#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 131

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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dont like the brand

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and heard bios was bad

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someone told me its not true but dont wanna risk

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And someone with a msi board themselves told me not to get

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:57 AM

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well, I've had my Z170A from them for almost 5 years. never had a single issue, comes down to personal experience obviously

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how does this one look? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086QSD3M4?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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my GPU is also an MSI lmao, the 2080 super gaming x trio blah blah blah

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:58 AM

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im willing to get msi anything except mobo

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Also dont want that mobo

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something with rgb aswell

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ik that sounds childish but i want pc to look clean

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I got it yeah, I mean it does have RGB

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:59 AM

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well it looks ugly still

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no offense

tranquil wolf Oct 14, 2020, 1:00 AM

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i have several MSI products, only one i have had issues with is the Gaming Edge motherboard. RAM slot was bad, RMA'd it, got it back, diff RAM slot bad this time. Tested w/ diff RAM, CPU, GPU, PSU, and tested original stuff on an AsRock mobo, worked fine.

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:00 AM

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just being honest

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yea my friend had msi board and it kept rebooting him over and over

tranquil wolf Oct 14, 2020, 1:01 AM

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mine would crash BSOD and reboot even w/ no OC on RAM or CPU

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:01 AM

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how does this look?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087GY4263?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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lowkey feel like all this is overpriced but 🤷‍♂️ not my money right :joyL

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😂*

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:03 AM

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if im paying that much i would get asus z490e

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:05 AM

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even still man, I don't mean to schiit(haha I overuse this) on your preferences, I'm just trying to justify paying an extra $150+ for fancy lights and wifi that serious gamers don't even use

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you can buy a wifi dongle for like ~$20 that has bluetooth capability

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Yep

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so z490e then?

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 1:06 AM

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does it matter?

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you will change you mind in about 3-6 hours anyway

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I wont

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lol

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:06 AM

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hey man I'm trying to be nice 🥺

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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you have said that a total of 4 times about your mainboard now

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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z490e is way to go then

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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cntrl, which one is the z490e? the $400?

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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290$

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same price

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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okay, so, still a bit much but

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we can get lower

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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@stray vortex not aimed at you at all. Just saying things that need to be said.

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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yes

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 1:08 AM

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because every time we have someone that waffles around with their decisions. They are technically blocking someone else from getting help.

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But, i cannot stop anyone from asking (nor do i want to). Nor can i stop anyone from helping (nor do i want to)

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I can however voice my opinion about it. (which i have done)

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:09 AM

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@stray vortex do i get z490a https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N3MTwP/asus-rog-strix-z490-a-gaming-atx-lga1200-motherboard-rog-strix-z490-a-gaming

Asus ROG STRIX Z490-A GAMING ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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Or z490e

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:10 AM

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do you want my honest opinion?

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:10 AM

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both fit in budget perfect one is less but wont match with build

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yes

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:10 AM

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my honest opinion is neither

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but, I know you're really dead-set on something

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:10 AM

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yes

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i dont want my first build to be ugly

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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just saying man

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white matches everything

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trust me

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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true

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but like

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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it'll reflect all the colors anyway

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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yea i guess

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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also, you just said it's your first build

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don't go with what everyone else wants you to get just because it's cool and has RGB and wifi

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that's a mistake you'll regret later when you learn more

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@stray vortex i think you would benefit strongly from having a look in #building-and-recc-chat

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to give you some context for what you are dealing with.

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I will have a look in a sec

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now cntrl, this is what I honestly recommend based on your wants

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087GY1TZ3?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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if you REALLY want wifi, and trust me you will only make use of the bluetooth because ethernet is the way to go, then you can buy a dongle

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it's even got a little RGB on the I/O section, not much but it's a clean subtlety

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:16 AM

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ok then i get that

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and modi 3 right

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:16 AM

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that, modi and magni 3(you could even get a vali 2 instead) and the HD 6XX

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senns love their tubes, I now know firsthand

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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do i get vali 2

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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well that's subjective

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move it back to #peripherals-and-displays

polar mist Oct 14, 2020, 2:46 AM

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i5-9400f or r5 2600?

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paired with GTX 1650 Super

charred venture Oct 14, 2020, 5:12 AM

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r5 2600

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for future upgradability

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because you're prob gonna get a B360 with a 9400F, just get a B450 or B550 for 2600

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Amd ryzen 5 5600X or ryzen 7 3700x

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should i wait

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or it probably would not be better

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than 7 3700x

cerulean forge Oct 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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5600x

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i have the 3700x and am going to the 5800x

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or if they ever release it the 5700x

sour sky Oct 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Which one should i get. Amd Ryzen 9 3950x or intel i9 10900k ?(something for future proof)

main pulsar Oct 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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3950x is nearly 250 dollars more

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and is 16 cores, 6 more than the 10900k

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what are you using this machine for that requires many cpu cores, but an indiscriminate number of them?

sour sky Oct 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Mostly for coding

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And little for game

main pulsar Oct 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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what kind of coding

sour sky Oct 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Machine learning

main pulsar Oct 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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thats still way too generic

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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have you actually done work in that field or are you just wanting to learn?

sour sky Oct 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I m still in college learning

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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talk with your seniors/teachers

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see what makes sense that way around

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is my take on it :)

sour sky Oct 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Sure. Thanks. But what do you think is better 3950 or 10900?

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Amd or intel?

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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depends on workload

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and again, workload is something that your seniors/teachers know more about

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because they have a chance of knowing what material and what systems you will be working with

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and how they interact with the different types of systems

grave crest Oct 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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To me it sounds like 3950x would be a better fit for you if you need raw power rather than gaming performance

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Also you said future proof so the best option for that would be get the newest gen (5000 series)

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674725744152281102/763802713791791174/unknown.png

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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what about it

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@dusky pagoda ???

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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cpu

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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?????

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Letting ppl know

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I'll leave you but we talked about that like a year ago :P

jaunty loom Oct 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Hey guys I'm in market for new mobo running 3700x

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Any suggestions

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:43 PM

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What budget and requirements?

jaunty loom Oct 14, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I'm on 250 budget, rocking 5700 XT, g.skill 16gb 3200 and 1tb intel 660 SSD

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I'm replacing the power supply as well

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Basically starting over lol

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Not bad

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@jaunty loom I mean, do you need wifi, do you need any specific IO features, need USB-C anywhere? etc.

