
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would it be cool if i messaged if it didnt work?

main pulsar
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yeah my DMs are always open

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idk when i wont be busy tho

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but theres like, ~30 people here who i know are capable of helping, so if im not around, one of em will be, and when you toss your question in the chat, one of em will pick it up

graceful elm
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alright

naive pendant
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Is an msi B550 Gaming edge wifi worth for 150 usd?

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Or an asus b550 tuf for 10 bucks less?

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need help deciding

fickle flax
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do you need wifi or nah @naive pendant?

naive pendant
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Might need it

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But not a priority

neat estuary
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Oh the bliss. To save 10$ or nah. I should just start smoking weed to achieve this level of zen

astral fjord
dusty hollow
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Been up for 30 mins

deft helm
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not instock for another 2 months pog

vast granite
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Not to bad though

glad lodge
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Hi again, if im buying memory 2x16 and it says dual channel it does mean it it uses 4 channels right?

atomic fulcrum
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Ryzen 7 2700X for $220 is that a good deal

glad lodge
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When is says dual channel does that means its equivalent to dual rank?

neat estuary
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Yes @glad lodge As i understand. I hope someone further verifes

glad lodge
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Im planning to buy 2x16gb and i want to make sure it is dual rank

neat estuary
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When i run Typhhon in Organization you see where it says 2 ranks?

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Thats how i know my set is dual i guess

glad lodge
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Im not sure if this from newegg is dual rank

neat estuary
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Im pretty certain it is

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I have the B-die version of the same kit

glad lodge
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Okay rhanks

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Thanks

neat estuary
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np

tawny parcel
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My pop os drive isnt detected in the msi Tomahawk b450 bios but is on the f11 boot menu. Can someone please help me

stray vortex
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so, NZXT 360mm X73 with the stock fans, pull system, on a 10700kf currently stressed for 2+ hours at 5.1 GHz and under 65*

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did I do good?

shadow hearth
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whats a better config with a ryzen 5900x? 4x8GB 4000mhz, or 4x16 3600mhz? Price is similar.

stray vortex
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well, be honest

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are you really gonna use all that ram?

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if not, 4000 would benefit more, maybe a small margin, but it would benefit

shadow hearth
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Not at all. But its just the two options I have. got one from prime days and the other as new egg bundle with the cpu.

stray vortex
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I would grab the 4000MHz kit then

shadow hearth
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both CL18

stray vortex
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but, if you think in the future that you'll belefit from the extra 32GB then that's up to you

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realistically, the 4x16 is a better value

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and would help more in the long-term

shadow hearth
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has anyone been able to get 2000mhz on the infinity fabric?

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If you can keep your cpu 20C+ below tjMAX while stressed then your cooling is good.

sour coyote
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3600

hollow thorn
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any really

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whatever you can afford

fallen lynx
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@shadow hearth i haven't heard of anyone breaking 1900

shadow hearth
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I800 is the highest i can go stable.

desert estuary
patent jewel
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POG

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Asus TUF B550 plus wifi or B550 Aorus Pro Ac

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For 5600x

dire bluff
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Any one knowledgeable in troubleshooting issues. I think i had a bad PSU and believe it ruined my MBD

boreal tundra
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i want a 5600X but what can i do with bios if i don’t have a 3000 series

patent jewel
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What mobo are you getting

naive pendant
raw cipher
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600X with Wraith Spire Cooler, ASRock B450M Pro4, CPU Is this a good deal for $270?

naive pendant
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5950x

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link

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lasted 4 mins so far

ionic skiff
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if i were to get an intel i9 10850k, what type of motherboard would be best for it?

neat estuary
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@dire bluff reset cmos first.

desert sundial
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so do you get corsair vengeance ram for an intel build and get the gskill comparable if you are doing an amd build?

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or does it not really matter?

neat estuary
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Shouldn’t matter.

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But check your motherboard QVL

desert sundial
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im not competent enough to know what that is

violet zealot
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If you go to the manufacturer's website you can locate what's called a QVL "Qualified Vendor List" under the motherboard you're looking at

neat estuary
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^

violet zealot
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There it is for that one

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It'll list the vendor for the memory, and the part no. It's easy enough to figure out using the part number

desert sundial
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i had no idea of this, thank you guys so much ❤️

boreal tundra
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i want a 5600X but what can i do with bios if i don’t have a 3000 series
@boreal tundra i’m getting a B550

naive pendant
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would a 3700x be over kill for 1660 Super?

violet zealot
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A CPU being overkill shouldn't be a concern, the GPU being overkill with the CPU is what should be concerning

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But yeah, no. That's perfectly fine

patent jewel
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I have only four parts left of my build. When I see my cpu in stock should I also buy my mobo and cpu cooler and only have the gpu left or should I just purchase the cpu (5600x) and then wait until I can get the mobo, cpu cooler, and gpu all at the same time?

plain lintel
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AMD Ryzen 3 3100, Motherboard A320M/ac, appart from SDRAM DDR4 2666MHZ, is there something else i should be aware for RAM compatiblity? what would you suggest for 2 X 8 gb RGB?

sour coyote
hollow thorn
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@plain lintel do you already own the A320 board?

neat estuary
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The Asus x570i doesnt have a type c front header.. I dont think any x570i does.

