#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 100

hollow thorn Mar 9, 2020, 11:38 AM

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I did with the MSI pro carbon ac.

tulip eagle Mar 9, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Is it true that a Ryzen7 3700x build doesn't do any display without a graphics card?

weak hamlet Mar 9, 2020, 11:59 AM

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true

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only the versions with G have graphics.

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example - 3400G

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split copper Mar 9, 2020, 1:10 PM

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It's not an issue for debugging if you have a spare card lying around

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But maybe it is and I'm not aware that it is😳

mild birch Mar 9, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@tulip eagle yes....

tulip eagle Mar 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Ok .. Ty all

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Part list:
Gigabyte b450 aorus elite
2x8 gskill f4 3200c16d 16gvgb
2600x
1660 ti
Hi guys, a friend of mine is having issues with a computer I built for him (and put together at his place) . Upon building it for him originally, I could never enable the ram's xmp profile to its 3200mhz setting without getting a blue screen before even getting to the user log in screen (on Windows). Spent several hours trying to fix this where I updated motherboard chipset, messed around in ryzen master and other things, but in the end I called it a day and left the ram at 2133. He was complaining about stuttering and occasional short freezes while gaming, which I assumed would be caused by the low ram speed. So after more messing about over TeamViewer, the ram finally runs (by some miracle) with xmp enabled, sort of. I ran prime 95 on default ryzen master game mode and bios settings (xmp on) with immediate errors when running both ram sticks, but no errors when running with only 1 stick (only tested 1 stick in isolation as it took him 10 minutes to put the ram back in after I asked him to reseat it and we were running out of time lol). Additionally, Apex legends refused to stay open for more than 20 seconds with both ram sticks in at 3200mhz. I told him to run the system with the 1 known working ram stick at 3200 and stability was fine, as expected, while I gather more information, which brings me here. The system runs fine, as mentioned, but Apex and other games still have the same lag issue with minor noticeable differences. (1 ram stick, 3200mhz) After all this, I can only assume that the 1 ram stick is faulty (I can test it in isolation in the following days), but the lagging issue still persists...

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GPU drivers are updated to latest, so I don't know what the lag can be caused by, any ideas?

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Also am I correct to assume that ram stick is faulty?

long geyser Mar 10, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Most likely Windows being annoying. For example most recent patch causing stuttering. Also just set RAM to 2933/3000, not like it can only be 2133/3200 without in-between

weak hamlet Mar 10, 2020, 4:42 PM

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@meager scarab how did you have the ram installed? 2/4 slot?

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Slots 1 & 3 for dual channel

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*the slots labeled 1 & 3 on mobo

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I was also having some weird power issues, screen would freeze and not recover during post and in bios

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When running both sticks

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 4:50 PM

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What's your PSU

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That might be important @meager scarab

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Shieet, I don't remember, I'll have to check with my friend

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I feel like it was an evga cxm

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Wait no, cxm is corsair

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Hm

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 4:57 PM

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It's a 550 cxm

weak hamlet Mar 10, 2020, 5:06 PM

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try slot 2/4

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Ok

weak hamlet Mar 10, 2020, 5:10 PM

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For optimum performance, when enabling
Dual Channel mode with two memory modules, we recommend that you install them in the DDR4_1
and DDR4_2 sockets.

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Ok yeah sorry, they were installed in 1&2

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I guess when I said 1 & 3 labeled on mobo it wasn't true

weak hamlet Mar 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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aaah

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gotcha

meager scarab Mar 10, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I remember that they're installed like O l O l

clear walrus Mar 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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hey i was just wondering what peoples opinions were on an upgrade for my cpu. Right now i am running an i5-7500 with a 2060 super. I want to upgrade to a ryzen cpu and i was just wondering what would be the best option for my graphics card

oak sand Mar 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Keep the gpu, id invest in a better cpu and mobo unless you have a large budget @clear walrus

clear walrus Mar 10, 2020, 7:11 PM

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i was thinking about upgrading just the cpu maybe to a 3600 or a 2700x

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:13 PM

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@clear walrus you will need a new mainboard IF you upgrade to any AMD cpu.

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that is how it works

clear walrus Mar 10, 2020, 7:18 PM

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yeah i was thinking a 3600 with a msi tomahawk max

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:22 PM

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please dont pay for a overpriced board like that @clear walrus

clear walrus Mar 10, 2020, 7:23 PM

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what is a good board then

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@clear walrus if you have a look in the #building-and-recc-chat, and scroll up a bit from "now", you will see a talk about that :)

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i could repeat myself, but it is easier to just point you there for my posts on it

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Naed, what is, in your opinion, the best b450 board with WiFi?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:26 PM

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eh, without looking, carbon something something iirc

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(now, i will go find it, give me a sec)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:26 PM

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MSI b450 pro carbon ac?

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Only carbon board I'm aware of

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:27 PM

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aye

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ah, I have that one

clear walrus Mar 10, 2020, 7:28 PM

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ok cool thanks @gritty meadow

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Asking because I have some friends looking into PC building, and connecting by Ethernet would be annoying if possible at all for them

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@clear walrus you are very welcome, and please remember that there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

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@hollow thorn dont only limit yourself to b450

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:33 PM

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True

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but as of rn AMD is the way to go

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and AMD 3rd gen

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:33 PM

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470 chipset is viable

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:33 PM

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?

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Usually wouldn't that be more expensive?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:34 PM

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depends on the features

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we agree that the Carbon is 150 right?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Any cheap&good x470 wifi boards?

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I got mine at 120

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if theres <150 x470, that'd be nice

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:35 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac <- look at the price history on it

MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

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@hollow thorn microcenter?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 7:40 PM

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no

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got it a while back

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could've been 130

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but it was not 150

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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okay, just keep in mind, current pricing etc :)

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nQc48d/asrock-x470-master-sliac-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-master-sliac <- here is the board that made me mention the 470 chipset

ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

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keep in mind, it skimps on other things

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but, depending on requirements etc etc

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Ah I see thank you very much

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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you are very welcome

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also, keep in mind, you are getting fairly close to the 570 chipset boards too

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Isn't x570 wifi boards really expensive tho?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:20 PM

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180

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@hollow thorn

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Yea...

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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do remember, the carbon is 150

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so it is not that much more expensive

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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30 still a lot

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:21 PM

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remember, b450 with wifi starts at 85 usd

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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What

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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so the carbon is NOT cheap

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Without?

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Yea I understand

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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no, with WIFI, the cheapest board is 85

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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??

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:22 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#G=95,31,79&sort=price&page=1

Choose A Motherboard

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Um lol

📎 Screenshot_20200310-162259.png

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:23 PM

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shrugs

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you can see the board i talked about right? @hollow thorn

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I'll figure it out in a bit

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But whats your suggestion?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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click the link i posted above

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I did lol

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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that should give you a sorted list

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you on mobile or something?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Ye

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:28 PM

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give me a sec, let me test on my phone

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it works, kinda on mine

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let me try another link

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:30 PM

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okay went to my pc

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laptop

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whats wrong with that asrock board?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:32 PM

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@hollow thorn did i ever say there was anything wrong with it?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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(Why would you choose the carbon over the asrock?)

