#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 130

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Yes. It all depends

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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technically i would agree. but i dont know if the numbers agree

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Mmm

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Between a 3600 and 3700 I would take a 3600. But it’s not night and day better

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But while I say that, unless my case has much better cooling than I thought it would, my 3700x only runs at 60c or so. I think it was a bit overkill for what I do

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Man my rig runs at 90F

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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My 2070 super is at 54 and my 3700x is from 55-62

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Does the 5600x have better clock speeds than 3700x?

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Cuz i dont rly need 8 cores

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Yes

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Mm maybe ill go for the 5600x then

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Better ipc

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Better single core perf

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Or maybe go all out and get the 5800x

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:54 PM

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The 5800 is too much for what I’d want. Idk how I feel about it being $125 more than the 3700x

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Mmm

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:56 PM

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But like others have said and I agree, I’d watch reviews and look at back you want and what you’d use and go off of that

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Eh I think the 5600x is good

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So imma go for that

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 5:57 PM

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So intel or amd for my gaming build?

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:57 PM

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That’ll be a good cpu

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Pip it depends on what budget and what all you want

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Well I want to game and the 10700k fits nicely in my budget right now

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Ofc we don't know anything but is amd going to straight up be better for gaming all around?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 6:00 PM

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if the numbers turn out true?

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basically yes

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Well.. looks like I need to restart my build from scratch
Starting from mobo bc I have no clue which to get

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Depends on what features you want. B550 has enough pcie4 if you aren’t going to fun multiple pcie4 drives. If you want multiple then go with x570

winged parcel Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Should i go for the 3700x or do i go for the 5600x?

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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What do you mean by multiple pci4 drives like a gpu and an ssd?

winged parcel Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I'm leaning towards the 3700x for the two extra cores

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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What do you mean by multiple pci4 drives like a gpu and an ssd?
@naive pendant no just multiple ssds. Although you can have 2 gpus using pcie4 on x570

warped scroll Oct 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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PCIe 4.0 is far from needed in the average consumer desktop market

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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^

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Yes

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I'll probably have 2 nvme ssds so I guess I will be looking at x570

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Will they be pcie4 drives?

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Then again, if I stick with intel, I have the upgrade path to rocket lake in the future ..

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Without changing my mobo

winged parcel Oct 8, 2020, 6:12 PM

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but if you ever upgrade to a graphics card that needs 4.0 it will be lacking

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Will they be pcie4 drives?
@willow wagon
No I guess m2 nvmes are not pci?

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 6:12 PM

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They can be. Most aren’t though and the pcie4 drives are normally double the price

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Well many z490 boards have pci4 support tho don't they

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Like the msi unify I want

winged parcel Oct 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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but what major advancements is intel going to make that they haven't in the past 10 years

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Bit faster gaming speeds
Which looks like what amd is doing as far as games go

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All things to think about :/

winged parcel Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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but should i go for the 3700x or 5600x?

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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We don't know :(
Not until reviews

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Does the stock amd ryzen 3700x cooler come with the LED's?

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Yes

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It’s the wraith prism

tacit hemlock Oct 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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New amd lineup is interesting

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Can't wait for reviews

burnt notch Oct 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Same. It’s pretty expensive to me though lmao

tacit hemlock Oct 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I'll probably just buy a 3800xt used tbh

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Just because zen 3 is expensive lol

burnt notch Oct 8, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I was planning to do that anyways so atleast I should get a deal

tacit hemlock Oct 8, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Ya

azure sage Oct 8, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Msi b550 good board?

burnt notch Oct 8, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Which board

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@azure sage

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model_brand

azure sage Oct 8, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Yes?

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Giving us a brand and a chipset isn't enough to form an opinion

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Be more specific

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Give us the model

azure sage Oct 8, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ok

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My bad

lethal glacier Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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So... as you know and has announced their new cpus. Is the price worth it to go from a 7 3700x to 7 5800x? Maybe I’m looking at it wrong or something but advertised max frequency for 3700x is 4.4 5800x is 4.7.

full flame Oct 8, 2020, 8:34 PM

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It'd be best to wait for reviews to see what the performance looks like. They claimed a good increase in instructions per clock so the listed base and boost clock increases may not tell the whole story

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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in instructions per clock*

full flame Oct 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Yeah I was paraphrasing, thank you

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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:)

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I just bought a new computer and it came with half the ram it was suppose to, but replacing it seems like it will be more of a pain than just shelling out money and buying moe ram and installing it myself. Can anyone help me find the correct type to get?

dusky pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 9:37 PM

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say budget

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@scarlet estuary hey, can you give me the exact config you bought, and what amount you're looking for?

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Skytech Archangel - Ryzen 5 3600, GeForce GTX 1660, 500 GB SSD, 16 GB DDR4, RGB Fans, Windows 10 Home, 802.11AC Wi-Fi - Gaming Desktop (ST-Arch3.0-0054-NE) came with only 8 ram for some reason, id like at least 16

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Also, you might have some luck contacting the manufacturer for some in-store credit or something.

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Just a side note, prebuilt ram usually tend to be pretty bad, so I'm gonna go and link you a good 2x8gb kit.

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:39 PM

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sweet, thats what i was hopeing for

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To install it I would just remove the one it came with and insert the two I end up buying correct?

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Hey guys is it good to have a 4x8gb=12gb ram combo or a 8x8gb=16gb ram

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164173

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Yep. @scarlet estuary

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Uh what

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I have 4 gb ram on my pc but I am thinking of buying 8gb and making it 12 but idk if it is stable

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Or should I buy 2 8gb ram and make it 16

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I'm gonna say 8+8 just because ram tend to like having 2 of the same sticks.
4+8gb works but kinda weird capacity too

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Gotcha

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:43 PM

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@scarlet estuary need anything else?

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:43 PM

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yes, if you dont mind mone sec while i type it out

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What would your recommendation be for future proofing be? is 16 ram good enough for a few years sown the line or should i bite the bullet and get more now? its not that i cant afford it, but im not sure if it is worth it

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Dang 2 8gb is on a whole nother price range lmao

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:50 PM

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16gb is good enough for a while

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And afterall, you should be able to get more later on as needed, as it's slated to continue, we're not gonna need more than 16gb at 1080p with reasonable settings for a good while. @scarlet estuary

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Your motherboard has 4 dimm slots, correct?

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Correct

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sorry about the delay, accidently turned my computer off checking

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well I guess Ill go ahead and get the one you recommended, thankyou for all of your help

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:58 PM

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That's alright

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You're welcome.

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@scarlet estuary I was about to say, if you have 4 slots, buy 2x8 now, and add 2x8 if you need it later

scarlet estuary Oct 8, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Ill keep that in mind, thankyou again

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 9:59 PM

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:)

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Oof but 16gb is a little over board don’t you think?

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If I get 4gb then it will be 8gb of ram which could cover most games I think

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:03 PM

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eh, nice to have 16gb

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Extremely true

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But is it gonna change performance by a lot?

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:05 PM

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nah

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Performance don't change with the quantity of ram

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Hm then what is it?