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But most of the B550i do.. except for the Aorus Pro

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Id say the MSI B550 gaming edge ITX is about the best

patent jewel
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does anyone have an opinion on my question a couple messages up?

neat estuary
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Nobody can answer that question as getting those parts u want is up to luck

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Its usually better to buy all at once so you can assemble and test wityhin the return period

patent jewel
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Yeah I get that

neat estuary
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But when u are hunting for new hard to find hardware its a Big "good luck" from us

plain lintel
hollow thorn
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I'd try to get 2x8gb of 3200mhz cl16 ram with that

plain lintel
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Thanks !!

rancid raven
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Any word on the ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero release date?

vivid pewter
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Would it be a bad idea to have a 2x16 gb sticks and then add 2x8 gb sticks for a total of 48 gb or will there a problem(assuming timings and speed are the same on all the sticks)?

hollow thorn
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It'll be very interesting from the CPU's perspective

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Three ranks per channel

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not quite sure how performance would be, it'll be interesting.

Compatibility should be fine though.

sacred umbra
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so i just got a i7-10700k but found an i9-9900k for cheaper..do i return and get the i9?

pliant cypress
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9900k would need a different mobo

sacred umbra
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yeah i havent bought mobo yet

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this is the first build im doing for myself lol

gritty meadow
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it would default to lowest common @hollow thorn

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as in, lowest common performance metric the sticks can agree on

sour coyote
neat estuary
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It has a dock that would only require the board to have one RGB header to power everything.

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Oh. I guess idk what needs a 4 pin RGB and what needs a 3.

sour coyote
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its becaude I have a phanteks neon rgb strips that has been sitting in my drawer for 3 months since I thought it could conenct to my current build but my motherboard has no rgb header (b350m) and the case (phanteks enthoo evolv matx) has rgb that needs to connect to a 4pin rgb header

sour coyote
vocal spire
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Can someone explain to me the main difference between intel and and cpus besides the cores and threads

patent jewel
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is the Asus TUF gaming b550 plus wifi a good board?

split copper
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Amd cpu is made by amd

patent jewel
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wondering because on BF Newegg has 25 dollars instant savings and 25 dollars Mail in rebate

split copper
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Intel cpu is made by intel

neat estuary
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@vocal spire the best CPUs are currently the AMD 5000 series. If you want the best then pick the size that fits your needs. However you can pick from the 3000 series to save some money.

fallen lynx
main pulsar
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in the majority of games, no

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at high refresh rates at 1080p, depends

tawny parcel
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My pop os drive isnt detected in the msi Tomahawk b450 bios but is on the f11 boot menu. Can someone please help me

stray vortex
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that moment when your CPU overclock is so good it may very well be a golden sample 👀

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1.26V, 5.4 ghz on all cores, doesn't go above 65* under load, stressed for 8 hours, etc

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bruh

plain flame
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on a 6700k? damn

stray vortex
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nah, 10700kf now

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oops

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gotta change that

shadow hearth
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I don't even need to over clock my 5800x. Its screams enough at stock.

arctic tiger
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I can use a 3.0 pcie gpu on a 4.0 pcie mobo right?

shadow hearth
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yes

violet zealot
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All generations of PCIE are forwards and backwards compatible

arctic tiger
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ok

violet zealot
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It's not relevant but say you were to take your gen 3 card and use it in a gen 2 slot, it would be limited by gen 2 bandwidth

arctic tiger
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ok i see

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but im doing my first build sometime next month so i am very nervous

violet zealot
#

Don't worry about it, it's like clicking lego together

arctic tiger
violet zealot
#

What ssd are you getting?

arctic tiger
#

970 evo 500 gb

shadow hearth
#

in the m.2 slot

violet zealot
#

The m.2 slot is just below the first PCIE slot at the top

arctic tiger
#

ok thank you

violet zealot
#

Though can I make a recommendation for a different motherboard, cause it can be worth spending just a bit more for quality

arctic tiger
#

sure

violet zealot
#

This comes with a heatsink for the ssd as well

arctic tiger
#

ok well ima try to scrape together the money for that

analog sierra
#

WTB ASUS DARK HERO

sour coyote
#

why are the b550 so much more expensive than the b450?

arctic tiger
#

they are compatable with better CPU's n such so it is easier to upgrade and since they are newer boards they are built better to support all the new stuff

violet zealot
#

They're built a lot better

#

The board partners didn't really try until X570, they pretty much upgraded B550 to the same extent. It's quite a bit higher quality overall compared to B450, in a way it's like they're cutdown X570. Similar VRMs but lacking certain features like Gen 4 PCIE on the chipset itself, it's why the chipset doesn't need that fan

raw cipher
#

would I be able to put a 2x8gb ddr4 3200 cl16 in a asrock b450 pro4?

still garden
#

I got a question if anyone is able to answer. I recently bought a ryzen 5 3600 x and my psu doesn’t have a 8pin. But I have a molex to 8pin connector and was wondering if I used it would it mess up the cpu.

fickle flax
raw cipher
#

Thank you

graceful elm
#

cap

fickle flax
#

its called estimate for a reason

graceful elm
#

hows it gonna estimate yesterday man

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fedex finna time travel

fickle flax
#

fedex is ass

graceful elm
#

lmao

fickle flax
#

usps is better imo

graceful elm
#

yes

sour coyote
#

is it risky to order the mobo without having the cpu? is there a lot of probability to have a dead mobo?

