#cpus-mobo-and-memory
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@paper hill 5600x has stock cooler, 3700x has good stock cooler.
sooo
doesn't matter either way
:D
@hollow thorn the r7 has a small amount more of score in cpu mark
a tiny amount
within margin of error
you gotta remember they only have 2 samples for the 5600x
so should i get the fury rgb 3200hz with 16 gb
so the number is a bit rough
@paper hill for what cpu
i think a r5 4556 something like that
i know it doesnt got zeros in it
then it's not a ryzen chip
I can't think of any consumer chip that doesn't have a 0 lol
like even intel chips are like 4770k
my
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intel i5 -3470
my dad had a spare pc so i use it for school work
but im upgrading soon
so should i go for a new build
or should i just upgrade my pc?
no it gots corsair vengance ddr4
no rgb tho
real qucik
do u guys have a nice glass case?
you sure? because the i5-3470 only supports ddr3
bruh hkajshjkhdshakdgajyew
dam
alr
ima just go ahead and build a new pc
ill wait then\
ty
We can help with a new pc
If you want
Give us budget and anything you can reuse, and we give you a list.
@paper hill just going to say something you most likely wont like to hear: But if you cannot even be bothered to look up a small detail like that? i would strongly recommend that you get a prebuilt. Because are you ever in for a "fun" time building your own.
Heh
Or, to be reworded, "There's a ton more for you to learn if you want to build your own, and it will be an annoying process"
I learned the hard way. My first build, I did like no research outside of the compatibility checker on pcpartpicker.
My board died within 6 months.
nothing prevents that @sly vessel
(unless it was a component compatibility issue)
Nah, but it was a cheap board
@hollow thorn then it would not have worked in the first place
Also I definitely didn't get the best value for my money
cheap/expensive <- neither matters for what you describe @sly vessel
its just a bad roll of the statistics dice
@gritty meadow I mean like 10900k on a poor h410 type of compatibility
As in one part isn't rated to work well enough with another
Or like trying to Daisy chain 10 fans off a single 1a header
That kind of thing
boards are a LOT harder to kill than people think
Because cheap boards usually don't have efficient VRMs, and don't cool them well
but people are also a LOT sillier than the engineers making the boards plan for
generally just bad perf
Ah
(yes yes, there is a limit etc)
I thought it'd slowly kill it
generally, the manufacturers would be "happy" if boards died a week after warranty
but generally, boards dying inside of warranty? bad with extra bad (for their bottom line)
and yes, ofc there are exceptions (there ARE bad board designs, just like anything else)
but rule of thumb: things dont just "die" after 6 months
and if they do. Thats what you have warranty for
and you get to test if you have backed up your BS
I see
this ofc does NOT exclude a user just flat out fibbing up a storm about what has actually happended to the hardware
ofc
@sly vessel that wasn't directed at you
for you, it was still just you got unlucky with a board that died
I was just talking to Naed about theoretical stuff
@hollow thorn isnt it beautiful? :>
fun
a ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 wouldn't support dual monitors right?
@proper lava why are you asking about motherboard supporting dual monitor..?
oh wait oops

ok i got confused for some reason
dumdum
Be nice kiddos
what is the best mobo you guys can recomand for around 100?
its fine if its alil more, right now im thinking of the as rock b550 phantom, is that any good?
B550m pro4 at 105$
Aye I was able to get the tomahawk x570 for retail price at least one good thing came out of today since I wasnt able to get the 3070
me too 🙂 been wanting to do a build for a while with the tomahawk
They must have got a big shipment cuz it's been over an hour or two and they still have them
max 5 per person should tell you something
lol that asus board is shaped just like the early ATX boards from long ago
Yeah
I just went back to see that cuz I legit got the restock email and never bought something so fast in my life out of fear of missing it @neat estuary
can a ryzen 3 1300 use 3600 ram
I don’t think so and if it can why would you put that much in it
It can use the ram but not a 3600 speed is my guess
aaaaahhhh'
now ill have to tune it lower
ok so any suggestions my friend went ahead and bought it
How much are 1300 now
New everything
i got him a 240gig ssd
he has a A320 motherboard
a 1050ti
ryzen 3 1300
and one stick of 8 gigs of ram
he was useing a hhd
that and you cant even get new ryzen 3's
Wdym
you cant buy them at msrp
The ryzen 3100 you can get for 99 on adorma
Plus shipping
Which for me is only $5
wait nvm i thought you were talking about finding the other cpus at msrp
so what were you saying?