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:05 PM

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games just die when they don't have enough ram

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I thought upgrading ram would make FPS higher

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Ram quantity is a "Dies if not enough", and "performs as usual with too much" thing

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@latent garnet rule of thumb, dont have less ram than the consoles

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:07 PM

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That is also true, consoles are usually minimum specs newer games go off of.

latent garnet Oct 8, 2020, 10:07 PM

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So the thing I should upgrade is graphics cards

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 10:07 PM

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GPU is the major factor in FPS, and CPU is fairly important too.

azure sage Oct 8, 2020, 11:33 PM

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MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus Gaming Motherboard (AMD AM4, DDR4, PCIe 4.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 2, HDMI/DP, ATX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CRF5XV/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fab_lg6FFbN7YN6DF

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This mobo good?

grave crest Oct 9, 2020, 12:02 AM

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@latent garnet I can confirm i literally upgraded to 64gb ram and I barely see a frame jump ( like maybe +10) in like forza horizon 4 and gta 5 with settings cranked

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Aslong as the ram you get has good timings and is speedy mhz is good

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@azure sage overpriced atm

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just grab like a B550 phantom gaming 4

devout mothBOT Oct 9, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Zac Dividend Investor#4740 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

azure sage Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@hollow thorn already bought it ;)

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 AM

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it works

vagrant edge Oct 9, 2020, 1:04 AM

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do you think the ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero will work with the Ryzen 9 5900x

latent garnet Oct 9, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I know but I’m trying to know what’s the problem in my pc

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If it is the cpu, gpu (if it has any), processor, ram or if it’s everything

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But I already bought the 2 gb ram sticks

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Wishing good luck

stone python Oct 9, 2020, 4:10 AM

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3900x worth it for $380?

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Says it’s brand new and sealed with the sticker on it, anyway someone can fake that or remove sticker without damaging it and put it back on?

dusky pagoda Oct 9, 2020, 4:59 AM

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the whole cpu is probaly fake

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Can somone suggest me a good mobo for the 5900x?

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Budget is around 200-300

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Have been looking at z490 and 10700k for all this time so am lost when it comes to AM4

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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look at b550 and x570 boards @naive pendant

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see what kind of of IO the models have

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and choose a model that has the features (IO-wise) that you want

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Ok so it's mostly about just features? None of them should necessarily be better or worse for the 5900x?

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Bc in that case I'll just watch some gamers nexus roundups
And what reason would I want x570 over b550? If any

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 10:43 AM

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main difference for consumers is extra pci-e (gen 4.0) lanes for EXTRA add-in cards

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keep in mind, generally, there is no need for anything beyond what b550 offers

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Thanks

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So the average enthusiast should just stick to b550

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 11:06 AM

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imo, yes

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 11:23 AM

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cGtgGw7roUY&t=571s#menu

Jay here recommends the x570 tho

YouTube

JayzTwoCents

AMD B550... worth the compromises over X570?

B550 is here and it's the first motherboard to launch at a time when AM4 is starting to become end of life with regards to the 5 year support promised back in 2016. So should you get a B550 or an X570? Let's talk about it.

Browse Micro Center’s work and learn from home produ...

▶ Play video

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When they're the same price..

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 11:27 AM

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for most people, both chipsets can be treated as identical, look for the features you need in a board.

neat estuary Oct 9, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Ahhhhh.. The Intel Peasants are here for AMD advice. 😄

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 PM

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lol

midnight pollen Oct 9, 2020, 12:47 PM

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INTEL BEST FOR GAMING

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Lol the amd fanboys losing their "muh best value" bc everything but the 5900x is overpriced

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Anyway it's looking like the x570 tomahawk for me so far

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Seems good all around

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@naive pendant you are missing the point

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but that is okay

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:27 PM

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About the motherboard?

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:28 PM

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about most of this

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and unless i misremember that video from mr-let-me-totally-not-make-drama-face AKA jayztwocents

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his focus is "weird" in that one

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Yeah he can wear on you a bit
Plus he's a bit dramatic at times

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:30 PM

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if by "at times" you mean all the time? yes

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Not the only sensationalist youtuber
It pays I guess

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:31 PM

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point being. IF you look at actual use case for a given mainboard

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:31 PM

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But I like the tomahawk bc buildzoid and hardware unboxed do. Nicely within my price range so hopefully will handle a 5900x nicely if I get one

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:31 PM

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what matters is NOT the vrm

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its NOT the chipset

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its the ports on the back and on the mainboard (for front panel connectors) that actually matter

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Yeah. The ports on the back are to my liking and I picked it over some of the older ones buildzoid recommended bc it actually has a usb type c

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And I like the looks as stupid as that sounds

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MSI has a nice black aesthetic

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:33 PM

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keep in mind, the "look" of a given part is 100% your choice/problem

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:34 PM

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Yup. I like minimalist stuff

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:36 PM

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as long as you are okay with paying about 80-ish usd for that choice of looks

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because you are not getting anything else worthwhile from that board

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Well what would you recommend

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:37 PM

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do you actually need the wifi?

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:38 PM

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I'd like it yes

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:38 PM

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fair

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and the usb c you mentioned, do you require that on the back IO or are you talking about the header ON the mainboard?

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:40 PM

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The header inside

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For my case :)

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:41 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RhrYcf/msi-mag-b550m-mortar-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-mag-b550m-mortar-wifi

MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

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something like that solves it too

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heck, even something like this solves it

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:45 PM

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:D

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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but, i personally dont like the IO on the backside on the VDH

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Same

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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hence the Mortar recommendation first

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I kinda prefer the io on the tomahawk to both tho

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:46 PM

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It's not horrible, it ain't great

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:47 PM

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also, non-1200 chip <- mr1111

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:47 PM

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yea sadly

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but usb

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:47 PM

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well, it would have been too good if it had that

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mortar is also 2.5g lan

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etc etc

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:47 PM

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it would've been

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mm

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Unfortunately my store doesn't have the wifi mortar in stock rn

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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mortar is alc1200 eh

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damn

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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mortar is a nice board

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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1200 what

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B550M-MORTAR-WIFI/Specification

MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboa...

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we are talking about the soundhip, its a internal/long-running debate @naive pendant

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I'm guessing pricing is high since I don't really see it most of the time

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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170-ish

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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yea 170$ rn

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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which imo is fair for what it brings

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cherry on top would have been a intel 2.5

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 PM

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that's more of a pg4+adapter territory tho

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would've

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Thanks for the input

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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IF you want/need the 2.5g LAN, the extra 35 imo is not a high price to pay @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:51 PM

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That's true, but most 'average consumers' don't afaik

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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hence why i started that sentence with "IF" :)

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Yea I understand where you're coming from.

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I also don't really like micro atx
I want a big boi board

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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side note, there's a pg4 wifi....?

