#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 128

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:48 PM

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ah

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but only has 3 actually good ones

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:49 PM

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oh, psh

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2230 is for a wifi card

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:49 PM

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good lord. You know you can just buy higher capacity ssds>

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 PM

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2tb too expensive

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lol

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 PM

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do you need wifi tho

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 PM

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its a nice to have

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 PM

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wifi integrated to the board looks clean

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:50 PM

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yea thats why I like the gigabyte ones

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and also have read that the bios isnt absolute garbage on the gigabyte boards

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:51 PM

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tada get this one

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looks good

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has all the necessary features

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is gonna oc like a champ

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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How do i paste a item from Amazon on my PC anyway

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My phone makes it easy

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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?

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copy the url?

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Im in the actual app

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Their is none

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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ill save that one to my wishlist as a back up if I decide not to get the x570 one

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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on your pc?

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that board for 175 is ideal

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:52 PM

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yes. their is a app in store

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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just use google chrome dont make things hard for yourself

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Its actually a neat website. ill figure it out sooner or later

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@main pulsar yea but I have a friend who works at amazon who said he might be able to let me use his amazon acc and get a discount

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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bruh, open google chrome, type in amazon.com

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I think he said it was like 20% off

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:53 PM

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But personally ive been useing the Strix B550-2

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:54 PM

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asus eww gross

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Its a lovely board.. If expensive

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:54 PM

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too much money for not as many features

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I will however use the B550 Aorus Master next time

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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the board i just linked is actually a good balance between necessary features and cost

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Actually. I just bought a B550-e open box off ebay for 167$

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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and its on sale

icy field Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@main pulsar well thanks for your opinion!! 😄 its deeply appreciated!

main pulsar Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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np

neat estuary Sep 26, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Ya I agree with Sassy. That is a good board

lean island Sep 27, 2020, 12:14 AM

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what processor to pair with a gtx 1660 super

quaint current Sep 27, 2020, 12:21 AM

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depends on budget and use case

lean island Sep 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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gaming

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ive got a 1660 super for a temporary card untill i get my 3080 so when i get my 3080 im gonna turn the 1660 into a budget build

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Careful of the 3080 been hearing the founders edition is encountering alot of issues lately

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Probably they'll resolve it soon and you'll have a bug free one in a bit just gonna take more time :(

lean island Sep 27, 2020, 12:39 AM

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screwed up launch and now technical problems?

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they dropped the ball on this one

long geyser Sep 27, 2020, 12:48 AM

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FE is one of the ones with least issues tho

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cuz they didnt skimp out with all SP-CAPs on the core bypass caps

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tbh all you really need to do is keep GPU Boost low, as in the actual OC GPU boost - not the advertised boost

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:02 AM

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I say they rushed it a bit trying to get ahead of AMD

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Yeah :(

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Just disappointing when things don't go as they're supposed to

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Im very excited for AMD. If they come in between 3070 and 3080 and have their drivers figured out then thats what im buying

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Same honestly

long geyser Sep 27, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Nvidia just needs to stop being jerks and release the drivers to AIBs earlier

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Of course i dont have that bad taste in my mouth from early adopters, I got my 5700xt Nitro 4 months ago after they fixed all the bugs

long geyser Sep 27, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Just about no AIB can push R&D into the GPUs if the AIBs have no drivers

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:05 AM

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How'd you like the 5700xt?

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I low key was considering one now but I want the new ray tracing tech cuz I'm greedy but the 5700 kinda been reasonably priced

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Its fantastic. Im running World of Tanks at Ultra settings 1440p at 144fps. I did a slight undervolt and it purrs away at 70c

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An WOTs is demanding af

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Damn that sounds pretty nice

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And that's 2K

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Think it could run 4k at around 60?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Its basiclly the raw power of the 2070 super without the ray tracing capability... So maybe call it a red 1080

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Oh okay

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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The 3070 will truly make it obsolete, and the 3060 ti which was leaked. But as a filler its excellent

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I really wanted the 3070 or the 3060ti

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Both seem like they specd nice

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Ok guys... Something crazy is happening on Hardwareswap recently.. When i search 3900xt i find some selling as low as 320$

sly gorge Sep 27, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i require assistance electronics
I just installed new mobo
and new cpu
and new ram
what immediate things should i notice a differenc ein?:>

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Any reason why I would go with the ROG B550-f over the TUF x570? Im not sure of the difference

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As well as this I believe b550 still has pcie 4?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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I think the B500-f has wifi 6, slightly better VRM, But thats about it. The Tuffx570 is a solid board

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Ill be honest with you. The Tuff is a better option. They are just so similar. The x570 will allow for more gen4 lanes

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Thank you. Thats what I have been thinking, and while I dont like the look of the TUF as much it has some better features. Is wifi 5 really that much slower? I do need to be on wifi where I live currently

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Its up for debate. Very few people actually have the internet connection available to use wifi 6

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I doubt for a normal scenerio it will make a diffrence

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I don’t think I would then. Seems like WiFi 6 is much faster than most consumer WiFis will allow

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Their are cheaper options in B550 tho. It just depends what your needs are

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This for instance looks good, and functions well

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Yeah it’s hard to decide between the two

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:54 AM

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I returned this once it was released. They had stability problems. But they fixed them now with bios updates

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Yeah it seems the Asus and MSI boards are the most stable overall

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But it depends on which

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:56 AM

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The high end Gigabyte boards are always top notch. I think this was just a little hiccup for them

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The B550 Aorus Master is without doubt the best B550 you can buy

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Probably. I definitely don’t want to spend over $200 usd tho 😂

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Its def enthusiast level stuff that is very unneeded.

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Yeah I’m spending a bit on my cpu and gpu but I know i won’t fully use all the features the high end motherboards give

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 1:59 AM

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You are actually already in a fairly high price range for motherboards. All the boards over about 140$ in the B550 line are capable of overclocking a 3950x

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I might get into OC but idk if I would need to get

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Its kinda pointless for Ryzen. But its fun

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Yeah I want the 3080 too and I don’t think it needs to be OC as well as the 3700x. They are both strong already

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Probably not

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Moreso if you're on 1440p or higher

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I’ll be on 1440. Also, are both x570 and b550 “future proof” to the same extent? As far as generational support

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Or since b550 is newer it will support more?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:04 AM

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B550 does seem to have slightly better Memory support. Like higher clock speeds on ram. and you dont have to worry about that little chipset fan

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Thats about it. X570 will always have more gen 4 lanes

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Both will support 5000 series

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I’m thinking 3600 ram

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:05 AM

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That's really all there is to it

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Is gen 4 just for extra gpus or?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:05 AM

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For sure. 3600 cl16 all the way

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:06 AM

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3600 cl16? Cl18 3600 makes it essentially equivalent to 3200 cl16

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:08 AM

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The lower the CL the better. 3200cl14 is about equal to 3600cl16.. But not always. Ryzen really likes that 3600 speed. Even if its 3600cl18

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:08 AM

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It’s 3600 cl16

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Ive seen benchmarks where 3600cl18 beat 3200cl14

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:08 AM

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And would extra pcie 4 just be good if I would want pcie 4 ssds?

midnight pollen Sep 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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pcie 4 really for futureproof, the ssds are fast but most people do not need those speeds really

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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So to answer your Gen4 question. The x570 gets gen 4 lanes threw the chipset. The Chipset feeds the lower PCIE slots. SO with a B550 the lower slots will only be gen3.. Not huge diffrence

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If you wanted to run a SLI rig. Then you would ideally have a x570 i suppose

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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So if I’m just using one gpu and just wanting an nvme ssd the extra slots don’t matter much?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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exactly

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and the gen4 speed isnt even noticeable in what us gamers do. Only people that regularly transfer 100s of tbs of data will actually make use of it

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Yeah i wouldn’t notice then lol

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And if I did get to the point where I would notice I’m sure I would have to upgrade the mb anyways..

