cpus-mobo-and-memory

[oak sand]

And chipset drivers

Although I heard some people say chipset might be bad idek

Just like an hours worth of downloads

[dull flint]

Yeah something might be borked

I'd try fresh from the top again

It could be the 22h2 bug

[oak sand]

I did it from windows installation media but not through USB just like the install now thing

[oak sand]

Anything specific to get around that this time?

[dull flint]

Use win 10

Fresh install

Straight from the top

[oak sand]

I did from win11-win10 weird

Will do it again ig 💪

[dull flint]

[oak sand]

Have like 500 windows updates though lol. Might see if those help

[dull flint]

Potentially? I found it basically unfixable on my 4090 rig

Had to start fresh

[oak sand]

Damn is it just a coinflip during installation?

I’d go back to win11 if it don’t happen there

[dull flint]

It happens specifically on win 11

[oak sand]

Oh. I’m on win10 rn then

So could it still be it because I went from win11 to win10?

[grizzled bloom]

That's possible

[dull flint]

Yeah possible

I mean I'd do it next just for clarity's sake while the windows install is young you know

Cos you could go through all the other steps and land at that answer later and you're even deeper into installing

[oak sand]

Yeah I had a screwed 3080 for a while that made me reinstall windows like, 5 times

Painful process 😭

Retesting then reinstalling. Thanks for the help y’all are too kind

Cpu score is around 13.8 and graphics is at 32.3 now

A lot more normal it seems, could it just be like not dialed in ram cpu etc etc?

This is with max GPU oc though so probably not

Will reinstall either way

[dull flint]

Yeah I'd go for the reinstall

You'll get like, big stuttering on games with tanked fps in some situations with the 22h2 bug

[oak sand]

I was getting a solid 120 in RDR2 but it looked like 50 with no vsync or freesync on

[grizzled bloom]

How's the lows

That affects the experience a lot more to me

[oak sand]

The lows were like, 90-100 maybe?

[grizzled bloom]

I try to keep my 1% lows at my refresh rate, so the average is a lot higher generally

Not bad

[oak sand]

Yeah and on my old cpu it was buttery smooth

Just gonna reinstall and go from there 🤷‍♂️

[oak sand]

CPU score went up a ton, GPU score a little. Think I just gotta lock in my OC more

And FPS in games were way better

So who knows

[grizzled bloom]

Sounds like that did it

[oak sand]

It went from like, 13.7 to 14.3 with the same settings

[grizzled bloom]

A good 600 points, that's pretty significant

[oak sand]

Technically above average for the setup

I have no clue how some people got like 37.8k graphics score

Gotta be like custom loop or somethin

[grizzled bloom]

Chiller probably

Keep it at a good -20C

[oak sand]

Is the cache not like super sensitive to temperature? Or is that only like high temps

[grizzled bloom]

Sort of but honestly the 7800X3D can run perfectly fine off the stock wraith coolers

They lowered the tjmax so it never becomes a problem, too

[dull flint]

Sounded definitely like the 22h2 bug

[dull flint]

EVC

[sudden creek]

What is 'EVC'?

[grizzled bloom]

External Voltage Controller

Hard mod where you bypass the power delivery on the GPU and use an external card you solder on

[sudden creek]

oh

[compact zenith]

So fixed the lights and false CPU failier beeping. Now last puzzler, is why is my server booting up on its own. My daughters same thing. Entire family same motherboard, and CPU I7. I'm the only one who got the I9. Fact it's happening to my daughters pc as well, quite baffling. Oh, forgot to mention the issue. Both computers are powered off, not sleeping. Off. Some time after 1am or 2am, they power on and boot themselves to windows. Back in the days, this behavior was caused by one of our cats, stepping on a keyboard, or shoving a mouse out of the way, but those times were sleep state. This, they are completely shut off. Yet 1 to 2 am, they boot up on their own.

[vast meadow]

Make sure wake from usb is disabled in bios

Or something along those lines, might be power on instead of wake, ik my motherboard has that option

If that doesn't work, clear cmos and re-enable xmp and any other changes that would have been reset that you changed (fan profile possibly being one)

[compact zenith]

I'll take another look, thanks. I had to look at my z390 and compare the bios with the z690, both Aorus Master. Was supposed to see a lot of features were only renamed and moved to sub menus. If this fixes it, I'll be set.

[scenic solar]

So...
I just found out about pcie bifurcations and I was wondering if a x16 to two x8 is like just PnP, is it?
I'd like to also add a 4 port nic on my so called "server" that only has one x1 pcie lane slot available (actually there would be another one if I consider the m.2 slot but let's keep it for later on), this NIC has x4 pcie interface and I was trying to figure out if it could work (maybe just one port (that'd still be ok) or if it will straight up not work. Of course I'd need an adapter to connect the thing

Bad alternative: cut the pcie slot to allow for bigger expansion card

[grizzled bloom]

It's not quite plug and play. The motherboard, CPU, and add in cards all have to support it and you'll need to enable it in bios.
A mining riser might be what you're looking for. It'll give you a x4 slot at x1 (or x4 on higher end risers) wherever you need it and some even run over USB.

And of course the risers are dirt cheap since the crypto crash

[dull flint]

@teal badge so not all cpus, ram and motherboards are created equal

They all run to certain ranges considered acceptable in production

So one cpu might love doing x at y speed

And another likes doing z at v speed

But both are acceptable

So what this means is you can't just simply copy anyone's work and expect it to work unfortunately

What works for one person won't necessarily if at all work for another

https://youtu.be/dlYxmRcdLVw?si=HA-HfWg0_iZ45aqA

What makes this video good is this works on almost every damn cpu in existence

It uses a safe range of timings expected to work

Rather than something specifically tuned by someone else to the fastest their cpu can go

[teal badge]

alr

thanks

ill go watch the video

[dull flint]

Similarly yours can do it's own speed

And could be better or worse

It's all a lottery

I'd just do the easy timings video and then do a day of stress testing with like

Testmem5 on the anta777 config

And run 6000-6400 MHz

The result will be far, far better than any 8000+ XMP

You could aim for like, nearer 8000? Maybe 7600? But I reckon you'd be spending far more time than a day

Maybe weeks of testing to pull off

And the result will only be a couple% faster if not even slower in some situations

Than just, 6000-6400

Due to the desyncing that happens above 6400

Make sense? @teal badge

Cos I have to go in a minute but I think you'd be way better sticking to the $80 kits I'm suggesting

Remember, always, always stress test if you do any overclocking

Here's a link to where to get testmem5 anta777

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

Run that for at least 3 passes, but to be safe do 10

[teal badge]

so just overclock the timings and it will be better than 8000mhz xmp?

[grizzled bloom]

On AMD yes

The issue running at that speed is you're running the uclk at half the mclk, which severely harms performance in most tasks

[teal badge]

what is uclk and mclk

[grizzled bloom]

uclk is one of the clocks related to the CPU communicating with the RAM, mclk is the actual memory clock

When you're running at 6000, mclk=uclk and both are at 3000
Running at 8000, mclk/2=uclk so mclk is 4000 and uclk is 2000

The memory itself is faster than the CPU is communicating with the memory

[teal badge]

so what you want to do is having mclk = uclk?