Nothing I’m just saying you can get newer ryzen 3 for decent price
who wins in performance for gaming? Amd ryzen 7 3700x or i7-9700k
but amd can beat intel in multi core gaming right?
Ryzen 7 3700x vs i7 9700k (RTX 2080 OC)
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no not really cores dont matter so much in gameing
its mostly single thread preformance
oh okay
but cores matter for just about everything else
i heard amd new processor can beat intel in everything now
yep
I would say the preferred cores for a pc is 6
should i wait or buy the amd ryzen 7 3700x?
except for price
Yeah just if i had 300 dollars for a cpu
but either way its gonna be out of stock fast for sure
so i got no clue what processor to buy
What gpu are you getting
what do you plan on playing and whats your budget
uhh around $1200
thats a good budget
Ok so 3070
probably not @whole frost
but they are out of stock already
im probably not gonna get my hands on it untl next year
Wifi or Ethernet
1200 will get you a solid 3070 build and a little more will be a 3080 build
worth the wait
i was thinking to getting a rx5700xt
but idk
or maybe wait for amd new graphics card
Why are the rtx 2000 series so overpriced atm
because now they poop
cause of covid and the supplies and demands are running short
dwella what processor would you recommend for playing games like fortnite, gta 5, and apex legends?
for like a 1k-1200 budget?
yeah
i usually stick with a ryzen 5 3600
but the new ryzen 5 5600 (the non x one) should be coming out early next year at $220
yeah but i rather buy a new one
is a amd ryzen 7 3700x with a 5700xt a good build?
It doesn’t really matter you just don’t get a warranty
Ok
it's a pretty good build but if you're just gaming i'd go less on cpu and more on gpu
oh okay
they have very similar gaming perf iirc
How much was the 2060 when it first came out
Really
yeah
yeah
bruh a rtx 2070 super is a cost of a rtx 2080ti
yikes
but amd is catching up to nvidia tho
amd is king rn
Bro new on eBay 2060 for like 300-350
oh
my bad
Oh
Then I guess not that good of deal
I can’t wait until COVID is over then prices will slowly go back to normal
theres no point of buying rtx cards right now if they are really overpriced
covid ain't gonna be over anytime soon my friends
yeah
they said the vaccine would come out this month or last month
and we are still waiting for the vaccine
just another step towards the supervirus that will one day wipe us out
im still choosing over amd ryzen 7 3700x or intel i7 9700k
Y
idk
Y doesn’t intel get a nicer cooler they look so cheap
no
tf
amd cooler are wayy better
than intel cooler
Novey what would you choose amd or intel?
Wdym that’s what I just said
Amd for cooler and because I’m using it in my first pc build
oh okay
Intel I heard has better perf tho
Well yeah
i might as well choose amd
What’s better 3100 or 9100f
Budget cpus most people don’t know the answer
And yes the 3100 is better but for p2p idk
i just like it how intel knows they are getting beat by lowering their cpu price
Lol
so um
I tried enabling XMP
and I rebooted
and it said "Doing automatic repairs" so I had to set it back a
and I was wondering what I am doing wrong
I have a asrock steel legend mobo and corsair vegeance 3200 16 gigs of ram
lmao how does apple beat amd to 5nm
@carmine lynx try upping your FCKLK or whatever its called to 1600 (I'm not sure if this is default with XMP)
apple has a lot of resources
lol yeah i think they took TSMC's thing for AMD and just lisenced it or whatever
no wait
Apple uses ARM
yeah so ARM architecture with TSMC 5nm
makes sense
what would be the cheapest or best value cpu that wouldnt bottleneck a rx 6800?
you can say that the other vendors should be happy that apple is willing to spend that amount of money on 5nm foundry production
it all helps in bringing wafer cost down
mmmmm wafers 😋
yummy silicone wafer performance make me bbbbbbrrrrrrrrr😋
@graceful sonnet xD why do u want the cheapest cpu possible? just get a less powerful gpu and balance ur system :P
graphics aren't everything u know
are the 5600x stock anticipated to sell out fast
i was hoping to buy one around mid december
yea same
When will Intel's rocket lake come out?