#

1600x wont work on a b550 right?

gritty patio
#

no

#

it wont

#

i dont think

#

pretty sure is was just last gen ryzen and foreward

#

and warranty should cover you regardless

sour coyote
#

okok

#

like too low?

long geyser
#

no, technically still too high

#

5600x MSRP is $300 USD, rn $1 USD is $1.31 CAD

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which is $393 CAD

sour coyote
#

yeah but right now theyre all 450 cad and around that

long geyser
#

tho on average you'd see parts account for overhead and round to $400. $450 tho is overpriced

sour coyote
#

that our "msrp" if i base myself on newegg and amazon prices

long geyser
#

can consider that minor scalping I'd say

sour coyote
#

here you can cry over these prices

long geyser
#

unless it was imported instead of standard "improperly" due to low supply which would increase prices

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seen that with Ampere cards. To quickly move from US to CA they were imported in a different way then usual, which increased costs

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also wow, my spelling errors are going great rn

sour coyote
#

yeah and pc canada charges 60$ for shipping the 5600x WITHOUT the cooler and 11$ shipping for the 5600 WITH the cooler

#

its so damn difficult to find the right price

#

even pc partpicker cant manage this

long geyser
#

pcpp doesnt like prices that change a lot

#

so quickly going in/out of stock will not register usually or mess with it

maiden holly
#

hello hello im thinking about upgrading my cpu to i7 3770k but my motherboard doesnt support overclock so will the i7 3770k work just like i7 3770 non k?

cyan night
#

so im trying to figure out why my 5800x is randomly boosting at idle

#

do you guys think it may be a bios thing?

hollow thorn
#

@cyan night that's... What stock setting does...

cyan night
#

it does?

hollow thorn
#

Stock boosting behavior boosts high asf on single cores at the lightest load

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Like it'll be say 3.6ghz idle, open chrome, instant 4.6ghz on core1 kind of thing.

cyan night
#

well at boot it was running 4.4

maiden holly
#

D:

cyan night
#

it was cooking my gpu with it

hollow thorn
#

Hm?

maiden holly
modest ice
vivid pewter
#

What is the percent permformance difference between 3600mhz cl16 vs 3200mhz cl16? Are we talking like a percent or two?

green terrace
#

@vivid pewter https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

Ryzen 3000 Memory Benchmark & Best RAM for Ryzen (fClock, uClock, &...

Memory speed on Ryzen has always been a hot subject, with AMD’s 1000 and 2000 series CPUs responding favorably to fast memory while at the same time having difficulty getting past 3200MHz in Gen1. The new Ryzen 3000 chips officially support memory speeds up to 3200MHz and can reliably run kits up to 3600MHz, with extreme overclocks up to 5100MHz...

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I’m assuming you’re on ryzen.

dense patio
#

Are there motherboards that exists which don't share the sata ports between the m.2 and the drive?

glad hawk
maiden holly
#

which?

cosmic pagoda
#

I'm looking enthusiast MB for overclocking and water cooling where costs isn't really a big deal. Would X570 AORUS MASTER or ASUS AMD AM4 ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero be a good way to go? Should I wait a little bit for a board soon to be on the market?

glad hawk
#

the things you need to consider is if the socket is the same and if the bios support it. other than that the 3770k is a better deal depending if it is more expensive or not than the 3770

naive pendant
#

VRMs on x570s are usually good

maiden holly
#

im just wondering if the 3770k performs better than the non k on non overclockable motherboard

naive pendant
#

No

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K is just unlocked

glad hawk
#

the k has a slight higher base clock but i think it doesnt matter since they can boost up to the same frequency

cosmic pagoda
#

I just straight up can't decide. X570 Aorus Master, or ASUS AND AM4 ROG X570. Or if I should go Intel.

fickle flax
#

what does both have to offer

#

ofc they have the same chipset and basic features

#

but which one suits your needs?

#

@cosmic pagoda

hollow thorn
#

@cosmic pagoda what do you need it to do?

naive pendant
fickle flax
#

both are pretty similar when it comes to features

naive pendant
#

much better capabilities

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant smh

cosmic pagoda
#

Mostly will be doing data processing, and in fact I probably don't need something that heavy.

naive pendant
#

wdym!

hollow thorn
#

Zen 3 cpu oc should actually be good

naive pendant
#

you can easily get 8GHz with an industrial water chiller

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lol

hollow thorn
#

Lmao

fickle flax
#

i would go for what is more easily accessible for you @cosmic pagoda

#

the biggest difference between both is that the aorus master has more usb ports

hollow thorn
#

@naive pendant on what chip

naive pendant
#

^

hollow thorn
#

@fickle flax too lazy to check rn but I think it was the x570 aorus elite that only had a single chassis fan header

naive pendant
#

master

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not elite

cosmic pagoda
#

Def won't be getting elite

fickle flax
#

it has 7 fan headers compared to 6 on the asus one

hollow thorn
#

I'm saying one of the Aorus boards had a single chassis header

#

:p

#

@cosmic pagoda also which Asus board?

fickle flax
#

crosshair viii @hollow thorn

hollow thorn
#

What about MSI X570 Unify

cosmic pagoda
#

@hollow thorn My bad. I basically just can't decide on which one.