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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and are you in the US?

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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^^ That's important too

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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(this matters for price and availability)

jaunty loom Oct 14, 2020, 5:47 PM

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No I don't need WiFi, I have direct connection, just basic pc gaming, cod, the new Valhalla game etc, I'm also in the US

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I ran 75 foot cable across my house so I could just connect directly lmao

devout mothBOT Oct 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Mr1111#1350 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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LOL

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Mee6

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go away

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@jaunty loom welp lemme not get links eaten by mee6 this time, as I was about to say, here's some boards from low end to high end, sorted lowest price top, all good boards, good sound chip, decent VRMs.

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B550m pro4
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-pro4/p/N82E16813157939

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B550 pro4
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-pro4/p/N82E16813157941

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X570-p
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-p/p/N82E16813119199

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X570-Plus
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119198

jaunty loom Oct 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Thanks much I'm check these out

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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It sucks I have to connect my future build via WiFi :/

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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it's okay

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drill a hole in your wall >:D

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:55 PM

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👀

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Don't worry, my PC is literally 1 feet away from my router, and I use wifi

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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It won't make a difference any way we get 4mbps down and like 1mbps up for the whole household :(

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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because I can't be bothered to buy a decent ethernet cable

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yea lol

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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and I already get 100/50mbps up/down with 1ms ping

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Lucky

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When I play r6s on my Xbox I average anywhere from 200-1000

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:56 PM

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(not really)

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Ping

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I average ~20-40 ping on siege

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spikes of 120 once in a bit

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which makes me want to get ethernet

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I'd kill to have even just your connection 😂

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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it kinda sucks when that kills me extremely often

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I wish we got 5g where I live but we live in a rural area out best bet is hoping for a space x satellite

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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a split second and I'm dead

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:P

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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A local internet company wants to charge $150 a month for 50mbps download and 4 up

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Do you know if a 5g hotspot will be good for gaming?@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 6:00 PM

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no

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don't do that

naive pendant Oct 14, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Sadge

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So I really gotta hope we get a good speed over here where I live :/

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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ya

sour estuary Oct 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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i was thinking about getting this is there really a big difference between DDR3 1600 and 1866 in speed? or is it even noticeable?

📎 ram_on_sale.PNG

finite elm Oct 14, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I wonder what speeds my ddr3 is at on my old PC.

I definitely didn't use matching sticks though so probably not good

grave crest Oct 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@hollow thorn BUY ETHERNET CABLE smh my head

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Literally the best thing I ever did

fallen lynx Oct 14, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@sour estuary you won't notice the difference.

magic forge Oct 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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LRDIMM is considered a completely different form factor, and can't fit or be compatible with DIMM sockets. Correct?

fallen lynx Oct 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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its some kind of server memory

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ECC/registered is generally not compatible with normal dimm slots

magic forge Oct 14, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Yeah I know, but does it need a different memory slot type/shape/size ?

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Ah, so it's incompatible

fallen lynx Oct 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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it might be the same form factor (288 pin) but they are not the same pins i don't think

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or if it is pin compatible there is stuff that has t o be supported on the CPU/chipset

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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@naive pendant i have cox gigablast

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I got like 200mbps download and 35 upload

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75$ a month

heady root Oct 14, 2020, 8:58 PM

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814 mbps down 35 up gang

worn night Oct 14, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Wtf

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Ahem

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ipc

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@naive pendant technically 5900x is nearly worse than 3900xt based only off listed specs, but is it

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They have us numbers that says otherwise

fallen lynx Oct 14, 2020, 9:10 PM

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it probably depends on the workload

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Mhm, just saying it isn't just "worse"

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It's like how people will come running at you yelling if you say "3950x is worse than 10900k"

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ipc

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20% ipc gain according to AMD.

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@naive pendant repeat after me: Clock speed is NOT everything.

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:15 PM

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For example, I remember seeing this a while back.
https://youtu.be/X6RSEU1d-g8

YouTube

Hardware Numb3rs

AMD Ryzen 3800X Vs Intel i9 9900K Benchmarked both at 5GHz!

Yes, I have overclocked the Ryzen 3800X to 5GHz all cores and benchmarked against the Intel Core i9 9900K, in gaming and productivity, with two GPUs and 2 Kit of memory, have fun!

*** The RAM speed is 3733 C14 for BOTH the 9900K and the 3800X if not stated otherwise ***
*** T...

▶ Play video

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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from the outside @naive pendant, your point is not very clear

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considering the chips are not out yet?

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there is a NDA on the reviews until november 5th @naive pendant

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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i5 10600k - r5 3600 - r7 3700x - i7 10700k - r9 3900x

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which should i get for gaming school and some editing

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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@gritty meadow did we ever get cinebench numbers for 5600x?

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Only remember 5900x and 5950x on launch

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@opaque hinge how much editing

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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we didnt @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Yea I didn't think we got official r20 single core scores

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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12/16 core was the only ones with numbers

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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how much editing
Maybe 1 video a week@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Hm, what overall budget?

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If you're at the 1500$+ area, 10700k

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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idek

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Otherwise... Hm

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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if i need to ill save a lil longer

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Save for longer for AMD launch :)

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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i was watching gamers necus and he said the 10600k oc was basically a 10900k.

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do u agree

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Yes

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For gaming*

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@opaque hinge but remember, you need dem cores for editing

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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which is best for gamin

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and which is best for multitasking

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i feel like the 10700k is my safest option

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Basically

opaque hinge Oct 14, 2020, 9:30 PM

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alr

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ill just do that

fresh river Oct 14, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Lol

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higher clock speed =/= better cpu

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the 3600xt will benchmark lower than the 5600x

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the 5600x has claims of higher effeciency

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not to mention this image

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📎 AMD-Ryzen-5000-Desktop-CPUs_Zen-3-Vermeer_17-1030x579.png

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236407
does this look good for a ryzen build?

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:20 PM

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no

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@dusty sun get 3600c16

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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its like 40$ more

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for 3600

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for a 5-6 fps dif

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and around 200+ points

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6300 to 6500

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welp guess im going with gskill

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232868?Item=N82E16820232868

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 10:24 PM

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and that is the difference X time down the line between "oh, i need to upgrade" VS "nah, i can wait a bit more"

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:24 PM

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true

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thats why I was looking at 32gbs

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Why 4x8 though?

