#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 80

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:00 PM

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So

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So you mention you have an i5, but what model? It could be an i5 2500k, or an i5 9600k

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Also, try and send a clear picture of the mobo, I could read the part number and figure it out from there. https://puu.sh/Eg6UG/0b08aca873.png

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📎 JPEG_20190911_170140.jpg

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That clear?

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Much better, thanks.

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Np

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Do ineed an new mobo

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Could you send another showing the entire board?

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Idk yet, is the CPU blank? Where did you buy it from?

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Newegg

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:03 PM

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50$ CPU on newegg ThinkingEgg

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:03 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190911_170326.jpg

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No

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Not 50

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12

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i3/i5/i7 is like saying BMW M5. BMW has made many generations of M5, Intel has made 9 different generations of i5.

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12

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Dollars

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;-;

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You can't replace that CPU, it's embedded.

shy wyvern Sep 11, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Rip*

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:04 PM

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I knew it would be an embedded board for one reason

shy wyvern Sep 11, 2019, 10:04 PM

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It's soldered to the board?

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:04 PM

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the memory

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yes it is like an all in one type of system

shy wyvern Sep 11, 2019, 10:04 PM

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That's the biggest oof

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I got kicked

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;-;

thorny gate Sep 11, 2019, 10:07 PM

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yea i see no memory or nothing looks to me like you gotta start from scratch

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@thorny gate if you're talking about his board look at the top which is mounted like it would be in a laptop

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:10 PM

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So i wasted 12 dollars

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Just to start from acratch

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This is bs

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Just buy a new board for it and also what is the CPU to begin with

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:12 PM

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An i5

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

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i5 what

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Idk

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:13 PM

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There is a lot that i remember

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:14 PM

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My dad said he ao t buying a mobo

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For me

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Well you need to know what i5 you got first before buying a motherboard for it

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Well im not getting an mobo

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:16 PM

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What is the CPU in that all in one then?

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:16 PM

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An amd proccescor

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:16 PM

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ok which one

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Idk

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I saw the sodimms originally, but that doesn't 100% mean embeded CPU so I wanted to be sure by checking mobo model, or well, removing the cooler works too.

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So remove

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My gpu

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dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:19 PM

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What GPU i didn't see a dedicated one on there

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Oh

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Thatd my fan then

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:20 PM

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@naive pendant it looks almost like a laptop CPU

shy wyvern Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Its soldered like one.

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

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not 100% sure

shy wyvern Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I've never seen a soldered desktop cpu actually.

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I have a few times

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my old mini system had one

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but then again it was a mini system

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

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So

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Imma have to get a whole new pc

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Well what are you playing anyways?

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depending on what you plan on playing you can save a lot of money

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I planon playing five

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Fivem

dusk oracle Sep 11, 2019, 10:28 PM

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So GTA V

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just build a system using a 2400G/3400G

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you would be able to play on normal settings just fine

naive pendant Sep 11, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Ion come froma very rich family i was even lucky for my dad to buy me a cpu

oblique steeple Sep 11, 2019, 11:34 PM

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3400G has decent integrated graphics. You'd save some $100-200 vs a budget GPU.

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Soooo. I’m not a fool for going Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi for my 3900x right?

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The ATX.

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I do have a use case for WiFi

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Ya, that board has a robust VRM setup, plenty for even an OC'd 3900x. The smaller version, less so.

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More correctly, the X570I Aorus Pro Wifi, the X570 Aorus Pro [Wi-Fi] is the one you have?

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Well, I mean, I’d be getting the smaller one, but, compromises.

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Yes. The $270, full sized ATX one.

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Disappointed the Asrock only has one m.2

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(Asrock mITX)

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:45 AM

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I kinda wanted the 2 dimm X570I pro for memory oc, but meh. The new x570 Asus Impact* is absurd

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Mmm. I’ve heard little positive stuff about ASUS this wave though.

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Really? I've heard great things about the x570 TUF, the X570 Pro P's that use those new MOSFETs , C8H seems decent. I have the x570 master and I just wish GB did a better job supporting launch bios's as well as quality control on the other boards, elite, pro, ultra, etc.

vital field Sep 12, 2019, 12:47 AM

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i have the gigabyte z390 auros pro wifi and i havent had any issues with it yet. only complaints really that i have about the board is the weird placement of the 3.0 and 3.2/usb-c for the io

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Interesting!

gentle lintel Sep 12, 2019, 12:48 AM

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The big issue with the stuff this time around was amd's bios combo.

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:48 AM

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(The Impact board)

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:48 AM

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The z390 Aorus elite, pro, ultra, master would be my pick for a $<300 z390. Fantastic VRM even if the bios isn't as comfortable as Asus.

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Ya, a lot of the blame falls on AMD and the both numerous, yet still unfixed AGESA revisions, some of which could be kinda harmful.

vital field Sep 12, 2019, 12:54 AM

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now i remember, for the gigabyte aorus z390 not sure if its with the x570 also, but the screws for the m.2's dont screw down all the way so the covers can move slightly

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Even with the standoff? Weird

vital field Sep 12, 2019, 12:55 AM

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yeah, screwed all the way down, there's a bit of leeway

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 12:57 AM

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interesting, being an intel person (and haven't built a system in years) AGESA isn't too familiar to me.

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(I mostly work / exist in med -> large enterprise IT automation...)

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I've been since 2007 or so, unsure if I want to keep this x570/3700x as a daily. Will have to see how ABBA revision holds up

wind igloo Sep 12, 2019, 1:40 AM

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RAM - https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331248

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that good enough for mild OC and such?

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 6:22 AM

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For $10 more, anything on this list is top tier. I spam post in the #overclocking channel often with the same kits. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600546709 600561668 600006072&Order=PRICE

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For budget, you can OC this to 3600c16 not too hard. I also got a kit of this if you wanna see the OC haha.
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164107

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 7:06 AM

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BF V

carmine shale Sep 12, 2019, 7:13 AM

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hello whats happn here guys?

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 7:16 AM

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Depends on what FPS you're chasing, but ya. I need to organize my benchmark screenshots, but BF V ate 65% avg over an hours of a 9700k 5.0 no AVX, 4133c17 on mem, 2080 ti +1000mem, +150 core, 140 fps cap, 110? fps 1%ile low maybe

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DX11 low latency mode + some console settings / affinity masks set with powershell scrips though

thorny gate Sep 12, 2019, 7:36 PM

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u have a 2080ti and u only got 140 frames?

naive pendant Sep 12, 2019, 10:36 PM

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ordering some gskill trident z royals tonight

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BF V is hard to drive at high settings much farther above that. By 140 cap, I meant that I capped the framerate to 140 fps using RTSS since the in-game limite is too inconsistent.

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From what I've seen from the blurbusters research and community consensus, those settings add an insignificant amount of input lag vs the benefit to motion handling performance.

upper hinge Sep 12, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Anybody have any feedback or have the MSI MAG b450 tomahawk?

fallen cairn Sep 12, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I'm new to this Discord server. I'm looking for a bit of help troubleshooting a new build. Is this the right channel to ask for help?

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It's with a CPU/MB/Memory

limber warren Sep 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I specifically might not be the guy to help but ya I would say so

fallen cairn Sep 12, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Bought a board/chip/memory: ASRock B450M/AC AM4, Ryzen 5 1600 , OLOy WarHawk DDR4 3200 memory.

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Will not POST. Beep code says bad CPU.

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CPU RMAd, got a replacement. Exact same thing. Won't POST. Beep code = Bad CPU.

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All of this is after the first go round when it wouldn't POST and I RMAd all three.

dusk elk Sep 12, 2019, 11:35 PM

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THeoretically, what will be better 3950x or 9900k/kf

limber warren Sep 12, 2019, 11:43 PM

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@dusk elk I would say in pretty much everything 3950x but there might be something that makes the 9900k better at something, which makes no sense, but it’s not up to me

finite stag Sep 13, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Hi everyone. Any suggestions on a motherboard for more than one Intel Core i9 9980XE? Could be a rack-mount server system too.

naive pendant Sep 13, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@limber warren what

opaque laurel Sep 13, 2019, 3:00 AM

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trying to decide on a Ryzen for my current gaming build. I'm thinking a Ryzen 5 3600x, but I'm wondering if it'd be worth shelling out the extra 100~ bucks for a Ryzen 7 3700x, I'm just not sure if the extra 2 cores (and hundred bucks) are really going to show any extra performance gaming. Anyone have any insight?

naive pendant Sep 13, 2019, 3:09 AM

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best value perf/$ is 3600 > 3700x>3900x >>>3950x. 3600x does get the wraith spire vs stealth, but heat sinks last 10+ years if you don't break them, TBH I'd ebay whatever you get and put it towards something cool, quiet, and hopefully RGB enough to post in build chat

opaque laurel Sep 13, 2019, 3:10 AM

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LOL yeah. I've already got a corsair 150h pro AIO, so cooling shouldn't be too much an issue

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My budget is limiting my GPU to a 2070 super, so I'm a little concerned that 8 cores might be overkill and my GPU will end up a bottleneck as well

urban ferry Sep 13, 2019, 3:14 AM

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8 cores is not overkill

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especially if you want to stream or video edit

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if youre just gaming the 3600x will be great

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or 3600

opaque laurel Sep 13, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Really? I always thought that with 8 cores and a 2070 super, the GPU would end up bottlenecking

hasty marsh Sep 13, 2019, 4:13 AM

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no no

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thats plenty

naive pendant Sep 13, 2019, 4:49 AM

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It

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Depends

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On the game

quaint lantern Sep 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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CAn anyone give me some insight between the efficiency of a ryzen 3900x vs an i9-9900kf for something like cadd and also used for gaming on the pc? which would be a better option to go with? the cadd program is Revit and the Autodesk suite.

urban ferry Sep 13, 2019, 7:37 PM

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id get 3900x

cobalt dock Sep 13, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Hello everyone, getting ready to build my first computer in 4 or 5 years and I see a lot has changed. My computer will be primarily used for photography and photoshop using large files. I am looking at the i9-9900 for a cpu and the Samsung 970 Pro for an SSD, my big question is what should I be looking for in a video card and a motherboard.