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gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i look at the mortar as a updated b450m (the good variant)

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aye

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550 Phantom Gaming 4ac/index.asp#Specification

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:53 PM

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damn, every time I'm like pg4+adapter is good

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turns out there's an actual pg4 wifi board

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gonna check, prob has alc1200 too

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:53 PM

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it does

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/B550 Phantom Gaming 4ac(L5).png

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that back IO is the downside to that one thou

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I'm not bothered by the price of the tomahawk anyway
Reviews say good value

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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that looks bare

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rip

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I mean you got the essentials

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6xusb3

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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its such a shame they dont bring the 1200 ports out either

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 1:54 PM

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?

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 1:55 PM

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no optical and missing 2 minijacks

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https://asset.msi.com/resize/image/global/product/product_3_20200520154845_5ec4e0dd32471.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/1024.png

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that is from the Mortar

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@naive pendant re: atx: fair enough, again, as long as you are willing to pay and as long as you understand that you are paying for something that you wont get any benefit from

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and keep in mind, i am NOT talking about looks

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because as mentioned, that is 100% your choice/problem :)

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Aaaand don't forget the vrm

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By the way so all of these motherboards will run a 5900x just as well right?

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I'll keep the mortar in mind as a backup and thanks again for the help

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:04 PM

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vrm is overrated @naive pendant

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what buildzoid looks at is boards the satisfy HIS requirements for "good"

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Also HU

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:05 PM

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his use case is NOT remotely consumer

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HU flips through their "stances" as others change underwear

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Lol

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:06 PM

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i dont have anything against buildzoid

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he 100% knows what HE wants

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:07 PM

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What's the "m" on the b550

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:07 PM

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m= microatx

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and again, you are very welcome :)

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Ned you're gonna love to hear that I looked it up and the b550m mortar has very good vrm

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In case you were worried about that

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:29 PM

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i am never worried about that

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because its not something you need to worry about

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a manufacturer does not build a board to implode while it is used in normal use

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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It was a joke sorry

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I can sense your eyes rolling when I use the word so I did a funny

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 2:34 PM

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:)

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my eye rolling is normally reserved for when people start talking rumours

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@naive pendant do remember, Buildzoid is a guy focused solely on OC, his ratings would be 90% on OC potential

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Right

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 3:24 PM

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5% on actually working, and 5% on IO basically

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I'd like the option to OC tho

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 3:25 PM

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it really shouldn't be 90% of what you're looking for in a board

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imo, a 20% thing at most

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Well I like the io on it and the looks
And as far as it working uhhh I think it does

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 3:29 PM

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(Just saying buildzoid reviews doesn't match up with 90% of consumers)

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Ok

olive ether Oct 9, 2020, 3:41 PM

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intel or amd

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simple question

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i need a simple answer

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for gaming, streaming, and productivity btw

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

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It looks like amd will be the answer with the new cpus coming out in November but you'll have to wait for them to come out and see reviews to be sure

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 3:45 PM

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can someone tell me a motherboard that is good for a RGB build that wont kill my bank thx

warped scroll Oct 9, 2020, 3:51 PM

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@olive ether depends on budget

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@silver drift whats ur budget for a motherboard and for what CPU?

olive ether Oct 9, 2020, 3:53 PM

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2.5k budget whole setup

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ook eat time now

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@olive ether if you saw AMD 5th gen, AMD's likely gonna win

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Is it true the 2.5 gb ethernet on msi boards is bad?

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 4:04 PM

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idk

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considering you probably dont even need 100Mb, does it matter?

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@naive pendant ???

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It's just non-intel 2.5ge is not as good as Intel 2.5ge

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None of them are bad afaik

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Why is it not as good

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I've just seen people complaining about it.. would it matter if I don't have 2gb/s internet speed anywya

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Like that there's drops and stuff

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 4:05 PM

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your router probably isnt even gigabit

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Probably isnt

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My isp gave me it peepoSadSip

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@naive pendant its something you dont (at the current juncture) have to worry about :)

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Yes sir

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 4:09 PM

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again, you are more than welcome to ask about it :)

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and we can talk about it

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its just not something that really matters for you (as i understand your requirements at least) :)

naive pendant Oct 9, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Which is most people's requirements just gaming and stuff

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I like "fast" but that's ofc relative

gritty meadow Oct 9, 2020, 4:11 PM

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aye

warped scroll Oct 9, 2020, 4:30 PM

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10600K or 3700X

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3600 would work too

magic cedar Oct 9, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Better to get b550 with wifi 6 or x570 with wifi 5? X570 is cheaper

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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i have a i3 9100f and want a rog or asus board and around 250

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@silver drift do you already have the CPU?

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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yea

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:11 PM

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why rog or asus?

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:11 PM

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i have a aurus b360 gaming 3

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i want that corsair icue integration

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I strongly suggest against a 200$+ board

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HCVFCGK

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something more like that

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:13 PM

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i know but i dont want to have like 1 usb port

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:13 PM

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You gotta know, the difference between a 150$ and a 250$ motherboard is VERY VERY SMALL

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if they're both decent boards

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Z390 plus wifi is a pretty good board

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at 160$

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when you have the "1 usb port" motherboards is at the 60$ range

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:14 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B360-AORUS-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B07BQBWWY5/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=aorus+gaming+3+wifi&qid=1602263651&s=electronics&sr=1-2 i have this rn

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:14 PM

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at around 150$ or above, you can get some really nice motherboards.

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Also, I don't even know if Asus has icue integration

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i cant send corsair links?

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by the way i got the aours b350 for $100 new

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Okay

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you mean b350 or b360

normal raptor Oct 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Hi there, Thanks in advance!! anyone can recommend a good Motherboard for ryzen 9 3900x CPU

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AM4 socket

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@normal raptor in general, an Asus X570-plus wifi is good for a lot of things, but you can also step down for a bit cheaper motherboard depending on your circumstances.

charred venture Oct 9, 2020, 6:02 PM

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.

lean hatch Oct 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Question for MSI motherboard compatibility: Crucial DDR4 --> (Newegg) BL2K16G36C16U4B vs (MSI compatibility page) BL16G36C16U4B.M16FE1 , Are these the same SKUs ? Because the MSI website doesn't list any Crucial sticks as being compatible otherwise

jovial flare Oct 9, 2020, 7:55 PM

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probably should just get a memory pair that is says that it is compatible on the website

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but, im not quite sure, but im pretty sure if u got a memory that ur cpu supports, and a memory frequency ur mobo supports, u should be fine

neat estuary Oct 9, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I need a 200$ work pc i can slack off and play 1080p games with

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😄

green stirrup Oct 9, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Wel at 200 bucks that’s kinda difficult, u can get an optiplex with a 3rd gen i5 and 8gb ddr3 for around 50-70 depending and get a gtx 1650 1650s or 1050ti for around 140-175 and that’s the best I can say for 1080, you could also throw a rx 570 in for about 100 bucks but that would fit in a full size optiplex only and require a molex to pcie adapter

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@neat estuary

neat estuary Oct 9, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I was kinda thinking like a 3200g and no gpu. I dont plan on playing any triple A games. Only like World of Tanks Blitz etc

full flame Oct 9, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I think it'd be quite difficult to put together a full pc with a 3200g at $200 unless you find some killer deals

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Or already have some parts I suppose

warped scroll Oct 9, 2020, 8:19 PM

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just do optiplex + gpu

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guys

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my B450M steel legend is having a seizure

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https://imgur.com/a/Mus7cIi

Imgur

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idk how to fix it

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can i get some help

neat estuary Oct 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Download the RGB virus\

warped scroll Oct 9, 2020, 9:18 PM

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i already have polychrome sync

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:28 PM

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If my CPU supports a max of 3200mhz memory (the R5 5600X) and I have 3600MHZ of ram what will happen

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my mobo supports 3600mhz

warped scroll Oct 9, 2020, 9:33 PM

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5600X only supports 3200MHz?