[grizzled bloom]

That's the most efficient way yes

[teal badge]

so ill just need to overclock my timings

[grizzled bloom]

And the CPU isn't going to be capable of running more than 3000-3200 uclk so you're looking at 6000-6400 memory speed depending on luck

Timings are a much better way to overclock here yes

[teal badge]

so ill buy the t create ram with 5600 and overclock it to 6400 with lower cl latency?

[grizzled bloom]

That would work well yes

As long as it's hynix memory you can follow those timings from the video

You can tell if it's hynix based on the timings. If it has flat timings (40-40-40-40 or 32-32-32-32, like that) then it's definitely samsung and you should avoid

This would be hynix more than likely, 32-36-36 timings https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01

[teal badge]

so to wrap things up, im buying the kit u sent me and overclock the speed to 6400mhz and overclock the cl and it will runs better than a xmp 8000mhz?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

6400 will be based on your luck of the draw for the CPU though

You could be stuck as low as 6000

It would still be better by far

[dull flint]

Most likely yes

And difficulty is waaaayyyyy lower than trying to run 8000

[teal badge]

so should i buy the tcreste or rhe tforce

[dull flint]

Tcreate if you want to tune

Vulcan if you want to just turn on xmp and go

Tcreate is definitely a die, best sticks by far for ddr5

Vulcan could be A or M

M is still very good

[teal badge]

i noticed the t create has a very bad cl latency

[dull flint]

Gitta go sorry

[teal badge]

does it mean that i will be harder to oc the timings?

[grizzled bloom]

A or M doesn't matter on AMD tbh

[teal badge]

ok np

[teal badge]

so just get a vulcan to oc and ill be fine?

[grizzled bloom]

Either kit works since you'll be tuning it anyway

But the Vulcan kit would be better if you weren't tuning

[teal badge]

so this is tuning right?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

Overclocking, tuning, same deal different name

[teal badge]

hm

theres a 6400mhz cl32 t force expert kit

is it better than the 5600mhz cl46

[grizzled bloom]

Theoretically

Though theory and reality are often not the same

[teal badge]

should i buy the 5600mhz cl46 or 6000mhz cl48

it is for the same price as the 5600mhz

[grizzled bloom]

I'd do 6000 c48

[teal badge]

thanks guys

[grizzled bloom]

Happy to help

[teal badge]

so heres my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZq2mD

[grizzled bloom]

Looks pretty good to me. I'm guessing the SN770 was chosen for a reason?

[teal badge]

no

i couldnt find a 2tb that doesnt break the bank

[grizzled bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VJgXL/teamgroup-mp44l-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101

[teal badge]

its either not available or just notoriously bad pricing

(in my country)

also that 2tb one is for only $80

[teal badge]

im guessing lowering the latency (cl) timings of the ram also decrease the speed of it?

[grizzled bloom]

Lower cas latency is better

But you don't need to worry about the rated speed since you'll be overclocking

[grizzled bloom]

Which country?

[teal badge]

im just gonna say south east asia

[grizzled bloom]

That's ok if you don't want to say, I just wanted to see if I could find a better deal but it wouldn't save you all that much in the long run

[dull flint]

5600 cl46 is guaranteed hynix 6000 cl48 is not

So 5600 cl46

[grizzled bloom]

He'd know better than me on that

[scenic solar]

Listed as broken, user says "don't know the reas why it doesn't work"
Well... I also wonder why...

[split copper]

Fascinating

[grizzled bloom]

I see no problems here.
All that plastic is optional.

[compact zenith]

I don't see those settings on the Aorus Master Z690, but am going to test something tonight. Sorry for late reply, just saw this and done a lot of googling to find out what many, like yourself similarly said, I found a similar setting on a driver that Microsoft replaced as better than what the motherboard came with, which has a two line option in windows itself to power up on both Ethernet adapters and WiFi. Going to uncheck it tonight and see if that fixes it by tomorrow morning, as I don't feel like sitting at that server, waiting hours for it to boot up on its own lol. Worse than watching a pot boil as the old saying goes.

[compact zenith]

this isn't something that just started happening by the way. It was one of three issues I been happening with only my system. I built 4 of them back in August 2022. Only difference between mine and rest of family, is mine has an I9 CPU and a 1600w platinum EVGA power supply, theirs is I7 and Gamax PSU. You don't have to tell at me for that. I have 3 more EVGA PSUs still waiting to install, but my two kids and wife won't let me replace them since they don't want to give up their RGB PSUs just yet. Oh, forgot. I also have a 6gb RTX RGB card, theirs are 12gb. Hence why I was the only one getting the 5 beep CPU failier warning when monitor was off. Only been this week I had all the time in the world to get those issues fixed, leaving the random powering up one last to be fixed. I got into a nasty scooter accident. Was thrown from my scooter, because the idiotic cable company putting in fiber optics late. They stopped in 2020 due to pandemic and only started up recently in my neighborhood. They cut 6 inch swaths of cement out of the sidewalk in front of every house, then didn't bother to put lights or barriers of any type out when they left for the weekend, so not knowing the sidewalks were missing those 6 inch with swaths, was going uphill and front wheel fell right in, throwing me at about 10mph. Tore both knees up, cracked a knee cap, and got glass in one knee and fingers. Two broken fingers, and fractured right arm, In a weird way that it only hurt when moving fingers. Wasn't wearing a helmet, so lucky I didn't hurt my head, but was wearing knee pads out of habit as scooter I use, was a recall. Amazon refunded me for 3 of them and let me keep them if I purchased the replacement PCB and wheel assembly to fix the deadly manufacturer defect of the Machweel scooters, which killed someone already. They used to go 25mph, but manufacturer forced updates to drop them to 10mph which is what caused so many accidents, that Amazon banned their selling by user and manufacturer

Combined. The issue is, even if you don't install the application, that scooter has a check that it will do if it passes any open WiFi

when it's updating, it locks the front wheel till it's done. Problem is, it's hardwired in to lock that front wheel no matter what, without even checking to see if scooter is in use. So imagine going 25mph and drive by a Starbucks shop with open WiFi. You will suddenly be flying. Which happened to me at 10mph, hence why I use the gear now, even though I replaced the bad hardware.

so when wheel fell into the hole and I was thrown, my knees clipped the edges of the open sidewalk, pushing them up and tore my knees and broke kneecap.

So yeah, I got some free time for a few weeks. Not allowed to work while on pain meds, or drive a scooter for that matter.

oh, very extremely rare occasion, I won't be handling the case prose. My area of expertise is civil, and this accident involved both retail, and state, so not a pretty situation to have to deal with

I'm great doing my own cases, 100% win civil, but this one id screw it up. So I'll let someone else deal with it 😉

That's my novel for today 🤣

Oh, if this does fix my problems, the windows setting, I'll let you know. Seems a lot of bios settings, are getting moved to Windows 11 as features. If a setting is missing from bios, and not renamed, it's likely the OS controlling it now.