hasty marsh Sep 13, 2019, 11:37 PM

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"4-5 years"

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if you're gonna wait that long, might as well just wait for better and newer pc parts in the future

cobalt dock Sep 13, 2019, 11:39 PM

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my current computer keeps crashing, Using an i7 CPU, only 16GB of ram, motherboard won't allow any more ram

harsh plank Sep 13, 2019, 11:45 PM

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I've been looking into different motherboards for a ryzen 3600 build, I was originally looking at the b450 tomahawk but I've recently come across the msi x570 gaming plus, which would be a better choice?

civic narwhal Sep 14, 2019, 1:20 AM

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the b450 tomahawk MAX is coming out soon

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I'm waiting for that

dusk oracle Sep 14, 2019, 1:24 AM

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📎 tenor_2.gif

quaint lantern Sep 14, 2019, 2:08 AM

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What is a solid 570 mobo for a 3900x?

shadow seal Sep 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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all of gigabytes stuff I know is good

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specially the master

urban ferry Sep 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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gigabyte x570 gaming x i heard is good

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master is probably better

toxic ravine Sep 14, 2019, 2:49 AM

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If an amd MOBO has a ready for ryzen 3000 sticker on it, does that mean that I don’t have to use the bios flashback option, or does that mean it’s ready for me to update it

naive pendant Sep 14, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Don't get an x570 gaming x for a 3900x. The aorus elite or Asus TUF are as low as you'd want to go for a 3900x, the master and Asus crosshair 8 hero are great, but pricey.

vital ridge Sep 14, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I have an ASRock Z370M-ITX, the USB 3.0s went out and fried all of the USBs on the attached devices. USB 2s and rest of board OK. I am looking for a replacement ITX that I can use the existing components to populate the new board with. Any recommendations?

plain oxide Sep 14, 2019, 2:27 PM

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is there any need for a cpu with integrated graphics if you already have a good gpu?

trim whale Sep 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Best AMD cpu under 200$?

slender fossil Sep 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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3600 id assume

trim whale Sep 14, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Ok, it says it has compatibility issues with the B450M Steel Legend

trim whale Sep 14, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Cool lol

naive pendant Sep 14, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Some motherboards may need a bios update, with that, some you update without a cpu or memory.

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Check the far right column. https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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hey all was wondering if someone can help me with a cpu upgrade recommendation --- i have an old Asrock X99 Extreme Mobo with a Intel Core i7-5820K -- Looking to get another CPU that works well on this board -- but trying to get into video editing -- i got a budget of about $600-700

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Are you open to upgrading the motherboard as well as the cpu? There are only a few options for upgrades, but the performance gain would be too small to justify the cost in my opinion.
On the bright side, your current chip sells for easily $100+, the board might as well.

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For $600, a Ryzen 3600 for $200, x570 board combo for~250, leaves a bit extra for a new m.2 NVME boot drive.

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:34 PM

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hmm yeah i guess i could do that -- was trying to avoid it -- having to reinstall windows and reinstalling my current workflow

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:35 PM

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If you're interested in overclocking, the 5820k is one of those chips that have a relatively large amount of headroom.
https://puu.sh/EhvkR/70f0685015.png

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:42 PM

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oh didnt know that i guess that can be something i can try

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i have an i9 9900k on the way here that i was going to return

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any recommendations for a mobo upgrade

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if i go that route

violet smelt Sep 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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so, I'm not too familiar with Intel but i got a build request from my friend who just wants to play Fortnite on 140+ fps. He also doesn't want to have it overly expensive so I decided 9700k with a z370 Mobo. What should I look for in a z370 for a decent one at a good cost?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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9900k + z390 board for video editing? Sure, any brand preference?

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:45 PM

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something solid, and that works 😄

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the only other thing i do is just play pubg on pc

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Any of the Asus hero, code, formula, Strix z390-F, or the Gigabyte Aorus (anything) would be my pick

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Asus boards have a nicer bios and somewhat better support, but the gigabyte aorus elite, pro, and especially the ultra and master have superior hardware - which only really matters if you want to overclock and run the chip hard on long renders or something.

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If video editing > pubg, get an x570 + 3900x for the same cost and nearly 50% faster rendering vs 9900k stock.

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:51 PM

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😲

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wow

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that 3900 is sweet

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similar price point

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looks like it crushes the 9900k

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Pretty much ya. It's been sold out since release haha.

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:55 PM

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holy

violet smelt Sep 15, 2019, 3:55 PM

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has anyone ever gotten the refurbs from newegg and had success?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I've bought at least one open box item that I remember

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 3:56 PM

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ahh its never just as simple as upgrading

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lol

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upgrading one part*

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 3:59 PM

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What asrock extreme do you have btw? the 3 , 6 11?

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@violet smelt I wouldn't seek out a z370 board specifically, in fact I'd recommend ryzen 3600/3700x/3900x + b450 or x570 board

violet smelt Sep 15, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I prefer Ryzen myself. And I'm thinking of going that route.

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3700X with B450. and a GTX 1660 ti should have him gaming Fortnite over 120FPS for sure.

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I prefer Intel and I still recommend ryzen to most, hard to beat for price/performance.

violet smelt Sep 15, 2019, 4:02 PM

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ikr?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Ya, or even a 3600. 3700x is nearly exactly the same gaming performance for 61% more $$. Some games like BF V or single PC streaming will benefit from the 20% more cores but meh. You get a better heat sink though.

violet smelt Sep 15, 2019, 4:04 PM

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valid point

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i have the asrock extreme4

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x99 extreme4

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Hey @naive pendant just wanted to say thanks, appreciate your input

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:26 PM

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No problem. TBH I should probably just say "3600 good" vs block of text about z390 boards.

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 4:26 PM

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lol

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@naive pendant any opinion on the xeon cpus

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with multiple cores

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for what im doing (on my existing board)

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Xeon's in consumer builds aren't really a thing these days. We have z390 /9900k, and then one level up from that is HEDT x299 with the 9980xe etc 18 cores, 44? pcie lanes

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Then the various xeons either single or multi processor.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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For an x570 mobo, which would be the best option: Asus crosshair viii hero, asus strix 570-e gaming, gigabyte aorus elite, or gigabyte aorus pro?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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But AMD just launched Epyc... so if you do have $10000 or so to build an editing rig, nice....

south socket Sep 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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haha naw 😛

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i wish

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was just looking at the aorus pro reviews

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they seem pretty atrocious

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 4:44 PM

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hmmm, the msi prestige creation is an option also im open to, but im not sure which one would the best choice

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Yep, the elite/pro are great on paper, but not always 100% in practice. Some issues have been ironed out, the ultra/master don't experience as many as far as I can tell.

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A good way to gauge this kind of stuff is just browsing either the aorus forums/subreddit/discord or the "x570 aorus motherboard owners thread" or equivalent on overclock.net

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I'm trying to get a build ironed out for a gaming/workstation that the focus will be an autodesk program. So far im looking at the 3900x with a 2080ti but not sure as far as components

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autodesk cadd program*

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Pretty much every brand has a good offering around $300 or $350+, definitely comes down to feature preference. Bios is huge one for me.

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Autocad et all is pretty much single thread performance limited most of the time, but the 3900x would still be my pick. If you can find one for msrp. If you have >1000 parts in a solidworks build, community consensus is get 32GB ram vs 16

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 4:51 PM

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oh yeah the Revit program is ram heavy from what i see. and their page says that program benefits from multiple cores @naive pendant

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I was honestly just going to go through ibuypower or cyberpower to have them build it and get it here quick because i need to start getting into the programs. I'd love to build it myself but time is of the essence @naive pendant

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Oof, well, I certainly encourage you to "join the club" , but I understand that some people who don't enjoy this kind of stuff or have the time for it are best suited by a high quality pre-built.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

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I went to school originally for electronics and can do a build but sadly time is a restriction at this point. I've done builds for friends and love it and the savings can be decent too. but within the next week ill be ordering and needing it here . So im limited to the options of a build site. Just trying to figure out which site to go with that has the best options to build optimal/price

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Stil thinking 3900x 2080 ti? That's a pretty serious system, to get quality stuff I'd guess $3000+ from a major vendor, at least.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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yeah my budget is around $4k

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:10 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/fspL23 Overkill in some places, but that's what $4k gets

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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this is what i was looking at on there https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8yvLCb

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Do you have a preference for Gigabyte/Aorus?

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:14 PM

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nope lol, not at all. Ive heard decent things about them and asus

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:15 PM

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The aorus elite is kinda the minimum you'd want for a 3900x board. Solid VRM, but not much else.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:16 PM

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so go with the crosshair?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Monitor, case, cooler, are very much personal prefernce. I don't have too much input on that. If you get an AIO, do so because you like the looks, not because you think it's better.

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For a $4k build, I'd invest a bit more in PSU/mobo. that memory is Hynix CJR probably, wouldn't surprise me if the board doesn't like it much. 970 evo for boot is fine, 660p is good for a data drive, doesn't like mixed i/o or much sustained write.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:21 PM

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hmm so what would you recommend?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I'm partial to EVGA stuff due to their warranty and customer service as long as they components perform well. For example, I picked an EVGA GPU (I have the same one) , but not a 850 T2 (I also have this) and instead went for the seasonic , higher quality unit imo.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Should i move this chat to a different channel by the way? What about for ram? I'm unsure really what solid parts are out there and to look for/stay away from

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Also i saw the hybrid gpu because things may get graphics intensive and wasnt sure if that would be a bonus to have it to stay cool

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:31 PM

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In my experience, no.