fickle flax
#

if someone is able to oc a xeon chip to 6ghz, i would immediately bow down to them

hollow thorn
#

Only chilled water actually, not even dice or ln2

naive pendant
cosmic pagoda
#

How is that even possible

fickle flax
#

liquid nitrogen i think

hollow thorn
fickle flax
#

@cosmic pagoda id go for whatever would fit your build

#

both are solid x570 boards

cosmic pagoda
#

Sounds good... I appreciate the help.

fickle flax
#

the aorus one has 4 more usb 2.0 slots over the asus rog one @cosmic pagoda

hollow thorn
#

Checked specs, @cosmic pagoda So the Aorus Master has dual bios while Crosshair doesn't, Aorus Master has 3 m.2 slots when Crosshair has 2

fickle flax
#

go for the aorus master

cosmic pagoda
#

I think I'll go with the Aorus.

hollow thorn
#

Power delivery wise both are good, Asus uses doublers while the Aorus master has all true phases

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And Aorus Master has the ALC1220vb audio codec while Asus has the supremefx whateveritscalled 1220 codec

naive pendant
#

For a 1660 super, what CPU should I get? i7 9700K or Ryzen 2700X? (Using pc for streaming, gaming and editing)

fickle flax
#

but why a 1660 super?

naive pendant
#

budget pc

hollow thorn
#

Uh

#

I'd get neither tbh

#

Either a 3100 or 10100/10400

naive pendant
#

Can someone link me a cheap 2060 or 2060S EU or UK website?

split copper
#

you could try PCPP

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cheapest 2060S on PCPP

sinful widget
#

Ok I am looking to buy some ram for my msi b450 mobo and AMD ryzen 5 3600 CPU. What ram do you recommend looking for 32gb

split copper
#

@naive pendant

naive pendant
#

ok tysm

split copper
#

yw

patent jewel
#

in a couple of days the Asus TUF b550 gaming plus wifi will be on sale for 130 after 25 instant saving and 25 mail in rebate should I take that deal for a 5600x or should I go with the B550 Aorus Pro ac?

prime whale
#

@patent jewel Shouldnt u go for a 570 board to take full advantage of ur cpu?

#

Could be wrong about that, but i thought.

gritty meadow
#

@prime whale chipset does not matter for consumers in that regard. as in. x570 vs b550 wise

prime whale
#

Cool. Love to.learn.

gritty meadow
#

@patent jewel its your call entirely on those

patent jewel
#

I have to really just choose it is very hard decision because I have really wanted the B550 aorus pro ac and 10 dollar off sale ends today but also the B550 gaming plus wifi from Asus is going to be like 50 dollars off in 4 days

sour coyote
tribal yoke
#

hey guys if the difference between 3200 and 3600 on ram big for ryzen?

naive pendant
#

maybe for certain tasks. but i would say 3200 & 3600 are both fast and great for ryzen even though the faster the better

opaque pilot
#

Had anyone heard any recent news about the asus dark hero? It's been a while from supposed release date and havent seen anyone selling it.

sinful widget
opaque pilot
#

Qualified Vendor List tl;dr list of product that is officially supported

real zenith
#

im looking for a cheep motherboard that can overclock my 2600

#

something b450 or x470

neat estuary
#

That cpu doesnt overclock almost at all

#

not worth it

#

and all AMD motherboards can OC

real zenith
#

it is for my entry build until i can afford a 5000

neat estuary
#

Then u need a x570

real zenith
#

i am looking for 100 or less

#

i know with a bios update b450 will support 5000 series

neat estuary
#

I will let the budget gurus answer your question

real zenith
#

i was thinking about this motherbord

violet zealot
#

Refurbished motherboards are kind of a toss up

neat estuary
#

Im sorry i just don't agree with ur decisions. They are a waste of money in my opinion and don't prepare you for any future proofing at all. I can see one arguement against my view that B550/x570 is a end of path socket and thus whats the point to buy into it.... and its valid i suppose

gritty meadow
#

"Then u need a x570" <- @neat estuary could you elaborate on that one?

neat estuary
#

you can see it in my rant

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if you think on it

real zenith
#

i dont need an x570 and i cant afford one why cant i get a b450?

neat estuary
#

You can.

#

Just be certain that they provide support for 5000 deries cpu

gritty meadow
#

@neat estuary i asked if you could elaborate, because your point was quite muddled, that is all :)

real zenith
#

based off of what i have seen b450 only needs a bois update for 5000 series

gritty meadow
#

@real zenith he is trying to say that any 500 series chipset will do the trick

pliant cypress
#

in january

#

*b450 gets the update in january

gritty meadow
#

@pliant cypress some are out now, Asrock released theirs a couple of days ago

real zenith
#

im also on a $100 budget tho

pliant cypress
#

oh that was early

neat estuary
#

OK.. Everyone knows gen 4 isnt really relevent.. But what if it becomes so? That then requires you to have gen 4 mobo.. ALso B550/x570 series has other advantages with 5000 series CPU installed

#

SO if he knows he wants to update ion future anyway.. why no get ready now

gritty meadow
#

@real zenith consider it a question of: Do i want to invest in potential future support. That is really all it is