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(what are the downsides)

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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you originally asked " what is the best b450 with wifi" :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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huh

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that was a bit ago

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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i know, just giving context for the carbon choice :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Anyways, what is a good well-rounded b450 board with wifi?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:34 PM

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depending on requirements, any board

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Good sound chip, okay VRMs, the rest doesn't quite matter.

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:35 PM

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welcome to the carbon :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Well, still in planning phase, so I'd say that could actually be the best choice, if I get the budget as expected.

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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keep in mind. the sound chip ONLY matters if they are using mini-jack based gear

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if they have usb based stuff? it doesnt matter one single bit

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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really?

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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yes

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Well then sound chip doesn't matter xD

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I think I'm gonna go with either ASRock b450m/ac or carbon based off the final budget I get

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:38 PM

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question: you ever noticed how you can select your USB based gear as an actual device in the sound settings in windows?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Actually, no lol

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I'm actually horrible at nearly anything software

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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:)

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you got any usb based gear now?

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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not right now

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At school with a school laptop

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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fair :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I never knew that

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:39 PM

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the reason i ask is this:

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they show up as actual devices, because they have their own soundchip integrated

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it is how they can "just" work

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(also a fair reason for why they all sound fairly horrible imo)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Well, thats how the "Plug-and-play" mindset works, don't know how anything works until you look into it, and find the many nuances within

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:41 PM

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indeed

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:41 PM

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tbh I don't want to spoil myself too much with good sound, don't want that to become a hobby of sorts and 'waste' much on that

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:42 PM

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and to be fair, it doesnt matter if you (or anyone else) dont understand how the software works as such.

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as long as it works, you dont have to care :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I look into PCs, and next thing I know, I'm prob gonna be spending hundreds a year on it

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:43 PM

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nah, a solid machine will last for years

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I do like figuring things out tho, the more I know, the more options I get on solving problems

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:43 PM

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just learn to NOT listen to the hype trains

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Right now I'm just spending to fix up my initial mistakes in my pc building

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Like a cheapo keyboard

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But as much as I want to get a new nicer case, I'm trying to restrict myself from doing it

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But in the end, the more mistakes I make, the more mistakes I can identify and stop others from commiting.

gritty meadow Mar 10, 2020, 8:45 PM

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correct and fair :)

hollow thorn Mar 10, 2020, 8:46 PM

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:)

tulip eagle Mar 11, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Gskill trident Z RGB 3600MHz (18-22-22-42) vs Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz (16-18-18-36).

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How much is the difference?

urban ferry Mar 11, 2020, 3:44 AM

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i have that vengeance rgb stuff

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i think its good

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not saying that the 3600mhz is worse, its probably better, but in my experience, 3200mhz at that timing is good

cerulean nova Mar 11, 2020, 3:47 AM

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i think there is like a 5 fps difference, assuming you are going amd

proud pulsar Mar 11, 2020, 5:17 AM

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I have a trident Z neo 3600mhz (18-22-22-42) but I changed the timings to a 16-19-18-36

tacit hemlock Mar 11, 2020, 2:14 PM

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If you have a ryzen 3000 series I would get the 3600mhz

oak sand Mar 11, 2020, 2:24 PM

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But crap timings

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@tulip eagle ik rgb is nice, but get G Skill Ripjaws V 3600 16-19-19-39

tacit hemlock Mar 11, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Thats definitely the best bang for buck ram rn imo

oak sand Mar 11, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Def

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Idc about looks

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Raw performance there

long geyser Mar 11, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Eh, b-die isn't that much more but you do need to know how to change timings/freq as XMP wise it's bad

clear seal Mar 11, 2020, 6:26 PM

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What does "AMD OPTIMIZED" mean on ram?

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I'm getting vengeance rgb 2x8gb 3600mhz ram. There's 2 different rams and the "AMD OPTIMIZED" ram is about an extra $15. Is it worth it?

weak hamlet Mar 11, 2020, 6:50 PM

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means... marketing.

quaint current Mar 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

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^

oak sand Mar 11, 2020, 8:34 PM

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There might also be a difference in timings, @clear seal they wouldnt add 15$ just for that(at least I hope not)

mighty sleet Mar 12, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I know im a little late but check the Cas latency

split copper Mar 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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AMD likes its ram speedy

proud pulsar Mar 12, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I have my ram running at 3600mhz at 16-18-19-36 timing

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so I tried messing with my pubg settings. it's no longer bottlenecking

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thanks for trying to help me

timid maple Mar 12, 2020, 2:56 AM

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guys

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what's the difference between tuf and rog strix

midnight pollen Mar 12, 2020, 3:03 AM

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rog are usually higher end boards

long geyser Mar 12, 2020, 4:00 AM

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ROG is usually overpriced

quaint current Mar 12, 2020, 3:20 PM

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^ rog tax

midnight pollen Mar 12, 2020, 3:30 PM

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ROG Chef_Kiss

north cedar Mar 12, 2020, 10:59 PM

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ASROCK B360M-ITX/AC 802.11AC WIFI USB 3.1 SATA3 M.2

this is the mobo I have, along with i5 and 8gb ram. Can someone tell me best ram/cpu I should get?

cerulean nova Mar 12, 2020, 11:02 PM

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are you looking for a new cpu and ram?

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what is your budget and use case

north cedar Mar 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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yes looking for new, price not too sure but flexible, and gaming

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want to run new cod better

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second monitor lags a ton and the cod seems like its capping my cpu out

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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do you have a ballpark on the budget? and do you have a certain color you want the ram to be? @north cedar

north cedar Mar 13, 2020, 12:50 AM

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dont mind ram color, and what's usually a good range? 600?

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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just for the cpu/ram?

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what cpu do you have now?

loud adder Mar 13, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Can anyone help, I upgraded my cpu and now it won’t boot into windows. I just see this. And then it turns itself off after awhile

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north cedar Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 AM

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i5

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definitely want i7

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lets say 600 max

gritty meadow Mar 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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if you update the bios, the board can support up to (and including) the i9-9900KF

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B360M-ITXac/#CPU

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@north cedar 600 max for just cpu/ram id go with a 9900k but idk if your mobo can handle it id have to research it

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or your cooler

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wait is that USD?

dawn bough Mar 13, 2020, 1:17 AM

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what is a good cheap 16gb ram?

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 1:19 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZR7v6h/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k8g4d32aesek

Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

dawn bough Mar 13, 2020, 1:19 AM

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oof red tho

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?