2021 exact date unknown
In theory q1
Ok
but, considering their quite ... fluid sense of time ... wait until you actually see them in the shops before you start planning to potentially buy them
@neat glacier yeah but I don’t want to have to upgrade the gpu for a while
@neat glacier buh yeah ig ur right
whats a good cpu on the lga 1151 chipset
What chipset
Because there's like 3 generations of chipsets on LGA1151 that aren't compatible with chips from other generations.
help
I keep trying to turn on XMP on my corsair vegeance ram and I keep getting to the motherboard screen and it just freezes
What exact kit and what motherboard?
2x8gb?
yeah
Try doing it manually
and what happens if I mess up?
Reset cmos
Hi! I am not sure but I'm pretty sure I fried my cpu. If I put it into a different motherboard will it kill that board?
@hollow thorn so I been tinkering with my motherboard this evening installed my cpu and cpu cooler plugged in the cpu fan. Generally what is the cpu optional header next to the cpu fan header for?
Also just curious is it better to keep that tiny switch on the stock amd cooler at Low or High? It's already at L so I figured I'd keep it there since people say it makes it significantly louder on high
wha
CPU_OPT?
might be fan header that's just labeled as a secondary CPU fan header
@hollow thorn yeah I think so
I don't think there's rumors but out of speculation is there a chance at a 5700 cpu from amd at some point or did they just drop the 700?
just like the GPU product stack, we dont know the full stack yet
there will be cheaper models, we just dont know when and at what price
Dang was hoping for a new 3700x in the 5000 series basically
nothing i said prevents that from happening at some point
i know just hoping for some conspiracy talk
You're not getting that from Naed :(
Any idea what time the zen 3 CPUs will probably release?
Release date they announced
Is ryzen better than intel?
@hushed canopy in what context
@hushed canopy in what context
@hollow thorn in performance for gaming
What chip versus what chip?
Like are you trying to compare a 3100 to a 10900k, a 5600x to a 10600k, etc?
3000 to 9 gen and 10 gen
Which CPU-brand is better if I'm wanting to build a server: AMD, or Intel?
I'm planning on using it to run a Discord bot I made, and my bf's bot, and maybe an MC server as well
Planning on having it running nearly 24/7, (if not 24/7)
Whatd the budget
@hushed canopy generally Ryzen is better for multitasking intensive design and editing and Intel is better for single core processing like gaming. But that is likely changing with the new lineup of ryzens but in terms of the 3000 series cpus from ryzen vs the 10k of intel you'll get a slightly higher frame rate from intel but you'll usually pay more for an Intel than a ryzen making ryzen usually a better value depending on what you wanna do
@worn night so the ryzen 3000s is better than inetl 9k or is it the same? And thank you
In terms of what?
frame rate?
Also what would you like to compare? the 3700X to a 9700K?
like what CPU did you have in mind? 5s, 7s, or 9s?
anyone mind helping me rq im trying to find a 500 series motherboard with the flashback button on the motherboard for zen 3 i cant really seem to make a good decision
was gonna get an x570 tuf then realized i wouldnt be able to flash it
B550 board are probably a better deal
yeah just need one with a flashback bios button cause i dont have a cpu to do that
Also what would you like to compare? the 3700X to a 9700K?
