#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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main pulsar
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i thought it was random lol

hollow thorn
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Well 78$ vs 95$ is a gap

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Idk how it works

main pulsar
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i think its random

hollow thorn
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And b550 ds3h was oos

main pulsar
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i dont really care all that much, but i do want access to the fan c chat

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oh, the cheapo asrock b550 isnt oos

hollow thorn
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B450 ds3h was in stock like 10min ago

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I want fancy name

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Because JP got legend so I'm no longer unique

main pulsar
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u have a fancy name already

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ohh

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yeah

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and im about to b legend

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hopefully

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maybe

hollow thorn
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Niceee join the club

main pulsar
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im like 4 levels away

hollow thorn
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Watch me take box's 4th place

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:)

main pulsar
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well, he ded sooooo

hollow thorn
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61111

main pulsar
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ugh

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ryoku is catchin up

hollow thorn
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What's wrong with Ryoku

sharp cairn
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I want something a little more than I need*

Just a little. That's why I'm willing to pay a little more

main pulsar
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i mean

hollow thorn
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Also I'm now on the bdo grind now :p

main pulsar
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you dont need a 3600, you could get buy with a 2600 and a RX 580

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ya know

hollow thorn
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@sharp cairn in this case, we're choosing quality over quantity

main pulsar
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it just gets to the point where to get more, the amount of money required is unjustifiable

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my cpus are from like 2013

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my gtx 1080 launched in 2016

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ya know

hollow thorn
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My stuff came from last year and 2 years ago

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I ain't old

main pulsar
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ur an old man mr1

hollow thorn
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No u

main pulsar
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dont think i cant see right through your disguise

hollow thorn
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Noooo I'm like 12 yo

main pulsar
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im 9

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old man

hollow thorn
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:o

main pulsar
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:/

naive pendant
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is the corsair rm psu good

hollow thorn
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Yes

main pulsar
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RM and RMx are good

naive pendant
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ok

main pulsar
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the newest RM psus are amazing

hollow thorn
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Not as good as ion but still great PSU

naive pendant
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whats ion

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what company are they from

main pulsar
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fractal design

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they make the ion+

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good psu

hollow thorn
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The PSU in Sassy's list

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Btw sassy my phone really wants to autocorrect you to daddy idk why

main pulsar
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yeah, alllllllll the way up there

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hahahaha

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let it

hollow thorn
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Okay

main pulsar
hollow thorn
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But anyways a 560w ion+ is the same quality as a RM650 imo

main pulsar
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you should petition to get another rank after legend

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for 60+

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then u be unique again

hollow thorn
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Lol @mike I want my own special role

main pulsar
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hes desperate

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lol

hollow thorn
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Very desperate

vagrant mist
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geez that mobo spreadsheet is big

warped scroll
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i think its random
Yeah mods just decide they want you as techie and then they just give it to you without you even knowing until you get back online lol

hexed osprey
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lol

small tulip
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It says max 95C, what’s that mean?

warm path
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Like the maximum temperature it can get to before thermal throttling @small tulip

small tulip
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Ohh I see thank you

quaint current
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that’s just the highest it went in that session

scenic briar
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does anyone know if the asrock x370 pro gaming motherboard is ryzen 3rd gen compatible?

digital kernel
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Let me check

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The individual vendors might supply a bios that does support them though

languid star
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amazing i know

dry horizon
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that's not quite the word I'd use

languid star
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hey this is my 11yo baby leave her alone

warm path
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Lol

eternal helm
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Woah..... Basher is hitting on an 11 year old?wuuut

digital kernel
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Why do people insist on running windows 10 on old hardware

main pulsar
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win 7 or linux on old hardware

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ez

digital kernel
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Yeah

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Don't do windows 10 on old stuff

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You're hurting it

woven cosmos
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AMD Ryzen 5 3600, ASUS PRIME B450M-A, 16GB DDR4, AMD Wraith Stealth theese for 329 pounds/364 euro/ 433 USD, Worth it?

digital kernel
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Is there a cheaper motherboard option?

woven cosmos
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unknown

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already have a 1050ti alongside a 350/400watt PSU

long geyser
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USD price is quite high for that

gritty patio
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I5-6400 or i5-4690k?

main pulsar
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4690k for cheaper mobo and ram

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6400 better perf

gritty patio
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Okok I already have a 6400 from my old pre-built

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Plan on putting it in a different house new cooler and better gpu

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Will past gen gpus go down even more?

frigid pelican
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CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB 3600 CL18 or CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB 3200 CL16? Planning on having a B550 and AMD Processor.

midnight pollen
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ryzen might benefit from higher clock speed more

deep vigil
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@frigid pelican why only Corsair ram

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And do u need 32gb

woven cosmos
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anyone be able to give me a good bundle for about 300/400 euro? ive got a i5-4460 atm

frigid pelican
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I plan on gaming and streaming so I'd rather be on the safe side and get 32gb. I bought the LPX a few days ago but just saw the Pro went on sale. Pretty much just second guessing myself lol

long geyser
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Same freq but better timings and thus better perf

copper crag
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When are more 10900k coming?

long geyser
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10900k is pretty meh now. New Intel CPUs are coming out quite soon as well as AMD CPUs. AMD is more then likely going to beat Intel out with the new CPUs even in gaming. Plus, why get a high core count CPU from Intel when AMD is the one who dominates that market?

inner plaza
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so we got ourselves a 4670k system for like 350

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i can send full specs

worn plover
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Sure

inner plaza
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4670k, Maximus 6 Hero, 16gb ocd to 2133mhz, 1070ti, 240gb ssd, 2 tb hdd, spec 02, 650w 80+ bronze powerspec

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i think its pretty dang good

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also 1070ti is strix variant

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so i bassically got a 2tb hdd and 1070 ti and everything else for free

worn plover
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Yeah that pretty good

inner plaza
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noice

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how do i change nickname ;-;

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i might flip pc

naive pendant
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you right click the server you want to change your nickname in

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and press change nickname

inner plaza
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i cant ;-;

naive pendant
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its cause u have to get to level 3

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i am pretty sure

tranquil wolf
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RMAing my mobo to manu,, "21-41 business days" turnaround lol

dry horizon
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yikes

tranquil wolf
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and the replacement will be "certified refurbished"

frozen flame
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What’s a good mobo for 3900x

copper crag
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These new intels will have higher clock speed? And ETA? I would like to build a new system soon.