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19912245 fixed
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8508164
https://hwbot.org/user/forks/

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:34 PM

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So you have an insane running setup

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:36 PM

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No, those are mostly bench settings, but to be fair, your build is somewhat similar.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:40 PM

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would the system need 1000w psu? or 850 plenty?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 5:41 PM

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It'd need 373 max from that particular GPU, maybe 200W? from the CPU, really depends. To clarify, you can get a lot of performance for way less than 4k

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Like, a $1000 ryzen 3600 build, it just won't game as well, but PUBG is great on Nvidia now

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 5:43 PM

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The big concern is being able to load/run huge CADD files from revit and be able to draw and use it properly. Gaming is secondary really

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@naive pendant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rkcZBb something like that seem better overall?

naive pendant Sep 15, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Sure, I can't imagine you'd be unhappy with that build.

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Well im on a 6700k and a 1070 currently so it should feel a wee bit faster XD

quaint lantern Sep 15, 2019, 6:31 PM

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@naive pendant thanks for all the help. Appreciate it. Looks like I'll just wait and order all the parts and build it over ordering.

crimson rapids Sep 16, 2019, 1:14 AM

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hey guys i'm working on a new gaming build. my CPU budget is about $350 anyone have a good recommendation ? looking for one that can stream well as well as handle playing games such as apex and overwatch

urban ferry Sep 16, 2019, 1:19 AM

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id just get an xbox or playstation

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xbox preferably, has built in mixer streaming

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also keyboard and mouse support for some games

topaz kayak Sep 16, 2019, 4:53 PM

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is this motherboard is compatible with the ryzen 3600: https://www.newegg.ca/msi-arsenal-gaming-b450m-bazooka-v2/p/N82E16813144232R?Item=N82E16813144232R

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because its said 2nd generation AM$ but Ryzen 3600 is the 3rd generation...

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AM4

quaint lantern Sep 16, 2019, 5:14 PM

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@naive pendant Alright ive done some reading and watching reviews and I'm torn on a mobo. The Asus ROG Crosshair 8 hero, or the Gigabyte x570 Aorus Master. The Aorus master seems to have cooler temperatures due to all the heatsinks on the front and back along with a 12 power phases. While the Crosshair is just a tad warmer running and runs 8 phase power. I don't know much about that stuff as far as those go. Any input on which choose anyone? Crosshair or Master? (for a 3900x)

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 4:11 AM

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What's your guys opinion? Ryzen 3 2200g vs ryzen 3 3200g 🤔

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This is for a build using integrated graphics

hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 4:50 AM

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how much is the 3200g again

grizzled holly Sep 17, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@hasty marsh 100$

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Does the MSI B450 Tomahawk have 5V connectors aka work with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HK7YRCD/ those?

hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 4:53 AM

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and the 2200g is lower than 90 im presuming?

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since i was looking into that for a budget build i wanted to do long ago

grizzled holly Sep 17, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Yes

hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 4:53 AM

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oh wow its only 80

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its dropped a bit

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def the 3200g is worthit

grizzled holly Sep 17, 2019, 4:54 AM

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https://computercity.com/products/amd-yd2200c5fbbox?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw5fzrBRASEiwAD2OSV6GjTi8bKdAT5L0xNLIN14F3OPQXJOir58ED35CI-l_P11DPgOvgGxoCJOcQAvD_BwE

ComputerCity

AMD YD2200C5FBBOX Ryzen 3 2200G With Wraith Stealth Cooler

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hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 4:54 AM

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the beginning of 2019 the 2200g was 95 almost 100, now thats replaced with the 3200g, so thats def the go to budget build

grizzled holly Sep 17, 2019, 4:54 AM

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@hasty marsh Do you know if the Tomahawk has 5V pins?

hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 4:55 AM

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i remember looking into that as a choice for my build

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let me check

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two 12V 4 Pin RGB connectors is what it has

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if you want to know more, you can go on the mb website

grizzled holly Sep 17, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Okay thanks!

hasty marsh Sep 17, 2019, 5:00 AM

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anytime

true perch Sep 17, 2019, 5:15 AM

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I am looking for help upgrading RAM on my laptop

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I have a HP Elitebook 8540w

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I am able to go from 2x 2gb to 2x4gb

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2GB, PC3-10600, shared DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM Small Outline Dual In-Line Memory Module (SODIMM)

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Any help is appreciated!

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 5:57 AM

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@hasty marsh Those fans he wants he would need to power them on the PSU since the board he wants and keeps pushing people to get doesn't have a argb connector

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Also from what i can see it also doesn't come with a remote and the pin layout they slapped on there is wrong

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 6:57 AM

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@hasty marsh just checked discord since I first asked the question lol thanks for the second opinion 👌🏼

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 6:59 AM

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@hallow flint The 3200G has a better iGPU but if you are going with a B450 board you have to make sure you are able to update the bios

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 7:23 AM

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@dusk oracle it can boot without a bios update right? And then I can update bios with the manufacturer website?

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 7:24 AM

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If the board is Ryzen 3000 ready it can but there is a way to update the bios without the APU i just forgot what it is called

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i believe theo knows what it is called

shadow seal Sep 17, 2019, 7:25 AM

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it has to have bios flashback i think its called

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if its a b450 board unless its one of the brand new ones, than it wont have the code to run the 3k chips

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 7:26 AM

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So then it cant boot right off the bat without a bios update?

shadow seal Sep 17, 2019, 7:26 AM

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no

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Thas a RIP, I'm assuming a bios update is possible through like a flash drive though isnt it

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Well there is a good amount that has the bios flashback

shadow seal Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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amd has a program you can sign up for where they send you an old am4 loaner chip to update and then you send it back

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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and affordable one's

shadow seal Sep 17, 2019, 7:27 AM

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and yea its flashed through a special usually white color coded port that says bios on it

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and it can be flashed that way

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if it doesnt have flash back your stuck unless you send it to like frys or best buy to update the bios

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or someone that would have a loaner chip to use

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Or contact AMD for them to send over the 200GE to update the bios

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@hallow flint If you were to buy a board without the flashback you would contact AMD which you would give them information on the board you have which they will send over to you the 200GE to update your bios so you can use the 3200G and also you have to mail it back to them

blissful dragon Sep 17, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Is this ugly? @ me yes or no

📎 image0.png

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Cooler Master MA G100M RGB Low Profile CPU Air Cooler, Copper Heat Column Technology, 92mm RGB Ring Fan if you were wondering

quaint current Sep 17, 2019, 3:10 PM

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tbh yeah

dusk oracle Sep 17, 2019, 3:11 PM

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depends on the tower as well

hallow flint Sep 17, 2019, 4:08 PM

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@blissful dragon it looks pretty cool imo but it really really depends on how the rest of the build looks in terms of aesthetics

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Cause making it match with stuff would be cool but it would stick out pretty bad if you didn't

weak hamlet Sep 17, 2019, 6:24 PM

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if you see it from the top down it's probably ok. doubt youll be looking at it from that angle.

warm berry Sep 17, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Nah it’s ugly imo

grizzled holly Sep 18, 2019, 12:29 AM

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@true perch I'd just save up for a desktop PC but you need to open up the bottom side of the laptop and see the slots for the motherboard for RAM

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Then we can tell

mint pasture Sep 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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Do you need a cpu for the b450 pro mobo to power on the gpu, case fans, and case lights?

dusk oracle Sep 18, 2019, 5:16 PM

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yes

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What are you going to do on a system without a CPU?

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@mint pasture That is like asking if a Mustang can run without the motor

sharp blaze Sep 18, 2019, 5:20 PM

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can a mustang run even if it has a motor

dusk oracle Sep 18, 2019, 5:22 PM

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It can if you have horses pulling it 😛

sharp blaze Sep 18, 2019, 5:23 PM

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I bought a ford, regret it almost every day

dusk oracle Sep 18, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Good thing you didn't buy a Fiat

sharp blaze Sep 18, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I tried getting some of the problems fixed under warranty and service said ford corporate told them it was normal and that they were able to recreate the issue with other cars on the lot. I asked them if the wheels fell off the cars going down the road on all their cars that doesnt make it not a problem. The guy just stared at me for a second and said your not wrong, but you have to deal with ford if you want to pursue the issue.

buoyant notch Sep 18, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Fords are great vehicles

dusk oracle Sep 18, 2019, 5:29 PM

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for drag racing

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going down a mountain a Toyota can beat it 😛

frosty flame Sep 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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fords achieve pretty impressive speeds

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when falling into the scrap metal hopper at the plant

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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18-22-22-42 or 18-19-19-39 will i be able to notice a difference between the two timings?

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 12:49 AM

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in real world use, probably not

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in synthetic benchmarks yes

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:01 AM

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is it worth it to take the risk on this ram because there is one review where some dude couldn't get it up to 3600 and it would only go to 3200CL 18 so it was a lot slower

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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what cpu will it go with

urban ferry Sep 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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oc 3200 to 3600 if you feel like you need it

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boom

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:15 AM

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ryzen really performs better with lower latency ram and higher speed, but anything over 3000mhz on ryzen 2000 or 1000 could require some tweaking. ryzen 3000 is much better with ram compatibility.

strong wadi Sep 19, 2019, 1:16 AM

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@sharp blaze is CL16 3600 good?

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And what if I get it to 14?

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That good for Zen2?

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@sharp blaze I will use the 3700X and I want I see that 3600 CL18 is better then 3200 CL16

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:17 AM

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CL16 3600 could be a variety of different chips so getting it to cl14 may or may not happen.

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:17 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jPndn7 is parts list

naive pendant Sep 19, 2019, 1:18 AM

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creepa aww man

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:19 AM

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with a 3700x I would probably get the 3600 ram and hope that you can manually tweak the timings if you want. if you get 3200 ram the only way to know you are getting good chips is if its cl14

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:21 AM

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i mean will it make a difference like do you think i should tweak my parts list @sharp blaze

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:22 AM

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to get any better ram you would probably have to spend another $40 or $50 at minimum

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:24 AM

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😫 my budget is set and i cant spend more idk will it cuz problems and what would you recemend

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Just check and see if the ram is on the qvl for your motherboard, or if corsair has a qvl for your motherboard.

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if its not on the list it could be problematic, or it could just mean that they didnt test it.