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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if you are going 32gig, might as well go 3600cl16

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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(ATM, for Ryzen)

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

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and as mr1111 is asking. Why 4*8?

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2*16 makes so much more sense

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:26 PM

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4 dim slots with dual channel

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and if i only have 2 populated it will trigger me

gritty meadow Oct 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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your choice.

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i would personally be more annoyed when i upgrade down the line, that i will have spare dimms

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

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(I currently have 2x16gb 3600mhz cl16 Neos and I can stare at em all day and still look nice :)

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I doubt I will need more than 32gbs in the future

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Who knows what's gonna happen

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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faster speed maybe

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Remember how Crysis was optimized for future CPUs to be faster per core and not to have more cores? :)

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And now we have consumer 16 core chips

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anyways

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No one knows what's gonna be the next major innovation

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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true

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ddr5

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I could say "DDR5 is gonna have higher capacity per dimm, incentivizing developers to incorporate more ram usage with this new availability of higher capacity ram" or something like that, but that's just random speculation I'm pulling out of nowhere

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who the hell knows

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Maybe I will just get 16x2

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Just giving you some information for you to make your own decisions off of.

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:33 PM

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For gskill rn its the same price for 4x8 as 2x16

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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and tbh, the only 2 dimms thing isn't that apparent when you're sitting down and looking at your computer from where you sit, I mean this is my PC, the 2 sticks look just fine, it's not like missing stuff

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📎 IMG_20200420_150928.png

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I see what you mean

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:35 PM

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sure looking top-down might bother you

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but you're not gonna be looking that way

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Im currently upgrading most of my system

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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mhm

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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kinda debating skipping out on rgb

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my system has 0 rn

hollow thorn Oct 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yea tbh I don't care for RGB, if it performs well, I'd take it.

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as you can tell by the giant D15 xD

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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is there any rgb strips for pc available

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anywhere

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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amazon

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aliexpress

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bangood

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thousands of others

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-ph-neledkt-cmbo-rgb/p/N82E16811984031?item=N82E16811984031&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-accessories+-+case+%2F+rackmount-_-N82E16811984031&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsvDD35O17AIV-B-tBh1SLwUxEAQYASABEgIZm_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Imma get this

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looks pogchamp

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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cool

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hyperhonkrgb

sour estuary Oct 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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i bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00453R90W/ same price but just little faster 😛

dusty sun Oct 14, 2020, 11:06 PM

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my eyes

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Why

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Actual scammaz

finite elm Oct 14, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Has anyone used OfferUp?

dusky pagoda Oct 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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offerups good

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just gotta not grt jebaited

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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bruhhhh

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lmao

near cave Oct 15, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Does g.skill make good ram for ryzen builds?

opaque harbor Oct 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Yes sir

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G skill 3600mhz neo

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 5:36 AM

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@near cave they make both good and bad.

Model over brand.

near cave Oct 15, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Trident rgb 3200 MHz

heady root Oct 15, 2020, 5:42 AM

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ryzen = 3600

finite elm Oct 15, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Someone has a pc on offerup for 266$ but the cpu (I7 9700K) itself is worth more than that and I'm curious as to why. I sent them a message so I could try to figure it out.

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And aren't ripjaws also good? I got CL16 3600mhz ripjaws a little bit ago

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What's a good load temp? I'm air-cooled in a SFF case and got a max of (CPU)76 while doing 3Dmark timespy.

This pc was a 3700X/5700XT

deep vigil Oct 15, 2020, 6:38 AM

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@finite elm probably a scam if its too good to be true kinda obvious

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Ripjaws is good

finite elm Oct 15, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I have a pc collecting dust and was wondering a few things. Currently it has 1 stick of ddr3 8gb 1600mhz ram. Would it cause major issues if I put in a 4gb 1600mhz stick of ram? I don't use the pc for "gaming", just hosting a windows 10 ark server for my brother.

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 11:47 AM

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@gritty meadow I'm seeing leaks that rocket lake is 14nm, and only up to 8c16t, not 10c20t, what do you think?

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Doesn't really make sense to me for them to step back from 10c20t in a sort of downgrade

neat glacier Oct 15, 2020, 1:14 PM

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@finite elm nah ur good. just double check ur mobo supports 12 gb of ram ;)

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@hollow thorn click bait is click bait <- is what i think

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 1:39 PM

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fair nuff

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I was just confused because it's usually "they're gonna be soooo gooood" kind of clickbait

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 1:50 PM

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it goes all directions

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also, fans are not exactly known for being objective about things

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 1:51 PM

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fair nuff

split copper Oct 15, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I was thinking fans for a second instead of fans

rugged sierra Oct 15, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I have about 800 dollars to put together a list for a friend but he also wants to overclock any cpu recommendations i am thinking the 3600 but i want to know if the intel equizalents are good as well

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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hello i have a question

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MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK, Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE, MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS, or MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI?

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which is better?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Probably depends on which has the features you want
Like wifi, do you want that?
Also the io
If you care about overclocking I think the tomahawk and gaming edge are pretty good vrm for the money

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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ill probably do some overclocking

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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@opaque hinge guessing the question you asked here is the one you also asked in #building-and-recc-chat ?

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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yes.

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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please dont do that

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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alright

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i apologize

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 3:34 PM

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no worries

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do you need the wifi?

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@opaque hinge

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do you need the ps2 port

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do you need the usb-c port?

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 3:37 PM

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umm

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wifi or no wifi it doesnt matter

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idk what a ps2 or usb-c port is used for soooo

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yeah

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 3:39 PM

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pick whichever you think is prettier then

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@long geyser https://www.techpowerup.com/273359/phanteks-offers-free-12-pin-gpu-power-cables-to-their-customers

TechPowerUp

Phanteks Offers Free 12-Pin GPU Power Cables To Their Customers

Phanteks today announced the availability of the new 12-Pin GPU Power Cable specifically designed to connect the new RTX 30 Series Founders Edition Cards directly to select AMP and Revolt series power supplies. Any customers who have purchased a qualifying Phanteks AMP or Revo...

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:48 PM

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So trying to get new RAM, how can I tell if its compatible with my motherboard and CPU?