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@long geyser

warped vigil
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Hi, I need help w/ compatible RAM

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I bought RAM twice and it won't work with my MSI B450M Pro-M2

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The Ram I bought is CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 DRAM DDR4 2933 (PC4 23400) Desktop Memory Model CMW16GX4M2Z2933C16

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CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 DRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model CMW16GX4M2D3000C16

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the Corsair website says the second set of RAM should work with this model of MSI mobo

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when I fire up the Mobo it gives me three long beeps and the test light on the mobo says its a DRAM problem

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the mobo won't boot to bios

long geyser
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@copper crag what's the purpose of this build?

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Gaming, workstation, smth else?

warped vigil
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desktop for work

long geyser
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Have you tried both sets by themselves?

warped vigil
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yes

long geyser
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Is XMP or DOCP enabled?

warped vigil
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I think I need to access the bios for those settings?

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or is it a jumper pin on the mobo?

quaint current
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yes

long geyser
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^
Also have you tried resetting CMOS?

warped vigil
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yes, reset cmos first

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2x DDR4 memory slots, support up to 32GB
ƒ Supports DDR4 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667 MHz by JEDEC,
and 2667/ 2800/ 2933/ 3000/ 3066/ 3200/ 3466 MHz by
A-XMP OC mode*
y Dual channel memory architecture
y Supports ECC UDIMM memory (non-ECC mode)
y Support non-ECC UDIMM memory

  • Please refer www.msi.com for more information on
    compatible memory.
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that's from the MSI mobo manual

warped vigil
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yeah, I think both speed's that I tried should work

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ddr4 2933 & 3000

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I bought all of this stuff from Newegg - should I try another mobo?

hollow thorn
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What CPU do you have?

warped vigil
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AMD RYZEN 5 2600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 95W YD260XBCAFBOX Desktop Processor

hollow thorn
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In slots 2&4 or whatever the Mobo prefers correct?

warped vigil
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there is only two ram slots

hollow thorn
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Alright

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It's possible the Mobo is at fault

split cave
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im wondering what i should use for a motherboard, im gonna do a r5 3600 and 2060 super build

hollow thorn
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Any decent b450/b550 board

split cave
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ok

trim dust
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so a 450 will just have to have an update installed?

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because there isn’t a huge difference between them right

digital kernel
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The main difference is pcie 4.0 to the m.2 and first pcie slots

topaz reef
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The b450 is plenty fine imo

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there really isnt any consumer use for pcie4 rn anyway

primal torrent
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This question is probably asked a lot but I'm going to purchase a 3600 and a b450 but I wouldn't be able to update it if it doesn't already come updated

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anyone know if newegg has them updated?

hollow thorn
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All of the new stock has it updated

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So as long as you don't buy a used board from a year ago, it's fine

primal torrent
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Ok so anything on newegg canada will have it updated

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Alright

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thank you!

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do you guys think I need to buy an m.2 heatsink?

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Because the budget boards don't come with their own

hollow thorn
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No

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It's unnecessary

rain igloo
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Should I waif for 4th gen Ryzen?

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Wait*

digital kernel
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Yes

gritty patio
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ya

copper crag
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Will it be 5 ghz?

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And is intel releasing something new/better than 10900k

hollow thorn
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Can't predict the future

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Intel should get some 11th gen chips with PCIe 4.0

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But those will prob have the same marginal gains you expect for Intel generations

digital kernel
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@copper crag clock speed doesn't really matter for comparison between architectures. For example, the 3800xt can run at 5ghz

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However, given that they already have a die running at 5ghz and that they are supposed to have an increase in clock speed, I'm gonna guess yes

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The main improvements that we're likely to see is an improved IPC and a decreased latency from the infinity fabric

tranquil wolf
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what would be a good equivalent/replacement board for an MSI MPG Gaming Edge AC? need to stay w/ socket 1151 (300-series)

orchid cloak
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Ryzen 7 3700x or Ryzen 9 3900x

warped scroll
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uh

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3900X ofc

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but 3700X is still good if you wanna save them precious monies

orchid cloak
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Thanks

amber lantern
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is this good ram?

digital kernel
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@amber lantern What CPU will you use it with?

amber lantern
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3600

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@digital kernel

digital kernel
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Then no

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For the 3600, there's no use in getting ram faster than 3600MHz

mild jackal
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(assuming you want to run it at xmp)

amber lantern
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so if i alrdy bought it is that a bad thing?