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:27 AM

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i am using the Asus Tuf x570 wifi

sharp blaze Sep 19, 2019, 1:28 AM

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on my 2700x I noticed a decent gain overclocking my 3200ram to 3400mhz @ 16-18-18. The average frame rates didnt really go up much, but it doesnt seem to drop as low as it did before.

dusk jay Sep 19, 2019, 1:29 AM

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oh cool, i think my ram will work with my mobo but idk

naive pendant Sep 19, 2019, 4:40 AM

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so i found on ebay an auction for the gigabyte aorus z270x gaming 7 motherboard for only 81 bucks as of now

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i'm thinking of getting it and then reselling it for like $300

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Box-GIGABYTE-Aorus-Z270X-Gaming-7/254358741515?hash=item3b38f6620b%3Ag%3AzwEAAOSwMXdde9-y&LH_ItemCondition=1000

eBay

New In Box GIGABYTE Aorus Z270X-Gaming 7

Condition is New with all accessories and drivers. No reserve. - GIGABYTE UEFI DualBIOS™. - 2 External Thermistors Headers with 2 Included Thermistors. - Smart Fan 5 features Multiple Temperature Sensors and Hybrid Fan Headers.

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should i do it?

oblique steeple Sep 19, 2019, 3:14 PM

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It's a decent Mobo. That's what I have and use my 7700K with and holds it at 4.8GHz stable. I can't go higher because of temperatures. So it's good enough of a board I guess?

pliant lantern Sep 19, 2019, 10:10 PM

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i have a question and i hope someone can give me an answer. last night i took notice to the voltage in my BIOS and it is running at 13v+ and the number is red. any ideas why my volts are so high? i have an asus rog strix b450-f gaming MOBO

weak hamlet Sep 19, 2019, 10:57 PM

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reset to default settings

mental ether Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Hi, need help

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📎 Screenshot_2019-09-19-09-17-47-474_com.newegg.app.png 📎 Screenshot_2019-09-19-09-17-40-490_com.newegg.app.png

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Which is better of them?

urban ferry Sep 20, 2019, 10:21 PM

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id get the second one personally

dusk oracle Sep 20, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Frist one

shadow seal Sep 20, 2019, 10:24 PM

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first one

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3600 at 16 is way beter

dusk oracle Sep 20, 2019, 10:24 PM

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yep

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I am guessing zack looked at the price and not the spec

urban ferry Sep 20, 2019, 10:25 PM

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i did

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thats why i said personally

dusk oracle Sep 20, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Well personally you would want what is the better in performance

urban ferry Sep 20, 2019, 10:26 PM

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no, personally id save the $200 and get the second one because PERSONALLY i have no use for 3600 cl16

dusk oracle Sep 20, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Well it is not use for you it is use for him

shadow seal Sep 20, 2019, 10:27 PM

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he asked what was better. We answered

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if more accuracy is needed more info is needed

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can only do so much with what was given and asked

dusk oracle Sep 20, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I would think he has a Ryzen 3000 system if asking about memory of that speed

urban ferry Sep 20, 2019, 10:28 PM

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ok

quaint current Sep 21, 2019, 1:51 AM

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you can oc that ram to 3600cl16/17 also with a little higher volts

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and results have shown it’s like a 1% improvement over 3200cl16

urban ferry Sep 21, 2019, 1:54 AM

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clubpenguin_dance

cursive dew Sep 21, 2019, 2:22 AM

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just got my maximus xi extreme EpicEgg

dusk oracle Sep 21, 2019, 2:26 AM

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@quaint current You can but if he doesn't really know how to do so it would be safer to buy memory at a higher speed

mental ether Sep 21, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Thank you everyone, i should be more clear, it's about performing and my CPU is i7 7800x
So is the first option still better?

naive pendant Sep 21, 2019, 12:58 PM

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What board, budget ? I'd go 4x8 3200c14 for $240 USD for the best value for higher end ram.

tulip flint Sep 22, 2019, 3:21 PM

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honestly on an intel system I'd go with the cheaper 3200c15 set

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it is very unlikely that you will see any difference between that and a 3200c14 set for twice as much

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 3:46 PM

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3200c14 is almost certainly high-binned b-die , 3200c15 could be a tossup as far as what IC is under the head spreader, but not far behind.
Depends a lot on whether or not the user wants a kit that can overclock if desired. 4x8 kit for $240 as mentioned can do 4000c14 on Skylake-X/refresh at 1.6V, or similar/more conservative.

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 8:04 PM

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We are building new machine for a friend of mine, so the question is. Can Newegg staff flash the bios for Ryzen 3000 support on GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING?

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Finding spare ryzen cpu is hell of inconvenient for us, due to location and tight budget.

empty summit Sep 22, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I have a question

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So my laptop CPU has been running High as of lately, but the only app I’d be running is chrome. Any help?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 8:06 PM

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try checking resources monitor for cpu usage, identify which process creates a high load.

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https://www.thewindowsclub.com/use-resource-monitor-windows-10

The Windows Club

HemantS@TWC

How to use Resource Monitor in Windows 10

Resource Monitor or Resmon in Windows 10/8/7 lets you monitor CPU Usage, Memory Usage, Disk Activity, Network Activity & more. See how to use it.

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Also there maybe thermal issues if you havent cleaned\serviced your laptop for a long time.

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Best budget cpu and mobo?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@naive pendant depends on a budget and tasks\requirements

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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$550

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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for the combo or entire pc?

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:09 PM

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For the overall build

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:10 PM

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@naive pendant to play games?

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Yes

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Intel core i3 9100f vs Ryzen 3 3200 thoughts ?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@naive pendant consider this build https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=xqR9jdPC%2Bpk%3D

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Could I change the cpu to a ryzen 3 3200? And ssd?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:43 PM

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3200 is 30% slower

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ssd is up to you, look for 2280 nvme

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read reviews

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also consider 2600x 20$ more

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Okay 😁 thank you.. I wanna spend roughly 500-550 I don’t have a huge budget

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All I need is a good build that can run the new cod and fortnite above 100 FPS honestly

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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i know, but be careful at that level every penny may increase or decrease your experience dramatically

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something like, pay 20$ less for cpu and get 30% less performance

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rx580 gives 108fps at avg in fortnite

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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i wouldn't have nvme storage in a $600 budget

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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well ssd is a must kinda

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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just get a hard drive and buy an ssd later

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256gb isnt a lot of storage

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:48 PM

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good for few games

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Yes but I’m not gonna be downloading slot

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Alot*

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:48 PM

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250 gigs ssd at about 50$ is fine

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just choose best available

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there is also rx590 for 194$ it's 10-13% faster over 580

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overall 2600x and RX590 may fit under 600

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:50 PM

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well if you want a ssd i'd go with the 660p https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-512gb/p/N82E16820167460

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:50 PM

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looks good

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:54 PM

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If I order the CPU Mobo and ram off amazon it’s $30 cheaper

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:54 PM

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580 will give you about 90 fps in latest cods on high 1080p

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@naive pendant up to you

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I mean I’m now 100% on the mobo and cpu thanks to you and ram

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@naive pendant if you fit rx590 and 2600X into the budget go for them, processor has better cooler also, which means better boost clocks

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@naive pendant live near a microcenter?

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Nope

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:56 PM

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ahh darn

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I’m trying to sell some of the things I don’t need right now

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:58 PM

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i would get a 2600+$20-30 cooler like the hyper 212 tho, because the stock cooler on the 2600x is still worse by a large amount than even budget coolers

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:59 PM

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i tbh doesnt understand amd, why they push stock coolers so much

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basically just throw aways

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 9:59 PM

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i mean they are a lot better than the intel ones, and the wraith prism and other high end cpu ones are somewhat decent for no overclocking

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 9:59 PM

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like i'm buying 3900x ofc i dont need their awful cooler

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 10:00 PM

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the 3700x has a nice one

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with the low tdp and a somewhat ok cooler

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:00 PM

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yeah maybe

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but on very top and very bottom of the product line its just a waste and environment pollution

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 10:01 PM

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true, but some people probably don't want to spend $80 on a cooler on top of the cpu price

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like on the 9900k you need around a $100 cooler to oc it to 5ghz, which is 1/5 of the price of the cpu alone

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:02 PM

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i would buy 55$ mugen 5 and push 200-250 watts into it

quaint current Sep 22, 2019, 10:03 PM

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i'd buy $30 worth of aluminum and 2 noctuas and slap them on my cpu :v

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:03 PM

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🙂

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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So I’m selling my current pc for $150 then getting $80 for babysitting then if I take back my Xbox to Walmart I should have $490

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Like would I 100 percent have better FPS than I would on console with this build

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:07 PM

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yeah about 100 fps on high

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especially if you go for RX590

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:07 PM

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What about medium/low settings would I have around 130?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:09 PM

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167fps fortnite medium on RX580

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:09 PM

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That’s perfect

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Okay so ig I’m doing it thank you so much

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:09 PM

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86 fps blackops 4 medium on 580 and about 100-105 on RX590

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:09 PM

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If I need help while building it you’ll help me right 🤣

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@naive pendant just dont apply to much force, dont bend cpu legs, and dont scratch backside of the motherboard

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I’ve watched countless videos of pc builds I’m gonna be careful I’m prolly just gonna need help with installing drivers and such

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:12 PM

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updated with better ssd and rx590
https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/MyWishlistDetail?ID=9812916

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:13 PM

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I’m gonna order everything off amazon Seems cheaper

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:14 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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@naive pendant if you are brave enough there is a ton of 8gb rx580 and rx590 on ebay auctions for cheap like 80-140$ cheap

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Ehh I wouldn’t risk it honestly 🤣 I might see if I can find rx 590 off eBay but just bought it now

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Would I need to change my psu

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500 watt should be good for the 90 or 80

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

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yes but there is like 5$ difference you wont get good psu below 45$ i won't risk it atleast

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Should I get 550 or 600?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

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500-550

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your pc will be like 300watt tops, other 200w just so it stays effective and cool

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Okay perfect

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Wanna see everything I’m ordering to make sure it’s good ?

cold gazelle Sep 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

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sure show me

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in pm maybe not sure if its allowed here, i'm new here

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nothing in the rules about that tho

naive pendant Sep 22, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Sent on

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Pm *

near gorge Sep 23, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Looking to buy either 2x8gbs TridentZ 3200mhz RAM kit or 32gb (2x16)(4x8) kit of Trident NEO. Hit me up with offers. Thank you

thorny gate Sep 23, 2019, 2:38 PM

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is your motherboard dual memory?

