#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 103

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:54 PM

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so i am wondering if there is anything new you guys can advise...there is one i saw on newegg.com and their support send me here

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no problem i understand

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i like the look of those Asus machines 👍

left root Apr 24, 2020, 8:56 PM

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w

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 PM

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why?

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@royal kraken my recommendation, would be to start looking at manuals

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:02 PM

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that works...i will try Naed...do you think i can access them from newegg.com?

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:03 PM

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i doubt it @royal kraken

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its a hunt/peck through the manufacturers pages

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because i doubt anyone here will be able to help you as such

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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no problem - thank you

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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but, here is something to consider, HP and Dell actually do decent machines that ARE open

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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yes leaning towards Dell

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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at least, i know i have colleagues that drag some of them around

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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lol

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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but again, i honestly dont know how much modification/custom they have done

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and the problem/challenge here is, they definitely have the know-how to "fix" stuff

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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got it...thank you for taking the time to chat with me

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:06 PM

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you are very welcome :) and its always interesting to hear that not everything is a blasted windows box

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and best of luck, i sadly think you are going to need that and a bunch of patience

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oh oh, i think i know which community you might want to ask thou

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the level1tech community might be the place to go @royal kraken

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:07 PM

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oh cool... i will give it a spin

weak hamlet Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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permission update.d

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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thank you

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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thank you @weak hamlet

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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IF/when you find something, could you check back in and throw me a message about it?

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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that works

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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i would be quite interested in hearing the result @royal kraken :)

royal kraken Apr 24, 2020, 9:09 PM

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perfect

gritty meadow Apr 24, 2020, 9:09 PM

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:)

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:12 PM

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heyo! i just have a quick question.. i plan on upgrading my pc soon with a ASUS ROG STRIX B450-f board with a ryzen 5 3600x. Will i need to invest in another cpu to update the bios? or should i be fine just to build it how it is

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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most B450 boards will say if they support 3000 series ryzen

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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ohh alright

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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check the listing where you plan to buy the board

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another thing

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that board is overpriced

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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yeah.. i was thinking the same thing lol..

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:13 PM

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get something cheaper, or just get an x570

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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alright.. thats why im still in the "planning stage" and asking these questions

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alright

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:14 PM

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also the 3600 non x is cheaper, and performs about the same

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unless you cen get the 3600x for like $10 more, its not really worth it

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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yeah.. its about 10 bucks more

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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its like 35 more

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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but alright.. thanks alot! appreciate it

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 PM

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plan on getting the non x for now

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if you come across the 3600x at a better price before you buy your components, then snag it

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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gotcha!

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-pro-gaming/p/N82E16813119224?Description=asus tuf pro&cm_re=asus_tuf_pro-_-13-119-224-_-Product

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also i think this board is really good

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iirc, this is what most people recommend

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:18 PM

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that looks pretty good for what need,, also supports 3rd gen.. i think i found the one! 😆

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is there any known issues with it? or is it just a sometimes here and there issue

main pulsar Apr 24, 2020, 11:19 PM

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nope, its just a solid board

naive pendant Apr 24, 2020, 11:20 PM

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sweet! well thank you alot!

fading gazelle Apr 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

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whats the diff between corsaisr 3200 and 3600?

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which one should I get?

warm path Apr 25, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Is it ram? @fading gazelle

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@fading gazelle tell me the price of each

warm path Apr 25, 2020, 2:57 AM

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If the price is good for both

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I would go with the 3600

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Only if your cpu supports it

thorny wind Apr 25, 2020, 2:59 AM

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I got a bad ryzen and troubleshooting took me a whole day :(

warm path Apr 25, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Oh ok

simple ginkgo Apr 25, 2020, 6:16 PM

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im running 16GB of 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance LPX. I believe i got it for around $80 on Newegg. Works like a charm with my i5-9400 @fading gazelle comes in white or black if memory serves me. I have the white variant.

fading gazelle Apr 25, 2020, 6:16 PM

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the 3200 and 3600 is the same price

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on amazon

simple ginkgo Apr 25, 2020, 6:18 PM

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its all based on what you need. Intel doesnt rely too much on ram speed where ryzen does. had this been a ryzen build id go 3600

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i just check and it was $83.45 with tax

fading gazelle Apr 25, 2020, 6:20 PM

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oh i do have amd ryzen build

simple ginkgo Apr 25, 2020, 6:21 PM

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if your board supports it you could overclock your ram a bit 3600+100-200 more mhz but nonestly at that speed there is no real reason. unless you have a threadripper with 2080ti then you need to max out your mobo with the highest it can support. 4000+

olive umbra Apr 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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waiting for that sweet, sweet X570 Tomahawk to drop

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I love the idea of the Unify but $460 after tax here in Canada is a bit insane lol

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Likewise, gonna go with 3200 CL16 memory for when I build my production rig because uh

3600+ is like $600 where 2x32GB 3200 CL16 Trident Z RGBs are just under $480

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well, 3600 CL18 isn't much more expensive but eh

fringe crow Apr 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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My 3700x is sitting at and idle temp of 40C to 50C? I have it water cooled with the Deepcool Gamerstorm Captain RGB v2. This cooler worked very well with my FX-8350. Is this just how the CPU is going to run or is this a bit too much? I applied paste twice with the same result.

long geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@olive umbra why are you trying to get a heavy OC board for a production rig? Planning to dry ice/LN2 it? Seems like a bad idea for a production rig tbh. Also, 32gb 3600 CL16 is $224 CAD

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ah wait...

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Sorry yeah 64gb would be $448

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Being 4x16gb

olive umbra Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Not so much for the OC as for the 2.5Gbit LAN

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Hollywood Series is heavy, so if I get 1.5 gigabit fibre I want to be able to use it lol

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(HS currently takes up ~1.3 TB on a 6 TB external I have)

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Most non-enthusiast / OC boards don't have 2.5 Gbit NICs

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Also dunno where you're getting $448 from but I guess I should have said I'm going for "RGB" memory (though I'll only be using the R part lol), 64 GB 3600/CL16 is $550-610 depending on make

long geyser Apr 25, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@olive umbra Any reason for not getting an add in card for the networking? Cuts $150 CAD off the budget
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mgcdzN

System Builder

olive umbra Apr 25, 2020, 11:45 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/NebulonRanger/saved/9Q78Jx here's the full list

Ryzen Overkill Build

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This is going to be used for a lot of different things, most notably being music production and programming

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The 8TB spinning disk is there as bulk storage, nothing more

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I likely don't need a 750W PSU but there's little else available from PCPP's perspective

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so consider that a placeholder

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The Prisma fans are great because you can daisy chain them, so I don't need any more than 2 fan headers anyway

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The 2TB firecuda 520 is where Hollywood Series will live, since a dedicated SSD is pretty much required to use it effectively

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(Didn't get Samsung 970s because frankly, there's little point when SSDs like the FireCuda 520 that use Toshiba flash and Phison E16 controllers perform pretty much just as well for less money)

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Tried to get as close as I could to 2080 Ti performance since even if I did have room in the budget for one, I still couldn't justify the absurd $800 tax-inclusive price jump.

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Hence the 2080S instead

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I bought trident z gtzr for my Ryzen system a couple years back without noticing and recently just ordered gtzrx with a higher speed but my computer has been randomly restarting for the past coupe of years would the wrong ram have been leading to this

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And should I wait for Ryzen 4000 or just buy 3700x even though I will get a b550

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I mean there are people still using 2700Xs, I wouldn't assume that the 3700X would be made into garbagio by Ryzen 4000

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Ok I think I’ll just buy it now then I’m selling my 2700 anyway

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Do you have any advice about the ram issue?

