#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 129

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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But anyways, how you check if the motherboard manufacturers have checked if your ram kit works is to check the "QVL" (quallifying vendors list), but the QVL also depends on the CPU, as newer CPUs tend to be able to handle faster ram and such.

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And I have to warn you now, there are no QVLs avaliable for the 5000 series CPUs, because well, they're not out yet :)

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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So that means?

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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You can't be sure if things will be compatible, but you can check if they're compatible with 3000 series

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Don’t buy motherboard and ram until they release the new cpu?

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Well, a good rule of thumb is don't buy anything until you can buy everything at the same time.

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The reason being if you bought things earlier, and found that the parts are dead, you run the risk of being outside the return window and not being able to return.

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@glad lodge This is the QVL for the X570-e For Ryzen 3000 CPUs for reference, so you know how they can look and work.
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING/AMD_Matisse_for_ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING_DRAM_QVL_20190912.pdf

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I see. I already have the rtx 3080 in me hopefully nothing is broken

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Ah, well, wish for the best at this point xD

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Thanks for your advice!

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You're welcome :)

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Come back again with any questions you got about PCs

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I will

lethal glacier Oct 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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What’s a good MB for 7 3700x 3080 no more than $150

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@lethal glacier B550m aorus pro should be good

burnt notch Oct 2, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Is 3700x or 3800x better

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 7:40 PM

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technically 3800, but not worth it unless its within $20 of the 3700

burnt notch Oct 2, 2020, 7:41 PM

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What about for over clocking

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 7:43 PM

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eh

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 7:51 PM

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3800 for over clocking

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@burnt notch it's all silicon lottery either way

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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anyone know a good stand to put a computer case on top of?

burnt notch Oct 2, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Oh ok

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Cause I might get a 3800x for 208

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But most likely not

dark flame Oct 2, 2020, 8:47 PM

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-anarchy-16gb-2pk-x-8gb-2-4-ghz-ddr4-dimm-desktop-memory-kit-blue/4842608.p?skuId=4842608

Best Buy

PNY Anarchy 16GB (2PK x 8GB) 2.4 GHz DDR4 DIMM Desktop Memory Kit B...

Shop PNY Anarchy 16GB (2PK x 8GB) 2.4 GHz DDR4 DIMM Desktop Memory Kit Blue at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

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why is this so expensive?

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compared to ram in the same price range, you can find 32gb 3200

magic cedar Oct 2, 2020, 8:47 PM

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overpriced stuff

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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but it says anarchy

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and look at that distressed heat spreader

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@fallen lynx what tpm do i need for https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gam-wif/p/N82E16813119311?Item=N82E16813119311

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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i don't know anything about TPMs

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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ok

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@magic cedar do you know?

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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maybe it has one built in?

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@naive pendant as i said yesterday, read up on what you actually need

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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hi naed

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ello

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:40 PM

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so i ecided to switch motherboard and im looking for what tpm i need

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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as i said yesterday, you dont "need" one

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if you "want" one, that is your choice.

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yeah i want one

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so do you know which one i need for this motherboard ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI)

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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as i said yesterday

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read up on it

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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when i said need i mean which is compatable

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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because i am not going to solve your security matrix for you.

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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asus sites doesnt haave many details like gigabyte

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so you dont know which one is needed

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 9:43 PM

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read :)

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research

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

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ok

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@gritty meadow also what is better to cover the sn750 with motherboard guards or take the heatsink edition and do t use motherboard guards

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 10:08 PM

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whichever you want really

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what you call "guards" is a heatsink

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 10:10 PM

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What performs better

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Also those guards are removable right

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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read the manual :)

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understand what you are buying :)

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if you want to mess with things like TPM? reading is going to be a big part of your daily diet :)

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Ok

dark flame Oct 3, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Haven’t watched this yet but Thonk

midnight pollen Oct 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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gamer meld just do a lot of rumors

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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^

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Kinda feels like it

dark flame Oct 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yeah, wasn’t a very informative video at all

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 1:08 AM

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He has always been kinda lame

jovial flare Oct 3, 2020, 2:32 AM

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thats sus

grand patrol Oct 3, 2020, 4:43 AM

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is this good deal ?

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DDR4 SO DIMM LAPTOP MEMORY

32GB

3200 MHZ

2 X 16 GB KIT for $60

red wadi Oct 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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gamer meld just do a lot of rumors
@midnight pollen They just trying to get as many views, most of the videos are repeating the same things that arent even confirmed

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 6:12 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZPgXL/gigabyte-z490-aorus-elite-ac-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-aorus-elite-ac

Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE AC ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

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does this have enough pcie stuff for a wifi card and a gpu

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https://www.amazon.com/Cudy-WE3000-3000Mbps-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B082NZYDDM

mellow heart Oct 3, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@dusky pagoda I can’t really tell but it looks like it has enough slots, although depending on how fat your GPU is you may not be able to use the other slot

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 1:08 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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both of the green lined slots can have a wifi card

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and note, the normal slot to place the GPU is, is the one below the top green marked slot

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so again, plenty of space

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I like that, @gritty meadow where would the Bluetooth addon normally go?

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Add on*

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 2:09 PM

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@worn night elaborate on your question?

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 2:11 PM

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@gritty meadow so say you buy a mobo with no bluetooth or wifi. You can purchase and install an add on for bluetooth as you can for wifi, correct? My question is where that installation would go on the motherboard or if it's a simple usb plug in

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In reference to bluetooth

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 2:12 PM

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you could go either way really

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it would imo, just be simpler to grab a board with both wifi and BT thou :)

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I feel that

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 2:12 PM

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and IF you wanted to go with a pci-e

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its the same slots (green ones) that you would normally use

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the top one is normally a good client for it

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Okay that's what I figured

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Nice

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 2:13 PM

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because space for antenna etc

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Right

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 3:05 PM

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But why would you not get the AC version if your going for wireless connectivity???

gritty meadow Oct 3, 2020, 3:56 PM

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@neat estuary it was a generic question

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Oh.

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Changed mobo :P

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmxLCL

System Builder

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Your seriously gonna pair that setup with a 1080p Monitor? @dusky pagoda

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:36 PM

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:yep:

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Your better off going with a 2080ti. The RTX 3000 series does not scale down well to 1080p with how it’s configured. You will get more fps with a older gpu

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That’s the case for the tests I’ve seen on 3080 and 3090. Idk yet if the 3070 or 3060 will differ. These cards are aimed at 1440p or 4K

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Debatable

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For example, 3080 FE at 1080p in RDR2 @neat estuary

📎 red-dead-2-rtx-3080_1080p.png

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still a good 10-20% gain in 1080p

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In games like siege it's gonna be like no difference at 1080p because it's so easy to run, but I mean, 400fps.

📎 rainbow-six-siege-rtx-3080_1080p.png

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but it doesn't get WORSE frame rates

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I won’t dismiss some games of course. That’s just the conclusions I drew from benchmarks

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Yes it's not as big a gain as 1440p and 4k

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???

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I'll keep posting 1080p benchmarks in order

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SOTTR very small gains, but still gains.