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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yep

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 9:34 PM

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interesting

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i mean, its the same as Zen 2

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i wonder what the IF is gonna look like on this next gen

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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my question is though would it run at 3600mhz or 3200mhz

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 9:36 PM

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if you just toss it in and don't do anything? probably 2133.

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just depends on how memory training takes place, but thats on a per board basis

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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how did you get 2133 if its advertised at 3600mhz

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 9:37 PM

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because you have to overclock it to 3600

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well, "overclock"

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Gotcha so the fact that it isnt supported wont matter?

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or will it jsut say with the "overclock" a max of 3200

main pulsar Oct 9, 2020, 9:39 PM

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basically, its just letting you know that on the cpu side of things, they are guaranteeing memory support up to 3200

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so if you are overclocking memory, AMD is saying that every one of their cpus will handle that speed

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whether the board or the memory modules themselves handle it is a different story

fresh river Oct 9, 2020, 9:40 PM

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board for sure will, but tyyy

stone python Oct 9, 2020, 9:58 PM

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You guys think a open box 3900x for $340 is worth?

silver drift Oct 9, 2020, 10:22 PM

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who is @proud widget ?

proud pier Oct 9, 2020, 10:30 PM

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the admin

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dont ping him bro

mellow heart Oct 9, 2020, 10:55 PM

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@stone python yes

proud widget Oct 9, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yes ?

hollow thorn Oct 9, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Yes

vagrant edge Oct 10, 2020, 1:18 AM

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@stone python yes

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i would cop it in a instant but i have a microcenter near me

warped scroll Oct 10, 2020, 1:22 AM

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CT16G4DFD824A

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Is the model number for some ram

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And I can’t figure out if it’s ECC or not

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Can anyone help me

midnight pollen Oct 10, 2020, 1:31 AM

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it's not ecc

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@warped scroll

warped scroll Oct 10, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Sweet. Thanks

latent garnet Oct 10, 2020, 5:22 AM

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alright so I have come to the conclusion that with 16gb of ram you can run any game very smoothly without any good specs obviously you will need normal descent specs but will it look smooth and gorgeous that is another question

burnt salmon Oct 10, 2020, 6:43 AM

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sus

📎 unknown.png

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"no returns"

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Brainlet

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worth watching tho?

dusky pagoda Oct 10, 2020, 6:50 AM

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wait till last day

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see if price goes up

burnt salmon Oct 10, 2020, 7:16 AM

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ye

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imagine getting a functioning 10700k for like $20

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op

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Hey guys

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Does anyone know how can I see the maximum speed of the LAN port on my motherboard?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 1:56 PM

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@naive pendant which model is your mainboard?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 1:57 PM

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@naive pendant which model is your mainboard?
@gritty meadow Gigabyte H81S2 PV first gen

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I checked on gigabyte's website and it says 1000 Mbits

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 1:57 PM

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by first gen, you mean rev1 right?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 1:57 PM

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But I'm getting only 100

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by first gen, you mean rev1 right?
@gritty meadow yes

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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ok, and yes, indeed, that is a 1000mbit lan port

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howerver, for you to get 1000

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you both need a cable and a LAN that supports it

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I'm using CAT 6 from my router to my PC

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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what is the router capable of?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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what is the router capable of?
@gritty meadow 300

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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try and imagine the following

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your house has a internet connection going in

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this is how many mbit?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:00 PM

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50

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But when downloading games and stuff,

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It maxes out at 100 when I see it in task manager

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And also when transferring stuff locally, it also maxes out at 100

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:01 PM

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the following is not me being mad, i am just trying to avoid confusion

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but the numbers you are using, NEED a definition behind them

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is the 50 in mbit? or mbyte?

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same for the 100?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:03 PM

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My internet speed: 50 Mbit

The cable that provides internet: I don't know as it's not written on the cable

My router's capability: 300 Mbit

LAN that connects router to PC: CAT 6

LAN port on my PC: 1000 Mbit

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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okay

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on to the next part

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"It maxes out at 100 when I see it in task manager" <- which definition fits on this one?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Mbit

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Everything is in Mbit

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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correct

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"And also when transferring stuff locally, it also maxes out at 100" <- is this one taken from task manager or from file explorer?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Task manager

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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okay

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next part then

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When you say local transfers, do you mean from one machine to another?

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(both of which are connected to the same router?)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yes from my laptop or another PC to my main PC

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:07 PM

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that sounds a LOT like the physical ports on the router are only 100mbit

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do you have a model name for the Router?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Ok wait I'll check

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WR841N

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:09 PM

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that is a 100mbit router

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for the physical ports

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Oh man

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Ok thanks

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A lot

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Where did you see that though?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:10 PM

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you are very welcome, and sorry for all the questions. Just had to make certain that there wasnt any confusion.

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https://www.tp-link.com/au/service-provider/wireless-routers/tl-wr841n/#specifications <- here @naive pendant

TL-WR841N | 300Mbps Wireless N Router | TP-Link Australia

Wireless N speeds up to 300 Mbps are ideal for video streaming, online gaming, VoIP, web browsing, and multi-tasking.

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Okay thanks a lot

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:11 PM

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you are very welcome :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Just one more question

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:11 PM

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ask away :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Will connecting my PC to a gigabit switch which is connected to the router make any difference?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:14 PM

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the connection chain should be like this: Internet connection comes into the house -> router -> hub/switch -> all the machines you want

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this will raise the LOCAL machine to machine speed

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does that answer it?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Yes it does

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But there's still the problem of maxing out at 100 Mbit when downloading games

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And for that I'm looking to buy a gigabit router

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:16 PM

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yes, but something is "weird" there

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because IF you are paying for a 50mbit connection from the ISP

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you should NOT be getting 100+

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I get 50 Mbit on Speedtest

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But just now I was downloading from Epic Games

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And I could see that it was maxing out at 100 Mbit

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:17 PM

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you live in an apartment complex or something?

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Yes

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But there's not many people who have the same ISP as I do

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:18 PM

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hm

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consider the 100 you are getting to be "lucky" and go about your day

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is my recommendation

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because again, you should NOT be getting that

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Oh okk

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But like I should get more speed if I switch to a gigabit router, right?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:20 PM

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potentially yes

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the reason i answer like that is this: What you are seeing is NOT normal, so normal predictions are not really valid.

