i currently have several tb hdds from 1 tb up to 8 tb that i install my games on my current pc, but some of them are making noise and the loading time of the game is starting to be longer.
#cpus-mobo-and-memory
vocal shore
vague apex
HDDs aren't m2. They're sata.
vocal shore
thank's for the info cuz i want to do this build right.
ya i know that hdd's aren't m.2 , I'm using tb hdd's in my current pc and wanted to use m.2 for games as i thought they are quicker than hdd's but m.2 does not have large capacity so i'll need to get an good hdd that has fast read and write.
as i have many game that i keep installed that are way above 2tb
this is helpfull thank you
raw sinew
thats not future proofing
future proofing means you have something to upgrade to in the future
the ultra series socket is only going to support the ultra series
there is no upgrade path
you need a new motherboard to upgrade
its related
you said 'future proofing'
its not future proof
its really good for today yes
but eventually that cpu will get old
it doesnt matter
you said future proof
it is not future proof
maybe like... critically think
vague apex
Future proof is a pretty meaningless term. You could say it means upgrade path, you could say it's room for adding more storage, you could say it's more ram/vram/cores/other spec than you need now so it'll age more gracefully instead of becoming obsolete sooner.
vocal shore
even if I'm not able to get the latest in tech right now it would be nice to know that i'll be getting a mb that can be upgraded.
whats the next best thing, lets say below this
meager elbow
to be fair, if you are also someone like me that only wants to upgrade like once every 6 years or something like that, a new socket would have been out by then for both amd and intel
idk how often you want to upgrade
vocal shore
my current system is from 2016
meager elbow
but if you decide to stick on the same cpu for more than 5 years, there would typically only be one cpu worth upgrading to, or it may be better to just switch to the next platform or something idk
9 years ish then, yeah not even am4 has lasted 9 years
iirc am6 is going to come out in like 2027 or something like that? so even if you go on am5 now, you'll not really have much of an upgrade path on amd's side of things
2028 would probably be the release of the first cpus on am6 since zen 6 is going to be am5 still
🧐
vocal shore
i am currently running a Asus maximus viii ranger with intel i7 6700, 32gb ddr4 , Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060
meager elbow
9 years ish then, yeah not even am4 has lasted 9 years
-# actually, you know what, technically it has? since amd has still been silently releasing some cpus for am4 but technically speaking it's supposed to be eol if not for ddr5 prices
vague apex
Depends how you want to count it but the 5950x or the 5800x3d were the last real cpus that came out for am4. Everything else is refreshed or cut down. Am5 has 1 more generation for sure and maybe another one after that before ddr6 and a platform change.
vocal shore
i have even an older pc it is an msi mb can't remember what type, it has a amd phantom ii x64 four core, ddr2 16gb. it a dinosaur compared to now a days.
and it still works good but slow load time compared to what I'm currently running.
vocal shore
if i go with AMD what do you think about this cpu?
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, core8, core clock 4.7GHz, core boost clock 5.2 GHz, Zen 5. if not that one, then which one would you recommend? and motherboard for AMD.
sudden creek
as i have many game that i keep installed that are way above 2tb
Grab a 4TB or 8TB NVMe drive. Can optionally save by going with a high capacity 2.5" SSD drive. Most games nowadays will be held back by the VERY slow read/write of HDDs. Even Minecraft is bottlenecked by a HDD as far back as version 1.8.9 they are on 1.21.11 now.
Use an M2 Add-In-Card to avoid this. I doubt they are using multiple drives at full speed so the shared bandwidth even on a 4.0x4 slot will be sufficient. @vocal shore
For stability and life span I wouldn't go with any LGA1700 socket CPU.
If you upgrade now expect that when you want to change the CPU assuming +3 years from now that you will need. New board, CPU, and likely ram. The rest will remain compatible.
As Quok mentioned a lot of motherboards have what's called Lane Sharing which is when multiple lanes are being used, some are shared between the connected devices lowering the maximum available bandwidth/speed for the connected parts. On high end boards this can usually be avoided but those cost hundreds of dollars.
If you do go with AMD, the motherboard I use does not have Lane Sharing and is fairly inexpensive for what it is at about $200 USD. Gigabyte B850M Force V2 WiFi. It supports 3 NVMe drives, 6x SATA, PCIe 5.0x16 and PCIe 4.0x4 lanes for the X16 sockets, has WiFi, fast memory training, and supports AM5 CPUs which have a better lifespan then LGA1700. If you need additional storage you can either Bifuricate the 5.0x16 slot or plug a AIC into the 4.0xslot.
vague apex
Depends where your priorities are. The force isn't really a connectivity focused board. It's a relatively cheap memory oc focused board with a very sparse rear i/o and a fairly normal ssd layout for a single chipset am5 board, even if they are wired a bit weird.
With am5 lane sharing is actually more common on the higher end boards, especially with the usb4 requirement they added to x870 and x870e.
sudden creek
Depends where your priorities are. The force isn't really a connectivity focused...
Fair though the Force remains a good all rounder. I got it for OC and was pleasantly surprised to see that it supports Bifurification and does not have lane sharing.
long geyser
9 years ish then, yeah not even am4 has lasted 9 years
Sept 2016 was first am4 CPU, Bristol ridge stuff. Jun 2025 are current last am4 CPUs. Can round that to 9 years tbh
meager elbow
-# actually, you know what, technically it has? since amd has still been silentl...
Yeah I kinda amended that statement afterwards
long geyser
Yeah I kinda amended that statement afterwards
Fun
sudden creek
Sept 2016 was first am4 CPU, Bristol ridge stuff. Jun 2025 are current last am4 ...
Though the new CPUs are just cut down samples that did not meet QC.
CPUs don't just one day work and die the next without cause.
long geyser
Though the new CPUs are just cut down samples that did not meet QC.
I mean, if I want to be annoying, can say that for most SKUs lol. I mean prezen am4 was just buildozer refresh too, idk if there was any actual perf increase.
sleek leaf
little confused
replaced my ryzen 5 1600 for a ryzen 7 5800xt
and i updated the bios
but the system keeps crashing
im certain its the cpu, checked everything else
but its spitting 0 codes
idk what it could be
steel galleon
did u get a new mobo too?
sleek leaf
nah
the way i ended up getting it to work was weird
i ended up removing all my ram except for 1 old stick
pc booted up perfectly for once
and then i threw all the ram back onto the board
and then it just?
worked?
idk
sudden creek
and then i threw all the ram back onto the board
Sounds like the ram wasn't making good contact with the pins in the motherboard Dimm slots.