📎 str-rtx-3080-1080p.png

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Division 2 1080p good 20% difference

📎 division-2-rtx-3080_1080p.png

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minecraft rtx is not that relavent but there's a big difference at 1080p.

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and that's all the 1080p testing GN did.

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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The argument is what’s the point. Unless you insist on only buying retail. Like 1200$ for 2080ti compared to 700$ 3080

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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My argument is about this part

📎 unknown.png

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that's just false

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Ah well. That’s debunked.

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:48 PM

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welp i might get something like dat in the future

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For now im just tryna be competetive andy

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I agree that at 1080p, 500$ used 2080ti is most likely a better value proposition atm

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I also dont wanna spend 1.2k

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:49 PM

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They resell for around 600$.

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EVGA has transferable warranty

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

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nah cuz the chance of me getting scammazed is thru the roof

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Use Hardwareswap. Otherwise hey. 3080 is a great value. Just be aware you would get better value playing at 1440p.

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmxLCL is the list optimized

System Builder

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i dont wanna get like 120fps

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with a 3080 and all i spent

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also yea i might play 1440p in the future

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Just not as interested rn

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:51 PM

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3080 can do quite good at 1440p anyways

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and DLSS exists too

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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is the list good or not PauseChamp

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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such expensive mobo

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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That is a hardcore setup. I see what your trying to do now. 240fps is crazy fast

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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aio out of stock

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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YEP

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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gen 4 ssd is overkill

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that ram setup is... interesting ig

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Someone told me my cpu doesnt support pcie gen 4

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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it doesn't actually

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no intel CPUs do

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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It doesn’t. But you can get gen4 ready MoBo for the next gen cpu

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Sadge

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I guess thats okay

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but sn750 is pcie 3

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@neat estuary intel never officially said anything about gen 4 support soo

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and also

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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no?

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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z390 is not gonna get gen 4 lol

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z490 has a possibility

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if they go with gen 4 on 11th gen

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@dusky pagoda which list are you talking about???

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmxLCL

System Builder

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this one

neat estuary Oct 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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The 490 will. It’s basically accepted now that 11th gen is gen 4

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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you sent this one earlier...

📎 unknown.png

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Also idk if i should get fe or aftermarket

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 7:56 PM

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no guarantees on the CPUs themselves and especially not preexisting boards

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 7:56 PM

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cuz imma point a fan at the bottom of the gpu so it intakes more air and cools better

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Wait also i didnt

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Wasnt me

broken horizon Oct 3, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@dusky pagoda is that list rgb? i sound like such a child, but fr, is it?

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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What?

broken horizon Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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rgb? lights? leds?

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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yea what about it

broken horizon Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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does that list have rgb parts

cunning pumice Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Yeah

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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yep

broken horizon Oct 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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ight

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thanks

naive pendant Oct 3, 2020, 10:02 PM

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damn

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2k5 $ buid

hollow thorn Oct 3, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Oct 3, 2020, 10:03 PM

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you're rich

deep vigil Oct 3, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@dusky pagoda can you stop

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 10:26 PM

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dud what am i doing

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im making changes and checking if i did oopsie or not

deep vigil Oct 3, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Asking about 50+ time

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Progressively making you list worse

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Your list was fine the first time

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After naed and I changed it

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61 times in total

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3 and a half pages of just you posting you pc part picker list

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@dusky pagoda got it?

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i can ask when i want to

deep vigil Oct 3, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Ok just saying your a waste of time to anyone who wants to help

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And also that you make your list progressively

worn night Oct 3, 2020, 11:13 PM

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If anyone here looking for a good deal on a motherboard, Walmart finally dropped the price on an Asus TUF X570 Plus

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just to keep up with amazon i guess

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pretty decent board for the money

naive pendant Oct 3, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I think cntrl is memeing with the lists now lol
He will never get the computer

dusky pagoda Oct 3, 2020, 11:51 PM

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??

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why would i troll

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no reason

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just making sure cuz this is my first build

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dont want it to be bad

cunning pumice Oct 4, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yeah its good

dusky pagoda Oct 4, 2020, 12:36 AM

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ok

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am i overspending on anything or no

haughty delta Oct 4, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Is it possible for me to upgrade a laptop CPU

midnight pollen Oct 4, 2020, 2:34 AM

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In nearly all laptops, no not really

worn night Oct 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Laptops suck for upgrade and customization. The main upgrades I've heard that's easier on them is memory

charred venture Oct 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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or ssd

worn night Oct 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Yeah

high lynx Oct 4, 2020, 7:12 AM

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laptops are fairly integrated to be portable. as CPUs are only cross-compatible for a fairly short time, depending on your specifics upgrading the cpu would not be very beneficial or cost effective or possible in some cases... -- there are some laptops that use desktop CPUs and modular GPUs that are fairly easy though expensive to upgrade -- ultrabooks where weight and size is a primary concern often have the CPU soldered to the board -- ymmv, depends on the model.

supple drift Oct 4, 2020, 11:23 AM

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So, I tried to get windows 10 on a mac pro 2009 edition (didn't work) Now I cant do anything because the pc needs to be repaired. I can either try again or use startup settings. Nothing worked. Can I just replace the cpu and not have to deal with OSX or did apple do something to prevent this?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Question about memory xmp

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So my ram is 3600 speed, and in my bios I set it to 3600 but no matter what I do once booted in pc it only says 2133mhz

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Is that normal or am I doing something wrong with the profiles

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pepeplatypuscry

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I can videocall someone to walk me through it thats smart if needed

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@grave crest where do you see 2133mhz

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:16 PM

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@hollow thorn

📎 dfgfdgb.PNG

real jay Oct 4, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Is the asus tuf gaming x570 WiFi board good for my r7 3700x / rtx 3070?

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Hm

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@grave crest where did you set 3600mhz?

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Did you set xmp profile or manual

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:21 PM

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the xmp didnt work so i manually set it to 3600

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pretty much

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Sooo that's likely the issue

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Mess around with xmp again

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Booting into bios rn

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📎 20201004_102416.jpg

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So like

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Im not very good at this, is this right?