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:13 AM

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With the recent benchmarks. Even haveing gen4 turned down to gen3 it made no difference on the 3080

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So your future proofing long before the future has even caught up yet

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However. We dont know how the AMD GPUS will work yet

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Yeah. The ROG Strix b550 is 10-15 more than the x570 TUF but I feel I would use the WiFi 6 before I would use the extra pcie slots

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Pcei 4 is hella expensive too

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I know. That’s why I’ve avoided it

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Tbh watching some videos

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 2:16 AM

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your talking a 1000mbs a sec internet connection.. But that's not strictly true. I think wifi works in different ways. I'm not very knowledgeable on that subject

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:16 AM

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You'd barely notice sata and nvme

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Unless you really need those like 1-3 seconds

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Probably not, but the nvme drive doesn’t have a wire and it’s the same price

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Eh it a bit more expensive

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I have a pretty small one rn I was thinking of transferring it but

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Mp34 is like 110 on Amazon

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And I get it tomorrow if I want

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I’m looking at the WD blue SN550

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$105

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Heard mp34 was good from others

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It's 110

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I guess 116.6 with tax

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Ah so another bonus for the b550-f is that it seems to have more fan headers

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The case I have comes with two and I’m adding 3 so I might need that

umbral fog Sep 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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? You getting an aio?

gritty meadow Sep 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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@willow wagon Y splitters is what you would normally solve it with

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I may

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I can get a really good deal on The 3 pack of Corsair icue fans so I’m using those for a while

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Which they come with a fan controller I believe so that solves my issue anyways

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I’m not too worried about an AIO as of now due to everyone saying how good the stock cooler is for the 3700x

lean island Sep 27, 2020, 2:52 AM

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@willow wagon make sure u have plenty of room for an aio

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i got one and its pushing against my RAM =[

willow wagon Sep 27, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Yeah I’ll have to keep that in mind

crude flax Sep 27, 2020, 4:04 AM

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ok so i have a question

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is it worth saving $50 for this mobo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G6VG3C/asrock-b550m-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550m-itxac

ASRock B550M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

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or just get this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9pn8TW/gigabyte-b550i-aorus-pro-ax-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550i-aorus-pro-ax

Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

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people say that the vrm's are bad which is about 400 amps or what they use to calculate them, but its the same vrm on the asus b550 itx board

native prawn Sep 27, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I personally would get the gigabyte over the ASRock. But everyone has different needs and money they are willing to spend. ASRock always creeps me out because they still have a ps2 port 😂 but some people like the PS2 port for various reasons. If you move up to the gigabyte you are getting close to the GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS Pro WiFi price probably has better VRM

split copper Sep 27, 2020, 4:39 AM

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So you can plug in your ps2s

native prawn Sep 27, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I haven’t had a ps2 in a while

crude flax Sep 27, 2020, 4:43 AM

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like its not that i wont be able to get the gigabyte one but im considering it because of the extra m.2 and better vrms

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but some people say you dont need that high of a vrm amparage for 3600

native prawn Sep 27, 2020, 4:44 AM

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You don’t

crude flax Sep 27, 2020, 4:44 AM

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i might get the gigabyte unless i change my mind

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thanks for the help

native prawn Sep 27, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Extra M.2 is nice

split copper Sep 27, 2020, 4:46 AM

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3600 is 65 watt chip, no?

crude flax Sep 27, 2020, 4:46 AM

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yes

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it is 65w

split copper Sep 27, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Nice low wattage

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I have an A8-7600 which is 4c4t and 65 watt

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No computer around it tho sadge

dusky pagoda Sep 27, 2020, 6:01 AM

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sadge ?

carmine lynx Sep 27, 2020, 8:27 AM

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would a Ryzen 9 3900x and a asrock b450 steel legend be good work together well? or should I see about upgrading my motherboard

high lynx Sep 27, 2020, 9:08 AM

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they're compatible... but you can get a ASRock B550M Pro4 for the same price

dusky pagoda Sep 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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asus tuf x570 with or without wifi, original price 180$ without wifi 160$

worn night Sep 27, 2020, 11:30 AM

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^

hollow thorn Sep 27, 2020, 1:39 PM

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@carmine lynx it'll work just fine

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No reason it wouldn't

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Only reason to upgrade to b550/x570 is if you need PCIe 4.0

carmine lynx Sep 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I already had this motherboard for my ryzen 5 3600

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alright thank you btw

split copper Sep 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

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You could keep the 3600 in the B450 and get 3900X with X570

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And have army of computers

carmine lynx Sep 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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that is true but like I am trying to keep it on somewhat of a budget

split copper Sep 27, 2020, 7:21 PM

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160 USD X570

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Idk which ones exactly, but though they're lower price than the other X570s, they're still decent boards I think

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 7:40 PM

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The X570 Tuf non WiFi is the 160$ish. It’s a pretty good board from what I hear.

wary crypt Sep 27, 2020, 7:51 PM

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should i buy a ryzen 5 3600 since there is some deals on it or wait for the new amd 4000 series and buy a ryzen 5 4600 when its out
since i want to upgrade my cpu mobo and memory since im currently on a amd fx-6300 currently lmao
i have around 500 budget ( gbp )

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 8:19 PM

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If you are comfortable with waiting until their announcement on Oct 8th then do so

lunar dust Sep 27, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Hey Guys I bought the Asus ROG STRIX B550-a mobo, whats the best software to monitor and modify fan speeds to regulate temps?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I like Argus Monitor. But it costs like 6$ a year

carmine lynx Sep 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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wait the annoucement for the 4000 series is coming out october 8th?

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 10:19 PM

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5000series

carmine lynx Sep 27, 2020, 10:20 PM

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5000 series?

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I was just thinking on buying the ryzen 9 3900x

neat estuary Sep 27, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Well its a good cpu, and will do pretty much whatever you need it to. But if you dont have to buy atm its a good idea to wait a week and a half

warped scroll Sep 27, 2020, 10:44 PM

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do B360 motherboard support 9th gen intel out of the box or is that only B365 and above?

ashen thorn Sep 27, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I think you have to go higher @warped scroll

warped scroll Sep 27, 2020, 10:48 PM

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oof

unreal ember Sep 27, 2020, 10:53 PM

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intel?

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ew

long geyser Sep 27, 2020, 11:18 PM

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@warped scroll I'd take a guess it's like b450, if new out of factory it'd have new BIOS. If not, then no. So kinda a luck game, maybe

warped scroll Sep 27, 2020, 11:18 PM

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alright. i wont take chances

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B365 it is

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intel?
ew
@unreal ember i3-9100F best value low end cpu 👍

long geyser Sep 28, 2020, 12:15 AM

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@warped scroll I'd look at the website of the mobo you want, if it's going to have new BIOS by some date specified (probs need to look at BIOS release date) then ask whatever reseller if it's new enough for the (probably) new BIOS version

warped scroll Sep 28, 2020, 12:18 AM

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i got B365m DS3H WiFi for $60 refurb now

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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wait do the Ryzen cpus auto ovreclock becasue I am looking into getting a ryzen 9 3900x with a b450 mobo and I am hoping I don't have to upgrade mobos to a x570 or something

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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First, yes, PBO. Second, no, you don't need to upgrade even for OCing :P

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Sure you'll (likely, depends on board model tho) have less ocing headroom, but that's no reason to spend another 150$ more on a mobo that does you no good otherwise,

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:08 AM

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okay

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I don't really need to oc

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isn't the base clock still like 3.6 or 3.8

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:10 AM

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The CPU on stock, without touching it, on default settings, will boost itself above that during daily use.

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:10 AM

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alright and the motherboard is going to limit it a little bit right

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:13 AM

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There's always some bottleneck somewhere, motherboard don't usually limit it much.

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:17 AM

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another question

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so intel xmp on ram right does that mean I can't enable it on a amd processor?

