cpus-mobo-and-memory

[scarlet basin]

I have a white mobo and black case

[digital kernel]

Trident

The have pretty white ram

[scarlet basin]

I'm doing a custom loop

Right but will white loook good

[digital kernel]

Also some that fades from white to black

[scarlet basin]

What abt trident bro

Neo*

[digital kernel]

These?

[scarlet basin]

Yea I'll look into that

Thanks!

[coarse sonnet]

Is amd or intel the way to go rn

[charred venture]

trident z royal

also amd in many cases, intel in specific situations

[rich pebble]

I need help i wanna get extra ram for my acer nitro 5 laptop but i dont know what to get

[gritty patio]

Laptop ram

Yw🙈🙈🥰🥰

[mild jackal]

Run userbenchmark to see what you have now

If you have space, buy the same kit

[polar fern]

Resetting my pc also doesn’t make me lose copy of Windows right?

[midnight pollen]

as long as it is linked to your microsoft account it should be fine

[digital kernel]

@coarse sonnet It depends on how much money you have to spend and what you're trying to do

[remote acorn]

Ryzen 3 3300X + 16GB Corsair ram + ASRock B450M PRO4. i have 60 euro's left to spend, what do you recommend ? im thinking of a 250gb m.2 for windows and some games

[arctic oak]

yo someone throw me their old b450 my a320 bites 💀

[naive pendant]

A guy on here suggested a cpu or i could get a better motherboard and get the cpu i wanted. I just wanted to say: I checked my motherboard's temp. IT WAS 103 DEGREES CELCIUS.

[digital kernel]

@naive pendant What motherboard?

[naive pendant]

wait when i can load up speccy i will write the mb in her

[digital kernel]

You can send a link, just remove the https from the front

[stable furnace]

hi hi what's a great budget motherboard for ryzen 5 3600 processor? Also since I dont have any processors onhand to update bios I'm hoping for one that would work as soon as its built.

[winged verge]

asrock b450 will do the job
@stable furnace

[cunning pumice]

B450M Pro4 @stable furnace

[warped scroll]

ASRock gang

[charred venture]

why the m variant

[mild jackal]

[charred venture]

atx boards look better in atx cases

:):

[warped scroll]

Micro ATX boards in ATX cases still look fine

[lethal glacier]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119140?&quicklink=true

Is this a good mobo?

[charred venture]

kinda overpriced

[warped scroll]

Perhaps

[devout pond]

So u wanna know how u don’t drown in debt

[warped scroll]

Intel still doesn’t support PCIe Gen 4 so a gen4 NVMe shouldn’t go up to gen 4 speeds

Hmm

I mean you can get a gen 4, and if it doesn’t support gen 4 speeds it’ll just stick to gen 3 speeds

Gen4 isn’t a big step up in load times compared to previous generations

Is there a reason you need gen 4?

Well then get it. If it just runs at gen 3 speeds no harm no foul

Just won’t be getting that very very slight performance difference

[long geyser]

Evo Plus is overpriced

[warped scroll]

Definitely

[sharp nova]

Just don't do like I ended up.
My mobo is delayed due to shipping. So I am running a 5700XT on PCIe 2.0. With a FX CPU.
Don't be like me. Order before pandemic.

[long geyser]

Lot of the time you can almost get 2x the storage compared to a 970 drive with same perf

[remote acorn]

wait is the asrock b450m pro4 ryzen 3000 ready?

[warped scroll]

@remote acorn it should be

[long geyser]

Like what is the amount of storage and price? 1tb for $200?

[remote acorn]

i cant find it on their b450m pro4 page

[warped scroll]

I’ve used the board before. It comes with the “Ryzen 3000 ready” thing on it

And honestly it’s kinda difficult to find a b450 board that doesnt support 3000 series

[remote acorn]

and is it worth spending 10 euros more for the b450m steel legend?

[warped scroll]

If you want the fancy lights

I have the B450M steel legend and it’s great

[remote acorn]

then ill get that board with a ryzen 5 3600 or a ryzen 3 3300X if the cost is low enough to be worth it for me an a hyper 212

currently pre orders for ryzen 3 3300X are 25 euros cheaper than a 5 3600

and i dont know if saving 25 euros is worth it

[warped scroll]

I’d say just stick with the stock coolers

Hyper 212 is a little bit of a waste imo if you have a perfectly good stock cooler

[remote acorn]

is the stock cooler that good?

[warped scroll]

It’s good enough. Keeps it nice and cool and it’s pretty quiet

[remote acorn]

nice

im not going to oc the cpu

[warped scroll]

Yep so stock cooler will work great for you

[remote acorn]

that will save me 35 euro's, maybe a b550 if there are options around 120 euros

[warped scroll]

Nah stick with B450. B450s still good

Just save yourself some money lol

[remote acorn]

yeah

the steel legend will do

and corsair 2x8 3200mhz ram

haha white corsair vengeance at the same speed is 16 euros more

[warped scroll]

It happens

[remote acorn]

cant find anything that says that the steel legend/pro4 are 3000 ready out of the box but i did find the MSI B450M Mortar Max

and the 'update bios and install cpu' service at our local pc store is as expensive as getting the mortar max

*updating bios on the steel legend

[warped scroll]

That’s wack

I mean I guess you could play it super safe if you wanted

[remote acorn]

i like my sexual intercourse how i like my motherboard compatibility

[warped scroll]

Uh

[remote acorn]

sorry

only thing i need after this is a good gpu and a non dented case

thinking 1650 super or 1660 super

[warped scroll]

Good choices

[remote acorn]

only playing 1080p

[warped scroll]

Yeah

1080p gang

[remote acorn]

kinda mad at myself tho that i broke my 144hz monitor

but 60 will do when you currently have a 1050 ti

[warped scroll]

Aw man I’d be mad too

If I broke my 165Hz monitor I’d do unspeakable things

[remote acorn]

got it on sale too

180 euro for a 24 inch curved 144hz

[warped scroll]

Smhmh

I got mine refurb for $140

[remote acorn]

cheap chinese stuff

mine was an aox

aoc*

[warped scroll]

Ah

Mines Acer

[remote acorn]

maybe get a good 1440p when black friday starts

and a used 2060 or 1660 super

but thats a long way to go for me

[warped scroll]

Getting a used card of that performance might be a little sketchy

[remote acorn]

or maybe a used 1070 or 1080

[warped scroll]

Still risky getting one of those higher end cards used

[remote acorn]

yeah

true

but 1070 ti for 280 euros

from a seller who has high 'karma'

[warped scroll]

Mmmm

[remote acorn]

pfff

lets get the ryzen 5 3600 with mobo and ram first

and save up for a gpu

but i see you have a ryzen 13 5870XT

how much cores, like 512?

and 1024 threads

[warped scroll]

Close

Just 256 cores

But we found out how to get 3 threads to a core

So 768 threads

[split copper]

I woke up in the wrong dimension

[long geyser]

didnt Linus review a CPU with quad threading per core?