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@digital kernel

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i’m new to this stuff

mild jackal
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Just manually set the ram speed to 3600 mhz, 16 18 18 38 timings

hollow thorn
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Maybe try 16-16-16-36

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That kit should do that easily

amber lantern
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if there is a chance i can send it back would there be something better for my system?

digital kernel
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It'll work, the basically that it is too good for your system

amber lantern
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dang

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ok

digital kernel
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Good for an upgrade in the future though

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For one more gen at least

amber lantern
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👍🏼this is my first build

orchid cloak
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Ryzen 9 3900x vs Ryzen 9 3950x

hollow thorn
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Prices are vastly different

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One has more cores and better bin, one is cheaper

lethal glacier
hollow thorn
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didn't we answer already

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Anyways ryzen 3rd gen all deal with ram the same way

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ignoring igpu

lethal glacier
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Thought it was about the 3600

hollow thorn
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3600mhzc16 is the sweet spot for price and perf and Infinity fabric

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smth like 3800mhzc14 is ideal as a goal to OC to I'd say, IF can usually get OCed to 1900, but not guaranteed, and of course the tighter the timings the better.

amber lantern
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@lethal glacier copying my ram😤

lethal glacier
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😂 looked good

hollow thorn
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It's expensive

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85$ for a good 3600c16 ripjaw kit yaknow

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Then there's that kit at 110 for 4133c smth

amber lantern
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@lethal glacier idk some youtuber had it

lethal glacier
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Ahh

junior hedge
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Thoughts on 3900x vs xt?
trying to make a future proof build ( waiting on 3000 series nvidia cards)
iirc the rog crosshair viii has pcie 4.0 so that shouuuuld support the gpu
xt is about $60 more but offers that hz difference, i'm leaning to 3900x tbh

upbeat lichen
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yeah i don't think the XT's are worth it in general

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too small of a boost clock boost for the money

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get a 3900x and just use ryzen master to push it the 100mhz that the XT would give you

junior hedge
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thanks!

versed raven
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if I have 4 slots for memory on my mother board and want a total of 64gb ram, is it better to have 2 x 32 in 2 slots or 4 x 16 in 4 slots for work with audio production?

long geyser
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@junior hedge crosshair is overpriced for being "future proof". Don't get it for that reason. Also if waiting for 3000 series, wait for Zen3

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But to answer the question, XT isnt really worth it as Chauntalei said

quaint current
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any x570 board isnt futureproof really cause theyre gonna switch sockets on ryzen 5000

supple monolith
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Is that confirmed?

gritty meadow
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@supple monolith as confirmed as we can get it at this point in time.

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it is based on the following: DDR5 is coming. And it is very likely that the 5xxx series from AMD will be using that. And that would require a new socket

supple monolith
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Ah, aight.

gritty meadow
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also, AM4 is getting fairly old by now :)

digital kernel
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Yup. One more year left on AM4

gritty meadow
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well, the boards will be around for a good while yet. and also being produced for a while yet @digital kernel

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not like they are going "so long, thanks for all the salt" in a year

quaint current
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yea

gritty meadow
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i will admit, i would smile IF they did

quaint current
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haha lol

vague anchor
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i need help
I have a x99a sli plus motherboard, what cpu i should i get
im be do gaming and a little bit of video editing
im looking at the i7-5820k
dm me or lmk what i should get

gritty meadow
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@vague anchor please dont double post. IF someone can/wants to help. They will.

vague anchor
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i just saw this channel so i deleted of the other channel and did it on this one

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but sorry

digital kernel
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Ah

gritty meadow
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fair enough @vague anchor

digital kernel
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Deleting is an odd approach, but okay

gritty meadow
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(better than having doubles)

digital kernel
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How much are you looking to pay for that i7?

vague anchor
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like 130

gritty meadow
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also, do keep in mind, that is NOT a strong cpu anymore

digital kernel
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If it was more like 100, I would say sure

vague anchor
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im gonna use x99a sli plus

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and i already have the mobos

digital kernel
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So this is basically the best CPU for that socket, isn't it

gritty meadow
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you are ofc free to do what you want Dev :) i am just curious "why"

mild jackal
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I'd sell the chip, pick up a b450 / ryzen 3600

hollow thorn
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(And sell the board?)

gritty meadow
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@mild jackal you misread that :)

digital kernel
mild jackal
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tbf - 58x0k chips can OC a lot

vague anchor
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i dont plan to uprade it later

mild jackal
digital kernel
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Will you be overclocking Dev?

vague anchor
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and i do plan to build a full on pc later on but im kinda young rn so yea

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yea i do

digital kernel
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So this is like a frankenstein of parts you found?

gritty meadow
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do you have a cooler (not the stock one)?

vague anchor
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i got some parts from my dads work

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im gonna buy a cooler but idk which one too

gritty meadow
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could you list what else you have?

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so we have an idea what you are working with?

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that makes the recommendation calculation a lot easier

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(so that we actually help you VS help you lock yourself into something that is not a good idea)

vague anchor
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yea

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msi x99a sli plus
nvida gtx 1050ti
wd cavier black 1tb

gritty meadow
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no ram?

vague anchor
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i need buy

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im getting 16gb cruical ram

gritty meadow
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for how much?

digital kernel
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Also what speed

vague anchor
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68$

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3200 ddr4

gritty meadow
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that wont work

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oh no, my mistake

digital kernel
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Will it?

gritty meadow
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its the hedt platform

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it is overkill, but it will work

digital kernel
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Okay

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That's also really expensive for 3200MHz

heady root
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pretty sure you can save a few bucks on the ram

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yeah

mild jackal
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x99 is a pain to work with

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Doesn't like to memory oc

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OC crowd talk about it being pretty CursedLand often

vague anchor
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im trying to send my list for seetup

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but it wont let me

gritty meadow
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@mild jackal could you fix his permissions?

mild jackal
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done

gritty meadow
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thank you :)

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try again @vague anchor

vague anchor
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i might go with a another power supplu maybe a 400 but thats what im looking at

heady root
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$116 for a 1tb hdd?

vague anchor
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i already have it from an old system

heady root
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well that's fine then

vague anchor
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yea i already have the x99a sli plus, hdd, 1050 ti

gritty meadow
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where the parts you own are marked as purchased :)

heady root
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feel like the ssd could be a little cheaper

mild jackal
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I'd honestly just ebay the board, and go

heady root
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^

vague anchor
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thank you

heady root
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i'd maybe switch the ssd to like a team mp34 512gb