I usually dust out my Dimm slots and wipe down the ram contacts with alcohol before installing.
meager elbow
That sound like overkill
You should be fine just from reseating as the contacts would get scraped anyways
Unless it's visibly dirty or corroded, there's not really any reason to clean it with alcohol
sleek leaf
the thing is, for a little bit i thought the cpu was the issue, so i swapped the old cpu back in. PC ran perfectly fine. So ik for a fact the ram was seated properly and functioning
its so weird man
surreal belfry
which to pick and why?
shut thicket
Both look extremely similar so the cheapest one
vague apex
x870e for less lane sharing concerns? You'd think so because you get an extra 4 pcie lanes into the chipset but nope, just different ones and the b850 tomahawk max only has any because it has a 4tb m.2 port which isn't very common on b850s. X870 and x870e have usb4 ports. If you don't care about those you're unlikely to notice any of the other differences besides the price.
plucky dew
Is it worth switching from amd to intel? I have 5700x and a 3070 ti and im looking at going to a 14700k. Im on 1080p just looking to push more frames. Or should i just stay on am4 and buy a 5800x3d?
Its around $416 for a z690 mobo and a 14700kf combined for me, and around $460 for a 5800x3d
wind karma
I'm not sure how much better for gaming a 14700k on ddr4 will be compared to a 5700x
Can you find a 5700x3d for cheaper? $460 for 5800x3d is kinda absurd
Wow, 5700x3ds are going for $350+ on ebay. Insane
plucky dew
Yea, the prices now are genuinely insane
I didnt realize how bad the performance drop the i7 had from ddr4 vs ddr5, which makes me lean towards the x3d chips but shit these have gotten more expensive
meager elbow
I should've bought the 5700x3d when the price was still going down
I thought if I waited longer it would keep going down.... Then it just started going back up
vague apex
AMD stopped making them and with no new ones available for $200 the prices of used ones shot up.
$400+ for a pretty small upgrade seems like a rather wasteful move to me. There are some games where it can make a pretty big difference but a lot of those the 5700x will already be doing really well.
meager elbow
for me it would be a pretty decent upgrade since i am on a 3700x, but it definitely isn't really worth considering going from a 5700x to 5800x3d (which iirc was basically just a better binned 5700x3d? i may be remembering wrong though)
if i bought it at its lowest price it would have been worth it kinda but now? nah
im just waiting
either for ram prices to go down to go to am5, or to just go to whatever ddr6 comes out
vague apex
Yeah, 5800x3d was just the same cpu as 5700x3d but with higher boost clocks. It was about 10% higher though.
wind karma
^also keep in mind the 5700x3d is very locked down so you can't OC to get back that performance difference
scenic solar
I've seen plenty of am5 motherboards selling as broken at a local market, but with no evident physical damage. what's likely to have killed these boards?
i picked up the only one with bent pins and another that looks fine, should they be safe to test or there's a chance they'll damage other parts? ill make sure no pins are bent and no smds are broken
lyric barn
@obtuse moss hi I don't know if u remember me, I was the one need help with a new memory and storage. I need a recommendation on a new gpu my budget is around 1k
sudden creek
Hmm what are your thoughts <@&525119001324683264> regarding mATX vs ATX boards nowadays as it seems a lot of the newer mATX boards for AM5 and LGA1851 have the same features as ATX minus typically an extra x16 slot in x4 layout such as:
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VRMs are usually good enough to handle 250-300w CPUs on the newer AM5 mATX boards with some airflow over them not sure about LGA1851s.
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2-3 NVMe slots
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PCIe 5.0x16 with Bifurification
Wondering because mATX at least with the higher end models seems to now do pretty much everything a good ATX board does while taking less space and I am debating if ditching ATX is worth it.
Take my B850M Force V2 board for example:
$130 so about the same price as a decent ATX board and has:
- 3x M.2 slots
- 5.0x16 slot with Bifurification
- 4.0x4 slot
- VRMs can handle 280w
- A bit lacking on IO but nothing a hub can't fix.
stiff kraken
meager elbow
If a hub is required on matx, you probably need one on an atx as well
I have like 16 things plugged into usb
There isn't a single ATX board with that many
At least not that I know of
vague apex
There are some livemixers that are in the teens.
meager elbow
I got curious and looked around and MSI x870e godlike has 15 rear io usb ports
vague apex
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YjqNnQ/asrock-x870-livemixer-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-x870-livemixer-wifi 16 on the x870.
vague apex
My aours z690 ultra has 13.
meager elbow
I just sorted by most expensive to try to find more usb ports lmao
Why is there a mobo that costs 1.7k
Just the mobo
vague apex
Because some people will buy it. Mine was $200 and that's about where I'd draw the line. If you need some extra feature like dual lan, 5.0 x8 x2 support or really care about enthusiast level oc or something then maybe you'd spend more.
shut thicket
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZjP8TW/gigabyte-z890-aorus-xtreme-ai-top-eatx-l...
These products probably exist to subsidize the lower priced products
meager elbow
250 cad is where i draw the line which is also around 200usd
vague apex
I typically recommend something in the tuf plus, aorus elite, tomahawk sort of range for a higher end build.
long geyser
I just sorted by most expensive to try to find more usb ports lmao
Use am5 spreadsheet
Should be one, don't have the link rn tho
long geyser
Why is there a mobo that costs 1.7k
Gaming
meager elbow
AI gaming
vague apex
Use am5 spreadsheet
Doesn't seem to let you sort by it. You can on geizhals though.
sudden creek
I got curious and looked around and MSI x870e godlike has 15 rear io usb ports
damn that's a lot.
sudden creek
Why is there a mobo that costs 1.7k
the EXTREME boards have always been overkill and overpriced lmao.
@stiff kraken @latent river @vague apex so is the consensus that a decent mATX board can do pretty much everything a ATX board can on these newer platforms?
What do you guys think of having all the IO on the top of the case rather than some up top and the mobo and gpu io in the back?
vague apex
They can be plenty good enough for most people and I think people should buy a motherboard that fits their use case. Matx models do tend to have a cut down vrm and just can't fit some higher end features. It's pretty to hard to find one with more than 3 m.2 slots or any at all with with dual x8 support for multi gpu.
Also pretty unlikely to see dual lan on a consumer chipset matx and it can be inconvenient to find one with a x4 in the right spot to fit an add in card.
sudden creek
Also pretty unlikely to see dual lan on a consumer chipset matx and it can be in...
Hmm fair though I think this can be solved with a splitter to take advantage of Bifurification on the primary x16 slot.
My one main gripe is that a lot of OC boards are ATX which makes it a bit of a pita for me.
compact zenith
I lost my special new egg tag and got WIND in its place after coming out of anesthesia. How do I get that back?
meager elbow
what
compact zenith
Never mind, my son fixed it lol. My god, I feel like my dad must have when he had me program his vcr all the time. My son was reading over my shoulder, took my phone, hands it back and Im like "Where did he go George, which way did he go?" Quote from bugs bunny.
Its just weird. I can put together a top of the line gaming server, yet be thrown into stone age when it comes to Discord.
vague apex
If you asked me how to interact with software on a phone I'd be 100% lost too.
compact zenith
If you asked me how to interact with software on a phone I'd be 100% lost too.