[fast moth]

Chat gpt summarize this essay

[vast meadow]

Your English teacher may have told you to right more but take that advice and shove it in the bin, noone wants to read an essay like that

Way to many words noones gonna read that, just being brutally honest

[split copper]

Word efficiency is a wonderful thing

I just shortened your paragraph into a 6 word sentence pato how does it feel 😎

[compact zenith]

Lol. In 2002, got an email from an English teacher who read one of my articles on EA's website, when I used to work for Stratics and EA, promoting Ultima Online. Was quite insulting on how I would never have survived his English class had I been one of his students. Turned out, he was my 9th grade English teacher from like 13 years prior. Stopped by the school, went to his classroom with an autographed copy of Ultima Online with what might have been the shortest message I ever written in history. (I was) LX. Put it on his desk while he was teaching a class, and watched him walk over. Took a minute for him to realize who I was when he paled 😂

I used to order extra Ultima games for him when I was in highschool. I bought from Computer Software Service, at 60% off. This was when the C64 was a big thing.

I also used to complain that writing current events off of two chalk boards every day, was too much writing.

[compact zenith]

It's been fully tested. Found the fix for the problem of z590 and Z690 Aorus Master motherboards booting up on their own from a full shut down, not sleep mode but full shut down. Seems on newer Gigabyte motherboards, options normally set in bios, have been moved to the OS, Windows 11 at least. Check the properties of the connected Ethernet adapter. If turn on power is checked, uncheck it and when you shut down, system will not boot back up.

[naive pendant]

how can you find what controller the Z790 Ace uses for there Lan Ports

[long geyser]

The manual mentions that there are two controllers but no mention of controller type. The LAN driver description mention it's for I225 or I226 tho.

[naive pendant]

probably 2 crappy i226 v controllers that drop connection lol

[ocean cradle]

Hey, what is more powerful? An AMD 5 2400g, or an AMD A6-8500E series

[burnt spear]

2400g

But both are very old and I wouldn't recommend either normally

[long geyser]

If both are cheap AF/free, go for 2400g cuz way more modern platform as well as faster. Very high chance to work with AMD's last gen CPUs (basically only wont work if mobo vendor is sad and pathetic with BIOS updates).

[eternal helm]

@grizzled bloom laptop upgrade was a major success thanks again for the hardware choosing help

[scenic solar]

what are some good and usually cheap (used) lga 1151 cpus? is there anything comparable to like a R5 2600 for 40-50 bucks?

[burnt spear]

8400 might be cheapish

Otherwise 8700, 9700, 9400

Potentially 7700k if cheap enough

[burnt spear]

Every 14th gen cpu

[fast moth]

What does T mean?

[burnt spear]

Mini pc sku normally

Low power

[left steppe]

what cpu would pair best with a amd 6750 xt

[burnt spear]

Depends on budget and what you're doing

[left steppe]

no budget just ballin tbh

[burnt spear]

7800x3d

But sensically, 5500, 5600, 12400f, 12600k, 7600

[left steppe]

i would prefer a intel cpu what are the differences between those ones

[burnt spear]

Brand is irrelevant when it comes to cpus now, cpu doesn't change user experience at all

[left steppe]

im aware

[burnt spear]

You can get a 5500 for $60 and a b550 aorus elite for $50 on tiktok shop

[left steppe]

idk i cant really explain it

[burnt spear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7gsYN6

Get the motherboard and ram on tiktok shop on two separate accounts using the new user coupon

If you want a bit better of a motherboard, asus b660 pro art is $90 after the coupon

And there's a teamgroup 6000mhz ddr5 kit for like $46 after the coupon

[left steppe]

would it be worth upgrading? i currently have an i7-17000

[burnt spear]

11700 is plenty for a 6750xt

11700 is fine with a 3090

[left steppe]

is there any bottlenecks or anything like that with what I curently have?

[burnt spear]

It's impossible for there not to be a bottleneck

[left steppe]

i mean like something noticeable

[burnt spear]

What ram, power supply, case, and monitor do you have

11700 with 6750xt, even at 1080p, gpu is the limiting factor

[left steppe]

wym??

[burnt spear]

The gpu will hit 100% usage before the cpu does

[left steppe]

i use a 1440p btw

[burnt spear]

In most scenarios

1440p uses gpu more than cpu, so even moreso

That isn't a bad thing though

You kinda want the cpu to be more than the gpu needs, being cpu limited in games isn't a good experience

[left steppe]

so i’ll be fine with what i currently have

[burnt spear]

Yes

[sudden creek]

Is this ram good or bad?

https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/aw/d/B0B62KL5B6/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&psc=1

I need more then 32gb and this seemed tempting as it says Hynix ICs.

[grizzled bloom]

That review that shows the die is for a different kit, with 2x16gb

[sudden creek]

Ahh shucks.

[grizzled bloom]

One person does indicate that it's DJR for the 2x32gb too, could be dual rank

Hard to tell for sure but you might get lucky

[sudden creek]

It's amongst the cheapest 3600cl16/18 kits so I guess it doesn't hurt to try.

[grizzled bloom]

One thing is for sure, you'll have more trouble running 64GB at high speed

[sudden creek]

Any clear way to tell if it's a good die when I get it?

[grizzled bloom]

2 sticks gets you the best chances but it can be a pain

[sudden creek]

Gotcha.

[grizzled bloom]

Run thaiphoon burner's report

It can give you a guess on the die

(emphasis on GUESS)

[sudden creek]

I am pretty sure I am board limited to 3933 so I am more focused on timings.

How hard is it to delid ram?

[grizzled bloom]

Trivial, heat it up and pry it off

Try not to pull the ICs off with it though

[sudden creek]

Will my hair dryer work?

[grizzled bloom]

How hard that part is depends on the thermal solution they used. Pads, easy. Glue, you'll have a bad time.

Yes

[sudden creek]

What about putting it back together?

[grizzled bloom]

Easier than disassembly

[sudden creek]

What do I need?

[grizzled bloom]

Thermal pads

thin ones probably

That's it

[sudden creek]

Can I reuse the pads on the ram?

[grizzled bloom]

If it has pads and they don't tear

A lot of cheaper manufacturers will use thermal glue instead and you're not re-bonding that

[sudden creek]

Is glue better then pads for heat transfer?

[grizzled bloom]

no

[sudden creek]

Gotcha.

What size thermal pads should I look for?

[fast moth]

Bro finally updated his specs 💀

Bro doesn’t have a 5090ti

[grizzled bloom]

Either 0.5mm or 1mm, it'll depend on your exact sticks

[sudden creek]

xD unfortunately so.

Waiting for Jensen to send me the prototype.

xD.

[sudden creek]

So get both just in case?

What about length?

[grizzled bloom]

You cut to fit

[sudden creek]

Gotcha.

Is 6W/MK decent?

[grizzled bloom]

No but DDR5 doesn't get hot anyway so it doesn't matter

If it was a nvidia GPU with GDDR6X you'd want 12 minimum

[sudden creek]

What about DDR4?

[cursive epoch]

same case

[sudden creek]

K.

[grizzled bloom]

I'm so used to talking about DDR5 now, whoops lol

[sudden creek]

Does DJR get very hot like Micron B-Die?

