cpus-mobo-and-memory

[urban ferry]

yeah mine went to 100% too

[blissful dragon]

yeah ikr

idk why

[urban ferry]

hold on one second

ugh NOT AGAIN

ok hold on gimme a second

[blissful dragon]

ok

[turbid sluice]

Wow, I didn’t know Minecraft used so much CPU

Can you power the graphics settings?

[urban ferry]

my graphics card isnt being recognized as installed rn

[blissful dragon]

I should know how to answer that but idk what that means

[devout moth]

GG @blissful dragon, you just advanced to level 1!

[blissful dragon]

perhaps it isnt pushed in or powered enough

[turbid sluice]

You can lower settings like the view distance and cloud and water quality

[blissful dragon]

oh no thats not the problem

1 sec

[turbid sluice]

@urban ferry do you have a laptop or desktop?

[urban ferry]

laptop

[blissful dragon]

it doesnt go above 30% usage when I play it normal, its just when I start up minecraft it goes to 100%

[urban ferry]

so for clarification i dont have a 7700

i have a 7700HQ

[blissful dragon]

settings are very high

[turbid sluice]

It turns the GPU off when it isn’t using it to save battery

[devout moth]

GG @turbid sluice, you just advanced to level 1!

[urban ferry]

but its not turning on

check #graphics-cards

[blissful dragon]

something tells me it's partly java's fault

[turbid sluice]

Well, Minecraft doesn’t use the GPU much

[blissful dragon]

after minecraft boots up

[turbid sluice]

So while you are playing it’s fine?

[blissful dragon]

yup

even at the highest settings

[turbid sluice]

Then it isn’t really a problem, some apps just use a lot of the CPU when starting

[urban ferry]

this is when i started minecraft

it goes down after it starts

[blissful dragon]

same for me

I'm just confused on why it goes to 100% in the first place

[urban ferry]

its not harming ur cpu or anything

its only for a couple seconds at 100%

[blissful dragon]

I guess so

I mean a cpu is meant to run at 100% anyways right?

or close to it

[urban ferry]

not like all the time

but its ok it if gets there

its not gonna cause damage

[turbid sluice]

About your GPU, it is recognized there

[blissful dragon]

yeah its totally normal

oh zack

[urban ferry]

i just restarted its fine now

minecraft uses 25% of my gpu

about

[blissful dragon]

@urban ferry @turbid sluice thankyou guys btw for helping me

[urban ferry]

sure

[turbid sluice]

Yeah, no problem

[urban ferry]

now time to see how much it uses when i have shaders enabled

[blissful dragon]

mine surprisingly uses about 55% of my gpu

[urban ferry]

what gpu do u have?

[blissful dragon]

rtx 2060

[urban ferry]

huh

do you have more ram allocated to minecraft or nah

[blissful dragon]

not really

[urban ferry]

ah

[blissful dragon]

I didnt change it

[urban ferry]

you might wanna consider doing that

[blissful dragon]

please tell me how lol

[urban ferry]

ok hold on gimme a second

[thorny gate]

U HAVE 64 BIT JAVA?

oops damn caps

[blissful dragon]

yeah

[thorny gate]

need to be running 64 bit but yea in the launcher theres an option to add more memory

most the time it only allocates 2gb

you can set it for 4-8gb

[blissful dragon]

where in the launcher would it be?

[thorny gate]

i cant remember havet seen minecraft in years lol

ummm options should be a cogwheel

[urban ferry]

lol

thats how you do it

so basically

[thorny gate]

i play modded minecraft so its different for me

[urban ferry]

go to launch options, enable advanced settings, click latest release, turn on JVM args, then switch that number to half your ram

i have 16gb so i changed the 2 to a 8

[blissful dragon]

can I do like 6?

[urban ferry]

yeah

does those pictures help?

[thorny gate]

you can do as much as your ram is

[blissful dragon]

yeah, little hard to see but I got it

[urban ferry]

alright cool

[blissful dragon]

I got 16gb

[urban ferry]

ah

[blissful dragon]

10 should be plenty left over

[thorny gate]

can do 14 safely

[urban ferry]

@blissful dragon it will most likely never get to 6

[thorny gate]

just depends on system really and the tpe of minecraft

[urban ferry]

its not like the 6gb will be reserved for just minecraft

[blissful dragon]

I know that part yeah

[urban ferry]

but by changing that number youre allowing it to go up to that much

[blissful dragon]

thankyou the 3 of you guys for helping me, I really appreciate it

[urban ferry]

sure

[blissful dragon]

I got friends calling me so ill see you guys later

[urban ferry]

cya

[blissful dragon]

bye bye

[urban ferry]

yeah so with shaders my gpu goes up to 75%

[austere tree]

which shaders tho

👀

[urban ferry]

sildurs high i think

[normal steeple]

Hey, anyone here help with build suggestions?

[copper solar]

sure

@cosmic kettle can help

[cosmic kettle]

whats going on?

[copper solar]

[cosmic kettle]

rude theo rude

What's your current build

[normal steeple]

Well I am bringing my pc out of the stone age. Had a GTX 760 and just upgraded to a RTX 2070. Now I need a new motherboard cpu and ram which are all old. Intel i3 530, MSI Iona motherboard, and 16gb ddr3 ram

[cosmic kettle]

how much money you working with?

[normal steeple]

I want to upgrade for gaming and have a budget of $500-$650.. can go $700 but would rather not.. Also want to pick up a SSD or M.2 for OS

[cosmic kettle]

okay.

are you trying to stay intel

cause i dont think your gunna get far on a budget like that when you need a whole new build for gaming

[normal steeple]

I have always been Intel but looks like AMD has some good options out. I am willing to change

[cosmic kettle]

mk

give me a few mins

[normal steeple]

Thanks

[cosmic kettle]

no problem

[cosmic kettle]

😄

[turbid sluice]

@normal steeple Here is a build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XXdQXP

You can reuse your case but your budget is enough to get everything new

That way you can leave your other PC working, sell it or donate it

Or even keep it as an HTPC or backup

[urban ferry]

500gb isnt that much storage

might wanna either get a larger m.2 ssd or a 7200rpm hard drive

[turbid sluice]

They can easily fit a 1TB SSD in the budget

And they can reuse the hard drive on his old PC

[cosmic kettle]

i already gave him a build

:-p

[exotic yarrow]

What y’all think the best build for the game rust and rainbow six siege is?