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:48 PM

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What ram and what mobo

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Ripjaws and B550 taichi

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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That should work

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Oh oops

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I forgot to include GB and alright thanks

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I would recommend 3600mhz cl16 for ryzen cpu

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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honestly I got no idea what that is

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For cl16

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Its latency

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh

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oof

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Alrighty thanks

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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And the mhz is how fast it is

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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3600 is the frequency and cl is cas latency

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Gskill ripjaws 3600mhz CL16 is good

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Lower CL is vetter

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So 2 64gb would be ok or turn it down a notch?

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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havent ripjaws become really expensive lately?

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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128gb ram?! What do u need that much for

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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yeah that so

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Nah ripjaws r good

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Thought*

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Why do u need that much

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What r u planning to do

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16gb is enough for most games

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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honestly anything

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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32 for high res video editing

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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yeah I'll turn it down a notch for 33

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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well they were cheaper a while back i got some for a buddy 2 8GB sticks for like $55

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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32*

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Anything above 32 is overkill for everyone except 8k video editing

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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2x16gb should do you fine

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Yeah more than enough

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Yeah, I was planning for modding skyrim and hoping that it doesn't fry my PC

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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wouldnt more help with the exporting time though?

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unless that a misconception of mine.

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I'm a dunce to PC stuff so that's pretty much self explanatory for the 128

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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well im planning on upgrading to 128 later on as well

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Overkilll and expensive

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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What programs needs 128 anyways

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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No one needs more than 32

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64 max

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I know it's a damn lot of it but

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Skyrim is so old lmao it will crash bc of this own engine limitations before your ram becomes a problem

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Well yeah but I need to upgrade (also my dumb self realized what I did and I actually had 2 32gb instead but I'll turn it down)

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Mods

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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me im a nimation major so i plan for this build to make it past some 7 years

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Huh

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For me I plan to install a ENB for Skyrim that somewhat fixes how things look but not to extreme measures

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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You only use enough ram for everything to be loaded, it's not like extra free ram increases speeds or anything

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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huh

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Exactly

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No need for 128

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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like I said I'm a dunce to PC stuff so

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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If u have extra budget get better cpu/gpu

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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I got a Ryzen 7 3400

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I think a 3400

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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3700?

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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You only get a performance bump when you didn't have enough ram beforehand

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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3800?

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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there is no 3400

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3500x is china exclusive

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Get a ryzen 9 5950

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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3300x is basically always out of stock

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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theres the 3400G

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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If u have extra

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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no 3400 no suffix

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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but its a ryzen 5 not 7

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Probably 3700

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Or the r7 5700x

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I cant exactly look

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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3700x

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there is no 3700 non-x

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Or get a 3080 or something

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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anyways where's the list?

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Dont waste money on excessive amounts of ram

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Yeah send a list

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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oh boii ram on sale here we go

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dont do that ^

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I'll just walk away if it's like a 10000$ pc

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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unless youre builfing a new pc

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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A list?

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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pcpartpicker.com/list

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yeah go to ^^

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Ah that would be helpful actually for getting a new PSU

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Forgot to put https://pcpartpicker.com/list

System Builder

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Here

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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3500 is china exclusive? What's special about it? It good?

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Old one I think decided to die so

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Weird version

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No need for it

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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So what I got is a Ryzen 7 3700x

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Send the listtt

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Much easier

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Alright

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Lemme put together what I got now

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For the CPU cooler, what's the Wraith Prism?

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Its included amd cooler

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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CPU came with it but it wont show

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Stock cooler good enough for no oc

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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but since you know I dont need to find it

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@naive pendant it's a 3600 with no HT

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so not great

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it's 6c6t

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it's like a cut down chip

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Weird

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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? @naive pendant make the list and send it

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So we can help u

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@naive pendant idk what u want from asking

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Use pcpartpicker, it's very useful for a variety of things

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including compatibility, pricing, and getting help.

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Mm and u can make a list for a bed on it lol

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:09 PM

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That's what I'm doing now

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Give a moment

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Ok

long geyser Oct 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@gritty meadow interesting. Nice to know they do it for free. But still same warranty issue like Intel RAM OC. Third party cables void warranty - just dont need to tell them is all. I wonder how much they enforce that rule.

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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My motherboard isnt popping up

magic cedar Oct 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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?? Wdym

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Probably cuz its not compatible

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What cpu and what motherboard

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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i think he said the b550 taichi

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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B500 Taichi, AMD Ryzen 7 3700x

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B550*

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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ye

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I used the newegg PC maker

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I didn't know

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFhPsX

System Builder

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Where to get this^

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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500 for a 2060 is tooo much

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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My GB is just a single stick of 8gb

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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isnt it usually 300-400?

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@long geyser dont know mate, dont know. But thought it would be a nugget of info that was worth sharing with you at least :)

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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It is

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It's the same thing I got but I got when it was 350

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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with that you can get a 2070

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Not sure why but the specs say the same

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@patent mortar 2060 (non super) has a MSRP of 300 USD

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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or maybe wait for the 3070?

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that is a non super variant on thelist

long geyser Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@gritty meadow yeah, makes the AMP be a nicer option (whenever it has stock)

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for people with FE

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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ye

gritty meadow Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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aye, and i have been seeing it in stock a fair deal actually.

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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When I bought it, it was 359

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USD

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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oh well thats good themn

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so you have all of that ready right

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah it's the same specs it's now a different price which is weird

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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you have it built but you are looking to get more ram right?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Well I cant use it now, had to send my motherboard back

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Yeah

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For a new one*

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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what happen to it?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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RAM slots were faulty

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3 out of the 4 didn't work and gave a code error

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3 out of the 4 slots*

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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damn

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that is bad

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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yep

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I wasn't too upset knowing my luck

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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is it that bad?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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The people I talked to were donks though

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Believe me

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Stuff like this happens quite a bit

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mainly of my fault but anyways like I said I wasn't upset so I was like

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ok, someone here told me to send it back as it has a 3 month warranty and I was like ok

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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the mobo is pretty good

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Mhm

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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you can overclock with it

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I didn't mind it as it worked and I dont overclock

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I only use it for DayZ

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i just think its a little tooo good for your CPU

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Few other games for boredom

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Motherboards are one of the places where you can cheap out a bit on :P

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as long as it works

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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if im correct the 3700X is a 65watt CPU right?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah it worked great besides the 3 faulty RAM slots but i only had 1 GB

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1 8gb*

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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1 8-pin connector is more than enough

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but you have 2 which gives you a lot of leeway for overclocking even the 3950X

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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2 cores?