Back in 2021 got perma banned which got lifted because I edited Zenonia II on my old Motorola android slider phone. An update wiped my game so made a change to one hit kills as the game was mine and paid $12.99 for it and didnt want to grind weeks again. All ok, except the programmer sold the rights to another vendor who put a store in all the games and changed it to a free to play. In 2021 was going through my phones and charging them and the game connected and new owner who I own other games from saw the edit and did the perma ban. Sent them the invoice and Google sent a message to that I owned the title and they lifted the ban and I blocked further updates to prevent that ever happening again.
meager elbow
If you asked me how to do something on Linux, I'd probably be able to figure it out within half an hour
If you asked me how to do something on macos, I would have to spend like 2 hours just figuring out where the hell something is
compact zenith
If you asked me how to do something on Linux, I'd probably be able to figure it ...
You ever try the Steam Deck?
meager elbow
I have the 1tb OLED, it's great
But yeah I find it ironic that I'm the one feeling overwhelmed when I need to do something on macos beyond the most typical user ability while for Linux it's not much of a headache
compact zenith
I got the 256gb version and added an attachment to add multiple sk hynix platinum p41 2tb, which run much faster than what came with mine and I stupidly forgot the Linux password so cant add additional, and dont want to reset and lose everything.
meager elbow
I got the 256gb version and added an attachment to add multiple sk hynix platinu...
You're able to go to desktop mode right? Iirc the default on the steamdeck is passwordless Sudo, so you could do sudo passwd to change your password
You might be able to just do passwd, I forget if you need to put in your old password though
If neither works then it looks like there's a different method
Reddit
lyric barn
I just got this the other day I installed it into my pc but it's not appearing on my disk management
hollow thorn
What motherboard do you have and which slot did you put it in
hollow thorn
can't exactly tell what mobo it is from that image, try to physically look for the designation around where the first m.2 slot is, or use cpuz and look at the mainboard tab
lyric barn
can't exactly tell what mobo it is from that image, try to physically look for t...
I installed it there
lyric barn
The top slot is not functional with a 10th gen CPU
So it won't work?
Sorry I don't know wbout pc
hollow thorn
Use a different slot, the second or the third m.2 slot
lyric barn
Where is it?
hollow thorn
lyric barn
Put it where the 2 red circle is?
hollow thorn
Both the second and third slots are usable, you can also refer to it in the manual found at
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z490-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x/support
lyric barn
Both the second and third slots are usable, you can also refer to it in the manu...
Is the second and 3th slot where u draw the red circle?
hollow thorn
Yes
hollow thorn
You can see it labeled as M2A_SB and M2M_SB on the layout diagram
Which should also be in small text next to the slots on the motherboard too
lyric barn
You can see it labeled as M2A_SB and M2M_SB on the layout diagram
I guess it's under there I need to open it
lyric barn
You can see it labeled as M2A_SB and M2M_SB on the layout diagram
Man I would never thought there is something down there
@hollow thorn tyvm
hollow thorn
You're welcome
lyric barn
You're welcome
Are u still here?
obtuse moss
Are u still here?
what do u need
lyric barn
lyric barn
what do u need
Do it matter what I pick?
hollow thorn
Do it matter what I pick?
You should use GPT for storage drives, MBR is sometimes useful for boot drives that may be installed on much older hardware, but has a cap on the max capacity it supports
I don't remember if it limits you to 2tb or 4tb, you can still do it if you're planning on putting windows on that drive, but otherwise, GPT is more useful in general
lyric barn
I don't remember if it limits you to 2tb or 4tb, you can still do it if you're p...
Thank again!
I got it to work great day today!
hollow thorn
You're welcome, have fun!
plucky dew
Is it worth switching from amd to intel? I have 5700x and a 3070 ti and im looki...
Did the switch for less than 400 dollars and im loving it
i went with the 14600kf but i need to return my mobo bc i didnt know b760s sucked with achieving full potential of the k series
5800x3d wouldve set me back ~500 bucks
ripe tartan
Did the switch for less than 400 dollars and im loving it
Send me the old cpu
vague apex
You're not going to find a Z790 ddr4 model for anything resembling a reasonable price. I'd be prepared to live without the overclocking.
ripe tartan
That’s what happened to my old 5700g
I was about ready to sell it
And I bent the RAM pins
plucky dew
Managed to snag an asus prime z790 d4 for ~140 usd
we'll see how it performs when it arrives
long geyser
Fun little site I just found
https://mobomaps.com
Easier to compare mobos without constant manual checks
hollow thorn
oh that is pretty nice
sudden creek
That’s what happened to my old 5700g
My 5700G was sent to me at shipping cost. The shop was clearing inventory and told me it had bent pins though with some luck and patience I was able to fix all the bent pins. Recently sold it for what the shipping costed me.
plucky dew
we'll see how it performs when it arrives
So much better than my b760 and it didnt break the bank
clever arrow
Looking up ram for an eventual pc build, i saw this, https://www.allhdd.com/memory/pc4-19200/256gb/805358-256-hp-256gb-4x64gb-2400mhz-pc4-19200-cas-17-ecc-registered-quad-rank-x4-ddr4-sdram-288-pin-dimm-load-memory-for-hp-proliant-gen9-server.-new-bulk-pack./?src=ggl&gclid=CjwKCAiAt4rfBRBKEiwAC678KR_h-6B0iSiUzFIVMW0IauQLwo3tbh3datXtpfNUWWBvk6fxP1bJhRoCjSQQAvD_BwE
why would anyone need a 2 tb ram?!
clever arrow
thread ripper?
abstract gyro
It's a 64 core AMD processor. Only reasonable on Workstations
It's just a beast of it's own
abstract gyro
What's your ideal budget? And will you do any editing or streaming? Or just gaming?
Lol
I need to know to keep the price reasonable
abstract gyro
😂
clever arrow
OK bot how about this, Im a gamer, i play hearthstone, world of warcraft, and few other games on my steam collection. I dont stream much because compared to other streamers im not that great. But i would like to be
abstract gyro
This can be made cheaper
Keep in mind that the cost of a keyboard mouse and monitor will make this way more expensive
clever arrow
i have a keyboard, mouse and screen
a hp basic keyboard
an onn mouse
and a 24 inch emerson XD
clever arrow
upgrade time?
abstract gyro
That depends, what's the resolution on your monitor? The refresh rate?
clever arrow
how would i find that out
abstract gyro
When did you purchase it?
abstract gyro
Lol, I think you might want to upgrade. I just googled it
Is that what it looks like?
abstract gyro
No shame. My mac looks even worse!