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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It honestly depends on the board

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:47 AM

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B450

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Rig struck

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Strix

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Hm, that's an ASUS board so Trident Zs shouldn't be having problems anyway

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Ik but it’s Intel ram

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Version of trident z

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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(Gigabyte RGB Fusion and Trident Zs don't get along)

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I have a gigabyte card

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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If you're using RGB Fusion to control any lights on it it's always a possible culprit

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Yes I am

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It’s randomly changes colors that explains it all now

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I’ll set the ram to one color and it’s Always another thank you

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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@olive umbra $150 CAD more but have the 10gb networking, 2080Ti, and optimized the rest of the parts
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4zW24n

System Builder

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Should I use different ram or just delete the fusion

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Controlling software

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Uninstall RGB Fusion first and see if it fixes the problem

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Ok I’ll try that thanks

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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It's not very good software anyway

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Yea ik right

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I’m running like four software anywa

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Anyway

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Cooler master icue aura and egg fusion

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Rgb

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:52 AM

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@long geyser Do you have shops configured on PCPP that I don't? I explicitly disabled amazon because COVID makes it unreliable in terms of shipping

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@olive umbra http://puu.sh/FCwZL/1544d629e5.png

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that is how his list looks in default pcpp

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so, you can compare and decide if things are worth it etc

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I also have 13% tax set up on all stores because Ontario taxes, so it's closer to $5600 after tax

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Still in budget, but still

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Ah yes, fellow Ontarian

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Tis am one as well

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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@olive umbra do remember, we cannot read your mind as to what rules/regulations you are under :)

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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100% fair

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I should have specified to begin with

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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If you have spare parts around, which given how high end this system is I can take a guess you do, then it may be possible to use those parts for the random Amazon shipping to get to you

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:00 AM

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yeah worst comes to it I can make do with the Corsair H60, MSI 2060 super and other assorted fans until Amazon decides to ship stuff

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:00 AM

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i looking for 600-700 USD gaming laptop

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no one help me

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pls

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:01 AM

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The H60 may actually do better on a 105W 3950X than it's currently doing on my 140W 5820K lol

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:01 AM

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can someone help me

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Yea sure

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You happy with 1080p

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Ultra setting

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@leaden pumice

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:02 AM

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wut

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yea

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thx

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:02 AM

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I’ll make a list

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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LAPTOP

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Rgb?

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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NOT PC

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LAPTOP

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I had a laptop

leaden pumice Apr 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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LAPTOP

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sighh......

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never mind

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bye

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Bye

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:08 AM

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also @long geyser hilariously enough it's on the order of one singular dollar more expensive to just use a 64 GB kit of the same 3600 CL16 Trident Z RGB over 2 32 GB kits

2x2x16: $605.61
4x16: $606.81

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Normally I'd agree with the idea that going the double kit route is better (because it's usually cheaper), but not with Trident Z RGBs apparently

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:14 AM

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@nimble olive when the person is asking for a laptop recommendation, giving a sermon on why that is wrong. Is not exactly helpful :)

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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realistically speaking though you aren't going to find much at $700 USD for a gaming laptop

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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that depends on your definition of gaming.

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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True

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:16 AM

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but no, you are not going to find a 144hz capable one

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:17 AM

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the closest you'll get is a dell inspiron gaming 15 with a 1050 Ti for about $890

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Which is by all rights a pretty good machine, especially for one made by dell

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:19 AM

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fairly certain there are regular offers/sales on machines in that category, that make them go very close to 700

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:19 AM

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for sure, the IG15 is one I had off the top of my head though

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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@olive umbra If you're going for CL16 then the 4x16gb isnt cheap

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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QVL might be worth looking into too

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just saying

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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has there really been any mem issues on Zen2 tho? I havent heard of any

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:23 AM

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that and you'd be hard-pressed to find any 4x16 kits that have been tested with most boards

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which is pretty much what QVL boils down to these days

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I've looked, there aren't many listed

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also gonna say that those fans look nice, but advetising 27 CFM as "high airflow" made me chuckle

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They're cheap though which is a pro in itself if they work well

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:26 AM

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@olive umbra I think it’s the sticks themselves because even after deleting the software it kinda now just doing its own thing and aura won’t still work after reseating and swapping positions but my new ram should be here soon anyway thanks for the assistance

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Hell, Deepcool RF120 5in1 packs are about 10 bucks cheaper and they have pretty nice airflow at 57.5 CFM

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And no problem @nimble olive

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Would you recommend going another brand of ram anyway

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Because I can return go for Corsair vengeance if it still will do this with my new trident z

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I'd avoid it, don't want to clutter your boot drive with 50 RGB packages

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Don't go Corsair unless you have other iCUE products

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I do

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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There's no point doing it just for RAM

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Case

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And keyboard mousepad and mouse

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Alright, that's fine then

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Ok

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:31 AM

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going iCUE for a single product is a waste of time but if you have other Corsair RGB products it honestly is pretty hard to beat

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Corsair is quite overpriced on basically everything but PSUs. So yeah, one product for iCUE is usually a bad idea

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I say this as the man who uses Logitech Gaming Hub for a G910 and that's it

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(the G910 is a stellar keyboard though, even if the Spark has the classic white isn't actually white problem)

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I would agree icue is overpriced unless you buy it all on sale like I did

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And ram prices are good rn

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The rgb pro vengeance is 7 dollars more but well worth not dealing with the restarting crap

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During my ranked matches

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Honestly, Corsair and Logitech have the most mature RGB software out there

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I would agree

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Best coloring

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As well

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I do have Corsair mice and keyboards. Keyboard that I usually use has lasted many years now (probs 4+) and mouse is kinda new. Got it cuz 12 button on one side because I like them buttons. But Corsair periphs quality has gone down recently, my dad went through like three failing Corsair products in a year

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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My G910 is like 5 years old and the Omron Romer-Gs refuse to die

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I have the rgb pro mouse 30 bucks on sale later me so far my whole computer gaming of two years

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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keys still feel like new

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Lasted*

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I think the controller on my keyboard is starting to go. Keys randomly get stuck virtually every now and then

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Hyper x makes some solid keyboards as well

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Would you guys recommend the ASRock extreme X570 as a good mobo

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It’s a little on sale rn

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 1:44 AM

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depends on your needs

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:47 AM

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What advantages does it have over the b450

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Besides ski

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Sli

tacit hemlock Apr 26, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Pcie 4.0

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Then instead of focusing on chipset you can goto mobo specific stuff. WiFi, 2.5/10gb LAN, lots of SATA/USB/M2 ports, etc

deep vigil Apr 26, 2020, 2:35 AM

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a need a good mobo in the range of 100 -170 for a i79700k

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 4:44 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/NebulonRanger/saved/9Q78Jx did a bit of optimisation on my original build. In the end, a 2080 Ti isn't super important. Yeah it's the better card, but I'd much rather have a better CPU and more RAM for running digital signal processing in real time

Ryzen Overkill Build

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decided to just use the ASUS 10GbE NIC lol

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:46 AM

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@olive umbra the list I gave you had a filter for the SSDs to pick only gen4 ones. That 1tb MP600 isnt the cheapest 1tb gen4 NVMe

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Also note that G3 has a pretty bad OCP + OPP (protections) setup

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and is generally overpriced

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Yeah sadly everywhere seems to be out of the Seasonic unit I have in my current machine, otherwise I'd just get that again

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Seasonic is also usually overpriced

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but usually have acceptable PSUs

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I mean I dont consider $150 amazingly overpriced, since I paid that for the 650 I have right now

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:50 AM

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If you can get in contact with the seller to make sure that you get the 2020 model (rather then 2019, which had some issues) then 650w of same quality for $135 cad
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/fndxFT/antec-high-current-gamer-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hcg650-gold

Antec High Current Gamer Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modula...

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Also depends on which Seasonic you had. Some of the Focus' had issues with high powered GPUs and randomly shutting down

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I have one of the refreshed GX units

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:52 AM

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so fixed issues then

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:52 AM

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yeah

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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tho I believe stiffer and more annoy cables

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I think I managed to sneak the last one or something, since the Egg has been out of them since I bought it

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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As I think it was fixed via caps in the cables

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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A new 650w amp is 145 cad rn

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:54 AM

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I really with there was a way to specify which model you could get for things. Because that Antec one is about AMP perf if you get 2020 one, Problem that I cant really recommend it is that you might get 2019 model which had GPU shutdown issues

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kinda same for Seasonic, but at least they made the model a different SKU

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:55 AM

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corsair units are generally good, but like everything corsair, expensive for pretty much no reason

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:56 AM

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PSUs are their least overpriced thing. About something like 3+ months ago they were basically dominating the low end and mid end PSU market for best PSU for price

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Yea, Corsair PSUs usually have pretty good pricing, slightly overpriced on say RMx, but not ridiculous.

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:58 AM

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getting a Prisma S36 and three extra fans though is pretty cheap compared to going corsair for aios

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Cx is still the best lower end option when it's in stock at the normal price

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Especially considering the H150i doesn't have an RGB fan version yet

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so I'd have to buy expensive ass ML120 Pros or white LL120s

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 5:59 AM

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I mean

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Iirc h115i had rgb fans?

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But all AIOs are expensive for no real reason

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Other than Arctic freezer 2, that one's actually really good for the price

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:00 AM

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I've heard nothing but good about that one yeah

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Prisma fans are pretty much as good as it gets for mobo control as the only better option is TT fans and TT software sucks hard ass apparently

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Honestly if I was buying an AIO for looks, I would only get a h100i or similar Corsair AIOs

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I don't like the looks of most other AIOs

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Fractal's are nice because you get to largely avoid the rat's nest of wires

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Corsair is fine afaik

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:02 AM

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since there's a fan/rgb hub on the rad

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and prismas can be daisy chained

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Idrc that far with AIOs, you buy them for a clean look, you can wire them to be clean.