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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65w tdp.

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I dont overclock and I don't really plan on it

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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single 8 pin works just fine even for 3950x OC

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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2-8pin connectors

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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you will struggle to use more than like 170w heavy oc

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you only NEED the second pin if you go for crazy ln2 OC

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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oh wow

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didnt know that

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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on 3950x

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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i have a 3900X and the MSI X570 Unify which comes with 2-8 pins

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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What's a uhh a good PSU for this build anyways

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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to be safe id go for a 850 watt PSU

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I had scrapped old one but was planning on getting a new one asap

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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either Seasonic or Super Flower

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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An old one*

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Huh

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Alrighty thanks

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I dont really look for anything flashy or fancy just as long as it works its good

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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it would let you upgrade later on and also power the 3080

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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GPU?

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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yeah

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I mean

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modelbrand

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Seasonic makes bad PSUs too :P

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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yeah

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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ah I'm happy with mine now plus with my budget I'd rather not strangle my bank account more than I have now

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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the Focus GX-850

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I'm guessing I go with Super Flower?

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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it was cheaper just yesterday for 150 now its 180

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I was thinking more of Corsair or something

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Not sure if that's good or not

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@patent mortar I grabbed some sources to make sure.

📎 missing-image.png

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PBO only draws ~150w

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you'll struggle to pull much more

patent mortar Oct 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Geez the efficiency of the Ryzen line up puts intel to shame

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i knew it was bad but GEEZ

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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oof

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good thing I have the ryzen 7 3700x

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so mr1111

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Corsair 850W any good?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFhPsX

System Builder

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This

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For this*

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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what are some good mobos for overclocking 10600k

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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what the hell is that list xd

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@opaque hinge I suggest you don't buy mobos just for overclocking

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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That's basically what I have now besides the motherboard and PSU

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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should i stick with the gaming edge wifi then

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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It'll work

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oh fun @naive pendant you already own it?

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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is there something better at that price point?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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not the PSU but the others yes

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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rip

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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B550 Taichi

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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dramless ssd

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@opaque hinge what's the price?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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It worked so

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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$200 USD

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@opaque hinge check aorus pro pricing

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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dramless?

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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$240

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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hm

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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will the prices drop on cyber monday/black friday

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Can you check Z490-A and Z490-Plus?

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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z490 plus is 200

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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what about asus prime z490-a

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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and z490-a is 160

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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from quick look, Asus Z490-A would be preferred

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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that one is 180

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alright

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thanks

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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mhm

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just in terms of VRMs

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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idk what that is lol

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Voltage regulation modules

opaque hinge Oct 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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oh

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i see

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 6:00 PM

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So would the Corsair work with that build?

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Or get a different one

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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"would the Corsair"..?

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specify?

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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corsair 850w

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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which one

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there's like 20 Corsair PSUs :P

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all with varying qualities

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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RMx is good. Just look at pricing, don't pay over ~135$ for it

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Alrighty

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Well thank you

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yw

fresh river Oct 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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will b550s and R5 5600x need BIOS updates

near cave Oct 15, 2020, 9:10 PM

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B550 will need a bios update since AMD said you will need to update the BIOS to run the ryzen 5000 series

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@fresh river depends

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@near cave actually, the existing AGESA 1.0.8 can boot with 5th gen according to AMD

fresh river Oct 15, 2020, 10:05 PM

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So if I was to buy a B550 tomahawk or B550-A would I need another CPU to bios update?

fallen lynx Oct 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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not if it has a bios flashback usb port

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Dont buy it yet imo

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@fallen lynx even ignoring flashback atm

neat estuary Oct 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

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You will have to compare which bios version the motherboard ships with and compare it to the list that AMD released to know if Zen 3 can just be slotted. It appears we will be able to have backwards compatibility here

hollow thorn Oct 15, 2020, 10:25 PM

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AEGSA 1.0.8 released for most mobos 2 months ago

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@fresh river and usually there's also going to be a lineup of motherboards with pre-updated bios

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Like MSI's b450 max

fresh river Oct 15, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Aight I’ll double check, thankss

naive pendant Oct 15, 2020, 11:47 PM

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What's the intel equivalent of the r7 3700x?

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10700k?

worn night Oct 15, 2020, 11:56 PM

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more like an i7 9700K

tranquil crag Oct 16, 2020, 12:35 AM

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can anybody here help me with a question on PSUs?

fallen lynx Oct 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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maybe, but only if you actually ask it

midnight pollen Oct 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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ask, and if someone knows they will answer 🙂

past otter Oct 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Can someone help me

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Should i just buy the ryzen 9 5900x when it will come out?

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And what is the best mobo with ryzen 9?

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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just chill until we get real info

past otter Oct 16, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Ok

naive pendant Oct 16, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Is it better to have let's say 2 16gb

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Or 4 8gb

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Kinda curious though

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I dont think there is a difference but I legitimately dont trust my judgement

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Basically the question is
Is 2 16GB of RAM better or is 4 8GB of RAM better

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Or is it literally the same thing

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Dunno tbh

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I'm assuming the 4 8Gb of ram takes up space incase I ever want to upgrade or something

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well it will

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Ye

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I suppose since the 2x16 will be running dual channel you should be good

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Alrighty

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Thanks

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Well now I'm in another issue

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B550 Taichi ASROCK with Ripjaws 2 x 16Gb

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Looked and tried to use part picker but my motherboard didn't show on that so

copper pike Oct 16, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Which is better? Aorus a520m or b450???

brisk stag Oct 16, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Hi Guys,
I want to upgrade the memory on the pc between those:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2X16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz C18 AMD Ryzen Memory Kit - Black
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 X 16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4-28800) C18 1.35V Desktop Memory - Black

2 Questions:

why the 3600 is cheaper than the 3200, should it be the other way around?
Is there a real difference between Ryzen memory kit to a desktop memory kit?

naive pendant Oct 16, 2020, 11:14 AM

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They latency is higher so that might be why it's cheaper
Generally you should aim for cl16 or lower

worn night Oct 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@naive pendant what's the latency mean

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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google

digital pond Oct 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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hi everyone newbie here and really need help I have a Dell Inspiron 3471 with only 4gb memory, on have 1 other slot for memory, was told by Dell that I could add any size memory to that slot as long as it the same. Well I don't know what to get and after looking at all the prices about had a heart attack. My computer is really running slow and need to get it to speed up some. I have the info on what Dell told me to get but as usual they were not much hep.

naive pendant Oct 16, 2020, 1:41 PM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/512483/intel-core-i9-9900k-coffee-lake-36ghz-eight-core-lga-1151-boxed-processor

Micro Center

Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 3.6GHz Eight-Core LGA 1151 Boxed Pr...