@worn night yea the 3700x to whatever 9k is best
I mean are you looking to buy a 3700X? @hushed canopy
No i already have my build with a 3700x, but is for a friend asking
So i've seen some bench mark videos that have 3700x outcompeting a 9700K in gaming but generally you might get a slight frame rate increase in a i7 vs a Ryzen 7 3700x
If i remember correctly the Ryzen has 8 cores and 16 threads, the 9700K has 8 cores 8 threads. Between those two I'd say the Ryzen 7 is better those two are around the same price tho and the i7 9700K has higher clock speeds which could give more frames
It really depends what your friend wants to do
It's funny you could watch some comparison videos of the two being tested in games the i7 will have like maybe on average 5 more frames. But usage is important too so say the 9700K will be running 100 fps at 80-90% usage of the CPU. Youll see the Ryzen 3700X running like 90-95 fps but on only 50% usage so with this in mind you have some headroom to do some multitasking at the same time such as streaming or running multiple programs in the background
That's why i kinda like it more
If you want a complete CPU then take the 3700X if you maybe a competitive gamer and you want all the frames you can get then probably the 9700K
Oh ok I see, Thank u
do yall think that intel processers prices will drop once zen 3 comes out so more people will buy intel for budget builds?
@naive pendant New pricing never drop due to new generations
look at RTX 20xx when 3090/3080/3070 dropped
the prices stayed constant
look at Ryzen 2000 when Ryzen 3000 dropped
the prices stayed constant
true
look at Rx 5700/xt when RTX 3070 dropped
the prices stayed constant
there's no reason for new prices to change
yeah
for the used market (ebay), sure it might change
but for the new market (Amazon/Newegg/B&H/etc), it won't change due to new generations.
hell, 1080ti from 3 generations ago is still selling at 700$+, the original MSRP.
but honestly if intel drops prices when zen 3 comes out it would be smarter cause zen 3 processors are gonna be superior so idk
It's only wishful thinking.
guys is a ROG Strix B 450 F gaming MOBO good?
@naive pendant apply that logic to Ryzen 1st gen
there was literally no reason to buy it, Intel was better in basically every way, and there were a lot of issues with ram compatibility etc
yet it still sold
yeah true
and remember
People like Intel
it's only wishful thinking that new pricing will drop
over the course of history, prices very rarely drop because of new tech being launched
im trying to find a motherboard for my 3070, is the ROG Strix B 450 F gaming good?
so people are defo gonna use intel and 2nd generation amd
so far.
yeah
@autumn fossil GPU does not in any way affect motherboard choice. CPU does.
then tell us the rest of your "whole setup" :P
Can't make a decision off 10% of the information required
ive heard that amds new gpus might be better and more affordable then nvidias 30 series
right now I have a R 5 3400 cpu, gonna get a 3600, and then I have 16gb of ram
@autumn fossil IF you are going 3070, at least do yourself the favour of going b550 for the mainboard chipset
:/
@autumn fossil what games are you going to need the 3070 for?
(if you are in actual need of a mainboard that is)
Oh and by the way, on the "Zen 3 processors cost a lot" statement, CPUs are priced reasonably based off how they value the CPU.
cold war, maybe cyberpunk
For example, 5600x is 300$, price matching 10600k.
other games of the sort
There's reasoning behind everything.
3070 is kinda unnecessary for those games
@naive pendant except, you dont know.
Oh yea, you didn't even ask for resolution :D
cyberpunk will defo be fine with 20 series
I already got the 3070
..?
mmm
u did?
brb
when the game isn't even out yet >:D
i find you faith in your deep understanding of a game that is not out yet, to be truly fascinating @naive pendant
cus look at the minimum and recommended specs for cyberpunk. recommended never said "u should get a 30 series gpu"
ofc it doesnt
apply that logic to some other games maybe ;)
look at the original crysis requirements @naive pendant
please tell me that anything in those made it actually run "good"
k lemme look
oh yea, an example that I've experienced
Ark
Reccomends 1050ti
I have a 2070, can't get over 90fps.
reccomended is a gtx 1060 or an amd radeon r9 fury and compare that to a 30 series
that is remastered @naive pendant
it is?
Crysis is a wee bit older than that :)
:/
o
NONE of that was even remotely enough to play it nicely at a decent resolution
mhm
and hes getting a 30 series though
Even low end hardware today might have trouble.
We're giving you examples of how "recommended" doesn't mean crap
ok
the lesson you should be getting from this @naive pendant
Dont be so sure based off recommended specs
but compare that gpu to like a 2060 or 2070. he could still be playing without bad performance probably
mmm
not sure though
I got lost in this convo
@autumn fossil for now, just hang tight.
mhm
haha
its a conversation about blanket statements being bad.