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:03 AM

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(AL12s are also cheaper by a significant margin than most of Corsair's fans)

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:03 AM

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But AIOs come with fans lmao

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:03 AM

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im buying more for exhaust ok

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I thought we were having a discussion about AIOs?

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I am but I also want to buy extra fans so I can stick them on exhaust duty

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I don't mean to move goalposts, it's more of a tangent

hollow thorn Apr 26, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Eh, I don't quite like most AIOs. Too expensive and most don't look that great.

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I just find non-rgb white Corsair AIOs to be nice, if you're going to splurge anyways.

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Idrc what you buy for looks

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Its your opinion on whether or not it looks good

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I don't care for the unicorn puke side of RGB, I'm grabbing lighting to match my other stuff, which is mostly black and red

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also @long geyser I just checked, even including Amazon, that MP600 is the cheapest 1TB gen4 available, since everything else in your parametric filter is around $340

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:21 AM

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oh wow, prices change fast. Just a few hours ago it was S50

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:22 AM

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yeah the XPG GAMMIX S50 is $339 now

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and thank the lord that everyone seems to have RM650xs in stock; I don't need 750W and an RM650x while still pricey is more in line with what I actually need

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/NebulonRanger/saved/2GTqpg more expensive board, but the x570 tuf gaming plus is a known great board so I'm okay with the cost

Ryzen Overkill Asus

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Not going for the wifi version for two reason:

lol why does a wifi chip cost $30 extra
I don't use wifi on my current rig, instead I have a 100ft cat6a cable from my room to the router

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Apart from colors there really isnt any difference between the Phantom Gaming and the TUF

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So no reason to get it for "quality" reasons

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:31 AM

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That's good to know

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mobos aren't really my area of expertise haha

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:31 AM

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actually wait

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custom watercooling is like $380 CAD total

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can be gotten for like $360

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for CPU+GPU loop

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with 240mm+120mm, also RGB

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:32 AM

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🤔

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:32 AM

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR&algo_pvid=783cb4ea-1639-4827-a307-a52670764bd7&algo_expid=783cb4ea-1639-4827-a307-a52670764bd7-19&btsid=a99ff845-d92b-428d-9189-cede1ac1d909&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_55

aliexpress.com

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Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

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I can 100% say it works well, given I already have gotten one before

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cheaper then your AIO+RGB fans thing

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for arguably better perf on noise normalized temps (esp on GPU)

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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that shipping is a pretty big yikes but it's aliexpress so this is expected

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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well base cost is very cheap

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brings total cost to decently cheap

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360mm + 240mm is 405 CAD total, and taxes are weird and either included in price or not included at all

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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yeah, again this is aliexpress

devout mothBOT Apr 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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NotWD#4882 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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F

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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F

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profanity is so much a part of my lexicon that it just slips out sometimes

long geyser Apr 26, 2020, 6:37 AM

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anyways, if you want custom, I highly suggest this

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 6:37 AM

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For its cost, I'll definitely consider it

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especially considering also how damned expensive EKWB and especially HydroX kits are

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$500 for an XC7 kit if you can find any stock. thanks but no thanks corsair

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I wish I could zoom in further on the program kit images, because holy these images are for ants

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 1:40 PM

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So j in be been going through my logs and I’m seeing tons of DCOM error 10016 is this what cause my computer to restart it seems to send the warning at the times of the random restarts

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I’ve

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I’m also looking more into and seeing service control manager error where the dhcp service randomly terminates event id 7034 also a couple errors for event id 7023 Nvidia localsystem container service terminated and a couple 6008 unknown shutdown

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Sorry I’m spamming this chat but I’m just trying to get to the Bottom of this ive already ran tests and other possible solutions and still having the same problem

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Event id 41 error not clean shutdown

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Also another culprit

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 1:51 PM

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now, start googling them

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and dont panic about what you find

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Ok thanks @gritty meadow

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I’m currently playing and waiting for it to restart and check the code at the time it restarts to confirm my suspicions on one of them

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 2:07 PM

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you are very welcome, and best of luck

stiff kraken Apr 26, 2020, 4:10 PM

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hey friends

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3733mhz 18-20-20-40 vs 3600mhz 17-19-19-39

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which one is better

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nvm, my ram booted with 3600 17-19-19-39 but cpu-z showed 18-19-19-39 for some reason

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guess I will stick to 3733 cl18

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also my CPU is running at 1.325V in cinebench with PBO on, auto scalar, and no override, but I've heard that voltage is unsafe on zen 2

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but that's PBO should it be ok?

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I guess my computer doesn’t want to do the restart bs anymore

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Even though I was ready this time to fix it

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Computer gaming is mint lmao

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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pat yourself on the back and cross everything you own and hope it doesnt come back

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and i wish that was a joke

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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It probably will thanks it’s done this on and off for a year and a half now

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So at least I’m ready

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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:)

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and your learned something on the way, so its not a total loss :)

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Yea that is true this chat has helped me a lot

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I guess worth the eight hour response from Newegg lmao

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One more question I forget who but someone told me trident z does not work with rgb fusion would this explain my ram doing its own thing

gritty meadow Apr 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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no idea

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i dont do RGB stuff if i can avoid it

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Yea I’m trying to now too

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But pretty much all components I have, have it

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Too many wires controllers and softwares= a huge pain

nimble olive Apr 26, 2020, 5:06 PM

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It was probably an overheating issue

olive umbra Apr 26, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yeah the wires problem is why I really like Fractal's Prisma fans, since you can daisy chain the RGB and have only one wire to the board as a result

jagged tendon Apr 27, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Hey all! I've made a few minor upgrades to my PC to help with performance a little bit (it's a Dell XPS 8700), but one thing that's been bothering me for a while is my internet speed. I switched a few months ago to have 400 down/50 up, but even plugged with an ethernet my PC caps at 50 down/40 up. At first I panicked a little bit and thought it was my provider that hadn't bumped my internet, but I tested it on my PS4 and laptop and both get the full 400/50. So I started thinking about getting a NIC card, but now I'm reading that it's actually the motherboard that caps the speed. Anyone have the solution? Is it really the motherboard, or can a NIC card increase my speed? Thanks!

daring patio Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Whats a Good 3000/3200/3600 Ram that could OC?

warped scroll Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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You planning to OC to 3200ish MHz or overclock from 3200ish MHz?

daring patio Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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overclock from

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to 3600

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@warped scroll

warped scroll Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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So you want to overclock from 3200MHz to 3600MHz?

daring patio Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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yes

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Im thinking the https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BxTzK8/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k8g32c16u4b rn

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

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@warped scroll

warped scroll Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Im not very familiar with memory OCing but that looks fine

daring patio Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Or OC from 3000 to 3200+ is also great

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k?

warped scroll Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Make sure your motherboard supports it

daring patio Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Got it thx

teal sundial Apr 27, 2020, 2:55 AM

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What’s a gpu cpu combo for fortnite at 1080p 200fps while playing 60 on my stream other games I play are gta apex valorant etc

warped scroll Apr 27, 2020, 3:31 AM

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1600 AF plus 1650 super maybe.
That’s if you’re okay playing at 1080p low settings.
Why do you even need to be at 200fps? 144 is high enough for pretty much everyone

midnight pollen Apr 27, 2020, 3:45 AM

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I'd actually go with something more like 2060 super for fortnite 200fps, might have to turn down some settings as with every competitive game

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definitely nvidia for streaming tho on the gpu

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cpu I'd go at least ryzen 3600 if you can

midnight chasm Apr 27, 2020, 4:07 AM

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depends on the budget for sure

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i would try to go as high end as you can for streaming

naive pendant Apr 27, 2020, 4:02 PM

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my dragon center does not show user scenario. does anyone know a fix?

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@naive pendant do you have valorant installed?

naive pendant Apr 27, 2020, 4:28 PM

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yes

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@hollow thorn yes i do why

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 4:29 PM

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For some reason, when I have valorant installed, user scenario just disappears. Try uninstalling valorant.

naive pendant Apr 27, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ok ill see

muted roost Apr 27, 2020, 4:30 PM

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~~valorant bad~~

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 4:30 PM

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(and thats the exact reason why I really dislike valorant's anticheat)

naive pendant Apr 27, 2020, 4:30 PM

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its only 8gb anyways

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i really dont care about the anticheat cus idk take my 1$ out my debit lol but it dont let me tweak my fan speed wtf

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wait valorant is only 2gb?