[warped scroll]

Idk

[split copper]

How would that be possible

Imagine a single core, 4 thread CPU

[warped scroll]

Great for casual computing desktops

Like office desktops

Actually probably not still

[remote acorn]

Prob runs at 7.6b ghz boost

[warped scroll]

Ryzen 3955X with 16 cores and 64 threads

[remote acorn]

Intel pentium g4560 with 2 cores and 8 threads

[warped scroll]

Yes of course

Taking budget CPUs to the next level

[remote acorn]

Ryzen 5 with 6c and 24 threads

Wow

Gimme

[warped scroll]

That’d be so gangsta

[remote acorn]

Foreshadowing ryzen 4000?

[split copper]

And then Core i5-11500 with 6 cores and 3 threads

[remote acorn]

Haha

1.5 threads

[warped scroll]

Hypercoring

[bronze summit]

I WANT RYZEN 9 CPU

[remote acorn]

I want SLI 2080s with i9 9900k

[warped scroll]

I want a gtx 1660 super

[remote acorn]

But I'm rocking a pentium plus 1050ti

[warped scroll]

I’m gonna upgrade to 1660s once 3000 series comes out

I’m rocking a Ryzen 13 plus RTX 8900s

[supple monolith]

I want threadripper with a single 3080ti personally

[remote acorn]

That's what I'm going to do

[supple monolith]

Gotta have that vertical mount

[remote acorn]

Wait til 3000

[warped scroll]

But in all reality I’m rocking Ryzen 1600 af and RX 570 rn

[remote acorn]

That's still okay for now

[warped scroll]

Yeah but I got a 165Hz monitor and am barely reaching that in esports games

And I want better FPS in Warzone

60 FPS in medium/high just doesn’t cut it for me

[remote acorn]

Understandable

[warped scroll]

But I’m holding out to wait so prices can drop

[remote acorn]

I want near max settings on bl3 at 100~fps at 1080p

[warped scroll]

And I’ve only had this 570 for like 4-5 months which is very little

Maybe less

[remote acorn]

So a 1660 super should the trick for both of Us

[warped scroll]

Definitely

I’d upgrade CPU for you first tho

Your CPU will bottleneck a 1660s

[remote acorn]

Yeah

Gpu at end of the year

Cpumoboram next month

[warped scroll]

Once 3000 series comes out

And maybe once I sell one or two more PCs

[remote acorn]

I have enough for both rn but Im saving for driving license atm, and I put some money aside evertly month for other things

[warped scroll]

I can’t wait til I can drive

I’m so clooose

[remote acorn]

Nice, how Many lessons left?

[warped scroll]

Nah close age-wise

[remote acorn]

Here in the Netherlands you can start lessons at age 16

But you have to redo the exam at 18

[warped scroll]

Hm

mmmm

[remote acorn]

I'm 17 and with my excellent math I think I will have my license in February

Near my birthday

[warped scroll]

You’re so good at math

Perhaps better than me

[remote acorn]

Getting a license will nearly double my current wage

So that's more important atm

[warped scroll]

Fo sho

[remote acorn]

Prob will work as a delivery guy as soon as I get it

[warped scroll]

Delivering what tho

Pizza?

Packages?

The possibilities are endless

[remote acorn]

Packages

[warped scroll]

For what company tho

[remote acorn]

A company that only delivers between 7 and 10

Like

That company hires other company's to drive for them

It's called budbee

[warped scroll]

Never heard of them

But I’m also American so

[remote acorn]

Yeah its a Swedish company

[acoustic violet]

For anyone with an asus mobo im trying to tell which is which of my USBs (ROG Hero VIII), I have not been able to find anything that differentiates between the red and the blue ports

[tacit hemlock]

On the rear io panel?

[acoustic violet]

yes

[tacit hemlock]

Manual should say

[warped scroll]

[acoustic violet]

the manual was not specific it had a top down view

[warped scroll]

Should have a rear IO view as well

[tacit hemlock]

According to their website, the 8 red ones are usb 3.2 gen 2

Then rest are gen 1

3.2 gen 1 to be specific

[acoustic violet]

Alright thanks 👍

[tacit hemlock]

[velvet ferry]

what are some good cheap mobos

[tacit hemlock]

Depends on the chipset

[split copper]

And model :>

[devout moth]

benjals#8269 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[spare ferry]

i have rotten f'ing luck

my Z490 Pro AX replacement's bottom M.2 slot also doesn't work

[peak sail]

anyone here have trouble with hyper x memory modules?

[neat estuary]

@spare ferry some motherboards they are disabled if you use the nearby pcis slot etc. see the manual

[peak sail]

no I think its more a dimm or mobo defect

it wouldnt be the 1st time a hyper x module failed

but the mobo has it own vrm defects

[remote acorn]

What's recommended for rzyen 5 3600, currently have a 450 Watt PSU

[tacit hemlock]

Are you asking for a psu recommendation or other components?

[warped scroll]

@remote acorn a Ryzen 3600 can run off of a lot. It depends on your graphics card. 450w is good for an RX 570 or a 1650 super or even 1660 super paired with your 3600

[lethal glacier]

Asus Prime B450-PLUS

Is this a decent mobo for a 7 3700x and 2070 super for 109.99 or should I get the b450 tomahawk max for 123.99?

[pearl crow]

where are you finding the b450 tomahawk for $124?!!?

ah newegg

msi b450 tomahawk vs msi x470 gaming plus?

[meager pecan]

does it bother anyone else

when the M.2 heatsinks are just

huge

I've never owned a board with an included heatsink

but is the whole damn thing supposed to come off?

[warped scroll]

Those double as chipset heat sinks

[pearl crow]

asrock is compensating for their poor vrms

[meager pecan]

smh

I'd rather have the m.2 bit break off

and the rest be stuck

this offends my personal sensibilities for some reason

[warped scroll]

Dude but those boards looks so hot 🥵

[meager pecan]

B550 Taichi though

okay but you gotta admit

[warped scroll]

Ooooooh

[meager pecan]

the original X370 Taichi

[warped scroll]

OOOOH

[meager pecan]

was actually black and white

[warped scroll]

Yeah

[meager pecan]

now this is just RGB steampunk gears

[warped scroll]

I remember

[meager pecan]

lolololol

[warped scroll]

Yeah they changed it quite a bit

Still looks mad gangsta tho

[meager pecan]

this is one of those B550 boards some rando on reddit would rant about

for having a chipset fan

...

wait is that the chipset

[warped scroll]

Yes

[meager pecan]

okay good

I was thinking for a moment, "What the hell? An M.2 drive gets its own fan now?!?"

[warped scroll]

Usually on itx boards the M.2 is in the back

[meager pecan]

are they?

feel like I've seen a lot of them with it on front

[warped scroll]

Maybe lower end ones without much chipset cooling

Maybe

[spare ferry]

@neat estuary i not only read the manual i contacted customer support and the bottom M.2 slot should work. the exact same nvme ssd will boot on the middle slot, but not the lower one.