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is there any color

north cedar Mar 13, 2020, 1:19 AM

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USD, and i have 600 watt

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 1:19 AM

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you said cheap not pretty

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cf98TW/gskill-memory-f43200c16d16gvkb

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

dawn bough Mar 13, 2020, 1:20 AM

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ok

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ty

cerulean nova Mar 13, 2020, 1:22 AM

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well then id go with a 9900k or 9700k depending if the performance increase is worth it to you

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but i have to go for a bit so i can answer questions in like an hour maybe

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Hey can anyone help me

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my pc only turns on for like 10 seconds and immediately turns off

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:37 AM

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We're you trying to overclock or anything

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Nope

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I only tried to change a faulty aio fan

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Check your wiring, make sure everything is plugged in well

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I checked everything tbh

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Ram gpu 24 pin

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:42 AM

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So what exactly happens following you pressing the power button?

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Turns on,displays rog symbol and says that i need to do a recovery bios or something then shuts off before i could do anything

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Does your board support bios flashback? If it does, try that and see

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:44 AM

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What the hell is a bios flashback

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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It's a feature on some boards, many MSI ones. Anyways, you've tried spamming bios button while it boots correct?

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(whatever button opens bios, del, f2, whatever)

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:46 AM

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i did and it never goes into bios

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Unless i wait for the american megatrends logo and press f1 to go into bios

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:47 AM

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You haven't changed any components from when it was working correct?

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Nope

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Except a fan

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Wierd

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Only thing I can think of rn is bios somehow corrupted or something, but that shouldn't be it.

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Hmmm

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Maybe forks or naed will stumble in here and help ya, but I don't have enough experience to know, sorry.

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Aight thanks, one last thing to mention, every single fan including the aio pump ramps up to max during startup

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Like ive never heard my pump going that loud

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But thats it

fossil bridge Mar 14, 2020, 1:58 AM

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do they slow down after

midnight pollen Mar 14, 2020, 2:09 AM

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so you had windows set up and working before?

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 6:09 PM

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how many fan headers do the tomahawk max have?

mighty sleet Mar 14, 2020, 6:16 PM

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i have one but i dont remember hold on

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@mighty sleet how many?

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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@dawn bough https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX/Specification

B450 TOMAHAWK MAX | Motherboard - The world leader in motherboard d...

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@hollow thorn you are more than welcome to throw a @ when you see stuff like that

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@smoky belfry you found a solution?

hollow thorn Mar 14, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Alright

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@gritty meadow what is thing for the fans? sorry i don't know

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 9:17 PM

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click the link, look in the detail tab

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look under "internal connectors"

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@dawn bough

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 9:41 PM

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"4 x 4-pin system fan connectors" does this mean it has 4?

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 9:43 PM

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read the 2 lines before that too :)

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 9:46 PM

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"1 x 4-pin CPU fan connector
1 x 4-pin water-pump-fan connector
4 x 4-pin system fan connectors"

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basically 6?

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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basically 6 is indeed right

dawn bough Mar 14, 2020, 9:50 PM

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ok ty

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 9:52 PM

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you are very welcome @dawn bough

stiff grove Mar 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Hello. I have a msi motherboard that i am attempting to use. It is fm2/fm2+ with ddr3 ram. I am attempting to get it running with as few needed purchases as possible, initially. I know i absolutely have buy a processor, but i am hoping i can get by with ram i have, ddr3 1866 mhz. Are there any fm2/fm2+ cpus that are compatible? Yes, i know it will not run at full potential, if at all.

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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@stiff grove you need to look up the specific model of mainboard on the MSI site, so you can see what the specific board supports.

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and you need to figure out what bios version your specific board has

stiff grove Mar 14, 2020, 10:29 PM

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What about the clock speeds between the cpu and the ram? That is the info i want.

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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why?

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it is just a number that doesnt tell you anything

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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^

stiff grove Mar 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I know there is a relationship between the two, i just do not fully understand the rule about which speeds are compatible and which are not.

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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that has nothing to do with the question of "compatible or not"

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find the mainboard model number, and we can help you from there

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until you do that, there is nothing we can do

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(well, we can guess, but considering how many fm2/fm2+ boards MSI made back in the day, there is no way that i am doing that)

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I've never used an FM2 system, so I wouldn't be able to help

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But hey, I tried

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:34 PM

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nothing special about them @glad turret

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just a different socket

fossil bridge Mar 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

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he left the server lmao

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:38 PM

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He probably thought you were being rude to him @gritty meadow

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I didn't think so

fossil bridge Mar 14, 2020, 10:39 PM

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^

split copper Mar 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I can imagine Naed using the calmest, most inoffensive tone of voice

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

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we cannot read the mind of people asking for help

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if they are not willing to provide the info they have ... nothing we can do about it

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yeah but I think (and I know it's probably no one's fault in particular and idk how often it happens because I just lurk most of the time)

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Sometimes, maybe we make people feel stupid

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Because we know computers

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And they don't

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And I'

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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i get what you are saying

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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And I'm not saying I know everything, you know?

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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and that topic is an interesting one

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because the reverse is also true

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as in, there are things that they (person on the other side of the question) know, that we know nothing about

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yeah, for sure

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 PM

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and, i know for myself, i have no problem saying "i dont know X"

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there, imo, is not shame/negative in doing that

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i prefer asking people that actually know. (when i have something i dont know)

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because they will be able to give me a fuller/more-complete understanding of the answer

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but, personally, i think the problem/challenge with that (saying "i dont know X, how do i do X?") is that society at large doesnt "like" that kind of admission of "weakness", does that make sense @glad turret ?

split copper Mar 14, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I agree

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it starts in primary school

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@gritty meadow it is working now

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Its not related to the fans at all

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The cpu was overheating but it kept giving me an ff q code

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I had to remove and put back the aio block on the cpu

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Turns out it was the thermal paste as it was dried out

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Remember kids, always make sure that your thermal is not dry

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@smoky belfry how long ago did you install the AIO?

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 11:26 PM

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3 whole years lol

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never checked it

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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ah, fair enough

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Its working now though

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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aye aye, good to hear, just wanted to check if you had gotten it working or not :)

smoky belfry Mar 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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alright, well ima go play some games :)

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 11:27 PM

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enjoy :)

glad turret Mar 14, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yeah, @gritty meadow, it's a pride thing

gritty meadow Mar 14, 2020, 11:32 PM

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hm, to some extent i would agree

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it is a "messy" conversation to have

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because it can easily be understood/seen as if you are critiquing the other person/people you are talking with

timid maple Mar 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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guys

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any good itx motherboards?

flint portal Mar 15, 2020, 10:59 PM

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^^
are there good price-to-performance X570 ITX boards
if not, ill probably get a tomahawk MAX

long geyser Mar 16, 2020, 12:51 AM

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tomahawk sucks. Bad sound chip, network chip, less M2 slots, less PCIe 16x slots, lack of WiFi, less rear USB ports, etc compared to boards at the same price

flint portal Mar 16, 2020, 1:49 AM

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what would you recommend? @long geyser
(I chose it cuz of the VRMs, memory speed, and all the TechTubers recommend it)

long geyser Mar 16, 2020, 2:50 AM

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@flint portal b450 Asus TUF Pro (mATX is $95 USD usually and ATX is ~$120. Also dont confuse it with TUF Plus, Plus sucks) or b450 Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi

flint portal Mar 16, 2020, 2:51 AM

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ok thx

quaint current Mar 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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why would you get a itx board if u could get a atx like the tomahawk? itx usually costs more for less/worse features

obsidian lagoon Mar 16, 2020, 7:36 AM

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What is the best/cheapest b450 am4 mobo, something less than 125$