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@hollow thorn its still not there

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im restartin it rn

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i just uninstalled it tho

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restarting

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Wait till after restart

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Oh yea make sure you uninstall the anticheat along with the game, it showed up as 2 diff apps when I was uninstalling it @naive pendant

naive pendant Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 PM

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i forgot to uninstall vanguard

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its back

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tysmh @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 4:42 PM

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yw

manic cosmos Apr 27, 2020, 9:23 PM

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hey guys i recently started my first pc build and i have the phanteks p400a case which i love and i really enjoy building with it but the fans have 3 ping DRGB yes DRGB connectors on them, but the motherboard i have (the MSIB450 tomahawk max) only has 4 pin input slots, is there anyway i can get the LEDs to plug in, like is there an adapter or fan hub i need to buy???

celest cradle Apr 27, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Hey everyone, so I have an x570 taichi motherboard and I just put in a 3900x. The bios that was on it was 2.80 and after I put in the new cpu the bios somehow rolled itself back to 2.10. Does anyone know why this happened? I know this board isn't dual bios so I am kind of stumped. I'm not having any issues and everything seems fine, just wondering if there are any ideas. Thanks.

placid dagger Apr 27, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Never heard of that, before.

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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@celest cradle how did you know that the bios on it before was 2.80?

celest cradle Apr 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@hollow thorn Because I had a 2700x in there with that bios

hollow thorn Apr 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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not sure then

daring patio Apr 28, 2020, 12:25 AM

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@manic cosmos I don’t think you have to plug them in

deft sapphire Apr 28, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Hey guys I'm in need of help with my ram not being able to run in dual channel. I'm using a MSI MPG Gaming Pro Carbon AC mobo with G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200mhz 16gb (2x8gb) dual channel ram. I've tried just about anything referred to me and nothing. Even replaced the ram and mobo. Is theres something I'm missing? The pc will boot up with either ram on DimmB2 but not DimmA2 and DimmB2 which is what the mobo manual says is the dual channel configuration.
I've tried checking my cpu socket pins, making sure I have even pressure with the cpu cooler, updating bios, clearing cmos, then updating bios again, installing all drivers, nothing so far. Just the same problem. Any help is appreciated.

tiny jetty Apr 28, 2020, 10:00 AM

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does anyone know of a good ATX B450 mobo that's white?

copper solar Apr 28, 2020, 10:01 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM @tiny jetty

B450M MORTAR TITANIUM | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboa...

tiny jetty Apr 28, 2020, 10:05 AM

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looks MATX unfortunately, might have to look at x470 then

copper solar Apr 28, 2020, 10:05 AM

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FeelsBadMan

ionic hamlet Apr 28, 2020, 10:08 AM

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MATX will still fit in a standard ATX case

tiny jetty Apr 28, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I'm aware, I'm just a fan of the aesthetic of the motherboard extending all the way to the PSU shroud

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looks like I am going to have to go MATX though

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Question: I have an older mobo and i'm wondering if i can just put DDR4 memory into it and get rid of the 16gb of ddr3 i have. this is my current mobo. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-990fxa-ud3/p/N82E16813128514?Item=N82E16813128514 looking ot get a ne wvideo card an dfigured i'd order memory too

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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DDR4 isn't backwards compatible

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If you want DDR4 you'll have to upgrade your mobo

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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all right thanks

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starting to think i'll have to change out every part... fx 4350, 16gb ram, the psu, getting a new video card now. power color 5700.

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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to be fair, those are not exactly new parts :)

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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to be fair, those are not exactly new parts :)
@gritty meadow yeah. built it back in like 2015 i believe with older parts. kept price way down. its a trade desk. not graphic intensive task. but quarantine has me playing modern warfare lol

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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:)

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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keep getting an error after a while that crashes it so i figured my video card is very old and weak so upgrade that and see

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worse case i upgrade everything and keep the upgraded video card in there too

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

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there is a good chance that your PSU will complain about the 5700

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because depending on what you have in there right now, it will pull a fair deal more power

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yeah i thought so too. used the newegg calculator and it says its way less than what the product page says

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550

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calculator with all my stuff said 416w.

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

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calculators are prone to mistakes imo

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but that is a side topic :)

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yeah. thinking that too. lol

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whats the worse thing that happens? it just shuts off right? it wouldnt become destructive with power color 5700 in there

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 5:17 PM

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it might just not boot

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:17 PM

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maybe i should just upgrade everything lol... was hoping not to but yeah

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ahhh ok

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Thanks for your input @gritty meadow much appreciated. will have to consider getting new cpu and mobo too... and ram... poop

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 5:19 PM

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you are very welcome :) and best of luck :)

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 5:19 PM

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thanks!

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I'd recommend ROG mobos (at least over Gigabyte)
Or tuff gaming for lower end

long geyser Apr 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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ROG has mostly become a name brand with no real quality improvement over other things, but with a price premium

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Well, I just say that because I went Gigabyte and ended up returning because I hate their software

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Also, ROG has iCue integration 🤷‍♂️

long geyser Apr 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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The latter is.... Eh. Corsair stuff, apart from their PSUs, are just overpriced.

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Yeah, but it comes down to preference. I really like corsair service and their products (iCue is actually pretty nice), so I'm willing to cash out a little more

plush timber Apr 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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appreciate it

long geyser Apr 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I can't see it as ideal. Their mice seem to have high failure rates (based on experience and reviews). May have been a more one off thing but seems like their keyboards don't last as long as they use to. Their RGB fans are just... Overpriced by about 4.5x. Not kidding there either.

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Headsets... You'd be better with an actual set of headphones + seperate mic

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Everything by itself seems like a small or smallish tradeoff. But all together the trade off seems quite large for Corsair

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I totally agree with the point on headsets and RGB fans (still bought 6 tho). And I regret buying a mousepad that doesn't have both full wireless charging and RGB

But they have great customer service from what I see. I really can't say anything about longevity as I haven't had any corsair products for longer than a month. Mainly I just went corsair because of the simple ecosystem and service

tight sand Apr 28, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Hi, I got a ryzen 5 3600x and considering a budget x570 motherboard, any suggestions please? this is going to be my first build so I'm not really expert.

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Generally agreed that you get the cheapest board that has the features you want. Anything from a reputable brand should be fine, though I like ROG. You can pay more for RGB and stuff but that's preference

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@tight sand https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi <- solid enough board

Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

tight sand Apr 28, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@supple monolith Yes that what I'm thinking, and the extra money saved I will put it in a good gpu like RTX, Thanks!

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@gritty meadow I saw this one and the price seems fair, what about the one without wifi? because I actually don't need wifi, are the features going to be different? I don't think but I prefer to confirm from you guys.

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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there is one that is the exact same price without wifi, and yes, wifi is the difference

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so take which ever you want really :)

tight sand Apr 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Okay, thank you both @gritty meadow and @supple monolith

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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you are very welcome :) best of luck with your build, if you want to have input on your complete list, swing by #building-and-recc-chat and post it there :)

tight sand Apr 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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ok 🙂

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 8:24 PM

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You're welcome 🙂
Good luck

tender robin Apr 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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thoughts on i5 9600k?

midnight pollen Apr 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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AMD

arctic barn Apr 28, 2020, 9:24 PM

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New here and i had a question. Does anyone know what kind of memory goes with an AMD FX-8320? It's what i have with just one stick, and i am looking to add more ram if anyone can help!:D

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 9:24 PM

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What motherboard?

arctic barn Apr 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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GIGABYTE 970A-DS3P

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@arctic barn ddr3

arctic barn Apr 28, 2020, 9:25 PM

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is there a certain hz or pin number for it? like 1600hz or 240 pin?

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 9:26 PM

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if you want to figure out what specific ram you have right now, i recommend grabbing cpu-z and having a look there

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time mea...

hollow thorn Apr 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

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(Memory frequency is usually measured in mhz, not hz.)