[cosmic kettle]

i cant imagine rust takes much and i know rainbow doesnt

is that all you really intend on playing with it?

[exotic yarrow]

Rust takes decent equipment

I just wanna build my own rig

That’s the rust specs

[cosmic kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/49sm0o/hardware_specs_for_running_rust_on_highest/

[exotic yarrow]

Lmao

[cosmic kettle]

people run that with some old ass eq max seetings with nothing below 60

its not a real intensive game

[exotic yarrow]

Yeah it’s kinda like Minecraft

Honeslty

[night kite]

But Minecraft is better...

[exotic yarrow]

Lmao that’s beside the point

[cosmic kettle]

my buddy ran divinity 2 max settings on a 750ti

[night kite]

But you agree right?

[exotic yarrow]

Older versions of Minecraft

[cosmic kettle]

so i basiclly always never trust devs on what makes there stuff run great i always believe people

[exotic yarrow]

Yeah I was thinking about buying a build but I would have to put it together

And it was water cooled

That

[night kite]

If I did water cooling I'd think my pc was broke BC I couldn't hear the fans

[winged saddle]

You could listen for the beautiful pumping instead

[zenith forge]

@exotic yarrow Rust is very unoptimized and I'd recommend minimum 16gb of ram over the 8gb recommended

so no matter what rig you have people still get problems like lag spikes and loading stutters

[exotic yarrow]

Okay so would the build I sent a pic of be good? @zenith forge

[zenith forge]

that would run anything so yes

as long as you have a around a gtx 1060 and some i7 4th gen and up you should be fine

with 16gb of ram

[zenith forge]

Woot woot, just bought an i5 3570. No more i3 gang for me

[cosmic kettle]

if its blinking orange that probably means the battery has been killed by faulting charging at the time

[mental tendon]

What is the best bang for your buck when it comes to new mother boards?

[urban ferry]

@mental tendon

do you plan on overclocking?

also what cpu do you have

also what size motherboard are you lookin for

(sorry for all the questions)

[mental tendon]

@urban ferry im really just looking for something faster that will handle streaming while playing better and give me the best graphics Quality..

[urban ferry]

alright

[mental tendon]

right now i have an MSI A88x - G45 Mother board....

[urban ferry]

oof

are you building a new system?

[mental tendon]

yes

[urban ferry]

alright

do you have any other parts picked out yet?

[analog verge]

r5 2600

[mental tendon]

nope was starting with mobo

[urban ferry]

hmmm

i recommend starting with the processor

[analog verge]

r5 2600

pls its so cheap

[copper solar]

[urban ferry]

but if hes streaming...

[analog verge]

6 cores

[urban ferry]

r7 has 8 cores

[analog verge]

fine r7 2700

for 290

[urban ferry]

@mental tendon are you looking for a budget streaming/gaming pc?

[mental tendon]

mid range

if that makes sense

[urban ferry]

alright

[mental tendon]

not too cheap but not like break the bank

[analog verge]

b450 mobo

[urban ferry]

anything you wanna go all out on? like graphics or processor?

[mental tendon]

I would like to be able to play on high graphics settins on wow or ultra while streaming 1080p with 60fps no problem

[urban ferry]

hmmm

ok

[analog verge]

1660 ti

?

[urban ferry]

lemme see what i can do

[daring bear]

I’m interested in this too 😄

[mental tendon]

lol

asking all the right questions

i was originally gonna try and upgrade my mobo but i feel as though it is soo out of date probably not worth it

[urban ferry]

yeah...

[austere tree]

[urban ferry]

how much storage do you need?

[mental tendon]

quite a bit i was thinking 64g ddr4 and then also have a tera or 2 inside

[urban ferry]

o dang

alright

ssd storage?

[austere tree]

[urban ferry]

or do you wanna do a combo ssd and hdd

[mental tendon]

either way im willing to explore both options

[urban ferry]

ok

[copper solar]

dont do hybrid drives

[urban ferry]

yeah

i was gonna do a m.2 ssd and a hard drive

[austere tree]

Are you just gaming and streaming

[urban ferry]

like 512gb ssd and 1.5tb hard drive

[copper solar]

m.2 ssd for os/apps and then hdd for any document/video storage

[mental tendon]

Gaming streaming and video editing

[austere tree]

Oh okay

[low tinsel]

OMG

[austere tree]

Carry on with the 64gb

[mental tendon]

lol

[urban ferry]

you want rgb or anything flashy?

[austere tree]

Zack, 2tb minimum

[urban ferry]

thats gonna drive price up for rgb stuff

[mental tendon]

no no flash just practical

[urban ferry]

ok

perfect

[mental tendon]

im currently running a fully enclosed corsair mid tower

straight black

no flash lol

[urban ferry]

@mental tendon before you buy anything, id wait a month to see the benchmarks of the new Ryzen 3rd gen cpus

they could outperform intel cpus at a cheaper price

and they also support things like pcie 4.0

also do you plan on using the same case as you have right now?

[mental tendon]

if i can

and good idea

i should be able to use the same case i have i believe

[urban ferry]

i mean if the case is from the same year as that hardware, you might wanna get a new one idk

[mental tendon]

naw the case was recently purchased.. the mother board was found in the house we just bought in a box in the attic and i wanted to see if i could build it soo i did lol

[urban ferry]

ah ok

im on pcpartpicker rn, and i put something together and i included a case because i didnt wanna wait for ur response lol

[mental tendon]

lol pay no attention to the cords hahaha

[urban ferry]

oh that looks like a good case

ok so i finished off the build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JxgVMZ

[mental tendon]

yea its pretty awesome

[urban ferry]

take a look

you may wanna consider upgrading the gpu to a 2070 or better, but the 2060 is a great card

[mental tendon]

cool thanks alot... what kind of numbers do you think ill put out with this build?? no issues anywhere?

[urban ferry]

hmmm... id say you can run most games at max settings

just a note: dont try to do ray tracing

the rtx 2060 says it can do ray tracing but it cuts the framerate in half

[mental tendon]

ok cool

[shy wyvern]

It's not too bad in 1080p high for Ray tracing

[urban ferry]

im only recommending the 2060 because its a great card for everything outside of ray tracing

i mean if you dont mind 30fps...