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Yes, profile 1 looks fine

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Wait what motherboard is this?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Asrock z390 phantom gaming 6

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It can run up to 4200mhz i checked

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cryingflexuh

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Just checking because Intel and crappy non-Z boards

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Anyways

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So does it not boot with xmp?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Trying to boot rn with it

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I get this BBshyblush

📎 20201004_102950.jpg

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idk what to do

indigo jungle Oct 4, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Could someone help me with picking a motherboard?

supple drift Oct 4, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I can try, what are you planning to do

indigo jungle Oct 4, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I am building a gaming pc

gritty meadow Oct 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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@grave crest what exact model is those ram sticks?

supple drift Oct 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Ill move to a dm so Korn can get their memory issue fixed

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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@gritty meadow

📎 20201004_103942.jpg

gritty meadow Oct 4, 2020, 2:41 PM

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try and pull two of the sticks out

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and then try the XMP profile again

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Oh dear that'll be tricky , its quite in there behind stuff

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Is there any way without removing

gritty meadow Oct 4, 2020, 2:42 PM

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not for testing this particular theory

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you got a more "lax" profile you can load?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I'll try to boot at like 3200

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Manually

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I'm back

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@grave crest @gritty meadow I have a guess of 3600mhz not working because dr 2dpc

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 2:53 PM

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how would one resolve that

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I'm looking around mobo website to see if they provide a number or not for max supported on 2dpc dr sticks

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To test if that is the case, take out 2 of the ram sticks

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Can't find a solid number, but they rate the only 3600c16 kit I saw for only 2/4 sticks on the qvl

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Fuckkk

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:03 PM

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You can likely run them at 3200c16

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Just might not get 3600c16 on all 4 sticks

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:04 PM

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AAAA i got it to boot at 3400 mhz

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:04 PM

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That's a start

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Ima push as far as I can I guess like literally 3550

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Or something

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:07 PM

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You can chill with 3400

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It ain't bad

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I pushed it to 3500mhz and it booted

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Thats the highest I can go i think

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Check timings

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Erm what about the timings

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Im not the smartest at this i dont wanna screw it up

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Eh, easiest way fire up CPUz

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:11 PM

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bet doing that rn

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📎 gbbcvnc.PNG

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:11 PM

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CPUz

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:11 PM

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yeye

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just showing it works

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Yes

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:12 PM

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📎 gbhf.PNG

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here

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Yea that's what I was kinda worried about

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It's running at cl25 lmao

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:12 PM

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aaa

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is that very bad

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Yes

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:13 PM

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how the hecc do i fix that

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Your kit itself is rated for cl16

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You'd have to manually set the primary timings

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:13 PM

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ohboy

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i mean i can

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Back into bios I go

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📎 20201004_111449.jpg

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Okie how do I do this

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Going down the list, try Cas latency 16, tRCWR &tRCRD/sometimes just tRC 18, tRP 18, tRAS 36.

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Oo interesting your bios slaps tRCWR and tRCRD and tRP all into one

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They usually are the same number anyways

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:16 PM

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So 16 - 18 - 36?

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Yes

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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For the first 3 bars

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Ok

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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We'll do command rate later, not a huge difference 2t and 1t

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Try booting with that first

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:17 PM

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📎 20201004_111732.jpg

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So boot like this?

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Ya

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Kk trying

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Crashed

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pepeplatypuscry

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Rip

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Try 16-19-39

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I was just wondering if you could do
3400mhz 16-18-18-18-36 when it's rated for
3600mhz 16-19-19-19-39

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Ok trying booting with 16 19 39 rn

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Crashed

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Welp

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Rip

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Ehm

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Fun

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Try 3200mhz, and then 16-18-38

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:24 PM

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That was 3600 tho

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So that might have been issue

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I'll try 3500 with the first timings u gave me

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Trying that rn 3500 with 16 - 18 - 36

devout mothBOT Oct 4, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Korn#1993 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:26 PM

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That crashed

distant stump Oct 4, 2020, 3:28 PM

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uh what's the official site for cpuz?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:29 PM

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YESSS

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look at this

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📎 bcvbvcbc.PNG

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is this proper now

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Nice

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Pretty good for now

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@distant stump this is CPUz
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time mea...

distant stump Oct 4, 2020, 3:30 PM

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what does less timings than rated mean

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:30 PM

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That tRFC looks p high but eh

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Lower timings = lower latency = faster ram :)

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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i mean i can manually lower tRFC aswell

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Yea I don't really know what you should put it as tbh

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Lemme see if I have a screenshot from my thingy

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Found mine

📎 unknown-14.png

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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so if i lower from 630 itll be faster yea?

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Yea, but those more minor timings don't give a decent perf boost, but it's there and nice to make it run just that bit faster

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:38 PM

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oo what about the command rate

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or is mine double because i have two sets

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or dual channel

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Im trying to boot with tRC at 56 rn

distant stump Oct 4, 2020, 3:47 PM

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any good resources (or YT channels) to learn more about RAM timing and the fundamentals of getting better performance out of them?

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@hollow thorn hhmm yea if i try to change tRC it just crashes so im just gonna leave it on auto facepalm

neat estuary Oct 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Its a long process man.. You only know the hard limits when it crashes

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Thats why you go up slowly

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Yea I did try to just drop from 629 to 56

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That was pretty dumb

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Oop

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Im gonna tweak more myself carefully

neat estuary Oct 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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you shouyls start with Dram calculator

hollow thorn Oct 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Aight

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Intel tho

neat estuary Oct 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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]\

naive pendant Oct 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@hollow thorn fast question 3200 memory or 3600 ?

gritty meadow Oct 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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for zen2 chips? 3600 cl16

grave crest Oct 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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3600 ofc

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Always just go as high as ur motherboard and such can handle XD

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Within ur budget

paper wolf Oct 5, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Hey, I have an ASUS B550M-A, and I am having the "USB device over current status detected will shut down in 15 sec" problem - I already removed all USB connections but still having the problem, anyone have some idea?

dusky pagoda Oct 5, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Should i get asus vision g or asus prime z490

violet bridge Oct 5, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Hello everyone, I have a question on how to overclock my RAM so I can get 3600 MHz as it says I should get out of the box. Using CPU-Z it shows that the DRAM frequency is only running at 1799.6 MHz, can I please get help getting my full 3600MHz? My Specs are as follows: MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max Mobo, R5 3600xt, 2x8Gb of Corsair Vengeance 3600MHz RAM, EVGA RTX 2060 KO.

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I dunno if it's just an intel thing, but I usually turn on XMP which is what usually boosts it to the advertised speed.

burnt finch Oct 5, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Would a ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck a 2060 super

naive pendant Oct 5, 2020, 6:02 AM

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No

cyan night Oct 5, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Zen 3 3 days

eternal turtle Oct 5, 2020, 10:04 AM

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https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P8H77V_LE/ is this mobo good for overclocking if it can at all?

ASUS USA

P8H77-V LE | Motherboards | ASUS USA

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please ping me

grave crest Oct 5, 2020, 11:15 AM

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@violet bridge scroll up ,someone just helped me oc my ram you gotta go into the bios and either enable the xmp profile (in easy menu) or manually do it in advanced mode by choose the speed and timings

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:29 AM

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@grave crest they already have it correctly, explanation in #overclocking

grave crest Oct 5, 2020, 11:50 AM

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OOPS

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So THATS why mine says 1750 im dumb asf

naive pendant Oct 5, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I'm getting a clicking sound 3 to 4 seconds in my pc after some time it starts clicking again while gaming and windows forces to restart.

devout mothBOT Oct 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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WolffeDemon#0664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

modern tundra Oct 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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what

naive pendant Oct 5, 2020, 4:17 PM

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just ordered a AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT 6-core, 12-thread cpu, massive upgrade from my ryzen 3 1200G what to expect?

main pulsar Oct 5, 2020, 4:39 PM

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nice

dusky pagoda Oct 5, 2020, 5:15 PM

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expect good

naive pendant Oct 5, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Help Some tickling sound coming out of my pc. I checked my HDD it's fine. Some ticking sound from motherboard while gaming.