[grizzled bloom]

If you push 1.7v down the pipe it will

[sudden creek]

Gotcha.

[grizzled bloom]

But if you're not going over, say, 1.5v or so, it'll be fine

[sudden creek]

Doubt my board can handle speeds that require that many volts.

[grizzled bloom]

Especially with 64gb

[sudden creek]

Is 120mm long enough?

[grizzled bloom]

You'll be cutting little squares out of it to fit the memory ICs

It doesn't need to be too big

[sudden creek]

Oh, okay.

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Thermalright-Almohadilla-conductiva-almohadilla-almohadillas/dp/B0B82HNMPH/ref=mp_s_a_1_45?crid=3ABILUXRW8ROY&keywords=thermal+pad+1mm&qid=1696994508&sprefix=thermal+pad+1mm%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-45

Found this for cheap

And it claims 15W/MK.

[grizzled bloom]

Thermalright is good, that's what I used on my 3090

Overkill for system memory but hey

[sudden creek]

Overkill is always better then not imo.

If I had to, would it be a bad idea to stack 2 0.5mm thermal tape pieces together?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes, the air gap would insulate the heat

[sudden creek]

Ahh shoot.

Man this is adding up in cost real fast.

[grizzled bloom]

You don't really need to delid it

Thaiphoon gives a good enough guess to start overclocking and you can tell once you start overclocking if it's right based on behavior

[sudden creek]

Is there another way to check for the IC without guessing?

[grizzled bloom]

Not on that brand

[sudden creek]

What were the brands again?

G.Skill I know is one.

[grizzled bloom]

Corsair has the version number but don't buy their DDR4, garbage PCB

[sudden creek]

Anyone else?

[grizzled bloom]

Patriot is fairly consistent

[sudden creek]

Is that the brand?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

[sudden creek]

Oh just found them.

[grizzled bloom]

Even the ones that have serial numbers you can decode are still just guessing tbh

I've seen g.skill sticks claiming to be b-die that were actually c-die

[sudden creek]

Seriously?

[grizzled bloom]

You don't have to know the exact die to get started

If you have a general idea (hynix something for example) you can dial in some basic timings and tune manually from there

[sudden creek]

Found a G.Skill Ripjaws for kit for $10 more.

3600c18-22-22-42 1.35v

[grizzled bloom]

Could be anything with those specs

[sudden creek]

Are there any Hynix ICs that degrade with voltage?

Like say 1.45v

[grizzled bloom]

1.45v is required to be a safe ceiling according to DDR4 spec

[sudden creek]

So even if I don't delid so long as I stay within 1.45v on the Skywalker kit I should be fine?

[grizzled bloom]

In other words no, there's no dies that will degrade rapidly at 1.45v

So that kit will be fine even if it turns out to be a weird IC

[sudden creek]

Gotcha.

Think I will save myself a few bucks and do the Skywalker kit then.

Especially since it limits the possible ICs down to Hynix only.

[grizzled bloom]

Considering they're 32GB sticks that means that it'll have to be 16Gb ICs so that limits the possibilities

[sudden creek]

What's the most likely?

[grizzled bloom]

If it's Hynix it would be 16Gb AJR, MFR, or CJR

[sudden creek]

CJR is bad right?

Is AJR or MFR decent?

[grizzled bloom]

8Gb CJR is ok, better than samsung C die

16Gb CJR is different

[sudden creek]

Is 16Gb CJR okay for oc?

[grizzled bloom]

It's a relatively new IC and my info is outdated, let me look

[sudden creek]

I gtg to sleep now. I appreciate the help and will be sure to read the info in the morning if you would be so kind as to ping me in it.

[grizzled bloom]

Info on 16Gb CJR is hard to find. It seems to be a rare die.

[patent rampart]

Ok, I am a smidge confused, I have a SATA m.2 SSD can I can't seem to get it detected by my new motherboard, I read the manual and I don't see anything about SATA here

Also, this is how I have it setup

[hollow thorn]

The mobo might not support sata on the m.2 slot

[patent rampart]

From what I am reading, this seems to be the case. I was gonna try a bios update, but I don't think that will help what so ever

[hollow thorn]

Yea if it's not supported physically there's no way to change it with software

[patent rampart]

Luckily this is an excuse to buy another nvme drive (I just bought a 2TB nvme a week ago for schooling lmao)

[burnt spear]

Check tech deals, can get a 2tb pretty solid ssd for $45

Iirc its 45 anyways

Ah nvm it was taken down

P44 pro for $30 is really nice, 1tb though

It's among top 3 gen 4 ssds, though that doesn't really matter for gaming

[patent rampart]

Honestly all I need is 1 TB, I only bought a 2 TB so I can run windows and Linux with a respectable about of space for each.

[burnt spear]

Then either that p44 pro, or one sec I'll find some others

They are on tiktok shop though, with new user coupon

It's sold by newegg though

Oh p41 plus should still be $45 for 2tb if you'd like

[patent rampart]

P41 is what brand? I am not familiar with it

[burnt spear]

Otherwise m390 for the cheaper option, solid gen 3 drive, or p44 pro

It's a model name, p41 plus, by solidgim, which is a subdivision of hynix

It's a very nice ssd

P44 pro is by the same brand

M390 is MSI

[patent rampart]

Is this the one you are talking about? https://www.newegg.ca/solidigm-2tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329022?Item=N82E16820329022&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-329-022-_-10112023

[burnt spear]

Yes, in the us on tiktok shop you can get it for $45 though, I don't know if you can get a similar price in Canada on tt shop

One sec, I'll find reccs for Canada not on tt shop

[patent rampart]

I mean, price isn't a big deal imo, as long as I don't get ripped off I am happy haha

[burnt spear]

This would be good https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/rqhv6h/western-digital-blue-sn580-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0e for 1 tb

And 2tb https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

[patent rampart]

I will probably go with the team group one, 89 dollars for 2 TB is fairly good as I will only be using the drive for games and school stuff

[burnt spear]

Theyre both similar in performance, so size is the main factor between the two of them

[patent rampart]

Next question, how do I now get the data off of that drive, my laptop can't see the drive either

[burnt spear]

I'm not sure if it'd work since it's an m.2 Sata drive, but an enclosure might work

[patent rampart]

I think an enclosure is the only way to go

[naive pendant]

Which desktop CPU brand is better for multi thread computing AMD or Intel

[burnt spear]

atm intel 13th gen

what's your budget for cpu mobo and ram?

or the whole build?

[naive pendant]

CAD $5000-$6000 for the whole build

[burnt spear]

yeah 13900k all the way

[naive pendant]

I figured as such what is difference between K and KS in 13900

[burnt spear]

as a general idea of what to expect https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qv3HGP

[burnt spear]

13900ks is pointless if you're not very into overclocking

[sudden creek]

Very small gains and is only really meant for overclocking enthusiasts like Bacca said.

Roughly 5% boost in performance for a huge uplift in cost.

[sudden creek]

$2200 for a Zotac 4090?!

[burnt spear]

Canadian

And that's the cheapest 4090

Also it's not even 5%

Like 2% in most scenarios, not including ocing

[sudden creek]

Oh okay.