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Just curious

tacit hemlock Mar 16, 2020, 1:31 PM

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If you want it to be ryzen 3000 compatible then just look at hei's last message

obsidian lagoon Mar 16, 2020, 3:53 PM

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So eiter aorus pro or the asus tuf pro

tacit hemlock Mar 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Pretty much

naive pendant Mar 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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tomahawk max

quaint current Mar 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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did u not just see why not to get one

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tacit hemlock Mar 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Lol

mild birch Mar 17, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@long geyser cool and all but 32mb bios chip

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:37 AM

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which doesnt matter one single bit

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:47 AM

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cool, now I get a BIOS with nice looking GUI? Does that compare to actually better hardware?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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want to make a friendly wager @long geyser ?

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Mobos still supports all CPUs, may have to switch BIOS back and forth to get a certain one tho. But I mean, if you're getting a 200GE/1200 why get semi expensive mobo?
@gritty meadow maybe?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:49 AM

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my suggestion is this:

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I believe that the "masses" of pc builders will start yelling and screaming about bios chip sizes as the next "important" thing

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you know, just like they did about vrm's

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while ignoring the actual cases where it matters

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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idk, I think they might do it as a decently heavy recommendation but not as bad as VRMs I'd think

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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okay

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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sort of side point rather then main point

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I guess?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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anything specific you think they are going to push instead of vrm?

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my guess/bet is (as mentioned above) bios chip size

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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maybe PCIe 4.0 when more GPUs/NVMe use it?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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bah, that means there is an actual need for it @long geyser

hollow thorn Mar 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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only thing the bios chip on the tomahawk has over anything else is that it can support the nicer looking older msi bios

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instead of the more bare bones bios on the 16mb chips

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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i am specifically looking for bets on things that make no logical sense

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just like vrm and bios chip size

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I mean the 3.0 8x cap has just been hit with 2080Ti

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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yes, so in 2-3 generations, we might even hit it on more mainstream parts

long geyser Mar 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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but I mean, 16x GPU and 4x NVMe

mild birch Mar 17, 2020, 9:11 AM

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yo

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noobs

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You generally want 2x8 kits (dual channel) or 4x8 kits (quad channel)
this will (often) lead to you getting Single rank memory, which although slower clock for clock, tends to clock better than dual or higher rank memory
Running on 1DPC mode (meaning 1 dimm per channel) will generally ensure highest clock speeds and best overclocking performance
Dont get tricked by fast ram. This ram is often Rev E, which is great, however do not buy it beleiving you are ensured Samsung B die
Samsung B die times very well. You can often tell if a kit is B die based off its speed and timings.
B die tends to reach quite low CL, tRP and tRP (x,y,z), and these values tend to be quite close
Ex. A 3200 14-14-14 is likely B die, whereas a 3600 16-18-18 is probably CJR, DJR or Rev E

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I have a RAM server

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help me give some suggestionsd

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this is mostly to do with high level ram OC such as Rev E overclocking and B die Overclocking

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VRMs for Zen rarely matter

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@gritty meadow things that dont matter....Bios reset button

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its not hard to jump 2 pins lol

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also I rarely notice people dicussing bios chip sizes lol

grim mica Mar 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Rams in my country is strange

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there's virtually no kit with 3000mhz comes without rgb

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whereas there are tons of corsair lpx and gskill kit with 3200 or 3600 with no rgb on sale on newegg or amazon

idle ridge Mar 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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hello everyone. Is there anyone in here that can help me with a bios issue or mother board upgrade? SSD not showing up and failed to find any BIOS updates for old mother board

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Does anyone know if the P370EM motherboard is compatible with pcie nvme ssds?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@naive pendant from what i can see, it looks like a "M" key slot on the board, BUT, it looks like it is using a 2240 model

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so, in theory, yes. IF you can find one that is 2240

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however, i would STRONGLY suggest that you look in the manual for the laptop you have. Because that is a OEM board, and both CLEVO and Sager have been known to do fairly weird custom stuff

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(Clevo and Sager being the ones i can see use that board)

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 3:27 PM

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@gritty meadow I'm want to use a Samsung 979 Evo plus

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I have it in my old laptop, and my dad just got a new one and is giving me his old one

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@naive pendant whatever drive you want to use, you need to look in the manual

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and the 970 evo is normally a 2280 drive.

tacit hemlock Mar 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Are the next generation of ryzen chips going to have the same socket as the 3000 series?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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in theory yes

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we dont know the exact details yet

tacit hemlock Mar 17, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Ok Ik we don't know specifics but theoretically a b450 board with a bios flash could support the next gen then?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yes

tacit hemlock Mar 17, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Awesome

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Thx

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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if nothing else, you will have the 3900x or the 3950x to upgrade to

tacit hemlock Mar 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Ya for sure

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Gonna need a better cooler for one of those tho 😂

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My current r5 3600 is hitting low 70s with the stock cooler under load

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Is this normal?

gritty meadow Mar 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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aye

tacit hemlock Mar 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Ok

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Just checking

stiff kraken Mar 17, 2020, 6:31 PM

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so for some reason my cpu is running at really high voltage with just PBO

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the cpu is only at like 30% usage right now

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is that normal

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i've heard people say something like 1.25V is the safe limit

midnight pollen Mar 17, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I would never go past 1.4 on intel, although I think amd's voltage limits are higher

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I think 1.35-1.575 is a good voltage for ryzen

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only near 1.4 if you are ocing to something near 4ghz

stiff kraken Mar 17, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it's running at 4.35ghz all core right now

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just pbo

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i'm not even pushing it just taking online lecture lol

sharp blaze Mar 17, 2020, 8:47 PM

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if pbo goes that high, its not a big deal. if you set a fixed voltage that high your cpu wont last.

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 9:32 PM

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ive looked all over, can someone confirm if https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HMGYTVW/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_7?smid=AVCN3MVCVULPH&psc=1 MB will run an i7 9700k (later overclocked) out of box without having to flash BIOS, both will be brand new via 2020

mild jackal Mar 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Maybe - have you considered getting a z390 board? I bet there's something comparable in features and price.

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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i have not, i mainly just want a decent MB with 4 usb display ports and gig network card

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ill look into that tho

mild jackal Mar 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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z390 has built-in usb 3.1 gen 2 if that's something you're after.

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 9:44 PM

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ASUS Prime Z390-A Motherboard LGA1151 @mild jackal ?