willow wagon Oct 5, 2020, 6:05 PM

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If the mobo has it, should you put a heatsink on an m.2 ssd?

warped scroll Oct 5, 2020, 6:49 PM

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If the mobo has it, should you put a heatsink on an m.2 ssd?
usually not needed, but if your motherboard has it why not?

willow wagon Oct 5, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Okay. Just making sure it wouldn’t hurt if I did

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Thank you!

azure sage Oct 5, 2020, 7:32 PM

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B550 good board?

jovial flare Oct 5, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yes

steel citrus Oct 5, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Hello. I am trying to upgrade the processor on my desktop motherboard and I am not sure how to determine what is the best processor I can put on a ASUS M5A88-M motherboard. Anyone have insight on this?

gritty meadow Oct 5, 2020, 9:33 PM

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@steel citrus look up the model with google

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select the asus link you find

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Well, looking it up. You have an AMD AM3+ board

gritty meadow Oct 5, 2020, 9:33 PM

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and look at the support link (NOT the support link that is at the top of that page)

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 9:34 PM

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So you have to use an AM3+ compatible CPU

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I think one of the best cpu you can get for that board, would be fx-8350

steel citrus Oct 5, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I had googled it but I was not clear how I would know which processor was the best. Let me see if I can determine some final contenders.

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@pallid lynx thank you. I will check that one out.

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I used to run AM3+. FX-6300 was good for me. I then upgraded to FX-8350, which I think was the last CPU they released for that type before switching to AM4.

mellow heart Oct 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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The 8350 assent the last they released the 9000’s

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Wasn’t*

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I think a 9590

steel citrus Oct 5, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I saw the 9000's but their wattage is 220watts and I believe my motherboard only support 140watts.

mellow heart Oct 5, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Huh ok then I guess 8350 it is

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I would recommend upgrading platform cause yours is pretty old

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I said, "I think". It was the last CPU I had for it. After that, when it came time to upgrade again for me, I switched to Intel cause my friend was selling his mobo and it for $400.

steel citrus Oct 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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The FX-8350 works and looks to be the best for my old motherboard.

pallid lynx Oct 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Looks like you can get used-like new from newegg for $178.99

pliant orbit Oct 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Does anyone know any good mini itx lga 1151 boards with a usb c port?

wintry ingot Oct 5, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Question. So I originally was going to get the ASUS B550-F motherboard. I thought I did my research but apparently that mobo is meant more for WiFi. I hardwire so I looked into the -E version. My question is. Is 16gb of Ram 3200mhz (Corsair vengeance) enough to run with that mobo, 3070, and a 3700x cpu or should I go up to 32gb?

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:24 PM

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What do you mean "enough?"

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For what tasks?

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And can I reccomend 3600mhz cl16?

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And can I reccomend a cheaper motherboard like B550 pg4?

mild jackal Oct 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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3600maxCC

neat estuary Oct 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Hollll up..... (F is more for wifi so i went with E Version) @hollow thorn You are gonna have fun here

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Lel

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@neat estuary that's why I'm going for the "slam a bunch of questions into them so only the dedicated respond" tactic

neat estuary Oct 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Carry on .. This is entertaining

mild jackal Oct 5, 2020, 11:28 PM

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that's why I'm going for the "slam a bunch of questions into them so only the dedicated respond" tactic
... weird

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:28 PM

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What forks

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What do you have against it

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Do you have a problem with me

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Is there an issue with the amount of questions

mild jackal Oct 5, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Just say what you recommend, why ask to ask to recommend

neat estuary Oct 5, 2020, 11:29 PM

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pepe3090

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I mean from the sound of "F is more for wifi so I went with E version" they're consulting some weird stuff

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So yaknow

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See what they gotta say about it

dusky pagoda Oct 5, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Get a seperate wifi card

hollow thorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@dusky pagoda read up before you post plz

bronze summit Oct 6, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Bruh

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I should have gotten E

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Here’s my F

📎 image0.jpg

neat estuary Oct 6, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Why?

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Can you explain what the F will do for you better?

neat estuary Oct 6, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Or the E i mean

pallid lynx Oct 6, 2020, 1:48 AM

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From what I can tell, they wanted the E because it doesn't have wifi?

devout mothBOT Oct 6, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Takabreaka#9123 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

pallid lynx Oct 6, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Oh whoops. Maybe I typed RAM too many times there.

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Basically, I wouldn't ask is this enough RAM for a GPU, CPU, or MOBO.
I would ask if its enough for a certain task. Like a specific game, CAD homework, something like that.

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Yes.

pallid lynx Oct 6, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I mean, I've literally seen people stick a single stick of 4GB of ram in their pc. Works. Just not for a lot of games.

midnight pollen Oct 6, 2020, 2:11 AM

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4gb can be plenty for some uses, but for general users 8gb absolute minimum, 16gb highly recommended

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 2:18 AM

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16gb as modern "minimum" for gaming and common tasks

unreal solar Oct 6, 2020, 2:28 AM

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can a i3 9100f handle a gtx 1070

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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@unreal solar buying new?

unreal solar Oct 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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i already have a i3 just gonna upgrade my gpu for 960

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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uhh

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why not a newer GPU?

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unless you get a really good price on the 1070

unreal solar Oct 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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i found one for 160

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i could try and save a little longer rtx 2060 but seems overkill since ill be running at 144 fps

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 2:32 AM

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uh

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not really? But 160$ is good for now

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2060 super is about where I say the sweet spot for high/ultra 1080p 144hz is

unreal solar Oct 6, 2020, 2:33 AM

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ok

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ill wait for 3060 so prices drop

devout needle Oct 6, 2020, 4:44 AM

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quick question, I cannot tell the difference between these two ripjaws

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https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882?Item=N82E16820232882

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and

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https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Item=N82E16820232880

supple drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:04 AM

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So, I tried to get windows 10 on a mac pro 2009 edition (didn't work) Now I cant do anything because the pc needs to be repaired. I can either try again or use startup settings. Nothing worked. Can I just replace the cpu and not have to deal with OSX or did apple do something to prevent this?

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Will pci 4 be supported ever by z490
Read something about gigabyte boards, but what about other brands

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Sorry if it's a stupid question

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 11:23 AM

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until intel actually launches a product where they clearly say that it will support pci-e 4.0 on the desktop. We dont know @naive pendant

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 11:27 AM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/heres-pcie-40-actually-working-on-intel-rocket-lakes-platform
Well there's a chance

Tom's Hardware

Here's PCIe 4.0 Actually Working on Intel Rocket Lake-S Platform

Will Intel get cold feet again?

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 11:28 AM

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as i said, "until intel launches..."

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Do we know?

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 11:29 AM

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do i sound like we know?

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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@devout needle cas latency. One is cl16, one is cl18

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The lower the latency the better

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So grab the cl16 kit if possible

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I'm looking at the z490 unify and people saying that there is no igpu support. What's that mean? Is that something I need to worry about?