Get it now! Find over 30,000 products at your local Micro Center, including the Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 3.6GHz Eight-Core LGA 1151 Boxed Processor

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only 300$

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 1:52 PM

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@digital pond heyo, first, you might want to look into an SSD too, a SSD can help a lot of system responsiveness when you only have a HDD. Second, can you tell me the exact config you have?

viral junco Oct 16, 2020, 3:27 PM

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only 300$
@naive pendant Yeah thats an excellent deal but the problem is that its store pick up only and micro center only has like 7 locations in the whole country

naive pendant Oct 16, 2020, 3:35 PM

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for 400$ off i would drive 2 hours

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Uhm

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@naive pendant where are you getting the "400$ off" figure from?

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And side note, for someone like me, I live 3 hours from a microcenter, so I'd have to spend a whole day going over to like Chicago for one thing.

naive pendant Oct 16, 2020, 3:43 PM

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"save 400"

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Oh because 9900k has been 500$ for the last like half a year, and 400$ for the past month.

digital pond Oct 16, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@digital pond heyo, first, you might want to look into an SSD too, a SSD can help a lot of system responsiveness when you only have a HDD. Second, can you tell me the exact config you have?
@hollow thorn ok guess I am not exactly computer smart. What exact config are you talking about. I am so sorry I don't understand computer language.

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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As in, what specifications?

worn night Oct 16, 2020, 5:05 PM

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They don't know what an SSD and an HDD is

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I think

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@digital pond how old is your laptop?

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I feel like updates every year are more designed for what's standard which in many cases is a newer computer with say like 8gb of memory. Your memory is probably straining to run all the tasks which are made for a newer system

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I too happen to have an old laptop from 2009 and it's specs are pretty out of date to run newer larger applications and programs

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Simple programs running in the background will hog up alot of memory and maybe cpu

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@worn night Inspiron 3471 seems to be a desktop to me

worn night Oct 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Whatever the case it's specs sound old. @hollow thorn lol

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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@worn night I mean, i5 9400 here
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-Desktop-i5-9400-diagnosis/dp/B0883FQDD9

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not that old

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that's why I wanted specs

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because I wanted to see if it'll need ddr4 or ddr3

worn night Oct 16, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Oh wow

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That one comes with 12 gb memory

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Hmm

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Don't see much with 4gb memory anymore

cobalt wigeon Oct 16, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Is there any x570 that supports ECC?

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I want ECC support with a Ryzen 3rd gen CPU

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Why's that?

gritty meadow Oct 16, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@cobalt wigeon most of them.

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i want to buy a rtx 2060 but i have an i5-7k do i need to upgrade my cpu?

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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@cyan flume what exact model..?

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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what

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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What CPU

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i5-7k isn't a cpu

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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oh

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Like 7k as in 7000?

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I5 7000 or something?

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I don't know

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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as in 7th gen

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Which chip

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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imma pull it up wait

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:47 PM

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And the answer is likely the cpu is good enough but gotta check

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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i5-7400 cpu @ 3.00ghz

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yes good nuff

cyan flume Oct 16, 2020, 10:51 PM

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so no decrease of fps?

hollow thorn Oct 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Anything below a ln2 OCed 10900k technically decrease fps from the max you could from a 2060

small latch Oct 16, 2020, 11:50 PM

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My BF helped me put together my new build and bent some pins on my CPU. Any ideas on how to fix this..? Bent pins void all warranties. 😦

gritty meadow Oct 16, 2020, 11:54 PM

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pliers

neat estuary Oct 16, 2020, 11:54 PM

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You need something very thin and try to straighten them. If your careful it may still work

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:09 AM

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anyone know good motherboard

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:10 AM

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@supple monolith

supple monolith Oct 17, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Yeas?

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@worthy dome what budget?

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and what platform? intel? amd?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:13 AM

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im using amd @gritty meadow

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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and?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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budget 300

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:14 AM

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for the board?

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and what currency?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:15 AM

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cad

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yeah 300$ budget for the board

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:15 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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solid board for the price.

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:16 AM

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ok thanks

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:17 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/9PDkcf/msi-mag-b550m-mortar-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-mag-b550m-mortar

MSI MAG B550M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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another option.

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:17 AM

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i already have wifi at my house

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so i think ill go for option 2

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:17 AM

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are u going to connect to ur pc with wifi or ethernet?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:18 AM

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wifi

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most likely

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:18 AM

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ull need a wifi card

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or buy a board with it already on it

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:18 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi is this good @gritty meadow

MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

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@lean island does that have a wifi card^

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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yes

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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ok

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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this the one i use

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and i love it

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-pro-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144260?item=9SIAKXGCAZ5159&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-coco+market-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-9SIAKXGCAZ5159&gclid=CjwKCAjwiaX8BRBZEiwAQQxGx8VG-FjaTrZjt8oMOlgvj00nMUzu0ZnvW-FD7fclmztQC94ghHNZmhoCv5MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2f4BD3/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-b550-gaming-edge-wifi <- that is the actual link

MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:19 AM

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ok is it good naed

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:20 AM

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its a good as the others

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:20 AM

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ok ill get it

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thanks

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@gritty meadow check the dm i sent you i sent all the parts ima get

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:25 AM

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post here

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:25 AM

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k

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📎 Screenshot_2020-10-16_at_5.24.04_PM.png

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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actual link

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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y

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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because much more practical to watch

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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ok

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Rowspresso/saved/6wtbK8

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idk if that works but

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:27 AM

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edit list and post that link instead

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:27 AM

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oh ok

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9CZFdD

System Builder

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there

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:28 AM

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you can stop at way lower speed ram

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:28 AM

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wym

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:29 AM

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3200-3400

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:29 AM

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the processor?

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@lean island

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:30 AM

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the ram

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also man u got u a beefy build

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get u an ssd

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Also why a 3950x and a 2060?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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get u an ssd
@lean island done that already

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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not to mention the new 5900x is coming out, wait for that

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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in my parts

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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on ur list

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u dont

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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just havent added it on the list

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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o ok

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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why do you need 64gb of ram

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

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why not?