Thought it was USD.

[dull flint]

Basically 0% if you don't pour liquid nitrogen on it

[sudden creek]

What IC do you guys think this could be?

DDR4 2x32 3600cl16-19-19-39 1.4v

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Mushkin-Redline-Lumina-escritorio-MLA4C360JNNM32GX2/dp/B093G943JW/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=DQQWN92JCAYU&keywords=DDR4%2B64gb%2B1.4v&qid=1697290851&sprefix=ddr4%2B64gb%2B1.4v%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-8&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.4e545b5e-1d45-498b-8193-a253464ffa47&th=1&psc=1

[burnt spear]

It's not Rev e or B die, I can say that much

[sudden creek]

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Ddr4-Ram-computadora-bidimensional-Creative/dp/B0CKWWBMDN/ref=mp_s_a_1_51?crid=DQQWN92JCAYU&keywords=DDR4+64gb+1.4v&qid=1697291111&sprefix=ddr4+64gb+1.4v%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-51&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.4e545b5e-1d45-498b-8193-a253464ffa47

3600c16-30-20-38 1.4v

[burnt spear]

Same thing there

[sudden creek]

Honestly kinda tempted dur tk how cheap it is.

[burnt spear]

For b die, look for flat timings

Like 16-16-16-36 or something like that

14-16-16-36

Pretty sure those are both b die bins

[sudden creek]

Thought B-Die doesn't work for 32GB sticks without special board?

[burnt spear]

Not a clue

What cpu is this ram for btw?

[sudden creek]

5700G. My current ram isn't stable and 32GB hasn't been enough.

[burnt spear]

Then whatever cheapest 3600c16 kit you find, unless you're tuning it doesn't really matter much, and if you can't do b die or Rev e then it matters less

3600c18 would be more than fine too

[sudden creek]

Shoot just realized this is 32GB not 64GB.

I plan to tune.

[burnt spear]

Then if it's worth it to you you could look for 4x16 b die

Or Rev e, used potentially for either if you're fine with that

Apus can typically do higher speeds than non apus for amd

I've seen 5600g stable at 4400mhz gear 1

[sudden creek]

Unfortunately I am board or CPU limited to 3966 I think.

Lemme checkout used.

Yeah used isn't a good value option.

Everyone is charging a premium.

[vast meadow]

Why would you need 64gb?

[sudden creek]

Adobe.

[vast meadow]

My condolences

[ornate aspen]

Would love CPU recommendations for a new build.. Currently using Asus Tufgaming z790, 64g DDR5 5600... Tried an I7 13700k and it about melted down. Was running almost 90C with 0 load while connected to an arctic freeze 2 240... TIA

[burnt spear]

Either aio is dead, mount was bad, or paste wasn't done well

Or the motherboard was feeding the cpu way too much power, which is what mine did to my 13600k

But that shouldn't be the case under no load

[ornate aspen]

aye... reseated and repasted several times. Checked the AIO, could feel one line hot, the other cold. Terribly frustrated.

[burnt spear]

If you put your ear by the pump could you hear humming?

[ornate aspen]

hmm, it was very quiet... I could hear the water churning when I started up the PC and could feel slight vibration.

[burnt spear]

Temp issues like that I highly doubt would be cpu related

[vast meadow]

Go into bios, make sure the aio is set to 100% if there's an aio pump options

[burnt spear]

When you put the aio on, did you screw one screw all the way in?

Or do an x pattern

Sorry, like on the cpu

[ornate aspen]

I did... even undervolted the cpu and managed to get it to 78C

[burnt spear]

Not on the case

[ornate aspen]

x pattern on the AIO

[vast meadow]

What case do you have?

[burnt spear]

Did you do it gradually, like going back and forth a few times? I normally do like 4 or 5 times on each before they're fully tightened

[ornate aspen]

Even tried with just two screws (opposit corners) to see if that helped.

Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case

[burnt spear]

Like top right, bottom left, bottom right, top left and then do that 4-5 times

And what thermal paste and how much are you using?

[vast meadow]

I'd say it's a mounting issue then

[burnt spear]

When you've remounted it have you redone the paste each time?

[ornate aspen]

pea sized glob in the middle, ARCTIC MX-6

[vast meadow]

Your temp shouldn't be that high when the load is practically 0, can't be the cpus fault because then it'd be pulling like 200w+ which wouldn't be the problem

[ornate aspen]

yes, cleaned all past off with alcohol and paper towels, and repasted between seatings

[burnt spear]

You're doing everything right, so this is really odd

[vast meadow]

Oh that's not actually needed but oh well

[ornate aspen]

Didn't even load OS

Just bios

then it started to hang and lag on bios

[vast meadow]

Just to confirm you did do this, and not just one at a time?

[ornate aspen]

yes

[vast meadow]

Something is going wrong with the mounting then

[ornate aspen]

well, thinking about it... I tightened one screw at a time, but in the x pattern

[burnt spear]

Do it gradually

[vast meadow]

Ah that's your problem

[ornate aspen]

didn't tighten it down super tight until all were snug

[burnt spear]

Like turn each one rotation at a time, that's excessive but easiest way to make sure it's good

[vast meadow]

You gotta go a bit of one, move to opposite, etc

1 turn at a time would take ages but I'd say 5 a time should be fine

Or at least like 3

If you wanna be safe

[ornate aspen]

wondering if an i7-12700K would run a bit cooler

[burnt spear]

If you're going to change cpu, go to 13600k and just grab a dual tower

Also, are you just gaming?

Or doing multi core tasks

[ornate aspen]

Mostly 3d graphics and video editing

Zbrush, Maya, Photoshop, Premiere. etc..

with gaming on the side

[burnt spear]

Ah, so multi core tasks

You'd definitely want to either get this 13700k figured out or go down to a 13600k

Multi core from 12700k to 13600k diff is pretty significant

[ornate aspen]

is the 13600k the I5? I haven't had to build a workstation in over 10 years.

so I'm behind the curve on what's available... using PCPartpicker to determine compatability

[burnt spear]

Yeah i5-13600k

[dull flint]

So biggest piece of advice I want to give you, throw out all the i9, i5, i7 stuff

[burnt spear]

Yeah

[dull flint]

It's basically irrelevant now

[ornate aspen]

good to know

[burnt spear]

13600k matches the 12th gen i9 in multi core and beats it in single core

[dull flint]

A 13600k has more cores, power and performance across the board versus any older i9 except a 12900k

Pretty much yeah

So it's pointless to focus on the labels cos one's a 16 core processor, the other is like 14 cores

[ornate aspen]

aye... I just worry about over heating now... It has been a frustrating build. Started off with the wrong ram being shipped.

[burnt spear]

Yeah thats annoying

[ornate aspen]

Packaging up the AIO and going to return it most likely and get the larger one that still fits in the case

been over a week now trying to get this new machine built and running.

[burnt spear]

Oh I have a few suggestions for aio, if that's fine

[ornate aspen]

please, all ears.

[burnt spear]

4000d airflow fits 360mm, right?

[dull flint]

Send us ur build, we can help

If not sent already

Like a list not the actual thing

[burnt spear]

Yeah do you have a pcpartpicker.com list?