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Because one of my friends has a spare gigabit router lying around, so I'm thinking I should try it once

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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aye, no hurt in doing that :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Ok

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Thanks ✌🏻

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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you are very welcome

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Off topic, but do you do this for a living or is it a hobby?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:22 PM

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this is my "when i am not actually working, but i want to relax" hobby

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and yes, i work in the "field"

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks for taking time out of your schedule and helping me out ✌🏻

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:23 PM

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you are very welcome, and best of luck with the router rest :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:23 PM

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I'll be sure to get back to you if I do try it out

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:23 PM

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that would be appreciated :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Because you might be interested in this because of the 'weirdness' of my case... 😂

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:24 PM

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indeed :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Also one more thing you should know: I had a 20 Mbit connection upto 2 days ago.

I got 20 Mbit up and down on Speedtest,

But 70-80 Mbit on fast.com

Now my ISP changed my speed to 50 Mbit (for the same price, IDK why)

I get 50 Mbit up and down on Speedtest,

But 90-95 Mbit on fast.com

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:26 PM

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that smells like a local cache server for data

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local = isp level local

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Ok what does that mean?

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Or more importantly should I be worried?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:27 PM

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no no

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nothing to be worried about

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the side effect is the "more than expected" speed that you are seeing

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Oh ok lol

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In normal cases, does the Speedtest and fast.com speed match?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:28 PM

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i only ever use speedtest myself (if i go outside the LAN for tests)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Oh okk

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the side effect is the "more than expected" speed that you are seeing
@gritty meadow Have you ever seen something like this though?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:29 PM

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aye aye

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its used in just about all large scale WAN/LAN setups

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think of it like this

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a ISP pays for the amount of data it has to get from servers that they dont own

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so, IF they can cache/store the latest Fortnite patch on THEIR servers

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and server it from there to all their customers?

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MAJOR savings on data for them

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Wait so they pay for QUANTITY of data and not SPEED?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:32 PM

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aye, on their end

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not on your end

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Then how is giving unlimited QUANTITY of data profitable to them?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:32 PM

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because people overestimate how much data they actually use

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there are millions of people that dont remotely use the data they pay for

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Oh yeah I get it

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Because I use almost 1 TB per month (my phone alone uses almost 125 GB per month)

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:33 PM

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also, do note, where i live, here in europe, there has never been data caps

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well, not after broadband became a thing that is

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meaning, for the last 20+ years, there has not been data caps

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Here in India there's 2 prices per month for the same speed: one with a data cap and one without a data cap

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After your data runs out in the limited ones, it drops to something negligible like 1 or 2 Mbit

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Actually, data caps are useful for the people who don't use much

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I have a smart TV and also a YouTube channel, so there's a lot of data heavy stuff that I do...

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:36 PM

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aye aye, not saying data caps cannot be usefull

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BUT if the caps are paired with silly high price? (like most of the US has) ...... yeah

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:37 PM

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And btw, people still use non smart TVs here in India (actually, the majority uses non smart TVs)

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:37 PM

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aye

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Don't know about Europe, though...

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aye
@gritty meadow still waiting...

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:39 PM

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aye = yes/okay/nod-of-head

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and europe is split like what you describe, but with many many many more options

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:40 PM

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aye = yes/okay/nod-of-head
@gritty meadow Oh so like aye aye sir?

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:40 PM

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kinda :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks man

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It was nice talking to you

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:41 PM

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likewise, and do keep me posted please :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Yes sure

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I'm a bit tech savvy myself too, but this problem had me stumped...

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:44 PM

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its understandable, because it "seems" like it should just work

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yeah exactly

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I pulled my PC's LAN cable to look at which one it was

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And it turns out it was CAT 6

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I did a couple of fixes I found online, but none of them worked...

gritty meadow Oct 10, 2020, 2:45 PM

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aye, because you cannot fix missing hardware :)

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Haha lol that's true

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Nevermind I found it

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Is it better to have more sticks at a lower capacity, or fewer sticks at higher?

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1 stick of 32G Vs. 4 sticks of 8G

hollow thorn Oct 10, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@toxic skiff You'll want to have 2 sticks of the highest capacity possible basically

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2 sticks for dual channel

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and only using 2 slots out of (usually) 4 means upgradability down the line

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2x16 is usually a good spot

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Thanks

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G.SKILL Ripjaws V 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600MHz (F4-3600C19D-32GVRB)

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@hollow thorn so that would be preferable to 4 Sticks of 8?

hollow thorn Oct 10, 2020, 5:42 PM

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get cl16

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but that's preferable for upgradability sake.

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performance should be about the same between 4x8 and 2x16

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I dont see the cl16

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Nvmd

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Whats the difference?

hollow thorn Oct 10, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Smaller cas latency is faster effective latency

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Oh ok

hollow thorn Oct 10, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Side note, grab this kit if you can @toxic skiff
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164174

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Micron E die tend to be a good bit better than DJR

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It ain't no B die, but it's good

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:50 PM

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📎 20201010_135005.png

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Is this the same thing?

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/me is an Impatient Tuck and likes 2Day shipping

hollow thorn Oct 10, 2020, 5:53 PM

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no

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@toxic skiff that's 3200mhz cl16 lol

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it's 3600mhz cl16 on the kit I linked

toxic skiff Oct 10, 2020, 5:54 PM

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r/ICanReadRealGud

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Thanks haha

naive pendant Oct 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Is 16gb enough for a ryzen gaming build?

sand cobalt Oct 10, 2020, 8:07 PM

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yes

burnt salmon Oct 10, 2020, 9:56 PM

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16gb is pretty much standard, for ryzen you should be looking more at ram speed though, so 16gb 3200mhz cl16 minimum, 3600mhz ideally

mild jackal Oct 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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$150 isn't great for that

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A better bin of that kit was on sale for $100 earlier this year, the 3000 cl15 kit

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Both of those are rev.e

static perch Oct 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Anyone recommend a budget atx or e-atx board?

copper solar Oct 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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for which cpu

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Hello!

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My Ram is rated at 2400mhz and I'm getting this

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/756363229873307668/764664131294068776/unknown.png

tacit hemlock Oct 11, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Did you enable xmp?

late marlin Oct 11, 2020, 2:04 AM

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So i want to upgrade to a ryzen cpu, a motherboard, and ddr4 ram. Whats a good one? I want an 8 core ryzen

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I did turn on xmp

pure wolf Oct 11, 2020, 2:05 AM

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3700x for the $$$

hollow basin Oct 11, 2020, 2:24 AM

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my aorus mobo can't seem to get my ram to stay at the right frequency either

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it worked once, but then I checked today and it was wrong again

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 2:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Why is the default not 3200mhz as but that????,

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I changed the xmp to 3200 and tried switching it from auto to 3200mhz and still??!?!?!?