From what I've read it's a 720p 60Hz monitor
1080p 144Hz is going to be a world of difference
Think of Hz as the maximum amount of FPS the monitor can push out. The higher the Hz the smoother the video. Resolution will just make the image look sharper and a bit more clear
There's also the choice of going with an ultrawide monitor for 15 dollars more. Since that monitor would only be 75Hz you could also get a cheaper graphics card
clever arrow
ah no wonder why i can only get like 20 fps in world of warcraft
clever arrow
HA
lol
while looking at the graohic card settings for nvidia geforce i see that its native for 60 hz is 1080p, 1920 x 1080
thats with hdmi
in pc its only 1360 x 768
anyways thank you for the help, im going to watch a tv show before going to bed
abstract gyro
Enjoy it man! Feel free to message me anytime. Night!
stable hare
weak hamlet
sounds like a party
naive pendant
ye
naive pendant
guys im making the ultimate workstation cpu battle
deft condor
is it safe to assemble a pc without an I/O shield? I kind of got hungry..
viral knoll
Battle wounds 😎
weak hamlet
or just remove the baord and slide it in :p
weak hamlet
not just a spider
but if your reach around trying to plug something in
STUFF is exposed.
weak hamlet
potential shorting of stuff.
I just wouldn't chance it. take the time and re do it right 😉
weak hamlet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
proud widget
I just found my new love
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145131&ignorebbr=1
Look at all that RGB
clear locust
well, you're just crazy 😛
iron badge
I'd never spend that much on a mobo
open vine
weak hamlet
I wouldn't say fine.... I've seen hotter.
white pollen
if you're on a budget and only want light gaming, you can realistically go for 8gb at a decent clock (AMD processors are more reliant on ram clock). Programming for me has never required more than 8gb. Clicking your link redirects me to the mobile main page for some reason so idk if 8 is what you sent.
copper solar
bunch of other articles about faster ram being better for ryzen
google 😄
the speed is more important than timings but lower cas is nice
proud widget
Well... you would be buying from a Marketplace Seller... I rarely trust those.
proud widget
Hey @wooden dawn @weak hamlet
I have a thought experiment.
Let's say I have a GTX 1080 Ti and 16GB of RAM.
Would I see any major difference if I upgraded to 32GB of RAM?
wooden dawn
What are you using the rig for?
weak hamlet
it depends on what you do with your pc really.
weak hamlet
16gb perfect for any games.
proud widget
Gaming and recording said gameplay.
weak hamlet
32gb good for video editiing.
proud widget
No streaming.
wooden dawn
16GB will be all u need :)
proud widget
Oh... I don't. I WISH I did.
proud widget
lol tbh I could have said 2080Ti... or a 1060. I'm just figuring out if RAM has impacts much when it comes to gaming performance.
Thanks dudes
weak hamlet
fo'sho
weak hamlet
You get your LUCE yet?
naive pendant
@proud widget Im no high spec specialist, but ill try my best, there will be, i guess minimal difference, notable stuff will be if you edit 4K, 5K, 8K and beyond
32GB is EXTREMELY future proof tho, i reccomend getting a stick of 16gb and an 8gb one
sturdy cobalt
its more of a LCE right now
naive pendant
if you mean gaming, get 16gb and your wrapped up in high performance
gentle matrix
so anybody have pics of a threadripper in use? trying to find out what ram looks like on their boards (asrock taichi in particular) and apart from gskill trident i havent seen any pics of ram in a threadripper build
magic copper
hi kinda new to all this and im wondering how to get my memory to run at 3200 x470 gigabyte ultra gaming mobo r7 2700cpu
naive pendant
i think you can boot up to the bios and oc it
lemme send you a video
here are the steps
- Hold down shift as you click restart from your desktop.
- then go: Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Start-up settings > restart
- When your computer restarts, repeatedly press the Del button. (Could also be f2 or esc etc.)
- YOU ARE NOW IN YOUR BIOS.
oh yeah and close all windows before restart
magic copper
thank you
random fiber
Hope I'm at the right place. Newegg customer service sent me to this discord. I only know enough about hardware to be dangerous and I want to be sure I purchase the correct upgraded CPU for the motherboard I currently have. I want to get the best or near best cpu for my motherboard which is at this link: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790
Anyone have a second to lend me a hand? Thank you!!
I currently am running this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095
iron badge
Core i7-3770K
According to Asus that's the best CPU you can buy @random fiber
For that motherboard
random fiber
ty!
iron badge
You may need to update the bios
random fiber
guess I'll have to research how to do that. Thanks again.
iron badge
Np
random fiber
Doesn't appear to be that big of an upgrade from what I can tell though
random fiber
right. Thanks again
iron badge
I'd recommend upgrading your mobo and cpu
A lot of new AAA games request 5th gen i5 or faster
random fiber
going to build a new pc but was going to see what I could do on this one first. Getting faster and more RAM for it at least. Might help
iron badge
You may not see much of an improvement from 16 to 32
But if you do ram and cpu
It could be noticeable
It'd make a good 2nd PC for streaming with a capture card
random fiber
right. maybe I'll just save my money for the new pc
iron badge
I'd recommend that
random fiber
its done good for 7 years though
iron badge
It might not be much more to just upgrade
9th gen or 10th?
;P
10th is right around the corner
random fiber
$$ not sure what would be worth getting. New 9th gen ground up seems to be costing me around 1800 with out monitor keyboard and mouse
random fiber
yeah. wonder if $$ of 9th gen will go down when 10th comes out
iron badge
Maybe
But the sockets are kind of staying the same lately
So if that's the case the motherboard may not go down
random fiber
I've been eyeballing that Asus ROG MB. Seems to be pretty popular
iron badge
Rog is very popular
random fiber
Well, back to work. Thanks again for your insight and help
iron badge
No problem
grave acorn
Have I9-9900K, looking at corsair dominator platinum rgb mem. With z390, do I have to populate all 4 dimm slots, getting 32gb, 4x8gb, or can I use 2 dimm slots for 2x16gb?
iron badge
@grave acorn You can use 2
But I recommend filling the slots
You will not get the full speed if you only use 2of4
naive pendant
Hey team. My laptop won’t boot up now. It say media not present
In bios it detects both SSD and HDD
I can not install fresh windows 10
Bios has been flash to latest too
Someone told me the motherboard bus or capacitor might have fried
And to send it back to manufacture?
weak hamlet
which laptop is it?
have you recently upgraded anything? RAM? HDD?
dropped it? check to make sure the hdd is in good and snugg.
naive pendant
I have upgrade Ram
The Hdd is good and snug the SSD is screw onto motherboard so it cant move
its the MSI GV62
weak hamlet
Are you able to get into bios?
weak hamlet
do you have another hhd to test?
naive pendant
No I do not
weak hamlet
could have hdd failure.
naive pendant
that is the only laptop or computer i have in the house
But it has a HDD an SSD
both failed?
weak hamlet
well if there is only one with windows os.
naive pendant
it would be in the SSD then
weak hamlet
try removing the one with windows.
naive pendant
but I try to install a fresh OS on my HDD and it won't let me
weak hamlet
won't let you? what does it say for that.
weak hamlet
basically we want to see if the drive failed, so if you can remove the ssd (With windows) boot up and see if it shows the media error
naive pendant
when it goes to the install screen I see both drive saying 120 gb free and 900 mb free
weak hamlet
well that 900mb is the same drive..