[dull flint]

Lol

[burnt spear]

No send us your actual build

[dull flint]

💀

[ornate aspen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9vjL9c

hehe

[burnt spear]

Pls no on the gpu

Have you received all of it?

[dull flint]

Hold on

Hold on

[ornate aspen]

yes, GPU returned

[dull flint]

Hm

[burnt spear]

Also do you want rgb or no

[dull flint]

Well whoever helped you with this, they picked at least the most vram heavy option at the low end

Which isn't bad for workstation

[burnt spear]

Can get 3060s for much less though

I've seen $265 for 3060 12gb

[ornate aspen]

Dang...

[dull flint]

Ok the cooler is fine

The cpu is fine

[ornate aspen]

Not familiar enough to understand teh RGB

[dull flint]

The mobo could swap

Ssd swap

Ram swap

Gpu I would go like, used 3080 or 7800xt

Psu swap

They're all like, okay? Options

But you could do way better

[ornate aspen]

most likely

[dull flint]

Get far better bang for your buck

[ornate aspen]

but PC building not being my forte, seems like it is working well enough except for the CPU

[burnt spear]

So I made some changes, but I understand not wanting to return all of this. The mobo I'd change too but I just left that. Can't believe I'm actuallt suggesting a 4060 ti, but 16gb vram and it's very nice for productivity https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7PJRKX

The psu is good, this one is just similar quality for less

Ssd is just as good for $10 less, so whatever either is fine

Ram is a good bit better for same price

[dull flint]

@ornate aspen are you doing blender at all

If not change the 4060ti to the 7800xt

[ornate aspen]

Felix, no, just Maya

[burnt spear]

That's a good point ^

[ornate aspen]

and Zbrush

[dull flint]

Oh maya I think is definitely rdna3

[burnt spear]

7800xt would be a better idea then

[dull flint]

Lemme double check

[burnt spear]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JTM6DZ

[ornate aspen]

Substance painter

[burnt spear]

Also, you could drop cpu to 13600k and go for a $35 air cooler if you would prefer that

But it would get pretty toasty under multi core loads

That would look like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBq7RK

[ornate aspen]

aye... ironically that was the original ram I ordered, but they sent me the wrong order. so I just got what I could

[burnt spear]

Ahh rip

[dull flint]

Is substance painter something else or is it just Zbrush

It's looking like an intel, rdna3/nvidia build

[burnt spear]

Oh wait did you already get that headset btw?

[dull flint]

Either or

[ornate aspen]

Yeah..

everything already arrived

but I haven't opened up the headset box

everything is assembled... just the issue with the CPU overheating got me

[burnt spear]

Mobo options if you end up switching that too, but again the one in there is fine just expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xpnypg/asus-tuf-gaming-z690-plus-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-tuf-gaming-z690-plus-wifi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pTbTwP/asrock-b760m-pro-rs-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pro-rs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxcgXL/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-gaming-plus-wifi

[burnt spear]

It's alright just razer headsets tend not to be the best for their prices

So again, it's up to you if you want to keep it or not, as with pretty much everything else in the list

Theyre good products, just not the best price/perf for the most part

[ornate aspen]

aye, yeah... all I had to go on for a lot was reading comparative reviews.

[burnt spear]

Yeah unfortunately those tend to be very brand based and not performance based

Like Samsung ssds, the 990 pro is good but 99% of people won't see a difference between it and a $90 s70 blade

[ornate aspen]

aye

[burnt spear]

4000d airflow is a decent case, but there's other very nice options around the price

Like g360a, literally any fractal design case with a mesh front, etc

Evga makes some good psus, GT is decent but you can get a better quality psu for $100, or same quality psu for $80

You get the point

[ornate aspen]

yeah

[burnt spear]

I actually have a GT in my build

850 though not 750

[ornate aspen]

wish I had thought of looking up this Discord before

[burnt spear]

Yeah, couldn't do worse than the pre built I bought before coming here lol

I knew absolutely f all about pcs when I bought it Dec 2020

[ornate aspen]

all my PC"s have been payment for work

and the last one is almost 10 years old

Still works, but well, it's starting to show its age

and of course the fan going out on it sounds like a weed whacker

[burnt spear]

Yeah understandably

My first pc before that pre built was a gt 1030 and 3rd gen i5

Went from that to a 3600 and 3060 ti

Was like night and day, as I'm sure this upgrade will be for you lol

[ornate aspen]

i'm still rocking a gtx 960

[burnt spear]

960 decimates a 1030 though lol

What cpu do you have?

[ornate aspen]

i7 3500

is 3930k

64g ddr2 ram

[burnt spear]

So for gpu, you're looking at a 400% increase or so

[ornate aspen]

yeah

heh

makes me giddy

hence the dissapointment when things weren't working

[burnt spear]

Cpu is about a 650% increase

[burnt spear]

Could you send a picture of the aio mounted on the cpu, if it's still on?

One from face on one from the sideish?

[ornate aspen]

already removed

[burnt spear]

Ah alr

Also if you go for a 360mm aio, there's either the black one in the list I sent or you can go for rgb, with the frozen notte

It's like $6 more

[ornate aspen]

not sure if it will fit in the case.

found a picture.... loading

[burnt spear]

4000d airflow fits up to 360mm

It either fits 280mm front and 360 top, or vice versa

I forget

[ornate aspen]

@burnt spear

[burnt spear]

@dull flint does this look right?

[ornate aspen]

after that picture I had to remove the radiator to plug it into the aio header...

so this was early on

[burnt spear]

Ah

[ornate aspen]

thinking it might fit the freeze II 280

two fans but slightly larger

I'd have to fit the 360 radiator down the front of the case if it would fit

[burnt spear]

Yeah front mount is fine

Pcpartpicker checks for compatibility

It wouldn't let a 360mm be added if the 4000d airflow doesn't fit it

If you do go for 280 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ttt9TW/ek-aio-280-d-rgb-116-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-280-d-rgb

Very nice aio

Thermalright also has a good 280mm aio but it's white

It also has an lcd display over the cpu, if you care for that

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Frozen-Magic-280-Specification/dp/B0BDK43K7V/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1TAKUC9G1AWT3&keywords=thermalright+280mm+aio&qid=1697300712&sprefix=thermalright+280mm+aio%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc

[ornate aspen]

hmm

[burnt spear]

Ek makes some of the best aios out there

Theyre up there with arctic

Thermalright aios aren't quite as good, but they're good quality and perform within a few degrees of top end aios that normally cost twice as much

Notte 360 I believe beats arctic 280

[ornate aspen]

So... current plan of action... try the i5-13600K, return the arctic freeze II 240, and get a bigger AIO?