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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no

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xmp profiles work with both

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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alright so what does intel xmp mean?

gritty meadow Sep 28, 2020, 1:19 AM

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XMP = extreme memory profile

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the intel part of it you can safely ignore

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Alright fair enough

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thank you

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I didn't even know what xmp actually did unti earlier today

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I need to enable it I am running 2133 mhz on I think 3200 ram I think

gritty meadow Sep 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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:)

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and you are very welcome :)

carmine lynx Sep 28, 2020, 1:21 AM

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thank you

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would I go to #old-cooling to talk about case fans?

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:25 AM

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You could, no one will stop you having a convo about fans here or #building-and-recc-chat or #old-cooling

ashen thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Has anybody heard any news what new motherboards will support the ryzen series when they are released?

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@ashen thorn B550 and X570 have compatibility with Zen 3 almost certainly, and AMD Promised support for Zen 3 on B450, but no full guarantees there

ashen thorn Sep 28, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Okay thanks.

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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wayaminute

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@wary crypt ??? xD

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fancy seeing you here brother

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personally, ima wait for the new line of ryzen cpus to see if I can get a better price for the 3700x :)

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or maybe an even higher end one

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:04 AM

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should i wait for x670

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And then get zen 3

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or just get 3900x and x570

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:08 AM

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in my opinion, if you wanna spend the money for it then sure, but idk how much better the tech would be :p

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I doubt pcie 5.0 is gonna be a thing for it

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:09 AM

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lol

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why even make a pcie 5.0 lmao

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:09 AM

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idk

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if it becomes a thing and its like idk...

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2.5x faster?

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I dont see a point really

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:10 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MwWZBZ my list so far

System Builder

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waitin on zen 3

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aPES3_OhWait

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:10 AM

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the x570 board is on sale for more

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although it might be an open box than makes it less expensive 🤔

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not bad

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if I may ask, what is u gonna use the 3900x for?

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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streaming

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Video editing

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and game

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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zat is fair

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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PES4_Gamer

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Me ^

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:12 AM

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imo you should wait

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might drive down the prices for you

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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okie

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with everything else im getting it amounts to at least 3.3k

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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oofy

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Maybe even more now

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:15 AM

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do you think the the 3900x and below will go down in price?

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Did it happen with 2900

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:16 AM

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uhh

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if you mean the 2600 then i think so

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Ok

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Then the price drop percentage rate is 89.98%

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:17 AM

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89.98% of the original price?

dusky pagoda Sep 28, 2020, 3:31 AM

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no

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The chance of it even dropping

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how much the price would change is probaly around 10-30%

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2020, 3:36 AM

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oh I see

finite elm Sep 28, 2020, 4:43 AM

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3900x is nice for dev stuff. but it barely outperforms the 3700x in game. and with an RTX card the CPU doesn't really help with the stream as NVENC offloads it from the CPU to a specific portion of the GPU.

Not sure how it is for Video editing, have only done small amounts.

deep vigil Sep 28, 2020, 6:54 AM

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@finite elm It really depends on the use case

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Your pc looks to be a rendering/ video editing/ workstation pc

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The 3700x would be worse for all of those cases, but is only a little worse for gaming

grave crest Sep 28, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Could someone recommend me what/which 64gb ddr4 kit to get ? I have a asrock z390, 2080ti and i9-9900k for reference

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There are the two kits im considering ( need non rgb slim due to space constraints)

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y4ZZ7LQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_M3yCFb5RZZJAA

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0884TNHNC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_13yCFb57J071S

deep vigil Sep 28, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Why do you need 64gbs of ram?

grave crest Sep 28, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Erm since I have 48gb atm and want more

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Just don't worry about the usage XD im just trying to find the best to buy

deep vigil Sep 28, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Well you would selling the 2080ti and. Buying a 3080

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Since your pc is def not for editing

grave crest Sep 28, 2020, 7:27 AM

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The problem with dat is I have all hardline everything and there aren't gpu blocks out yet for the new cards

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Anywayyy im just tryna find which kit to buy 200Sad

steel zodiac Sep 28, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Anybody familiar with the B550 Vision D motherboard? Does it support NVME? On Gigabytes website it doesn't mention NVME at all. Read their manual and it briefly talked about NVME but very vaguely.

burnt notch Sep 28, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Sabren rocket q a good ssd?

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 10:31 AM

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@steel zodiac it does talk about it...

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And that's a yes.

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@burnt notch Pretty decent SSD, just a bit lower on dram.

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(and QLC)

steel zodiac Sep 28, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Guess I'm just accustomed to most mobos actually having the term "NVME". Thanks.

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Most mobo websites just tell ya you can use "PCIe 4.0 x4" NVMe SSDs or like "PCIe 3.0 x4" NVMe SSDs

steel zodiac Sep 28, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Noted for future references, thanks

dense sand Sep 28, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Does anyone know if An Intel Core I7 6700 @3.40 GHz Cpu and Acer Aspire T3-710 Motherboard (Prebuilt) Handle a 1650 super

neat estuary Sep 28, 2020, 2:34 PM

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It will.

dense sand Sep 28, 2020, 2:36 PM

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It wont blow up right lol

spice depot Sep 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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For a 3080 build, would the i7-10700k perform just as well as an i9-10900k?

main pulsar Sep 28, 2020, 3:39 PM

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probably

long geyser Sep 28, 2020, 3:52 PM

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OCed 10600k gets quite close to faily OCed 10700k iirc

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usually limited by IMC on 10600k for pure gaming perf

willow wagon Sep 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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What’s the intel comparison to the ryzen 7 3700x??

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 5:19 PM

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in gaming perf?

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10600k.

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Overall perf?
10700k

willow wagon Sep 28, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Oh yeah intel is behind

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A 6 core is the same price? And doesn’t perform as well...

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Performs better in gaming *

willow wagon Sep 28, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Well yes but that’s not saying much especially when for the same price you get more benefits in other applications

topaz shuttle Sep 28, 2020, 6:09 PM

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What is a good cpu and gpu pair for like $550

neat estuary Sep 28, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I used up my luck for the year. 167$ new open box B550-e

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hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Good enough

neat estuary Sep 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Barely good enough for my 3600 😉

willow wagon Sep 28, 2020, 6:50 PM

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That’s a good looking mb

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Is there a huge difference between the e and f?

fallen lynx Sep 28, 2020, 7:14 PM

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but does it work?

neat estuary Sep 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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The F costs around 200$. The E costs around 260 but adds more VRM stages, SLI(just 8x8) , type c front header, digital read out, and that’s about it. It’s the best Asus has to offer in b550

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I won’t be testing it for a couple days yet.

burnt notch Sep 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@hollow thorn it’s because I see it’s for $97 dollars. So I’m lookin for ssds under $100

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Mhm, it's quite decent for the price.

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I have a 150 dollar budget for the mobo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FVVNDFX?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=pcg-us-5954532962649470000-20 or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CSPTRH?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=pcg-us-1028867709217579600-20 Im trying to decide Im going with a ryzen 7 3700x

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Ive heard good things for both of them

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im guessing the asrock but im not sure

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Asrock 570 xtreme4 / 3800x works well as package

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I'll get another one for ya

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@torn dune another one :)
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro/p/N82E16813145213

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:00 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HvmCp8

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Ehm

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I'd grab a 3700x, then used the money used on 3600mhz cl16 kit.

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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aight

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this?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

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another thing about this with the mobo it says this

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Note:The Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard.

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Ignore it, D15s comes with am4 mounting.

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:17 PM

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aight

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrfd8M

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wq7Pmg
These are my final lists Ill most likely buy one is intel one is amd which one would be better for gaming/streaming

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the only thing I changed on there was the cpu/mobo/ram

echo pawn Sep 28, 2020, 11:28 PM

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anyone know of any motherboards that look like the MSI B550-A PRO but for an i5 9400f?

vagrant edge Sep 28, 2020, 11:30 PM

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anyone have experience with the prime B350 Plus Motherboard

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:33 PM

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@torn dune either should work well for you, personally i have had nothing but good service from asrock 570 3800x 5700xt, you will be much better on streaming side

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:39 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cvhmP6/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4s-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4s
@pure wolf

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this?