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:21 PM

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iGPU = integrated gpu support

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and no, that is generally not something you would need to worry about

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it only comes into effect IF you want to use the mainboard WITHOUT a discrete GPU

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I'm trying to BIOS update an ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 motherboard, and i got it to update, and then when i pressed any key to restart, its giving error code 32 and wont display a signal. Am I able to turn it off and turn it back on?

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:22 PM

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however, that is one expensive board, that ... unless you plan to use the features of it, its imo a bad idea to take

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:24 PM

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like since i just bios updated it im scared to turn it off

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

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logically, what else can you do @warped scroll ?

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

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das true

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alright turned it off lets hope i didnt brick it

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hey it works

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sweet

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

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why are you updating the bios on it?

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

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to get it to support my 3570K

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ah

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:27 PM

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yee

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old motherboard i was trying to use died, so i got a new one

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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kk

long geyser Oct 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I mean if it bricks, you still have those manual flasher thingies

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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well not new, pre owned, but you get the point

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manual flasher thingies?

long geyser Oct 6, 2020, 3:28 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Organizer-Socket-Adpter-Programmer-CH341A/dp/B07R5LPTYM

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BIOS chip programmer

warped scroll Oct 6, 2020, 3:29 PM

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huh never heard of those

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bios update complete lets try the 3570K :D

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to do be working now doe

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Alright thanks ned
Seems to be for people who want intel quick sync which is for video encoding whatever that is

grave crest Oct 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Video encoding is like , I think exporting videos from editing software at high bitrate and quality

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Basicly?

gritty meadow Oct 6, 2020, 3:57 PM

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kinda-ish yes/no

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Video encoding in the quicksync context is having a dedicated piece of hardware that is REALLY efficient at encoding video (at different quality/bitrate settings)

faint ferry Oct 6, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Any reason if I should go with 10700k over 9900k? There practically the same price at 410 with no sales on newegg. The only reason I would go for this is the more motherboard choices for a lower price rather than 1151 boards at 300-400 Asus Rog. As well for upgrading to 10900k when I have the money since 9900k is the only upgrade I can max out.

main pulsar Oct 6, 2020, 4:58 PM

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z490 will support next gen intel, making it something that is worth investing in over a z390 board. other than that, the 9900k and 10700k are basically the same, but the 10700k is easier to cool

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however, consider the odds that you actually upgrade from a 10700k

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before 11th gen intel desktop processors become old news, that is

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its a cpu that should easily last you 3-4 years with no problem

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by then z490 will be out of date, leaving you with 2 options. either buy a used 11th gen cpu off ebay, or upgrade your motherboard

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and even then, i highly doubt going from 10th to 11th gen intel will be an upgrade worth paying for

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in conclusion, get the 3700x because its 100 dollars cheaper and you probably wont notice the difference in gaming between the other 2 options KEKW

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Help

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I'm getting clicking sound constantly In my mother board while gaming. I checked my HDD it's running fine. Please help

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📎 noise.aac

jovial flare Oct 6, 2020, 5:39 PM

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fans?

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gpu fans?

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cpu fan?

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anything in the way of the fans?

grave crest Oct 6, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@faint ferry go 10700k and a z490 board for sure, I have a 9900k and I've already maxed out my board because z390 is limited smh

velvet geyser Oct 6, 2020, 7:08 PM

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hey guys im thinking of getting a ryzen 5 3600 and was wondering if anybody got any recommends for motherboard to go with it since i dont know much about how to update bios?(i heard some need this) thanks for any help!
(sorry if this is in wrong chat)

naive pendant Oct 6, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@jovial flare nope everything is fine the sound is coming from middle of the board

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I checked fans pump PSU

jovial flare Oct 6, 2020, 7:16 PM

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damn

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hey guys im thinking of getting a ryzen 5 3600 and was wondering if anybody got any recommends for motherboard to go with it since i dont know much about how to update bios?(i heard some need this) thanks for any help!
(sorry if this is in wrong chat)
@velvet geyser I got the same processor a while ago, and the msi b450 gaming plus max went rlly well, but i reccomend the b550 over the b450

neat estuary Oct 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Any b550 will work for you without bios update. But I still recommend bios is update on assembly as those updates will often fix small bugs and improve memory support

velvet geyser Oct 6, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@jovial flare @neat estuary thanks for this guys i will look into some of these

jovial flare Oct 6, 2020, 7:40 PM

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yep

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np

toxic grove Oct 6, 2020, 7:52 PM

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B550-e and a are the same board correct? only color change to white on the a model? Asus Strix

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@velvet geyser B550 pro-vdh wifi is my default suggestion if need wifi, B550 Phantom gaming 4 if not. 110$ and 115$ usually.

velvet geyser Oct 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@hollow thorn i have a network card im thinking of getting a m.2 but i alread have 3 sata drives?

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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That's fine, usually motherboards allow for 2 m.2 drives and 4 SATA drives at the same time

velvet geyser Oct 6, 2020, 8:12 PM

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thanks i heard that some disable a sata slot or something

hollow thorn Oct 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yes

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They do

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@velvet geyser usually you get 6 sata slots, some motherboard disable 1 and 2 when you have a m.2 drive.

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That's what I say 2 m.2 drive and 4 SATA drives

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Some mobos can do 2 m.2 and 6 SATA

velvet geyser Oct 6, 2020, 8:14 PM

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i see thanks sir/madam

neat estuary Oct 6, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@toxic grove B550-f and B550-a are the same boards. It’s very hard to recommend the E variant. I would encourage anyone to buy the b550 Aorus Master instead at the 250-270$ price range

loud spindle Oct 6, 2020, 9:35 PM

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is gigabyte B550 vision d worth it?

neat estuary Oct 6, 2020, 9:36 PM

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It’s a pretty nice board. But hardly a advantage over the 170$ options unless you can utilize the Thunderbolt that’s built in.

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If you want a white board the Asus B550-a is a pretty solid high end option.

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Check this out on @vague haven: ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 PG VELOCITA AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-b550-pg-velocita/p/N82E16813157934?Item=N82E16813157934&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-157-934-_-10062020

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If you don’t need WiFi. This one gives me a hardon.

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It does have fewer USB ports but makes up with post code and front type c header.

warped jackal Oct 7, 2020, 1:16 AM

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question for you guys, 3900x vs 3950x. worth the extra guap for 3950x or do you think the 3900x is good as is?

ashen thorn Oct 7, 2020, 1:23 AM

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You should wait for the new AMD chipset to go out Thursday @warped jackal

warped jackal Oct 7, 2020, 1:24 AM

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mobo chipset or the new 4000 series?

ashen thorn Oct 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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5000 series @warped jackal

warped jackal Oct 7, 2020, 1:30 AM

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nice, not that much longer i'll wait lol

heady root Oct 7, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Only being announced then

warped jackal Oct 7, 2020, 1:46 AM

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oh wut.

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Do all motherboards support 7.1/5.1 surround audio? Or must I have an external sound card for that

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I couldn't really find a definite answer on google

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 11:24 AM

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depends on the soundchip and software stack for a given mainboard @naive pendant

warped scroll Oct 7, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Do you guys think a B450M Steel Legend Could handle a stock Ryzen 2700X?