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its like $66

vague anchor
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honestly ill go for a 250 ssd

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cuz the main games im play is fortnie, warzone, and gta

heady root
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that power supply is quite a lot as well

vague anchor
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yea i might go to 400

heady root
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450w should not be near $100

vague anchor
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i can get a 450 for 50 bucks

digital kernel
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Okay that PSU is expensive

vague anchor
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do psu work wiht any mobos

urban ferry
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yes

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sometimes the PSU might not have all the cables though

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but it will still work

gritty meadow
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@vague anchor "honestly ill go for a 250 ssd" <- please dont. That will be a limit for you later on.

digital kernel
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Just get the mp34

urban ferry
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256 fills up pretty quick tbh

digital kernel
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Yeah

vague anchor
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yeah

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k ill stick with the 500

vague anchor
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thx

digital kernel
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Where's the case?

vague anchor
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i have one

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its like old tower

digital kernel
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Do you know what case it is?

vague anchor
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its pretty big so its should fit

digital kernel
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Can you take a pic of it?

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If it's a big enough case, there are some better cooling options available

vague anchor
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i cant but it sorta look like this

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but a bit modern

digital kernel
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So maybe an mATX case?

vague anchor
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yea i think

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but it pretty big inside

digital kernel
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Have you checked that the motherboard fits in it?

vague anchor
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no

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lol

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if it doesnt fit my dad said i could a new case so yea

digital kernel
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It might not fit

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Did you find any other CPUs that might work with the motherboard?

vague anchor
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yea but there a bit moree expensive

digital kernel
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So the 5820 is the cheapest you found?

vague anchor
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yea and its pretyy good for my needs

heady root
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how much were you buying that for again?

digital kernel
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130

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right?

heady root
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should be a few other options around that area

vague anchor
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maybe lower

heady root
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amd wise

vague anchor
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depends where i buy it from

digital kernel
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Already has the intel motherboard

heady root
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rip

vague anchor
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yea

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but thank you for all the help everyone

digital kernel
vague anchor
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k thank yu

digital kernel
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Saves about $25

silk spindle
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can i ask you guy some info about building a PC?

urban ferry
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ask away

silk spindle
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Which one should i get for GPUS MSI 2070s or gigabyte 2070s?

digital kernel
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If it's the MSI ventus, go for the gigabyte

dry horizon
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Gigabyte

silk spindle
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sweet thank so much guy

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so i got Ryzen 3700x and giagbyte 2070s now gonna look into case and other component

tacit hemlock
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Nice!

charred venture
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gigabyte gpus are large when triple fan

dry horizon
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All gpus are large when triple fan

shell heron
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gigabyte b450 aorus m handle a 3700x?

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then overclocked to match a 3800x?

hollow thorn
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I mean 3700x=3800x even without oc ;)

tacit hemlock
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Lol

wind field
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What's better x570 or b550?

tacit hemlock
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Depends on what your using the pc for

wind field
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Mostly gaming and some video editing and some picture editing not very much is mostly a gaming/school pc

tacit hemlock
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Then b550 is fine

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X570 only really makes sense for pcie 4.0 based storage solutions

wind field
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I kinda want the Wi-Fi though and I gave debated putting storage in the PCi slot

tacit hemlock
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Most likely won't use any storage drive that will require pcie 4.0 and x570 isnt the only board with wifi

wind field
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What would handle a Sudley overclocked ryzen 9 3900x

tacit hemlock
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Both tbh

wind field
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Does b550 have a flashbios button?

tacit hemlock
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Some do

wind field
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How much are b550?

tacit hemlock
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Varies, usually around mid 100s

wind field
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Ok

hollow thorn
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Depends on the exact mobo

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prices vary from 95$ to 200$+ for b550

wind field
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And I have debated putting storage in the PCI slot because I'm not going to put hard drive in it and there really fast plus for a starter drive I am going with 500gb m.2

hollow thorn
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Don't bother with PCIe storage

tacit hemlock
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Well ya, m.2s are fast but not exactly well priced for extra storage when you can get a barracuda 2tb for like 60 bucks

hollow thorn
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You should just ignore optane and stuff

tacit hemlock
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Ya, not worth it

hollow thorn
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they're not for usual consumers

wind field
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That hdd I don't feel comfortable putting hdds in my pc

tacit hemlock
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Why not?

wind field
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Im going to be taking it to friends house 2 times a week

tacit hemlock
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I mean, as long as you don't drop it or lean it on some weird kind of angle it'll be fine

hollow thorn
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shaking

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Hard drives don't like shaking

tacit hemlock
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Make sure its secured in the case properly

wind field
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I just don't feel to safe my dad drives down my friends house at like 10 mile an hour because there are craters in the road and I would be sitting next to me on the seat

tacit hemlock
#

Well, its your decision

#

2.5in sata ssds would also be a cheaper alternative then pcie based m.2s

wind field
#

Yeah I was just considering pci that's it

hollow thorn
#

You mean M.2?

tacit hemlock
#

Now I'm confused lol

wind field
#

How?

hollow thorn
#

PCI storage is really rare

#

So I'm wondering if you're confusing M.2 and PCI

wind field
#

I was just considering the ones that go into 2ed 16x slot

tacit hemlock
#

I assumed you meant getting a pcie card that has the m.2 slots on it

wind field
#

No I'm not I am starting my storage in my pc as a m.2

#

No

tacit hemlock
#

Ok

hollow thorn
#

yea ignore those please

tacit hemlock
#

Fr

wind field
#

Lol

hollow thorn
#

Unless you have a server, you shouldn't really use them

wind field
#

God I wish I could have had a little over 2000 dollars yesterday the gpu I had in pcpart picker went up in price by a lot

tacit hemlock
#

What gpu?

wind field
#

Msi rtx 2080 super

tacit hemlock
#

Hmm, doesn't seem like a card that fluctuates price much

#

What was the difference?