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:39 PM

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You do you

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I might make changes

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Aight

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:41 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zsfFf7/asrock-b550-extreme4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-extreme4

ASRock B550 Extreme4 ATX AM4 Motherboard

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my exact board but was more for look and second M2 slot under heatsink

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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k

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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personally i like the audio output on the asrock 570's

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ye

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:42 PM

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so much cleaner sound than previous mobo

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:43 PM

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is there a $160 budget 570 board?

heady root Sep 28, 2020, 11:44 PM

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x570-p?

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asus tuf x570 (non wifi)

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i think

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are around that

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@pure wolf what spu

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Alc1220/ supremefx 1220 are supposed to be pretty good

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:48 PM

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ALC1220 yep

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:48 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXpmP6/msi-z490-a-pro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-a-pro

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does this have decent audio

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:49 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/i/324305164030?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=324305164030&targetid=4580977766998583&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=403204665&mkgroupid=1238050308086972&rlsatarget=pla-4580977766998583&abcId=9300377&merchantid=51291&msclkid=090bee8eabe31b898b31b1fcdda69e06

eBay

ASRock X570 Pro 4 AM4/4DDR4/HDMI/DP/ATX Motherboard | eBay

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hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

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@torn dune a lot of boards have alc1220

pure wolf Sep 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

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can get new like 20 more dollars

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Like b550 phantom gaming 4 does iirc

torn dune Sep 28, 2020, 11:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkLwrH/asrock-x570-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-pro4

hollow thorn Sep 28, 2020, 11:52 PM

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B550 pg4 is usually 115$, and has an ALC1200, which is pretty similar to an ALC1220

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:00 AM

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MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

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seems good

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:00 AM

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no

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don't

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vrm heating issues

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What's wrong with a b550m aorus :P

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what are you tryna get from a x570?

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:00 AM

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nothing

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just exploring

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Just so you know, there's very little difference in chipsets other than a fancy name for most people.

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:02 AM

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is it this

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/39LwrH/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-aorus-pro

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yes

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It has ALC1200

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good audio, since we were talking about that earlier.

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:02 AM

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aight

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and will be good for the amd ryzen 7 3700x and 3080 geforce if motherboard does anything to gpus

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yes

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:03 AM

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aight

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:04 AM

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PCIe 4.0 is more or less optional for 3080, but it does have it.

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Im so sorry for bugging you Im new to picking parts and the names just get so confusing it legit will change one letter and it can be so much better lmao other than that thanks

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 AM

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is ok

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These are reasonable questions.

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Any good B550 motherboard for around $160-$190

torn dune Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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ask him he smart

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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what about 120$ >:)

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Hm

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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at 160$-190$ you might as well go Asus x570 plus @cunning pumice

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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True

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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And yea B550m Aorus pro at 120$ is pretty good

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I was gonna go Asus B550F strix but idk

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Does it seem overpriced?

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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to me, any B550 board above 150$ = overpriced.

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Oh

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:07 AM

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I mark the spot between B550 and X570 making sense at 150$.

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(X570-p price point)

quaint current Sep 29, 2020, 12:08 AM

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strix boards usually have a lot of features for higher prices

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I mean it has some pretty good vrms and vrm coolers

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Very few people need the extra features, so it's much easier to say "don't get that 180$ b550 board, this 120$ b550 board does everything you need it to do."

red wadi Sep 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Quick question, what reasons are there to get X570 over B550 except for having multiple gen4 slots?

neat estuary Sep 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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none

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 12:43 AM

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@red wadi everything else is model-based.

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Chipset wise (in general), that's all the reasons.

red wadi Sep 29, 2020, 12:44 AM

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So either b550 or x570 would be perfectly fine if I wanted to upgrade to one of the new upcoming ryzen cpus?

quaint current Sep 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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yesss

spice depot Sep 29, 2020, 1:51 AM

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This motherboard has me confused https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144303?Item=N82E16813144303&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-9WVSRSjZUM2wAwBWBdrdCw Can it use 2 m.2 or not?

neat estuary Sep 29, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Yes. I see 2 heat sinks just looking at it

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It even looks like it can hold 3

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NM. just 2 M.2

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Fits all 3 sizes

spice depot Sep 29, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@neat estuary I was reading about it disabling a slot after putting one in

neat estuary Sep 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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oh. Id say it disables a couple sata ports and maybe the bottom x16 slot. Just watch a review.. they explain it every time

spice depot Sep 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Thanks

junior hedge Sep 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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wow'5900x leaked

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12c/24t zen 3 5ghz whew

inner lodge Sep 29, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Hey can somone help me

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I'm going to upgrade my gpu to a rtx 2060 and am wondering if my i5-9400f will bottleneck it badly

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Please @ me with a response

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 11:14 AM

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Thonk things may get interesting

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Guess we’ll see in a few days

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Good morning all, total pc building noob here looking for some direction. I have purchased a: ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard but didn't realize it does not have wifi. should i switchout the board or will an adapter work fine?

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:02 PM

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adapter should work

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that's what i did anyways

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:03 PM

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which one did you go with?

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:03 PM

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how fast is your internet?

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:04 PM

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well, lets just say SLOWWWWW. I live in what is considered a remote area, so I only get line of sight internet. 10mbs Down/3mbs Up. Sad I know.

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:05 PM

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nah, mine is worse

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somehow

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lmao

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one sec, trying to find box

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:05 PM

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hate to say it but that makes me feel better. hehehe

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:05 PM

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yeah there's litrerally nothing else i can get here lmao

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$100 a month too

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rip

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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the neighborhood to my north (which i can throw a baseball into) has cable but, they wont come into our l;ittle hood. frustrating

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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I had the PCE-AC51 wifi adapter, it plugs into your motherboard

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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156mo here

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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ooof

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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my wife works from home so we can cover that, but its still not a pretty sight

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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you can also get wifi adapters from walmart and such, though. they plug into your usb ports

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oh yeah definitely

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:07 PM

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thanks a ton for the help. one more question if you don't mind..l.

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:07 PM

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i've spoken to some people in here that pay like $30 to 40 for 1Gbps speeds

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sure, whatcha got?

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:08 PM

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this is the memory i purchased to install on MOBO. G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model ... did i overshoot

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:09 PM

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no, thats fine 🙂

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what do you use your computer for?

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:11 PM

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work and some gaming. work is email based with some pdf editing and website searching. gaming is skyrim (modded somewhat) and the new BG3 (when released). maybe a fps very rarely.

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ton of youtube videos on pc building and car building. nothing really heavy

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:13 PM

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you should be perfectly fine. 16gb should be plenty, and 3600 ram is really good. make sure you read your mobo manual to know which slots to put ram into.

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i think my ram is just 3200

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and 16gb as well

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your mobo has 4 slots for ram as well, so if you wanted to upgrade to 32 gb in the near future, just buy the exact same ram and put it in unused slots

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:14 PM

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gotcha, I was thinking the mobo tops out at 3200 speed. so i didn't know if i should downsize (if it might save some money)

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Thanks for your help!!!

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:17 PM

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if your mobo only supports up to 3200, it'll limit it at 3200, im fairly sure. didnt think about that. it still should run and itll be fine if you've already gotten it though

tender grove Sep 29, 2020, 1:17 PM

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cool. thanks again.

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:18 PM

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yeah bud! hopefully everything works out for you, best of luck

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@hollow thorn 3600 ram should work on mobo limited to 3200, right? it'll just limit it to the 3200 cap?

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:23 PM

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hai

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:24 PM

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cool, just wanted to make sure, didn't wanna tell him wrong

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:24 PM

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That motherboard doesn't limit to 3200mhz?

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@dark flame no b450 boards limit ram freq like intel does

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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oh really?