naive pendant
MSI GV62 8RE-016 15.6" IPS GTX 1060 i5-8300H 8 GB Memory 1 TB HDD 128 GB SSD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop
That the one
weak hamlet
you would need to delete that 900mb and 120gb partition, so you see no partitions (raw) and try to install. it will create a new fresh partition.
naive pendant
so it won't let me delete the partiton
can't create new partition
i try to create like 80 gb of it
and it won't let me
weak hamlet
what does it say?
naive pendant
just say cannot be create with a bunch of text
weak hamlet
when you are in bios, what is the boot order? ssd should be first. if you flash bios it got reset.
weak hamlet
I'm thinking the ssd crapped out though, so if you remove it and see if you can fiddle with the 1tb hdd, but don't actually remove partitions..
naive pendant
would you have time for me to start this process again?
naive pendant
ok i appreciate it
limber portal
guys when the 3rd generation coming up for ryzen
weak hamlet
when you find out let us know.
proud widget
mental creek
id say end of 2019 early 2020.
weak hamlet
that still is just a rumor :p
neon thunder
DDR4 16G (2400) Crucial
I have 1x16 and tried to add 2x8 of similar spec but different maker and it isn’t working on my MSI Gaming 7 motherboard
Won’t boot with just the new sticks either
mental creek
mixing ram is usually a bad idea. can take a lot of effort tweaking timings to get it to work and even then, it might just end up not working.
neon thunder
The new stuff alone won’t work either
Looking to buy another 1x16 like the original
Might be discontinued
Or need new motherboard
weak hamlet
assuming the ram worked previously?
neon thunder
Its from NewEgg 😃 I always assume products from NewEgg work previously. 😃 :trollface:
But yes - i do assume that
weak hamlet
make sure everything is seated good?
even pop em out, and re seat. gpu. 12volt rail, 24pin. sata.
all the things
monitor plugged in? 😄
psu switch on the back?
I have to ask these questions, because we spent hours one day helping someone. and they were switching the psu button on/off instead of the power button on case :p
neon thunder
Ya. All checked. It fires up with no output
I tried all 4 slots
I found the crucial site compatibility hecker
Checker
Pretty narrow list of compatible ram
Oh well. Refund and re-purchase ¯_(ツ)_/¯
neon thunder
i7-5k series
And i have a GTX 980
I could run speccy or dxdiag if you want full specs
Its odd they aren’t interchangeable
weak hamlet
if you can run speccy then your pc is running? 😛
or am I misunderstanding..
lol
PC works with the 1x16 stick?
oh ok I see.
I had to re-read everything
you can pop the new sticks in, and clear your bios
if you've done any tweaking to the number on that 16gb stick, popping in other sticks is going to cause issues.
pop ram out, clear cmos. readd ram. should post then
neon thunder
That last partnI’ll try - but may have questions. But - No changes have been made to the stock RAM, and ya - its just an upgrade:-)
weak hamlet
@vague haven someone messed up on neweggflash 😛
iron badge
Today is deja vu day
neon thunder
if I have a 1x16 stick in DIMM slot 1 - and I want to add 2x8 sticks - will the DIMM slot selection matter?
I am guessing - the 1x16 should go in DIMM 1 and the other two should go in 3 and 5?
i don't mind experimenting - but any insight from you would be great
Ok. I have 1 (2x8) chip in DIMM 1 and DIMM 5 of same type
And put new ram of same specs different maker in DIMM 3 and 7
Should that work in theory?
No output on keyboard or screen.
sudden swallow
I have an ASUS Maximus V Extreme x99. I wanted to know if I could purchase F4-3200C16D-16GTZKY, even though it states, it is for Intel Z170 Platform Chipset, when my motherboard is x99. Thanks.
weak hamlet
as long as the motherboard is ddr4 you will be fine,.
sudden swallow
Thank you, @weak hamlet. That is what I thought, i just wanted to be 100% sure. Thanks again.
tardy tide
can i get some help please
i have a GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard and was wondering what memory i could/should get
naive pendant
there are ram sticks optimized for ryzen
and ryzen also likes higher clocked ram
dont get higher than 3200mhz tho
waste of money
mental creek
ram sticks optimized for ryzen?
iron badge
Nice deal
deep orbit
What would be cool is to be able to upgrade my old Power Mac G4 Digital Audio from 466MHz to the fastest possible CPU... I used to own a Power Mac G4 dual 500MHz but it got hit by lighting via the modem and fried the motherboard/power supply and most everything else inside... You could see the blackened streak where the high voltage started and feathered out all over the board.
urban ferry
ok i have a question and its confusing me a lot
im looking at memory for a computer build, and both the motherboard and processor support ddr4-2933, but i found ram that is ddr4-3000
will it still work?
im asking because its a better price despite the faster speed
weak hamlet
it will work.
amber notch
I'm looking to get AMD RYZEN 3 2200G along with a ASUS Prime X370-Pro but I heard the motherboard bios might not be compatible without an update.
Is that still the case or if the bios in recently manufactured cards might have the proper bios?
urban ferry
thanks @weak hamlet
do you happen to know if it will be bottlenecked by the processor or motherboard? i assume it would, but im no expert
weak hamlet
I would read all the reviews on newegg for that board
3 eggs out of 5 with 183 reviews.
far better boards in that price range in my opinion
amber notch
I just want one with a lot of sata ports for plex server and its the cheapest one with 8 ports
weak hamlet
isn't there a pci card that adds sata ports?
or something of the sorts I'm sure
or maybe just look into a cheap server board?
amber notch
That might be a good idea I'll look for that.
mental creek
@urban ferry imo its best to look for timings than mhz. Thoses seems pretty darn good for price. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232199
U need quite high mhz to justify higher cas. 3000 or bellow try to stick to 14 or 15
urban ferry
Okay, thanks
onyx flume
Anyone have suggestions for a decent mobo for an i7-7700
copper solar
brands? for z270 and h270 mobos from asus msi and aorus/msi will work fine @onyx flume , im partial to asus boards. since you don't have the k variant the h270 with no overclocking capability will work ok.
sharp frost
So I got an intel i5-9400f but now I want to get something with overclocking capabilities... should I get the i5-9600k?
copper solar
any k variant intel will allow overclocking as long as you have a motherboard with a z in the chipset name ie z270 z370 etc etc
sharp frost
Yeah but like, is the power boost worth it? I have an msi z390 so I know I’m good anyway lol
I’m honestly pretty new to building so that’s kinda why I’m here 😂
copper solar
personally, i don't even overclock my 7700K
if you have good aftermarket cooling like an AIO cooler and study enough about it its a fun thing to get into
copper solar
there are tons of guides of how to get into it, i'm way too paranoid about thermal to overclock though.