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 3:14 AM

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@knotty oar I don't use cam or speccy, but a thing you should know is that ddr4 ram (Double-Data-Rate), are advertised at their MT/s speed, not their true frequency.
For example, a 3600MT/s kit is actually running at 1800mhz, but is advertised as "3600mhz".

static perch Oct 11, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@copper solar ryzen

copper solar Oct 11, 2020, 3:41 AM

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@copper solar ryzen
@static perch which one

static perch Oct 11, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Ryzen 5 3600x

warped scroll Oct 11, 2020, 3:52 AM

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B550 PRO4 @static perch

static perch Oct 11, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Ok thanks

rugged sierra Oct 11, 2020, 11:37 AM

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i am trying to make a 1500 dollar core i5 96000k build and i plan to OC but i need a good budget mobo that can over clock alot

mellow heart Oct 11, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Why a 1500 build with only a 9600k?

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You can get much better tbh

tidal elm Oct 11, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Hey guys I'm a newbie and I'd like to mount my first pc. Does the following parts are compatible?
Cooler master mwe 550 80+
XPG z1 3200 udimm
Ryzen 3600x
Cooler master 300l mini tower case
Gigabyte rtx 2060 OC
XPG sx8200 pro
Asus prime b550M-A wi fi
I know is a budget pc but that's the most I can spend.

naive parcel Oct 11, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@tidal elm check pcpartpicker.com

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 2:28 PM

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@rugged sierra why do you want a CPU that's a generation behind for a new build?

rugged sierra Oct 11, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Cheaper

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And I have a 360 aio that I got from a friend

gritty meadow Oct 11, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@naive pendant you are asking for wishful thinking

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the 3070 is NOT released

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Bruh

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Cheaper doesn't mean better

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@rugged sierra 9600k is 6c6t, for perspective the new consoles have 8c16t. You don't want to have hardware far behind console tech :p

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At least the 10600k is 6c12t

gritty meadow Oct 11, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@naive pendant 3600x = 6core.
3700x = 8 core

worn night Oct 11, 2020, 3:36 PM

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@static perch you could also score an Asus TUF X570 Plus for a good price think 150-160 rn and it'd work with the new cpus

gritty meadow Oct 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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that depends on your workload @naive pendant

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 3:37 PM

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@naive pendant you need to do more research than just "does it do better" :p

naive pendant Oct 11, 2020, 3:50 PM

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If you care only about gaming then just look at some game benchmark videos showing both the processors

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It will be controlled for the same graphics card and other specs so you can decide if it's a big difference for yourself

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Or just wait a few weeks for the 5000 series ryzens

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:30 PM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/z390 phantom gaming 4s/index.asp how are these vrms

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Intel...

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Go AMD

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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no

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Pg 4s pretty bad iirc

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Am on mobile

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Intel Is overpriced and slower.

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Hard to check

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:31 PM

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But is it worth getting a new board

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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The only specifics I see is 3x2 cpu stages

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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digi 8 phase

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Yo, why are OEM'S thermal pastes complete garbage?

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Because cheap

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Think about it, 3$ a bucket, or 5$ a tube, which sounds better for OEMs?

knotty oar Oct 11, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I changed thermal paste on my CPU and GPU and lost 30c on the GPU, CPU 25C....

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/;

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:37 PM

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mr111 so do you think I shoulud get a new board for the 9900k

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or not?

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:37 PM

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If you have non-Z board

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Ye for da faster ram

deep vigil Oct 11, 2020, 6:37 PM

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but since I do have that phantom I should just stick with it

hollow thorn Oct 11, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Sure

twilit sable Oct 11, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@polar moth

worn night Oct 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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@hollow thorn since you're well versed in the AMD cpus can I ask you a build question about the connectors for the stock cooler on the 3700x?

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Oh fun on the Prism?

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I don't remember where the usb thing goes

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sorry

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fan cables goes to cpu_fan, that's self-explanatory

tacit hemlock Oct 12, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Pretty sure it just goes into the usb 2.0 port on your mobo

scarlet flicker Oct 12, 2020, 2:32 AM

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can I ask this channel for help on y

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my pc*

dusky pagoda Oct 12, 2020, 2:33 AM

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yep

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Or general cuz sometimes channels are ded

scarlet flicker Oct 12, 2020, 2:34 AM

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okay

worn night Oct 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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@hollow thorn yes that's exactly what I'm talking about the cpu_fan one is self explanatory I was just curious which slot would be for the rgb software customizing it

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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yea as justegg says it should be usb header on the motherboard

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once you have it, look at the manual

worn night Oct 12, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Yeah got the Mobo today just been coming thru the charts in the book for that

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Haven't looked at the instructions for the cpu before

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Specifically the cooler I mean

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Just a usb header and the cpu_fan connections would be sweet

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:00 PM

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what budget

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what needs

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there is no best end-all componet

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wifi or no

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what budget

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@naive pendant the determining factor is budget

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also, 5800x and 5600x will become things in just a month or so

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what about for both

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..?

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5600x gonna be 300$

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..

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more research time

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exactly

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please don't go for the 'r7 must be better than r5' mindset

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More research time

viral junco Oct 12, 2020, 3:06 PM

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what cpu and mobo u guys reccomend i have a 5k usd budget

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:06 PM

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To start off, 5600x and that generation presents us with a ~20% IPC gain, which would place it at the same level as the current Intel 10600k.

viral junco Oct 12, 2020, 3:06 PM

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should i get amd's new cpus

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@viral junco just go #building-and-recc-chat for a full build

viral junco Oct 12, 2020, 3:06 PM

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when the come out

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they*

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@viral junco just go #building-and-recc-chat for a full build
@hollow thorn k

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:08 PM

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20% ipc gain for single core performance

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this is the comparison given for 3900xt vs 5900x

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IPC and frequency go hand in hand

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I'd much rather get 20% higher ipc and just drop 200mhz

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remember, IPC stands for instructions per clock

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so 20% IPC gain means 20% oomph per clock

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so multiply the 5600x freq by 1.2 to get an estimate of how they would compare for single core perf.

tacit hemlock Oct 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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"oomph per clock" lol

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@tacit hemlock easiest way to say it lel

tacit hemlock Oct 12, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Chef_Kiss

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I'm gonna remember that lol

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 3:16 PM

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just saying ipc multiplied by clock is kinda messy and not completely accurate but that's the easiest way to talk about it

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320$ for both

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okay

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@naive pendant also are you looking for a full build or do you already have parts

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because it could be much easier to get the full budget and build the full list

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can I see the list?

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can I see the list?

warped scroll Oct 12, 2020, 3:34 PM

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do you guys know of any good looking white and black ATX B450s thast are at least under $95?

mellow heart Oct 12, 2020, 3:38 PM

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@warped scroll https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-steel-legend/p/N82E16813157868?item=N82E16813157868&source=googleshopping&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-mobile&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-mobile-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813157868&gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJsbHTcSMC0urhsQ3aWfHCcJAXPhcUFOkmkEDjvXNFZCli2TGadHiyhoCGo0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

warped scroll Oct 12, 2020, 3:38 PM

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ATX please

mellow heart Oct 12, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Ok

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https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B450-Promontory-CrossFireX-Motherboard/dp/B07MV7LR1B/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=white+b450+board&qid=1602517188&sr=8-4

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Sorry it’s as close as I can get

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Not under 95 but a bit over

warped scroll Oct 12, 2020, 3:48 PM

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mm

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ok

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thanks

neon sigil Oct 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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How's this motherboard?