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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why not

tidal elm Oct 7, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I bought yesterday a motherboard with an x1 slot and the ssd is x4. I want to know if I can use it in this mobo

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 4:50 PM

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uhhh

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@tidal elm what exact SSD did you grab, and what motherboard?

tidal elm Oct 7, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Gigabyte b550 gaming x. Wd sn750

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 4:55 PM

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First, to start off, the SSD's form factor is M.2, which uses PCIe 4x lanes, not slots

tidal elm Oct 7, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I'm a newbie on pc gaming

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 4:56 PM

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(That's why I'm explaining :D)

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Here on the motherboard manufacturer's website @tidal elm

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and you can tell on the SSD :

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tidal elm Oct 7, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Thanks a lot!

magic forge Oct 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I got a little question, for a little project I need to write up.

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What is the intel equivalent of the current AMD TRX40 chipset?

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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You're welcome! Here is what an actual SSD using PCIe x4 slot looks like @tidal elm

📎 unknown.png

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@magic forge x299 is Intel's equivelent chipset to TRX40, and supports CPUs like the 10980xe

magic forge Oct 7, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Ah, alright. Just making sure.

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Thanks!

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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:)

ashen thorn Oct 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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That is one nice looking SSD. Where did you find it @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Random one on Amazon

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Some aorus thing

ashen thorn Oct 7, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Okay thanks

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@naive pendant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MrQz7

System Builder

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Tysm

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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better cheaper ssd, cheaper good enough mobo, cheaper better ram, better cheaper psu

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I actually did some research and I originally used this ram but it’s too tall for the cpu cooler

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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it shouldnt be, its not very tall

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I mean I searched that yesterday

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I asked here

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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📎 51efx4EScAL.jpg

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see the notch

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in the cooler

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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And I was told to either change cooler or ram

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Yes?

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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its designed to not be an issue

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well, who tf told you that

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Wait

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I’m gonna link a message

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I did

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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he told himself that by misunderstanding what he got told @main pulsar

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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:p

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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you see, you can move the fans around the cooler

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@naive pendant you didn't want to move the fan

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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and turn them around

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oh

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Remember?

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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its not that hard

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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see what i said @main pulsar, and remember, you chose this line :)

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so, dont blame me for the headache later

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yeah, im familiar with throwing myself down these rabbit holes

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:17 PM

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#general-chat message

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Yeah I dint want to move it

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Forgot to mention that

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:18 PM

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also, look at the cooler picture up above

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see the right hand side?

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you know, the one without a fan on it?

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Yes

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@main pulsar so where shall I spend that extra budget left

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:19 PM

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save it

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Ok

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Also this psu is low voltage

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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no need to spend what you dont have to

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and i think you mean wattage

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Ok

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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and its not its fine

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Yes

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Ok

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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eh, question:

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why the cl18?

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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So should I get the other ram if I don’t want to move the fan

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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there are no kits of 4x32gb 3600 CL16

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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2*32

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Oh you upgraded to 360p

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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and 3200 CL16 yields the same latency with less bandwidth

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4x32, naed

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Very rare, and also mobos won't like 4x32 3600c16 Naed.

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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2 * 32 @ 3600cl16 <- times 2

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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thats a risk

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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no

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its not

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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docp might just say no

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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it most likely will anyway

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@main pulsar so I’ll have to move the fan with that ram?

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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128 gig is limit on consumer boards

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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yes, just a bit

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its super easy

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the instruction manual will even tell you how

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Ok

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So considering you don’t change much and you’re expirienced with rml and ml that’s means it was a god build

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:24 PM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550 Phantom Gaming 4ac/index.asp#Specification

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i am just posting this here, to remind you that even thinking about that ram speed at that capacity is going to be "interesting"

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Why

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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i had not noticed the board you had selected

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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The amd one

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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oh, thats the board i selected. is there a reason it might not work?

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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look at the link

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Or the one @main pulsar replacement with

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It has error

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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scroll down and see the ram section

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none of what i am saying is for you @naive pendant

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its all for Sassy

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z7XdnL

System Builder

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yeah, i see the dimm speed to config chart

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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why do u need such a good monitor for rml

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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It’s not that good

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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2160?

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Thought it was 4K

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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it is 4k

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550 Phantom Gaming 4ac/index.asp#MemoryMS <- have a look here @main pulsar

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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why do u need 4k

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@primal wren personal preference.

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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eh ok

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I choose a 4K one to see code clearly with low refresh rates cause it’s not mainly for gaming

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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also, thats a trivial amount for a monitor

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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um

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see code clearly?

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Yes

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I’m high def

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Idk

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I just thought since my gpu supports it I might aswell get it

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@main pulsar notice how very very few 32gig moduels are even at 3200

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(if you sort by size that is)

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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oh yeah, i noticed. sorry, i was supposed to have an online class start 15 minutes ago, but the zoom meeting wont launch

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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no worries mate :)

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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so im not really paying attention here very well lmao

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but yes, i see what youre saying

gritty meadow Oct 7, 2020, 6:31 PM

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that was the whole point Sassy :)

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Ok

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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huh, outlook is down

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Ok

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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i cant check my school email

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RgfZxc

System Builder

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so basically just slower ram

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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outlook is down rn yea

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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idk whats going on with zoom, but i guess i dont have class now

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@main pulsar should I get the shorter one so it’s easier to build

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Also does this mobo have 2 nvme slots

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:44 PM

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i think its only got one

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but tbh i dont think you need more than a tb of ssd

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Should I get this one maybe https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi

Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:46 PM

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is there something that this one does that the other does not?

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Idk

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It just looks more clean

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Amd is 570

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:48 PM

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your case is solid

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Ok

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:48 PM

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you wont see it

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:48 PM

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So what I care about more is this a generally good build for my needs

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oh, the case you picked has a glass side panel

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Haven’t decided on minor things yet but generally

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Yes

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:49 PM

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i thought you picked the non glass one

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Ok

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It’s the dark glass

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I’m going for black and white build

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Like generally white

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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nah, dont worry about aesthetic

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I mean black

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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just get a cheap pc that does what you need it to do

primal wren Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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hard enough to get u a good build without finding a color scheme for it

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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the part list i send a few messages i sent is fine

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Ok

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Ok

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So this is a good build for. Y needs right

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Also will there be new motherboards with zen 3

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:52 PM

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this board will support zen 3 cpus

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Ok

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But will new one made for zen 3 be released

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 6:59 PM

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dont know

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but tomorrow and the 11th are the days amd is announcing new products

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so you can figure it out then

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Ok

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So do you recommend a platinum psu

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@main pulsar also found a seasonic one

main pulsar Oct 7, 2020, 7:29 PM

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stop editing my list, if you were in a position to do so you wouldnt have needed my help in the first place

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dont you think?