#

its entirely up to you to decide what worth/value you give that support

real zenith
#

i see the problem as i dont have the budget to get the future proofing motherbord

violet zealot
#

Try looking for a B450 max board from MSI, those boards will certainly have support for Ryzen 5000 at some point

neat estuary
#

Ya. It is end of socket life. So the best budget option is actually to stick with a 400 series mobo and update later

gritty meadow
#

please dont make promises like that @violet zealot, they have a habit of biting you in the behind :)

violet zealot
#

Though I will also say, I don't think it matters. Zen 2 is good enough for the money phaSheva

#

Well it's MSI making the promise I'm just reiterating their promises phaWesker

gritty meadow
#

their only promise was: we will look into support <- something along those lines iirc

neat estuary
#

You have to go do some studying to get a good picture of this.. Only Asrock has delivered

real zenith
#

is this any good?

neat estuary
#

If you dont OC, have good air flow.. They all work

#

Look instead on features you need.. like wifi, USB ports.. etc

real zenith
#

i still realy like this one

neat estuary
#

@real zenith My interests heavily lie in high end components. I can offer technical advice here or their but around here i let @gritty meadow or @hollow thorn advice on lower end components

hollow thorn
#

hai

fluid gorge
#

does b550 support zen 3 out of the box like thinking of waiting to buy r5 5600x

shadow hearth
#

yes but my need to flash update bios on some mobos.

neat estuary
#

@naive pendant if all you do is gaming the B550 is fine.

shadow hearth
#

the x570 would only benefit mostly if using a pcie 4.0 m.2

#

i would grab 2 more stick of ram though.

#

i have the same ram and the xmp profile clocks 4000mhz perfect on my mobo.

#

but i for sure increase 5-10 fps by filling all 4 dim slots.

#

im using a samsung 980 m.2 as my os drive running in pcie4 and 2 sata ssd.

#

$159 is a great deal for a x570. i would stick with that

#

all in all a solid build you got.

#

be sure to download the latest bios before on a flash drive from asus that supports the new ryzens incase it doesn't post.

pine pilot
shadow hearth
#

lol did the use glue instead of thermal paste?

pine pilot
#

I guess but in their manual it says to lift it out and the cpu should stay in socket

hushed coral
#

which is better i5 9600k, i5 10400f, or a ryzen 5 3600

#

and i'll be mostly gaming

gritty meadow
#

@pine pilot that has nothing to do with quality, that is just thermal paste being thermal paste

#

hence why you should ALWAYS twist after you loosen the cooler

pine pilot
#

Any tips for getting it off?

shadow hearth
#

twist it off but dont touch the pins.

pine pilot
#

It doesn't budge at all

gritty meadow
#

aye, take something plastic and put between the pcb and the cooler, and leverage it loose that way

#

however

#

BE VERY VERY careful

#

when it does come off? it will most likely try to take a trip across the room

#

and no, that is NOT a joke

pine pilot
#

Still funny

gritty meadow
#

so, have a hand ready to catch it

#

it isnt funny when you have 60% of the pins bent

pine pilot
#

True

gritty meadow
#

think of the thermal paste as VERY stubborn glue

#

because that is how it acts right now

eager shore
#

wait, can you twist the cpu off the cooler using swabs with alcohol on them?

#

that's what a friend of mine did when he was in this situation

pine pilot
#

Feels more like concrete tbh

gritty meadow
#

the seal is generally good enough that doesnt work @eager shore

#

for really really old paste, it is a viable way thou :)

eager shore
#

he said that it felt similar to peeling a scab off of your knee

gritty meadow
#

another way that some suggest, but which i only personally use when i am the one doing it, is applying heat to the heatsink, because the paste will get more malleable that way

#

wedging it off with something plastic, will work

#

it will take time, but its the one that is the least likely to cause damage

pine pilot
#

It won't budge so I'm just going to leave it

#

It's temporary till I get my hands on a 5900x anyway

gritty meadow
#

is it a cpu you need right now?

#

ah

pine pilot
#

If I get a 3080 before a 5900x it'll still be fine at 4k

#

It's a ryzen 7 2700

gritty meadow
#

sooner or later you need to get it loosened thou :)

hushed coral
#

which is better i5 9600k, i5 10400f, or a ryzen 5 3600 for mostly gaming

gritty meadow
#

personally i would go 3600

stray vortex
#

^

#

have a look at the specs of all of them, compare benchmarks

#

find what works best for you

#

the 10400f may be better with some of what you'll be running

shadow hearth
#

they're pretty even offering. guess it depends if you want to go intel or amd. and how much does it cost.

hushed coral
#

well right now the 3600 is super over priced

gritty meadow
#

look at all 3 variants @hushed coral

#

they jump up and down in price

#

3600/x/XT <- is what i mean with variants

#

and at times the XT is below the x etc etc

stray vortex
#

^

pine pilot
graceful elm
#

Didn't come with a stock cooler tho :(

stray vortex
#

they don't and tbh

#

at that price you may want a better cooler anyway :0

#

🙂

graceful elm
#

i did get one

#

i just wanted the stock one to test if it would boot

gritty meadow
#

well done @pine pilot :)

#

there is no "stock cooler" for the SKU's above 5600

shadow hearth
#

it'll boot. it'll just run like poo when it heats up.

graceful elm
#

twinsies @pine pilot

shadow hearth
#

looks almost exactly like asus and aorus copied off each others notes.