[neat estuary]

I c. I was throwing it out their because some do weird configurations like that

[spare ferry]

it pisses me off that customer support recommended a replacement and ran into the same exact problem again

[warped scroll]

Chill out my man

Just bad luck

I’ve had similar happen to me

Ordered a motherboard, was broken, ordered a replacement, was also broken

[spare ferry]

two in a row? i think that's their problem

[warped scroll]

It could be

But chances are it’s just luck I guess

[spare ferry]

probably never buying aorus again

[warped scroll]

Sometimes these things happen. If it happens again, just don’t but another one

Yeah I don’t like Giga personally

Especially their mobos

[spare ferry]

msi and asus seem to make the best

have had zero issues with theirs

[warped scroll]

I’m an ASRock fanboy personally

[spare ferry]

i mean, the mb works in every other way

just not the 3rd m.2 slot

which is disappointing i intended on using all 3

and both didn't work in the exact same way? lol sounds like a manufacturing issue

and if i were to never upgrade to 11th gen intel, that would mean that only 1 out of 3 m.2 slots would work which is unacceptable

[eager burrow]

Hello! so i wanna buy an ASrock b450m pro4 motherboard, but im not sure if it will support my ryzen 3 3100 processor straight out of the box. Also, the board on newegg's website is called " ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory B450" and i am not sure what promontory means

can anyone help me?

[warped scroll]

@eager burrow it should support your 3100 out of the box. If not, you can literally contact AMD and they’ll send you a CPU to update your BIOS with

[eager burrow]

oh! thank you so :DDD

[warped scroll]

Yep no problem

Have a good day

[eager burrow]

you too :>

[eternal spoke]

is it worth paying $130 for a Ryzen 5 1600 rn or no

[digital kernel]

Is it the 1600af or no?

[eternal spoke]

yes i believe so

YD1600BBAFBOX right?

[warped scroll]

$130 is a little overpriced

I’d pay $100

Unless you’re talking about CAD

[eternal spoke]

CAD?

[split copper]

Canadian Dollars

[eternal spoke]

oh its 122 USD

its kind pricey but thats the lowest i can find

[warped scroll]

I’d wait

Wait until prices drop

[eternal spoke]

i havent been paying attention to the price history

is it trending down or up

[warped scroll]

Prices are so high rn

There’s a shortage of like... everything

RAM is like the only thing staying normal

[eternal spoke]

yeah

i want to get everything in by august if i can

but idk how the market is going rn

[warped scroll]

The entire market is garbage

[eternal spoke]

yeah

what sites do you use

cuz im kind of new

[supple monolith]

ebay and amazon are the best w/ buyer protection

Newegg is trustworthy

[eternal spoke]

ok cool thanks

[supple monolith]

Wish is a scam 🙂

[split copper]

Buy from Newegg though, not the weird sellers they have on their marketplace

Something like Joe's Market from China selling a 70 USD part for over 300 dollars

[supple monolith]

3rd party on amazon and ebay are fine tho

Even if they are sketch ones from china, buyer protection

just don't overpay

[split copper]

3rd party on Amazon aren't as bad from what I can tell, but still not good price

[supple monolith]

Depends. That's a generalization. You have your price gougers, but you also have good sellers

[split copper]

Yep

When things don't go back to normal, then things won't come back in stock, and you won't be able to buy them

[somber mica]

anyone know when more motherboards might be in stock? every single one i look at is out of stock

[pearl crow]

they will be in stock soon^tm

[main pulsar]

if the listing says backordered, then you wont be able to get one for a few weeks at the earliest

[somber mica]

i backordered one 3 weeks ago and it still hasn't shipped :/

[main pulsar]

some of them might say something like more on the way

yeah, if something is backordered, it means the supplier has already sold out of the inventory they havent even recieved yet

which means you probably wont get a board for a while if thats the case

what board did you order?

did you get a tracking number yet or no

[somber mica]

Gigabyte B450m Ds3h WiFi

no i don't think i got a tracking number

[main pulsar]

on newegg?

[somber mica]

yes

[main pulsar]

well, its oos on wegg rn, so they arent accepting any more orders for this board, and probably wont be selling this board for a while now, because usually they would let you back order it

so either they dont actually have a board for you yet, and made a mistake allowing you to backorder one, or they have your board on hand, but they are having some sort of issue

regardless, DM NeweggService about it

well, DM them tomorrow, because its sunday

or do it today and just wait till tomorrow idk

[somber mica]

is NeweggService on discord?

[main pulsar]

yes

@glad socket

[somber mica]

alright, thank you

[midnight pollen]

they are open during business hours pacific time

[split copper]

California gang

[gritty patio]

Texas gang

[split copper]

[inner root]

Hey all. For a Ryzen 7 3700x, I have a choice between an ASRock x570 Extreme 4 and an ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PLUS. Your thoughts?

Specifically, an ASRock x570 that's on backorder, or an ASUS B550-PLUS that's in stock now?

[digital kernel]

B550 should work

[inner root]

Thanks

[remote acorn]

Is it illegal to combine 2 different ram sets

[supple monolith]

It's best to have a matching set, but you can do it

[inner root]

Don't mix speeds, though

So don't have 2 3600 mHz sticks and 2 3200 mHz sticks.

[supple monolith]

If you can I would get the same brand

at the same speed and latency

[remote acorn]

Vengeance 2x8 3200 MHz and crucial 2x4 2666 mhz

So no mix

[inner root]

No matching, you mean.

I'd just go with the 2x8

[remote acorn]

Yeah friends sayd it didn't matter

[digital kernel]

No mix

You'll have to underclock the fast ram

[inner root]

If you add it all in, they'll all run at 2666 MHz

[remote acorn]

And you don't need 24 gb of ram for games like gta and borderlands 3 right?

[inner root]

Best to have 16 gb at 3200 than 24 at 2666

[digital kernel]

I think both of those can actually get away with 12

[gritty patio]

morning everyone

i have a question about ryzen master

i saw a video where he undervolted and pulled out more performance

is this true?

[supple monolith]

If cooling is a bottleneck, undervolting can help

[gritty patio]

ok thx

@supple monolith could i run just 3.6 with a 1.25V??

[supple monolith]

I actually have yet to over/underclock any cpu. IDK... I'd ask in #overclocking

[gritty patio]

ok thxc

[frail flame]

Looking for CPU/motherboard help

[mild jackal]

same

[lethal glacier]

@frail flame what are you wondering?

[frail flame]

I have a Dell Inspiron 3847 that is about 5 years old. It is barely able to run some of the newer games I play (Farcry 5, DCS World, etc..). I have heard that I can upgrade my CPU/motherboard without having to reinstall Win10. Can you confirm that?

[warped scroll]

Not motherboard, but possibly CPU

The reason you can barely run games is becuase you need a better graphics card

[lethal glacier]

Windows 10 is kept on a storage device so I don’t see why you would have to reinstall it

What cpu and gpu do you have?