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i recommended that platnum psu because its an A teir, and has better power efficiency, something that will save you some extra cash in the long run

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especially considering this machine will be running continuously for probably days at a time

naive pendant Oct 7, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Ok

mild jackal Oct 7, 2020, 7:44 PM

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The mk120 mouse is kinda trash imo

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Love the keyboards though

mellow summit Oct 7, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Hey guys! I currently have a ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming Mobo, but just realized that it ONLY supports 3000 series and higher. I currently have a 2600x, and plan on upgrading to the 5000 series when it comes out. What x570 Mobo's do you guys recommend? Price around $100-$250 max.

fallen lynx Oct 7, 2020, 7:48 PM

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B550 will support 5000 series

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when updated bios gets released

mellow summit Oct 7, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Yes, but I need a mobo that'll support my Ryzen 5 2600x for now, UNTIL the new 5000 series comes out

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I'd say an Asus X570-plus

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the non-wifi version if you don't need wifi

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usually around 160$

fallen lynx Oct 7, 2020, 7:49 PM

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B550 isn't backwards compatible with a 2600 but x570 is?

mild jackal Oct 7, 2020, 7:52 PM

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yes

fallen lynx Oct 7, 2020, 7:53 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/weebay-thewire-damn-gif-7324034

Tenor

mellow summit Oct 7, 2020, 8:06 PM

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So this one is pretty comparable to the ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming?

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119197

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@mellow summit B550 pg4 doesn't have wifi, so this is the non-wifi version
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119198

finite elm Oct 7, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I got a b550m vdh wifi . Don't even know if it's a good board or not. Had what I needed and fit in the case I am using lol

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 9:37 PM

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@finite elm they needed a X570 board because they had a 2nd gen chip.

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B550 doesn't support 2nd gen.

finite elm Oct 7, 2020, 9:37 PM

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That makes sense.

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For the X570 i cheaped out and got a Asrock Phantom Gaming 4 that was on sale for like 115$

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I kinda went mis-high end board because why not, splurge is fun when. People give me a budget like"100-250$"

heady root Oct 7, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i really wanted to get a vision d but

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like

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$260

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Lol

neat estuary Oct 7, 2020, 9:50 PM

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B550-A is a good white option

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:01 PM

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You have to agree vision d is pretty smexy tho

willow wagon Oct 7, 2020, 10:01 PM

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So, my 3700x is running at 66-68c max with the stock cooler. From what Ive seen that’s perfectly fine right?

neat estuary Oct 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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well ya it is. If you absolutely want that look then i guess its the only one for you

fresh river Oct 7, 2020, 10:08 PM

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If I could get any processor regardless of price, which would the best one be

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would it be a threadripper or intel, for every type of usage

fallen lynx Oct 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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threadripper probably

fresh river Oct 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Alright ty

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@fresh river there is no "perfect" CPU for everything :)

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There's always another task something else is better at

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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isnt i7 better for gaming than i9

heady root Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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actually my fx 6300 is great at everything

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Wat

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@spark otter what about specifying models

heady root Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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especially sucking

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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im talking intel not ryzen

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@spark otter what about specifying models

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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liek i7 9th gen vs i9 9th gen

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Again.

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@spark otter what about specifying models

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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idk

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what you mean by that

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OHHH

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i dont know specific models

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but the best for both of them ig

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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...

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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lol

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i know im dumb

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:31 PM

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And that's why I hate God damn Intel marketing

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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its meh

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it could be better

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Makes "i3 i5 i7 i9" sound like such important specs

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As if we can just tell what cpu it is by that name

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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they kinda are.....

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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They aren't

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Are you asking me about a 9700kf vs a 9900?

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:32 PM

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i only know intel cpu's i dont do ryzen

worn night Oct 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Those are both intel he listed

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Or are you asking me about a 9700k vs a 9900k?

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Or a 9700kf against a 9900ks?

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Those are 3 vastly different comparisons

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And oh guess what

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That's all i7 9th gen vs i9 9th gen

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:33 PM

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i dOnT kNoW Im nEw tO pC tALk LikE this

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I just hate Intel for making "i9" sound like such an important spec

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It's not

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Point is, it varies on a model to model basis

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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depends what its compared too

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Specific situation matters

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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like an i9 8th gen vs and i3 10th gen the i9 will be better

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bc it has more threads

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and cores i think

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its like a 4 core difference

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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More cores doesn't mean everything, single core perf matters too

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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true

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again depends on what your measuring

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Anyways let's go back to the original question to get some context and all so I can give actual advice and not just trying to slam Intel

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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both my parents work at intel so i like intel better

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tho ive never tried amd

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Tell them to make better naming schemes

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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lol

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anyway got to go

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bye

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Like gawd damn what's a 1185g2 :p

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Aight

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Come back again so I can actually give advice with part selection xD
@spark otter

spark otter Oct 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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kk ill come in idk like 30 min

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idk tho

hollow thorn Oct 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Any time

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Whenever you're back

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Idc if it's in a month, I'll still answer it

devout matrix Oct 7, 2020, 11:11 PM

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hi

faint ferry Oct 8, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Does the 9900k always come overclocked at 4.7ghz?

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 12:29 AM

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it's not overclocking if it comes with the speed :P

spark otter Oct 8, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@hollow thorn

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i did some research and turns out the i matters

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bc it determines what you are using for

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for exapmle a i9 is for work so it has less cores than an i7

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it has more threads and cores

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true the gen is inportant but this is also quite important

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but the gen is definitly a higher priority

main pulsar Oct 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

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or you could just get the number of cores you need and ignore the meaningless nomenclature

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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@spark otter ahem, I suggest you look more about context than just that :P

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i3 i5 i7 i9 are supposed to tell you about core count

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until intel threw that out of the window and starting having random core counts for each thing

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there are 4 core i7s, and there are 8 core i5s

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it's all confusing

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at the end of the day

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if you just through the "i3 i5 i7 i9" out the window

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and hell, even the "x generation" out the window

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and just tell me "9900k", I have all the information I need

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I can immediately tell you the difference between a "9700k" and a "9900k", but again, if you ask me about "9th gen i7 and 9th gen i9", I'd be confused, and that's using more words to talk about the same thing

spark otter Oct 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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ig

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:32 AM

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And also

worn night Oct 8, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Lol exactly they be putting the i7 8550 in alot of laptops runs about 4 cores then they randomly be going dumb hard on some i5 10600ks that have a bunch of cores

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Some Intel CPUs have SMT, some don't

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ikr it's weird asf

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There are even 2 core i5s

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anywhere from 4-8 core for i7 non-hedt

fresh river Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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will a R5 3600 and RTX 3070 be good or will the bottleneck be too bad

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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and 4-10 core including hedt

worn night Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@fresh river pretty sure that'd be fine

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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It should be fine

worn night Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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But the 3600x is good too

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And also not too expensive

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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@fresh river wait for benchmarks

fresh river Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I know i just said 3600 just in case

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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and wait for 4th gen launch

fresh river Oct 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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its all good dont bother

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and ofc loll

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Look, bottlenecking is a term that's just misused

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it's no "yes no this bottlenecks"

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so just get more data before just making a decision

worn night Oct 8, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I mean if you found a really good deal maybe do get the 3600

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But if it's retail

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Newegg been having some deals on the xt

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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the new nzxt motherboards looks nice imo

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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hope they aren't crap with software again

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:12 AM

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What kind of price changes on the zen 2's do you guys think we will see? Hoping to pick up a 3900x soon.