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Higher frequency (mhz) is better, but you motherboard/cpu might not be able to take advantage of super high speed ones. Like the PC I am using right now will only go up 1800 mhz

arctic barn Apr 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

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New to the computer building scene and that looks helpful! All the help is greeatly appreciated

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 9:28 PM

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your board realistically tops out at 1886

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but, go with that the current stick says in cpu-z

hollow thorn Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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And iirc 240 pin dimm are DDR3, 288 pin are DDR4.

supple monolith Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Also it's best to get matching sets of ram

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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correct @hollow thorn

arctic barn Apr 28, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Thank you guys so much!:D

queen crest Apr 28, 2020, 10:36 PM

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yo, should i get a b450 mobo or a x570, im a bit stuck

urban ferry Apr 28, 2020, 10:51 PM

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what processor @queen crest ?

queen crest Apr 28, 2020, 11:18 PM

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ryzen 7 3700x

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im going with the asus tuf gaming x570-plus becuase i need a wifi mobo cuz the room that i am in does not have acces top wired wifi

urban ferry Apr 28, 2020, 11:22 PM

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could always get a mobo plus a wifi card

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but id recommend x570 for that CPU anyways

gritty meadow Apr 28, 2020, 11:23 PM

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the x570 boards with wifi are equal in price to non-wifi x570's

visual gulch Apr 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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X570 gets a lot of unnecessary hate. I got told that $200 was too expensive and that I should get a cheap B450 instead lol

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Wifi is only like $10-20 extra on some boards

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I have a Netgear A6210 which is okay, but the Win10 drivers for it are crap and I hate that it takes up a USB port. Seems fine under Linux though

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Now the flagship X570s are hideous and rediculously expensive

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Everybody hates on the PCIE4, which I agree is pretty useless for most people. But that's a decent trade off for some of the extra features. Being able to run a second m.2 without losing SATA ports is nice

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I like the idea of management writing the engineers a blank check though

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cough, gigabyte x570

visual gulch Apr 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Any one in particular? Or all of them?

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I miss the old school stuff that didn't have all of the "armor" and obnoxious crap printed all over.

tacit hemlock Apr 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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What does pcie 4.0 offer anyway?

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 1:13 AM

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The x570 aorus xtreme is very "extra" , though I wish other board used a heatpipe chipset cooler

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4.0 bandwidth is double 3.0 per lane

tacit hemlock Apr 29, 2020, 1:15 AM

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In what cases is 4.0 useful

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Storage / large file transfer or general workstation stuff- https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Does-PCIe-Gen4-improve-GPU-performance-in-video-editing-apps-1565/

Puget Systems

Does PCIe Gen4 improve GPU performance in video editing apps?

PCIe Gen4 is finally here with twice the theoretical bandwidth of PCIe Gen3. But with the current Gen4 motherboards and video cards, does the extra bandwidth actually matter for video editing applications like Premiere Pro, After Effects, and DaVinci Resolve?

tacit hemlock Apr 29, 2020, 1:19 AM

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So not gpu then?

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Nvm i read the link

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Thx

boreal lance Apr 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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im getting an r5 3600 tomorrow but cant get my hands on a b450 tomahawk max. what yall suggest?

gritty meadow Apr 29, 2020, 3:19 AM

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b450m pro gaming @boreal lance

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for a "not trying to oc the pants of the cpu" build, it is a better board on all fronts

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also cheaper

near moat Apr 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Looking to get a R 3600x and a RTX 2070 super. was wondering if the B450 tomahawk max had bluetooth?

spring terrace Apr 29, 2020, 11:59 AM

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will a hynix die set of ram have any trouble reaching xmp speeds on a x570 board?

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i heard d-die wasn't that good

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i won't be doing any oc btw, i just want it to run at xmp speeds and that's all

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it says that it's compatible with x570 on the manufacturer's website so i'm pretty sure it will all run fine, but i just want to be 100% sure

spring terrace Apr 29, 2020, 12:47 PM

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my ram kit is F4-3200C16D-32GVK btw

hollow thorn Apr 29, 2020, 2:05 PM

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@spring terrace they'll run at advertised speeds fine. I got F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC.

misty pivot Apr 29, 2020, 3:54 PM

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what is a better compatible cpu with my pc, the current cpu is a core 2 duo E8400

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Q6600.
But that's an awful upgrade option because it's a very old platform.
I recommend upgrading to a $200-600 build if/when you can.
E8400' sell for 25 cents a piece on ebay.

ionic hamlet Apr 29, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I don't even recognize that model, so it must be ancient.

misty pivot Apr 29, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Okie

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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can someone explain to me what this means exactly?

devout mothBOT Apr 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Spanky#3953 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

quaint current Apr 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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thats all the memory speed/types it supports

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I had 3600mhz RAM and it was causing my pc to repeatedly crash according to the guy at my PC Shop

gritty meadow Apr 29, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@noble jewel memory controller is dependent on the specific generation/family of CPU that is being used (thats the Matisse part you see)

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:53 PM

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right, but is that saying the fastest ram the MOBO supports is 3200mhz without making some sort of advanced changes @quaint current

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my ram was matisse though, so shouldnt i just be able to plug in 3600mhz RAM with no issues?

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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The mobo rarely has a definitive limit on ram speed - more of a practical one

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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bc he said he put in same GB of ram but lower speed and it is working just fine now

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Depends on the model of the cpu, ram, settings.

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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so idk if RAM itself was just bad or is it the speed

gritty meadow Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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its not your "ram" that is Matisse, its the CPU itself that is from the Matisse family @noble jewel

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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ah ok

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:55 PM

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If you're running ryzen 3rd gen, and don't want to OC for the sake of the hobby, don't buy >3600 mhz

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:55 PM

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my setup is: Ryzen 3600, asrock x570 pro4

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RAM that was apparently messing up PC was 3600mgz Corsair LPX vengeance

quaint current Apr 29, 2020, 4:55 PM

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3200mhz is the highest it supports without oc'ing, but xmp (technically an oc) allows the ram to run at the higher advertised speeds

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but i dont really know the technically stuff so i could of gotten it all wrong

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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so it is likely that the ram sticks themselves were faulty - not bc they were too fast (based on that screenshot i sent)

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is that your understanding?

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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You're a better tech than the tech

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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and no worries im not technical either haha

quaint current Apr 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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i'd assume

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ok thanks

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im just debating on what to do

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bc i got an x570 to splurge and have some future proofing

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so if i cant run 3600 mhz ram its like wtf you know?

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but i got it from amazon so its an easy refund/return

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Just enable XMP during setup, good to go from there

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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i just dont want to buy 3600mhz again and have the same issue if its a speed thing. but if the ram itself is crap then i will just get a similar ram with 3600mhz

ionic hamlet Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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You got the faster RAM returned to you?

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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i only have one ram

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the corsair 3600mhz

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Also - can always just run said ram at a manually lower speed

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 4:58 PM

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but the guy at the shop tested some 3000mhz ram and said it works like a charm now

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so im thinking 1. the ram i got was just faulty/dud or 2. MOBO just doesnt support that speed/brand/model very well

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Good sticks https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/gac28m/ram_crucial_ballistix_16gb_2_x_8gb_ddr4_3600_9299/

r/buildapcsales - [RAM] Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 ...

0 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

quaint current Apr 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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the highest supported speed for third gen is 3200, (just enable xmp to get it running over that without issues), its an issue with the ram sticks

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 5:02 PM

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base speed?

quaint current Apr 29, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yeah dunno what i wrote there

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 5:04 PM

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The sticks will run at whatever JDEC stock speed the SPD chip on the stick tells the mobo to run them at.
XMP speeds/timings/voltage data is stored there as well.

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 5:04 PM

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so based on the screenshot from my mobo motherboard

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i should be 100% fine to run at 3600mhz?

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just need to change the basic settings in the BIOS page

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I actually have these sticks, similar to the above, look cooler? I guess - both are Micron Rev.E
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164149

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99 on the latter set is the lowest price I've seen since prime day, (same price)

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 5:09 PM

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is 3200 mhz good enough?

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Bc i just really want this to be over with haha so if i can just buy what he has at the store for a price that is not crazy i will probably just do it

midnight pollen Apr 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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3200 is fine, but the timings also matter

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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If $100 is fine, get those elites, if it's not, I'd go for a cheaper 3600 18 22 22 42 kit

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 5:21 PM

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never understood what timings are

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is it lower the better or?

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 5:22 PM

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yes

noble jewel Apr 29, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ok ty

tacit hemlock Apr 29, 2020, 6:22 PM

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What ram speed would you recommend for a 1600 af

charred venture Apr 29, 2020, 6:24 PM

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3200 probably?

mild jackal Apr 29, 2020, 6:25 PM

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scroll down to see popular picks https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/563877/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-Six-Core-Processor

tacit hemlock Apr 29, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Ok 👌

brave trellis Apr 29, 2020, 10:15 PM

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anyone have any recommandtions for am4? like motherboard wise

long geyser Apr 29, 2020, 10:16 PM

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depends on your needs

warped scroll Apr 29, 2020, 10:16 PM

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1st, second, or 3rd gen Ryzen?