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It's 130 with a coupon code

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 7:08 PM

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did you....actually take a picture with your phone of a website and upload it

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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nice

zinc spindle Oct 12, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Anyone know if the x570 aorus xtreme from newegg is the rev.1.1?

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 8:47 PM

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What's a good low profile ram? I think gskill won't fit in an h710 with a top mounted aio

grave crest Oct 12, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@naive pendant gskill ripjaws V non rgb

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I have a tight ass space and that fits for me

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Hmm ok
42mm I hope that fits with a 280mm aio on top

grave crest Oct 12, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Can't rlly think of anything slimmer

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Besides maybe Corsair vengeance

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@naive pendant actually yea vengeance is slimmer

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Yeah unfortunately my store doesn't have 3600mhz version of that and since I'm going amd

grave crest Oct 12, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@naive pendant I mean, amazon has a load of it

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I'm having all my stuff built by one place for me tho

grave crest Oct 12, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah then ripjaws will be ur next best bet

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Most other ram besides vengeance and ripjaws is tall asf

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I guess I see why everyone recommends ripjaws here

marsh iron Oct 12, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yes my vengance is fun sized

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🤣

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@naive pendant crucial ballistix

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Those are sold out for me :(
Wish I didn't have to get 3600

grave crest Oct 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Damn i forgot crucial oopsie

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Also u WANT 3600 no matter what cpu u have

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More speed is better

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Well I heard intel just doesn't need it so much

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I'll just hope that the ripjaws fit

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 9:39 PM

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ripjaws are 44mm iirc

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Nah it's 42

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 9:43 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Oh wait hmm

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Yeah website says 42

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i dont know how to decide if i should get 10400f coz is so cheap but suffer from 2666 or 3600 which i think out of the box 10400f games a bit better but have 3200 ram speed

magic cedar Oct 12, 2020, 9:58 PM

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10400f?? Why intel

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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its cheap

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and games a little better

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intel games better in general

magic cedar Oct 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Not anymore

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How is it cheap also

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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its 220

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and 3600 is 320

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 10:16 PM

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@naive pendant GN did testing with 10400f with 2666mhz ram vs 3300x/3600 with 3200mhz

neat estuary Oct 12, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Everyone ready for those Prime day deals???? I sure how computer components are included

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 10:45 PM

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@hollow thorn yeah i watched the vid and couple others but im still leaning towards intel

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i watch tyc do a quick benchmark of some games

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and it does the same if not a little better

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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GN does really good testing.

naive pendant Oct 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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and im not that keen on trying overclocking

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yeah

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but i dont really need to overclock

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gn vid was a little hard to understand

hollow thorn Oct 12, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Look at chart, compare 2666mhz cl15 with other CPU

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:p

stone python Oct 13, 2020, 2:52 AM

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3900x on a b350 board, what y’all think?

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:54 AM

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depends on the board

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@stone python a good b350 board should be able to do it

stone python Oct 13, 2020, 3:08 AM

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gigabyte ab350 gaming 3

idle wadi Oct 13, 2020, 5:42 AM

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this doesnt seem healthy

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update: pretty sure the mobo just doesnt have sensors there, because graphing it is literally a steady line

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split copper Oct 13, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Yes

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Censor the temps

burnt notch Oct 13, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Is the gigabyte x570 AORUS elite good?

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Do you guys think the 5900x will have decent thermals or be really hot like the 10900k? Like as a reference does the 3900x generally a hot cpu? Wondering if an AIO is really needed

grave crest Oct 13, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I think nowadays u should always go with at least an aio

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Tbh

split copper Oct 13, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Only 2009 AMD stock cooler

azure sage Oct 13, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Opinions on 3700x?

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Wait for 5600x

jade hamlet Oct 13, 2020, 1:09 PM

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My cpu, which is an intel i7-10510u laptop cpu, has a max boost of 4.9 ghz

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in light productivity/gaming will it ever hit that speed

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 1:10 PM

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@jade hamlet it's a laptop, keep that in mind

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heat has to be dissipated somehow

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with such high boost speeds

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it's about how cool the laptop is

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And also keep in mind max boost isn't reached very frequently at all, it's the highest it CAN boost to, but usually only in light loads on 1 core

split copper Oct 13, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Desktop: I like to keep cool, 70 degrees is good
Laptop: 105 take it or leave it

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@split copper yes it's running at <1ghz, yes max temp is 100c

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split copper Oct 13, 2020, 1:20 PM

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kekw

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I'll even clear the data

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and get back later

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:00 PM

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My whole PC started blinking blue

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I legitimately do not know what happened

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:01 PM

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your

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what

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@naive pendant like your rgb..?

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Rgb?

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my know of PCs is bad

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Knowledge *

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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like where's the blue coming from

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I'm confused asf

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Actually when I got a closer look MY GPU and my motherboard

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Were flashing. My motherboard blue and GPU white as its only color

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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is there anything written next to the light?

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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No I shut it off immediately

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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uhhhhhh

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Because I thought I hit something

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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nothing should start flashing from that

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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And my GPU is only flashing

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Nows probably the time to send it in because I had other issues with the motherboard

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Basically to explain I got up from my bed and then it started to happen I thought my bed must of hit it (as my bed slides) and was like ok no problem

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Left to grab a drink came back (I drank it downstairs) and then hopped on my bed a little hard but it didn't really do much to the PC

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I'm starting to think I murdered my Motherboard

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It's on now

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It's doing it's normal LED light before I turn it on

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It's doing it repeatedly, it'll be fine then goes back

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I have reason to believe it's my PSU and it also believe this guy who was talking to me dipped

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:40 PM

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:P

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@naive pendant so where is the LED

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and cross reference the manual

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:41 PM

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It's on the side where you plug in your USB and ethernet cord stuff

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I tried looking at the debug but I'm waiting for it to happen again

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Because there potentially could be a code that I missed

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Legitimately I believe it's the PSU because only the power and reset on the motherboard flashes

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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check the manual

naive pendant Oct 13, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I am

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Looking through the manual and it's not saying much, it's a pre used PSU

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A video on reddit shows the same thing that I'm having but I'm looking around for more information

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It worked perfectly fine before

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Besides the RAM but that's it

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Idk which one to get

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Gigabyte I had before it wasn’t that good...rog is okay I have it rn and msi I haven’t used before

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Why not try asrock

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Brb

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Idk about asrock

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Out of all those boards I’d go with the aorta master

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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considering you flutter around like a drunk bumblebee from choice to choice. That is not a surprise.