#

In price

wind field
#

Yesterday on Amazon it was 800ish dollars today it's 1400ish

tacit hemlock
#

Usd?

wind field
#

No

tacit hemlock
#

What currency?

wind field
#

Yes sorry I miss understood

tacit hemlock
#

Oh lol. Ya don't buy that at 1400 pls

wind field
#

I won't

tacit hemlock
#

Thats probably just because they sold out and thats the only seller available rn

wind field
#

I cant

tacit hemlock
#

Want me to see if I can find a replacement for you?

wind field
#

It says out of stock

#

Sure

tacit hemlock
#

Ok 2 secs

hollow thorn
#

zotac 2080s was at 730$

#

at b&h

hollow thorn
tacit hemlock
#

Not in stock

#

Click the link and you'll see

#

Bestbuy does that all the time

wind field
#

Amazon has it to for 900

tacit hemlock
#

Not worth imo

hollow thorn
#

900$ is not worth at all

#

MSRP is 700$

tacit hemlock
#

Might be able to get a used 2080ti for around there

hollow thorn
#

I wouldn't buy it above 750$

tacit hemlock
#

I saw 2 go for 940ish

hollow thorn
#

Above 800$ is ridiculous for 2080 super

tacit hemlock
#

You could get the other one and put it on water for the same price lol

wind field
#

Water?

digital kernel
#

Water cooling

hollow thorn
#

Put custom liquid cooling

tacit hemlock
#

Custom loop

digital kernel
#

Purdy colors

wind field
#

God no

tacit hemlock
#

Lol

#

Ya, that might not go with the whole car commuting thing lol

wind field
#

Yep

#

God I hate pcpartpicker so mucb

#

Much*

#

Nzxt sells the cooler I'm going with for 250ish and pc part picker only has Amazon listed on there with it around300 dollars

tacit hemlock
#

Thats not pcpps fault tho

wind field
#

I'm blaming them LOL

tacit hemlock
#

They just report the prices the retailer has it listed as

#

Blame the retailer lol

wind field
#

And also my case has not seller on pcpp

#

But it is on there

#

@Treadstone that is my build

#

If u make a part manually and put a url with it will the price change on pcpp

#

?

dry horizon
#

It should pull the price from the page

wind field
#

Ok because I copied the url from nzxt and put it in and it said url not found and then u have a option to manually enter the url and the rest

#

Thanks

tacit hemlock
#

List looks ok, that aio is way overpriced (but I'm sure you know that), the ssd is overpriced aswell (I would sub it for a mp34 from team group), the motherboard seems like a bit much too.

#

Also, you don't need 850w

#

Could honestly run it on a good 550w but for the sake of future proofing, a 750w seems like a better decision

wind field
#

The aio is 50 dollars over what it's is on nzxt

#

and I would not mind having the 850 for bigger builds later in life and the x570 mb is cheapest for not used and meats what I want

midnight pollen
#

hate pcpp? use newegg part picker 😉

hollow thorn
#

@wind field A reasonable price for a 280mm AIO is around 140$ soooooo

wind field
#

@iTechGhost newegg does not have all of the parts

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn whats good itx case

wind field
#

And @Mr1111 it has some things I really want

hollow thorn
#

???

#

Uhh gimme a sec

midnight pollen
#

newegg has everything wuuut

#

even strange looking candy

hollow thorn
#

@deep vigil like really itx like the velka 3 or commerical itx

deep vigil
#

prricey

#

was thinking about a h1

wind field
#

@iTechGhost it does not have the case I want

deep vigil
#

@hollow thorn why did the h1 just go to 350

#

fomr 350

#

to 400

hollow thorn
#

idk

#

I don't watch itx cases

deep vigil
#

well sht

wind field
#

@Squidkiller_38 u think that's bad a gpu that I looked at Saturday was around 800 today it's 1400

deep vigil
#

no thats just on amazon with third party sellers

wind field
#

Idk I found another for 900

deep vigil
#

or on newegg

wind field
#

Amazon for 900ish 1500 on newegg

#

Sorry neweggs 1450ish

deep vigil
#

yes third party sellers

wind field
#

Yeah

#

Best buy has it to. Idk how much though

tacit hemlock
#

As I addressed earlier, it was oos on bestbuy, and please don't pay 900 for a 2080s

wind field
#

Most of them are the much

#

And I am not buying used garbage

long geyser
#

Get a used 2080Ti for 900-1000 rather then a new 2080S. Or just wait for 3000

#

Because there really isn't much sketchyness from used tbh if you pick the correct sellers and sites with good buyer protection

tropic falcon
#

is it worth it to buy an used i9 9900k for 250€?

#

It still has warranty and has not been overclocked etc.

tulip talon
#

Yep

tropic falcon
#

aight

hollow thorn
#

As long as your budget can fit a z390 board. @tropic falcon

tropic falcon
#

yup

leaden mist
#

is a i5 4690k a decent cpu?

static otter
#

@tropic falcon if you have a motherbord that suporst it then yes if not then no.

#

@tropic falcon also depends on the motherbord cost.

charred venture
#

@leaden mist it is :)), especially if u can overclock it

leaden mist
#

@charred venture awesome thank you so much!

warped scroll
#

Well, nowadays it’ll struggle, but on a budget., it’s not bad. @leaden mist

#

*itll struggle a little. Based on the game. Lots of games like using more than the 4 cores and threads that i5 has to offer

tacit hemlock
#

System isn't posting and motherboard has this yellow light on it but nothing in the manual that indicates what its purpose is. Any ideas?