[frail flame]

I am running the best I can with the motherboard ... which is NVIDIA GeForce GT730/

[warped scroll]

You can probably run a GTX 1050 ti off it

[frail flame]

Intell i5-4460 cpu @3.20gnz

[warped scroll]

GT 730 is not built for gaming

[frail flame]

ghz

[warped scroll]

Your CPU is decent. GPU is what's holding you back

[lethal glacier]

New motherboard and gpu

[warped scroll]

A CPU upgrade won't do you any good

Get a GTX 1050, 1050 ti, or 1650

they all should work fine

[remote acorn]

Isnt it better to invest in a gaming pc you can upgrade as you go?

[warped scroll]

or an RX 460

[lethal glacier]

Yes

[frail flame]

If I remember correctly when I did this updated graphics card over a year ago .... the GT730 was the largest I could go that fits my motherboard. I could be remembering that wrong

[warped scroll]

DM me a pic of your motherboard and power supply please

[frail flame]

ok ... that'll take a little bit of time to provide .... I may have a picture from before. Lemme look.

Sorry. I do not already have a picture of the motherboard. Is there a way to find it in the system information?

[warped scroll]

Can you just popp the side panel off and take a pic of the inside?

[frail flame]

it's sort of wedged under my desk. I'm trying

[warped scroll]

alright take your time

@frail flame can you send me a pic of the power supply label too?

[vernal matrix]

one of my friends is trying to change their ram speed and they changed it in bios but its not changing in task manager any reason why this it ?
stuck at 2133 when he has 3200 mhz

[naive pendant]

Will this drive last me a while? https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16822234372

[gritty patio]

it should

@vernal matrix ease into it

some ram require some time to run at the advertised speed

just have him experiment with it a little bit

mine would only stay at 3000 but it was rated for 3200

then after running 3000 for a while it bumped it up to 3200 and it worked

[lime mural]

This is a potentially stupid question, but can anybody please confirm that the 4 pin connector next to the 8 pin CPU power connector on the Maximus XII hero is actually optional as the online manual suggests? I'm pretty confident that it is, but it just seems a little odd. Cheers.

[long geyser]

it is optional. 8 pins can push 300w by ATX spec and more like 400w - 500w before it melts

[digital kernel]

What CPU are you running?

[long geyser]

pretty hard to push that much wattage with basic OC, even on high end Intel

[lime mural]

Cool, thanks a lot. I was planning for an i9-10900K or KF at some point in the following months once the RTX 30 series GPUs are released, and having only built one PC previously, using the Maximus IX Hero in which there's only an 8 pin CPU power connector, it just seemed odd to me that I wouldn't have to use the additional 4 pin considering that I don't see any build in that case in which it would be used, if that makes sense.

[upbeat lichen]

question re: working with an x58 system. got my x5675 installed and booted, but windows is locking it to 1.6ghz, no matter what and i have next to no familiarity with that generation of cpu/bios to understand what to do to fix it

also, it's locking out 4GB of ram as 'hardware reserved' and nothing i change in the bios or windows will free it

the bios and windows both report it as an x5675 with a base clock of 3.06ghz, but actual speed wise, it won't go beyond 1.59

[solemn knoll]

Hi all, does anybody have experience with the Asrock Rack E3C242D4U and 9th gen i3 CPUs? Not on the validated CPU list, but that list is outdated anyway

[lethal glacier]

Are the EVGA 2070 supers good?

[mild jackal]

yes

[spare ferry]

they're ok

i have a xc gaming 2070 super

it runs a bit warm and has coil whine. fairly common according to user reviews

idk how the thicker heatsink models do temperature wise, but mine runs a good 5-10C warmer than other gpus when i compared them to benchmark videos

a positive is that the fans are not too loud

[remote acorn]

Help

New cpu mobo ram powers on but no screen

Nvm got it

What

On idle 92 celcius

[ornate coyote]

thermal paste correctly on ?

[remote acorn]

New stock cooler

Already on there

[ornate coyote]

fan screwed on all the way ?

[remote acorn]

Yup

I have some thermal paste

Should I put on more

[ornate coyote]

since its new, it should be enough

um, maybe temps are showing wrong ? try restarting your computer and look at the temps

[remote acorn]

Will try

Whenever I start the pc one of the fans starts spinning like crazy for a second

No

Still 92 degrees

[ornate coyote]

you could try flipping the fan around

but look at task manager real quick

see what is using the cpu the most

[remote acorn]

It has troubles loading it

[ornate coyote]

yeah. So jus try switching the fan around

[remote acorn]

Ok

[ornate coyote]

and when screwing it in, screw it in diagonal

like when you do the left one, do the one across from it

[remote acorn]

Too little?

[neat estuary]

Usually when I pull mine off it’s smooth layer. Not these spider webs

Reapply.

[ornate coyote]

you mustve installed the fan wrong, that has to be the reason why your temps are high

^^

[neat estuary]

Make a X if your not certain how big a pee it needs

[remote acorn]

@ornate coyote i installed it like that the first time

[ornate coyote]

alr, i was jus making sure lol

[remote acorn]

And it was supposed to be a 1600 AF but it says 14nm

Still 92 degrees

Installed it correctly

And even added a little extra thermal paste

?

Anyone knows what auxtin0 means?

Whenever I start a game it gets past 100

Maybe the cpu is broken?

[mild jackal]

Probably a measurement offset error. If it's fluctuating slowly, probably vrm temp.

[cunning epoch]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-PRO-LGA1151-Gigabit-Motherboard/dp/B07J6Z9KJ2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=MSI-PRO-LGA1151-Gigabit-Motherboard&qid=1593532191&sr=8-1 is this a decent mobo?

[remote acorn]

Why would my vrm temp be so high?

[mild jackal]

Probably a measurement offset error.

[remote acorn]

Maybe reinstall spec y

Speccy*

[mild jackal]

That looks like speedfan to me

Don't use speccy

Go with hwinfo64

[remote acorn]

Where can I see Temps?

I'm confused

[cunning epoch]

right there

[remote acorn]

All 3 programs say different things

Hmm

[ornate coyote]

you might be good then

[cunning epoch]

yeah

if it gets too hot, windows should complain

[remote acorn]

Alright

Time to try it oit

[cunning epoch]

i use hwmonitor

is it an amd or intel

nvm

just saw the ryzen lmao

[ornate coyote]

jus play a game and if your window doesn’t crash, then your good lol

[cunning epoch]

just run like cpu burner

built into furmark

[remote acorn]

I'll try borderlands 3

[mild jackal]

hwmonitor is often inaccurate

[cunning epoch]

if it was intel i would suggest extreme tuning utility

[mild jackal]

[remote acorn]

It loads faster

Cpu runs at 57 degrees

Everything seems fine

And instead of playing on the lowest of low I'm not getting framedrops at medium settings

Thanks for the help, I almost returned the cpu haha

[cunning epoch]

a small question from me, my cpu (i5-9600kf) is supposed to be running at 4.6ghz but is running at 4.3ghz. Is this a cpu or a mobo problem? Temps are perfect tho.