sharp frost
Lol I understand
wraith plover
there is less reason to OC these days than ever, due to the already high-power CPUs
you might get a few extra FPS, but unless you want to do it 'for fun' and to tinker, I wouldn't bother tbh
wraith plover
right
it's not like an old mobile athlon chip that you can actually push 40% more performance out of by OCing lol
returns are far more diminishing these days
I played around with my 2700X when I first got it just for fun, did a bit of manual OCing...but I've since just set it back to auto and it runs plenty fast on it's own
actually boosts far higher than the advertised 4.3GHz
sharp frost
Yeah see I wasn’t sure because a lot of people were saying that the i5 can be just as good-if not better than- the i7 so I’m not sure
wraith plover
if you're only gaming, an i5 is typically sufficient
sharp frost
Yeah that’s m not mining or anything lmao. I have the i5-9400f, 16gb ram and a 1050ti
copper solar
i5-8600 is gud
naive pendant
Hey what is the difference between a B450 mobo and a B450M mobo?
copper solar
a letter after chipset is usually a variet of that mobo from that motherboard partner
like the Z270E from asus rog has wifi and other things, other letters have diff features and may look different
naive pendant
ok
naive pendant
that is actually what it is
wraith plover
ok yep
dusty skiff
Should I put a 2600 and a gtx 1660 in an $800 build
naive pendant
should you???? IDK
copper solar
i guess im wrong 
iron badge
lol
naive pendant
If you hate it, I will take it off your hands
arctic dome
I got so used to my gtx560 stuttering and giving me 15fps. I can't stand the buttery smooth frames I get now.
I can't imagine what it would be like with a more modern processor like a 2600x
I'm using a 3570k
Also, if you get a 1660, get a two fan. I got the single fan evga xc black because of space and it's a LITTLE hot
dusty skiff
Do u have the ti version
arctic dome
Yup. First Tech thing I ever bought on launch day.
naive pendant
hey when the description says
16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel X299 / Z370 / Z270 / Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model
Does that mean it is only for an intel platform? Or can I use it on an AMD platform as well?
wraith plover
check the motherboard QVL but yes, it will also work for AMD
naive pendant
ok ty
arctic dome
it won't ALWAYS work for an AMD board. There are some modules that have compatibility issues, geil, specifically has had some problems
check the reviews to be sure
arctic dome
^
yeah so make sure you check before buying. Geil has been super transparent about the problems they've had and they have since released a new version that works
iron badge
or you can buy strait up AMD RAM
weak hamlet
str8 ^
arctic dome
and, at least on newegg, they include the information in the product description
weak hamlet
if not there are very helpful "techies" roaming around.
arctic dome
I'm a little triggered I can't use external emotes in this channel.
iron badge
you use to be able to
weak hamlet
eggbot in full effect.
arctic dome
Mike reverse KonMari'd me and took away the things that sparked joy.
weak hamlet
no theo sippin' here
iron badge
that'll mean theo will be less active on here
arctic dome
nooooo
arctic dome
I'm going back to NEP to gush about @copper solar ' excellent karaoke
iron badge
i'm watching AMD stream
weak hamlet
oh has it starteD?
iron badge
29 minutes ago
steady breach
What’s a pretty good and cheap i-5 cpu? I only have a pentium
weak hamlet
would need to know your socket type.
steady breach
300 series
onyx flume
@copper solar thanks very much
still shuttle
Anyone has a suggestion for a Mobo for a i5-4570?
scenic rain
im thinking about upgrading from a AMD fx-6300 to a AMD fx-8370
naive pendant
@scenic rain I have the FX 8350, it is a good processor, and it runs at 4.0Ghz
copper solar
FX-8370 is a very olddddd cpu, you can upgrade for pretty cheap now to a cpu that is at least 1-2 years
iron badge
AM3+ socket and older should be replaced
you need the AM4 socket or 5th gen intel or above for decent gaming
naive pendant
Hey, on the mobo for an AM4 socket, the -K means that you can OC your processor on that board, correct?
naive pendant
ya, but I am asking if the -K is specific to OC'ing a proc
weak hamlet
it's pointless
naive pendant
What is, OC'ing?
naive pendant
lol ok
honest mist
what type of person would fit with an Intel processor? And same with a Ryzen processor?
fair bloom
Me
naive pendant
another question, I have the wraith cooler that I got when I got my 8350, can I use that one on a 2400G? Or is it the wrong size?
I like the wraith cooler because it has pretty lights :0
No one?
half geyser
Which wraith cooler is it
half geyser
It should from what ive looked up
naive pendant
sweet, I don't have to buy a new one, TY
iron badge
You going with an AM4 Socket? @naive pendant ?
naive pendant
ya going to get a 2400G
iron badge
ok
honest mist
can anyone also answer my question please
iron badge
i'd recommend getting a sideways type cooler
weak hamlet
your question was a blanket question.
iron badge
@honest mist shoot
honest mist
okie
iron badge
blanket question?
weak hamlet
"what type of person would fit with an Intel processor? And same with a Ryzen processor?"
iron badge
oh
iron badge
i can't answer that if i was both people
honest mist
etc
weak hamlet
lol
iron badge
intel or AMD work for both
iron badge
Intel is always more on the stable side when it comes to things like CAD or rendering
weak hamlet
that'll do just about everything
naive pendant
honestly, how much money do you have? That is the limiting factor.
honest mist
me?
iron badge
AMD works great for gaming and still works for CAD and rendering, just the software for those is normally designed around intel
honest mist
okay
iron badge
so if you're not going to to extreme rendering or CAD work
naive pendant
I don't want to know, I am just saying, $ is an object, and it limits what you can get. @honest mist
iron badge
then AMD or Intel work
if you're talking about photo realistic rendering multiple times a day
honest mist
oh ok pete
iron badge
then Intel
naive pendant
AMD then
honest mist
okay
iron badge
both work
honest mist
yea im an intel person
naive pendant
true, true
weak hamlet
hold off a bit longer for third gen ryzen.
iron badge
AMD is less expensive, yet can compete with Intel any day
^
that too
2nd gen will drop considerably
and 3rd gen will be available
honest mist
oh ok
iron badge
you should look at 8th gen intel or newer
i would recommend waiting for 10th gen intel
iron badge
because 10th gen should have the nice fix that was found when 6th gen was released and everyone else found out when 7th gen was released
aaaah good old meltdown and spector
honest mist
lmao ok
weak hamlet
lol
naive pendant
Ok I have a conflict, I am trying to see if what I have for a power supply is adequate, or if I need to get a bigger one. I have a TT Smart 500W power supply, when I go to the newegg power supply calculator it says I need a bigger one. However, when I go to PC part picker, it says that I have a good enough power supply. Who is correct???????