@naive pendant but how do you know when the game isn't even out yet :D
i was assuming cus when u compare that gpu to a 20 series its noticably differeent
oh and by the way, with the GTX 1060 recommended for Crysis remastered, a RTX 3080 barely gets 60+fps on max settings on Crysis remastered.
but does it run well?
but how the game performs on a 20 series isnt even known cuz its not out
@autumn fossil long story short. IF you have the budget for a 500-ish USD GPU, the 3070 is a decent choice.
not sure just asking
It's not released yet
@naive pendant you seemed to think so.
@vast granite im assuming
fair, please stick to facts if possible :)
k
So i bought the 3070, and I need more hardware to work perfectly with it?
and @naive pendant its not that we are trying to jump on you. Its that people that lurk can easily take things out of context.
okay
3070 is just fine
my bad
It's a good choice still
thats why, I was going to get a 3080 but it was a little over the top
And having to clear up that kind of mess .. is just annoying for everyone involved :)
and if you're looking for a list of everything else, I can make that in a bit.
ok
well the last thing I need is a R 5 3600 cpu in my opinion
I think you should get a 5600x if possible :D
my cpu right now will bottleneck
let me check it out
$300
hmm
the 3600 is 200 but I guess I can get the 5600x
i am still strongly leaning on the 8cores (when possible in builds, even for the zen3 models) @hollow thorn
I see
so i am very much looking forward to seeing exactly how that 3600/X VS 5600x performs on nov 5th
me too
But well, I still have the same mindset Crysis had a decade ago - Faster single core perf
aye aye
but a r5 3600 isnt really old so would it bottleneck with a 3070?
and 5800x pricing is really off-putting imo.
and i will happily admit that i am thinking very very long term with my 8core opinion here.
aye aye, its not remotely as nice as the 3700x price.
this comes to mind xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Gcg-tFfu0
AMD's FX-8370 CPU was supposed to be future-proof with its 8 "cores," so we're benchmarking the Bulldozer / Piledriver FX-8370 in 2020 vs. AMD Ryzen CPUs and Intel 10-series CPUs.
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Watch our recent Intel 400...
@hollow thorn i agree its why I was looking forward for a 5700x
I checked the compatibility between the 2 and it showed that it wouldnt, or at least very little
So am I :)
@hollow thorn
the FX was a "weird" architecture
@autumn fossil don't trust bottleneck calculators
oh wrong person
that's true, but it just came to me :)
aye aye
and trust me, that marketing "spiel" was hilarious! when it was originally rolled out
means you have talked enough to upgraded
alright then i need to get the 56000x
and you can actually post links now :)
epic
The best investment rn would def be an RTX 3090, then you can play games 🤓
i saw an asus tuf 3090 for 3k in stock on amazon last night lmao
@worn night replace "best" with "biggest" and you got yourself a good sentence
3090 is kinda overkill
it is
It's a great budget GPU 
:/
lol
we all should have one
@worn night go calculate fan wattages in #old-cooling instead of doing dad-jokes here.
:P

oh yeah thats right, Im gonna get another set of ram :/
its gonna be overkill but, just why not
tbh 3070 would be the only 30 series gpu i would actually get
indeed
of the currently announced cards that is :)
yeah
the 3080 and 3090 are unnecessary for the games i play
that would give us a starting point to reference when talking about parts you want to get
a list of what you have NOW
oh alright
You can set things as marked as purchased if you want.
how do u make lists with a different currency other than usd?
Different regions
For example, uk.pcpartpicker.com would get you UK sellers with currency in GBP
oh ok
au.pcpartpicker.com would get you Australian sellers with currency in AUD
@naive pendant upper right is the simple answer :)
:)
oh alr
that is the wrong link :)
oops
yellow box :)
What else?
like my case and fans and leds
Specifics would be nice
?