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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it does have a max somewhere due to memory traces

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but they don't limit you

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I think 'a' motherboards do, have to check, but all the rest don't limit ram

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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yea 3200mhz is max rated for 2nd gen Ryzen

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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just saw this and thought it limited it, woops

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:26 PM

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but the motherboard won't stop you from going further

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and 3600mhz is max rated for 3rd gen ryzen

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afaik AMD doesn't limit ram freq, so I'll tell you what Intel does if you go over:
Setting xmp of 3200mhz on a H mobo that limits to 2666mhz just makes it crap out and not boot and require clear cmos

dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:28 PM

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of course. i remember a guy had that issue here a while back but wasnt sure that that was the cause

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:28 PM

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yea there's a max rated because it might not like it if you go over

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but it doesn't firmware/software limit you

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Just checked, a520/a320 mobos don't limit ram for AMD.

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For example for you, @dark flame this is my motherboard, doesn't SAY it supports 3600mhz, but I'm running 3600mhz ram on my mobo :P

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dark flame Sep 29, 2020, 1:35 PM

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well that's not confusing PepeSmile

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i had also looked on their website and found where it said "DDR4 3466 OC", so I had just assumed it wouldnt support it

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thanks for clearing that up, though!

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 1:37 PM

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remember, they don't want to promise too far just to get people coming in screaming AHHHHHHH MY MOTHERBOARD DOESNT DO 4000 MHZ I WANT A REFUND IT SAYS IT CAN DO 4000 OC

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Is the 3100 good for streaming?

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And gaming

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Games like: fortnite, rainbow 6, gta

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:08 PM

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what do you call good

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:P

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I just wanna stream, decent quality, lag/freeze free

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:08 PM

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And remember, streaming doesn't really care about cpu if you grab a Nvidia GPU with nvenc

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I have a 1060

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But plan on upgrading soon

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To a 20 series card

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:09 PM

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ye 1060 can use nvenc

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lag/freeze free isn't something you can easily tell from just specs and stuff :P

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Quality in games mostly depend on GPU, 3100 does fine up to a certain point at 1080p.

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Here’s what I’m planning to get

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I have all the other parts already

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:11 PM

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ugh

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Bad?

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:13 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkFL3t

System Builder

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:P

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hm

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forgot hdv only had 2 ram slots

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:14 PM

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My dad wants me to only buy off amazon, 🤦‍♂️

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:14 PM

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god damn it

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that's my main problem with it

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...

devout mothBOT Sep 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Paura#9431 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Shite

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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does he not trust B&H

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I cant believe that the ROG Strix b550 is over 200 while the Tuf x570 is only 190 or so

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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at least grab the cpu from b&h

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and maybe better ram

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mobo is meh

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@willow wagon and that's why high end b550 just doesn't make sense to me

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Tuf x570 plus is 160$

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tuf x570 plus wifi is 190$

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I need WiFi which is why. So I’ll probably just get that then

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Idk why I would get the b550 for more

vestal pier Sep 29, 2020, 3:25 PM

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📎 video0.mp4

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That’s my list, I have the gpu, hd, psu, case already

hushed canopy Sep 29, 2020, 3:26 PM

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he said some 100ft ethernet cable😂 mine is 75ft and is mad long imagine 100ft

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Does the Aorus Elite x570 perform any better than the TUF x570?

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Perform in what way

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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As in cooling and Bios ease of use

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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um

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first doesn't get affect by motherboard

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second is all personal preference

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:P

split copper Sep 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Vrm cooling

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And chipset

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I guess

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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VRM cooling doesn't matter unless it's really bad

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and we know the bad offenders

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like msi x570 plus/ a-pro

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chipset all have a fan for x570 sooo

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basically same thing

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Well thats why I ask, because I was looking at the MSI at one point

split copper Sep 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I have bad vrm and chipset cooling

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Meaning non-existent

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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and if the Gigabyte was the same I wouldnt want that

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I know it doesnt REALLY matter, but I dislike the look of the Asus and would rather get the gigabyte if the differences are negligible

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 3:48 PM

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What aorus board elite?

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Its good

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:48 PM

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@willow wagon this is exaggerated because no airflow, but that stretches out the margins so you can tell.

📎 X570-VRM-Open-Test-Bench-225-Watt-.png

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and also 225w

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which is impossible for anyone to consistently pull without ln2

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A more realistic situation testing in a case :

📎 X570-VRM-Test-O11-225-Watt.png

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:50 PM

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well the aorus elite isnt on there... that doesnt seem good

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Unless its similar to the pro in which Ill be fine then

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:52 PM

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point is

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only real issue is with MSI x570 gaming edge and a-pro, and gigabyte x570 du
VRM COOLING WISE

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Well then I should be fine thank you

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 3:53 PM

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so take that off your list of requirements as long as you know :)

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The only things a normal person needs from a motherboard is connectivity and audio :)

magic cedar Sep 29, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Do u think its worth waiting for the ryzen 4th gen

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Or should i stick with the r7 3700x

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 4:57 PM

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3700x should be fine. Thats what im doing

magic cedar Sep 29, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Kk

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Itll probably be a smaller change that wont increase performance by any amount like the 30 series did, but it should be better

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I dont know if that makes it worth the wait

midnight pollen Sep 29, 2020, 5:10 PM

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i just want to clarify something, if someone know the answer ping me. Which cpus have intel vpro, all the modern ones? Specific product line?

main pulsar Sep 29, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@midnight pollen certain intel cpus support vPro, mostly laptop cpus and specific desktop ones, but whether or not the feature sets that vPro refers to is enabled depends on the chipset and motherboard features

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so theres no wat to know which ones do unless you look at a model specifically

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and the fact that it has it doesnt mean the features that fall under vPro are enabled

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iirc, one of the requirement for a system to be vPro is a TPM module

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most systems dont have that, but business laptops that have vPro cpus do

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after looking through ark.intel, almost all cpus from the past decade are vPro eligible

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so its really just dependent of chipset and motherboard features

digital kernel Sep 29, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Soooooo how much weight are we putting into this PST rumor?

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:44 PM

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a

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I have a Ryzen 3 that I still have....okay also I have 8GB of ram and an extra mobo

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So technically could I have another computer

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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mhmm

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and

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I would just need to get a case and power supply

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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ok

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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The Ryzen 3 has its own IGPU

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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its a 2200G?

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or 3200G?

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yea

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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ok

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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2200G

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:45 PM

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where are you going with this

bronze summit Sep 29, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I could make a pc out of these parts and give it to my sister to use for Minecraft and YouTube

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Right

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 6:46 PM

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yeah

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:17 PM

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pardon my possible rookie knowledge but if anyone knows, why is ASRock's X570 Extreme4 more expensive than the X570 Steel Legend despite being almost exactly the same motherboard? GWchadMEGATHINK

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(I ask because I like the Extreme4's color scheme more 200Sad )

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 7:20 PM

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steel legend usually had worse quality

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better looks worst quality
-Every ASRock Steel Legend board pretty much

cunning pumice Sep 29, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Can anybody recommend a B550 board thats good and is $160-$180?

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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now im sad over a $45 price difference

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@cunning pumice what about Asus x570 plus

magic cedar Sep 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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msi mag b550 tomahawk or asus tuf gaming b550 plus

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 7:25 PM

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That question keeps irking me the wrong way

willow wagon Sep 29, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Can anybody recommend a B550 board thats good and is $160-$180?
@cunning pumice I just purchased the aorus pro b550

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Without WiFi it’s less than $180 and I’ve heard very good things about it

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@warped scroll is it a bad idea to get it used for less moneyz?