#

Also, usbs are not getting power

#

Motherboard is a asus b450m-a

hollow thorn
#

weird

#

@tacit hemlock is it under the GPU? is that where the light is?

tacit hemlock
#

Its like right on the pcie x16 bracket

#

On the locking part, which is transparent

#

@hollow thorn

gritty meadow
#

@tacit hemlock what board?

tacit hemlock
#

Asus b450m-a

#

Don't know why I didnt see the ping

gritty meadow
#

@tacit hemlock you certain that is not a LED on the GPU?

tacit hemlock
#

I doubt it but I can check

gritty meadow
#

because from what i can see on the mainboard, there is nothing there (in that area)

trim dust
#

it does look like it’s coming from gpu

gritty meadow
#

the retention clip is transparent, so it is bouncing the light around.

tacit hemlock
#

Ah, that makes sense

#

I'm going to check now

gritty meadow
#

thank you :)

trim dust
#

the reflection looks like behind gpu

tacit hemlock
#

Its the mobo, ill send a pic

trim dust
#

ah

gritty meadow
#

@trim dust what you circled is the CPU retention for the cooler.

#

and a pic would be appreciated :)

#

i am quite curious

trim dust
#

thanks for clarification naed

tacit hemlock
trim dust
#

didn’t know that was a thing

tacit hemlock
#

Actually it says 6_1 led, my mistake

gritty meadow
#

@trim dust its because the m.2 is ABOVE the first pci-e slot

#

give me a moment @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
#

Its in such a awkward spot

#

Ok np

gritty meadow
#

found it @tacit hemlock

#

and you are very much allowed to apply your own head to desk right about now

tacit hemlock
#

Lol

gritty meadow
#

mind, i will be joining you

tacit hemlock
#

Wow

#

Amazing addition to the overall functionality of the board

gritty meadow
tacit hemlock
#

Lol

#

Ok

gritty meadow
#

just above the VR stuff

tacit hemlock
#

Wow, just saw, you have a good eye for even finding that tho

gritty meadow
#

its logical exclusion really

#

it being labelled as it was: as in, no debug mention or anything = most likely "just" ambient light

tacit hemlock
#

The funny thing is, it doesnt even look nice lol

gritty meadow
#

that light "just" is

tacit hemlock
#

Yep

#

So any other ideas on my issue then?

gritty meadow
#

its a part of the board. Nothing wrong with the board (because it lights up)

tacit hemlock
#

True

gritty meadow
#

as for the board not posting.

#

are you absolutely certain everything is plugged in where it is supposed to?

tacit hemlock
#

Yes, I am 100% certain

gritty meadow
#

okay, then pull everything out and do it again

#

one thing at a time.

#

Welcome to troubleshooting 101

tacit hemlock
#

Do what again exactly?

#

Just rebuild it?

gritty meadow
#

pull it apart.

#

Then try and boot it with "just" the cpu

tacit hemlock
#

Ah I see

gritty meadow
#

and then add in 1 stick of ram

#

etc etc

tacit hemlock
#

What should I expect to happen when there is only partial components tho

gritty meadow
#

it either works, or it doesnt

tacit hemlock
#

Yes, but how can I tell

gritty meadow
#

your board is not exactly the helpful kind (no debug leds)

tacit hemlock
#

Unfortunately

gritty meadow
#

re: how to tell: either you have a signal from the gpu, or you dont

tacit hemlock
#

Well, I might be able to save some headache if I give some backstory on these parts. They were all in another system that was functional, except for the motherboard. After some troubleshooting I determined that it had a faulty dimn slot. So now I have this one, and it's not booting at all.

#

so I would assume that the motherboard is the area of concern

gritty meadow
#

it could be a bunch of things really. But you are the one that has the physical access to it :)

tacit hemlock
#

Yay

#

Lol

gritty meadow
#

I am out for the night shortly, so i can only wish you best of luck :)

tacit hemlock
#

Alright, might get more stuff done tomorrow anyway. Although I'm still gonna mess with it after dinner

#

Thanks for the help

gritty meadow
#

best of luck, and you are very welcome :)

rapid bronze
#

Looking at the asrock matx mobo from newegg for my ryzen 5 3600 can I still overclock it with the 4 pin connector ?

#

Or should I look for an 8 pin board

#

ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

mighty sinew
rustic flame
#

Which is better for more of an overall use pc? Ryzen 7 3700x or intel i5 10600k. I want to do mostly gaming and also creative work from adobe software

viscid tapir
#

Intel Core i9-9900K Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz (5.0 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W

#

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core 3.5 GHz Socket AM4 105W 100-100000051WOF Desktop Processor

#

damn, this one is expensive

#

3950x

neat estuary
#

@rustic flame that’s a tough question. The i5 will give you better fps gaming but the 3700 is in a entire league of its own for productivity. The i5 doesn’t even come close in that regard. Between the two. Even for gaming I would take the 3700x simply because of the value. It won’t be more then 5% behind in gaming anyway

rich totem
#

Would a B550m Aorus pro need a bios update with a ryzen 5 3600

digital kernel
#

No

#

However, you might consider a cheaper b450 for the r5 3600

rich totem
#

Alright thanks for the advice!

naive pendant
#

Best CPUs both used/new for around 100 dollars

#

?

digital kernel
#

@naive pendant Any particular motherboard you need it to work with?

naive pendant
#

I wouldn’t mind any

#

I wanna build a new pc

#

Another*

digital kernel
#

What's your total budget?

naive pendant
#

550-600

digital kernel
#

Do you have any parts already?

naive pendant
#

Yeah

digital kernel
#

What specs?

naive pendant
#

EVGA 600 watt PSU 16 gb of ram and a 500gb ssd

#

Plus a case

digital kernel
#

What speed ram?

naive pendant
#

2666

digital kernel
#

DDR4?