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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whats your build for?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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gaming

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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oh boy

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whats your budget?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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like 5k

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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last comment from me on it

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/G4MTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-64-gb-4-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18q-64gvk

G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

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that does the exact same as what you had

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Get a 3090 then

gritty meadow Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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for half the price

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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a 2060 is kinda bad

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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its all out of stock tho fallen

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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i mean

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If you have a big budget

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no reason to go for a 2060

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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how tf do i get a 3090 when its all out of stock

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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row

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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wait for it to become in stock

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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keep ur 2060

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and then when 3090 comes in stock

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buy it and sell ur 2060

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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thats what im saying

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wait for it to become in stock
@fresh river yes wait months and months smh

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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It wont take months and months lmao

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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he prolly was just making sure u were aware of 30 series

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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is it a good build tho

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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2060 for a permenant card is just kinda useless now with the 30xx series

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:34 AM

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its not gonna be permanent

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Then it seams fine yeag\h

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just make sure the clearance for all the parts ill be fine

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:35 AM

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lmao

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@gritty meadow do i need a hdd and ssd or just ssd

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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well

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its good to have ssd

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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how many GB is your ssd

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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1tb

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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put ur os and games on ssd

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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You should be fine

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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and all ur other files on hdd

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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ok

fresh river Oct 17, 2020, 12:36 AM

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1TB is a good amount though

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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ill just get a ssd @lean island cause im not gonna have much stuff

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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yea u can always get a hdd later

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:37 AM

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worst case scenario external harddrive

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@lean island 32gb of ram instead?

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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what is ur pc use?

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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mostly gaming

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and streaming

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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32 would be plenty

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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alright thanks

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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most gaming only needs 16 max

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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nah ill do 32 screw it

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:41 AM

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u should do 2x16gb then

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instead of 4x8

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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yeah ik

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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cause since u were originally wanting 64 u might change ur mind down the road and itll be more expensive to upgrade to 64 if u have 4x8 sticks

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:42 AM

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yeah im doing 16

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2x16

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great thx

lean island Oct 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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np

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i like that monitor

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📎 eaab95980f7497592fbaca90324af649.png

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i use this one

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i really like it

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https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg27aq-90lm0500-b013b0-27/p/N82E16824236987?Description=VG27aQ&cm_re=VG27aQ-_-24-236-987-_-Product&quicklink=true

worthy dome Oct 17, 2020, 12:44 AM

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nah im good with the one ima get currently

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Big Dilf I just purchased it from Dell this past Feb 2010 and it is a tower not a laptop

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 2:42 AM

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That explains

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😲

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Iam having the hardest time trying to answer anyone on this forum plus trying to find where you all have answered me. I am trying to post a pic of my specs for the computer but cant even do that.

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Since I can't figure out how to post a pic am just gonna type it all out

mild jackal Oct 17, 2020, 2:52 AM

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You can post a pic now

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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how

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 2:54 AM

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try again

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ur name is light green u can post a pic

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:54 AM

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ok I am sorry I don;t know how on here

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 2:55 AM

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You on your phone or on pc

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:55 AM

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right now I am on mac

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 2:56 AM

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click button on left of text box

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📎 unknown.png

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:56 AM

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📎 inspiron.png

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awesome thank you

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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ooh u want more ram

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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yes I do

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 2:57 AM

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16gb would be a good upgrade

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Honestly that would make sense even if you bumped it to 8

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I just purchased 8gb was told by Dell that I could add 8gb to the 4 gb

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Assuming it's just a hard drive for storage?

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Did you get DDR4?

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Or DDR3?

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 2:59 AM

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yes

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ddr4

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Also make sure you got the compatible pin number

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 2:59 AM

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its a 9100

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obvs ddr4

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Dell 8 GB DDR4 SDRAM Memory Module - 288-Pin - 2666 MHz - 1.2 V SNPY7N41C/8G

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this is what dell said I needed

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:00 AM

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you can get any type of ram in theory

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but that one is confirmed to work with your pc

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:00 AM

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awesome

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:01 AM

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just buy one and get 12gb

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more than enough

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:01 AM

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that is what I did purchased 8gb already have 4 gb

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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open up the pc and put it in a slot

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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I will thank you

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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make sure to unplug from the wall

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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He probably only has two slots @charred venture ?

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:02 AM

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and press the power button multiple times

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he might

worn night Oct 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I dunno what comes stock

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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already had it open was just gonna replace the one that was in there too but its to hard to get to the 4gb would have to take out several things to get to it

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yes there is only 2 slots

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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yeah put it in the other one

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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why do i press the power buttom multiple times

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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no need to take it out

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cycle out the electricity

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just a precaution

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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awesome will do thanks for telling me that

charred venture Oct 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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np, its a low chance that something'll go wrong, but no chance is better than low chance

digital pond Oct 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I have another problem with my computer and dell tells me that is not warranty problem they say its a clash problem with my external hds

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but when I unplug hds it still happens

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LOL

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thank you everyone for your input

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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hi i need help, i cant get any ram inside my system to get past 1066mhz. no matter what I do
I just bought brand new corsair RGB pro ram, QVL guaranteed for my tomahawk max b450
i keep changing the ram mhz in bios and saving it but nothing happens it just stays at 1066

the only thing I can think of to do is use ryzen master but people say that can damage my system

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CPU is ryzen 5 2600x so i should at least be able to get 2933 right? im so confused.

naive pendant Oct 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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So when the 3900x says its base clock is 3.8Ghz and a boost clock of 4.6Ghz, does it mean that it can run anywhere between 3.8 and 4.6 depending on the task or is there something i'm missing? still kind of new to this

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 5:51 AM

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@lament jewel manual or xmp

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I am changing in XMP via BIOS to 3200mhz, puts its back to 1066 every time, no matter what I change and save

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 5:52 AM

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@naive pendant the max it'll boost to is 4.6ghz, the lowest it'll be is 3.8ghz on stock, when you run a task, it'll do some wacky stuff and boost as high as it sees fit, and under high load, it'll boost as high as it can

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@lament jewel tried using manual freq+timings?

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And what exactly is the kit rated for?