pine pilot
#

lol

#

@graceful elm I got the case too

autumn fossil
#

should I buy the Ryzen 5 2600? or spend an extra $100 for the 3600

graceful elm
#

3600

autumn fossil
#

:/

graceful elm
#

imo

autumn fossil
#

its $140 vs like $240

#

:/

heady root
#

just wait for 3600 to drop back to 200

#

and r5 5600 (non x) may be releasing at around 220 usd in the beginning of next year

#

not sure tho

pliant cypress
#

I don't think it will

gritty meadow
#

i dont think they will push those sku's just yet @heady root

#

they really dont have a compelling reason to right now

burnt notch
#

Good b550 not for ocing

heady root
#

yeah that's true

autumn fossil
#

hmm

gritty meadow
#

its not like they are not selling all they have right now @heady root :)

autumn fossil
#

i was going to wait for the 3600 to drop back down to 200

#

but then I saw the 2600 was 140 so i ws like idk man, which one

heady root
#

i wanted to wait for something from next gen but eh

#

i'm settling for a 3600 whenever it goes cheap

autumn fossil
#

mhm

#

i saw that the lowest it went was 169

#

🙂

#

nice

raw cipher
#

how can i add wifi to my pc if my mobo doesn’t come with wifi? i will be mainly using ethernet though so if that is not possible then that’s fine

gritty meadow
#

either a add in card (AIC) or a usb dongle @raw cipher

raw cipher
#

@gritty meadow any recommendations for which ones are good for gaming at least? I have a asrock b450 pro4 if that matters

gritty meadow
#

for gaming, wifi is not preferred

#

but its a combination of what your router supports and what your budget is

patent jewel
#

The only other thing that I dont know about is if I should go with the B550 aorus pro ac now because of the slight sale or in 4 days go for the B550 gaming plus wifi from Asus when it will be 50 off for a 5600x

gritty meadow
#

same as before really

#

depends on you

#

but, have a look at the IO of both

#

see if there is something you like more on one over the other

patent jewel
#

I like the better audio on the Aorus and the io as well as the bios flashback process with Gigabyte and just the overall vrms on it as well

#

so I guess I know my answer then

#

Aorus it sounds like because of everything I like on it

gritty meadow
#

:)

patent jewel
#

🙂

#

I am also ok with ordering now because Newegg and Amazon upped their return and replace date to January 31st and I plan on building in January so it works out

gritty meadow
#

that is your call :)

patent jewel
#

yep I know it is still pretty unlikely for a product to be dead just not impossible

gritty meadow
#

aye

patent jewel
#

just ordered Pog

gritty meadow
#

:)

#

enjoy teasing yourself with boxes you cannot use :D

patent jewel
#

well I already have many boxes in my closet teasing me

#

everything except my four boxes gpu, cpu, cpu cooler, and mobo so

#

but when my mobo gets here I can flash the bios with 5th gen ryzen bios update

grizzled fable
#

Well that’s great

#

I just fried my motherboard trying to fix my USB ports

#

Legit started smoking

#

I have never done that.

#

I hope it didn’t affect my CPU and all 😦

#

It started glowing bright red in the spot where the smoke came from

patent jewel
#

Rip

frozen schooner
#

Sounds epic

sour coyote
#

any information on when msi will release the b550 gaming edge max wifi?

#

theres only the non-max version on newegg but its on msi's website

naive pendant
#

will there be a max version of that board ?

fallen lynx
#

what is the difference?

hollow kraken
#

and if not amd can hook you up with a free zen1 or zen+ cpu to update your bios

#

but u gotta send it back

#

i dont know if they stopped doing that or not

violet zealot
#

The point of the Max boards for B450 was to adapt their older boards for future support, they gave it a 32bit bios chip

#

Double the size of what they typically used for B450

#

That's what they're already using for both X570 and B550

#

It's a standard spec, so there's no point in a Max variant

hollow kraken
#

b550, x570 and a520 are going to get the max feature when zen4 comes out

hollow kraken
violet zealot
#

Zen4 might be on a new socket, so I wouldn't be so sure. I mean we don't know yet, but that's what I'm expecting anyway

gritty meadow
#

unlikely that zen4 is not ddr5

neat estuary
#

pretty sure it is

hollow kraken
#

it would be nice if every multiple of 5 is a new socket

gritty meadow
#

but, depending on things, we could get a refresh of zen3

#

like zen+ was

hollow kraken
#

zen-

#

lol

violet zealot
#

Well I was hoping "Ryzen 5000" would be on AM5 socket with DDR5, that looks pretty nice on paper. They decided to skip 4000 for desktop so there goes that idea phaWesker

hollow kraken
#

4000 is apus and laptops

violet zealot
#

I know why they went to 5000, cause before it seems like the APUs were a generation behind despite the naming

hollow kraken
#

4000 is still zen2

violet zealot
#

I know

#

But that's what I mean

hollow kraken
#

it would have been nice if it was zen2+

violet zealot
#

The Ryzen 3000 APUs were Zen+ while the rest of the desktop stack was Zen2

hollow kraken
#

oh ye

#

nvm

#

tbh i think amd's apu should be under a different architecture name

violet zealot
#

Yeah It should probably be on a different socket too

hollow kraken
#

nah

violet zealot
#

As long as they go that far I dunno

#

That's kind of what they did with the older APUs

#

FM3+ or whatever it was called

hollow kraken
#

i like how everything is on one socket

#

is athlon also on the zen architecture

violet zealot
#

I guess it would make things unnecessarily complicated

#

The athlons are still Zen 1

hollow kraken
#

ah

#

ye cuz then with a new socket might also come new mobo chipsets

violet zealot
#

I think they've been using some mature leftover gloflo silicon for them

gritty meadow
#

keep in mind, there are budget builders that start with a APU and then go dGPU then change away from the APU

hollow kraken
#

ye

#

thats how i started

gritty meadow
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that would not be a option if am4 didnt support things

hollow kraken
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i started with a 3400g and am using a rx5600xt now