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looks nice

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ty

mild jackal Mar 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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That should work fine.

naive pendant Mar 17, 2020, 10:08 PM

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yeah pcpartpicker says its viable now no warning about BIOS, thanks

blissful dragon Mar 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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this thing is beastly

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main pulsar Mar 18, 2020, 5:57 PM

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i love the angled 24 pin

midnight pollen Mar 18, 2020, 6:13 PM

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😮 I didn;t even notice that

tacit hemlock Mar 18, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Looks clean

marsh tendon Mar 20, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Is cl16 worth $15 over cl18? Both are 3600mhz

muted roost Mar 20, 2020, 11:22 AM

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3600 cl18 is crap

long geyser Mar 20, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Unless you tune timings

tulip talon Mar 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Can someone help with me with a decision I’m making?

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Should I get Corsair vengeance pro or g skill trident z

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Please @ me

slow eagle Mar 20, 2020, 3:45 PM

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guys, im at a crossroads. im building a system for my gf, and want it to be ryzen based seeing as it seems to be the best value. But i cant decide if i should go with a R5 1600 (AF skew, on 12 nm process, basically a 2600) or should i jump to the R5 2600 instead? its about a $35 difference with the 1600 AF being cheaper

tulip talon Mar 20, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Do the 1600 af

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It’s performing on par to the 2600 and has faster nanometer to 12 instead of 14

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And the plus is that it’s cheaper

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@slow eagle

tacit hemlock Mar 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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1600 af for sure if your trying to save money. Same performance but cheaper

brazen cradle Mar 21, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Hello

brazen cradle Mar 21, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Anyone know the best motherboard for a ryzen 5 3600 ?

hollow thorn Mar 21, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Best for what price?

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Best overall would prob be smth like a X570 Crosshair VIII Hero or X570 Crosshair VIII Formula

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Budget board would be like a B450 tuf pro gaming

gritty meadow Mar 21, 2020, 4:26 AM

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the m-atx version of the b450 for a bit more budget

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95ish vs 120ish respectively

tulip talon Mar 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I heard the tug gaming m atx is good

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Tuf*

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Mar 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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TUF B450M-PRO GAMING <- that variant or the non-M one @tulip talon

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not the other model they make

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Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING <- that one and the M variant are NOT good

pearl crow Mar 22, 2020, 4:54 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Ryzen-Gaming-Motherboard-Prime-B450-Plus/dp/B07FKT5CTH/ref=sr_1_85?dchild=1&keywords=am4%2Bmotherboard&qid=1584845052&refinements=p_72%3A1248880011&rnid=1248877011&s=electronics&sr=1-85&swrs=6386A2BBBA19281DF5337DFF51B2760C&th=1

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or

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-arsenal-gaming-b450-tomahawk/p/N82E16813144284

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basically new asus prime b450 plus for $95 or refurb msi b450 tomahawk (not max) for about $15 cheaper

delicate bolt Mar 23, 2020, 3:16 AM

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so i've got a b450 mobo, 2070 super, and a 3700x with 3000mhz RAM

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can anyone tell me what kind of performance i'm losing compared to, say, 3200 and 3600mhz?

long geyser Mar 23, 2020, 4:33 AM

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depends on the program. If gaming, then it depends on the specific game

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Also timings matter

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Could be worth OCing IF clock, usually

umbral valve Mar 23, 2020, 11:56 PM

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how bad is the tomahawk max sound card

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it’s proven to be worse than my laptop so far but

long geyser Mar 24, 2020, 12:25 AM

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I mean, it works

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okay enough for super budget

oak sand Mar 24, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Super budget? Its 115$ I wouldnt call that budget....

tacit hemlock Mar 24, 2020, 1:03 AM

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True

oak sand Mar 24, 2020, 1:04 AM

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It does have good vrms

tacit hemlock Mar 24, 2020, 1:04 AM

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But... thats about it

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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do i need to do somthing to make my ram run in dual chanel or just have 2 sticks of ram in the slots 2 and 4 on the motherboard ?

cerulean nova Mar 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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make sure you enable XMP

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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what is that

crude path Mar 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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xmp will just get you to what your sticker speed is.

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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the only thing i did is make my ram run fron 2440 (or somthing like that ) to 3000mhz because the box said that was the speed of the ram

crude path Mar 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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your mobo should auto go into dual channel

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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oh then i did that

crude path Mar 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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well there is a feature you should enable called XMP or something else

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its not XMP on my mobo lol

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what mobo do you have

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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i have the asrock b450m steel legend

crude path Mar 24, 2020, 2:12 AM

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okay yeah idk what it is on that lemme see if i can find it

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ok so it should be called xmp in yours. but if your speed is at sticker speed id just leave it

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the dual channel thing should happen automatically

paper gull Mar 24, 2020, 2:13 AM

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so just do the thing that i did, it should be on dual chanel

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thx

crude path Mar 24, 2020, 2:14 AM

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np

bright turret Mar 24, 2020, 8:56 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XHprxr/patriot-viper-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-pvr416g320c6k this good for amd 2700x chipset?

fossil bridge Mar 24, 2020, 11:38 AM

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more than likely

quaint current Mar 24, 2020, 1:44 PM

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its pretty expensive, uses (id assume low binned) b die

coral canyon Mar 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Good deal or naw? Save it for the next build or just wait?

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pastel monolith Mar 24, 2020, 4:44 PM

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wait

coral canyon Mar 24, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Til when good sir?

gritty meadow Mar 24, 2020, 4:50 PM

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when you actually have a use for it

coral canyon Mar 24, 2020, 5:07 PM

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👌

stoic oriole Mar 25, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I currently have a ryzen 5 3600 in a b450 tomahawk mobo, if I happened to find a deal on a ryzen 7 3700 for about half price, would it be worth the upgrade? UserBenchmark doesn't really show any effective difference until you start loading all cores at once and most of my tasks are 6-8 threads at most

tacit hemlock Mar 25, 2020, 12:54 AM

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If most of your tasks are 6-8 threads then I wouldnt bother

mild jackal Mar 25, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I'd save the cash or put it into another component. SSD, cooling, speakers, etc.

tacit hemlock Mar 25, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Never can have too much cooling 😎

split copper Mar 25, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Ahh...finally enough cooling.

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gleaming storm Mar 25, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Windtunnel? 🙂

tacit hemlock Mar 25, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Needs rgb now... smh disappointed

fossil bridge Mar 25, 2020, 12:38 PM

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3/10 no rgb

tacit hemlock Mar 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Also kinda loud 2/10

midnight pollen Mar 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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hey don't post pics of my pc without permission

naive pendant Mar 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

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which would be better for the price, ryzen 5 3600 or intel 7-9th gen?

copper solar Mar 25, 2020, 2:34 PM

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@naive pendant what will you be using it for

midnight pollen Mar 25, 2020, 2:36 PM

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generally amd is better value, but intel still has slightly better performance for gaming

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Who knows about the Intel i7-4790K?

tacit hemlock Mar 25, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I'm sure many people do in the channel. Ask your question first and people will be more likely to get back to you 👍

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Does the Intel i7-4790K work with an All in One PC?