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condition: "very good"

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 7:30 PM

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i get used parts all the time

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but for stuff that high end and expensive might be a good idea to get new

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up to u tho

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:31 PM

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missing "bonus" material

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the heck does that mean

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well I was gonna wait anyways for the new lineup to drive the prices down :>

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I hope atleast

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but really the only difference is they switched 1 port and extreme4 supports dts connect

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 7:40 PM

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probably means missing IO shield, sata cables, box, manual, etc

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I count that as worth the extra $40 difference imo tbh

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the box was damaged apparently

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so yeah new is probably the better option

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anyone know when the new ryzen series is being debuted?

warped scroll Sep 29, 2020, 7:49 PM

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its also missing warranty probably

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2020, 7:53 PM

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the used one is yeah

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wasnt offered

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the weird part is like no one carries the extreme4

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only amazon and newegg

midnight pollen Sep 29, 2020, 7:58 PM

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ya that's what i thought

devout latch Sep 29, 2020, 10:22 PM

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when are the new intel cpus coming????

umbral fog Sep 29, 2020, 10:26 PM

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good amount away

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the 10700k launched may 27th so should be a good amount away

spice depot Sep 29, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Will i5 - 10600k bottleneck 3080?

dusky pagoda Sep 29, 2020, 10:37 PM

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N OMEGALUL

umbral fog Sep 29, 2020, 10:48 PM

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depends

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at 1080p pretty much everything is bottlenecked by the cpu

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but it'll probably push the highest fps of current gen cpus, because gaming performance wise a slightly OCd 10600k, 10700k, and 10900k are the same

spice depot Sep 29, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Thanks

forest birch Sep 29, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Just wait for 5800x and 5900x, completely destroyed the 10900k lol

naive pendant Sep 29, 2020, 11:59 PM

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11th gen will destroy 5900x the same way lol

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and 12th gen will def be 7nm, and completely wipe everything away from it;s sight with ddr5.

hollow thorn Sep 29, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Who the hell knows

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We won't know until it comes

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We don't even know if Zen 3 is gonna be good

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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exactly

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Leaks are leaks, they're not official.

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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but 12th will def be ddr5. so will 6th gen amd

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Remember when people thought 10900k needed ln2?

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@naive pendant we don't know tbh

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It makes the most sense

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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yeah but its a good bet

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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But we don't know until it comes

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 12:00 AM

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hk hynix already has their 8400 dimms ready

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yea

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the reason why intel is doing 10nm not 7nm rn bec its hella expencive and 10nm costs them 100 mil to develop and 7nm 300 million

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the main reason at the least lmao

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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They're also starting their tsmc partnership but that'll also take a few years

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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for their gpus.

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6nm my bad

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their Xe gpus or whatever

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intel cpus will most likely always be their own silicon

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 12:08 AM

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It's a possibility it's also CPU

sharp gorge Sep 30, 2020, 1:17 AM

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i have 16gb total of system ram but its only letting me use 11gb of it can i fix that?

hollow thorn Sep 30, 2020, 1:25 AM

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@sharp gorge tried turning it off and back on again? :P

sharp gorge Sep 30, 2020, 1:26 AM

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@hollow thorn yes i have

charred venture Sep 30, 2020, 5:41 AM

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look up how to remove system allocated ram

carmine lynx Sep 30, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Question would getting like a audio card be worth it anymore?

empty crane Sep 30, 2020, 8:20 AM

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can a i5 4670 use the same motherboard as a i7 3770

midnight pollen Sep 30, 2020, 12:10 PM

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People do still buy audio cards, but mostly external ones. And id say they worth if you like to listen to music a lot and have good headphone

magic cedar Sep 30, 2020, 12:44 PM

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is a r7 3700x better?

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or is a i5 10600k more worth it

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with a rtx 3070

main pulsar Sep 30, 2020, 1:12 PM

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10600k better for gaming

midnight pollen Sep 30, 2020, 2:47 PM

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3700x for everything else

warped scroll Sep 30, 2020, 3:11 PM

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can a i5 4670 use the same motherboard as a i7 3770
@empty crane nope. i5-4670 is an entirely different socket

umbral fog Sep 30, 2020, 3:16 PM

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@magic cedar if you haven't bought a Mobo think some 10700ka Mobo combo deals are going

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Yes

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Just has to have the right bios if the mobo isn't new

crude flax Sep 30, 2020, 5:22 PM

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should i get this cheaper one now https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G6VG3C/asrock-b550m-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550m-itxac
or wait a bit to get this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9pn8TW/gigabyte-b550i-aorus-pro-ax-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550i-aorus-pro-ax

ASRock B550M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

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i hear the cheaper one has the same vrm as the asus b550 itx which is surprising

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but i wanna know if i should shell out more

pale flume Sep 30, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Hello, My son just purchased an Asus x512ja-sb71-cb which has 8GB of RAM. My understanding is that 4GB are soldered on the motherboard and that the expension slot is occupied by another 4GB. Which SODIMM (size and speed ) would max out the Ram on this laptop? Can a 16GB be installed? a 32? Thanks?

vivid pewter Sep 30, 2020, 6:33 PM

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According to crucial, unless I have the wrong laptop, it supports a max of 20 gb of ram total so a 16 gb ram stick would work and for the speed, I would get one that matches the soldered memories speed and timings if possible.

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 7:54 PM

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New too PC, So i plan on getting more RAM, and that would be 2 16GB

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Would that still work with my 8GB, I'm not sure if i should combine the 2 or not

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 8:00 PM

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you could start by "just" getting a single 8gb stick to supplement your current 1 stick

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remember, identical sticks are recommended

lament beacon Sep 30, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Hello, can someone tell me what bios version this ships with? https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813119147

naive pendant Sep 30, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Then i'll just get 2 brand new ones and keep the old one for testing purposes

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@lament beacon depends on the age of the stock that newegg has

lament beacon Sep 30, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Ah ok, well I checked and they don’t know lol. Just bought one of those boards and it seems the bios isn’t up to date to take my 9th gen cpu... think I can get them to lend me an 8th gen cpu to update the bios ? 😛

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 8:13 PM

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re: lend a cpu: no.

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re: stock age: yes, for some reason they dont track their inventory age (i have no idea why they dont, any semi-modern storage/inventory system can/does do that)

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safest bet is to get a newer board

lament beacon Sep 30, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Lol yeah I figured, it’s annoying because in the description it said it can support 9th gen cpus.
They fail to mention that a bios update is required. Thanks

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 8:16 PM

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sorry mate, you have to direct that feedback directly at newegg

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who knows, they might listen if enough customers mention it :)

lament beacon Sep 30, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Yeah I will

carmine lynx Sep 30, 2020, 8:17 PM

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yo so I have beyerdynamic dt 770 pro with a syba sonic amp would a audio card be worth it?

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 8:18 PM

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the syba sonic is a usb dac. it already IS a soundcard @carmine lynx

midnight pollen Sep 30, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Lol

sick raven Sep 30, 2020, 9:16 PM

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My motherboard is out of USB headers, can I use a USB 2.0 splitter for my case RGB controller and my AIO cooler RGB controller? Are internal USB splitters generally safe to use?

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Hopefully im in the right chat, USB headers do seem motherboard-related

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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you generally dont "split" the usb connectors directly @sick raven

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you go to a hub with the signal, and then that "splits" it for you

sick raven Sep 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Right, sorry. Probably a poor choice of wording. But are the hubs generally safe to use? Are there any I should steer away from/any you recommend?

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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for a usb hub? a hub is a hub really. Expected powerdraw is normally the natural limiting factor :)

sick raven Sep 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Awesome! Thanks for the help

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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you are very welcome, best of luck :)

devout mothBOT Sep 30, 2020, 10:04 PM

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BooRo#9352 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

carmine lynx Sep 30, 2020, 10:04 PM

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oh wait forgot

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@gritty meadow Thanks btw

gritty meadow Sep 30, 2020, 10:07 PM

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you are very welcome @carmine lynx :)

crude flax Sep 30, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Would it be worth it to get this mobo?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G6VG3C/asrock-b550m-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b550m-itxac

ASRock B550M-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard

inner lodge Oct 1, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Hey can somone help me
I'm going to upgrade my gpu to a rtx 2060 and am wondering if my i5-9400f will bottleneck it badly
Please @ me with a response

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Nah

inner lodge Oct 1, 2020, 12:11 AM

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ok thank u

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I has question

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I bought 32GB of ddr4 memory that runs at 3200Mhz

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I have an i7-7700 so naturally it wont run above what it's rated to

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(runs at 2400mhz but motherboard makes it 2133 dont ask)

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my bios and task manager are reading it as only 2400Mhz

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is that because of the cpu?