[dull flint]

It fits up top but I believe not with ram

Sorry guys I'm also working on my own pc rn 💀

I'll be in and out of chat

[ornate aspen]

no worries. appreciate the input

[burnt spear]

It's def not the size of the aio that's the issue, that specific one might just be faulty

Though a 240mm lf2 is silly, since you can get 240mm aio perf from a $35 air cooler

And there's much cheaper decent 240mm aios as low as $47

Frozen prism and frozen notte

[ornate aspen]

👍

[burnt spear]

Factorio comparison lol

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah that seems about right

It's a lot more cache heavy and the cache hasn't changed

[stark violet]

apparently the metric for factorio is supposed to be updates per second

[dull flint]

Well that's interesting, my 5900X has degraded just from PBO

TSMC 7nm can't handle 80W gaming?

Might be time to sell it

[cyan raft]

Mine also degraded from it

Can’t run stock anymore

[dull flint]

Wtf

Real??

My soc appears to no longer like 1.15v

[burnt spear]

Wtf is happening

Is amd having a widespread issue with failure right now or has it been going on? This seems like a major issue to not have been talked about more

[cyan raft]

I had to drop my boost clock to 4.3GHz to be stable at stock voltages

[dull flint]

13th gen dies from enough prime95 runs

Welcome to the current gen ig

[cyan raft]

At stock? Never seen that before

[dull flint]

According to a source yelling at another source while I ate the proverbial popcorn, yes it's true

[long geyser]

CPU peeps trying to pull GPU strat, pushing component to its limits, but worse and more dangerously

[hollow thorn]

Time to test myself

[grizzled bloom]

Which means Intel 14th gen will be even worse with the 6GHz stock freq

[novel trout]

I have a msi mpg b550 gaming plus and ryzen 9 cpu, but i try to boot and it just shows a solid white light next to cpu, no pins are bent on the cpu so idk the problem

[grizzled bloom]

Updated bios? You can use the flash button so you don't even need it to boot

[fast moth]

My motherboard has flash button, how do I use it

[grizzled bloom]

What model

Generally the steps are:
Download and extract bios
Copy bios to FAT32 USB drive
Rename bios file
Plug drive into designated flash port
Press and hold flash button until the light starts flashing, then wait about 5 minutes for it to stop

Specific steps will vary by brand, and sometimes by model

[fast moth]

B550m aorus elite

[grizzled bloom]

wifi or no

[fast moth]

No

[grizzled bloom]

rev 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3

[fast moth]

Idk 💀

[grizzled bloom]

It says on the bottom left of the board

Up against the back of the case

[fast moth]

I’ll check when I go home

[grizzled bloom]

It's small

[fast moth]

Ok

What do I need to flash?

Do I only need psu and mobo?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes, and a flash drive formatted as FAT32

[fast moth]

What that

I have a pen drive

[grizzled bloom]

If it's a USB storage drive then it should work

You can tell the format by plugging it in to a PC and right clicking the drive, and hitting properties

[fast moth]

Ok I’ll check

[fast moth]

Is it worth flashing? Before building?

[grizzled bloom]

I'd say yes

Especially if you are using a newer CPU like a 5600 or 5800X3D

[fast moth]

I have windows and bios update downloaded onto the same drive

[grizzled bloom]

That's fine

[fast moth]

Will that effect anything

[grizzled bloom]

It looks for the exact file name GIGABYTE.bin

As long as it's FAT32 it'll work

[fast moth]

I have it plugged in

[fast moth]

I’m in properties

It’s FAT32

[grizzled bloom]

Perfect

[fast moth]

I have all these files in here

[grizzled bloom]

Keep the GIGABYTE.bin file on the root of the drive, not inside any folders

[fast moth]

I don’t see any rev versions on my mobo

[grizzled bloom]

Nothing on the bottom left? Probably v1 then

[fast moth]

Bro there’s pins missing

Is it fine or am I tripping

[grizzled bloom]

Missing from where

[fast moth]

Look at the f audio

And the led ones

F usb

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah it's supposed to be like that

[fast moth]

Ok

I got scared

[grizzled bloom]

That way you can't plug it in wrong

You'll use this port for flashing

[fast moth]

Imma build the pc on Tuesday should I start building rn?

[grizzled bloom]

Up to you

It's pretty quick to plug in the 24 pin from the power supply and flash if you want to do that now

[fast moth]

Is it fine if it sits on the desk until Tuesday cuz I cannot wait lol

[fast moth]

Yeah I’ll do that rn

[grizzled bloom]

Yes it'll be fine

[fast moth]

I don’t have like a dedicated thing to put it on

How do I put it

I’ll build rn

[grizzled bloom]

The cardboard box it came in is fine to set it on temporarily

[fast moth]

Also dumb question how do I remove the file from the folder

[fast moth]

Until Tuesday or Wednesday

Depends on when my case shows up

[grizzled bloom]

Right click
Copy paste

[fast moth]

Ok what do I rename it as

[grizzled bloom]

Don't set it on the anti static bag, just on the bare cardboard btw

[fast moth]

It’s a F18C file

[fast moth]

Yeah I put it on there

[grizzled bloom]

GIGABYTE.bin

[fast moth]

Remove the file extension and rename it to bin?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

[fast moth]

It has

It’s there by itself with windows there

[grizzled bloom]

You'll need the 24 pin and the 8 pin EPS power plugged in for your board it looks like, in order to flash

[fast moth]

Lemme show you

[grizzled bloom]

Looks right

[fast moth]

There’s so many cables

What else

[grizzled bloom]

That's why modular is so nice

[grizzled bloom]

The 4+4 CPU power cable

AKA 8 pin EPS

[fast moth]

How does it look like

I found pcie

[fast moth]

This one?

There’s 2 of them

[grizzled bloom]

That looks like the 6+2

[fast moth]

There’s all 6

[grizzled bloom]

The CPU one won't have a daisy chain connector

[fast moth]

All of them have other cable attached to it 😭😭

I have apevia prestige

[grizzled bloom]

Is that the semi modular one

[fast moth]

Non modular 600w

[fast moth]

It’s this one no?

It has no pcie written on it

[grizzled bloom]

That looks right

[fast moth]

But it has 2 ?

What do I do

[grizzled bloom]

Does it split in half to make a 4+4 cable

[grizzled bloom]

Pick an end

[fast moth]

Is it fine?

[grizzled bloom]

Technically the one closer to the power supply is preferred but it shouldn't matter for this

It seems like the right one to me, they just ignored best practice and put 2 connectors

[fast moth]

Ok

I plugged in both of them

[grizzled bloom]

The 8 pin can carry up to about 350W so having both plugged in would mean a max of 700W over one cable, which is obviously less than ideal. That's what I mean about best practice if you were wondering.

[fast moth]

Oh ok

So now put in the drive?

[grizzled bloom]

Yep

[fast moth]

Plug into the wall?

How do I know when it’s finished?

[grizzled bloom]

Yep

When you hold the flash button, a light will start flashing

When it stops it's done

[fast moth]

Where is the button?

[grizzled bloom]

By the SATA ports

[fast moth]

That?

[grizzled bloom]

Yep

[fast moth]

Nothings flashing

My psu fan is not turning

[grizzled bloom]

Does the drive have a light

[fast moth]

Not anymore

Did I brick my mobo?

I’m scared

[grizzled bloom]

Light is on, means it's reading

[fast moth]

I turned it off by mistake

[grizzled bloom]

Just flash it again

[fast moth]

I did not touch the button tho

Hold the button?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

[fast moth]

It stopped

Does it take seconds or something?