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I am assuming the zen 3's will sell out similarly to the 30 series cards

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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None for buying new.

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I mean I don't think it will change the price much

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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New pricing just doesn't have a reason to change

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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yea

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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used market might dip

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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or might go up

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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@dawn bough same dips you saw with RTX 20 series :D
Aka. no dip.

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Haha

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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because people bought 20 series cards after the 3080 sold out lmao

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Well there was a dip for like a week before the release. 😛

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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bought used cards*

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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not really :P

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I was watching and none of the prices were out of the ordinary

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3600 pricing was kept up at ~200$ for some damn reason recently

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that's the only thing I see having price drop

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Sorry, I meant there was a small dip with the 20 series before the 30's came out. The cpus have been pretty constant

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I'm making a side comment with the 3600 pricing lel

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I mean there wasnt a dip there either I don't think

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:15 AM

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like I just don't get it

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for the past like 5 months it's been at 160$ 170$

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now it's 200$

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anyways

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Yeah that is odd for sure

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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GPU wise, 2070s was 500$ constant the whole time

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no dips

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no nothin

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I definitely saw a lot of resold 2080's for pretty cheap but maybe that was skewed by coverage. 😛

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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2080 super 700$ constant, with one or two card going to ~690$

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@dawn bough now the used market is the one that likes to fluxuate :D

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I saw a 2080 super for $500 local, I just wish i had $500 at the time lmao

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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New market just stands hard

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Used market just dips

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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it sold in 20 mins

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Dang dude, yeah I wish the new market went down more often. Would make my wallet feel happier. 😛

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:18 AM

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heh, don't we all

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I hope that scalpers don't get the new amd 5000 series

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I'm really hoping to get one

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:18 AM

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they likely will

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I'm just hoping for a queue system to kill their profits and for them to screw off

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Yea but i'm hoping

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either a queue system or a limit to one or two per address

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Queue system would be wonderful. Major props to EVGA for actually doing that.

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:20 AM

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EVGA's queue system sounds like the perfect solution.... But it hasn't been working according to people here in this discord who had notify on, and no queue position given.

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Maybe a queue system with some more visible info for consumers then.

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:20 AM

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eh, that goes into privacy and that's a whole different can of worms

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Its an interesting case

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:24 AM

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So, hypothetically. If I found a deal for a brand new 3800xt for $289 ($12 shipping) would that be worth it? I have seen a lot of hate for the 3800xt because it is so expensive new compared to what you can get for the same price but it still seems solid.

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A guy who has a lot from liquidation sales of large stock

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Looking to upgrade from my 3600

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Hypothetically, of course.

neat estuary Oct 8, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Just wait a couple days for AMDs announcement. You won’t see but a small fps increase in gaming. Not worth it

dawn bough Oct 8, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Well the announcement is tomorrow at 12 Eastern time but I don't want to miss out on a deal

long heath Oct 8, 2020, 2:45 AM

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MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk Am4 - any decent? Think it could be good to buy ahead of time for the announcement tomorrow?

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Let's wait.

faint ferry Oct 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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10700k and 9900k are the exact same besides the 10700k having like 5-9 more fps than it so all other stuff apply?

brave tartan Oct 8, 2020, 2:25 PM

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AMD's 5000 series is releasing at 12 pm est

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its gonna premiere on youtube id send the link but it gets deleted instantly

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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that is a ballsy "foundation" line from them in their summary

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I miss the AMD live today. How are the new Ryzen going to be?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:50 PM

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/16148/amd-ryzen-5000-and-zen-3-on-nov-5th-19-ipc-claims-best-gaming-cpu

AMD Ryzen 5000 and Zen 3 on Nov 5th: +19% IPC, Claims Best Gaming CPU

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@hollow thorn for you to read

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 4:51 PM

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heyo

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is it a launch summary? I watched the launch

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 4:59 PM

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So the AMD thing happened. I don't want to wait another month and abit for the ryzen stuff to have launch, have reviews out, and go back in stock after it all disappears (unless this new stuff is really supposed to be amazing, it seems they've ditched the value approach tho)
Can I just stick with my 10700k gaming build?

dusky pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 4:59 PM

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:yes:

hollow thorn Oct 8, 2020, 5:00 PM

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10600k

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 5:00 PM

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FYI I haven't bought ofc

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Mmm
I mean we can always go 10600 and see what rocket lake has in store

cyan night Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Amd cpus were kinda meh

naive pendant Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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What does 19% IPC uplift mean?

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Like general performance?or

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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its "per clock" they will be 19% faster (yes, this is simplified)

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so, IF you have 2 cpu's both running at the same clock speed

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one would be 19% faster than the other

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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So are is the 5gen worth it from what they said?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yes

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if the numbers hold up.

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as always, wait for reviews

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I still wanna see hands on

stone python Oct 8, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I’m not much of a motherboard genius , can anyone help with some motherboards that would be great-excellent for next upcoming zen3 processors?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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b550 and x570 chipset boards is the simple answer @stone python

safe geode Oct 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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do u guys think b550 for zen 3 if ur only using a gen 3 nvme and a rtx3000/rdna2

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:26 PM

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lets say reviews are good. Is the Asus tuf gaming x570 plus (wifi) good for it?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:26 PM

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none of the boards are "bad"

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its a question of: Does board X have the features you want?

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and are you willing to pay the asking price for it

stone python Oct 8, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Mmmmm ok awesome, thank you.

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Well I have a x570 board. I just wanna know if i would need to upgrade or not. Hopefully I don't

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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you will need to upgrade your Bios, and that is it

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Alright then sounds good.

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I have a ryzen 7 3700x so i wont be upgrading any time soon.

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Ima just switch it out for gen 5 and then use the 3700x for my streaming pc.

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Did they really cancel the x700 series for Ryzen?

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So no 5700?

hushed canopy Oct 8, 2020, 5:35 PM

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idk

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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It really seems like it. From what I’ve read the articles say “the 5800x is going to continue the success of the 3700x”

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Yeah looks like it

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How much is the 5800x or 4800x gonna be?

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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why would they make a inbetween model like last gen?

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Well then I’m glad I bought a 3700x then. They said the 5800x is $449

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/16148/amd-ryzen-5000-and-zen-3-on-nov-5th-19-ipc-claims-best-gaming-cpu

AMD Ryzen 5000 and Zen 3 on Nov 5th: +19% IPC, Claims Best Gaming CPU

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:37 PM

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And is the 5600x still r7

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@gritty meadow i thought they’d make an 8 core at the $300-350 mark

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And is the 5600x still r7
@magic cedar no it’s a r5. The 3600 is an r5 too

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Ah so is it more worth it to get a 5600x or a 5800x

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To pair with a 3080

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Or a 3700x

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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we dont know yet

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because its not that "simple" to answer

magic cedar Oct 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Mm

willow wagon Oct 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Ngl I recommend the 3700x but idk how much better the 5800x will be

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I’m of the opinion that a $700+ gpu needs an 8 core cpu but that’s just my opinion

gritty meadow Oct 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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again, not that simple