What else exactly do you have?
a 250gb Sata ssd
and yeah what I said before
im already going to replace the cpu
I'm just going to assume everything is exactly what is on the list
and the 250gb ssd has dram
I have 4 rgb fans, 1 led strip, um and the case is from digital storm
eek
its because I bought my pc prebuilt, (worst mistake ever)
and then I started to add from their
when the time comes, I'd swap to B550m pro4 and 5600x or something like that for CPU+Mobo at the same time
Because B550 doesn't support 3xxx APUs
:/
and B450 has spotty compatibility with 5th gen Ryzen
as in, it's only going to start to come in iirc January/February
and only on select boards, not all boards
mmm
and a 3400g is kinda
i cant go from 450 to 550 just yet
yeah ik, i will
so, 3600/3700 is your next step then
is that what you reccomend?
oops i typed it wrong
or should i get something else
its what your words leave as the only logical choice if you want to pair it with a 3070
when do you plan on upgrading parts @autumn fossil ?
the cpu is the main one,
maybe being towards the end of this year, or starting next year
if I can earlier tho
thats right
but it will be a massive upgrade for you
yup
the rest can come as you go really
i get the gpu next week wedndesday
mmm, my typing is bad
so basically the 3600 is the only thing I can really get at this point
yes/no
mmm
you can get anything from the 3000 series
but 3600/3700 are the only ones that make any sense
Should i get a x570 Aorus Elite or b550 mag tomahawk with a Ryzen 5 5600x (or 3000 series) or just wait for am5
alright cool
Something that must be upgraded urgently and gaming
keep in mind: IF your mainboard OEM decides that your board gets bios support for the 5000 chips, then you could upgrade to that. But we wont know anything about that until january at the earliest (is my estimate) @autumn fossil
@granite plume AM5 = not something that will arrive for anything "urgent"
@granite plume okay, do you have anything specific you're looking for in a motherboard? Because you can get a motherboard for a lot cheaper than those two and do most of the same things.
@gritty meadow i see, so your telling me if the MB supports it, i should get a cpu from the 5000 series?
aye, might as well @autumn fossil :)
But remember, that's an "if" you can't answer for another 2 months or so, so I wouldn't bet on it.
i see, well thanks that helps, it narrowed my options down quite alot
you are very welcome @autumn fossil
@granite plume AM5 = not something that will arrive for anything "urgent"
@gritty meadow yea but i want to go with 5600x and bacause is the last gen for am4 and i dont Know if it will be supported on Am5 (most likely not) and if i should just wait or get a 3000 series
sorry we cannot give you a more "yes/no" answer
nah its all good, just as long as my cpu and gpu combo work fairly well @gritty meadow
AM5= new ram = no support for zen3 and earlier
I'm just going to give you a reference to what I would wait to get, a 5600x with a B550m pro4. 300$ cpu and 105$ motherboard.
But my question is, do you have any need for a motherboard better than a pro4?
I mean if it has good vrm and io as well i dont think so
Heh, why do you think you need good VRMs?
Look if it works till Am5 and ddr5 becomes the norm and affordable as well i think it works good
I'm asking that because it's an interesting topic that's hard to quantify and doesn't really matter to the average consumer at the end of the day. (Beyond it works and doesn't start a fire)
Check the io if you want, I think it's good enough on the pro4.
Checked it already but realtek i dunno i heard some people had problems with realtek
But i dunno if on this mobo tough
Lan
IF you are on windows, its fine
Im planning to switch to linux tough
then its on you to research what the support is like now
K
how I wish linux was more supported
How do you turn on turbo boost for ryzen like what intel has?
Its on by default
what are your thoughts on "MSI B450M BAZOOKA MAX WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard"?
decent for a mATX B450 board
good pick with Ryzen 5 3600 and Geforce rtx 2060?
what's the overall build?
I go edit now
i keep tweaking a thing or two once i a while to get best price for performance
im gonna start buying when prices drop a bit
and when the case gets restocked
if it gets restocked
I also need recommendation a motherboard with wifi because I just realized I need one
same actually... :/
Ryzen 5600x
1500
I'm guessing B550m Pro-vdh wifi also
thanks @hollow thorn
X570 plus wifi for splurging
Is 3600 MHz- C18 or 3200MHz - c16 better for programming and gaming
for what CPU
its already time to jump from a ryzen 3600xt to a 5600x or more
so few lower (16 or 18) CAS latency laptop RAM modules, so many less expensive higher (20 or 22) lol
Which CPU-brand is better if I'm wanting to build a server: AMD, or Intel?