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Yes, the chipset, motherboard, and socket is compatible

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@warm path depends on the specific model of All-in-one. There might be restrictions in cooling capacity or other silly things like that. It all depends on the nitty gritty of it.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:53 PM

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ok

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Thx

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So can the same heat sink and cooling of my current cpu work with it?

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Its a Pentium cooling

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:54 PM

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have you tried a google search and looked if anyone has done the swap you are thinking about?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:54 PM

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nah

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Don't see any

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:55 PM

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in general, the pentiums (from that time era) were not exactly running all that hot. so, the cooling might be undersized for the 4790k

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:55 PM

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oh ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:56 PM

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do you know the exact cpu model you have now?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:57 PM

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yes

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Its an Intel Pentium G3220T clocking at 2.60GHz

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:58 PM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=77774,80807

Intel product specifications

Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.

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that is the difference between the two cpus you are asking about

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just on the surface of things.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:58 PM

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ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:59 PM

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there is more than double the heat output from the 4790k

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:59 PM

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What stats to be specific?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:59 PM

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TDP

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 2:59 PM

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oh ok

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so my cooling can't handle it?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 2:59 PM

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all-in-ones are not exactly known for having a lot of extra headroom in regards to cooling

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they are generally made for a fairly specific set of cpu's

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:00 PM

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oh

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so I found a list of compatible cpus

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can you help me determine it

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:00 PM

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because, from the manufacturers POV, why pay for a cooling solution that you are not going to use?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:01 PM

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or I can use the TDP as reference?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:01 PM

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(you = manufacturer)

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:01 PM

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ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:01 PM

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for those old cpus

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yes, it is fairly accurate

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re: list of compatible cpus: you can just type them into the "search specfications" box at the upper right of that page

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and as you find each one, just click "add to compare"

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:02 PM

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ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:03 PM

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that page is the official site for all things related to intel cpus

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Can the cooling handle at least double compacity?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:03 PM

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no idea

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your best bet is figuring out what the fastest CPU model the all-in-one was sold with

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and after you have that figured out

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see if you can find a picture of the cooling solution from the model that has THAT specific cpu

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:04 PM

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ok

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Thanks for your help

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:05 PM

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you are very welcome :) best of luck :)

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:10 PM

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maybe my best bet is Core i7-4770T

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although 45 TDP

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think my cooling can handle

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nvm

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Found the Intel® Core ™ i7-4785T

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:18 PM

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the T chips are indeed an option.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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they run cool

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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that they do

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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like at TPD of 35W

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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aye

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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that the best one I found

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that runs cool

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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aye.

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now you just have to find one that is reasonably priced. and actually works

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Should I bump it up to 45W

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like for the Intel® Core ™ i7-4790T

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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as i said earlier. you will have to figure out what the cooling capacity of the current cooler actually is

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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well ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 3:20 PM

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IF you want to go above the current TDP that is.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 3:21 PM

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ok

naive pendant Mar 25, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@copper solar mostly gaming like borderlands and Ark Survival, maybe Black Desert Online Remastered

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no streaming

copper solar Mar 25, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I7-9700k

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ASmeguFace

naive pendant Mar 25, 2020, 3:29 PM

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sorry i meant Intel Core i5-9600KF

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not i7

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@copper solar

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Who knows a good website or place to buy CPUs cuz I don’t see some on Newegg

urban ferry Mar 25, 2020, 5:02 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/Processors-Desktops/SubCategory/ID-343?Tid=7671

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there they are :)

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lol

mild jackal Mar 25, 2020, 5:02 PM

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fixed* https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601306860 😄

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Forks, I'm seeing some intel bias right there

📎 unknown.png

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https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007671 601306860 601306869

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:05 PM

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No @urban ferry

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I was looking for the i7-4790T

mild jackal Mar 25, 2020, 5:06 PM

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That chip was released 6 years ago, it will be difficult to find new for a reasonable price.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:07 PM

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No no

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I mean for sell

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I don’t see it on NewEgg for sale

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Why exactly do you need that exact chip?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Cuz of good clock speed at lower voltage

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My cooler can’t handle that i7-4790K

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My pc is all in one

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So I would prefer the i7-4790T chip

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Cuz I don’t want to fry my pc

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Plus it has good clock speed

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:09 PM

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you could undervolt and underclock the 4790k to achieve the same thing

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Well

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:09 PM

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but anyways

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Even booting to bios

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:09 PM

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what cooler is it

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Would take good heat

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It’s an Pentium G3220T cooler

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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why not upgrade your cooler?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Can’t

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It an all in one pc

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So limited choice

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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like... prebuilt?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Yes

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I only plan on upgrading cpu

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I don't see how you can't change the cooler, and can change the cpu

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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The i7-4790K will fry my pc

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I can remove the heat sink

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It’ll be difficult to find cooler

mild jackal Mar 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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What chip are you using now?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Currently a Pentium G3220T

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Can’t handle a Knseies

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K series*

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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lga1150

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yes

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Socket is LGA 1150

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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What size is the case

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do you know?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Can I just send you PC

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Like documents?

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I can post my pc model

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:13 PM

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you can just link product descriptions

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that would work

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:13 PM

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https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/inspiron-20-3048-aio/docs

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There

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Documents

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And stuff

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Of my pc

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Recently upgraded ram to 16GB

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I just think you should move to an aftermarket solution which can support a better chip, and cool your cpu better.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Hm

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Can you give me a suggestion

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Link to my pc model is above

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:14 PM

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huh

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Did you see link above?

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That is my pc model

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And it’s documents

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:15 PM

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oh boy

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its aio monitor

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Like I said

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:15 PM

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didn't realize that

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:15 PM

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All in One Pc

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So any suggestions?

hollow thorn Mar 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yea... It's all discontinued chips that aren't on Newegg... You might have to be at the mercy of ebay or amazon for an old chip

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@warm path what you are seeing now is why i mentioned you needing to actually find one for sale, that actually works earlier

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also, you have talked about a list of maximum supported CPU's

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where did you find a list? @warm path

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Oh

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It’s called

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

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because if it is "just" based on the chipset, then i would personally not trust it

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Ajax/SupportFunction/GetCpuList?Value=238&SocketValue=376&Socket=Intel Socket 1150&Chipest=Intel H81&Type=Chipest

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It’s based on chipset as socket

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And*

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yeah ... no.

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that list is only valid for gigabyte boards, with that specific chipset and gigabytes bios

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Oh

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Wait a minute

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It asked me to fill in my chipset and socket

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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its on gigabytes site

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its their products

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Ik

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Oh

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

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they dont care one iota about for example what a asus h81 mainboard supports

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and unless you know that the mainboard is a gigabyte board?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Oh I see

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

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you are on the all-in-one now right?

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if you are

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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No

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Using my phone

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But yes

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html <- download the zip from the "classic versions" coloumn, unzip to a folder, and run the exe

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time mea...

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I am with it

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I already have it

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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see if that tool wants to tell you what mainboard you actually have

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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And I read the data

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Which one?