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Aorus*

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Okay

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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@bronze summit what about MSI x570 unify >:)

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Tomie said it’s good but bios is my question

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Will I still be able to customize

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Customize what

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I like MSI bios but that's me

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Msi got caught scalping so I wouldn’t trust them

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 3:49 PM

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So what

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#building-and-recc-chat

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It's not a big deal

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Scalping is the least of your concerns

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:50 PM

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True true it’s just a little bit of skepticism

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Says nothing about the product smh

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:51 PM

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I’m not saying the products bad

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It’s a good board

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@mellow heart IF i use your logic about MSI about you

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i would not trust you.

mellow heart Oct 13, 2020, 3:52 PM

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That’s fine man

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 3:53 PM

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and i would actively tell people that you are not to be trusted. Every time you say something.

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So, i would suggest that we DONT use that kind of logic

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:)

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 3:54 PM

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@bronze summit anyways what do you want from the bios..?

normal jewel Oct 13, 2020, 4:39 PM

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how do I know if an X570/B550 motherboard I'm planning on getting needs a bios update before I buy it for a zen 3?

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Right now, they all seem like they need one

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They're just releasing the new beta bios for Zen 3 now

normal jewel Oct 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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do I need a zen 2 CPU to flash the bios?

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Wait and see, a good amount of motherboards have bios flashback button now, which lets you update bios with a usb drive without a cpu

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I'd just wait for launch and see what people say about the chips

normal jewel Oct 13, 2020, 4:43 PM

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ok

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:51 PM

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im going with this

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hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Bruh

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I hear bad things about Asus bios

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And such expense

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:51 PM

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im using it rn and it works

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Docp is really annoying, can you confirm?

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:52 PM

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mr1111 who

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@hollow thorn remember who you are talking about details with.

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Right

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Docp.....idk what this is

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@gritty meadow but the "Asus bios bad" report came from a guy who broke a case

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I don't know how

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But they broke a case

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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users can break anything

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I know...

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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and it is NEVER their fault

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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It's quite sad

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 4:54 PM

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never mind the goat stuffed in the case together with the giraffe

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Yea

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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its still NOT their fault

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and you are mean for even mentioning that

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I think me finding my dm history with them will helpm

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He ended up with 3 m.2 drives

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After me telling him not to OC ram, OCing ram twice.

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:57 PM

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i wont over clock ram then just buy 3600

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 4:57 PM

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But also the only guy I know that has experience with Asus x570

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He ended up returning it for a msi gaming plus or whatever

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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flushedbig

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again mr1111 i like the design of the board

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like this board

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this board looks good

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no 10G or big stuff on it

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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You need 10g?

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I'm confused

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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the 3 pic up

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has it

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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. . .

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X570 Unify is the highest end board I'd ever go

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 5:07 PM

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but thats not what i wanna get

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i wanna get this board

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2 pics up

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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actual product links are a thing

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and NO, i am NOT talking about vendor links

bronze summit Oct 13, 2020, 5:08 PM

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what

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T3HYZ3Q?ref=emc_p_m_5_i&th=1

worn night Oct 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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wait why do you need all those additional features on your mobo?

fresh river Oct 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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will the 5600x need a bios update combined with a B550

safe geode Oct 13, 2020, 8:14 PM

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not sure if this type of ram is b die or not anyone know? not listed on b die finder and is unable to tell from part number

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hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:22 PM

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heyo

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@safe geode it's very unlikely to be b die

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is there a reason you're looking for b die?

safe geode Oct 13, 2020, 8:24 PM

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i wanna actually try ocing ram and i heard that it was a good die to oc ram with

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i also plan on getting a ryzen processor ig and heard that was what i should go with i think

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Well, I can link you a pretty good kit for OCing if you want?

safe geode Oct 13, 2020, 8:25 PM

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yeah ocing or ig 3600 c16 works as well

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thanks!

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Okay, to start off, this is if you REALLY want to invest into ram OC

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Dark pros are known to be one of the best binned b die (Excluding crazy kits)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075HQDYDN

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:28 PM

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If my Cpu_Fan socket isnt working anymore, does it mean my motherboard needs to be replaced or could it be my PSU?

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Your cpu_fan header on the motherboard..?

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yeah

safe geode Oct 13, 2020, 8:29 PM

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alright ill consider that and other ram sticks as well and see sales for black friday thanks for the help

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:29 PM

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@safe geode and this is going to be a better overall bet
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164173

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This is Micron E die, which is also pretty good for OCing, it ain't no B die, but it allows for headroom without spending a bunch of cash

safe geode Oct 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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alright ill probably go with the ballistix and just wait for a sale

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@hollow thorn Yes the cpu_fan header

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I assume you tested it with multiple different fans?

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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No but I tested the fan on a different header and the fan is working

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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that is a very unlikely thing to happen. but it does happen

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nothing to worry about as such

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just move the fan over and carry on

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:32 PM

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You mean replace the fan??

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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no, just move the connector

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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(aka. Avoid the CPU_Fan header)

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It's usually not worth RMAing the motherboard for a single fan header not working

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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also, do note. the CPU_fan header can be setup to ONLY tell the fan to move if the cpu is above X temp

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Yeah, Im using the cha_fan1 but the problem is now my PC is randomly rebooting when playing games... So im thinking , is the MB faulty or am I having PSU issues?

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 8:34 PM

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it could be a bunch of things

hard robin Oct 13, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Any advice on how to troubleshoot this? Im feeling a little helpless 😦

gritty meadow Oct 13, 2020, 8:39 PM

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if you dont have spare parts

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you cant really do much aside from taking a guess

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 8:40 PM

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windows events thingy

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and you can do stress testing on each part for the rebooting thing

normal jewel Oct 13, 2020, 10:53 PM

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is the
r9 5900x
asus x570 pro prime
G.Skill TridenZ 2x16GB 4000mhz
NZXT Kraken X73
seagate firecuda 520
a good build?

grave crest Oct 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@dark flame keep in mine u gotta redo a lot since motherboard change

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Thats why I'm stuck with my 9900k

dark flame Oct 13, 2020, 10:56 PM

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yeah nvm, it was just on a whim but nah it’s probably not worth it. I’ll wait til AMDs new cpu

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if I need it then

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Doesn’t the 9900k limit 2666mhz ram tho?

grave crest Oct 13, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Whot?

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R u saying does it limit to using that ram or limit THAT ram if u used it

hollow thorn Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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@normal jewel #building-and-recc-chat

normal jewel Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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ok

dark flame Oct 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

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The Intel website says the max supported ram speed for the I9 9900K is DDR4-2666, but I’m not really sure

grave crest Oct 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@dark flame oh nah im running my 9900k with 64gb of 3600mhz

dark flame Oct 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I’m running 3200mhz but was just confused by that Thonk

grave crest Oct 13, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Yea u can run up to 4200 on most z390 boards

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I checked b4 i got my ram

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@dark flame so u can go kinda crazy for now if wanted

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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hi

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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aight @dusky pagoda

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let's do this

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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yes

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

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so, z490e, wifi and bluetooth

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well, wifi usually means bluetooth as well

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:51 AM

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yea

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:51 AM

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alright lemme go digging

dusky pagoda Oct 14, 2020, 12:51 AM

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ok ill dig aswell

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and not msi

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pls

stray vortex Oct 14, 2020, 12:55 AM

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can do, though I am a bit curious, why not MSI?