(I'm planning on using it to run a Discord bot I made, and my bf's bot, and maybe an MC server as well
Planning on having it running nearly 24/7, (if not 24/7))
(My budget for the system is at the least 1000 (or maybe more))
Server usually means EPYC/TR for most people, but a server in that case should benefit from the more threads offered by Ryzen.
for what CPU
@hollow thorn 5600x
3600mhz cl18.
Alright, tysm
(assuming Infinity Fabric works same way as Zen 2, which it should.)
if i plan on getting 5900x, will it work on an x570 out of the box?
Crosshair VIII Hero or Aorus Master?
x570 asrock steel legend
also i don't have an amd cpu right now to install a bios update :x
@loud escarp 👋 😂
@crystal flume what? Lol
nevermind
Its the boards because of the cpu/gpu right?
Ohhhhh @crystal flume I didnt mean that to be an answer to your question lol, that was for me cause I cant choose between the boards im sorry for the confusion
it will work 😉
I dont think you will need to flash bios but I could be wrong
you should probably flash even if it does work out of the box looks like a lot of performance increase on the F31 bios for x570's
but wont i need an older gen ryzen to flash the bios?
that is the rub
😦
I would try like a local computer repair shop if you dont know anyone that has one they shouldn't charge much for a bios update
or buy a pc from best buy that has a older ryzen and return it after flashing bios = free
or a walmart or anyplace that sells PCs
i guess
according to google most x570s should work with ryzen 5000 right out of the box
Also remember that you must not spend too much otherwise you are better off just buying a new $150ish motherboard that doesnt need flashed
s
I think it might too
and then you can flash it no problem for the performance increase
im getting the x570 steel legend
hard to tell with AMD sometimes hopefully it will just work
🤷♀️
well they werent very clear in their announcement
i guess ill have to wait for youtubers to get their hands on them
and see what they have to say
says it "ensures the most comprehensive performance, compatibility, and reliability improvements for users to have the most pleasant experience with AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors
😮
compatibility and reliability sound pretty important but than they say pleasant experience like you would just have a less than pleasant experience if you dont update....?
the main reasons i went with the steel legend cause of the silver accents and it was fairly cheaper than other mobos
I've heard good things about the steel legend
well good xD
Hiddy ho people
Haven't seen Nilboggen in a while
YO
Aorus has Q flash plus mobo can flash bios with just power being supplied no cpu necessary
is crucial ballistix 3200mhz cl 16 ram capable of being oc'd to 3600 cl16?
is this ram safe to put in my pc bulid Patriot Viper Steel 16 gb 4100 gz
what is the rest of your build? usually fast RAM like that isn't worth the premium
especially if it is a Ryzen CPU
for ryzen generally 3600 is the sweet spot
Thank u
over that you get diminishing returns, and will even hurt performance
good I am trying to stream on pc so
also, get 32 not 16
You could always get a 3200 for slightly cheaper and OC it or try too.
If you want to get 32GB
Cause 32GB is expensive but it is recommended for streaming.
0Hiddy ho..
What cpu should I buy
depends on budget
I have like $1500 for pc and monitor
And want at least 1440p at reasonable frame rate
R5 3600
I don’t need to buy windows I have that already
R5 3600 + 2060s
$1200 rtx 3070 + r5 3600 build +$ 300 1440p 144hz monitor
1200$ 3070 is hard
Makes sense if I can actually get a 3070 but I feel like the odds of that are low
Aren’t they super hard to get
5600x
mhm
I would think a 600w would be a bit low for the build, no?
600 is fine
i thought the recommended power intake was 650 atleast, might want to go for that JIC
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vGykX I jsut switched out the PSU
600w plenty tho 😳
Does the 3070 not have powerspikes?
you can run it on even less than 600
I couldve sworn 750 was recommended
for 3070 iirc 650 was recommended
and if you're going 650w 80+ gold get a phanteks amp
Rip ill change my PSU in my personal build then lmao
To a 650 or 700, I would rather be safe than sorry + upgradability
fair
there will be more models in the stack
no, we dont know when
no, we dont know the price
ah ok, thx
np :)
Why should I buy ram when you can download it?