[long geyser]

Base is 3.7 and max single core boost is 4.6

All core boost is probs 4.3

[cunning epoch]

according to intel, boost is supposed to be at 4.6. maybe my h310 chipset is holding it back

[long geyser]

Yes, single core boost is 4.6 but not all core boost. So only if you're stress testing on one core you'll see 4.6

[deep vigil]

^

@cunning epoch single core and multi core boost are different

And hei is correct 4.3 is the all core boost

[cunning epoch]

Ah

Well I need a new mobo anyways so eh

Already ordered a bunch of stuff

[deep vigil]

@cunning epoch there is no need for a new mobo

if you wanted a new mobo just get amd there is no upgradibilty with intel

[wind field]

Ok so I have a question i am going with a cooler that might inter fear with ram Clarence so should I put the max memory in my mb because I would like to upgrade ram higher for some streaming and video editing but I know some mb that are dual channel don't like when u put 4 stick of ram in

[main pulsar]

what cooler

what ram

[wind field]

I'm looking for low profile ram now and the cooler is the dark rock pro 4

[main pulsar]

normal height ram shouldnt be an issue

so like ripjaws V and corsair vengeance lpx

[wind field]

Hopefully

[mild jackal]

Plenty of clearance with ballistix elite https://i.imgur.com/lAwslTf.jpg

[wind field]

People are saying I need the dark rock pro 4 for the ryzen 9 3900x

[main pulsar]

the cooler is designed with memory modules in mind, so you can move the fan up out of the way of the ram if you need to

you dont need a specific cooler

[wind field]

Ok

[main pulsar]

you just need a capable one

dark rock pro 4 does good

[mild jackal]

DRP4 or a noctua anything are two of many good fits.

[wind field]

I would like to keep the cpu cool I am watching a ltt review of the cpu now

[main pulsar]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BYP9S95?tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=osi&th=1

its like 15 dollars cheaper

good enough to handle 3900x stock

and you could probably mount the fan on the otherside of the cooler

but the default fan mount might not even get in the way of the ram

[wind field]

I want to overclock some to

[hollow thorn]

Interesting cooler

[main pulsar]

wait

oops

@hollow thorn i fixed the link

thank you lol

[hollow thorn]

LOL

@main pulsar what was that other one tho

[main pulsar]

idk lol

the wrong one

[hollow thorn]

It was like a nh l12

Really interesting

Push air up

[main pulsar]

ya, but i wanted to send the dark rock 4

[hollow thorn]

Lol

[main pulsar]

not whatever tf that was

[hollow thorn]

@wind field we fixed Link

[wind field]

Ok lol

[naive pendant]

does anyone know what bios the b450m pro4 ships with

[main pulsar]

depends on where you buy it from

[deep vigil]

I should ship with newest if completly new

and if it doesn't just do the thing that where amd gives you chip to update bios with

[main pulsar]

according to
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M Pro4/index.asp

yes and no

the box in the pic says ryzen 2000 ready, but the specs mention the use of matisse cpus

but the use of 3rd gen ryzen is never explicitly stated

but, according to the CPU support list, most 3rd gen chips have been supported since bios P3.30

which was released may 2019

so i would say yes, that board does support it out of the box

[fickle goblet]

any good cpu recommendations under $200?

[digital kernel]

@fickle goblet 3600 is solid

[fickle goblet]

@digital kernel is it good price to peformance? i dont mind spending on the higher end of $200 as long as im getting the bang for my buck, i wanna get the best for the money im working with

[naive pendant]

I think it's on sale rn as well

[digital kernel]

3600 is one of the best price to performance wise

[mild jackal]

3600 for $170 or something is the best perf/$ rightnow.

[fickle goblet]

bet thanks guys

same question but for b550 boards?

[digital kernel]

3600 you can get away with b450

[fickle goblet]

im one of those latest features kind of guys unless theres no real difference between b450 and b550

[digital kernel]

Mainly pcie 4.0

What's your overall budget?

[fickle goblet]

at the moment im only upgrading my mobo, cpu, and ram. overall id like to stay around $400

[dark sapphire]

What’s SDRAM on a Ram?

What does it do?

Team group has 16gb 3200 MHz on new egg for sale right now with SDRAM

[naive pendant]

I believe there are some Ripjaws on sale atm

[dark sapphire]

Where at @naive pendant

[naive pendant]

Newegg.com

Lemme check my email again.

[dark sapphire]

Yea I see them @naive pendant I want a faster speed though

[naive pendant]

What speed?

Cause I'm looking at a 3600 right now

[dark sapphire]

3200

Oh what’s the link?

[naive pendant]

3600 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Item=N82E16820232880

3200 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231941?Item=N82E16820231941

[dark sapphire]

That’s legit

Would It be better the 3600?

[naive pendant]

Latency is basically the same, so for the exta few bucks, I'd go with the 3600

Well. $14.00

I never knew they had gray...

[dark sapphire]

What’s the best latency to get?

[digital kernel]

Lower latency is best @dark sapphire

[tranquil wolf]

So I have an old setup in my spare/media PC (AMD FX-6300, Gigabyte GA-76LMT board, 16GB DDR3 1333MHz). The CPU fan is ramping up to between 4.6k and almost 7k RPM. Looking to possibly replace the CPU/mobo/RAM. Thinking of getting a dual-core Celeron or an i3-9300F, swapping my current/main PC mobo from an AsRock Phantom 4 (LGA1151-300 series) to an ASUS Prime Z390-A and using the Phantom 4 in media PC, and grabbing a cpl 8GB Aegis RAM sticks for the media. Main PC is using an i5 9600K w/ DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (4x8). Any pro/con you folks can think of for doing this? Or have any other suggestions?

[vivid grotto]

Best $100-$120 NVMe m.2 1tb ssd?

[supple monolith]

mp34 is $8 over but pretty much best value
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/

[finite elm]

🤔wouldn't the PNY XLR8 CS3030 probably be better, around the same price, faster read and write speeds.

@supple monolith

[hollow thorn]

more expensive for slight gains

[finite elm]

It's on sale for 129 on amazon

So 1$ more

[hollow thorn]

was at 139

I'll check specs

They're very close in terms of performance

but sustained writes the cs3030 suffers it seems

cs3030 in red

mp34 in red

still reading the review gimme a bit

[finite elm]

Oof.

Big gap. Was generally curious

[supple monolith]

I mean, both are still solid drives from what I see.

Depends on what you value more

[hollow thorn]

they're both solid

the two drives trade blows

tho cs3030 wins in seq read

[finite elm]

I'm happy with mine, so I'm not too worried

[hollow thorn]

or so it seems

hmm

oh MP34 wins in seq. read, cs3030 wins in random reads

I think

[finite elm]

The numbers confuse me

[hollow thorn]

they confuse me too

they just trade blows all over the place

no clear winner

either works

[finite elm]

Ye

So go with the cheaper one lol

[hollow thorn]

but cs3030 usually is around 140$ so mp34 is a solid bet

its like sn750 vs mp34

both good

cheapest works

[finite elm]

As long as it's not awful though 😤

[digital kernel]

@hollow thorn What is the horizontal axis on that first chart?