[mental tendon]

lol 30 fps is what im streaming at right now even though im getting 120+ in game

[urban ferry]

lmao

[mental tendon]

ive got quite a bog on my streams

[shy wyvern]

I've gotten 50 fps in high (not ultra) battle field V with raytracing on 1080p

On a 2060

[urban ferry]

huh

ok

so you might be able to do ray tracing if you turn down the other video settings

[shy wyvern]

Yeah, don't try ultra though, you'll have a bad time

[urban ferry]

but if youre streaming i dont even think ray tracing is worth it

[mental tendon]

probably not

[shy wyvern]

You can't tell much on a compressed stream^

[urban ferry]

also that processor is a beast, but if you plan on doing overclocking youre gonna have to get a different cooler

the stock one is great, but as with any cpu if youre overclocking get a better cooler

[mental tendon]

i dont tend to do over clocking never really understood it so figured i should never mess with it

[urban ferry]

good idea

that processor is so great anyways i dont think youd need to overclock it

before you purchase it, get the opinion of a Techie or mod on this server

save that link if u want

[mental tendon]

im currently using AMD A8-6600K APU

3.90 GHz

[urban ferry]

yeah that ryzen 7 2700x will fly in comparison to that

[mental tendon]

very nice

[urban ferry]

also with that ssd, youre gonna have insanely fast boot times

[mental tendon]

that would be awesome i have pretty good boot times right now... but just looking to upgrade my streams and gameply

[urban ferry]

yeah definetly

my only concern with that build is that the case wouldnt have enough fans that come with it, but that problem doesnt matter if youre using ur own case anyways

[mental tendon]

true

ive got that tab bookmarked

Thanks

[urban ferry]

sure

👀 might end up getting that for myself and swapping out some of that money put towards the ram for better gpu or something

nah the 2060 is fine

ill probably get a better mobo

that ones still good as far as i know, but id like to get a flashier one

[ashen tangle]

personally, I'd save the extra money and just get a 2700 over the 2700x, and just overclock the 2700

but that's really only if you're gonna get an aftermarket cooler

[urban ferry]

not a bad idea but eh

[ashen tangle]

the 2700x doesn't come with a stock cooler btw

[urban ferry]

it does

[ashen tangle]

?

[ashen tangle]

oh nvm, it comes with the wraith prism

[urban ferry]

yee

pretty great stock cooler imo

nothing great for overclocking obviously

but looks? heck yea

[ashen tangle]

I wouldn't even touch an overclock with it

[urban ferry]

yeah

[ashen tangle]

I'm currently running a 2700 with a Noctua cooler, overclocked to 4GHz

[urban ferry]

nice

i think noctua is ugly lol

but good for thermals

[ashen tangle]

realy easy to oc, even if you're new to pc building

oh Noctua is hideous

but top of the line for cooling

even compared to AIO

[urban ferry]

im going for a looks and performance pc

so an AIO is the way to go for me

[ashen tangle]

I went for both

the Noctua was my only caveat

[urban ferry]

yeah, i just dont like the look of air coolers that much...

[ashen tangle]

runs just as cool, but quieter than the pump on an AIO

the Dark Rock Pro is decent looking imo

[urban ferry]

yeah

also my issue with air coolers is having to worry abt ram clearance

[ashen tangle]

Noctua has a cut-out on the heatsink to allow for tall RAM

I have G.Skill Trident Z ram in my build

[urban ferry]

i also feel like it obstructs the view of the ram

and i want rgb ram lol

[ashen tangle]

you can also offset the cooling fan if it gets in the way

I have rgb ram

I just don't put the second fan on my cooler

the one fan keeps it cool enough, and it sits between the heatsinks

[urban ferry]

but then youre sacrificing capability

[ashen tangle]

not at all

my cpu never went over 72C during a 4 hour AIDA64 stress test

[urban ferry]

huh

but u gotta admit, aios look better

[ashen tangle]

but I also have 9 rgb fans in my full-tower case lol

AIOs can look better, just too loud

water pumps suck

haha

[urban ferry]

diarrhea fans

[ashen tangle]

but I mean, I also don't really notice my Noctua either with how much is going on in my case lol

the aluminum heatsinks kind of reflect the lights anyways lol

[urban ferry]

that thing is bigger than ur psu 😂

[ashen tangle]

hahaha it's a fair size

keeps it nice and cool

[spark oak]

Didn't see a help tab so any ideas? Just built this and everything has power, everything is connected properly and everything is compatible. MEMOK light is still on so guessing it's doing its thing. Nothing on the monitor and keyboard and mouse aren't lighting up.

ASUS Z390-E Gaming Motherboard
Intel i9-9900K
ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB
32GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Vengeance
NVMe-M.2 970 EVO Plus 1TB

[spark oak]

@austere tree

[split heart]

Is it making any noises, are fans coming on?

@spark oak

[weak hamlet]

@spark oak is your ram 4x8 or 2x16

trying doing one stick on slot closest to cpu

[spark oak]

Everything is coming on and working. Fans run and what not. The RAM is 4x4

Nothing comes on the monitor and mouse and keyboard are RGB and they don't even turn on.

I get the CPU red light for a second and then it goes off. DRAM light comes on next and stays on

[split heart]

Have you tried resetting your CMOS?

[spark oak]

I tried 2 sticks of RAM and same problem

[split heart]

Try a single stick of ram as well.

[spark oak]

So removing the CMOS should I wait for any certain time or just remove and put back in?

[split heart]

20 seconds.

[spark oak]

Let me try both of these and see what happens

[split heart]

👍

It's rare, but you could also have a faulty board.

I did.

[spark oak]

That's what I'm hoping not for haha

[split heart]

I bought an Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero and it ended up being faulty.

[spark oak]

So in order to get the rest of the RAM, should I get everything working first, then turn computer off, install rest of RAM and turn back on?

I've been lucky and never had issues so always have the amount of RAM I want right from the start

[split heart]

Yeah, I'd get the PC set up, then slot the ram in, as long as it's all the same ram, then go for it.