Ya just download it. Like the shinest pictures of ram you can find
don't copy that floppy!
Maybe I can download a motherboard too
You wouldn't download a car 
You wouldn't download a house
when does the ryzen 9 5900x come out?
5th iirc
unlikely
🤞
any b550/x570 board works for that
then waiting for January and seeing what the official support looks like at that point is your best bet :)
fair enough
im hopefully getting the 3080 lian li 011 mid tower and a aio
and ll120 fans
another question
so I tried turning on xmp and I got the motherboard and it just freezes
try and see if you can dial in the XMP settings manually instead
aight bet
so if you do get a x570/b550 mobo will it be able to support 5000 series out the box or will you need to flash it
out of the box
bettttt
If I were to buy a x570 board for the 5000 series should I get the Asus Rog Crosshair VIII hero Or Asus Rog Strix x570-e Gaming atx motherboard
It's not universal support
and no b450 boards currently have support
they're planning on ~jan 2021 to start releasing the beta BIOS updates that'll allow for Zen 3 on B450.
alr thanks
wait really, B550 board support Zen 3 out of the box?
oh sick
I was about to buy a way more expensive board than I need
glad I decided to read this channel
lol
Reason: Bad word usage
😳
@fresh plinth What are you buying, I got the kids 4690k and 4790k processors
I’m not entirely sure, because I’m going to wait for all of the numbers to come out, but I think I’m going to get the 5800x
Newegg hasn't listed the Zen 3 CPUS in the US yet, have they?
I mean
they arent going to be released for about 2 more days so prob not
just double check I think its the 5th
Thoughts on this? A pin is bent on my mobo and still works but concerned about the future of it
Currently running a Asus Prime H270-PLUS
Oof
@small urchin a pin where?
On the cpu socket, 1 bent pin and 1 missing
or is this worth the extra $25? already have a wifi card :/
your choice really
there arent any bad (as such) boards
look at what the board has for IO (usb types etc etc) and choose based on that
would perfer not to have to spend anything haha but now may be the time to buy?
if you want to buy, you can buy :)
you are the one that has to use your current machine
so... yeah, the risk evaluation etc has to be done by you
So with what I was saying in #graphics-cards would 16gb of ram be sufficient I assume
And also would the new ryzen 5600x bottleneck with a 3070
is the MSI b550 tomahawk worth $40 more than the B550-a PRO with the main difference only being 2.5 gigabit lan
And also would the new ryzen 5600x bottleneck with a 3070
@plush knot no
So with what I was saying in #graphics-cards would 16gb of ram be sufficient I assume
@plush knot yes
and the the 5600x will not bottle neck
ill send you my 1.5k build
So would this be feasible for a $1500 build?
@plush knot yea
but idk if u could fit a 4k monitor
u can got with a 5600x
and different ssd
and better ram
and you really dont need to pay for windows 10
but thats ur choice
Where is it sourcing a 3080 for $550
the pricing for the CPU is for the 5600x which is why its 300, the ssd i know I can, the ram is pretty good
I have windows ten that’s not a problem
and windows 10 im not paying for
ok
the pricing for the CPU is for the 5600x which is why its 300, the ssd i know I can, the ram is pretty good
@fresh river u can get 3600 mhz
ram
Where is it sourcing a 3080 for $550
@plush knot when I made the part list a 3 070 wasnt available so i clicked a random gpu
for same price
is it not at 3600 mhz?
it doesn't have rgb
it is at 3600 mhz
Makes sense
3200mhz is where corsair is best
3600mhz corsair costs a lot
u could go with ripjaws 5
im willing to pay more for a brand i trust and if im having this for a while i want it to look cool lol
g skill is trusted
thats more of a personal preference than best deal
ok for looks]then go corsair\if u dont need rgb
So I’ll probably get a different case also on Black Friday so I can get a better price
u can go ripjaws
Reason: Bad word usage
alright cya, t yfor you r suggestions though
i was proably gonna switch out the ssd possibly, and you too man
I should buy that ram ASAP since it’s on sale
the corsair vengeance?
Yeah it’s $90 rn
I would wait until black friday