[hollow thorn]

I think it is the percentage of completion of the tweaktown test

[digital kernel]

Okay

[mild jackal]

It is ya, meant to show after how much throughput/time drives throttle etc

99% of the time - I think people blow throttling worries out of proportion

A 660p 1TB has 72GB of SLC cache, you have to write ~120GB (best case, using an empty dive, but still) to hit the sequential write throttle

[digital kernel]

660p isn't as bad as it's made out to be. I got one because it was on sale for cheap, and I am very happy with it

[vivid grotto]

For that $130 range you guys are kinda in is the wd black drive good? $134 on wd website

Also gonna store some games and windows. It’s gonna be my main drive

[hollow thorn]

which

sn750?

[deep vigil]

sn750 is good drive

so is mp34 if you can't fit it into the budget

[midnight pollen]

sn750 might be a bit more expensive than mp34 rn

[warped scroll]

Yeah it is last time I checked

It was a barely less than EX920 iirc.

[severe minnow]

Hello

Anyone around I can bounce some question off of about a new build I am troubleshooting?

[midnight pollen]

feel free to ask, if someone has an answer they will likely jump in 🙂

[severe minnow]

thanks! I recently purchased a Asrock A320M-HDV R4.0 MB with Ryzen 3 3200G CPU Viper Patriot ram 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 Dimms and intel 660p SSD along with windows 10 64bit Asus DVDRW and NOD 32 AV. I had problems installing WIN 10 the first go around right off the bat during install so I RMA'd everything just to be sure I didn't miss anything and got all new parts.

I finally got the build stable but it randomly crashes with the ntoskrnl.exe being the culprit in Blue Screen Viewer of the minidump. Every single crash is contributed to the kernel in BSV so I finally checked the Asrock website and I found that the Viper Mem is not in the support list for this board. Could that be the reason why I am having so many problems?

Oh yeah I got this all from NEWEGG as well

The funny thing is Windows Mem Diag, and Memtest doesn't come up with any errors at all. Both XMP profile Enabled and disabled. Ran then both extensively also tried bare bones system just the board, cpu, ram, mem and DVDRW with onboard graphics. Still crashes randomly.

[midnight pollen]

faulty or inadequate ram can be a possible issue. is there something you do when it usually crashes or just on desktop. looks like it could also be corrupt sys files, could try a dism and sfc scan to see if that picks up anything

[severe minnow]

Oh yeah I performed SFC and DISM no corruption. Sometimes I just move the mouse after idle a few minutes and it crashes BSOD lol

But then sometimes the build is stable and no problems whatsoever. All my drivers are latest versions direct from Manufactures as well.

when I checked the Asrock Website I could not find this ram on the support list. Could that be the problem? I am tearing my hair out to find the culprit here lol

[midnight pollen]

strange, sounds like something is unstable

[severe minnow]

I know, in my experience when ram is faulty or defective the build would never be as stable. Oh yeah, whenever I attempt to play youtube videos my PC freezes up completely as well. I am using a Geforce 1050 TI PCIe GPU which I know is good because I tested it on another machine. No problems with the card (Ram not the supported by the other PC so i can't test that there)

Right now I am on this build on this chat. Just to show it can be stable for long periods.

Thanks for the help Banned. I appreciated the attempt lol. I am most likely going to RMA the memory again but exchange it for ram that is listed on the Asrock site for this board

This way I could at least rule that out

[midnight pollen]

ye it's a start i guess. sorry i couldn't help much im not the best at troubleshooting 😄

[wind field]

How good is a Asus TUF gaming x570-plus (WI-FI) Atx motherboard?

[main pulsar]

good

[upbeat lichen]

i think i might be giving up on my X58 build and just parting some of it out

i've spent days troubleshooting and cant' figure out what's wrong

and things that i thought i fixed end up going back to broken behavior without me changing anything

i might just try and find a deal on a different cpu/mobo/ram combo and replace the x58 board

[lethal glacier]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h/p/N82E16813145083?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Future+Publishing+Ltd&AFFID=2294204&AFFNAME=Future+Publishing+Ltd&ACRID=16156507524&ASUBID=pcg-4250684627865159000&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgamer.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2294204&ranSiteID=kXQk6.ivFEQ-iozMwbAQae.9u6FwvV2OVg

Is this a good mobo?

[gritty patio]

yes

[fallow sluice]

any cpu recommendations for CSGO and Valorant 144 fps?

[midnight pollen]

very vague, but ryzen 5 3600 is a very good mid range chip

[tacit hemlock]

Yep

[warped scroll]

Even as low as a Ryzen 1500x paired with a decent GPU will yield that for you

[humble vessel]

I need to know if the Crucial 64GB Kit (32GBx2) DDR4 2666 MT/s CL19 SODIMM 260-Pin Memory - CT2K32G4SFD8266 is compatible with the 2019 27' iMac

i purchased the imac last night and then purchased the ram but i just need to check if the ram is compatable i think i might have went too high

on the ram

and the 32gb isnt compatible

[digital kernel]

The better question becomes "why did you buy in iMac"

[midnight pollen]

people have their reasons

[humble vessel]

why did i buy an imac? because i like them

[digital kernel]

The question now becomes "why do you like them"

[humble vessel]

i like the apple ecosystem

but i seriously need an answer to the question about the RAM

[digital kernel]

You don't mind the price gouging?

Apple is really bad about publishing what components will and will not work for upgrading their systems. I would recommend contacting apple, saying you want to upgrade your ram, and just get whatever kit they recommend

Also, upgrading the ram will most likely void your warrenty

[midnight pollen]

well a kit they recommend may cost a fortune

[digital kernel]

Welp, that's apple for you

[midnight pollen]

some websites have a filter i think

this is on b&h https://i.imgur.com/ZjOQhPW.png

[digital kernel]

Nice

@humble vessel There ya go, pick one of the kits that b&h lists as supprted

[midnight pollen]

any of these should be compatible https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/Computer-Memory/ci/13341/N/3835434469?filters=fct_a_mac-memory_5415%3Aimac-retina-5k-27in-2019

[digital kernel]

Assuming it;s an iMac retina pro

[midnight pollen]

the one i selected was 2019 27" 5k

[digital kernel]

You wanted 64GB, right?

[midnight pollen]

the closest to your kit i see is this https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1497334-REG/crucial_ct2k16g4s266m_32gb_kit_16gbx2_ddr4.html

[digital kernel]

Here's a 2x32GB kit
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1462782-REG/owc_other_world_computing_owc2666ddr4s64p_64gb_kit_2x32_2666mhz.html

@humble vessel my guess given this list is that the ram you purchased will not be compatible

Welcome to the ecosystem

[polar fern]

Hey I just read that my xmp profile can burn my imc

What is IMC

[main pulsar]

integrated memory controller

its the part of your CPU's silicon that handles your RAM

[shadow seal]

Integrated memory controller. and it can but is unlikely

intel claims that but the numbers needed to damage it are hard to reach

and is dependant on the motherboard

[main pulsar]

and all XMP profiles are certified to work on certain boards and CPUs, and because motherboard standards are so strict, and because the cpu architecture is the same across an entire line of cpus, its nearly impossible for physical damage to be an issue

[mild jackal]

Hey I just read that my xmp profile can burn my imc
Sometimes - it's because some mobos cough asus will auto-set the vccio and vccsa to 1.4-1.5+ volts when 3600+ mhz ram is running.