#

Also, are the parts you already have included in that budget?

long geyser
#

What EVGA PSU as well?

naive pendant
#

Yeah ddr4

long geyser
#

Wattage means little in terms of quality. So does rating

naive pendant
#

80 plus

digital kernel
#

N1?

#

W1, sorry

naive pendant
#

I believe so

digital kernel
#

So not great, but it probably won't blow up

rapid bronze
#

This a good mobo for ryzen 5 3600? ASRock B450M Steel Legend AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

digital kernel
#

@rapid bronze b450 ds3h

naive pendant
#

what ever this one is

digital kernel
#

So is the 550-600 the budget you have left?

rapid bronze
#

Ds3h better ?

digital kernel
#

Not necessarily, but it's cheaper

#

Cheaper is good

long geyser
#

I would ideally save some budget for a new PSU tbh

naive pendant
#

160 dollars left I believe

digital kernel
#

So 160 left for CPU, motherboard, and GPU?

naive pendant
#

CPU and motherboard

digital kernel
#

What GPU do you have?

naive pendant
#

RX 580

digital kernel
#

Okay

#

So I will go with Hei and go with get a better PSU ASAP

naive pendant
#

Alright

digital kernel
#

I'll see what sort of CPU+mobo I can find. Is this USD?

naive pendant
#

Yep

digital kernel
#

Prolly gonna be an old gen intel

#

What games are you looking to play?

naive pendant
#

Mostly esport game but some triple aaa games

digital kernel
#

This probably will not run triple A games very well

#

There's just not a lot of budget here to work with

naive pendant
#

Well I guess I’ll add some more of money then I expected

digital kernel
#

How much more can you add

naive pendant
#

60

digital kernel
#

So up to 200-220?

naive pendant
#

Yeah

digital kernel
#

That I can do

#

This will perform decently

#

First thing to upgrade is PSU, then ram

#

213.02

naive pendant
#

Alright

digital kernel
#

Triple A will probably still have to be on low settings, but they'll run

naive pendant
#

Got it

#

My RX 580 gonna get hoed but oh well

digital kernel
#

Pretty much

#

That is the job of a GPU after all

grand patrol
#

hi hi

#

is a z490 good mobo ?

hollow thorn
#

Need details

dry horizon
#

Much vague

grand patrol
#

just in general

#

z490 e asus

hollow thorn
#

Z490 is a chipset

#

There's like 200 boards on z490

grand patrol
#

omfg

#

idek anymore

#

brb

#

ok

hollow thorn
#

Z490 e is just expensive

grand patrol
#

give me a recommendation on a z490

#

any z490

#

that is good

#

and has 6 slots of ram if possible

hollow thorn
#

I'll check but should be around 200$

And why

grand patrol
#

preparing for a new pc buil

#

d

#

and my cousins say z490 good get it

hollow thorn
#

Because it's impossible lol

grand patrol
#

oh

#

k 4 slots if fine

hollow thorn
#

Consumer platforms only have 4 slots

#

It's HEDT where you get 8 slots

grand patrol
#

x58 asus unique ig

hollow thorn
#

Ye

grand patrol
#

ok

#

z490 recommendation pls

#

going for a white look too

hollow thorn
#

You care about OCing or USB ports or

grand patrol
#

ocing ??

hollow thorn
#

Overclocking

grand patrol
#

oh

#

hmm

#

ig both

#

lol

#

more or less of both is fine

#

as long as the usb ports are 4+

#

or just 4

hollow thorn
#

Had to check pricing, but MSI Z490 tomahawk, good features, great VRMs, good price

#

6 rear USB headers.

grand patrol
#

ooh

#

ty

#

nvm 6 usb is too much

hollow thorn
#

Too much???

grand patrol
#

i realized that they're 2 in the front

#

so 4 usb is fine

#

and i would prefer a like white look to it if possible

hollow thorn
#

There's only 2 boards with white, Asus z490-p and the vision d

grand patrol
#

ok let me check those out

#

thank for your help

hollow thorn
#

In my memory that I remember

mild jackal
#

dual lan is Chef_Kiss

grand patrol
#

vision g looks nice

#

but idk how much usb slots there are

hollow thorn
#

Forky not many people need that tho

mild jackal
hollow thorn
#

Tomahawk is just amazing value for the board

mild jackal
hollow thorn
#

Z490 b450 x570

eternal helm
#

The tomahawk is going for 125 rn

grand patrol
#

is it good for cod ?

eternal helm
#

The tomahawk?

grand patrol
#

yuh

eternal helm
#

Works fine

#

Just a mobo

#

Won't have any extra special stuff but works fine

grand patrol
#

i heard mobo effects game play

dry horizon
grand patrol
#

yuh

eternal helm
#

Not really

grand patrol
#

is asrock a good brand ?

hollow thorn
#

Model matters much more than brand

grand patrol
#

oh

#

i see

#

is this good ?

eternal helm
#

Only brand that is better than the other is ...

#

AMD vs intel

#

Amd is much better

hollow thorn
#

Wait wait wait

#

@grand patrol you want Intel or AMD

eternal helm
#

I'm guessing AMD

#

With a b450

grand patrol
#

for what

eternal helm
#

For your platform

hollow thorn
#

They were asking for z490 boards lol

eternal helm
#

Like cpu

grand patrol
#

oh

eternal helm
#

Oh ok lol

hollow thorn
#

Yes what CPU do you want

grand patrol
#

im getting a i9 10th core

#

wait wat

hollow thorn
#

Then you need z490

grand patrol
#

i9 10th gen

hollow thorn
#

B450 is for AMD

eternal helm
#

No b450

#

No b550 or x570 either

grand patrol
#

wat

#

so which one for the i9 ?

eternal helm
#

Those are for amd

hollow thorn
#

Z490

eternal helm
#

And z490

grand patrol
#

ok

#

y'all smort

hollow thorn
#

Whenever you look at motherboard look for the socket

#

Lga1200=10th gen Intel

#

Am4 = the last 3 generations of AMD

grand patrol
#

what's lga?

hollow thorn
#

Smth grid array I forgot

eternal helm
#

Intel's socket

#

For the mobo

grand patrol
#

ok

hollow thorn
#

It's how the pins on the motherboard are

#

1200 pins

grand patrol
#

is a z490 a good ?

eternal helm
#

Yes

hollow thorn
#

MSI?