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if so go with 2 sticks

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i only go 4 sticks with quad channel supported boards

near gorge Sep 23, 2019, 2:39 PM

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its an x570 MSI MPG Gaming Pro Wifi board

thorny gate Sep 23, 2019, 2:43 PM

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its dual channel use 2 stick

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so if u want 32gb use 2x16

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when u use all slots it defaults the memory to 1600mhz which is half the speed but when u dual channel it the 1600 becomes 3200

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so if its a dual channel board u use 2x16 3200mhz

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or whatever speed u want

near gorge Sep 23, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I've never heard this before

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I have 4 sticks in my current build all running at advertised speeds and its an older mobo

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p8Z77-Vpro

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its a Gaming pro Carbon Wifi

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the new board i mean

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even if it defaults to 1600 can't I over clock it to 3200?

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Sorry, rule 9. Unfortunately not everyone trying to b/s/t can do so in a friendly and polite manner as you two have here. Feel free to continue via pm. Thanks

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@thorny gate That's not how dual channel works. 2x8, 2x16, or 4x8 would be great picks, I'd suggest 3200c14. Depending on the memory topology that model may favor 2 vs 4 sticks , I don't remember what is has.

vale adder Sep 23, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Is it worth it to upgrade a ryzen 1600 to intel or a 3000 series ,just confused on if I should since intel has some steep price cuts

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Yes. 3600 is the best deal

cold gazelle Sep 23, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Can Newegg flash a Ryzen 3000 support bios onto X470 motherboard?

near gorge Sep 23, 2019, 6:23 PM

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@naive pendant Thank you for the info. I am still looking for TridentZ 2x8 16gb or NEO RAM 2x16 or 4x8. hit me up with offers via PM thanks!

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 6:27 PM

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@cold gazelle No they can not cause then they would have to lower the cost to an open box price

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Why not just get a X570 instead?

cold gazelle Sep 23, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Because its more expensive for the same performance its about 40$ premium

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 6:29 PM

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It is not really that much more expensive

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There is this one for 150$ https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157884

cold gazelle Sep 23, 2019, 6:35 PM

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@dusk oracle thats one of the worst boards on the market, 3900X will tear that vrm apart

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@dusk oracle Thats just inconvenient to buy used ryzen 1200 and sell it after, because of AMD introducing more expensive soc with doubtful improvements which increase motherboard manufacturing requirements and forces you to pay 50-100$ premium for it.

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Hopefully nobody buying or in possession of a 3900x has one living in that board for more than temp testing. Might takes months, years to fail, but it's just a silly combo. If you got that board + a 3600 - $30 off on combo - that's far more attractive.

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@naive pendant I watched a few video's of that board with a 3900X in it and the max temps on the VRM while using Aida64 was 61c

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Does it make sense to you to buy a bottom of the line x570 board for $160 and throw in a CPU that you maybe paid 500 for but is currently worth at least 600 market price?
That does not make sense to me. I can go into detail, but do I need to?

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Rather,$$$ CPU doesn't always need $$$ exactly board, but in this case, it's just a good choice.

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Well he is also looking for a X470 that isn't that expensive to throw in a 3900X into and also i would personally go for the X570's just because of the additional cooling on the boards

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 7:06 PM

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What kind of addition cooling on x570 vs x470 do you mean? The chipset? lol

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You've helped me figure out something important

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dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 7:35 PM

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@naive pendant here is something that might shock you a little https://i.gyazo.com/7ababa0b0340c2c229eb25ec1295f23c.png

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Seems like good news to me. Makes it even easier to fit Navi into budget builds if it lives up

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 7:38 PM

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But i am curious of the performance like would it be on par with the RX 580

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Ok turns out it is a 4gb card and will only be in OEM systems >_<

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Is it Navi arch? I haven't read about it

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TBH most of the tech news I get is whatever gets posted the most on the discords I frequent

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Well from what i read (and there isn't a lot of detail) is that its a 4GB GDDR5 video card

quaint lantern Sep 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Dpes anyone know where to get a ryzen 9 3900x currently? or are the just a made-up dream?

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 10:37 PM

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You can try your local PC store if it is sold out online

quaint current Sep 23, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@quaint lantern amd's website, microcenter usually has it, newegg/amazon

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 10:47 PM

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@quaint current newegg it is sold out and for amazon i would assume 3rd party sellers that charges more

naive pendant Sep 23, 2019, 10:47 PM

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ebay

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How do you return a return on ebay - asking for a friend

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 10:49 PM

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https://pages.ebay.com/ebay-money-back-guarantee/questions.html

quaint current Sep 23, 2019, 10:49 PM

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@dusk oracle yeah, but you could see if you can get lucky

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 10:49 PM

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i looked it is sold out on newegg

quaint current Sep 23, 2019, 10:50 PM

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it was a lot worse when they first released

dusk oracle Sep 23, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Everything day one gets sold out so quickly and most of the people buying it are YouTubers that does a build one time for testing and never touched again

quaint lantern Sep 23, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Yeah i went to order all the pieces for my new build today and no one has a 3900x in stock for a realistic price. Everyone wants minimum 800 it seems\

naive pendant Sep 24, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Anyone have an x470 Gigabyte Aorus? Have good luck with it?

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I got one for 100 bucks, but noticed a lot of bad reviews

spiral juniper Sep 24, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Which x470 gigabyte aorus

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 9:59 AM

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Can newegg flash Ryzen 3000 support bios on x470 taichi?

copper solar Sep 24, 2019, 10:52 AM

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As far as I know Newegg doesn't personally flash boards to latest bios before shipping them.

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:10 AM

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They do not update the bios for you

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You would have to contact AMD for them to send you a chip

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:10 AM

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yeah most likely

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:11 AM

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They send you a 200GE to update it but then you have to mail it back to them and if you don't they can charge you for it

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:12 AM

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november im gonna buy a 3600x then ill upgrade my motherboard for christmas

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that way i can use my ryzen 7 1700 as a bios upgrade chip

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for christmas ima get a x470 strix

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/3917vs4041

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X vs 7 1700

Based on 134,105 user benchmarks for the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X and the Ryzen 7 1700, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,182 CPUs.

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:14 AM

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worst case scenario ill buy R3 1200 for 30$ and resell it

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:14 AM

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huge upgrade according to user bench

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Why not just get a X570 or wait for the B550 and take advantage of the PCIE 4.0

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:17 AM

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@dusk oracle take advantage of PCIE 4.0 using what exactly?

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i dont run top of the line terabyte nvme ssds in raid sorry

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:18 AM

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🤦

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:19 AM

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gpus are barely creep in to pci-e 3 x8 limits, thats like 2080ti

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and then it is only for gaming, you will be fine with x4 connection for rendering

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@dusk oracle please tell me are you ready to pay 50$ just because of bigger number on the label?

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:22 AM

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I would pay 50$ more for all the additional features on a motherboard

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:22 AM

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there most likely will be less or equal features on such motherboard

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just compare x470 taichi and x570 aorus elite

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it all becomes clear, both are 200$ best vrm\price

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Vrm’s aren’t everything

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:24 AM

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sure not, taichi has better pci-e configuration, debug features, elite has nothing and one bios chip

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:24 AM

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also taichi can only run 3200mhz ram without oc

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and pcie gen 4, better connectivity

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:25 AM

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yep i'm fine with overclocking and stock 3200 low timings

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@quaint current how is it better connectivity?

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:25 AM

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newer stuff like usb 3.2 ports

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And they both have 6+2 vrms :l

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:26 AM

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yes they are with doublers however

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Which would be very close to each other

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:27 AM

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yes they have similar vrms, good enough for upto 16 cores overclocked

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:27 AM

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So not really a difference

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and it is the guaranteed ryzen 3000 support

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:28 AM

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x470 taichi also guaranteed with bios update

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Still have to flash the bios

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:28 AM

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not a big deal

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:28 AM

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have you seen the trouble it takes some times?

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and could brick the mobo

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:29 AM

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If you're willing to spend extra money on a CPU to update the bios why not just buy the more up to date better motherboard

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:29 AM

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If you’re spending $200 on a ryzen 3000 motherboard, it would be kind of stupid not to buy a x570

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and b550 is coming out soon

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:29 AM

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and you have no clue if someone would buy the 1200

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:30 AM

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the only valid reason to use PCI-E 4 is future USB4 extension card at full speed and top of the line NVME storage

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:30 AM

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but the taichi has little to offer over the x570

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:31 AM

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If i also remember it has Gen4 for NVMe

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:31 AM

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yes not much, about 50$ more if you compare with higher priced x570 motherboards with similar vrm

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:31 AM

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but VRM isn't everything

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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vrm is base

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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the $200 x570’s also have 6+2 vrms...

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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yes, do you even listen 🙂

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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And the taichi is $200

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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We're not listening we're reading

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:32 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

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@quaint current and taichi has better pci-e slots configuration that 200$ x570 atx motheraboards with the same vrm especially my target x570 auros elite

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

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and how many people are going to sli?

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

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i'm speaking of myself not people

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:33 AM

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so you’re basing your whole argument over what you need?...