The XMP profile doesn't set those voltages, just the vdimm.

[warm fulcrum]

is a ryzen 7 3800X good enough or should I wait for the XT?

[gritty patio]

its good

dont wait lmao

[warm fulcrum]

really?

i thought the XT was suppossed to be better?

supposed

[main pulsar]

by like 1-200mhz

and when the difference between the 3700x and 3800x is already nearly unnoticeable for most people

the XT certainly isnt bringing anything to the table for most people

[warm fulcrum]

so is it worth the extra $80? to go from $319 on amazon to $400 for the XT?

doesnt sound like it

[gritty patio]

no

not at all

@warm fulcrum

[warm fulcrum]

ok thx

[pure wolf]

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 in the mail

[lethal glacier]

Is there a major difference between the b450 tomahawk max and the gaming plus max? And what if there is

[gritty patio]

@lethal glacier as far i know, no

there isnt

maybe vrms but other than that

no

[crystal hill]

hmm

[warped scroll]

Well there has to be a difference. Why make 2 separate models hat are the same?

I guess maybe looks

[digital kernel]

Probably quality

[foggy pumice]

One stick of ram per chrome tab

All of you guys are silly

[jovial nova]

Hey is xpg good

I have xpg d80 3000 2x8

[digital kernel]

It's slow

[jovial nova]

Damn it

What do I do then

[main pulsar]

good enough

overclock it

in bios

[digital kernel]

Zoom

[jovial nova]

Get all new or just get 2 more matching sticks

[digital kernel]

I might try lowering my timings

[jovial nova]

Bob

How to higher timings

[digital kernel]

Just get two matching sticks

[jovial nova]

I increased xpg profile

Not timing tho

[digital kernel]

Don't do higher timings, do lower timings

[jovial nova]

Can u show me later if I dm you

[digital kernel]

You go into bios

And you type in a number

Is all

[tacit edge]

Hi guys, is this the right place to ask for help with my motherboard?

[midnight pollen]

Yes

[hollow thorn]

ye

[tacit hemlock]

affirmative

[main pulsar]

yup

[warped scroll]

Absolutely

[digital kernel]

Okay, so I got my OS down to 169MB of ram, so I'm going to assume those are good and run the built in memtest on the rest of them

[sudden coral]

What processor should I go with for a 1070 ti? something with like a Wraith Prism cooler

If you suggest a 3600, help me find a white cpu cooler

white fan CPU cooler

[gritty patio]

@sudden coral

https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-GAMMAXX-Cooler-Heatpipes-Compatible/dp/B01N6ALCUY/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=white+heatsink&qid=1593937026&sr=8-1

for the 3600

https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-ETS-T50-Addressable-Univeral-Contact/dp/B07XQKRH9J/ref=sr_1_19?dchild=1&keywords=white+heatsink&qid=1593937055&sr=8-19

this one has argb for just $5 more

[sudden coral]

Ah thanks

[cyan falcon]

any good suggestions on a cpu to match a rtx 2060 from zotac? id prefer if it was around the ryzen 5 2600x to ryzen 5 3600

bcs i have a 2600 now

im on a budget

[crude path]

i mean the 2600 should be fine for a 2060

im using a 2070 super and 2600 and no issues

[naive pendant]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oofKING-49/saved/qKH68d

any motherboards that are IN STOCK that are around same price range

[hollow thorn]

back ordered is about as good as you're gonna get

theres this back ordered too
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-hdv/p/N82E16813157953

[naive pendant]

dam thats the motherboard som1 already sent

rip

ok if i go a bit higher is there anything in stock?

or whats the cheapest in stock

(thats more than the 1 i have)

[hollow thorn]

They're all out of stock or back ordered or more on the way

up to like 130$

I'd stick with back ordered one

[naive pendant]

how long does back order take? typically

[spare gyro]

Depends on the item and how many people ordered as well as how many they can even place a bulk order for right now. Things are limited so it’s not like they can get their typical supply of everything.

[cyan falcon]

@crude path i have a 2600 but i am upgrading curtosy of my dad becuase he needs to upgrade his computer and he figured that since i play more cpu entinsive games then him hed upgrade me and take what i have now, thats why im wanting to know about a good cpu to rock with my 2060

[crude path]

i mean if you are wanting an upgrade and can find it for a good price, then go with a 3600. But you may not see a performance increase as the 2600 doesnt really limit the 2060

or see if you can get a 3600x

[dire wharf]

Question. Think a 3900x is worth 350 used? Also think an Aorus B450 Wifi + a 3900x is worth $400?

[quaint current]

i mean a 3900x is like 415 rn

[dire wharf]

Thought about getting the combo and reselling the motherboard since I alreadu have a b550.

[quaint current]

yeah you could probably sell it for more than 50 so I’d get the bundle and sell the b450

[tired spruce]

i'm new to buliding pcs and was wondering if it would be better to wait for AMD to release a zen 3 processor or to try and get an AMD 3900XT.

[deep vigil]

@tired spruce just wait if you can

[digital kernel]

Agreed. Wait if you can

[spice mountain]

When is Ryzen 4000 series estimated release gonna be?

[main pulsar]

sometime this year

[warm sedge]

Nice pfp

[upbeat lichen]

how much should something like an i5-6400/i5-7400 go for? stealing the i7-6700 from one of my machines to complete another build, and looking for something to replace the 6700 in the dell (precision tower, C236 chipset)

[native spindle]

if i get a mobo that has on board ethernet and says 1 x 1000 Mbit/s is that good enough ? so if i do a speed test and my wifi plan is 200 mbps , will the 1x1000mbit be able to run up to 200 mbps on a speed test?

[brittle glade]

s the ryzen 3 3300x a better option than the ryzen 5 1600af/2600 (ik they are basically the same), is it worth to sacrifice 2 cores and 4 threads?, I was also thinking that the 3600 could be a better option.

[deep vigil]

@brittle glade if ur gaming get 3300x

[naive pendant]

Hi i was wondering if i buy the B450 Tomahawk by MSI will i have to update bios if i want to put a 3rd gen Ryzen cpu?

[deep vigil]

@naive pendant if it is a max version no

If not very unlikely u would have to

[naive pendant]

ok thanks

[wintry rose]

Anybody ever use this type of NVME from Barracuda before?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07ZPRV8JY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&th=1

Or I might just stick with a MP34

[hollow thorn]

I would rather suggest a SN750 at the same price

Turns out MP34 has a 20$ shipping fee in CA

[wintry rose]

Ooo looks purdier as well

[hollow thorn]

https://www.newegg.ca/team-group-mp34-512gb/p/N82E16820331308

sad

but sn750 good drive

[wintry rose]

Yeah the MP34 with the shipping fee threw me off last minute 😦

Thoughts on NVME with a heat sink on a gaming rig?