Resetting the CMOS worked then? @spark oak

[spark oak]

I think it did or having 1 stick of RAM in. One of those 2 worked haha. Thanks for the help. I'm getting even closer now.

[split heart]

Sweet, good luck dude!

Lemme know what happens afterwards. c:

[spark oak]

Will do. Thanks again

[finite shuttle]

Hello quick question. I’m planning for an AMD build an looking at some mobo. Out of asus, giga and msi which brand should i go for? I’ve had suggestion of b450 tomahawk and wondering if that is enough or is there something I can spend a little more for more performance?

[hasty marsh]

any extra features you looking for?

[split heart]

That's a hefty mobo, what are you putting on it?

[hasty marsh]

if you arent exactly looking for a specific feature, any brand is fine, it's your personal preference, features and stuff

[split heart]

IT does matter, depending on what processor he's using, how much ram he wants, and a few other things.

ASUS has great BIOS, very user friendly, imo.

[hasty marsh]

thats what i basically meant

i just dont really elaborate much

[split heart]

I getcha.

[hasty marsh]

obv he's using amd, then you said ram etc etc bios etc

eTc

[copper solar]

[split heart]

Do you have any questions Theo? o vo

[finite shuttle]

Since it will be my first time building one user friendly might be nice

Any suggestion on which model?

I’m trying to build for game

[split heart]

Upper tier ASUS mobos like the one you linked is great, and very 'future proof' meaning it can fit much heftier hardware in it.

[finite shuttle]

looking at ryzen 5 for cpu

[split heart]

Gigabyte is good compromise, as long as you don't cheap out. And MSI does some very good 'military efficiency' boards that aren't super pretty, but get the job done.

[finite shuttle]

debating between rx 570-5o0

590*

so 450 and up is a good choic?

choice*

[split heart]

Honestly, if you're gonna go with an RX 570-590...just get the best they have, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590.

And yeah!

[finite shuttle]

well trying to fit budget

saving money and all

lol

saving up for black friday for sales

[split heart]

Oh!

[finite shuttle]

if they have it lol

[split heart]

Good idea!

They will.

If you're saving up for black friday, buy something pasasble, like an RX570 lower tier.

Cause AMDs new cards and CPUs will be releasing on July 7th.

[naive pendant]

i like gigabyte mobos because they have SOOOOO much RGB

[split heart]

GIGABYTE AORUS.

[naive pendant]

^^^^^

aorus da best

[finite shuttle]

well im prob going for r 5 1600

i find ones around 100 here and there

[split heart]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145082?Description=gigabyte aorus b450&cm_re=gigabyte_aorus_b450-_-13-145-082-_-Product

Aorus is really a great series and shows you that even lower-tier manufacturers can make quality parts.

[finite shuttle]

one concern for gigabyte is that where ever i read they say bios is not as good

[split heart]

Have you considered buying a package deal, Rych?

[finite shuttle]

they sems good but dont always got what i want lol

[split heart]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3885151&Description=b450 tomahawk

[finite shuttle]

so do i need 2600 or is 1600 still ok?

2600 better to pay extra?

and out of the three b450 models
msi tomahawk
aurus pro
rog strix
which would you guys recommend?

[hasty marsh]

1600 is ok

[split heart]

I liike Asus, personally.

And 1600 is fine.

But the Tomahawk is a solid board.

[shy wyvern]

Tomahawk is an amazing board

[finite shuttle]

well everyone is saying differently lol

what i get is that they are all good

[split heart]

at that level? Yeah, they're all great and it's down to what you personally like.

[finite shuttle]

so if i go higher tier i will see differences?

[vivid elm]

Yes. 1600 is good performance for its price, and imo 2600 is equally good performance for its price. If you want to do more intensive gaming/streaming or video editing the 2600 will definitely give you better performance, but the 1600 should see you confidently through it all. What it really comes down to is if you think you need that extra performance, and are willing to spend the money to have it. I personally went for the 2600x. A bit more expensive, but I decided it was a better fit for what I wanted to see out of it.

[wary cape]

Does anyone know of any rumors on the 3600 vs the 2700? I currently have a 2600 and am debating if I should upgrade later this year or if I should try to replace my Vega with a 2080

[austere tree]

there haven't been that many rumors for the 3600 tbh

i would just wait till the 7th when independent 3rd party reviews release

[clever magnet]

Theyre saying 3600 is 25% better benchmarks and performance than 2600

Thats from some leaked info

[naive pendant]

i really can't wait to see what the new Ryzen cpu's have to offer as far as overclocking

[clever magnet]

I don’t think they will disappoint

[wary cape]

I hope it hits 4.8 or 5.0 on my b450

[royal pecan]

any thoughts on the expected lifecycle of z390?

[finite shuttle]

i found this diy combo on newegg is it worth to get this and rx 570 8gb as an entry gaming?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3893624&Description=phanteks

[blissful dragon]

couldve made it cooler by adding a gpu lol

diy prepicked combo!

actually she aint a bad combo 🤔

[royal pecan]

you'll want additional fans

it's a pretty solid setup

[blissful dragon]

$778.92 before tax using this combo

1060 6gb with 4 extra case fans

thats actually a very decent setup

(the case fans arent rgb)

[royal pecan]

gpu lengh is a real concern for that case though

[sinful geyser]

For a starter pc to gaming that’s pretty nice

[finite shuttle]

Im looking at rx 570 for the gpu

[errant prairie]

Will a 6core ryzen processor bottleneck a 2080?

I find a lack of Info online

[urban ferry]

nah

i dont think so

[royal pecan]

No

A select few have said if you run 144hz and 1080p, then there will be some slight bottlenecking

[hasty marsh]

no

unless you have a 2080 lamo

[languid flame]

Wtf do I do....wait for the new ryzen 3900x or just go ahead and buy the 9900k

[naive pendant]

Ryzen 3 is just around the corner. Ryzen 2 already has better thermals and comparable performance. Ryzen is also cheaper. Intel really needs to step up their game.