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:34 AM

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exactly

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:34 AM

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the 1 in 10000

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:35 AM

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well it was you who tried to prove me right now that i should buy x570 just because of pci-e 4.0 which i won't use and native ryzen 3000 support

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spiral juniper Sep 24, 2019, 11:39 AM

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To be fair this is an argument for what @cold gazelle should buy, they should be allowed to base their argument around what they need, I would recommend an x570 board if you are going to SLI/crossfire, but if none of them beside the drastically higher priced ones have the pcie slot configuration your looking for then just buos update the x470 tachi cause that is still a really good board

quaint current Sep 24, 2019, 11:39 AM

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I just joined the debate

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i didn’t start it, but I see your point

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:40 AM

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@spiral juniper i'm going for max possible 3900x overclocking on air and crossfire heterogeneous rendering in blender

spiral juniper Sep 24, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Is 200 your max motherboard budget

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:40 AM

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yes pretty much, it's a tight budget overall

spiral juniper Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Okay then x470 taichi

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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im going x470 strix cause i dont need pcie4 and also dont wanna spend 325 for a good board. im sure a 3600x can be overclocked by a x470 strix

spiral juniper Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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But I do have to go, be nice while I'm gone lol

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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@thorny gate it also great motherboard if you can find it cheaper than taichi

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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189

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:41 AM

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meh, something around 165$ would be nice

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:42 AM

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well i could get a refurb but want it brand new

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:42 AM

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@thorny gate add 15$ get taichi aswell

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:42 AM

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He still would need to contact AMD for an update CPU or buy an older one to update but also buying an older CPU you can not be guarantied that someone would buy if you resell

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:42 AM

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nah i have a asrock board im switching to asus strix

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:43 AM

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in worst case i'll just buy used 1200 for 30-40$ and resell it later

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:43 AM

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i have a ryzen 7 1700 so i have a chip to use to update bios

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:43 AM

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@thorny gate fair enough, i love asrock boards had 3 of them

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:43 AM

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But like i said it is not a guaranty that someone would buy it if you resell it

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:44 AM

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o its a good board i have the x370 asrock fatality gaming x

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i just want a better one like the strix

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:44 AM

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@dusk oracle they will, even 50% loss on resell is still better than paying 50-80$ premium for the same vrm and features of x570 board

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:45 AM

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yet you ignored the first part of what i said as well

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:45 AM

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never know i may fork out a extra hundred to get the x570 strix idk yet

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:46 AM

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@thorny gate be careful these marketing names mean nothing, choose motherboard by vrm, io configuration, bios and features, and rgb if you like

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:46 AM

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its got like 14-16 vrms lol

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:47 AM

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i think its less a bit on x470-f

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:47 AM

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the 470 onloy has 10

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

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@thorny gate You know i told him at least 3 times to contact AMD so they would send him a CPU to update the bios and all he would need to do is send it back to them but he still thinks i am talking about buying the X570

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

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i just counted its 16 vrms

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

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@dusk oracle i'm from another country, sending it back will be meh

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@thorny gate dont count chokes, its fake 🙂

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:48 AM

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So what if you're in another country

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:49 AM

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@dusk oracle amd will say to go and f myself

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:49 AM

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yes because all the people in other countries they told them that

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:50 AM

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yeah who knows

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i'm considering worst case scenario

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:50 AM

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you know i am being sarcastic

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You have to buy the motherboard take pictures and send them the information and they will mail you the CPU the only thing you have to do after is mail it back to them and the problem is solved i don't know why you think they would tell you to f yourself

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 11:52 AM

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it has 12 phase for power and 4 for something else

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https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/motherboards/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-review/1/

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Review | bit-tech.net

Can Asus clean up in the £300 X570 motherboard price bracket?

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:53 AM

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@thorny gate strix x470-f 6+4, taichi is 6 + 2 with doublers kinda 12+2 a bit smoother but less power for APU

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strix x470 would be great board for top end APU

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:58 AM

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You mean CPU

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:58 AM

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i mean cpu with integrated gpu

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Now why would anyone buy a X470 for a 2400G/3400G

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 11:59 AM

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i'm speaking of high end apu's including overclocking

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something like 3600G which will be available later i guess

thorny gate Sep 24, 2019, 12:00 PM

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ill be overclocking but itll be a 3600x

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:00 PM

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anyway x470-f and taichi has marginal difference so eh everyone chooses what they want

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 12:01 PM

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There is speculations on processors like that same how there was talk for the 2500 and 3500 which never happened

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Before the 3200G and 3400G came out there was talk it was going to have Navi in it but in the end it just has a higher clocked Vega

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Also lets say they do make a 3600G it would be pretty weak still because for APU's the max Vram for it (no matter how much memory is in your system) will be 2gb which is alright for games like Overwatch as an example which the Vega iGPU would be similar in performance to a RX 560

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:04 PM

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@dusk oracle in theory they can releaze zen 2 with navi apu later

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including something at the level of 3600X + RX580

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 12:05 PM

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That would have to be Zen3

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:05 PM

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maybe not, they have technical possibility for that move atleast

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 12:06 PM

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You do know how much money they would lose cramming that now into a CPU especially since they are also releasing the RX 5300 XT

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making a CPU with Navi for the iGPU they could lose more than what they would gain

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:07 PM

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probably

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3600 + 5300XT \ 5500? APU combo would be interesting tho

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they are basically gonna sell same set of chips

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 12:08 PM

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You do know the 5300 XT is going to be a GDDR5 4gb card right

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So it might have the performance or a little higher of a 4gb RX 560, 570 or 580

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:09 PM

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overall i think amd avoiding powerful apus because they actually have competitive descrete gpus atm

dusk oracle Sep 24, 2019, 12:09 PM

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They never made powerful APU's to begin with cause of the power draw

cold gazelle Sep 24, 2019, 12:10 PM

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alright it was nice to talk with you, need to go

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 2:50 AM

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imagine paying $15 rn on steam for the batman arkham collection when its $0 on the epic store

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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^

dusk oracle Sep 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Free or not there are still people that would refuse to use that

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Still a bunch of people that hates the epic store

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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epic bad, ea/activision good

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:01 AM

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EA bad, epic bad

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epic is pretty disliked by most gamers, but one main redeemable quality are the free weekly games

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thats all for me lmao

dusk oracle Sep 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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activision good?

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that has got to be the best joke i have ever heard

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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no, best joke is activision and ea actually making good games in 2019 without pay to win

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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sees fifa 20

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😂

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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yall really sleeping on marble drop

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literally spent 45 minutes playing that game, felt like 5

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havent felt that like - time warp in so long

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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fifa?

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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never heard of modded skyrim have you?

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:06 AM

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ive never played skyrim

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i only find joy in multiplayer games and games with good stories, and none of my friends have good pcs that they can play games on with me

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i wanna win the lottery so i can build them pcs

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:06 AM

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so sad

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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well, one of them has a nice pc, but they spend all their time drawing pixel art and watching anime, and never talk to me

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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poor guy, knows his pc stuff, but doesnt have his own decent pc to call his h0me

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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skyrim multiplayer is the best and most broken thing ever, its hilarious. pain to run but its funny

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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😢

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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New command and conquer game when

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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i had some online friends... but then they turned weird and i stopped talking to them

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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wow.

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oof.

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Relatable

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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LOL

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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i have decent friends irl, many good friends online

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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i have good friends irl too, but theyre always causing drama

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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oof

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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#general-chat

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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true

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Bad mod

hasty marsh Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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lmao

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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I'm gonna report you

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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theo_shakes

vital field Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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oh dang, i just realized this is cpus-mobos

urban ferry Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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lol

oblique steeple Sep 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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You are a disgrace, Zack

outer siren Sep 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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hey. I was wondering if anybody knew anything about my motherboard? system info says
Baseboard Manufacturer: MSI
Baseboard Product : Z170A PC MATE (MS-7971)
Baseboard Version : 2.0

I'm wanting to upgrade my CPU, I currently have an i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70Ghz and I would like to go up to an i7 or i9 but I don't know what will fit in my mobo?

naive pendant Sep 25, 2019, 4:16 AM

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You could upgrade to a 7700k, but I don't recommend that - even buying one used.
I would instead sell that pc and build new, $600 is about the sweet spot for budget performance.

grizzled holly Sep 26, 2019, 12:05 AM

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What would be better for streaming games like Fortnite and playing those gmaes, a 2600 and 1660ti or 2600x and 1660

quaint current Sep 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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2600+1660ti

grizzled holly Sep 26, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Okay thanks

naive pendant Sep 26, 2019, 5:50 AM

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A 3600 and 1660

rain warren Sep 27, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Hi all, I would like to upgrade my laptop memory, could I get some assistance?

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I currently have 2 - 2GB RAM chips HMA425S6AFR6N-TF. I would like to upgrade to at least 16 GB total. What RAM chip will I need?

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There are 2 RAM slots, so I'll need 2 - 8GB chips

lunar jungle Sep 27, 2019, 2:53 AM

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I would make sure your laptop supports 16GB of ram before looking at what to buy

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Hi all! So I currently have an asus m5a78l-m plus/usb3 motherboard with an fx6300 with a single 8gb 800mhz ddr3 ram stick

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And a rx5602gb

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 12:58 PM

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sell, upgrade to a 3600, b450 gaming plus, 2x8 ballistix sport 3200c16

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 12:58 PM

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If i upgrade the ram and gpu should i be able to game or should i rebuild my pc

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What gpu should i get

quaint current Sep 27, 2019, 12:59 PM

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What budget for the gpu?

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Also do you single pc stream

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Tbh ive been saving since my pc was soo bad and i think i have like 1200 for a full build

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Oh, you can get more than what I copypasta'd - by a litle

quaint current Sep 27, 2019, 1:00 PM

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oh that’s a nice system for 1200

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probably like a 3600/5700xt

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Depends if you want to invest in a nice psu that'll last you 10 years, or save 80 , I'd advocate $250+ monitor unless you're a csgo enthusiast

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Ballistix 3600c16 needs to come down in price, that stuff is too good for non-bie to believe

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 1:02 PM

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Is it true that rtx cards help with the stream load

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I think they have an encoder or something, i could be completely wrong

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Yes - Pascal cards do too - does that mean you do want GPU encoding as an option for streaming?