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Like chipset

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Socket or what

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

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model

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Oh ok

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Hold on

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Let me go to it

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Ok

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The model is 0HD5k4

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@gritty meadow

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:42 PM

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who is the manufacturer on it?

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Dell

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:42 PM

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hm, 2sec

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:43 PM

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thats an entirely custom mainboard

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:43 PM

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http://www.barebonekit.net/dell-inspiron-20-aio-motherboard-hd5k4_i_mbaiodellhd5k4i.aspx

0HD5K4 CN-0HD5K4 13048-1 | Dell Inspiron 20" Aio Motherboard HD5K4

Lowest price on Dell Inspiron 20" Aio Motherboard HD5K4 Model: 0HD5K4 CN-0HD5K4 13048-1.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Ok

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@gritty meadow

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And what does that mean

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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https://puu.sh/FoPqZ/0c15ed88fd.png

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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that is from the manual for the all-in-one

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that is the official info on support

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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which really doesnt tell us anything actually usefull

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:45 PM

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So no i7 support?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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nope

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Oh man

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Need better clock speed and performance

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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save money, build a new machine

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Hm

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Barely have experience

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Just know how to upgrade ram

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Just planing on upgrading cpu

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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you are very unlikely to find the parts

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:46 PM

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To expand life

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:47 PM

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because we dont have the info for knowing what will actually work.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Hmm

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I can try to find an i3

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Hmm

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:47 PM

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there is no guarantee that anything beyond 1 specific model will work

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and we dont know which i3 that potentially is

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Oh ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:50 PM

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and i just took a look at how many i3 cpus got released in that generation

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there are 18

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and as for your overclocking question in the other channel.

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that is not going to work either

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Oh man

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 5:53 PM

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but, let me just touch briefly on the whole "building your own" debate

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IF you are willing to invest some time in it, it is fairly simple to do.

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so dont let that dissuade you

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Oh man

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 8:07 PM

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How far can the i7-4790K be underclocked/undervolted

midnight pollen Mar 25, 2020, 8:08 PM

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why are you interested in undervolting?

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@warm path it is not going to work in the socket

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it is not about the TDP

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it is about the actual support

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Ah

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Ok

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@midnight pollen just heard it has heat problems

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Don’t wanting it frying chicken c

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Pc*

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 8:13 PM

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i know you really want an upgrade to what you currently have. but imo, the only realistic way you will get that, is IF you somehow can get the actual list of supported 4000 series i3 cpus on that custom dell mainboard in your All-in-one

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there is one other way.

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(which imo is NOT realistic)

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get the full list of the 18 i3's that were released for the 4000 series.

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and start from one end.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 8:16 PM

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by the time you are about 4-5 cpus into that list, you will most likely have spent the same amount of money that a secondhand full machine will cost you.

warm path Mar 25, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks for your help! @gritty meadow

gritty meadow Mar 25, 2020, 9:16 PM

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you are very welcome @warm path

chrome marlin Mar 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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is anyone familiar with the memory Razer is using in their Blade 15" Advanced model?

pastel monolith Mar 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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its 2666 ddr4 sodimm

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no solder you should be able to upgrade both

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of course I am assuming 2019 model

chrome marlin Mar 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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does it come with 1 stick @ 16GB or 2 @ 8?

naive pendant Mar 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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today my screens randomly went black. I noticed that my graphics cards lights and fans were no longer working as well. but my graphics card works fine in my old pc. any ideas if i could fix this? My pcu still works fine (everything else turns on)
any help? lol

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@chrome marlin I believe 2 but you would want to verify that

chrome marlin Mar 26, 2020, 1:45 AM

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@pastel monolith Thanks! I assume it doesn't really matter since I would probably rather buy a matched pair......if that is even still a relevant concern

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 1:46 AM

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it is since you would want to increase the speed and they need to match for dual channel

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Hey guys, I am really struggling with my Dual RAM settings (especially regarding the frequency set-up). Anybody willing to have a look ? https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/fn0dkp/ddr43200_does_not_allow_me/

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Thanks in Advance !

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 3:39 PM

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how do you have the ram arranged.

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@cerulean void

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Slot #1 and Slot #3

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no wrong

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Slot #2 and Slot #4

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 3:41 PM

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have you tried just 1 stick

verbal crown Mar 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Why is memory (RAM) so expensive right now?
Supposedly no one is buying computer components right now. So what's causing the steady increase in price?

crude path Mar 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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no people are buying pc parts like crazy right now

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but also isnt there like a ram shortage or something? or is that only vram?

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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@weak hamlet - good idea, no I haven't. will come back after testig

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@verbal crown - Supply chain difficulties due to Covid-19 further increase the problem. Some retailers already experience the first shortages in supply

crude path Mar 26, 2020, 3:44 PM

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roemus when you select xmp, what voltage does it set the ram to

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@crude path It sets it to 1.35v

crude path Mar 26, 2020, 3:46 PM

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when you go to try the one stick, can you also take a picture of all the settings in the xmp profile?

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Will def do so !

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https://u.cubeupload.com/Remy/IMG5438.jpg

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To clarify, those are not what you are looking for ?

crude path Mar 26, 2020, 3:50 PM

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your timings should be set to 16 20 20 38

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according to your pcpp list at least

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what timing is shown on your actual ram?

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it might be on a label on the ram stick, if not it should be on the packaging

cerulean void Mar 26, 2020, 3:54 PM

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@crude path That is news to me, let me dive into that and test all the things mentioned !

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Thanks, and see you soon 🙂

crude path Mar 26, 2020, 3:54 PM

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ok good luck 🙂

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Does anyone know how hot the K series Intel CPU run?

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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depends on the specific model

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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there are a lot of k series intel chips

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Ah

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@warm path the intel ARK site i linked you to yesterday has numbers on it for that

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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So the i9-9900KS is hotter than i9-990K

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Ok

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Ik*

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Just want to know exact temp

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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kinda, yes-ish

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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not neccesarilly

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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it depends on the cooler that is used

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Hm

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Ok

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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at stock i guess yes with same cooler

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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On stock

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It’s hot

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Right?

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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since one comes OC-ed

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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basher / you have many questions being asked at the same time

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah ok

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Sorry for being hasty

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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nothing to be sorry about

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but we cannot answer all of them at the same time

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Just curious

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Ik

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:28 PM

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we have to make certain you understand each part of them, because the answer to one relies on the answer to the other

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Oh I see

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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have you got the ability to join a voice chat channel here?

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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No

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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because i can easily talk your ears off about this

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I am good

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I personally would go with a 9900k and hope for the best over getting a 9900ks

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unless the price was really close or something

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Yeah

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You could basically over lock both

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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odds are you can OC it the same unless the silicon lottery hates you

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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The ks is a basically overclocked k

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That what it seems like

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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LTTs 9900ks they tested couldnt OC as high as the 9900k they had

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yes-ish

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nilboggen had it right the first time around

cerulean nova Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Isnt the ks just supposed to be better silicon?