[austere tree]

yeah i would definitely wait for the 3000 series

it's just a few more days

[vale adder]

Is it worth to upgrade a ryzen 5 1600 ,I'm only using about 50-60% under max load,just wondering if gen 2 or gen 3 was worth it

[austere tree]

we'll need to wait for independent benchmarks on the 7th to know for sure

the jump to 2nd gen isn't that huge, but 3rd gen looks like it will be

[thorny gate]

i have a ryzen 7 1700 and im upgrading for sure

if not just for the pcie4

gonna take me 2 months to save up for the motherboard since the strix x570-E will be 329 alone

[vale adder]

I did get a b450 so it should support it ,my main bottleneck I think is my ram its 3000 mhz but it's only 8 gigs and for gaming it isnt great

[thorny gate]

i run a ryzen 7 1700 2x8gb 3200 mhz trident z rgb abnd a gtx 1070

switching to a strix x570-E, ryzen 12 core cpu and RX5900 when it rel;eases

[vale adder]

I'm getting a new GPU on Friday my rx 580 really isnt cutting it XD

[thorny gate]

i thibnk they said the 16gb 5900 will be sept to christmas

[vale adder]

Just hoping my 750 watt psu will be good enough

[thorny gate]

the rx 5700 will release but will still be good for u

yea it should be

i run a evga 750 g3

and i even have custom liquid cooling

[vale adder]

Mines a cosair cx750 which sucks because it's not modular, it took like 2 hours to do cable management

[thorny gate]

will be redoing it in hardline around christmas

ah yea mines fully modular

[vale adder]

Is there a way to liquid cool my video card alone

Or is a triple fan better?

[naive pendant]

you can AIO or custom LC your GPU, yes. as long as it's done properly, it should give better results than the typical 3 fan solution

wrong channel btw

[vale adder]

@naive pendant my bad sorry

[pseudo pivot]

AMD - FX-8350 4 GHz 8-Core Processor? or the AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor

Or any other suggestions in the same price range for gaming

[weak hamlet]

huh?

@vale adder https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-rl-krg12-b1-gpu-mounting-kit/p/N82E16835146062?Description=Kraken G12&cm_re=Kraken_G12-_-35-146-062-_-Product

[austere tree]

@pseudo pivot the FX series is in no way worth a purchase these days

I would go with the Ryzen 5 2600 for the great upgrade path

[weak hamlet]

wait 2weeks and see what prices do.

after 7/7

[austere tree]

yeah

[finite shuttle]

is ryzen 5 1600 priced at 79.99 a good deal?

trying to build a comp for first time

[weak hamlet]

considering I paid 220 dollars when it first came out

and I still use it now, yes.

that is one heck of a deal.

[austere tree]

the 1600 for $80 is a steal

[hasty marsh]

its an excellent price

thats cheaper than the ryzen 3 2200g

[weak hamlet]

yeah, and it's still a powerful cpu.

I don't even need to upgrade for a fews years, maybe longer.

but i want new shinies.

[quaint current]

:l

[finite shuttle]

Well that starts my journal to build my first pc

gonna take it step by step as I save up money

[weak hamlet]

there ya go 😄

[hasty marsh]

nice

[finite shuttle]

think i will wait for the rest until blackfriday

with release of new rx

existing rx will prob drop

hopefully

[hasty marsh]

it will

[finite shuttle]

turns out that most game I will play can be played with even 570 4gb

do mobo and ram also go on discounts during BF?

[austere tree]

sometimes

[lunar jungle]

Looking at getting an inexpensive AM4 socket mobo. I have things narrowed down to 9 on Newegg (https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007625 601292786 4814 8000 4114 4115 600009016 600009017 600008639&Order=PRICE&LeftPriceRange=50 90)
Anyone have any suggestions on which I should get?

[weak hamlet]

o_O

the roles have reversed @lunar jungle

I've always liked MSI.

I've heard good things on the ASUS TUF boards as well.

[naive pendant]

yeah i have a tomahawk B350 personally

on one of my builds

[lunar jungle]

I was leaning towards the the standard ATX MSI or ASRock board. I've heard MSI is good but I know nothing about ASRock though

[weak hamlet]

ASRock is meh

[hasty marsh]

is alright

[weak hamlet]

go with the msi b450-a pro

[lunar jungle]

this one? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144192?Item=N82E16813144192

[weak hamlet]

you're looking for 80 dollars? or just under 100

[lunar jungle]

Obviously the cheaper the better. But under $100 yes. Its just for a 2200G build

[weak hamlet]

ah gotcha

but yeah my first pick would be msi.

only cause I've had multiple boards from them

never let me down.

[lunar jungle]

Sounds good! Thats one of the ones I was leaning towards. Thanks for the help!

[weak hamlet]

Anything else I can help you with today? 😄

[lunar jungle]

If you could order that for me and have it shipped to my house that'd be great 😜

[weak hamlet]

Thank you for shopping at Newegg.

lol

[naive pendant]

that board box suggested looks good

why 2200G though?

[lunar jungle]

Cause I got one for free lol

[weak hamlet]

his current PC is a 920

lol

AMX, that was a rigged show

I felt betrayed.

[lunar jungle]

and I currently have an i7 960 i believe

[weak hamlet]

ah yah, I remember it was 3 digits.

😄

[lunar jungle]

that it is 😦

[weak hamlet]

was the best at that time tho

I remember wishing I had one.

[naive pendant]

there was the extreme edition as well

[lunar jungle]

I looked up benchmarks for the 2200G and the 960. Its pretty much a lateral move 😐

[weak hamlet]

but newer parts.

[lunar jungle]

Tis true

[naive pendant]

yeah the 960 can somewhat hold its own against that, specifically with a good OC

[lunar jungle]

I'll still be using the 960 build. This 2200G build will be a living room PC mainly used for streaming movies and such

[weak hamlet]

you're weird 😛

[lunar jungle]

never claimed to be normal lol

[weak hamlet]

haha

truth.

[naive pendant]

the 2200G would actually make a very good HTPC'er

[lunar jungle]

My thoughts exactly since its not much of an upgrade from my current rig. No sense in building it as a gaming rig. I'll be building a nice custom case for it too. Just to further prove how weird I am @weak hamlet

[weak hamlet]

You have the nice 3d printer though

Can't wait to see what you come up with

[lunar jungle]

yes the 3D printer will most likely be used lol

I can't wait to see what I come up with either 😜

Thanks again for the suggestion Box and JD

[naive pendant]

🙂

[finite shuttle]

so for gaming is it better to get an atx mobo or does mini do the job too?