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im either having connection problems or this chat just died

fallen lynx
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its not always very active

gritty meadow
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if there isnt a problem being worked on, its generally not all that active

fallen lynx
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and i'm pretty sure B550/X570 are the last of the AM4 sockets, along with 5000 series

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(barring any kind of mid cycle updates)

gritty meadow
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which is very practical when buildchat explodes in activity, because then you can move individual talks down here

ember knot
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Hi, is shoprbc a safe place to buy parts?

gritty patio
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never heard of it

ember knot
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hmm

hollow thorn
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@ember knot what region?

ember knot
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Canada

hollow thorn
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Yea I feel like I've heard of shoprbc at some point but not for the US

ember knot
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Hmm, they seem to have something I want to purchase, but I'm not sure if its safe or not

high steeple
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Shoprbc

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Is that in vancouver

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@ember knot

timber jasper
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or anyone who has gotten this can you please tell me if its a scam

gritty patio
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huh

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its on sale my guy

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and its g-skill

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they make dependable ram

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@timber jasper

devout needle
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if the amd ryzen 5 3600 and 3600x are the same price, it is clear that I should get the 3600x right?

fallen lynx
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yes

violet zealot
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Maybe look at the 3600XT if it's the same price

devout needle
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no the 3600xt is not on sale

hollow iris
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Any recommendations for motherboards at a reasonable price for i9 9900k? Looking to build a pc for the first time and could use some recommendations

violet zealot
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You would be better off looking at Intel's 10th gen options I would say

hollow iris
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I was gonna get the i9 9900k at $319 which is much less than I’ve seen an i9 10th gen for

violet zealot
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Well, the 10700k is effectively the same chip and you will have better support potentially for 11th gen whenever that comes out. 9900k, that is Z390 is a dead end

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That's the absolute best option for it

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Not a bad option for 319 though I will admit that

hollow iris
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I don’t mind upgrading in a couple years buying a new mobo for it, but to start out I figured the i9 9900k is new enough that it would last a while but old enough that it would be the cheaper option

violet zealot
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I'm actually seeing loads of motherboard bundles for the 9900k here

hollow iris
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I was looking at the ASUS Prime z390-A

violet zealot
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Would be worth looking at that

hollow iris
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On newegg I could bundle it and save $30 on the mobo making it $140

violet zealot
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Uh hmmm I think the Gigabyte Aorus Pro might be one of the best Z390 options

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For its price point

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I remember hearing that from

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Buildzoid anyway

devout needle
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would there be different deals this weekend?

hollow iris
violet zealot
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Yes

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And actually it might have been the elite since it's cheaper, but the pro has the bundle option so it's the better pick

hollow iris
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Bundle prices actually make that the same as the asus prime one

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If planning on getting a 30 series gpu would I be better off trying to find a mobo that has a pcie 4.0? Or better off going for 10th gen now and spending the extra?

violet zealot
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The bandwidth difference regarding Ampere isn't really performance breaking, and by that I mean there is a difference; but it's not really that big at least right now

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And as it we still don't even know if Intel is gonna have 4th gen PCIE for 11th gen even

hollow iris
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So don’t worry about it being 3.0?

violet zealot
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Nah, it's fine. For a while when Gen 3 was new it was fine using Gen 2 really, it didn't really make a huge difference

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We might start to see that difference with the next generation of GPUs possibly, like at the high end. That's just a guess though, really don't know

gritty meadow
violet zealot
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Alright, well I might be thinking of if Z490 even supports 4th gen PCIe then

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I know board partners have stated they can

gritty meadow
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last place i heard it from was Ian Cutress (anandtech cpu editor in chief)

violet zealot
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But it's kinda weird

gritty meadow
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thats the "in theory, maybe, perhaps, who-the-heck-knows" promise from intel PR department @violet zealot

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that is, what you just said is that

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basically, expect a new chipset for it to work

violet zealot
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So what I would do is go with that 9900k bundle, cause it is a pretty decent deal. When's Rocket Lake expected to launch anyway? Spring right?

gritty meadow
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aye, Q1 in theory

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but ... yeah

hollow iris
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Okay, thanks for the help!

gritty meadow
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its not as if they have any positive track record "oomph" left that i can point at

silver pewter
gritty patio
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its cheap lmao

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mm i have a similar one thoi

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i'd say yes

silver pewter
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I just haven't bought the brand before.

gritty patio
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was my first time

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when i first set the xmp profile it wouldnt go to the rated one

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but after a couple of weeks i tried it again and it did

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ig its just how the cookie crumbles

hollow kraken
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i3 10100 vs ryzen 3 3100, wanna see which one is better and what gpus would pair with each

split copper
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10100 better single core, 3100 better all core

hollow kraken
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lets say if i were to be doing 3d modeling work which one would be best

gritty patio
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3100

hollow kraken
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and what would be an ideal gpu for the 3100 and 10100

split copper
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what for?

hollow kraken
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gaming

static quail
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Hi guys
Are there any mobos with updated bios for the 5000 series cpus from amd?

cyan night
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you have to update them with a usb

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@static quail

waxen crow
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Asus's Dark Hero board is Ryzen 5k ready, not available yet though.

static quail
cyan night
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there is zero way

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of avoiding it atm

static quail
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Oh ok. Thanks guys

ionic skiff
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whats a good motherboard for an intel i9 10850k?