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I wouldve thought that the pc would still show it as 3200Mhz but idk

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 12:57 AM

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the pc shows it as what it is running at @blissful dragon

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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sooo

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should I be concerned?

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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why would you be?

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:00 AM

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just about how it doesnt recognize the ram as 3200Mhz

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:01 AM

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as i said, the pc will see it as what it is running at

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IF you are running it at 2400, that is what the machine will see

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:01 AM

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alright

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if the pc seems ok with running it above what the mobo is rated for, I wont tell it no

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:02 AM

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what mainboard do you have?

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:02 AM

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uhh

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asus h110 plus

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to be fair the pc thinks it has 4 dimm slots while it only has 2

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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aye, 2400 seems to be the limit

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and where does it say it has 4?

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:04 AM

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📎 unknown.png

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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thats taskmanager, that info can be both right and wrong at the same time :)

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nothing to worry about :)

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:05 AM

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alrighty then

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(the ram has lifetime warranty btw)

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so now I have some 2x8GB 2400Mhz sticks for who knows what lol

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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it could be used for a separate system

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that is up to you :)

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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im a college student

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only affordin 1 system atm

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TECHNICALLY I could make another one running on integrated graphics

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but I need atleast a little return on investment to help cover the cost of the new shtuff

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:08 AM

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iGPU is solid for a server machine

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:09 AM

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PRICE DROP on my bookmarked motherboard!

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dropped by a whopping $1

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how generous

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well now that you mention server 🤔

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I hope I didnt hurt my ram by having to push on the heatsinks a little bit

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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most likely not

blissful dragon Oct 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I doubt theyre just glued on so yeah

willow wagon Oct 1, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Am I okay with cl18 memory? I’ve heard it is just slightly slower than cl16 but as long as I’m fine I don’t mind

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It’s 3600mhz

midnight pollen Oct 1, 2020, 4:01 AM

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For ryzen ya should be fine

willow wagon Oct 1, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Okay cool. I ordered a kit but didn’t notice until after. From what I read it’s more of an issue at 3200 speeds or less

echo pawn Oct 1, 2020, 4:44 AM

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if i were to go with 32gb of RAM should i go with 2x16 or 4x8?

blissful silo Oct 1, 2020, 5:27 AM

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4 x 8

glossy vigil Oct 1, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Looks nicer

lean warren Oct 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Unless you want to upgrade in the future

vale oracle Oct 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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it's that time of forever lads

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reccomendations for a MB for a 3100

deep vigil Oct 1, 2020, 6:08 AM

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B550 pro vdh wifi

modern tundra Oct 1, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Hey so, I'm looking at a board that has an 8+4 pin cpu power connector. My PSU only has an 8 pin CPU power out, how would i connect the other 4 pins when I try and do some overclocking? Can I just connect a peripheral power to it?

neat estuary Oct 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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The only way you will ever need that second pin is if you start cooling with LN2.

modern tundra Oct 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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really?

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alright

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Basically.

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Hey everyone, trying to upgrade ram but i'm so lost. I've found my mainboard is a GA-78LMT-USB3 R2 and when running my game it bogs down and gets up to like 80% memory usage so I'm looking to add some more. Only info I see is its a ddr3. Any advice?

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@inland pewter well, just from the naming I'm guessing it's an optiplex or similar?

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Oh wait

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I'll get back to you, hard to do things on mobile

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So it's 4 slots supporting up to 8gb of 1600mhz each

📎 Screenshot_20201001-105022.png

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I'll grab you some kits for reference that'll work

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I have 1 stick installed at 8gb, says single channel, nb 2013.1, dram 805, fsb 1:4

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Thats about the only thing I know, a bunch of 'clocks' listed below that

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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This should work
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1022886-REG/patriot_pv316g160c9k_vpr3_dim_2_kt_16gb.html

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i know i have 4 ddr3 slots, I had kept some sticks from my old computer and the little space didn't line up so Im not sure if it works with all brands or if its just the wrong thing

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Well, if you want to just swap out sticks, previous sticks don't really matter

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Different ddr standards have different amount of pins and such

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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if it is ddr3, it will fit

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Like ddr3 is 240pin, ddr4 is 288pin

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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and the notch is also physically in a different spot :)

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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so all ddr3 are interchangeable?

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@gritty meadow as long as it's 240pin dimm and not laptop 204pin sodimm

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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aye, regualar non-sodimm

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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not sure what that means

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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https://sites.google.com/site/tvcccis111jt0979/_/rsrc/1422653703296/laptop-ram/dimm sodimm.png

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Anyways, see that kit of 2x8gb I linked above? That'll work if you just swap out what you have now with that.

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@inland pewter dimm is for desktop, sodimm usually laptop.

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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bottom type is meant for laptops :)

inland pewter Oct 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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okay thats great

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Thank you all so much for the help!

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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You're welcome :)

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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best of luck with the upgrade :)

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@hollow thorn you remember the TUF b450(m)-pro gaming boards right?

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Yea?

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Do you think we're getting a b550 replacement?

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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boy, do i have a rollercoaster story for you :D

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Let's hear it :)

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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remember how both of them had 1200 sound chips?

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and that the gaming plus did not have that chip?

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Yea

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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https://edgeup.asus.com/2020/refreshed-rog-strix-tuf-gaming-and-prime-b450-motherboards-boost-your-builds-bang-for-the-buck/

Edge Up

Joseph Kincaid

Refreshed ASUS B450 motherboards boost your build’s bang for the bu...

AMD's B450 platform is the perfect foundation for budget builds, and we're boosting your bang for the buck with new ASUS B450 motherboards.

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they are shuffling the names around "just" enough that it is cluster hump of epic proportions to keep track of

worn night Oct 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@hollow thorn @gritty meadow maybe you guys have mentioned this before but what cpus would you ever need an 8+4 pin cpu connection from the psu to the Mobo?

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That's overkill right?

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Lmao tru that

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Hm

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@rotund cloak that is a HEDT chip.

worn night Oct 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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A standard 8 pin is fine I'd think for the majority of builds

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@worn night none NEED it on a consumer platform

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Even 10900k can run stock off a single 8 pin

worn night Oct 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Excellent

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@gritty meadow weird.... Tho looks like b450m pro keeps the 1200 and plus still doesn't have one?

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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notice the actual names

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TUF B450-PRO GAMING
TUF B450M-PRO GAMING <- old names

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TUF Gaming B450M-Pro II <- new one

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also, note, the "TUF B450-PLUS GAMING" used to NOT have a decent chip

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it does now

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for reasons unknown

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@gritty meadow I thought alc887 isn't good, and still listed for the plus

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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aye, for the "old" Plus

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look in the article i linked :)

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Oh the a prime has 887 still

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Lemme find plus

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It's hard on mobile :(

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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here you go @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Ah

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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depends on the laptop

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some DTR's can, most normal laptops? no.

long geyser Oct 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@gritty meadow Very fun, ATX Plus 2 is good SPU and mATX Plus 2 is poor SPU. totally not confusing

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 6:44 PM

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:)

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i made some very unflattering sounds when i read it yesterday

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side note @long geyser you did notice they are doing cpu-less bios updates on those boards now?

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 6:55 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac/p/N82E16813145216?Item=N82E16813145216 does this one have a tmp chip

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 6:56 PM

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when you say "tmp" what do you actually mean @naive pendant ?

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 6:56 PM

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It’s a chip

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Trusted platform module

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But locker requires it

fallen lynx Oct 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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TPM not TMP

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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yes, which is spelled TPM

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Ok

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That thing

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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and yes. that board will work with it

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Does this mean that’s it’s one the motherboard or I’ll have to buy an tpm chip

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?

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:00 PM

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-AORUS-PRO-AC-rev-1x/sp#sp

GIGABYTE

B550 AORUS PRO AC (rev. 1.x) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

AMD B550 AORUS Motherboard with True 12+2 Phases Digital VRM, Fins-Array Heatsink, Direct-Touch Heatpipe, Dual PCIe 4.0/3.0 x4 M.2 with Thermal Guards, Inte...