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 1:04 PM

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If it help, cause tbh im still new to all of this

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I recommend it yes, that way you'll have the option - also cuda is 🙂

ancient stratus Sep 27, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Back to pc part picker 😂

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Thank you very much!

main turret Sep 27, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Just picked up a 1070 for my new build. Currently, it is in my old build (I have my 970 sitting out) because I';m selling my current

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I'm looking to spend less than $250 on a mobo/cpu combo. Any suggestions?

naive pendant Sep 27, 2019, 3:06 PM

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3600 + used msi b450

zenith forge Sep 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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How bad would ram preform if I did 4x16gb, 1x2gb, and 3x1gb dimms?

quaint current Sep 28, 2019, 1:21 AM

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bad

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and they would all have to be the same speed

blissful dragon Sep 28, 2019, 1:52 AM

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whats the max rpm that a stock intel cooler can go up to?

grizzled holly Sep 29, 2019, 3:09 AM

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3600 and a 1660 or a 2600 and a 1660ti for streaming games like fortnite and editing/recording/rendering things?

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2019, 3:26 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-00AA-00001?Description=cpu cooler&cm_re=cpu_cooler-_-13C-00AA-00001-_-Product

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.

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I was gonna buy this one https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-masterair-g100m-mam-g1cn-924pc-r1/p/1B4-0011-00030 but it wouldnt clear my ram

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Sorry, I wanted to seperate the links

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@quaint current

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the 1st one is my new choice btw

rigid thunder Sep 29, 2019, 3:36 AM

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is there any motherboard on newegg which support the amd epyc rome generation without preinstalled cpu?

quaint current Sep 29, 2019, 1:39 PM

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the first one goes up to 2500 rpm, and people have said it wasn't loud (doesnt say the rpm tested tho), and the intel ones also goes up to 2500 rpm @blissful dragon

grave shuttle Sep 29, 2019, 5:44 PM

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for strictly gaming, is there any reason to go i9-9900k over i7-9700k?

blissful dragon Sep 29, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Sort of expensive 8 core cpu

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Vs

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Overkill flagship

naive pendant Sep 29, 2019, 10:05 PM

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@grave shuttle the only diffrence is hyperthreading, and over 8 threads doesn't really effect gaming performance acording to linus on ltt

naive pendant Sep 30, 2019, 3:03 AM

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another intel 14nm shortage
what a joke

naive pendant Sep 30, 2019, 7:12 PM

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ikr @naive pendant

naive pendant Sep 30, 2019, 7:31 PM

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The 9900k has a bit more cache and often a slightly better IMC - whether or not that's worth the premium in cost, is going to fall to preference.
Also, consider the increased requirements for cooling and mobo VRM to really get the most out of the chip.

crude nexus Sep 30, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Hi, I would like to know if the b450i mini itx AORUS pro wifi motherboard from gigabyte can come with the BIOS updated out of the box so that I can use a Ryzen 3000 series CPU.

naive pendant Sep 30, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Unless otherwise specified on the listing or the motherboard manufacturer's website, no.
https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png
https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/

Pick a board with bios flashback - like the b450m gaming plus

crude nexus Sep 30, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Yeah but I need it to be mini itx

sharp blaze Sep 30, 2019, 8:45 PM

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if you need itx then your options are either a x570 or an msi board with flashback

naive pendant Sep 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I'm looking for a quad socket G34 board -prefereably with copper heat sinks - for 4x Opteron 6378's, supermicro is preferred, probably something like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303255173055

Ideas?

shy wyvern Oct 1, 2019, 3:04 AM

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How much of a jump would an 8700k be from an 8600k? (assuming 5ghz on each)

naive pendant Oct 1, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Not worth the trouble unless the price justifies the means.

shy wyvern Oct 1, 2019, 3:07 AM

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everyone keeps going "you're going to need to upgrade because of lack of hyperthreading" but hyperthreading doesn't do that much, right? It's just making a core better utilized since it's two logical processors sharing one core?

naive pendant Oct 1, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Think of hyperthreading as having a core multi-task , partly by letting it do work during downtime , mostly by letting instructions it would execute for one thread complete the same instructions from another - 30% is usually quoted as best case ops/sec gain.

shy wyvern Oct 1, 2019, 3:37 AM

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I see that, that makes sense. I work on retro machines, which are always just a 1 core 1 thread chip. I'm new to these new cpus.

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I don't have to put in a giant cpu board into new computers though, which is great

naive pendant Oct 1, 2019, 3:40 AM

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yea...

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fwiw , I enjoyed using my 9700k most vs 7700k, 9900k , 3700x, can be difficult to cool, price is harder to justify. Hyperthreading/SMT is more reliant on software / OS optimization to help more than hurt in some cases

harsh plank Oct 2, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Does the b450 tomahawk max support ryzen 3000 series right out of the box? Without having to update the bios with a last gen cpu?

quaint current Oct 2, 2019, 12:46 AM

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the max one does

harsh plank Oct 2, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Awesome thank you

ancient stratus Oct 2, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I cant seem to find the tomahawk max anywhere

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I think only amazon UK has them in stock or something

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Im still debating if i should get the tomahawk or the x570 a pro by msi

sharp blaze Oct 2, 2019, 3:07 PM

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The max boards are hard to find. I am not sure if they just dont have much stock or just that slow getting them on the market.

quaint current Oct 2, 2019, 3:57 PM

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they just put the amazon page for them on us

naive pendant Oct 2, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@naive pendant Oops, wrong channel 🙂

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That's a nice setup. If you're comfortable sharing, I'd be interesting in seeing how it's config'd

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i may share images wheen fully configured with the vii in the loop but for now it is in a pretty pathetic state

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but amd keeps delaying the 3950x

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which si getting annoying

naive pendant Oct 2, 2019, 6:33 PM

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lol

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"lol no judgement here - I share pics of my pc in an exposed test bench often"

weak hamlet Oct 2, 2019, 7:45 PM

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you said n a k e d

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lol

naive pendant Oct 2, 2019, 7:48 PM

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You've seen my build - would you cover tha tup?

dusk oracle Oct 2, 2019, 8:48 PM

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yes lol

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Can anyone help? What's the best z390 mobo for overclocking under $350?

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@naive pendant

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aren't the vrm on the hero pretty bad

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Yes, just relative to the equivalent price aorus

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:18 AM

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difference with the code?

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:18 AM

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That's why I state both - the thing is - 99% of people who avoid the hero because "bad vrm, 4 phases bad" won't likely notice

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:19 AM

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why is that

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:19 AM

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At a 200 Amp draw I think the hero dissipates something like 25 watts from the VRM - so just point a fan at it if you end up running some insane chiller loop

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200A is like 1.4V vcore running prime 95 small fft AVX1/2 for 300W package power

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No way someone can do that without a delid, lap, direct die and or chiller etc

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Anyway, just comes down to preference, if you want better VRM , at least on paper - go aorus, the master and ultra are 6 layer pcb, the elite and pro are 4

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both lines are T topology

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:21 AM

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t top overclocks 4 stick of ram better, right?

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or im i think of something else

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Kinda - it makes it a bit hard to clock over 3600 MHz, over 4000 on better boards

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TBH - I have none of these , just z270 Apex's for 7th and 9th gens, and a z390 dark

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:24 AM

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how is the dark

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I hate the gigabyte apex on the x570 master

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The dark is fantastic - but it's not a great fit unless you really like CPU an memory overclocking

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I hear that the XI Apex - and for a slightly more niche memory OC use case - the XI gene are some of the top world record holders

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:26 AM

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the gene, a micro atx?!

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:26 AM

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one last note - for every EVGA user - there's a crowd of guys with the same asus board - when you google around for support - asus has a massive community - smaller market segment boards like the z390 dark - are very small

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yes - but take a look at it

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the XI gene's are optimized for memory OC - 1 dimm per channel, they take a lot of world records

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:27 AM

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does ram speed matter at all for intel performance

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:28 AM

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yes - long story short - buy any 2x8 3200c14 - does not matter which one - you can OC it to whatever. If you want to pay more for a pre-oc kit - get the 4000c17.

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:29 AM

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why 3200 cl14

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wouldnt the binning be better for 3866c18

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Not really . An example of a better bin would be 4000c17 as stated, or say marginallly 3600c15

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:32 AM

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and i've heard that 3200 cant reach 3600 at reasonable timings

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:33 AM

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3200c14 can

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If it coulnd't, I wouldn't say it could

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:35 AM

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i just cant wrap my head around ther fact that a $120 kit can go to a $300 kits perfgormance

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 2:36 AM

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People see big numbers and buy without researching. It's also not one dimensional - A1 PCB can OC well at tight timings 4000MHz, A2 is better for higher clocks, but can't do cl12

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Anyway, I recommend checking out some ddr4 memory overclocking guides like this one - credit - Integral
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md

dusk elk Oct 3, 2019, 2:37 AM

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ok thanks

shy wyvern Oct 3, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Is 3000mhz ram overclocked to 3600mhz with a c16 timing too much? It feels really warm to the touch

naive pendant Oct 3, 2019, 4:17 AM

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What voltage see you running it at? What kit? When possible, state the frequency, case latency, and size,

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E.g. 2x8 3200c14 , 4x16 3000c15 etc

shy wyvern Oct 4, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Do I need to reseal the heat spreader on a delidded cpu or will the mounting pressure be enough?

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I let my 7700k "float" based on tests results I found online like GN's de-lid test.
Use silicone RTV gasket sealant if you do choose to

shy wyvern Oct 4, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I found someone near me offering a delidded 8700k for $170, but the heat spreader is off and all thermal compound cleaned. I can apply conductanaut to it, I just have never really delt with this before

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Unless you can trust the guy or have him prove it's performance at given clock/temp/cooling, that's a gamble. Anyone delidding a chip does so to overclock - anyone's guess as to what that chip has been through haha

shy wyvern Oct 4, 2019, 3:37 AM

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He agreed to use PayPal as the payment, and PayPal does wonders for refunding.