[hollow thorn]

no need

unless it's a pcie 4.0 drive

[wintry rose]

Good to know. Thanks Mr1111

[opal rivet]

im tryna pick out a decently priced motherboard. im getting a ryzen 7 3700x and idk what kinda board to get

[compact sun]

what is the dif between the ryzen 9 3900x and the 3900x matisse processors?

[pearl crow]

@opal rivet well, b450/b550 tomahawk are the generic answers, but honestly any non ASRock board between $120-$200 should work just fine

Hardware unboxed has done many videos on the various am4 videos, just choose a board that doesn't fail the vrm tests

[grim mica]

Asrock steel legend's vrm heatsink is kinda small

you'll want direct airflow on that heatsink if you dream of using 3700x

or you can just head the lower end of b550

most of their vrms are decent at least, despite some exceptions

[warped scroll]

3700X only has 65w TDP

[main pulsar]

default EDC for 3700x is 90A

does anyone have the AM4 motherboard VRM spreadsheet?

cant find it, and there a screenshot pinned here, but i want a link to the actual sheet

nvm found it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview#

[compact sun]

MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE is that worth $600?

[last folio]

So, im making the switch from a I7-9700k to a R9 3900XT, and im looking around at MOBO's and im trying to find the most, amatuer overclocker friendly one, my eye is grabbed alot by the Asus crosshair VIII hero, any higher recommendations?

[hollow thorn]

@compact sun no motherboard above 300$ should ever be bought imo xD

X570 unify is about the highest end board I'd reccomend

[tacit hemlock]

What about the asus x570 e gaming

[digital kernel]

What is your current set?

@jovial nova

What do you do?

What is the highest ram usage you have seen?

It might not be your ram

What CPU/GPU do you have?

[midnight pollen]

16gb should be plenty for gaming

[main pulsar]

what motherboard do you have

for R5 1600, ram speed is quite limited

oh, is this the 12nm refresh? the 1600 AF?

or the og 1600

[midnight pollen]

people who need more than 16gb is usually for people who do editing or rendering that need the extra ram

[main pulsar]

yeah, today, 16gb is just ideal for games

[midnight pollen]

also depends on mobo, limit could be around 3200mhz

[main pulsar]

so, youre already running 3000 ram,

can you link exactly what you have rn?

[carmine anvil]

Hello I have a question that needs an answer i need a motherboard for my ryzen 3600 but cannot find one in my price range that doesnt need to have its bois flashed

my price range is up to $135

[tranquil wolf]

Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM

does not have to be flashed w/ the 3600

[upbeat lichen]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h/p/N82E16813145083 - in stock, $78 shipped, but micro-ATX if it matters

at this point, any B450 boards coming from the factory should be getting built and flashed with the right BIOS for 3000 series

[carmine anvil]

okay thank you so much

[tranquil wolf]

i know that PCPP flags the Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM as needing one, but we have built 2 systems in the last month w/ them w/ no bios flashes needed, so lol

[carmine anvil]

okay cool thank you for the help

is this the one your talking about

https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-b450m-a-csm/p/N82E16813119137?Description=Asus Prime B450M-A/CSM&cm_re=Asus_Prime B450M-A/CSM-_-13-119-137-_-Product&quicklink=true

i dont wanna assume this is it without verifying @tranquil wolf

[tranquil wolf]

this is the one we used @carmine anvil

[carmine anvil]

okay thank you

[tranquil wolf]

no prob

[naive pendant]

My first successful CPU overclock!

mans is on s games mode with that 3950x

[naive pendant]

Is there a software that diagnoses if my motherboard is faulty or my CPU?

[naive pendant]

I think it just boils down to if you get the bluescreen of death on Windows a lot, if you don't then you're fine.

[spice mountain]

Is there any new CPUs coming out that would pair with the RTX 3000s?

[naive pendant]

Uhhhh.... Current CPUs?

[spice mountain]

I'd rather get the next gen of CPU to fit with the next gen of GPU

[naive pendant]

Looks like you just answered your own question there xD

[upbeat lichen]

ryzen 4th gen is coming out later this year, supposedly it hasn't been delayed or anything

[spice mountain]

Ryzen 4000 it is then

[lethal glacier]

B450 gaming plus max or GIGABYTE B450M?

[deep vigil]

@lethal glacier budget and cou?

Cpu

[empty phoenix]

Good ddr4 3000mhz 16gb kits?

Cheap

[neat glacier]

@empty phoenix

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232417

although if I were you I would spend the extra 10$ to get aura sync ram

https://www.newegg.com/geil-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820158617?

[lethal glacier]

7 3700x and the budget is just not to expensive. Don’t want something that’s to expensive cause of COVID @deep vigil

[deep vigil]

Of course

[regal bobcat]

Thoughts on this mobo?

https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/x570 taichi/

Vs https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/

[hollow thorn]

x570 plus wifi is a great board at 190$

[regal bobcat]

How much performance difference between the two?

[hollow thorn]

I mean

motherboard doesn't contribute a lot to performance

basically no difference in performance

you choose the motherboard for the features

How many M.2 slots, sata slots, USB slots, wifi, LAN, etc

and the price

[regal bobcat]

Ah i see.

[supple monolith]

And OC support/power delivery

[hollow thorn]

VRMs, but that doesn't matter as much even in Ryzen OCing

as long as it's decent, which both of those are, it's fine

[regal bobcat]

Ah i see..

[hollow thorn]

Intel it's a lot more apparent, I mean 10900k drawing 300w on slight OC, that's tough

[regal bobcat]

Mainly wanted the Taichi cuz it looks cooler lmao

Compared to my current x570 plus wifi

[hollow thorn]

x570 plus wifi is a great board

[regal bobcat]

But I guess its not worth if no difference

[hollow thorn]

yea

unless idk you need something taichi offers like more sata slots or smth

[regal bobcat]

My brother got the maximus viii x570 crosshair

He said it much better then mine cuz it has internet packets making it better

[hollow thorn]

lol ok

at that point you're spending hundreds on random stuff you prob won't need

It's prob got better wifi bc it's got 802.11ax and plus wifi has 802.11ac iirc

[regal bobcat]

I see.

[hollow thorn]

other than that

no noticeable difference unless you need more usb ports or smth

[rose sonnet]

I need intel cpu

For server

a.s.ap

[digital kernel]

What will you be doing with the server?

[main pulsar]

and what form factor

cuz a dell optiplex with a core 2 duo fits your requirements

[rose sonnet]

I run servers

Dataservers

And

Storage servers

[digital kernel]

Only storage?

[main pulsar]

wait, are you asking for a recommendation, or for us to give you an actual intel cpu??

because you should already know what you need

you shouldnt need an 18 year old to tell you lmao

[digital kernel]

If you only have storage, any old CPU will do

Just find a motherboard with a lot of sata or get a pcie controller, then slap in the cheapest CPU it supports

[mild jackal]

[tacit hemlock]

Lol

[dire wharf]

Maybe this is the wrong place but what a good cheap wifi m.2 with gb speeds?

[digital kernel]

For laptop?

[dire wharf]

Desktop. My b550 has the spot for one

[digital kernel]

Any reason why you can't use the pcie slot?