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Internal IO, number 16

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:00 PM

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So I do t need to buy

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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try that sentence again

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:02 PM

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My motherboard only has 15. Numbers

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Oh on the internal it category

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So does this mean that I have to buy one or it comes with one

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:04 PM

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there is a module in the CPU

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IF you buy one that has it

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if not, you would need a external module

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but again

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why do you think you need it?

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:05 PM

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My cpu is the ruse. 3900xt

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For bitlocker

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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its not a requirement to have TPM for bitlocker

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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It is

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:07 PM

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you CAN use TPM with bitlocker, but you dont NEED it

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Oh

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According to this site you need it https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/windows-10-home-vs-windows-10-pro.html

What are the differences between Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro...

Windows 10 is available in the Home and Pro versions, but what is the difference between the two? We'll explain that in this article.

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:07 PM

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that site is wrong then

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Ok the. Does a tpm make bitlocker better

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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long story short: Its complicated

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Ok then can you link a good tpm

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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the only ones i know of are not available to consumers

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Why

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That’s weird

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Newegg has a bunch which one shall I get

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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not for me to say

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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TPM is related to what privacy/security needs you have

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so, figure that out, and then decide on what you actually need

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Are there any other cool chips like tpm

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Maybe, depends on definition.

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and since you dont have a actual problem. I will be doing other things. Best of luck.

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Ok

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One more thing

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Will this chip work with my motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asus-model-tpm-m-r2-0/p/1JW-000C-00166?Description=Tpm&cm_re=Tpm-_-1JW-000C-00166-_-Product

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:16 PM

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read above

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yeah but is this specific one compatible

gritty meadow Oct 1, 2020, 7:20 PM

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read above, again.

naive pendant Oct 1, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Are you trying to say that they all are the same

long geyser Oct 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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side note Hei you did notice they are doing cpu-less bios updates on those boards now?
@gritty meadow yeah, interesting that it's apparently even on the lowest end.

hollow thorn Oct 1, 2020, 10:24 PM

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They're just following what MSI's been doing now, just gotta hope for asrock and gigabyte to get that into lower end boards

loud sparrow Oct 2, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I have some sort of static noise coming from inside my PC and I suspect it might be the motherboard

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@loud sparrow that sounds like it could be coil whine to me. Can you try to pin point where it's coming from? Coil whine usually commonly come from either the PSU or GPU.

loud sparrow Oct 2, 2020, 12:59 AM

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I can hear it loudest from the back of the computer

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I can also hear it on idle

lethal glacier Oct 2, 2020, 2:57 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B550-AORUS-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B089FT8G44/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=b550+motherboard&qid=1601607282&sprefix=b550&sr=8-5

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Is this a good mobo for price?

jovial flare Oct 2, 2020, 3:02 AM

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whats ur budget

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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For the price that one is good

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Also look at msi mag b550 gaming plus

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Should be same price

orchid flicker Oct 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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For a RTX 3090 what AMD CPU should I pare it with?

vale oracle Oct 2, 2020, 4:12 AM

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The MSI Mortar Max is a MB everyone's had good experience with right? Or is it the Tomahawk.

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Hey I've got question about mobo

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can I plug ethernet cable into LAN port ?

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to connect internet to my pc

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Should I have 16 or 32 gb of ram for a 10700k? Used for gaming

barren slate Oct 2, 2020, 6:38 AM

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i think 16 gb is plenty for gaming

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but if you find a cheap 32 gb buy it

dark flame Oct 2, 2020, 6:39 AM

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I think one of few games that uses above 16gb of ram (according to what I’ve heard) is Microsoft flight sim in certain areas

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I’ve got 16gb and never even gotten close to maxing it out, but just depends on what you play/what resolution

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Ok makes sense
Am always seeing these expensive intel rigs with 32 gb and idk what they need it for

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 8:17 AM

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having more than a couple of things open at one time @naive pendant

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 8:18 AM

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So maybe I should get more down the road
Like a browser during games?

gritty meadow Oct 2, 2020, 8:18 AM

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my 2 browsers + the system itself, uses about 7-9 gigs

marsh iron Oct 2, 2020, 8:34 AM

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this is with my 5 web pages discord system steam open https://gyazo.com/8deb6e01e5ad1a12f908def6d47cee16

Gyazo

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 11:15 AM

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I guess it wouldn't hurt to upgrade in the future
I'm just already over budget with this build

topaz shuttle Oct 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Would a 5 2600be good with a 2060

jovial flare Oct 2, 2020, 3:38 PM

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yea i think

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i got a 3600 and it pairs very well

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so 2600 should be good

fallen lynx Oct 2, 2020, 4:02 PM

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@naive pendant yes, that is where you plug in Ethernet cables

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:03 PM

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f4-3600c16d-32gtzn was wondering if this ram is compatible with AMD CPU?

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Yeah

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?

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:04 PM

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It didn’t say that it is compatible to AMD

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:05 PM

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It still will be

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Hm

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Also how would i know if the ram is a B die? Sorry for asking

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:05 PM

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If its c14 or lower

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Its probably b die

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Ohh. I seee is there a big difference if i get c14 or c16

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:06 PM

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No not really 3600 C16 is the sweet spot

naive pendant Oct 2, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@fallen lynx ty

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:07 PM

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And the lower the latency the better?

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Yeah

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Thank you

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Also how come when i search the f4-3600c16d-32gtzn on AMD website it doesn’t pop out on their list?

cunning pumice Oct 2, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Uh

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:16 PM

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@glad lodge okay lemme start from the top, this is the easiest way to find if it's b die
https://benzhaomin.github.io/bdiefinder/

B-Die Finder

Find Samsung B-Die DDR 4 memory kits on Amazon, Newegg and many more.

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And from the naming, sounds like it's the b die kit

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Then, I assume you mean "on AMD's website" as on your motherboard's website's QVL?

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QVL Is only sticks they have tested to for sure work, and sticks not on the QVL commonly work.

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Im so confused

topaz reef Oct 2, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I tried Thaiphoon to find out mine and they list as b-die but really arnt

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that site seems the most accurate

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:23 PM

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It's alright, can you tell me your current questions? @glad lodge

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@topaz reef assuming they already have the stick, if they're researching the stick, they can't just run thaiphoon burner.

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I want to find if it’s a B die and if its compatible with Amd CPu?

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F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC that is the p/n

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:24 PM

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That's the kit I have actually xD

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Most ram that they sell mentioned the compatibility issue and this one didn’t have any descriptions of the compatibility issue

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And i search on Amd website if this ram is compatible with the CPU and it doesnt show on their list

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:25 PM

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the important part is the C at the end, the kit that's
"F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC" is not B-die
The kit that is like 70$ more, and no C at the end
"F4-3600C16D-32GTZR" is B-die

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I have the kit that isn't B die, still works great, just less overclocking headroom.

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Ohh ok

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Most ram that has Z on the end is. Die?

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:26 PM

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not all kits are "c at the end means no b die", just this specific situation for ya :)

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Nah, it's a ton more complicated than that sadly

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I just know because I looked into it for my own kit.

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Is there a big difference on performance wise with B die and non b die?

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Nope, if they're rated at the same speed and timings, they run at the same speed and timings when you run xmp

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The reason people go for B-Die is for overclocking

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if you're not looking for overclocking capabilities, no need to spend 50$ more.

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Thank you

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Next, what motherboard (and CPU) are you looking to use?

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:29 PM

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X570 rog strix gamin E

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:30 PM

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(By the way, if you want someone to look over your whole list, I can do that for ya :D)

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Im also waiting for the ryzen 5000 series

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:30 PM

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ooo that's a big boi board, is there something specific you're looking for on that motherboard?

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fair enough

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I’m just mainly using it for gaming

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Im planning on getting 2 m.2 nvme

hollow thorn Oct 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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(Just gonna put it out there now, there's motherboards that can do that for much cheaper)

glad lodge Oct 2, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Also i need motherboard that has wifi