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Here are my favorites: B450M PRO4 and B450M Steel Legend

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I'm an ASRock fanboy

brave trellis Apr 29, 2020, 10:17 PM

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it would be 2nd gen

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ryzen

warped scroll Apr 29, 2020, 10:18 PM

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CPU TDP?

brave trellis Apr 29, 2020, 10:18 PM

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65

warped scroll Apr 29, 2020, 10:18 PM

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B450M-HDV R4.0 if you're gonna stick with 65w for a while

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It's a basic board with basic features. Wouldn't overclock on it though

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B450(M) Pro4 is basically an upgraded HDV

long geyser Apr 29, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Steel Legend is overpriced and just meh tho

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Pro4 is sometimes an alright choice, if the price is right

warped scroll Apr 29, 2020, 10:21 PM

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If you can get Steel legend on sale it's really nice especially with the looks

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Got the one I have in my build on sale

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Isn't steel legend just like a really decked out pro4?

long geyser Apr 29, 2020, 10:25 PM

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just same thing basically

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but the Steel legend goes on sale for same price as TUF Pro

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which has mostly same specs except better sound chip

brave trellis Apr 29, 2020, 10:28 PM

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The first option really helps with my buget, So I might stick with that

long geyser Apr 29, 2020, 10:28 PM

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or if you're looking at Pro4/Legend mATX then M2_2 is only SATA

brave trellis Apr 29, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I see

tacit plaza Apr 29, 2020, 11:26 PM

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what are your guys thoughts on a ryzen 7 3700x and an Asus TUF gaming x570-plus mobo

vital moon Apr 30, 2020, 1:26 AM

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What are your opinions on the mobo MSI B450 Tomahawk? I've heard bad reviews but I get suggested that It's actually good.

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@tacit plaza sounds like a good pair. My old pc had the Asus Tuf but It got fried by my PSU so : (

tacit plaza Apr 30, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I’ve thought about the tomahawk I’ve heard overall it’s good. What kind of PSU did you get I’m planning on getting 650w

vestal sandal Apr 30, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I just picked up a fractal design ion+ 660 for about 110

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on amazon

long geyser Apr 30, 2020, 2:12 AM

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@vital moon @tacit plaza b450 Tomahawk isnt that great. Bad sound chip, less M2/PCIe slots, worse network chip, lack of WiFi, etc compared to boards at same price, and half of those points compared to even boards that're cheaper then Tomahawk

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x570 Asus TUF is pretty decent. Tho if you dont need WiFi then just getting the x570 AsRock Phantom Gaming 4 is good enough, and cheaper usually

left root Apr 30, 2020, 5:39 AM

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is the gigabyte x570 gaming x

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good

warm path Apr 30, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Yes, I would say so

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@left root

trail gate Apr 30, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Hi i ordered from newegg my first build and just received it, i would need someone that can tell me will i face any problems during the build?
My build is
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
CPU Cooler: Wraith Prism (Stock)
MotherBoard: ROG STRIX B450-F gaming
Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB 3200Mhz
Case: Nzxt H510 Elite White
VGA Card: ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8G OC+
PSU: Corsair RM 750W Gold
Storage: Intel 660p Series M.2 1TB
PCpart picker says that i might need to update my bios is that correct?

warm path Apr 30, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@trail gate

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You are good to go

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Just update bios to ensure you get full support for your CPU

trail gate Apr 30, 2020, 9:51 AM

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But is it ok to build it without updating it?
It says in the package Ryzen 3000 desktop ready

muted roost Apr 30, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Then it’s already updated

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2 hours late but it’s fine to build it

dawn wraith Apr 30, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Would upgrading from a 8086k to a 9900k be worth it? I play at 1440p high on a 120hz monitor.

tacit plaza Apr 30, 2020, 5:09 PM

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The Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

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Will i be fine?

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this was the warning new egg gave me

gritty meadow Apr 30, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@tacit plaza generally yes

gritty meadow Apr 30, 2020, 7:40 PM

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oh heck, those 490 chipset boards are just taking a wee on consumers

quaint current Apr 30, 2020, 8:07 PM

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dont @ me but the waterforce board looks hella ugly

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📎 Z49020AORUS20XTREME20WATERFORCE20vs20XTREME_575px.png

mild jackal Apr 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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chonk

gritty meadow Apr 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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it better be, at 1200 usd

long geyser Apr 30, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Too much armor

mild jackal Apr 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Condensation magnet

gritty meadow Apr 30, 2020, 9:29 PM

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(must resist commenting on the loop shape on the chipset)

midnight pollen Apr 30, 2020, 9:54 PM

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thicc

warm scroll Apr 30, 2020, 11:11 PM

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dang boi

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he thicc

rough citrus Apr 30, 2020, 11:17 PM

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ordered a gigabyte x570 elite wifi, 3700x and a diyit pc mirage argb case

wraith plover Apr 30, 2020, 11:57 PM

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seems the MSI MEG X570 Unify is out most everywhere atm 😦

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3rd parties have it on the egg, but that's about it...

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had to settle for the X570 Gaming Pro Carbon (I'm on the X470 version now)

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or had been before the BIOS chip crapped the bed

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asrock taichi was out everywhere too

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had considered that as an option

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asus x570 options were either hard to find or inflated pricing >.<

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I actually really like the unify for higher end x570 board :(

wraith plover May 1, 2020, 12:04 AM

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yeah I looked at it as a midrange tbh

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considering the upper end of the X570 line

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but for ~$300 it's a nice board and I like the aesthetic

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I don't need all the RGB shmancy stuffs lol

zealous storm May 1, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Little bit curious

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What's the real benefit between going 3600x instead of 3600

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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barely anything

zealous storm May 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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The cooler doesn't matter since I will be using a 3rd party cooler anyways

wraith plover May 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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better binning, I guess?

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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technically there is a bit of boost room, but if you are willing to adjust the software, it is basically the same chip

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its a question of TDP limit really

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on eis 65 and the other is 95 watt iirc

zealous storm May 1, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Ic, Nvm then I'll stick to the 3600

pure copper May 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Hello , I was wondering if anyone knows whether the B450 MB come with updated BIOS for zen2

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Which b450?

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Do you have a specific board in mind or just all b450 boards?

vestal sandal May 1, 2020, 2:57 AM

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are there any x570 boards with the 24-pin power going parrallel to the motherboard tray, other than the Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme?

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it's a beautiful board, but is super expensive

long geyser May 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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@vestal sandal What about this?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000079935335.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.100009.1.187f5f179SznSy

aliexpress.com

US $5.58 15% OFF|FormulaMod Fm PCI/ATX/USB, Interface Direction Cha...

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

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If you need all of them then I think there is another kit on Ali somewhere

vestal sandal May 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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those actually look somewhat decent

daring patio May 1, 2020, 3:35 AM

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is this a good deal? https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3958691&Description=amd bundle

left root May 1, 2020, 3:48 AM

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this is really important

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the gigabyte x570 gaming x

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it dosent show it supports 3600 ram speed

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what do i do

vestal sandal May 1, 2020, 4:03 AM

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qvl list for matisse chips shows ram sticks going up to 4000

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what cpu/ram are you using? do you have the specific model # for that kit of ram?

plush timber May 1, 2020, 1:27 PM

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I'm curious if theres anyway to fine tune the FX 4350 b/c with the activity monitor open showing performance, the processor is at 99% all the time now

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lol and just as i type that it asys 15% ... ok

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Do any of you recommend any of the newegg cpu combo deals? I think I saw one that was a ryzen 7 with mobo. i check every day to try and upgrade this thing

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I have a question about my current (older) MoBo, and possible CPU upgrades. I have the MSI B85-G41 and a i5 4690k on it. According to msi's website, this board supports 4th gen intel and I can upgrade to an i7 at the most. Does the mean I can only stick to 4th gen cpus, or can I go to 5th gen or higher?

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:25 PM

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@queen tusk It's an LGA-1150 socket, so you can only install an 1150 CPU. The B85 chipset supports Haswell refresh CPUs, and not Broadwell. This means your highest upgrade is an i7-4790K. I have the i7-4790 non K. It's a great quad core CPU, doing better than early Ryzen 7s in single threaded tasks, but obviously not in multithreading. My 4790 is on a Lenovo H81 board. Not my choice, but I'm going to live with it, as getting an old Haswell board isn't viable (prices are wack), and I don't really fancy buying a newer Haswell board from a random Chinese brand, even though it isn't likely an unreliable option. For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)_

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:25 PM

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@plush timber budget?

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Reee

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Reee?

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Put a space before the second >

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I'm trying to remove the massive previews properly lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It's counting it as a part of the URL

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You can remove the preview

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There's an x

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And it's like remove preview for everyone

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@hollow thorn I'm not sure. was hoping to keep the budget down but get somethign at least recent. i'm working with an fx 4350 and just got a 5700 video card heh. I figure maybe 500-600 for the processor mobo and ram?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Oh, that gives you a lot of room to just buy stuff new I'd say

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How much ram do you think you need?