[grizzled bloom]

It can take a few seconds to start but it should take 1-5 minutes to flash

[fast moth]

The drive stopped flashing

After I held the button

Why is my psu fan not turning?

[grizzled bloom]

It doesn't need to turn on the PSU for this

It runs off the standby power

[fast moth]

Oh ok

[fast moth]

What about this?

Does it mean it started?

[grizzled bloom]

When the light starts flashing it means it's trying to read

[fast moth]

It stopped tho

After I held the button

[grizzled bloom]

How quick

[fast moth]

Instant

Should I turn off and do it again?

[grizzled bloom]

Yeah

It can take a few tries

[fast moth]

Turned the psu off

It’s on the O side

It’s off right?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

[fast moth]

I’m turning it on

The drive is flashing

But I haven’t touched the button

It’s still going on

[grizzled bloom]

Let it go I guess

[fast moth]

Aight

Or should I play it safe and put in all the stuff and flash it then?

I have all the stuff except the case

[grizzled bloom]

It won't make a difference

[fast moth]

Aight I’ll prob wait another 10 more minutes and turn off the psu

The drive is still flashing and I haven’t touched the button

@grizzled bloom

I’ll be turning it off now

Imma build the pc and boot

And after that I’ll update bios in the menu

That fine?

Do I change the name or anything or is it fine if I leave it like that?

[grizzled bloom]

That would be fine. And if that doesn't work:
Switch it off, unplug the drive, switch it on, put the drive back in, and then hit the flash button

It's fine to leave the file as is

[fast moth]

Alright

[grizzled bloom]

You can point the flash menu to a file and it'll check the internal data before flashing

Oh and you probably don't need to bother applying thermal paste for this since you'll be taking the cooler off to install into the case anyway

[fast moth]

Do I remove the sticker for the ssd

[fast moth]

No because I’m using stock cooler

[fast moth]

Why am I taking the cooler off when I’m putting in the case?

@grizzled bloom

[grizzled bloom]

No that's more than a sticker, that's a heat spreader. Metal infused sticker.

[fast moth]

I remove the backplate right?

[grizzled bloom]

Because it'll probably get in the way of other things like the CPU power

[grizzled bloom]

No the stock cooler screws into the stock backplate

[fast moth]

Just remove the screws right?

[grizzled bloom]

Yep

[fast moth]

I don’t have to remove the things then?

[grizzled bloom]

The backplate is glued in place so don't worry about it falling

The black clip attachment points will be removed and you'll screw the cooler in where the screws were before

[fast moth]

Look

[grizzled bloom]

That's correct

The stock cooler screws in to those posts

[fast moth]

Should I remove the screws on the cooler, place the cooler and put the screws back on?

[grizzled bloom]

They don't come off

Not without fully disassembling the cooler at least

[fast moth]

Ok

How do I screw them in

[grizzled bloom]

It's spring tension, press hard and turn

[cursive epoch]

little by little in a cross pattern

it looks like spring tension

cuz Intel stock cooler

wait it's amd

[grizzled bloom]

Same concept as GPU coolers use, makes it more evenly apply pressure

Yep wraith cooler

[cursive epoch]

i was a bit blind

[fast moth]

Are they in?

Put in the gpu now?

I got the ram, ssd, cooler and cpu in

How do I put the gpu in

Which whole

[cursive epoch]

first slot

the one with metal shielding

[fast moth]

Ok

Should I remove this silver thing?

It’s getting in the way

I can prob put it back on when I get the case

[cursive epoch]

No

That's the gpu bracket

[fast moth]

Dude it feel on the ground

[fast moth]

It’s not fitting on the box

[cursive epoch]

It mounts onto the case, which you will need to remove the pcie bracket covers to the amount of slots it takes

[fast moth]

But it’s not fitting on the box

[cursive epoch]

without it you can't mount the gpu lol

[fast moth]

How do I remove the gpu it’s stuck

[grizzled bloom]

Plastic clip on the PCIe slot

[fast moth]

I got it

Plugging in the cables now

I have question

Should I plug both of them in

Or just one cable both ends?

@grizzled bloom @cursive epoch

[burnt spear]

Use two separate cables

[fast moth]

Ok

[burnt spear]

Not two ends of the same one

If its 3 pin two would be fine, but no reason not to do two if you have them

[fast moth]

Ok

How do I turn on the mobo

I don’t have switch

[burnt spear]

Wdym turn on the mobo?

[fast moth]

I don’t have case

[fast moth]

Like boot it up

Turn it on so it posts

[burnt spear]

Just power button, once everything is in and all that

[fast moth]

I don’t have a case

[grizzled bloom]

Take a screwdriver and touch the power button pins

[fast moth]

It don’t work

[burnt spear]

Try two far left?

So God I hate that noise lol

[fast moth]

Doesn’t work

[burnt spear]

Psu power button on, ram all the way in, double checked connections?

[fast moth]

I think so

[burnt spear]

Oh does this vary per board?

Could've sworn mine was far left but I could be wrong

[fast moth]

Power supply is on the line

Like when I switch on

[burnt spear]

Try the highlighted two, if you didn't already

[fast moth]

IT OWKRS

IT WORKS

[grizzled bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/its-working-anakin-skywalker-starwars-gif-4777331

[dull flint]

IT'S LAIVE

[burnt spear]

W fal

[fast moth]

IT TURND ON

OMG

[dull flint]

IT'S ALIVE

[fast moth]

BUT IT DOESNT POST

[burnt spear]

Ah

[grizzled bloom]

Give it a few minutes

First post is the longest

[burnt spear]

^

[fast moth]

My heart is racing

I’m about to die

[burnt spear]

Do you mean like turned off?

Or is just sitting with monitor on but nothing displaying

[fast moth]

Do I turn the monitor on?

It’s a old ass monitor

[grizzled bloom]

Yes monitor on

Some boards won't post without monitor on

[fast moth]

I’m scared guys

It’s not showing anything

[grizzled bloom]

Make sure it's on the right input

[fast moth]

Video right?

What input is it supposed to be in

[grizzled bloom]

That typically refers to the vga port

[olive totem]

nice case

[grizzled bloom]

HDMI is the one you probably want

[fast moth]

IT POSTED

LETS GOOOO

What do I do now

Plug in keyboard and mouse?

[burnt spear]

Should go to bios

[grizzled bloom]

Update bios, install windows

[burnt spear]

^

Might have to set boot priority to the USB with windows

[grizzled bloom]

Once windows is installed go back to bios and enable xmp

[olive totem]

what gpu does he have

[fast moth]

Not working man

It’s not going to bios

I put in the drive

[grizzled bloom]

Press Y

[fast moth]

I’m nervous

I pressed y

Nothing shows up anymore

[grizzled bloom]

It probably started looking for a boot drive

[fast moth]

Aorus logo popped up

IWNCOWS LOADED

BUT NO bios

Is that a bad thing?

Do I continue with windows install?

[grizzled bloom]

Delete when the aorus logo comes up, and it'll go to bios

You can continue to install

[fast moth]

Installing

Ok