[graceful flame]

Depends on your demands for things such as the number of pcie slots and other features. Otherwise it shouldn't really make any difference.

[blissful dragon]

who would win

i9-9900k or Ryzen 7 2700X Gold

[austere tree]

a more fair comparison is gonna be the 9900K vs the 3900X

[naive pendant]

^

[split heart]

It's kinda like going who would win the GT 1030 or the Radeon VII.

[urban ferry]

also the 2700x gold has no difference than the 2700x im pretty sur

sure*

[hasty marsh]

nope

just special for the 50th anniversary

[vale adder]

so question for u guys

i have 8 gigs of ddr4 3000mhz ram should i have 16 or is 6 enough

8*

[austere tree]

16 is really the new standard, especially for gaming machines

[crystal gate]

Yes

8gb does not run minecraft

with ray tracing shaders

I have tried

[hasty marsh]

8gigs is enough

16 is recommended

[urban ferry]

@crystal gate what gpu do you have

because ram doesn't boost graphical performance

i mean

you gotta have enough ram

but minecraft is already an unoptimized game so adding ray tracing on top of that is super demanding

[crystal gate]

I have a gtx 1050

i get 25-30 fps

when the window is small

when its fullscreen it gets 5-11

so

yeaaaaaaah

[urban ferry]

yeah its not your ram thats making it not possible to run minecraft with ray tracing shaders

[crystal gate]

its my cpu

is a ryzen 3

1700k

im getting a ryzen 7 2700k

so

that should help a bit

[austere tree]

wait

[crystal gate]

wha

[austere tree]

you're trying to run PTGI on a 1050?

[urban ferry]

whats a ryzen 3 1700k

[crystal gate]

oh

lemme check what it was

[urban ferry]

you're not going to run ray tracing anything on that gpu

[crystal gate]

ik

it suk

bad cpu

[austere tree]

the CPU's not going to help you, my guy

[urban ferry]

no

bad gpu

[crystal gate]

its all i could afford at the time

[urban ferry]

thats fine and all

im just saying

[crystal gate]

i just want a faster pc, so a better cpu with more cores helps

[urban ferry]

a 1050 will not run ray tracing

[austere tree]

you say you have a 1700X right?

[crystal gate]

accualy its a 2200

[austere tree]

ah, gotcha

[crystal gate]

ya

[austere tree]

the 1050's gonna bottleneck the absolute nonsense out of it

[crystal gate]

yup

im saving for a ryzen 7 and a 1080

gtx

[austere tree]

...why

[crystal gate]

do they bottelneck?

[austere tree]

go for a 2070 for the same money

[crystal gate]

Oh, has the price gone down?

last time I saw it it was more expensive

il look

[austere tree]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-2070-rog-strix-rtx2070-8g-gaming/p/N82E16814126270?Description=rtx 2070&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-126-270-_-Product

[crystal gate]

thanks

but the most important question

does it have RBG

[austere tree]

it does not

it's a sleek black card

[crystal gate]

thats fine

my build is black, so it will go with it

[austere tree]

and you're not gonna get better for that price tbh

[crystal gate]

yes, its a good price

thanks for sharing the link

[austere tree]

you bet, man

[hasty marsh]

rbg

:d

how dare you disrespect rgb by misspelling it

:d

[naive pendant]

CCFL > RGB. fite me

actually, with color reactive cables CCFL lights made some setups look futuristic

i'm starting to feel old 😀

[hasty marsh]

lol

[glossy kettle]

will trident z rgb memory fit under the noctua nh-d15 ? i know it's a beefy heatsink

[near kraken]

Are we expecting any sort of price drop on intel processors next month when the new AMD chips are being released?

If not, then ill just look into 4th of July sales for my processor

[gentle lintel]

wonder what type of sales will happen. and when will the new amd chips even be available for preorder?

[austere tree]

there's supposedly going to be a 15% price cut in the top end processors from intel

[dusky sky]

can nyone help if i had 8gb ddr4 ram and i buy another set 8 gb ddr4 ram and put it in would it work?

[austere tree]

yes, it would

[dusky sky]

thx

[slow trout]

Whats a stable overclock on a Ryzen 5 2600 with a GIGABYTE b450 Aorus Elite motherboard with Ballistix 16Gb DDR4 Ram @3200mhz?

Not the overclock but the voltage anyways..

I’m doing 4ghz

[naive pendant]

i'm thinking that you could push it bit more towards 4.1-2. beyond that, you're going to hit ryzen's voltage wall anyway

[rugged pilot]

What intel processor would u compare the Amd ryzen 2700 to?

[naive pendant]

Ok, so I am still looking at updating my simming computer and I am looking at memory. My question is, with DDR4 is if I am getting 16GB and I have a choice between 4 dimms and 2 dimms, which is better, getting 2x 8GB sticks, or 4x 4GB sticks?

[urban ferry]

hm well i actually dont know that answer

[slender fossil]

2 8 gbs

[urban ferry]

i assume filling up all four of the slots would be faster

[slender fossil]

Well depends

If u do 2 8gbs more upgradability

[urban ferry]

having 2 8gb sticks also leaves room for expansion

yep

but tbh 16gb is good for most everything unless you do more advanced tasks

like video editing

[weak hamlet]

depends on the motherboard too

[urban ferry]

yeah

[spiral juniper]

chance of a mini itx b450/x470 motherboard sale

?

[dawn pumice]

A

DXGBJ ZSPEE

JFMLS;P[

[naive pendant]

tf

[cobalt eagle]

when does the new ryzen generation come out?

[weak hamlet]

7/7

[cobalt eagle]

ok

thanks

[young blade]

But real question, how long until they're not instantly sold out?

[weak hamlet]

7/7

😄

[urban ferry]

lol

[weak hamlet]

oh no sold out.

not*

maybe by xmas

[young blade]

Oof

[urban ferry]

nOOOO

[weak hamlet]

I don't really know

lol

[urban ferry]

i wanna build a computer asap

[weak hamlet]

I hope they don't sell out fast.