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I had a local deal go through (it was agreed to in writing) where the product didn't work and he wouldn't let me return it so PayPal revoked the recent transaction.

sharp blaze Oct 4, 2019, 4:17 AM

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When you say the heatspreader is off, do you mean it doesn't have one or its just not attached.

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Nevermind I scrolled up

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 4:20 AM

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how many times do i have to explain that the rated amperage and heat output only matters if the compared board reaches 120c or more on mosfets?

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you cant say "it is fine that it is a 4 phase because amp number big"

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because transients and ripple actually matter all the time instead of the basically almost non existent scenario of a mosfet reaching 120c...

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Hey everybody, just a preface, I have asked the overclocking server, they weren’t too keen on hand holding so can somebody help me overclock a 3600? I don’t have a machine that can overclock at the moment so whoever takes this great challenge is gonna have to explain what I need to download for it, among other things

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If anybody has some recommended settings that would be great, thanks

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Btw, ASRock X570 Extreme4, and 2 8GB sticks at 3200Mhz C16, not a B-die

shy wyvern Oct 4, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I've never overclocked an amd chip before, so I'm not too sure.

quaint current Oct 4, 2019, 10:33 AM

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@limber warren zen 2 doesn’t oc well, the chips are already pushed pretty close to their limits out of the box, leaving little oc’ing headroom

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 11:46 AM

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@quaint current that isnt remotely true unless you mean single core where you only may be able to gain 100 to 200mhz from a manual oc all core

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@limber warren use bios to start and that isnt enough info to go off to give you proper help while avoiding telling you to use voltages that may cause degradation because if electron migration.

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 11:51 AM

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I would say it doesn’t OC too well, ya just a few hundred MHz, my friend just asked me to try

dusk oracle Oct 4, 2019, 12:00 PM

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@limber warren if you're using Zen2 or your friend is just wait for Novembers bios update for the improvements first

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there will be a lot of fixes

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Oh ok

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I’m building it too tho, on Sunday, so I may as well do whatever crap-ass overclocking job there is to do in the meantime

dusk oracle Oct 4, 2019, 12:20 PM

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@limber warren Look in #500103010299412491 as well to see what is going down with that as well

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i posted the article about it

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 12:20 PM

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@limber warren if you manage load voltage and know what you are doing then you can get all core up close to 500 to 600mhz

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I don’t really lol, I’ve been into computers but never had one that I can learn about overclocking with. This guy’s really forgiving so I don’t think he’ll mind my cluelessness in this area, but still if anybody has some recommended bios settings they would be much appreciated

dusk oracle Oct 4, 2019, 3:16 PM

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When using Ryzen you just stick with Ryzen master for overclocking since it is simple and easier to use

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Ok

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Thx

dusk oracle Oct 4, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Still look up tutorial video's when doing it because of the voltage

limber warren Oct 4, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Definitely

naive pendant Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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@limber warren what cooler are you using?

grizzled holly Oct 5, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Hey anyone here right now? I just need a quick answer

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3600 and a 1070 or a 2700X and 1070, a 3600 is 186.99 rn

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And a 2700X is 195$

faint river Oct 5, 2019, 6:41 AM

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just looked this up online, 3600 looks a little better

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but take my word with a grain of salt

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Both cpus are overkill for a 1070 and unless you are streaming or something you dont need 8c so I would say get a better GPU and a 2600

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Go 3600

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 3:58 PM

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^^

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i hate the segmentation on motherboards, going to take an hour or two just to find the nice x570 motherboards without wifibut with all the other good stuff, that feeling when you search for EVGA x570 motherboards cuz that's what you want but then you realize...

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Guess you'll have to go z390 🙂

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i know there's an x570 motherboard for what i want

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i just hate that it

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's alphabet soup

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and i'm torn between a 3700x and 3900x, i was looking towards the 10th gen intels but the pcie4 support is really swinging me

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I use the gigabyte x570 gaming X

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with 3700x

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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yes, i was leaning towards gigabyte because of the GN endorsements but i have generally used asus boards

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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no rgb lights on.

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on it*

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i'm hardly brand loyal, i just have some association with them having better vrms and stuff, although the gigabyte boards were specifically singled out for nice vrms

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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it does have both argb/rgb headers though

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Why do you want pcie 4.0 support

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do not want

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i won't be doing much to utilize the bandwidth of the pci4 nvme drives, but i WANT one

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it's an irrationally strong desire too

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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lol

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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do not want the rgb lights i mean

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i know it's dumb but i like having new stuff, early adopter addiction i guess

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if i could cook it up computer parts and inject them, i probably would lol

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and thanks for that suggestion @weak hamlet you probably saved me an hour, motherboard looks good to me

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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it's really nice, I like it alot

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plenty of options, nothing fancy

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:30 PM

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yeah, i presume it uses the same VRMs and other important bits and the difference in price is lack of wifi (who uses wifi anyway¿) and no rgb

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6700k->3900x should be a pretty large jump

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:31 PM

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even the onboard small fan it has, is super quiet when you run it 100%

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:32 PM

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i have a headset on if i am gaming that blocks out sound so the noise is inconsequential

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and i think it's time i finally laid my ancient 212 evo to rest, it's been in three builds/10 years

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495757040359178263/629797919939362846/unknown.png Have to take it into context - but

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noctua here i come

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thank you for that, good info to have

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wow, that's a huge delta between that and the aorus master

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i guess the gaming one is still likely within safe temps but still

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Ya - it's a specific high load test, not to be taken out of context - I can find the rest of the carticle if you want

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Nothing against the gaming x - but it's nice to see an isolated test as such

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sure, now that i look at it, the power deliveries are different between the gaming x and aorus

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:36 PM

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it's also one of the cheapest 570 boards out there

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:36 PM

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i don't mind paying the money if there's an actual difference there

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but i had generally skipped the high end motherboards cuz i didn't overclock and/or want or need wifi

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and (minus wifi) that's changing

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i just hate that it appears that if i want the heftiest power delivery i have to get all the bells and whistles

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If you're dropping 500 on an 3900x, $500+ on a gpu, etc, $200 min for the mobo imo going with the x570 TUF or the elite, ideally 570 master, C8H or a $300 level board

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i have a 2080ti already, with a 6700k that although i know it's really still very suitable, is leaving me feeling a bit outdated

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i know it's adequate, but i want to upgrade

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Ya, my use case of apex/some pubg saw little bottleneck from a 7700k/2080 ti

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that was my thought as well, i don't want to cheap out, but i also don't want to spend money on things that i'm not utilizing

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:41 PM

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you sound like me wubs

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must... have... new... shinies

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😄

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do I need it.. no.

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but..

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must want it.

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:41 PM

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i'm telling you if this was a drug i would have OD'ed at age 12 lol

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:41 PM

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lolol

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eh it's an ever updating hobby

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I love it

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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most my other hobbies have came and gone but fiddling with computers and gaming have not

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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and with a family of gamers in my case, everyone benefits when I upgrade

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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you know

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my roommate has been trying to build a pc for like a year

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looks like he'll have a pc

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 4:42 PM

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excellent 😄

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that's how I have 4 systems now.

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mine, the wifes, and both kids

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 4:44 PM

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📎 Two-Buttons.png

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too late, trigger has been pulled on 3900x

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now i am all in

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i'm probably gonna hold off on the pcie4 drive for right now and get one when they're a little more reasonably priced

weak hamlet Oct 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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awesome

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gonna be one heck of a system lol

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 5:27 PM

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guess they're not that much more than a 970 evo+

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i haven't had an AMD build in...well, about 17 years

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i guess i've been brand loyal to intel by virtue of that, but it was simply because they performed so much better...not so much the case now

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@naive pendant again, vrm temps are not at all a valid point of comparison unless one is overheating and seeing damage...

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i keep explaining this and you keep ignoring it and giving what i would consider bad advice as a result

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My dude you'll see that I even replied as much. He also said to not take it out of context to me.

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It actually gave me the info I needed. I thought the motherboard suggested (the gigabyte gaming x) had super high end VRMs. The huge delta in temperature piqued my curiosity, so I googled and found that the gaming x does not have the same power delivery as I thought it did

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It lead me to the answer I needed

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Still gonna be GPU bound in almost everything I play, however

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Far and away the beefiest rig I've built

small notch Oct 5, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Hey. what bios comes on ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard?

I am wanting to pair it with a 3200g, but need it to be right bios

naive pendant Oct 5, 2019, 6:30 PM

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the r4.0 would lead me to believe that's the fourth revision of that motherboard, so i would presume it has the most current bios

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although i am not sure if the most recent bios is what you need for that cpu, although i'd presume so, let me see if i can confirm

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pinnacle ridge CPUs are supported according to the manual

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i specifically pulled up the manual for the r4.0, and i should say that it's possible that a retailer may have motherboards that have different BIOS revisions sitting around if they have released several waves of the R4.0 with updated BIOS as time goes on

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but that's only been a few months the r4.0 has been out. so it's unlikely that they'd be incompatible as i presume the r4.0 was released with the ryzen 2s and in turn any BIOS revisions since then would naturally support pinnacle ridge

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so in other words you should be fine

grizzled holly Oct 5, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Got it, 3600.

glossy bough Oct 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Aurus Z390 any good?

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

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@glossy bough yort

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

hasty marsh Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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stop pleASE

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@oblique steeple

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:33 PM

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@copper solar

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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OKAY

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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@copper solar

hasty marsh Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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these notifs are aids

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Why do you have notifications on for Newegg

glossy bough Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Guess not

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:34 PM

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short answer: aorus z390 boards are some of the best performing z390 boards @glossy bough

glossy bough Oct 5, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Z390 is not specific to Aorus?

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@glossy bough aorus is fine

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I know a lot of people would point you to Asus though

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:35 PM

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well there are other board partners like asus, gigabyte, etc

glossy bough Oct 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Not really sure what the number or lettering means

copper solar Oct 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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but asus dropped the ball on the z390 boards

oblique steeple Oct 5, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Z390 basically means 9th gen Intel

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Specifically LGA1151