copper solar
show me your pc part picker list
half geyser
If youre building a gaming pc you should have usually a 750w id say
naive pendant
copper solar
750 is the safe zone
half geyser
I have a 1000w which is a bit overpower but i have it just incase i need more power at some point
half geyser
for that powersupply you need atleast 750w
For that graphics card i mean
I have a 8gb xfx r9 390 radeon and it requires atleast 750w
Youre 500w probably wont have the 6pin connectors for that 8gb gpu
naive pendant
it has the connectors, but that is not the problem, I just want to make sure that the supply will be big enough
thanks guys
dusky gazelle
quick q is is feasible to upgrade from i5 to i7 and upgrade gen as well or do i need to stay with the same gen
half geyser
you could upgrade
i7 has more cores
but depending on your socket the i7 could seem just the same as your i5 honestly
dusky gazelle
my biggest issue is its alienware/dell...
half geyser
do you know what motherboard you have
dusky gazelle
id have to break it open its the r 51 miniatx
half geyser
well if its the mobo i think it is i would deff upgrade to i7
dusky gazelle
outstanding ty @weak hamlet
fiery cloak
What's a good price for 2x8gb of Kingston HyperX DDR4 2133 ram?
worldly prairie
Ram prices are falling and 2133 is bottom of the barrel stuff
fiery cloak
Is $50 a good cash deal?
tribal ginkgo
Ya
karmic ridge
Yes
worldly prairie
Can’t argue with $50
tribal ginkgo
Thats really good l
karmic ridge
I’d tell them $40
fiery cloak
Some dude messaged me $25 cash 🤔 🤔 🤔
karmic ridge
Are you buying or selling?
karmic ridge
$60 and let them talk you to $50
fiery cloak
RGB
karmic ridge
I was looking at team DDR4 RGB 2666 on @vague haven and it was only $99
mossy glen
I got ddr4 3200 for $110
merry vale
Anyone know when the ryzen 3 drops?
hasty marsh
prob not
regal obsidian
I've been hearing rumors from tech sites that they'll drop in late May or mid-June
merry vale
Oh good because I am going to get build my pc by summer but I am waiting for the 2nd series price to get lower
copper solar
Might be fall
regal obsidian
understandable, I'm doing the same for a friend who want's me to build them a PC
hasty marsh
lol, i forgot i have the same birthday as minecraft
merry vale
Lol
hasty marsh
now thats something to be proud of boys
i just decided fuck it and put ryzen 5 1600 instead of 2200g
regal obsidian
That wouldn't explain all of the price drops and sales as of late though
hasty marsh
extra 27 wont hurt, but the fking amazon tax will, im just relying on my birthday money to get me through that lol
copper solar
1600/2600 is the bare min ryzen I'd put in a gaming system
hasty marsh
but the max i can stretch my budget at this point
regal obsidian
If you're going budget PC though, a 2400G or even the 1200 might be better suited
hasty marsh
budget is less than 550, but the tax brings it to 593, so i hope that b day money will take care of that 50 bucks
copper solar
HE SAID AMAZON, MODSSSSS
hasty marsh
lol
regal obsidian
Waoh
weak hamlet
reeeeeeeeeeeee
copper solar
weak hamlet
at least || cover || it up
weak hamlet
| | <- with out the spaces -> | |
regal obsidian
Maybe even some of the older am3+ cpu's would be good for a budget build
weak hamlet
not an L.
hasty marsh
is g00d 0n3
copper solar
It's ok, saying THAT word is ok
hasty marsh
lol
weak hamlet
IS IT THOUGH
copper solar
merry vale
I am looking at 7 1700 but would the extra ten for the 2600 be better?
hasty marsh
prob
regal obsidian
So wait from what I'm gathering Amazon is adding a tax to their products? Like separate from a state tax?
weak hamlet
wait for third gen to drop
copper solar
Just get intel
copper solar
it just works
hasty marsh
the third gen for all the ryzenS right?
or like for specifics like 3 5 or 7 or whatnot
weak hamlet
Ryzen 3000
hasty marsh
thats gonna be for the high end gaming stuff right
hasty marsh
how much
copper solar
Leaks
weak hamlet
but it will also lower the first and second gens
copper solar
weak hamlet
they will be lower in price regardless
Theo just salty he didn't win today 😦
as am I.
copper solar
Yes
regal obsidian
Idk a CPU is a CPU
hasty marsh
did they tell us if it under the 100 dollar or 200 dollar price range?
copper solar
Whoa whoa ehoa
weak hamlet
Mars that is true, but when it comes to dollar to dollar.
copper solar
Can't just pick any ole cpu
weak hamlet
you can use the money saved for other components :p
regal obsidian
Fair Point
copper solar
Do you want the best coughintelcough or the best per dollar
weak hamlet
I'd ban you if I could Theo
regal obsidian
but the competition is nice between the two
copper solar
weak hamlet
but I made you a Techie instead.
manic mauve
i centrally process units
regal obsidian
especially since Intel was holding a tech monopoly
weak hamlet
Yes.
copper solar
How so
weak hamlet
AMD caught up.
regal obsidian
Literally the only one in the market that held massive control of their stocks a few years ago
manic mauve
intel never had a monopoly, not even close
regal obsidian
Yet they had control of the market
copper solar
manic mauve
k
copper solar
They had control over market for so many years because they couldn't get away from the 2013 FX line
Now ryzen is out and they are catching up
regal obsidian
Exactly
fair bloom
Hey I’m having a high disk usage problem. Anyway I can help it?
copper solar
Task manager saying what's reading/writing?
regal obsidian
That worked for me one time
assuming the error is caused from your boot drive and not anything else
shell yew
SSD, HDD, or M.2?
fair bloom
Hdd
copper solar
When I had a had boot drive, it was always some program updating in background or Windows update.
HDD*
shell yew
Do you just have the hDD?
I'm using a pny for write back caching and it keeps up with 1 Gbps speeds. My game library is there. There's nothign on my m.2 or ssd
5400 or 7200
fair bloom
I’m not home but I gotta check. Bc I think it might be an older hdd. I’ll be switching to an ssd soon
shell yew
That's the only thing I could think of. An older 5400, I mean it shouldn't have any issues, but I've noticed older drives are shot
fair bloom
I bought a tomahawk mother board and a ryzen 7 2700x with 2 ddr4 ram sticks
shell yew
I have a few older laptop drives and an older barracuda i had to can for no reason other than i couldn't get an os on them
fair bloom
So I was going to replace it anyway
regal obsidian
Ah
next mason
So, I need help. After installing VirtualBox, and enabling SVM (AMD Processor) my computers only registering half of my processor cores. There's no direct way to change that in my bios from what I've seen, other than to disbale SMT, which isn't. It's only showing 3 Physical cores and 6 logical ones, when it should be doubled. I put a Linux Distro on my flash drive and b ooted it up and went to the System Monitor, and it registered all 12 cores there. Help? I've tried the Msconfig method too. I'm at a loss.
odd imp
What cpu do you have
next mason
Ryzen 5 1600. Was working fine before. I'm figuring VirtualBox must have screwed something, because it didn't happen until after I tried firing up a virtual machine to test out an OS that didn't have a live testing option.