[young blade]

Aye same

[weak hamlet]

well Zack, you better be ready come 7/6

[urban ferry]

well i mean only after benchmarks and reviews come out

[weak hamlet]

and refresh every 5mins.

why

[young blade]

Hope I can still get one after benchmarks go live

[weak hamlet]

you're going to get in regardless

lets not lie here.

[young blade]

Although, big brain dtrat

[weak hamlet]

😃

[young blade]

Take advantage of 30 day return policy

Buy fast, then leave sealed until benches go live

[urban ferry]

well first i gotta convince my parents to let me build one

[young blade]

I assume that the embargo is within a day or two of launch

Lol, Zach you could do what I did several years ago and get into CAD for school

[weak hamlet]

well you know nexus, and all the other already have them

soon as 7/7 hits, they will be uploaded on YT.

[young blade]

Ah cool

[weak hamlet]

just like when amd released the dates/prices

[urban ferry]

if amd really wanted to build the hype train even more theyd send the processors out early to reviewers

[weak hamlet]

Gamer NExus had it uploaded that day

of all sorts of info

[young blade]

Neato

[weak hamlet]

yeah but the thing is they can't release any info

[young blade]

So that means that I can buy fast and cancel the order of benches are underwhelming

[urban ferry]

if they allowed them to

[weak hamlet]

bench marks going to be great

CPU wise

dunno about NAVI

still not sure what I want to buy

keep my 1080 and go cpu

[urban ferry]

amd high end gpus are a bit underwhelming

[young blade]

What're you running rn?

[weak hamlet]

or keep cpu and go navi

ryzen 5 1600 / 1080fe

[young blade]

What cpu?

[hoary ingot]

Will newegg have the equivalent of prime day? I saw someone type that somewhere in here

[young blade]

Ah, I'd def say go for CPU upgrade

[urban ferry]

they got prime day every day

[young blade]

The 1080's still a heavy hitter

[weak hamlet]

flash.newegg.com

😉

[urban ferry]

https://flash.newegg.com

[weak hamlet]

haha

[hoary ingot]

U rite

[urban ferry]

dangit

[young blade]

Ay lmao

[weak hamlet]

Zack, this is why you still blue.

[urban ferry]

at least mine is a proper link

[weak hamlet]

to slow.

jk ;p

[urban ferry]

im on mobile gimme a break

[hoary ingot]

😂 😂

[urban ferry]

lol

[young blade]

Us normies will never ascend to the rank of speedyboi

[urban ferry]

so thats the only reason huh 😤 because i cant type links fast enough lol

[weak hamlet]

and you're just a boy.

what happens when you go back to school.

no moar Zack.

😭

from 7 to 3.

😛

[urban ferry]

lol

except weekends and breaks

wait i got it

i go on my phone during the school day like the little brat i am

jkjk nah

[gentle lintel]

Is there anyway to preorder any of the new AMD stuff and get it on the 7th?

[weak hamlet]

nope 😦

gotta be on the ready to order on newegg,.

[graceful flame]

will the cpus go out of stock quickly when they are released on the 7th?

If so, how long will it usually take to receive the cpu after ordering it if it becomes backordered?

[weak hamlet]

no clue

[hasty marsh]

yeah

the question lmao

he's like, give me the answers to something no one knows

so specific too oh my

[graceful flame]

i mean, it's a general question; how do these things usually go....

it's like everyone on this discord today is pissy for no reason

@hasty marsh You literally could just be like; oh, that's not something that is very predictable. But you were being very rude there by implying that i asked a stupid question

I digress

[austere tree]

no one here knows, and we get that same question 30 times a day

[graceful flame]

Okay, and i respect that. I understand it gets annoying. But like, how am I supposed to know that? It's frustrating to me that I get bashed for asking an honest question yah know...

[hasty marsh]

you werent bashed

it was genuinely funny, because no one can expect answers for an upcoming release of anything really

[silver frost]

what cpu is recomended to pair with a sapphire rx 460 4gb

my budget build currently has that and a q6600

4gb ddr2

[hasty marsh]

jesus

ddr2 lol

[silver frost]

i only have older games so its fine to do that with but im 16 and got most of the hardware free

i was looking to get a new mobo cpu and ram

and recommendations

[young blade]

what's your budget?

is it just as low as possible?

[blissful harness]

Hey guys, would you recommend buying a Ryzen 2000 series CPU and sticking it in one of the upcoming X570 mobos? I was thinking of buying a moderate CPU and having it last until the Ryzen 4000 series releases (the last CPUs to support AM4 socket) and then just switching it out

[hasty marsh]

no

just waste a few more weeks

they'll be coming out

[blissful harness]

so just get a 3000 series?

[hasty marsh]

yep

it'll be out in a few weeks

just wait

legit a week from today

[blissful harness]

right. thanks for the input!

[hasty marsh]

👍

[naive pendant]

how much does latency matter for memory?

It makes a huge difference in price.

I don't want to buy the cheapest if I should buy better though.

[odd sun]

How necessary is a UPS to be paired with PSU?

[quaint current]

the package delivery?

[austere tree]

i mean, it's nice to have but it's not a necessity

unless you're doing highly sensitive stuff that needs extra time to be saved and you have frequent outages

[weak hamlet]

@quaint current Backup Power Supply..

"Uninterruptible Power Supply"

[quaint current]

ah

i was rlly confused

[weak hamlet]

lol.

[steady patio]

Most (not all) PSUs can handle small changes in current and help protect your system. I got a UPS because my current had large variable changes that resulted in light flickering, etc. sometimes the pc would turn off. UPS with my WiFi and pc plugged in was a perfect solution.

[naive pendant]

@steady patio dang, beat me to it.

I had to use a UPS in order to run a PC on a generator because the cheap generators produce "unclean" power

[steady patio]

I also like being able to play during storms.. so another win there (unless you have a generator) 😆

[lime meteor]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X vs Intel Core i7-8700K
Userbenchmark Effective CPU Speed: 114% vs 107%
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X - 13th / 1160
Intel Core i7-8700K - 22nd / 1160

[quaint current]

if u look at the lists of all of them, it skips 13th place

[lime meteor]

might have been removed.