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Lol

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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its silicon lottery

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I would say so

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Dragocor "supposed" is the keyword

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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see you would think the ks would be better silicon but thats not the whole story

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Hm

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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lets not get into the leakage statistics etc

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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for now, lets just say "silicon lottery"

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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basically if it passes the oc test at factory for 5.0 it can become a ks but that doesnt mean its any better than its k bound brothers

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Ye

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:34 PM

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and i say the following with all respect.

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you dont need to know about leakage etc

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:34 PM

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lol

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on the plus side if you buy either cpu you will have a great experience

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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IF you can cool it

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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very true

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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it is a very miserable experience if you cant

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:36 PM

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The Ks has a higher voltage

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At a TDP of 127

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13544/why-intel-processors-draw-more-power-than-expected-tdp-turbo <- start here @warm path

Why Intel Processors Draw More Power Than Expected: TDP and Turbo E...

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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it really would be better silicon if came at 5.0ghz on all cores with no increased voltage lol

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Ok

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Yeah

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Agreed

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:37 PM

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that is only true is limited context Nil

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lets say you have a part that was never intended to go to 5ghz

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then the parts that can, with extra voltage, go there. are the good (lucky) silicon

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yeah still wouldnt make it better

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Wow

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I saw

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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mine runs at a scary voltage 🤫

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Only at base clock

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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that is because you are applying a different context for the evaluation @pastel monolith

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if the end goal for one evaluation is: must be able to get to 5ghz

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and the other evaluation has: must be able to get to 5ghz at X low voltage

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then it is not the same comparison anymore

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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yeah my end evaluation would be trying to reach as high as it could which while doing it at a lower voltage is desirable isnt really the same thing as being able to go higher

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:40 PM

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aye

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@cerulean void how'd it go?

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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its a nice mess to talk about too :)

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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shuddup nard.

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I mean naed.

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typo

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I like it though.

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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right, sure!!

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Can I call you Nard from now on 😛

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:42 PM

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you could do that Boxies

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:44 PM

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my biggest issue right now is that my newest custom loop is worse at cooling than the aio I replaced 😭

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I think I have an issue with the pump...

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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you still never showed me your case.

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er build.

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:47 PM

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thats because its a failure lol

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my cpu is like 10 degrees hotter at idle now 😦

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I still wanna seee 😦

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:49 PM

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you are really living up to the "lurker in a box" title that you have

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:53 PM

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📎 pcpicforbox.png

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the flexible tubes arent permanent

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📎 long_tubes.png

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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nice "rampant" squid look

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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part of the problem might be that i made the tubes so long

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but it made everything easier and I want to switch to hard tubing

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at a later date

tacit hemlock Mar 26, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I think that uniform tubing is nice looking and all but it would also look pretty cool if someone made like an itx build in an atx case but used all the extra space to make like a pattern outta the lengthy tubing

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:00 PM

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like wrap it around the case like cthulhus trying to get out lol

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@weak hamlet better look now because I'm not posting it again until I get the hard tubing in lol

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Nilboggin

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I love it

tacit hemlock Mar 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Or like make a custom track for it and secure it to the extra space in the case and then make any kind of pattern you want. You could also accent it with leds and cover them with like plastic so they look likes stars or something idk I'm just rambling now

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I know that case makes my board look like an itx but its just a huge case lol

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Nil, this is from many years ago, but there was a server case that had all the tubing at the edges

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so, if you imagine all your struts having tubing along them

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:06 PM

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that would be cool

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:07 PM

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back then, tubing was just black

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and no coloured liquid

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but yeah, i hope you get the point :)

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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look at this nightmare

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📎 liquid-cooled-pc-7.jpg

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its like but why....

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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old school pic

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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aye

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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thats some diy old skool cooling

weak hamlet Mar 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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yeah it is lol

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:10 PM

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that looks like pci-x66 slots

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:10 PM

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dual socket cpus i believe

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:10 PM

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aye

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:10 PM

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like mid to late 90's if I had to guess

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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could be early 00's fairly easily

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we had a bunch of dual socket stuff at that time [edit: had]

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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yeah I had a buddy that had one I never did 😦

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 6:11 PM

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:)

mild jackal Mar 26, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Ya, something similar to AMD's quad fx platform, but earlier.

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 7:09 PM

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aye

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Who knows a Pc that has 4 CPUs

pastel monolith Mar 26, 2020, 7:49 PM

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lots of server boards

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 7:57 PM

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https://www.supermicro.com/CDS_Image/uploads/imagecache/600px_wide/intel_motherboard_active/x11qpl_top.jpg

midnight pollen Mar 26, 2020, 8:04 PM

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jeez that is crazy

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Crazy

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That’s for a server right?

quaint current Mar 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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yeah

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Let me guess

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4 Xeons can go in there

midnight pollen Mar 26, 2020, 8:19 PM

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that is an absolute monster

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:19 PM

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correct basher

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Damn

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112 Cores

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Imagine having 112 Cores

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In your PC

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Also

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Who knows a good Clock Speed 4th gen Intel chip

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Just emailed my manufacturer @gritty meadow

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So no worries

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Who knows one?

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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they are going to tell you a variation on the following: please look into getting something that is from this decade

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Just so I can look for it on the list

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Hmmmm

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Ok

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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4th gen is not being made anymore

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has not been for many years now

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Well I see some

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Nvm

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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yes, they are leftover random pieces

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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True

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So know any good clock speed ones on sell?

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So I can look for it on list manufacturer gives me

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Just in case they give list

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So any to recommend?

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Just in case I get list

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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recommendations are invalid until you have the list of supported models

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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No no no

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I mean like

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List them here

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I look in lost

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List

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Then I compare

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 PM

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why should i list all the i3's from the 4th gen?

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because all of them would be an upgrade

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except, only a few (most likely) will be supported by your board

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Oh ok

gritty meadow Mar 26, 2020, 8:29 PM

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https://www.techarp.com/computer/desktop-cpu-comparison-guide/11/ <- have a look there

Tech ARP

Dr. Adrian Wong

The Tech ARP Desktop CPU Comparison Guide Rev. 20

There are so many desktop CPU models that it has become quite impossible to keep up with the different models or even remember their specifications! Therefore, we decided to compile this guide to prov

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the picture on that page

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about 75% of the way down

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what you are asking for starts with the Core i3-4130

warm path Mar 26, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Ok

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Now to wait for manufacturer reply

warm path Mar 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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@gritty meadow

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I heard that Intel uses same stock cooler on same socket pc

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Am I seeing those right? Or Am I wrong?

oak sand Mar 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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@warm path it depends the unlocked versions dont have it, locked do.

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What cpu

warm path Mar 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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No

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I mean like the cooler

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I also heard they used to use same one with k series

oak sand Mar 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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K has none

warm path Mar 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ik

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I mean back then

oak sand Mar 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ohhhh

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My b

warm path Mar 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I7-4790K comes with cooler

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And I heard it same cooler as other LGA1150 Socket cpu

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That intel makes

oak sand Mar 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Probably, its the same socket so why would it be different