next mason
Well, I figured out the issue.. For whatever reason, the gaming mode on Ryzen Masters GM profile had legacy mode enabled.. Not entirely sure why.. But I do have another issue I was hoping someone could help me with? It's one I've had for a while, but I can't OC my ram. It's 2 8 gig sticks of G.Skill Aegis. Every time I try to OC it, my computer just cycles 3 times, before even hitting the Bios screen. I'd had it enabled in the past, and running fine (Mostly. The Ram OC caused a game I like a lot, Monster Hunter World to crash frequently. It was only that game.. So, I disabled it.) I wanted to renable the OC, but now it just restarts 3 times, and auto disables it when it finally starts.
naive pendant
Your RAM could be gluing bad, don't mean to curse you like that, but have you tried too do a memory test?
next mason
Yeah, I did a memory test about a month ago (Been having this problem for a long while now, so I know it isn't a recent thing) and everything turned up fine with no errors.
regal obsidian
Ok so for a little bit, RAM compatibility has been bugging me for some reason. Like is it really going to matter if I grab some normal RAM for my 470X board or do I have to find specified RAM for it?
visual echo
X470 ya mean
Well if on ryzen the sweet spot is 300 to 3200 mhz ram on ryzen based cpus
urban prism
That’s good to know wildcard
visual echo
With second gen and 3rd gen ryzen my bee litte bit higher but not by much
The way ryzen architecture is the cpus preety reliant on having q min ram speed
Other wise youth not feeding info to the cpu fast enoigh
But once ya hit the max speed the ram can send data to and from the cpu ect then every 100 mhz or so after that is very null in performance gains if that makes sense
Be lucky to get a extra fram or half a frame for every 100 mhz over that threshold
Hope that helps
In seicetific and mega data crunching yeah it be a big diff but in gaming. And normal use its dimishing returns after that
@next mason Dre could be the version of bios ya running
next mason
I've tried checking the bios. Tried flashing them via internet, and it always says they're on their latest version.
visual echo
I've had a few bios revision on my asrock taught that didn't work quite well with xml profiles
Check online manually unfortunately some time ya got to do a manual flash for newer versions
next mason
I managed to get my Ram to 2666 at the least, which is something. Better than stock speeds. Just irritating, cause I use to be able to run it at 29xx (Can't remember the exact speed, but it was just shy of 3000) with the Bios I'm on now, but now it won't take it.
visual echo
And sometimes ive even had to go or test a beta bios to get a working one
next mason
Keeps making the DRam voltage come up red whenever I try to put it up to 1.35v.
visual echo
2933
next mason
Yeah.
visual echo
Just enable the xml profile
Some ram and boards don't loke overclocking ram unless ya using the reapplied profile as weel
next mason
Yeah, I've tried that as well. That's why I'm at such a loss. lol I'm just scared to flash my bios and brick the board. Won't be able to get a new one for a long while (That and it's a Micro ATX build so it'd be a pain.)
visual echo
Some ya got to manual enable xml some ya got to manual over clock and some just finicky
Well. They didn't have the best micro code bios to begin with they been getting there but they get a few more bugs when ever they update the bios for new cpu support unfortunately
Board have crash free bios no2
Not like ya can brick it very easily
next mason
Ahh, gotcha. I might just have to deal. Looking to upgrade and rebuild a new system once the Ryzen 3000 series comes out, which should be soonish from the recent announcement.
visual echo
Check into the crash free bios support for it
Ussaly even if it won't bot it will auto flash and boot with a USB stick with the bios on it
Then auto flash to a defualt bios
next mason
Alright, I'll look into it.
visual echo
Basically what crash free bios is
There's also some with dual or triple bios like on vid cards
But crash free bios preety much a industry standard now
next mason
Alright, thanks man.
visual echo
Np
next mason
When the ASRock site doesn't even have your motherboard listed. lol Crap.
visual echo
Double check
Make sure ya use the right model board and manufacture bios
Asrock has bee rebuilding their site think they still got a legacy website
dark bough
Is the Gigabyte Aorus x470 worth it?
I’ll be running Ryzen 7 2700x, Gigabyte 1070, 32 GB 3000mhz DDR4 RAM.
PC will be used for coding, virtual machines, school, and gaming.
slim wave
@dark bough If you ever intend to run SLI or Crossfire, or use more than one NVMe drive at full speed, yes. I am currently using an AORUS Gaming 5 X470 board. Not necessarily because of the features, but rather I could get it on eBay for the same price as a B450 board and would have so much more available to me in the future.
visual echo
or any other pci epress add in cards like internal audio and capture cards ect
every add in card uses pci express lanes
i got a asrock taichi ultimate the primary m.2 socket has dedicated pci express lanes directly to the cpu and dont use the normal pci express add in and graphics bus
where as the seconddary m.2 does and has lower maximum speed
so if i wonted 2 m.2 drives at full speed would need a adapter card for the second
for it to use the ful pci express buss
dark bough
Awesome. Thanks @slim wave
modest gyro
Amd fx is the best CPU
snow spindle
? what are any of your recommendations for MB Z370 or Z390 for intel 870k?
I stay with Asus
pearl apex
is the intel core i7 4th gen any; good for gaming? I need to know because im getting a new gpu for it and i hope that it's compatible and that it works well
Im getting the geforce gtx 1660
weak hamlet
gtx 1660 is future proofing.
wary cape
get a vega its what i did and they are now affordable
slim wave
@pearl apex If you're using a 4770k or a 4790k, they're still just fine for gaming, especially overclocked. To be honest with you, though, it would be better paired with a used 1070, 1070ti, R9 Fury, or RTX 2060. Pair it with any of those, and you'll be well capable of 1440p60. I ran an R9 Fury with a 4770k for quite some time, until about January.
@dark bough You're quite welcome.
low ermine
Can mini atx mobos fit in mid tower?
hasty marsh
yes
low ermine
Okay ty
manic mauve
mini atx doesnt exist so no
hasty marsh
not mini atx lol
manic mauve
heh
hasty marsh
mini itx lol
low ermine
micro* atx
hasty marsh
he said mini
manic mauve
micro atx can fit in some, just be sure the case lists it
hasty marsh
so we're not sure what he tryna say
low ermine
Yeah i meant micro
hasty marsh
micro atx will fit in mid tower
manic mauve
well
hasty marsh
i think my case is a mid tower and i went for a micro atx mb
manic mauve
it depends on the mid tower really, sometimes they dont have the standoffs drilled for micro atx
hasty marsh
most should tho
manic mauve
you should be good for the most part tho
hasty marsh
unless you using those extra pcie
manic mauve
what case do you have? do you know the model 3?
hasty marsh
micro atx is pretty good for gaming
manic mauve
model # rather
low ermine
I'm not and no idk the model
manic mauve
k
manic mauve
np
teal mica
Hey guys do you know of any decent am4 motherboards that have built in displayport for sub-$85?
boreal cargo
does this one work? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157841
teal mica
That may work thank you