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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oh doe sit? my PSU is a 550w sea sonic that has been awesome this whole time. everything relaly has but windows but it feels like its struggling. I have 4 screens and right lightspeed trader for hours at a time. i have to reboot if i want to run modern warfare

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i'd watn at least 16gb but was looking to go for 32gb

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Fair enough, do you do much other than gaming?

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(on the computer)

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i only trade and just got COD MW so thats about it. maybe in the future i'll buy another game but not really that much of a gamer. just lockdown and all

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Like what else do you do on your computer? Video editing, sound engineer, etc?

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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nope

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was strictly a trade station

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Also, any preferred method of cooling the CPU?

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i just use the standard fan

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my case cpu and video fans are decently quiet

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Ryzen CPUs come with pretty good stock coolers so that should be ok

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:35 PM

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nice nice. i dont know the difference between the ryzens. i was lookign at a combo for the 7 3700x. Also the pins on ram. no clue lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I think the 3600 should be good enough for you, I don't think you'll have any use for the 2 extra cores lol

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but here as an example
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTsk9G
Overkill on the mobo, overkill on the ram, just 500$.

System Builder

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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ooo thanks.

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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And if you want to upgrade PSU, rn most are out of stock, maybe if Rmx is on sale or something you can snag one of those

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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how's that 3600 compare to the fx 4350? lol i mean generationally will it be bogged down by the 4 screens?

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rmx. copy

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I hate to use userbenchmark but this should give you a sense
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-FX-4350/4040vs2880

UserBenchmark: AMD FX-4350 vs Ryzen 5 3600

Based on 238,854 user benchmarks for the AMD FX-4350 and the Ryzen 5 3600, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,221 CPUs.

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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are there any combo's on newegg that are worth a peak?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I'll take a look

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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ohh righ tthat site. forgot about it. thanks again

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lol @ "hugely faster" everything

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i see G.skill a lot. are they that good?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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They are very good

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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and thanks again for your help

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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very

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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cool. cool. so this combo i had. let me see if i can bring it up

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Also, if you're looking for PSUs, use this tier list, anything A tier and above are great.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

PSU Tier List 4.0

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 12.4 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 12-04-2020 Tiering of various units is opinion based off repu...

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Many are either out of stock or too high price right now due to corona

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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nevermind it left my cart lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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aw rip

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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ooo thanks

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oh thats another thing

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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thanks @split copper ya just gave me all the info i need to not upgrade my cpu, but instead board the ryzen 5 3600 train

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Nice

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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with all these parts you mentioned and my 1tb hybrid drive and the power color 5700 will i need to upgrade my psu? using newegg calculator says i wont

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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You don't need to

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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ty. lol needed definitive yes or no lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Only upgrade if you think your PSU is reaching the end of the days

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Fair enough.

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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how would i tell that? its quiet and seems to be ok. handled the powe routages other night

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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well for almost hte same price to upgrade to the i7 i can almost get https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m86BsZ

System Builder

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I'm not too sure lol

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Squirrel try this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h8xXp8

System Builder

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Yeah Intel tax is real

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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so ryzen 5 is still light yeras faster than my current chip BUT i dont need the ryzen 7 b/c i'm not handling a lot. Can the 5 handle modern warfare with th e5700 to at least give me better graphics and game play? lol hard enough seeing people as it is

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Even for 5/6 year old part

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yea

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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oh nice, no compatibility issue!

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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you guys brin gup those links like it snothing. i keep clicking out of curiosity but its same lol

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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thanks @hollow thorn

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Lol

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You're welcome

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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ohh heres another question. ATX vs micro atx? i think my current mobo is micro atx

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@queen tusk They're starting to get rid of the warnings for boards now

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It used to be all B450 boards gave that warning p

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553018?Item=N82E16811553018 this is my current case

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I noticed that in the past few days..

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Well, it's an ATX case, I don't see why not putting an ATX board in that case

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mATX sometimes saves you money, but not much difference

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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copy that. thanks

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just little room right?

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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what really grinds my gears is i made the decision to get teh $399 2060 super 8g from best buy and was in stock last night, sold out this morning when i went to purchase. shot me right in the feels.

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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mATX usually just shave some of the space off and sometimes get rid of some of the ports

📎 iu.png

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that should show you the size difference

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:47 PM

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ohh i see

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lol @queen tusk

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thats a direct hit

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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rip

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lemme check if that one 2070 is still in stock for 400$

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Critical even. but i found two other 2060 super 8G by GIGABYTE for the same price, so faith restored

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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aw it's on preorder for some reason
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1542295-REG/msi_rtx_2070_ventus_gp.html

MSI GeForce RTX 2070 VENTUS GP Graphics Card

Buy MSI GeForce RTX 2070 VENTUS GP Graphics Card featuring 1410 MHz Core - Boostable to 1620 MHz, 2304 CUDA Cores, Turing Architecture, 8GB of GDDR6 VRAM, 14 Gb/s Memory Speed, 256-Bit Memory Interface, DisplayPort | HDMI, 7680 x 4320 Max Digital Resolution, Dual TORX 2.0 Fans...

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ah

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good

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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the ASUS mobo is good too eh?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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That Asus mobo is way more than enough, thats why I called it overkill

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It gives you Pcie 4.0, some wifi, and some premium feels

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You can definally move to a cheaper board if you want to save a buck

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But that's a great motherboard nonetheless

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I've never had an issue out of ASUS mobos in the past.

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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idk what people have against MSI, other than their abysmal x570 lineup, my MSI mobo is just chillin

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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awesome thanks

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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You're welcome

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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whats x570 for? i saw a b540 i think it was. i'm assuming speed rating?

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anything is going ot be faster than what i have now i'm sure

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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x570 is the more 'premium'/advanced version of b450.

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Not much real performance differences

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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ahh

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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They're different chipsets

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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oh?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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x570 usually comes with better VRMs, and comes with PCIe 4.0

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I'm generalising.

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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so a step down from this mobo but not into turd territory would be what? still asus?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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b450 tomahawk max right now

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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ohhh right gotcha

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vrms and pci 4

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I'd love to recommend the Asus tuf b450m pro but it's out of stock p

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oh wait

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one sec

split copper May 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM4#Chipsets

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I forgot the convo I had with hei last night

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Oh yea b450 is older

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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thas an interesting picture

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI

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That's a better board than the tomahawk max

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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so its older and a tad slower and vrm's down graded

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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also has wifi bc why not

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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i'm hardwired for trading. had my fair share of wifi or wireless internet slippage lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Fair enough

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But that is a better board than the tomahawk max, better sound chip and 2 m.2 slots

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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So if i get the 2060 super, would my current i5 4690k become the bottleneck? having serious issues settling on getting just a vid card (which in actuality i need) and buying mobo+cpu+ram+psu & video card. but that price..

plush timber May 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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hmm.. .looking

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i think i have a gigabyte board now. never had an issue

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i'm looking on newegg at the parts you gave me in that picker link.

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thanks again @hollow thorn

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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You're welcome

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i'll be back with more onc ei order these lol

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oh thats another thing. the pin's on ram

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Yea?

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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actually that ram you linked doesn say the pins. i kept seeing like 206 or 280 ping i think

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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240 pin is DDR3, 288 pin is DDR4

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DDR4 ram goes with the newer CPUs and motherboards

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that ram was ddr4

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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yeah. i saw different ddr4's. i cant find the page now. but you explained it. thanks yet again lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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oh yea theres like 260pin sodimm and like 204 pin sodimm, that's for laptops

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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ah

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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280 pin dimm is for desktop ddr4

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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copy that

split copper May 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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copy that

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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this is how I tried to label it

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split copper May 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Aw yeah

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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idrk 184 pin dimm tho

split copper May 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Raking in that 184 pin Double Data Rate

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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wait I think 184 pin is ddr

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yea

split copper May 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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That's what it says da_heck

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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what

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I wrote that

split copper May 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I kinda wanna max out the DDR and DDR2 slots on my old computers

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:17 PM

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nice thanks

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@hollow thorn so i clickd the picker and clicked th eprocessor to see th eoptions. was going to do it all on newegg but like 2 bucks cheaper on amazon the ni noticed it has a combo of processor and mobo... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VXC4JD6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

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oh thats on eyou mentioned before.

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o wait thats not the wifi one thats the elite

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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It's out of stock

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The cheaper option I mentioned is https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I said screw it.. and just purchased my 2060 super. at newegg even. I'm very excited about this. coming up from a dying gtx 980 classified..

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Should be a good performance increse

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:28 PM

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What would be a good cooler for a i9 9900k

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:28 PM

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nice nice @queen tusk

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 3:29 PM

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i do pretty decent on games now. but this dying card makes it hard to play with occasional hard crashes to the game/pc. If only the division 2 was more polished and didn't consume 70-90% cpu usage.. lol

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hoping the 2060 super will alleviate some of that

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:32 PM

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oh damn... 90%?