[quaint current]

it still shows the thing tho, you just have to google 3600x and hit the link

its kinda weird

[naive pendant]

it doesn't skip it anymore

[quaint current]

hmmm

nah it skips still

[sage spire]

Oof give me the 9900X

Or the 9700K

[naive pendant]

oh, I was looking somewhere else

hmmmm

[quaint current]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X/4030vs4041 hmmm

[lime meteor]

noice

AMD is looking good

[naive pendant]

Will the X570 crosshair VIII impact be available for purchase on july 7th?

[vagrant garden]

Hi people. I am building a gaming rig for my 7 year old nephew and i am thinking of purchasing the MSI Arsenal B450 Tomahawk but newegg has two listings for it, i would like to know if there is a difference between the 2 since one is listed for $120 the other is listed for $160. item numbers N82E16813144189 and 9SIAG7R91S4432. Can anyone give some insight?

[hasty marsh]

7 year old nephew???

[vagrant garden]

yea his dad got him gaming at a young age lol

[hasty marsh]

what does he play

[vagrant garden]

minecraft, fortnight and he wants to check out apex legends and rust

[hasty marsh]

ah, well, the tomahawk shouldnt be more than 120 dollars

[lime meteor]

fortnight? you would have lost my aid if you had not seid minecraft.

[hasty marsh]

i think the cheapest one isnt much different than the others

the kid's 7 @lime meteor

[lime meteor]

but fortnight.

[hasty marsh]

he's 7

but yeah?

[lime meteor]

also, the motherboard does not matter that much,

[vagrant garden]

don't ask me i don't play fortnight lol

[lime meteor]

as long as it supports you cpu, and has the pcie lanes that you want,

[hasty marsh]

@vagrant garden get the cheapest tomahawk, as they shouldnt go above 120

[lime meteor]

you would be just as good to buy a cheaper one.

[hasty marsh]

amazon and newegg's prices for it are similar

[lime meteor]

what cpu?

and gpu?

[hasty marsh]

though if someone's gonna play fortnite and minecraft, i doubt you should spend too much on a pc

[weak hamlet]

You should check the Compare button 😃

then it puts what you checked side by side.

[hasty marsh]

yeah

[lime meteor]

@vagrant garden, do you have a pc design in mind?

[vagrant garden]

oh cool thanks

well i am building two pc's one for me and one for him for his bday

[weak hamlet]

sounds like a fun day 😄

[lime meteor]

what are the parts your looking at. and yeah, that does sound cool.

[vagrant garden]

cpu - ryzen 5 2400G gpu gtx 1660

[lime meteor]

ram?

[hasty marsh]

decent build

which specs are yours

[vagrant garden]

16 Gb ripjaw V for him and 32 Gb ripjaw V for me

[hasty marsh]

noice

what's the color scheme for both your builds?

[lime meteor]

yeah, bit excessive for minecraft, but still a good setup.

[vagrant garden]

i figured he doesn't need a TI since he is 7 but i am looking into the 1660 ti for myself

[hasty marsh]

yeah

[vagrant garden]

oh he will be most likely playing more than that when he gets his rig

[lime meteor]

do you have a price range?

[hasty marsh]

unless you only have the budget for a1660, get a Ti for it

[vagrant garden]

i was thinking around $700 for him and around $1500 for mine

[hasty marsh]

ah

[shy wyvern]

Just get a 2080ti

Duh

[hasty marsh]

my build was 750 lol

[weak hamlet]

😐

[hasty marsh]

lol Tweide

[shy wyvern]

Jk, 1660ti is an amazing card

[hasty marsh]

wait.

[shy wyvern]

Or get a used 1070-1070ti

[hasty marsh]

you have a 1500 budget for your own pc @vagrant garden

bruh you can get like an rtx

maybe if you wait a bit longer, the rtx supers

[weak hamlet]

7/7

[vagrant garden]

yea i am thinking about the rtx

[hasty marsh]

you need to

[shy wyvern]

You can get a 1070 for $220 used

[timber jungle]

the RTX supers look good

[hasty marsh]

when the time comes, compare the benchmarks of the rtx supers compared to amd's 5000 series gpus when they come out, then decide

[timber jungle]

I sold my 1070 fo 200

[hasty marsh]

dang.

[shy wyvern]

1070 performs about the same as a 1660 ti

For up to $50 cheaper

[timber jungle]

only upgraded to the 2080ti for the raytrace... with the new games coming out.

[hasty marsh]

1660 ti is a bit newer with the newer architecture

[lime meteor]

@vagrant garden, I highly recommend waiting a little bit longer, for the ryzen cpus, unless you don't have time.

[hasty marsh]

1070 is a bit more expensive

i told him already @lime meteor

he'll prob wait

[timber jungle]

the new Supers will add some new light to the market.. and give new marks to judge against for $$

[vagrant garden]

lol i can wait on my rig but i am on a time crunch for his

[hasty marsh]

you can get his

but for YOUR budget, you have to wait a week

it'll be worth it

[vagrant garden]

wait do the supers come out in a week?

[timber jungle]

they said July...

[hoary ingot]

2060 and 2070

[weak hamlet]

7/9 I thought

[hoary ingot]

ye

[timber jungle]

but good luck getting one right away

[weak hamlet]

few days after AMD launch.

[timber jungle]

the some thing will happen like the 2080TI and jack the $$ up.. all the amazon sellers

supply vs demand... a few big companys will get them at 700$ and sell them for 850$

[vagrant garden]

anyone know neweggs discord so i can add it to my discord?

[weak hamlet]

heh?

this is it homie.

😄

[lime meteor]

is this not neweggs sever?

[weak hamlet]

The Official.

[fading badge]

I feel Lied to

[vagrant garden]

i meant for my discord app not the webpage

lol

[fading badge]

why wont my gpu overclock to 3545mhz like the ad

[weak hamlet]

oh you are on the web browser?

[vagrant garden]

yea

[weak hamlet]

https://discord.gg/hqghevt

[hasty marsh]

ok.

let's join the server that we're all in

lol

[pliant lantern]

cool got it

[weak hamlet]

ayee

[lime meteor]

don't know if this is any use: made a list and stuff: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ykwptg

[hasty marsh]

3rd gen ryzen better than i7

so ppl just gotta wait

[timber jungle]

The new AMD looks sweet... just run it in a fridge and dipped in liquid Nitrogen... should stay cool Enough

[lime meteor]

yep, so you should wait.