#

Or Asus

grand patrol
#

asus

hollow thorn
#

Specs look fine, anyways if you want detailed motherboard breakdowns and stuff look for buildzoid on YouTube

#

The channel is "actually hardcore overclocking"

grand patrol
#

ok

#

im getting unlocked btw

#

don't know if it'll make a differbce in the mobo

hollow thorn
#

Nope

#

It doesn't make sense to get anything other than z490 for a 10900k

grand patrol
#

lol

eternal helm
#

Not unless you get mega cheapo Mobo that doesn't support oc'ing

grand patrol
#

holy cow

#

no

#

i change my mind

hollow thorn
#

When the CPU is 500$ why try to skim off 40$ from the motherboard price

#

?

grand patrol
#

not getting a i9 10th gen

eternal helm
#

Why?

grand patrol
#

not working my ass off for that

hollow thorn
#

What's your budget

grand patrol
#

1000

#

under

hollow thorn
#

Prob should've started off with that sorry

eternal helm
#

AMD

hollow thorn
#

That's AMD territory

#

Inte is for like 2000$ splurge builds

grand patrol
#

yea

#

i just read that online

eternal helm
#

If you aren't getting a 2080 super, amd is the way to go

grand patrol
#

and checked the price

#

fricking 500 dollars

#

that's like what 3 months of work at mcdonalds

hollow thorn
#

Make a 3600+2060s/5700xt part list time

grand patrol
#

?

eternal helm
#

Could definitely fit a r5 3600 and 2060 super or 5700xt in

#

Lol

hollow thorn
#

Ryzen 5 3600

eternal helm
#

We had the same idea

hollow thorn
#

And Nvidia RTX2060 super or AMD Rx5700xt

eternal helm
#

The cpu would be like 165

hollow thorn
#

That's what you fit in 1000$ budget

eternal helm
#

And GPU around 400

grand patrol
#

brb gonna chec k the price for the 2060

eternal helm
#

Check for 2060 super

hollow thorn
#

Work with parts for a while and you'll end up with the same parts to reccomend

eternal helm
#

Not plain 2060

grand patrol
#

should i get the mini ?

#

wait no

#

that's dumb

#

why did u say that

#

when u said super

eternal helm
#

For Mobo?

grand patrol
#

🤦‍♂️

#

gpu

eternal helm
#

There is no mini

#

Is there?

hollow thorn
#

Prob talking about zotac mini

#

Those are usually cheap

grand patrol
#

too many bransd

#

which brand should i get

eternal helm
#

Don't worry about brand

hollow thorn
#

Ignore brands for GPUs

#

It doesn't matter

#

Just go for looks

grand patrol
#

so i should get the cheapest brand for my gpu ?

hollow thorn
#

Hehe

grand patrol
#

i mean cheapest gpu thing i can find

eternal helm
#

Find one that has good cooling too

#

If you can

hollow thorn
#

As long as the cooler look decent for a RTX 2060 super

#

It works

grand patrol
#

how many gbs ?

hollow thorn
#

2060 super doesn't run that hot

#

All 2060 super have 8gb vram

eternal helm
#

My GPU does lol

hollow thorn
#

All of em

grand patrol
#

omfg

#

this pc gonna cost prob abt 1-2 years of work

#

sigh

hollow thorn
#

5700xt is hot

grand patrol
#

i should start selling things

eternal helm
#

Same price as 2060s

hollow thorn
#

2060s isn't as hot

eternal helm
#

Sometimes cheaper

hollow thorn
#

@grand patrol thought you had a 1000$ budget?

#

The parts we listed would go under 1000$

eternal helm
#

Wanna prob stick around 1k

hollow thorn
#

With a few corners cut

grand patrol
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ik ik

eternal helm
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What games do you wanna play on it?

grand patrol
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im working to that budget u see

hollow thorn
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Here's the thing

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In a year there's new parts

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So you gotta remake the list in a year

grand patrol
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..

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i didn't think of that

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oh well

dry horizon
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Or even six months

grand patrol
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alr

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i'll just save up for now ig

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and upgrade gradually

eternal helm
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Release date of 300 series on the 31st

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*3000

grand patrol
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do we know the price ?

eternal helm
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Nope

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Not yet

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Maybe in the 31st

grand patrol
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ok ok

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welp ty for ur help

eternal helm
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Np

grand patrol
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srrsly didn't think abt the new stuff

eternal helm
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Same

long geyser
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announcement is on the 31, not release date

eternal helm
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That's what I mean

grand patrol
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cya

eternal helm
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Won't the release date be accounted?

long geyser
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well, technically release date will be known on 31st I guess

eternal helm
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That's what I was trying to say

long geyser
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but you can also take it as product launch on 31st, so should clear that up in case of confusion

eternal helm
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Yup

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It's 3:30

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Lol

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Not thinking straight

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Alr GN all

long geyser
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gamers nexus to you too

eternal helm
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Lol

rustic flame
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Thank you very much @neat estuary

tacit hemlock
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Well, I tried as many things as I could think of, and I have not been able to get the pc to post. I have no power whatsoever coming from any of my io ports. I guess I need to assume that the motherboard is shot @gritty meadow