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with my performance chart my trading software is spiking my use up to 100%

queen tusk May 1, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I can see that, assume a lot of information in real-time can get intense

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:36 PM

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i guess but basic black background charts. hmm.. plus 4 screens bein gused. yeah ok that makes sens elol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:36 PM

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@tacit hemlock d15 :D

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@plush timber If you think your trading software benefits from more cores, you COULD get the 3700x if you believe that is worth it.

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But gaming it doesn't really matter between 3600 and 3700x

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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i'd assume gaming would be more intense on the hardware. but i think anything is better than wha ti have now

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i'll compare the 3600 and 3700

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I'm trying to help my friend with a build. He thinks that he can fit a i9 and a 2080 super in for under 1500 and idk how he got that idea in his head. So I'm trying to persuade him back to the ryzen 7 list I made. Thx for the suggestion @hollow thorn

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Lmao

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you can fit a ryzen 7 and 2080 super in under 1500 easily

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Ik and I sent him a very capable list

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He's going from a ps4 too 😂

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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lmfao

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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As if he'll be able to tell the difference between a r5 3600 and a i9 9900k anyway

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Ask him why i9

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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He doesn't know

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He thinks its the best

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Which tbh it probably is

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But not for what he's using it for

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Under the budget he has

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:43 PM

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This is one of the cheaper options for a full 9900k 2080s build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9VKYtp

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Nothing is loading for me

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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@tacit hemlock get em in this discord

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It's 1840$

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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He doesn't have discord

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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make then get discord >:D

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get hei in here

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I do like that list tho

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Lol

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I dont think he will because in all fairness, he asked me for help, not for me to refer him to other people for help

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Hei is the one guy that will rip someone apart until they go amd

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Lmao true

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 3:45 PM

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discord is amazing

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force them to get it

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Where did you find that case from @hollow thorn

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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well good news... just made enough to buy all those parts lol

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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hehe

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I thought it wasn't out yet

plush timber May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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well to pay fo r'em

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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TD 500 mesh

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2 weeks
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08412JPCH?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Thats awesome

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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seen a really nice be quiet case I want

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for around 109usd

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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500dx isnt in stock tho

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I was looking

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Ok i gtg now. I'll come back later for lunch probably tho

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Thx for the list

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:46 PM

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bai

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-be-quiet-pure-base-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-0037-00071

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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wtf

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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^ in stock

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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that wasnt in stock like 2 days ago

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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🙂

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:48 PM

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2 days ago

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weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:48 PM

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the white ver is 109

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really thinking about geting it

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but I want a bigger case 😦

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so I'm conflicted

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Coolermaster H500 ftw

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:51 PM

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hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I was talking this one but out of stocck still
https://www.newegg.com/gunmetal-cooler-master-mastercase-h500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119350

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in stock here tho
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterCase-Mid-Tower-Controller/dp/B07DRVHBWK/

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 3:53 PM

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been noticing a lot of stuff has been out of stock lately

plush timber May 1, 2020, 4:03 PM

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damn thats a nice case

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i like that be quiet one more i think. but damn those fans

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Yeah

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:15 PM

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lmao that just went out of stock

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which one of you bought it

weak hamlet May 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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😠

split copper May 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I wish my money was in stock lol when will it be back in stock

tacit hemlock May 1, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Lol

plush timber May 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@hollow thorn hey coul dyou help me find a mobo again? that one in th epicker is sold out at the two places that had it

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTsk9G

System Builder

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@plush timber you did actually need the wifi?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@gritty meadow no, x570 isn't required either.

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that was just a good board

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@plush timber This is in stock.
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@hollow thorn wrong board

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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wdym

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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his is the TUF Gaming x570

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I suggested this board earlier

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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see what he linked :)

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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oh wait he went back to the x570

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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so some wires have been crossed somewhere :)

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I suggested a lower end option before, thought he was talking about it.

gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Steel Legend x570 seems to be staying in stock

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btw, D.F psu was /is in stock earlier

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:58 PM

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really? Lemme check again

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19 in stock, prob only good for another day

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gritty meadow May 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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its friday

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they will be gone by midnight most likely

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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huh all oos for newegg

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200$ on amazon

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hmm x570 p isnt in stock at the good price

plush timber May 1, 2020, 5:01 PM

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yeah a lot of stuff out o fstock lol

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i put notify of the ASUS one

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 5:01 PM

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x570 not looking great

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(<200$)

plush timber May 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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what site is that

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well i can start buying parts and when it all comes in swap it out of my case

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or maybe buy a new case and build an entirely different computer

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https://www.newegg.com/white-fractal-design-focus-g-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352067

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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That's pcpartpicker.

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Focus G is a pretty good case

teal sundial May 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Where can I store my r5 3600 until I get the rest of my parts tag me please

warped scroll May 1, 2020, 6:22 PM

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In the box?

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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@teal sundial anywhere as long is it's not being crushed is fine, it stays safe inside the box.

teal sundial May 1, 2020, 6:58 PM

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K

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And can u reccomend me some ram for the r5 3600

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Budget 70

charred venture May 1, 2020, 7:00 PM

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ripjaws v

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 7:01 PM

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if you are willing to go a little bit over there is this https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Description=G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600&cm_re=G.SKILL_Ripjaws_V_Series_16GB_(2_x_8GB)_288-Pin_DDR4_SDRAM_DDR4_3600-_-20-232-880-_-Product&quicklink=true

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3600mhz cl16

teal sundial May 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Well I have to do what it takes to get a nice performance so I’ll go over

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

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same link, shorter

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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ty lol

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Just delete everything from "description" onwards

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thats just fluff

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And for amazon links, delete everything fron "ref" onwards

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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hey everyone, trying to replace mobo, cpu and RAM and do VGA and HD later, can you tell me if this is a good setup for video and music editing and light gaming?

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:03 PM

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rookie cannot post link sorry

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need lvl3

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:03 PM

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ohhh i was so confused

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ok

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:03 PM

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If you're trying to link something, DM it to one of us and we'll post it on your behave

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until you're lvl 3

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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just sent @hollow thorn

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x370-killer-sli-ac/p/N82E16813157769?Item=N82E16813157769
https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712?Item=N82E16820313712
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568?Item=N82E16819113568
From @fathom grail

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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thank you!

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Lol you just got level 3

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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ROFLEgg

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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gotta love it lmao

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how can you even tell? i am extremely new to discord

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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to check your exact level you type !rank in #ranks-and-levels we can tell because your name went from grey to blue. In this server Blue nametag means you have regular role

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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oh ok thank you!

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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np

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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anyone have advice on the build i posted haha

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Can you explain why you choose each part?

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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CPU: seems to be the best one i can get for the money, has two cores for every thread, the highest boost frequency out of the ones i compared, and overall pretty good reviews from what i can tell

MOBO: it fits in my current case, works with the Ryzen 5 and is the upgrade to DDR4 that i was looking for seeing as i currently have ddr3. ton of memory expansion capability, seems like a good product from reviews and has wifi and bluetooth capabilities which is just a bonus (not sure if that's standard at this point). the SATA speed is an upgrade from what i'm using now and also there's an LED on the board so that's sweet.

RAM: Highest speed DDR4 with the lowest timing that i could find for the price range and doubles my current ram

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*two threads for every core

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Sorry I was playing some war thunder, but the CPU is fine, I feel like you can get a better mobo, and I don't think team dark pro makes sense for anything other than overclocking ram. @fathom grail

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Because I feel you might benefit more from just more ram for video editing

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:22 PM

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war thunder smh

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:23 PM

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can you rec a mobo and ram? i think i limited the search to ATX size boards that can accomodate a RYZEN 5 and that's what i got

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nevermind on the mobo i understand that part now

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i guess what part of the mobo do you think isn't good about it though

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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The chipset, x370 is older so I'm making an assumption that it might not be the best

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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so my other options seem to be B450, X470 and X570

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Yes.

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I would suggest you look at Gigabyte b450 aorus pro wifi.

midnight pollen May 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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it has enough power for 3rd gen, idk about features tho

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3rd gen 3600x that is

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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seems like moving to the b450 is a huge jump in price

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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is it?

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that board was like 130$ last I checked

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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maybe i'm looking at the wrong thing one sec

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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better sound chip

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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do you have a link by any chance because i don't see any b450 for 130

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Weird how are you searching for it?

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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cheapest i see is 170

hollow thorn May 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I know plenty of b450 boards even under 100$

fathom grail May 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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i limited my AMD mobo search to AM4, ATX and Ryzen series