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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the kit is 3200mhz rated, corsair rgb pro 4 x 8gb stick. bought it because it looked nice plus was QVL certified for the tomahawk max

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Eh, ignoring qvl, run em at 3000mhz cl16-18-18-18-38 manually

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And see what it does.

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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it wont let me change them at all

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Excuse me?

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Turn xmp off

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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just stays at 1000mhz every time

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 5:54 AM

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In bios

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Turn xmp off, edit frequency, edit timings

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Timings is the important part most people just skip over

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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now says 1500hz

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first time i got it to change

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i couldnt figure out to change the timing manually so i clicked something called "try it now" in the bios menu

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which had your provided timings

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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MSI?

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Good

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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yes

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Yea memory try it is very useful for one click without messing with timings

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Btw, 1500mhz ram frequency would be 3000MT/s, also known as "3000mhz", just in case you didn't know.

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I didnt, I do not know a lot about this stuff, I started becoming a PC enthusiast like four months ago lol. still a lot I dont know unfortunately, its a learning process

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thank you, task manager says im at 3000mhz now.

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so even if cpu-z and ryzen master etc say its 1500 its actually 3000?

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Ahem, it's actually running at 1500mhz, but DDR ram (Double-Data-Rate) has double the bandwidth it has frequency, so 1500*2

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Which would give you 3000MT/s

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And also known as "3000mhz"

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Could get a bit confusing

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I..feel so dumb now

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this whole time I thought i was just getting 1000

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I barely know why it is what it is sooo
Don't worry about it, this isn't common knowledge

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:06 AM

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so while im here
i have a ryzen 5 2600x
and the speed keeps going from 2.3 or something to 4.1, does that mean its unstable and is there someway to fix that?

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Anyways, I assume you've tried memory try it's 3200mhz cl16 thing?

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Nope, completely normal CPU behavior

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:06 AM

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oh ok thank god

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Tbh, only time you can reliably keep an eye on the CPU is when you put it under heavy load like p95, other times it could be boosting high asf with a high auto voltage for little reason, and changes around a lot.

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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i tried the 3200mhz cl16 timings you provided but it wouldnt change it. the 3000 is the first time i had success. i had also tried other options in the try it menu with no change

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Interesting

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Side note, was just the 2x8 kit certified on QVL or the 4x8gb kit too..?

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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3200 is the sweet spot for ryzen so it makes me sad i paid for this ram with no success. but before i couldnt get past 2133 with crappy g skill ram, so i suppose thats a plus

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4x8 was qvl as well. checked super thoroughly, i have had terrible ram problems in the past

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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(before someone comes in and yells at you, 3200mhz would be the sweet spot for 2nd gen Ryzen, the sweet spot for 3rd gen Ryzen lies at 3600mhz)

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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please dont yell at me lol i have no idea

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that makes sense, newer chips faster ram correlations

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Mhm, anyways, ram can be pretty wacky

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You got a spare usb drive laying around?

neat estuary Oct 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I would try turning off Gear Down

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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GDM?

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i got some usbs yeah

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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GDM shouldn't matter if you left CR auto, which should just go 2t

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@lament jewel I'm thinking you could try memtest86 just in case to check if the kit has any issues

neat estuary Oct 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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It occasionally screws with XMP

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Tho I could be wrong

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@neat estuary they were trying with the MSI try it thing, which iirc sets primary timings, but leaves secondary and such on auto

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Could also be wrong there

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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ah memtest ive used it before, great program

neat estuary Oct 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Never worked with that function so idk.

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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hey my names green now! cool

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Yay you can post links and pics now

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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thank you for your help seriously

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i was so frustrated for hours on end with this, and the internet surprisingly wasnt very clear on timings or anything you mentioned, people kept telling me to use ryzen calculator

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Eh, Ryzen dram calculator could've maybe helped, but if you're at a point where xmp doesn't work, OCing it seems like a stretch

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:18 AM

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I was nervous using it, bunch of warning messages from others in the community saying software OCing is far more dangerous then using the bios or something of that nature
Im glad I came in here and asked first

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I mean I wouldn't agree with that, but ram OCing is something to just... Stay away from...

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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oh no! why is that? im assuming large amounts of instability, ram failure etc
ram seens finiicky from the beginning. ive had nothing but issues with it.

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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First, if the ram didn't like it, you're forced to reset cmos/flash bios, there's no ways around that

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Second, instability.

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Third, bios only, can't be CPU/GPU oc with software that you can change clocks in the spot

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And fourth is my opinion, but annoying to test stability

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CPU oc is simple p95 for like a minute for me, GPU a quick run through furmark, GPU vram is just quick run through heaven

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But ram with memtest is just annoying to me :p

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:24 AM

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GPU vram can be tested!?!? omg yes

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Memtest sessions are hours long, arent they? i tried a couple tests with my g skill aegis kit (whiuch was horrible btw) took awhile

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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I mean that's the easiest thing to OC and test with imo

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Msi afterburner open right next to heaven running continuously

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Up the mem clock and watch for artifacts

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I'm not sure about actually good vram stress testing tools sadly

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I just know how to get it for the "stable enough for casual use and benching"

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:30 AM

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my pc used to freeze frequently, and i wondered for awhile if it was bad vram, but nothing seemed to verify if i could test for that, so what youre saying doesnt sound out of the ordinary
turned out it was bad software, i havent had a single freeze since getting a better board and fresh installing windows, at least i think it was bad software
because if it was a bad card, it would happen all the time right? idk.
I use to have the 1660 super OC card, but i switched to a 2070 super not to long ago

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Thing is, I could never get my PS4 controller working on my rig, so I had downloaded multiple third party programs that installed drivers for me. But they seemed to cause issues with GPU usage. strange

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Now with nvidias new USB c drivers, i didnt have to do any of that. made it so much easier

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Huh

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I never use controllers but ig it could deal with GPU drivers

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Most people when they plug in a controller to their PC it just normally installed something called a HUD compliant driver , but it never did for me on my old configuration. So I resorted to 3rd part applications like InputMapper and DS4.
They would always show massive amounts of GPU usage on task manager.

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Eventually I got freezes, bad freezes every two minutes

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Fun

lament jewel Oct 17, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Ive had so many problems with this rig haha. Just one day I hope it all to work in harmony so I can get a good nights rest 🙂

hollow thorn Oct 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Oh well, that's our life now, just troubleshooting from one thing to another