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i have no idea about motherboards and i dont wanna get something which is bad

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what is the differences various motherboards that are compatible? could someone explain i am very uneducated on this topic and im trying to pick up a motherboard this week on black friday so

fickle flax
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a z490

hexed oak
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i'm planning to expand my notebook's RAM. i already have a 2666 MHz CL19 8GB stick on it. is there a problem if i put another one that is CL15 from a other brand, but same size and clock?

hollow thorn
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I'd try to match latency

glad lodge
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Anyone here know when the Asus Crosshair Dark Hero VIII motherboard release date?

sour coyote
runic field
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Any word on AMD 5000 series being in stock??

hollow thorn
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what

naive pendant
glad lodge
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Question is it better to have front radiator fan or top radiator fan for cooling?

boreal tundra
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someone knows when Motherboards for ryzen 5000 will be available

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i mean without updating bios

fickle flax
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In a few weeks or months maybe

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Youre better off getting a b550 or x570 then updating which isnt a big problem or hassle

violet zealot
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If you plan to get that, they have a bunch of bundles with motherboards I would recommend looking at

late pine
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Woooo

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Heading home today

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Finally gonna be able to build my computer

boreal tundra
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so i can update bios even without a ryzen 3000 series ?

violet zealot
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If the motherboard you have supports that feature

boreal tundra
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how do i know that?

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what’s that feature

violet zealot
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There's different names for it depending on the manufacturer, but typically they put a button on the rear panel labeled "bios flash" something like that. All the motherboard needs is power and a usb flash drive plugged into the appropriate usb port on the rear to be done

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And of course the bios update files loaded onto the flash drive

boreal tundra
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Thank Youu 🙂

green terrace
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can’t decide if I should buy 9900k and sell my 9700k on eBay. Pretty sure I could sell it for more than I paid.

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Deals on Newegg are great right now

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Plus with cash back etc....

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Think I’ll just keep what I have.

ocean pumice
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3100 or 10100 or wait for 5100?

hollow kraken
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5100

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i think its promised to beat the 10100

ocean pumice
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ok

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thx

green terrace
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10100 is better but the motherboards are more expensive

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3100 will probably be better value

ocean pumice
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ok

silver pewter
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Apparently the standard price for the 3600 is 220 now :/ anyone know of a good alternative for 200 or less?

marble vessel
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looking to upgrade my ram on my Asus Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 mobo

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currently runniing 16gb of Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16

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wanna upgrade to 64gb.

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can i just buy the same ram in 64gb config and be fine?

fallen lynx
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in theory, yes

marble vessel
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ok what if i wanted to get "better" ram?

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im worried im gonna get new ram and its gonna throw off mywhole build

fallen lynx
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you should probably get crucial ballistix or something like that

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vengeance LPX isn't very consistent

hollow thorn
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@marble vessel I mean, you only have 4 ram slots

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you can't get 64gb from 4x8gb sticks

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so you'd have to get sticks with 16gb per stick

fallen lynx
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either way you have to get rid of your existing ram

marble vessel
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Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200

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what about those?

hollow thorn
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I'd get a crucial ballistix 2x16gb kit, like 3600c16 if you want to keep the stick for upgradability.

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@marble vessel do you care about throwing your compatibility for fitting a radiator on top out of the window

marble vessel
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well i dont neccesarily need to keep the original ram

hollow thorn
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if you do, don't get Vengeance RGB

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G.skill trident z rgb/neo/royal have really nice looking rgb

marble vessel
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im not worried about rgb honestly

hollow thorn
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Crucial ballistix 2x16gb 3600c16 then

marble vessel
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i just want/need more ram

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ok so 32 only?

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no need to go for 64?

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ok pulling the trigger on 33gb of crucial

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thanks guys

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32* lol

ocean pumice
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or maybe get two crucial ballistix 2x16 3600c16 kits

marble vessel
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there are 64gb kits too

ocean pumice
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o

marble vessel
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4x16gb

ocean pumice
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yueah

hollow thorn
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@marble vessel it's a good bet to go 2x16gb first, because it might be enough, and if it's not, just slap another 2x16gb kit in

marble vessel
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yeah i was just thinking that

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ok time to buy!

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gonna go with 32 first and see if its enough for what im doing

ember knot
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YEEEES

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I GOT MY 5600X

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YAAAAAY

neat estuary
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5600x and 5800x are fairly easy to get now if you follow a discord with bot scripts running

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Like this one

ember knot
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I was watching youtube live

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Falcodrin's

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And thank goodness

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Canada Newegg has zen3 stock rn

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Except for 5950x

neat estuary
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I tried to link his discord